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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week
covering the twenty eighteen movie The Predator.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to spacing Now.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm BB and I'm Jason, and we are discussing the
Predator franchise. One entry at the time spoiler free. We
do reserve the right to have a spoiler section at
the end of the podcast in case you want to
discuss any feature entries in this series. But we are
building up to the release of Predator Badlands, which I
believe comes out on November seventh, and so our episode
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will come out a couple weeks later, I believe. And
if you are listening to this on the Spacing Out
with Predator podcast channel, I invite you to check out
our main channel, Spacing Out with BB and Jason. We've
covered a bunch of other shows on there, and movies
and such, so lots more to explore. And at the
time of this recordings, all the Predator movies are available
on Hulu. I think Who's going to Go Away sometime six,
(01:00):
so it'll probably be on Disney at that point, and
if you're not in the US, it's probably on Disney already.
In this film, when a young boy accidentally triggers the
universe's most lethal hunters returned to Earth. Only a ragpad
crew of ex soldiers and a disgruntled scientist can prevent
the end of the human race.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Vibe check. Did we like the movie overall? How does
it stand the test of time?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
All right, kick us off with the vibe check.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It was pretty good. Interesting, a lot of mental health
talk mental health at before for this one, which was interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, weird in that regard. I watched this movie like
three years ago or something. I think we just watched
Pray recently, so I was like, oh, i'd liked Preditors.
Maybe they had finally figured out this movie franchise and
gave this a watch, and I remember not caring much
for it. On this watch, I found it pretty exciting
(01:57):
the whole way through, So I know, it's not like
a well received movie.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh really, No.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And the depiction of autism has been criticized a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I can see that, so like.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's something that like I won't stand up for really.
But for the most part, like it's kind of action
packed and it moves really fast and there's not a
lot of downtime in the movie.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, I kind of had a hard time liking the
main character though, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, that's fair, but I don't know for me, Like
it's not not great, but I think it's better than
its reputation.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Trivia time, let's hear a little information about the Predator.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So this was The Predator, which originally premiered on September fourteenth,
twenty eighteen, written by Fred Decker and Shane Black, and
directed by Shane Black and Shane Black is known as
a writer for films such as Lethal Weapon one and two,
The Long Kiss, good Night, Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang, Iron
Man three, some of those he also directed, and he
also played the role of Hawkins in the original Predator film.
(03:00):
He was the guy with glasses that told a lot
of dirty jokes.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Arnold Schwarzenegger declined to reprise his role as Dutch due
to being a small cameo. I feel like that's every
film we compan in this franchise are like we tried
to get Arnold. He said no, yeah for some reason
or another, and the CEO Del Toro was originally signed
on for the lead role, but he left through the
scheduling issues. Edward James almost had a role in the
film as a military general. Those scenes were cut from
(03:26):
the final film.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Boo booo, don't it make my brown eyes blue? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Jake Busey was cast as Sean Keyes, the son of
Peter Keyes, who's a character portrayed by his father Gary Busey.
And Predator too, and there are a number of attempts
to tie this back into Alien Versus Predator, so Francois
Yip has a brief non speaking role after previously playing
Miss Utani and Aliens Versus Predator Requiem. I don't actually
(03:56):
remember seeing her in the movie, but as she was
there and a stunt woman portrayed Ellen Ripley in one
alternate ending and an adult Newt in a second alternate ending.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
New it was, I remember new Okay, well Newt in
the in the in the Predator franchise. Yeah, because they're
trying to tie any land.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
They were going to tie it back in, but I
guess they didn't go that route, crapped all of that.
The lab in which The Predator is held contains display
cases containing artifacts from previous Predator films, including masks, a
spear on shoulder blaster. The climax of the film was
rewritten and reshot in July of twenty eighteen, following four
test screenings. I don't know what they mean by the climax,
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because it was like a long sequence. They redid that
whole thing. A short film titled The Predator Holiday Special
was included on the whole media release, in which Santa
Claus and his elves and reindeer encounter a predator at
a north pole. That's dumb. The film gross one hundred
and sixty point five million against the budget of eighty
eight million. Critical reception was poor. It's currently sitting at
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thirty four percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Russ criticism went towards
the plot, calling the film messy and convoluted, as well
as the tonal inconsistencies. The depiction of autism was heavily criticized.
And there's also the behind the scenes controversy where apparently
the director casted a friend of his who was a
registered felony sex offender and in the role he was
(05:23):
repeatedly trying to flirt with Olivia Munn's character, and she
discovered this after filming and was able to get the
studio to remove the scene, thank god. Yeah, and then
there's a bunch of reporting I guess about about the issue,
and then like which male cast members were standing up
for who waited till public pressure arose to speak out?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So all that this is before me too too. Yeah,
so that's really intense.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And while the original intention was a set up a trilogy,
the torch was in passed to Dan Tracktenberg, who developed
the prequel movie Pray.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Not some guy who's going to hire his fucking predator
ass friend. Geez. He's like, oh, well, I'm making a
movie called Predator. Let me get a fucking sexual predator
in this, bitch.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
See, I wonder why that guy came to mind.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Jeez, deep space dive. Let's break down some of our
thoughts on the movie. You can share your thoughts with
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comments on an upcoming episode.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Damn, now, I do hate this movie, like the whole thing.
It ruins the whole thing. The autism was already likes
sus because they obviously didn't hire anybody to consult. They
were just like, I don't know, make him WEIRDO make
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him be bullied and make him be sensitive to loud
noises and just awkward. And this kid he missed the mark.
For some of this, and obviously he's going to if
there's nobody doing training to show you what a real
autistic person's real reaction would be to being overstimulated. And
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you don't go from being overstimulated to then performing like,
you know, the top chess champion, like elite things. It's
it's very difficult to come off of, like being stressed out.
I couldn't imagine any kid, like little kid going from
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like freaking the fuck out over a fire alarm to
casually putting together a bunch of chess pieces as the
fire alarm is still going.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, And I was like, the like, the overall driving
idea of this movie is like autism is actually like
a superpower.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No, autism is the next step in the evolutionary timeline.
