May 7, 2025 • 36 mins
BEST OF 164: Pt. 1 When “Churchianity” Doesn’t Cut It | Darby Slaton on Spirit-Centered Business™
When God needs a connection made, He figures out how to get it done! Darby and I are cut from the same cloth and “randomly” met each other on a podcast directory. It was such a fun blessing to meet him and we had a conversation that lasted for 3 episodes! Enjoy part one.
BIO:Darby Slaton is a speaker, teacher and coach, and is raising prophetic transformational leaders through the power of the prophetic, mind renewal, and for world-changing impact. He has spoken in churches, non-profit organizations, schools, and businesses for over ten years. His topics range from the finished work of the cross to hearing the voice of God, to finding your purpose, and rewriting your story. Darby has coached many successful marketplace leaders in leadership skills including: brave communication, conflict resolution, and finding your sweet spot of living out of your mission. He established the Convergence School of The Prophets in 2023.
Darby is also an artist whose passion for art can be seen online with his "Darby's Doodles." In addition, he does art commissions and sells prints of his work. You can check out his work at the link below.
HIGHLIGHTS:
- Gaga for Jesus
- Walking away from Jesus
- Kingdom realm, Courts of Heaven & Sonship
- Miracles, signs and wonders even when angry at GodExperiencing Jesus outside the church
- Handwriting interpretation by faith Teaching hair cutting and seeing miracles
- Graham Cooke training
- power and authority without religion
- Grandmother was a witch! (A prophet with no outlet in the church)
- Experienced demonic entities
- Giving destiny words to New Agers
- Having real conversations, not the cleaned up version
- Spiritual laws work, no matter your belief system
- Phenomenology: experiencing the mystic
Maturing into the meat of God’s word
Bill Johnson Quotes:
“I have to believe more in God’s ability to keep me than the devil’s ability to steal me away.”
“We have more faith in the devil’s ability to deceive us than God’s ability to protect us.”
LINK for DARBY:
Connect with Darby: https://www.darbyslaton.com/
LINKS for BRALYNN:
- Get Bralynn’s Book! Discover Your Business Destiny: Co-Creating, Stewarding and Standing to Manifest God’s Divine Plan
http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com/book
– Coaching for Business and Breakthrough Encounters: http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com
Copyright 2025 - Bralynn Newby Int'l, LLC. All rights reserved.
When God needs a connection made, He figures out how to get it done! Darby and I are cut from the same cloth and “randomly” met each other on a podcast directory. It was such a fun blessing to meet him and we had a conversation that lasted for 3 episodes! Enjoy part one.
BIO:Darby Slaton is a speaker, teacher and coach, and is raising prophetic transformational leaders through the power of the prophetic, mind renewal, and for world-changing impact. He has spoken in churches, non-profit organizations, schools, and businesses for over ten years. His topics range from the finished work of the cross to hearing the voice of God, to finding your purpose, and rewriting your story. Darby has coached many successful marketplace leaders in leadership skills including: brave communication, conflict resolution, and finding your sweet spot of living out of your mission. He established the Convergence School of The Prophets in 2023.
Darby is also an artist whose passion for art can be seen online with his "Darby's Doodles." In addition, he does art commissions and sells prints of his work. You can check out his work at the link below.
HIGHLIGHTS:
- Gaga for Jesus
- Walking away from Jesus
- Kingdom realm, Courts of Heaven & Sonship
- Miracles, signs and wonders even when angry at GodExperiencing Jesus outside the church
- Handwriting interpretation by faith Teaching hair cutting and seeing miracles
- Graham Cooke training
- power and authority without religion
- Grandmother was a witch! (A prophet with no outlet in the church)
- Experienced demonic entities
- Giving destiny words to New Agers
- Having real conversations, not the cleaned up version
- Spiritual laws work, no matter your belief system
- Phenomenology: experiencing the mystic
Maturing into the meat of God’s word
Bill Johnson Quotes:
“I have to believe more in God’s ability to keep me than the devil’s ability to steal me away.”
“We have more faith in the devil’s ability to deceive us than God’s ability to protect us.”
LINK for DARBY:
Connect with Darby: https://www.darbyslaton.com/
LINKS for BRALYNN:
- Get Bralynn’s Book! Discover Your Business Destiny: Co-Creating, Stewarding and Standing to Manifest God’s Divine Plan
http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com/book
– Coaching for Business and Breakthrough Encounters: http://SpiritCenteredBusiness.com
Copyright 2025 - Bralynn Newby Int'l, LLC. All rights reserved.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business podcast. Well, we blend
the spiritual with the practical for supernatural results. Now here's
your host, Berlynn Nuby.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello there, world changers, Welcome to Spirit Centered Business. I'm
here with a brand new guests. I'm so excited to
have a conversation with him. Welcome, Darby Slayton to the show. Awesome. Well,
I just have a little bit of housekeeping because I
am so excited that my book is finally out. And
you guys that you've been listening a long time, you
(00:39):
know that this book has been a birthing process. So
let me just share my screen really quick, show you
all and what it looks like and tell you where
you can get it. There it is Discover your Business
Destiny Darby? Is that showing up?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It is all right? Very good, awesome, creating, stewarding and
standing to manifest God's divine plan. And we go through
how to receive and read the Destiny Scroll for your business,
the reasons, and how to access the spirit realm. We
(01:17):
talk about, you know, using your imagination. We talk about
the declaration of trade to establish your business in the
heavenly realms. And that's all in the training piece, and
then the whole second part of the book is Prayers
and Declarations that shake the world, because it really helps
you get into that it is finished frequency and standing
(01:38):
on the promise of God that this destiny is for you.
All right, so you can get that over on Spirit
centered business dot com. Just check out the book link
over there. All right, Darby, I'm coming on back over
to you. There we go. So, yeah, welcome to the show.
We've had a little bit of interesting conversation. But Darby,
(02:00):
you guys will notice he's like me. We actually do
some of the same stuff, talk some of the same language.
So that's really gonna be a good conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Welcome Darby, thank you so much. I'm so happy I
found you. I've been looking for my tribe all over
the place.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Awesome. Well, welcome to the Spirit Centered Business Dribe. Yeah,
we're happy to have you. Oh my gosh. So you
have been out traveling speaking for ten years. You've got
a ministry business business tree, right, yes, yeah, So we
(02:40):
will get into exactly what you're doing in part two,
but in part one, i'd love for people to learn
your story because some of my audience are still you know,
trying to figure out how to bridge between church and
kingdom and stepping into kingdom and how to weave their
spiritual their faith, walk in into their business and coming
(03:02):
into that alignment, coming into their true identity, and all
of that kind of stuff. So why don't you share
your journey of how you made that happen? Yeah, that
happen for you, let's put it back.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's interesting. Well, first of all, I'm
grateful to be here, and I just I hope that
this might sharing my story encourages you guys in your journey,
because I feel like I'm kind of a slow learner
at times. I know, we have to watch what we say,
but there's kind of a little bit of that there,
you know. And so I'm hoping that in some ways
(03:35):
what I'm sharing with you may give some insight into
where you're at and maybe maybe kind of curve your
time on this path and speed up the process. So, yeah,
basically it all started for me. I grew up in
the church. I grew up. This is a mouthful. It's
an independent fundamental Baptist and if anyone knows what that is,
(03:59):
it is the most strict Baptist church and I want
you to know I'm very grateful for for a lot
of people and I that led me to Jesus. But
I grew up in a church where girls didn't wear
pants and guys never had their hair touching their their collar,
and so it was very yes, it was very strict.
(04:22):
But I came and to Jesus at a young age.
