March 25, 2025 • 51 mins
This episode will be looking at another interesting traditional herb of the world: Plantago ovata (Blond Psyllium), a great source of fiber, but can it help diabetes and cholesterol? We are going to find out! As always, we will do our deep dive into this herb and look at its traditional uses, and its preparation, interactions, and cautions. And, as usual, we will be adding something a little different…We are going to discuss cannabis and how it acts on the body. Each episode of the podcast will go into great depth about a single herb or formula. Besides covering the basics of herbology including category, and functions, we will explore the history, quality, science, pharmacology, evidence, and any potential interactions of each herb or formula. Please join us as we look at Plantago ovata or Blond Psyllium. It is going to be another interesting trek into the exciting universe of herbs…please join us!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to today's episode of Sperbs Orbs. Today we're doing
episode eighty. We're gonna be talking about something I you know,
I didn't say statistics on this, but I actually think
it's probably the most commonly used herb a the maybe
if you put coffee in that category. But we're gonna
be talking about blonde cilium, which is one type of cilium,
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but cilium in general is incredibly commonly used, and the
species is plantago ovata. So we're gonna get into that.
So hang on and let's keep going. Today's episode, we'll
be looking at another traditional herb of the world, plantago
ovata or blondecilium. This is commonly used as a fiber supplement,
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but can it also help diabetes and cholesterol. We're going
to find out. As always, we will do our deep
dive into this herb and look at its traditional uses
and its preparation interactions and cautions, And as usual, we'll
be adding something a little different. We're going to discuss
cannabis and how it acts on the body. There's going
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to be another interesting track into the exciting universe of herbs.
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interested in. So let's talk about how cannabis affects the body.
Marijuana or cannabis, has been increasingly legalized in the United States,
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with the latest change this happened in the last month
or two. The latest change being the federal government is
going to reclassify it from its most restrictive drug class.
In other words, it's not going to be in the
same category of drugs as cocaine and and you know,
and fetamines, methamphetamines, stuff like that, So it's going to
be easier, it's not going to be as illegal as
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it was before. From my online course, an Evidence Based
Approach to Cannabis, let's discuss how cannabis affects the body.
Cannabis has over four hundred and twenty known constituents, with
anywhere from sixty to one hundred and twenty of them
being cannabinoids. So if you haven't heard this term before, cannabinoid,
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it actually is defined as constituents unique to cannabis. So
about anywhere from about what is that that's about thirty
percent about I'd say about five to thirty percent. Now
fifteen to thirty percent of the constituents and cannabis are
only found in cannabis, so that's interesting, and those are
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known as cannabinoids. The cannabinoids affect the endo cannabinoid system
in the body, so endomeaning inside, and so this is
the inside the indigenous the within system that that cannabinoids
can effect, and we have a whole system that that
is affected by these cannabinoids. There are several important cannabinoids,
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especially delta nine tetra hydro cannabinol or THHC, which is
often considered the active graham. We'll talk about it briefly.
Of cannabis. There's a kindabi dial CBD. If you've heard
I mean, if you go anywhere, I don't know where
you guys live, where I live, there isn't a there. There.
There may be now, but there wasn't a a gas
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station that wasn't advertising CBD. You saw CBD everywhere, every
every cigarette shop, every every every gas station would would
say we have CBD. So that's cannabi dial. We have
cannabinall or cb N. We have delta eight tetra hydro
cannabin all. So remember Delta nine was THHC, Delta eight
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is a different form of it, and Canada by homine
or CBC, and finally cannaby cannabidrol or canna bidrawl. So
those are all the different chemicals important cannabinoids that are
in cannabis. Cannabinoids work on an already existing system in
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the body. Where randocannabinoids can affect nerves, we have endocannabinoids,
which means we create our own similar chemicals to these cannabinoids.
These act on two known receptors CB one in CB two,
which are G protein coupled receptors. Now we haven't really
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talked about G protein coupled receptors. Those are interesting because
they're they're they're coupled with something called the G protein,
which utilizes grinding and triphosphates, so GTP don't worry about
that so much. That's why they're called G protein though.
What is important about these G protein coupled receptors is
that they can indulge in something called amplification. So one
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small actvation of one of these receptors can create a
cascade that can then go on and actually affect a
lot of different things. So that's what's important about the
G protein. It's a very very very common receptor system
within the US, within the in the human body, so
lots of different G protein couple receptors. And there are
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two known non CB one non CB two CB like receptors.
So there's two known CB likes receptors. We said there's
only two CB receptors c B one and c B two,
but there's also two that are like them but are different,
and ones called non CB one and non CB two. Okay,
there are several well known endocannabinoids, so again these are
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things that we actually create in our bodies. One of
those is n A RACKADONOILUH rackadenoil ol ethanol ethanol amide
or A nandamide, which is also known as ae A,
to A rackadine oil, glycerol, t AG viod hamine or
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viotamine viotamine. Everything is vr O, d H A m
I n E n A rackadoyle dopamine or nada nada nolidine,
and others, of which the first two are the most understood.
So that's the ae A and the two ag CB
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one receptors are highly concentrated in the neurons of the
central nervous system, especially the cerebral cortex, hippocampus, lateral cadate, putamin, substantia,
niagra pars reticulate, the amygdala, which if you're familiar with
the amigudla, is very important with emotions and cerebellums. These
are really kind of can be basic, but the cerebral
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cortex is our higher thinking centers. These placements underscore their
role in cognition, brain function, and analoges so relief. Low
levels are present in peripheral neurons in the heart, adrenals, bladder,
vascular and lung, smooth muscle cells, and the intestines. SEEB
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one receptors play a role in regulation of movement, sleep, emotion, appetite,
body temperature, memory storage, and pain activation. Can inhibit type
five HT three ion channel, so type five HT three
five HT three is serotonin, so can inhibit type serotonin
type ion channels modulate the production of nitric oxide after
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sodium channel conductance. Excuse me not after alter sodium channel conductance,
which is very important to how nerves work and activate
the sodium hydrogen exchanger. So lots of interesting chemical effects
of these SEEB two receptors are found primarily in the periphery,
located in the immune and hematopoetic system. So the immune system,
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of course, we know what that means. The amutopoetics is
are the systems that create blood. Basically, so amoutopoetic is
means creation of blood. They're also present in the brain
and other tissues, though not as prominently as the CB
one receptors. Their presence in the lymphoid organs lymph tissues
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explains that its effects on cell mediated immunity by inhibiting
T cells, cytokine secretion, and humoral responses from B cells.
So this is all part of our immune system, and
these of course can explain anti inflammatory effects, so one
of the big things. One of the reasons why CBD
is everywhere is because it's supposed to be really help inflammation.
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Nandamide is a partial agonist at both CB one and
CB two, but has a higher affinity for CB one,
not also prefers CB one. TWOAG is a complete agonist
at both receptors, though it shows less affinity than nandamide
for either of them. So if there's nanimide is present,
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then that's more likely to activate CB one and CB two.
But if two AG does act does get into the
receptions of CV one and CB two, it completely activates them,
while ananimide only partially activates them. Vierotamine appears to prefer
CB two a little in the weeds. All right, we'll
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move on. THHC is the substance that produces a high,
which includes euphoria, relaxation, altering of perception and intensification of
ordinary sensory experiences such as eating, watching films, and music listening.
There can be excessive laughter and talkativeness and impaired cognition,
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motor skills and reaction time. Perception of time may be
altered and tactile sensations become more intense. Visual hallucinations may occur.
So Gwyndon and and Homin summarize some of how anti
no susception occurs. So anti no susception means pain relief.
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So anti no susception is our nerves that receive pain impulses.
Anti no susception means this prevents the provocation of pain reception. So,
when administered systemically, cannabinoids suppress no susceptive neurons in the
spinal dorsal horns. This is part of the spinal cord
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and the ventral posterior lateral nucleus of the thalamus. Remember
the thalamus is I always like to think of it
as a traffic cop of the brain. It tells where
signals should go in the brain. These effects do not
alter the physiological effects of non no susceptive nerds. In
other words, if it's not a neuron that is supposed
to conduct pain, then these do not alter those effects
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at all. Ya does this explain motor effects of these compounds.
So this isn't the end all be all of what's
happening with these chemicals, but it can't explain why it
helps with pain. Kind of anoid receptors have been demonstrated
on primary afferent neurons, So afferent means going towards the brain,
so that is what so primary affrot neurons, So these
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are what go towards. The name pre impost synaptic sites
in the spinal cord. Let's not get into all that.
It's anapsis is where neurons connect. Basically, they actually don't connect.
It's actually the space between neurons, but they send neurotransmitters
which propagate to the next neuron. Okay, let's not get
to into that. And the spinal cord using receptor binding
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and quantitative out a radiography. Okay, So that's how they
found this out in the dorsal horn of the spinal cord.
