Sept. 28/25 - Humanity Facing Extiction Level Event ? w/ Carina Hultqvist

Tonight we talk abductions, remote viewing nad a bunch more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to space Out Radio, that afdounds radio show. We're
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joining us from Sweden. We're gonna be talking about potential
messages that have been received through channeling and other things. Here,
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Once again, we have an experience the remote viewer, amongst
many other things. Karina Hopeless joining us from across the
globe Sweden, and we're we're not gonna waste any time
at all. We're gonna jump right on into the show.

(01:37):
So let's go ahead and get her up on stage here.
And Karina, thanks so much for joining us here.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's just pleasure, definitely. And you're joining us from the
opposite side of the world, which I think is just
also awesome impactful because it shows the conversation that is
being had globally, which is an awesome thing to know.
So definitely, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh yes, thank you. It's four o'clock in the morning
our time.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Wow. Wow, okay, we thank you for getting up right
and early with us.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well I'm an early birds.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Okay, let's get right on into it. You know, we
always start every interview trying to understand what led you
to realizing that the phenomena was a thing. What path
did you take. Was it as a young age or
when did you actually encounter the phenomena.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
The first thing I remember is something that happened to
me when I was six years old, just before I
started going to school. It was my last summer before school,
so I spill the summer at out in the Archipella
though while we had a summerhouse and I sat by

(03:04):
the shore doing absolutely nothing, as children sometimes do. I
was suddenly, quite suddenly moved to a little not an island,
just just as though outside in the sea, somewhere miles away,
I suppose, because I couldn't see anything else but water

(03:26):
around me. And I wasn't afraid. I was just a
bit hm hm, you know what's this? But then I
was asked something. There was someone asking me to go

(03:46):
back up to something up there in the in the sky.
I didn't understand by that what it was, but I said,
now I need to be here. Please put me back
where along right now. And I was transferred back again.
And this must have taken about say and I think

(04:10):
I lost an hour on my time.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I was.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I was a little bit shaken, but I was so young,
and I didn't understand what it was about. Much later
I come to understand that I had the option to
go back from incarnation and into what I was before,
or well in a way anyway. But I had a mission,

(04:42):
and I had a very faint idea about this mission,
and now I know exactly what it was. But by
then I was just a little kid, six years old,
just wondering what has happened to me? What happened to
me and why? So the answers came a lot later.
I got to know who put me there, who brought

(05:02):
me back, and what mission it was I was he
to do. That was the first time I really know
I had some very odd experience. Nothing really an objection,
i'd say, but something happened.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Wow, that's that's awesome sort of abduction experience. By the
age of six, Were you able to articulate that to
your your parents or any anyone else?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
No, no, no, no, no. They didn't believe in such
such things, And I didn't have any you, No, we didn't.
We never talked about my experiences never ever. They weren't
that kind of people.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Wow, So how do you deal with that? How does
what type of it has to take a toll on you?
Growing up with an experience like that, not being able
to let it out. How do you think that affected
you throughout life, you know, leading up to becoming an adult.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, this was just the first or many experiences I
had as a very young being I had the next
experience when I was ten, and then it was just
end on. So I got used to keep it to
myself until I found other people when I was grown up,
people who share my experiences and couldn't understand it. And
I'm believed in it, So.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
If you wouldn't mind share the experience that you had.
At ten years.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Old, I was in Italy, you know, in Europe. My
parents took me there. We were on holiday and we
were visiting a city which is a church built to

(06:50):
the memory of the Saint Saint Francis or a sissy
you might know. And and we were there. There were
lots of peace people, all tourists from all countries, and
my parents joined a group who were French speaking, and
I was ten years old. I didn't speak French, so

(07:11):
I was quite bored. I went around for a lot
for a time in the church, looking at the pictures,
and then I was bored and I folk i'd do
something more interesting, so I went on my on my own,
quite alone, sneaked down to the lowest part of the church,
which was the crypt, and that's where the coffin or

(07:37):
the stone monumental coffin. I think it was of coffin
of Saint Francis was kept, and it's just that it
was a railing in front of which I couldn't come
all the way to it. But I was a few
meters from there, and I stat there and looked at
this coffin and thought, here is here's a spotty And

(08:06):
then I heard a voice saying, follow me. I thought, hey,
what's that? Must be something from the stoff saying I
should get out of the someone else. But then the
voice came again. Then it came from this coffin, and
it said very clearly, follow me. And I realized it

(08:27):
must have been the voice of Saint Francis, wanting me
to follow him in some way, some aspect of his
life somehow. And that quite shake me a lot, because
I knew by ten years being ten years that it
must have meant he wanted me maybe to be a

(08:51):
you know, recluse or the powerless or whatever, because he
had a life of very interesting life, but very all life.
So I was a bit worried about this message. So
when I got home and I studied his life very
meticulous to see if this was something to do, and

(09:14):
I realized, yeah, that's that's he was so charity dedicated,
and that's what made me dedicated to my mission as well.
That's what happened.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
When did you get to a point where you understood
that what was happening wasn't quote unquote normal. When did
you realize that this was definitely something different and and
you know, something that an average person did not go through.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
I think that happened that well in my life already
when I was six, because I knew I was different somehow,
I didn't like to play much with other children there toys.
I was very much alone. And I prefer today that
because I knew I was different and they didn't understand me, okay,

(10:11):
and I was interested in what they did, their place
and so on. So I think I knew it from
the very beginning.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Perhaps I've been very interested. One of my favorite UFO
sightings out there there, as everyone knows, is the Aerial
School sighting, and then also the Westall School siding and
just school sightings in general, because I wonder why extraterrestrials
contact children, and you're trying to understand, you know, the

(10:44):
basis behind that. If you had to guess, what would
what do you think the reason that extraterrestrials reach out
to children. What do you think that's all about.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I think children are a lot more open to these
beings than the adults are. Adult people are very you know,
we learned at school there is no more advanced beings
than us. We learn that well up there in the space,

(11:17):
maybe an angel somewad so whatever, but no aliens. So
I think children are much more inceptive because they are
intuitive and let's see what the matter is, much clearly,
more clearly than adulsto.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
In those the sightings that I mentioned, Aerial School West,
all all the school sightings, there's generally a message that
the extraterrestrials are said to be delivering. I know in
Aerial School they told the kids that technology was bad,
and I have different interpretations on what that might mean.

(11:56):
What sort of message would you say you were doing delivered,
if any.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
I think I have received the same message from all
my encounters, more or less at least, and that message
is you are supposed to go out. We have sent
you into the world because we want you to tell
people the truth, to warn them about their future, and

(12:27):
tell them that everything is going to be all right
in the end. But you have to take measures before that,
and you have to prepare yourself. And I'm supposed to
tell exactly what is going to happen, how to handle it,
how to get through it, and how to have to
keep hope because there is a glorious future, but it

(12:50):
is someody case in the future.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
How long do you think that it took you to
act on that so you get the message that you
are here for a purpose and that you should be
delivering a message. When at what point in your life
do you finally understand that message and then you actually
act on it.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Well, I think it was after I had finished school,
when I was at university about nineteen hundred and sixty six.
I was I was I was lecturing. I was lecturing

(13:36):
about nature, about something I don't remember exactly what it was,
but it was about the changes in nature that had
man had cause I was quite young by then, twenty something,
twenty one, twenty two, so you see, I'm an old woman.

(14:00):
That inspired me to go on with climate change, is
with nature's laws, with cosmic law, and trying to teach
exactly why we have left the nature, why we have

(14:21):
left the laws of nature and started something quite different.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
The laws of the nature. When you say that that
that people here know that I talk about that all
the time. I just feel like, for whatever, and this
goes back to the children's message. I spoke to you
about earlier us with the aerial kids, when they told
them technology was bad. And I have one of my
interpretations of that is is that because technology takes us

(14:50):
so far away from our natural state and who we
are as natural beings, as just animals on this planet. Right. So,
and it kind of sounds like that's what you are
speaking to there. You picked up other or I won't
say picked up you more so, I think probably activated

(15:12):
other senses. And so I know you ended up remote viewing,
becoming a psychic. So when did those things start kicking
in for you? When did you realize that you were
able to unlock these other abilities within yourself?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well, that was in the late sixties and I started
to study at the university. I started to study lots
of things, and after that I had a job, several jobs,
and during all this period I was kind of fill

(15:48):
into situations where I realized I have to go deeper
into this. So I started remote viewing in the late nineties.
That led me into a lot of situations where I
met with a lot of strange things out there.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
So the beans that that that we're talking about, So
starting at six, the abduction experience leading up to becoming
an adult, were these the exact same beings every time
that you were interacting with?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Now? The one I met when I was six is
someone I have met several times after we made friends
and we're or we're kind of we work together. But
I am met a lot of different beings from different
places and different situations or all my life I'm up

(16:49):
to now, And.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
What do you feel? Is it? Is it? This? Is
it a uniform message across all species that you've come
in contact with, or does it appear that each species
may have a separate or different proposal or agenda if
you had to look at.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
It, most species have their own agenda and they are
not always compatible with neither with each other, nor with
what things we here or another are doing. So it's different.
You get different messages. You realize there are different agendas,

(17:31):
and you have to say yes or no to this.
You have to accept or cooperate or you can't say no, please,
this is not what we need on this is not
what I want, so you have to be kind of
selective when you are engaged with these beings.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
See and as a person myself, I've had experiences with
craft and other weird things in the phenomenon, like I feel,
maybe paranormal things that I've experienced, but no experience with
the direct contact with the with a being. I've always wondered,

(18:10):
because I hear different things from different people. Uh, there's
some people that say there are hundreds of beings visiting us,
a different species of beings visiting us currently. Some people
say there's only a few, it's a handful. Out of
the ones that you have come in contact with, what

(18:32):
category do they fall in? Like, I know we have
grays and we have supposedly Nordigs. Which ones did you
come in contact with?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Oh? Well, quite a lot of different grounds. I say,
I have been in contact with a smaller grade because
they are more rollbots or they are not really beings
in the sense we mean it. But they have been
they haven't been rude to me. They are just done

(19:04):
what they're supposed to do and what they are ordered
to do by some other entity. I've come upon the tall,
white ones, the gray ones. I've come upon those whom
we call lizard like ones, and also things that look
like very mind is and you know a lot of

(19:25):
different beings from all over the space to say, so,
I can't really say there's nothing special. Different different beings
contact me for different reasons, but normally the same reason
all the time. When when when you add them together,

(19:47):
you see they really want me to cooperate, and I
want I want to do that. So I have been
connected to certain not all races, but certainly in the
radios from different phrases, so that we may connect to
that may who operate both now and in the future.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
With the Because the beings that you named are essentially
the ones that I know of as well, like the
Nord East Palladians, reptilians, mantids, grads. These are the common cluster.
So out of those beings we talked about them having
different agendas. So if you were able to list those

(20:30):
five different species, which one has which agenda?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Could start with the lizards. There are two kinds. The
nice one nice guys, and they're not so very nice guys.
I happen to be friends well a of the nice guys,
and their agenda is to somehow see to it that
the mh the new babies who come to Earth are

(21:04):
equipped will much greater understanding of what needs to be done.
So they seem to want to.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Kind of assist in getting rid of us the oldest,
because we have destroyed so much we are we are
now we should either be sent to other planets or
we will we will simply die.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
In cathaestroosphes of different kinds in this climate change. Uh So, well,
the Earth is more or less be rid of us
our generation. The new ones will take over, and they
well know what to do, and they will will start

(21:55):
on what which it's generally called the New Earth, but
that is a few decades in the future, but it's
is coming. So they are now being born, the new Ones.
And that's what these lizards help to do. Other beings
have other agendas. Those who look at very much like us,

(22:19):
I suppose you could call them the Nordic race. Their
agenda is very much to give us messages through crops,
circles and other things on Earth. Then we have the tall,
wide ones, who are really very very very advanced beings.