And I remember lianographs, remember flanographs back in the day,
I had a planograph. Okay, maybe not so.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Back in the yes, right, yeah, So they have like
a little.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, they have a little felt character. And it's the
story that got me was a story of Gideon and
and and how he put his fleece out, and I thought,
as a five year old, I was like, I want
to talk to God that way. And that was that
was the first I remember that at five years old.
And so I gave my life to Jesus that day
(04:59):
and got baptized at the age of seven, and did
what every good Baptist would do. I'd go out and
hand out tracks, I'd go door knocking, even though as
a shy, quiet kid, but I had a real heart
for the Lord very very early on. I'd love, just
love Jesus and as time would go on, we you know,
(05:19):
you kind of realize that the grace that you came
in on, there's there's all these rules and these things
that you have, these these hoops you need to jump through,
you know. And so I had to jump through all
these hoops in order to have God's favor, in order
to to make God please with me. And it was
more about trying to attain something. And after a while
(05:41):
you kind of pick up on the lens of legalism.
I quite often I say to people, like the lens
that I was given in that church. It was almost
like I had fractured. I had cracks in my glasses.
Now that grace has been fractured, and now I'm looking
through the world in a different way, and my heart
for the Lord really started to I started to get
(06:04):
colder in my faith than it was because I was
looking at the church. I was seeing some things that
were happening in the church that I didn't understand. I mean, granted,
I was very different in the sense of seven years old.
I was seven years old and wanted to go on
visitation with the pastors because I had such a strong
desire to let people know who Jesus was and I
(06:24):
just remember kind of feeling like an odd ball, you know,
and kind of feeling like, who is this kid?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And even at seven years old, I had enough understanding
of how that there was something odd and I could
feel it. As time would go on, I found myself
kind of backing away from the church. But as a kid,
I struggled with this call we would say in the
Baptist Church a call, and this call to ministry and
(06:51):
my artwork. So I'm an artist and I love doing art.
And I was way into Disney back in the day
and before before it got too crazy. But yeah, so
I got into Disney, and I wrestled with both of
these things throughout my whole life. And uh yeah, I mean,
do you would just want me to go all the
way through, like.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I know, yeah, to tell whatever salient points would exactly
to see those those pivotal moments where you made decisions.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
One hundred percent one hundred percent. So uh so, basically
I got to a place where I end up going
to Bible College. Now, in the Bible college I went to,
I thought, Okay, now I'm doing God's work. Uh, you know,
went to school for youth ministry, went to a like
almost like a Bible Fellowship kind of college, which was actually,
(07:46):
in the eyes of my church liberal because they use
the NIV, the not inspired version, you know, because we
were KJV only. Oh God, and don't listen. I love
King Jimmy, you know, but I'm telling you, like and yeah,
no he did, he did. But I love the sound
of you know, and just and the how art thou?
(08:08):
You know? Oh Lord? Anyway, so yeah, I just yeah.
So so I went to Bible College, end up dropping
out of Bible College because they wanted to kick me
out for not attending church. I don't want to go
to church anymore. And everything kind of just turned the
opposite direction. I started going every direction except for towards God.
(08:30):
I walked away. I ran away, and I remember a
moment when I was so disappointed and discouraged and not
to offend anyone, but I remember telling God to I
told him off, and I remember giving him two fingers
and literally just I remember the moment that happened, and
I started to actually temporarily say I was an atheist,
(08:54):
and I was just like, I'm done with this religion.
It doesn't work for me, you know. I read the
Bible I'm around crew Christians. Nothing that's said in the
Word is even in my life, and this has got
to be a fairy tale some sort. I don't want
this anymore. And for about six months, for about six months,
I was an atheist. I literally would say I was
(09:14):
an atheist, and I just couldn't. I couldn't intellectually be
honest by looking at creation and saying it just happened.
So I had to start that there was some kind
of power there. So I basically started right from the
ground up what a lot of people call deconstruction. It
was kind of that way, but it actually led me
to a pure version of who Jesus really is, didn't
(09:37):
lend me away from him. So I went through that
time of deconstruction. But during that time period, I had
so many miracles in my life that were happening when
I was not living my life for Jesus. I mean
stuff that I never grew up with. I had some
experience when I was younger that was very supernatural. Even
(09:57):
as a teenager. I dealt with demonic entity, He's coming
into my room. I dealt with Oh yeah, I dealt
with some really dark stuff and a lot of that
tied in with My grandfather was a Baptist preacher and
my grandmother was a witch, and I didn't know that.
I didn't know any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh my gosh, we might have to get into that story.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah. So all that to say, yeah, all that to
say is basically, you know, I started dealing with depression, mixing,
playing around with drugs. I started, you know, drinking a ton.
My whole life was turned upside down. And uh, in Romans,
it actually talks about this and this is this really
kind of sums it up. It was the kindness of
(10:38):
God that got my attention. It was the kindness of
God that brought me to repentance. And on April sixth,
two thousand and three, after about six months of saying, God,
I want you to show yourself to me. I want
to know who you really are, like, whoever this God is,
I like you, I'm experiencing you. I want to know
that God that's good to me when I'm I'm a jerk,
(10:59):
like I don't even deserve your goodness. And I started thinking, well,
maybe this is Jesus. Maybe I just had been lied
to about the way of who Jesus was. And so
I remember praying I'm like, I don't care if you're God.
I don't care if you're Alla, Buddha, Shiva, the spaghetti
monster in the sky. I don't care who you are
(11:20):
to show yourself to me. For about six months, I
started reading the Bible a little bit here and there,
and I basically on the front step of my parents'
house a twenty six years old, after losing my car,
my girlfriend, my business was stolen out from under me.
I'm twenty six years old, living back at my parents' house,
(11:41):
and I sat out on April six, two thousand and three,
out in front of the house, and I said, God,
we got to have a talk. You have been more
good to me than bad. All these bad things that
happened to me. I don't understand. But somehow you got
the rap and it wasn't you. I realize that it's
a mystery to me. I don't completely understand it. I said,
(12:02):
but here's the thing. I know, God, You're good. And
in that moment, I felt cocooned in the presence of God.
I literally everything that the lenses. Everything looked brand new.
Everything looked brand new, and I remember feeling light and
you got understand like as a Baptist and even in
Bible College. Everything that happened in Toronto, I would make
(12:26):
fun of it. I would go after it. I was
the kind of guy that would fight you for saying
that you believe in these things. And here I am.
I'm experiencing the Kingdom of God. I'm experiencing being filled
with the Holy Spirit, which I had no vernacular for
and didn't believe in any of this stuff, and here
I am. The first day I could hear God's voice,
(12:46):
it was like I've always heard his voice, but I
recognized it and he said to me that day, he says,
I have been speaking to you. And he started bringing
me all throughout my history and all the times he
spoke to me and gave me a head up and
miracles that happened. I thought it was just my spidey
sense and it was just prophetic hearing the voice of God.
(13:07):
I mean, there's so many crazy stories, but basically it
all came down to this point. Now. I'd like to
say everything was a straight path from there. It wasn't.
I had about three years of ministry, and when you
are young and you were zealous for the Lord, and
there's ministries and churches and there's needs. They try to
give you as many opportunities as you can. Opportunities. Yeah, yeah.
(13:31):
I didn't know how to say no exactly opportunities, and
I didn't have any boundaries, so I just did whatever
did men's ministry, children's ministry, ministry, and ministry, everything ministry,
you know. And I started to and I struggled with
my mind. I struggled with even though I didn't have
depression anymore like I did, I wasn't suicidal anymore. I
still had a mind to get renewed, and that took
(13:53):
some time. I still had some mixture of law and grace.
I didn't understand all that. I didn't understand the full gospel.
