March 4, 2025 • 48 mins
This episode will be exploring another single Chinese herb: jīng jiè, Schizonepetae Herba, or schizonepeta. This herb is a relatively commonly used herb in the Chinese medical sub-category of warm, acrid herbs that release the exterior and can be used in colds, rashes, and even to help stop bleeding. As usual, we will explore all the intricacies of this herb as well as an explanation of its category. And as always, we will look at something a little different…Today we are going to look at diabetes from both biomedical and Chinese medical points of view. Each episode of the podcast will go into great depth about a single herb or formula. Besides covering the basics of herbology including category, and functions, we will explore the history, quality, science, pharmacology, evidence, and any potential interactions of each herb or formula. Please join us as we undertake another interesting expedition into the exciting universe of herbs exploring jīng jiè, Schizonepetae Herba, or schizonepeta!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Angelic.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome everybody to Sperbs Herbs Episode seventy nine. Today we're
going to be talking about jing j or schitzenepidae erba,
or just schitzinepita. I, as always, are your present is
your presenter? Are your presenter? I am your presenter, Doctor
GREGGS Ferber. Today we will explore another single Chinese herb,
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jing j skitzenepta erber or schitzinepita. This herb is a
relatively commonly used herb in the Chinese medical subcategory of
warm acrid herbs that release the exterior and can be
used in colds, rashes, and even to help stop bleeding.
As usual, we will explore all the intricacies of this
herb as well as an explanation of its category, and
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as always, we will look at something a little different. Today,
we are going to look at diabetes from both biomedical
and Chinese medical points of view. Please stay tuned for
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let's talk about diabetes a little bit and we'll see
why we're talking about is such an important disease. So
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diabetes melitis is a quote is a quote heterogeneous group,
a multifactorial primarily polygenic. So, in other words, lots of genes,
specific genes, polygenic syndromes characterized by elevated blood glucose caused
by a relative or absolute deficiency in the hormone insulin.
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Approximately thirty million, or nine point four percent of the
US population have diabetes, and more than a third of
adults have pre diabetes. It is a leading cause of amputation,
adult blindness, and a major cause of nerve damage, kidney failure,
and cardiovascar events such as stroke and milcardial infarct. With
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this in mind, let's take a closer look at diabetes
from medical, chemical and biochemical and Chinese medical points of view.
The pancreas, specifically through the beta cells of the islets
of longer hans. The islets of longer hans are clusters
of cells embedded in the intacrin portion of the pancreas
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produce insulin peptide hormones, so there's two major types of hormones.
Peptide hormones are made up of amino acids and steroid hormones,
which are made up of steroids, which are a chemical structure.
These islets make up around one to two percent of
pancreas cells. Those are the islets of longer hons. Insulin
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is anabolic, meaning it builds things in the body, specifically
glycogen which is how we store glucose in certain parts
of the body, and triasoglycral or tag tag, which is
how we store bats in the body and various proteins.
It is comprised of two am acid chains, an A
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chain with twenty onee mes amino acids and a B
chain with thirty amino acids. Insulin is produced, as most proteins,
by transcription of DNA into messenger RNA in the nucleus,
which is translated by ribosomes in the cytosol or the
cell inside the cell into two inactive polypeptide precursors, pre
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pro insulin and pro insulin. These two precursors are cleaved
in the gold gye bodies to form both the A
and B chains, as well as a third C peptide,
which is important for proper folding of insulin.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
From the gold.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Gie they are packaged and stored in secretary granules, which
are released by exocytosis, giving a given in appropriate stima.
So basically what happens here is you have like a
little bubble that's a secretary granule that holds a lot
of the insulin, and when there's a proper stimulus, usually
there's some calcium inflow or something along those lines, this
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little bubble or granule goes to the edge of the
cell and kind of melds with the cell membrane and
kind of lets the insulin out, and that process is
called exocytosis. Insulin is broken down primarily in the liver
and to a lesser extent in the kidneys by insulin
degrading enzymes. And this is an interesting thing. The half
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life of insulin is approximately six minutes. We want a
really short half life. Half life means how long does
it take for half of it to be gone, and
it's approximately six minutes. We want it to be short
because basically, insulin comes in when we have a big
meal and we want to store all those extra nutrients,
and then as soon as those nutrients are stored, we
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want to stop the effects of insulince. So we don't
want it to have a very long half life. So
six minutes sounds about right for me. Insulin causes cells
of the body to take in nutrients primarily glucose, promotes
their storage and inhibits the release and mobilization carb During
carbohydroate metabolism in the liver muscle, insulin increases glycogen synthesis.
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This is a glucose storage molecule. In muscle and atopose tissues,
the number of glucose transporters are increased in the cell membrane,
so it's these glucose transporters bring glucose into the cell,
so having more of them means more glucose cose into
the cell. In the liver, it also inhibits glyconeogenesis no sorry, glycogenolysis,
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which is the breakdown of glycogen back into glucose. We
don't want more glucose, we got plenty of it, so
it inhibits that glycogenolysis and inhibits gluconeogenesis, which is basically
forming glucose from constituents.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And again, we don't want any.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
More glucose, so we don't want any glycogenolysis or gluconeogenesis happening,
and both of these decrease the production of glucose. These
effects cause glucose levels in the blood to decrease, which is.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What we want.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
After insulin is released during limid metabolism, insulin inhibits liepase,
which is an enzyme that breaks down or releases that tag,
so releases fatty acids from the out of post tissues.
It also increases the transport metabolism of glucose, creating glyceryl
through phosphate used for triasoglycl TAG synthesis, so it breaks down,
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it prevents the breakdown of TAG, and it promotes the
creation of TAX. So in other words, it's sucking up
the free fatty acids. Again, we just had a meal.
There's free faty acids. We want TAG synthesis to happen,
trisyclysteral synthesis to happen. Insulin will also affect TAG in
circulating chylomicrons and very low density libroproteins VADL, so this
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is what we call the back closterol. These are not
good for heart health and promotes the creation of TAG
from glucose in the liver. So in other words, it's
really really trying to take fat acids out of the blood. Finally,
as far as protein synthesis is concerned, insulin increases the
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uptake of amino acids into the cells and protein translation
or it's the production of proteins. We're building proteins. The
secretion of insulin and glucagon are coordinated and tend to
be in opposite directions. When glucagon is low, insulin is high,
and vice versa. They are coordinated to maintain blood glucose
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levels between seventy tow one hundred and forty milligrams per
deca liter or three point nine is a decadesileter or
three point nine to seven point eight million miles per liter.
Insulin secretion is increased by higher levels of glucose, amino acids,
and gastrointestinal peptide hormones. These hormones harm These hormones together
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are called encretans and include glucagon like peptide one gop on.
If that sounds familiar, it should. This is all those
hot new weight loss medications. They're GLP one and inhibitors.
These are the the WEGAV and the what's the other
one that's some some semi glatitude or whateverde It's all
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those hot injections that help you lose twenty percent of
your weight. That's that's what these they're affecting. This GLP
one and there are. Another hormone is gastric inhibitory polypeptide
or g IP, also known as glucose depending insulinotropic peptide.
These are secreted in response to ingestion of food and
increase the sensitivity of beta cells to glucose decrease secretion
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of insulin occurs when there's a lack of dietary intake
of fuels, carbohydrates, amino acids, and during periods of physiologic
stress such as vigorous exercise, illness, or hypoxia.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
This is primarily caused by.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Noropinephrin epinephron, which are important in the fight or flight
response of the sympathetic nervous system and promote energy for
formation by mobilizing glucose and fatty acids. In other words,
they basically do the opposite of what insulin does. So
if that as background, let's talk about we can talk
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about type one diabetes. I'm just gonna mention that that's
basically there's there's a lot of we're not sure what,
but there's some sort of autoimmune reaction that destroys those
beta cells in the islets of longerhands that we were
talking about, and insulin stops being produced pretty much.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
In type two.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
There's a difference in type two, there's a combination of
insulin resistance. In other words, the cells that insulin treats
don't react the same way to insulin as it did previously,
and dysfunctional beta cells. So not as much insulin as
actually being produced. Some is being produced but not enough
to actually be fully functional, and combine that with insulin
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resistance at the target cells, then you have type two diabetes.
