TAKE OUT IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES NOW!

TAKE OUT IRANIAN NUCLEAR FACILITIES NOW!

SPECIAL GUEST: IRAN EXPERT KEN TIMMERMAN

Episode Transcript

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This is Special Prosecutor Larry Clayman.I'm the only lawyer ever to obtain a
court ruling that a president of theUnited States committed a crime for truth for
competition. As a young lawyer,I helped break up AT and T.
That's why you have all your cellphones today. For sovereignty, for the
Republic. I'm the guy who,at Judicial Watch, which I founded,
uncovered the China Gate scandal. Millionsof dollars going to the Clinton campaign corrupting

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our political system were the privacy ofcitizens. And I'm the only guy who
have enjoyed the National Security Agency frommass surveillance and hundreds of millions of Americans
hearing it. I'm the son ofmeat packers in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I
know had a slice in diet,bringing it that we're going to take this
country apart and put it back togetheragain in the way envisioned by our founding
fathers. It's not just we're notjust regurgitating new stories, Larry claiman Special

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Prosecutor is making the news, andnow here's Larry. Welcome to this week's
edition of Special Prosecutor with Larry Klaiman. Many things happening, obviously that we're
doing here at Freedom Watch and justin the world in general. We're gonna
have a very special guest on laterin this show, Ken Timmerman, an

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expert on Iran, a friend ofmine, and let me start with Iran.
Is that we see what's going onwith the Middle East right now.
The Hoodies shutting down the Red Sea, shutting down the Persian Gulf, Iran
hijacking an American oil tanker and forcingit back to Iran. We are on
the verge of a larger war there. But the reason we're on the verge

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of that larger war is because ourbrain dead criminal president Joe Biden has been
very, very weak, and theysee this. So you talk about the
hoodies, who are the hooties soto speak. They're just you know,
two bit agents of the Iranian regime. And I've been saying over and over
again it's time that we take outthat Iranian regime. Now I'm listening to

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you know, Senator Lindsey Graham.Oh, let's bomb some oil depots or
whatever they want. That's not enough. They've got nuclear weapons. You bomb
the nucletar sites, You take outthe Iranian Revolutionary Guard, you take out
the Supreme Leader, and then yougo to Qatar and you have the Israelis.
Do it, you take out theleaders of a moss We have to
do this surgically. You know,if you have cancer, you don't mess

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around. You go in there,you take it all out, you quartorize
it, you remove it. Andnow is the time to do it because
Iran presumably does not have nuclear weapons. I think they may have one or
two, but we can handle that. And it's a wider war already.
You're seeing gas prices go up andother prices go up. And notwithstanding the
geopolitical considerations of shutting down the trafficin these key areas of the world where

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ships now have to go around CapeHorn in An, Africa to get to
their destination, this is harming worldtrade. So this is something I want
to discuss with Ken when he comeson. We have worked together in the
past. I have brought lawsuits againstthe Supreme Leader, against Iran, against
the Revolutionary Guard, for clients thatI had who were killed at a bond

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prison, one of them at Barmelhamedi, who was the first student leader in
modern history to call for regime change. He was imprisoned. He was tortured
and his brother manager. We hada case a number of years ago and
Ken testified along with the CIA director, the former CI director in that case.
That case, it's a long story, and we'll deal with it another

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show. But this is what we'redealing with here. We're dealing here with
a threat to the United States.The Iranians are very, very sophisticated,
but God forbid they ever get anuclear weapon, and now is the time
to take care of it. Now. Let's also talking about Donald Trump and
his experience in New York this week. The judge obviously I didn't want them

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to speak. This is his fraudtrial. He got up there, he
said a few words. Anyway,this is exemplary, and this is why
it's important. It's not just Trump. Whether in the end he has fined
four hundred million and some four hundredmillion dollars plus and shut down to do
business in New York, that's theleast of it. That's the least of
the questions that are issued there.This tells you something about our legal system

