Sept. 29/25 - Strange Days with Lon Strickler - Spaced Out Radio

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(00:26):
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number three with another creepy story. Then the UFO Wizard
Josh Rutledge returns for the UFO Report. Let's get right
to it. Lawn Strickler is a well known for tea

(03:33):
and researcher, author, and radio host who has dedicated decades
to investigating the paranormal. Born and raised in Pennsylvania, Hanover
to be exac near the Gettisburg Battlefield, Lawn's interest in
the unexplained was sparked at an early age, had cemented
in nineteen eighty one after a personal Bigfoot encounter. Two
thousand and five, he Launchfanomsomonsters dot Com, a blog that

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has since been become a staple for everybody looking for current,
up to date information on the stories and encounters people
like you and me are having. You can find all
of Lawn's books on his website as well. Let's bring
him on in. Lawn Strickler always a pleasure to have
you on spaced out Radio. My man, how are you?

(04:16):
I'm hanging in there, Dave, right on, right on. It's
good to see you, my friend. What have you been
up to? Busy?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I got a lot of lot of stuff going on,
putting the finishing touches on a book, and I'm just
looking into a few things here and there, a lot
of local stuff and doing some local presentations and a
few other things.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
So yeah, but I'm keeping busy. Well, that's good, that's good.
What's the new book on the glimmer Man? No way, Yes,
that sounds pretty interesting. How do you come up with that?
How do you come up with that? How do I
come up with them?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Well, first of all, I mean, it's a subject I
don't think there's really any or any books out there
about and it just sparsely talked about.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
But myself and.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
The guys over expanded perspectives that I started looking into
this phenomena about eight or nine years ago, and they
started talking about it on their show, and of course
I started talking about it on my show, and the
interest has gotten bigger and better, and.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
It's just something that kind of blends into.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Pop pop culture with the whole Predator phenomena with the
cloaking and everything and what people describe. It's very similar
to what that is, and people are starting to come
forward now, so we collected enough inquiries to do a

(06:02):
book and we decided to put together put it out there.
And actually we're getting more and more reports as we
go along, so there may be another one in the future,
but we'll see how this one goes.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
First, For people who may not know or maybe tuning
in for the first time ever trying to figure out
what the glimmer man is, could you give us a description.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
It's basically, it's a humanoid form where the actual form
itself looks like glass scene or like a watery invisible
type of shape.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Many times they have yellow eyes.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Many times they click like they see in the Predator movies.
But it's very similar to that cloaking at the alien
takes in the movie, the movie series, and for whatever reason,
you know, it's kind of sparked our interest that we
wanted to look into further. Actually, we have no idea

(07:03):
what it is, but the reports are becoming fairly worldwide
now and I've had a few settings even near me.
So yeah, so it's something different. It's known, but there's
not a whole lot talked about. And as far as

(07:26):
doing a book, we're going to see how the book
goes and see how the interest comes out with the book,
and we'll see.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
But that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
It's a phenomenon of some type of invisibility that some
type of being, unknown being is using to possibly cloak
itself or it's actually that's the nature of the beast.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
No kidding. How tall is this? Describe it to us
if you don't mind.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
They're usually normal man's anywhere from five to six foot.
A lot of a lot of the slightings are actually
made by hunters who are either many times in their
tree stands and they happen to notice, uh, something moving
on another branch of another tree. And as they watch it, it

(08:18):
starts to move and they can see the outline of
the form, but they can see no features other than
maybe the yellow eyes maybe light up occasionally, but they
see the the out the outer edges of this being
moving about, and uh, then they watch it. Sometimes it

(08:41):
takes off and runs and jumps across the tree limbs
and bowels, and yeah, it's pretty interesting. I mean, uh,
everybody reacts to it differently, But yeah, it's it's it's
just something very strange, and we've got all types of
people that are seeing it. And maybe if we put

(09:06):
some light onto it and bring some attention to it,
people will start looking into it more to see what
this actually is. When does it seem to appear just
out of nowhere. That's just what I've been told. For
the most part, people will be doing what they normally do. Say,

(09:27):
like I said, a hunter is up in the tree,
stand up above the ground and notice movement out of
the corner of his eye and look and it looks
like he can see something, but when it moves, then
he knows it's something different. Occasionally somebody else see it
on the ground, very rarely. Most of the time they're

(09:48):
up in trees. I've had people who have looked out
their balcony windows or been on the balcony and have
seen them in the trees near their homes. Occasionally, somebody
will be in a car and going down the road
and see something moving in the brush, and this thing

(10:08):
will show itself, but they don't really get a good
look at it, and they start wondering what it was.
So I don't know if they're like a watcher type
of creature, or if they are alien. Maybe they are alien,
we don't know, or maybe they are a cryptid creature,
possibly an indigenous creature that has found some way of

(10:32):
cloaking themselves. A lot of people believe that it may
actually be a bigfoot or a dog man that has
found a way to cloak themselves. But I don't know
how true that is, but there have been some sightings
where it indicates that it may very well be a bigfoot.
Sometimes people have seen it partially in that cloak form

(10:56):
or in a humanoids or shimmering form, kind of half
and half as it's moving in and out. So yeah,
we really don't know what it is, and that's what
we're trying to find out.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
One of the details that I heard about this line
was that many people believe that this glimmer man is
a cloaking mechanism for sasquatchy.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
That's what people have been trying to tell us. I mean,
it could be. I know that sasquatch do have some
aspects to where they can kind of manipulate light occasionally.
I don't know if it's because of the hair or
the way light reflects off their body, especially if they're

(11:47):
in the woods and then going in between shaded and
lighted areas. But as far as this mechanism that's used
by these glimmer beings, I don't really know. I don't
know if it's connected to big it or not.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Are they seen in all areas or are they just
seen in little clusters they're.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
They're seen mostly in forested and areas that have a
lot of brush. Very rarely do they see them out
in the open.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
We have had a few where people have been driving
down the highway or down the road and this thing
across in front of them. They wouldn't It looks invisible basically,
but they can see the form of the outside of
the forum as it's crossing the road. And in fact,
there main seems to be the one state where most

(12:38):
of those sightings acrossing the road are are reported.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
I don't know if it's something to do with the
state itself, but we get a lot of reports of
weird stuff crossing the road up there. I don't know
why it is, but uh yeah, so we've been got
we've gotten reports from that as well. But like I said,
it's a worldwide phenomena we've had and all continents.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Man, I mean, it makes you wonder the attitude of
these things. Are they just showing up out of nowhere
or are they just showing up in places that they
normally would. I mean, I look at the story of
what's her name, Jan Jen maccaby.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well that's where it started from. Jan mcaby was basically
the first person who talked about it, and that's basically
where the original or where the concept that this thing originated.
And yeah, I mean what she described is very similar

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to what people are seeing.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So for people who don't know the Jan mcaby story,
do you want me to tell her? Do you want to? Yeah,
you go ahead kill it. So Jan mccabee was married
to a famous UFO scientist named Bruce McCabe who has
since passed away unfortunately God his soul. Yeah, and Jan
one day on their property was hunting before some company

(14:07):
came over, because she has been hunting this one bowl
deer or buck deer pardon me, okay for a while.
So she went up in her tree stand and she
started hearing these noises from the trees beside her. And
so when she kind of looked over out of her

(14:28):
peripheral vision, she saw this glimmer Man type creature jumping
through the trees, and in fact, it jumped right to
the trees next to her. Now, she wasn't sure if
it could see her because she was wearing camouflage, but
she was able to take a picture or two of

(14:49):
this glimmer Man type creature. Now, the funny part about
this Glimmerman incident was just down the road about three
four miles isles. The high school marching band was on
the football field training for or practicing for homecoming, and

(15:10):
during that time at practice, the band actually witnessed a
UFO above the football field at the exact same moment.
What do you think about that? Yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think it's more than coincidence. I don't really believe
in coincidence for the most part, so I believe there
may be a nexus or a connection with that being
and whatever you know they saw in the sky. But yeah,
it's it's it's a fascinating story. You know. When I
first heard about it, I hadn't even looked into any

(15:50):
of this. Of course, I had seen the Predator movie,
the original, and it did sound like to me. But
when she talked about it it was I thought, well,
maybe it's just another alien being that possibly had been
connected to it. But as time went on, occasionally another
setting would be mentioned. I do believe. I mean, I

(16:14):
don't know how long ago her setting was. It's been
a while, but it's that seemed to be where it
started at. And this phenomena, and this is another thing
we've been looking into. The the guy, the person who
wrote the screenplay for the Predator movie was was Hei

(16:34):
Nick's son, Jay he Nickson. Now I don't know if
it's connected to something that actually had happened. So, you know,
you sometimes wonder if some of the phenomena that people
talk about and kind of related to pulp culture are

(16:55):
really formulated by an actual an event that had and
that got part of became part of a screenplay to
whatever show. I mean, just like the Jeepers Creepers thing,
you know, that creature, that wing creature, the creeper in
those films was very similar to what people had referred

(17:18):
to the sightings in Chicago. I would say that maybe
twenty of these sightings were described to us as.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
The Jeepers, Creepers creeper.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Right, Yeah, So I don't know, you know, maybe people
just related to something they know of and that's what
they used. Are I don't know. I mean pop culture
comes into a lot of what we get as far
as reports go, especially with cryptids, So I don't know

(17:52):
if there's a relationship to this or not as far
as the glimmer Man. But we did make we did
make a note of it in the book about Haynik's
son doing that part of the doing the screenplay for
that for that film. So I don't know if it's
something his father had had been part of a case
or whatever it was. But people are seeing it now,

(18:16):
and it's increased as time's going on, So I'd say
it's The phenomenon itself is probably no more than a
decade or so old. Uh So maybe we're being watched
by something somehow.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
People who have seen or had encounters with this glimmer
Man type creature, what's the scenario of where they would
see it or why?

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Well, like I said, most of the most of them
were hunters up in tree stands, okay, just like what.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
With Maccabe's setting.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
But occasionally I had a siting near Gettysburg a couple
of years ago where the woman had her home was
out in the woods. She had a second floor deck
from that came off the bedroom, and she was in
the bedroom one morning cleaning or doing something and saw

(19:15):
something moving in the tree outside the window. She went
to the window, went out on the deck, and she
watched this thing as it was moving through the through
the trees. Most of the sightings by just regular people
are are because of something that saw outside of a
deck window or somewhere up that's tree level. We've had

(19:39):
a couple of those like that, so they're usually pretty
freaked out by it, but invariably most of the people
refer to it as looking like the predator cloak, the
predator creature.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Nobody's having these incidents, say within their house, or maybe
they're barn or their garage.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Occasionally occasionally, yeah, occasionally they are in a barn or
a nextterior building, not necessarily in the home itself, but
in the nextterior building that's part of the property that
has happened.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
The people who are seeing these, is there any mood
changes with them? Depression, anxiety, maybe trauma that's happened recently.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Not necessarily, but many times they you know, they kind
of dwell on it for a long period of time
until they make a report, and they only make the
report because of them reading somebody else having an encounter
like that. So of course people come forward on it.
But like I said before, it's a phenomenon that's not

(20:58):
talked about a lot. You don't see it. You don't
see it on a lot of any TV shows, I mean,
you know, any of the paranormal shows or anything like that.
I think most people will kind of relate to it
as being maybe a spirit that tries to manifest or something,
but from what we have seen, it just doesn't seem

(21:19):
to be like him.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
A lot of people have also equated this as a
shadow being, part of the Shadow Being family. Have you
found any information regarding that.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
No, I don't think it's a shadow being hat Man
or anything like that. Where it's like a shadow form
of a being that basically invades a home and causes issues.
Those things are pretty dangerous. I mean, I've been involved
with a couple of shadow being cases, and particularly up

(21:54):
in Canada for whatever reason, and a lot of times
the people are deeply affected by it, and it's not
an entity that's easy.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
To move on you.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Normally, it's normally associated with dysfunction in a family group
or something where there's a lot of negative energy involved
that attracts them, attracts these beings, they kind of feed
off of that. But the best way of getting rid
of it, like any type of Poltergeist situation, is to

(22:31):
tamp down on the energy they feed off of, and
they usually would just move on to somewhere else. It's
not like you can go into some type of session
where you can move them to another level or move
them out. That just doesn't work for this. So it's
an entirely different type of energy. And I don't I

(22:55):
don't haven't seen any association with the Glimmerman at all either.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Do you think the Glimmerman is alien? Do you think
it's paranormal? What are you leading to?