Polyuria or too much frequent urination, and polydipsia or thirst
are often presenting signs and symptoms. Since there is some
insulin secretion, many of the complications of diabetes are blunted,
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including less ketogenesis and reduced risk of diabetic ketoacidosis.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
While there is a.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Strong genetic component to its development, it is not completely
understood how it develops and does not involve viruses or
an autoimmune response. What is diabetes According to Chinese medicine
so FLAWSNC you have an excellent entry on diabetes in
Chinese medicine in their book The Treatment of Modern Western
Medical Diseases with Chinese Medicine. Diabetes melitis is traditionally characterized
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as Shauca wasting thirst or wasting and thirsting. In juvenile
onset diabetes, the disease mechanism appears to be a natural
endowment in sufficiency, whereas in adults this disease typically typically
begins with long standing heat in the stomach coupled with
spleen vacuity. This heat may be due to overheating over
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excuse me, overeating hot, spicy, greasy, fatty thick flavored foods,
or alcohol, or too depressive heat of the liver and
stomach and gives rise to a large appetite and or
rapid hungering after meals. The sleen vacutie may be due
to overeating sugars in sweets and or fatty thick flavored foods,
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too much thinking, too little exercise, and too much taxation fatigue.
Spleen vacuity is responsible for obesity and fatigue initially, and
also for anorexia, so lack of appetite, emaciation, loss of weight,
and muscular atrophy as these as this disease progresses. If
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heat endures, it eventually damages and consumes yen fluids in
the stomach and lungs, giving rise to polydipsia, that's thirst.
If lung's stomach yin vacuity reaches the kidneys and is
complicated by yen vacuity due to aging, lung's stomach yen
vacuity may evolve into kidney yin vacuity. If spleen chi
vacuity evolves into kidney young vacuity. There may be kidney
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yin and young dual vacuity. Kidney yin and or young
vacuity give rise to urinary problems as well as impotence.
Because all adult diabetics also exhibit signs and symptoms of
liver depression cheese stagnation. Long term cheese stagnation coupled with
chim blood vacuity typically gives rise to blood stasis. In addition,
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sleen vacuity often also becomes complicated by damp heat which
pours downward, resulting in sores, urinary disturbances, impedence, restless leg syndrome,
end or vaginitis. And that is a short introduction to diabetes.
With that, let's get into today's herb. So we're gonna
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be talking about jing j skiffs, skitzenepata. This is from
the family Laviate or laminassier. We talk about why there's
both of those. Standard species is Skitzenepata ten tenuel Folia
brick b r i Q. That's the the botanist who
who classified it. The medicinal part is the whole herb
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that we're going to talk about individual parts as we
go along here. Other names for this include Japanese catnip
harry sage, Japanese mint, Nepada multifi, multifida, nepa, ten tenua, folia,
skittsen nepta, multi fitta, multified a tenufolia just tenufolia, shuming
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or mouse water, chestnut, jassu, silan, gon howe hianja chang
jing j and in Japanese k guy k e i
g a, I don't know how to pronounce Japanese or Korean,
which is yong gai hong k h y o n
g g a. Benski and his team say the So
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there's three major textbooks we use.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We'll talk about all three of them right now.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So the first one is Benski's textbook, and they say
the dosage is four point five to nine grams. Chen
Chen also has a book on individual herbs. It's a
different book than when we talk about formulas, and they
say the dose is five to ten grams, so basically
very similar with a maximum dosage of thirty grams. And
Brandon wise Men, our third textbook that we usually use,
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say the dose is three to ten grams.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So they go a little bit lower than some of
the others.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Let's talk about that Labyatia family is also known as
i mentioned as the Lamiassier family. It includes flowering plants
commonly known as the mint, dead nettle, or sage family.
Generally lemonossier lamiassier is Lamiassier is considered the more correct name,
though laviate is a correct alternative. These include many aromatic
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This whole family includes many aromatic culinary medicinal herbs, including
basal mint, rosemary, sage, savory, marjoram oregano, hissop, thyme, lavender, salvia, catnip,
oriental motherwort, and pririlla.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
All those. It's a very useful family.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There are approximately two hundred and thirty six genera and
up to seventy five hundred species, and the flowers are
usually bisexual. Category is According to Bensky, it puts the
herb in the warm acrid herbs that release the exterior
subcap category under herbs that release the exterior Chen say
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it is in the wind cold releasing herbs subcategory of
exterior releasing herbs. And bran Wiseman say it is a
warm acrid extra resolving medicinal under the exter resolving medicinals
category In other words, these all say pretty much the
same thing, just slight slightly different translations of the words
individual words. All three of our sources say it is acrid,
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are spicy and slightly warm, and enters the lung and
liver channels.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And by the way, all three of.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Our sources saying the exact same thing on these is
kind of a rarier. There's usually a little bit of
a difference between the three books. So the fact that
they all agree on this is quite an interesting piece
of information.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So let's talk about the history. I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
One or two major texts that mention the history of
a herb disagree here. The discrepancy seems relatively easy to resolve.
Bensky and their team say this herb was first mentioned
Woopoo'sman America or the Woophoo Ben Su, written during the
Three Kingdoms period, which lasted from two twenty to two
eighty c. E. Chen and Chen say the original source
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of the serb is the Shendong Ben sau Jing, Divine
Husband's Classic of the Material America, written in the second
century CE, so before the Wuping's Material Medica. The Shendong
Ben Sajing is the oldest book that describes individual rbs
that we still have today. There may have been other books,
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but they no longer exist, so this is one that
we still have today.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So it's when a herb is.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Mentioned in Shandong ben Soljing, it's basically amongst the oldest
herbs were aware of at least written form. And since
it is actually in my admittedly modern version of the
Shanngnam ben Soljing, and that it would predate the Woupho's
material Medica, it seems obvious which was the first mention
of the serb, which was the Shinnan Bensajang. And we're
going to see some quotes from just a minute, So
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before we get in that, let's talk about this this
category subcategory. So we have talked about this category subcategory
of verbs several times during an adventures examining Chinese herbs,
and we'll repeat that information here in the for completeness sake.
According to Benski, exterior releasing herbs are those that release
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disorders dis lodged in the very superficial levels of the
body when external pathogenic factors, including wind heat, when cold,
wind damness in summer heat invade the body, they first
attack its superficial exterior aspects. Symptoms associated with the exterior
then appear chills, fever, headache, stiff neck, and general muscle aches.
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Sometimes sweating will appear, which resolves the condition, in which
case no treatment is necessary. At other times, however, there
will be an absence of sweating, or even though there is, sweating,
is not accompanied by any change in the condition. At
this juncture, herbs that release the exterior are needed. Most
exterior releasing herbs are diaphoretics that as they release or
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expel the external pathogenic influences through sweating. There is a
saying in Chinese medicine. When the diseases in the skin,
sweating will bring it out. When a disease progresses slightly
further into the body, it is said to lodge in
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the muscle layer. The clinical presentation that includes fever, general
body aches, and profuse sweating. At this stage, especially when
the patient has sweated without any beneficial change in their condition,
is appropriate to use the subset of herbs that release
the muscle layer. The most prominent member of this group
is cinemamu rimulous guadure, which is cinnamon twig. Some of
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the herbs that release the exture, have additional functions stopping
coughs and wheezing, controlling pain or spasms, inventing rashes such
as measles. We're going to see that are herb today
does some of those. So that's the category of herbs
that release the exterir. Let's get into the subcategory of
warm acrid herbs that release the sixterre where our herb resides,
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so they continue. Benski and his team continue to discuss
the subcategory of warm acrid herbs that release the exterior.
Herbs that release the exterior can be further divided by
character and function into warm acrid and warm acrid and
cool acrid classes. The warm acrid herbs dispel wind cold
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and are used for exterior disorders. When the fever is mild,
the chills severe, and there are other signs and symptoms
of wind cold, including a headache, body and neck pains,
and absence of thirst. So that's the categories that our
herb today is inging j is in. Let's talk about
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quality jingjay. So Benski and his team say, good quality
consists of light, green, long and dense spikes with a
strong aromatic fragrance. Have this other textbook that I love
called the Chinese medicinal identification. An illustrated approach by Jiao
and Chen says jingjay generally have a square rod shape
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with branching at the upper portion Externally, pale yellowish green
or pale purplish red with a light brittle texture and
an aromatic odor. Superior quality of jingj has a pale
yellowish green color, long and dense flower spikes, and a
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potent aroma. What does this herb do so? According to
ben Ski, jingj releases the exterior and dispels wind for
exterior patterns of.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Either wind cold or wind heat.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Depends on the herbs with which it is combined. Also
for carbuncles or boils when they first erupt, especially when
accompanied by chills and fever events, rashes, and alleviates itching
for the initial stage of measles and puritic skin eruptions.