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today, and there are many otherexamples of it. The travesty of a
mockery of a sham of two travestiesof a mockery of the sham and the
words of Witty Allen as I alwayssays, there is no justice anymore in
the courts in a political context.There's no justice with bar associations in DC
or New York that are trying toeliminate conservative lawyers in the practice of law,

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including yours. Truly, I've beenfighting them for years. They won't
succeed, but they're going after everybody. Trump and everyone else in the legal
system is being turned on his head. And it's perverted because primarily anybody who
supported Donald Trump or thinks even kindlyof him, who's a conservative activist,
is going to be targeted. Butit also tells you about the legal system.

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This judge thinks he can get awaywhatever he wants to do. And
even before this trial began, heissued a judgment that Trump and his sons
had committed fraud as well as theTrump organization didn't even give him a trial,
you know. And then you goover and you see what's happening in
the District of Columbia with regard toJ six and these judges, whether they're

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Democrat or Republican appointees, whether theywere appointed by Clinton or Obama or George
W. Bush or now Biden andof course Trump. They're all the same.
They're establishment judges and they want tocrush anyone who would ever challenge the
establishment. So even the peaceful protesters, and we represent several of them.

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I also have a class action inthe U. S. District Court for
the Northern District of Florida that's goingon right now. We speak over illegal
surveillance, which could wind up throwingout all the prosecutions and all the convictions
if we're successful. The government hasbeen forced to admit that they were illegally
surveilling January sixth protesters, gathering evidenceto use against them. And now we

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find out that the Justice Department isn'teven stopping with those who were at the
capital that fateful day. Anyone whocommunicated with anyone who was at the capital
now is being hunted down, subjectto investigation and potential indictment. Now why
is that? Because we're going intoan election season, and of course the

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Democrats and the Biden regime don't wantanyone to rise up. They want to
keep people down. They want tokeep criticism to an absolute minimum. They
don't want anyone like a Larry Kleimanor anyone else to be able to challenge
them. And consequently, this isa reign of terror that is being voiced
on the American people to shut usup in a virtual dictatorship. And then,

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of course you have the brain deadcriminal president Joe Biden and his druggie
criminal son and his criminal brother whoare being exposed as the crime family and
the complete criminals. They are perhapsthe biggest criminals in the history of this
country in terms of anyone who occupiedthe Oval office. Biden gives a speech

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this week telling everyone that Trump isevil, He's the equivalent of Adolf Hitler.
People that were January sixth are likethe Nazis. This is his only
argument to try to retain the presidency. And of course why does he want
to retain the presidency primarily because thatway he controls the Justice Department, and

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in that way he assures that hewon't be prosecuted, that his son Hunter
will be let off the hook forhis tax evasion and everything else with a
slap on the wrist, and hisbrother and the rest of his family will
go free, including his lovely wifeJill, who of course is a co
conspirator in all of this, andshe's benefited from the tens of nine hundreds
of million dollars that have been launderedthrough to the Biden crime family from communists

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trying to Russia, Ukraine and elsewhere. So all of this is related.
And you've got a situation here inthis country where the American people are lied
to on a continual basis. Andwho is one of the biggest liars in
American history, Doctor Falci that wewould call him doctor Mangolo. And this

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week he was in the news.He was forced to admit that, in
fact, the social distancing that occurredin all the masks in quarantining during the
period of the pandemic, which isstill going on, by the way that
he made that all up, therewas no scientific evidence to do that.
Armed kids in terms of their education, armed business, armed everyone, and
yet didn't prevent COVID nineteen. Healso pushed vaccines which were dangerous. We

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know they're dangerous now anybody that takesthem as living in a different world.
And faucis still out in the loose. Now, what has we done at
Freedom Watches? And this is whyI need your help, because we have
started our own system of justice becausewe don't have justice with our alleged government,
our corrupt government. We indicted Bidenfor a briberry from communist Ukraine.

