Simone Biles, the Olympics, the NFL, NHL, MLB and NBA

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Sporty US Media dot Magic Media dotMagic Now welcome to Sporgee. I'm Chris,
I'm rich I'm the iceman. Andeverybody loves a quitter. That's what
I've learned in the last couple ofdays. Ah, What's what's going on

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with with athletes the last couple ofmonths. It's all of a like you
can take a mental health day?Is this? Is this a new thing?
Look? Uh, I talked tomy wife about this and her body
at work talking about someone bios everybodyof her body at work, all right,

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makes her a great Olympia. That'sI can't question that. I just
can't. However, what she didin Tokyo, I got a call bullshit,
all right. She didn't come outthe day of competition, and like,
guys, my mind's messed up.I'm I'm screwed. Um, I'm
having problems focusing because of Larry Nasser. Uh, please do this without me

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and I'll be there to support you. This chick went did a vault,
messed up, fifted and then said, uh, yeah, my mind's messed
up. Sorry, that creates toomuch pressure. Gotta go yeah and see
this is and and this is why. Okay, I don't care that she's
fucking like, oh I have Ihave issues with my mental health and this

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and that. That's sad for you. I'm sorry for you. Here's the
deal. And we haven't raised ourchildren or we haven't brought up athletes this
way for generation for two generations now, and we're starting to see the dividends
payoff better for worse, we didn'ttell these these oh so fucking fragile athletes
that you may be good, youmay even be great, but until you

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overcome all obstacles mental, emotional,physical, neurological, whatever the fuck,
and go out and do that rareair shit, you're never going to be
the goat. And then here's thething, Well I want to be the
goat, but I had this problem. Well, then you're not to go
Yeah. See, the stars haveto align for you to be in the

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conversation. To be the greatest ofall time, you have to win the
genetic lottery. You have to havethe supportive parents, the right supporting cast
of players. And guess what thisis life. Bad shit's going to happen
to you during during it. Ithappens to everybody. One of the most
insulting articles I've seen about this fuckingstory is Simone Biles has suffered more trauma

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and tragedy in her life than mostpeople on this planet would will ever experience
in their entire life. Do youknow what the fuck? First of all,
what the fuck are you to qualifythat? Second of all, you
don't know that? Yeah, exactly, like fuck off all right now?
Now, look, she's still inthe Great Olympic, has won gold medals.

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No one's arguing with that. Butwe say it about Mario Lemieux who
missed seasons due to cancer. Hedidn't get this, even though he was
on pace to pass Gretzky as alltime goal scoring leaders. We didn't get
We didn't give them the fucking recordbecause well, if it hadn't been for
that cancer in those seasons you missed, that's not how sports works. Yeah,

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and see this, this is theproblem we've raised children to where no,
there's no consequences, I admit I'mwrong. Me saying I'm wrong goes
against everything that we instill in childrenthese days. For anyone to admit I
made a mistake is akin to makingthem fuck somebody they're not sexually attracted to.

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I mean, that's like that's whatthey act like. They act like
you're emotionally raping them if you askthem to apologize. And so when they
apologize, they feel they've done they'veput the work in. My penance is
my apology. So of course theyfeel I had to miss some shit due
to this. Oh well, well, Michael Jordan had one hundred and four
flu and went out and fucking nailedit. Okay, Brett Farre's dad died

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the day he threw for fucking thehighest amount of touch touchdowns in yards.
You ever threw a fucking lamboat tothat point, I mean, do we
need to go on and on andMario him you played through cancer. Here's
here's a guy I forget his name, sorry's the guy in the NHL who
shot out a year and a half, beat cancer aggressive cancer and came back

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and is still playing. Athletes aresupposed to have the most steeliest of the
result like that. That's I mean, back in the back when we were
kids. I mean, that's justhow it was right they were. You
were if you were a professional athlete, you had grit. You had more
grit than everybody else. You couldyou could struggle through more adversity than everybody
else. You were tougher than everybodyelse, And this isn't what is this

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combined with Naomi Osaka? I meanwhat I mean, do we have to
bring up the common thread or arewe not allowed to do that? Is
that's that could be another part ofthe conversation too, But it's all of
a sudden, we're just gonna allowthis. I mean, it's if this
starts here? Where did I guessthis is the old to what end conversation?

