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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hm, Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Spitball

(00:38):
Media Podcast. We're gonna talk to u on the top
media stories of the week around the entertainment business, watch
a few movie trailers, and uh yeah, it's our five
year anniversary of sorts to the day.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Motherfucker. My name is John Draper Shah.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Five years ago today, we dropped a little show called
Break the Apocalypse on the same day, unlike the worst
time in human history, like maybe literally one of the
worst time periods in human history.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Which is unbelievable. Man, I it feels like, yes, I
can't believe that five fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Year to the day today is five years, which which
is dope.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
But at the same time, it's very depressing because before
we blame it'll be ten years. I know, like, what
the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
You know what this is gonna be like in ten years?
If I get.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
It, well, five years, but I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Well, I mean about ten years of this, come on,
I don't know if anybody could hold on to it.
Be sure, Brian, Actually, you look like you're Benjamin buttoning
it even though in the five years you look for Yeah,
I know it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
We've talked about body issues and shit. It's like every
time I feel like I look like a tubbo again,
someone goes, oh, you look like if you've lost a
lot of weight. So I don't know if all my
mirrors in my house or funhouse mirrors or what. But yeah,
I don't know what am I gonna look like in
ten years, I'll be like three feet tall.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
If I don't know, I honestly don't know. You might
be a waif, like just a goateea in a way,
Becky Lynch. No, like one of the Aquitine Hunger Force characters.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Jesus Christ, it'll just be like.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
A floating go tea, a floating go tea going through
the Midwest. Anyway, if you're joining us for the first time,
where the fuck have you been for five years?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
But we appreciate you checking us out on.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
The free show there. But we got a little Patreon
that's five bucks a month. It's very affordable. It's been
the same since day five years ago, which is probably
the only thing that is the same price five years
ago on Earth except maybe nothing. And you don't want
to go to patreon dot com backslashpitball Media, I mean

(02:31):
shot five years five dollars a dollar for a year
of all of the bonus content.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, and most importantly, man, it's five years worth of content,
weekly fucking content some weeks, multiple shows. I mean, there's
endless amount of streams and videos and audio. I mean, yeah, dude,
five bucks a month is And you know, we've been
looking at other creators. Man, everybody's bumped up. Everybody now

(02:58):
oh yeah, you know, yeah, I mean we're still at five.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So yeah, b show it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's like, uh, it's it's really the most affordable premium
program package.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
In the industry.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
It is. And when you consider that five years all
that content. We have two actually different phases of the show.
We had to break the Apocalypse days where we're pretty
much chronicling what we thought was the end of the
world at the time, the downfalls.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Falling apart on a daily basis.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah. So then we we woke up from our hangover
and we decided, you know, fuck this, let's just talk
about stuff we like talking about. And we've been talking
about movies from about the past what two to three
years now. It's weird, like, have we been doing movie
talk now as long as we ever did? To break
the apotage yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Longer and longer, way longer than definitely longer, definitely marg Yeah,
it's so long ago, like Marvel was good.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Five years ago, Jamie pennycook is that's how long ago
it was.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
But anyway, if you haven't gone to the Patreon five
bucks a month, you get in on our signature Q
and A, which is a boat, which is one of
the bonus shows. This half hour shows after the show
every week, and then there's a secondary bonus show.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
And as we're moving.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Into horror, horror Horror after September, it's gonna be full
on horror mode around here for a while. And might
as well just announce this now. We haven't talked about
this yet, but breaking news. For the first time ever
in the history of the show, we will be recording
our end of the year top horror movies, not five

(04:27):
like the five dollars, but ten, not ten dollars, ten
films shot. We're gonna be each dropping the ten best
horror movies that we watched in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Which I'm completely satisfied with that, dude, because last year
was very hard for me, yeah to pick a top five,
So I'm glad we're doing ten. I think it's very doable.
I think I think I could probably already name like
six or seven that I've watched.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I may have by ten right now. If you say
I could do it, what spec because I've seen so much.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I'm excited for it.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Show Also that really is gonna be a completely different
turnaround of our top five, you know what I mean,
because I think the competition started about two months a
month and a half ago.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
For the rest of the year for these movies.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
I think, so, you know, I mean there's always the
front runners that because they're so popular or universally love.
Do you think that those are gonna be high on
the list. Then you see them and you're like, yeah,
they're okay. But then you see a couple that really
blow you away, and I think that that happened to
all of us. So I still have yet to catch
up on Shutter, and there's a couple of movies to
watch on like eight on A twenty four Max and Peacock.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
So yes, I.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Can't wait, man, I can feel it. September fourth, we're
a little over thirty days left till Halloween, and there's
a lot more to go.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Thirty days till Halloween. What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (05:45):
No, sorry, sixty days. I'm fucking fried, dude, are you
are right? Numbers all day? I probably had a stroke.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, So B show celebrates Halloween on the fourth of October.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Repair I do you know.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
But it's a Midwest tradition. It's a Midwest tradition. They
just throw cheese at each other. Go to patreon dot
com backslist, Pip. We'll media five bucks and thank you
to the many, many Patreon champions who have been keeping
some people have been keeping these lights on for five
motherfucking years now. Program notes are bound. The Q and
A is now like a four hour show, So we

(06:19):
split the Q and A. What becomes too popular, we're
gonna drop the other Q and A. We're gonna try
to drop it next weekend for August, and the link
this weekend is gonna go up for September. Okay, so
please keep that in mind. We'll get the questions out,
We'll get the questions up. We've got about two hours
of a Q and A show over the weekend that
just happened.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
The holiday weekend.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
We'll probably have another hour and a half of another
Q and a show from the same So if you're like,
where are my questions, asshole, we're gonna read them, and
please don't call me asshole.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It hurts my feelings.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
And then we'll get a link up for September October,
Halloween month. We might be flipping the script a little bit.
I know, we got like the Q and A because
it's Halloween, so maybe we'll do a Halloween themed episode
and a Q and A. We haven't talked about it yet,
but b sho, who's hanging out in the old chat
room looks like a packed.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
House, a bunch of friends. We've got Donald Q. Stony Esquire.
He is a lawyer covering all your estate planning needs,
the state planning needs. We've got slave Cheeks, speaking of
what a transition. We have a fake attorney down Stoney.
That a guy who is a slave to the cheeks.
We got Jamie Pennycook, the Jmie Pennicook. We have the