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In Russia. We tried him,we convicted him, We got a sentence
of twenty years. We tried Faucithe same way, we got a sentence
of life. These sentences need tobe carried out. And we are petitioning
law enforcement all around the country,sheriffs and police chiefs. Because the new
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, wouldn't send over the Capitol Police to

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arrest them, we petitioned him todo. It tells you something about Mike
Johnson presents a nice image, niceguy that he's no different than Kevin McCarthy
and the rest of the clowns onCapitol Hill. Now talk about the clowns
on Capitol Hill. We saw apublicity stunt earlier in this week Biden.
One of the committees run by JamesComer was going to hold Hunter Biden in

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contempt for not showing up for hisdeposition behind closed doors. That was going
to be a vote out of thecommittee. It ultimately did get voted out
of the committee, but Hunter Biden'slawyer Abby Lowell, who I call Abbey
Normal, shows up with Hunter Bidenand offers to testify. Of course,
Hunter Biden didn't want to testify.I'd have to take the Fifth Amendment.

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He's got two criminal charges against him. But they make a monkey out of
the Republicans and they get there andthey say, Okay, we're willing to
testify. We're willing to do whateveryou want. And they knew that the
Republicans wouldn't take them up on theoffer. In fact, the only Republican
congressman that had any guts was NancyMace, who, there was some humor
to it, suggested that Hunter Bidenbe arrested on the spot. Not a

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bad idea, but that was notgoing to happen. The Republicans are for
show, they're not for Doe.So you've got this evil force on the
left with Biden, that criminal rubberstamping with the socialists, the communists and
the atheists and other radical ideologies wantand you got a Republican party that does
things for show, promising that they'regoing to impeach Biden, promising they're going

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to impeach the Secretary of Homeland Securitymajorc is. They have no intention.
It's all basically political and it's meantto weaken Biden going into the election in
twenty twenty four. And lo andbehold, if the Republicans win, what
are you going to get? You'regoing to get the same thing you got
last time. They'll do nothing.And even if Trump wins, you know,

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and you know, I have alwaysbeen support of Trump in my personal
capacity, what are you going toget there? He's not even charge.
The deep state will be in charge. They tried to destroy him. The
president is simply a figurehead. Soit's time for me, we the American
people, to rise up and doit for ourselves. Go to freedom Watch
USA dot org. Contribute to ourcause with tax deductible contributions. We are

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your real justice department. You haveno justice department. We need to return
the rule of law to this countryand everyone needs to be held to account.
I'll be back in just a littlebit with Ken Timmerman. Listen carefully
to what he has to say aboutIran, because it's just the tip of
the iceberg in the way our internationalscene is going to explode. We're already
in World War three, and Godforbid, we don't take strong action.

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Now we're going to be in anuclear holocaust. Stay tuned. In the
meantime, they're to freedom Watch USAdot org and contribute to our cause with
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Fearless, Democratic Danger Special Prosecutor LarryClaiming. If you'd like to support freedom
Watch and radio show, go toFREEDOMWATCHUSA dot org. I'm very happy and
proud to have my friend and colleagueand comrade at arms, Ken Timmerman on

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the show. He is an experton Iran. He's an expert, you
know, an international matters in particular. He has a story maybe you could
tell a little bit about it inyour in this first episode, how you
were actually a hostage at one pointin the Middle East, so you've got
that experience too. But I wantto get Ken's take on what's going on
with Iran right now and the hoodieswho are the hooties as I say,

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and Ken can give you a reallyclear perspective on the risk that Iron poses
to the United States. Of course, we've been focusing only on the periphery
with the so called surrogates of Iran. So anyway, I want to turn
it over to Ken talk us alittle bit about how you were a hostage,
and then then we'll get into howwe deal with Iran in your opinion.

