May 19, 2023 • 48 mins
Virginia and I continue the conversation about manifesting God’s plan for your life. We talk quantum mechanics and grounding it out in scripture. Who doesn’t want to bring heaven to earth? Enjoy!!
Recap of Virginia’s Bio:
Virginia Killingsworth is a worship leader, teacher, minister and singer/songwriter who has released 11 worship CDs and has written two books, one of which has been translated into both Spanish and Russian. Through a life of encounter, Virginia releases throne room worship into the earth, where the presence of God brings healing and freedom. Her music is prophetic in nature, God-breathed in essence, and her passion is to display the beauty and the true nature of God until the earth is “filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.” (Habakkuk 2:14)
Join her All Things Restored ekklesia online Sundays nights at 5pm Eastern: https://www.facebook.com/AllThingsRestored
GOLD NUGGETS:- Quantum mechanics of pulling from the spiritual realm into the physical realm
- Take our FREE Business Assessment:SpiritCenteredBusiness.com- Build and Launch your online Course…and more! Build It Business Services: https://BralynnNewby.com/BuildIt
- Join the Activation Ekklesia for Business: http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com/activation- Join the SCB Tribe: http://facebook.com/groups/scbtribeBe sure to answer the membership questions so we know you’re legit! ;-)
Copyright 2023 - Bralynn Newby Int'l. All rights reserved.
Recap of Virginia’s Bio:
Virginia Killingsworth is a worship leader, teacher, minister and singer/songwriter who has released 11 worship CDs and has written two books, one of which has been translated into both Spanish and Russian. Through a life of encounter, Virginia releases throne room worship into the earth, where the presence of God brings healing and freedom. Her music is prophetic in nature, God-breathed in essence, and her passion is to display the beauty and the true nature of God until the earth is “filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.” (Habakkuk 2:14)
Join her All Things Restored ekklesia online Sundays nights at 5pm Eastern: https://www.facebook.com/AllThingsRestored
GOLD NUGGETS:- Quantum mechanics of pulling from the spiritual realm into the physical realm
- The relationship you have with God as a new believer will not look the same as the one you have as a maturing son
- When God pulls back to wean us as we grow and mature, it can feel like abandonment
- We have been saved/redeemed/justified/sanctified, we are being saved/redeemed/justified/sanctified, and we shall be saved/redeemed/justified/sanctified
- Our maturation is an expansion of our oneness with him
- The world has tapped into the spiritual truths God created, yet the church doesn’t talk about
- Our mindsets are shifting so quickly because of new revelation, that it can be disorienting
- Take our FREE Business Assessment:SpiritCenteredBusiness.com- Build and Launch your online Course…and more! Build It Business Services: https://BralynnNewby.com/BuildIt
- Join the Activation Ekklesia for Business: http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com/activation- Join the SCB Tribe: http://facebook.com/groups/scbtribeBe sure to answer the membership questions so we know you’re legit! ;-)
Copyright 2023 - Bralynn Newby Int'l. All rights reserved.
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Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business podcast, where we blend the spiritual with the
practical for supernatural results. Now here'syour host, Berlin Nubi. Welcome back
to Spirit Centered Business. I amhere again with Virginia. We're going to
do part two and we left iton a cliffhanger last week. So thank
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you for hanging in there. Thankyou for supporting us and sharing this out
there wherever you're watching or listening tothe podcast, we so appreciate you.
And over on spirit centered business dotcom is that free business assessment you can
check out to see where you areon your spirit centered business journey. And
Virginia, thank you so much foreverything that we did in part one.
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That was just so amazing. Thankyou for honoring me. I'm so appreciative
of everything that you are you know, said about me and about my build
up team. Absolutely, you guysare bad. Oh thank you. Yeah.
My my my team lead. Rex. Here's a shout out, Rex.
You are amazing. Thank you somuch. We'd love what you do.
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Thank you, Rex. Where wouldwe be without Rex? I know
all right, where would we bewithout Rex? Okay, So, Virginia,
thank you for sharing your story inPart one and now we're going to
go into miracles are normal. Talkabout the book and more importantly the course,
because actually, if they get thecourse, they have the book is
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in audios right every um the well, if they get the course, they'll
have the video and the audio andthe audio correct the audio book. It's
the it's the audio version of thecourse, but it sticks close enough to
the book that it could stand alone. Yes, exactly, exactly. So
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um, this this book was solike I said mentioned in number one,
I had been studying the quantum mechanicsof how to bring miracles into manifestation,
or bring the from the impossible,from the quantum field, from Father's heart,
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you know, into the reality andyou know, for healing and for
other miracles in life. So whenI got this book in my hands,
it was like, oh my gosh, you have written down what I was
processing with the Lord. Because thesources that I had from before were not
necessarily Christian. So everything that Ilearned in there, I was coming back
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to the Lord and saying, Okay, Father, what do you say about
this? What's the truth about this? What how do we you know,
incorporate who you are and who weare in as a son as a king,
as a priest in this and sowhen you with this all together,
I'm like, wha, I loveit. I love even how you worded
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those questions that you had before theLord. I mean, those are the
perfect questions, which tells me,okay, I was asking that, and
you are asking that. Then he'swaking up his son's all over the earth
that are asking the same things becausehe's put those questions in us for now
right, answer them right, becausewe're here, it says as he is,
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so are we in this world right? And Christ said we will do
greater works than him. Well,I'm not turning water into wine or walking
through walls or anything yet. Andso I'm like, okay, Lord,
what am I missing? And obviouslythe first thing is intimacy because we don't
want to get into our own figuringthis out from the soul realm, because
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you know, guys, that's witchcraft, that's a cult, that's stuff.
If you just don't want to investwith you always want to come from that
place of intimacy with Father and whathe is calling me to do. And
we don't even go do court casesthat we think our good idea. It
still has to be called to doit right right, So there's a boundary.
So girlfriend, let's do it.Okay, you want to start,
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let's how did? How did?What was the first bit of how I'm
even going to write this book?Whereas let's start there. Well, it,
you know, it came out ofmy own those questions that you mentioned,
you know, the greater works andall that, but it came out
of some personal, you know,really personal things that the Father had given
me to overcome. I had anencounter with him and he the first time.
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It was in twenty twelve and Iencountered him in the depths after some
tremendous a season of tremendous loss,and it was the first time that I'd
ever encounter Jesus, and he wasstern with me, and I was kind
of like, you know, beforeyou know, he's like, love you,
Jesus, and it was like hewasn't mean, but he was very
firm, and it kind of tookme back, because you know, I
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was in this place of just uttereddespair and he looked at me and he
said, I have much authority foryou. You must overcome. And I
was kind of like, whoa,you know, but I still I didn't
understand what that meant. And youknow, when I was walking through this
season of loss, I remember justfeeling just abandoned by him. Like I
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knew in my head, I knew, you know, he never leaves nor
forsakes us Fred. I knew hedidn't, but I felt abandoned by him.
And I remember this time. Thiswas the strangest time. I remember.
I was. I had gone backto Orlando, I was leading worship
for this conference and I'm walking Theycalled me up. I was walking up
toward the platform and I remember inmy head saying, I wonder if God
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exists. Now that makes for avery awkward moment, it kind of does.
Yeah, it was so surreal.But I get up there and like
I'm wor shipping him and I'm worI'm sincere, I'm worshiping with him with
all my heart, and his presencecame and it was just the weirdest,
Like the season didn't It didn't makesense. And a couple of years later,
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the Lord says to me, hesays, do you know why you
doubted my existence? And you know, when he asked you a question,
it's like it's not because he needsto know, you know, where are
you god knew where he was?Like, um, he said, because
the God that you knew before nolonger existed. He said, the god
that you knew before was the godof a baby, and I had become
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the God of a young man.And so that god you were looking for
me in that place, in thatway, and that didn't exist anymore.
So you felt that I didn't exist. You felt I had abandoned you.
And he said and then in anotherencounter that was kind of related to that,
around that same time, he said, you know, I stepped back
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so that you could grow into thefullness of our oneness. Right, So
I was feeling that distant, rightbecause when I was three he tied my
shoe or whatever. You know,that I was eighteen months he put the
bottle in my mouth. But hewasn't doing that anymore, you know,
I had to wake myself up forschool or whatever. And so I felt
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that distance, and to me,it felt like abandonment. Because nobody likes
weaning, right, it'sn't we're fussywhen we're being weaned. But he was
pulling back so I would And theway he said it was so brilliant,
and really, you you summed itup, Brillian, when you were talking
about our intimacy with him, itreally goes beyond even intimacy. It's oneness.