(07:27):
Cleric of Chaos.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
I haven't seen the Cleric of chaos. And while it's
nice to know he's till clerk in the chaos.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
I hope you're doing all well.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I hope you're doing good, buddy, Drucifer Ursurfer. He is
the cutest man in the podcasting industry.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
He's adorable. He's like a chipmunk without bold of hair.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Do not feed him past mid our buddy marquis hanging.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Out, chilling. Marquis chilling all the.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Way from across the pond. Robbie Richmond, the Robbie Richmond.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
He's we must not calling him Sir Robbie Richmond because
he's a knight in my boat.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Oh yeah, or like Lord Lord Lord, I like Lord Yeah,
like Lord off Robbie Richmond, Lord, Robbie Richmond. Chris Matthews
are buddy hanging out to old school.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
As it gets its Chris Matthews.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
We got Joe Punches.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh, mister punches. He's back on the He's back to punching.
He's back on the men.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Like a rock and sock and robot. Yes, we got
KEVC TV.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh another guy goes back a bunch of years would be.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
His keV CO. We got John JLD nine nine nine,
or as I call him, Young John Ryan Keith, Ryan.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Keith, another guy another name that's been in my life
for a bunch of years in this world.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
And I thought, oh, galactic Wrestling Federation.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
He shows Oh, Galactic Wrestling Federation joined US night Listen,
thank you guys for hanging out tonight.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
We really appreciate it. We have an action pack show.
But I want to kick this off with disappointing news
as far as this goes for me.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Now, if you recall last week, I was very excited
because Friday, with the holiday weekend, I was had some
time off along holiday weekend. So I decided I am
going to go see Toxic Avenger. And we contemplated how
it would do, how it would be received. We you know,
we all had a lot of excitement for it. We
thought the trailers were working and I went and saw it.

(09:07):
And before I get to my feelings about it, uh,
we should just say it. It did terrible. It did
really really bad.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Shot.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I mean, it did so much worse than I think
we could have imagined in terms of box office.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I still haven't seen it. I've heard mixed reviews. Man.
I mean, I'm curious to see what you thought about it,
because a lot of people apparently hated it, which disappoints
me because I'm like, man, Lloyd Coffin was was involved
with this, Like, how could you hate it. It has
to be good. Yeah, I don't know, man, I'm I'm
hoping it's not gonna be dog shit either way. I
think I'm gonna enjoy it. I kind of enjoy, you know,

(09:46):
the goofy shit. As long as it's got enough violence,
I'm cool with it. I know you had mentioned that
you were kind of confused why it was called unrated.
I think John Krauser kind of mentioned the same thing.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh did he?

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, I didn't see that.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Okay, B Show before I get your vibe, can we
pull up what the box office was? This so much
conflicting information. I heard it was less than three or
two million.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
So this article from superhero hype dot com talks about that.
It says original projections were that it would earn two
and a half million, but it looks like according to Deadline,
it made uh shit, where do to go?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Thirty cents? Yes, roughly owes us money.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
So seven hundred and seventy five thousand on Friday five
oh six, on Saturday, four ninety five on Sunday four
to forty five on Monday two point two million total.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
That's awful.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Ooh B show.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Jesus dude, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Surprise you, guys. I know, John, you were surprised by this,
I'm not okay, I heard you get into it. I
hear I heard absolutely nobody talking about this movie other
than us. I saw some people posting about it on Twitter,
but like there was not a whole lot of chat
from like the Facebook groups I'm part of with horror movies.
I didn't see any ads around here. I don't even

(11:03):
think it was playing in any cinemas around here, And
according to the chat room, there's a lot of people
who said it wasn't playing anywhere near them either. So
for this property, which is so like a niche type
of property, with the type of movie it is and
the character, I'm not surprised by this whatsoever. Two and
a half million is pretty bad, but yeah, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Another before I get to my review here, guys, we
have not been able to ascertain the budget for the film.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
There is no.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I can tell you right now, it's probably around that.
Having seen the film, and now everybody in the chat
is saying there was no toxic ads here from slave cheeks.
Most people said they didn't know. I'm going to get
into that in a minute, Seah, do you know if
it was playing by you? Because I live in upstate
New York and it was playing in four theaters here.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know, but I'm curious to see if that's
a thing. Dude, I honestly thought this was going to
do at least like ten allien me.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Dud, you said that. I think you said, Oh, I
think it'll do about ten mil.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I thought I thought I was gonna do ten ten million.
But Jesus Christ, I mean two point two is yeah,
it's playing around here.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and be sure. I bet if you
pull up locally it's playing by you. I'm gonna I'm well,
here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I looked for it. I didn't see it, but I
might be wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
So here's the deal. Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I went and saw it on Friday at around one o'clock.
There was some people in the theaters because it was Friday.
The Friday is not the holiday had a half day.
So I went and saw it, and I'm just gonna
say it was very It was fine. There was it
was like a trauma move. It felt like a trauma movie.
Spoiler alert, there's titties in the movie, which I did

(12:44):
not expect to see titties, and it was like trauma.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Titties, like sad titties.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Shot.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
It wasn't like high quality. It was like random, you know,
Buffalo Seven's flashing at a concert.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
It was South Jersey titties.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah. It was like South Jersey on a Tuesday night,
you know, smell.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, yeah it was. They had titties in it. They
had some very very gory kills in it. There was
a lot of really like fun jokes. One of the
newscasters was an old curmudgeon guy who was just throwing
like anti woke terms just randomly where it was like, oh,
so they're calling them the toxic Avengers, Like how do