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Well, thanks for having me on, Larry. It's a pleasure to
see your face and to be herewith you. You know, I've been
I've been reporting on and from theMiddle East as a war correspondent and investigative
reporter for nearly forty years, wellforty years. I was taking hostage in
eighty two in the Israeli war againstthe PLO, one of the early Israeli

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wars against the FATA and the PLOin Lebanon, and I was captured by
I tell that in my book andthe rest is history, Tales of hostages,
arms dealers, dirty tricks and spies, And you can find out more
about that at my website Ken Timmermandot com. But I keep going back.
I was in Israel just about sixweeks ago after the Hamas massacres in

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those southern communities along the gas ofborder, and I must say the stories
that you hear from the former hostagesare just heartbreaking, especially the stories that
we heard from medical personnel who wereexamining children because the children obviously are not
going to talk to the media.They shouldn't be talking to the media.
But they talked to the doctors.And these children, you know, ten

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years old, eleven years old,twelve years old, who were beaten by
crowds when they were brought back toGaza, kept in solitary confinement, in
rooms where everybody was hostile to them, where armed men were telling these ten
year olds eleven years old, twelveyear olds, don't speak, don't speak,
don't speak, and threatening to beatthem all the time. They were

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still speaking in whispers after they'd beenback in Israel for two weeks. That's
how traumatic the experience was. Soyou hear these stories, Larry, and
it's just, you know, itbreaks your heart on the one hand,
and on the other hand, youunderstand the resolve of all these families in
Israel who have loved ones. Youhave sons and daughters, in most cases,
husbands and wives at the front whowere fighting. They're fighting a righteous

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cause. Well, you know,it is a real tragedy. Officely you
were able to interview them or wereyou writing some stories. I could not
talk to the children. Nobody talkedto them, but you talk to the
doctors. So you talk to thedoctors who had examined the show and just
it just breaks your heart. Well, you know one of the things I
said in the intro ken and Iwant to get your thoughts on it.
And as I said to our listenersat the beginning, we were engaged in

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the case. You were a materialwitness along with CIA director Jim Woolsey at
the time with regard to a familycalled the Mohammadi family back bar Comedy was
the first student leader in modern Iranianhistory to call for regime change, and
for that he was tortured and killedin Ivonne prison. But quite apart from
that, what really upsets me,and it makes me feel very frustrated,

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is that we talk about fighting Iranby putting on economic sanctions or making them
a pariah. Now I've been sayingover and over again, and I think
because I haven't talked to you,I'm the only one that's been saying it,
is that if we don't take outthe nuclear facilities now, if we
don't take out the Iranian Revolutionary Guardand the leadership, we're never going to

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have an opportunity to do it again. Because in theory, they don't have
atomic weapons right now. Of course, I think they may have a couple.
But what do you think about that? Because I think the time is
right to take them out now.We've got the excuse, the pretext,
because they seize an American oil tankerearlier in the week, and top of
everything else that's been going on withyou know, their surrogates in various countries.
But give me your thoughts on that. Well, you know, Larry,

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I've worked with Iranian freedom fighters formany, many years, as you
know, I had for many years, I had a foundation called the Foundation
for Democracy either on you're on dotorg on the Internet, it's still there.
And so I'm very close to thepeople who are fighting against the regime
in Iran. And one thing thatthey constantly tell me is that they do

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not want US military intervention unless itis so thoroughly overwhelming that it topples the
regime. And I don't think astrike on Iranian nuclear facilities would topple the
regime. I don't think it woulddo the trick I think. And besides
which, this administration does not havethe intestable fortitude to drop a single two
thousand pounds bomb on it. It'sa more question, but in a future

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administration, I would certainly be counselinghelping the Iranian people to overthrow the regime,
to give the freedom fighters in Iranwhat they need in terms of whatever.
We'll be right back with the nextsegment. Hang in there, Okay,
at the end of the break,Right back, O Timmerman. It's
step for prosecutor with Larry and nowForWords that make corrupt politicians make wee weie

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in their little pants. Transparency andthe rule of law will be the touchtones
of this president. We have topass the bill so that you kind to
find out what is in its SpecialProsecutor Larry claiming be the one who makes