I didn't understand the finishing work of the Cross, even
though I was experiencing God towards me in that way.
So I had about five years I burned out. I'm
not going to go into that story. There's so much there.
I pretty much left the church that I was in.
(14:13):
I disappeared, wrote letters to the leadership and disappeared, went
to Mexico and thought I was going to be gone.
And that's a whole other story. But basically I had
about five years of being checked out, and during that
those five years, this story is actually almost finished. During
those five years, I actually became a hairstylist, which is
kind of interesting because one of the struggles I had
(14:37):
was as a well Bible college is like, well, I'm
not going in that direction, even after I got billed
the Holy Spirit, because my college wouldn't know what to
do with me, you know, like you know, and so
so I was like, I need a trade of some sort.
And I remember at that time, a couple of years
prior to this, as I had a mentor. He was
amazing mentor, but he told me basically that the idea
(15:00):
of me having a business and being in the marketplace
was actually a distraction away from revival. And so I
saw these miracles, signs and wonders everywhere I went by.
My bank account looked like horrible. It just I'm like,
I can't even I can't budget my life, I can't
make my life work. But over here the miracles flowed.
And so I struggled with that, and I'm like, well,
(15:23):
and I wasn't angry at God this time. I was
a little discouraged in the church, but I still have
a heart for the church, and I got to a
place where I ended up going to the Bible or
I ended up going to hair school, and I saw miracles.
I wasn't even I just felt so bad. I felt guilt,
condemnation and shame, and I'm like, man, all these stories,
I mean, people were, you know, and it wasn't It
(15:46):
wasn't so much. I was worried about my reputation the
way some people do. But it just felt bad because
I was like, man, like you know, to some people,
I was. I was. I was inspiring to them. And
it wasn't like I wasn't big for my bridges. I had.
God kept me humble, trust me, and just by experiencing him,
there's no way I could be big for my breches.
And eventually what happened was I started God start teaching
(16:10):
me how to minister to people outside the church, and
he started teaching me that I can prophesy when I
want to prophesy. I never knew that. I didn't know that.
I just thought it just happened. And so you know,
God taught me this very unconventional thing that I did
with all my students. And I was not in a
Christian cosmetology school, by the way, and I went through school,
(16:31):
did very well in the school, end up working in
the salon for a couple of years, and then came
back and I said, I want to become a teacher,
went for my teacher's license, ended up getting hired by
the company that I that I went to school for,
and then became a teacher. And it was that was
when God changed me. He started teaching me. He's like,
this is how God speaks to me. He's like, hey, Darby,
(16:53):
you know how you know how you do an interpretation
of handwriting? You know how, like you were studying that
years ago. I was like, yeah. He said, I want
you to use that, okay, And what you're gonna do
and he told me played by play. He says, you're
gonna go on the white board. You're gonna have people
write their name on the white board. You're going to
read their signature, and then I'm going to tell you
the rest. And so I had my student go up
(17:13):
there my first time, wrote their name on the board
and I said I could do you know. I said,
I'm gonna interpret this for you, and they're like really,
I said yeah, And I had no idea, Like I
really didn't know what I was gonna do. I was
just stepping out in faith and God gave me the word.
And this girl's crying in front of everyone, and she's like,
mister S, my last name is Slaton, mister S, are
(17:35):
you a psychic or something? I said something much better
than that. I said, I'll talk to you after school.
And so anyway, that was my experience. You know, I
saw miracle signs on wonders and even though I was
kind of still wrestling with my life, eventually I came
on to a guy named Graham Cook and he talked
(17:55):
about brilliant thinking and it changed my life. I drove
the California I went to the school, and then that
was where my heart was, like, I need to teach
people how to walk in the supernatural. I need to
teach people how to hear the voice of God. I
need to help people find their mission. I need to
teach people how to overcome adversity and how to thrive
in the middle of the fire. And so I ended
(18:17):
up coming back to school, or went to school, graduated school,
and then in twenty thirteen I started I just spoke
at one place with an old prophet named Josh John
Mark Poole and everything triggered from there, and I by
word of mouth. I've been speaking for ten years, doing
workshops when webinars, I even got into coaching, which I
(18:40):
really love coaching because anyway, so that's kind of my story.
You know, that's kind of a lot, but that's what
I got.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay, Well, I need to go back around, just because
some of the work that I do with clients is
the inner healing work and breaking free from from curses
and sure bloodline and things that are over your business,
you know, spiritual leans, those kinds of things. And when
(19:07):
you said you have a grandma who was a witch
and you were seeing demonic things in your bedroom, tell
us more about that. And then I want to I
want to kind of ask you questions about how you
you know, were fled from breakout.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's a good question. So a
lot of the experiences I had was, uh, it was
completely out of fear. I I I was tormented with
this since I was twelve my grandmother. At that time,
we lived outside of Philadelphia, and my grandmother drove from
New Jersey at two o'clock in the morning and showed
(19:45):
up at our house. Never did that ever, and we
hear a bang on the door, and I wake up.
My dad wakes up. My file behind my dad, and
my grandmother's there, and her hair's all frizzed out, and
her eyes are like wide and and and she's an days.
And so my dad takes her into the living room
and basically says, mom, what's going on? And my dad says,
(20:07):
go upstairs. And I did what every kid would do.
I sat on the stairs and listened, you know. And
so my grandmother said she did an incantation and she
was being chased by spirits the whole way from New
Jersey to our home, and only felt safe sitting at
sleeping at the foot of my parents' bed. And so
from that moment forward, I experienced demonic entities. And I
(20:29):
talked to my Baptist pastors about it and say, what
am I going to do? Well fast forward, you know,
during the times of like drug use and stuff, that
stuff was like crazy to me. I actually stopped smoking
pot back in the day, not because it was the
right thing to do, but because I was seeing so much.
When I got filled with the Holy Spirit, that's when
(20:51):
things start to shift. But it still wasn't one hundred
percent like I walked in a lot of deliverance. I
didn't even know what deliverance was. I didn't know what
the prophetic was. I didn't know, and I had no
no I had no language for it. You know, people say, well,
are you charismatic? I said, nope. Are you pentecostal? Nope?
I said, I was filled with the Holy Spirit in
the front step of my parents' house. You know, like
(21:11):
I didn't really and I'm not not against those things.
I'm just saying, you know, that's that's that was my
my walk. So basically what happened was when I first
got built with the Holy Spirit, I would go into
restaurants and people will start manifesting the restaurant. I mean,
I mean it was like a movie. I might see
like three and four people from different seats and they
were just snarling at me. And I'm literally I'm not
(21:35):
even exaggerating, I mean, just like the movies, just like
you're seeing someone and they were like looking back and
I'm like, what in the world. And at that time,
I'd say, man, I feel like I just walked into
the matrix or something like it's it's a brand. So
basically what happened was I moved in deliverance without even
getting training deliverance. I just seed so many people, and
(21:55):
at that time in deliverance it took a long time
sometimes and eventually when I went to Graham Cooks School,
everything shifted. When I started to understand the finished work
of the Cross. I started to understand the you know,
you know what grace is, and the Kingdom of God
and power and authority without all that religion, legalism. All
(22:18):
of a sudden, it was like the gig was up.
The enemy rarely ever has ever come to me in
that way since then. Now I could send them from Afar,
but I had someone actually take me through when I
went to Graham cook School, I had someone take me
through like almost like deliverance slash soso for days. They
did a couple of days, and I've had people pray
(22:39):
for me since, and I don't really have any of
those issues anymore. It was so bad that I would
have them come in my dreams and ask me if
I was a if I would be a conduit like
my grandmother, and I had no idea what. I didn't
even know what that was. I had to look it
up in the dictionary. I didn't even know what conduit
and I looked at the dictionary, so everything shifted after
(23:00):
after I started getting some understanding.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh my gosh. So I'm just like, I've got so
many questions. So did your mind? Did your grandma ever
renounce it and get sick?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So my grandmother and my grand my grandfather, my grandmother
left my grandfather for his brother. It was pretty messed up.
