September 25, 2023 • 31 mins
John and I continue the conversation and dive into how his leadership company Wise Counsel now serves Christian business professionals.
BIO RECAP:
John Beehner is an entrepreneur, author, mentor, and radio personality. He has spent nearly 40 years strategizing with Entrepreneurs on how to grow their businesses. He founded Wise Counsel, helping Entrepreneurs and Ministry Executives of Faith focus on the balance between their Business and Spiritual calling.
John has authored 4 books on Christians in the Marketplace. He also hosts a radio show called Inspiration316 on Jacksonville’s 91.7FM, and is highly respected in the community among Christian business leaders.
TOPICS:
– Sharpening the saw
– Grow or die in business
– Unselfish prayer
– Health conferences and bootcamps
– Problem solving
– Character: God’s image
– Intent of founders
– Rock Solid Leadership
– The Great Game of Business
LINKS:
– Learn more: https://askwisecounsel.com
– Find John’s books: https://www.askwisecounsel.com/books
– Join the Activation Ekklesia for Business: http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com/activation
– Join the SCB Tribe: http://facebook.com/groups/scbtribe
Be sure to answer the membership questions so we know you’re legit! 😉Copyright 2023
– Bralynn Newby Int’l. All rights reserved.
BIO RECAP:
John Beehner is an entrepreneur, author, mentor, and radio personality. He has spent nearly 40 years strategizing with Entrepreneurs on how to grow their businesses. He founded Wise Counsel, helping Entrepreneurs and Ministry Executives of Faith focus on the balance between their Business and Spiritual calling.
John has authored 4 books on Christians in the Marketplace. He also hosts a radio show called Inspiration316 on Jacksonville’s 91.7FM, and is highly respected in the community among Christian business leaders.
TOPICS:
– Sharpening the saw
– Grow or die in business
– Unselfish prayer
– Health conferences and bootcamps
– Problem solving
– Character: God’s image
– Intent of founders
– Rock Solid Leadership
– The Great Game of Business
LINKS:
– Learn more: https://askwisecounsel.com
– Find John’s books: https://www.askwisecounsel.com/books
– Join the Activation Ekklesia for Business: http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com/activation
– Join the SCB Tribe: http://facebook.com/groups/scbtribe
Be sure to answer the membership questions so we know you’re legit! 😉Copyright 2023
– Bralynn Newby Int’l. All rights reserved.
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Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business podcast, where we blend the spiritual with the
practical for supernatural results. Now here'syour host, Brolin Nubi. Well,
hello, they're welcome back to SpiritCentered Business. I'm here again with John
Beaner for part two. If youguys missed part one, definitely go to
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to enjoy the podcast. And wedo appreciate your support. We appreciate you
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Thank you so much. We're helpingspread the good news that God is still
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here, he's still active, he'sstill in the business of doing miracles,
and he's in the business of doingmiracles in your business. So make sure
you go to Spirit Centered Business dotcom and catch that free business assessment if
you haven't already. And I thinkthat's all of the news. John,
welcome, Yes, thank you appreciated. Yeah, of course. So I
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want to hear more about what youdo at ask Wise Council and what your
team does about You've got an upcomingboot camp on October five. You know
your books are over there. Youtalked in part one about some testimonies,
So tell us more about what youdo now. Okay, Well, Wise
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Council something we've been doing for nowtwenty four years. Still try to get
it right farewell, but it's definitelya gone calling and learning experience for me
as well as the people who participated. And I have business and ministries involved
in relative of groups. I runthree of them normally, okay. Then
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I run these other health conferences thatI do in the boot camp is that
is an annual event that we dowhere we bring in usually one hundred,
one hundred and fifty different CEOs entrepreneursfrom around the community or even online to
learn about from tot not speakers okay, or people who just had a great
impact on business and ministry as well. So and but Wise Council is a
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monthly meeting okay, and again innormal where people get to know each other
in a group of twelve to fourteenokay, they bring I bring in typical
speakers talking about cash flow, hiring. We've got a guy coming up talking
about mentoring coming up next month.We just had a guy talking about hiring.
You know, we have another guytalking about cash flow, okay,
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you know, basic things like that, Others talking about actually going to Israel
okay, and what's Israel all about? What's one of the we had We
brought some entrepreneurs or from Israel tohelp meet with some more guys who are
looking for capital and things like that. The disappointing part for me, I
didn't realize this, but only ahalf of one percent of the Jewish people
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in Israel are committed Christian people.Okay, but we're funding there their number
one business, which is tourism,you know, from Americans primarily, even
though people around the Christian around theworld will go over there, of course.
But I mean it's a continuous learningprocess. Keep learning, keep getting
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new ideas or old ideas that youcan reuse and sharpen the saw Okay,
stop trying to use the same dullsaw top and take time, get out
of your business, get out ofyour comfort zone, and learn from outsiders.
Okay. This is the problem.The problem I've seen with a lot
of entrepreneurs as they think tactically insteadof strategically. Tactically is the things you
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have to do every day of course, you know you're going to get interrupted
and get your phone calls because we'reinterruption, problems with distribution, problems with
cash flow again, whatever it mightbe. And you you fight some of
those fires. I mean, there'sother things you're doing. They're good,
okay, But it's about growing ultimately, because the average business of Christian or
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not loses twenty percent of its customersevery year. So you have to keep
growing. You grow, or youdie, okay. And so this is
where it's all about still growing,and that means growing as a person,
being more even making more context throughpeople. Every person knows two hundred and
fifty other people that could help youin the business or help you with ideas
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or growth or consulting or whatever thatmight be. So and so that morning
portion we're up in dating each otherabout what's going on personally in business wise,
family, that kind of stuff,because we're friends and come and real
good friends together. And then whathappens is we bring in that speaker that
talks about gisiness, arrows or ideasor saying and we only use that for
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about ninety minutes to two hours,okay, but a lot of good and
take back and forth and then weend up having lunch of course together,
pray together, and then we dealwith issues decisions people are going to make
in their business, a family,and their personal things as well, and
about it might be by growing anotheropening another branch somewhere else, okay,
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it might be about having to terminatea partner Okay it didn't work out.