Speaker 3 (23:09):
I believe it may be a being, an actual corporeal
being that has the ability to cloak itself through some
type of technology, just like the movie basically, and it
just seems to be like that. I you know, we
got a lot more to look into at this, but

(23:33):
that just seems to be the nexus of these creatures.
But then again, you know, we really don't know. We're
just guessing at this point.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
We got about a minutes ago here before we got
to go to break at the bottom of the hour.
Lawns Strickler from Phantomsomonsters dot Com is here with us
on strange days here now, just curious for our listeners, lone.
I mean, if this thing can't be you know, controlled
or seen, and it might be alien, it might be

(24:05):
some sort of camouflage. Do you think that they're pretty
much everywhere? Like they could just end up? You know,
you walk out your home, maybe you got a tree
in your yard and there's all of a sudden one
of these silly things in there. I think it's possible.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, I mean the sightings are very random, so I
think this thing could show up or be noticed anywhere.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Actually, it's just creepy, isn't it. Yeah, it is creepy,
man alive, man alive. I couldn't imagine what it would
be like see this. I've seen some weird things. I
don't know what it would be like to see something
like this though. I mean, oh my goodness, Lawns Strickler,
hold on right there, We're gonna go to break here
at the bottom of the hour. Phantomsmonsters dot Com is

(24:52):
Lawn's website. You have a sighting, you can report it there.
If you just want to read what other people are seeing,
go for it free for you. Space Out radio continues
right after this. Alright, work clear, Oh man, I feel gros.

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you doing? Joshua. Nice to see you, Magnus for Magnuson,
Thanks for coming on in.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Jennifer Richardson, Ella Zaldi, Michelle Johansson. She prefers a soft jay. Sorry,

(27:55):
I'm not very talkative tonight. There long.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I did mention this before, but I have been getting
reports from people who've listened to your shoes the past
several months. Oh good, Yeah, that's exciting, and I do

(29:16):
know one of them came, was it Italy? Joe said?
He said, he sent a video over to you. Okay,

(29:38):
we have we have had a couple images of these things.
They're they're not very discernible, but you do see something
that has that glimmer look to it, so it's kind
of really hard to tell what it is. But when

(30:00):
they describe it to you what they've seen, it's very
similar to what else have seen.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
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Monsters dot com. Lone, welcome back, glad to be here

(32:06):
to you. What scares you? Not knowing.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Basically not knowing what, not knowing what is out there?
You know, this is something that I've thought about a
lot in recent years. You know, when I was younger,
I used to spend a lot of time in the woods.
You know, I used to hike all the time. When

(32:39):
I was a kid, I used to go hunting a lot.
Nothing bothered me at all until I started getting involved
with the paranormal, and especially after I had my big
foot encounter and then later having the uh the wing
humanoid encounter in eighty eight, I really started to realize that,

(33:02):
you know, there's some things out there we just don't
know about. And what I would do in a situation
of I had a confrontation, even though I had two
of them. I mean, there's something you never forget. But
if I had a confrontation, it was something that was
just beyond explanation, and how I would react to it

(33:26):
or if I would feel danger. I think that's what
really bothers me more than anything. M you know, I've
been involved with a lot of crazy cases, a lot
of really creepy cases, especially with hauntings and you know,

(33:48):
poltergeist and other things and strange things that are just
beyond explanation, but it's nothing that has happened to me.
You know, for the most part, when I am in
the presence of an energy, I can usually figure out
what's going on because of my abilities. But if you're

(34:11):
out in the woods somewhere in something, you confront something
that you just don't know what you're really looking at,
that kind of sends the hackles going and kind of
alerts you. And uh, yeah, that's what kind of frightens me,
even though I don't have a problem going out and
look for it, which is strange.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Now.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I've told you before, I never want to come across
a cryptic knee just no where, even though I'm out
there looking for them. I don't mind finding any evidence,
but I don't really believe I want to come face
to face or something like that.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Let's see here the fact of not knowing the answers.
When you look at everything you have studied over the years,
do you think you're close on anything or are we
still miles away?

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I guess it depends on the situation. I'd like to
believe that as the technology and the understanding becomes more apparent,
that it will lead to answers. Will will some of
these answers come forth in my lifetime? I don't know.

(35:34):
I hope at least one or two of them do.
But that's kind of the thing that kind of sticks
to my mind. Are we ever going to have any defunct,
I mean, definite answers of some type of phenomena? Or
are we going to figure out what a bigfoot is?

(35:54):
Are we going to figure out what a Malthman is?
Are we going to figure out what alien beings in ufo'.
We've got theories, and the theories may very well be
very close to what is actually going on, but we
just don't have any type of proof that you know,
that really sticks. And I'm hoping at some point we're

(36:18):
going to be able to find that out.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I asked our guests last last time we were on
the air, Pat Spain, I don't know if you know Pat.
I know Pat, I asked him, and I'll ask you
this question. Out of any of the cryptids that are
out there, which ones do you think we have the
best shot at finding alive and well.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
I'd say creatures that seem to have a normal or
natural feel to them. I know, you know when I
talked to Pat years ago, we were talking about the
Mongolian death worm. That's one subject we talked about, and

(37:11):
he thought at the time, because I know he had
investigated it, he thought that there was a very good
chance that that creature may very well be confirmed at
some point. He had talked about others as well, but
those creatures that seemed like there could be a natural
explanation for them. But as far as Bigfoot, maybe it's

(37:42):
so elusive and we haven't found any real physical evidence
that really connects it to it, other than possible DNA connections,
which you know, I guess however you interpret it. But
just like I've been involved with Maufman looking into the
wing humanoids and mouth man for many, many years, I

(38:07):
think we the the only thing that I find that
there could be an explanation for is that it's not
of this world. Somehow these things are coming into our
plane of existence, Uh, through some type of mechanism that

(38:28):
we just don't fully understand. That's about as close as
I've gotten to it.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Pat stated he believed is going to be some sort
of giant sea creature.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Well, that may very well be too. It's something that's
natural in an environment that we know very little about. Yeah, absolutely,
I think that's that's possibly true.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
See, I have a couple I think we could see
a regeneration of the thylacine m hmm. I think that
one pretty logical. There's been a lot of videos over
the last few number of years that have that have Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
I mean in something involving a species that used to
be around and it was supposedly extinct. May there may
very be well be populations out or out there. Yeah,
Fylazine is a good example. That's a great example.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
And I still think there is. You know, Max Hawthorne
tends to believe that there is some sort of super
shark out there, not megaladon, but bigger than a great
white mm hmm. Yeah, yeah, I think that's possible. All right,
you have brought some stories with you tonight.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, these are these are reports that I've received from
uh into my website from people.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Start with this one, winn A Beago owl Man. This
one of the pretty sounds awesome by just by the
title mad all right, I'll read it out for you.
In twenty ten, a late night drive through a small
town of Winnebago, Minnesota turned into a surreal encounter with
a towering owl man and a sentient green orb that

(40:15):
seemed to defy the laws of physics but has lost
hours and impossible pregnancy at UFO. Contact began to unfold
in the following years. The witness was left wonder had
she seen a messenger from another world or something even stranger.
Here's the account. On September thirtieth, so literally twenty years

(40:38):
ago or fifteen years ago, right now in Winnebago, Minnesota,
in a quiet town of twelve hundred residents, where autumn
leaves were beginning their transformation. I was driving home from
my evening ship at Parker Oaks Nursing Home when something
massive and otherworldly caught my peripheral vision in the shadowy

(41:00):
branches of an old tree. Compelled to look, I turned
my head and when I snapped my attention back to
the road ahead. There it was illuminated in the stark
beam of my headlights, stood an impossible figure, the owl man.
Towering five feet tall, this creature had a hauntingly human

(41:22):
like body crowned with an enormous owl face. What struck
me most were its arms, human like in structure, with
forearms and biceps, yet covered in feathers and without hands
visible at all. They were wings, connected directly to these

(41:43):
human like arms and biceps, yet covering in feathers okay,
forming one continuous structure. The feathers were white and the
underbelly and brown on top, just like a regular owl,
but the underlying arm structure was distinctly human. The feet
were unmistakably owl like, and the body maintained an eerily

(42:06):
human quality that made the whole encounter surreal. However, it
was the eyes that held me captive, large like an owl's,
yet unmistakably human in their intelligence. Their brown depths caught
the yellow reflection of my headlights, resembling the mesmerizing eyes
of animals that reflected the dark, not luminous but mirror

(42:27):
bright and utterly hypnotic. I slammed my brakes, coming within
four feet of this enigmatic being. The moment I hit
the brakes, it screeched a sound that defied explanations, simultaneously
avian and human, primal yet conscious, and spread its wings
wide in response, those human like arms extending into magnificent wingspans.

(42:52):
The whole scene wasn't frightening. It was profoundly weird, like
stepping into a reality that operated by entirely different rules.
Then came the moment that changed everything. It simply stared
at me with those penetrating reffrouct devies, and I found
myself locked in an otherworldly communion, gazing into those ancient

(43:12):
depths as time seemed to suspend itself around us. In
that electric silence, I felt, rather than heard, the words
I see you resonate through my very soul. I wasn't afraid.
Fear couldn't touch this moment. I was frozen in pure wonder,
caught in a trans like state, until something shifted and

(43:34):
I became unfrozen. Looking away for just a heartbeat. When
I turned back, it had vanished, and if as if
it never existed, though I glimpsed something impossibly small and swift,
disappearing into the darkness above, moving with a speed that
defied physics. Strangely calm, I continued onto Highway one sixty nine,

(43:57):
maintaining fifty five miles per hour toward towards home, when
a new impossibility emerged. A perfect sphere of green fire,
tennis ball size and blazing like a living buttane flame,
appeared outside my passenger window and began keeping pace with
my speeding vehicle with supernatural precision. This ethereal orb danced

(44:20):
with fluorescent green flames that flickered and moved like liquid light.
The more I became aware of its presence, the more
it seemed to respond to me, eventually tapering away and
descending towards a distant cowfarm, as if it knew I
was watching. When I finally reached home, my babysitter was furious.
I was two hours late, though the drive should have

(44:42):
taken fifteen minutes at most. I had no memory of
where those lost hours had gone, no awareness that time
had slipped away like water through my fingers. The next day,
I returned to search for burn marks at the cow
farm where the green orb had descended. Nothing remained, no
trace of its fiery presence, as if it had been
nothing more than a beautiful hallucination. But the strangeness was

(45:07):
only the beginning. I discovered I was pregnant despite my
boyfriend being incarcerated, an impossible conception that remains unexplained to
this day, followed by an equally mysterious miscarriage where the
baby vanished completely without requiring any medical intervention, leaving doctors

(45:27):
baffled and unable to provide a rational explanation. Then a
decade later, during another extraordinary UFO encounter, I met a
baby who communicated telepathically that it was the child from
that night, the hybrid offspring of that impossible pregnancy. Suddenly,
some of the puzzle pieces of my life began clicking

(45:48):
into place with supernatural precision. This wasn't the malevolent cornish
owl men of the nineteen seventy six legend, with glowing
red eyes and a sinister presence. This being was entirely different,
one of profound intelligence and purpose. It looked at me
with a stern recognition, communicating not through words, but through
the very essence of sight itself, the gaze penetrating straight