The Bible says we became one spiritwith Him at salvation. We don't
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even understand that. We don't evenknow how to quantify being one with the
God who created everything. But that'sour reality if we're born again. And
so he stepped back so that Icould grow into the fullness of who I
really already was right. So wehave been saved, we are being saved,
and we shall be right. Soit's it's already happened at salve in
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our spirit. Our souls are growingto maturity in our bodies. Once that
process works its way out, wewill be walking through walls, we will
be doing the greater things. It'sthe process of growth and maturity. I
think in past seasons the Lord didthings for a baby church to show what's
possible, and now he kind ofalmost pulls back a little bit because we
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have to grow into that reality andwe have to learn to do it with
them. We're not doing it's notthat striving works, trying to earn it.
It's not doing any Jesus set apartfrom me. You know, you
can do nothing. So it's notthat, but it's that maturation that's an
expansion of our oneness with him.And so the book, you know,
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I think a lot of this bookcame out of my unanswered questions. You
know, I had all these questions, like the Lord had promised me all
these things, and you know,said all this stuff and in the word
and personally, and I not onlywas I not say in it, it
was like, well, this otherstuff was happening, and I'm supposed to
be overcoming. I don't even knowwhat that looks like. So a lot
of this this book came out ofthose questions that I had before him,
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and as he there weren't answers here. Nobody was talking about this, and
you know, I was tired ofthe pat answers or you know, people
get you know, people get kindof uncomfortable when you're asking these kind of
hard questions. People get squirmy,and they don't sometimes want to hear it,
you know, and exactly here,absolutely right. Yeah, And so
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when he taught me about living outof the heavenly realm, I went into
these council chambers and a lot ofthis book came out of the season that
he called my summer school. Thatwas he was kind of getting me a
little bit caught up, and sohe knew that he put the questions in
me so he could answer them.And then he just started connecting the dots.
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Why are we not seeing the thingsthat we know are possible? What
is He doing in us as individualsand as a corporate body right now?
And how do we make the spiritualtangible? How do we manifest what we
know as possible? Yeah, exactly, I was just checking your bibliography too,
because you had you've read some ofthe same things that I did when
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I was asking the questions. Andthis is another We kind of talked a
little bit about this in Part oneabout the world is pressing into these deeper
mysteries and operating by the spiritual principlesthat are in place, regardless if we
believe in gravity or not, itworks right, And so these principles are
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in place, but the world hasgrabbed them in ways that aren't the way
that got intended, or they're they'reaccessing a power source that is not of
God. And so this is whywe as Christians need to get ahead of
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this thing. Well, we're alreadybehind it, but we need to get
on board with that. The Lordis doing these things, this is the
way he created the universe, andthat he wants the sons to step up
and mature and he wants us tobe kings. So that's another reason why
we can't shy away from it,because this is our calling. If we're
going to restore creation like he sayswe're going to do, and all the
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creation is growning for the maturing ofthe suns, we need to step up
and learn this stuff. So I'mso glad you wrote the book and created
the course so that we can dothis on a regular basis. Well,
you know, you're actually kind oftapping into my next book that I've already
started, and I've got a teachingseries on YouTube. It's called Restoring the
Ancient Paths. But the premise behindit is, you know, Lucifer doesn't
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create anything, Berlin. You know, he's a creator, and the Lord
has been showing me that the Churchchurch wrong doctrine, has has made a
Satan that is creator, and he'sthat we've almost made him an anti god,
like you know, he's neck andneck and he's not he's a created
being who's fallen and the only thingthat the only job description that the scriptures
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give him is the thief that comesto steel, kill and destroy. So
he takes these these principles, thesethings that these principles, these these laws
that you're talking about, these naturaland spiritual laws, he take. They're
created for us, right, They'recreated for our pleasure and are advancing his
kingdom and to be a tangible displayon earth as it is in heaven.
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Is created for his children. Andso the enemy will take these things and
use them, he'll pervert them,and he'll use them for his own purposes.
And then the church sees those thingsbecause we're not we're not here,
and I'm talked about on Sunday morning, right, and so we think that's
new age or that's a cult,and then we run even farther away,
when in reality, the world alot of times is just putting like you
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mentioned the law of gravity, alot of times, the world is just
putting language to something that God hascreated, or they're tapping into something that
God has created. You know,Jesus said that the children of this world
are wiser than the children of light, and I think that that's what we
have seen because the religious system haskept us stunted and afraid. But that's
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changing. That mean, that's Ithink it's changed. And um, I
think we're learning that that God isthe only creator, and that when we
search both what he's romans won,he's spoken in in nature of himself and
every all these technologies, all thesespiritual technologies, and these these natural and
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spiritual laws we can see in natureand you can find them in the Word,
in their purity. You see himin the coven, in the in
the distorted, stolen, perverted,almost beyond recognition form, and in science.
Really, um, I love doctorEco Horman. She says science is
catching up with the Bible. Andso I think I think that I do
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think that this is exactly what we'restepping into. I think so too.
Yeah, And you know, speakingof um that you see in uh in
the covens, Let's see, wherewas I going to go with that,
because then then then you went intoscience and I'm like, oh, well,
science was maligned front by the churchin the beginning too. Remember the
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whole uh, you know, evenGalileo, you know, all of that
stuff. You know, not tonot to give a shout out to flat
earthers. But today, let's notgo there today, not today, maybe
another show, right, but butno, but but science was maligned by
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the church because they didn't understand thatjust because we can prove a thing by
non spiritual means doesn't mean God doesn'texist. It just means that it's proving
him more right. It really meansthat his principles and precepts, what is
it they fall line upon line andcannot be I don't remember that you're the
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Bible scholar. I'm not Romans one. He said, He's written his Gospel
and we're without excuse because everything he'screated speaks of him. Yeah, and
stars were created for times and seasons, and so it's you know, it's
even you even said it's non spiritual. Means well, the religious system has
considered those things non spiritual. Butyou have to ask the question, are
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those things non spiritual if they werecreated by God? You know, they're
not, they're may they not,might not, they might be non religious?
Right, Yeah, So our mindsets, we're in a season of transition
like the world hasn't seen in acouple of thousand years, and our mindsets
are shifting so quick and you know, it's it's can be kind of um,
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a little bit, you know,disorienting, but He's chosen us to
be here for such a time asthis, and to have one foot in
the old and one foot in thenew, and to help the body make
the transition for his goal. Yeahthat's so good. So um, how
much did you feel like you neededto back up the truck and ground things
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out in scripture and really write itfor the people who didn't have the same
revelation. That's my heart and that'swhy I wanted to from the very beginning.
So I mean I even put inthe beginning, okay, what does
it really mean to be born again? Because I started realizing that a lot
of the people that are hearing themessage, you know what you're talking about
with the science and the quantum physicsand the sunship message and all these things,
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they don't have foundations and some ofthem don't even understand what it really
means to be born again. AndI was like, whoa. And so
you know, people are hungry forthe new, but they might not have
good foundations or have apps. Somy heart was to really start from the
very beginning create a very solid biblicalfoundation without getting bogged down. And I
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hope I did that. I hopeit wasn't too laborious. But I hope
that somebody that maybe could pick upthis book that maybe isn't even born again,
just hungry, or maybe just wasborn from above, that they could
start from the beginning and follow thetrail all the way to the living letters
and just you know, rulling itraining from Heaven and all this crazy stuff
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that we got to in the lastchapter. Yeah, and you can see
that you did do a really goodjob of laying that out when you know,
I'm in the last stages of mybook about you know, your business
has a destiny and it's all aboutpulling it down and walking it out.