Was a way to get expected tobe or how do you actually innovate through
We just spent time on AI,of course, you know artificial intelligence,
the good and the bad of that, and how how to use it or
not get freaked out about it.It's kind of crazy. I was talking
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to somebody this morning about how AIis so predominant already, but you can't
talk to anybody anymore. You goto somebody's website, there's no phone number.
You have to go to chat oryou submit a form. Okay,
that is so impersonal, okay,And but what happens You got to deal
with a kind of things, youknow, how do you how do you
make yourself better or still be ableto answer the phone. I called Hobby
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Lobby the other day to talk toDavid Green there in his office, and
they have a switch board operator canyou believe that. You know, if
you ever heard of one of thosedays, that's that's not a new thing
used to be around. I usedto write letters to and stuff like that,
right, But anyway, so it'sit's a different world today, and
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the Internet is of impacting everybody,and obviously COVID, you know, taught
everybody zoom. It's a good thing. Ultimately because of certain things, it's
not as good a thing in asense, it's not personal relationships aren't quite
as deep as they used to beeither. So but anyway, in the
afternoon of those kind of issues,and we end up praying together and breaking
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into the twos. I pray foryou, you pray for me. I
called an unselfish prayer. And we'vehad a prayer list to start the morning.
But we then we see and wesing a praise God ang at the
end together as brothers and sisters inChrist. And so that's kind of and
then we I meet with them oneon one every month or every other month,
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depend upon their needs and those andI'm trying to decide for what can
we bring to the group in termsof issue decisions are going to make that
the group can contribute to they're thinkingand give them ideas and wisdom and contexts
and that kind of stuff. Soso that's kind of way the group process
operates anyway. So can people canpeople participate by zoomers? This only in
Jacksonville with these meetings, Well,we're only doing the meets in Jacksonville.
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I've had him, as I said, of ten other cities. Got told
me to pull back from that andconcentrate here because he wanted to me to
be more innovative and more write books, do radio and other things like that.
So the boot camp obviously is onlineand that's a big event that we
do. But we had groups inMinneapolis and Denver and Raleigh, North Carolina
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and Orlando other things. But that'snot the guy in the path God's chose
me to go on. Even thoughI'm happy to work with people in those
cities that may want to start awise Announcer group, you know, and
take it in their area. That'sgood. But what's your names portion on
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that? That's okay? I wantI want to hear some testimonies about people
you've worked with and how God movedin their business and some breakthroughs that the
guy Yeah, okay, Well wehad a gentleman I'll never forget as long
as I live. He was hadhad a company, was software business.
It's sold software the restaurants. Andhe came to our meeting for the first
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time and he says, I don'tknow why I'm here. You know,
John suggested this would help me.And but I got a pickle. The
bank's canceling my loan, two hundredfifty thousand dollars loan. And the software
that the company that we worked with, they finally said they can't make it
work, so they quit, okay. And so I've already I've been out
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selling it and got gained deposits andI've gotten close to two hundred thousand dollars
worth of deposits, okay, Andso how am I going to get out
of this pickle? The bank isgoing to call my loan? Okay?
And so and the group says,here's the way you do it. You
go to another bank. You goto a different bank that is more receptive,
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because a lot of banks they pigeonholewhere they are. Some are stronger
in real estate, some are strongerin software technology, some are stronger you
know, and and just real estatehome building, Okay, others in retail,
you know, so others in militaryservices. We have a fair amount
of military in our area with theNavy, et cetera. But and so
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that's a that's really wisdom. Andhe said, so for the next eight
years he stuck around, okay,because he got along within the next three
weeks from another bank, the DylanBridge his business, but kept it alive
for another eight years and effect hisson initially took over the business. But
that's a great testimony. I haveso many others about I mean life to
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say. We had one guy who'sa movie producer and he's done. He's
won sixteen Emmy Awards, okay,and he's nowt now raising money from Southeast
Age of Belabor or mine for peoplegoing to support a movie, a fifty
million dollars movie that's going to bedone within it by twenty twenty five.
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Up on the story of Paul againa different version of it all, and
it's very exciting. And yet hemade contacts for some of our people,
for people in Southeast Asia. Ihad another experience where I had a guy
in the early days of the otherbusiness that was in the manufacturing business,
and he was doing about two milliondollars, but he had a fire and
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he lost about half of his inventory. So he had to then go to
the insurance company to ask him topay about three hundred thousand dollars of loss
ahead and they denied him. Andhe kept said, well it's right here
in the contract. Is it whatthe churches will provide for? And so
and I said, look, letme see what I do to help you.
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So I found a contact for him, believe it or not, who
was in California, who knew thepresident of that insurance company face to face
personally. And he ends up callingthe president insurance center said, by the
way, do you know you havea loan in Jacksonville, Florida that's got
this problem and you're not following throughthe way you're supposed to. He said
really okay, So within three monthshe had the money in hand. Okay.
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And that's what contacts and connections cando win and for you. Okay.
So testimonies, we have him comingout our ears and with the speakers
that we have at the boot camp, and this last last year we had
six different speakers, one of whichwas a guy who was the leadership development
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director under True and Kathy for twentythree years, and true Kathy said to
him many years ago, we'll neverrun on the chicken, but we're we'll
run out of leaders if we don'tstart developing them. And so he said,
your job is start creating leadership programsin development. So he did and
explained what he did. He talkedabout what was the secret to Chick fil
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A's success, and his biblical principlesfor the most part, of course,
obviously, and so he explained allof that to us. We had another
guy coming from Fresno, California,which is kind of interesting because there we
are Jacksonville for it. He wasin a Navy in Jacksonville. And what
ends up happening is that he andthis other guy, young guy, they
were on the beach and looked atthese two cute girls and said, hey,
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can we take your dinner or somethinglike that, and they said no,
no, no, no, batWe're going to church somewhere. If
you want to tag along, youcan go. He said, okay,
we'll tag along, we'll go.Let's do that. And so the guy
with both of them got saved inthe West Side Baptist Church. Okay,
hey, god, I didn't marryher but what ends up happening is over
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time he got into more ministry thingsafter getting out of the military, and
he ends up working for Family TreeFarms in Fresno, California in that area.