CB one receptors have been found on interneurons and on astrocytes,
So interneurons are between neurons, cells between neurons, so neurons
that are between neurons, so that's good. If they're there,
they can kind of slow that down, and astras sites
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are helper cells for the neurons. Ubregulation of cannabinoid receptors
is also observed in the spinal cord following nerve injury.
In other words, when you have a nerve injury where
it's it's trying to help you with the pain by
ubregulating those receptors. Okay, so those a brief overview of
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sort of about chemical parts. Let's talk about cannabis according
to Chinese medicine. So starting with the Shennong Ben saud Jing,
which if you remember, we're going to talk about it
some more, not in today's episode, but in our next episode.
Of the Shandong Ben Sludging is the first book of
individual herbs that it's still existing in Chinese medicine. So basically,
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if an herb is in shinanong Ben sludging, it's it's
amongst the oldest herbs in the Chinese material medica. So
starting with the Shenan Shennong Ben sludging Dam, which is
the modern Chinese name or cannabis city of Herba is
acrid with a balanced temperature. It treats the seven damages
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is according to the shadown about such as ben saujing.
It treats the seven damages, disinhibits the five viscera, and
precipitates the blood and cold chi. It is considered a
superior class herb, which is interesting because superior class herbs
are those herbs that you can take on a regular
basis and will provide health for you, at least according
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to a two thousand year old book. I forgot to say.
This is written in two hundred CE, so almost two
thousand years old, and it continues to say larger doses
may make one behold ghosts and phrenetically run about. Well,
that sounds like a lot of cannabis. The seed is
sweet supplements the center in boost chi. Now we do
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currently frequently, relatively frequently use houma ren which is the seed,
so that is commonly used. It is denatured so it
can actually grow any pie if you get the seeds.
But it is cannabis seeds. So to see the sweet
supplements to center in boost chi. Long term use may
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make one fat, strong and never senile. We'll make it
one fat. You're going to be you might be hungry,
but with cannabis in general, but I don't know so
much about the seeds. Modern usage of the seed Juma
Rn agrees that it is sweet and neutral and enters
the small intestine, large intestine spleen. It nourishes and moistens
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the intestines, nourishes y in and clears heat, and promotes
healing of sores. Sheen and Chen, which is one of
our major textbooks that we use in Chinese medicine for
herbs individual orbs. Chen Chen add that it moistens dryness
and benefits the hair, and enters the stomach rather than
the small intestine. Both of these texts it is the
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moist is in the moist laxative category of herbs. There's
some evidence cannabis may have been used in combination with
other herbs as an anisec for surgery in China. Some
speculated may have been part of Huatwo's technique, though there's
no direct proof other than linguistic commonalities. So if you're
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not familiar with Watso, he's considered one of the greatest
doctors in Chinese medicine and he was known for doing surgery,
so very interesting. So a reference to an aniset formula
using cannabis is including the Bianchoe hin Chu or heart
text of Bianchoue, written sometime between eleven twenty seven and
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twelve seventy CES. That's very interesting, and that's it for
cannabis at this point. It is just a brief introduction.
And with that introduction to cannabis in Chinese medicine, let's
get into today's herb, which is not a Chinese medical herb.
It's puntaka or blonde silium. This is in the family
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Plantagenasia and the species is specifically pantago Evata forsk. Remember
that this is fr SSK period. That's short for the
bodanists who classified it. So we see that in technical
species names often the medicial part is mostly the seeds
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blonde selium, though the epidermis and fresh plant may also
have medicinal uses, so the seeds actually the epidermis of
the seeds. The husk is actually also very important here.
Lots of other names include desert Indian wheat, flea seed.
If you look at the picture we have on the
first one, it looks it's the size of a flea.
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That's why it's called the fee seed. Blonde blonde, plainton
blood blood, plantago blonde, cilium, which of course with the knee,
so you see with a E n without an E
dietary fiber. Sometimes it's just called dietary fiber, Englishman's foot
ashpoola ipagola is isab ispagul, ispagol. All of those are
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iaveetic names. I think you know. It's different dialects within
Hindi and various Indian languages. Pale silium silio, sillium blonde,
it's just silium uh silium blonde, this one with a
y rather than an I in silium silium husk, Indigo,
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Indian plantago, uh espagoula again, that's gonna be isaa. That's
another iabetic name. San plankton, spogeluh ispagol I have not
come close to that. There's an H in there, so
that's why it's it's it's the same thing as is,
but one has an H after the G. One does P,
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D cumbents, P. S ispagula, P. Festigiata, and P and solaris.
All those last ones in the PE stands for plantago
and they're basically species. Other species names other than Plantago
elevata However, those are considered to be not in appropriate
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use at this point. You see to see them on
their older names for it. Basically, that's a lot of
names moving on. So when looking at alternative names, I
looked at WebMD, which usually has a really good list
of other names for the herbs we cover, and I
almost face pomped. It listed of relatively common Chinese irb
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Cha Cienza. That wouldn't be the first time I started
out covering a Western irb and found out it was
the same as a Chinese herb. Actually, that makes perfect
sense because the Chinese these aren't solidified from two thousand
years ago. There's a lot of Chinese IRBs that are
modern herbs that came from the West, so it's not
completely unreasonable. This can happen because while we learn Latin
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names when studying Chinese IRBs, often they are pharmaceutical Latin names,
which can be in are different than accepted botanical species.
Though this is happening less as like the newest version
of the Materia Medica does this a lot less than
the one that I studied originally. So I saw the
Cha Chians and went, oh, oh, well, it turns out
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that Cha Chiansa is the same genera Plantago, but is
a different species either Asiatica or Depressa is probably similar
enough so that if we can't find there isn't a
good Chinese description of our herb today, it would probably
be a good alternative. So let's find out. And we're
actually gonna find out it is a really good alternative,
So we're gonna we're gonna continue that thought there is,
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So let's talk about the Plantagenasier family. There is some
controversy of whether this family should be named ver Verona Cassier,
but plant Planta Planta genasier is currently more accepted. The
Planta Genasier or Plainton family is a diverse family of
flowering plants, covering about one hundred and seven genera and
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nineteen hundred species. Snap dragons and fox club digitalis are
members of this family. And I was just talking about
fox Club when I was talking when I did my
cardiac drugs just a couple of weeks ago, was it
last week? I can't remember anymore. So actually, very important,
fox love very important. I have a lot of verbal
stuff and some serious pharmaseugals have been derived from it.
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The banana like Plaintons are not part of this family.
Same word Plainton, but this is not. There are no
banana like Plaintons in this Plainton family. Don't ask me
where the names come from. There's lots of history there.
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Let's talk about speaking of history, let's talk about the
history of plantage and Nevada, which has been used medically
for hundreds, if not thousands of years. It is used
in iovetic medicine as well as Western robology. Several websites
refer to its use in ierobetic medicine for five thousand years.
It seems pretty ludicrous on the face of things. There
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are no written records that go anywhere near that far back,
and any archaeological evidence would be really important and fairly
well known. If they're quoting five thousand years, they should
quote the archaeological evidence. But it does speak to the
fact that this has been used for a long time
in hierabetic medicine. So there does seem to be you know,
the iabatic texts can go back two but twenty five
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hundred years. I don't know if it's in those, but
it's not far off from that twenty five hundred years,
so I think thousands of years in iobatic medicine seems reasonable,
not five thousand. It appears that it's also was is
used in Arabian and Persian medicine, and it's certainly has
roots in European medicine. In the US, it was first
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commercialized by John Harvey Kellogg yes at Kellogg and was
sold at his Battle Creek Sanitarium in the nineteen twenties.
That's where cornflakes was developed, and the Kellogg Cereal Company
came from so Yes, so they were the ones who
first commercialized it. If you haven't looked into the history
of cornflakes, it's interesting and it does start with its
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Battle Creek Sanitarium, which was incredibly popular in the nineteen twenties.
And so you know, he was kind of the I
guess doctor Wile, doctor Tropra of that age, you know,
very well known. In nineteen ninety eight, the FDA approved
the following The FDA, the Food and Drug Administration of
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the US approved the following health claim for cilium three
to twelve gram soluble fiber from cilium seed husk, when
included as part of a diet low and satury fat
end cholesterol, may reduce the risk of heart disease. Now,
the keyword there is may reduce. There actually isn't a
ton of evidence on this. We're going to talk about
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the evidence later on. So I there certainly isn't any
harm in doing this, and it probably helps heart disease,
but we're not entirely sure it does. Okay, so let's
talk about its traditional uses. An article on the Plants
for a Future Database says cilium has been used as
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a safe and effective laxative for thousands of years in
western herbal medicine. You know, I always love it when
people say thousands of years, five thousand years, all these things,
because they're saying it without any evidence, and it's hard
to say what was happening in thousands of years ago.