And I was just going to doit like from where I am now and
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just you know, share it.But then I'm like, oh, I
better not. I better go back. And I just felt this, you
know, kind of like, oh, I have to even remember the language
to use too for the people whoaren't where I am, and go back
and ground out in scripture and explainthings and do that. So it added,
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you know, twenty thousand words orsomething. But I think it's needed
because we are Forerunners Virginia. Ithink that we are called to awaken the
people who are still in the pewsin church, and they're not being taught
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by pastors what who they are evenmuch less how the Kingdom of Heaven actually
operates. So they're not being taughtyou know, quantum physics, well,
you know, every once in awhile they might throw that in there,
but they don't understand what that meansin their life and how to co create
with the Lord. So I lovethe stuff that you have in here,
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and and even just running through thechapters and with the online course, the
course just um corresponds to each ofthe chapters in the book, even though
some of them are bigger than thechapter, and so you had to divide
it into into multiple you know,for the course, but um, walking
it out is so important. Whattips would you give to people who who
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just want to like pick this upand run with it. What what can
they look what can they look forto, you know, just to wet
their whistle a little bit? Well, I think I think there's something to
to meet people at every stage oftheir journey. And there have been times
that you know, I was actuallyministering to somebody yesterday. That's really um,
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really struggling with just the self like, like what you talked about in
the last part one, Brilinna's selfeating belief system. So I just pulled
out for her. I said,hey, you know, take a peek
at chapter five. You know,lies you believe. So I think that
people could could understand, you know, they could read it from starting to
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finish if it's just a journey.Okay, I want to manifest my miracle
and hear you know, the wholething. But I think there's some chapters
that could really stand on their own. You know. Chapter four is kind
of the bones of the book,Okay, talks about the creative process of
God. It's the pattern, right, how Helloheim is one yet three Father's
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son, Holy Spirit, and howthey created together in the beginning. So
our thoughts correspond with Fathers, ouremotions correspond with Spirit, and our words
and our physical frame correspond with Jesus, who is the Word. And so
that kind of lays out the patternfor the book. But I think if
somebody wants to understand where they arein their maturation process, they could pull
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chapter three out and get a youknow kind of oh, this is this
is I thought God didn't love meanymore, but he's trying to grow me
up this, you know, becausethere's a questionnaire that kind of helps.
It might help people to understand wherethey are on their journey. Chapter five
targets belief system. If you're reallystruggling with believing lies and you see the
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fruit of that in your life,you could that chapter could really help you
get untangled. You know. There'sa chapter on the emotions, and that's
you know, really getting really helpingto understand identify those unconscious belief systems and
those emotions that are producing something inyour life that you don't like and maybe
aren't conscious of, and how HolySpirit can help you with that. The
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words, that's something a little morefamiliar that we are hearing more the power
of our words. Yeah, hearinga little bit more in church. I
wasn't planning on putting a chapter onfaith in the book, but the Lord
told me specifically to do it becauseI really as he's teaching me all this,
I'm realizing, Wow, it's notwhat I thought it was. So
I think it's going to kind ofhelp people to understand it's not this work
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in it up thing. It's it'sa real substance, and it's easier than
you might think. So I thinkthere's little tidbits along the way that people
could glean. And even the chapteron the will was not something I was
originally going to put in the book, but I realized God gives almost ultimate
power to the human will so muchso it's when you really look at that
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in scripture, it's almost kind ofuncomfortable. And to understand how to bring
alignment if your will is if yourwill is broken or your will is not
in submission to the Lord. Soand then of course the last chapter,
the imagination is the most fun.To me, that was the most fun
chapter is how to use the imagination. I just think it's the it was
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the most enjoyable to write. Cool. Yeah, I love that you put.
You talked about frequency in a coupledifferent places here, and then I
love you know, chapter twe ofmaking the spiritual tangible, like I am
all about, it's got to looklike something. You know, don't go
flitting off in the garden of theLord unless you're bringing to that garden to
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earth, you know whatever. Andespecially in business, you know it's got
you've got to show the fruit yeah, show me the money, or show
the fruit in your life, inyour relationships. There should be some kind
of fruit eventually. It might nothappen in five minutes, but there should
be some fruit. At some point. You should get back and examine what
you're doing, you know. Ithink on one hand, we see people
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that are afraid or you to tapinto the reality of the heavenly realm and
having to break through those barriers.But on another hand, you see people
that are using that as an escapefrom reality instead of dealing with things.
And so now you know, afew years ago, you weren't having to
deal with this kind of stuff becausenot that many people in the body were
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doing it. But now you havea lot of ascension calls and a lot
of people that are are ascending,and you know all this stuff. And
so the message Brillin of examining thefruit, I think is really important because
if people are using it to avoidmaturity rather than to facilitate their their maturity,
then it's not going to produce godlyfruit. And at some point they
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should be surrounded by people that cansay, hey, you know, you've
been doing this for this long andthis fruit in your life is not the
fruit of the spirit. So howabout this and to do that in love.
So that's yeah, that's a reallyimportant message for where we are on
the journey right now. That's good. And I just want to clarify when
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she's talking about ascending. We talkedto this a little bit in the first
one. It's really changing your focusto stop seeing just what's around you in
their three D world, but lookwith the eyes of your heart, which
is the imagination, as Paul saidand Virginia said, to just focus on
what what's going on in the kingdomrealm. Okay, And so I write
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a lot about this in my book. That sometimes gets shut down because as
children, they sometimes see things fromthe second heaven, so they make an
inner vow. Oh, I'm notgoing to do that again. I don't
want to look into the spirit realmbecause that was scary. And so sometimes
I work with my clients to justtake off those layers and break off those
inner vows so that they can seeinto what Father's kingdom looks like and what,
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you know, what he's trying toshow. Because Jesus only did what
he saw the Father doing. Well, how did he see what the Father
was doing unless he turned his focusin which you know, ascension is a
word that gets thrown around a lot, and I understand that you want to
look at it from a higher perspective, but really, we're not going anywhere.
The Kingdom of the Lord is insideus or essentially right, and you
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know, most people don't leave theirbodies. You know, we know a
couple of people who've took taking theirbodies with them, but we're not going
on that conversation right now. Ithink that is as our salvation. It
works well. I think that's wherethis is going. I think this is
where we're going exactly. Yeah,exactly, But don't be afraid of it
right now. Just um, sothat you know, I just wanted to
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ground that that word out, thatascensioned word, because that might scare people
potentially or yeah, yeah, it'snot a it's not a it's not an
accurate word. It can be ahelpful visual aid at first, but it's
yeah, we are seated with Christand heavenly places. Yeah, we're not
going, we're there. We're justlearning to turn our awareness to it so
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that we can eat from its fruit. Yeah, and I love that you
said that. Um, there's adifference from a few years ago, when
when we were just starting to toum turn our focus into the heavenly realms
versus now because and I just thinkof my own progression, because back then
I wasn't trying to make on earthas it is in heaven. I was
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just trying to work out the processof, oh, wow, this is
this is good. I sanctify myimagination and you know, let the Lord
write holly across it and only seewhat he's doing and make sure I'm right
there with Jesus and tell you thetruth. I do that. I still
do that now. I just makesure Jesus is right there with me.
I don't I don't want to goanywhere without him. Yeah. But I
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wasn't pulling it down because of thelevel of maturity. I wasn't there yet.
I was just like just like akid exploring, you know. But
as we mature, we have tostart pulling that down and making it tangible,
gotta look like something. Well.I think that's the natural process again.
You know, I heard that firstmy whole life, work out your
salvation with fear and trembling, AndI always thought that was like, you
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know, behave never. I don'tknow, but it's when I realized it's
already happened in us, and itworks its way outward. And that's the
process you know, we talked aboutin the last interview that we did it
in the last show. We talkedabout keeping that yes and our heart toward
him always as we keep as westay yielded to him and let him bring
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correction if he needs to or whatever. That what's happened in us works its
way out. It matures, Itcleanses our soul, and it transforms our
physical body, and then it changesthe earth around us. You know,
it changes what's been given to usto steward like Peter's shadow, and so
it's it's it is that process ofhim working its way out what's already been
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done. Yeah, you look atit that way. It's kind of like,
Okay, this is an organic process. It's it's just remaining yielded and
removing things that are blocking that processfrom taking place. But if there's no
blockages, then you know, aflower doesn't have to try to grow.
It does what it was designed byGod to do. And I think it's
a similar thing we were designed tomature in these things. Jesus was the
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picture of what a fully mature sonlooks like, and everything that he spoke
happened because he could be trusted hewas. I believe he was co conscious
of both realms all the time,an unbroken an unbroken awareness of his oneness
with the Father, which is whyhe could pray in John seventeen that we
would be one as he and theFather are one. That's so good.
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I have a theological question for you. Oh no, I know, right,
And you don't have to answer ifyou don't want to, or you
know, um, when Jesus said, or when the Bible says Jesus went
up to the mountain to pray,do you think he really packed a lunch
and went out and hiked a mountain? Well, you know, he may
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have. He may have been ona literal, physical mountain to just you
know, for solitude. But Idefinitely don't believe that he was only in
a physical mountain because when you thinkabout it, when when he was tempted,
it says that that Lucifer showed himall the kingdoms of this world.
You can't see that from any physicalmountain. So that was a that was
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a spiritual mountain. So he mayhave done both but he it wasn't just
that one, for sure. Ilove that. Thank you. I didn't
mean to put you on the spot. But it's like one of those things
like did there did he just turninward? And you know whatever it might
have been that agreement you know,on earth as it does in heaven.