Puritic means itchy skin eruptions. Finally, it stops bleeding as
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an auxiliary herb for hemorrhage, for example, blood in the
stol are uterine bleeding. Chenchen say it releases the exterior
and dispels wind. It can be used for both wind
cold and wind heat, and is rather mild in action.
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It is acrid yet not damaging. To the end, it
is warm but not drying. It also dispels wind and
releases muscle spasms used to treat postpartum spasms, trismus and
muscle cramps and spasms. Trismus is the spasm of the
jaw muscles causing the mouths reming tightly closed, such as intentness. Additionally,
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it dispels wind, vents rashes, and alleviates itching, and finally
it stops bleeding from various causes. Bran Wiseman say, it
dispels wind and resolves the exterior outthrusts papules and relieves itching.
Papuoles are basically raised sores, raised rashes, just so outthrust
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papules and relieves itching disperses sores in stanches bleeding and
the Divine Farmer's material medica that's that Shennang Ben sau
Jing that this originally was found says this is a
middle class herb. So the Divine Farmer's Materia medica kind
of breaks down herbs into superior, middle and inferior class herbs.
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Superior class should be taken regularly to light and to
help health and the body middle class serves should be
taken readily when there's a disease process. An inferior should
only be used when necessary, you know, to combat a
disease for a short period of time. So Divine Farmer's
Materia medica says, this middle class herb is acrid and warm.
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It mainly treats cold and heat, mouse fistulas, scrophulas, and sores.
It breaks bound and gathered chi, precipitates blood stasis, and
eliminates damp impediments, so you know, quite a bit different
than what we would use it for modern which we
often see with the SDNAN been suching and finally Chinese
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medicinal identification illustrated approach. It usually has one sentence or
two on the actions of the herb, and they say
joah and Chen say it resolves the exterior, disperses wind,
invents rashes. So there are so veral preparations. Menski as
usual has a good discussion of those. First preparation is
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skitzinepitas spikes or jingj sui or skitzenepitas. Spika would be
the Latin for that. Spikes are much more aromatic component
in effect than the entire aerial parts, which include both.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Stalks and spikes. That's our normal herb.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Ancient formulas specifically called for the spikes in order to
disperse wind from the head and face. For example, the
formula skits and nepota and sepassion of covia powder to
overcome pathogenic influences. Jing fung Bai Deusan combines skitz andepetas
spikes with other wind dispersing herbs to treat chills, fever,
and aching of the head and body. Likewise, the gramm
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Materia medica are the Bensau gong Mu, written in fifteen ninety,
notes that the spikes can be taken alone as a
powder with wine to treat all disorders of the head
and eyes, dry blood consumption, pathogenic end headache, vertigo, and disness.
Another form of this is dry fried schitz neepta or
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chow jingj Refrying over a medium flame will moderate moderate
the exteri releasing action of schitzinepita, which which is preferred
in those patients who are already sweating and who may
otherwise still need to use this herb. In front of that,
we have charged schitz and nepita called jingj tan also
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called hajingj basically means black Jingj, jingj sweet tan, and
j sweetan. Frying the herb over a hot flame or
baking at two hundred and ten degrees celsius until it
turns black, but without destroying its normal shape, will encourage
the herb to enter the blood level and exercise its
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ability to regulate the blood and stop bleeding. In rectification
of the meaning of material medica, the ben sau jung
Riden in sixteen twenty four, jiangshan Lay notes that this
herb fried black has already lost its lights, ending spreading
and dispersing qualities. Because blackness can enter the blood, it
can stop the chaotic movement of blood. Chen Chen says
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jingsuay or flaskitts nepata, the flower treats wind invasion affecting
the head. By comparison jing j herbiskits and nepita, the
aerial part of the plant treats wind invasion throughout the body.
Brown Wiseman adds it should not be decocted for long.
Use raw to affuse the exterior and outthrust papules into
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disperse sores. You start stir fried or char fried to
stanch bleeding, so they add in char fight. You know,
Benski said char fright is good for stopping bleeding. They
add in stir fried is also good for stopping bleeding.
That's what Brann Wiseman do.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So what does this RB do? In Western terms?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
The PDR for Herb Herbal Medicines does not have an
entry for this herb. Web MD says it is used
for common cold, fever, sore throat pain, ximuy topic, dermatitis, psoriasis,
many other conditions, but there's no good scientific.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Evidence to support these uses.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
WebMD I think properly is a little conservative in what
they say is appropriate uses. I mean, is the science
good science are not behind these, you know, so not
surprising as usual, Benski has an excellent commentary on this
herb that's getting his team it. Casina Urbia jingj is
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quite harmonious in nature, acrid but not overly dispersing, slightly
warm but not drying. It's slight ascending qualities which enter
the liver and lungs allow it to be used for
both wind heat and wind cold, and also for venting
wind from the blood. This letter act later action latter
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action is so marked the Treasury of Words on the
material America Medica Bensa hui Yan. In the written in
the Ming dynasty which lasted from thirteen sixty eight to
sixteen forty four, blouds it as the herb for wind
in the midst of blood of the blood each in
every wind toxing condition just at the threshold of manifesting
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but not completely about to disperse but not dispersing, can
be cleared up with the use of unprepared jing.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
J seeking accuracy.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
In the material Medica ben South cheu Jen, written in
seventeen seventy three, explains its interactions with sepassionate.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Covi radix fong Fung.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Jingj, it says, is not like sepassion of Covi ratix
for fung Fung, whose chi is not light in lifting
and which must enter the flesh of bones to drive
out the wind. Thus, in order to dissipate and disperse
the wind pathogen, when one uses se passion of Covi
ratix fong Fung, it is necessary to also use jingj.
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This is because jingj can enter the muscles and skin
to dissipate and disperse, and thus compliments the passion of
Cove ratix's fung fung deeper action. Furthermore, since jingj also
enters the liver channel the wind and wood organ and
the liver is the realm of blood storage, jingj is
also able to unblock and facilitate the blood vessels to
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treat such symptoms as nosebleed, intestinal wind, irregular menstrual bleeding
on puperl fainting, toxic swollen sores, and blood heat. Resolution
of all of these symptoms relies on its light lifting
as a tool for dissipating and draining. How could one
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regulate the cheat in the organ of wind and wood
but not treat the blood as well. I Therefore, while
jingj enters the chi aspect of the liver and also
enters its blood aspect, and that's it basically on commentary
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for this herb. But we do have some comparisons. Benski
compares it compares it with one other herb, and that's
Perilla folium or zissu ye. Now, even if you're not
a Chinese erbilist, you're probably familiar with fulion pilla or
perila folium. This is uh the green leaf that is
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is in if you do high end sushi, they will
give you a green leaf, that's perilla folium. It's but
one of its functions is to help with seafood poising,
so that's why it's used a lot with with sushi.
But even if you haven't had seen the leaf itself,
you've probably gotten those those sushi's from the from the
supermarket where it has like the the green little fence
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that they give you a little bit that is supposed
to be a representation of prilo perla folium is that
little green plastic stuff they will they will put in
uh in with the sushi. So that's perlofolium or zisuya
so combined, so compared with jingj. Both are extra relea
seen in sweat inducing herbs. But while perlofolium zisuya disperses
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wind cold, jingj is both stronger at dispelling wind and
can also be used for either wind cold or wind heat.
Prolofolium's ziua other actions make it the herb of choice
for treating wind cold when there are middle burner issues
excuse me, cheese, sagnation, or pregnancy. Jingj also acts to
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disperse wind heat from the blood and relieve spasms. Let's
talk about some combinations. Benski and his team combines the
herb with three others. First, one is Angelicus and ensistratus
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are dung Angelica sinensis rateix do guey harmonizes the blood
by tanifying and moving it. Jingj expels wind from the blood,
and its charred format regulates blood flow and stops bleeding.