They're from westman Or, they're from Louisiana, and it's so interesting.
My dad'side of the family are they're they're, they're, they're
they're almost like Cajun's and it's they have a crazy life.
So my grandmother remarried like three or four times, and
(23:35):
she ended up coming back eventually back to my grandfather
after he lost his second wife, and she lived with him,
and so she was she was she I don't think
she ever did. I did ask the Lord, why in
the world did my grandmother go in that direction? Like
what happened? And he says, well, she was a prophet
and she had no outlet and the church she was in.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I know, words start teaching me about that. He says,
there's no outlet for her. So she only took what
she can find around her. And my grandmother would tell me.
She told my mom when I was pregnant, when she
was pregnant with me, and it's it's interesting when that
gift is restored, like to me, like it's part of
the part of the family. That's one of the things
(24:19):
I know, Like I know, I've known people when they're pregnant,
when they didn't even know they were pregnant, just like
my grandma. But it's the redemptive side. Now I don't know.
I don't know what happened with my grandmother. I asked
the Lord about this, to be honest with you, and
I felt like the Lord said, Grandmam made a decision
to recant everything and give her life to me. And
that's that's what I believe I heard from Papa.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Oh wow, but isn't that true or just like, oh
my gosh, that just feels rings so true that they're
a prophet. But because the church doesn't acknowledge or teach
anything about it, you're like, Okay, well, new Age, does
you know exactly does Let's go.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Back one hundred percent. And that's why, like I don't
I honestly, I'd rather deal with someone that's new age
or spiritual than an atheist. To be honest with you,
I think that atheists don't even exist. They don't. You don't.
They could say that they exist, But in the foxholes
you hear so many stories of people going through near
death experiences, going through terror, terrible situations. They're calling out
(25:23):
to God. So I'd rather deal with someone as spiritual.
In fact, I don't want to get off on a
sidetrack here. I have been invited by new agers to
come to their meetings. They say, come and give us
destiny words, and I've seen I've actually going in. I
had no idea what I was doing. I really didn't.
I went there, and I think I did more by
accident than on purpose. And yeah, yeah, exactly. And I
(25:49):
think that's the thing. People put so much pressure on ourselves,
like we got to get this right. One of the
things that I value is I listened to some ministers.
I'm like, it doesn't sound like they have any problems.
It sounds so like PG, like I got crazy rate
and our stuff going on, Like how in the world
am I just am? I just like not getting this.
(26:10):
And I realized that sometimes people don't share their process
and I have different full. I have different beliefs about that,
but that's the reason why I'd rather tell people the
messy story not the cleaned up, everything's perfect story, because
I think sometimes we sell people a bill of goods
and we don't have real conversations with people, you know,
(26:31):
So if someone's new Age, great, wonderful, let's talk well from.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, I was just going
to say from my experience the people. When I first
started a retooling myself and I came out of corporate
as an architect, and I decided that I wanted to
build people instead of building buildings. I retooled in the
coaching space and this would have been eleven twelve timeframe. Yeah,
(26:59):
and a lot of those people in those places were
new Age, Yes. And what I discovered was they were
there because they had church woundings.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
One hundred percent. It's so interesting because that's the same
thing I come across every single time. It's it's and
and and what. That messed me up for a while
because some of the people that were excelling in that
coaching space were new agers and that kind of started
getting me to think about, like, well, why am I
not inviting people into the process. Why does it have
to be all you have to be a Christian to
(27:32):
join what I'm doing. What does it look like to
disciple the nations? I mean Jesus discipled non believers. You
think about that, right, you know? Would they didn't come
into Christ until after the resurrection?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Right? And that's exactly why I called my this spirit
centered business because I didn't want to be all Christianese
and everything, because I don't want to turn anybody away
who's seeking and who who maybe they're experiencing the super
natural and they don't understand, like I don't have a
grid for this, you know, So I want them to
(28:06):
feel comfortable enough to you know that we can have
the conversation and I can and I can say, you know,
religion has has hurt you, and I'm sorry about that.
And you know on behalf of every thing that happened
in church, you know, you don't need to hang your
future on that past that was false, right?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah? Yeah, So, oh my gosh, yeah, it's it's so
amazing and it's interesting. Like I've had some my even
like me coming back to the Lord. I wasn't one
hundred percent before it even happened. I was reading like
Norman Vincent Peale back in the day.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh sure so, and it was and I was like, wow,
like this is the stuff people aren't talking about in
the church. And then I wrestled for a long time
because I would see that these tools that they were
using and the spiritual laws that they understood were working.
But I'm like, okay, hey, I had to wrestle through
all this, and uh, it's interesting. I've I've come to
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a lot of conclusions that not everybody would be comfortable with.
But I believe that God's redeemed everything.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
And I think anyone that's experiencing supernatural experiences there's laws,
just like there's laws of nature, and you can't help
but bump into those things like it's just it's just
because someone explains it differently. They might say the source
is different, but if they they can. Sometimes the new
Agers can explain spiritual realities better than Christians.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
And yes, I agree, And that.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Sounds pretty crazy, Like I was looking at this word
and some of this comes from like the old mystics,
the Christian mystics that I was like, why is it
sounds so different versus the preaching I've listened to. Well,
people are talking about this word. Let's say, if I
say it right, the feminology p h E n O
m O N l l O g Y. The one
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things that people in the New Age can explain is
the experience of the thing. And I think that the
difference is is we're a lot of the Christian Now
now we'll say the mystics have done that. There's actually
a lot of things that the Christian mystics from back
in the day would talk about way before New Age
was a big, big thing. So, yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is so good, Darby. I'm so glad you mentioned that.
That's gonna that that's that's exactly what we were really
struggling with. This would have been in like fourteen fifteen
when I was I was starting to come with spirit
centered business and we were talking about a law of attraction,
(30:45):
but not we didn't say right in church.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, but the.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
The you know, the Institute of Heart Math, when they're
talking about how are the our bio field the mortgage
field around us, and how the strength of our emotions
really attracts things in that store. That's all how God
created us by frequency and energy and created the universe
to work, and when he spoke that was that was
(31:16):
a frequency and brooding, the Holy Spirit brood and that's
a frequency, and the church was having nothing to do
with it.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's so interesting. It's so interesting because I went to
Graham Cooks School. One of my teachers. Now Graham actually
was transitioning out of the church at the time and
going somewhere else, moving with his wife. But one of
my teachers that talked about sound I've never heard was
Dan McCollum. Oh yeah, yeah, So Dana was one of
my teachers. I used to cut his kid's hair when
(31:44):
I would go there, I was doing the hair, you know,
and so but when he would talk, I was like,
oh my gosh, like yeah, quantum physics, Yeah, it makes sense,
Like why aren't people talking about this? And then I
found a couple people talking about it. And I've heard
some you know, justin Abraham talk about some stuff and
you know, and it just it's it's coming out more
(32:06):
and more. It's I think it's impossible not to like,
you know, So it's it's so awesome that you that
this path, like what you're talking about is we have
a very similar experience. We really do. Like it's like
almost kind of like she's been reading my journal.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Well, I've actually been writing the book because a lot
of this is in that book.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Wow. Yeah. And that's the other thing is people are listening. Yeah, exactly.