I can bite that, Like, I can understand you having
like an extra chromozoone or an extra DNA strand or
some bullshit is going to make you better human. Maybe
not for society because society isn't ready to accept autistic people,
(08:07):
but I could see how that would be evolutionarily maybe
where we're moving towards. Who knows. I can't speak to
that because I'm not a fucking scientist. But it's weird
that there was only one autistic person in the whole film.
And let's talk about the other representations of mental illness,
like played by combat vets who were in a bus.
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You know, they evaluated the main character because he saw something,
and they were like, well, we need to scrub that,
we need to get rid of all the evidence. And
the easiest way to get rid of evidence is to,
you know, label him mentally unstable and mentally ill. And
(08:52):
I didn't know. I didn't know that the military had
their own military mental facilities, because goddamn if I don't
see a lot of military ex military members on the
fucking streets suffering from mental illness.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, that seemed like far fetched.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
How come? How why were these guys so special that
they didn't just get booted out of the army, you know,
with a dishonorable discharge and let them fend for themselves
on the street. So it's very interesting to imagine a
world where the military is going to take care of
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its mentally ill military members with PTSD turetts and delusions
of grandeur. I don't know what their diagnosises were. And
how come the turets went away when he held a gun.
What kind of psychological or mental block is that?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Did he develop turettes after he was removed from service?
I don't know. And then like what was Key's big
mental illness? He's funny.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, he doesn't say anything. I'm just looking at like
the character lists just as a marine veteran, he teams
up with them, the pype of predators. Yeah, Nettles was
the helicopter pilot, the religious guy. They said, he's suffered
a traumatic brain injury.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So then it's very weird, very cherry picking of like
different like diagnosies in the in the Book of of
Mental Illness. And like you can tell they didn't have
a professional to say, oh, well, actually he would do
this or that, or he would be very like that.
(10:44):
But it just sucked like that, Like I didn't like
that they wouldn't. And like one thing that really bothered
me was nobody picked this little boy up from school
and he was home alone for god knows how.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Long Yeah, before mom got home, so in the.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And and for a child with autism, that could be detrimental.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, and even when his mom was home, like he
was in the basemin by himself.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, no supervision no supervision. And even in the classroom
when they had a fucking fire alarm, was nobody doing
a headcount trying to make sure that all the children
were out.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
There's no adult supervising club.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
No, there was no adults taking care of that child
until it was convenient to the plot. What the fuck?
And then again, a little autistic boy going out on
Halloween by.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Himself, Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Knowing that he has bullies, knowing that he has issues
with sensory and God knows that Halloween is full of
fucking sensory issues. You don't think he's gonna get upset
because there's fucking police or or some other sirens or
some other like scary Halloween like things. Mom didn't even
(11:58):
know what he looked like when he to say there's
a missing person, there's a missing child. She didn't even
know which costume he left with. What kind of parents
are these?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, Like, it doesn't even matter that he's autistic, Like
he's too young to be like that unsupervised to just
leave the house on Halloween.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
When you see like ten, eleven, twelve, even then, that's
still a little kid. He looked little, So I that
was the hardest pill for me to swallow to have
like a child on the spectrum so unsupervised at every
moment in his life, in school, at home, and even leisure.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I didn't like that. And like, I don't know. I've
known people who have autistic kids and they literally stop working,
They literally stop going to their day to day jobs
to take care of their autistic children.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
If that's what's needed. So h, I'm home from work.
Did you make dinner?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That's crazy? And she didn't have any dinner ready, she
didn't have any snacks for him, Like, I don't know.
I have a problem with this part of the movie.
I really do. Like she's a single mom, and I
understand maybe she doesn't have the support system to maybe
take care of a child with special needs. But you
find it if you really, if you need it, you
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will look for it. No babysitter, nobody to be home
with him alone. He's home alone. That was crazy. And
then what if the mailman was a creep? What if
the mailman was like, oh, let me show you something else.
Because he interacts with adults that aren't his parents or
his teachers, and that's when the danger can come I mean,
I'm not saying that parents and teachers can't be responsible
(13:44):
for harming children, but they're supposed to be trusted adults,
but them. That was the craziest part for me. That
whole part the movie itself was interesting, but that that
was a hard pill for me to swallow. Knowing families
take care of children with disabilities, that care and that
support is so needed and critical for the child's wellbeing.
(14:09):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Literally, Yeah, So I know it's weird, Like I'm not
I don't feel qualified to like speak about the representation
of autism.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, I don't either, Like I really don't, because there's like,
like you know, autism is a spectrum, and there are
some kids who are able to function fully within their
like peers in society without ever and like part of
that is like a masking thing where they learn to
(14:38):
adapt and they learn to like take the social cues
and kind of push through and kind of be what
is quote unquote perceived to be normal. But I mean,
there is no normal, and there are some kids who
the spectrum is so on the other side. They're nonverbal,
(14:59):
they don't they don't do things for themselves, they can't
bathe themselves. They can't use the restroom, so it's very difficult.
And I wish they would have talked about the spectrum
because a lot of people to this day, literally right now,
are saying that autism is a genetic defect and that
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it should be eradicated and we should we should find
a cure. And I'm sure a lot of people believe
that some of these children should have never been born,
which is eugenics. And so it's very interesting that and
I'm sure that's kind of something that they were tapping
into in this show or in this movie, because society
(15:44):
sees autistic people and children as less than or lower
in the evolutionary chain, and so they flip the script right,
they're saying, no, this is the next step. They're advanced,
they're better than not us. And I kind of like that.
I think it's still flawed. I think we need to
(16:05):
just like accept that we're all part of the evolutionary chain,
and you know, the genetic mutations that happen is just
random and not caused by something specific that you can do.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And that's the thing. Like it's a complicated, nuanced conversation,
and this is not like a nuanced movie like, Hey,
we're going to pitch the idea that you know, autism
is the next step so much that the predator wants
their DNA.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Man, they could have just gone to any special school,
Like there's literal schools full of kids with autism. They
could have cherry picked.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
But it's also like it wants this kid specifically because
it could like interpret their language, something that you know,
scholars had not been able to do. But the whole
time they always go back to, like they mentioned at
least twice, so like autism next step in the evolutionary chain.