So unless we have some evidence, I want to see.
It's like one of the nice things about Chinese medicine
is when I say this Shandong ben seal jing, we
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know that's eighteen hundred years old, almost two thousand years,
and that's pretty definitive. But it's not necessarily a lot
of that going around in Western nerbal medicine. So there's
some you know, some of the growing Chin Creek medicines
and stuff like that. So both the dried seeds and
the seed husks are demulsiont emollient, and laxative. So these
are I like to say, old timey science words. They're not.
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They're used, but still, so let's check it out. So
they're demulsion Dimulson means a mucilaginous or oleagonists preparation that
forms a soothing protective film over a mucous membrane and
relieving minor pain and inflammation of that membrane. That's what
a demulsion is. Some mucilaginous means you know, mukaloid. You know,
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it's just it's like slimy and thick, that sort of thing.
An emollient is a preparation that softens the skin. So
it is demulsion, emollient and laxative, which of course promotes
the passing of stool. They are used in the treatment
of dysentery, catarrhal conditions of the genital are, urinary track
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and flame, membranes of the intestinal canal, as, etc. So
those are some of its use traditional uses. The PDR
for Herbal Medicines says it was approved by commission E.
Commissioning is from Europe, the European Union and they they're
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older now, that was in nineteen nineties, but they looked
at evidence at that point. So if something is approved
by commissioning, it usually has at least some evidence behind it.
So it was approved by commission Y for constipation diarrhea.
Interesting those are technically opposites, but it can be used
for both constipation diarrhea, raised levels of cholesterol and hemorrhoids.
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They continue to say celium is used for disorders where
easy bowel movements with a loose stool is desirable, eg.
In patients with anal fissures and hemorrhoids following anal rectal
surgery and during pregnancy. In folk medicine, the herb is
used internally for inflammation of the mucous membrane of the
eurog general tract and gastro intestinal tract. In dysentery externally,
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celium is used for gout rheumatism for uncles an end
as an analgesic so pain reliever can what traditional uses
let's head into aravetic medicine. So according to www. Dot
easyierveda dot com, plantado Evada's basic vedic properties include ferosa
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or taste. It's madura or sweet for guna or qualities
snigda snigda or has moisture guru or heavy and pechilla
or slimy makes that is kind of what it does.
The veria or energy is madua or sweet. If the
paca or post digestive effect is madura or it undergoes
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a sweet taste after digestion. And the dosher constitution is
vata pitta shimaka reduce. Again, I'm not great with my pronunciation,
so apologize reduces vitiated vata and pitta dosha, and some
say it balances down cappa and pitta doshas. So if
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you want to know more about this, I do a
couple deep dives on some of my early aervetic medicines.
I believe vashual ganda is one of those. And if
it goes into what all, this kind of breaks down.
So if you want to look into that a little
bit more, then I would recommend looking at those older
super observes. But in the meantime, www. Dot ezveta dot
com continues present continue to describe traditional Aabatic actions. That's
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the doctor who wrote the article. Externally, it relieves burning
sensation and edema. External applications indicated in vata pittaja type
of headache, inflammation ericephalis, which is a skin skin infection, boils,
et cetera. Treating the respiratory system. It expels out vitiated coffadosia,
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indicated in dry cough, in excretion, It induces urine production,
is indicated in painful mix duration or that's urination, uti,
urinary attract infection, et cetera. And it is indicated in
general weakness and promotes body strength. Web MD says the
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serb is used and is effective for constipation, is lightly
effective for heart disease prevention and dyslipidemia, so cholesterol issues.
It's possibly effective for diabetes, diarrhea, hemorrhoids, Irboball syndrome, helping
the adverse effects of the weight loss drug or list
at and they say it is possibly quote possibly ineffective
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unquote for non canceroust growth in the large intestine and
rectum or colorectal edema. So there you go. So let's
talk about dosage in preparation. According to the PDR, for
herbal medicines, the whole or coarsely chopped drug as well
as other galenic preparations are used internally. Sufficient. Food must
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be taken with the drug one hundred and fifty millimeters
of water per five grams of drug. One hundred and
fifty millions of water is about six ounces one They
did show a greater effect of cilium on cholesterol after
mixing with food. The dose should be taken one half
hour to one hour after taking another medication. The powder
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products should be administered as one teaspoonful that's three point
four grams to six grams of drug in eight ounces
of fruit juice or cool water, either stir briskly or
shake for three to five seconds, depending on the specific product.
And celium may be taken up to three times daily.
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Going back to veic medicine. With that iarebetic website, Easy
aarebetic website, easyierveda dot com website. They state the dosage
is five to ten grams of the seed or seed husks.
They continue to say the seed husk of Ashrall Gull,
which is a name I'm not sure we covered, but
it's one of the Indian names. Aabetic names is soaked
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in water for a couple of hours and later it
is consumed to treat distension of abdomen constipation and flatulence.
Seed of isabgull again another name. They use different names
of the same thing. Here, seed of aabgull is made
into powder and the powder is consumed in a dose
of three to five grams to treat burning sensation, excessive
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thirst in the body, and fever. The seeds are frieding
ghee so clarified butter and consumed to treat irrable bowl syndrome.
Seeds of a sabagull are made into paste and applied
externally in cases of herpes localized swelling with burning sensation
an area affected with pustules. Cold infusion of the seeds
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of it is subgoal is consumed in a dose of
thirty to forty millimeters to treat retention of urine. That's
a lot, well, cold infusion, I guess thirty to forty milliters. Okay,
it's not a lot necessarily, uh. Still indosage in preparation
web mdsas bluntsim has most often been used by adults
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in doses of three to twenty four grams by mouth
daily for up to twenty weeks. Always drink at least
eight ounces of fluids for every three to five grams
of husk or seven grams of seed. Very important you
drink water with this. Then in fact, when we get
to cautions, that comes up again later. Quality of this
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it was difficult to find anything on what makes good
quality plantago Avata. Having said this, there are some concerns
with preparations of this herb on the market. Consumer lab
dot Com now iaching this a lot in my teaching,
and I love it. Consumer lab dot com is a
fantastic website. You do need to pay to do it.
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But what they actually they have great monographs on a
whole bunch of different herbal supplements, herbal and non verbal supplements,
and they also test on products which I love. It's
like it's like Consumer Reports for supplements. Love it. So
that's consumer Lab run by a doctor who I think
really knows the stuff. So consumer lab dot Com says
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heavy metal, especially lead, is present in many common cilium supplements.
Out of the eight brands they tested, five of them,
including very common and well known brands, had lead levels
above recommended levels. They also said there are counterfeit products
on the market, which seems odd to me. These aren't
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expensive products to begin with. The bottom line is to
try to find tests and confirm reliable sources of the syrup.
So the bottom line is you might want to check
consumer lab dot com before getting into these supplements. So
Chinese medical actions, as we mentioned this, there is a
closely related Chinese irb che Cienza is so similar similar
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that Chen and Chen again, one of our major textbooks
that we use in Chinese arobology, so similar. I don't
have the books. I don't know the actual name of it,
but it's a great book. It is so similar to that.
Chen and Chen have an author's comment about this herb,
and it says there are many species of plantago within
the family of plant plantigenasier. In traditional Chinese medicine, Plantago
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depressa and Plantago asiatica are the two commonly used species,
for they are widely available on the Asian continent. Beyond
the Asian continent, Plantago cilium and Plantago arenaria can be
found in Spain, and Plantago ovata found in southern Europe
and northern Africa, which is of course our herb today.
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According to the literature, all species of plantago have similar
functions and indications and can be used interchangeably. Therapeutic effects
include diarysis, promotion of regular bowel movement and anti bacterial
and anti fungal effects. So with all of this in mind,
let's look at the Chinese meddical actions of che chins
and apply them to plantago avata. So Benski at all,
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that's another that's our other big there's I usually use
three big textbooks for single herb. Benski is another one
of those. So Benski and his team say, say this
herb is sweet and cold and enters the bladder, kidney, liver,
and lung. It promotes urination and clears damp heat, promotes
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urination just to solidify the stool, clears the eyes, and
expels phlegm and stops cough. So those would be its
Chinese functions. Chen similarly say it clears damp heat and
resolves damness, resolves damnness and stops diarrhea, clears liver heat
and benefits the eyes, and clears the lung and dissolves phlegm.
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And both Chen and Chen and Benski and his team
say che Chians have first appeared in the Shakedown Ben Sajing.
That's the Divine Husbandman's classic of the Materia Medica in
the second century CE, making it among the first herbs
in written form and quite old. So there you go,
very very old herb or something similar to it. According
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to trans medicine comparisons and combinations, there weren't any direct
comparisons or combinations for this herb in our literature. Searches.
