June 14, 2023 • 34 mins
#81: @chercosenza & @skeeryjones discuss alien intervention with humanity; our friend @diamondsincere joins Cher & Skeery for a recap of #PumpRules Reunion pt. 3 and helps us make sense of all the #drama that went down #VanderpumpRules #Bravo #AndyCohen #Scandoval @BravoAndy @BravoTV #gossip
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From friendships to relationships. It's afashion and entertainment It's your one stop high
speed pop culture podcast. This isSpeaking Volumes with Share and Scary. Oh
yes, we are back with anotheredition of Speaking Volumes Podcast. How are
you guys doing? Look at you? Number on? Do you want to
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take a guess? H twelve?I wish it's number eighty one of the
Speaking Volumes Podcast. I'm Scary Jones. That's Porsche. There's Share well sharing
Porsche. I got devoted, Igot to voted again. Last find my
daughter. I'm hopare with it.Okay, but let's just remember Speaking Volumes
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with Sharon Scarty you know my otherpod, and Porsche, you know on
my other podcast, I fight withBrody for a lead title. It's like
it's like the running joke shocking.It's like with Scary. If you look
at the logo, it says it'swith Scary and Brodie Brooklyn boys with Scary
and Brodie. But he always BrodianScary. No, and a lot of
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the some of the listeners, alot of does not yeah, And a
lot of listeners are like Brodian Scary, like whatever it is, you know,
And then it's like it's alphabetical.It's alphabetical. I'm like, I'm
always gonna lose because my name iswith an s now. First of all,
that is not why that is ridiculous. Yeah, Brodie's just trying to
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throw around, like I don't know, maybe he like feels like the big
brother of the podcast. I don'tknow what he feels like. All I
could tell you is what it ishe feels he needs the seniority. Yeah,
he's like, listen, buddy,listen, it's Brodian scary. It's
okay, they're gonna call it's scaryand brody here. So now Porsche's with
us, And if you're listening tothis, she's making all kinds of noises,
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it's because she's seeing her face inthe camera and she's she's mesmerized by
her all funny faces, sticking hertongue out. Listen, I gotta tell
you this kid lately is just sofunny. She's becoming this little comedian.
And the funnier her faces are orcrazier, the more she doesn't when I
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tell her, like if I'm like, hey, Porsche, why are you
making that face while I'm trying totake a beautiful picture? She's like,
oh, let me do it more. So now I just don't comment on
it because I try. I hearthat. Wow, who Okay? All
right time in the meantime, I'llshare something with you. She's louder than
you by that, I can't hearyou. You gotta have the mic close.
The microphone needs ballet, Okay,can you hear me? Now?
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Talk to me about ballet. SoPorsche's started ballet, okay, sure.
So we've taken some trial ballet classesbecause we're trying to pick which school we
want to participate with. And youknow, it's funny. One of the
creative moments in ballet for her isthey make you stand and they have you
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stand in first position and they're supposedto make a funny, silly face in
the mirror. So it's something thatI'm starting to realize is actually promoted even
when they're trying to develop these skills, because that's actually a skill. It
lets them express them. Yeah.So you know Porsche's expressing herself on our
podcast. I love it. Youknow, I just can't believe how everything
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has changed since I went to school. Don't forget, I don't have kids,
so I don't have even a magicmirror view into what's going on.
But I hear, you know,I mean obviously things. I mean maybe
maybe not in Porsche's grade, butas they get older. Oh wait,
oh well she's not in a gradeyet. She's in zero now, she's
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not school yet. Okay, okay, she's not. She's only four,
four years old. Yeah. Um, it's crazy to me because, um,
they don't they obviously they say crisscross apple sauce when they want to
cross their legs or pretzel up.That's been for a few years now.
They don't. They don't. Theydefinitely do that in one of her Mommy
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and Me classes that we take,because they don't cross apple sauce. We
used to say something that I guessis completely offensive these days. What did
we say? We sit Indian style, that's how because it was cross in
a circle. But yes, porrisclass apple sauce. No crislas. Okay,
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there you go. No what aboutI love it. By the way,
our friend Diamond from The Big ShowI was to Ran Morning Show is
going to join us in a minute. Nat. Well we'll see. I
saw I saw the screen make aweird fee for a second. Well,
there's a big listen, there's agood reason why we have Diamond joining us
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set. Diamond is the authority onall things vander Pump Rules and all things
Housewives and all things Bravo and AndyCohen. So which means we're going to
be bringing her back because we'll havea little bit more on some Bravo stuff
that we've been collecting. But obviouslywe want to talk really quick start our
podcast with finding out Scary. What'sbeen new with you? Anything, anything,
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anything on your mind? Is thereanything on Scary Jones's mind? Yeah,
Well, I kind of freaked outlast weekend. My girlfriend made me
watch um as a marathon on theHistory Channel. It's called Ancient Aliens,
and it basically tells you that alienswe are nothing more than a laboratory experiment
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for aliens. That's pretty much thecrux of the show. We are here
on Earth, wow, and alienshave been with us since the beginning of
time. In fact, if youfeed into some of this stuff like the
Great Pyramids and all these wonders ofthe world, where you realize that it
had to have been made by aliens, If you look at hieroglyphics in the
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caves, if you look at pictures. There's always in these old there's pictures
of UFOs in them, meaning thatbehind everything, no, meaning like they
have these they've seen alien sightings andthey've been down to Earth all those years
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ago in the fifteen hundreds. Becausethey're in their drawings, they're in their
scriptures. There is all kinds ofall kinds of like proof that aliens have
been down here and that we arenot alone in this universe. Now,
I know I'm talking like a freakall of a sudden, but watch you're
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not. But hold on. Ifyou watch those shows, yeah, it
can really bring you into another lighton what's happening in the world. Twig
broken down, twinkle, twinkle,broken down car? Is that how the
nursery rhyme goes? Yeah? Um, anyway, wait a second, so
hold on, though about your yourshow that you watch, The Robin had
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you watch? I will tell youI think it's great she had you watch
that, because those shows break thingsdown to where you go, wait a
second, it's plausible. What isit? What is it that really are
they trying to say to us,and the fact that we're actually like an
experiment. Then yeah, that almostbut they're not saying they're angry. They're
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saying that they're they're saying that ifthat they're friendly, you know, and
that nothing bad, no, basicallyyeah, and that that if they wanted
to destroy us, they could havedone it years ago. But almost like
almost like people that are still likesearching to find out if it's real and
it's there, like wake up,yes it is. Well, there's more
UFO sighting, more and more ufsightings. Just just the other day a
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couple in Vegas saw a UFO.Um. They're saying, there's remains of
UFOs and all the like, andthe government is no longer hell bent against
it anymore, so we must knowsomething. Yeah. But that's interesting too
because it's a long time that wasso taboo. You can't talk about it,
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don't talk about it talking. I'msaying no, for the longest time.
You're right, right exactly, itwas just taboo. Yeah. But
the fact that now they're coming outits show is on so many things scary
that they never let out just showsyou how entertainment has taken a new leap,
Like twenty twenty three, it's thesame and poor singing to she may
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be programmed by an alien right now? Who knows you're programmed by an alien.