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our country great again. Go toFREEDOMWATCHUSA dot org and donate. I'm back
with Ken Timmerman. We were talkingabout how the Iranian people want us to
basically remove the regime, not pinpricksyou know, on military facilities, et
cetera. You know, we hadan opportunity many years ago. You and
I were working together in effect duringthe Obama administration, when there was that

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opportunity to potentially overthrow the regime.Now it's many years later, and that
regime is now very powerful, Sohow would you go about overthrowing them if
given the current state of affairs andthe strength of the Iranian regime. Well,
you know, in two thousand andnine, which you're referring to,
were there are three million people inthe streets of Teheran and they were,

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you know, chanting Obama, areyou with us? And Obama basically said
back to them, no, I'mnot, I'm with the regime. For
the past two years twenty twenty one, you've had uprisings all across Iran,
popular protests that the job protests,iranimmen and also ethnic minorities and extremely differ

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minority people think that Iran is Persia. Persia is part of today's Ron,
but that's only half of it.Half of the Iranian even they speak Kurdish,
they speak various dialects, Arabic,the languages. So I think we
need to have a pretty broad basedmovement that reaches out to those leaders on

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the ground all across Iran, fromall different segments of the population. It
can be done publicly through public diplomacy. I think there are also things that
should be done covertly. Those ObviouslyI'm not going to talk about. But
there's a lot that we can dothrough public diplomacy, through broadcasting, through
internet freedom, through for example,ensuring that they have access to the Internet,
through these portable Wi Fi networks thatyou can set up in the mountains

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of Kurdistan and elsewhere. There's lotsof things that we can do that we
have not thought of doing. ButI would like to make the Mola's lives
very uncomfortable, and I would liketo enhance the ability of the Iranian people
to make their lives very uncomfortable.What makes you think that they have the
firepower to take out the Iranian RevolutionaryGuard, which protects the Supreme Leader and
the other animals over there, Well, you're not going to take them.

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You're not going to take them outvoluntarily. And that's something that is very
important for people to understand. Civildisobedience is a is a weapon of political
warfare. It is not being usedas a weapon of political warfare by the
United States or by our allies.But I think there's lots of things that
we can do. By helping theIranians to organize a kind of political jiujuitsu

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against the regime, we will thepeople of Iran will not have more weapons
than the Revolutionary Guards. It wouldbe futile to oppose them with what They
will get creamed, they'll get destroyed. Better is to infiltrate, to undermine,
to create a popular movement that delegitimizesystem. And I think that's the
important thing right now. They arethe legitimate power in Iran. That's the

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way they portrayed themselves, that's theway they're seen. We have to find
ways through political action to delegitimize them. If you were to try to take
them out militarily, how would youdo it. Well, that's a completely
different story. And you know,I'm not a military person on a war
correspond I've been on the ground,I've seen, I've been shot at in

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no number of places. But youknow, I'm not a military strategist.
But I think there are things thatwe can do. There are things that
the Iranians have told me we cando. But it would be a very
very large operation, and it'd bethe kind of thing I don't see.
Frankly, I don't see any USadministration doing anytime soon. Do you think

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that Millersey Graham's idea to bomb theoil wells would accomplish anything. I think
that's one of the dumbest things I'veever heard. And as much as I
like Lindsay Graham, you hit theoil wells in Iran, and what you've
done is turn the Iranian people againstus. And that's the last thing that
we want to do. We wantto keep them on our side. We
want to show them that we areon their side against the regime. So

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that is not a smart thing todo. You can do targeted strikes like
President Trump did against Costum Solamani.That was actually up inside Iran. The
thugs who are running, the RevoluteGuards who are running, they are You're
right, So that kind of operationyou can carry out. But going after

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infrastructure would be a very bad ideain my opinion. Do we have the
capability of infiltrating and assassinating the Supremeleader and people around him? Well,
look, I'm not in the intelligencecommunity. I can't tell you. But
we did it with cost some Solamoney, and that was a pretty impressive

