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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, hallelujah, my friends. Welcome, my friends, welcome. This is
another edition.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Of the Spirit Force podcast, spoken out loud, boldly.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Here at the Waynesville Recreational Center. I'm going to be
sharing some Bible verses and some quotes from Kenneth Kenneth E.
Hagen in Him. This is a very handy dandy booklet
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that I got from the Hagen's Church in Tulsa, and
so you can't have it. It's mine, but I'm gonna
share it with you. We are a podcast slash ministry
in western North Carolina after twenty years being abroad doing
stuff in most countries that most people wouldn't even know. Well,
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you might have heard of some of them, but you
might not know what it's like to actually live in
another country. It's kind of boring. Sometimes you just got
a lot more to do, a lot more to overcome.
You got languages, culture, food, but you also have a
lot less problems because most of the demonic brainwashing in America,
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designed for Americans is just does not work. Like when
you live in Japan, when you live in Taiwan, you
can't even see the propaganda, you can't even understand what
they're talking about.
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Out.
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So that's why it's very useful to go ahead and
live if possible, if you can, if you can bring
your family or whatever, go to Indonesia, go to Taiwan,
go to Japan, go to China. Even you can live
in China very comfortably as an American, and you can
teach English, and you can sneak some Bible in there too,
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if yes to me, China's like Numero Uno Mission Field.
There's such a hunger for God there. But here in America,
there really is a hunger and a need that exists
for the Holy Spirit, even though people don't acknowledge it,
they don't talk about it. Everybody's worried about their health.
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Everybody's worried about their finances. They're worried about stuff that
they can't control. They have fear fear problems. Well, that's
why our podcast slash Ministry slash multi dimensional Useful Swiss
Army Knife thing that we got going on here is
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finally beginning to take shape. It's finally beginning to make
sense how we can be of use, and that is
really to put the weight on the word, to get
people in the word, and to show you aspects of
the word that are pretty neglected aspects like healing, aspects
like finding yourself in the Bible, not that you're the
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chosen one, but when you realize that you are in
the Bible, that we do exist in the Bible timeline.
None of us are outside of this book. We are
all in the Holy Bible, regardless whether you're you're obeying
it or not. This is reality. This is the world
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that we live in, and that's why it's a very
good thing to read it daily. And never let this
thing out of your sight, Never let the word out
of your hands, never let it depart from your eyes.
So let's see, should we read red letters first, or
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should we read some of this Kenneth Hagen. I think
I'm gonna go ahead and.
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Read some Kennid Hagen first.
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Tyler Lujah. So in him, our confessions rule us a
spiritual law. Too few of us realizes our confessions rule us.
When we use the word confession, people instinctively think of
confessing sin. And the Bible does say if we confess
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our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us
our sins and decleanse us from all unrighteousness. But that
is the negative side of confession. The Bible has much
more to say about the positive side the confession of
our faith. Are you man Romans ten nine through ten,
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that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shall believe in thine heart that God has raised
him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Amen. For
with the heart man believes unto righteousness, and with the
mouth confession is made unto salvation. This does not refer
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to confessing sin. This is confessing Jesus. In his heart,
man believes, and with his mouth he confesses that Jesus
is Lord. So this is a different aspect of confession.
Proverbs six x two thou art snared with the words
of thy mouth, thou art taken with the words of
thy mouth. What we say is our confession, and our
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confessions the words we say rule us. You know, you
see people in America say, well, it's just.
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Killing me, or here I'm getting to that age where or.
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You name it. People say things all the time. I
read that I'm afraid, I'm afraid instead of I have
no fear. Even if you're afraid, if you feel the
feeling of fear, that doesn't mean that's you. If you
feel the sensation of pain, That doesn't mean that's yours.
You can get that off of you. You confess that
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you're healed, Confess that you have whatever it is the
Bible says I have it, then I get to have it.
That's what that's confession that we're learning. That's what Kenneth
Hagen inspired a whole like species of ministers that operate
in the supernatural. For verily, I say unto you that
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whosoever shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed, and
be thou cast into the sea, and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that those things which
he saith shall come to pass, he shall have whatsoever
he saith. Amen, let's meditate on these words of Jesus
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a little more. Whosoever shall say and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall delete believe that those things
which he saith shall come to pass, he shall have
whatsoever he saith. Did Jesus know what he was talking about?
Or are these just the words of an irresponsible dreamer. No,
they are not the words of a dreamer. Jesus meant
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exactly what he said, and what he what did he say?
You shall have he said, you shall have what you
say hallelujah. So what is it that we're what are
we saying? That's what we can have. I just made
a video confessing an angel base, a technological thing that
I had a vision of when I was in Taiwan
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that I'm at the rec center right now doing this
outside because my son is in daycare, so I can't
make it to the studio. I have to stay on
the premises legally, which is great because then I get
to enjoy the sea of people come in and out.