(46:13):
into my soul, with a message as clear as it
was mysterious, I see you. The encounter marked the beginning
of my awakening, the first conscious threat in a tapestry
of experiences that continues to unfold. The puzzle pieces are
still coming together to this day, revealing connections and synchronicities
that span years and defy conventional understanding, all stemming from

(46:38):
that impossible September night when I looked into the eyes
of something beyond our world. Nothing creepy about that there, Lon.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Well, I can kind of relate to it, uh personally,
end with the accounts that I've heard as well from
other experiences. You know about my story with the year
my wife was sick and I kept seeing and owls
and referencing owls. Mike Cleland, who has written the book

(47:16):
about his ol experiences possibly being foretelling of alien encounters,
I believe there's something to that. I think it's it's
it's some type of a precursor that they used for people,
for people to see that they are in the presence
of something other worldly. I think that's what happened to me,

(47:38):
because I had after my wife had passed away and
I stopped seeing these owls. I had my I had
my abduction just a few months later. The fact that
this woman became pregnant and the child just simply disappear

(48:00):
after she being confirmed that she was pregnant.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Is very.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Similar to a case I had in New Hampshire where
a woman had had several pregnancies that went three months
after the first trimester and the baby just disappeared. I
have talked to other investigators who have talked to about
hybrids humans and alien beings where they do meet.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
With this being years later.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
During possibly another encounter, are possible abduction. There's lost time
in this so that could have very well been an abduction.
The green orb could have very well been a being
transforming into this orb and keeping pace with her and
probably constantly watching her. So yeah, there's a lot of

(48:57):
connections there. So, I mean personally, in with other experiences
I have talked in the.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Past, there's so much going on in this story. There
really is. I mean, you got the missing time, you
have the owl, which could be an alien in disguise, because,
like you said, Mike Clellans, books always talk about these
aliens in disguise. We hear of you know, the orb

(49:27):
that was following her. I mean, what's that about? And
you know usually orbs are seen in orange or red
or white, but this one is is green, you know.
I mean that's a little bit odd. I mean there's
a lot of oddness in this. Yeah, there's a lot there.

(49:49):
But like I said, there are pieces that fit into
different scenarios that I have been a part of and
have investigated over the years. And yeah, this should be
a beautiful, beautiful account for a movie script. I could

(50:09):
see that. Yeah, I could see that. I mean she
has gone through what many people, mostly female some males,
have gone through. Regarding regarding this subject of alien abduction
and hybridization program. What's your thoughts on the hybridization program.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
I have questions about it. Why they really do it.
I think it's probably part and parcel to their objective
of finding and realizing more about us and maybe something

(50:55):
that they used to have until they evolved into what
they are now. Because Frankly, and I've talked to you
about this before, I believe the human the human species
is basically a universal species because much of what people see,
as far as what they determined to be alien beings,

(51:18):
all have a humanoid aspect to them. And I think
I do believe that these alien beings that people are
seeing and reporting and having contact with who I've had
contact with are actually evolved humans, and the cycle continues
on and they have the ability now to come back

(51:42):
to our time and to possibly find answers. I think
they're intrigued by us for a lot of reasons, and
I think they're looking for that and possibly the hybrid
hybridization of their current state and in the modern humans.

(52:04):
Maybe they believe that's ways to a means I mean
of figuring out why why they aren't us anymore? That
we do possess some things that they I think that
they believe are important. Particularly and this is this is
from experiencers who have talked to me in the past

(52:26):
and have been told this, that they are fascinated by
our psychic abilities. They are fascinated by our belief system,
and they're very fascinated by what we believe happens to
us after we pass, that we have a life force

(52:49):
that they just don't possess.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
The missing time aspect of lot of people have have
had this missing time happen. I'm thankful I never have.
Out of all the weirdness that has happened, at least
not that I know of at that I had it. Okay,
what's that like to experience that? It's surreal?

Speaker 3 (53:16):
I mean when you come back to where you originated
from and you realize you've been going in my case
about five hours, in other cases less than that hers
two hours, it's a I believe it's a fair assumption
that you're physical being, even even if it's just a

(53:44):
by location type of thing that your body stays in
one place, but your your life force, your being goes
someplace else.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I think there's something to that, and.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
I think that they do have the ability to maneuver
us around like that. And invariably these are usually abduction cases.
I'm not saying all abduction cases are physical. They may
very well be by location. But as time has gone

(54:20):
on more and more and I've had my experience and
I've talked to others, I think I think we're going
I think this is something that we may very well
find out more about as time goes on.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Right, right, well, you know what we got about thirty seconds.
I just want to know, do you have any recall
from yours? A little, A little?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
It's been what it's been ten years now, and in fact,
in November it'll be ten years. And but as time
goes on. I recall bits and more bits and pieces
of it. I have thought about regression. Honestly, seeing and
being involved in regression makes me hesitant to do it

(55:06):
because I have seen cases where people, for whatever reason,
to hold that thought.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Mon Strickler Fansomonsters dot Com, missing time and more. When
we return on spased Out Radio.

Speaker 5 (55:23):
This is based out Radio with Hopes Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
I misjudged the clock there, Lon, I'm sorry. All right,
I'm gonna put you in the green room and I'll
be right back. Okay, okay, you're right back.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
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and every night. Right here on spaced Out Radio. Lon
Strickler is here from Fantomsomonsters dot com. He joins us
once a month for a show we call Strange Days.
We love having Lawn here. Thank you for joining us again.
Lin we were talking missing time and what you felt

(01:03:08):
when it happened to you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to explain. I mean, you know
something happened, you do recollect a little bit of it,
uh more so as time goes on, but eventually you
do you do realize something major happen. You know when

(01:03:36):
I when I that day, well it happened that next
day after I came back. I called Butcher that morning
and we talked about it, and he really didn't seem
like he was surprised because of what I had been
going through with the als and stuff previous to that,

(01:04:00):
so I mean he heard it before, He's heard it
from other people as well, so yeah, he wasn't really
shocked by I had mentioned Mike Cleland. I had talked
to him twice about it. Many of the things that
I realized he had also realized when he had his encounters.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
And I've talked to people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Since then who had similar type of encounters as well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
So yeah, it's something it's hard to explain.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
But look, if it's somebody, if I had never been
involved with any type of abductions or not knowing anything
about what people had experienced, it'd have been much more
profound than it was, but it was profound enough.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Do you think you were abducted when that happened? Oh, yeah,
physically abducted. Yeah, I believe I was. And he and
you were gone for like five hours. Yeah, I was going.
Was that, I asked me? It was my five hours?
Was that overnight or was that during the day. Were
people waiting for you? No, I was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
When I When I was, I was in the I
was on the couch in the living room and I
fell asleep.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
The cat was my cat was sitting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
On my lap, and I realized in this I had
these being shut up before. But uh, these three tall
you want to call them whites or grays or whatever
they were, but they all three looked the same almost

(01:05:45):
to the tee, but there was some minor differences, but uh,
very thin, very tall, but uh, they had shut up.
They were on my right, standing by my chair, looking
down at me, and instead of them blinking off and vanishing,

(01:06:06):
I realized I was someplace else. And I estimated the
time to be around one point thirty in the morning,
and when I got back it was around a quarter
after six twenty after six in the morning, so it

(01:06:26):
was about five hours.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Oh my So.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
There were physical differences. Some of my clothes were missing.
A shirt, the outer shirt I had on was missing.
Never did find that. Uh yeah, I mean so I

(01:06:54):
think I was physically taken.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
You hear about people that have had encounters like that
where they believe they had been abducted, had lost time
and such. Don't show up totally naked sometimes but most
times they found their clothes. But no, I didn't find
that shirt. I never found that shirt. So what do

(01:07:17):
you think happened to you during that time? I don't know.
I don't remember being transported. I don't remember anything like that.
All I know is I ended up in this room
that I believe was part of a craft. These three
beings were behind me to my right standing, and they

(01:07:38):
were showing me a large monitor or TV screener, but
it was huge. It was in front of me, and
in the background you could see the stars, the planets
and such. But there were also other things showing up

(01:08:00):
historical recollections, recollections of what I had described before, possible civilizations, Uh,
in the Eastern Mediterraneans, particularly Egyptian. They were showing me
different scenarios why, I don't know, and I'm sure I
don't remember everything I saw. I remember some things, but

(01:08:22):
I don't remember everything. I'm quite sure I don't remember
everything I saw. And in fact, I've had I had
people trying to taught me into actually doing a complete
book about this, but I just don't think I have
enough to do it a book right now. Uh. But yeah,

(01:08:44):
I I don't know. I'm I'm pretty sure I was
definitely at this location physically.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
And I was communicating with these beings. They weren't talking,
but they were communicating with me through my mind. They
were speaking perfectly perfect English. When I was communicating with them,
I was literally verbalizing. I was talking and they were

(01:09:13):
answering me, so they could either hear me or they
could pick it up from me. But I did ask
a few questions.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
One thing I did ask them is when they showed
me this huge craft that landed in the area around
the now where the Nile Delta would be at. It
was further out into the Mediterranean. This huge craft, this
huge circular craft. It was miles wide.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Huge.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
They gave me the impression that it was a civilization
of other worldly beings that had come and mingled with
the other civilizations on Earth. But when I did, I
do particularly remember asking them was that Atlantis? And they

(01:10:10):
I don't know why that came to my head, but
I never got an answer, and I can't remember anything
else I had asked them. The only thing I remember
next it's just standing there watching this screen and then
ending up back home.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Okay, when you got home, how did you know you
were home? Number one? And number two? Were there any marks, scratches,
or anything on it for that left physical type evidence?

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Nothing that I noticed at that time, though at one
at one point when I was a child, I had
a scoop mark on my belly that just suddenly showed
up right near my navel. It was healed, but it
was a scoop. In fact, I still have it. I
still got the mark. How I realized I was home

(01:11:14):
was that my cat was hissing at me. He was
down on the floor hissing at me. So apparently I
just popped in somehow. He never hissed me, he just
out of blue like that. Weird, so weird.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Before we get to the next story, let's get to
a couple audience questions. Here. Josh is asking Lon, do
you think that all cryptids worldwide might only be a
handful of species that just have cultural and local names.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Well, first of all, I believe most cryptid species, other
than possibly some indigenous bigfoot or other worldly beings, I
think they have aspects to them to where they can
move in and out of either dimensions or between our
earth plane and another dimension or another reality. As time

(01:12:12):
has gone on and I've looked further and further into
the whole cryptid phenomenon, I believe that for the most part,
these beings do not exist on Earth all the time
that they move in and out. My thoughts on that
became more apparent as I got involved with the Mothman

(01:12:33):
investigation in Chicago. As time went on, I do believe
that the Mothman was a summoned being. In particular, the
point pleasant mathman be a handful of species that just
has cultural, local names, I think. I think the beings

(01:12:58):
may actually be the same that are moving in a
night out, and different groups of people have different names
for them. But I think this phenomenon has been going
on for a long long time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
All right, let's get to another question here. Let's go
to in the studio. Do you think three I Atlas.
The potential comment that is making its way here is
looking for this glimmer man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
I don't know. I don't know what to think of
this comment. Some of the aspects of it are very interesting, though.
I think NASA is really really taking a deep, deep
look into this now. From a few people I have

(01:13:49):
talked to about it and what they think it is,
I think the military is involved with this as well,
and I can't go beyond that. As far as just
hearing that. It just seems there's a lot going on
now worldwide, and maybe it's an observation of some type.