Easy aerveda dot com does list several commonly used arabeta
compounds that contain plantago evada, including constawin capsule, laxo erb powder,
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go lax powder, and laxo gold capsule contents. SO drugs
dot Com has a great summary of the chemistry of
plantago avato. So plontaco constituents include acids e g. Benzoic, caffeic, chlorogenic, cinemic,
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p cumoric, fumeric, celicilic, ersolic, vanilic, and excorbic. Includes alkaloids
such as boikine and amino acids, alanine, aspergene, histadine, and lysine.
The seeds are coated with mucilage twenty to thirty percent
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located only in the epidermis of the testa seed. Other
plant carbohydrates such as sacarose, stachystachyose, sorbitol, and tyrosol have
also been reported. Leaf mucilage has been also been reported
and includes polysaccharides containing ramnose, l arabinose, mannose, galactose, and
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dextrose all sugars. Additionally, the seeds contain fixed oil protein,
eerdoids and tannins. Flabinoids found in plantago include epigenin, by kalin,
by kaline and scutularine. Eridoids found in plantago are occuban,
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plant plant taran oh man, Okay, let me see plant tarin.
You think I would study these things ahead of time,
but I don't. Uh planta arena low side. I'm sure
that's not pronounced properly. It's a big words. I'm not
even gonna spell it, and a cobby side, coboside a,
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cuboside a, cuboside. Other components of the plant include coaline, fat, resins, steroids,
and vitamins, saffras. At all say it possesses twenty two
point six percent of rabinose and seventy four point six
percent xylo, with a small amount of other sugars. So
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let's talk about the science. So according to Cooper, and
remember I said, that's government is from the website consumer
lab dot com and they have really great, really great
monographs on all of this so crediting to Cooperman. The
celium husk is about ninety percent fiber, most of which
about eighty percent of the fiber is soluble fiber. This
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soluble fiber can attract and bind water, absorbing about ten
times its weight and water forming a non fermentable that's
important viscous gel in the gut. This gel one occupies
boume and slows digestion, leading to fullness and helping to
regulate blood sugar levels, and two softens and adds bulk
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to stool, providing a laxative effect. The gel may also
bind to and reduce the absorption of a variety of compounds,
which may explain its cholesterol lowering effect, but also its
ability to reduce absorption of medicines, which is why you
want to separate medicines from taking this. The remaining twenty
percent of the fiber and cilium husk is insoluble fiber
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that can also add bulk to stool. Gouberman continues to
say celium may be useful as a laxative and in
treating fecal incontinence, ultero colitis or U see irritable bowel
syndrome IBS. Appetite and hunger control, sugar control, and lowering cholesterol.
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He says celium is the only type of supplemental fiber
recommended by the American gastro into Inerrological Association of the
AGA as a first line therapy for individuals with chronic
constipation not due to an underlying disease, particularly those with
low intake of dietary fiber. However, there appears to be
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insufficient evidence for the use of cilium in occasional constipation.
A task force of gastroineurology experts says cilium may be
useful in reducing fecal and continence. There does not appear
to be good evidence supporting the use of sylium and
ulter of colitis. In fact, I'd be a little concerned
that even in powderform, the seeds in a husk might
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be a little bit irritating to all sort of colitis.
So I'd be cautious with all sort of colitis using
this an sort of colitis. Having said that, if someone's
taking it and getting relief from it, I'm the last
person to say tell them to stop it. There is
some evidence it can be helpful for irritable bowel syndrome constipation,
irritoble bowl syndrome constipation as demonstrated in a small study
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of children. To take that with a little bit of
grain of salt because of the small number and also
the fact that it's children not adults. Well, there have
been some positive small short term studies funded by companies.
There does not appear to be strong evidence for the
use of cilium and appetite and hunger control and weight
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loss meta analysis love my meta analyses men analysis showed
benefit for diabetics taking cilium, showing significant reduction in triglycerides,
low density lipoprotein, fasting blood sugar, and hemoglobin. A one
seeds that right there means that it's helpful for diabetes
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and for helping cholesterol. So our two questions that we
had are answered here. It is believe cilium helps sugar
levels by binding sugar and reducing its absorption. There does
not appear to be a significant evidence of type two
diabetes prevention with supplementation, so you can help with sugar
control once you have diabetes, but it does not seem
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to prevent diabetes. LDL and total cultural do appear to
be lowered with cilium supplementation and rat studies have shown
wound healing and anti imfloammatory actions. Okay, I through that
in there because we kind of mentioned there might be
some anti inflammatory action going on, but it's in rats,
so that does not mean it's in humans in any way,
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shape or form. So drug urban reactions when cilium or
plantajo avata is combined with levadopa, simax, which is the
overall maximum levels of the drug, is reduced an overall
bioavailability bioavailability of levodopa was improved, so that's interesting. There's
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some speculation that con commit and administration, so administration at
the same time with other drugs may slow the absorption
of the drug. This is not even an opinion and
there's no supporting evidence, but kind of makes sense. So
I don't know. Taking both a laxative and cilium could
increase the risk of hypercolemia. According to the PDR forbal medicines,
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hypercolemia is too much potassium in the blood and that
can be life threatening. A study of four male subjects,
only four showed lower carbonmazepine carbamazepine bioavailability when taken with
plantago Seeds way too small to make definitive answers out
of it, but it is something to kind of be
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aware of in patience who might be taking carbon mazepine.
Taking lithium and silium together could decrease plasma levels and
efficacy of lithium, which is a hypo is an anti
manic drug, so if someone has mania, you can affect that.
Having said all of this, the American Rberral Product Association's
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Botanical Safety Handbook puts the serb in interaction Class A
herbs for which no clinically relevant interactions are expected. They
do recommend taking other drugs one hour prior to and
so several hours after cilium to avoid interference with absorption.
And finally Cooperman, Oh, this is more of a caution.
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In fact, I will move it under that, but I'm
gonna mention it now. Couberman says cilium can cause bloating,
gas diarrhea of taking too much, constipation if taken without
enough fluid, and allergies. So here we talk about concerns
of this. We just mentioned what Kuberman's concerns were. According
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to the PDR for herbal medicinescilium is contraindicating patients who
have pathological narrowing in the gastrointestinal tract, intestinal obstruction, obstruction
or threatening obstruction of the bowel or ilias that is
all known as ilius in ilius, fecal impaction, difficulty swallowing,
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or esophageal narrowing, or difficulties in regulating diabetes melitas. They
continue under the heading of precautions and adverse reactions gas,
intestinal distension of flatulens, potentially severe but rare allergic reactions
and sneezing, chest congestion and wheezing and appetite suppression. Cilium
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contains various antigens, and cases of anaphylaxis and asthma have
been reported. Incorrect continue with the PDR for herbal medicines.
Incorrect administration procedures with too little fluid can cause the
product to swell and lead to obstruction of the esophagus
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or of the intestine, particularly with older people and patients
with exocrine pancreatic insufficiency should avoid use of solium due
to inhibitory actions on pancreatic light pace. And Finally, the
American Herbal Products Association's Bochanical Safety Handbook puts this herb
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in safety Class two D. The General Safety Class two
states herbs for which the following use restrictions and apply
unless otherwise directed by an expert qualified in the use
of the described substance. And then that sub two D
states other specific use restrictions has noted. And these restrictions
include taking with eight ounces of liquid. You gotta take
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it with eight ounces of liquid. And they do have contraindications,
but they're very similar to what we just discussed with
the PDR for verbal medicine. So those are all kind
of all put together there, and that's pretty much it.
We made it through despite my coffee. I apologize, so sorry.
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There we go. Summary. We started our discussion today by
talking about cannabis and how it acts on the body
and how it acts according to Chinese medicine. From there,
we did our deep dive into plantago ovata or blonde cilium,
a very commonly used herb used to increase fiber and
help excretion. Well generally considered to be safe enough flue
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should be taken, and certain conditions should avoid its use. Overall,
another fascinating and helpful herb, and as I said at
the beginning, incredibly commonly used herb. You know, if I
was just hanging out with several of my friends last night,
and none of them would take any herbs except for
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one of them is taking regular cilium every day to
help with his various stuff, and so this is the
one herb out of all my friends that they're taking,
so very commonly used herb. In our next episode, we
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will be exploring another interesting Chinese herb, Shi shin, a
sorry herba or a sarum English is sarm or Chinese
wild ginger. This herb is in the Chinese medical subcategory
of warm acrid herbs that release the exterior under the
category of release the extra IRBs or is it one
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of our books disagrees with that. Let's figure this out.