(22:43):
They are our guides or helpers. We sometimes refer to
them nice angels or more advanced beings. Well, let's let's
keep it that best. So far, that's three races that
I'm sure for their womans at least.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Okay, So, and then we'll kind of stop right there
because we're actually about to go into our first break
of the night here and very interesting so and I
definitely wanted to dive into the different species. Haven't had
a chance to do that on recent shows. So reptilians

(23:23):
they I've heard that they have assimilated with us, and
some people say they're in positions of power and they
are able to shape shift and show themselves as regular
human beings. So I don't know how far that goes.
I don't know what your thoughts on that, but we'll
check on that right after this break. For everyone else,

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me see here, and like I said before, I do
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we get back into the conversation. So as we were
going to break Karina, I was just talking about, you know,
the reptilians just from what I've heard of them, I
can only so what I do. Obviously, I'm interviewing a

(30:49):
lot of people, and different people have different perspectives of
these species, and so I try to formulate, you know,
based on descriptions that I get, and from what I've heard,
Reptilians supposedly are able to shape shift and kind of
blend in with humanity. Some people believe they're in these

(31:10):
power positions and pull screens in our current society and
kind of will control where we go in how disclosure goes.
Do you agree with that? And kind of I know
you kind of gave their agenda, but what is do
you agree with that statement?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I have only met one of them that we have
met that several times, so I can't talk for them
in general. I don't know really, but the one I'm
at has a very definite agenda, as I told you before,
and I also know they are very most agents are

(31:56):
or non human beings are shape shifts and have a
lot of other villages to walk into our dimension and
out of it. Instantly, as we have seen on many
many videos from people who have experienced us. So they

(32:18):
have a lot of more advanced abilities than we have,
and they also have some genders sometimes that we are
not quite aware of it, but we just it's just
guess work from outside.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
We have no really on this list based off of
your experience with these species. If you had to pick
one species that you would say was here for the
benefit of humanity, and then you had to pick one
that really didn't have humanity and its best interest, and

(32:57):
I guess that'd be pretty easy for you know, someone
coming in to kind of understand without needing to know
all of the extra which species based on your dealings
would you say, they're definitely here to help, they want
the best for us, and then the species that, hey,
maybe we should stay away and we probably don't want

(33:17):
to intermingle with that species.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I want to say that be aware about being from
Orion because they can be quite nasty beings. And also
look out for these scaly ones who are either lizards
or look a bit more sinis. They're also those who

(33:42):
look like ants can be negative beings. I don't know
quite well, and I'm not perfectly sure about where they
do come from, but normally those from nearby star systems,
from let's say from Andro that from Serious, from the

(34:09):
Plates and so on. Our benevolent ones. Also if they
are different races, they look very different, but they most
of them are very nine. But I say look out,
look twice before you make friends with beings from from
the row writing system, because they are both good and

(34:31):
bad guys over there.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Do you think there's an element? And I bring this
up as well because I always shout out re Summers
for this, because this is the conversation that we had
where we were essentially talking about messages that some individuals
get from a particular extraterrestrial species, and the question was

(34:58):
is there the possibility that that there is a level
of deception there, like the extraterrestrials are feeding this individual
disinformation essentially in order to spread that into the public,
so saying hey, we're here for peace, this is what
you should do. So those beings may be delivering the

(35:21):
wrong message or an untrue message in order to get
that human being to spread that message out to humanity.
Do you think that there's a level of that going on?
And should should With that being said, should we be
more cautious in the messages that we do receive from

(35:41):
these extraterrestrials.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
The short answer is yes, we should be very careful
about it, and we should always ask ourselves is this
really the best thing for humanity? Is it the best
thing for planet? Or is it something that has been
introduced into our brains by some in ways that we

(36:08):
don't really understand we are we are normally too, so
we say we're lots suspicious enough. We should we should
look very closely and very carefully at what they ask
us to do or what their intentions are, and always

(36:28):
ask is this is this in line well with the
lords of nature with lows of cosmic higher law? Is
this in line with our belief systems? And if so,
we may check it out at least and see if
we could co operate with these means or not. We

(36:52):
should be very careful because there are as on Earth.
There are lots of different ideas out there, a lot
of different kind of agendas.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, I mean, and we experienced manipulation here on Earth
all the time. So it's like, okay, you have an
advanced species and it's Here's the thing that people will
always say they'll say, oh, these beans are so far advanced,
so more far advanced than we are, that they should
They've gone there. They're in a place now where you

(37:24):
know they are essentially just pure beings and just delivering
the best intentions. And I just I just as I say, Okay,
I don't see a I don't see a universe where
that that is true. Right, So what do you what
do you say?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I'd say that this situation we have on our planet
mirrors the situation of there in space in Cosmos, So
we are just a smaller version of what happens out there,
that be wars in Hurven. There have been conflicts that
are always need these good guys, bad guys, and they

(38:03):
have different agendas. It's been the same since at least
it's our wealth was created, it came to be. And
it would be very naive to think that only because
someone is very advanced technology, for instance, so that they

(38:27):
may visit the wealth or go around somewhere in Costmos,
doesn't need that they have. So we say that they
are manually. They may be technology, they may be in
a technological way advanced, but they can have they can
be around bad people in themselves. We don't know. We

(38:52):
have to find out each each specie for itself for
it's a good. And you know, it's the same on Earth.
We have a lot of technology here. Not all of
it is good for us. Some is very good, very
very very healthy, sound good and absolutely usable, and some

(39:19):
is very very doubt Yeah, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
That goes back to the whole manipulation thing, right, because
some people are just too gullible to realize that they're
being manipulated. And so those are the same people saying, well, no,
they told me that they're here for peace, so you know,
that's what they're here for, and that's what they'll stick to.
And I'm like, there just isn't enough out there for

(39:45):
you to lean on to believe that, Like you should
hope for that, hope for the best, and then just
prepare for the for the worst, because you know, as
you said, and as I also believe, is that as
is here on Earth is the same across the universe,
some on some far distant planet. A lot of things

(40:06):
are common, hot, cold, ying, yang, you know, good, bad, good, evil,
Those things exist, I feel like consistently across the universe.
So that's why whenever I hear someone say, Oh no,
they said they're here for positive things and they just
want to help. I'm like, how do you know the

(40:28):
beings well enough to believe that? And you shouldn't believe that,
right because they have every the advantages on their end
to manipulate you in order to lower your defenses, right,
because we are if I was coming into a planet
with barbaric sort of species, you'd want them to kind

(40:48):
of lower their guard down if you were trying to
assimilate or at some other agenda. So I'm just glad
that that's what you said, and that's the perspective that
you have, because I've been saying that for a long time.
When you get into your when you got into remote viewing,
when that kicked in for you, what were some of
the first things that you did with that ability, Like

(41:11):
did you attempt to look out into the cosmos or
what was kind of your first remote view experience.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Well, my first experiences where the remote viewing was. I
was taught to remote viewing by a teacher. I was
in a group, and like everyone else, I did what
I was told to do. We got targets to try,
We had a lot of training targets and on one

(41:42):
of those targets, I came upon, or at least on
several of those targets, I came upon beings from other
parts of the universe, from other star systems.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
So I.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Kind of happened to walk into other words and see
other things by and I felt quite secure because I thought, oh, yeah,
this is just strange targets, nothing that can happen. Things
didn't happen, though quite unexpected things happened. And our teacher,

(42:23):
who was trained from Fort Mead in in the years
why he had been one of the first remove viewing
the experts in the small group from Fort me Uh.
He tried to kind of Google's targets that should be

(42:43):
fairly uh secure.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
That it.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Appeared not to be the case. So I had a
lot of interesting encounters that he didn't intend me to have.
And that was because I very soon found out that
the rest of the students in the group got to

(43:11):
the target place.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
And I did see things that they never communicated with
beings there whereas I was contacted by the beings and
they talked to me, they could see me.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
And you know, the idea about doing remote viewing was
from the very beginning something the military did for spying
on the Russians or the Russian spot on the Americans,
and that was the whole ideal of protest. But now
I realized that when I do remote viewing on targets

(43:50):
on Earth, they don't see me. But if I do
it in other places, I meet who we call extra
non human beings of any kind. They can see me,
they can hear it, they interact with me. And that's
a bit odd, and that wasn't hand to be but

(44:11):
that's the case. So so I can't I can talk
with the others. I can only talk for my own experiences.
So you know, my first remote viewing experiences will were
quite odd in that sense because I was suddenly in
communication well with very very interesting beings from other busses.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
You know, I often wonder and I've never been able
to remote. You may and maybe it's something I need
to try. I haven't able to tried. Is interesting, it's fine, Yeah,
So it tell me if this is close to what
it is, because I feel like if it's an interesting thing.
You said that that it seems like humans for whatever reason,

(44:57):
don't notice your presence or you up when you're reviewing
a location. But the extressors do. And there could be
a explanation for that, maybe the sense that you need
to do that they're completely open to and they have
just they're tuned into that versus a human being who
still hasn't found a way to unlock that yet. But

(45:19):
you know the sense that you get when you're in
a room and you feel a presence that isn't there
when you look around, but you can feel a presence.
I wonder is that the same feeling that someone being
remote viewed. Is that the feeling they get when they're
being remote viewed is like there's a presence but they

(45:41):
can't really put their finger on what it is.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yes, when you're remote few, for instance, you go to
some other pace and try to be unseen unnoticed. They
sometimes note there is something in the air that would
be some kind of shift in the air temperature or
pressure or something like that. So this can sense there

(46:07):
is something there, but they can't see that. That's normal
case and that's also when when we don't remove you,
you can we very often I'm sure you you will
have noticed yourself. We often sense a presence because there

(46:29):
is the area is suddenly get cold or warmer, or
there is a pressure and a difference and just an
idea of him. There's something around. Very often when we
walk out into the woods, for instance, we feel the
presence there is someone. When we look around, we don't
see anyone, but maybe there's some animals staring at you,

(46:50):
or that is something else. So we have that sense
that some people have it more evolved than others and
some don't sense everything that's normal for people.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
And when and when you and when we talk about that,
so that being confirmed, it usually what will happen in
most conversations is a person will put that in a
paranormal bucket and say, oh, I maybe felt the presence
of a spirit or a ghost, when essentially it could

(47:24):
it could just essentially be remote viewing. And another connection
maybe is uh. And I'll ask you this. When you're
remote viewing, do you feel like do you think that
your mind is just remotely viewing this location or do

(47:44):
you think your consciousness or your presence is going to
these locations and viewing them in real time?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Well, the whole idea about promote viewing is like in
astral travel or whatever you do and what technique you use,
you leave your physical body behind and go there with
the rest of you, which would include your astral body,
your mental body, your spiritual body, your emotional body, but

(48:21):
you leave the physical body behind. So that is why
humans don't see you, because they only see the physical body.
And that is also, I think why other beings can
see you, because they have the ability to see much

(48:41):
more than physical matter, because some of them aren't even physical,
never incarnate or whatever. So I think that's perfectly normal.
That what is odd is there some beams or not
only see me but also being seen. Now that's quite

(49:03):
that's quite rare actually, so to to to to be
seen and to be uh kind of to connect to
these people and discuss with them, talk with them, be
with them, and they apparently see you as as you are,
but without the physical you kind of car you. That's

(49:29):
that's very interesting and should be it should be be
looked at more.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
And when you that presence, So when so when you're
being seen in those moments like by the extraterrestrial species
when you remote view them. The thought that has always
gone through my head is maybe and you brought up
aftro travel because and that's key because I feel like
it's the same sort of experience with it. I've never

(49:56):
experienced it, but I feel like, you know, that manifestation
or the physical presence that these extraterrestrials notice may come
through like in a shadow person form because and the
reason why I say that is is because I think,
you know, when we talk about shadow people, we talk

(50:18):
about paranormal, we talk about spirits, ghosts and things we
can't see but we can feel we have designated them
to certain categories. When it could when we really don't
know it, potentially could all be remote viewing. It could
be a mix with astral traveling, and we could be
experiencing people viewing us, or you know, a living, live

(50:42):
person somewhere in the world that might be viewing in
on us. And I don't know, how do you feel
about that?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I think it's very rare that you are the object
of a remote viewing people because remote viewers normally focus
on either extraters or on more famous people they want
to look at, not at any normal being or just anyone.