And you know, I just met a really sweet lady, Donna,
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who requests prayer, so we're going to be lifting her
up if you want to be in agreement with me
for her. And that's a really great thing actually to
be able to pray for people. So anyway, I confessed
this sort of a high tech angelic technology base. That
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was an encouragement to me in the middle of being
a ministernary in China and having need of encouragement. There's
a lot of Chinese souls out there and very few
people to work at getting souls, so it was an
intense battlefield and I still feel connected there. But we're
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here getting our confession in order. So what is that
all about. Let's finish this year. Haileelujah, haleelujah. To quote
Kenneth Hagen the way Kenneth Hagan says, hallelujah. Seeing then
we have a great high priest that is passed into
the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God. Let us hold
fast our profession confession. So the same Greek word translated
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profession here is translated elsewhere in the King James as confession.
Modern translations render it confession. Let us hold fast our confession.
Christians are told here, what is the confession we are
to hold fast to? The confession we are to maintain.
It is the confession of our faith in the Lord
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Jesus Christ, the confession of our faith in God, our
heavenly Father, the confession of our faith in the Word
of God. So when you start saying these words out loud,
you realize that in the dark world, where there is
that fallen angel kingdom, there are these very jealous and
very you know, I call them spanky bottoms because they've
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all gotten their butts spanked and paraded when Jesus rose
from the dead and took the keys of hell and
death and they were all festooned and humiliated publicly by
the Lord. So we get to remind those fallen angels
where their place is. It's under our feet. What's that
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under my foot? Oh yeah, ah, man, I stepped in
it again, Satan. Anyway, you remind them their little place
is not in control of reality and control of your life,
making you sick, making you full of pain, misery, doubt, regret, depression,
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all the things people take medicine for. That's the stuff
that we get to have through our confession. If you
just speak the word, you will find people getting healing
left and right, all right, continuing on here. The majority
of Christians, though, sincere, are weak. This is because they
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never really dared confess what God's word says about them.
They have never dared confess that they are what the
Bible says they are, that they are who the Bible
says they are, and that they have what the Bible
says they have. In fact, many maintain a wrong confession
instead of holding fast to a right confession. A wrong
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confession is a confession of defeat, of failure, and of
supremacy of Satan. They're always talking about what.
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A time they're heaven with the devil. What a battle
their heaven, What all they're going through, How the devil
was keeping them from success, keeping them sick, holding them
in bondage.
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And as long as they talk like that, according to
what Jesus said, that is what they are going to have. See,
when you talk about perverse speech in the biblical sense
of the word, it's saying things that are against the
word that you don't want to have happened. I mean,
nobody wants to have horrible things happen to them all
the time. But you'll notice, especially in my neck of
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the woods, I've met a lot of missionaries. I've seen
a lot of failed missions, and I've seen a lot
of successes too, But I'll notice with some of the
people that are going through a tough time, You'll notice
their words are often fear, death, defeat, failure. Words.
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All my darned trucks always broke down, and I can
never seem to get enough money during the wintertime, and
it's just this thing always happens, and all my back
went out again.
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And instead of no matter what the situation looks like,
confessing what the Bible says, the Lord is my provider
He's the one that miraculously pays my bills on time
every month. Hallelujah, even when your bank account is empty.
I'm confessing a church. I don't know where we're going
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to the money. I don't know where God's gonna get it.
He's just showed us that he wants us to have
a church, not necessarily yours truly being the pastor every time,
but having that base of operations where we can get
people to preach faith, to preach Holy Spirit, and not
have to like kind of beat around the bush and
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go to churches where we know pretty soon once they
find out who we are, they're gonna kick us out.
Or you know, not because you believe some weird culty thing,
but just frankly, people get nervous when the spirit of
God starts to manifest, when you start to have the
power of the Holy Spirit and the actual healings and people.
People were so angry at Jesus when he was doing
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his miracles, not just on the Sabbath. Lisa Perna, we
could have you as a speaker, Yes, hallelujah, Brenda, Yes,
we are the church. Amen, Amen, and men and men
and men, cheer's to you. Sister, and we are live
on Facebook and we are recording for the Spiritual podcast for.
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Fringe Radio Network. Amen.
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I did not need that cup of coffee. But it's
it's nice when when you look at what we have
out here, we don't we don't really have a whole
lot of spirit filled churches. What we have is a
lot of nice, well meaning Christians, friendly, helpful, very sweet,
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well meaning, but not walking in the power. So the
plan is this, here's.
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What we're going to do, guys, or goes huddle abroad here.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Okay, okay, it's not infiltration, it's support, it's go We
went to let's see, Dellwood Baptist Church and then we
went to Pinnacle Church and it was great, I mean, wonderful, fun,
nothing to say, no negative things, just a few things
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that I wouldn't say amen about. So there's just if
that makes sense, Like I wouldn't agree with a certain
statement of we're.