It can be an important nerb in certain circumstances, especially
as a potential substitute for some of the functions of
the band Ma huang or a fedra. But is it safe,
is it readily available or is it banned? We're going
to find out, and as usual, we will be exploring
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The preceeding was presented by doctor Greg Spermer. We would
like to thank Janelle Fowler's support and everybody else who
contributed to this program. Roger Campbell
Welcome to today's episode of Sperbs Orbs. Today we're doing
episode eighty. We're gonna be talking about something I you know,
I didn't say statistics on this, but I actually think
it's probably the most commonly used herb a the maybe
if you put coffee in that category. But we're gonna
be talking about blonde cilium, which is one type of cilium,
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but cilium in general is incredibly commonly used, and the
species is plantago ovata. So we're gonna get into that.
So hang on and let's keep going. Today's episode, we'll
be looking at another traditional herb of the world, plantago
ovata or blondecilium. This is commonly used as a fiber supplement,
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but can it also help diabetes and cholesterol. We're going
to find out. As always, we will do our deep
dive into this herb and look at its traditional uses
and its preparation interactions and cautions, And as usual, we'll
be adding something a little different. We're going to discuss
cannabis and how it acts on the body. There's going
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interested in. So let's talk about how cannabis affects the body.
Marijuana or cannabis, has been increasingly legalized in the United States,
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with the latest change this happened in the last month
or two. The latest change being the federal government is
going to reclassify it from its most restrictive drug class.
In other words, it's not going to be in the
same category of drugs as cocaine and and you know,
and fetamines, methamphetamines, stuff like that, So it's going to
be easier, it's not going to be as illegal as
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it was before. From my online course, an Evidence Based
Approach to Cannabis, let's discuss how cannabis affects the body.
Cannabis has over four hundred and twenty known constituents, with
anywhere from sixty to one hundred and twenty of them
being cannabinoids. So if you haven't heard this term before, cannabinoid,
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it actually is defined as constituents unique to cannabis. So
about anywhere from about what is that that's about thirty
percent about I'd say about five to thirty percent. Now
fifteen to thirty percent of the constituents and cannabis are
only found in cannabis, so that's interesting, and those are
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known as cannabinoids. The cannabinoids affect the endo cannabinoid system
in the body, so endomeaning inside, and so this is
the inside the indigenous the within system that that cannabinoids
can effect, and we have a whole system that that
is affected by these cannabinoids. There are several important cannabinoids,
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especially delta nine tetra hydro cannabinol or THHC, which is
often considered the active graham. We'll talk about it briefly.
Of cannabis. There's a kindabi dial CBD. If you've heard
I mean, if you go anywhere, I don't know where
you guys live, where I live, there isn't a there. There.
There may be now, but there wasn't a a gas
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station that wasn't advertising CBD. You saw CBD everywhere, every
every cigarette shop, every every every gas station would would
say we have CBD. So that's cannabi dial. We have
cannabinall or cb N. We have delta eight tetra hydro
cannabin all. So remember Delta nine was THHC, Delta eight
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is a different form of it, and Canada by homine
or CBC, and finally cannaby cannabidrol or canna bidrawl. So
those are all the different chemicals important cannabinoids that are
in cannabis. Cannabinoids work on an already existing system in
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the body. Where randocannabinoids can affect nerves, we have endocannabinoids,
which means we create our own similar chemicals to these cannabinoids.
These act on two known receptors CB one in CB two,
which are G protein coupled receptors. Now we haven't really
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talked about G protein coupled receptors. Those are interesting because
they're they're they're coupled with something called the G protein,
which utilizes grinding and triphosphates, so GTP don't worry about
that so much. That's why they're called G protein though.
What is important about these G protein coupled receptors is
that they can indulge in something called amplification. So one
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small actvation of one of these receptors can create a
cascade that can then go on and actually affect a
lot of different things. So that's what's important about the
G protein. It's a very very very common receptor system
within the US, within the in the human body, so
lots of different G protein couple receptors. And there are
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two known non CB one non CB two CB like receptors.
So there's two known CB likes receptors. We said there's
only two CB receptors c B one and c B two,
but there's also two that are like them but are different,
and ones called non CB one and non CB two. Okay,
there are several well known endocannabinoids, so again these are
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things that we actually create in our bodies. One of
those is n A RACKADONOILUH rackadenoil ol ethanol ethanol amide
or A nandamide, which is also known as ae A,
to A rackadine oil, glycerol, t AG viod hamine or
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viotamine viotamine. Everything is vr O, d H A m
I n E n A rackadoyle dopamine or nada nada nolidine,
and others, of which the first two are the most understood.
So that's the ae A and the two ag CB
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one receptors are highly concentrated in the neurons of the
central nervous system, especially the cerebral cortex, hippocampus, lateral cadate, putamin, substantia,
niagra pars reticulate, the amygdala, which if you're familiar with
the amigudla, is very important with emotions and cerebellums. These
are really kind of can be basic, but the cerebral
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cortex is our higher thinking centers. These placements underscore their
role in cognition, brain function, and analoges so relief. Low
levels are present in peripheral neurons in the heart, adrenals, bladder,
vascular and lung, smooth muscle cells, and the intestines. SEEB
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one receptors play a role in regulation of movement, sleep, emotion, appetite,
body temperature, memory storage, and pain activation. Can inhibit type
five HT three ion channel, so type five HT three
five HT three is serotonin, so can inhibit type serotonin
type ion channels modulate the production of nitric oxide after
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sodium channel conductance. Excuse me not after alter sodium channel conductance,
which is very important to how nerves work and activate
the sodium hydrogen exchanger. So lots of interesting chemical effects
of these SEEB two receptors are found primarily in the periphery,
located in the immune and hematopoetic system. So the immune system,
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of course, we know what that means. The amutopoetics is
are the systems that create blood. Basically, so amoutopoetic is
means creation of blood. They're also present in the brain
and other tissues, though not as prominently as the CB
one receptors. Their presence in the lymphoid organs lymph tissues
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explains that its effects on cell mediated immunity by inhibiting
T cells, cytokine secretion, and humoral responses from B cells.
So this is all part of our immune system, and
these of course can explain anti inflammatory effects, so one
of the big things. One of the reasons why CBD
is everywhere is because it's supposed to be really help inflammation.
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Nandamide is a partial agonist at both CB one and
CB two, but has a higher affinity for CB one,
not also prefers CB one. TWOAG is a complete agonist
at both receptors, though it shows less affinity than nandamide
for either of them. So if there's nanimide is present,
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then that's more likely to activate CB one and CB two.
But if two AG does act does get into the
receptions of CV one and CB two, it completely activates them,
while ananimide only partially activates them. Vierotamine appears to prefer
CB two a little in the weeds. All right, we'll
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move on. THHC is the substance that produces a high,
which includes euphoria, relaxation, altering of perception and intensification of
ordinary sensory experiences such as eating, watching films, and music listening.
There can be excessive laughter and talkativeness and impaired cognition,
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motor skills and reaction time. Perception of time may be
altered and tactile sensations become more intense. Visual hallucinations may occur.
So Gwyndon and and Homin summarize some of how anti
no susception occurs. So anti no susception means pain relief.
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So anti no susception is our nerves that receive pain impulses.
Anti no susception means this prevents the provocation of pain reception. So,
when administered systemically, cannabinoids suppress no susceptive neurons in the
spinal dorsal horns. This is part of the spinal cord
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and the ventral posterior lateral nucleus of the thalamus. Remember
the thalamus is I always like to think of it
as a traffic cop of the brain. It tells where
signals should go in the brain. These effects do not
alter the physiological effects of non no susceptive nerds. In
other words, if it's not a neuron that is supposed
to conduct pain, then these do not alter those effects
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at all. Ya does this explain motor effects of these compounds.
So this isn't the end all be all of what's
happening with these chemicals, but it can't explain why it
helps with pain. Kind of anoid receptors have been demonstrated
on primary afferent neurons, So afferent means going towards the brain,
so that is what so primary affrot neurons, So these
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are what go towards. The name pre impost synaptic sites
in the spinal cord. Let's not get into all that.
It's anapsis is where neurons connect. Basically, they actually don't connect.
It's actually the space between neurons, but they send neurotransmitters
which propagate to the next neuron. Okay, let's not get
to into that. And the spinal cord using receptor binding
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and quantitative out a radiography. Okay, So that's how they
found this out in the dorsal horn of the spinal cord.
CB one receptors have been found on interneurons and on astrocytes,
So interneurons are between neurons, cells between neurons, so neurons
that are between neurons, so that's good. If they're there,
they can kind of slow that down, and astras sites
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are helper cells for the neurons. Ubregulation of cannabinoid receptors
is also observed in the spinal cord following nerve injury.
In other words, when you have a nerve injury where
it's it's trying to help you with the pain by
ubregulating those receptors. Okay, so those a brief overview of
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sort of about chemical parts. Let's talk about cannabis according
to Chinese medicine. So starting with the Shennong Ben saud Jing,
which if you remember, we're going to talk about it
some more, not in today's episode, but in our next episode.