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I mean, I could see heprobably did need to go to a solitary
place, you know, because thepeople were always wanting to just you know,
I've actually never been to Israel,but from what I've heard is that
the mountains just aren't that high,no not yeah, yeah, yeah,
so but it would still take awhile to hike up to the top and
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then hike back down or something.So it's not like Noah, if he
hind yeah, yeah, who knows. You know, Clach will ask him
next time we went, next timewe meet with him. That's a great
question. Well, you know,he puts questions inside us, so we
can ask him because he wants totell us. So, right know what,
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hes yeah, I'll let you know, I'll let you know. Um,
I want to hear some of thosestories of the people who've given you
testimonies. I know we have someon the on the page when you go
to Spirit Centered Business dot com forwardslash Miracles. You'll see some of the
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testimonies that Virginia has gotten from thebook. But tell me some stories about
creating or co creating miracles in yourown life or that you've heard of from
your keeps well. One that Idon't think made it on the on the
landing page because it came later,but I do think that you saw it.
I got from a missionary and um, he did a pastor's conference and
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shared the revelation and you know,some of the stuff from the book,
and all these pastors, I thinkhe said, like four or five different
pastors got physical healing, and soyou know, they just stepped into it
by simple childlike faith. That's sogood. Yeah, And so that was
that was just a more recent one. Yeah, encouraging. So it's you
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know, and then of course therewas a regional pastor's meeting, so all
these pastors are taken it back totheir churches and all over the world.
You know, we're just realizing what'swhat's possible? Right, And that's one
of the reasons why because her bookhas been so how many countries has this
been in? I have no ideait's translated also into Spanish and into Russian.
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Um, but I don't I reallydon't know how many you know,
because it's it's all over the world. But this is one of the reasons
why we created the affiliate program,because if a pastor wants to read the
book, why not send people tothe you know, the do the course
and make money that could support theministry or them personally. It doesn't matter
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what you do with the money,right, But it's just throwing an idea
out there that it could be afundraiser to share this good news that you
can co create your miracles just bybecoming an affiliate. And anyone who takes
the course automatically becomes an affiliate.You just need to follow the instructions that
will come in an email about howto make sure that you're sending out the
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right links that are tied back toyou. So that's why we set this
up, is to become like we'renot only obviously creating more wealth by sharing
this, but it's like we're spreading, we're creating kingdom or literally transforming culture.
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If we could get more people creatingmiracles in their lives, could you
imagine how much more territory we couldtake for the kingdom, you know.
Yeah, well, there have beenquite a few people already that I know,
and maybe some that I don't know, that have used this book,
you know, book clubs and Biblestudies and things, so you know,
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I think the video course will behelpful. Some people enjoy teaching it in
the small group setting, but othersmight be nervous, or they might feel
more comfortable with some chapters than others, so it could just you know,
be a supplement. So that's true. Yeah, yeah, you could get
a group together and just do achapter a week through the through the online
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course, and that would be areally good way to kind of lock arms
and pull those miracles down, becauseit's not it's not about just reading it
or watching the video. It's thedoing bit. And that's why I love
that you even in the book,you've got activations to do, and I
and I dog eared all of thecorners that has stuff for me to do,
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so I can go back immediately tothem here well and do this like
you know, and and great,I see it in the in the making
the spiritual tangible, you've got likeDNA cleansing, prayer and communion are on
part of the than things to doin worship, and you know there's there's
uh action guides that are in thecourse, so that there's things to do
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between just watching the video or readingthe book, which there's that's where the
transformation happens, right, Virginia's practicing, you know, being a doer of
the word. And you know,I mean the book was just the answer
to my questions. But it's it'sstill my classroom. It is my co
creation classroom in the Spirit. SoI'm still having to work. And like
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you said, you know, untilI'm walking through walls and you know,
raising the dead on a regular basisand all that stuff is like breathing to
me, then this is the mannathat I you know, that I'm working
until I'm seeing the manifestation of everythingthat I know the Lord died to give
us. So it's still it's forme, It's still okay, this is
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my classroom. He told me exactlywhat to do in area with him and
how this works. So love it. Love it. So go ahead over
to Spirit Center business dot com forwardslash miracles to join the course, become
an affiliate, share the good news, you know, go to Virginia Killingsworth
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dot com to buy the book orall of her CDs we talked about in
Part one. I don't want tominimize going to your blog and the other
stuff that you have on there.Oh you know what we didn't mention in
part one, and in fact,I should probably just put it in the
show notes that people can actually watchAll Things restored your Ecclesia group on Sunday
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nights at five pm Eastern if theygo to the Facebook group. Is that
correct, Yes, that's correct.Okay, so they can watch it,
and I've participated that way. Theworship is a little bit, a little
bit dicey, depending on how goodyour internet connection is. Maybe my internet
connection wasn't always great because it doesn'tstream right. Yeah. Yeah, we're
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in a temporary facility, so it'swe're kind of hobbling along right now.
You know. It's. Oh,it sound good. It's a technology and
stuff. But hopefully soon we'll beable to be in our own place and
we'll be able to nail that alittle better. Or so yeah, yeah
it sound good. Part Yeah,it sound good. But then the teaching
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then that comes after the worship isalways good. And then you can always
go catch the replays again if youIf you can't do it live with them
on Sundays at five pm Eastern,you can go catch the replays over there
on YouTube. Do you have themattached on the website as well? All
Things Restored website. No, Nowyou can go on the All Things Restored
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dot org website and you can goyou can access the live stream on Vimeo
Live. But then to catch thereplay, you can catch the whole thing
on Facebook that our Facebook pages AllThings Restored. Also, what we've started
doing the last few months, Connie'sbeen doing this is editing the just the
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teaching out and then posting that onAll Things Restored YouTube channel, so then
you don't have to worry about pastthat. We've just started doing that,
so that takes some of the workout of it and it's just the teaching
all right. Well, shout outto Connie. Thank you Connie for handling
that. You're awesome. Okay,all right, So I think is there
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anything else that's on your heart toshare? Anything that's holy spirits saying you
need to say this? The onlything is just for I mean, and
we know this, but for usto really know it it really is the
Father's good pleasure to give us thekingdom. Really does want us, you
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know not you know, it's notalways easy, and that's unto our overcoming
right working those spiritual muscles, buthe wants us to enjoy the fullness of
the glories of the heavenly realm andto be able to turn our attention to
that place that we can know himmore experientially. And I think, just
whatever you know, wherever you areon your process, just to be faithful,
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don't compare. You know, you'veheard Berlyn and I talk about these
different encounters. And if you're notseeing in the spirit, or you don't
think you are, sometimes you areand you're just not recognizing it because you
think you're expecting something that that you'recomparing to somebody else. But just to
just to keep saying yes to himand know that it is his pleasure to
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give you the kingdom and to lethim get you from here to there anywell,
because he loves you. He doeslove you. Yeah, And of
course I would be happy to doany healing or activation sessions with you if
you do need help seeing or hearingor understanding what's going on or pulling it
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down or any of that kind ofstuff. It's not about me. It's
really about Virginia though, So wedefinitely it's so good because Berlin is so
good with just removing, you know, the blockages, and our souls are
so familiar to us. Sometimes wecan't see that you don't know what you
don't know, and so she's veryskilled at coming in from the outside and
so gently just removing, helping toremove those blockages. And you know,
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Berlin, I've seen, I've I'veexperienced this multiple times, people that had
trouble hearing from the from the fatherbecause they had an abusive natural father,
and they built walls that we're keepingout those words, and they didn't realize
it, but those walls were stillin place, and we're keeping their heavenly
father out. And so, youknow, somebody with skill and sensitivity like
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you know, like you Berlin,you just remove those remove those little things
and make those little tweaks and peoplejust take off. Thank you. Yeah,
it's important because God loves you,guys so much. He loves all
of you, each and every oneof you, and he doesn't love us
all the same. He doesn't.He loves us uniquely because he loves us
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for who he created us to be, right, So yeah, it's it's
such an intimacy when you when youreceive the love, because like Virginia said,
you might have woundings from from fatherstuff and you can't. And in
Virginia, I just looking at thetime. Here, let me just share
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just a little bit just in casesomebody needs to hear this. I'm kind
of feeling like I should. Icould not relate to Jesus as a man
because of the men in my lifeand being wounded that way, and he
showed up as the Lion of Judah. To me, it was so precious.