(13:21):
you assume it? Her pronouns carol, Like it was like,
you know, and I had like very a hypnus to it.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I thought it was fine.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Turns out the female lead in the movie is in
many things I've seen, including.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
She was Beverly Hills Cop. The daughter in Beverly Hills Cop.
She was in this movie.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, she's the female lead in the fucking movie. I
had no idea the daughter she is. Yeah, she's the
fucking female lead. And what else is she from? But
she's from another big thing. Oh, Sola, which I've seen.
It's an A twenty four movie.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Sola.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Sola was amazing that movie. I saw that in the theater.
I was like, this movie's amazing movie. Based on a
Twitter feed Yeah with Riley Keoh, which is Elvis's granddaughter.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So I saw the movie.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I will say this fun very much in line with Trauma,
very much in line with the original.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Front because this has come up with people and I
got to ask everybody's opinion.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
The Peter Dinklage thing.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
It's okay, it's doesn't I there were people who said
they didn't want to see it with Peter Dinklage in
it because they were still mad about what he did
with snow White and they thought the Dwarf shouldn't be
a toxic vender. You kind of get over that quick.
You kind of get over that quick. It's not really
a part of the story.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
And there's a whole lot of glory. There's a lot
of little you don't know the hell story.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
There's a lot of Easter eggs in it, like Newcombe
High reference Shah and it's called Saint Saint Rose or
Saint Roma, but it's trauma with the s where they've
drop off the sh the unrated shit, there's the titties,
there's the toxic peepee.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
We do see a toxic p in the penis in it,
which of course we got to see that.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
And there's a lot of gore, very sloppy prosthetic gore,
that troma style gore.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Shah, you know, you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
That like, you know, like street trash type of thing.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
And I'm fairly certain there's a poultry geist homage in there.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
So it worked. It totally worked. It was not woke.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Don't believe that at all. That's a dumb thing for
anyone to say. I don't I know why I think
it failed. But before I get to it, shah, why
do you think it failed?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Because this fail? This is a this is an l well.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
I mean, I'm looking around me. It's it's very limited though,
like there's one now, this is one, but then the
next one is seventeen twenty miles away, and so on
and so forth. It's got a very limited run. I'm
not making any excuses for it. But still though, Man
two point two was fucking awful because I again, maybe

(16:08):
I'm in different you know, circles as far as like
YouTube channels and Facebook groups. But I did see a
lot of talk.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
I saw a ton of saw a ton of ads.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I saw a lot of it, and I'm like, that's
why I played that commercial.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
That they did, that infommercial.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
And they were even doing something with a like there
were raising like five million dollars or something like that.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I don't like a fit for the environment, like something
yeah something.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Yeah. So I mean they were trying, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, so Ryan Keith b Show says, lack of marketing,
lack of distribution, that'll kill anything, manya.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
This is the same people that made.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Terrify her a fucking gajillion dollars because it's cinaverse bloody.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah. But like Terrifier had some bump on it because
of how over the top it was, that was a
viral thing. Toxic Avenger never went viral. You didn't have
Jerry O'Connell talking about the return of Toxi on Good
Morning La or whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
The fun was.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, but it also has twenty five years of lineage, cartoons,
Marvel comics, kids TV shows, and four sequels.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
No, it does, But like I think again, it goes
back to the whole bubble philosophy, where like I didn't
see much about it, you guys did, Well, we're following
this stuff for people outside that and not following it.
It wasn't anywhere like Okay, I saw not maybe not
Terrifier commercials, but I saw people talking about Terrifier who
had nothing to do with the horror industry or people
that normally follow it. This didn't have any of that.

(17:30):
And I'm looking at my showings right now, and the
two local theaters close to me, there's one showing per
day and they're like after ten o'clock at night. There's
one day with two showings, and then the next closest
is ann Arbor, which is like an hour and ten
minutes away.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Wah, it's really far.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, so I would say the following weekend, though, I mean,
if you guys remember, Terrifier Too was only supposed to
be in theaters for.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Like one night. By me, it was only so see
theaters for one night. It was there for three weeks,
four weeks. You know.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm just saying, so I have two theories on this,
and I'm gonna test awardter with you guys. Why did
they put this on Labor Day weekends when this is
nowhere near that kind of a film and has the
terrifier bubble burst to the point where a cineverse thought
they had another Cinaverse showed a Silent Night, Deadly Night trailer.

(18:17):
They're doing an underrated version at Christmas time, Shah two things,
Labor Day was it a death sentence and has the
terrifier bubble burst? And now it's you know, as far
as like the way we would go see an A
twenty four movie, you know, or a certain director's movie,
Like we don't care anymore. We're not just gonna go
see anything that the terrifier people put out.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
I mean, overall, I think the Labor Day move, I
think that was a good move, to be honest with you,
because it gives an additional day for people to be off.
So I mean, I don't think that was a bad
move at all. Again, I don't know what came out
this weekend. I don't know what it was competing against.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
But the Roses, which is a bendedict cumberdatchan.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
So that doesn't even so like if you're going to
see Toxic Avenger, I feel like no matter what's coming
out that week? You're gonna see Toxic Avenger because it's
it's it's a very niche product, you know what I mean. Like,
if you're following this, you're gonna go see it. It's
not some random thing you're gonna come across. As far
as like I do want to mention this real quick,
As far as the Peter Dinklish thing, I really think

(19:22):
the movie could have done without them, Like I.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Mean kind of bronze Schromann play.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Do you think that factored into it? The fact that
it was like a Diesel dwarf. And I'm not disparaging,
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Should be the show Labor Day? Why was this labor Day?
And is the terrifier bubble burst?

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Two things I think if they looked at this, First
of all, if a studio or a distribution company was
looking at this movie that they already didn't really want
to take a chance on, maybe this was the one
week and this is the one weekend where there wasn't
a whole lot of competition from what we saw. On
top of that, like Shaw said, it gives you an
extra day. It's a four day opening with some maybe
pre show on Thursday to give you some more exposure

(20:00):
or some opportunity to shine. However, no, no, go ahead,
what you're.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Gonna say, you put this out Halloween weekend? It would
make a killing.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
I think it would.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Halloween's a Friday night.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
But there's a lot of competition though during that time,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Go around horror is big enough to support that.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
So many movies are gonna There's three horror movies that
pretty much carried that are now going into.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Like the Hall of Fame of Box Office, Sinners Final,
The Recent Final, Destination and Weapons.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
So you know, I'm just.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Saying no, I'm solely talking about October though, just because
so many horror movies are coming out, you know, they're
competing against each other. So I don't know, Troma putting
out a movie in October is necessarily a great idea
for us. It would make sense.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, Halloween month, I think forget about maybe how if
the first weekend in October?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I think this does bigger.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, but there's a lot of people itching to start
celebrating Halloween now, and if there's not a lot of
other stuff out there, you would think this would be
a good way to start it. Off because like Spirit
Halloween's open, I just went into fucking Cool's to return
at the stores. Yeah, so I think I think that
it's not necessarily timing. Maybe it is. I just think
it's exposure and I don't think it was in enough theaters.
But it's probably awesome because, as we've seen before, if

(21:09):
the studios are not into distributing and spending the money
on the marketing, you're gonna die a miserable death. It's
just not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, I feel like it's not getting its do you
know what I mean? I think when you guys see it,
you gotta say, boy, like Robbie said, he said, yeah,
it was fun. It's a fun it's stupid fun movie.
Is it in my top ten? Probably it would be
not nine. You know that ten is. I'm fluctuating with