It's funny because those who are listening here, like I
like literally some of the what she's what what what
she was talking about to me was like things that
I was writing down, Like the Lord showed me a
little bit of you know, it's it's just interesting, it's
it's it's obviously that God is trying to bring a
(32:51):
revelation in the world because I believe this is Roman's
chapter eight. This is the this is this is creation
groaning for the revealing of mature sons and daughters of God.
And that maturity is not just drinking milk, but going
into the meat. And I think that's what's happening. And
at first people may reject that meat, but here's the thing.
(33:13):
Look at the fruits of what it's producing. Look at
the fruits of the work that you're doing. You know,
there's fruit there, you know, And so when you know,
I honestly I tell people when I still sometimes go
to churches that are denominational, I get invited into places
it's crazy, like I don't know, like you know, I'm
you know, I'll go to a church and I'm like, okay,
(33:33):
like this is my story. Here's some scriptures. But I
wasn't looking for this, you know, and so you know,
maybe you two here listening and you're like, I'm trying
to work through this myself, and it's okay, you're a
lot of question things. I heard a quote once from
from Bethel said something along It was Bill Johnson says this,
(33:57):
This really helped me get through this season. This one
little raise. I have to believe in God's ability to
keep me than a devil's ability is steal me away.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's really good. Yeah, I've heard it it
phrased a different way too, that we have more faith
in the devil being able to deceive us than God
being able to protect us.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But it's the same.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, Bill Johnson's amazing. Yeah, well, we need to land
this plane for part one, but let's continue the conversation
in part two because I want to hear more and
I'm sure the audience does too. All right, audience, this
has been wonderful. Please give me a comment over wherever
you're watching or listening to this I so appreciate you liking, subscribing, sharing,
(34:44):
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Business is putting out to the world and what Darby
has brought to the table. It's just been so so hot.
Love it, love it, love it. Thank you Darby. All Right,
(35:04):
until next time, stay spirit centered. Peace out. Hey there,
SCB peeps.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
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Peace Out.
Welcome to the Spirit Centered Business podcast. Well, we blend
the spiritual with the practical for supernatural results. Now here's
your host, Berlynn Nuby.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hello there, world changers, Welcome to Spirit Centered Business. I'm
here with a brand new guests. I'm so excited to
have a conversation with him. Welcome, Darby Slayton to the show. Awesome. Well,
I just have a little bit of housekeeping because I
am so excited that my book is finally out. And
you guys that you've been listening a long time, you
(00:39):
know that this book has been a birthing process. So
let me just share my screen really quick, show you
all and what it looks like and tell you where
you can get it. There it is Discover your Business
Destiny Darby? Is that showing up?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
It is all right? Very good, awesome, creating, stewarding and
standing to manifest God's divine plan. And we go through
how to receive and read the Destiny Scroll for your business,
the reasons, and how to access the spirit realm. We
(01:17):
talk about, you know, using your imagination. We talk about
the declaration of trade to establish your business in the
heavenly realms. And that's all in the training piece, and
then the whole second part of the book is Prayers
and Declarations that shake the world, because it really helps
you get into that it is finished frequency and standing
(01:38):
on the promise of God that this destiny is for you.
All right, so you can get that over on Spirit
centered business dot com. Just check out the book link
over there. All right, Darby, I'm coming on back over
to you. There we go. So, yeah, welcome to the show.
We've had a little bit of interesting conversation. But Darby,
(02:00):
you guys will notice he's like me. We actually do
some of the same stuff, talk some of the same language.
So that's really gonna be a good conversation.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Welcome Darby, thank you so much. I'm so happy I
found you. I've been looking for my tribe all over
the place.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Awesome. Well, welcome to the Spirit Centered Business Dribe. Yeah,
we're happy to have you. Oh my gosh. So you
have been out traveling speaking for ten years. You've got
a ministry business business tree, right, yes, yeah, So we
(02:40):
will get into exactly what you're doing in part two,
but in part one, i'd love for people to learn
your story because some of my audience are still you know,
trying to figure out how to bridge between church and
kingdom and stepping into kingdom and how to weave their
spiritual their faith, walk in into their business and coming
(03:02):
into that alignment, coming into their true identity, and all
of that kind of stuff. So why don't you share
your journey of how you made that happen? Yeah, that
happen for you, let's put it back.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's interesting. Well, first of all, I'm
grateful to be here, and I just I hope that
this might sharing my story encourages you guys in your journey,
because I feel like I'm kind of a slow learner
at times. I know, we have to watch what we say,
but there's kind of a little bit of that there,
you know. And so I'm hoping that in some ways
(03:35):
what I'm sharing with you may give some insight into
where you're at and maybe maybe kind of curve your
time on this path and speed up the process. So, yeah,
basically it all started for me. I grew up in
the church. I grew up. This is a mouthful. It's
an independent fundamental Baptist and if anyone knows what that is,
(03:59):
it is the most strict Baptist church and I want
you to know I'm very grateful for for a lot
of people and I that led me to Jesus. But
I grew up in a church where girls didn't wear
pants and guys never had their hair touching their their collar,
and so it was very yes, it was very strict.
(04:22):
But I came and to Jesus at a young age.
And I remember lianographs, remember flanographs back in the day,
I had a planograph. Okay, maybe not so.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Back in the yes, right, yeah, So they have like
a little.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, they have a little felt character. And it's the
story that got me was a story of Gideon and
and and how he put his fleece out, and I thought,
as a five year old, I was like, I want
to talk to God that way. And that was that
was the first I remember that at five years old.
And so I gave my life to Jesus that day
(04:59):
and got baptized at the age of seven, and did
what every good Baptist would do. I'd go out and
hand out tracks, I'd go door knocking, even though as
a shy, quiet kid, but I had a real heart
for the Lord very very early on. I'd love, just
love Jesus and as time would go on, we you know,
(05:19):
you kind of realize that the grace that you came
in on, there's there's all these rules and these things
that you have, these these hoops you need to jump through,
you know. And so I had to jump through all
these hoops in order to have God's favor, in order
to to make God please with me. And it was
more about trying to attain something. And after a while
(05:41):
you kind of pick up on the lens of legalism.
I quite often I say to people, like the lens
that I was given in that church. It was almost
like I had fractured. I had cracks in my glasses.
Now that grace has been fractured, and now I'm looking
through the world in a different way, and my heart
for the Lord really started to I started to get
(06:04):
colder in my faith than it was because I was
looking at the church. I was seeing some things that
were happening in the church that I didn't understand. I mean, granted,
I was very different in the sense of seven years old.
I was seven years old and wanted to go on
visitation with the pastors because I had such a strong
desire to let people know who Jesus was and I
(06:24):
just remember kind of feeling like an odd ball, you know,
and kind of feeling like, who is this kid?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You know?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And even at seven years old, I had enough understanding
of how that there was something odd and I could
feel it. As time would go on, I found myself
kind of backing away from the church. But as a kid,
I struggled with this call we would say in the
Baptist Church a call, and this call to ministry and
(06:51):
my artwork. So I'm an artist and I love doing art.
And I was way into Disney back in the day
and before before it got too crazy. But yeah, so
I got into Disney, and I wrestled with both of
these things throughout my whole life. And uh yeah, I mean,
do you would just want me to go all the
way through, like.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I know, yeah, to tell whatever salient points would exactly
to see those those pivotal moments where you made decisions.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
One hundred percent one hundred percent. So uh so, basically
I got to a place where I end up going
to Bible College. Now, in the Bible college I went to,
I thought, Okay, now I'm doing God's work. Uh, you know,
went to school for youth ministry, went to a like
almost like a Bible Fellowship kind of college, which was actually,
(07:46):
in the eyes of my church liberal because they use
the NIV, the not inspired version, you know, because we
were KJV only. Oh God, and don't listen. I love
King Jimmy, you know, but I'm telling you, like and yeah,
no he did, he did. But I love the sound
of you know, and just and the how art thou?