(01:14:12):
I don't know, but this thing just showed up. It
just passed Mars, or is going to pass Mars. I
heard it got hit by a bad some storm or
some type of radiation hit this thing and either slowed
it up or changed its direction. There's just a few

(01:14:34):
There's just a lot of things about it that just
don't make a whole lot of sense. It doesn't seem
to me like what a regular comment is. But some
of the indications from from what I heard is this,
if it is a common it's it's more composed of
carbon dioxide as opposed to other elements.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
So what that's all about. I don't know. All right,
let me go to another one here. Joe was asking Lon,
have you ever heard anything like ghost rats. I keep
seeing these dark rat shaped things running around my house,
or like shadows.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
I have heard something similar to that in the past
room from witnesses, but it's normally associated with shadow beings
being seen as well. Now, I had a ghost cat
at my last RESI when I was living in Maryland,
in my residence of Maryland that looked dark to me.

(01:15:45):
I mean, it showed up as a dark being, but
I did pick up that it was either the energy
of a past a cat that used to live there
at some point. But I have talked to people who
have seen something smaller that when they were going through
a shadow being infestation, so it may be connected to that.

(01:16:09):
I'm not saying that you've got shadow beings, but that's
the only time I've heard of these rats, these rat
type things being seen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
All right, let's move on to another one here. Let's
go to Erica. I saw this predator effect with a
ghost once, so perhaps it's just a cloaking mechanism.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
It could be I mean, it could be a it
could be a manifestation of an energy of spirit or something.
I just don't think it is because it's something fairly new.

(01:16:54):
It makes clicking sounds many times, just like in the
movie It's Got the Yellow Eyes. That people had mentioned
that it's similar to what happened in the movie. It just,
you know, what I had picked up from people. It
just doesn't seem to me that it was a type
of life force energy or something that came from a
living being. It seems more alien or non human to me.

(01:17:25):
I still don't understand it. I don't, I really don't.
I mean, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
I think it's some sort of alien or cryptid type
of hologram, shall we say. Maybe I don't know if
the paranormal is using it, but I mean, if people
have had those experiences with it, I mean, that's something
that I can't refute, you know, because I don't put
myself in other people's shoes, you know what I'm saying.

(01:17:53):
It's just weird. Just absolutely, it was very weird. Sir Wolf,
is at these glimmer men, are they hunting or are
they watching?

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
At this point now, it seems like they're more observing
watching as opposed to hunting or stalking. I haven't heard
of any type of situation where it seemed aggressive. It
just it seemed to be that it didn't want to
be seen, and after the person realized it realized that

(01:18:32):
the person has seen it, it moved on. So I
don't think it's hunting or stalking. I think they're just
watching for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Yeah, I wonder that as well, because what is with
that though, with a lot of these creatures bod as
creepy as they may look, they seem to be you know,
peeping toms in a way where they're looking through windows,
they're looking through claws of doors, they're they're they're hiding
behind trees to stare at you. You know, what is

(01:19:05):
it with this this looking thing?

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Yeah, I mean we get a lot of that with
a lot of different phenomena, cryptids, crawlers, even ghost It
seems to be the hallmark of of paranormal phenomena for

(01:19:29):
the most part. Are they unsure about approaching us?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
H Are they working for some other entity or some
type of overlord or something as spies or you know,
I don't know, but yeah, that that watching, that investigating
observing things seems to be a hallmark of a lot
of this phenomena.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Yeah, I don't really understand what is truly going on there.
I find it completely weird and maybe that's part of
the creep factor. I don't know, but it just seems
awfully weird. Yeah it is. Is it? Maybe because they

(01:20:18):
know it makes us uncomfortable? Maybe?

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
I think sometimes sometimes certain beings relish on that, I know,
shadow being to of course, malevolent entities seem to relish
shocking us, surprising us, making us feel bad. For the
most part, they live. They feed off of that. They

(01:20:48):
become stronger when that happens. So yeah, I think in
some situations they kind of kind of like it. They
like to see the reaction.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
All right, Well, let's go to another question, this one
from Josh again. In Celtic lore, the glamour is the
phase ability to veil themselves or their dwellings. Sources sometimes
describe it as kind of a wavering air or glimmering
haze like heat rising from the road. Are these the fae?

(01:21:28):
It could be fae, but.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
It's not normally what we get when when the entity
is possibly a faye or in elemental or something to
that effect. Many times in those situations they kind of
morph into different shapes and just suddenly vanish. That just

(01:21:55):
doesn't seem to be the aspect of these glimmer Men creatures.
And I call them creatures because I don't think they're human.
It's a good question because I've never really thought about
it with faith, but just thinking about it now, I
don't think it's associated with fab But then again, you know,

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people had described Faye beings in all different forms and such.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Maybe there's some connection to that. Sounds like there could be,
that's for sure, you know. I mean you look at
some of these especially European societies, whether it's Ireland or
England or Iceland or wherever where they are actually you know,
taking time to pay respect to a lot of these creatures,

(01:22:48):
Like they will not allow you in certain forests because
leper cons have been seen there. In Iceland, They've moved
roads out of the way because they figure there is
a a fairy den or a gnome den around that area.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Well, we start getting glimmer Man dens or glimmer Man villages,
then I guess we'll we'll tie into that at some point,
but I haven't gotten that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Yet, right, I Mean, there's there's always always a case
is we got about, you know, ninety seconds to go
here before we got to go to break here. I mean,
everything can be put in a category. Do you think
that we put too much into the fay category when
it comes to some of this? I think.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
I think in a lot of times, it's kind of
the the nomenclate, nomenclature that people use for little beings
that just don't understand or some type of phenomena that's
just not really.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Understood.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Uh, it's hard to tell, you know, when you start
getting to the whole culture of fairies, fay towards lens,
this and that. Yeah, I mean it seemed to be
clumped into one huge category. So I don't know, I really.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Don't know it is. It is a weird situation, that's
for sure. And I mean, how else do you put
it besides weird? It's weird. It's all you really can do.
My man, Lon, we got you for another thirty minutes
on spaced out Radio, and when we return from the

(01:24:33):
bottom of the hour break, we're going to get into
a story about a puckwadgie in Illinois. How weird is this?
We're going to learn about puckudgies We're going to read
this story that has come into fantomsomonsters dot com. And
if you've had any stories that you want send them
to phantomsomonsters dot com. That will be a ticket for you,

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literally to have the lawn and strict not just lawn strickler.
The lawn strickler actually do a report up of what's
going on in your weird world. That's just the way
it is. And that's what we're gonna do next on
spaced out Radio. Your listen Davey's Space Down Radio with your.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Host Dave Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
I'm just gonna open up the window a little bit here, Lon, yeah,
far getting down to near freezing temperatures overnight here, lonely

(01:26:14):
that time. All right, myss stick's walk. It's been a
while since we've had you here. Welcome Joe over on LinkedIn.
How are you, sir, Good to see you. Mm hm.
Who else do we have here? Let's see yes? Please

(01:26:40):
as a reminder, put your questions in capital letters. I
appreciate that, mish. How are you, Gary Russen? Thank you
for coming on in. Alright, my back is killing me.

(01:27:59):
I gotta got one of them cold of those like
body colds, you know, what I'm talking about, like where
everything is sore. Yeah, I want to know. I went
and had a COVID booster last Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Now, I've had many, I've had several of them before,
but man, I that's the first time I really got ill.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
I was that was down for three days.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:28:24):
I was sick of hell, and I'm still feeling the
effects of it. I mean just tiredness and body aches
and nausea and everything else.

Speaker 6 (01:28:35):
So yeah, well there's a cold that's going around my town.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
It starts off with the sniffles that will not stop,
and then it goes to a body ache. So I'm
at the body ache side. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Well, this is the first time I've been sick physically
since I had my surgery. So I don't know if
I had anything to do with it or not. I
mean as far as the way I felt. So that's
been what almost almost three years now, So I.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
Got about a minutes ago here, bud Okay. Thank you
tonight to Max, Jennifer, and Pam, as well as Luscious

(01:30:12):
Jules renewing her membership on our YouTube channel and Mystic
Journeys becoming a member on our channel as well. Thank
you very very much. Got a couple more questions from
the audience as well. We're going to get into a
story with the lawn Strickler, Legend Hunter Extraordinaire, lawn Strickler,

(01:30:37):
the Beard of Knowledge. Lawn Strickler. You can hit me
at any time, buddy, You're three thousand miles away. I
can't hit nothing. We're into the second half of spaced

(01:31:07):
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You can put your report there. Read other reports of
strangeness that's going along anywhere in the world, and you
can find any of the books there because he's a
damn good writer as well. Vun welcome back, my pleasure
to be here, Dave Hey. Before we move on, what
has been the reaction from the Fantoms and Monsters people

(01:32:12):
about Flight twenty one?

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Been good? It's been good. I mean people are interested
in it. Yeah, absolutely, I've gotten a couple of responses
from it. They you know, they some people have their theories,
but I think they're kind of stumped about what's going
on there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
All crazy talk in there, man, crazy talk. We got
to get back out there. I'm going out there tomorrow
to pick up the trail cams, so I don't know
if I will be going out alone or not. Most
likely we'll check it out out. I will be creep
I will be creeped out going there alone if I

(01:32:56):
have to. But we'll see how it goes. But yeah,
I'm curious to see if we caught anything on the
trail camps. It's been a couple of weeks since we've
been able to get up there, that's for sure. I'm
glad on that. All right, let's get into Puck Wedgies.
Before we get into the story, tell everybody what a

(01:33:17):
puck wedgie is.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Well, the traditional puck wedgie is a small humanoid being
a lot of people describe as looking like what a
chupa cobra would look like, or a gremlin. That's I mean,
that's how it's described size wise and everything else. And

(01:33:41):
in this story in Illinois they said it looked like
the gremlin from the Gremlin movies. So it's mostly associated
with the Bridgewater Triangle area in Massachusetts. It's part of
the traditional lore of the native people who had lived

(01:34:03):
there at some point, though I don't think they used
that word puckwodgy. I really don't know where that name
came from. But yeah, it's a being, and there are
still sightings of these things. So it's a swampy area
in the middle of the Bridgewar Triangle area, and Bridgewar
Triangle Area is an area that comprises a couple of

(01:34:27):
state parks.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
It's a pretty huge area.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
There's been a lot of weird things have going on there,
even bigfoot sightings and a few other things, but the
puck wudgy is probably the one thing that's well known
for the Bridgewater Triangle.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
All right, Well, let's get to this story here because
this is a good one, all right. Summer of twenty eleven,
while playing outside, our family dog chased a creature through
the yard and to the woods. The humanoid was bipedal,
approximately three feet tall, gremlin like in appearance, with large ears, ugly,

(01:35:09):
extremely fast, and unlike any known life form. Lot Are
you sure this wasn't my former mother in law just
saying all right. We observed the creature running for about
one hundred and fifty feet until it reached the tree line,
giving us a clear, prolonged view. Both my sister and
I vividly recall the encounter, which remains unexplained to this day.