(21:37):
the ten. It's gonna probably be there, it might not.
But it's not bad, it's not woke. It's funny, it's dirt,
it's kind of dirty. There's some very funny scenes in there.
It was unrated. I don't get the unrated thing. I
think there's a scene with his dick that I think

(21:59):
might be that, which I'm not going to give away
because it's actually maybe one of the funniest scenes in
the whole movie where he has to pee in his face.
I'm not even lying and he's like, no, let me
pee it in my face. Now, let me press in
my face. There's some very funny trauma lines in their Shah.
Lloyd Coffin makes a good cameo and then towards the

(22:19):
end there and it looked and they had a post
credit scene that made it seem like they were anticipating
doing more of these movies.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Kevin Bacon so weird in this movie? What's his face?
Elijah Wood so weird in this movie. They play brothers.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
The Juggalo band that is like a like, I don't
want to give too much away, Shah, I think the
best thing they could do is rush this to streaming
for Halloween.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
No, I agree. I'm almost surprised that, like, the Juggalo
fan base didn't show more support for this, just because
they have really like a cult following.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Well it's not really Juggalos, but it is Juggle I mean,
you have to see it to believe it, but it's Jude.
You saw that rap group like with the guy in
the face of me.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, it's juggle.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
But do you think they ran it by ICP?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Like, do you think because it's in it they don't
say it it's satire, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
They don't. They don't say it.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Well, they should have, they should have collaborated with ICP.
Maybe I think that would have helped.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I was looking for more famous people cameos. Actually, and
I will say this b show. One of the funny
things about the movie is the cast outside of the principle,
the four or five principles all seem like people that
you would see enough trauma movie, all of them. And
you probably haven't seen that many trauma movies. I've seen
a lot of trauma movies.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
And you know, and again, as I mentioned, maybe that's
part of its downfall, part of its charm and its
downfall is that's great for the crowd that wants to
see that, But in twenty twenty five, how many people
are still longing for that? Is it enough to carry
a huge release? Yeah, And to that point, like we've
seen all right, Terrifiers started on like DVD and it
was streaming and it built some steam. You know, what

(24:04):
was the movie all hollows even then Terrifier and then
it was Terrified too, so it had this build, a
natural build from streaming through silver screen. This is a
property that hasn't had any sort of media release since
what nineteen ninety three, probably, Yeah, And I haven't heard
a lot of people clamoring for it other than people
that are really really into it. So it's not like

(24:26):
even Friday the thirteenth, that was this huge tent pole
but has had a refresher every decade. At some point
in every decade, there's been something bringing it up. Halloween,
even a Nightmare on Elm Street, what was there was
a Texas Chainsaws when they keep fucking drumming up. So,
I mean, if you look at those big franchises, they're
still continuing to keep them alive. This has really been
the first instance of what toxic Avengers since probably the

(24:49):
cartoon in the nineties as far as I know.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, shot.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Don't you think though, its history was enough for this
to bring people into it. Between the cartoon, the comic books,
the toys, the fucking sequel, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Well, yeah, obviously I thought that because I was thinking
it was gonna make ten million, I thought it would
have a strong enough call following for it to do that,
because again, man, I mean, vinegar syndrome collaborates with trauma, right,
Like they restored all the toxic Avengers on four K
and gave it back to Trauma. So they just put
out Sergeant Kabuki. Man, they put out you know, they

(25:24):
put out Mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Mother's Day is awesome?

Speaker 3 (25:28):
What was the killer Grandma Ones? Rabbit Granny Rabbit Condom?
And again, all these movies, they give them eight thousand
to ten thousand copies. Right, most of these movies have
sold out. So you mean to tell me that there's
ten thousand people that bought Rabbit Grannies for dollars on
four K but didn't bother to go watch a Trauma

(25:49):
film in theater.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well, again, a lot of people said, didn't know it
was out, a lot of people said didn't see an
advertisement for it.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
A lot of people said, Peter thinkele Itch is a douchebag.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
So what I mean is those people. I know for
a fact there's eight thousand people that buy this shit,
So those people had to know, you see what I'm saying, Like,
I don't know, maybe people just don't go to the theaters.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
You know, Jamie's asking how it holds up with the
older movies. You could drop it right in with the
other movies. Doesn't really seem like a departure the way
it shot, other than the fact that there's.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
A couple of famous people in it.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
There's so many people in it that I definitely think
had day jobs. You know, the special effects are you know,
rubber throughout.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
But it's fun. You're gonna enjoy watching it.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
If they're smart, you could stream it for Halloween and
people all have like parties with it and laugh at
the you know, his little dick and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
It's gonna it's a fun time.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
I want to segue into another movie I watched because
it was recommended to me by my brother Mike from
the Necromaniacs podcast. Shutter is really going to start in
the next few weeks, really becoming a fucking place to be.
They really should give us free memberships for how we
promote them. I want clown in a cornfield. I didn't
know anything about the book, didn't know much about the movie,

(27:05):
but my brother Mike said, hey, if you look at
for something short, it's only an hour and a half.
He goes, I actually really liked it. I'd be curious
what you think. I thought it was okay, it was good.
I didn't dislike it. Very odd choice for the killer,
That's all I'm gonna say. If you haven't seen it,
if you have access to shut it, you can get
a free trial. You might want to wait for that