Treasury of words the material Medica notes for any pattern
of bleeding, if it tends to stop and start seeming
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to flow but not properly, then charging jay can be
used to stop it. When used together, each of these
herbs compliments the other such that the blood is nourished
and regulated, wind is expelled from the blood, and the
bleeding is stopped. This is appropriate and very effective for
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conditions such as intestinal wind with bleeding from the rectum.
One ancient emergency formula listened in Fine Formulas for Women
or Furen liong Fong, written in twelve thirty seven, for
postpartum collapse in coma called concurrent powder or jauja San,
instructed that the two herbs be powdered then decocted, with
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some wine added before administration. This combination is now frequently
used for wind resulting from blood deficiency with such symptoms
as tremors of the hands and feet or itching of
the skin. So another combination is with sephoro floss or
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hui Hua that's h uai huah meaning flower hu a
and sephora floss why Hua is bitter and slightly cold,
with a specific function of cooling the blood and stopping bleeding,
particularly in the bowels. When the two herbs are used together,
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the hemostatic or blood stopping action of charts kit sinnepata,
herba jingj tan is led into the intestines by sephoro
floss why why hua, where it supplements the hemostatic action
of sephora floss huy huahlest pair of herbs is strong
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enough to be used as a two herb formula for
recto bleeding from intestinal wind or hemorrhoids. The effects are
even better if combined with auranti fructos zurka and platikate
cacumen or sibaya. This is the formula Sephora flower powder
or huai hua san. If one's primary purpose is to
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cool the heat in the blood to treat the root,
use unprepared sephora flows immatures or why me.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
On the other hand.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
If the focus is on quickly stopping the bleeding. To
address the branch, use the charred form. And finally, our
third combination is with Fasioli semen or churchal do and
ancient adage says that all pain itchy sores pertain to
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the heart. Fazioli semen or churshall doe enters the heart,
cooling and clearing heat. Talks in promoting blood flow and
treating sores. Effective medical formulas arranged by category observes that
Faziola semen churshall doe treats all abscesses, sores, and red
and swellings, regardless of the severity. Just mix with water
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and apply topically.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
All are cured.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Excisinemtave, spike e jing j suie is light and raising
in nature. It clears wind from the blood and treats
itchy skin. Together, these herbs complement to clear heat and
promote the flow of blood, resolve toxicity, expel wind, reduce rashes,
and alleviate itching. The combination is often used in the
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treatment of itchy wind, rash, and swollen toxic sores. It
can be decocted and taken internally or powdered mixed with
egg white and applied externally. Contents. So, according to Benski
and his team, the contents of this herb include tri
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turpe uh triturpeting try turping, sapanin, glycosides I got it
and other glycosydes and tannins, as well as rival flavon,
thiamen nicotinic acid. Those are all B vitamins, alpha globulins
and beta globulins, fats and carbohydrates chin highlight essential oils
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and say about zero point four to three to two
point zero five percent are these essential oils and include menthone, pulogone, isomanthone, isopulogone,
and lemonon lemonon lemonine, excuse me lemonine, and then also
has schizo that skitsomodiol and skits a nippa to side
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a through e. That's always my tongue twister. Category of
discussion on the contents, we talk about its contents in
just a few minutes of what they do, and just
in just a few more minutes when we talk about
the science here, let's let's get to the science. So
according to Chen Chen, the pharmacological effects of jingj include
the following actions anti poretic which means the lower's fevers
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and diaphyretic means it induces sweating in rabbits, antibiotic and analgesic,
so it helps pain in vitros and not in animals.
Hemostatic so stops bleeding in mice and rabbits, and the
volatoils can cause broncho dilation treating wheezing in dyspnea. One
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review study this is Joao and Joe discuss various actions
and the constituents causing them. So it's antiporetic from nepa
nepeta lacta, a terpenoid compound, santi oxidant from phenolics, flavonoids
and anthocyanine antha anthocyonine, anti inflammatory ab irritation. In other words,
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it's against ir irritation and anti tumor from volatile oils.
It is also hemistatic, immunomodulatory and anti viral and antibacteria,
antibacterial from alpha alpha terpenine terpenol formate and P C
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simonin simonin C y M E n I N simonin
volatile oils. Antibactera from various volatile oils as well specific
volatile oils.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That was a good study that I didn't overview on that.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
So that's why I want to make sure I got
it in here. Let's talk about drug herb interactions in general.
Literature search did not find any potential drug herb interactions
with this herb, and I did it a lot.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I really tried to find it.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
But having said that, there was one study that showed
that one constigent of this herb, the volatile oil skitzin nepotin,
may effact cytochrome P for fifty three A one and
two slash two one two two E one and two
D six. So when this occurs, when I see and
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there's lots of studies for this, and generally I don't
include them as cautionary tells because it's one constituent out
of hundreds. Now, skiz and nepotin just by the name,
because this is skitzenepiitae is the herb. When you see
a constituent that has most of the herbs name in it,
it usually means that constituent is it was first discovered
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and is primarily in this herb, so it's particularly special.
So this volatile oil skits nepotin is probably pretty specific
to this HERB for the most part, which is probably
a fairly important constituent of this, but it's still only
one constituent and so, and who knows when all the
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other constituents are combined if it's if it's going to
mitigate some of these effects. So usually when I see
a single constituent causing an aspect of drug ERB interactions,
I don't discuss it. I don't include it as an
issue because I don't think it is an issue, though
others do, so I want to make put that out here,
So that's what's happening here. This was a single component
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and was based on an in vitro and rat study,
so that's another aspect. Generally, when I'm looking for drug
ERB interactions, I want to see them in humans, because
all the studies in the world in rats and mice
and animals and in vitro in test tubes doesn't mean
anything if it doesn't have the same effects in humans,
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and it often doesn't, So until it's in humans, it
really isn't an interaction that I'm worried about. Therefore, this
is not strong evidence of interact actions, especially since they
were contradictory. Some showed induction in mice and inhibition in vitro.
So it was a little bit of a of a
different things. So I don't think there's anything to be
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super concerned about here with the drug ERB interactions.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
And there's another.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Source text that I really like and usually has a
really good handle on Chinese serves. And this is a
relatively commonly used Chinese RB. It's not rarely used, you know,
it's maybe not commonly used either somewhere in the middle.
But and that that book is the American Orberal Products
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Associations Botanical Safety Handbook, And like I said, that usually
has a good chunk of our Chinese IRBs. Does not
have an entry on the SRUB, and they give nice
little categories of risk for drug ERB interactions as well
as overall concerns. And since it doesn't have an entry
on the SERB, we don't know what that's saying, but
I want to mention that it doesn't that's usually in
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day indication. That is not one of the most commonly
used Chinese irves. So I've used it, and so I
don't think it's uncommonly used. It's just not as common
as other Chinese cerves. So what are the concerns about
the IRBs, so Benski and his team note several concerns
with jing J. Under the heading of cautions and contra indications,
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they say contra indicated where there is deficiency of the
exterior fully erupted measles or open sores, or an absence
of pathogenic wind of any kind, so you need some
wind in order to use the serb. Under the heading
of toxicity, they say allergic reactions affecting the skin and
digestive system have been reported, so be cautious about allergies here.
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Che Chen have several cautions and contra indications. Jingj is
not recommended if perspiration is not due to wind, such
as impatients with way defensive cheat deficiency, or yin deficient heat,
and it's contra indicated for patients experiencing spasms because of
liver wind, So if liver wind or causing spasms, don't
use this herb. They also say JINGJ is contramunicated in
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cases of fully erupted measles or open sores, and while
taking JINGJ, patients should avoid foods such as fish, crab, goose,
or duck, as consumption of these foods may increase itching.