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All sinners saved by Greece all of a serson.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
No, you never confess after you got saved. You don't
say almost sinner saved Greece. You confess that you have
been delivered from sin. So that's a very subtle thing
that the local churches do. But there's still great people
that I love them, and I mean I'm not going
to have a debate in their church and stamp out. Yeah, Lisa,
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You're welcome to post to the fringe. I would love
to talk with you about that. You have a lot
of really, really really good shows, and I want to
make sure we get through on more platforms. But here's
the thing. When you are serving in a local church.
Let's say you're Tony Floyd and you're lack.
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I'm ready to go on Trailblazer and do some spirit wars,
and the local church is like, no, no, they're not
really ready.
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But Tony Floyd and I we went on a lot
of adventures together. We still are. He still shows up
in my dream sometimes. And you have the freedom of
having your own base so that from that spot, just
like you have your own house, you don't need to
go and live at somebody else's house all the time.
Because churches like to do this thing.
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Where they're like welcome home.
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It's like, no, don't make.
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It your house.
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Go home and be home at home. Just come to
church to serve the Lord and read the Word and
be a volunteer. You know, lay your life down, but
I see the basham's and what our family has kind
of like. The Fringe Radio Network also already is doing
to service other podcasters and increase their viewership and help
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service this operation of the word online. And yeah, I
mean we're getting Omega man on there. His show's going
strong and a bunch of different ones. So yeah, get
ready for an earthly and spiritual shaking like none other,
none other that no one has ever experienced. I'm giving
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you a British accent, Brenda for fun, because people tend
to listen more when you have a British accent. For
some reason, our world is splitting apart, both physically and spiritually.
It's time to position ourselves where God has been telling
us to go listen to the Holy Spirit. People, Amen, hallelujah.
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Jesus has said stop our a believer, saying you're a believer,
but a follower. Even demons believe in Jesus. Right. Yeah,
And what I was gonna say too, is that when
you are sharing the gospel, people start getting healed. I mean,
there are healings that take place in a local church.
It's not like you have to have a healing minister
the healing comes, you start confessing your healing even before
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you're seeing the evidence of it. That's what Kenneth Hagen
is talking about. All right, let's let's see here. So
people hold they yeah, they hold fast the confession of defeat.
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They're like, well, I thought I was getting better, but
it looks like it's that time of year and my.
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Knee always starts to hurt, you know, or whatever. There's
so many things people just live in them. We made
up a mock ministry for those people.
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It's called you don't know what they did to me.
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Ministries because a lot of these people they also have
this confession of like people did something to them.
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You don't know what they did to me. It would hurt.
It hurts so bad, it still hurts, still hurts.
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And you start sounding like a meth addict screaming at
people across the street. I gave a few dollars once
I had like zero cash and just barely coughed out
a few dollars for this homeless guy and Waikiki Hawaii.
I'd just gotten there from Taiwan. And he looked down
at it, this little Asian guy, and he's pretty overweight
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and chubby, too, and he looked up at me, He's like,
give me something substantial, and I was just like, ugh,
I'm sorry I gave him anything. It was just a
horrible feeling. So, yeah, the broken are coming to churches.
Churches don't know what to do with them. That's right. Well,
we just got to keep the word going. Can't just
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do it once a week. We got to keep the
word every morning. Like Lisa Pirna, everybody follow Touched by
Prayer Touched by Prayer dot com. Lisa Pirna excellent, excellent show.
She just makes it.
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Feel loved, especially on a cold, lonely morning.
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Luck today, just make you feel feel like somebody's hugging you. Yes,
So we want to see more of those signs and wonders,
and we need to watch our words. So that's why
I got this from the church in Oklahoma, Kenneth Hagen
in him, Oh my gosh, look at the time. Okay,
let's finish up here. So at least we'll finish this
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little part. I know folks wouldn't do it if they
really knew what they were doing. But that kind of
confession is an unconscious declaration that God, our Father, is
a failure. Wow, God is not a failure. This is
people that say stuff like, oh, if it be thy
will God you know, or well God is in control,
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when it's no, you're in control. You're the one. Did
you say that God? Did you put God in control
by confessing that he is the healer? And are you
reaching out to receive your healing? Are you reaching out
to receive financial breakthrough or freedom from mortgages, car payments, debts,
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whatever it is addictions, You keep confessing that you're free.
You want to get free from tobacco, you just start
confessing I'm free from tobacco, even between puffs. I've heard
of stories where people got free from cigarettes between puffs.