Turns out that he's the chief operatingofficer and they're in like seven different
countries growing fruits and for Costco andfor publics and other supermarket chains. Okay,
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blueberries, you're wrong. So theyget him from you know, near
to Southeast Asia, maybe in inthe wintertime, you know, or the
conferencing Michigan is big on blueberries,so the state of Washington and blackberries and
areas and all this kind of thing. But they need him year around.
Okay, so they grow them andthey every time they open a new farm
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in these other countries, what theydo is they bring in a chapelain and
they start a church. Well,and it's a half a billion dollar company.
He came all the way from Presdoto speak for us and tell us
that story. How inspiring is that? And another guy was a CPA who
was out of Wisconsin, advised hiscompany out of bankruptcy and now he's got
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it in seventeen states, okay,twenty eight locations and only had three when
he started, you know what Imean. And he's written a book all
of us experiences as well, Sowe get a lot of blessed people to
be able to share with us inspiredus, and we have at this meeting
coming up October the fifth, PatMorley's agreed to speak for us. Now,
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I'm about Pat Morley years ago inOrlando when I'm starting a group down
there with the other business that Ihad in the secular business. So he
was involved with us for seven oreight years in a group. But he's
God coddled him to start teaching,and he did. He started teaching in
a local bar, a labor restaurantand bar Bible studies because they were closed
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during that time, but guys wouldcome in the morning, you know what
I mean. And then he startedgrowing and growing it now and he left
that years ago, but he washe was. He was a partner in
fifty nine different corporations at one timeor other in the real estate deals that
he did. So he ends up. He's he's only written twenty two books.
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Only twenty third is coming out thisnext month, Okay, But I've
known a long time. He's ablessed guy. And he had bad upbringing
are difficult, but bringing us andsay where his mom left and his dad
was was the mom and the dadand took him to church every Sunday no
matter what. And so Pat becamea very strong Christian guy. And so
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its lit't be excited to have himcome and share. We have another guy
that's committed to be with us.Two is they Bill Axelon, and he
is the former chaplain of the BostonCeltics. Okay, and those Larry Bird
and all the big guys there.In fact, one of the guys were
expecting he'll be able to speak worse. Two is Dee Brown. I don't
you heard of him, but hewas a local Jacksonville guy who went to
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high school here and went to JU. Was drafted number one by the Celtics
and won the Slam Dunk Contest aswell, and was an incredible player for
them, you know, and agreat African American guy. And we're trying
to get artist Gilmore, who wasanother local guy. He's only seventh foot
two, but he played in theNBA day for and he was on the
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the JU Jackson University team that wasback in the sixties or seventies whatever it
was where they were like second toUCLA. They lost to ucl in the
championship game NCAA tournament. But soit's gonna be a fun event, and
we've got other people coming to withincredible testimonies. But to me, it's
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all about inspiring people to walk withChrist and also to see where He's calling
is to do in business or ministryand maximize the effort. So oh so
good. Let me see you alsohave rock solid leadership and rock solid Leadership
certification. Tell me about those.That's a program where you're still refining.
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Rock Sidle leadership is the seven cornerstonesof building a business on a solid foundation.
I don't loud down the first interviewabout the first one being what I
call character, the first commandments inthe Book of Genesis about take on your
God's nature, character, and whathappens is it's about following the vision God
gives you and taking risk, andyou're going to fail. Obviously, everybody
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fails or should. If you haven'tfailed, you're a saint and you don't
belong here on earth. And thesecond, of course, is the moral
commandments, a value about loving yourcustomers appremen they're the people where you treat
people, okay. And then third, of course is the visions of God
through the Holy Spirit. God speaksto you and talks to your heart,
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having all the gods before me ina false and Jesus gave an outline all
of that in the first book aboutJesus gave they talked about the spirit of
the law, because for every law, every commandment, there's a spirit,
there's an intent, just like thereis with a congress or with even a
law legislation's passed. Well, whatwas the real intent of the Founding Fathers,
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of the real intent of the peoplewho wrote this law to begin with?
Okay, I mean one of thegreat examples that the Founders did in
America was the whole bankruptcy law businessthat we have in America, Whereas in
England, if you went bankrupt,they put you in prison. Well,
now, the Founders said, that'skind of crazy, because that's not forgiving,
that's not the kind of thing thatGod would allow us. Because he
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used the Bible as the guide,I shouldn't develop a constitution. But what
they ended up doing is that inEngland they've got a strap. So in
America they said well, we're gonnahave to give them restrictions of how they
worked themselves out dead. They'll haveto stay and be employed to be able
to pay back the money that they'velost. Are old people, you know,
and so it's a whole different worldin terms I had. I spoke
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for a group many times from aguy who's escaped Communism, actually from Czechoslovakia.
He was on the national volleyball team. They played in Norway, I
think it was, and rather thanget on the team bus, he left
for the kind of States and camehere, immigrated, taught school in Tennessee
for years, and then he camedown here in Jacksonville when the wallkam bent
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down in nineteen eighty nine. Sohe said, I wanted to bring the
people where all these now these countriesare now free. They need to learn
how to do business, and theyto speak English, you know, I
mean, this is the language thatmost people do business. Spot And so
he brought people over and he askedme to come in and speak about business.