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I mean, it's it starts here. When what's gonna happen next?
Uh? Lebron's taking a mental healthday. He's a healthy scratch because he
just needs a day. Yeah,guys, it's not that. It's not
that far fucking fetch man. Theworld we live in is not the world
we lived in last year, letalone five years ago. Period. Russell
Wilson's just not feeling it. He'sgonna sit out week sixteen. I mean,

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here's here's the deal. Like oneof the comparisons that I heard about
her situation was too and ironically notironically but I'm not psychic. But apparently
the examples I bring up on SportsR I brought up Zach Grinkey on this
show a couple of weeks ago.And of course, and I went through
you know everything he's went through.I mean, homeboyd literally was supposed to

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be pitching that night and was sellinginsurance to somebody at a desk. I
commission on the policies he sold.I have no problem. He seems like
that type of guy. He justseems very officious and I want my money.
Yes, this was the agreed uponBut he's he's just a weird fucking
guy who's gotten mental issues. Absolutely, here's the thing. He's also bounced

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around from team to team. He'salso an elite talent. He also went
away address those issues, came backand was better than before. One insurance
amen of the year for three daysof work. That's how That's how this
works. And and and yes,I know where you were wanting to go,
because this person in this article immediatelywent to little black girl. We

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pick on privileged white male We likeride ladies. He got he got shit.
Well we'll get on that at thenext gen. Exhausted. Yeah,
but uh yeah, I mean sorryyou threw me with that one. Anyways,

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Well, dude, well, dude, let's be honest, like like
male female. Okay, that's onthe on the on the I'm gonna get
outrage and I'm gonna use it asa shield to protect myself from criticism scale.
That's like a six. Race isa nine trans a black trans female
female. No, a black transtrans male who's pregnant is a Muslim?

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Oh god? Like, that's that'slike the ten on the scale. You
know what I'm saying. But andit's like, and there's degrees between nine
and ten. Race is pretty muchnine. Right now? You get every
job you ever applied for, gofor. I would go nuts, I
would you for the moon. Iwould apply to CEO. Oh shit,
I have no business applying for becauseI would probably get hired. Here's the

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conversation that probably needs to be had. It's not being had. You want
to make it about mental illness.You want to bring awareness to it.
You want to bring awareness to thefact that there are plenty of athletes that
suffer from mental illness. Then whyare the athletes and the people who supposedly
support these athletes pittying them against eachother? Why aren't it Why isn't someone

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like Simone Biles talking about the strugglesthat other athletes have went through before and
said, Look, I'm not sayingnot to deal with it, or to
deal or just walk away from yoursport, but there's got to be a
better way because the way we havenow led me to this point, and
it led people before me to almostthe exact same point walking off the job.

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It doesn't make sense. Yes,we are paid a lot of money
and given a lot of fucking adjurationto play a child's sport. Essentially,
or what she said, it wasa bunch of bullshit because she fucked up
and she took her ball went home. That's I gotta say. Guys,
Seriously, that's all I saw.Well that's all you saw, because that's

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where your mind goes. But Ithink we've established it. We hear you
know the average person. Here's hoofbeats, We think horses, you think zebras.
That's yeah, we get it.I understand. No, I understand
you. You assume the worst becauseyou played sports, you quit, you
quit, you take it personally.We've talked about this before, dude,
this ain't nothing new. Don't getoffended because I'm repeating shit I've said before.

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No, it just I can't.I can't. I'm with you on
this one. I mean, phoneBiles. Everybody wants to talk about the
greatest Olympic gymnastic person, and that'strue. She was. She she she's
done things that you know, otherpeople haven't been able to do. You
know, she she was, youknow, amazing. But what she did

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in this Olympics, I can nevernow, I can never not put her
or I can never put her withMichael Phelps and this is their second Olympics.
Like all of a sudden, beendoing this professionally for at least eight
years. That's just if you comeon Olympics, so I'm guessing at least
a decade decade plus you've been doingthis. All of a sudden, you're

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gonna crack like that's what That's whatI's That's why I'm smelling a little bit
of bullshit here, Like really like, all of a sudden, the pressures
are too much, the pressures you'vebeen dealing with for a decade plus,
all of a sudden, there toomuch, Like come on, man,
But she hasn't mentioned it at allat all. I think that arnold drop

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come on, don't bullshit me.Okay, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold stop, let'sbe honest. Let's let's stop the bullshit.
You already got an argument that ispretty sound. Stop patting it with
horse shit. Dude, doesn't matterif she brought it up. You know
that. I know that if shebrought it up before the Olympics, people
would have attacked her for why areyou bringing up your personal bullshit before the

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Olympics and being a distraction. Ifshe doesn't bring it up, you get
what you got. Now. Ifshe's in a note so she's in a
no win situation, don't prop yourargument up with toothpicks. Bro use fucking
beams. Come on now, seriously, she there's is a possibility she quit
very fucking strong. She could havehad people. I don't know him.