Of the skin, so that's interesting. It's no fish, crab, goose,
or duck. That's not one that I've heard of in
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the past, though often you know, traditionally there are food
changes that happen with herbs. So that's that's good to
know the herb all and that's basically our herb for
today we start today. We started with our discussion with
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the discussion of insulin diabetes, and then we did a
dive into a useful and interesting Chinese herb, jingjay skits
an nepaa heerba or just skitzinepada. This herb is relatively
commonly used herb for treating colds, muscle spasms, rashes, and bleeding,
and it seems relatively safe, if a little on the
mild side. We spend a good amount of time discussing
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the intricacies, including preparations cautions in comparisons to other herbs,
and with that we include another explanation of a very
useful Chinese herb. Our next episode in two weeks will
be looking at another herb of the world, plantago ovata
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or blonde silium. This is commonly used as a fiber supplement,
but can it also help diabetes in cholesterol. We're going
to find out. As always, we will do our deep
dive into this herb herb and look at its traditional uses, preparations,
interactions and cautions, and as usual we will be adding something.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
A little different.
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jing j skitzenepta erber or schitzinepita. This herb is a
relatively commonly used herb in the Chinese medical subcategory of
warm acrid herbs that release the exterior and can be
used in colds, rashes, and even to help stop bleeding.
As usual, we will explore all the intricacies of this
herb as well as an explanation of its category, and
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let's talk about diabetes a little bit and we'll see
why we're talking about is such an important disease. So
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diabetes melitis is a quote is a quote heterogeneous group,
a multifactorial primarily polygenic. So, in other words, lots of genes,
specific genes, polygenic syndromes characterized by elevated blood glucose caused
by a relative or absolute deficiency in the hormone insulin.
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Approximately thirty million, or nine point four percent of the
US population have diabetes, and more than a third of
adults have pre diabetes. It is a leading cause of amputation,
adult blindness, and a major cause of nerve damage, kidney failure,
and cardiovascar events such as stroke and milcardial infarct. With
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this in mind, let's take a closer look at diabetes
from medical, chemical and biochemical and Chinese medical points of view.
The pancreas, specifically through the beta cells of the islets
of longer hans. The islets of longer hans are clusters
of cells embedded in the intacrin portion of the pancreas
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produce insulin peptide hormones, so there's two major types of hormones.
Peptide hormones are made up of amino acids and steroid hormones,
which are made up of steroids, which are a chemical structure.
These islets make up around one to two percent of
pancreas cells. Those are the islets of longer hons. Insulin
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is anabolic, meaning it builds things in the body, specifically
glycogen which is how we store glucose in certain parts
of the body, and triasoglycral or tag tag, which is
how we store bats in the body and various proteins.
It is comprised of two am acid chains, an A
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chain with twenty onee mes amino acids and a B
chain with thirty amino acids. Insulin is produced, as most proteins,
by transcription of DNA into messenger RNA in the nucleus,
which is translated by ribosomes in the cytosol or the
cell inside the cell into two inactive polypeptide precursors, pre
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pro insulin and pro insulin. These two precursors are cleaved
in the gold gye bodies to form both the A
and B chains, as well as a third C peptide,
which is important for proper folding of insulin.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
From the gold.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Gie they are packaged and stored in secretary granules, which
are released by exocytosis, giving a given in appropriate stima.
So basically what happens here is you have like a
little bubble that's a secretary granule that holds a lot
of the insulin, and when there's a proper stimulus, usually
there's some calcium inflow or something along those lines, this
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little bubble or granule goes to the edge of the
cell and kind of melds with the cell membrane and
kind of lets the insulin out, and that process is
called exocytosis. Insulin is broken down primarily in the liver
and to a lesser extent in the kidneys by insulin
degrading enzymes. And this is an interesting thing. The half
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life of insulin is approximately six minutes. We want a
really short half life. Half life means how long does
it take for half of it to be gone, and
it's approximately six minutes. We want it to be short
because basically, insulin comes in when we have a big
meal and we want to store all those extra nutrients,
and then as soon as those nutrients are stored, we
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want to stop the effects of insulince. So we don't
want it to have a very long half life. So
six minutes sounds about right for me. Insulin causes cells
of the body to take in nutrients primarily glucose, promotes
their storage and inhibits the release and mobilization carb During
carbohydroate metabolism in the liver muscle, insulin increases glycogen synthesis.
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This is a glucose storage molecule. In muscle and atopose tissues,
the number of glucose transporters are increased in the cell membrane,
so it's these glucose transporters bring glucose into the cell,
so having more of them means more glucose cose into
the cell. In the liver, it also inhibits glyconeogenesis no sorry, glycogenolysis,
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which is the breakdown of glycogen back into glucose. We
don't want more glucose, we got plenty of it, so
it inhibits that glycogenolysis and inhibits gluconeogenesis, which is basically
forming glucose from constituents.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And again, we don't want any.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
More glucose, so we don't want any glycogenolysis or gluconeogenesis happening,
and both of these decrease the production of glucose. These
effects cause glucose levels in the blood to decrease, which is.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
What we want.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
After insulin is released during limid metabolism, insulin inhibits liepase,
which is an enzyme that breaks down or releases that tag,
so releases fatty acids from the out of post tissues.
It also increases the transport metabolism of glucose, creating glyceryl
through phosphate used for triasoglycl TAG synthesis, so it breaks down,
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it prevents the breakdown of TAG, and it promotes the
creation of TAX. So in other words, it's sucking up
the free fatty acids. Again, we just had a meal.
There's free faty acids. We want TAG synthesis to happen,
trisyclysteral synthesis to happen. Insulin will also affect TAG in
circulating chylomicrons and very low density libroproteins VADL, so this
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is what we call the back closterol. These are not
good for heart health and promotes the creation of TAG
from glucose in the liver. So in other words, it's
really really trying to take fat acids out of the blood. Finally,
as far as protein synthesis is concerned, insulin increases the
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uptake of amino acids into the cells and protein translation
or it's the production of proteins. We're building proteins. The
secretion of insulin and glucagon are coordinated and tend to
be in opposite directions. When glucagon is low, insulin is high,
and vice versa. They are coordinated to maintain blood glucose
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levels between seventy tow one hundred and forty milligrams per
deca liter or three point nine is a decadesileter or
three point nine to seven point eight million miles per liter.
Insulin secretion is increased by higher levels of glucose, amino acids,
and gastrointestinal peptide hormones. These hormones harm These hormones together
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are called encretans and include glucagon like peptide one gop on.
If that sounds familiar, it should. This is all those
hot new weight loss medications. They're GLP one and inhibitors.
These are the the WEGAV and the what's the other
one that's some some semi glatitude or whateverde It's all
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those hot injections that help you lose twenty percent of
your weight. That's that's what these they're affecting. This GLP
one and there are. Another hormone is gastric inhibitory polypeptide
or g IP, also known as glucose depending insulinotropic peptide.
These are secreted in response to ingestion of food and
increase the sensitivity of beta cells to glucose decrease secretion
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of insulin occurs when there's a lack of dietary intake
of fuels, carbohydrates, amino acids, and during periods of physiologic
stress such as vigorous exercise, illness, or hypoxia.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
This is primarily caused by.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Noropinephrin epinephron, which are important in the fight or flight
response of the sympathetic nervous system and promote energy for
formation by mobilizing glucose and fatty acids. In other words,
they basically do the opposite of what insulin does. So
if that as background, let's talk about we can talk
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about type one diabetes. I'm just gonna mention that that's
basically there's there's a lot of we're not sure what,
but there's some sort of autoimmune reaction that destroys those
beta cells in the islets of longerhands that we were
talking about, and insulin stops being produced pretty much.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
In type two.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
There's a difference in type two, there's a combination of
insulin resistance. In other words, the cells that insulin treats
don't react the same way to insulin as it did previously,
and dysfunctional beta cells. So not as much insulin as
actually being produced. Some is being produced but not enough
to actually be fully functional, and combine that with insulin
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resistance at the target cells, then you have type two diabetes.
Polyuria or too much frequent urination, and polydipsia or thirst
are often presenting signs and symptoms. Since there is some
insulin secretion, many of the complications of diabetes are blunted,
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including less ketogenesis and reduced risk of diabetic ketoacidosis.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
While there is a.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Strong genetic component to its development, it is not completely
understood how it develops and does not involve viruses or
an autoimmune response. What is diabetes According to Chinese medicine
so FLAWSNC you have an excellent entry on diabetes in
Chinese medicine in their book The Treatment of Modern Western
Medical Diseases with Chinese Medicine. Diabetes melitis is traditionally characterized
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as Shauca wasting thirst or wasting and thirsting. In juvenile
onset diabetes, the disease mechanism appears to be a natural
endowment in sufficiency, whereas in adults this disease typically typically
begins with long standing heat in the stomach coupled with
spleen vacuity. This heat may be due to overheating over
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excuse me, overeating hot, spicy, greasy, fatty thick flavored foods,
or alcohol, or too depressive heat of the liver and
stomach and gives rise to a large appetite and or
rapid hungering after meals. The sleen vacutie may be due
to overeating sugars in sweets and or fatty thick flavored foods,
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too much thinking, too little exercise, and too much taxation fatigue.