(51:14):
So the idea of being remote remote viewed, I would say,
it's really far fetched. Is more probable by someone from
from outside, someone from out from anywhere else that that
looks at you and wants to communicate with you.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Can you tell me about one of the most shocking
remote views that you've done something that really changed your
perspective or you know, maybe added something to your your
thought process through through a remote view experience.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Wow, many of such cases. Okay, I'll select one of
them for you. Hmmm, yeah, this one will do. This
was also during a training target without teacher and the
group of thirty of us learning remo viewing, and we

(52:14):
did a kind of extended remote viewing training, which means
you don't have to sit with paper and pen at
and disk, but you can just lay down and close
your eyes and do the remote viewing that way. And
so we've tried, all of us thirty people. We were

(52:38):
remote viewing for almost an hour, and then we were
called back to physical normal awareness and a teacher asked
us to write down or make sketches or whatever we
wanted about our experiences. It appeared that of the thirty people,

(53:05):
twenty eight had the same experience. One fell asleep and
didn't experience anything, and I was the old one who
experienced something quite different. All the other twenty eight beams
had each in its own his of her own whale course,
but still had some similar experiences. Well, little white, these

(53:29):
small beings going in rows too and two, and they
could not contact them, and they seemed to be robots.
There seemed to be something, you know, like the small grays,
but these were more grayish, whitish, grase things.

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(01:00:22):
Getting back into the conversation, you were talking about remote
view experience where you had a group of thirty people
roughly and roughly everyone had the same experience. If you
wouldn't mind continuing that story.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Okay, Yes, when I got to the target and we
got to the same target, it was a black, shiny
small planet in the outskirts of our solar system. I
haven't heard of it before. I didn't know anything about it.

(01:00:59):
But I wasn't there, and I was suddenly inside of
this small planet. I was in a room facing what
looked like a giant man's sized mirror in front of me.
It wasn't a mirror, because it looks like it looked
like a mirror. And what I saw was, of course,

(01:01:20):
I saw myself, but behind me was a giant being
approximately I don't know how much that would be in feet,
but say eight nine feet. Well, he was a lot
taller than me anyway, I mean, we have the metric system.
I'm not just to hide seen feet but a lot taller.

(01:01:44):
And he looked like something which was a mixture of
a man or a lizard. So I was a bit,
you know, I wasn't really skied air, but I was
very you know, concerned, what what the heck was this? So,

(01:02:06):
very very casually carefully turned around and said, which was
of course extremely silly. Sorry excuse me, but I turned
around and said hello, which was, of course, as I said, silly,
because I didn't know if this being understood English or

(01:02:29):
had the intention to greet me or to eat me.
I didn't know. He might have killed me on the spot.
But I turned around and watched this pain, and he smiled,
and then we got on speaking terms. Somehow we communicated
telepathically and we had I had very nice stay with

(01:02:51):
him when he explained a lot of things about his life,
what he did and what he did not and how
he allowed. And I was curiously I asked him, how
do you eat? How do you breathe? What the caserve
to eat?

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
There's nothing seen?

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
And who are you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Or what's your intentions? What's your agenda?

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
And so on and so on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
And I have met this being on several occasions after
so I'm quite convinced I know what he's up to
right now. That well, after this remote viewing session, we
were asked to write down everything and to make sketches sense.
So we did, and all the others, the twenty eight

(01:03:35):
beings who had had seen the same things, explain the
same experience more or less accurately. Some of them were
not very accurate, but some were very definitely right on
the spot. And then I said, I'm sorry, I must
have been on the wrong place because my experience was

(01:03:58):
very different. So well, I, uh, this is what happened
to me, And I showed the sketch, and I showed
what I told what I'd seen, and then the teacher
I went on into another room and fetched the paper
and showed it was it was exactly the same being,

(01:04:23):
but it had been seen by another student in another
country year before, and it was an almost exact copy
of what I had seen. So he verified that what
I had seen was indeed existing and true and had
been seen by the others as well, though I was

(01:04:44):
the only one who had seen that part of this
special planet. So that was my first experience of something
that was very very odd. But then I had to
trust my own, my own sense of truth, because I

(01:05:07):
knew this was it was true, and it showed too.
He showed me the papers and I realized, yeah, yeah,
that was confirmation enough. A very nice and a little
bit shattering, but nice experience.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
What would be the dangers do you think of having
this ability to remote view? Do you think it can
be used for the various purposes or it can you
can go too far when remote mewing. Do you think
there's a possibility of that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I think one should be very selective when you choose
your targets because you can't you can't be sure that
you are unseen and unheard when you go there. You
don't know. As he said before, there are some beings
out there who are very competent, very much evolved, and

(01:06:05):
may see and hear you and may do something to
you that you don't like or even I don't know what.
But you should be very selective, very careful when you
get out there. Most of the bees I have seen
relately after that experience have not been in a remote vieing,

(01:06:26):
but they come to me either when I sleep or
when I'm awake, and I can I can interact with
them after well met ones. So it's much easier for
me now than it was in the beginning. So so,
but this has happened over a period of a little
more than forty years, so it's different now from from

(01:06:48):
this very first experience.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Wow, and I know that you also have been able
to tap into what we call a psychic ability, whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
That may be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Do you feel that it's similar to the ability to
remote view. Did you get these senses around the same time.
Do they go hand in hand or how would you
explain that from your point of view.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
I've had a lot of parts I kick or what
do you call them, experiences, and they are quite different
from remote viewing. When your remote view you are not
in your body. These paranormal experiences has happened when you
are in your normal life, so it's quite different. But
I mean, some of the remote viewing experiences are also

(01:07:41):
felt like very para normal, but you'll get used to them,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
And I wanted to get into that because I've seen
you speak before, you know, doing when when doing research,
and you brought up something that that I ended up
putting on a thumbnail here that I thought was pretty
intriguing and I wanted you to speak to if you could.
I saw you mentioned and I didn't get to see

(01:08:07):
you go into detail about this, but you had brought
up the fact that through some maybe channeling or some way,
you've received a message maybe through the psychic ability that
that put that we potentially there's no real other way
to put this, then, that we may be experiencing at

(01:08:30):
some point a human extinction event, which for some people
is you know, it kind of hits them in a
place where they consider that fear mongering, although I don't
because I think you should be open to everything and
all the possibilities. What did you mean when you said that,
and could you kind of detail that experience.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I'm not sure I ever mentioned the word extinction, but yeah,
you know, all of us know by now we have
climate changes, and these climate changes will affect all society.
It will affect all systems, all institutions, everyone, everything, and

(01:09:16):
it will turn rather serious. It doesn't mean that humanity
goes extinct. It means that a lot of people will
die for natural causes. I mean they will die in
in pandemics, they will die in floods, or there will
be worse conflicts of all kinds, more and more, and

(01:09:40):
there will be shootings. There will be all these things
that we already have, but in the more greater scale
one eventually, beings from other words come to us, and
it is predicted by many, many people that they will

(01:10:03):
come within the next few years. They will take a
lot of people in their spaceships, save them, put them
on other planets, or keep them in space rips for
a considerable time until Earth is safe again to live on.

(01:10:25):
So in the end it will mean that approximately I'm
not quite sure, but approximately maybe there will still be
three billion people left on Earth when or towards the
end of this century. So it will not happen at once,

(01:10:49):
it will not happen to everyone. It will not be
an extinction, but it will be a reduction of of
humanity because we are much too many here and that
has caused the whole problem. So what we'll be seeing
here is we are we are trying to manage to

(01:11:14):
held the situation which we have created ourselves. And then
they come, some of them come to save some of us,
some must die, some must survive, and the young ones
who are small now or you know, their earliest teens,
will take over. But that is fifty years into the future.

(01:11:39):
So for the moment, nothing special happens. It's just getting
worse day by day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
I can't agree with that, And I think that goes
along the lines of what people call the reset, the
great reset. And we you know, we obviously have evidence
of resets happening over history, civilizations that just seem to
fall and disappear. That I would consider those moments reductions,
you know, in population has to because they just disappear,

(01:12:12):
you know, and obviously on the track that we're currently on,
if this were to get ten times worse, which it
likely is heading that way, then I can understand that
now would there be in the taking people off planet
thing is obviously something we're even trying to do ourselves

(01:12:32):
to obviously prepare for some sort of event that we
could consider exactly what you're talking about. So what you're
saying makes total sense. With the extraterrestrials taking us off planet,
that's a different spin on it. But do you think
it could have anything to do with maybe like some
future asteroid impact or you know, something that really warrants

(01:12:57):
us to have to leave the planet for one or another.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Well, there is always the risk of an asteroid impact.
It has been before, and it has happened before as
we know. The last one we remember was sixty six
million years ago when the dinosaurs were wiped out, and
it can happen again. It may it will happen again,
but we don't know if that is what we'll cause

(01:13:25):
what some people call the Great Wave or whatever they
call it. It could be for some other reason as well,
but it is possible yes, and there's nothing we can
do about it. We just accept that there have been

(01:13:46):
what we call mass extinctions on Earth at least four
or five times before us, before we live, and this
is well the coming one, but it is not a
total extinction.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
It never was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
There was always some species, some humans lately also, but
also I mean, if the other extinctions have been before,
there were humans on Earth, but they were never complete,
there were always some who survived, so life will always

(01:14:27):
be there on Earth also after us.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Yeah, I've been feeling that and not really knowing what
the catastrophic thing could be, the incoming thing could be.
The main thing that's always on the horizon is World
War three and some sort of nuclear winter fall. That's
the main thing in our way right now. And it
just feels like, you know, when you're moving so fast

(01:14:54):
towards something like that, that the only thing to do
is to hit a reset button. And there has to
be some sort of natural reset process for Earth and
human beings. So with that and being known and having
evidence of events like that happened in the past, it
just makes everything that we're talking about right now realistic

(01:15:16):
and you know, something to consider or think about, you know,
and it's you know, it's a would be a tough
period for humanity, but there are things that we'll have
to go through. That's why I'm a proponent for catastrophic disclosure,
kind of just putting it out there that these things
are here, so maybe we could kind of avoid that