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operation. He had just arrived fromI believe Syria on an aircraft at Baghdad
International Airport with another militia leader,got into a car in a small convoy
at like two o'clock in the morningand bang, we hit him with a
with a predator drone strike. Thatwas very good intelligence. So if you
have the intelligence to do that kindof thing, you ought to have the

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intelligence to go about assassinating just aboutanybody. Now, I remind you assassination
is of course illegal under US law, and it requires a presidential finding.
And I can't remember the last timethere was a presidential finding to assassinate the
leader of another country unless it's ourleader, you know, yes, unless
it's our leader. And there's politicalassassinate well, right, and political assassinations

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when with President Trump. What doyou think the effect would be in Iran
if we did assassinate the Supreme Leader? Would that freeze them? Well,
Larry, I think again, theregime itself has a monopoly on all the
forces of repression, on all theweapons. They have a monopoly on the
police and the IRGC, and Ithink they would clamp down very very quickly,

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and there would just be another SupremeLeader. I don't think that's a
solution. I would not advocate thatas a policy at this point. I
think there are Again, I favora political jiu jitsu. I favor non
violent political activity. I favored delegitimizingthe regime in the eyes of the people
and in the eyes of the regimeleaders themselves. If you have a defection

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among revolutionary guards officers against the hierarchybecause they are corrupt, because they're putting
money in their pockets, because theyare not helping the junior officers and the
people on the ground, I thinkthat goes a long long way to getting
rid of the regime. You delegitimizethem. Let's talk about the Moss leaders
that are living hind on the hogin Qatar, right, Yeah, these

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are not allowed to continue. Well, why aren't the Israelis taking them out?
Well, I don't bet that theIsraelis won't take them out. They
have said they will, and theyhave said that all of those the Humas
leaders who have taken part in theOctober seventh massacres, they will pay a
price. And I sat and listenedto Mark Regev just today say exactly that

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again, they will pay a price. So you know, the Israelis are
patients when it comes to things likethis. Remember they waited several years after
the nineteen seventy two massacre at theMunich Olympics before they got most of the
people there, and then of coursethere was a mistake and they had to
stop. But I believe that theywill go after them wherever they can find

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them and wherever they can mount acredible operation. What do you think about
whether or not there should be somekind of piece between a Moss and Israel.
It looks to me like what Israel'sdoing now is they're moving troops to
the northern border with Levin on itand they're basically just doing a holding action

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in southern Gaza. Is that aprelude to possibly some kind of an agreement
where a Moss will be relegated tolesser importance. I don't see, frankly,
how the Israelis, the way they'regoing about it will ever eliminate all
of the Moss. It's going tobe difficult. I think they realize how
difficult it's going to be. Theyhave destroyed the Hamas military infrastructure in the

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north. They are working on that. In central Gaza, they're working on
that in han units. Han Unisis a very difficult piece because it's full
of so many civilians. So theyhave to try to go after these tunnels
and underground workshops in the midst ofa civilian population. Very very difficult thing

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to do. But I think whatthe Israelis want to do is to ultimately
to to stabilize the situation. Theywant to prevent Hamas from being able to
launch rockets against Israeli populations. Theywant to be able to prevent Hamas from
launching a cross border attack such asthey did on October seventh, And slowly
they are getting to that goal.But you know, it looks like they're

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moving troops away and you know,moving up to the northern border. But
they're in this for the long haul, you know. They're Defense Minister and
the Chief of Staff have both saidthat the fighting in Gaza will continue throughout
twenty twenty four, all year long. So they're not leaving, they're just
minimizing the They're working with a smallerfootprint and with more targeted attacks based on

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what you know, because you arean expert in that area. Ken if
the war breaks out with Hesbo LahHesbola, you know, reportedly has over
one hundred thousand rockets, right,how can Israel expect to win that war
under those circumstances When Hesbola totally decimatedat that point no. And I'll tell