They're saying that there's okay, dying, no talk. Oh yeah the
dinopeas do you understand that? Now? Hey listen, so listen, we
have we're running out of time,unfortunately because we have let me get back
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to why we were talking about youryour moment for a second. We'll go
I'll tell you my ten minutes ofnuances when we come back on. Because
having Diamond on today was a bigdeal because they think you and I were
talking about something in the news recentlycame out today, right, What was
it that we were talking about?Bill Murray thing? Yeah, Bill Murray
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legendary actor, seventy two years old, dating Calise the one hit wonder My
Milkshake Brings all the Boys to theyard she's forty three. Yeah, And
and people are like, what thiscame out of nowhere? Like how did
these two meet? What are theyhave in common? And why is this
a headline? So here's the thingthough, that's exactly it a headline.
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So let's just talk about, likewe were just talking about entertainment and how
the news shows are out there intwenty twenty three and things changed, So
let's just bring it to speed withreality, the reality series and what has
actually happened and how things like theBill Murray news story. Sure, okay
is like top dial, right.So the reason why, the reason why
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wait, let me just disconnect Porsche, hang on a second, go grab
your The reason why is because obviouslypeople see the fame that comes out of
publicizing all this stuff. Now,that's nothing new, but the amount of
exposure you get is something that canreally be overwhelming at times. And one
of the things that's been completely overwhelmingfor weeks has been this story through vander
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Pump. Correct. Yes, thatis correct, and that's why since the
finale happened, if the third onecame out, we wanted to have an
episode today and kind of just rehashgiven opinion, a little share nos,
and some diamond on what happened andwhat is is really about. It's too
large to ignore the whole vander Pumpscandal. As you know, Arianna met
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Arianna Mattox and Tom Sandoval if youif you don't follow, they've been dating
for like eight or nine years.But Arianna sweet as apple pie, the
good girl, and then you gotTom, who we thought was awesome and
faithful, only to come to findout that he's been sleeping with Roquel,
her best friend, for like sevenmonths. Well we're gonna anyway. So
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after they finished filming the season andthis all came out because keep in mind,
you know, the show has beenaround for ten years now with Lisa
Vander prom and it was it startedstrong, then there was this lull where
no one talked about it, butin the last couple of months it wrapped
up again because of the scandival withTom Finally so and then they recently had
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a three part, three week ina row talk about Milking It reunion where
all of them got together after thetaping and more secrets were revealed on these
during these three reunion shows. Soto make sense if it, Diamond has
been there forever and she's she's gladshe has because I haven't. But let
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me tell you what I've taken fromthis whole thing. I would love to
hear her thoughts on because there isa different angle I want to hit on
this. It's not just let's rehashit, let's let's think about this for
a second. What is really goingon exactly? And Diamond is a part
of Elvis durand The Morning show.She's on with us every single morning,
and she's basically answered our phones.She's she does so much more than that.
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She's she's one of our producers whodo so much in the background and
is a rising star, and she'sa giant all things reality junkie. So
I thought I saw her try andpipe in there. Let's see. Oh,
here it is here she comes there. Oh, I believe she is
boom. Can you see me?Can you hear me? I just want
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to make sure. Yeah, absolutelyhas everything we can I can see and
hear you. Hi Diamond, Hi, how are you good? Thanks for
joining us. So Sharon has amillion questions about she Well, that's Porsha
by the way, her daughter.That's Porsha. Yeah, Porsha say So
this is the Speaking Volumes podcast.We talk about a lot of pop culture
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things we don't usually touch on vanderPump in fact, we know, let's
be honest, we never do.But share was sucked in and you know,
from a legal perspective, about amonth or two ago when the whole
scand of all thing happened. Andthen she's been watching religiously every week.
She watched the reunion show weeks soshe's got questions, but I said,
you know better than me. Imean, I just see a couple of
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cliff notes versions, watch a coupleof YouTube clips, and see what my
girlfriend has to tell me about it. Diamonds is the one. No,
I need you because literally, letme tell you something. He's right.
Originally, I was going on thelegal aspect here because I heard that they
were slapped with their stranding order andthis and that, and I'm like,
how many of these reality shows probablyhave this happen and their big dog attorneys
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get in and say, yo,you guys got to drop this because we
have a show to do. Andif you want your fifty grand by the
end for this and you want yourmoney for that endorsement, everybody better get
along. I don't care about thedrama, but no illegal stuff. So
I was waiting to do something onthat, and then I figured out that
that had so many other layers too, and I was like, oh,
let's just talk layers. Let's waittill the end. Where do we begin?
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Because I'm ready go for it.Well, just well, why don't
you talk about the reunion show?I just gave them an overview? Okay
something, okay, are you ready, hold on, I'm scary. I'm
gonna give her some buzzes. Okay. So I have some things that I
took away from the reunion. I'mgonna throw them out at you and let
you just go. You're ready,okay? So raqual my actions are human.
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I was a people pleaser, andnow I'm pleasing myself. You know,
like she's deluded, right, Like, now you're pleasing yourself. So
to make yourself happy, you're gonnasleep with your best friend's boyfriend. Are
you crazy? But then at theexpense of others? Yeah, I'm self
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happy. So that's what we shouldall be doing, right, Diamond,
at the expense of others? Howcan I make myself happy in this world?
I mean, I mean a lotof people do it already, but
like how crappy the world would be? People that on the everyday basis,
Oh, okay, are you crazy? She's a lunatic. Then people are
saying that they feel bad for herthese days, like oh I felt bad,
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I understand, but no, sorry, no, no, we're not
just talking about a regular mistress here. So let me ask you something else
and then and then I have likeanother one for you. But didn't you
feel like the last episode, okay, when she finally was allowed in because
Shana get got taken away. Ye, didn't you feel like her demeanor was
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almost not what you'd want her tohave, Like if you decided to lay
in this bed and you made thissaid you lay in it type attitude,
because that's where I come from.I'm a total I'm the actress PI.
Okay, So when I look withmy PI blindfolds over here and I look
through this light, I go likethis. I go, okay, you
did this, deal with it.Let stand up for yourself a little bit.
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At this point, I found herdemeanor to be so strange because it
was almost like I'm just really sorryand I don't know what to say,
and I'm so ashamed of myself.That's fine, fine, you're human if
that's really what you want to comeout and say. But there's got to
be a party of you that sayssomething a little more confident. Right.
There's no confidence behind any of that, And it's kind of shocking. Did
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you see that Andy said somewhere thispast week that he felt like she was
on medication, because maybe that's whatit was. Listen, I don't know
how she could defend herself with this. I really, I mean, what
were you going to say? Andalso, let's let's talk about the fact
that apparently this guy, uh Sandoval, because we'll get her. Yeah,
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so he probably saga, maybe thatwas it. Maybe that's why your demeanor
just seemed so like it just wastoo strange. And I do agree maybe
it was at medication thing. Right, Do you think that? I believe
it? Once he said it,I'm like, does that makes sense?