(27:26):
free trial. But shaw, what have you heard about it?
Because I I.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Thought it was fine.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm a little biased because I know the author, Okay,
the original book. He's a YouTuber. I've been on I've
been on some streams with him before. But I'll be
blunt and honest about it. I mean the trailer didn't
really look that great, and I don't think he would
ever be offendtive he saw this because again he had
you know, he didn't actually like direct a movie or anything.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah. I don't know how much they deviated from.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
The Yeah, I mean he just you know, he was
the author for the actual novel.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, my brother really liked it.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Really, I'm surprised.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I know they are snobs over there.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
They are fucking they just reviewed They just reviewed a
necromaniacs bring her back.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I mean they are horror knobs.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
They're you know, uh, and they were like, if you
recall we hated talk to me. And I'm like, you
guys hated dog to me, like the other guy, the
other guys on the show, Mike and Jeff.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
But I was fine b show.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
You know, like I said, for an hour, you want
to watch an hour and a half horror movie to
kick off Halloween.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I thought this was a decent way to go.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah, I'm hearing mixed things. I'm hearing people said it
was really enjoyable. I'm hearing people say that it was
not the type of movie they expected, which I don't
know what they were expecting with a movie called Clown
and a Cornfield other than fucking clown in a cornfield.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
So it sounds like the live it's great, the clown
looks great, kills are pretty good, pretty good kills. The
effects were good. You know, I don't know how much
this costs. It's very Canadian to me, you know, it
just it just feels a little. The girl's pretty cute,
she young kids, very cute.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Well this is interesting too, man seventy three percent. Critics
score only fifty eight popcorn Meter, so interesting. We don't
usually see this, guys, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think you should look.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
It's a crowded playing field. But before the playing field
gets too crowded, I think it's worth checking out if
you have shutter and like Drew saying, yeah, it's fun,
it's just a fun It's nothing. You're not gonna you're
not gonna watch it again.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Probably, but you're not gonna be getting played out.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Well, there's a story with the clown thing, so like
the clown, it's it's a little bit more now, it's
not what you think, like you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
This is always this is the author. Okay, this is
the author. So I guess he did a toxic Avenger
novelization too.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
He just put that's what's his name there? I can't
make out his last name to say, Adam, Yeah, okay, Adam.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, I liked I liked your idea there. It's an
interesting idea for the killer. That's all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm not ruining it for anybody. I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
And then my brother Mike said yeah, right, and I
was like, I think that makes it better than it
was for me, because I didn't quite understand what the
fuck was going on because once the killing starts, you're like,
wait a second, Oh, oh, this is.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
What I wanted to mention guys.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
That finn wolfhard eighties style slasher movie just came to Peacock.
I believe the summer. What the fuck is that called
something Summer? We saw a trailer for it. It was
about like a hell of a summer. That's on Peacock
right now. I'm gonna watch that over the weekend. I
heard mixed things about that myself. Yeah, and Drew says,

(30:32):
it's not a paint by Numbers killer clown movie.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I would like to check out that Killer Summer. I'm
curious about it, and I believe this weekend people, if
you have Max Sean I as of right now, we
say it's the best horror film of the year.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Bring Her Back is coming to Max this weekend, guys.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
So also, why two K is on Max?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, y two K has been on Max. I forgot
about that. I want to check that out too. I
do want that looks you know, it did look like
and it looks like it was shot to fill. It
looks like it was shot to video. Doesn't look like
a shot to film.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Well, just the goofiness and of the practical effects and
the monsters and all the creatures like it looked just
like Troumo or something with it did look like nychle
go Man something like that.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
You know, trom has got some bangers.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
And what was that anthology with Pedro Pascal shoot that's
on something Bites or something like that that's now on
Max as well.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I think Bear, thank you for the five years. And uh,
I believe Indigo is in there, right, but yeah, he
dropped Bears in there. People just reached a Freaky Tales.
Thank you, Robbie. That's on Max now too. But you know,
oh well, Jamie just said, I just watched Let Me In.
I liked it all right. You watched the American version
of Let the Right One In. Though, Let the Right

(31:47):
One In is a superior film. Uh just fy I
even have the book for Let the Right One In.
It's very dense. But before we move on, some bad
news in the horror world. Myself at b SHO Brian
have a very deep affection for a filmmaker Mike Flanagan.
We feel that he has quietly become a major player

(32:08):
maybe not so quietly. He's a pretty big name these days.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
And he had attached himself to rebooting The Exorcists, which
we were very, very excited about around here, and unfortunately
it was announced the other day that he has left
the project due to creative differences.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yes, we're fucked again, Shah with.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
The Exorcist Now, a guy who clearly would have probably
brought that to where it should be is gone.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
No one has replaced him at this time.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, I mean, I think you and be sure we're
going to be a little bit more saddened by this news.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Than me.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
If he owned flanagain. I didn't watch like the Netflix show.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
So the House put You Over?

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, I did try to watch the other one, What
was the House on Haunted Hill? I couldn't get into it.
I thought it was very blumhousey jump scary, like I
just it wasn't for me. So I really I don't
have anything that I can really because I haven't seen
Doctor Sleep a Gerald's game. I like that Stephen King
movie that's on that like that. So that's probably the
only thing that I've watched by him that I can

(33:13):
really co sign. So like it's hard for me to,
you know, be too sad about some guy that I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
You're forgetting his opus which is Midnight Mass, which is
just absurd.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
He is overrated though, I feel like, dude, like he
hasn't done that.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Much, but you didn't hang in for the House of Usher.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
So those we're talking two TV shows in like two movies, dude,
like this, we're not.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
No, his abstantial was good. That was his first indie
horror movie, right, him and his wife. That was a
good movie.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's hard for me to put him on.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Did they do another indie horror with the death with
his wife played the deaf girl?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Like he's got a couple of low key.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Bangers there, dude, But with the guy, the serial killer
who's stalking the deaf girl.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
At the college, he's, Oh god, dude.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Hush hush is what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah? You never seen hush? No? Hush is great, dude,
Like everybody in the chat's like, hush, hush hushes be
sure you've seen hush? Right? No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
It taunts me every time I turn on my streaming,
it taunts me.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
But Abstenia is good too.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, So he's got Doctor sleep Fall, The House of Butcher,
Haunting of Blind Manner, Midnight Mass, Haunting of Hillhouse. Gerald's
game Midnight Club was Hush, and then he did Yeah
Haunting Oculus Ouijisentia. But people like Shelby Oaks, well show
they Oaks.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
He just produced it.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
He produced. Yeah, did he do Abstentia, Abstenia? Whatever? These
aren't in order, are they? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Is that him directly?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah? Dude, that movie's fucking great. That's a low budget
horror movie that he did.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
That and Hush were his first, and that's how he
got all these other mainstream things. So I think if
you saw Midnight Mass, you'd be like, genius this guy.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
You'd like everything he did going for dude, everybody's talking
about Hush. Do you see this chat?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Everybody's like, yo, it was just.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I was actually I was the being on Blind buying
Hush because screen factor you put it on four K.
But I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, Hush, Hush is legit, bro, Hush is legit. It's good.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I really like Hush. Yeah, be sure, I'm disappointed.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I'm worried that they're gonna give this to a shitty
person and it's gonna suck again and then we're gonna
get another reboot.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well, I mean it's Blumhouse and Universal, so you know
that's what's gonna happen. You know, I was not even
with Mike uh flanning get attached to it. I was
not too excited for this. Not to sound pessimistic, but
you know, seeing how much Shah hated The Exorcist that
came out last year, seeing as all the drama that unfolded.
Then Mike Flanagan comes on board. I was on record,
I think, saying I'd be surprised if they actually saw
the light of day. And now he ends up leaving.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
So it's disappointing.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, and we've beat.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Up Blumhouse enough, I think the past few years, but
it's because of shit like this. It's just creative differences.
They probably wanted to meddle and tell them what to do.
We've seen this studio interference time and time again from
these big studios, and that's really disappointing coming from a
studio like Blumhouse that started out picking up low budget
movies and saying, look, we'll take no front end, we'll