So it's like, is it this kid specifically or are
you trying to make a broader statement right right?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I don't know, it's a it is this movie, I
would say it was very ham fisted with its portrayal
of disabilities or people with different abilities. And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I I just like the the action in this one,
Like I didn't want too much of a story about
the next step.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
In evolution and all this shit, Like I was kind
of interested in their genetic like transmutation of like building
a new predator with all the DNA of other predators.
That's very interesting. Yeah, And then like did they ever
explain why that one predator had human DNA.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
No, well, I mean kind of. They basically said that
they're incorporating the DNA of different species to try to
make the Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
This guy was a prototype. So then the big guy
was like, oh, well, let's add all of them. So
why did it progress so aggressively And why did the
guy with the human DNA want to help the humans?
Is it because he feels more human?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I mean, we don't get any nuance on that.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I'm telling you. They they could have, like leed just
let's just be a bust full of military renegades and
not specifically psych word patients, because I think that psych
word thing was somebody trying to be like nuanced and
woo woo, you know, and trying to be like, oh, well,
(18:38):
you know, they're people too, but they don't portray any
real symptomatic like versions of a person with like any
sort of mental illness. So what that guy says, oh,
you know, God willing or you know, Jesus is coming
or whatever, And girl, do you know how many Americans
(19:01):
right now believe that the rapture was coming And they're
not classified as fucking mentally ill. They're just normal Americans.
And then the guy with tourettes was his turets was
just comedic relief. Yeah, and that's not That's not what
Tourette's is. Tourette's is like a horrible condition that is
uncontrollable and inconvenient for a lot of people. Like they
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try to be they try to have a normal life,
and they they have a tick, they have like an
uncontrollable reaction. And this guy like to say, a full
sentence as your tick as your tourettes. That's wild, bro.
I don't know, And I just I'm curious about the
sex offender that flirted with Olivia Mun's character, whether or
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not they were on the bus too, or if they
were where they were positioned.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well, it sounds like they deleted the scene like very
late in the process, so I'm thinking maybe it was
like in the lab or something, uh huh, or they
could just drop that. It's just one scene too, so
it couldn't have been someone on the bus really. Yeah.
So yeah, but the action was fun.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
The action was really fun. There was a lot of explosions.
There was a lot of CGI that I enjoyed, even
though usually I don't like CGI. I really like the
shield element where that guy's legs got chopped off, and
I was like, he could still live a healthy life.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, if he lands, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
That was the thing. I was like, if he lands, okay,
he's gonna live. He's not gonna have legs. But that
would have been really cool if he would have lived,
and then we would have had another layer of like
disability visibility in the show. You know that I would
have really appreciated. But they had a murder all in.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The very beginning. When the two presators are chasing each other,
they like ripped through space. I didn't know that was
a thing in this world.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, they have like a hyperdrive, but that's how they
rip through space.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And then when our main character, he don't know his name.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
The blonde guy you had a horrible blonde eye job.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
McKenna, when he gets in that little town and mails
that package and then it arrives at the house, I'm like, wow,
that guy packed it really well. Okay, so he took
it to FedEx or something.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Let's talk. Let's talk about the representation of Mexico in film.
The representation, the vision of Mexico is always this dirt
road town with dilapidated buildings. That bar did it even
have a door? No? I don't think it did. You
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just go into the bar and you ask for service
and you show your gun, and how convenient, Like what
a great ad placement for Don Julio. That was so disgusting, dude,
I hated. I'm like, oh my god, how much did
Don Julio pay to be part of this? Because I
know for sure they don't drink no goddamn Don Julio
(22:09):
in Mexico. Okay, that's the shit you drink in America.
So either this is a border town or you know,
it's a fake, fictitious version of Mexico. And yeah, like
giving that guy your stuff and threatening him with violence,
how do you know he's not just gonna throw it away?
But yeah, he packed it really nice and he even
(22:31):
got bubble wrap. And I'm like, in that fake ass
town in Mexico, where is he gonna get bubble rap?
I'm surprised that they didn't just put straw in that motherfucker. Right.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, well you didn't see it. But just down the
street further there's a big mega mall with all the resources.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
There's a there's a Kinko's. Yeah, there are Kinkos in
Mexico though, so I just wish they would have portrayed
it more like realistic. But it's kind of like the
you know when they put that CPA filter in in
like oh an hour in Mexico. Here's the filter. It's
a little dirty. Everything's a little blurry.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It's a little yellow here.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And everybody speaks English and understands English and knows your
address and how to mail things internationally. How convenient. I
really wish it did go to the PO box because
imagine if like the Predator goes to the post office.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I mean, this movie supplot only works. It's like
this kid is always on supervise and that peo box
is full.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah no, And like the thing is, if your PO
box is full, they'll hold it at the desk. They're
not going to mail it to your house. You have
a peeo box for a reason. Some most of the time,
it's because the mailman doesn't deliver to your address. You're
not in their mail route, and so you have to
have a peeo box or you don't want things to
be delivered to your address because of THEFT. I wonder
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if if he got insurance for the package. That's what
they always ask you, if you want to ensure your package.
I wonder if he got insurance for his Predator package.