And then, of course I usethe biblical approach to explaining to people
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what are the basic laws that Godput it in place and that the founding
fathers use to develop our constitution.And one of the things that to me
was an interesting story is we Itook them to lunch, about eight or
nine of them at one time,at a restaurant, and I'm paying the
bill for all of us. Andthis guy comes up to me afterwards say
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what are you doing? What areyou doing? He's chapping me on it,
so don't do that. Don't dothat. And I say, well,
I'm just signing for the credit cardto pay the bill. He said,
you can't do that, don't youknow. There are people following you.
You can't trust anybody. You can'ttrust anybody. You have to be
very very careful. You don't giveyour credit card to anybody. They could
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put it. Twenty dollars became twohundred dollars. And I said, yeah,
well that's where it is. InAmerica. The law is you love
your neighbor. You try to treatpeople with respect and kindness. The Golden
rule to still exist, you know. And there are teeters and liars,
you know, but our goal isto keep them in their place and get
them out of our way. Butthis is what happens. It was to
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trust people. And there's a differentsociety over here. But anyway, that's
a done, a little example,a little testimony. But so yes,
I think again the seven cornerstones abuilding buses on the rock slid what I
call the rock solid foundation, okay, and the blueprint of it all,
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I have an illustration which I donot have to be able to show you
all. I have it in thisbook of course. Here this book is
what I call rock solid leadership blueprint. Now there, this book has sixty
five companies or ministries in the UnitedStates that were amending to help you put
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into place in your company the sevencornerstones, okay. And and what happens
is that they're all referenced here bytheir site and information quotes about it.
You probably can't see this well enough, but this is that what we illustrate
with the seven cornerstones. Just youat the bottom of the seven cornerstones,
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okay, character, moral, spiritualtruths, you know, wisdom, discernment,
there's sharing all of it. Alot of it's about sharing Christ in
your business. And then you havethe tactical area, which are the bigger
bricks as you build up in yourbusiness. And then of course on the
top is the grace of God.You know, covering your business. So
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that is something we lay out andgive illustrations of. But in each of
those cornerstones we give examples of whatcompanies are doing. And we've had two
years ago we had people come speakabout that. One of my favorites is
a guy named Jack's Tech, Springfield, Missouri. His story is so powerful
he written books to start it witha book. First book was called A
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Great Team of Business. What endedup happening to him? He was in
it from an area in Chicago asa kid, went down to Springfield,
Missouri and worked for a big companyand re manufacturing. They rebuilt diesel engines,
and what ends up happening is thatthe company, parent company comes that
He's becomes the manager. Believe ornot. I mean, this is a
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guy that pointed out of some schoolor whatever, but became the manager of
this plant with a hundred employees.We're building diesel engines. And the company
came and said, well, we'regoing to sell the business. You know,
I don't know if you've been toSpringfield, Missouri, but it's a
beautiful town. It's a Middle America. It's Basic Values. Assemblies of God
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as a ministry headquartered there and I'vebeen there a couple of times, got
to visit him in his business andall. But what happens and I have
to speak probably thirty forty times throughthe years, both the other business in
this business. But his story isso powerful because he said to the owners
that, well, we don't wantyou to sell it to somebody. We
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may lose our jobs or maybe youknow, just dropped, you know.
And he said, they said,well, you can buy it if you
want us two million dollars to meand doll Well, let me see if
we can raise the money among ourselves. And so there's like five guys that
get together and they come up witha one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
They can come up with, oh, well that's not quite two million dollars.
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And so what ends up happening isthat I'm realizing this light is too
bright on me instant right here,and just trying to turn it over to
the side of little maybe it'll bebetter. But anyway, what ends up
happening is that he ends up goingto twenty two banks so trying to get
along, okay, and turned downeveryone except the last one, okay.
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But in the meantime, the business. The corporation sells the business somebody else,
who then gives it back to hittingthem and said, we don't want
it anyway. So he's still tryingto buy the business. But the Bank
of America during Jimmy Carter days,I don't know if you know things about
that, but twenty two percent interestsokay, on a loan of two million
dollars. He got the loan Bankof American in San Francisco at the time
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before they merged and became national andall that kind of stuff like they are.
But anyway, he comes back tothe guys there at the business and
says, okay, guys, wegot the money to stay alive, but
we have thirty thousand dollars of interestto pay every week. So we got
to make money fast quick and dowell. Okay. So every one of
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you guys is a stockholder. Okay. You all got a share stock in
this company, okay. And thensecond of all, you're going to get
percentage of how well we do.We're gonna have meetings in every department every
week, you know, and we'regonna be doing this and that and these
other principles, biblical principles. Helays down. Get what he doesn't build
a company of owners. These guysthey had, they taught them all how
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to read financial statements, so theyall became a team together on the same
page. That company's drawn from atthat point in time was probably a five
or ten million dollars company, soat eighty to fifty and now it's a
three hundred million dollar company with liketwenty different companies underneath it. And Jack
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and his team go out and teachpeople still how to run a business from
this basis. Okay, the greatgame of business, and it's it's an
incredibly good concept, but it's biblicalagain, it's the way God would have
us to do. It doesn't meanyou have everybody's voting on everything, but
it does mean that you're you're gettingpeople to participate in a sense of ownership.
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The more you can do then inthe company, the more you'll have
a stronger business. These are justsome of the things that I've talked that
we talked about in the book.But good so again, you guys,
I'm not sure that I mentioned itin this one. I know I mentioned
it in the last one. Allof John's books are available on his website.
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The first one the True Wealth bythe book is that was that was
the one that was the Ten Commandmentsin Business, Right, and then I've
had you changed the name so thatone's available and all of the other books
that John has written, and weare eagerly waiting for that fifth book that
that is going to When when isthat going to be ready? Do you
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know? Well, I think bythe end of this month we'll have it
ready in terms of get it tothe printer because it'll be more graphics than
be added and stuff like that.Sure. Sure, So so you guys
can go to again ask why iscouncil dot com to check out everything that
John has over there and check outthat boot camp that's coming up October fifth
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there in Jacksonville. Right, doyou have any hotels or anything set up
blocks of rooms that if people arecoming from out of town, knowing the
fis, we'll get in a room. But that's what they were like,
Okay, there's plenty of rooms available. Of course, you know we're in
a first state for that matter.You know, building is booming around here,
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so sure a lot of people liketo stay in the venue or close
anyway where you're going to have itat least eight hundred hotel rooms right within
a mile of us here, soawesome. The CAFs facilities facility, and
we're beating in the Salem Center,which is a radio network that was found
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in many years and going by aguy in stew Everson, and we had
speak many times and he's the onethat asked me to do radio shows.