(01:35:33):
Discovery of the term puckwodgee. In twenty twenty three, while
working as a pawnbroker in ames, Iowa, a regular customer
described the creature he had seen using the term puckwodgy.
His description matched exactly what I saw as a child,
prompting me to research the folklore and confirm that this

(01:35:53):
is likely what we encountered. You know, she says, I'm
an experience or party says, I'm an experience outdoorsman with
interest in hunting, fishing, boating, and metal detecting and am
also a former Boy Scout. I have spent thousands of
hours observing wildlife and nature, which has given me confidence

(01:36:14):
that we saw what we saw and it was not
any known animal, whether healthy or not. My sister independently
corroborates the sighting, and then the area has significant Native
American history, including burial grounds and artifacts along the Fox River.
Folklore suggests puck wedgies may act as guardians of burial grounds,

(01:36:35):
which aligns with our location. While traditionally reported on the
East Coast, the sighting suggests the Great Lakes region may
also host them. This is a singular, vivid, and unexplained encounter.
Neither witness has seen anything like it. Again, the creature's
appearance and behavior were beyond bizarre and cannot be explained

(01:36:56):
by conventional biology. I am confident in the veracity of
this account, you say. I am willing to answer any
follow up questions, provide any additional details, or even take
a light to test detector tests to see if it's
needed to verify by honesty. Now, you said Lon after
speaking with this person personally, you noted that the North

(01:37:18):
Barrington region has a history of unusual cryptid sightings and
unexplained phenomena. This includes reports of winged humanoids that fit
into the broader wave of the encounters in the Chicago
Land area. The possibility that different cryptid forms overlap in
these areas makes the report particularly valuable for JS and

(01:37:39):
his sister. The encounter was singular, a vivid brush with
the unknown that has never repeated itself for researchers. A
growing body of evidence suggests the pug quadgy like beings
may not be confined to New England, but could also
be found in the Great Lakes. What did the children
truly see that day? A guardian spirit of an old
burial around a flesh of blood type cryptid or something

(01:38:02):
in between. What do you think, Laud? I don't know
what they saw. I do know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
When he sent this to me and said North Barrington,
a light bulb went off in my head because I
had witnesses, and I think the year was twenty nineteen.
North Barrington is west of northwest of Chicago, and it's

(01:38:35):
an area where we had a lot of small wing
humanoid sightings literally not flying, but these things running across
roads and stuff. And I thought, well, maybe this is
Even though it's been a few years before that maybe
this was tied into it. So it kind of raised
my radar a bit. Hopefully by me putting us out,

(01:39:00):
we're going to get some other sightings come in. But
it did happen in an area where we had quite
a few wing humanoid sightings and these small things running
across the roads.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
You know, in talking to Pat Spain just the other night,
it really sounds like the description of an orange pendict,
like a North American version of it. Yeah, it might.
I don't really get it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
I don't know, you know, you know, a lot of
this phenomenon does seem to cross over to different regions
and countries and areas.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
I don't know. I don't know what they saw, but.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
I mean, again, is this an interdimensional being coming from
another reality?

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
Who knows? Who knows?

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
But I just found it very interesting since I was
familiar with the area and some of the signings we
had had there as well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
You mentioned the Bridgewater Triangle. Tell people who may not
be familiar with that what it's about.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Well, it's it's a triangle area. It's an area that's
defined with you know, as being triangular size. It's quite large,
it's got like I said, it's got a couple of
state parks in the midst of it. It runs from
southern Massachusetts at near fall Full River north up into

(01:40:38):
Bridgewater and another parts of areas in western Massachusetts. But
there's been a lot of activity reported there over the years,
and in fact, there was a there was a film
made about the Bridgewater Triangle years ago. I did the interview.
I forget who who the who the producers were, but
if you look for it, I think it's actually up prime.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
But it's an interesting it's an interesting film.

Speaker 7 (01:41:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
There was also a book done about as well. But
there's been a lot of stuff has going on there, uh,
even alien encounters. It's just been a lot of different
phenomena that has happened within that triangle area. So I
don't know, you know it, It's just it's just one

(01:41:27):
of those spots where a lot of things happened.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
Let's get to another short story here on the puckwage
or potential maybe something different, all right. Emaciated pale winged
humanoid seen in Monson, Massachusetts. While exploring off road trails
in Monson, two friends stumbled upon a skeletal, pale skin

(01:41:53):
humanoid that unfurled massive wings and launched into the tree tops.
Was this towering a misidentified creature or a chilling glimpse
of something otherworldly that hides along New England's back roads. Hi.
This encounter took place on August twenty six, twenty twenty five,

(01:42:14):
so just last month. I was driving around nine to
forty pm with a friend of mine in my jeep well,
which I used for off roading. We were exploring Palmer
and Monson, trying to figure out some trails to check out.
At one point, we ended up on a road we
thought would lead us to a trail, but it turned
out to be a dead end. I pulled into a
driveway to turn around and check my phone from map directions.

(01:42:38):
While I was parked, my friend noticed something that initially
appeared to be hunched over a tree. When they glanced
away to look at me, they caught sight of whatever
it was moving and standing up straight. They looked back
and saw it moving unusually around. My friend shouted for
us to get the hell out of there. Just as

(01:42:58):
I was preparing to put my jeep in reverse, I
looked up and saw it too. That's when I realized
it had wings. It flew up into a tree as
if it had been startled. It appeared to be about
eight feet tall, a wingspan was at least six feet,
possibly longer. It had pale human like skin and looked
very emaciated and skeletal. Oh my, nothing creepy about that.

(01:43:22):
There a lot. Yeah, that's that sounds a lot like
what people are seeing in Chicago. But for the most part,
it's a little bit larger and it's pale as opposed
to being a dark colored being. Now they didn't mention
anybody any eyes or anything or anything lighting up. But
you know, these wing humanoid sightings happened in a lot

(01:43:45):
of places, I mean, especially in North America. We've had
sightings continue on with this phenomenon. So yeah, Massachusetts this time,
and I'm looking into this so I might have more
than next time. I'm going with you, but I have

(01:44:06):
put feelers out to see if anybody else has seen it,
and I got a map of the area, so it
seems to be a pretty desolate area as well, so
we'll see what comes up. I would agree, I would agree.
I mean this thing sounds like like I was gonna say,
almost like like a mothman type creature.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
Mm hmm, yeah, uh, like I said, the wing humanoids
come in all shaped sizes and colors and characteristics, and yeah,
maybe there's you know, maybe this is another area where
they have seen it at.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
Let's get to some audience questions again. Let's go to Erica.
I saw this predator effect with a ghost we asked. Sorry,
I apologize about that. I forgot to erase though. So
let's go to Blue Cruise. Do you remember a Fantoms
and Monsters blog regarding a tall, lean, bipedal feline humanoid

(01:45:06):
with a Japanese mask face that runs at an incredible speed,
faster than a car, the sasquatch and dogmen.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Maybe it must have been a while back, because I
don't particularly remember that. Would it happened to have been
in Florida?

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
That's not like something that was that I had heard
about in Florida. I've got a couple of bipedal feedline
humanoid sightings throughout Florida, So maybe maybe it's what you
were talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:45:45):
Maybe maybe, All right, let's go to the next question.
Let's go to Jules. There are so many commonalities with
all aspects of the paradormal. Could they just be different
types of beings? Using the same kind of technology to
traverse the veil between worlds.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Oh yeah, they could be coming from the same place.
Who knows. You know, there may be different iterations of
the same thing, you know. For the most part, Yeah,
I mean, like I said, my theory is that a
lot of these beings are interdimensional or from another realm,

(01:46:29):
and that they have the ability to move pro poorly
in you know, from one place to the other. Now
do they look different when they get here or vice versa?
I have no idea, but I find it interesting for
the most part that when people do see these things

(01:46:53):
that their perception is very similar to others. So maybe
they are maybe they aren't morphing or showing up in
a different form when they get here, or maybe they
you know, maybe they all look the same.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
Who knows. All right, let's uh, let's continue on here.
Let's go over to Jose here. Is there any evidence
where cryptids have used some form of technology or are
they just flesh and blood creatures that happen to have
special abilities? Yeah, I think they have.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
I think they had paranormal supernatural aspects to them. For
the most part, I think in general has nothing to
do with technology or something that was created by them
or created by something. I don't know that, but I'm
just saying I think in their natural state that they
have an ability to do things that creatures on our

(01:47:54):
airthplane don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Well, I think too, if I could add to that,
if you don't mind, Loan, I think that there is
it's a combination of both where they have these special
supernatural type abilities, but they're also flesh and blood as well. Yeah.
I think we try and put them in one category
or another in order to try and define what it is,

(01:48:22):
because the flesh and blotters will sit there and say,
this is you know, this is just another creature that
follows the timeline of evolution, whereas the WU people will say, well,
you know, these things seem to be able to pop
in and out as we speak, you know, at their

(01:48:43):
own volition. I think it's a combination of both. It
could be. It could very well be. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
And you know, as time has gone on, and you
know this, the the folks that believe in the flesh
and blood theory as opposed to the supernatural theory, their
assumptions and their theories are becoming more and more like
each other. There's a lot of people now that absolutely

(01:49:15):
would not say that a bigfoot. I mean at years
ago that it was anything supernatural about it. But now
as time has gone on, has been no bodies, nothing
else has showed up, just the same old you know,
the same old thing. Many of them are starting to
think a little deeper about it, and they're coming to

(01:49:36):
a realization that there's something different about these beans that
we just don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Mh. I would absolutely agree with you. We got about
five minutes to go here, lot, let's go to j
What do you think of these three foot tall puck
wedgy darrow dwarfs who suddenly come out of a granite
rock portals that attack to attack hitchhikers. Come on, guys,
let's let's dial it back on the on the wou

(01:50:05):
here a little bit. But what do you think about
these three foot tall puck wedgies? Are they evil? Are
they good? Are they surprise attacking people to maim their faces?
You know? Are they are they wanting to you know,
steal one sock from your foot so that way you
have a mismatched pair.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
Now, I've heard a lot of different stories about these
type of creatures up the bridgewater Triangle. They're supposedly benevolent,
benevolent or have evil intentions, And I've heard other stories,
in particular around Cooperstown, New York. There's a there's a

(01:50:41):
certain trail up there where people swear that the rocks
open up and these things come out, uh more dwarf
like than like a puck wedgie. But they're supposedly very benevolent.
But you know, other areas have all kinds of different
stories or lore that involving little beings.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
So take it as you wish. Do you think that
you know they have control of their atmosphere? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
Maybe to degree, yeah, I think it's possible, but I
I don't necessarily buy into that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
All right, let's go to another question here, this one
from jose Ore. Puck wedgies then the same as the
South and Central American pomberos.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
If you're talking about something that's that's closely related to duende.
Now these are different, These are more remulin like things.
I don't know what a pombero is. I don't know
which which countries you're speaking of, because they got a
lot of different names from a lot of different things
in the Hispanic America, but uh, if it's something similar

(01:52:06):
to a doin, if you're referring to something similar to
a due day, I don't think. No, it's something different.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
Well. According to this, as a forest dweller, the pombero
is said to be able to imitate the sounds of
various forest creatures. Most specifically, it is believed that that
the pombero can imitate birds song, especially those of a
nocturnal variety, and as such is viewed as something of

(01:52:36):
a protector of the birds. Yeah, I mean, I don't
I don't see a connection. I thought we had one there.
H How does it all tie together in your opinion,

(01:53:00):
I don't know. First you got to determine it if
it's true or not. It's just fiction, just lore or
something in between. There might be connections in some of
these cases, but I think overall, maybe it's just the
same thing in different varieties in different areas. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
But you know, certain areas seem to have a lot
of different iterations of these small beings. In North America,
Central and South America. I all have different aspects of
different names and monikers and qualities.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see if this
ever ties together. Lon Strickler, we have you for about
another minute or so, according to the clock that seems
to be running down in front of me. You know.
But I just want to say a big thank you
once again for coming on Spaced Out Radio again. Do
us a favor. Tell everybody where they could find your information.

(01:54:06):
Just go to Fansomonsters dot com. You can.

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
It's a new website now, it is rebuilt. You can
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(01:54:30):
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Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Lon. It's always a pleasure to have you here on
the show, my man. That's why you're one of the best.
I can say that and truly mean it. I love you, buddy,
Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (01:54:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Dave. Coming up next, schwab Dweller. Then the UFO Wizard
returns with the UFO Report. We'll be right back you're
listening to spaced Out Radio with your host Dave Scott.

(01:55:21):
Thanks buddy, appreciate you. I will let you know what's
going on. Okay, okay, sounds good. Take care all right, brother,
take care, Lon Strickler, everybody, Phantom Sponsors dot Com. I'll
be right back.

Speaker 8 (01:56:04):
US USA.

Speaker 9 (01:58:14):
USA, about two minutes left.