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So for quite a while he wasjust the Lion of Judah and I
could just snuggle up in his maine, you know, and he would be
my champion. Oh I love that. Yeah, it was a precious time
in my life and I certainly neededit. So whatever you guys need,
don't let don't let the things thatyou're afraid of stand in the way of
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intimacy with any of the Godhead.So reach out right, yeah, and
don't be afraid of being deceived.That something a lot of people are afraid
of deception is deception. So weshould have a healthy fear of not walking
in presumption. Right, But ifwe're yielded and we're asking, and we're
saying, Father, is this you? Then just rest and he won't.
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He won't let us be deceived.You know. Bill Johnson said said something
to this effect. I don't knowif I'm quoting exactly. So people are
more they have more faith in thedevil's ability to deceive you than they have
faith for the Lord to protect you. Wow. Yeah, I'm like,
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uh, that kind of just releasesome pressure, right, yes, yes,
yeah, all right, one lasttime, Virginia Killingsworth dot com to
go grab the book or her CDsand Spirit Centered Business dot com forward slash
Miracles if you want to take thewhole course and get the immersive experience of
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actually walking it out. All right, Thank you so much, Virginia.
This is great. I can't waitto see you. We're going to see
you in about a month ish.So excited. We love we love it
when you're here with us. Thankyou, Yes, we love what you
bring. Thank you so much.All right, yeah, big shout out
to the all Things Restored family.All Right, you guys, we will
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Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business podcast, where we blend the spiritual with the
practical for supernatural results. Now here'syour host, Berlin Nubi. Welcome back
to Spirit Centered Business. I amhere again with Virginia. We're going to
do part two and we left iton a cliffhanger last week. So thank
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And over on spirit centered business dotcom is that free business assessment you can
check out to see where you areon your spirit centered business journey. And
Virginia, thank you so much foreverything that we did in part one.
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That was just so amazing. Thankyou for honoring me. I'm so appreciative
of everything that you are you know, said about me and about my build
up team. Absolutely, you guysare bad. Oh thank you. Yeah.
My my my team lead. Rex. Here's a shout out, Rex.
You are amazing. Thank you somuch. We'd love what you do.
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Thank you, Rex. Where wouldwe be without Rex? I know
all right, where would we bewithout Rex? Okay, So, Virginia,
thank you for sharing your story inPart one and now we're going to
go into miracles are normal. Talkabout the book and more importantly the course,
because actually, if they get thecourse, they have the book is
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in audios right every um the well, if they get the course, they'll
have the video and the audio andthe audio correct the audio book. It's
the it's the audio version of thecourse, but it sticks close enough to
the book that it could stand alone. Yes, exactly, exactly. So
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um, this this book was solike I said mentioned in number one,
I had been studying the quantum mechanicsof how to bring miracles into manifestation,
or bring the from the impossible,from the quantum field, from Father's heart,
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you know, into the reality andyou know, for healing and for
other miracles in life. So whenI got this book in my hands,
it was like, oh my gosh, you have written down what I was
processing with the Lord. Because thesources that I had from before were not
necessarily Christian. So everything that Ilearned in there, I was coming back
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to the Lord and saying, Okay, Father, what do you say about
this? What's the truth about this? What how do we you know,
incorporate who you are and who weare in as a son as a king,
as a priest in this and sowhen you with this all together,
I'm like, wha, I loveit. I love even how you worded
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those questions that you had before theLord. I mean, those are the
perfect questions, which tells me,okay, I was asking that, and
you are asking that. Then he'swaking up his son's all over the earth
that are asking the same things becausehe's put those questions in us for now
right, answer them right, becausewe're here, it says as he is,
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so are we in this world right? And Christ said we will do
greater works than him. Well,I'm not turning water into wine or walking
through walls or anything yet. Andso I'm like, okay, Lord,
what am I missing? And obviouslythe first thing is intimacy because we don't
want to get into our own figuringthis out from the soul realm, because
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you know, guys, that's witchcraft, that's a cult, that's stuff.
If you just don't want to investwith you always want to come from that
place of intimacy with Father and whathe is calling me to do. And
we don't even go do court casesthat we think our good idea. It
still has to be called to doit right right, So there's a boundary.
So girlfriend, let's do it.Okay, you want to start,
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let's how did? How did?What was the first bit of how I'm
even going to write this book?Whereas let's start there. Well, it,
you know, it came out ofmy own those questions that you mentioned,
you know, the greater works andall that, but it came out
of some personal, you know,really personal things that the Father had given
me to overcome. I had anencounter with him and he the first time.
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It was in twenty twelve and Iencountered him in the depths after some
tremendous a season of tremendous loss,and it was the first time that I'd
ever encounter Jesus, and he wasstern with me, and I was kind
of like, you know, beforeyou know, he's like, love you,
Jesus, and it was like hewasn't mean, but he was very
firm, and it kind of tookme back, because you know, I
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was in this place of just uttereddespair and he looked at me and he
said, I have much authority foryou. You must overcome. And I
was kind of like, whoa,you know, but I still I didn't
understand what that meant. And youknow, when I was walking through this
season of loss, I remember justfeeling just abandoned by him. Like I
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knew in my head, I knew, you know, he never leaves nor
forsakes us Fred. I knew hedidn't, but I felt abandoned by him.
And I remember this time. Thiswas the strangest time. I remember.
I was. I had gone backto Orlando, I was leading worship
for this conference and I'm walking Theycalled me up. I was walking up
toward the platform and I remember inmy head saying, I wonder if God
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exists. Now that makes for avery awkward moment, it kind of does.
Yeah, it was so surreal.But I get up there and like
I'm wor shipping him and I'm worI'm sincere, I'm worshiping with him with
all my heart, and his presencecame and it was just the weirdest,
Like the season didn't It didn't makesense. And a couple of years later,
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the Lord says to me, hesays, do you know why you
doubted my existence? And you know, when he asked you a question,
it's like it's not because he needsto know, you know, where are
you god knew where he was?Like, um, he said, because
the God that you knew before nolonger existed. He said, the god
that you knew before was the godof a baby, and I had become
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the God of a young man.And so that god you were looking for
me in that place, in thatway, and that didn't exist anymore.
So you felt that I didn't exist. You felt I had abandoned you.
And he said and then in anotherencounter that was kind of related to that,
around that same time, he said, you know, I stepped back
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so that you could grow into thefullness of our oneness. Right, So
I was feeling that distant, rightbecause when I was three he tied my
shoe or whatever. You know,that I was eighteen months he put the
bottle in my mouth. But hewasn't doing that anymore, you know,
I had to wake myself up forschool or whatever. And so I felt
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that distance, and to me,it felt like abandonment. Because nobody likes
weaning, right, it'sn't we're fussywhen we're being weaned. But he was
pulling back so I would And theway he said it was so brilliant,
and really, you you summed itup, Brillian, when you were talking
about our intimacy with him, itreally goes beyond even intimacy. It's oneness.
The Bible says we became one spiritwith Him at salvation. We don't
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even understand that. We don't evenknow how to quantify being one with the
God who created everything. But that'sour reality if we're born again. And
so he stepped back so that Icould grow into the fullness of who I
really already was right. So wehave been saved, we are being saved,
and we shall be right. Soit's it's already happened at salve in
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our spirit. Our souls are growingto maturity in our bodies. Once that
process works its way out, wewill be walking through walls, we will
be doing the greater things. It'sthe process of growth and maturity. I
think in past seasons the Lord didthings for a baby church to show what's
possible, and now he kind ofalmost pulls back a little bit because we
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have to grow into that reality andwe have to learn to do it with
them. We're not doing it's notthat striving works, trying to earn it.
It's not doing any Jesus set apartfrom me. You know, you
can do nothing. So it's notthat, but it's that maturation that's an
expansion of our oneness with him.And so the book, you know,
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I think a lot of this bookcame out of my unanswered questions. You
know, I had all these questions, like the Lord had promised me all
these things, and you know,said all this stuff and in the word
and personally, and I not onlywas I not say in it, it
was like, well, this otherstuff was happening, and I'm supposed to
be overcoming. I don't even knowwhat that looks like. So a lot
of this this book came out ofthose questions that I had before him,
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and as he there weren't answers here. Nobody was talking about this, and
you know, I was tired ofthe pat answers or you know, people
get you know, people get kindof uncomfortable when you're asking these kind of
hard questions. People get squirmy,and they don't sometimes want to hear it,
you know, and exactly here,absolutely right. Yeah, And so
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when he taught me about living outof the heavenly realm, I went into
these council chambers and a lot ofthis book came out of the season that
he called my summer school. Thatwas he was kind of getting me a
little bit caught up, and sohe knew that he put the questions in
me so he could answer them.And then he just started connecting the dots.