He just passed away a few weeksago, unfortunately. But they have one
hundred and forty radio stations around thecountry, but their headquarters is here,
and Eric with Texas is one ofthe big people on that network. And
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but it's fund it's exciting keeping Ohthat's good, awesome. Well, you
guys, thank you so much forjoining watching the show. We appreciate that.
Make sure that you share it outthere, get the message out there,
because ask Wise console could be theanswer to some of the problems that
you or someone you know might havein business. So go ahead and check
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dot com. And of course Iwill have the link in the show notes.
So John, thank you again forcoming on for Centered Business. I
appreciate you. I appreciate your Thankyou so much. There's an honor to
have you, honor to be interviewed. Thank you, thank you, thank
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you, pless you too, Thankyou so much. Okay, until the
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Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business podcast, where we blend the spiritual with the
practical for supernatural results. Now here'syour host, Brolin Nubi. Well,
hello, they're welcome back to SpiritCentered Business. I'm here again with John
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you haven't already. And I thinkthat's all of the news. John,
welcome, Yes, thank you appreciated. Yeah, of course. So I
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want to hear more about what youdo at ask Wise Council and what your
team does about You've got an upcomingboot camp on October five. You know
your books are over there. Youtalked in part one about some testimonies,
So tell us more about what youdo now. Okay, Well, Wise
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Council something we've been doing for nowtwenty four years. Still try to get
it right farewell, but it's definitelya gone calling and learning experience for me
as well as the people who participated. And I have business and ministries involved
in relative of groups. I runthree of them normally, okay. Then
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I run these other health conferences thatI do in the boot camp is that
is an annual event that we dowhere we bring in usually one hundred,
one hundred and fifty different CEOs entrepreneursfrom around the community or even online to
learn about from tot not speakers okay, or people who just had a great
impact on business and ministry as well. So and but Wise Council is a
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monthly meeting okay, and again innormal where people get to know each other
in a group of twelve to fourteenokay, they bring I bring in typical
speakers talking about cash flow, hiring. We've got a guy coming up talking
about mentoring coming up next month.We just had a guy talking about hiring.
You know, we have another guytalking about cash flow, okay,
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you know, basic things like that, Others talking about actually going to Israel
okay, and what's Israel all about? What's one of the we had We
brought some entrepreneurs or from Israel tohelp meet with some more guys who are
looking for capital and things like that. The disappointing part for me, I
didn't realize this, but only ahalf of one percent of the Jewish people
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in Israel are committed Christian people.Okay, but we're funding there their number
one business, which is tourism,you know, from Americans primarily, even
though people around the Christian around theworld will go over there, of course.
But I mean it's a continuous learningprocess. Keep learning, keep getting
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new ideas or old ideas that youcan reuse and sharpen the saw Okay,
stop trying to use the same dullsaw top and take time, get out
of your business, get out ofyour comfort zone, and learn from outsiders.
Okay. This is the problem.The problem I've seen with a lot
of entrepreneurs as they think tactically insteadof strategically. Tactically is the things you
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have to do every day of course, you know you're going to get interrupted
and get your phone calls because we'reinterruption, problems with distribution, problems with
cash flow again, whatever it mightbe. And you you fight some of
those fires. I mean, there'sother things you're doing. They're good,
okay, But it's about growing ultimately, because the average business of Christian or
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not loses twenty percent of its customersevery year. So you have to keep
growing. You grow, or youdie, okay. And so this is
where it's all about still growing,and that means growing as a person,
being more even making more context throughpeople. Every person knows two hundred and
fifty other people that could help youin the business or help you with ideas
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or growth or consulting or whatever thatmight be. So and so that morning
portion we're up in dating each otherabout what's going on personally in business wise,
family, that kind of stuff,because we're friends and come and real
good friends together. And then whathappens is we bring in that speaker that
talks about gisiness, arrows or ideasor saying and we only use that for
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about ninety minutes to two hours,okay, but a lot of good and
take back and forth and then weend up having lunch of course together,
pray together, and then we dealwith issues decisions people are going to make
in their business, a family,and their personal things as well, and
about it might be by growing anotheropening another branch somewhere else, okay,
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it might be about having to terminatea partner Okay it didn't work out.
Was a way to get expected tobe or how do you actually innovate through
We just spent time on AI,of course, you know artificial intelligence,
the good and the bad of that, and how how to use it or
not get freaked out about it.It's kind of crazy. I was talking
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to somebody this morning about how AIis so predominant already, but you can't
talk to anybody anymore. You goto somebody's website, there's no phone number.
You have to go to chat oryou submit a form. Okay,
that is so impersonal, okay,And but what happens You got to deal
with a kind of things, youknow, how do you how do you
make yourself better or still be ableto answer the phone. I called Hobby
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Lobby the other day to talk toDavid Green there in his office, and
they have a switch board operator canyou believe that. You know, if
you ever heard of one of thosedays, that's that's not a new thing
used to be around. I usedto write letters to and stuff like that,
right, But anyway, so it'sit's a different world today, and
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the Internet is of impacting everybody,and obviously COVID, you know, taught
everybody zoom. It's a good thing. Ultimately because of certain things, it's
not as good a thing in asense, it's not personal relationships aren't quite
as deep as they used to beeither. So but anyway, in the
afternoon of those kind of issues,and we end up praying together and breaking
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into the twos. I pray foryou, you pray for me. I
called an unselfish prayer. And we'vehad a prayer list to start the morning.