And the mom is so stupid, She's like, oh, I
thought it was a video game, ma'am. Do you know
what video games look like? Y to not even examine
or go through everything that your son has to say,
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my son is playing a video game, but I don't
know what it looks like. We're in the era of
grand theft auto. How do you know your son's not
driving around like Sam Pedro or whatever and beating up hookers.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's weird that she said that too, because like the
kid took the package downstairs, opened hisself and was doing
all that when she wasn't around. Yeah, are they implying that,
like another point, she was down there with him, or
that she actually see the mask or if you saw
him like he's doing stuff. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's just weird, man, Like that mom and that kid,
the relationship is weird, and like the mom is the
primary parent, right, and the kid had no problem just
leaving going away with dad. That's crazy to me, Like
even like even kids who aren't on the spectrum have
a hard time leaving their primary parent, so like by Mom.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Deuces and we never like return to the Mom character
once the plot's done with her.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
No, they call her on the phone or they tell
He's like, oh you have your own desk, Wait till
I tell mom, buddy.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
That's how Mom gets So. I think she was waiting
for the day that the military took away her son
so she can finally not have to come home from
work and see a little kid.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I like the stuff at the lab. I liked seeing
them like trying to examine the predator. You kind of
know what's going to wake up at some point. That's
how movies work. And I like that Olivia Munn's character
called them out that predator was the wrong word for
this creature.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was funny, Like, yeah, predator
kills to survive, whereas a bass proman is doing it
for sport, So that is really funny.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And the predator passes up killing her when she's naked.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I think her representation of that, like the way that
her body and her face like portrayed the vulnerability that
you would have felt, was really really good, Like I
really appreciated her acting in that moment because I feel
like that would have been very difficult to be nude
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in front of this huge alien creature that is literally
named for its killing abilities. And then like the way
that she reacted afterwards, where she was crying and upset,
I was like, that is really good. That is really
great acting and direction in that one moment. If that
was even a direction, I don't know. I'm still kind
(26:58):
of reeling from the direct there's decision to put that
woman in danger.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
What else there was? There's a lot of cgi regarding
the predator, like sometimes it wasn't an actual person in
a suit. Yeah, it was not favorable, Like we've come
so used to seeing it.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
As a physical form.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, and the creature design and all the costuming and
makeup and everything. I like that we brought in the
dogs from Predators, and I guess there's a little bit
of that, like feud between the big ones and the
small ones.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
For the predators.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we still don't know what it's about
or anything.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's a blood feud. Obviously one of them has more
and better DNA than the other, and only the strong
shell survive.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
And somewhere hidden in the mess of this movie is
like a message about climate change.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Did I miss that?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, because there's oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
They're saying that they're freaking up the DNA before the
time ends, before a clock runs out, I remember.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Now, Yeah, and that they're they're to move into this
planet because it's going to be nice and warm for them,
because they like it warm except when they're fighting at
the South Pole or something.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, well they can always move to Guatemala or Mexico
or some of those equator places. But yeah, that was
they did sneak that in and nobody paid attention and
they just moved on from it, like oh well, let's
just keep going instead of like let's recycle now, and
(28:27):
we're still this.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Is important, but not as important as you know, dealing
with autism and the future of human evolution. Then near
the end, when I don't know what his character is,
will trigger the government agent guy when they at the
end were they're first boarding the alien ship, he puts
on sunglasses outside at nighttime and then he takes it
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and then they walk into the ship and then he
takes them off. I don't understand what that was about.
He's like, I gotta look cool. For my entrance.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I think that's exactly what it was, Jason, like that
they trusted, that they trusted a ten year old to
get them into this alien spaceship. And then instead of
sending in like some like like field researchers or like
somebody like initial to make contact, they that he decides
(29:17):
to go in himself, because what if there was another
one just waiting chilling? Yeah, what if there's a booby
trap inside the spaceship? That's so dumb, it's kind of
it reminded me of like Indiana Jones were like, no,
you gotta let the Nazis go first. We gotta let
a couple of dumb Nazis go in first, so we
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know where the booby traps are.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And then when the presator is flying the ship and
the three of them have climbed on top of it
and the shields comes on and all the ship must
have traveled like miles and miles before it eventually crashes.
But then when they crashes, like olivium on is right there? Yeah,
like did it circle around back to where it came from?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah? Totally totally. And she had she found the pearl
to make herself invisible too. Yeah, and she knew exactly
how to work that thing without any instruction, So maybe
she's a little autistic too.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Also, they got pooped out.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Huh they got pooped out? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh what else they said? They get to the choppers
line that was a little on the nose. Yeah, well cringe,
I guess forced.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I like they had a news chopper. That was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, they described the predator as alien. WHOOPI Goldberg.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
That was a good description.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Okay, anything else, so you want to move on?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I'm done. Yeah, I don't care. This movie is fine.
It's like whatever.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm you know, I'm glad we're through it. Yeah, because
next we get to do pray yes, and then the
upcoming ones also appear to be have good reviews.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Astro queen. Who was the stand out character in the film.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I'm going to give it to the autistic kid, Mac
Miller or whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
His name was. He was Rory McKenna.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, for dealing with all those normans. Although no, maybe
I'll give it to Olivia Mom.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's who I was thinking, because he.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Sucked at acting no offense, but he was just a
little boy. Yeah, I'm going to give it to Olivia Mom.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
I think too, and her name was Casey Brackett.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
What a weird name name or after some hardware.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I like that. She wanted to get sampled all the time.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, she's like, hold on, let me get a sample.
I need to study this. And then she had a
where did she get it? Was that microscope for that? Like, uh,
that's the microscope right, like the little thing she had
one just like with her? Was that in her backpack
the whole time? Because that backpack looked empty.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
She probably cares it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
All right, Well, two awards headed her way, and I
think that will wrap it up. I don't think we
need to do a spoiler for Prey.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, if you've seen it, you know. If you haven't
seen it, you're gonna find out. Come watch it with us.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
We can thank this movie for allowing them to correct course.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah for real shit.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So yeah, that's the next movie will be Prey, and
that will be followed by the animated movie Killer of
Killers and then Predator. Batman's so thank you for spacing
out with us. And what was A Lynn's movie?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Jason. He kills people, so you can be a mailman.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That is a son of a bitchline you son of
a bitch. That mailman does more work than your daddy,
who shoots people. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, well I deliver the mail so your dad can
kill people.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah. If that mailman hadn't delivered that package that day,
none of the movie would have happened. Okay, how dare you?