(01:15:38):
some way. Maybe we could kind of shift our path
and avoid this catastrophic event potentially that that would be
in our future, so we don't have to do a reset.
We can figure out a different way. You know, do
you see a have you thought about that? Have you
had any messages or contact that says that an event

(01:15:59):
like this could be avoided if we were to change
our path.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
When we talk about climate changes, it has gone too far.
We can't stop it. But what we can do is
to try and remove the worst of the consequences, to
try and do our best to reset what we have done.
We can't go all the way. It's still happening, and

(01:16:29):
it will happen, and you know, the consequences will be
right day. But we can do our best to kind
of help the world as much as we can and
help ourselves as well. But it can't be avoided. It

(01:16:50):
has gone too far. Already, and the see levels will
rise because and it will do for the next two
hundred years, and we can't do anything about that. Also
if that won't be I mean, we can change the
snows or the ice is to melt, because it's it's

(01:17:10):
an ongoing process that has started and will go on
whatever we do about it. We can change the weather systems.
They are what they are now. But we can do
a lot to help people understand what has gone wrong
and how we can make amends. How we can change

(01:17:31):
our behavior, not only to stop using coal, oil and gas,
but also to do a lot of other things. Clean
the oceans, stop cutting down forests, and so on and
so on. We can do a lot to avoid the
worst of it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Yeah, you know, and when I when I sit and
I think about a situation like that, it's just, you know,
I would hope that there is a way that we
could avoid this. That's why I push for disclosure.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Let me ask you, as we have about five minutes
before we go to break here, going back to some
of these species, is there has there been any sort
of intervention maybe or any sort of them stepping in

(01:18:25):
at any point during you know, to help us avoid
some of these scenarios, because you'll have people that say
that they're here to do that. There's people that believe
they're just here to watch because they've watched other things
historically happen here on Earth. Do you feel that they're
here in numbers for this particular event or show or

(01:18:47):
whatever they may consider this that could be coming in
our future. Do you think they're here to observe this
or do you think they're here maybe to, like, I
don't know, help or not help or what would be
your perspective on that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Well, there have always during all the time of humanity's
existence on Earth being, they have beings here who have
tried to help. They have sent masters, highly evolved beings
to us to try and teach us and help us.

(01:19:24):
And they are still doing that. But and there are
a lot of them living amongst us, looking like humans,
and we don't even know they are from other places,
but they are. They are so called aliens among us,
and they try to help. They try to kind of
educate us or help us. There is a lot of

(01:19:46):
them out there just observing, as you mentioned, but they
will sooner or later come to help and come to
save what can be saved and to instruct us what
to do for the future. Right now, most of them
are just observing, but they are prepared to to come down.

(01:20:14):
There's one thing they don't want us to do, and
that is nuclear war. So if we tried atom bombs
or nuclear weapons that go outside our atmosphere, they would
stop it immediately because that would destroy many of their

(01:20:35):
dimensions as well as ours. But mostly they will just
stay observed and see what happens so far.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
When you bring up the nukes and space situation, that's
I've always felt that way too, that that you know,
instead of them just being here to watch or maybe
even help, they might be here to make sure that
we stay here on this planet and that we don't
take this madness out there into the cosmo. It's always
been something I thought about. But before we go to

(01:21:09):
break going back to these species, this is one thing
I always wanted to ask. And you're Swede over in
Sweden right now. Uh, Nordics, right, So there's when we
say Nordic in the human sense in the English, I
guess in our language, Uh, it's it's a particular geographic

(01:21:29):
area and we're talking about Finland, Norway, Sweden, is there
because we call these things Nordics, they're locally in Sweden,
is there any sort of you know, what is the
outlook on what Nordics are? Is there a sense that
they are directly connected to what we know is Nordic

(01:21:51):
here on Earth or is it just by coincidence, by
appearance or how what would you say.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
To that, Oh, they are back, don't have blue eyes.
That's that's that's that's the same thing as the most
Nordic people living here have nowadays that we have many immigrants,
when the other people who are dark and have the
brown eyes or black eyes or any hair color. But

(01:22:18):
originally the Nordic rays of humans were blonde with blue hair,
the airy on rays or whatever you call it. And
the Nordics do look a little bit like us. So
that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
And I'm just wondering, like, locally, does do do locals
in Sweden like feel that there's a direct connection to
these Nordics or is it? Okay? Okay, no, no, no,
not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Most people in Sweden have no connections at all with
any other non human beings at all. I mean people
have heard about it, people, some have ownencounters, but most
cater like everyone else.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Okay, that's got very ignorant.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Paper that are not People care about their own lives
and nothing else that is normal because that has to
be their first priority.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
And there's definitely something I've always wanted to ask, So
I'm glad, thank you so much for answering that. And uh,
we're gonna go ahead and get ready to jump into
our final break of the night with our guest. Time
has gone so fast, and we have a long list
of questions for you coming up here, So guys, make
sure that you if you have questions, that you put

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(01:24:20):
We're in a five minute break. Everyone can still see
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quick and see here and make sure I didn't miss
any questions. Everyone is definitely oh, Von Patrick, I saw

(01:24:43):
you come in earlier, and I do have your question
to Karina, and I just wanted to shout you out
because you did drop an awesome super Chat saying hello
mister rob g my brother from another mother. Hello, everyone
in the room, Peace, love and understanding to you all.

(01:25:04):
Beautiful message, Von Patrick, and you kind of just dropped
in and it's been a minute, so I'm glad to
see you back here at the show here and joining
us tonight. And then you come in with a beautiful
message like that and in super chat to help support
Space Out Radio, just all around awesome, dude, that Von Patrick,
Thank you sir for that. And let's see, let's see

(01:25:34):
here going back in the chat, making sure we didn't
miss anything. I see we had a troll in the
chat promoting some weird stuff. I can't tell if the
minds got rid of that person or not. Please, if
you wouldn't mind wrenches patrolling that, I call it the patrol. Patrol,

(01:25:57):
Please patrol the troll. Let's see doing great? So right now,
what is it five thirty year time? Karina? Are you
ready to get your coffee? You a coffee drinker.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
I wanted ready to have my coffee ah okay before
the show, to be sure to keep awake, stay awake.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Yes, yeah, I was like, man, it's so tough, but
it's I appreciate, you know, and I know it's hard
just adjusting schedules to do things like this, but I
feel it's so important that, you know, people see that.
It's just not people in the United States talking about
it or just people on this side of the globe,
like hey, people have an these experiences and have viewpoints

(01:26:47):
and perspectives all around the world, so it's awesome that
you step out, uh and do these shows like you're doing.
And a lot of people haven't seen you speak before,
so you know, it's pleasant introduction to them. They're loving
a lot of things you're saying here tonight, and yeah,

(01:27:10):
it's going just like I thought it would, so fantastic.
Off the Grid Homestead let's go Okay, not sure who
that is or I think I know who that is.
Actually I think I do know who that is. Shout
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(01:27:34):
you came in since we since the last break. Thank
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by hobbing it in our time. Because it doesn't cost
you anything. As we go ahead, And I'm just gonna
jump into the first question here because I know we
have a long list from the audience. So first question
that came in was from Candice health Rick, and she's asking,
do you think these experiences happened to some of us

(01:30:55):
super young due to being in our purest innocent stage
of life to open opportunities later in life.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Yes, and no, I think these happen and the young
are approached mostly because of their innocence. They have no
idea about what is going to happen, and that they

(01:31:27):
accept what happens without further ado and not really to
open opportunities later that happens automatically. That their intention is
very much to get their message through, and it's much
easier with young people than when those who already have

(01:31:50):
their ideas very hard semantity into their minds. So that's
why they approach the young people more than others. But
everyone who is open to the possibility that there are
more than we see with a naked eye can possibly

(01:32:13):
be approached. So it's not about age, it's about how
open you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Are, all right, all right? And we have Roger Murray
stepping in asking Karina question, doctor Stephen Greer claims there's
going to be an alien invasion. What do you think
about that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Well, Stephen Greer has a lot of ideas and a
lot of information, I think because he is also a
contacte like me. If there is an invasion, and I say, yeah,
they will come in a great muss, they will come,

(01:32:55):
but not as an invasion, not as something that has
to be feared. But there will be a lot of
them coming. Yes, I know Stephen Greer has seen it
as I have, as we have seen all of us,
and we know they are coming, but we don't We
also know they are friendly and not here to help,

(01:33:17):
so I wouldn't call it an invasion rather a visitation.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
Do you think they're coming on three Eye Atlas?

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Atlas is something very intriguing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
We'll know, we'll know. I think the third of October
is Friday. I think this coming Friday, so we should
know something by Friday. So, sitting on pins and needles
waiting to see Marie Kay is asking you do reptilians
have different scale or skin colors like humans do?

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
I have only met with one tillium and he's scaly,
but his scales are soft, shiny and look very much
like a say, the skin of a lizard. On Earth,
they have different colors, I suppose, but as I have
only met on I'm not quite sure about the rest

(01:34:20):
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
All Right, and then let's see Jose Sanchez stating the
Nordics have allegedly been reported to cooperate with grays in
their DestinE activities. Okay, so that's a statement we got
to decipher. Asking, can Karina tell us what species are
linked to what type of craft?

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
No, I'm afraid I can't. There are so many different
kinds of craft. If you watch television, you will see
at least one hundred different shapes of craft, and we
can't for certain know who is on board, if there
is anyone on board. Many of these craft are conscious

(01:35:06):
in themselves, are half biological, half not, so it's hard
to say. I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
All right, Awesome, let me see Cody Eyler is stating
I was once attacked while remote viewing. Have you ever
been physically blocked in or attacked?

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
No? I have been blocked, yes, for special reasons when
I saw something that I wasn't supposed to see. But
I have never been attacked.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
For I have.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
I have so far not remote viewed place is where
I know there are enemies on the these places, so
I avoid them so luckily. Yeah, I have not been attacked.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
All right. And let's see Marie Kay asking, do et
species know of the prime directive? Do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
So time?

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Do?

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
Some do not? I mean there are et species of
all kinds. There are even those that are a lot
less evolved than we are. Most of them are more evolved,
and those no of the directives, some don't. That is,
I mean, there are so many, many, many, many, many

(01:36:41):
millions and billions of them. You can't talk about some
species know some don't because there it's individual.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Yeah, and you know, just thinking real quick, I thought
I had. As far as extraters go, I've always looked at,
you know, some people that talk about, you know, them
being so far advanced in us that there is no relation,
no way to really relate. And I always talk I

(01:37:14):
talk about this movie called District nine, which is a
movie about aliens that kind of get stuck here on Earth,
and when we interact with them, we find out they're
not these super smart beings. They're advanced as far as
their technological capabilities, but they're no smarter than us, and

(01:37:34):
we may find out that that's the case with some
of these beings as we come across them. The Jakeeta
is asking, would you say the Bible talked about this
event whereas ones taken, we're chosen, and those remaining are
called the remnant.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Yeah, I know the Bible talks a lot about those
who are taken up and those who are left behind.
I think the Bible has a lot to say about
a lot of things. And you should remember that the
Bible is after all, not written by God or any

(01:38:18):
divine being at all, but written by humans with their understanding,
the understanding they had at the time they wrote. So, yes,
there will be a divide. There will be those who
are taken and are broad in spaceships to other places
or to safety, and those who are remain, who remain

(01:38:42):
called the remnant if you like. It will happen, but
not exactly in the way that a Bible tells us
tells us so, but you know, it is a question
of how you react to what happens. People are said

(01:39:06):
to join the New Earth if they are sufficiently evolved,
and those who are not or are ignorant will be
left behind that is a half truth. A lot will
be saved also because even if they are ignorant, because
they are the non human beings who come will select

(01:39:30):
those who they think must be saved, and we don't
know why they have their agendas, and they are those
who those who neither help the earth to be restored,
nor even believe in aliens or whatever, they will probably

(01:39:52):
be left behind to work, to do, to live the
best they can, and they will be trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
Awesome stuff. And Roger Murrays asking Karna, doctor David Jacobs
believes aliens are walking next to us on the street.
What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Yeah, sure, they do, quite a lot of them, and
I have been done for centuries. They have always been here,
lots of them. And you may come upon without knowing
their aliens. So because they look they have adapted their faces,
their dresses and every their behavior to look like and

(01:40:38):
work and be accepted as normal beings. But sometimes you
can recognize them from what's in their eyes. You can
see their eyes. You can see there is something different
about them, but they have to be very observant. They
are there, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
Well, let me see me another question here, okay, Uh,
the Jacata is asking have you ever met someone in
person that you remote viewed?