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Let's bring in the Wizard. It's happening, Wizard. Your MIC's
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Speaker 7 (02:00:09):
You didn't get to hear me praise you and your
great show. I'll say it again, it was a great
show tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
Man, Thanks buddy, Thanks buddy.

Speaker 7 (02:00:17):
Always always like whenever Lon's on, He's just a wealth
of them for me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Lawn's the man. Lon is the man. I'll tell you
when he stepped up when uh Butch Wakowski passed away
a couple of years ago, it was a blessing for us.

(02:00:42):
I mean, Butch was damn good. But Lon just continued
the tradition. It was amazing. Contrary one, how you doing, Jeff,
Steve Garvey is here. He'll hit a home run for you.

(02:01:06):
All right. We got about forty seconds. Thank you tonight.

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Speaker 4 (02:03:00):
Hello and welcomed a spaced out Radios swamp. I'm swamp dweller,
and tonight I'm going to take you on a mystic
journey of the Uno, sharing tales of monsters, legends, and nightmaps.

Speaker 11 (02:03:13):
Welcome to the space Stout Radio Swamp.

Speaker 4 (02:03:15):
When I was younger, somewhere around twenty years old, I'm
now thirty two, I worked in an assisted living home
in rural Minnesota.

Speaker 11 (02:03:24):
I enjoyed the job helping the elderly.

Speaker 4 (02:03:26):
Once I discovered that I really enjoyed the job, I
planned to honestly further my career in nursing. I worked
overnights in the assisted living building as it fits well.

Speaker 11 (02:03:36):
With my college schedule.

Speaker 4 (02:03:38):
I was one of the only younger people on the
night shift, working alongside people in their mid thirties and up.
I learned a lot from these people, heard scary stories
of their experiences, and made some friends. I still have
one night though While working there, I was scheduled on
the third floor with about fifteen residents. I'd gotten to
know most of them and was relatively close to a few.

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One lady, who we will call Judy, was my absolute favorite.
She was a sweetheart and we would spend hours talking
when she would be awake at night unable to fall asleep.
Judy was somewhere in her eighties and in pretty good shape.
This particular night, Judy rang me to her room to
receive help fixing her TV. After tightening the cables on

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the back of her TV, we sat and talked for
about twenty minutes or so. She told me how she
planned to walk to the nearby park in the morning,
something she did every morning. She'd walk to the park
with a bread bag, sit on the benches beside the water,
and feed the geese. After talking, I told her I
had to go do my rounds and that i'd see
her the next night. We said our goodbyes and I

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was leaving her room. She said, Alicia, you're a good kid.
I smiled and went to do my rounds. A few
hours later, my coworkers and I decided to go outside
and have a smoke somewhere around four thirty am. We
sat outside in the cold forty degree weather and smoked
and chit chatted. As we sat there, we noticed an
older lady walking down the side walk away from the building.

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I thought she looked familiar, and I realized who it
was when I saw the bag of.

Speaker 11 (02:05:08):
Bread she was carrying.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
That's pretty early for Judy, don't you think, my coworker said,
And I guess, so, I replied. We laughed, think continued smoking.
Then our pages started buzzing and we rushed inside. When
we met the coworker who paged us, they had a
distinct sad look. They hugged me for about thirty seconds.
The whole time I was confused. This coworker knew my family,

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so I worried something might have happened.

Speaker 11 (02:05:34):
Confused as ever, I followed them to the elevator and
up to the third floor. My heart fell.

Speaker 4 (02:05:39):
As they led me to Judy's room, I heard sirens
in the background and knew this wasn't good. To my shock,
it was Judy lying lifeless in her bed. My coworkers
and I glanced at each other, astonished. I felt the
mixture of sadness and confusing, haven't we I swear, I
swear to god, we had just seen Judy walking toward
the park. I knew wasn't crazy because my coworker sar too.

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We never really brought it up again. As scary as
it was, I just decided that Judy was probably doing
the things she loved the most that night before she passed,
walking to the park to feed the geese.

Speaker 1 (02:06:14):
Thank you swamp Dweller for another creepy story. If you
want more just like that, head on over to his
YouTube channel swamp Dweller hit subscribe, ring that bell and
you get thousands of stories for free. Just like that,
It's time for the Wizard.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
Say if you.

Speaker 7 (02:06:36):
Boys and makes as.

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Fast A big fan of that, big fan Josh Rutledge

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the UFO Wizard.

Speaker 7 (02:06:59):
How you doing, buddy, I'm doing fantastic, man, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
Were you testing and note the summoning this past weekend?

Speaker 4 (02:07:09):
I was.

Speaker 7 (02:07:13):
I went out and did just a little bit of
So you know, we've got the UAP dog Whistle that
came out a few weeks maybe even a couple of
months ago now, and I started wondering if, like, maybe
it's not about playing it for the beans or craft,

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but maybe it's about like playing it for yourself as
like a mechanism to open your mind or you know,
go into a trance or something. So I actually created
my own version of the UAP dog whistle that uses
to the five point thirty two and the four twenty
eight to make a by narrow beat, and I went
out and messed with that a little bit. And I

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don't I don't think I had any sightings, but I
definitely had some really interesting experience. It's some just amazing
dreams that night as well. So I really I really think,
you know, just kind of like Lawn was talking about before,
like there's a consciousness element to all of this stuff.
And I think the more that we really buckle down

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and explore that consciousness element, that's really what it's going
to start opening up our awareness to potentially solving this mystery.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
I would agree with you on that.

Speaker 4 (02:08:29):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:08:29):
There's a lot of weird, high strangeness going on out there,
and you know, I also wonder how much is tied
to your mind. I mean, you know, Lawn was talking
about a little bit about you know, missing time and
people having almost like a telepathic communication with things that
are going on. It kind of makes you wonder whether
we really truly know what is happening.

Speaker 7 (02:08:53):
Yeah, well you know the whole. Like, I've been really
on a kick lately about thinking about reality and when
you realize that, like your brain what you actually like
when you go to take a step, when you're walking,
when you're walking along and you're taking your steps, your
brain is processing your future potential steps. It's it's evaluating

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all the things in your feel of view, and it's
determining what is the best course of action that it
needs to make. And all this is happening before you
actually lift up your lift up your foot to take
that next step. So your brain really lives in the future,
and then you experience reality almost in the past. So
it's just a really like is there really even such

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thing as the present? Or is it really just the
future and the past? And then when you think about
time in general, you know, the one thing that I've
gotten a lot of is time is not linear, that
it's all happening simultaneously in some realm and so doesn't matter.
It's the future of the past. I'm really going down

(02:10:04):
like a quantum entanglement route. You know, decisions that you
make now, do they somehow affect your past. I don't know,
it just it's all mind blowing stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:10:16):
So it really is, and you know, that's all part
of the mystery of what we try to do and
what we want to solve, and what we want to
know is the expansion of the mind and the power
of it.

Speaker 7 (02:10:27):
Yeah, I mean, I really like, I really feel like,
and I've voiced this before, but I really feel like
that you have experiences because it is a mechanism to
force you into thinking about your reality differently. That there's
not really like I feel like that in trying to

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solve the mystery, I will eventually get to the point
when I realize that the mystery to be solved was
that my elf and how I interact with reality that's
the ultimate mystery to be solved. That all this other
stuff is just a mechanism to lead me on a
path to reach that ultimate destination to understand how I

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interact with reality.

Speaker 1 (02:11:17):
I love it. I love it, buddy. What do you
got from the UNFO report tonight?

Speaker 7 (02:11:20):
Yeah, so actually I've got that's a little light. To
be perfectly honest, I've got two things. I've got James Lakski,
which if you've read Skin Walkers Have the Pentagon. He
collabed with George Knapp and some others on that book.

(02:11:45):
He is, you know, he's a former US Defense Intelligence
Agency scientist. He was a program manager who ran the
OFFSAPP program Advanced Aerospace Weapons Just to Applications program. And
so those the Skinwalkers at the Pentagon was you know,

(02:12:05):
basically them laying out how the twenty seventeen Times article
got some of it wrong. And you know when it
when the Times article said that the funding was procured
for a tip, it was actually procured for asap and
an a tip came afterwards. So it's a really good book,
Skinwalkers at the Pentagon. If you haven't read it, I

(02:12:26):
highly recommend it. It really talks about the big database that
was created with Bigelow and other people to house all
of this information. Move on at the time actually contributed
what they had in the form of their database to
go into this big database. I really wish that, you know,
other people could get access to it, but I understand

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Robert Bigelow is probably keeping that pretty close to his chest.
But James Lukaski has a new book out. It released
two days ago September twenty seventh, and I haven't read
all of the book. I've started on it, but I've
got some highlights that I found various other people who

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have read the book, and so I wanted to point
those out. But James Lukaski, the I think the gist
of his new book is really talking about how much
consciousness comes into plays into the experience, and how much
the paranormal and UFO experiences are linked. So it's it's

(02:13:35):
going to be a really interesting book, I think as
I finish it. But some of the kind of initial
information that he's shared or insights that he shared, for example,
is that the pilots that experienced a lot of the
like tik Tak experience, they experienced paranormal effects. Kenneth Arnold

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apparently had orbs in his home and other paranormal experiences
after his nineteen forty seven sidy I was not aware
of that consciousness, paranormal phenomena, and psychic effects are closely
related to UAP and cannot be dismissed. The relationship is unavoidable.
That's a quote from the book. He talks about how

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ASAPP was really like the real X files that they
had seventy five plus contractor personnel doing exotic aerospace research.
They had several hundred part time field investigators, a multimillion
dollar database since the database I spoke about just a
few minutes ago store with contract research data. They had

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thirty eight Defense intelligence reference documents produced for the DIA,
over one hundred separate high quality reports submitted in just
over two years, and eleven databases delivered to the I A.
So that's all in that, you know, Robert Bigelow database

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that's talked about in Skinwalker's at the Pentagon.

Speaker 1 (02:15:10):
I find what let us interrupt you here for a
quick second. I don't think we pay enough attention to
the role Robert Bigelow has played. Oh yeah, for people
who may not know who Robert Bigelow is, explain who
he is.

Speaker 7 (02:15:27):
I mean, he's a he's a I would call him
an aerospace mogul.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
He is.

Speaker 7 (02:15:33):
He got a huge aerospace company called Bigelow Aerospace. I
think that's what it's called Brigelow Industries. But he he was.
So a lot of people are probably familiar with Skinwalker
Ranch currently owned by Brandon Fugel, but it used to
be owned by Robert Bigelow, and that's who did a

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lot of the investigation on the ranch before he ultimately
sold it to Brandon Fugel, and then Brandon Fugle got
involved with the History Channel and they started a TV show.
So Robert Bigelow, like you said, I mean, he's he's
got an interest in aerospace, but he also has he
has a firm enough interest in the experiences they had

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at Skinwalker Ranch to invest a lot of his time
and money into the continued research into the topic.

Speaker 1 (02:16:32):
And he also self funded himself. Yeah, yeah, he's self funded.

Speaker 7 (02:16:37):
I mean, it's he I mean it like just just
the Robert Bigelow's story. I think should probably be a documentary,
not even about the UAP topic. I mean, if they
want to cover it in the in the documentary, that'd
be great too. But I think it's it's just a
really interesting and it really is a testament to, you know,

(02:16:58):
kind of that American dream of if you work hard
enough and you want it hard enough, you can make
it happen.