Maybe the mailman's going to be our fucking aspital queen
for finding his business and doing his goddamn job. I
will not take any mailman slamber on this channel.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Thank you for spacing out with BB and Jason. You
can help us out by subscribing and leaving a positive
rating or review. Next time we will cover the twenty
twenty two film Pray. We hope you will join us
Welcome to Spacing Out with BB and Jason this week
covering the twenty eighteen movie The Predator.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to spacing Now.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I'm BB and I'm Jason, and we are discussing the
Predator franchise. One entry at the time spoiler free. We
do reserve the right to have a spoiler section at
the end of the podcast in case you want to
discuss any feature entries in this series. But we are
building up to the release of Predator Badlands, which I
believe comes out on November seventh, and so our episode
(00:37):
will come out a couple weeks later, I believe. And
if you are listening to this on the Spacing Out
with Predator podcast channel, I invite you to check out
our main channel, Spacing Out with BB and Jason. We've
covered a bunch of other shows on there, and movies
and such, so lots more to explore. And at the
time of this recordings, all the Predator movies are available
on Hulu. I think Who's going to Go Away sometime six,
(01:00):
so it'll probably be on Disney at that point, and
if you're not in the US, it's probably on Disney already.
In this film, when a young boy accidentally triggers the
universe's most lethal hunters returned to Earth. Only a ragpad
crew of ex soldiers and a disgruntled scientist can prevent
the end of the human race.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Vibe check. Did we like the movie overall? How does
it stand the test of time?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
All right, kick us off with the vibe check.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It was pretty good. Interesting, a lot of mental health
talk mental health at before for this one, which was interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, weird in that regard. I watched this movie like
three years ago or something. I think we just watched
Pray recently, so I was like, oh, i'd liked Preditors.
Maybe they had finally figured out this movie franchise and
gave this a watch, and I remember not caring much
for it. On this watch, I found it pretty exciting
(01:57):
the whole way through, So I know, it's not like
a well received movie.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh really, No.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
And the depiction of autism has been criticized a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I can see that, so like.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's something that like I won't stand up for really.
But for the most part, like it's kind of action
packed and it moves really fast and there's not a
lot of downtime in the movie.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, I kind of had a hard time liking the
main character though, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, that's fair, but I don't know for me, Like
it's not not great, but I think it's better than
its reputation.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Trivia time, let's hear a little information about the Predator.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So this was The Predator, which originally premiered on September fourteenth,
twenty eighteen, written by Fred Decker and Shane Black, and
directed by Shane Black and Shane Black is known as
a writer for films such as Lethal Weapon one and two,
The Long Kiss, good Night, Kiss, Kiss, Bang Bang, Iron
Man three, some of those he also directed, and he
also played the role of Hawkins in the original Predator film.
(03:00):
He was the guy with glasses that told a lot
of dirty jokes.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Arnold Schwarzenegger declined to reprise his role as Dutch due
to being a small cameo. I feel like that's every
film we compan in this franchise are like we tried
to get Arnold. He said no, yeah for some reason
or another, and the CEO Del Toro was originally signed
on for the lead role, but he left through the
scheduling issues. Edward James almost had a role in the
film as a military general. Those scenes were cut from
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the final film.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Boo booo, don't it make my brown eyes blue? Sorry?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Jake Busey was cast as Sean Keyes, the son of
Peter Keyes, who's a character portrayed by his father Gary Busey.
And Predator too, and there are a number of attempts
to tie this back into Alien Versus Predator, so Francois
Yip has a brief non speaking role after previously playing
Miss Utani and Aliens Versus Predator Requiem. I don't actually
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remember seeing her in the movie, but as she was
there and a stunt woman portrayed Ellen Ripley in one
alternate ending and an adult Newt in a second alternate ending.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
New it was, I remember new Okay, well Newt in
the in the in the Predator franchise. Yeah, because they're
trying to tie any land.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
They were going to tie it back in, but I
guess they didn't go that route, crapped all of that.
The lab in which The Predator is held contains display
cases containing artifacts from previous Predator films, including masks, a
spear on shoulder blaster. The climax of the film was
rewritten and reshot in July of twenty eighteen, following four
test screenings. I don't know what they mean by the climax,
(04:38):
because it was like a long sequence. They redid that
whole thing. A short film titled The Predator Holiday Special
was included on the whole media release, in which Santa
Claus and his elves and reindeer encounter a predator at
a north pole. That's dumb. The film gross one hundred
and sixty point five million against the budget of eighty
eight million. Critical reception was poor. It's currently sitting at
(05:00):
thirty four percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Russ criticism went towards
the plot, calling the film messy and convoluted, as well
as the tonal inconsistencies. The depiction of autism was heavily criticized.
And there's also the behind the scenes controversy where apparently
the director casted a friend of his who was a
registered felony sex offender and in the role he was
(05:23):
repeatedly trying to flirt with Olivia Munn's character, and she
discovered this after filming and was able to get the
studio to remove the scene, thank god. Yeah, and then
there's a bunch of reporting I guess about about the issue,
and then like which male cast members were standing up
for who waited till public pressure arose to speak out?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So all that this is before me too too. Yeah,
so that's really intense.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And while the original intention was a set up a trilogy,
the torch was in passed to Dan Tracktenberg, who developed
the prequel movie Pray.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Not some guy who's going to hire his fucking predator
ass friend. Geez. He's like, oh, well, I'm making a
movie called Predator. Let me get a fucking sexual predator
in this, bitch.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
See, I wonder why that guy came to mind.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Jeez, deep space dive. Let's break down some of our
thoughts on the movie. You can share your thoughts with
us through email or social media. We may use your
comments on an upcoming episode.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Damn, now, I do hate this movie, like the whole thing.
It ruins the whole thing. The autism was already likes
sus because they obviously didn't hire anybody to consult. They
were just like, I don't know, make him WEIRDO make
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him be bullied and make him be sensitive to loud
noises and just awkward. And this kid he missed the mark.
For some of this, and obviously he's going to if
there's nobody doing training to show you what a real
autistic person's real reaction would be to being overstimulated. And
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you don't go from being overstimulated to then performing like,
you know, the top chess champion, like elite things. It's
it's very difficult to come off of, like being stressed out.
I couldn't imagine any kid, like little kid going from
(07:29):
like freaking the fuck out over a fire alarm to
casually putting together a bunch of chess pieces as the
fire alarm is still going.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, And I was like, the like, the overall driving
idea of this movie is like autism is actually like
a superpower.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
No, autism is the next step in the evolutionary timeline.