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you why I say that. Ithink I think the Iranians telegraphed their intentions
on October seventh when they did notorder Hezbola to join the fighting. If
the Iranians had really wanted to reallygo after Israel and reak even more destruction
than they did on October seventh,they would have had all three fronts,

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Hesbola in the north, Hamas inthe south, and they're proxies in Syria
to the east, all three frontsagainst Israel. They didn't do that.
They have not ordered Hamas Hesbola,excuse me, to launch a full scale
war against Israel. They've launch seventeenhundred rockets. That's significant, but it's
not a full scale attack. AndI happened to think that Nosrala, the

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leader of Hesbola, is a bitworried about what other Lebanese politicians and what
Lebanese public opinion thinks about him.He destroyed the country in two thousand and
six. Because I was there onthe ground during that war, reporting from
the Israeli side and into southern Lebanon. Nostraula destroyed Lebanese infrastructure. They don't
want to see that happen again,and I think that's actually putting pressure on

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him. Now. Israel has reportedly, he's the word, reportedly over one
hundred atomic weapons, and I suspectthat there is a range of them,
you know, large ones, smallwins, neutron bombs, et cetera,
tactical At what point should Israel everconsider using them? If you have something,
at some point, you know youmay actually have to use them,

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at what point would that arrive?Well, I think Israeli doctrine has for
decades been As former Prime Minister Chimntperrasaid, Israel will not be the first
to introduce nuclear weapons into the region, but they won't be the last either.
So those weapons are there as theultimate guarranteur of is real survivor survival,

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should God forbid, something happened witha country like Iran, a nation
like the Islamic State of Iran,that's what I call them, should they
actually use nuclear weapons against Israel?And you know, we don't know what
the Ayotola thinks. That's the problem, Larry, nobody knows what's going on.
Anxiety train, and that's the hardestthing today. So that's why everybody

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looks at their capabilities. They looknow with increasing alarm at Iran's stockpiling of
sixty percent uranium as sixty percent uraniumis almost weapons great. I mean,
it's very, very close. TheIAEA has estimated that they can have five
nuclear weapons with a month. Thereare independent experts who said they can have

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five within twelve should push the finalbit of en Richmond. So the Iranians
are really on a razor's edge betweenbeing a non nuclear state and a nuclear
weapons state. I don't think theIsraelis will allow them to go that final
a couple of inches whatever it is, the turns of a screw, but

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they don't need to use nucletar weaponsto do that. What could they used
to do that. We've got tohave two minutes left and then I want
to let you tell people where theycan reach you and support you. Got
one minute left. Well we'll gointo the last segment too, so go
ahead, kid. Well, look, I think the Israelis have shown over
the past couple of years that theyhave many other non genetic ways of slowing

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down the Iranian nucletar weapons program,whether it's by attacking the sexrifuges with a
computer virus, you know, cyberattack, whether it's killing nuclear scientists,
whether it's by stealing the nuclear archiveand then making it public. An amazing
intelligence group and play. It's gettingvery very close now to a nucleus are

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ready Iran? And I think that'sgot the Israelis looking at other options,
more kinetic option. Well, andthat's my point. We'll talk about it
at the other end of the break. I got about thirty seconds here,
and we'll come back and deal withthis because it's a very important issue and
it gets back to the initial pointthat I made. We'll be right back
with Ken Timmerman. Stay tuned.Before he was a trial lawyer, he

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sliced him and diced him. Peopleused to ask me, Larry, what
caused you to start judicial Watch,and how freedom Watch given the powerful forces
in this country that puts you atrisk in a meatpacking plan. I'm the
son of meat packers in Philadelphia,Pennsylvania, and had a slice and dice
a very special prosecutor, Larry Kraiman. If you'd like to support freedom Watch
and this radio show, go toFREEDOMWATCHUSA dot org. Now, fellow patriots,

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the verdict, those who believe inthe vision and creation of our founding
fathers, fellow patriots were back withKen Timmerman. Well, this gets us
full circle because if the Iranians arejust weeks away or a month away from
putting together five atomic bombs, youknow, will cyber warfare stop that?