Saying I'm free sounds stupid, but one day this guy
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just managed to throw away the pack of cigarettes. He's
just like, I'm free, and he kept saying it and
saying it, saying when you confess something out loud, your spirit,
your heart, your soul, your inner person starts to believe it.
It doesn't know sarcasm, and it's not sarcasm. It's faith.
When Jesus saw the faith of the woman who said,
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if I can butt touch the fringe of his garment,
we should make an ad for Fringe Radio Network. That
has like the hem of his garment and it says
Fringe Radio Network on it. That would be so cool. Yes,
we are driving the car until we give up the
driver's seat. Amen, love you too, Thank you, Lisa, hallelujah.
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All right, So continuing on here, just got a minute
left here, I'm gonna pick up my son. Okay, So
you're not infessing, Like, even if it's unconscious that our
heavenly Father, the creator of the universe, is a failure,
we're not confessing that. What we're confessing is God is
not a failure. Defeat is not of God. When you
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talk about defeat, you're talking about the works of the devil.
God did not intend the Church should be defeated. He
said that the gates of Hell would not prevail against
the Church. So that's just about what I wanted to share.
That's the beginning of We're gonna go through this whole booklet.
I think it's worthwhile to spice up the show when
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I do it in studio. I've got Don Basham true
and false prophets, got Derek Prince's authority of God's word.
But this is a really, really, really important piece of
the puzzle that I never had this when I was
grown up. It was kind of hit or miss, and
you can't miss if you just keep confessing the words.
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So somealmone nineteen, big big, big pillar in my life
in the beginning, a lot of different regions of the
Bible that you can just go back to and go
back to and go back to John fifteen sixteen seventeen
of reading obviously all the red letters, you know, just confessing, confessing, confessing.
But I always had that problem with sarcasm where it
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was like, eh, I don't want to sound too religious
or I don't know. And that's where this new faith
stuff really changed things for me. It's just big, big,
big revolution. So we'll be back. I guess we'll go
to a studio and do this. Got to pick up
the bow. But you can join us at faithbooks dot com, Fringe,
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radionetwork dot com, and PayPal. I'm restoring the PayPal. I
realized I had the wrong email this whole time, so
we may have lost a bunch of donations. The enemy
is very sneaky. He tries to steal, kill and destroy.
So I'm claiming all that money back, all the Kingdom money,
all the times that we've the enemy tried to steal
from us, we're actually turning that into the opportunity where
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God is going to give back one hundredfold, at least
one thousandfold, a millionfold. So that includes a lot of
the years lost. People have lost a lot of years
clocking in nine to five. They've spent years in bad relationships.
They've spent years with pain, unnecessary cancer, when there was
a cancer cure all along. It's called MMS sodium chloride
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solution activated. There's a ton of cures for cancer. People
have lost so much and we're just declaring that that
is restored, that's coming back. So thank you, Lisa, bless you,
and Christy bless you. Everybody who watches this recording later,
bless you. You made me feel a little less crazy
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doing this in a parking lot. My son made me
do it.
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You don't know what they did to me.
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Ministries, Well, we lost some warriors recently, some really wonderful
people that have gone on to be the Lord. But
there's going to be a great banquet in heaven. So
I'm looking forward to that. And just every day is precious.
And remember we are all about winning souls. That is
the main focus. It's the great commission to train disciples
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and win souls, obviously. So anyway, God bless you. Thank
you very much who denied to Lisa. I'll talk to
you soon, see you later in the sequel, goodboye.
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There have been times I've fallen down. There have been
times wrong. There have been times I've felt it was
the end of this road. There have been times.
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I've cried your name. But I know.
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In all you stood by and made me to breathe
once again. And though I fall in, I'm looking deep
in your eyes. Bring God, I choose to stand.
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Yes.
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There have been times I could not see. There have
been times I could not breathe. There have been times
I failed my hand and your hand. There have been
times of volunteer my knees. Have you you have me
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down this snall love road and no one falling on
the ground.
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You take my hand and say, my soldier, now will
you stand? Oh God, you stand, I too, seru side.
I know me obstacles for what I laid down my life.
I playing you, help me, I play you all me
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because I'm nothing, not myself. Jesus man, I'm facing my phone.
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I'm facing myself. I'm facing this world that stands against me.
I can't find it in myself.
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I can't fight through on my own.
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Jesus, will you stand ride with me? Don't feeling thousands,
no kidnop not seeing me stand be signed me. It's
not I tie alone, not a thousand through me, try
not sold job.
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Will you stann.
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Old good samose sside. I don't help me up the
c but I laid out my life a pray. Help
me afray you old man, because I'm nothing of myself,
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jes As through man, little Jota.
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Shoes my sir with girl died.
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When hell me up another night, Tell my lie h
like well made well, lay all made well, doesn't don't
my sail she does.
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Go through mad.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
M hm m h m hmm. The