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Yes, if you? If the questioner asks, if I have,
if I communicated with some some non human being when
I remote the question, The answer is yes, of course
I have. I've been in I cook, I met them,
I've I've cooperated with him. I still do, and I

(01:41:40):
meet them regularly in person. Though it must be remembered
that some all these beings may not be called persons,
They may not look like us at all, so but
they have a personality, they have some kind of action,

(01:42:04):
which is which makes it possible to communicate with them anyway.
So that was a lot of very odd meetings during
my time, during these forty fifty or sixty years of
communication that I have had.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Yes, awesome. And Jose Sanchez asking, do you think there
is any truth to a breakaway civilization from Earth having
already reached Mars or might that be disingenuous information?

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Let me put it like this, many many, many many
years ago, there was a civilization on planet Mars. Warn
Mars had a forests and rivers and an atmosphere. But

(01:43:05):
Mars has a very faulty gravitation because there is not
much iron into the kernel planet, so the gravitation makes
is not very good. That means that it can't keep
the atmosphere. The atmosphere left Mars by and by, and

(01:43:28):
with the atmosphere going, people left Mars and settled on
planet Earth instead, So we are kind of refugees from Mars.
But there are still beings there and we plan to
go there again, which is a danger to those who
still live there underground. So Mars is a problem, but

(01:43:54):
it is a known problem, so it will have to
be solved somehow, and others than us are working on that,
especially in the in the Council of Nine, which is
a meeting ground for you know, all habitated Yeah, planets

(01:44:16):
and moons in our Solar system. So it's it's it's
Mors is indeed one of the planets which is mostly
looked at and seeing what can be done about it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Yes, yeah, there's definitely I think a lot going on
over there with Mars.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Let me see Roger Murray asking, uh, Karina, do you
think government, the government will ever come clean about.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
UFOs If you refer to the US government and the
politicians and military people over there, Pentagon on everyone else there,
I say in the end they have they must be
forced to come out with disclosure. They must be disclosure

(01:45:10):
or if not, people will react. That will be so
much civil obedience and unrest that they need to come out.
They need disclosure. We all need disclosure, but it will
take some time before everything is at.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
All right awesome, And Jose said, just asking, could the
anti gravity t R three B black Man to exist
and if so, do you think that it could be
based off of captured UFO tech from crash saucers seventy
plus years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Oh, dear question, I mean anti gravity t or pre
be things exist. There are some that have alien origins,
Some are made in the United States or elsewhere on Earth.

(01:46:21):
They have used the crashed sources to mimic their technology
and so on. So it is very difficult to say
if you see a TB thing if it is from
ours or theirs. So I think the question is more

(01:46:46):
complicated than we think. But you know, all these crashed
sources have been investigated, have been collected and brought to
underground channels and used as as things to to to
develop our own spaceships from, and we are quite good

(01:47:09):
at it now, So it's hard to say which is which?

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
All right? I have gypsy Holt saying, Hi, Hi, Karina,
greetings from Australia. What do you know about Yowie's or sasquatch?

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Oh yaois, I know nothing at all. Sasquatch is to
my understanding, and I have learned from my non human
friends out there is a race of alien beings that
have stayed on Earth, been harrissed and and kind of

(01:47:49):
killed by humans, so they have gotten into hidings. So
they're very very hard to find nowadays. There are very
few of them. There are some in the forests, especially
in northern United States Canada, also in the high mountains
in South America, and also in the high mountains in Asia.

(01:48:14):
So there are a few of them still there, but
they are few, and they are kind of they have
very little to live from, They have very little, They
have no wish to communicate with humans. They mistrust us completely.
That's as far as it goes right now.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
Awesome, awesome. So then with that question, with the answering
that this is, this is a kind of an add
on Jose Sanchez asking a similar question, do you think
that Bigfoot might be an alien coming and leaving through
dimensions to get here to Earth and may not actually
be from here anyways. And I think you kind of

(01:48:56):
answered that, but if you want to add to.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
That, yeah, are from from another place. They are what
we call aliens. Though I think the notion of aliens
that's a bit odd, because we are also one of
the alien races that settled on a planet in this
solar system once upon a time, so unmingled with well.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Not that much.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
Developed races here on Earth and became humans what we
call it. Uh So they the Bigfoot or Sasketch or
whatever you call them, is another alien race that settled
on Earth along us or before us. So we are

(01:49:48):
all from elsewhere, all of us who live on Earth
right now. Also those beings that we call, you know,
the unseen, the elephant forks and or that have gone
into miss but still exists.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Awesome stuff. And von Patrick asked earlier tonight, Karina, how
and why is the earth overpopulated?

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
White's overpopulated it because we have allowed too many people
to have too many children. We have allowed too many
people to survive, thanks to medicine and the good surgeons
and all that. In earlier times, people died rather young.

(01:50:40):
They were perhaps thirty or forty years old. Nowadays we
reach one hundred and more sometimes, and we have very
good medicine, we have very good circumstances to live a
bit longer. And people still don't use contraceptions something, so
they get along a lot of children, and that is

(01:51:06):
more than the earth can sustain. So we should what
if we still eat meat, poultry, and fish and live
from that, we must reduce the population down to approximately
three billion instead of what.

Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
We have now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
But if if all go over to Gerian or region,
we could be more. But as things are right now,
the Earth will shake us off, because that's the laws
of nature.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
And I've always said that we're talking the same thing
humans getting and I think we're I've said, do extra
tressuals look at us as parasitic species because we we
affect the planet in more bad ways than we do good.
And you just pointed out something excellent. If we continue

(01:52:04):
to eat the meat of these living animals, and obviously
we're going to decimate them at some point, so that
would be the main reason to reduce population. Totally agree
with you on that. That makes total sense. Lavera Luccini
was asking Karina, how did you come to know you
could remote view. I became aware I could because I
could get sharpness, color and movement. I have nowhere a dept.

(01:52:25):
Because I stopped trying personally reasons. We have about one
minute for you to answer that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
How I knew I could remote you. It came from
going to a teacher who did to Remotevie and say, hey,
I want your lessons. I want to learn it remote you.
And so I did, and I found out I wasn't
a very good at itcher. So I had to train
for a lot for many years to become better. There
are only five percent remote viewers who are excellent and

(01:52:54):
who are on spot all the time, and I'm not
one of them. One of them, but I have trained
a lot, so I have got a lot of acquaintances
out there who help me.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
All right, and we'll make sure we put your link
in the chat here and as tamarth Man has done,
where else can everyone find you really quickly? Have about
ten seconds?

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Well they can find me?

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Was that a question?

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
Yes, by social media or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
I'm not on social media so far, but I can
always write to my email address which I can submit
to you.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
Okay, this program and I will put that in the chat, Karina,
thank you so much for getting up early for us
and having this fantastic conversation. I'll be reaching out so
we can get back together and set up another show.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
It was a pleasure, all right, take care, Thank you,
Karina Hopes. This guys hit that like gee on the
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Awesome stuff. Once again, Thank you to Karina Holtzwitz for
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we'll jump right into that right about now.

Speaker 9 (01:55:28):
Welcome to Tales, Untold and Missing Person's Mysteries on Space
Out Radios after Hours. My name is Steve Stockton, and
I'm here to take you on a journey of mysteries,
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adventure of tales, untold and missing person mysteries. We invite

(01:55:48):
you to join us for a trip down the strange,
strange rabbit hole that some refer to as the Bennington Triangle.
The area known as the Bennington Triangle, which surrounds Glastonbury
Mountain in the New England state of Vermont, as a long,
strange history of bizarre occurrences. This includes UFO sightings, big

(01:56:11):
Foot encounters, eerie lights and sounds, and the triangle also
happens to be the location of several unsolved disappearances during
the nineteen forties and nineteen fifties. If that is odd enough,
according to the Native American lore, the areas heavily cursed.

(01:56:32):
The Native American tribes of New England have always known
something was off with the area and tend to steer
clear of it at all costs. One particularly chilling legend
from the Algonquin tribe cautions of the existence of what
are described as evil rocks in the mountains, which have
the ability to spring open and devour those unfortunate enough

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to step upon them. Now, this is rather interesting, considering
how people have vanished without a trace from within the triangle.
New England author Joseph A. Citrow is the person considered
to have coined the term Bennington Triangle in nineteen ninety
two while doing a radio broadcast about paranormal and other

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unusual activity in the area. According to Citro's findings, he
states that the area has similar characteristics with the equally
strange Bridgewater Triangle in the bordering state of Massachusetts, which
has been written about extensively by cryptozoologist Lauren Coleman. The

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Bennington Triangle is centered around the heavily wooded forest of
Glastonbury Mountain and also includes the small towns of Bennington, Woodford,
and Shaftesbury, and also the abandoned or ghost towns of
Somerset and Glastonbury. Over the last two hundred years, there
have been many encounters with and sightings of a bigfoot

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like crypton in the area surrounding Glastonbury Mountain.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
The locals, as well.

Speaker 9 (01:58:04):
As paranormal and cryptoisiological investigators, refer to this unknown creature
as the Bennington Monster. The earliest recorded sightings of the
beast occurred in the early eighteen hundreds, when a stagecoach
loaded with passengers was forced to stop its journey due
to a heavily washed out section of the stage road.