Of the Shandong Ben Sludging is the first book of
individual herbs that it's still existing in Chinese medicine. So basically,
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if an herb is in shinanong Ben sludging, it's it's
amongst the oldest herbs in the Chinese material medica. So
starting with the Shenan Shennong Ben sludging Dam, which is
the modern Chinese name or cannabis city of Herba is
acrid with a balanced temperature. It treats the seven damages
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is according to the shadown about such as ben saujing.
It treats the seven damages, disinhibits the five viscera, and
precipitates the blood and cold chi. It is considered a
superior class herb, which is interesting because superior class herbs
are those herbs that you can take on a regular
basis and will provide health for you, at least according
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to a two thousand year old book. I forgot to say.
This is written in two hundred CE, so almost two
thousand years old, and it continues to say larger doses
may make one behold ghosts and phrenetically run about. Well,
that sounds like a lot of cannabis. The seed is
sweet supplements the center in boost chi. Now we do
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currently frequently, relatively frequently use houma ren which is the seed,
so that is commonly used. It is denatured so it
can actually grow any pie if you get the seeds.
But it is cannabis seeds. So to see the sweet
supplements to center in boost chi. Long term use may
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make one fat, strong and never senile. We'll make it
one fat. You're going to be you might be hungry,
but with cannabis in general, but I don't know so
much about the seeds. Modern usage of the seed Juma
Rn agrees that it is sweet and neutral and enters
the small intestine, large intestine spleen. It nourishes and moistens
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the intestines, nourishes y in and clears heat, and promotes
healing of sores. Sheen and Chen, which is one of
our major textbooks that we use in Chinese medicine for
herbs individual orbs. Chen Chen add that it moistens dryness
and benefits the hair, and enters the stomach rather than
the small intestine. Both of these texts it is the
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moist is in the moist laxative category of herbs. There's
some evidence cannabis may have been used in combination with
other herbs as an anisec for surgery in China. Some
speculated may have been part of Huatwo's technique, though there's
no direct proof other than linguistic commonalities. So if you're
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not familiar with Watso, he's considered one of the greatest
doctors in Chinese medicine and he was known for doing surgery,
so very interesting. So a reference to an aniset formula
using cannabis is including the Bianchoe hin Chu or heart
text of Bianchoue, written sometime between eleven twenty seven and
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twelve seventy CES. That's very interesting, and that's it for
cannabis at this point. It is just a brief introduction.
And with that introduction to cannabis in Chinese medicine, let's
get into today's herb, which is not a Chinese medical herb.
It's puntaka or blonde silium. This is in the family
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Plantagenasia and the species is specifically pantago Evata forsk. Remember
that this is fr SSK period. That's short for the
bodanists who classified it. So we see that in technical
species names often the medicial part is mostly the seeds
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blonde selium, though the epidermis and fresh plant may also
have medicinal uses, so the seeds actually the epidermis of
the seeds. The husk is actually also very important here.
Lots of other names include desert Indian wheat, flea seed.
If you look at the picture we have on the
first one, it looks it's the size of a flea.
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That's why it's called the fee seed. Blonde blonde, plainton
blood blood, plantago blonde, cilium, which of course with the knee,
so you see with a E n without an E
dietary fiber. Sometimes it's just called dietary fiber, Englishman's foot
ashpoola ipagola is isab ispagul, ispagol. All of those are
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iaveetic names. I think you know. It's different dialects within
Hindi and various Indian languages. Pale silium silio, sillium blonde,
it's just silium uh silium blonde, this one with a
y rather than an I in silium silium husk, Indigo,
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Indian plantago, uh espagoula again, that's gonna be isaa. That's
another iabetic name. San plankton, spogeluh ispagol I have not
come close to that. There's an H in there, so
that's why it's it's it's the same thing as is,
but one has an H after the G. One does P,
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D cumbents, P. S ispagula, P. Festigiata, and P and solaris.
All those last ones in the PE stands for plantago
and they're basically species. Other species names other than Plantago
elevata However, those are considered to be not in appropriate
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use at this point. You see to see them on
their older names for it. Basically, that's a lot of
names moving on. So when looking at alternative names, I
looked at WebMD, which usually has a really good list
of other names for the herbs we cover, and I
almost face pomped. It listed of relatively common Chinese irb
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Cha Cienza. That wouldn't be the first time I started
out covering a Western irb and found out it was
the same as a Chinese herb. Actually, that makes perfect
sense because the Chinese these aren't solidified from two thousand
years ago. There's a lot of Chinese IRBs that are
modern herbs that came from the West, so it's not
completely unreasonable. This can happen because while we learn Latin
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names when studying Chinese IRBs, often they are pharmaceutical Latin names,
which can be in are different than accepted botanical species.
Though this is happening less as like the newest version
of the Materia Medica does this a lot less than
the one that I studied originally. So I saw the
Cha Chians and went, oh, oh, well, it turns out
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that Cha Chiansa is the same genera Plantago, but is
a different species either Asiatica or Depressa is probably similar
enough so that if we can't find there isn't a
good Chinese description of our herb today, it would probably
be a good alternative. So let's find out. And we're
actually gonna find out it is a really good alternative,
So we're gonna we're gonna continue that thought there is,
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So let's talk about the Plantagenasier family. There is some
controversy of whether this family should be named ver Verona Cassier,
but plant Planta Planta genasier is currently more accepted. The
Planta Genasier or Plainton family is a diverse family of
flowering plants, covering about one hundred and seven genera and
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nineteen hundred species. Snap dragons and fox club digitalis are
members of this family. And I was just talking about
fox Club when I was talking when I did my
cardiac drugs just a couple of weeks ago, was it
last week? I can't remember anymore. So actually, very important,
fox love very important. I have a lot of verbal
stuff and some serious pharmaseugals have been derived from it.
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The banana like Plaintons are not part of this family.
Same word Plainton, but this is not. There are no
banana like Plaintons in this Plainton family. Don't ask me
where the names come from. There's lots of history there.
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Let's talk about speaking of history, let's talk about the
history of plantage and Nevada, which has been used medically
for hundreds, if not thousands of years. It is used
in iovetic medicine as well as Western robology. Several websites
refer to its use in ierobetic medicine for five thousand years.
It seems pretty ludicrous on the face of things. There
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are no written records that go anywhere near that far back,
and any archaeological evidence would be really important and fairly
well known. If they're quoting five thousand years, they should
quote the archaeological evidence. But it does speak to the
fact that this has been used for a long time
in hierabetic medicine. So there does seem to be you know,
the iabatic texts can go back two but twenty five
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hundred years. I don't know if it's in those, but
it's not far off from that twenty five hundred years,
so I think thousands of years in iobatic medicine seems reasonable,
not five thousand. It appears that it's also was is
used in Arabian and Persian medicine, and it's certainly has
roots in European medicine. In the US, it was first
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commercialized by John Harvey Kellogg yes at Kellogg and was
sold at his Battle Creek Sanitarium in the nineteen twenties.
That's where cornflakes was developed, and the Kellogg Cereal Company
came from so Yes, so they were the ones who
first commercialized it. If you haven't looked into the history
of cornflakes, it's interesting and it does start with its
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Battle Creek Sanitarium, which was incredibly popular in the nineteen twenties.
And so you know, he was kind of the I
guess doctor Wile, doctor Tropra of that age, you know,
very well known. In nineteen ninety eight, the FDA approved
the following The FDA, the Food and Drug Administration of
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the US approved the following health claim for cilium three
to twelve gram soluble fiber from cilium seed husk, when
included as part of a diet low and satury fat
end cholesterol, may reduce the risk of heart disease. Now,
the keyword there is may reduce. There actually isn't a
ton of evidence on this. We're going to talk about
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the evidence later on. So I there certainly isn't any
harm in doing this, and it probably helps heart disease,
but we're not entirely sure it does. Okay, so let's
talk about its traditional uses. An article on the Plants
for a Future Database says cilium has been used as
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a safe and effective laxative for thousands of years in
western herbal medicine. You know, I always love it when
people say thousands of years, five thousand years, all these things,
because they're saying it without any evidence, and it's hard
to say what was happening in thousands of years ago.
So unless we have some evidence, I want to see.
It's like one of the nice things about Chinese medicine
is when I say this Shandong ben seal jing, we
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know that's eighteen hundred years old, almost two thousand years,
and that's pretty definitive. But it's not necessarily a lot
of that going around in Western nerbal medicine. So there's
some you know, some of the growing Chin Creek medicines
and stuff like that. So both the dried seeds and
the seed husks are demulsiont emollient, and laxative. So these
are I like to say, old timey science words. They're not.
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They're used, but still, so let's check it out. So
they're demulsion Dimulson means a mucilaginous or oleagonists preparation that
forms a soothing protective film over a mucous membrane and
relieving minor pain and inflammation of that membrane. That's what
a demulsion is. Some mucilaginous means you know, mukaloid. You know,
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it's just it's like slimy and thick, that sort of thing.