I can bite that, Like, I can understand you having
like an extra chromozoone or an extra DNA strand or
some bullshit is going to make you better human. Maybe
not for society because society isn't ready to accept autistic people,
(08:07):
but I could see how that would be evolutionarily maybe
where we're moving towards. Who knows. I can't speak to
that because I'm not a fucking scientist. But it's weird
that there was only one autistic person in the whole film.
And let's talk about the other representations of mental illness,
like played by combat vets who were in a bus.
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You know, they evaluated the main character because he saw something,
and they were like, well, we need to scrub that,
we need to get rid of all the evidence. And
the easiest way to get rid of evidence is to,
you know, label him mentally unstable and mentally ill. And
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I didn't know. I didn't know that the military had
their own military mental facilities, because goddamn if I don't
see a lot of military ex military members on the
fucking streets suffering from mental illness.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, that seemed like far fetched.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
How come? How why were these guys so special that
they didn't just get booted out of the army, you know,
with a dishonorable discharge and let them fend for themselves
on the street. So it's very interesting to imagine a
world where the military is going to take care of
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its mentally ill military members with PTSD turetts and delusions
of grandeur. I don't know what their diagnosises were. And
how come the turets went away when he held a gun.
What kind of psychological or mental block is that?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Did he develop turettes after he was removed from service?
I don't know. And then like what was Key's big
mental illness? He's funny.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, he doesn't say anything. I'm just looking at like
the character lists just as a marine veteran, he teams
up with them, the pype of predators. Yeah, Nettles was
the helicopter pilot, the religious guy. They said, he's suffered
a traumatic brain injury.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So then it's very weird, very cherry picking of like
different like diagnosies in the in the Book of of
Mental Illness. And like you can tell they didn't have
a professional to say, oh, well, actually he would do
this or that, or he would be very like that.
(10:44):
But it just sucked like that, Like I didn't like
that they wouldn't. And like one thing that really bothered
me was nobody picked this little boy up from school
and he was home alone for god knows how.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Long Yeah, before mom got home, so in the.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And and for a child with autism, that could be detrimental.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, and even when his mom was home, like he
was in the basemin by himself.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, no supervision no supervision. And even in the classroom
when they had a fucking fire alarm, was nobody doing
a headcount trying to make sure that all the children
were out.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
There's no adult supervising club.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
No, there was no adults taking care of that child
until it was convenient to the plot. What the fuck?
And then again, a little autistic boy going out on
Halloween by.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Himself, Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Knowing that he has bullies, knowing that he has issues
with sensory and God knows that Halloween is full of
fucking sensory issues. You don't think he's gonna get upset
because there's fucking police or or some other sirens or
some other like scary Halloween like things. Mom didn't even
(11:58):
know what he looked like when he to say there's
a missing person, there's a missing child. She didn't even
know which costume he left with. What kind of parents
are these?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, Like, it doesn't even matter that he's autistic, Like
he's too young to be like that unsupervised to just
leave the house on Halloween.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
When you see like ten, eleven, twelve, even then, that's
still a little kid. He looked little, So I that
was the hardest pill for me to swallow to have
like a child on the spectrum so unsupervised at every
moment in his life, in school, at home, and even leisure.
That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I didn't like that. And like, I don't know. I've
known people who have autistic kids and they literally stop working,
They literally stop going to their day to day jobs
to take care of their autistic children.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
If that's what's needed. So h, I'm home from work.
Did you make dinner?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Like what?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That's crazy? And she didn't have any dinner ready, she
didn't have any snacks for him, Like, I don't know.
I have a problem with this part of the movie.
I really do. Like she's a single mom, and I
understand maybe she doesn't have the support system to maybe
take care of a child with special needs. But you
find it if you really, if you need it, you
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will look for it. No babysitter, nobody to be home
with him alone. He's home alone. That was crazy. And
then what if the mailman was a creep? What if
the mailman was like, oh, let me show you something else.
Because he interacts with adults that aren't his parents or
his teachers, and that's when the danger can come I mean,
I'm not saying that parents and teachers can't be responsible
(13:44):
for harming children, but they're supposed to be trusted adults,
but them. That was the craziest part for me. That
whole part the movie itself was interesting, but that that
was a hard pill for me to swallow. Knowing families
take care of children with disabilities, that care and that
support is so needed and critical for the child's wellbeing.
(14:09):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Literally, Yeah, So I know it's weird, Like I'm not
I don't feel qualified to like speak about the representation
of autism.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
No, I don't either, Like I really don't, because there's like,
like you know, autism is a spectrum, and there are
some kids who are able to function fully within their
like peers in society without ever and like part of
that is like a masking thing where they learn to
(14:38):
adapt and they learn to like take the social cues
and kind of push through and kind of be what
is quote unquote perceived to be normal. But I mean,
there is no normal, and there are some kids who
the spectrum is so on the other side. They're nonverbal,
(14:59):
they don't they don't do things for themselves, they can't
bathe themselves. They can't use the restroom, so it's very difficult.
And I wish they would have talked about the spectrum
because a lot of people to this day, literally right now,
are saying that autism is a genetic defect and that
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it should be eradicated and we should we should find
a cure. And I'm sure a lot of people believe
that some of these children should have never been born,
which is eugenics. And so it's very interesting that and
I'm sure that's kind of something that they were tapping
into in this show or in this movie, because society
(15:44):
sees autistic people and children as less than or lower
in the evolutionary chain, and so they flip the script right,
they're saying, no, this is the next step. They're advanced,
they're better than not us. And I kind of like that.
I think it's still flawed. I think we need to
(16:05):
just like accept that we're all part of the evolutionary chain,
and you know, the genetic mutations that happen is just
random and not caused by something specific that you can do.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
And that's the thing. Like it's a complicated, nuanced conversation,
and this is not like a nuanced movie like, Hey,
we're going to pitch the idea that you know, autism
is the next step so much that the predator wants
their DNA.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Man, they could have just gone to any special school,
Like there's literal schools full of kids with autism. They
could have cherry picked.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
But it's also like it wants this kid specifically because
it could like interpret their language, something that you know,
scholars had not been able to do. But the whole
time they always go back to, like they mentioned at
least twice, so like autism next step in the evolutionary chain.