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The driver the stagecoach observed that there were very large
footprints in the mud which were way too large to
belong to any human. While the perplexed driver was pondering
these prints, the stage coach was suddenly attacked by a
large creature. It was strong enough to flip the stagecoach
over onto its side. The terrified passengers stated that they

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observed a frightening pair of large eyes peering into the
overturned coach at them before whatever the creature was screamed
and then ran off to disappear in the surrounding woods.
The passengers would later describe the monster as a large, hairy,
black creature well over six feet in height. The area

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has long been rife with tales of people suddenly going
missing within the area of the triangle. One of the
oddest disappearances was that of a man named Carol Herrick
in nineteen forty three, Eric disappeared to while on a
hunting trip just a few miles northeast of the abandoned
town of Glastonbury. Although his body was found three days later,

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it was observed to be surrounded by dozens of footprints
too large for a normal person. It was also determined
that Carol appeared to have been squeezed to death. Then,
beginning in nineteen forty five and continuing for the next
five years, people began to go mysteriously missing from the

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area with an alarming regularity. A man named Middy Rivers,
the seventy four year old hunting guide very familiar with
the area went missing on November twelfth, nineteen forty five. Rivers,
who had led many hunting parties in the area over decades,
was taking a group of four hunters to the oddly

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named Hell Hollow area, which is located within the Southwest
Forest of Glastonbury. While leading the hunting party back to camp,
he somehow got ahead of the other four and for
reasons unknown, never returned to the camp site. At first,
the other hunters were not overly concerned because they knew

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Miny to be an expert woodsman and knowledgeable guide. When
Rivers still had failed to return the next day, the
authorities were contacted and an extensive search was held, comprising
as many as three hundred worried locals as well as
a number of US Army soldiers who had been dispatched
from nearby Fort Devons in Massachusetts. They searched through the

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deep wood for eight straight days, but the only possible
evidence found was an AMMO cartridge for the same type
rifle that Rivers was known to be carrying. The cartridge
was found in a shallow stream, and there was no
evidence of any foul play or animal attack nearby. Although
they had no luck with the extensive search effort, many

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of Mitty's friends and those local to the area were sure,
with the man's knowledge of the woods and survival skills,
he would eventually return. However, this never came to be,
and no trace of the missing guide has ever been found.
The area from which Rivers vanished is near Long Trail
Road and Vermont State Route nine. The very next year,

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on Sunday, December one, nineteen forty six, an eighteen year
old college student named Paula Weldon went missing while hiking
in the same area around Long Trail Road, remembered because
she was wearing a bright red jacket. Several people were
called seeing her that day, including a shop clerk in

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Bennington who had provided her with directions, and also a
couple of elderly hikers who had been approximately three hundred
feet behind her on the trail for part of their hike.
The alarm was sounded when the college sophomore didn't show
up the next morning for her classes at Bennington College.
An extensive search was launched by local authorities and included

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more than one thousand volunteer searchers. There were also searches
conducted from the air and with the assistance of the FBI,
and a five thousand dollars reward was offered. When interviewed,
the elderly couple who had observed Paula hiking just ahead
of them on the trail, stated that after they watched

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her turn a corner on the trail, she seemed to
have just vanished. Despite the extensive searches and the offer
of the five thousand dollars reward, no trace of paul
and Weldon has ever been found, and her fate remains unknown.
Exactly three years to the day of the disappearance of

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Paula Weldon, a man named James Tedford suddenly vanished from
a bus on December first, nineteen forty nine. A military
veteran and resident of the local Bennington Soldiers' Home, Tedford
was returning by a bus from Saint Albans, where he
had been visiting relatives when he vanished. Based on eyewitness accounts,

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Tedford and thirteen other passengers were on the bus at
the previous stop before the bus had arrived in Beddington.
When the bus pulled into the station, he had somehow disappeared.
His bags were still in the luggage track, and a
bus schedule was found lying open on his now empty seat.

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The other passengers stated that they didn't see Tedford get
off the bus at any of the previous stops, and
he wasn't on the bus when it pulled into Bennington.
Authorities investigated the disappearance and were convinced that no one
had seen anything and there were no suspicious incidents which
had occurred during the bus trip. One strange and interesting fact,

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it should be noted that Tadford's wife, Pearl, had also
vanished under mysterious circumstances a couple of years prior. Now
there aren't many details about his early life, but in
nineteen forty Tadford was listed as a resident in Franklin, Vermont,
with his wife, Pearl, who was much younger, her age
being twenty eight while he was fifty six. The strangeness

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began following Tedford's return to Vermont after the end of
his second round of military service near the end of
World War II. Upon his return, he found that Pearl
had vanished, no trace of her to be found, and
the house the couple had rented in Franklin, Vermont found
had been left abandoned. Teedford's family claimed no knowledge as

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to the Whereabouts's missing wife, and stated the last time
they had seen her was as she was on her
way to the Amaco gas station in Franklin. There was
speculation among the locals that rather than having met with
foul play, she had understandably grown tired of waiting for
her much older husband to return from war and had

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simply taken off. Whatever the cause, she was never to
be seen or heard from again. Tadford was crushed and
moved into the local home for soldiers, where he still
lived when he vanished.

Speaker 1 (02:05:40):
The next year.

Speaker 9 (02:05:41):
On October twelve, nineteen fifty an eight year old boy
named Paul Jepson was the next in the area to
go missing. Jepson was last seen in the cab of
his mother's pickup truck in Bennington, where she had left
him to play while she briefly tended to her pigs.
Other returned, she found that the boy was gone. She

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quickly looked for him in the nearby immediate area with
no luck, after which she reported him missing, and soon
hundreds of volunteers had assembled to help search for the
missing boy. Tracking dogs were brought in to aid in
the search for the missing boy. The dogs were able
to pick up his scent and followed it towards Glastonbury Mountain. However,

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when the scent was lost at a nearby crossroads, it
was thought that perhaps the boy had either been abducted
by a stranger or otherwise accepted a ride in a
passing automobile. Paul's father stated that oddly enough, the boy
had talked about visiting the mountain almost NonStop for the
last week or so. The area around Glastonbury Mountain was

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searched extensively for the next several days, but sadly, no
trace of Paul has ever been found. Then, sixteen days
after Paul Jepson's mysterious disappearance, a woman named Frida Langer disappeared.
On October twenty eighth, nineteen fifty Frida was camping with

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several other family members in the forest near Glastonbury Mountain. Langer,
then aged fifty three, along with her cousin Herbert Elsner,
had ventured away from the family's woodland campsite to go
on a hike near the Somerset Reservoir. They had managed
to hike just a few hundred yards from their campsite
when Freda lost her footing and fell into a mountain stream,

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completely soaking her shoes and clothing. Due to the chili
fall temperature in the mountains, Frida told her cousin to
wait while she ran back to their campsite to change
into some dry clothes. Her cousin stated that he waited
for what seemed like a sufficient amount of time, and
when Freda still hadn't returned, he decided to go back

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to the camp to see if she was okay. However,
upon his return, he was shocked to learn that Freda
hadn't returned to the campsite at all. She had instead
apparently vanished in broad daylight in the distance of a
few hundred yards. Brita was reported missing, and over the
next several weeks, search parties with as many as four

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hundred people, including concerned volunteers, law enforcement, firefighters, and military,
as well as some aircraft, searched for her and came
up empty handed. Sadly, the search was eventually abandoned seven
months later. However, on May twelfth, nineteen fifty one, Brita's

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body was discovered near Somerset Reservoir, strangely enough, in an
area that had been extensively searched many times previously advanced
decomposition of her remains meant that no cause of death
could be determined and her case is still unsolved. And then,
just as strangely and suddenly as they had begun the

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string of disappearances, Freedom Linger was the last person to
vanish mysteriously during this timeframe and the only missing persons
whose remains were found. Other than the geographic locations and timeframe,
no other connection has been discovered that tie these cases
to one another. Although some have speculated that a serial

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killer may be responsible for these strange disappearances, some blame
the Native American curse or simply claim that the paranormal
is to blame, as there appears to be an act
of portal here into the unexplained. There's also the theory
that the area is very unstable due to the unusually

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chaotic and confusing wind and weather patterns on the mountain,
which can cause people to easily become disoriented and then
lost as a result. Regardless of what is to be believed,
the Bennington Triangle is known to be home to strange
and mysterious paranormal phenomena, as well as aforementioned big footing

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counters and the stirring of mysterious disappearances. There are many,
many reports of strange floating orbs of light, sightings of
other bizarre forest creatures, and even the occasional UFO siding.

Speaker 1 (02:10:15):
All right, guys, that is Steve's doctor tells untold missing
person mysteries. Once again, we do appreciate Steve dropping these
stories on us here and shout out to those that
are missing in the families. Hopefully one day these people
can be brought home. As we go ahead and get
ready to jump into our after hours wrap up with

(02:10:37):
none other than our guy, Drew Banky monster dumb ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
I'm gonna eat ye, get in.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
My dem ahead, and there goes Rob.

Speaker 1 (02:11:07):
All right, the after hours wrap up with none other
than drewski Banky in the building. Drew, how you doing, sir, good?

Speaker 8 (02:11:16):
Super tired, but I am here, I'm present, I am
ready to work.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
That's what's up, man. We appreciate that. We appreciate you
stepping on in as always to give your perspective on
what it is and what it was that happened here tonight.
You know we had Karina helped this, joining us from
Sweden Usweden. I think is how they say it from
somewhere across the world, somewhere just not even close to here.

(02:11:46):
It's four in the morning there, as far as I
unders there were five six in the morning. Now she is,
she's the early riser, she says, So she's getting her
day ready to go right now. So glad that we
could actually get it kicked off for her. And she
was actually awesome, you know, with the topics that we
talked about today that I felt like they were talking

(02:12:08):
about in a different light. I didn't get the normal
feeling from you know, other people that I've talked to
about remote viewing. She has some great answers to some
of the things and perspective as well. So I was
pleasantly surprised by the end of the conversation and felt
like that it felt like it went well. Was there

(02:12:28):
anything you know that she may have addressed or stated
that kind of stuck out to you, anything that you
wanted to elaborate on or.

Speaker 8 (02:12:39):
Yeah, the the human reduction thing, that that whole part
of the conversation, that's you know that that's always uh,
that's that's always an interesting conversation because there's many prophecies
that talk about it. There's you know, there's there's whenever

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comes up, it always raises it always raised eyebrows, especially
for me. So when she started talking about that, that
was very pretty interesting for me. And and some of
the stuff about remote viewing, you know, you know, the
stuff that you have to look out for so and
where some a lot of people don't always address those things.

(02:13:24):
So it was it was interesting that she bring up
some of the stuff that she did.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
Yeah, the remote viewing definitely was it, and it felt
like it was coming from a from a place of experience,
and that was that was the takeaway, was like she's
explaining this as if this is definitely something she's experienced,
which I thought was definitely awesome. The population controlled thing,

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and that's always a controversial topic because some people weaponize
that topic and use it for or reasons that I
don't agree with, right, but then when you hear it
in that aspect that hey, it's it's as simple as
this isn't sustainable, like the we cannot be carnivores and

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you know, gluttonous and greedy individuals and essentially wiping out
certain species because of our appetite, and that you know,
the only answer to kind of going against that is,
either everybody goes vegan or we figure out some people

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have to leave the planet, you know, whether we won't
say popular controls means people have to just be unalive.
Some people just have to go to Mars now, and
we need to split this up because yeah, it's not sustainable.
So I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, perspective for sure.

Speaker 8 (02:14:54):
Yeah, well I agree with it, and I don't I
understand where the sentiment. But ultimately, like a lot, especially
here in the West, we are trained to eat like that.
Eating is really had become an addiction, like it's not

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needed to the extent that we.

Speaker 4 (02:15:16):
Do like these.

Speaker 8 (02:15:19):
Like going into a steakhouse and eating a you know,
ninety six ounce steak in under a half hour to
get a T shirt and things like that. That's the
type of mentality that we've lived in for generations and
generations when really you don't need that much protein in

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a day, let alone like a week. Like you're eating,
you're eating just for the sake of entertainment. You're eating,
you know, a week's worth of steak, really you or
protein what you should be eating when it should be
mixed in with everything else. So the balance of eating

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you know, we're kind of trained in the Western world
and this is you know, this is getting into a
very deep conversation about the food industry, and it goes
all the way into the cattle industry and the cattle
owners and things like that. It goes all the way
back to that like this that you can trace this

(02:16:23):
story back, but it's been influenced for generations for us
to where's even the slogan? If you're like from my area,
you remember the commercial where's the beef? And those words
they trigger something in you where you need to eat

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more beef. Those that slogan was bought and paid for
and was if you look into it, that slogan alone
was bought, paid for and researched by the cattle industry
and cattle owners associations things like this to what would
be most effective, and that that was put out there.