But we then we see and wesing a praise God ang at the
end together as brothers and sisters inChrist. And so that's kind of and
then we I meet with them oneon one every month or every other month,
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depend upon their needs and those andI'm trying to decide for what can
we bring to the group in termsof issue decisions are going to make that
the group can contribute to they're thinkingand give them ideas and wisdom and contexts
and that kind of stuff. Soso that's kind of way the group process
operates anyway. So can people canpeople participate by zoomers? This only in
Jacksonville with these meetings, Well,we're only doing the meets in Jacksonville.
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I've had him, as I said, of ten other cities. Got told
me to pull back from that andconcentrate here because he wanted to me to
be more innovative and more write books, do radio and other things like that.
So the boot camp obviously is onlineand that's a big event that we
do. But we had groups inMinneapolis and Denver and Raleigh, North Carolina
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and Orlando other things. But that'snot the guy in the path God's chose
me to go on. Even thoughI'm happy to work with people in those
cities that may want to start awise Announcer group, you know, and
take it in their area. That'sgood. But what's your names portion on
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that? That's okay? I wantI want to hear some testimonies about people
you've worked with and how God movedin their business and some breakthroughs that the
guy Yeah, okay, Well wehad a gentleman I'll never forget as long
as I live. He was hadhad a company, was software business.
It's sold software the restaurants. Andhe came to our meeting for the first
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time and he says, I don'tknow why I'm here. You know,
John suggested this would help me.And but I got a pickle. The
bank's canceling my loan, two hundredfifty thousand dollars loan. And the software
that the company that we worked with, they finally said they can't make it
work, so they quit, okay. And so I've already I've been out
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selling it and got gained deposits andI've gotten close to two hundred thousand dollars
worth of deposits, okay, Andso how am I going to get out
of this pickle? The bank isgoing to call my loan? Okay?
And so and the group says,here's the way you do it. You
go to another bank. You goto a different bank that is more receptive,
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because a lot of banks they pigeonholewhere they are. Some are stronger
in real estate, some are strongerin software technology, some are stronger you
know, and and just real estatehome building, Okay, others in retail,
you know, so others in militaryservices. We have a fair amount
of military in our area with theNavy, et cetera. But and so
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that's a that's really wisdom. Andhe said, so for the next eight
years he stuck around, okay,because he got along within the next three
weeks from another bank, the DylanBridge his business, but kept it alive
for another eight years and effect hisson initially took over the business. But
that's a great testimony. I haveso many others about I mean life to
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say. We had one guy who'sa movie producer and he's done. He's
won sixteen Emmy Awards, okay,and he's nowt now raising money from Southeast
Age of Belabor or mine for peoplegoing to support a movie, a fifty
million dollars movie that's going to bedone within it by twenty twenty five.
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Up on the story of Paul againa different version of it all, and
it's very exciting. And yet hemade contacts for some of our people,
for people in Southeast Asia. Ihad another experience where I had a guy
in the early days of the otherbusiness that was in the manufacturing business,
and he was doing about two milliondollars, but he had a fire and
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he lost about half of his inventory. So he had to then go to
the insurance company to ask him topay about three hundred thousand dollars of loss
ahead and they denied him. Andhe kept said, well it's right here
in the contract. Is it whatthe churches will provide for? And so
and I said, look, letme see what I do to help you.
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So I found a contact for him, believe it or not, who
was in California, who knew thepresident of that insurance company face to face
personally. And he ends up callingthe president insurance center said, by the
way, do you know you havea loan in Jacksonville, Florida that's got
this problem and you're not following throughthe way you're supposed to. He said
really okay, So within three monthshe had the money in hand. Okay.
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And that's what contacts and connections cando win and for you. Okay.
So testimonies, we have him comingout our ears and with the speakers
that we have at the boot camp, and this last last year we had
six different speakers, one of whichwas a guy who was the leadership development
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director under True and Kathy for twentythree years, and true Kathy said to
him many years ago, we'll neverrun on the chicken, but we're we'll
run out of leaders if we don'tstart developing them. And so he said,
your job is start creating leadership programsin development. So he did and
explained what he did. He talkedabout what was the secret to Chick fil
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A's success, and his biblical principlesfor the most part, of course,
obviously, and so he explained allof that to us. We had another
guy coming from Fresno, California,which is kind of interesting because there we
are Jacksonville for it. He wasin a Navy in Jacksonville. And what
ends up happening is that he andthis other guy, young guy, they
were on the beach and looked atthese two cute girls and said, hey,
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can we take your dinner or somethinglike that, and they said no,
no, no, no, batWe're going to church somewhere. If
you want to tag along, youcan go. He said, okay,
we'll tag along, we'll go.Let's do that. And so the guy
with both of them got saved inthe West Side Baptist Church. Okay,
hey, god, I didn't marryher but what ends up happening is over
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time he got into more ministry thingsafter getting out of the military, and
he ends up working for Family TreeFarms in Fresno, California in that area.
Turns out that he's the chief operatingofficer and they're in like seven different
countries growing fruits and for Costco andfor publics and other supermarket chains. Okay,
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blueberries, you're wrong. So theyget him from you know, near
to Southeast Asia, maybe in inthe wintertime, you know, or the
conferencing Michigan is big on blueberries,so the state of Washington and blackberries and
areas and all this kind of thing. But they need him year around.
Okay, so they grow them andthey every time they open a new farm
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in these other countries, what theydo is they bring in a chapelain and
they start a church. Well,and it's a half a billion dollar company.