Speaker 1 (02:17:09):
Here's one of the things about Robert Bigelow that I
think needs to happen, because he is a gentleman in
his late seventies or maybe even early eighties. Now, they
need to get him to testify. If you're going to
be getting serious about congressional hearings, he has to be

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one of the ones who testifies. His name, which a
lot of people won't even realize, is when he was
serious about his program, Bigelow Aero Advanced Aerospace Space Systems
otherwise known as BASS. If you had a UFO report
as a pilot, whether you were a private pilot or

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a commercial pilot, it was in the FAA guideline books
to report it to BASS and when you add it
up to For a while there, Bigelow was buying up
UFO reporting sites. He bought up a number of them

(02:18:14):
around the world, and he was paying I know, one
person north of me, he paid a believe between one
hundred hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the website. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:18:30):
I mean, it's like I said, he's he's got a
really strong interest in the topic. And I think that
he's also one of those people that probably because of
his position and his money, that he is open. He
doesn't really care that much about, you know, bad press

(02:18:55):
having an interest in a topic. But the fact that
he you know, for the last what ten fifteen years
or so, you know, maybe twenty years that he is,
you know, publicly that we know about been involved in
the topic, and he still continues to stay you know, involved,

(02:19:18):
looped in, whatever the phrase it that you want to use,
and it still continues to invest his own money into
research on the topic.

Speaker 1 (02:19:27):
You know.

Speaker 7 (02:19:27):
I don't even wonder if, you know, if Bass was
a recipient of any of the exotic materials that may
have been retrieved in these crash retrievals that keep getting
talked about, and that may be, you know, part of
his interest in staying involved. I don't know, that's speculation.

(02:19:47):
I don't have anything to support that, but given his
involvement with AWSAP that program and working with Harry Reid
and all those folks, makes you wonder if maybe he
does have any of that material.

Speaker 1 (02:20:05):
I bet you he does, because we talk about how
we have so many of these these private companies that
is hiding or holding on to exotic technologies allegedly. I
think Bigelow at least at one point had them. Who

(02:20:26):
knows if he still has them now, but it is
something that needs to be investigated.

Speaker 7 (02:20:33):
Yeah, I mean, I to echo what you just said
a few minutes ago, I fully agree and In fact,
when we talked about I think one of the times
I was on a few weeks ago, we were talking
about who would you want to have on a panel,
and you had voiced big Low, and I think, you know,
Bigelow would make a really good panel member. That the

(02:20:55):
I think the problem we would run into, or maybe
Bige would run in to, is that he is a GC,
you know, so a contractor, so he he doesn't have
the same protections. I think that most of the Whistleblower
Act is mainly geared towards government employees, so he wouldn't
have the same protections that the Whistleblower Act currently has,

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So he would have to step on eggshells to try
to give answers to questions. That doesn't put him or
his company in a weird position. But yeah, I think
it would be really good to have him as a panelist.

Speaker 1 (02:21:34):
I would agree, I would agree with three minutes to go,
if you could ask Robert Bigelow anything, what would you
ask him?

Speaker 7 (02:21:41):
Can I have access to the database you compiled? I
mean I would I would want. I mean I am
scraping together data as it is, you know, pulling reports
where I can get them from around the web. I'm
trying to build out my own you know, trying to

(02:22:03):
build my data set to support my own kind of theories,
the things that I'm presenting on at Phoenix MoveOn in
like ten days. So I would just yeah, I would.
I would love to have access to the database. Now,
I guess the catch would be, you know, he might say, yeah,
you can have access to the database, but you can
never talk about it. Yeah, So if that was the case,

(02:22:25):
I don't even know if I would want access. If
I knew I could never tell anybody about anything that
I find there.

Speaker 1 (02:22:32):
What about you, Dave, I would want to see what
he had show us the toys because remember, for a
while there, you know, this is you know, before Brandon,
maybe just after Brandon Fugel bought Skinwalker Ranch Bass Big
Lower Aerospace was literally starting to put videos out of

(02:22:54):
orbs and real high strangeness that were happening at their facility,
and it was alleged that this was being caused by
maybe some secret materials allegedly that were stored in the facility.

Speaker 7 (02:23:13):
Yeah, I mean, I don't It makes you wonder too,
because how much of it is how much of it
is the material causing the issue versus the awareness of
the observer. You know, my friend, my friend Stefan makes

(02:23:34):
a good analogy. He says, you know, if you're going
to go all of a sudden, you want to you
want to buy a car, right, Let's say you want
to buy a jeep wrangler. And so because you're looking
at geep wranglers online and you're researching them, now everywhere
you go you see jeep wranglers. So it's kind of
the same thing. If you have opened your awareness to
the possibility of orbs or other paranormal type experiences, does

(02:23:58):
that increase your possible ability of having those experiences? And
maybe it has nothing to do with the technology in
your possession, but just your own awareness is open to
those possibilities. And so now you see the things that
previously were happening anyway, but you just ignored them or

(02:24:19):
even your mind just shut them out because they were
noise in the atmosphere and the environment.

Speaker 1 (02:24:27):
I think there might be something to that, my man,
I really do. I mean, look, we know that the
phenomena seems to attract to people and it will continually
bring things around. If you accept that it's real, maybe
that's the road it is. Maybe it's just a big
mind meld that people like you, me and other people

(02:24:50):
interested in these topics have to go through. We'll find
out more on the UFO Report with the Wizard when
we return. This is spaced out radio and your host's
nae stuff. All right, we're clear cool Cuckoo could chew.

Speaker 7 (02:25:35):
I'm going camping this coming weekend with some folks at
Phoenix Move on. Nice, like thirty or forty people. So
that'll be a fun time. Taking my daughter with me.
She never she's eleven, she's never been camping before.

Speaker 1 (02:25:50):
Nice. Good for you, Good for you. That'll be fun.

Speaker 7 (02:26:01):
She's like I said, she she's never been camping before.
I'm gonna take the tent, but I also have a
backup of the air mattress that I use in my tent.
Is has like cutouts for will well and actually fit
in the back of my jeep Grand Cherokee. So that's
the backup. Is like, if she can't do tent camping,
I'll just put the mattress in the back.

Speaker 1 (02:26:22):
Of the jeep and we'll just sleep in there. So
so you need yep, that's so you need. That'll be
fun for you, guys. She's looking forward to it.

Speaker 7 (02:26:38):
She is. She was like she today, She was like,
why can't the camping trip be today? And I was like,
because I have to work, and plus nobody would be there.
We would just be up there by ourselves for four days,
so which is not a bad thing, you know, But
my my main concern is that she gets bored easily,
and so I'm worried, worried that you know, she's gonna
get bored to sit around the campfire or you know,

(02:27:02):
we're gonna go hiking and stuff. But I'm just worried
she's gonna get bored. So I told her to make
sure and like bring a book and some coloring stuff,
stuff to draw or whatever, so she does get bored,
she has something to do, so it'd be good for
I told her. I was like, maybe, like, because we're

(02:27:22):
gonna be around some pine trees, maybe find some pine
cones and some berries and stuff and like arrange it
in such a way and then draw that. You know,
maybe it'll give you something to do.

Speaker 1 (02:27:33):
So that's awesome.

Speaker 7 (02:27:39):
My other daughter, though, who's also eleven, because I have twins,
she is like polar opposite. Her idea of camping is
staying at a hotel that doesn't have a hair dryer.
So I don't think I'll ever get her out camping.
Maybe if I get a camper, you know, she might
be able to swing that. But ye, a little bit
of glamping for hurry. Yeah, same thing with my wife,

(02:28:02):
Like that's some way I'm going to ever get those
two out as a glamper. So that's all right. Yeah,
I mean everybody has their own thing, you know. I mean,
I can't sleep on the ground anymore. I'm past that age,
so I feeling Yeah, I could do an air mattress
on the ground, but that's about it.

Speaker 1 (02:28:24):
I know that feeling. My man, we got about two minutes. Okay,

(02:28:48):
all right, post show everybody, I'm gonna be logging off
a little bit early here right after the show. I
am not feeling well, so I'm going to My body
is just so sore right now. I was struggling to
sit m and I know I'm tired when I start

(02:29:14):
rubbing my head and I've been rubbing my head all night.

Speaker 7 (02:29:18):
Oh yeah, Usually mine is like if I keep taking
my glasses off and like rubbing my eyes, that's how
I usually know.

Speaker 1 (02:29:25):
I'm like, you know, I had a real stressful day today,
sorry to hear that. Yeah, yeah, about fifty seconds. Do

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you ever have a guest host the odd time? But
they've got to be able to do what we do,
and the only one that can do that is Rob Yeah. Yeah.
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Here we go, spy what Joe Monk said, Here we

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(02:32:00):
hanging on out. It is the calm before the storm
in the UFO world, Josh, and right now, boys, it
ever calm?

Speaker 7 (02:32:08):
Yeah, I I really it is. Uh, it seems like
the like we have these you know ebbs and flows
right of information flow and stuff that's happening, but it
just seems like after the latest UAP hearing, Uh, it
just dropped off like there was like no additional like

(02:32:30):
you know, when we had the when we had the
the Jake Barber stuff, when he you know, when he
came out, like it was like bam, bam, bam, all
kinds of like his people were involved and they were
doing interviews and like it was just a lot of
stuff that was happening over the course of like a
week to two weeks, like NonStop things, and then the

(02:32:50):
next hearing and so on and so forth. But it's
like we're in a lull. And I don't know if
it's just because you know, kind of the state of
the world and all the other stuff going on, and
nobody wants to talk about it, and there's more pressing
things to talk about. I don't know, but yeah, it
definitely feels like we are at We're in a valley. Uh,

(02:33:11):
and I'm waiting for the next peak. So what do
you think the next step is going to be? What
are you hearing? You know?

Speaker 1 (02:33:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:33:21):
I mean, everybody keeps I mean, obviously the question that
everybody keeps asking is is like disclosure right around the corner,
you know. I think everybody's kind of waiting also to
see what happens with three Eye at List stuff. My
next next topic even for the night, was talking about,
you know, the new paper that Abby just wrote relating

(02:33:43):
the three Eye at List stuff to the WOW signal
of the nineteen seventy. So I think maybe people are
waiting to see what that's going to be. But uh,
you know, like I've said before, the whole topic of
quote unquote disclosed ure is kind of ambiguous, like we
don't really know, we haven't defined what disclosure looks like,

(02:34:06):
and so it's hard to say when we get there
if we don't know what we're expecting. A green even
as a community what disclosure will be. So, you know,
I think it's because of the you know, it's just
the topic is ambiguous, the coverage is hit or miss,

(02:34:28):
and because we're basically you know, you've heard the twenty
four hour news cycle. We're basically like a twenty four
minute news cycle these days. And so if it's not
like huge bombshell stuff where you know, they invite all
the press to a hangar on some air force base
and pull the top off of you know, the sport
model that you know Lazar talked about and everybody gets

(02:34:51):
to take pictures and pose for the camera. Like, unless
that happens, I don't think it's gonna stick around on
the news media that long. In order to to reach
all the non uh you know, non experienced people or
people who aren't actively already in the community, Like everybody
who's in this chat tonight on the show, they're not

(02:35:12):
the people to be reached. It's everybody else who just
pretty much ignores the topic and go on, you know,
this goes on about their daily life. It's how do
we reach those people and get them thinking about these possibilities.

Speaker 1 (02:35:26):
See, and that right there is I believe hits the
nail on the head. They don't they being the people
who are trying to get this out, They don't care
about you or I. They don't care about our, our
type of audience because the majority of our type of
audience is already believers. They're already knowers, and maybe they've
had their own personal disclosure. They're trying to talk to

(02:35:49):
the other ninety eight percenters that are out there who
either A don't believe, B don't want to believe, C
are too afraid to believe or see or deep hard
me have their phones buried too far in their faces,
okay to even understand that there is a collision course
with a major phenomena that's out there.

Speaker 7 (02:36:12):
Yeah, I mean, like we've been saying it, you know,
for I guess a few years now that there's no
longer there's no longer a question of our UFO is real. Right,
that's been solved. It's why are they here? You know,
what are they if they're a craft? Who is piloting them?

Speaker 1 (02:36:31):
Et cetera.

Speaker 3 (02:36:32):
Like.