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Why are we not seeing the thingsthat we know are possible? What
is He doing in us as individualsand as a corporate body right now?
And how do we make the spiritualtangible? How do we manifest what we
know as possible? Yeah, exactly, I was just checking your bibliography too,
because you had you've read some ofthe same things that I did when
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I was asking the questions. Andthis is another We kind of talked a
little bit about this in Part oneabout the world is pressing into these deeper
mysteries and operating by the spiritual principlesthat are in place, regardless if we
believe in gravity or not, itworks right, And so these principles are
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in place, but the world hasgrabbed them in ways that aren't the way
that got intended, or they're they'reaccessing a power source that is not of
God. And so this is whywe as Christians need to get ahead of
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this thing. Well, we're alreadybehind it, but we need to get
on board with that. The Lordis doing these things, this is the
way he created the universe, andthat he wants the sons to step up
and mature and he wants us tobe kings. So that's another reason why
we can't shy away from it,because this is our calling. If we're
going to restore creation like he sayswe're going to do, and all the
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creation is growning for the maturing ofthe suns, we need to step up
and learn this stuff. So I'mso glad you wrote the book and created
the course so that we can dothis on a regular basis. Well,
you know, you're actually kind oftapping into my next book that I've already
started, and I've got a teachingseries on YouTube. It's called Restoring the
Ancient Paths. But the premise behindit is, you know, Lucifer doesn't
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create anything, Berlin. You know, he's a creator, and the Lord
has been showing me that the Churchchurch wrong doctrine, has has made a
Satan that is creator, and he'sthat we've almost made him an anti god,
like you know, he's neck andneck and he's not he's a created
being who's fallen and the only thingthat the only job description that the scriptures
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give him is the thief that comesto steel, kill and destroy. So
he takes these these principles, thesethings that these principles, these these laws
that you're talking about, these naturaland spiritual laws, he take. They're
created for us, right, They'recreated for our pleasure and are advancing his
kingdom and to be a tangible displayon earth as it is in heaven.
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Is created for his children. Andso the enemy will take these things and
use them, he'll pervert them,and he'll use them for his own purposes.
And then the church sees those thingsbecause we're not we're not here,
and I'm talked about on Sunday morning, right, and so we think that's
new age or that's a cult,and then we run even farther away,
when in reality, the world alot of times is just putting like you
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mentioned the law of gravity, alot of times, the world is just
putting language to something that God hascreated, or they're tapping into something that
God has created. You know,Jesus said that the children of this world
are wiser than the children of light, and I think that that's what we
have seen because the religious system haskept us stunted and afraid. But that's
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changing. That mean, that's Ithink it's changed. And um, I
think we're learning that that God isthe only creator, and that when we
search both what he's romans won,he's spoken in in nature of himself and
every all these technologies, all thesespiritual technologies, and these these natural and
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spiritual laws we can see in natureand you can find them in the Word,
in their purity. You see himin the coven, in the in
the distorted, stolen, perverted,almost beyond recognition form, and in science.
Really, um, I love doctorEco Horman. She says science is
catching up with the Bible. Andso I think I think that I do
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think that this is exactly what we'restepping into. I think so too.
Yeah, And you know, speakingof um that you see in uh in
the covens, Let's see, wherewas I going to go with that,
because then then then you went intoscience and I'm like, oh, well,
science was maligned front by the churchin the beginning too. Remember the
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whole uh, you know, evenGalileo, you know, all of that
stuff. You know, not tonot to give a shout out to flat
earthers. But today, let's notgo there today, not today, maybe
another show, right, but butno, but but science was maligned by
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the church because they didn't understand thatjust because we can prove a thing by
non spiritual means doesn't mean God doesn'texist. It just means that it's proving
him more right. It really meansthat his principles and precepts, what is
it they fall line upon line andcannot be I don't remember that you're the
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Bible scholar. I'm not Romans one. He said, He's written his Gospel
and we're without excuse because everything he'screated speaks of him. Yeah, and
stars were created for times and seasons, and so it's you know, it's
even you even said it's non spiritual. Means well, the religious system has
considered those things non spiritual. Butyou have to ask the question, are
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those things non spiritual if they werecreated by God? You know, they're
not, they're may they not,might not, they might be non religious?
Right, Yeah, So our mindsets, we're in a season of transition
like the world hasn't seen in acouple of thousand years, and our mindsets
are shifting so quick and you know, it's it's can be kind of um,
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a little bit, you know,disorienting, but He's chosen us to
be here for such a time asthis, and to have one foot in
the old and one foot in thenew, and to help the body make
the transition for his goal. Yeahthat's so good. So um, how
much did you feel like you neededto back up the truck and ground things
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out in scripture and really write itfor the people who didn't have the same
revelation. That's my heart and that'swhy I wanted to from the very beginning.
So I mean I even put inthe beginning, okay, what does
it really mean to be born again? Because I started realizing that a lot
of the people that are hearing themessage, you know what you're talking about
with the science and the quantum physicsand the sunship message and all these things,
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they don't have foundations and some ofthem don't even understand what it really
means to be born again. AndI was like, whoa. And so
you know, people are hungry forthe new, but they might not have
good foundations or have apps. Somy heart was to really start from the
very beginning create a very solid biblicalfoundation without getting bogged down. And I
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hope I did that. I hopeit wasn't too laborious. But I hope
that somebody that maybe could pick upthis book that maybe isn't even born again,
just hungry, or maybe just wasborn from above, that they could
start from the beginning and follow thetrail all the way to the living letters
and just you know, rulling itraining from Heaven and all this crazy stuff
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that we got to in the lastchapter. Yeah, and you can see
that you did do a really goodjob of laying that out when you know,
I'm in the last stages of mybook about you know, your business
has a destiny and it's all aboutpulling it down and walking it out.
And I was just going to doit like from where I am now and
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just you know, share it.But then I'm like, oh, I
better not. I better go back. And I just felt this, you
know, kind of like, oh, I have to even remember the language
to use too for the people whoaren't where I am, and go back
and ground out in scripture and explainthings and do that. So it added,
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you know, twenty thousand words orsomething. But I think it's needed
because we are Forerunners Virginia. Ithink that we are called to awaken the
people who are still in the pewsin church, and they're not being taught
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by pastors what who they are evenmuch less how the Kingdom of Heaven actually
operates. So they're not being taughtyou know, quantum physics, well,
you know, every once in awhile they might throw that in there,
but they don't understand what that meansin their life and how to co create
with the Lord. So I lovethe stuff that you have in here,
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and and even just running through thechapters and with the online course, the
course just um corresponds to each ofthe chapters in the book, even though
some of them are bigger than thechapter, and so you had to divide
it into into multiple you know,for the course, but um, walking
it out is so important. Whattips would you give to people who who
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just want to like pick this upand run with it. What what can
they look what can they look forto, you know, just to wet
their whistle a little bit? Well, I think I think there's something to
to meet people at every stage oftheir journey. And there have been times
that you know, I was actuallyministering to somebody yesterday. That's really um,
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really struggling with just the self like, like what you talked about in
the last part one, Brilinna's selfeating belief system. So I just pulled
out for her. I said,hey, you know, take a peek
at chapter five. You know,lies you believe. So I think that
people could could understand, you know, they could read it from starting to
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finish if it's just a journey.Okay, I want to manifest my miracle
and hear you know, the wholething. But I think there's some chapters
that could really stand on their own. You know. Chapter four is kind
of the bones of the book,Okay, talks about the creative process of
God. It's the pattern, right, how Helloheim is one yet three Father's
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son, Holy Spirit, and howthey created together in the beginning. So
our thoughts correspond with Fathers, ouremotions correspond with Spirit, and our words
and our physical frame correspond with Jesus, who is the Word. And so
that kind of lays out the patternfor the book. But I think if
somebody wants to understand where they arein their maturation process, they could pull
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chapter three out and get a youknow kind of oh, this is this
is I thought God didn't love meanymore, but he's trying to grow me
up this, you know, becausethere's a questionnaire that kind of helps.