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And if they do get those bombs, which they apparently can get very very
quickly, the ramifications in terms ofwhat's going on with his Bolah, with
the Moss, with the Islamics,you had, with the hoodies, you
name it, Syria, everything becomesmuch more acute and pronounced. So my
point was is that if you're goingto do it, if you're going to

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take out those facilities, and Israelhas I believe, probably weapons that can
do it. You know that wehad we can choose the mature board,
but we never did. We shouldhave with in laden, you know,
tactical nuclear weapons, neutron bombs,whatever. If you're ever going to use
something that wouldn't now be the time. Well, Larry, I think there,

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you know, there's there's a agreat deal of their international standards,
their international standards, their moral standardsaround the world not use nuclear weapons.
Every UH nuclear power except for andChina has pledged no first use, and

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I think the Israelis have said thatin the statement bat on Paris where he
says we will not be the firstintroduced new weapons. Really don't see that
happening. I get everybody talks aboutmilitary strikes on I wrang Uh. I
agree with you that a cyber attackat the time on the Iranians, if

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they turned the nuclear if they actuallyput the highly uranium make warhead, put
it on to a in the MiddleEast, and I think everybody, everybody's
estimates are blown off the map.Well, the problem with that is,
that's right, The problem with thatken is in today's world. But no

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government will tell us if that happenedbecause they don't want to face the reality.
Particularly our government will cover that upbecause Biden wants the Nobel Priest prize
like Obama got it, and youknow who knows. I think Ron probably
has a nice dossa on him andmaybe blackmailing, and there's plenty out there
to use. But anyway, Iwant to thank you for your expertise.
You're a good friend and what youdo is extremely valuable, and you're a

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brave guy. You're courageous. Notmany people would subject themselves to that degree
of risk going over there. Bythe way, I was in Israel during
two wars with a moss but Ihaven't been as deep as you've been.
But thank you Ken. Where canpeople reach you? The easiest thing is
at my website just my name,Ken Timmerman dot com, and soon you

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can also find me at the AmericaFirst Policy Institute. I've just joined the
Institute as a senior fellow, whereI'll be writing about Israel and Hamas,
about the Ranians and other things.So Ken Timmerman dot com or America First
Policy dot com, congratulations on thatnew position, followed Ken Timmerman. He's
one of the top experts in internationalrelations. Thank you, Ken. I

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have a great weekend. Thank you, Thank you, Larry God bless Meanwhile,
the verdict, the verdict, ladiesand gentlemen, people of faith,
others, is that we are ata crossroads in history. We don't know
where it's going. We have apresident who's a criminal, who's brain dead,
who doesn't tell the truth. Ourgovernment as a whole does not tell

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the truth. And it's time foryou, the American people, to rise
up. I want you to goto freedom Watch Org, join our Justice
League, contribute with tax deductible contributions. We are unafraid. We can sit
here in a dream world believing thatnothing's going to happen, that this will
all go away, but it won't. And as Ken Timmerman said, Iran

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is right on the verge of anuclear weapon. They can put one together
in a matter of days, andthey probably already have. And for us
to sit there and to play gameswith hoodies or or cuts or whatever the
case may be, is a wasteof time. It's simply provoking. It's
poking, it's exacerbating the cancer.It's already there. So now is the

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time to act, if you're evergoing to act. And I maintain forget
about nuclear norms, of international norms. Everybody hates is real anyway, not
me, not you, not ourlisteners, but the international community. They
have to do what needs to bedone, and the United States needs to
do what needs to be done.Will be that next week with another edition
a special Prosecutor with Larry cleaning.Until then, remember and Son will only

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help us if we help ourselves.And thank God that we do have that
father and son behind us, becausethat may be our salvation, and I
know it will be thank you forlistening to me, and we'll be back
next week.