He came all the way from Presdoto speak for us and tell us
that story. How inspiring is that? And another guy was a CPA who
was out of Wisconsin, advised hiscompany out of bankruptcy and now he's got
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it in seventeen states, okay,twenty eight locations and only had three when
he started, you know what Imean. And he's written a book all
of us experiences as well, Sowe get a lot of blessed people to
be able to share with us inspiredus, and we have at this meeting
coming up October the fifth, PatMorley's agreed to speak for us. Now,
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I'm about Pat Morley years ago inOrlando when I'm starting a group down
there with the other business that Ihad in the secular business. So he
was involved with us for seven oreight years in a group. But he's
God coddled him to start teaching,and he did. He started teaching in
a local bar, a labor restaurantand bar Bible studies because they were closed
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during that time, but guys wouldcome in the morning, you know what
I mean. And then he startedgrowing and growing it now and he left
that years ago, but he washe was. He was a partner in
fifty nine different corporations at one timeor other in the real estate deals that
he did. So he ends up. He's he's only written twenty two books.
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Only twenty third is coming out thisnext month, Okay, But I've
known a long time. He's ablessed guy. And he had bad upbringing
are difficult, but bringing us andsay where his mom left and his dad
was was the mom and the dadand took him to church every Sunday no
matter what. And so Pat becamea very strong Christian guy. And so
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its lit't be excited to have himcome and share. We have another guy
that's committed to be with us.Two is they Bill Axelon, and he
is the former chaplain of the BostonCeltics. Okay, and those Larry Bird
and all the big guys there.In fact, one of the guys were
expecting he'll be able to speak worse. Two is Dee Brown. I don't
you heard of him, but hewas a local Jacksonville guy who went to
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high school here and went to JU. Was drafted number one by the Celtics
and won the Slam Dunk Contest aswell, and was an incredible player for
them, you know, and agreat African American guy. And we're trying
to get artist Gilmore, who wasanother local guy. He's only seventh foot
two, but he played in theNBA day for and he was on the
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the JU Jackson University team that wasback in the sixties or seventies whatever it
was where they were like second toUCLA. They lost to ucl in the
championship game NCAA tournament. But soit's gonna be a fun event, and
we've got other people coming to withincredible testimonies. But to me, it's
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all about inspiring people to walk withChrist and also to see where He's calling
is to do in business or ministryand maximize the effort. So oh so
good. Let me see you alsohave rock solid leadership and rock solid Leadership
certification. Tell me about those.That's a program where you're still refining.
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Rock Sidle leadership is the seven cornerstonesof building a business on a solid foundation.
I don't loud down the first interviewabout the first one being what I
call character, the first commandments inthe Book of Genesis about take on your
God's nature, character, and whathappens is it's about following the vision God
gives you and taking risk, andyou're going to fail. Obviously, everybody
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fails or should. If you haven'tfailed, you're a saint and you don't
belong here on earth. And thesecond, of course, is the moral
commandments, a value about loving yourcustomers appremen they're the people where you treat
people, okay. And then third, of course is the visions of God
through the Holy Spirit. God speaksto you and talks to your heart,
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having all the gods before me ina false and Jesus gave an outline all
of that in the first book aboutJesus gave they talked about the spirit of
the law, because for every law, every commandment, there's a spirit,
there's an intent, just like thereis with a congress or with even a
law legislation's passed. Well, whatwas the real intent of the Founding Fathers,
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of the real intent of the peoplewho wrote this law to begin with?
Okay, I mean one of thegreat examples that the Founders did in
America was the whole bankruptcy law businessthat we have in America, Whereas in
England, if you went bankrupt,they put you in prison. Well,
now, the Founders said, that'skind of crazy, because that's not forgiving,
that's not the kind of thing thatGod would allow us. Because he
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used the Bible as the guide,I shouldn't develop a constitution. But what
they ended up doing is that inEngland they've got a strap. So in
America they said well, we're gonnahave to give them restrictions of how they
worked themselves out dead. They'll haveto stay and be employed to be able
to pay back the money that they'velost. Are old people, you know,
and so it's a whole different worldin terms I had. I spoke
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for a group many times from aguy who's escaped Communism, actually from Czechoslovakia.
He was on the national volleyball team. They played in Norway, I
think it was, and rather thanget on the team bus, he left
for the kind of States and camehere, immigrated, taught school in Tennessee
for years, and then he camedown here in Jacksonville when the wallkam bent
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down in nineteen eighty nine. Sohe said, I wanted to bring the
people where all these now these countriesare now free. They need to learn
how to do business, and theyto speak English, you know, I
mean, this is the language thatmost people do business. Spot And so
he brought people over and he askedme to come in and speak about business.
And then, of course I usethe biblical approach to explaining to people
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what are the basic laws that Godput it in place and that the founding
fathers use to develop our constitution.And one of the things that to me
was an interesting story is we Itook them to lunch, about eight or
nine of them at one time,at a restaurant, and I'm paying the
bill for all of us. Andthis guy comes up to me afterwards say
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what are you doing? What areyou doing? He's chapping me on it,
so don't do that. Don't dothat. And I say, well,
I'm just signing for the credit cardto pay the bill. He said,
you can't do that, don't youknow. There are people following you.
You can't trust anybody. You can'ttrust anybody. You have to be
very very careful. You don't giveyour credit card to anybody. They could
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put it. Twenty dollars became twohundred dollars. And I said, yeah,
well that's where it is. InAmerica. The law is you love
your neighbor. You try to treatpeople with respect and kindness. The Golden
rule to still exist, you know. And there are teeters and liars,
you know, but our goal isto keep them in their place and get
them out of our way. Butthis is what happens. It was to
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trust people. And there's a differentsociety over here. But anyway, that's
a done, a little example,a little testimony. But so yes,
I think again the seven cornerstones abuilding buses on the rock slid what I
call the rock solid foundation, okay, and the blueprint of it all,
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I have an illustration which I donot have to be able to show you
all. I have it in thisbook of course. Here this book is
what I call rock solid leadership blueprint. Now there, this book has sixty
five companies or ministries in the UnitedStates that were amending to help you put
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into place in your company the sevencornerstones, okay. And and what happens
is that they're all referenced here bytheir site and information quotes about it.