It might help people to understand wherethey are on their journey. Chapter five
targets belief system. If you're reallystruggling with believing lies and you see the
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fruit of that in your life,you could that chapter could really help you
get untangled. You know. There'sa chapter on the emotions, and that's
you know, really getting really helpingto understand identify those unconscious belief systems and
those emotions that are producing something inyour life that you don't like and maybe
aren't conscious of, and how HolySpirit can help you with that. The
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words, that's something a little morefamiliar that we are hearing more the power
of our words. Yeah, hearinga little bit more in church. I
wasn't planning on putting a chapter onfaith in the book, but the Lord
told me specifically to do it becauseI really as he's teaching me all this,
I'm realizing, Wow, it's notwhat I thought it was. So
I think it's going to kind ofhelp people to understand it's not this work
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in it up thing. It's it'sa real substance, and it's easier than
you might think. So I thinkthere's little tidbits along the way that people
could glean. And even the chapteron the will was not something I was
originally going to put in the book, but I realized God gives almost ultimate
power to the human will so muchso it's when you really look at that
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in scripture, it's almost kind ofuncomfortable. And to understand how to bring
alignment if your will is if yourwill is broken or your will is not
in submission to the Lord. Soand then of course the last chapter,
the imagination is the most fun.To me, that was the most fun
chapter is how to use the imagination. I just think it's the it was
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the most enjoyable to write. Cool. Yeah, I love that you put.
You talked about frequency in a coupledifferent places here, and then I
love you know, chapter twe ofmaking the spiritual tangible, like I am
all about, it's got to looklike something. You know, don't go
flitting off in the garden of theLord unless you're bringing to that garden to
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earth, you know whatever. Andespecially in business, you know it's got
you've got to show the fruit yeah, show me the money, or show
the fruit in your life, inyour relationships. There should be some kind
of fruit eventually. It might nothappen in five minutes, but there should
be some fruit. At some point. You should get back and examine what
you're doing, you know. Ithink on one hand, we see people
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that are afraid or you to tapinto the reality of the heavenly realm and
having to break through those barriers.But on another hand, you see people
that are using that as an escapefrom reality instead of dealing with things.
And so now you know, afew years ago, you weren't having to
deal with this kind of stuff becausenot that many people in the body were
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doing it. But now you havea lot of ascension calls and a lot
of people that are are ascending,and you know all this stuff. And
so the message Brillin of examining thefruit, I think is really important because
if people are using it to avoidmaturity rather than to facilitate their their maturity,
then it's not going to produce godlyfruit. And at some point they
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should be surrounded by people that cansay, hey, you know, you've
been doing this for this long andthis fruit in your life is not the
fruit of the spirit. So howabout this and to do that in love.
So that's yeah, that's a reallyimportant message for where we are on
the journey right now. That's good. And I just want to clarify when
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she's talking about ascending. We talkedto this a little bit in the first
one. It's really changing your focusto stop seeing just what's around you in
their three D world, but lookwith the eyes of your heart, which
is the imagination, as Paul saidand Virginia said, to just focus on
what what's going on in the kingdomrealm. Okay, And so I write
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a lot about this in my book. That sometimes gets shut down because as
children, they sometimes see things fromthe second heaven, so they make an
inner vow. Oh, I'm notgoing to do that again. I don't
want to look into the spirit realmbecause that was scary. And so sometimes
I work with my clients to justtake off those layers and break off those
inner vows so that they can seeinto what Father's kingdom looks like and what,
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you know, what he's trying toshow. Because Jesus only did what
he saw the Father doing. Well, how did he see what the Father
was doing unless he turned his focusin which you know, ascension is a
word that gets thrown around a lot, and I understand that you want to
look at it from a higher perspective, but really, we're not going anywhere.
The Kingdom of the Lord is insideus or essentially right, and you
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know, most people don't leave theirbodies. You know, we know a
couple of people who've took taking theirbodies with them, but we're not going
on that conversation right now. Ithink that is as our salvation. It
works well. I think that's wherethis is going. I think this is
where we're going exactly. Yeah,exactly, But don't be afraid of it
right now. Just um, sothat you know, I just wanted to
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ground that that word out, thatascensioned word, because that might scare people
potentially or yeah, yeah, it'snot a it's not a it's not an
accurate word. It can be ahelpful visual aid at first, but it's
yeah, we are seated with Christand heavenly places. Yeah, we're not
going, we're there. We're justlearning to turn our awareness to it so
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that we can eat from its fruit. Yeah, and I love that you
said that. Um, there's adifference from a few years ago, when
when we were just starting to toum turn our focus into the heavenly realms
versus now because and I just thinkof my own progression, because back then
I wasn't trying to make on earthas it is in heaven. I was
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just trying to work out the processof, oh, wow, this is
this is good. I sanctify myimagination and you know, let the Lord
write holly across it and only seewhat he's doing and make sure I'm right
there with Jesus and tell you thetruth. I do that. I still
do that now. I just makesure Jesus is right there with me.
I don't I don't want to goanywhere without him. Yeah. But I
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wasn't pulling it down because of thelevel of maturity. I wasn't there yet.
I was just like just like akid exploring, you know. But
as we mature, we have tostart pulling that down and making it tangible,
gotta look like something. Well.I think that's the natural process again.
You know, I heard that firstmy whole life, work out your
salvation with fear and trembling, AndI always thought that was like, you
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know, behave never. I don'tknow, but it's when I realized it's
already happened in us, and itworks its way outward. And that's the
process you know, we talked aboutin the last interview that we did it
in the last show. We talkedabout keeping that yes and our heart toward
him always as we keep as westay yielded to him and let him bring
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correction if he needs to or whatever. That what's happened in us works its
way out. It matures, Itcleanses our soul, and it transforms our
physical body, and then it changesthe earth around us. You know,
it changes what's been given to usto steward like Peter's shadow, and so
it's it's it is that process ofhim working its way out what's already been
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done. Yeah, you look atit that way. It's kind of like,
Okay, this is an organic process. It's it's just remaining yielded and
removing things that are blocking that processfrom taking place. But if there's no
blockages, then you know, aflower doesn't have to try to grow.
It does what it was designed byGod to do. And I think it's
a similar thing we were designed tomature in these things. Jesus was the
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picture of what a fully mature sonlooks like, and everything that he spoke
happened because he could be trusted hewas. I believe he was co conscious
of both realms all the time,an unbroken an unbroken awareness of his oneness
with the Father, which is whyhe could pray in John seventeen that we
would be one as he and theFather are one. That's so good.
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I have a theological question for you. Oh no, I know, right,
And you don't have to answer ifyou don't want to, or you
know, um, when Jesus said, or when the Bible says Jesus went
up to the mountain to pray,do you think he really packed a lunch
and went out and hiked a mountain? Well, you know, he may
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have. He may have been ona literal, physical mountain to just you
know, for solitude. But Idefinitely don't believe that he was only in
a physical mountain because when you thinkabout it, when when he was tempted,
it says that that Lucifer showed himall the kingdoms of this world.
You can't see that from any physicalmountain. So that was a that was
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a spiritual mountain. So he mayhave done both but he it wasn't just
that one, for sure. Ilove that. Thank you. I didn't
mean to put you on the spot. But it's like one of those things
like did there did he just turninward? And you know whatever it might
have been that agreement you know,on earth as it does in heaven.
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I mean, I could see heprobably did need to go to a solitary
place, you know, because thepeople were always wanting to just you know,
I've actually never been to Israel,but from what I've heard is that
the mountains just aren't that high,no not yeah, yeah, yeah,
so but it would still take awhile to hike up to the top and
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then hike back down or something.So it's not like Noah, if he
hind yeah, yeah, who knows. You know, Clach will ask him
next time we went, next timewe meet with him. That's a great
question. Well, you know,he puts questions inside us, so we
can ask him because he wants totell us. So, right know what,
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hes yeah, I'll let you know, I'll let you know. Um,
I want to hear some of thosestories of the people who've given you
testimonies. I know we have someon the on the page when you go
to Spirit Centered Business dot com forwardslash Miracles. You'll see some of the
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testimonies that Virginia has gotten from thebook. But tell me some stories about
creating or co creating miracles in yourown life or that you've heard of from
your keeps well. One that Idon't think made it on the on the
landing page because it came later,but I do think that you saw it.
I got from a missionary and um, he did a pastor's conference and
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shared the revelation and you know,some of the stuff from the book,
and all these pastors, I thinkhe said, like four or five different
pastors got physical healing, and soyou know, they just stepped into it
by simple childlike faith. That's sogood. Yeah, And so that was
that was just a more recent one. Yeah, encouraging. So it's you
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know, and then of course therewas a regional pastor's meeting, so all
these pastors are taken it back totheir churches and all over the world.
You know, we're just realizing what'swhat's possible? Right, And that's one
of the reasons why because her bookhas been so how many countries has this
been in? I have no ideait's translated also into Spanish and into Russian.