(08:08):
You know? Oh Lord? Anyway, so yeah, I just yeah.
So so I went to Bible College, end up dropping
out of Bible College because they wanted to kick me
out for not attending church. I don't want to go
to church anymore. And everything kind of just turned the
opposite direction. I started going every direction except for towards God.
(08:30):
I walked away. I ran away, and I remember a
moment when I was so disappointed and discouraged and not
to offend anyone, but I remember telling God to I
told him off, and I remember giving him two fingers
and literally just I remember the moment that happened, and
I started to actually temporarily say I was an atheist,
(08:54):
and I was just like, I'm done with this religion.
It doesn't work for me, you know. I read the
Bible I'm around crew Christians. Nothing that's said in the
Word is even in my life, and this has got
to be a fairy tale some sort. I don't want
this anymore. And for about six months, for about six months,
I was an atheist. I literally would say I was
(09:14):
an atheist, and I just couldn't. I couldn't intellectually be
honest by looking at creation and saying it just happened.
So I had to start that there was some kind
of power there. So I basically started right from the
ground up what a lot of people call deconstruction. It
was kind of that way, but it actually led me
to a pure version of who Jesus really is, didn't
(09:37):
lend me away from him. So I went through that
time of deconstruction. But during that time period, I had
so many miracles in my life that were happening when
I was not living my life for Jesus. I mean
stuff that I never grew up with. I had some
experience when I was younger that was very supernatural. Even
(09:57):
as a teenager. I dealt with demonic entity, He's coming
into my room. I dealt with Oh yeah, I dealt
with some really dark stuff and a lot of that
tied in with My grandfather was a Baptist preacher and
my grandmother was a witch, and I didn't know that.
I didn't know any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Oh my gosh, we might have to get into that story.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah. So all that to say, yeah, all that to
say is basically, you know, I started dealing with depression, mixing,
playing around with drugs. I started, you know, drinking a ton.
My whole life was turned upside down. And uh, in Romans,
it actually talks about this and this is this really
kind of sums it up. It was the kindness of
(10:38):
God that got my attention. It was the kindness of
God that brought me to repentance. And on April sixth,
two thousand and three, after about six months of saying, God,
I want you to show yourself to me. I want
to know who you really are, like, whoever this God is,
I like you, I'm experiencing you. I want to know
that God that's good to me when I'm I'm a jerk,
(10:59):
like I don't even deserve your goodness. And I started thinking, well,
maybe this is Jesus. Maybe I just had been lied
to about the way of who Jesus was. And so
I remember praying I'm like, I don't care if you're God.
I don't care if you're Alla, Buddha, Shiva, the spaghetti
monster in the sky. I don't care who you are
(11:20):
to show yourself to me. For about six months, I
started reading the Bible a little bit here and there,
and I basically on the front step of my parents'
house a twenty six years old, after losing my car,
my girlfriend, my business was stolen out from under me.
I'm twenty six years old, living back at my parents' house,
(11:41):
and I sat out on April six, two thousand and three,
out in front of the house, and I said, God,
we got to have a talk. You have been more
good to me than bad. All these bad things that
happened to me. I don't understand. But somehow you got
the rap and it wasn't you. I realize that it's
a mystery to me. I don't completely understand it. I said,
(12:02):
but here's the thing. I know, God, You're good. And
in that moment, I felt cocooned in the presence of God.
I literally everything that the lenses. Everything looked brand new.
Everything looked brand new, and I remember feeling light and
you got understand like as a Baptist and even in
Bible College. Everything that happened in Toronto, I would make
(12:26):
fun of it. I would go after it. I was
the kind of guy that would fight you for saying
that you believe in these things. And here I am.
I'm experiencing the Kingdom of God. I'm experiencing being filled
with the Holy Spirit, which I had no vernacular for
and didn't believe in any of this stuff, and here
I am. The first day I could hear God's voice,
(12:46):
it was like I've always heard his voice, but I
recognized it and he said to me that day, he says,
I have been speaking to you. And he started bringing
me all throughout my history and all the times he
spoke to me and gave me a head up and
miracles that happened. I thought it was just my spidey
sense and it was just prophetic hearing the voice of God.
(13:07):
I mean, there's so many crazy stories, but basically it
all came down to this point. Now. I'd like to
say everything was a straight path from there. It wasn't.
I had about three years of ministry, and when you
are young and you were zealous for the Lord, and
there's ministries and churches and there's needs. They try to
give you as many opportunities as you can. Opportunities. Yeah, yeah.
(13:31):
I didn't know how to say no exactly opportunities, and
I didn't have any boundaries, so I just did whatever
did men's ministry, children's ministry, ministry, and ministry, everything ministry,
you know. And I started to and I struggled with
my mind. I struggled with even though I didn't have
depression anymore like I did, I wasn't suicidal anymore. I
still had a mind to get renewed, and that took
(13:53):
some time. I still had some mixture of law and grace.
I didn't understand all that. I didn't understand the full gospel.
I didn't understand the finishing work of the Cross, even
though I was experiencing God towards me in that way.
So I had about five years I burned out. I'm
not going to go into that story. There's so much there.
I pretty much left the church that I was in.
(14:13):
I disappeared, wrote letters to the leadership and disappeared, went
to Mexico and thought I was going to be gone.
And that's a whole other story. But basically I had
about five years of being checked out, and during that
those five years, this story is actually almost finished. During
those five years, I actually became a hairstylist, which is
kind of interesting because one of the struggles I had
(14:37):
was as a well Bible college is like, well, I'm
not going in that direction, even after I got billed
the Holy Spirit, because my college wouldn't know what to
do with me, you know, like you know, and so
so I was like, I need a trade of some sort.
And I remember at that time, a couple of years
prior to this, as I had a mentor. He was
amazing mentor, but he told me basically that the idea
(15:00):
of me having a business and being in the marketplace
was actually a distraction away from revival. And so I
saw these miracles, signs and wonders everywhere I went by.
My bank account looked like horrible. It just I'm like,
I can't even I can't budget my life, I can't
make my life work. But over here the miracles flowed.
And so I struggled with that, and I'm like, well,
(15:23):
and I wasn't angry at God this time. I was
a little discouraged in the church, but I still have
a heart for the church, and I got to a
place where I ended up going to the Bible or
I ended up going to hair school, and I saw miracles.
I wasn't even I just felt so bad. I felt guilt,
condemnation and shame, and I'm like, man, all these stories,
I mean, people were, you know, and it wasn't It
(15:46):
wasn't so much. I was worried about my reputation the
way some people do. But it just felt bad because
I was like, man, like you know, to some people,
I was. I was. I was inspiring to them. And
it wasn't like I wasn't big for my bridges. I had.
God kept me humble, trust me, and just by experiencing him,
there's no way I could be big for my breches.
And eventually what happened was I started God start teaching
(16:10):
me how to minister to people outside the church, and
he started teaching me that I can prophesy when I
want to prophesy. I never knew that. I didn't know that.