An emollient is a preparation that softens the skin. So
it is demulsion, emollient and laxative, which of course promotes
the passing of stool. They are used in the treatment
of dysentery, catarrhal conditions of the genital are, urinary track
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and flame, membranes of the intestinal canal, as, etc. So
those are some of its use traditional uses. The PDR
for Herbal Medicines says it was approved by commission E.
Commissioning is from Europe, the European Union and they they're
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older now, that was in nineteen nineties, but they looked
at evidence at that point. So if something is approved
by commissioning, it usually has at least some evidence behind it.
So it was approved by commission Y for constipation diarrhea.
Interesting those are technically opposites, but it can be used
for both constipation diarrhea, raised levels of cholesterol and hemorrhoids.
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They continue to say celium is used for disorders where
easy bowel movements with a loose stool is desirable, eg.
In patients with anal fissures and hemorrhoids following anal rectal
surgery and during pregnancy. In folk medicine, the herb is
used internally for inflammation of the mucous membrane of the
eurog general tract and gastro intestinal tract. In dysentery externally,
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celium is used for gout rheumatism for uncles an end
as an analgesic so pain reliever can what traditional uses
let's head into aravetic medicine. So according to www. Dot
easyierveda dot com, plantado Evada's basic vedic properties include ferosa
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or taste. It's madura or sweet for guna or qualities
snigda snigda or has moisture guru or heavy and pechilla
or slimy makes that is kind of what it does.
The veria or energy is madua or sweet. If the
paca or post digestive effect is madura or it undergoes
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a sweet taste after digestion. And the dosher constitution is
vata pitta shimaka reduce. Again, I'm not great with my pronunciation,
so apologize reduces vitiated vata and pitta dosha, and some
say it balances down cappa and pitta doshas. So if
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you want to know more about this, I do a
couple deep dives on some of my early aervetic medicines.
I believe vashual ganda is one of those. And if
it goes into what all, this kind of breaks down.
So if you want to look into that a little
bit more, then I would recommend looking at those older
super observes. But in the meantime, www. Dot ezveta dot
com continues present continue to describe traditional Aabatic actions. That's
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the doctor who wrote the article. Externally, it relieves burning
sensation and edema. External applications indicated in vata pittaja type
of headache, inflammation ericephalis, which is a skin skin infection, boils,
et cetera. Treating the respiratory system. It expels out vitiated coffadosia,
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indicated in dry cough, in excretion, It induces urine production,
is indicated in painful mix duration or that's urination, uti,
urinary attract infection, et cetera. And it is indicated in
general weakness and promotes body strength. Web MD says the
(29:31):
serb is used and is effective for constipation, is lightly
effective for heart disease prevention and dyslipidemia, so cholesterol issues.
It's possibly effective for diabetes, diarrhea, hemorrhoids, Irboball syndrome, helping
the adverse effects of the weight loss drug or list
at and they say it is possibly quote possibly ineffective
(29:53):
unquote for non canceroust growth in the large intestine and
rectum or colorectal edema. So there you go. So let's
talk about dosage in preparation. According to the PDR, for
herbal medicines, the whole or coarsely chopped drug as well
as other galenic preparations are used internally. Sufficient. Food must
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be taken with the drug one hundred and fifty millimeters
of water per five grams of drug. One hundred and
fifty millions of water is about six ounces one They
did show a greater effect of cilium on cholesterol after
mixing with food. The dose should be taken one half
hour to one hour after taking another medication. The powder
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products should be administered as one teaspoonful that's three point
four grams to six grams of drug in eight ounces
of fruit juice or cool water, either stir briskly or
shake for three to five seconds, depending on the specific product.
And celium may be taken up to three times daily.
(30:59):
Going back to veic medicine. With that iarebetic website, Easy
aarebetic website, easyierveda dot com website. They state the dosage
is five to ten grams of the seed or seed husks.
They continue to say the seed husk of Ashrall Gull,
which is a name I'm not sure we covered, but
it's one of the Indian names. Aabetic names is soaked
(31:20):
in water for a couple of hours and later it
is consumed to treat distension of abdomen constipation and flatulence.
Seed of isabgull again another name. They use different names
of the same thing. Here, seed of aabgull is made
into powder and the powder is consumed in a dose
of three to five grams to treat burning sensation, excessive
(31:41):
thirst in the body, and fever. The seeds are frieding
ghee so clarified butter and consumed to treat irrable bowl syndrome.
Seeds of a sabagull are made into paste and applied
externally in cases of herpes localized swelling with burning sensation
an area affected with pustules. Cold infusion of the seeds
(32:06):
of it is subgoal is consumed in a dose of
thirty to forty millimeters to treat retention of urine. That's
a lot, well, cold infusion, I guess thirty to forty milliters. Okay,
it's not a lot necessarily, uh. Still indosage in preparation
web mdsas bluntsim has most often been used by adults
(32:27):
in doses of three to twenty four grams by mouth
daily for up to twenty weeks. Always drink at least
eight ounces of fluids for every three to five grams
of husk or seven grams of seed. Very important you
drink water with this. Then in fact, when we get
to cautions, that comes up again later. Quality of this
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it was difficult to find anything on what makes good
quality plantago Avata. Having said this, there are some concerns
with preparations of this herb on the market. Consumer lab
dot Com now iaching this a lot in my teaching,
and I love it. Consumer lab dot com is a
fantastic website. You do need to pay to do it.
(33:11):
But what they actually they have great monographs on a
whole bunch of different herbal supplements, herbal and non verbal supplements,
and they also test on products which I love. It's
like it's like Consumer Reports for supplements. Love it. So
that's consumer Lab run by a doctor who I think
really knows the stuff. So consumer lab dot Com says
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heavy metal, especially lead, is present in many common cilium supplements.
Out of the eight brands they tested, five of them,
including very common and well known brands, had lead levels
above recommended levels. They also said there are counterfeit products
on the market, which seems odd to me. These aren't
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expensive products to begin with. The bottom line is to
try to find tests and confirm reliable sources of the syrup.
So the bottom line is you might want to check
consumer lab dot com before getting into these supplements. So
Chinese medical actions, as we mentioned this, there is a
closely related Chinese irb che Cienza is so similar similar
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that Chen and Chen again, one of our major textbooks
that we use in Chinese arobology, so similar. I don't
have the books. I don't know the actual name of it,
but it's a great book. It is so similar to that.
Chen and Chen have an author's comment about this herb,
and it says there are many species of plantago within
the family of plant plantigenasier. In traditional Chinese medicine, Plantago
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depressa and Plantago asiatica are the two commonly used species,
for they are widely available on the Asian continent. Beyond
the Asian continent, Plantago cilium and Plantago arenaria can be
found in Spain, and Plantago ovata found in southern Europe
and northern Africa, which is of course our herb today.
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According to the literature, all species of plantago have similar
functions and indications and can be used interchangeably. Therapeutic effects
include diarysis, promotion of regular bowel movement and anti bacterial
and anti fungal effects. So with all of this in mind,
let's look at the Chinese meddical actions of che chins
and apply them to plantago avata. So Benski at all,
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that's another that's our other big there's I usually use
three big textbooks for single herb. Benski is another one
of those. So Benski and his team say, say this
herb is sweet and cold and enters the bladder, kidney, liver,
and lung. It promotes urination and clears damp heat, promotes
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urination just to solidify the stool, clears the eyes, and
expels phlegm and stops cough. So those would be its
Chinese functions. Chen similarly say it clears damp heat and
resolves damness, resolves damnness and stops diarrhea, clears liver heat
and benefits the eyes, and clears the lung and dissolves phlegm.
(36:12):
And both Chen and Chen and Benski and his team
say che Chians have first appeared in the Shakedown Ben Sajing.
That's the Divine Husbandman's classic of the Materia Medica in
the second century CE, making it among the first herbs
in written form and quite old. So there you go,
very very old herb or something similar to it. According
(36:34):
to trans medicine comparisons and combinations, there weren't any direct
comparisons or combinations for this herb in our literature. Searches.
Easy aerveda dot com does list several commonly used arabeta
compounds that contain plantago evada, including constawin capsule, laxo erb powder,
(36:56):
go lax powder, and laxo gold capsule contents. SO drugs
dot Com has a great summary of the chemistry of
plantago avato. So plontaco constituents include acids e g. Benzoic, caffeic, chlorogenic, cinemic,
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p cumoric, fumeric, celicilic, ersolic, vanilic, and excorbic. Includes alkaloids
such as boikine and amino acids, alanine, aspergene, histadine, and lysine.