So it's like, is it this kid specifically or are
you trying to make a broader statement right right?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I don't know, it's a it is this movie, I
would say it was very ham fisted with its portrayal
of disabilities or people with different abilities. And I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
I I just like the the action in this one,
Like I didn't want too much of a story about
the next step.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
In evolution and all this shit, Like I was kind
of interested in their genetic like transmutation of like building
a new predator with all the DNA of other predators.
That's very interesting. Yeah, And then like did they ever
explain why that one predator had human DNA.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
No, well, I mean kind of. They basically said that
they're incorporating the DNA of different species to try to
make the Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
This guy was a prototype. So then the big guy
was like, oh, well, let's add all of them. So
why did it progress so aggressively And why did the
guy with the human DNA want to help the humans?
Is it because he feels more human?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I mean, we don't get any nuance on that.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I'm telling you. They they could have, like leed just
let's just be a bust full of military renegades and
not specifically psych word patients, because I think that psych
word thing was somebody trying to be like nuanced and
woo woo, you know, and trying to be like, oh, well,
(18:38):
you know, they're people too, but they don't portray any
real symptomatic like versions of a person with like any
sort of mental illness. So what that guy says, oh,
you know, God willing or you know, Jesus is coming
or whatever, And girl, do you know how many Americans
(19:01):
right now believe that the rapture was coming And they're
not classified as fucking mentally ill. They're just normal Americans.
And then the guy with tourettes was his turets was
just comedic relief. Yeah, and that's not That's not what
Tourette's is. Tourette's is like a horrible condition that is
uncontrollable and inconvenient for a lot of people. Like they
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try to be they try to have a normal life,
and they they have a tick, they have like an
uncontrollable reaction. And this guy like to say, a full
sentence as your tick as your tourettes. That's wild, bro.
I don't know, And I just I'm curious about the
sex offender that flirted with Olivia Mun's character, whether or
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not they were on the bus too, or if they
were where they were positioned.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Well, it sounds like they deleted the scene like very
late in the process, so I'm thinking maybe it was
like in the lab or something, uh huh, or they
could just drop that. It's just one scene too, so
it couldn't have been someone on the bus really. Yeah.
So yeah, but the action was fun.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
The action was really fun. There was a lot of explosions.
There was a lot of CGI that I enjoyed, even
though usually I don't like CGI. I really like the
shield element where that guy's legs got chopped off, and
I was like, he could still live a healthy life.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, if he lands, Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
That was the thing. I was like, if he lands, okay,
he's gonna live. He's not gonna have legs. But that
would have been really cool if he would have lived,
and then we would have had another layer of like
disability visibility in the show. You know that I would
have really appreciated. But they had a murder all in.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
The very beginning. When the two presators are chasing each other,
they like ripped through space. I didn't know that was
a thing in this world.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, they have like a hyperdrive, but that's how they
rip through space.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
And then when our main character, he don't know his name.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
The blonde guy you had a horrible blonde eye job.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
McKenna, when he gets in that little town and mails
that package and then it arrives at the house, I'm like, wow,
that guy packed it really well. Okay, so he took
it to FedEx or something.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Let's talk. Let's talk about the representation of Mexico in film.
The representation, the vision of Mexico is always this dirt
road town with dilapidated buildings. That bar did it even
have a door? No? I don't think it did. You
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just go into the bar and you ask for service
and you show your gun, and how convenient, Like what
a great ad placement for Don Julio. That was so disgusting, dude,
I hated. I'm like, oh my god, how much did
Don Julio pay to be part of this? Because I
know for sure they don't drink no goddamn Don Julio
(22:09):
in Mexico. Okay, that's the shit you drink in America.
So either this is a border town or you know,
it's a fake, fictitious version of Mexico. And yeah, like
giving that guy your stuff and threatening him with violence,
how do you know he's not just gonna throw it away?
But yeah, he packed it really nice and he even
(22:31):
got bubble wrap. And I'm like, in that fake ass
town in Mexico, where is he gonna get bubble rap?
I'm surprised that they didn't just put straw in that motherfucker. Right.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, well you didn't see it. But just down the
street further there's a big mega mall with all the resources.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
There's a there's a Kinko's. Yeah, there are Kinkos in
Mexico though, so I just wish they would have portrayed
it more like realistic. But it's kind of like the
you know when they put that CPA filter in in
like oh an hour in Mexico. Here's the filter. It's
a little dirty. Everything's a little blurry.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It's a little yellow here.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
And everybody speaks English and understands English and knows your
address and how to mail things internationally. How convenient. I
really wish it did go to the PO box because
imagine if like the Predator goes to the post office.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I mean, this movie supplot only works. It's like
this kid is always on supervise and that peo box
is full.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah no, And like the thing is, if your PO
box is full, they'll hold it at the desk. They're
not going to mail it to your house. You have
a peeo box for a reason. Some most of the time,
it's because the mailman doesn't deliver to your address. You're
not in their mail route, and so you have to
have a peeo box or you don't want things to
be delivered to your address because of THEFT. I wonder
(24:04):
if if he got insurance for the package. That's what
they always ask you, if you want to ensure your package.
I wonder if he got insurance for his Predator package.