(36:04):
take a piece of the back end, we'll distribute do
what you do. Yeah, and now they're kicking out all
these bad legacy properties or not getting a made so B.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
B show hot off the presses, Drew Yari is saying.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Mike Flanagan is now commenting saying he's still confirmed that
he's still attached to it.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Wow, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
That's a weird fuck up. Though there might be more
of that story than we're being told.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, remember we also heard similar before the guy left
the Friday the thirteenth prequel series two, and he said
he was still attached, and then they announced he was
gone a couple weeks later.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
That's right, Yeah, that's exactly whatever. So we'll see, we'll
see a developing story and we will see. Now we
have a bunch of trailers to get to. I'm excited
for these trailers. The first one I wanted to get
to is the sequel to the sequel to the sequel

(36:58):
going back to twenty eight years later, twenty eight days later,
now twenty eight years later. Weird buzz for that, because
the trailer was the most watched horror trailer of all
time didn't really translate with a lot of people. There
are a lot of people that were disappointed with the film.
I loved it. I thought it was great, might be

(37:19):
in my top five. We don't know how the year
is going.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
But if you've.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Stuck around to the end there, you'll notice that they
set up a future story based on an opening story
in the movie. And a lot of people said the
trailer was better than the movie. Yes, because of that
nineteen twenties poem with the.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Audio what whatever the hell that was called like jumping
up and down again, which by the way, is in
the movie. So this is called The Bone Temple.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
It is the sequel to twenty eight years Later, and
Alex Garland wrote it, and it's directed by the woman
who did the Candy and reboot and the Marvel's movie,
which everyone hates. But we'll give her a mull again
on that, because even she said the script for that
was terrible. This is twenty eight years later sequel, the Bone.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Temple, trying to predict the future.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Oh another audience, look at.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
The discarriaging and hazard as occupation.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Show him back to the Well.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, good.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
In fact, I like that it may not even exist
at all.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Oh I cannot see Jesus.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Oh I am no guinic.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Many of the things we take for granted. Wow, well
one day pass away completely. I openly of the man.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Well, I look at these shots last times college shots.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Dude, men will no longer communicate.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
January. I love these shots. We may have diseases and barbarism. Wow,
greatness loud jees.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I can, but I'm not gonna be able to hear you.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
How you go around owt Wow, we'll cease to make
any sense, I believe.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
I just love these fly Master shots.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
It just reminds me a lot of places.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
So walk me dead. We explained more intense.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Than survived, yet even greater changes. Wow, I'm still become.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Whoa damn Dia da Costa? Okay, Wow, that's a nice
way to kick off the year show. I love that trailer.
It's not as impactful as the other movie, but it's
if you've seen it, you would understand.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
That we're going through a different kind of story here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Actually that's twenty eight years Later is one of the
only horror movies I haven't seen yet from this year.
I do have a pre ordered, though, so the still
should be coming in. I think it's coming at the
end of the month, so I'll watch them by the
end of the month, but I agree. I think I
think the twenty eight years later one looked a little
bit more like, I don't know, just like overall chaotic,

(40:46):
which I enjoyed. I do like the way this is
a shot though, You're right, like all the wide shots.
I like that above drone shot of the actual temple,
like that looks really cool. I don't know the whole
gimmick behind the bone temple, but you will. I'm into
that though, Like that's what's pushing me over the edge
because I'm not into zombie movies, like this is not
typically my type of film.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well, remember, they're not zombies, you know, they're not you know.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
What I mean though, like the virus whatever, like you know,
it's the same. Yeah, I mean they're pretty much.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
I mean, they're not really zombies. Do zombies mean you're dead?
They act like them back to life. They never died right.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
By definition, they're not zombies, but they act like zombies essentially.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So Robbie is saying that they were shot on iPhones again.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Yeah, remember we saw they use like fifty four iPhones
for the one shot, which is crazy that iPhones can do.
I don't know, ilieve, I don't know what world we
live in now where well these are made by iPhones.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Drew kind of gave me shit for this when I
said it before, but I use iPhones with asterisk. It
is an iPhone. But they also have like forty or
fifty thousand dollars worth of attachments and lenses and ship
for them. So yeah, yeah, I mean that's.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
How they'll standing there like this.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yeah, yeah, you're with their image stabilization.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
They're using four hundred of them at once for an
aerial Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
But regardless of how many tools they attached to the
iPhone at the end of the day, that's the root
of it. The fact that you can actually still use
a phone to attach all these things. That's still fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Yeah, be sure. What do you think of the trailer?

Speaker 4 (42:15):
I thought it looked fine. It looked a lot like
the other one, except like Shasa, not quite as engaging.
And maybe because there was more action, faster paced action
in that one, I kind of liked it better. And
maybe because like some of the shit that I see
with the people in masks and capturing shit, it just
it really reminded me of stuff I've seen in The
Walking Dead, like right before I tuned out when the
Walkers came in and all that stuff. So I know

(42:39):
this is probably nothing like that, but it also just
it gives me those vibes when I see it, so
I want to give it as due. I just can't
say much about it.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Well.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I liked Nia Dacosta's Candy man. I really enjoyed that movie.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
I thought her visuals were great, her colors were great,
and shock, don't forget Alex Garland wrote this fucking movie.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (42:57):
No, I know, I just I want him to go
back to what he used to do.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Man.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
You know I'm tired of Yeah, but I'm tired of
the war movies. I'm all set on twenty eight years
later before even seeing it. I want him to get
back to the weird sci fi shit that I know
him for. You know that's right.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Well, January, you know, it's an interesting time to put
it out. Yeah, it'll be the first probably big horror
property of the year that we'll be checking out. But
another trailer that dropped. I am very, very excited about
this movie. It's another sequel of sorts. It's a sequel
for sure, the sequel to The Black Phone really one

(43:34):
of the cooler kind of movies that came out the
last few years. Worked on many levels. They're taking this
to a completely different direction. They have the final trailer.
They flesh out a little bit more of what's going
on with I guess they call him the Grabber? Is
the demon mask ethan Hawk character. I saw this trailer
in front of Toxic Avenger and on the big screen

(43:57):
I was like, fuck, I am excited for this fucking movie.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Uh, this is black Phone too.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Have you heard of the Grabber?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Grabber? Yeah, that's killed him. What happened in that piece
you show?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
The usage of rooster is just ridiculous, right, Yeah, it's
one of the things I liked about the.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Original trailer I had are.