Um? But I also think thatwe're dealing with someone who's just not all
there anyway, whatever capacity it is. Maybe like the way that she communicates
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is weird like that, So Ithink that's who she is. But I'm
like, to what extent do youthink this is for the show? Right?
Meaning like that, Okay, youknow what we're all we've all come
to grips with the fact that we'vebeen doing this show for all these years.
I'm going to do some outrageous thingsand and and and all no holds
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barred. And I know we're dealingwith real relationships because because Tom and Arianam
were going out for all these years, Yes, but to what extent do
they lean into it? Now?That's like, well, it's out there
now, so I'm just going forit. Well. The thing, the
thing about it that made everyone wholike has watched for all these years so
disgusted is the fact that in thisentire season, the two of them basically
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you find out at the end thatthe two of them were like pushing a
specific narrative all season, and youlike it was to cover up their their
affair, which makes it even worse. They like brought in Um Schwartz,
his best friend recently, Yes,the one that so Raquel kisses him even
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x oh he knows just scary doyou know this? Did I know about
this? I know about now?And then and then all about him carrying
her on Halloween? Tom Sandoval,right, no, no wrong thing.
So he dressed like her, right, like Raquel for Halloween? Right,
yes, the weirdest thing on theplanet. But anyway, he so she
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made out with his best friend,Tom, the other Tom, yes,
yes, who's going through a divorcewith Katie, who's also a friend of
the group. They had a basicallyan understanding just don't hook up with anybody
in the friend group. They doit, they they Sheep makes out with
him and it can't That was likethe big thing of the season. We
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find we thought you thought it wasthe big thing of this. We thought
it was the big thing of theseason. You find out that it was
just all like, you know,they conspired with each other to do this.
It's disgusting. That's what makes iteven worse. I am disgusted.
So so the fans are felt thefans feel had at the end of this,
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Do they feel like that, like, because I'm I'm thinking, like,
do they feel the producers um areinstigators? And they didn't. There
were some key things that they didn'tlet let their own cast in on that
they probably should have been said.Um, I think if in thing I
felt had by the teasing of whatthe grand discovery was going to be at
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the very end of part three,which was it was just the fact that
the timeline was longer than everyone,right, and it was seven months long,
and people were like, what itwas going on all this time?
It wasn't just a week? Wellyou know yeah? And the other thing,
right, Diamond. The other problemwas was when they did that little
recap at the end, it wasalmost like here, everybody that was really
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engaged in it is sitting here watchingthese three episodes right at the end,
and then you get to the finale, you hear Raquel finally come out,
because that's what everybody's waiting for,it to see Rachel come out and talk
right, And then you get thisblurb after that that's basically saying that she
lied while she was on the stage, just telling everybody the story because she
did have sex in their house andshe did what do you call it,
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have sex in Mexico with him waswhen they were in Mexico. Wait a
second, how did that happen whenTom was with Arianna there? That's what
That's what makes me have a lotmore questions about their relationship as a whole
anyway, which leads me to believethat maybe everybody's looking the other way because
this is going to be some greatTV. I think in the other way
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because she's defended him so much overthe years. There's he's had more than
one cheating accusation thrown at him orthem as a couple or whatever, um,
and she's defended him. So Ithink that like she felt like,
well, if anyone has questions,we'll figure it out. But we're going
to discuss this amongst ourselves and notpublicly. But I think that this was
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just too much for her to handle. I mean, this was this was
way too much. Here, I'llgive you another one that Tom said,
we don't live our lives by logic. He's crazy, And you know,
I don't know what I thought.The Howie Mandel interview was enough for me,
Like I was done with him afterthat because it was like, you're
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clearly lying, like he believes thenarratives that he's come up with her.
Yeah, and it's scary. I'mlike, lalla freaking out on him.
I yeah, what's the deal withthat? So can we talk about that
for a second, because that's anotherthing I wanted to talk to you about.
So it just seemed to me like, first of all, there seemed
obviously it was disgusting because then whenyou look back at the episodes, you
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see all the things that you wouldhave hoped Para would have picked up on,
right, But everybody played this likevictim role for her, or she
played this victim role and everybody ateinto it, like you know, she's
the person that you know, itis kind of just getting targeted and looked
at like that. We've all beenthere, So let's just you know,
not join the gang and gang upon her. But then there was this
whole thing with Lala who and Jamesthey were like on fire. So that's
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something that Scary and I were talkingabout for like a brief moment, right,
And Scary's angle, obviously is onthe TV side of what's actually being
done for the ratings. Do youthink at that point Lalla and James are
just going in to town because theyjust want the attention because everybody seems to
be attention grappers on the show.Um, okay. So James, I
completely understand why he feels the waythat he does and why he's acting out
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the way that he is, eventhough it's very immature. He was engaged
to rock Hill, and Tom helpedpay for the engagement, like he helped
pay for like the extravagant way thathe um proposed to her. Also,
there are rumors they didn't acknowledge thisor whatever, but there are rumors that
they slept together when she and Jameswere still together. Oh my god,
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it's so incestuous. Yeah. Sothe thing I can't I don't know if
it's actually true, but I wouldn'tbe surprised if I got a question why
do people like Sheena and La Lahave to make it their business too when
they got really nothing to do withthis. Okay, so Sheina was caught
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in the middle. I do Understandinawent back and forth with Katie all season
about the fact the Roquel, Imean not Roquel. Yeah, Roquel was
such a good person and oh youlike let them live. When when when
Schwartzen m Roquel with each other orwhatever, she was like team Roquel.
She was going so hard, solike she not feel like you made me
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look stupid? You know, Ithink that's how it feels. You made
me look dumb. She said thatshe's even let Roquel sleep in the bed
with her and her husband, likeshe really trusted her. She paid for
this girl to like, since shepaid to set her apartment up somewhere.
I think that it's just like they'reall a really close group of friends.
I think a lot of them havegotten way closer since. Like I took
a break from watching. So Iwas shocked too. But whatever, um
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La La You know, La Lawas demonized in the past few seasons.
She so, I feel like thiswas her Like she felt vindicated because this
was her way to come out andsay yeah, see I'm not I'm not
the crazy one, and she calledthe mistress and she she ended up finding
out that she was a mistress,Like she was dating a guy who was
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married or whatever. But her thingwas, I was being lied to.
You knew what you were doing yourfriends with his girlfriend. So I just
think it's a bunch of a lotof egos in the building, and they
were cast for these roles based ontheir personalities, so a combustible moment like
this was bound to happen at somepoint during the show with all the people
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like living on top of each otherand mixing character. It's all I mean,
because these are they were cast forthis show for this reason, to
create drama, and finally, afterten seasons, Andy Cohen and Bravo are
like, yes, Randon's Jack thebeginning. I think that the biggest issue
is that Raquel literally this season calledum Ariana one of her best friends.