And the mom is so stupid, She's like, oh, I
thought it was a video game, ma'am. Do you know
what video games look like? Y to not even examine
or go through everything that your son has to say,
(24:26):
my son is playing a video game, but I don't
know what it looks like. We're in the era of
grand theft auto. How do you know your son's not
driving around like Sam Pedro or whatever and beating up hookers.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's weird that she said that too, because like the
kid took the package downstairs, opened hisself and was doing
all that when she wasn't around. Yeah, are they implying that,
like another point, she was down there with him, or
that she actually see the mask or if you saw
him like he's doing stuff. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's just weird, man, Like that mom and that kid,
the relationship is weird, and like the mom is the
primary parent, right, and the kid had no problem just
leaving going away with dad. That's crazy to me, Like
even like even kids who aren't on the spectrum have
a hard time leaving their primary parent, so like by Mom.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Deuces and we never like return to the Mom character
once the plot's done with her.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
No, they call her on the phone or they tell
He's like, oh you have your own desk, Wait till
I tell mom, buddy.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
That's how Mom gets So. I think she was waiting
for the day that the military took away her son
so she can finally not have to come home from
work and see a little kid.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I like the stuff at the lab. I liked seeing
them like trying to examine the predator. You kind of
know what's going to wake up at some point. That's
how movies work. And I like that Olivia Munn's character
called them out that predator was the wrong word for
this creature.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, I thought that was funny, Like, yeah, predator
kills to survive, whereas a bass proman is doing it
for sport, So that is really funny.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And the predator passes up killing her when she's naked.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I think her representation of that, like the way that
her body and her face like portrayed the vulnerability that
you would have felt, was really really good, Like I
really appreciated her acting in that moment because I feel
like that would have been very difficult to be nude
(26:38):
in front of this huge alien creature that is literally
named for its killing abilities. And then like the way
that she reacted afterwards, where she was crying and upset,
I was like, that is really good. That is really
great acting and direction in that one moment. If that
was even a direction, I don't know. I'm still kind
(26:58):
of reeling from the direct there's decision to put that
woman in danger.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
What else there was? There's a lot of cgi regarding
the predator, like sometimes it wasn't an actual person in
a suit. Yeah, it was not favorable, Like we've come
so used to seeing it.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
As a physical form.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, and the creature design and all the costuming and
makeup and everything. I like that we brought in the
dogs from Predators, and I guess there's a little bit
of that, like feud between the big ones and the
small ones.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
For the predators.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we still don't know what it's about
or anything.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's a blood feud. Obviously one of them has more
and better DNA than the other, and only the strong
shell survive.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
And somewhere hidden in the mess of this movie is
like a message about climate change.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Did I miss that?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, because there's oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
They're saying that they're freaking up the DNA before the
time ends, before a clock runs out, I remember.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Now, Yeah, and that they're they're to move into this
planet because it's going to be nice and warm for them,
because they like it warm except when they're fighting at
the South Pole or something.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, well they can always move to Guatemala or Mexico
or some of those equator places. But yeah, that was
they did sneak that in and nobody paid attention and
they just moved on from it, like oh well, let's
just keep going instead of like let's recycle now, and
(28:27):
we're still this.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Is important, but not as important as you know, dealing
with autism and the future of human evolution. Then near
the end, when I don't know what his character is,
will trigger the government agent guy when they at the
end were they're first boarding the alien ship, he puts
on sunglasses outside at nighttime and then he takes it
(28:50):
and then they walk into the ship and then he
takes them off. I don't understand what that was about.
He's like, I gotta look cool. For my entrance.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I think that's exactly what it was, Jason, like that
they trusted, that they trusted a ten year old to
get them into this alien spaceship. And then instead of
sending in like some like like field researchers or like
somebody like initial to make contact, they that he decides
(29:17):
to go in himself, because what if there was another
one just waiting chilling? Yeah, what if there's a booby
trap inside the spaceship? That's so dumb, it's kind of
it reminded me of like Indiana Jones were like, no,
you gotta let the Nazis go first. We gotta let
a couple of dumb Nazis go in first, so we
(29:38):
know where the booby traps are.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
And then when the presator is flying the ship and
the three of them have climbed on top of it
and the shields comes on and all the ship must
have traveled like miles and miles before it eventually crashes.
But then when they crashes, like olivium on is right there? Yeah,
like did it circle around back to where it came from?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah? Totally totally. And she had she found the pearl
to make herself invisible too. Yeah, and she knew exactly
how to work that thing without any instruction, So maybe
she's a little autistic too.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Also, they got pooped out.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Huh they got pooped out? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh what else they said? They get to the choppers
line that was a little on the nose. Yeah, well cringe,
I guess forced.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
I like they had a news chopper. That was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, they described the predator as alien. WHOOPI Goldberg.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
That was a good description.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Okay, anything else, so you want to move on?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I'm done. Yeah, I don't care. This movie is fine.
It's like whatever.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm you know, I'm glad we're through it. Yeah, because
next we get to do pray yes, and then the
upcoming ones also appear to be have good reviews.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Astro queen. Who was the stand out character in the film.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I'm going to give it to the autistic kid, Mac
Miller or whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
His name was. He was Rory McKenna.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, for dealing with all those normans. Although no, maybe
I'll give it to Olivia Mom.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's who I was thinking, because he.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Sucked at acting no offense, but he was just a
little boy. Yeah, I'm going to give it to Olivia Mom.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
I think too, and her name was Casey Brackett.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
What a weird name name or after some hardware.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
I like that. She wanted to get sampled all the time.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, she's like, hold on, let me get a sample.
I need to study this. And then she had a
where did she get it? Was that microscope for that? Like, uh,
that's the microscope right, like the little thing she had
one just like with her? Was that in her backpack
the whole time? Because that backpack looked empty.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
She probably cares it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
All right, Well, two awards headed her way, and I
think that will wrap it up. I don't think we
need to do a spoiler for Prey.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, if you've seen it, you know. If you haven't
seen it, you're gonna find out. Come watch it with us.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
We can thank this movie for allowing them to correct course.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah for real shit.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So yeah, that's the next movie will be Prey, and
that will be followed by the animated movie Killer of
Killers and then Predator. Batman's so thank you for spacing
out with us. And what was A Lynn's movie?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Jason. He kills people, so you can be a mailman.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That is a son of a bitchline you son of
a bitch. That mailman does more work than your daddy,
who shoots people. That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah, well I deliver the mail so your dad can
kill people.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah. If that mailman hadn't delivered that package that day,
none of the movie would have happened. Okay, how dare you?
Maybe the mailman's going to be our fucking aspital queen
for finding his business and doing his goddamn job. I
will not take any mailman slamber on this channel.
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