I just thought it just happened. And so you know,
God taught me this very unconventional thing that I did
with all my students. And I was not in a
Christian cosmetology school, by the way, and I went through school,
(16:31):
did very well in the school, end up working in
the salon for a couple of years, and then came
back and I said, I want to become a teacher,
went for my teacher's license, ended up getting hired by
the company that I that I went to school for,
and then became a teacher. And it was that was
when God changed me. He started teaching me. He's like,
this is how God speaks to me. He's like, hey, Darby,
(16:53):
you know how you know how you do an interpretation
of handwriting? You know how, like you were studying that
years ago. I was like, yeah. He said, I want
you to use that, okay, And what you're gonna do
and he told me played by play. He says, you're
gonna go on the white board. You're gonna have people
write their name on the white board. You're going to
read their signature, and then I'm going to tell you
the rest. And so I had my student go up
(17:13):
there my first time, wrote their name on the board
and I said I could do you know. I said,
I'm gonna interpret this for you, and they're like really,
I said yeah, And I had no idea, Like I
really didn't know what I was gonna do. I was
just stepping out in faith and God gave me the word.
And this girl's crying in front of everyone, and she's like,
mister S, my last name is Slaton, mister S, are
(17:35):
you a psychic or something? I said something much better
than that. I said, I'll talk to you after school.
And so anyway, that was my experience. You know, I
saw miracle signs on wonders and even though I was
kind of still wrestling with my life, eventually I came
on to a guy named Graham Cook and he talked
(17:55):
about brilliant thinking and it changed my life. I drove
the California I went to the school, and then that
was where my heart was, like, I need to teach
people how to walk in the supernatural. I need to
teach people how to hear the voice of God. I
need to help people find their mission. I need to
teach people how to overcome adversity and how to thrive
in the middle of the fire. And so I ended
(18:17):
up coming back to school, or went to school, graduated school,
and then in twenty thirteen I started I just spoke
at one place with an old prophet named Josh John
Mark Poole and everything triggered from there, and I by
word of mouth. I've been speaking for ten years, doing
workshops when webinars, I even got into coaching, which I
(18:40):
really love coaching because anyway, so that's kind of my story.
You know, that's kind of a lot, but that's what
I got.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay, Well, I need to go back around, just because
some of the work that I do with clients is
the inner healing work and breaking free from from curses
and sure bloodline and things that are over your business,
you know, spiritual leans, those kinds of things. And when
(19:07):
you said you have a grandma who was a witch
and you were seeing demonic things in your bedroom, tell
us more about that. And then I want to I
want to kind of ask you questions about how you
you know, were fled from breakout.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's a good question. So a
lot of the experiences I had was, uh, it was
completely out of fear. I I I was tormented with
this since I was twelve my grandmother. At that time,
we lived outside of Philadelphia, and my grandmother drove from
New Jersey at two o'clock in the morning and showed
(19:45):
up at our house. Never did that ever, and we
hear a bang on the door, and I wake up.
My dad wakes up. My file behind my dad, and
my grandmother's there, and her hair's all frizzed out, and
her eyes are like wide and and and she's an days.
And so my dad takes her into the living room
and basically says, mom, what's going on? And my dad says,
(20:07):
go upstairs. And I did what every kid would do.
I sat on the stairs and listened, you know. And
so my grandmother said she did an incantation and she
was being chased by spirits the whole way from New
Jersey to our home, and only felt safe sitting at
sleeping at the foot of my parents' bed. And so
from that moment forward, I experienced demonic entities. And I
(20:29):
talked to my Baptist pastors about it and say, what
am I going to do? Well fast forward, you know,
during the times of like drug use and stuff, that
stuff was like crazy to me. I actually stopped smoking
pot back in the day, not because it was the
right thing to do, but because I was seeing so much.
When I got filled with the Holy Spirit, that's when
(20:51):
things start to shift. But it still wasn't one hundred
percent like I walked in a lot of deliverance. I
didn't even know what deliverance was. I didn't know what
the prophetic was. I didn't know, and I had no
no I had no language for it. You know, people say, well,
are you charismatic? I said, nope. Are you pentecostal? Nope?
I said, I was filled with the Holy Spirit in
the front step of my parents' house. You know, like
(21:11):
I didn't really and I'm not not against those things.
I'm just saying, you know, that's that's that was my
my walk. So basically what happened was when I first
got built with the Holy Spirit, I would go into
restaurants and people will start manifesting the restaurant. I mean,
I mean it was like a movie. I might see
like three and four people from different seats and they
were just snarling at me. And I'm literally I'm not
(21:35):
even exaggerating, I mean, just like the movies, just like
you're seeing someone and they were like looking back and
I'm like, what in the world. And at that time,
I'd say, man, I feel like I just walked into
the matrix or something like it's it's a brand. So
basically what happened was I moved in deliverance without even
getting training deliverance. I just seed so many people, and
(21:55):
at that time in deliverance it took a long time
sometimes and eventually when I went to Graham Cooks School,
everything shifted. When I started to understand the finished work
of the Cross. I started to understand the you know,
you know what grace is, and the Kingdom of God
and power and authority without all that religion, legalism. All
(22:18):
of a sudden, it was like the gig was up.
The enemy rarely ever has ever come to me in
that way since then. Now I could send them from Afar,
but I had someone actually take me through when I
went to Graham cook School, I had someone take me
through like almost like deliverance slash soso for days. They
did a couple of days, and I've had people pray
(22:39):
for me since, and I don't really have any of
those issues anymore. It was so bad that I would
have them come in my dreams and ask me if
I was a if I would be a conduit like
my grandmother, and I had no idea what. I didn't
even know what that was. I had to look it
up in the dictionary. I didn't even know what conduit
and I looked at the dictionary, so everything shifted after
(23:00):
after I started getting some understanding.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh my gosh. So I'm just like, I've got so
many questions. So did your mind? Did your grandma ever
renounce it and get sick?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
So my grandmother and my grand my grandfather, my grandmother
left my grandfather for his brother. It was pretty messed up.
They're from westman Or, they're from Louisiana, and it's so interesting.
My dad'side of the family are they're they're, they're, they're
they're almost like Cajun's and it's they have a crazy life.
So my grandmother remarried like three or four times, and
(23:35):
she ended up coming back eventually back to my grandfather
after he lost his second wife, and she lived with him,
and so she was she was she I don't think
she ever did. I did ask the Lord, why in
the world did my grandmother go in that direction? Like
what happened? And he says, well, she was a prophet
and she had no outlet and the church she was in.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
I know, words start teaching me about that. He says,
there's no outlet for her. So she only took what
she can find around her. And my grandmother would tell me.
She told my mom when I was pregnant, when she
was pregnant with me, and it's it's interesting when that
gift is restored, like to me, like it's part of
the part of the family. That's one of the things
(24:19):
I know, Like I know, I've known people when they're pregnant,
when they didn't even know they were pregnant, just like
my grandma. But it's the redemptive side. Now I don't know.
I don't know what happened with my grandmother. I asked
the Lord about this, to be honest with you, and
I felt like the Lord said, Grandmam made a decision
to recant everything and give her life to me. And
that's that's what I believe I heard from Papa.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Oh wow, but isn't that true or just like, oh
my gosh, that just feels rings so true that they're
a prophet. But because the church doesn't acknowledge or teach
anything about it, you're like, Okay, well, new Age, does
you know exactly does Let's go.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Back one hundred percent. And that's why, like I don't
I honestly, I'd rather deal with someone that's new age
or spiritual than an atheist. To be honest with you,
I think that atheists don't even exist. They don't. You don't.
They could say that they exist, But in the foxholes
you hear so many stories of people going through near
death experiences, going through terror, terrible situations. They're calling out
(25:23):
to God. So I'd rather deal with someone as spiritual.
In fact, I don't want to get off on a
sidetrack here. I have been invited by new agers to
come to their meetings. They say, come and give us
destiny words, and I've seen I've actually going in. I
had no idea what I was doing. I really didn't.
I went there, and I think I did more by
accident than on purpose. And yeah, yeah, exactly. And I
(25:49):
think that's the thing. People put so much pressure on ourselves,
like we got to get this right. One of the
things that I value is I listened to some ministers.