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So I think that that's the biggestthing. Like people have been cheating on
each other and en up with randompeople, but this was like a I
think they're writing the script in theirhead. I think all the time,
Roquel's like, yeah, I'm gonnabutter her up. I'm gonna and you
know, and then even Tom I'mgonna dresses her for Halloween because at the
there's gonna be this reveal at theend. And you know, I'm saying,
I feel like there were things maybethey did in through the season,
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littered it with all this stuff tomake you think one thing and then all
of a sudden, boom explosion,it's now, I'm cheating on you with
your best friend. Well, theywere trying to make it seem all season
as if he was looking out forRoquell because he loved her as a friend
and as a little sister. WhenI mean in reality, they were sleeping
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together already. The producers know thatthey were sleeping together while that while they
were filming. They said that therewere little things that they picked up on,
but not necessarily. I mean,like I said, the way that
Ariana like has shut things down inthe past, even about them this past
season, like earlier on in theseason or towards the end, she like
was shutting everything down. So forthem, it's like, Okay, I
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guess we'll wait until it actually comesout because they didn't have like hard work.
Well, well, hold on,also, you know what there's so
many different angles to this Diamond.It drives me nuts because there's also the
angle that these producers also watched andhave heard that La La and Arianna got
it on in the back of theircar. Right, so if that's okay,
Hey, maybe these people want thislife. Let them put out what
they want. I think they geta free pass to be quite a right,
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and them saying yeah Tom and Tomand Arianna have made it very clear,
like Arianna came out as bisexual whileshe was with Tom, so clearly
we know that she's been like,you know, they do things. So
I don't know, hey, probablyfeel like, hey, listen, maybe
this is part of their thing.Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'll
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tell you something else. So alsoso like the overall fact that so I'll
tell you one thing about the showand then I just want to focus on
our count for a second. Wehave to Diamond's gotta go catch a Broadway
show here, so we gotta waithold out. So the overall, right,
no one on that show really doesown their own business, Like somehow,
some way the ship gets put offto other people and nobody kind of
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And I loved that Andy did thefirst thing, like the first reunion day,
he said, no one here isinnocent, like, let's just all
take a seatback, because he wasready to say that, you know,
and the fact that they all knewthis, right, and it's the fact
that the psychosis behind the cow.So here's the next thing, the psychosis
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behind the cow. In a pI sort of way, I will share
something. Many of my adultery cases, the infidelity cases, all those cases
always came back to something that wasso weird to man, I'll share it
with you. There was many times, not always, but many times that
there was some link behind the personthat was cheating and some relationship with the
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person. And it never seemed tofail that they would go to either a
restaurant that they would go to,let's say with their wife, but they
take their mistress to that restaurant duringthe time they're cheating, which you would
normally say, why why don't yousay the hell out of there, right,
Or there'd be something that they woreand they'd buy that same piece,
Oh God, put it on thatperson. Or there'd be like, when
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I tell you this, it hadcome up case after case and at the
end, okay, when you're donewith everything, you almost look back and
you go, oh my god,like that's some six stuff. So there
was something that came up about itthat said, if you're gonna do something
like that, right and you're playingthis role and it's your bff and Arianna
and you're making such a big dealout of it, you're talking to her
about her sex life, like allthese things were just so sick that it's
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almost like she was calcul These werecalculated decisions. That's when people have a
problem with this, right, Yeah, and it's self sabotage, all right,
So Diamond, some final comments onthat. I know you got a
roll because you gotta roll over tothe show. Do you think she's sabotaged
herself on purpose? Like that's herpersonality disorder? I think. I think
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I think that her issues are waydead deeper than anything that I you know,
like she I don't just the waythat she's handled the situation the aftermath
make me feel as if she justhonestly doesn't have a brain, like you
know, like and about that,and he clearly isn't that smart either,
(30:17):
So I think like she just ontop of maybe like a I'm not a
psycho, what is it a psychiatrist? I don't want to. But on
top of just like maybe a learningdisorder, I think that she's just dumb,
like she just she's and she's thinka great way to any wonderful publicly
(30:37):
say that her ex boyfriend talked somuch shit about her parents on National TV,
like saying some of the James saidabout her parents on National TV,
You're something is a wreck, youknow? So so I don't but wishing
her the best, diamond, thankyou so much for spending time with we.
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Ever, yeah, they said,next season is happening. All all
cast members have been asked to comeback. Oh really and they all agreed
to come back and wait wait waitthey did not. I was waiting to
see who lost their show? Ye, And so we'll see because um dal
Roquell is coming back. Come on, we'll see. Well, I'll tell
you what if it goes further andit gets juicy here, we're gonna have
(31:22):
you on for this and if weever talk about anything Reality TV, can
we tap into you? Is that? Okay? Are you kidding? She's
all things housewise? Need you,we need you, we need you,
Thank you. Bye. She's great. I told you. She doesn't disappoint
yer she's she's amazing, and shewas the perfect person of the fact that
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like these key things that like thelittle things, the tiny little things that
I took away from this, shelike was right on point with Because that's
that's what you want to hear.You want that fan that knows the show
to tell us our angle because scary, you know what, there is so
much out there today. If yougo on Instagram, there's just pages and
pages and pages. Yeah, wewanted a different perspective. I don't I
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have nothing, and I'm not gonnalie. I mean, I don't really
watch the show. I mean I'veseen a couple of pieces of episodes here
and there. I've seen some clipson YouTube. I've heard some sound and
things what we've talked about. I'veseen some articles. You see the articles
and a lot of opinions. SoI've learned and whatever my girlfriend tells me.
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You know it scary. The crazything is is to sum it up,
these reality shows, you put yourselfout there, you could imagine you
have to just expect anything. Imean, look, we expect anything in
entertainment. Our lives are an openbook. But the truth is is that
that's just even a that's that's alevel even to its own extat. Maybe
maybe Tom and Roquel are the aliensamong among us, going back to the
(32:52):
beginning of our podcast, maybe theyare the ones that are living amongst us.
I don't know. They say thatcould be all fictitious. Oh my
god. If you want to commenton anything, you want to say by
a portion give me okay, nowyou could finish all right, if you
If you want to get in touchwith us speaking volumes podcasting at gmail dot
(33:13):
com. That's a creepy looking doll. Oh my god, what's the name
of your Oh my god, thatdoll looks like really human. Maybe that's
an alien. Maybe there's an alienliving inside of that doll. Oh my
god. If you if you're listeningto this, there's they're holding a dollar
(33:35):
to the camera that looks like ahumanoid. You're gonna sing us out.