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Um, but I don't I reallydon't know how many you know,
because it's it's all over the world. But this is one of the reasons
why we created the affiliate program,because if a pastor wants to read the
book, why not send people tothe you know, the do the course
and make money that could support theministry or them personally. It doesn't matter
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what you do with the money,right, But it's just throwing an idea
out there that it could be afundraiser to share this good news that you
can co create your miracles just bybecoming an affiliate. And anyone who takes
the course automatically becomes an affiliate.You just need to follow the instructions that
will come in an email about howto make sure that you're sending out the
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right links that are tied back toyou. So that's why we set this
up, is to become like we'renot only obviously creating more wealth by sharing
this, but it's like we're spreading, we're creating kingdom or literally transforming culture.
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If we could get more people creatingmiracles in their lives, could you
imagine how much more territory we couldtake for the kingdom, you know.
Yeah, well, there have beenquite a few people already that I know,
and maybe some that I don't know, that have used this book,
you know, book clubs and Biblestudies and things, so you know,
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I think the video course will behelpful. Some people enjoy teaching it in
the small group setting, but othersmight be nervous, or they might feel
more comfortable with some chapters than others, so it could just you know,
be a supplement. So that's true. Yeah, yeah, you could get
a group together and just do achapter a week through the through the online
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course, and that would be areally good way to kind of lock arms
and pull those miracles down, becauseit's not it's not about just reading it
or watching the video. It's thedoing bit. And that's why I love
that you even in the book,you've got activations to do, and I
and I dog eared all of thecorners that has stuff for me to do,
(34:45):
so I can go back immediately tothem here well and do this like
you know, and and great,I see it in the in the making
the spiritual tangible, you've got likeDNA cleansing, prayer and communion are on
part of the than things to doin worship, and you know there's there's
uh action guides that are in thecourse, so that there's things to do
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between just watching the video or readingthe book, which there's that's where the
transformation happens, right, Virginia's practicing, you know, being a doer of
the word. And you know,I mean the book was just the answer
to my questions. But it's it'sstill my classroom. It is my co
creation classroom in the Spirit. SoI'm still having to work. And like
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you said, you know, untilI'm walking through walls and you know,
raising the dead on a regular basisand all that stuff is like breathing to
me, then this is the mannathat I you know, that I'm working
until I'm seeing the manifestation of everythingthat I know the Lord died to give
us. So it's still it's forme, It's still okay, this is
(35:53):
my classroom. He told me exactlywhat to do in area with him and
how this works. So love it. Love it. So go ahead over
to Spirit Center business dot com forwardslash miracles to join the course, become
an affiliate, share the good news, you know, go to Virginia Killingsworth
(36:16):
dot com to buy the book orall of her CDs we talked about in
Part one. I don't want tominimize going to your blog and the other
stuff that you have on there.Oh you know what we didn't mention in
part one, and in fact,I should probably just put it in the
show notes that people can actually watchAll Things restored your Ecclesia group on Sunday
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nights at five pm Eastern if theygo to the Facebook group. Is that
correct, Yes, that's correct.Okay, so they can watch it,
and I've participated that way. Theworship is a little bit, a little
bit dicey, depending on how goodyour internet connection is. Maybe my internet
connection wasn't always great because it doesn'tstream right. Yeah. Yeah, we're
(37:00):
in a temporary facility, so it'swe're kind of hobbling along right now.
You know. It's. Oh,it sound good. It's a technology and
stuff. But hopefully soon we'll beable to be in our own place and
we'll be able to nail that alittle better. Or so yeah, yeah
it sound good. Part Yeah,it sound good. But then the teaching
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then that comes after the worship isalways good. And then you can always
go catch the replays again if youIf you can't do it live with them
on Sundays at five pm Eastern,you can go catch the replays over there
on YouTube. Do you have themattached on the website as well? All
Things Restored website. No, Nowyou can go on the All Things Restored
(37:45):
dot org website and you can goyou can access the live stream on Vimeo
Live. But then to catch thereplay, you can catch the whole thing
on Facebook that our Facebook pages AllThings Restored. Also, what we've started
doing the last few months, Connie'sbeen doing this is editing the just the
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teaching out and then posting that onAll Things Restored YouTube channel, so then
you don't have to worry about pastthat. We've just started doing that,
so that takes some of the workout of it and it's just the teaching
all right. Well, shout outto Connie. Thank you Connie for handling
that. You're awesome. Okay,all right, So I think is there
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anything else that's on your heart toshare? Anything that's holy spirits saying you
need to say this? The onlything is just for I mean, and
we know this, but for usto really know it it really is the
Father's good pleasure to give us thekingdom. Really does want us, you
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know not you know, it's notalways easy, and that's unto our overcoming
right working those spiritual muscles, buthe wants us to enjoy the fullness of
the glories of the heavenly realm andto be able to turn our attention to
that place that we can know himmore experientially. And I think, just
whatever you know, wherever you areon your process, just to be faithful,
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don't compare. You know, you'veheard Berlyn and I talk about these
different encounters. And if you're notseeing in the spirit, or you don't
think you are, sometimes you areand you're just not recognizing it because you
think you're expecting something that that you'recomparing to somebody else. But just to
just to keep saying yes to himand know that it is his pleasure to
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give you the kingdom and to lethim get you from here to there anywell,
because he loves you. He doeslove you. Yeah, And of
course I would be happy to doany healing or activation sessions with you if
you do need help seeing or hearingor understanding what's going on or pulling it
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down or any of that kind ofstuff. It's not about me. It's
really about Virginia though, So wedefinitely it's so good because Berlin is so
good with just removing, you know, the blockages, and our souls are
so familiar to us. Sometimes wecan't see that you don't know what you
don't know, and so she's veryskilled at coming in from the outside and
so gently just removing, helping toremove those blockages. And you know,
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Berlin, I've seen, I've I'veexperienced this multiple times, people that had
trouble hearing from the from the fatherbecause they had an abusive natural father,
and they built walls that we're keepingout those words, and they didn't realize
it, but those walls were stillin place, and we're keeping their heavenly
father out. And so, youknow, somebody with skill and sensitivity like
(40:45):
you know, like you Berlin,you just remove those remove those little things
and make those little tweaks and peoplejust take off. Thank you. Yeah,
it's important because God loves you,guys so much. He loves all
of you, each and every oneof you, and he doesn't love us
all the same. He doesn't.He loves us uniquely because he loves us
(41:07):
for who he created us to be, right, So yeah, it's it's
such an intimacy when you when youreceive the love, because like Virginia said,
you might have woundings from from fatherstuff and you can't. And in
Virginia, I just looking at thetime. Here, let me just share
(41:29):
just a little bit just in casesomebody needs to hear this. I'm kind
of feeling like I should. Icould not relate to Jesus as a man
because of the men in my lifeand being wounded that way, and he
showed up as the Lion of Judah. To me, it was so precious.
(41:50):
So for quite a while he wasjust the Lion of Judah and I
could just snuggle up in his maine, you know, and he would be
my champion. Oh I love that. Yeah, it was a precious time
in my life and I certainly neededit. So whatever you guys need,
don't let don't let the things thatyou're afraid of stand in the way of
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intimacy with any of the Godhead.So reach out right, yeah, and
don't be afraid of being deceived.That something a lot of people are afraid
of deception is deception. So weshould have a healthy fear of not walking
in presumption. Right, But ifwe're yielded and we're asking, and we're
saying, Father, is this you? Then just rest and he won't.
(42:37):
He won't let us be deceived.You know. Bill Johnson said said something
to this effect. I don't knowif I'm quoting exactly. So people are
more they have more faith in thedevil's ability to deceive you than they have
faith for the Lord to protect you. Wow. Yeah, I'm like,
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uh, that kind of just releasesome pressure, right, yes, yes,
yeah, all right, one lasttime, Virginia Killingsworth dot com to
go grab the book or her CDsand Spirit Centered Business dot com forward slash
Miracles if you want to take thewhole course and get the immersive experience of
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actually walking it out. All right, Thank you so much, Virginia.
This is great. I can't waitto see you. We're going to see
you in about a month ish.So excited. We love we love it
when you're here with us. Thankyou, Yes, we love what you
bring. Thank you so much.All right, yeah, big shout out
to the all Things Restored family.All Right, you guys, we will
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see you next time. Until then, stay Spear Centered Piece out. Hey
there, SCB peeps. I wantto give a huge shout out and deep
appreciation and thanks to Canadas Benton.She has become a super sponsor for the
Spirit Centered Business show, so Iwould appreciate you helping me and sending blessings
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and abundance back to her. Thankyou so much, Candice, and you
are well loved. Thank you forlistening to Spirit Centered Business with Berlin NUBI.
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