Spleen vacuity is responsible for obesity and fatigue initially, and
also for anorexia, so lack of appetite, emaciation, loss of weight,
and muscular atrophy as these as this disease progresses. If
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heat endures, it eventually damages and consumes yen fluids in
the stomach and lungs, giving rise to polydipsia, that's thirst.
If lung's stomach yin vacuity reaches the kidneys and is
complicated by yen vacuity due to aging, lung's stomach yen
vacuity may evolve into kidney yin vacuity. If spleen chi
vacuity evolves into kidney young vacuity. There may be kidney
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yin and young dual vacuity. Kidney yin and or young
vacuity give rise to urinary problems as well as impotence.
Because all adult diabetics also exhibit signs and symptoms of
liver depression cheese stagnation. Long term cheese stagnation coupled with
chim blood vacuity typically gives rise to blood stasis. In addition,
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sleen vacuity often also becomes complicated by damp heat which
pours downward, resulting in sores, urinary disturbances, impedence, restless leg syndrome,
end or vaginitis. And that is a short introduction to diabetes.
With that, let's get into today's herb. So we're gonna
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be talking about jing j skiffs, skitzenepata. This is from
the family Laviate or laminassier. We talk about why there's
both of those. Standard species is Skitzenepata ten tenuel Folia
brick b r i Q. That's the the botanist who
who classified it. The medicinal part is the whole herb
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that we're going to talk about individual parts as we
go along here. Other names for this include Japanese catnip
harry sage, Japanese mint, Nepada multifi, multifida, nepa, ten tenua, folia,
skittsen nepta, multi fitta, multified a tenufolia just tenufolia, shuming
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or mouse water, chestnut, jassu, silan, gon howe hianja chang
jing j and in Japanese k guy k e i
g a, I don't know how to pronounce Japanese or Korean,
which is yong gai hong k h y o n
g g a. Benski and his team say the So
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there's three major textbooks we use.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We'll talk about all three of them right now.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So the first one is Benski's textbook, and they say
the dosage is four point five to nine grams. Chen
Chen also has a book on individual herbs. It's a
different book than when we talk about formulas, and they
say the dose is five to ten grams, so basically
very similar with a maximum dosage of thirty grams. And
Brandon wise Men, our third textbook that we usually use,
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say the dose is three to ten grams.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So they go a little bit lower than some of
the others.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Let's talk about that Labyatia family is also known as
i mentioned as the Lamiassier family. It includes flowering plants
commonly known as the mint, dead nettle, or sage family.
Generally lemonossier lamiassier is Lamiassier is considered the more correct name,
though laviate is a correct alternative. These include many aromatic
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This whole family includes many aromatic culinary medicinal herbs, including
basal mint, rosemary, sage, savory, marjoram oregano, hissop, thyme, lavender, salvia, catnip,
oriental motherwort, and pririlla.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
All those. It's a very useful family.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
There are approximately two hundred and thirty six genera and
up to seventy five hundred species, and the flowers are
usually bisexual. Category is According to Bensky, it puts the
herb in the warm acrid herbs that release the exterior
subcap category under herbs that release the exterior Chen say
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it is in the wind cold releasing herbs subcategory of
exterior releasing herbs. And bran Wiseman say it is a
warm acrid extra resolving medicinal under the exter resolving medicinals
category In other words, these all say pretty much the
same thing, just slight slightly different translations of the words
individual words. All three of our sources say it is acrid,
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are spicy and slightly warm, and enters the lung and
liver channels.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And by the way, all three of.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Our sources saying the exact same thing on these is
kind of a rarier. There's usually a little bit of
a difference between the three books. So the fact that
they all agree on this is quite an interesting piece
of information.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
So let's talk about the history. I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
One or two major texts that mention the history of
a herb disagree here. The discrepancy seems relatively easy to resolve.
Bensky and their team say this herb was first mentioned
Woopoo'sman America or the Woophoo Ben Su, written during the
Three Kingdoms period, which lasted from two twenty to two
eighty c. E. Chen and Chen say the original source
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of the serb is the Shendong Ben sau Jing, Divine
Husband's Classic of the Material America, written in the second
century CE, so before the Wuping's Material Medica. The Shendong
Ben Sajing is the oldest book that describes individual rbs
that we still have today. There may have been other books,
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but they no longer exist, so this is one that
we still have today.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
So it's when a herb is.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Mentioned in Shandong ben Soljing, it's basically amongst the oldest
herbs were aware of at least written form. And since
it is actually in my admittedly modern version of the
Shanngnam ben Soljing, and that it would predate the Woupho's
material Medica, it seems obvious which was the first mention
of the serb, which was the Shinnan Bensajang. And we're
going to see some quotes from just a minute, So
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before we get in that, let's talk about this this
category subcategory. So we have talked about this category subcategory
of verbs several times during an adventures examining Chinese herbs,
and we'll repeat that information here in the for completeness sake.
According to Benski, exterior releasing herbs are those that release
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disorders dis lodged in the very superficial levels of the
body when external pathogenic factors, including wind heat, when cold,
wind damness in summer heat invade the body, they first
attack its superficial exterior aspects. Symptoms associated with the exterior
then appear chills, fever, headache, stiff neck, and general muscle aches.
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Sometimes sweating will appear, which resolves the condition, in which
case no treatment is necessary. At other times, however, there
will be an absence of sweating, or even though there is, sweating,
is not accompanied by any change in the condition. At
this juncture, herbs that release the exterior are needed. Most
exterior releasing herbs are diaphoretics that as they release or
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expel the external pathogenic influences through sweating. There is a
saying in Chinese medicine. When the diseases in the skin,
sweating will bring it out. When a disease progresses slightly
further into the body, it is said to lodge in
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the muscle layer. The clinical presentation that includes fever, general
body aches, and profuse sweating. At this stage, especially when
the patient has sweated without any beneficial change in their condition,
is appropriate to use the subset of herbs that release
the muscle layer. The most prominent member of this group
is cinemamu rimulous guadure, which is cinnamon twig. Some of
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the herbs that release the exture, have additional functions stopping
coughs and wheezing, controlling pain or spasms, inventing rashes such
as measles. We're going to see that are herb today
does some of those. So that's the category of herbs
that release the exterir. Let's get into the subcategory of
warm acrid herbs that release the sixterre where our herb resides,
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so they continue. Benski and his team continue to discuss
the subcategory of warm acrid herbs that release the exterior.
Herbs that release the exterior can be further divided by
character and function into warm acrid and warm acrid and
cool acrid classes. The warm acrid herbs dispel wind cold
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and are used for exterior disorders. When the fever is mild,
the chills severe, and there are other signs and symptoms
of wind cold, including a headache, body and neck pains,
and absence of thirst. So that's the categories that our
herb today is inging j is in. Let's talk about
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quality jingjay. So Benski and his team say, good quality
consists of light, green, long and dense spikes with a
strong aromatic fragrance. Have this other textbook that I love
called the Chinese medicinal identification. An illustrated approach by Jiao
and Chen says jingjay generally have a square rod shape
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with branching at the upper portion Externally, pale yellowish green
or pale purplish red with a light brittle texture and
an aromatic odor. Superior quality of jingj has a pale
yellowish green color, long and dense flower spikes, and a
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potent aroma. What does this herb do so? According to
ben Ski, jingj releases the exterior and dispels wind for
exterior patterns of.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Either wind cold or wind heat.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Depends on the herbs with which it is combined. Also
for carbuncles or boils when they first erupt, especially when
accompanied by chills and fever events, rashes, and alleviates itching
for the initial stage of measles and puritic skin eruptions.
Puritic means itchy skin eruptions. Finally, it stops bleeding as
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an auxiliary herb for hemorrhage, for example, blood in the
stol are uterine bleeding. Chenchen say it releases the exterior
and dispels wind. It can be used for both wind
cold and wind heat, and is rather mild in action.