You're gonna sing us out, thankyou, poor Shepard. So, also,
fans out there, we'd love tohear what you have to say about
Vanderpump. If you want to sharesome of your stories or some of your
thoughts on it, or anybody fromVanderpump wants to share their thoughts, feel
free. Yes, and it's ofcourse goes. See share on her Facebook
(33:57):
page at Share Cascenza and on Instagramas well. All right, we'll see
you guys next time. On SpeakingVolumes Podcast, take care of now,
say bye Porsche Bye. From friendshipsto relationships to fashion and entertainment, it's
your one stop high speed pop culturepodcast. This is Speaking Volumes with Share and Scary
From friendships to relationships. It's afashion and entertainment It's your one stop high
speed pop culture podcast. This isSpeaking Volumes with Share and Scary. Oh
yes, we are back with anotheredition of Speaking Volumes Podcast. How are
you guys doing? Look at you? Number on? Do you want to
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take a guess? H twelve?I wish it's number eighty one of the
Speaking Volumes Podcast. I'm Scary Jones. That's Porsche. There's Share well sharing
Porsche. I got devoted, Igot to voted again. Last find my
daughter. I'm hopare with it.Okay, but let's just remember Speaking Volumes
(01:00):
with Sharon Scarty you know my otherpod, and Porsche, you know on
my other podcast, I fight withBrody for a lead title. It's like
it's like the running joke shocking.It's like with Scary. If you look
at the logo, it says it'swith Scary and Brodie Brooklyn boys with Scary
and Brodie. But he always BrodianScary. No, and a lot of
(01:23):
the some of the listeners, alot of does not yeah, And a
lot of listeners are like Brodian Scary, like whatever it is, you know,
And then it's like it's alphabetical.It's alphabetical. I'm like, I'm
always gonna lose because my name iswith an s now. First of all,
that is not why that is ridiculous. Yeah, Brodie's just trying to
(01:44):
throw around, like I don't know, maybe he like feels like the big
brother of the podcast. I don'tknow what he feels like. All I
could tell you is what it ishe feels he needs the seniority. Yeah,
he's like, listen, buddy,listen, it's Brodian scary. It's
okay, they're gonna call it's scaryand brody here. So now Porsche's with
us, And if you're listening tothis, she's making all kinds of noises,
(02:05):
it's because she's seeing her face inthe camera and she's she's mesmerized by
her all funny faces, sticking hertongue out. Listen, I gotta tell
you this kid lately is just sofunny. She's becoming this little comedian.
And the funnier her faces are orcrazier, the more she doesn't when I
(02:27):
tell her, like if I'm like, hey, Porsche, why are you
making that face while I'm trying totake a beautiful picture? She's like,
oh, let me do it more. So now I just don't comment on
it because I try. I hearthat. Wow, who Okay? All
right time in the meantime, I'llshare something with you. She's louder than
you by that, I can't hearyou. You gotta have the mic close.
The microphone needs ballet, Okay,can you hear me? Now?
(02:52):
Talk to me about ballet. SoPorsche's started ballet, okay, sure.
So we've taken some trial ballet classesbecause we're trying to pick which school we
want to participate with. And youknow, it's funny. One of the
creative moments in ballet for her isthey make you stand and they have you
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stand in first position and they're supposedto make a funny, silly face in
the mirror. So it's something thatI'm starting to realize is actually promoted even
when they're trying to develop these skills, because that's actually a skill. It
lets them express them. Yeah.So you know Porsche's expressing herself on our
podcast. I love it. Youknow, I just can't believe how everything
(03:37):
has changed since I went to school. Don't forget, I don't have kids,
so I don't have even a magicmirror view into what's going on.
But I hear, you know,I mean obviously things. I mean maybe
maybe not in Porsche's grade, butas they get older. Oh wait,
oh well she's not in a gradeyet. She's in zero now, she's
(04:00):
not school yet. Okay, okay, she's not. She's only four,
four years old. Yeah. Um, it's crazy to me because, um,
they don't they obviously they say crisscross apple sauce when they want to
cross their legs or pretzel up.That's been for a few years now.
They don't. They don't. Theydefinitely do that in one of her Mommy
(04:21):
and Me classes that we take,because they don't cross apple sauce. We
used to say something that I guessis completely offensive these days. What did
we say? We sit Indian style, that's how because it was cross in
a circle. But yes, porrisclass apple sauce. No crislas. Okay,
(04:47):
there you go. No what aboutI love it. By the way,
our friend Diamond from The Big ShowI was to Ran Morning Show is
going to join us in a minute. Nat. Well we'll see. I
saw I saw the screen make aweird fee for a second. Well,
there's a big listen, there's agood reason why we have Diamond joining us
(05:08):
set. Diamond is the authority onall things vander Pump Rules and all things
Housewives and all things Bravo and AndyCohen. So which means we're going to
be bringing her back because we'll havea little bit more on some Bravo stuff
that we've been collecting. But obviouslywe want to talk really quick start our
podcast with finding out Scary. What'sbeen new with you? Anything, anything,
(05:29):
anything on your mind? Is thereanything on Scary Jones's mind? Yeah,
Well, I kind of freaked outlast weekend. My girlfriend made me
watch um as a marathon on theHistory Channel. It's called Ancient Aliens,
and it basically tells you that alienswe are nothing more than a laboratory experiment
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for aliens. That's pretty much thecrux of the show. We are here
on Earth, wow, and alienshave been with us since the beginning of
time. In fact, if youfeed into some of this stuff like the
Great Pyramids and all these wonders ofthe world, where you realize that it
had to have been made by aliens, If you look at hieroglyphics in the
(06:14):
caves, if you look at pictures. There's always in these old there's pictures
of UFOs in them, meaning thatbehind everything, no, meaning like they
have these they've seen alien sightings andthey've been down to Earth all those years
(06:34):
ago in the fifteen hundreds. Becausethey're in their drawings, they're in their
scriptures. There is all kinds ofall kinds of like proof that aliens have
been down here and that we arenot alone in this universe. Now,
I know I'm talking like a freakall of a sudden, but watch you're
(06:55):
not. But hold on. Ifyou watch those shows, yeah, it
can really bring you into another lighton what's happening in the world. Twig
broken down, twinkle, twinkle,broken down car? Is that how the
nursery rhyme goes? Yeah? Um, anyway, wait a second, so
hold on, though about your yourshow that you watch, The Robin had
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you watch? I will tell youI think it's great she had you watch
that, because those shows break thingsdown to where you go, wait a
second, it's plausible. What isit? What is it that really are
they trying to say to us,and the fact that we're actually like an
experiment. Then yeah, that almostbut they're not saying they're angry. They're
(07:38):
saying that they're they're saying that ifthat they're friendly, you know, and
that nothing bad, no, basicallyyeah, and that that if they wanted
to destroy us, they could havedone it years ago. But almost like
almost like people that are still likesearching to find out if it's real and
it's there, like wake up,yes it is. Well, there's more
UFO sighting, more and more ufsightings. Just just the other day a
(08:01):
couple in Vegas saw a UFO.Um. They're saying, there's remains of
UFOs and all the like, andthe government is no longer hell bent against
it anymore, so we must knowsomething. Yeah. But that's interesting too
because it's a long time that wasso taboo. You can't talk about it,
(08:22):
don't talk about it talking. I'msaying no, for the longest time.
You're right, right exactly, itwas just taboo. Yeah. But
the fact that now they're coming outits show is on so many things scary
that they never let out just showsyou how entertainment has taken a new leap,
Like twenty twenty three, it's thesame and poor singing to she may
(08:46):
be programmed by an alien right now? Who knows you're programmed by an alien.