Speaker 6 (44:26):
It was about missing kids.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Oh wow, doesn't he like go Freddy Krueger in this one?

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yink the hook? Look, there's no Freddy Krueger. Look at
the shot these shots. Oh this looks really good. He
lo so good shot. Look at that black background. You

(44:57):
killed me.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
It could grow.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
People.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Oh those red lights as choking word amazing?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Who I love that mask. The Mask works somewhere. It's
very friendly over and it comes down October.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
This place brought us here for a reason.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Shot Locus the fucking winter backdrop here?

Speaker 7 (45:39):
Oh my god, like the cold o the tables?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Look at is he skating? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
What do you think happens when you die in a dream?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
It's time to find out?

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Why did they look for brain?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Oh yeah, Yo'm so I'm calling it shod that's gonna
do real good for Halloween.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah, no, that's definitely Gonnah. I wouldn't be surprised if
that was like fifty sixty seventy million, oh even probably
one hundred million. Honestly, I mean fucking Insidious did one
hundred million. So I mean you know this has the
marketing team behind it with Blumhouse. Again, we should on
Blumhouse a lot, man. But I call it like I
see it, man, I mean this, this one actually looks good.
I'll give them props when it's when it's due. The

(46:42):
film looks very grainy, like yeah, almost to a point
where it's like distracting.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I have to say, I did just see the trailer
last week.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
It didn't come across that way on a screen.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Okay. I was gonna say, maybe it's just.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
H Yeah, No, I I know that going. We gotta
remember this is supposed to be the late eighty B show.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I don't know if we have a timeline yet.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
I don't know specifically Drew did Mention. Drew did Mention.
Even though it's in the eighties, it's got Rooster in it,
which was the nineties. But yeah, see, I like the
film grain.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I you know, there's something too.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
I hate when I see like the crystal clear high
you know, high glossy.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Just if you're gonna set a movie in the seventies
or the eighties, do that. It just looked really good
and it gave it character. It gave it character, And
I think that's like the dream sequency type shit.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I can I can imagine Robby is saying, it's the
flashback stuff cut to grainy.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yes, what do you guys think of the mask shot?

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Because I think low key that's up there with like
Arthur clown recognizability.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
That mask is so fucking good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
And by the way, I think I think all three
of us love grain. Like I when I buy movies,
I like watching them restored with all the grain. It
just it has that cinematic old school like seventies, eighties
vibe to it, like grindhouse, grimy, dirty shit. So I
like that, but I'm glad that it's just with the
flashbacks because I think it would be a little too

(48:07):
much of the whole movies that grainy, because this was
this was like very grainy. This wasn't your typical grain
that you would see on the seventies movie. I do
think this is gonna be like an iconic character. Man.
I don't know how many movies are they're gonna up
pumping out, but this might be the next one after
Art the Clown, Like we might have the next you know,
the graphic.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
And b show. Think about it.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
How many studios do you think wanted Halloween and saw
this and.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Was like, We're not We're not going. We're gonna We're
gonna wait.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Maybe. I mean, this is definitely it when you see
that trailer right there, I mean, this is a very good. Okay,
So it's got a mix of like old school slashers
because of the look and the subject matter. It also
has enough of the flavor like the insidious type of
uh what sort of paranormal type of shit going.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
On in it? Freddy Krueger shit, for sure.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
That's a Freddy Krueger shit. My my mother in law
used to say that.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Well, well there is no Freddy Krueger shit, so like
this is it? So fuck it?

Speaker 4 (49:03):
But that's what I'm saying, like, And we talked about
this a while ago, and I have I know a
lot of people who still do like retro horror channels,
and I did one for a while and it got
sad after a while because one we weren't getting these movies.
Two we get him in their shitty product placement. Three
we get him in their really bad remakes. And finally
it's like when you have this movie come out and
you have Terrifier come out, you have weapons come out,

(49:24):
and you have talk to Me come out? Or what's
the one with the hand that we liked from the
Australian guys talk to me, let's talk to I'm sorry together?
Is the other one I met? We we got all these
movies coming out, We've got Bring Her Back, You've got
all these movies coming out this year, last year, year before.
We don't need the old stuff. Leave the old stuff,
b it is what it is. Love the old shit

(49:44):
for what it is. You have all the new stuff. Now,
this is the new Freddy Krueger. So just go with this.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, and like Arthur Clown is like sort of the
new Jason in a lot of way, you know, in
that regard because it talk, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
So I'm excited for this.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I feel like this is gonna be if this doesn't
Scott Derekson, I think Drew point out he was supposed
to direct Doctor Strange too, and he said, no, I
want to make this movie called Black Phone. And Black
Phone was a very successful movie in theaters. And that
first opening if you, I think, be sure you still
haven't seen it, the opening sequence, first five minutes.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
It's just to which movie black Phone?

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I watched Black Phone.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I haven't finished it, but remember that opening sequence, which
is like a flashback sequence or seventies like very seventies
heavy about the missing kids whatever song there.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Yeah, it was like a seventies song.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Is that where the get the van and the kids
are walking in the streets and yeah, he grabs the
balloons go up.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Yeah, like he uses the balloons to get the cute.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Anyone question, how do you guys remember movies? Like I
forget about it all the time.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
What I want to.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
About black I don't know my wife's birthday. I don't
know my kids birthdays. I don't know what I want
to work, but I remember that.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Do I just spoke too much weak? Like I just
don't remember anything about the movies? Wait, what did you
just say too much weak?