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It is acrid yet not damaging. To the end, it
is warm but not drying. It also dispels wind and
releases muscle spasms used to treat postpartum spasms, trismus and
muscle cramps and spasms. Trismus is the spasm of the
jaw muscles causing the mouths reming tightly closed, such as intentness. Additionally,
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it dispels wind, vents rashes, and alleviates itching, and finally
it stops bleeding from various causes. Bran Wiseman say, it
dispels wind and resolves the exterior outthrusts papules and relieves itching.
Papuoles are basically raised sores, raised rashes, just so outthrust
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papules and relieves itching disperses sores in stanches bleeding and
the Divine Farmer's material medica that's that Shennang Ben sau
Jing that this originally was found says this is a
middle class herb. So the Divine Farmer's Materia medica kind
of breaks down herbs into superior, middle and inferior class herbs.
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Superior class should be taken regularly to light and to
help health and the body middle class serves should be
taken readily when there's a disease process. An inferior should
only be used when necessary, you know, to combat a
disease for a short period of time. So Divine Farmer's
Materia medica says, this middle class herb is acrid and warm.
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It mainly treats cold and heat, mouse fistulas, scrophulas, and sores.
It breaks bound and gathered chi, precipitates blood stasis, and
eliminates damp impediments, so you know, quite a bit different
than what we would use it for modern which we
often see with the SDNAN been suching and finally Chinese
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medicinal identification illustrated approach. It usually has one sentence or
two on the actions of the herb, and they say
joah and Chen say it resolves the exterior, disperses wind,
invents rashes. So there are so veral preparations. Menski as
usual has a good discussion of those. First preparation is
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skitzinepitas spikes or jingj sui or skitzenepitas. Spika would be
the Latin for that. Spikes are much more aromatic component
in effect than the entire aerial parts, which include both.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Stalks and spikes. That's our normal herb.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Ancient formulas specifically called for the spikes in order to
disperse wind from the head and face. For example, the
formula skits and nepota and sepassion of covia powder to
overcome pathogenic influences. Jing fung Bai Deusan combines skitz andepetas
spikes with other wind dispersing herbs to treat chills, fever,
and aching of the head and body. Likewise, the gramm
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Materia medica are the Bensau gong Mu, written in fifteen ninety,
notes that the spikes can be taken alone as a
powder with wine to treat all disorders of the head
and eyes, dry blood consumption, pathogenic end headache, vertigo, and disness.
Another form of this is dry fried schitz neepta or
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chow jingj Refrying over a medium flame will moderate moderate
the exteri releasing action of schitzinepita, which which is preferred
in those patients who are already sweating and who may
otherwise still need to use this herb. In front of that,
we have charged schitz and nepita called jingj tan also
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called hajingj basically means black Jingj, jingj sweet tan, and
j sweetan. Frying the herb over a hot flame or
baking at two hundred and ten degrees celsius until it
turns black, but without destroying its normal shape, will encourage
the herb to enter the blood level and exercise its
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ability to regulate the blood and stop bleeding. In rectification
of the meaning of material medica, the ben sau jung
Riden in sixteen twenty four, jiangshan Lay notes that this
herb fried black has already lost its lights, ending spreading
and dispersing qualities. Because blackness can enter the blood, it
can stop the chaotic movement of blood. Chen Chen says
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jingsuay or flaskitts nepata, the flower treats wind invasion affecting
the head. By comparison jing j herbiskits and nepita, the
aerial part of the plant treats wind invasion throughout the body.
Brown Wiseman adds it should not be decocted for long.
Use raw to affuse the exterior and outthrust papules into
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disperse sores. You start stir fried or char fried to
stanch bleeding, so they add in char fight. You know,
Benski said char fright is good for stopping bleeding. They
add in stir fried is also good for stopping bleeding.
That's what Brann Wiseman do.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So what does this RB do? In Western terms?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
The PDR for Herb Herbal Medicines does not have an
entry for this herb. Web MD says it is used
for common cold, fever, sore throat pain, ximuy topic, dermatitis, psoriasis,
many other conditions, but there's no good scientific.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Evidence to support these uses.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
WebMD I think properly is a little conservative in what
they say is appropriate uses. I mean, is the science
good science are not behind these, you know, so not
surprising as usual, Benski has an excellent commentary on this
herb that's getting his team it. Casina Urbia jingj is
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quite harmonious in nature, acrid but not overly dispersing, slightly
warm but not drying. It's slight ascending qualities which enter
the liver and lungs allow it to be used for
both wind heat and wind cold, and also for venting
wind from the blood. This letter act later action latter
(30:00):
action is so marked the Treasury of Words on the
material America Medica Bensa hui Yan. In the written in
the Ming dynasty which lasted from thirteen sixty eight to
sixteen forty four, blouds it as the herb for wind
in the midst of blood of the blood each in
every wind toxing condition just at the threshold of manifesting
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but not completely about to disperse but not dispersing, can
be cleared up with the use of unprepared jing.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
J seeking accuracy.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
In the material Medica ben South cheu Jen, written in
seventeen seventy three, explains its interactions with sepassionate.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Covi radix fong Fung.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Jingj, it says, is not like sepassion of Covi ratix
for fung Fung, whose chi is not light in lifting
and which must enter the flesh of bones to drive
out the wind. Thus, in order to dissipate and disperse
the wind pathogen, when one uses se passion of Covi
ratix fong Fung, it is necessary to also use jingj.
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This is because jingj can enter the muscles and skin
to dissipate and disperse, and thus compliments the passion of
Cove ratix's fung fung deeper action. Furthermore, since jingj also
enters the liver channel the wind and wood organ and
the liver is the realm of blood storage, jingj is
also able to unblock and facilitate the blood vessels to
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treat such symptoms as nosebleed, intestinal wind, irregular menstrual bleeding
on puperl fainting, toxic swollen sores, and blood heat. Resolution
of all of these symptoms relies on its light lifting
as a tool for dissipating and draining. How could one
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regulate the cheat in the organ of wind and wood
but not treat the blood as well. I Therefore, while
jingj enters the chi aspect of the liver and also
enters its blood aspect, and that's it basically on commentary
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for this herb. But we do have some comparisons. Benski
compares it compares it with one other herb, and that's
Perilla folium or zissu ye. Now, even if you're not
a Chinese erbilist, you're probably familiar with fulion pilla or
perila folium. This is uh the green leaf that is
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is in if you do high end sushi, they will
give you a green leaf, that's perilla folium. It's but
one of its functions is to help with seafood poising,
so that's why it's used a lot with with sushi.
But even if you haven't had seen the leaf itself,
you've probably gotten those those sushi's from the from the
supermarket where it has like the the green little fence
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that they give you a little bit that is supposed
to be a representation of prilo perla folium is that
little green plastic stuff they will they will put in
uh in with the sushi. So that's perlofolium or zisuya
so combined, so compared with jingj. Both are extra relea
seen in sweat inducing herbs. But while perlofolium zisuya disperses
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wind cold, jingj is both stronger at dispelling wind and
can also be used for either wind cold or wind heat.
Prolofolium's ziua other actions make it the herb of choice
for treating wind cold when there are middle burner issues
excuse me, cheese, sagnation, or pregnancy. Jingj also acts to
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disperse wind heat from the blood and relieve spasms. Let's
talk about some combinations. Benski and his team combines the
herb with three others. First, one is Angelicus and ensistratus
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are dung Angelica sinensis rateix do guey harmonizes the blood
by tanifying and moving it. Jingj expels wind from the blood,
and its charred format regulates blood flow and stops bleeding.
Treasury of words the material Medica notes for any pattern
of bleeding, if it tends to stop and start seeming
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to flow but not properly, then charging jay can be
used to stop it. When used together, each of these
herbs compliments the other such that the blood is nourished
and regulated, wind is expelled from the blood, and the
bleeding is stopped. This is appropriate and very effective for
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conditions such as intestinal wind with bleeding from the rectum.