They're saying that there's okay, dying, no talk. Oh yeah the
dinopeas do you understand that? Now? Hey listen, so listen, we
have we're running out of time,unfortunately because we have let me get back
(09:09):
to why we were talking about youryour moment for a second. We'll go
I'll tell you my ten minutes ofnuances when we come back on. Because
having Diamond on today was a bigdeal because they think you and I were
talking about something in the news recentlycame out today, right, What was
it that we were talking about?Bill Murray thing? Yeah, Bill Murray
(09:31):
legendary actor, seventy two years old, dating Calise the one hit wonder My
Milkshake Brings all the Boys to theyard she's forty three. Yeah, And
and people are like, what thiscame out of nowhere? Like how did
these two meet? What are theyhave in common? And why is this
a headline? So here's the thingthough, that's exactly it a headline.
(09:54):
So let's just talk about, likewe were just talking about entertainment and how
the news shows are out there intwenty twenty three and things changed, So
let's just bring it to speed withreality, the reality series and what has
actually happened and how things like theBill Murray news story. Sure, okay
is like top dial, right.So the reason why, the reason why
(10:15):
wait, let me just disconnect Porsche, hang on a second, go grab
your The reason why is because obviouslypeople see the fame that comes out of
publicizing all this stuff. Now,that's nothing new, but the amount of
exposure you get is something that canreally be overwhelming at times. And one
of the things that's been completely overwhelmingfor weeks has been this story through vander
(10:41):
Pump. Correct. Yes, thatis correct, and that's why since the
finale happened, if the third onecame out, we wanted to have an
episode today and kind of just rehashgiven opinion, a little share nos,
and some diamond on what happened andwhat is is really about. It's too
large to ignore the whole vander Pumpscandal. As you know, Arianna met
(11:01):
Arianna Mattox and Tom Sandoval if youif you don't follow, they've been dating
for like eight or nine years.But Arianna sweet as apple pie, the
good girl, and then you gotTom, who we thought was awesome and
faithful, only to come to findout that he's been sleeping with Roquel,
her best friend, for like sevenmonths. Well we're gonna anyway. So
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after they finished filming the season andthis all came out because keep in mind,
you know, the show has beenaround for ten years now with Lisa
Vander prom and it was it startedstrong, then there was this lull where
no one talked about it, butin the last couple of months it wrapped
up again because of the scandival withTom Finally so and then they recently had
(11:48):
a three part, three week ina row talk about Milking It reunion where
all of them got together after thetaping and more secrets were revealed on these
during these three reunion shows. Soto make sense if it, Diamond has
been there forever and she's she's gladshe has because I haven't. But let
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me tell you what I've taken fromthis whole thing. I would love to
hear her thoughts on because there isa different angle I want to hit on
this. It's not just let's rehashit, let's let's think about this for
a second. What is really goingon exactly? And Diamond is a part
of Elvis durand The Morning show.She's on with us every single morning,
and she's basically answered our phones.She's she does so much more than that.
(12:33):
She's she's one of our producers whodo so much in the background and
is a rising star, and she'sa giant all things reality junkie. So
I thought I saw her try andpipe in there. Let's see. Oh,
here it is here she comes there. Oh, I believe she is
boom. Can you see me?Can you hear me? I just want
(12:56):
to make sure. Yeah, absolutelyhas everything we can I can see and
hear you. Hi Diamond, Hi, how are you good? Thanks for
joining us. So Sharon has amillion questions about she Well, that's Porsha
by the way, her daughter.That's Porsha. Yeah, Porsha say So
this is the Speaking Volumes podcast.We talk about a lot of pop culture
(13:20):
things we don't usually touch on vanderPump in fact, we know, let's
be honest, we never do.But share was sucked in and you know,
from a legal perspective, about amonth or two ago when the whole
scand of all thing happened. Andthen she's been watching religiously every week.
She watched the reunion show weeks soshe's got questions, but I said,
you know better than me. Imean, I just see a couple of
(13:43):
cliff notes versions, watch a coupleof YouTube clips, and see what my
girlfriend has to tell me about it. Diamonds is the one. No,
I need you because literally, letme tell you something. He's right.
Originally, I was going on thelegal aspect here because I heard that they
were slapped with their stranding order andthis and that, and I'm like,
how many of these reality shows probablyhave this happen and their big dog attorneys
(14:03):
get in and say, yo,you guys got to drop this because we
have a show to do. Andif you want your fifty grand by the
end for this and you want yourmoney for that endorsement, everybody better get
along. I don't care about thedrama, but no illegal stuff. So
I was waiting to do something onthat, and then I figured out that
that had so many other layers too, and I was like, oh,
let's just talk layers. Let's waittill the end. Where do we begin?
(14:28):
Because I'm ready go for it.Well, just well, why don't
you talk about the reunion show?I just gave them an overview? Okay
something, okay, are you ready, hold on, I'm scary. I'm
gonna give her some buzzes. Okay. So I have some things that I
took away from the reunion. I'mgonna throw them out at you and let
you just go. You're ready,okay? So raqual my actions are human.
(14:52):
I was a people pleaser, andnow I'm pleasing myself. You know,
like she's deluded, right, Like, now you're pleasing yourself. So
to make yourself happy, you're gonnasleep with your best friend's boyfriend. Are
you crazy? But then at theexpense of others? Yeah, I'm self
(15:13):
happy. So that's what we shouldall be doing, right, Diamond,
at the expense of others? Howcan I make myself happy in this world?
I mean, I mean a lotof people do it already, but
like how crappy the world would be? People that on the everyday basis,
Oh, okay, are you crazy? She's a lunatic. Then people are
saying that they feel bad for herthese days, like oh I felt bad,
(15:33):
I understand, but no, sorry, no, no, we're not
just talking about a regular mistress here. So let me ask you something else
and then and then I have likeanother one for you. But didn't you
feel like the last episode, okay, when she finally was allowed in because
Shana get got taken away. Ye, didn't you feel like her demeanor was
(15:54):
almost not what you'd want her tohave, Like if you decided to lay
in this bed and you made thissaid you lay in it type attitude,
because that's where I come from.I'm a total I'm the actress PI.
Okay, So when I look withmy PI blindfolds over here and I look
through this light, I go likethis. I go, okay, you
did this, deal with it.Let stand up for yourself a little bit.
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At this point, I found herdemeanor to be so strange because it
was almost like I'm just really sorryand I don't know what to say,
and I'm so ashamed of myself.That's fine, fine, you're human if
that's really what you want to comeout and say. But there's got to
be a party of you that sayssomething a little more confident. Right.
There's no confidence behind any of that, And it's kind of shocking. Did
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you see that Andy said somewhere thispast week that he felt like she was
on medication, because maybe that's whatit was. Listen, I don't know
how she could defend herself with this. I really, I mean, what
were you going to say? Andalso, let's let's talk about the fact
that apparently this guy, uh Sandoval, because we'll get her. Yeah,
(17:04):
so he probably saga, maybe thatwas it. Maybe that's why your demeanor
just seemed so like it just wastoo strange. And I do agree maybe
it was at medication thing. Right, Do you think that? I believe
it? Once he said it,I'm like, does that makes sense?
Um? But I also think thatwe're dealing with someone who's just not all
there anyway, whatever capacity it is. Maybe like the way that she communicates
(17:29):
is weird like that, So Ithink that's who she is. But I'm
like, to what extent do youthink this is for the show? Right?