You probably can't see this well enough, but this is that what we illustrate
with the seven cornerstones. Just youat the bottom of the seven cornerstones,
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okay, character, moral, spiritualtruths, you know, wisdom, discernment,
there's sharing all of it. Alot of it's about sharing Christ in
your business. And then you havethe tactical area, which are the bigger
bricks as you build up in yourbusiness. And then of course on the
top is the grace of God.You know, covering your business. So
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that is something we lay out andgive illustrations of. But in each of
those cornerstones we give examples of whatcompanies are doing. And we've had two
years ago we had people come speakabout that. One of my favorites is
a guy named Jack's Tech, Springfield, Missouri. His story is so powerful
he written books to start it witha book. First book was called A
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Great Team of Business. What endedup happening to him? He was in
it from an area in Chicago asa kid, went down to Springfield,
Missouri and worked for a big companyand re manufacturing. They rebuilt diesel engines,
and what ends up happening is thatthe company, parent company comes that
He's becomes the manager. Believe ornot. I mean, this is a
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guy that pointed out of some schoolor whatever, but became the manager of
this plant with a hundred employees.We're building diesel engines. And the company
came and said, well, we'regoing to sell the business. You know,
I don't know if you've been toSpringfield, Missouri, but it's a
beautiful town. It's a Middle America. It's Basic Values. Assemblies of God
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as a ministry headquartered there and I'vebeen there a couple of times, got
to visit him in his business andall. But what happens and I have
to speak probably thirty forty times throughthe years, both the other business in
this business. But his story isso powerful because he said to the owners
that, well, we don't wantyou to sell it to somebody. We
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may lose our jobs or maybe youknow, just dropped, you know.
And he said, they said,well, you can buy it if you
want us two million dollars to meand doll Well, let me see if
we can raise the money among ourselves. And so there's like five guys that
get together and they come up witha one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
They can come up with, oh, well that's not quite two million dollars.
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And so what ends up happening isthat I'm realizing this light is too
bright on me instant right here,and just trying to turn it over to
the side of little maybe it'll bebetter. But anyway, what ends up
happening is that he ends up goingto twenty two banks so trying to get
along, okay, and turned downeveryone except the last one, okay.
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But in the meantime, the business. The corporation sells the business somebody else,
who then gives it back to hittingthem and said, we don't want
it anyway. So he's still tryingto buy the business. But the Bank
of America during Jimmy Carter days,I don't know if you know things about
that, but twenty two percent interestsokay, on a loan of two million
dollars. He got the loan Bankof American in San Francisco at the time
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before they merged and became national andall that kind of stuff like they are.
But anyway, he comes back tothe guys there at the business and
says, okay, guys, wegot the money to stay alive, but
we have thirty thousand dollars of interestto pay every week. So we got
to make money fast quick and dowell. Okay. So every one of
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you guys is a stockholder. Okay. You all got a share stock in
this company, okay. And thensecond of all, you're going to get
percentage of how well we do.We're gonna have meetings in every department every
week, you know, and we'regonna be doing this and that and these
other principles, biblical principles. Helays down. Get what he doesn't build
a company of owners. These guysthey had, they taught them all how
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to read financial statements, so theyall became a team together on the same
page. That company's drawn from atthat point in time was probably a five
or ten million dollars company, soat eighty to fifty and now it's a
three hundred million dollar company with liketwenty different companies underneath it. And Jack
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and his team go out and teachpeople still how to run a business from
this basis. Okay, the greatgame of business, and it's it's an
incredibly good concept, but it's biblicalagain, it's the way God would have
us to do. It doesn't meanyou have everybody's voting on everything, but
it does mean that you're you're gettingpeople to participate in a sense of ownership.
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The more you can do then inthe company, the more you'll have
a stronger business. These are justsome of the things that I've talked that
we talked about in the book.But good so again, you guys,
I'm not sure that I mentioned itin this one. I know I mentioned
it in the last one. Allof John's books are available on his website.
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The first one the True Wealth bythe book is that was that was
the one that was the Ten Commandmentsin Business, Right, and then I've
had you changed the name so thatone's available and all of the other books
that John has written, and weare eagerly waiting for that fifth book that
that is going to When when isthat going to be ready? Do you
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know? Well, I think bythe end of this month we'll have it
ready in terms of get it tothe printer because it'll be more graphics than
be added and stuff like that.Sure. Sure, So so you guys
can go to again ask why iscouncil dot com to check out everything that
John has over there and check outthat boot camp that's coming up October fifth
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there in Jacksonville. Right, doyou have any hotels or anything set up
blocks of rooms that if people arecoming from out of town, knowing the
fis, we'll get in a room. But that's what they were like,
Okay, there's plenty of rooms available. Of course, you know we're in
a first state for that matter.You know, building is booming around here,
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so sure a lot of people liketo stay in the venue or close
anyway where you're going to have itat least eight hundred hotel rooms right within
a mile of us here, soawesome. The CAFs facilities facility, and
we're beating in the Salem Center,which is a radio network that was found
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in many years and going by aguy in stew Everson, and we had
speak many times and he's the onethat asked me to do radio shows.
He just passed away a few weeksago, unfortunately. But they have one
hundred and forty radio stations around thecountry, but their headquarters is here,
and Eric with Texas is one ofthe big people on that network. And
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but it's fund it's exciting keeping Ohthat's good, awesome. Well, you
guys, thank you so much forjoining watching the show. We appreciate that.
Make sure that you share it outthere, get the message out there,
because ask Wise console could be theanswer to some of the problems that
you or someone you know might havein business. So go ahead and check
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John and all of his leadership teamand everything out over there as Wise Council
dot com. And of course Iwill have the link in the show notes.
So John, thank you again forcoming on for Centered Business. I
appreciate you. I appreciate your Thankyou so much. There's an honor to
have you, honor to be interviewed. Thank you, thank you, thank
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you, pless you too, Thankyou so much. Okay, until the
next time, Dave, Spirit Centeredpeace out. All Right, Hey there,
SCB peeps. I want to givea huge shout out and deep appreciation
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