The seeds are coated with mucilage twenty to thirty percent
(37:37):
located only in the epidermis of the testa seed. Other
plant carbohydrates such as sacarose, stachystachyose, sorbitol, and tyrosol have
also been reported. Leaf mucilage has been also been reported
and includes polysaccharides containing ramnose, l arabinose, mannose, galactose, and
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dextrose all sugars. Additionally, the seeds contain fixed oil protein,
eerdoids and tannins. Flabinoids found in plantago include epigenin, by kalin,
by kaline and scutularine. Eridoids found in plantago are occuban,
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plant plant taran oh man, Okay, let me see plant tarin.
You think I would study these things ahead of time,
but I don't. Uh planta arena low side. I'm sure
that's not pronounced properly. It's a big words. I'm not
even gonna spell it, and a cobby side, coboside a,
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cuboside a, cuboside. Other components of the plant include coaline, fat, resins, steroids,
and vitamins, saffras. At all say it possesses twenty two
point six percent of rabinose and seventy four point six
percent xylo, with a small amount of other sugars. So
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let's talk about the science. So according to Cooper, and
remember I said, that's government is from the website consumer
lab dot com and they have really great, really great
monographs on all of this so crediting to Cooperman. The
celium husk is about ninety percent fiber, most of which
about eighty percent of the fiber is soluble fiber. This
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soluble fiber can attract and bind water, absorbing about ten
times its weight and water forming a non fermentable that's
important viscous gel in the gut. This gel one occupies
boume and slows digestion, leading to fullness and helping to
regulate blood sugar levels, and two softens and adds bulk
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to stool, providing a laxative effect. The gel may also
bind to and reduce the absorption of a variety of compounds,
which may explain its cholesterol lowering effect, but also its
ability to reduce absorption of medicines, which is why you
want to separate medicines from taking this. The remaining twenty
percent of the fiber and cilium husk is insoluble fiber
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that can also add bulk to stool. Gouberman continues to
say celium may be useful as a laxative and in
treating fecal incontinence, ultero colitis or U see irritable bowel
syndrome IBS. Appetite and hunger control, sugar control, and lowering cholesterol.
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He says celium is the only type of supplemental fiber
recommended by the American gastro into Inerrological Association of the
AGA as a first line therapy for individuals with chronic
constipation not due to an underlying disease, particularly those with
low intake of dietary fiber. However, there appears to be
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insufficient evidence for the use of cilium in occasional constipation.
A task force of gastroineurology experts says cilium may be
useful in reducing fecal and continence. There does not appear
to be good evidence supporting the use of sylium and
ulter of colitis. In fact, I'd be a little concerned
that even in powderform, the seeds in a husk might
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be a little bit irritating to all sort of colitis.
So I'd be cautious with all sort of colitis using
this an sort of colitis. Having said that, if someone's
taking it and getting relief from it, I'm the last
person to say tell them to stop it. There is
some evidence it can be helpful for irritable bowel syndrome constipation,
irritoble bowl syndrome constipation as demonstrated in a small study
(41:44):
of children. To take that with a little bit of
grain of salt because of the small number and also
the fact that it's children not adults. Well, there have
been some positive small short term studies funded by companies.
There does not appear to be strong evidence for the
use of cilium and appetite and hunger control and weight
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loss meta analysis love my meta analyses men analysis showed
benefit for diabetics taking cilium, showing significant reduction in triglycerides,
low density lipoprotein, fasting blood sugar, and hemoglobin. A one
seeds that right there means that it's helpful for diabetes
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and for helping cholesterol. So our two questions that we
had are answered here. It is believe cilium helps sugar
levels by binding sugar and reducing its absorption. There does
not appear to be a significant evidence of type two
diabetes prevention with supplementation, so you can help with sugar
control once you have diabetes, but it does not seem
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to prevent diabetes. LDL and total cultural do appear to
be lowered with cilium supplementation and rat studies have shown
wound healing and anti imfloammatory actions. Okay, I through that
in there because we kind of mentioned there might be
some anti inflammatory action going on, but it's in rats,
so that does not mean it's in humans in any way,
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shape or form. So drug urban reactions when cilium or
plantajo avata is combined with levadopa, simax, which is the
overall maximum levels of the drug, is reduced an overall
bioavailability bioavailability of levodopa was improved, so that's interesting. There's
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some speculation that con commit and administration, so administration at
the same time with other drugs may slow the absorption
of the drug. This is not even an opinion and
there's no supporting evidence, but kind of makes sense. So
I don't know. Taking both a laxative and cilium could
increase the risk of hypercolemia. According to the PDR forbal medicines,
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hypercolemia is too much potassium in the blood and that
can be life threatening. A study of four male subjects,
only four showed lower carbonmazepine carbamazepine bioavailability when taken with
plantago Seeds way too small to make definitive answers out
of it, but it is something to kind of be
(44:19):
aware of in patience who might be taking carbon mazepine.
Taking lithium and silium together could decrease plasma levels and
efficacy of lithium, which is a hypo is an anti
manic drug, so if someone has mania, you can affect that.
Having said all of this, the American Rberral Product Association's
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Botanical Safety Handbook puts the serb in interaction Class A
herbs for which no clinically relevant interactions are expected. They
do recommend taking other drugs one hour prior to and
so several hours after cilium to avoid interference with absorption.
And finally Cooperman, Oh, this is more of a caution.
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In fact, I will move it under that, but I'm
gonna mention it now. Couberman says cilium can cause bloating,
gas diarrhea of taking too much, constipation if taken without
enough fluid, and allergies. So here we talk about concerns
of this. We just mentioned what Kuberman's concerns were. According
(45:25):
to the PDR for herbal medicinescilium is contraindicating patients who
have pathological narrowing in the gastrointestinal tract, intestinal obstruction, obstruction
or threatening obstruction of the bowel or ilias that is
all known as ilius in ilius, fecal impaction, difficulty swallowing,
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or esophageal narrowing, or difficulties in regulating diabetes melitas. They
continue under the heading of precautions and adverse reactions gas,
intestinal distension of flatulens, potentially severe but rare allergic reactions
and sneezing, chest congestion and wheezing and appetite suppression. Cilium
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contains various antigens, and cases of anaphylaxis and asthma have
been reported. Incorrect continue with the PDR for herbal medicines.
Incorrect administration procedures with too little fluid can cause the
product to swell and lead to obstruction of the esophagus
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or of the intestine, particularly with older people and patients
with exocrine pancreatic insufficiency should avoid use of solium due
to inhibitory actions on pancreatic light pace. And Finally, the
American Herbal Products Association's Bochanical Safety Handbook puts this herb
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in safety Class two D. The General Safety Class two
states herbs for which the following use restrictions and apply
unless otherwise directed by an expert qualified in the use
of the described substance. And then that sub two D
states other specific use restrictions has noted. And these restrictions
include taking with eight ounces of liquid. You gotta take
(47:14):
it with eight ounces of liquid. And they do have contraindications,
but they're very similar to what we just discussed with
the PDR for verbal medicine. So those are all kind
of all put together there, and that's pretty much it.
We made it through despite my coffee. I apologize, so sorry.
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There we go. Summary. We started our discussion today by
talking about cannabis and how it acts on the body
and how it acts according to Chinese medicine. From there,
we did our deep dive into plantago ovata or blonde cilium,
a very commonly used herb used to increase fiber and
help excretion. Well generally considered to be safe enough flue
(48:00):
should be taken, and certain conditions should avoid its use. Overall,
another fascinating and helpful herb, and as I said at
the beginning, incredibly commonly used herb. You know, if I
was just hanging out with several of my friends last night,
and none of them would take any herbs except for
(48:20):
one of them is taking regular cilium every day to
help with his various stuff, and so this is the
one herb out of all my friends that they're taking,
so very commonly used herb. In our next episode, we
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will be exploring another interesting Chinese herb, Shi shin, a
sorry herba or a sarum English is sarm or Chinese
wild ginger. This herb is in the Chinese medical subcategory
of warm acrid herbs that release the exterior under the
category of release the extra IRBs or is it one
(49:04):
of our books disagrees with that. Let's figure this out.
It can be an important nerb in certain circumstances, especially
as a potential substitute for some of the functions of
the band Ma huang or a fedra. But is it safe,
is it readily available or is it banned? We're going
to find out, and as usual, we will be exploring
(49:26):
something a little different. Please join us for this intriguing
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h e r b s dot com. I need to
spell that out because I used to teach in Australia
for many years and uh, whenever I'd say RB, one
of my teak year students would say, do you mean herbs?
Doctor Sperber and I actually I wasn't a doctor at
the point, mister Sperber, and I said, no, I mean herbs.
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So the H is silent in the US, It's not
silent in the British system so sperbsherbs dot com. Thank
you very much much and as usual we have quite
the bibili eraphy today was actually quite a big bibliography
and that's it. Thank you very much for joining us
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The preceeding was presented by doctor Greg Spermer. We would
like to thank Janelle Fowler's support and everybody else who
contributed to this program. Roger Campbell
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!