Meaning like that, Okay, youknow what we're all we've all come
to grips with the fact that we'vebeen doing this show for all these years.
I'm going to do some outrageous thingsand and and and all no holds
(17:51):
barred. And I know we're dealingwith real relationships because because Tom and Arianam
were going out for all these years, Yes, but to what extent do
they lean into it? Now?That's like, well, it's out there
now, so I'm just going forit. Well. The thing, the
thing about it that made everyone wholike has watched for all these years so
disgusted is the fact that in thisentire season, the two of them basically
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you find out at the end thatthe two of them were like pushing a
specific narrative all season, and youlike it was to cover up their their
affair, which makes it even worse. They like brought in Um Schwartz,
his best friend recently, Yes,the one that so Raquel kisses him even
(18:37):
x oh he knows just scary doyou know this? Did I know about
this? I know about now?And then and then all about him carrying
her on Halloween? Tom Sandoval,right, no, no wrong thing.
So he dressed like her, right, like Raquel for Halloween? Right,
yes, the weirdest thing on theplanet. But anyway, he so she
(18:57):
made out with his best friend,Tom, the other Tom, yes,
yes, who's going through a divorcewith Katie, who's also a friend of
the group. They had a basicallyan understanding just don't hook up with anybody
in the friend group. They doit, they they Sheep makes out with
him and it can't That was likethe big thing of the season. We
(19:18):
find we thought you thought it wasthe big thing of this. We thought
it was the big thing of theseason. You find out that it was
just all like, you know,they conspired with each other to do this.
It's disgusting. That's what makes iteven worse. I am disgusted.
So so the fans are felt thefans feel had at the end of this,
(19:41):
Do they feel like that, like, because I'm I'm thinking, like,
do they feel the producers um areinstigators? And they didn't. There
were some key things that they didn'tlet let their own cast in on that
they probably should have been said.Um, I think if in thing I
felt had by the teasing of whatthe grand discovery was going to be at
(20:07):
the very end of part three,which was it was just the fact that
the timeline was longer than everyone,right, and it was seven months long,
and people were like, what itwas going on all this time?
It wasn't just a week? Wellyou know yeah? And the other thing,
right, Diamond. The other problemwas was when they did that little
recap at the end, it wasalmost like here, everybody that was really
(20:29):
engaged in it is sitting here watchingthese three episodes right at the end,
and then you get to the finale, you hear Raquel finally come out,
because that's what everybody's waiting for,it to see Rachel come out and talk
right, And then you get thisblurb after that that's basically saying that she
lied while she was on the stage, just telling everybody the story because she
did have sex in their house andshe did what do you call it,
(20:52):
have sex in Mexico with him waswhen they were in Mexico. Wait a
second, how did that happen whenTom was with Arianna there? That's what
That's what makes me have a lotmore questions about their relationship as a whole
anyway, which leads me to believethat maybe everybody's looking the other way because
this is going to be some greatTV. I think in the other way
(21:15):
because she's defended him so much overthe years. There's he's had more than
one cheating accusation thrown at him orthem as a couple or whatever, um,
and she's defended him. So Ithink that like she felt like,
well, if anyone has questions,we'll figure it out. But we're going
to discuss this amongst ourselves and notpublicly. But I think that this was
(21:37):
just too much for her to handle. I mean, this was this was
way too much. Here, I'llgive you another one that Tom said,
we don't live our lives by logic. He's crazy, And you know,
I don't know what I thought.The Howie Mandel interview was enough for me,
Like I was done with him afterthat because it was like, you're
(22:00):
clearly lying, like he believes thenarratives that he's come up with her.
Yeah, and it's scary. I'mlike, lalla freaking out on him.
I yeah, what's the deal withthat? So can we talk about that
for a second, because that's anotherthing I wanted to talk to you about.
So it just seemed to me like, first of all, there seemed
obviously it was disgusting because then whenyou look back at the episodes, you
(22:21):
see all the things that you wouldhave hoped Para would have picked up on,
right, But everybody played this likevictim role for her, or she
played this victim role and everybody ateinto it, like you know, she's
the person that you know, itis kind of just getting targeted and looked
at like that. We've all beenthere, So let's just you know,
not join the gang and gang upon her. But then there was this
whole thing with Lala who and Jamesthey were like on fire. So that's
(22:47):
something that Scary and I were talkingabout for like a brief moment, right,
And Scary's angle, obviously is onthe TV side of what's actually being
done for the ratings. Do youthink at that point Lalla and James are
just going in to town because theyjust want the attention because everybody seems to
be attention grappers on the show.Um, okay. So James, I
completely understand why he feels the waythat he does and why he's acting out
(23:11):
the way that he is, eventhough it's very immature. He was engaged
to rock Hill, and Tom helpedpay for the engagement, like he helped
pay for like the extravagant way thathe um proposed to her. Also,
there are rumors they didn't acknowledge thisor whatever, but there are rumors that
they slept together when she and Jameswere still together. Oh my god,
(23:33):
it's so incestuous. Yeah. Sothe thing I can't I don't know if
it's actually true, but I wouldn'tbe surprised if I got a question why
do people like Sheena and La Lahave to make it their business too when
they got really nothing to do withthis. Okay, so Sheina was caught
(23:53):
in the middle. I do Understandinawent back and forth with Katie all season
about the fact the Roquel, Imean not Roquel. Yeah, Roquel was
such a good person and oh youlike let them live. When when when
Schwartzen m Roquel with each other orwhatever, she was like team Roquel.
She was going so hard, solike she not feel like you made me
(24:17):
look stupid? You know, Ithink that's how it feels. You made
me look dumb. She said thatshe's even let Roquel sleep in the bed
with her and her husband, likeshe really trusted her. She paid for
this girl to like, since shepaid to set her apartment up somewhere.
I think that it's just like they'reall a really close group of friends.
I think a lot of them havegotten way closer since. Like I took
a break from watching. So Iwas shocked too. But whatever, um
(24:41):
La La You know, La Lawas demonized in the past few seasons.
She so, I feel like thiswas her Like she felt vindicated because this
was her way to come out andsay yeah, see I'm not I'm not
the crazy one, and she calledthe mistress and she she ended up finding
out that she was a mistress,Like she was dating a guy who was
(25:03):
married or whatever. But her thingwas, I was being lied to.
You knew what you were doing yourfriends with his girlfriend. So I just
think it's a bunch of a lotof egos in the building, and they
were cast for these roles based ontheir personalities, so a combustible moment like
this was bound to happen at somepoint during the show with all the people
(25:27):
like living on top of each otherand mixing character. It's all I mean,
because these are they were cast forthis show for this reason, to
create drama, and finally, afterten seasons, Andy Cohen and Bravo are
like, yes, Randon's Jack thebeginning. I think that the biggest issue
is that Raquel literally this season calledum Ariana one of her best friends.