I'm like, it doesn't sound like they have any problems.
It sounds so like PG, like I got crazy rate
and our stuff going on, Like how in the world
am I just am? I just like not getting this.
(26:10):
And I realized that sometimes people don't share their process
and I have different full. I have different beliefs about that,
but that's the reason why I'd rather tell people the
messy story not the cleaned up, everything's perfect story, because
I think sometimes we sell people a bill of goods
and we don't have real conversations with people, you know,
(26:31):
So if someone's new Age, great, wonderful, let's talk well from.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'm sorry, go ahead, no, no, I was just going
to say from my experience the people. When I first
started a retooling myself and I came out of corporate
as an architect, and I decided that I wanted to
build people instead of building buildings. I retooled in the
coaching space and this would have been eleven twelve timeframe. Yeah,
(26:59):
and a lot of those people in those places were
new Age, Yes. And what I discovered was they were
there because they had church woundings.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
One hundred percent. It's so interesting because that's the same
thing I come across every single time. It's it's and
and and what. That messed me up for a while
because some of the people that were excelling in that
coaching space were new agers and that kind of started
getting me to think about, like, well, why am I
not inviting people into the process. Why does it have
to be all you have to be a Christian to
(27:32):
join what I'm doing. What does it look like to
disciple the nations? I mean Jesus discipled non believers. You
think about that, right, you know? Would they didn't come
into Christ until after the resurrection?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Right? And that's exactly why I called my this spirit
centered business because I didn't want to be all Christianese
and everything, because I don't want to turn anybody away
who's seeking and who who maybe they're experiencing the super
natural and they don't understand, like I don't have a
grid for this, you know, So I want them to
(28:06):
feel comfortable enough to you know that we can have
the conversation and I can and I can say, you know,
religion has has hurt you, and I'm sorry about that.
And you know on behalf of every thing that happened
in church, you know, you don't need to hang your
future on that past that was false, right?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Yeah? Yeah, So, oh my gosh, yeah, it's it's so
amazing and it's interesting. Like I've had some my even
like me coming back to the Lord. I wasn't one
hundred percent before it even happened. I was reading like
Norman Vincent Peale back in the day.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Oh sure so, and it was and I was like, wow,
like this is the stuff people aren't talking about in
the church. And then I wrestled for a long time
because I would see that these tools that they were
using and the spiritual laws that they understood were working.
But I'm like, okay, hey, I had to wrestle through
all this, and uh, it's interesting. I've I've come to
(29:07):
a lot of conclusions that not everybody would be comfortable with.
But I believe that God's redeemed everything.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
And I think anyone that's experiencing supernatural experiences there's laws,
just like there's laws of nature, and you can't help
but bump into those things like it's just it's just
because someone explains it differently. They might say the source
is different, but if they they can. Sometimes the new
Agers can explain spiritual realities better than Christians.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
And yes, I agree, And that.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Sounds pretty crazy, Like I was looking at this word
and some of this comes from like the old mystics,
the Christian mystics that I was like, why is it
sounds so different versus the preaching I've listened to. Well,
people are talking about this word. Let's say, if I
say it right, the feminology p h E n O
m O N l l O g Y. The one
(30:00):
things that people in the New Age can explain is
the experience of the thing. And I think that the
difference is is we're a lot of the Christian Now
now we'll say the mystics have done that. There's actually
a lot of things that the Christian mystics from back
in the day would talk about way before New Age
was a big, big thing. So, yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is so good, Darby. I'm so glad you mentioned that.
That's gonna that that's that's exactly what we were really
struggling with. This would have been in like fourteen fifteen
when I was I was starting to come with spirit
centered business and we were talking about a law of attraction,
(30:45):
but not we didn't say right in church.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, but the.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
The you know, the Institute of Heart Math, when they're
talking about how are the our bio field the mortgage
field around us, and how the strength of our emotions
really attracts things in that store. That's all how God
created us by frequency and energy and created the universe
to work, and when he spoke that was that was
(31:16):
a frequency and brooding, the Holy Spirit brood and that's
a frequency, and the church was having nothing to do
with it.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's so interesting. It's so interesting because I went to
Graham Cooks School. One of my teachers. Now Graham actually
was transitioning out of the church at the time and
going somewhere else, moving with his wife. But one of
my teachers that talked about sound I've never heard was
Dan McCollum. Oh yeah, yeah, So Dana was one of
my teachers. I used to cut his kid's hair when
(31:44):
I would go there, I was doing the hair, you know,
and so but when he would talk, I was like,
oh my gosh, like yeah, quantum physics, Yeah, it makes sense,
Like why aren't people talking about this? And then I
found a couple people talking about it. And I've heard
some you know, justin Abraham talk about some stuff and
you know, and it just it's it's coming out more
(32:06):
and more. It's I think it's impossible not to like,
you know, So it's it's so awesome that you that
this path, like what you're talking about is we have
a very similar experience. We really do. Like it's like
almost kind of like she's been reading my journal.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Well, I've actually been writing the book because a lot
of this is in that book.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Wow. Yeah. And that's the other thing is people are listening. Yeah, exactly.
It's funny because those who are listening here, like I
like literally some of the what she's what what what
she was talking about to me was like things that
I was writing down, Like the Lord showed me a
little bit of you know, it's it's just interesting, it's
it's it's obviously that God is trying to bring a
(32:51):
revelation in the world because I believe this is Roman's
chapter eight. This is the this is this is creation
groaning for the revealing of mature sons and daughters of God.
And that maturity is not just drinking milk, but going
into the meat. And I think that's what's happening. And
at first people may reject that meat, but here's the thing.
(33:13):
Look at the fruits of what it's producing. Look at
the fruits of the work that you're doing. You know,
there's fruit there, you know, And so when you know,
I honestly I tell people when I still sometimes go
to churches that are denominational, I get invited into places
it's crazy, like I don't know, like you know, I'm
you know, I'll go to a church and I'm like, okay,
(33:33):
like this is my story. Here's some scriptures. But I
wasn't looking for this, you know, and so you know,
maybe you two here listening and you're like, I'm trying
to work through this myself, and it's okay, you're a
lot of question things. I heard a quote once from
from Bethel said something along It was Bill Johnson says this,
(33:57):
This really helped me get through this season. This one
little raise. I have to believe in God's ability to
keep me than a devil's ability is steal me away.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, yeah, that's really good. Yeah, I've heard it it
phrased a different way too, that we have more faith
in the devil being able to deceive us than God
being able to protect us.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But it's the same.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, Bill Johnson's amazing. Yeah, well, we need to land
this plane for part one, but let's continue the conversation
in part two because I want to hear more and
I'm sure the audience does too. All right, audience, this
has been wonderful. Please give me a comment over wherever
you're watching or listening to this I so appreciate you liking, subscribing, sharing,
(34:44):
following whatever social media button you can find a push,
go ahead and push it. I appreciate that. Share this
out there if you like the message that Spirit centered
Business is putting out to the world and what Darby
has brought to the table. It's just been so so hot.
Love it, love it, love it. Thank you Darby. All Right,
(35:04):
until next time, stay spirit centered. Peace out. Hey there,
SCB peeps.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
I want to give a huge shout out and deep
appreciation and thanks to Candace Benton. She has become a
super sponsor for the Spirit Centered Business show, so I
would appreciate you helping me in sending blessings and abundance
back to her. Thank you so much, Candace, and you
are well loved.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Thank you for listening to Spirit Centered Business with Berlin Nuby.
Be sure to like, subscribe and share with your friends.
The next age of doing business by being spirit centered
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(35:55):
Peace Out.
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