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There was money. There was money behind that slogan, and
that that's playing right into what was talked about tonight
about we can't be sustained. Yes, we can't be sustained
at the rate that we're eating food and animals and
things like that, but it's not it's not needed like that,

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And to the pigtail on that if people had to harvest,
process and cut up their own meat, they wouldn't eat
as much meats, and they would respect it a lot more,
and and things like that. That's that's why I'm a
big proponent of homesteading things like that, you know. Rate

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you know, part of homesteading is willing to you know,
harvest a chicken like you know, or goat or whatever
it is like, you know, and harvest that meat and
then you're eating that meat. It's a whole different story
than when you're going to a grocery store and you
buy a ten pounds stick of ground beef that is

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just in a tube, you know, and you're not you
had no part of the processing of it, so you're
not respecting and in that way anyways.

Speaker 1 (02:18:26):
And not only that, as we got about thirty seconds
before we go to break, everything you said is definitely
the truth. And the other element of that as well,
is we don't have to get out there and catch
our food, right because most animals in a while, they
exhaust themselves for that one and then they don't, you know,
they eat that and then it takes it's like a
meal every week or something like that. If we had

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to walk twenty miles to the grocery store to get
that steak, we probably wouldn't be eating them as much
as we do. And that's that kind of surplants, that
part of nature which we have disconnected from. But that
being said, we're going into the final break here with
Drew Bank. You dab. That was wrap up getting me
some interests and stuff here based on the conversation we

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had earlier tonight with Karina Hope Fitz all the way
from Sweden. And if you missed it, guess what. It's free.
It's in the archives. We'll be right back after the
breaks based out radio. After ours radio show, we'll have
some UFO news down the line as well. Make sure
you stay here for the rest of the show. Have
a great five minutes, see you back here. So all right,

(02:19:36):
we're clear. So yeah, I wanted to talk about in
the second half. We could talk more about this than
I wanted to talk about. I just came across some
coordinates for someone says an alien based in Antarctica. There's
a story about it. We'll kind of read it, and

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we'll read it. I love I love that when they
we get core coordinates somebody is literally sitting on Google
Maps just looking around the world for anomaloust things. And
a lot of people do focus on that Antarctica because
of the stories that have been told in rumors of

(02:20:18):
things that I don't necessarily fully buy into either. But
we'll talk about that after the break. Now, during the
break here we can talk more about Uh. You know
Chris Bledsoe in Washington, d C. With these UFOs. I
tried to find just a video clip that I couldn't

(02:20:38):
find it, but we could talk to it. Have you
seen the video?

Speaker 8 (02:20:42):
Yeah, you just go to his page, go to either
Instagram or Facebook on and.

Speaker 1 (02:20:48):
Let me see if I can find it there.

Speaker 2 (02:20:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:20:53):
But it's uh.

Speaker 8 (02:20:58):
Yeah, when we come back from break, we talking about
I let it like to touch on the whole cooking
and growing your own food and harvest your own food.
If you think about it, that's the oldest ceremony that
we have. That's the oldest and most sacred ceremony that
we have, because long before we were setting down praying

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to a higher power like that, there was trying to
build a fire, lighting a fire, learn how to cook food,
learn how to harvest, and that was all part of
that was all looked at as a ceremony and it
still is, you know, by people very deeply. But I
want to get into that when we come back.

Speaker 1 (02:21:43):
All right, we can do that. That'll just continue what
we were already talking about. Yeah, and let me see.

Speaker 8 (02:21:56):
But yeah, ultimately, Chris's turn in tarned a lot of
heads by what he's doing, and he's opened and he's
opened the conversation up in a very serious way.

Speaker 1 (02:22:07):
So well, but here's the thing that concerns me about it. Well, well, well,
well I guess we did. Yeah, we'll talk about it now.
It wasn't picked up by news, it wasn't picked up
a nationally. The only person who even partly talked about
was Ross Coulthart. You would think that that that that
this incident happening the day of the UFO hearings over

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the Capitol Building, that this would be something that all
these outlets would be talking about, and I just haven't
seen it. So that concerns me because why is that?
You know, that's why why wouldn't you show this that?
That would be the question that I would have uh
to these outlets.

Speaker 8 (02:22:51):
You know why, you know, because it's not because they
they got you know mass shootings too that they got
other shock value, Like I don't, I don't understand why
they it's not being taken seriously enough by the masses.
It's and I'm not saying Chris, I'm not I'm not

(02:23:12):
saying Chris is not being taken seriously. I'm just taking
the whole thing is not. It's not being looked at
for what is actually happening. Maybe this Atlas thing is
a big mothership coming man.

Speaker 3 (02:23:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
That's why I say when when you look at things
individually and how things happen in life period, not just UFOs,
you get incidents that happen this one time, and then
down the line another incident and then and you're looking
at each one in real time and you're just like, Okay,
it's weird, but let's move on. But if you took
all those weird incidents and you put them together and

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you looked at them at one time, then you're like,
oh my gosh, and you could kind of see what
the bigger picture is. That's what they hope that we
don't do, and that's kind of what we do on
this show, is we actually try to connect those gods
so you can see them all together to say, hey,
you know what, there is something weird going on there.

Speaker 8 (02:24:09):
There is a pattern in spirituality that you can see
and when you start to see it, then you can
start It's it's crazy. It just all starts unravel like
when you start to see the pattern in spirituality and
when it's coming and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (02:24:23):
But they overfill, they overfill your plate.

Speaker 8 (02:24:28):
Yeah, yeah, but that's what happens. You know that they
try to trickle it, but when it's uh, when they
have no control over how it comes, like you they
can come back right now, go.

Speaker 1 (02:24:42):
Ahead, all right, everybody, welcome back Space Out Radio to
app THATURS radio show. We are on the back half
of the third hour, back in the mix with Drew Bank,
you talking the APP and the APP hours wrap up
talking what happened tonight in tonight's conversation. We're gonna get
in some really good stuff here to make sure you
don't go anywhere for the last twenty minutes of the show. Also,

(02:25:05):
if you missed anything that we've done tonight, it's in
the archives. It's free go check it out YouTube dot com.
Four slash its faced Out Radio. And so we left
off at the end of the break talking about just
making a statement that you know a reason why it
makes sense with the guests made the statement earlier tonight,
saying one of the reasons for depopulation essentially would be

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because we're just eating up all the meat and if
we were able to do something different, if we had,
if we literally had to be nature beasts and get
out there and catch this food, it would be a
totally different story, and then maybe we wouldn't have to
look at it this way. But then based on that,

(02:25:49):
that also shows why our the technology, in the things
that we've built to make life comfortable more comfortable, that
the same thing that's taking us further away from nature
is a reason why we would have to come to
a conclusion like depopulation, which sounds insane, but it's like

(02:26:10):
it's because of the smaller things that have led up
to having to make a decision like that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:26:18):
But it's we've been led there because this whole thing
is like the food industry, beef industry, like we was
talking to we was touched on before before break, it's
diabolical really when you look into it. They've they've they've
plan out twenty thirty years in advance, so all this

(02:26:40):
stuff like it's not it's it's an overeating that's been
implanted into us, as to what I'm trying to say,
And it's not just happened in our generation. It's multi
generational that's been going on of overeating and over consumption
to feed industry ultimately to feed a dollar. And that's

(02:27:05):
where when you start, when you start to unravel this stuff,
you start to see that a lot of these industries
are the same way that one goes into another. Like
like going through this process of selling houses and everything,
I realized, like this whole process could be so much
faster and more streamlined. But the industry has created jobs

(02:27:31):
and manufactured jobs and manufacturer positions and needs where needs
were needed, you know, Like and then it hit me,
it's like, oh my god, Like almost all industries are
like this. There's all these needs that are manufacturer needs
that are really not needed. Like if anyone has ever

(02:27:54):
been through the buying selling process, they know what I'm
talking about. Like there's so many people that you have
to go through, so many hands that have to get
have to have to be part of buying and selling
a house, where you know, going through that process, you
know half those people are not even necessary for the

(02:28:15):
process to even go through, like legit, like half the
people are not needed for that process to go through.
And I think all industries, food industries, pharmaceutical ndoris like
all these things, these manufactured jobs that people make for
other people that are not actually needed, and that that's

(02:28:37):
just over consumption and on a grand scale.

Speaker 1 (02:28:41):
And when you think about, uh, it's supposed you're supposed
to come up with a solution to a problem, to
solve a problem, not create problems to be solved more
problems to be solved. That's that's what they call that.
That's bad awkwards uh, And that's exactly what that is.

(02:29:03):
And you have to think, right as you were talking
about earlier, just getting back to nature and kind of
growing your own stuff. People on the face of it think,
don't think too much about that. But there's power in
that because my mother and I use her example because
she is still doing this today and she's in a
in a huge, you know, concrete jungle, hugely populated city,

(02:29:28):
but she is taking the plot of dirt that she's
got that she has in her backyard and she is
sectioned out a part for a garden and she grows
fresh vegetables and things there that that she that everyone
should be doing with the amount of space it takes.
It doesn't take any space at all to do this,
and everyone should be doing it. And if we just think,

(02:29:51):
if we were more connected, and there are people that
are fully like I would count yourself as being one
of these people that are more connected to that natural side. Right,
you're a homesteader and you've you've had to do these
things like on a daily basis, and and I feel
like being closer, you know, more closely connected to nature

(02:30:13):
is where we're all supposed to be. And then when
you are just like you talked about, some of those
problems that get created go away. And then imagine how
many other problems go away the more we connect ourselves
closer to nature. How many problems just immediately get resolved immediately,
And it's a lot of them. If you were to

(02:30:35):
sit down and write a list of how many things
would be resolved by just reconnecting ourselves or realigning ourselves
with nature and our natural self, it is insane, it's
world changing.

Speaker 8 (02:30:48):
Well, well, we can even take a layer of that
off because sometimes when you mentioned nature, you know it
shuts people down. You know, they don't want they don't
want to be a hippie or anything like that. Let's
just let's just take a layer off that. What you're
really doing, on a really basic level is creating creating

(02:31:10):
cycles of energy that close loops of cycles of energy.
You know, you're you're growing a tomato. You know, we
have chickens, we're collecting eggs, and and we're eating those
you know, hawks eating like two eggs a day. I'm
getting about three or four eggs from the chickens, hawks
eating it to a day, So that it's a cycle

(02:31:31):
of energy. It's not it you take away that layer.
You know, it's it's connection and nature in a way,
but really it's it's just closing a cycle of energy
that nobody else is coming into. You know, there's no
stranger's energy that's coming into my son's breakfast. You know,

(02:31:52):
maybe maybe at lunch and dinner, Like you know, we're
not totally sufficient and like all our food doesn't come
from this land's is that the loop is not closed
on all accounts, but his breakfast, my son's breakfast at
least till he doesn't like eggs, you know, he goes
to these phase. He loves eggs, hates eggs, back and
forth or right now he loves eggs. So his breakfast

(02:32:15):
is close. In my mind, what I see and how
I see, how I see it is it's a closed loop.
It's all on this land. Nobody else is in the
only person that's in between him and that and that
loop is me.