Speaker 2 (51:10):
I don't know, I can't remember, but it's just.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Look, I look, I understand what is saying to an extent.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
When I watched his log is lagging, our.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Stream is hopefully maybe let me fix that too, any
YouTube windows about that kind of shopping and we got
like two too many YouTube windows open. Just sent a
trailer over to look at viitting her syndrome. But but
I'm when I'm trying to recall everything about a movie,
like I can't do a review after I watch it
because I don't remember everything. But if you start talking

(51:43):
about the movie, the ship comes back to me and
certain iconic stuff you remember.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, yeah, of course, like like show somebody was talking
it was the anniversary of martyrs and somebody has made
it a post that said, brilliant, incredible.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
I'll never watch this movie.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
First sequence put two girls, the one where she's cotting
her in the back and just cotting her in the back,
you know, talking about right with the girl couch and
she's just slashing her ropen and I was like, oh
my god. I only saw that once, and the other
one was the last scene with the woman, you.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Know, with the thing.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
So I was just like, it's just certain things just
get buried in your brain.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I don't think that has anything to do with the weed,
you know. I mean, I I don't you know. It's
as simple as that. But oh, DREI he goes, that's
your fault.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I watched that, so can you guys at least is fine?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
I'm watching the stream. It does look choppy, But can
you guys, at least heroes fine?

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Would you say?

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Shah, I can't. I hate.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
So the chat room, Can you guys hero's fine?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Because I know it's choppy, I'm sure there will let
us know there there's always a little lack.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
That one in the chat we got too.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
One of them is a new body horror movie, UH,
starring uh the broad from uh Handmaid's There Something Moss
I forget her name all the time, Elizabeth Moss, who
was in A Great Invisible Man. That fucking movie is
so good.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Uh. People are calling this movie saying it's not perfect.
I don't know what's going on with the feed. They
say it's choppy. I don't.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I don't know, like how we what the hell what
to do about that? I don't know. Sorry, people, Uh,
I don't know. I can tell you where I am.
There's like high winds, like to the point where it's
gonna storm.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I don't know. They're saying it's so choppy, it's become
the Bayou geeks. All right, that was me. That was mean.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
We love our friends down south.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, So hopefully this uh clears itself up. Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Anyway, She's in a new body horror comedy movie. It's
getting a lot of a buzz there. It's called Shell.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
You check it out.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
This is the new substance.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Just have another person look at me.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
E's funny future.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
I guess.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
I just want you to look at me and see
someone else.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Sorry, I didn't cry.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
I think I should cry.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Maybe't run the way on the movie someone who is younger.
We're going to see a whole slay.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
We want you to consider some treatment options.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
So we shan It, CEO of the largest wellness brands,
promises to give you a looking younger for I want
for our clients to free soft manhibition.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
By the way the music sounds like and the cut
in with the technical scan, you have.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
A chance to achieve full potential.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
That's hot. The Incomparablemantha. I watched every episode of your show.
This is delicious.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
What is it? Mm hmm it's me, oh ship, what's that?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Miss or something? She's not telling me?

Speaker 2 (55:41):
What is going on? Can tell you, sire.

Speaker 6 (55:54):
What I think parent totally free looking out how you
look to determine who survived.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
There's only so much.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
A lot of work, but that there's a lot of
work done.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yeah, the rest, so.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
The objects, so it is all it is.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Going to theaters, shuh this I we're gonna see a
lot of substance.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
I wonder if this was in production before that got popular,
because it does look very similar, like as far as
tone anyway, obviously the story's a little different, but it
looks good though, Like I'm intriggued by it. I didn't
see like too many scenes where I was like blown
away by it like I was with the substance. But yeah,
this is something I would definitely watch, like it's it's

(56:54):
interesting enough for me at least, you know, take the
time to go out of my way to watch it.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah, and be sure. He brings up a good point.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
This could have been in production two years, you know
what I mean, could have been We don't know. It's
just probably got green like the theaters.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Maybe because it's possibly.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
It's possible, Like like you said, the music of the way.
The trailer was caught the at first to general tease
of the concept, which I don't even know what the
fuck the concept isn't well, I like it, like the Substance.
Maybe the promotional tactics tactics are like the Substance. But
let's face it, Okay, that does something like fucking uh

(57:32):
you know, okay, or no a mixing Tarantino with Wilt.
So it's a universal thing about women aging and wanting
to stay beautiful. So from now on, because Substance was
such a fucking monumental movie that came out, it's probably
always everything's going to be compared to that. Now, there's

(57:52):
always been movies coming out where, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Mean, that's not an to make this, but gonna be
a movie.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Where I turn around and start looking like the kid
from the Bear, Like, no one's gonna do that. But
I thought it was interesting because a lot of people
have seen, like the people that dropped it that saw
in previews said, so we're having some issues with the feed,
so we're gonna save I'm just gonna say it now.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
We're gonna do a deep dive into.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
The ed gun Charlie Hannam uh TP series effects. Uh
that looks just incredible. So we're gonna wrap it up.
We are heading over to Patreon. So Patreon people, you
will get your show is in an audio show hopefully
it won't impact the quality there, and we will also

(58:48):
get the link up.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Uh. So we want to send some props to our friends.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Rich Davis got his podcast Sue don Tony the nec
Romaniacs podcast to buy your geek stayff, We've got the
podcast over there. Shout anyone else we want to add
before we head over to patreot.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Uh not take man, oh shut out, shout out to
my boy disconnected man. He's uh, he's actually doing all
the bonus features for the Toxic Avenger so oh fuck yeah,
he's got all the all the features for the four
K release. The physical media release it covers Dog two.

(59:27):
So I had really fun doing that cover. So yeah,
go check it out.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
That'd be a fun cover. That'll be a fun cover.
And be sure, Brian, anything we want to add before
we head on out.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
No, just thank everybody for the you know, the five
years of support and a lot of you been with
us for a long time and you help us, you know,
do this every week. It's fun to talk about this stuff,
but it's even better to have a great group of
people to talk about it with. So I think we're
gonna dig a little bit maybe into that talk about
our five years of the Patreon for the bonus show.
So if you're not a member to go to spitball
dot com, I'm sorry, dot com back back slash.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Spitball Media. It's not easy. It's not easy to be
a show.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
I'm just gonna start saying backsplash, backsplash.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
No one will know what we're doing. Patreon, dot Com,
back slash, Spitball Media. Thank you for the page for
temporary Q and A. And I'm gonna be dropping a
solo show. So what I might do is drop it
next week and then we'll do it back to back
Q and A style shows at the end of the month.
There we're heading on out. Sorry for the technicality problems. There,

(01:00:28):
Digital Lizard. Shout out to my oldest friend there for chilling.
Thank you guys for hanging out with us tonight. Thank
you for the best five years ever. Cannot say how
much fun we've been having because it's been a fucking
amazing ride. Great weekend, Bye for now, Peace,
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