One ancient emergency formula listened in Fine Formulas for Women
or Furen liong Fong, written in twelve thirty seven, for
postpartum collapse in coma called concurrent powder or jauja San,
instructed that the two herbs be powdered then decocted, with
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some wine added before administration. This combination is now frequently
used for wind resulting from blood deficiency with such symptoms
as tremors of the hands and feet or itching of
the skin. So another combination is with sephoro floss or
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hui Hua that's h uai huah meaning flower hu a
and sephora floss why Hua is bitter and slightly cold,
with a specific function of cooling the blood and stopping bleeding,
particularly in the bowels. When the two herbs are used together,
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the hemostatic or blood stopping action of charts kit sinnepata,
herba jingj tan is led into the intestines by sephoro
floss why why hua, where it supplements the hemostatic action
of sephora floss huy huahlest pair of herbs is strong
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enough to be used as a two herb formula for
recto bleeding from intestinal wind or hemorrhoids. The effects are
even better if combined with auranti fructos zurka and platikate
cacumen or sibaya. This is the formula Sephora flower powder
or huai hua san. If one's primary purpose is to
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cool the heat in the blood to treat the root,
use unprepared sephora flows immatures or why me.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
On the other hand.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
If the focus is on quickly stopping the bleeding. To
address the branch, use the charred form. And finally, our
third combination is with Fasioli semen or churchal do and
ancient adage says that all pain itchy sores pertain to
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the heart. Fazioli semen or churshall doe enters the heart,
cooling and clearing heat. Talks in promoting blood flow and
treating sores. Effective medical formulas arranged by category observes that
Faziola semen churshall doe treats all abscesses, sores, and red
and swellings, regardless of the severity. Just mix with water
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and apply topically.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
All are cured.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Excisinemtave, spike e jing j suie is light and raising
in nature. It clears wind from the blood and treats
itchy skin. Together, these herbs complement to clear heat and
promote the flow of blood, resolve toxicity, expel wind, reduce rashes,
and alleviate itching. The combination is often used in the
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treatment of itchy wind, rash, and swollen toxic sores. It
can be decocted and taken internally or powdered mixed with
egg white and applied externally. Contents. So, according to Benski
and his team, the contents of this herb include tri
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turpe uh triturpeting try turping, sapanin, glycosides I got it
and other glycosydes and tannins, as well as rival flavon,
thiamen nicotinic acid. Those are all B vitamins, alpha globulins
and beta globulins, fats and carbohydrates chin highlight essential oils
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and say about zero point four to three to two
point zero five percent are these essential oils and include menthone, pulogone, isomanthone, isopulogone,
and lemonon lemonon lemonine, excuse me lemonine, and then also
has schizo that skitsomodiol and skits a nippa to side
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a through e. That's always my tongue twister. Category of
discussion on the contents, we talk about its contents in
just a few minutes of what they do, and just
in just a few more minutes when we talk about
the science here, let's let's get to the science. So
according to Chen Chen, the pharmacological effects of jingj include
the following actions anti poretic which means the lower's fevers
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and diaphyretic means it induces sweating in rabbits, antibiotic and analgesic,
so it helps pain in vitros and not in animals.
Hemostatic so stops bleeding in mice and rabbits, and the
volatoils can cause broncho dilation treating wheezing in dyspnea. One
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review study this is Joao and Joe discuss various actions
and the constituents causing them. So it's antiporetic from nepa
nepeta lacta, a terpenoid compound, santi oxidant from phenolics, flavonoids
and anthocyanine antha anthocyonine, anti inflammatory ab irritation. In other words,
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it's against ir irritation and anti tumor from volatile oils.
It is also hemistatic, immunomodulatory and anti viral and antibacteria,
antibacterial from alpha alpha terpenine terpenol formate and P C
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simonin simonin C y M E n I N simonin
volatile oils. Antibactera from various volatile oils as well specific
volatile oils.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
That was a good study that I didn't overview on that.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
So that's why I want to make sure I got
it in here. Let's talk about drug herb interactions in general.
Literature search did not find any potential drug herb interactions
with this herb, and I did it a lot.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I really tried to find it.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
But having said that, there was one study that showed
that one constigent of this herb, the volatile oil skitzin nepotin,
may effact cytochrome P for fifty three A one and
two slash two one two two E one and two
D six. So when this occurs, when I see and
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there's lots of studies for this, and generally I don't
include them as cautionary tells because it's one constituent out
of hundreds. Now, skiz and nepotin just by the name,
because this is skitzenepiitae is the herb. When you see
a constituent that has most of the herbs name in it,
it usually means that constituent is it was first discovered
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and is primarily in this herb, so it's particularly special.
So this volatile oil skits nepotin is probably pretty specific
to this HERB for the most part, which is probably
a fairly important constituent of this, but it's still only
one constituent and so, and who knows when all the
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other constituents are combined if it's if it's going to
mitigate some of these effects. So usually when I see
a single constituent causing an aspect of drug ERB interactions,
I don't discuss it. I don't include it as an
issue because I don't think it is an issue, though
others do, so I want to make put that out here,
So that's what's happening here. This was a single component
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and was based on an in vitro and rat study,
so that's another aspect. Generally, when I'm looking for drug
ERB interactions, I want to see them in humans, because
all the studies in the world in rats and mice
and animals and in vitro in test tubes doesn't mean
anything if it doesn't have the same effects in humans,
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and it often doesn't, So until it's in humans, it
really isn't an interaction that I'm worried about. Therefore, this
is not strong evidence of interact actions, especially since they
were contradictory. Some showed induction in mice and inhibition in vitro.
So it was a little bit of a of a
different things. So I don't think there's anything to be
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super concerned about here with the drug ERB interactions.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
And there's another.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Source text that I really like and usually has a
really good handle on Chinese serves. And this is a
relatively commonly used Chinese RB. It's not rarely used, you know,
it's maybe not commonly used either somewhere in the middle.
But and that that book is the American Orberal Products
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Associations Botanical Safety Handbook, And like I said, that usually
has a good chunk of our Chinese IRBs. Does not
have an entry on the SRUB, and they give nice
little categories of risk for drug ERB interactions as well
as overall concerns. And since it doesn't have an entry
on the SERB, we don't know what that's saying, but
I want to mention that it doesn't that's usually in
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day indication. That is not one of the most commonly
used Chinese irves. So I've used it, and so I
don't think it's uncommonly used. It's just not as common
as other Chinese cerves. So what are the concerns about
the IRBs, so Benski and his team note several concerns
with jing J. Under the heading of cautions and contra indications,
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they say contra indicated where there is deficiency of the
exterior fully erupted measles or open sores, or an absence
of pathogenic wind of any kind, so you need some
wind in order to use the serb. Under the heading
of toxicity, they say allergic reactions affecting the skin and
digestive system have been reported, so be cautious about allergies here.
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Che Chen have several cautions and contra indications. Jingj is
not recommended if perspiration is not due to wind, such
as impatients with way defensive cheat deficiency, or yin deficient heat,
and it's contra indicated for patients experiencing spasms because of
liver wind, So if liver wind or causing spasms, don't
use this herb. They also say JINGJ is contramunicated in
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cases of fully erupted measles or open sores, and while
taking JINGJ, patients should avoid foods such as fish, crab, goose,
or duck, as consumption of these foods may increase itching.
Of the skin, so that's interesting. It's no fish, crab, goose,
or duck. That's not one that I've heard of in
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the past, though often you know, traditionally there are food
changes that happen with herbs. So that's that's good to
know the herb all and that's basically our herb for
today we start today. We started with our discussion with
(45:57):
the discussion of insulin diabetes, and then we did a
dive into a useful and interesting Chinese herb, jingjay skits
an nepaa heerba or just skitzinepada. This herb is relatively
commonly used herb for treating colds, muscle spasms, rashes, and bleeding,
and it seems relatively safe, if a little on the
mild side. We spend a good amount of time discussing
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the intricacies, including preparations cautions in comparisons to other herbs,
and with that we include another explanation of a very
useful Chinese herb. Our next episode in two weeks will
be looking at another herb of the world, plantago ovata
(46:40):
or blonde silium. This is commonly used as a fiber supplement,
but can it also help diabetes in cholesterol. We're going
to find out. As always, we will do our deep
dive into this herb herb and look at its traditional uses, preparations,
interactions and cautions, and as usual we will be adding something.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
A little different.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It's going to be another interesting trek into the exciting
universe of herbs. Please join us. As always, thank you
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I really appreciate it, and as usual we have extensive ipliography.
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