(25:53):
So I think that that's the biggestthing. Like people have been cheating on
each other and en up with randompeople, but this was like a I
think they're writing the script in theirhead. I think all the time,
Roquel's like, yeah, I'm gonnabutter her up. I'm gonna and you
know, and then even Tom I'mgonna dresses her for Halloween because at the
there's gonna be this reveal at theend. And you know, I'm saying,
I feel like there were things maybethey did in through the season,
(26:15):
littered it with all this stuff tomake you think one thing and then all
of a sudden, boom explosion,it's now, I'm cheating on you with
your best friend. Well, theywere trying to make it seem all season
as if he was looking out forRoquell because he loved her as a friend
and as a little sister. WhenI mean in reality, they were sleeping
(26:37):
together already. The producers know thatthey were sleeping together while that while they
were filming. They said that therewere little things that they picked up on,
but not necessarily. I mean,like I said, the way that
Ariana like has shut things down inthe past, even about them this past
season, like earlier on in theseason or towards the end, she like
was shutting everything down. So forthem, it's like, Okay, I
(27:00):
guess we'll wait until it actually comesout because they didn't have like hard work.
Well, well, hold on,also, you know what there's so
many different angles to this Diamond.It drives me nuts because there's also the
angle that these producers also watched andhave heard that La La and Arianna got
it on in the back of theircar. Right, so if that's okay,
Hey, maybe these people want thislife. Let them put out what
they want. I think they geta free pass to be quite a right,
(27:22):
and them saying yeah Tom and Tomand Arianna have made it very clear,
like Arianna came out as bisexual whileshe was with Tom, so clearly
we know that she's been like,you know, they do things. So
I don't know, hey, probablyfeel like, hey, listen, maybe
this is part of their thing.Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'll
(27:42):
tell you something else. So alsoso like the overall fact that so I'll
tell you one thing about the showand then I just want to focus on
our count for a second. Wehave to Diamond's gotta go catch a Broadway
show here, so we gotta waithold out. So the overall, right,
no one on that show really doesown their own business, Like somehow,
some way the ship gets put offto other people and nobody kind of
(28:04):
And I loved that Andy did thefirst thing, like the first reunion day,
he said, no one here isinnocent, like, let's just all
take a seatback, because he wasready to say that, you know,
and the fact that they all knewthis, right, and it's the fact
that the psychosis behind the cow.So here's the next thing, the psychosis
(28:25):
behind the cow. In a pI sort of way, I will share
something. Many of my adultery cases, the infidelity cases, all those cases
always came back to something that wasso weird to man, I'll share it
with you. There was many times, not always, but many times that
there was some link behind the personthat was cheating and some relationship with the
(28:47):
person. And it never seemed tofail that they would go to either a
restaurant that they would go to,let's say with their wife, but they
take their mistress to that restaurant duringthe time they're cheating, which you would
normally say, why why don't yousay the hell out of there, right,
Or there'd be something that they woreand they'd buy that same piece,
Oh God, put it on thatperson. Or there'd be like, when
(29:10):
I tell you this, it hadcome up case after case and at the
end, okay, when you're donewith everything, you almost look back and
you go, oh my god,like that's some six stuff. So there
was something that came up about itthat said, if you're gonna do something
like that, right and you're playingthis role and it's your bff and Arianna
and you're making such a big dealout of it, you're talking to her
about her sex life, like allthese things were just so sick that it's
(29:33):
almost like she was calcul These werecalculated decisions. That's when people have a
problem with this, right, Yeah, and it's self sabotage, all right,
So Diamond, some final comments onthat. I know you got a
roll because you gotta roll over tothe show. Do you think she's sabotaged
herself on purpose? Like that's herpersonality disorder? I think. I think
(29:53):
I think that her issues are waydead deeper than anything that I you know,
like she I don't just the waythat she's handled the situation the aftermath
make me feel as if she justhonestly doesn't have a brain, like you
know, like and about that,and he clearly isn't that smart either,
(30:17):
So I think like she just ontop of maybe like a I'm not a
psycho, what is it a psychiatrist? I don't want to. But on
top of just like maybe a learningdisorder, I think that she's just dumb,
like she just she's and she's thinka great way to any wonderful publicly
(30:37):
say that her ex boyfriend talked somuch shit about her parents on National TV,
like saying some of the James saidabout her parents on National TV,
You're something is a wreck, youknow? So so I don't but wishing
her the best, diamond, thankyou so much for spending time with we.
(31:00):
Ever, yeah, they said,next season is happening. All all
cast members have been asked to comeback. Oh really and they all agreed
to come back and wait wait waitthey did not. I was waiting to
see who lost their show? Ye, And so we'll see because um dal
Roquell is coming back. Come on, we'll see. Well, I'll tell
you what if it goes further andit gets juicy here, we're gonna have
(31:22):
you on for this and if weever talk about anything Reality TV, can
we tap into you? Is that? Okay? Are you kidding? She's
all things housewise? Need you,we need you, we need you,
Thank you. Bye. She's great. I told you. She doesn't disappoint
yer she's she's amazing, and shewas the perfect person of the fact that
(31:45):
like these key things that like thelittle things, the tiny little things that
I took away from this, shelike was right on point with Because that's
that's what you want to hear.You want that fan that knows the show
to tell us our angle because scary, you know what, there is so
much out there today. If yougo on Instagram, there's just pages and
pages and pages. Yeah, wewanted a different perspective. I don't I
(32:07):
have nothing, and I'm not gonnalie. I mean, I don't really
watch the show. I mean I'veseen a couple of pieces of episodes here
and there. I've seen some clipson YouTube. I've heard some sound and
things what we've talked about. I'veseen some articles. You see the articles
and a lot of opinions. SoI've learned and whatever my girlfriend tells me.
(32:30):
You know it scary. The crazything is is to sum it up,
these reality shows, you put yourselfout there, you could imagine you
have to just expect anything. Imean, look, we expect anything in
entertainment. Our lives are an openbook. But the truth is is that
that's just even a that's that's alevel even to its own extat. Maybe
maybe Tom and Roquel are the aliensamong among us, going back to the
(32:52):
beginning of our podcast, maybe theyare the ones that are living amongst us.
I don't know. They say thatcould be all fictitious. Oh my
god. If you want to commenton anything, you want to say by
a portion give me okay, nowyou could finish all right, if you
If you want to get in touchwith us speaking volumes podcasting at gmail dot
(33:13):
com. That's a creepy looking doll. Oh my god, what's the name
of your Oh my god, thatdoll looks like really human. Maybe that's
an alien. Maybe there's an alienliving inside of that doll. Oh my
god. If you if you're listeningto this, there's they're holding a dollar
(33:35):
to the camera that looks like ahumanoid. You're gonna sing us out.
You're gonna sing us out, thankyou, poor Shepard. So, also,
fans out there, we'd love tohear what you have to say about
Vanderpump. If you want to sharesome of your stories or some of your
thoughts on it, or anybody fromVanderpump wants to share their thoughts, feel
free. Yes, and it's ofcourse goes. See share on her Facebook
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page at Share Cascenza and on Instagramas well. All right, we'll see
you guys next time. On SpeakingVolumes Podcast, take care of now,
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