Speaker 7 (02:36:33):
But I think a lot of the you know, like
you said, the ninety eight percent, maybe of that ninety
eight percent, eighty percent are still in the in the
you know, group of UFOs are nothing. They're tenfoil hat
people you know, sitting outside or in their closet or whatever,
like they're they're not even willing to entertain the truth

(02:36:54):
that I mean, if you want to consider that a
partial disclosure. The fact that the government has admitted that
UFOs are real, that you know, not not UFOs in
the in the in the conspect, in the you know,
or other in the construct of like you know, alien
and alien piloted craft, because if they're alien pilot craft,
they can't be UFOs. If we know they're alien pilot crafts,

(02:37:17):
they're not unknown, therefore they can't be UFOs. But the
fact that the government has said two percent of the
reports that they've invested that they've received so far are
still unknown, that it's a phenomena or it's something that
they do not have an explanation for, that's significant.

Speaker 1 (02:37:37):
I think it is very significant. You know, there's still
a big battle going on though my friend, on what
they're going to do in trying to get this story
to people. And the problem is when you try and
push it controlled narrative, it's either so blase that people
do not want to hear it, or it's too unbelievable

(02:37:57):
that they don't want to hear it.

Speaker 7 (02:37:59):
But I think there's a there's a different approach. So
instead of looking to the media or the government or
you know, governments of the world even to be the
ones to bring that eighty percent or ninety eight percent,
whichever number you will look at around, maybe it's all
of us. Maybe it's the matter of the fact that

(02:38:22):
the taboo that's been around this topic for so long
is finally being lifted to the point where you can
talk to your co workers and you can show them
the videos that you have on your phone and the
pictures that you have on your phone, or you can
link them to books or documentaries, or even the New
York Times article from twenty seventeen and then the later

(02:38:42):
one twenty eighteen where they claimed those videos as their own.
You know, it's I think it has to be a
grassroots movement. It has to be all of us in
the community. Let's say that there are two million people
in the community. If every single person in the commuting
community talk to three friends who are not in the community,
it would spread like wildfire. And we have to we

(02:39:06):
have to realize that we're finally in a place where
it's no longer taboo to talk about this stuff and
break out of our shelves, come out of our homes
and talk to people around us. It's one of the
things that we don't do a lot of anymore given
social media, is just talk to people, you know. But
if we did that and we actually you know, it's

(02:39:29):
hard to work into a conversation sometimes, but you know,
if we just worked it in or you know, wow,
I had this crazy experience when I was a kid,
blah blah blah. Everybody that I've talked to about my
experiences or the fact that I just investigate UFOs for
move on. Even if I just lead with that. Every
single person I've talked to at my job, random people

(02:39:50):
that I, you know, talk to at the gas station
or something and that, or just standing there pumping gas
and they see a sticker on my truck, every single
one of them express their own experiences or someone close
to them who had their own experiences. People are chomping
at the bit to talk about it, and we in

(02:40:11):
the community are strategically placed to be able to do so. Sorry,
I'm off on soapbox now.

Speaker 1 (02:40:17):
No, No, I think it's a good soapbox. Keep going, man,
you're emotional about it, and that's a good thing.

Speaker 7 (02:40:25):
Yeah, I mean, I just so, that's what I think
we need to do. We have as humans. We have
one of our major follies, if you will, as a species,
is that we wait for someone else to fix our problems. Right,
whether it be if you're religious and spiritual, you're waiting

(02:40:48):
for you know, God or Jesus or Buddha or somebody
else to come along and fix our problems. If you're
new ag, you're waiting for the aliens to do it.
But we created our problems and we have to solve them.
And so boiling it down to the UFO topic, we
can't wait for the government of the world, the governments

(02:41:10):
of the world to spread the word that these things
are real and they're worth investigating. And that experience that
you had when you were twelve that you have never
been able to explain up until this point probably happened.
And you're not alone, Like we have to. We have

(02:41:30):
to take the reins and we have to do it ourselves.
Haven't we been doing that already though we have, But
like you know, your show is fantastic. You have some
fantastic guests guests on, but the people who tune in
are already in the community. How do you reach new people?

(02:41:54):
You know, and I know that you know, as a
show host, that's probably one of hear marketing things that
you're always thinking about, right, is howbody reaching new people?
But even outside of the show, you know, UFO and
related podcasts have grown significantly over the last five years.
You know, when my friend Stephanie and I when we
started our podcast, they were like maybe five thousand additional

(02:42:21):
podcast on the topic operating around the world, and now
I would say this is probably post to fifty thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:42:29):
You know, at any point.

Speaker 7 (02:42:30):
In time, there's like eight point one million podcasts out there,
so the podcast space is saturated, but there's more people
talking about this topic. But I think the way you
reach those people is you go on you know, you
contact your local TV station in October. Maybe you say, hey,

(02:42:50):
you're going are you all going to do a segment
in October, you know, because it's like the spooky season
or whatever. Yeah, we're gonna talk about well I investigate UFOs,
or I investigate ghosts or hauntings or Poultergeist or Bigfoot
or whatever, would you ever be interested in having me
on to talk about some cases that have investigated. That's

(02:43:12):
how you reach the people who have not considered the topic.
I think it's just people of tinfoil hat sitting in
their closet. So I don't know, I'm like, I'm preaching now.

Speaker 1 (02:43:25):
No, but that that tinfoil hat type of attitude comes
from people who are you know, claiming to be skeptic,
claiming to say, where's the proof. I mean, that's the
famous line, where's the proof? Where's the evidence?

Speaker 4 (02:43:42):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:43:43):
I mean you look at you look at politics, okay,
I mean you have all these names being thrown at
political people, you know. And I could go off on
this because this really pisses me off to be we.

Speaker 7 (02:44:00):
Got twelve minutes day, you know, to get you rowled
up here.

Speaker 1 (02:44:04):
Well, well, no, I mean it's it's the same thing
is you know, you have a lot of people throwing
around a lot of keywords insults these days when ninety
nine percent of the people have no idea what a
Nazi is, They have no idea what an anti sem
idea is, or a fascist or any of these keywords

(02:44:25):
that are being thrown around like pound cake these days.
They have no clue. They have no clue of the
history of the words, They have no clue of anything,
but they hear their their type of group throwing those
words around it. I don't care if you're right or left.
It's being used on both sides. Okay, the UFO world

(02:44:47):
is the same way. The cryptid world is the same way,
where the people who don't believe or only see this
subject through you know, thick glasses where they have tunnel
vision on them. Yeah, they use different types of keywords
like that. Maybe not those same ones obviously, but you know,

(02:45:09):
where's the proof, where's the evidence you're a liar? You
know you didn't work where you said you work. They're
doing all this headline grasping instead of full investigation on
what we are seeing. So yeah, you know, and I've
had it happen to me. I've been on radio shows.

(02:45:30):
I was on a radio show recently where I was
talking about pterodactyls pretty much got hung up on you know. Okay, guys,
it sounds like somebody's had too much Jack Daniels and
we're going to break right. That's insultive to me, Yeah, right,

(02:45:50):
but that's what we go through as experiences of this
realm right, Well.

Speaker 7 (02:45:55):
Because everybody has their bridge too far, right, everybody has
that topic or whatever that either a they are not
comfortable talking about or b they think their listeners are
not comfortable talking about and they think they're gonna lose
listenership by talking about it. But the fact of the
matter is people love I mean even if you even

(02:46:20):
if you treat it like this, people love.

Speaker 1 (02:46:21):
A train wreck right absolutely?

Speaker 7 (02:46:23):
How many how many people rubber neck when they see
a cop has pulled over somebody, they want to see,
like what's going on? Like, So, if you go on
a show and you talk about sasquatch or pterodactyls or
you know, disembodied voices that you caught as a part
of a ghost honting thing, people are.

Speaker 1 (02:46:43):
Going to listen.

Speaker 7 (02:46:44):
They're gonna listen. They might even draw the conclusion that
you're crazy, but they're still going to listen to the
words that you're saying. And what my argument is that
it only takes one or two people to leave that
interview thinking maybe, and when they think maybe, it's like
something flips up here in their brain and now, all

(02:47:05):
of a sudden, the phenomena sees them, and it starts
sending them their own stuff to wake them up.

Speaker 1 (02:47:14):
Mh.

Speaker 7 (02:47:15):
And now you reach enough people and it will spread
like a wildfire.

Speaker 1 (02:47:22):
Do you hope?

Speaker 7 (02:47:24):
I mean, I've seen it. I've seen it over the
last ten to fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (02:47:30):
There's a lot of dumb and narcissism out there, though,
my friend.

Speaker 7 (02:47:35):
There is there's also Unfortunately, there's also a lot of
people who could talk to you for hours about UFOs
being time traveling humans from the future, but can't entertain
the possibility that they're interdimensional beings. There are too many
people in the community who are closed off to consider

(02:47:59):
all possibilities. You can't think that paranormal in UFO sightings
could be related.

Speaker 1 (02:48:08):
Well, if you use a good example in the cryptid world,
the BFRO, the Bigfoot Research Organization, they put out annual
statistics of their sightings and reports and everything, and if
you really looked into those reports, they're skewed. They're not
true because they've eliminated or edited reports. And this is

(02:48:32):
from first hand information. They have edited or or eliminated
first hand reports because there was WU involved. Yeah, where
a person, say, had a sasquatch encounter and then minutes
later there was a UFO flying over, or they had

(02:48:53):
a sasquatch encounter with paranormal activity at the exact same time.
And because they're trying to play the fake role of science,
not saying that science is fake, but in this case
it is, they're skewing their numbers to benefit what benefits them, right.

Speaker 7 (02:49:14):
And that's and that's the in my opinion, that's the
downfall of the phenomena in everybody who investigates all of it,
do do do do? Is that they don't They don't
consider all data, right, They only consider the data that
supports their position. Absolutely in doing so, they're missing the picture.

(02:49:40):
Like I used to when I first started doing channeling stuff,
one of the questions or one of the statements I
kept getting back over and over and over again is
you're asking the wrong questions.

Speaker 1 (02:49:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (02:49:52):
And I think that's where we are. We're asking the
wrong questions.

Speaker 1 (02:49:57):
Could very well be, could very well be, and you know,
but it just goes to show though that you know,
in today's headline society, in today's social media society, though,
you have to really watch what you're seeing and what
and who you're getting and garnering information from So let
me ask you this question. Has social media platforms, whether

(02:50:22):
it's YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok x, you name it, has
it benefited the UFO, cryptid and paranormal world outside let
me let me put a caveat on that. Outside of
a place to place evidence.

Speaker 7 (02:50:47):
I would say no, Oh, well, I don't know. I
would say yes, but instead of has and so, I
think it's given connection point for people who have had
experiences to find other people who have had experiences. It's basically,

(02:51:08):
if you think about it, in a lot of ways,
it's like a massive, you know, support group online for
experiences of all of all the aspects of the phenomenon
to meet up and share their experiences and receive the
ultimate support of you are not alone. So in that way,

(02:51:30):
I think it's benefited the people who were in the community.
But do I think it's benefited the spread of information
to the quote unquote uninitiated for the purposes of initiating them,

(02:51:50):
Not to the greatest extent that I would hope. So
I think it's probably reached some people, but I don't
think it's reached as many people as I would have
hoped it would. My friend I think the only way
the uninitiated become the initiated is by having their own experiences.

Speaker 1 (02:52:10):
I think that is the realist answer of it all.
Fifteen seconds. Tell everybody where they can find your podcast.

Speaker 7 (02:52:18):
Our Mystic journeys dot com. Oh you are Mystic journeys
dot com. Everything is linked there. You can email me.
I'll do readings for you, Taro, psychic intuitive, all that
kind of stuff, podcast everything.

Speaker 1 (02:52:32):
That's why we call them the Wizard.

Speaker 7 (02:52:33):
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