Speaker 3 (02:32:31):
You know.

Speaker 8 (02:32:31):
There's no stranger in a factory. There's no uh semi
truck driver that transported there. There's no teenager that that
put the curtains out and stock the shelves in the
grocery store. And there's no cashier that checked us out.

Speaker 1 (02:32:48):
You know.

Speaker 8 (02:32:49):
So all those all those different energies you could be
it could go into the meal like and it's breaking
it down even furtherest not really about the food and
absorbing the energy. It's the liquid. It's the water that's
inside inside the food, inside the meat, inside the fruit,

(02:33:10):
inside the whatever whatever food there is. The there's a
there's a certain amount of liquid water H two O
mini wachoni sacred water that's in there that has been
proven scientifically that whole water holds memory, frequency and vibration
over time. So that means that food holds holds energy

(02:33:35):
as as it's passed through different hands. So that's why
it's you know, it's becoming more and more important of
where where you eat your food from. I can tell
when I eat food that comes from like a local farm,
or when I like buy buy meat from if I'm
out traveling have to like, uh get like fast food

(02:33:58):
or something like that, I can tell the different and
like factory food where like factory meat or something like that.
Like I'm I don't practice what I preach, you know,
I'm I'm part of the problem. You know, I over
consume meat and and all that stuff I'm part of.
I'm definitely part of the problem. I love steak, and

(02:34:20):
I love eating too much steak, But I do recognize of, uh,
you know where where it could change and we could
all get along and we could all survive.

Speaker 1 (02:34:33):
I believe, Yeah, we're gonna have to we were, you know,
we we gotta find some solutions, a list of solutions
that we need to be checking boxes off of in
order to kind of bring ourselves back in and get
ourselves more manageable. Because right now, if we have to

(02:34:53):
think about depopulation, that means we've done, We've went the
wrong way. Some at some point, we've done something wrong
and we need to write that. If we have the
we can sit down and think about it and talk
about it, and we can figure out potentially a way
to do that. And that's kind of just another version
of what we do here as well. With that being said,

(02:35:13):
I wanted to go over this while I still have you,
So we'll go over this story here on this thing
found on Google Map. Somebody put cordinets out there. That
way I can get you out of here, so you
can go ahead and get your rest on and I
can close out the show with a couple of stories here.
But I wanted to talk about this Google map user

(02:35:34):
claims they found imagine this in Antarctica, an alien base
on a cliff, and there's coordinates, and we're going to
take a look at them. So for people at home,
if you type in this is the easiest way I
can tell you. People on radio, people at glasses, if
you type if you google alien base Antarctica, just say

(02:36:00):
do that and this story should come up for you.
Coordinates should come up for you as well. But I'm
gonna start the story and actually let me bring up
the image on screen for everyone else here to see.
All right, So for radio people on screen, we have

(02:36:25):
if I remove this here, we have an image of
Google Earth and it's pointing to a particular point on
the map on the continent of Antarctica. We are going
to zoom in on this in a moment to see
what people have been seeing. I'm gonna start the story
before we do that. So Google Maps user claim they

(02:36:46):
found alien base under a cliff in Antarctica. A disclike
object has been spotted by conspiracy theorists and Antarctica. Hold
your horses, folks. Google Maps users have stumbled up on
another uf and it's worrying conspiracy theorists everywhere. People are
convinced that a crash landed alien spaceship is readily available

(02:37:09):
for viewing online if you go to specific coordinates. It's
worrying people on social media and even more eerily, the
item has been found in Antarctica. Google Maps is the
center of numerous conspiracy theories, with many claiming they've seen
evidence of alien life due to screenshots taken by satellites.

(02:37:33):
In all fairness, how would a one thousand foot UFO
go undetected by humans, regardless of where it is on
Earth but now around. Entity has been found beneath a
cliff around ninety miles from the coast of Antarctica, which
might be enough to get certain transformers fans a bit

(02:37:53):
excited whether it's say man made, something otherworldly or American
ufologist has claimed that it could be stuck under a
rock and yet another conspiracy theory, almost appearing like an OREO.
It has been theorized that the item might even be
hidden on purpose, as UFO Sidey's daily website stated on

(02:38:15):
YouTube quote, the UFO is still there, too hard to
recover or still being used question mark. He asked to
see the structure yourself. Head to Google Maps and type
these coordinates into the search bar. Now sixty six by
sixteen twenty four point five south, then one hundred fifty

(02:38:42):
nine zero three point five east. Type these into Google.
It's about forty five miles from a domed ice island
known as mill Island, while also being just six miles
from the A. B. Dobrowski Polar Station, a Polish research base.
The object has a silver line going around the rim,

(02:39:05):
which has intrigued many UFO fans, though the rest looks
to be black In color, which stands out from the
rock and snow around The objects heavily pixelated online, but
there are some odd black lines also stretching between the
plate and the rock. Wearing said on the UFO sidneyse
Daily website that it was discovered two years ago. Other

(02:39:25):
spot of the UFO object even earlier. A quick search
on Reddit shows users asking about the object in twenty
twenty one, labeling it as UFO crash site. On the forum,
one suggested it could be a weather balloon, while another
suggested it could be a pond of melt water. Others
spoke about stuff weird, stuff you can see in Antarctica,

(02:39:48):
while others said it had an ominous appearance. Now before
I read the last line, we'll go ahead and take
a look at this object. And if you got those
coordinates on the radio end, you can type this into
your browser. Should get exactly what we are going to
take a look at here. So this is the coordinate
and this is zooming in and this is what they're

(02:40:09):
depicting this thing right here. This is what they're saying
is a UFO under a cliff. And Okay, I think
we've got way too far in Okay, so let me
try to center this and see what we can see

(02:40:30):
getting closer. All right, very strange, very weird. Let me
back out one super pixelated Okay, Drew Baking, what are
you thinking when you see when you see this, what
are you thinking? Let me bring it up full screen?

(02:40:50):
What are you thinking?

Speaker 8 (02:40:54):
I don't know, man, I think it looks like a
water or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:41:03):
Okay, all right, it's fair, let me back out.

Speaker 3 (02:41:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (02:41:08):
It's pretty pretty defined edges.

Speaker 1 (02:41:11):
Huh yeah, I mean it's they're calling a UFO under
a rock and I guess they're according to what we
just read it said, it's about a thousand feet uh
so that's crazy. So yeah, and you think about immediately
the UFO so big they had to build a building
around it, right, This wouldn't be that.

Speaker 6 (02:41:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:41:34):
I know some people out there think that this is
a UFO, and I would, off the back think it
was until I read the very next line. Sorry to
poke a hole in your fun, though, UFO geeks as
a scientist from the University of Newcastle has revealed that
that it's a small lake in a rock basin. So

(02:41:56):
paradolia kicks in and this looks like a flying saucer.
But apparently, according to a scientist, this is a body
of water a lake in the basin, and now you
can probably see it being a lake at this point,
because that's what happened to me after I read the story.
I was like, you know what, Okay, it does definitely
look like a lake at this point. And then if

(02:42:17):
you back out and you look at the terrain, you
can see other little pockets in other places that if
you were to look at these things and say it
was something anomalous, uh, you wouldn't be able to explain
it right away. And to just to find out that
it's a lake, So ye wanted to point that out.

(02:42:37):
And it's just a lesson, right what not? Everything is
as it seems, and you should probably called it. I
called it, you did, and that's why I was gonna
say that. I was like, Jared, look at you banky.
But Drew with that being said, man, uh, that's where
we're gonna go ahead and end that there, and I
want to go ahead. Thank you for coming on in.
I'll let you go ahead and get back to bed

(02:42:58):
and we'll talk this. We can get some things straightened out.
And outside of that, you have anything you want to
leave with the audience.

Speaker 8 (02:43:05):
Nope, much loved. Everybody, have a good night.

Speaker 1 (02:43:09):
All right, Drew, take care man. Thanks all right there,
all right, guys, as Drew Banke uh stepping in for
a half hours wrap up, fantastic. We're gonna try to
fit in one weird UFO news story before we get
about here. I thought that was pretty eye opening at
the very least. Right here we go, ladies and gentlemen,

(02:43:29):
can I please have your attention.

Speaker 3 (02:43:33):
I've just been handed in a verges and qualifying news story.

Speaker 7 (02:43:41):
All of you stop what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (02:43:49):
UFO and weird news of the week, And this is
gonna get really weird because I'm going to talk about
a bizarre simulation shows deadliest fart. Yeah, you got that right,
flatulent farts in history that cause death of ten thousand people.

Speaker 2 (02:44:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:44:07):
We often joke about farts that are silent but deadly,
but in the case of one Roman soldier, his flatulence
led to the depths of over ten thousand people. And
we're gonna go ahead to make sure we read that.
And this is right up spaced our radio's alley, right,
because this is definitely a flatulence sort of channel, and

(02:44:29):
very proud of it. So with that being said, we
often joke about farts of the silent but deadly, but
in the case of one Roman soldier, is flatulus led
to the deaths of over ten thousand people. While it
might seem like a funny or even childish thing to do,
pretty much everyone does it on nearly a daily basis,
and we can actually learn a lot about our bodies

(02:44:49):
based on the particularly pungency it gives off. And unfortunately,
both farting and holding on to a fart too long
can have some pretty disastrous health effects, as one woman
was left with a seven year infection after her ex
farted in her face in a hotel room. Given the

(02:45:10):
diets of people these days, which can often include nothing
but meat and eggs, or even just pure bull testicles
in the case of the liver King's wife, is surprising
you don't hear about more deaths that arise from a
particular bad case of breaking wind. However, it was all
the way back in five seventy BC, according to the

(02:45:30):
renowned Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, that a Roman soldier's action
invertedly inadvertently led to the deaths of thousands after he
thought it'd be funny to fart in a sacred temple.
A bizarre simulation from the Art of War YouTube not
sun Zu's account has shown off the infamous incident and

(02:45:51):
explained exactly why so many people have lost their lives
to the fetid fart. The book two, chapter eleven of
the Book of Jews Josephus also explains how the fart
prompted a not so silent and particularly deadly riot from
those within the temples. He writes, when the multitude were
come together to Jerusalem to the feast of unleaving bread,

(02:46:15):
and a Roman cohort stood over the cloisters of the temple,
one soldier pulled back his garment, carrying down after indecent manner,
turning his breach to the Jews, and spoke such words
as you might expect from such a posture. At this time,
the whole multitude had indignation and made a clamor to

(02:46:36):
Communists that he could punish the soldier. Now, poor Canmuonists
was probably already pretty angry at his parents for that
spectacular name, and he clearly wasn't about to stand for
any ish or farts, and those whose noses have been
offended by the words from the Roman soldier's bottom decided
to throw back some rocks, starting a riot. Reinforcements then

(02:46:58):
showed up, and the riot soon became massively overcrowded, with
ten thousand people allegedly unlive, either in the ensuing violence
or simply from being crushed by the huge number of people.
So if you've ever got one brewing neu a religious temple,
it might be best to hold on to it until
you're at home. And we figured that'd be a nice

(02:47:19):
way to end the show, right because Spacedown Radio often
goes there, and we're going there tonight. We want to
thank our guests, Karina Holts that from Sweden ours one
or two excellent conversation. Also Steve Stoctor toes and told
miss person Mysteries, Drew Banky with the after hours wrap up.
And we also want to thank the man that you

(02:47:40):
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