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But enough about Jim gymnastics. Don'tthey call it? But what is it?
They call it? In baseball?At least the yips? We're the
most basic thing. All of asudden, I got a player who's been
doing this thousands and hundreds of thousandsof millions of times, can't throw the
ball back to the fucking to thepicture and he's a catcher or something.
Okay, but take your lumps then, like that's what I that's the lumps

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like sometimes sometimes you gotta finish fourthor fifth to fucking light a fire under
your ass for the next time soyou can finish first again. Absolutely,
absolutely, And dude, we've createda society that we cater to people who
and their excuses for why they didn'tfucking well, they didn't win. But
it's still not good enough because youcan't. You can't fucking forge a fucking

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weapon out of out of just garbage, right, So there's got to be
steel there and something to work withto begin with. So I have to
believe on some level she does havea fire stoked in her that was just
there for whatever reason. She foundgymnastics, she had a natural affinity for

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it, she moved into it.Hey, I'm sure she looks at this
way gymnastics has brought me all thegood things in my life and all the
worst things in my life, meaninggetting molested and fucking being exploited. Is
I mean, let's be honest,dude, how much money is she really
fucking made off of the Olympics becauseshe still wants to compete in the Olympics.
I don't know her endorsement deals,but the better a decent amount.

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I mean Okay. The other thingI think about, too, is another
it's it's kind of going back tolike kind of the whole headspace like I
think Chicari Richardson was in, likeif this, if this is true,
and you you want all the wayto Tokyo and you haven't been feeling it,
Like that's kind of that's kind ofa that's kind of a bullshit move
too, Like you you you could, you should have bowed out earlier.
Let someone else go to Tokyo.Like it's like, I don't know,

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it's it's to me, it's justher past performance is what makes me go,
this is a bunch of a bunchof horseshit. See I think I
think what probably what's going on isAnd like I said, I don't know
the terms, but whatever the yipsis and gym and gymnastics. There's been
some people whose opinion I kind oftrust because they've been around gymnastics, who
said, there's a term for it. They think she's got it. She

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doesn't want to admit it. Teamyou know, I say, he doesn't
want to admit it. They're tryingto fucking bow out with as much grace
and basically throw pop as much smokeand then fucking Houdini on out the door
and by popping smoke, that's muddyin the waters of the conversation. It's
her mental health. You can't attackher for that. See so all you
can do now is go I think, oh you think you have no proof?

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See what I'm saying, like thisis you are we This is how
Believe me, folks, The medialike chess maneuver pieces around on the board
to get you to feel and doa certain thing and make it socially acceptable
to say one thing and not another. Oh, you threw this is she
threw up. She threw up theshield that you can't like Megan Marko threw

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it up like so when everyone wascalling her on all of the like I
think Inside Edition figured out the thethe interview she did with Oprah, like
more than fifty percent of what shesaid was out and outlies. But because
she threw up the mental health shield, he said anything anything about you know,
the the other way you're you're attacked. You're an asshole. Trust me,

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anyone gets ahold of this, I'mdone. It's over. Well,
we're done collectively. You know,it's it's you know, you know that's
in that sense. And that's whyI said, okay, you want to
play the game, because this isthe game that yeah, like we get
we tend to get mad at therules of the game, but we don't
have a say in that. Wehave to just deal with the rules.

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They're dictating the rules. Okay,so I can't talk about her mental health,
Well, let's talk about how sheain't the greatest of all time.
She ain't even in the conversation.And this is why dress at your door
with torches, bring it, bringit, trust me. Trust anyone shows
up my doorstep in this neighborhood thatyour mistake. I ain't. I ain't

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near the city no more. Bringyour weak titty bullshit. Okay out here,
my neighbors will handle it and thenfucking dump you off on my porch
and say dispose of that. So, yeah, go ahead, and the
land to do it. Uh huh. But I mean it's I don't have
to go far for the pig farms. Now, that's the good part of

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living out to poot. It's justit's no it Never in any time in
history is it any more evident thana narrative is being crafted by the press,
like it is you're the press isshown their ass so much in the
last five years at least they startedshowing it, and I'd say about two
thy ten and it's just been ithas been ramped up and now it's it's

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there is clearly a story being told. Some things get put out there and
some things get buried, you know, and some you're allowed to talk about
some people and not others. Andsome people can get away with some things
and some people can't. Yep.One of the things that people are comparing
some moone biles too is, uhCarrie Strugs when she uh carry Strugs entered

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herself and still went out there andperformed of her and got the meadow the
same Carrie strug at all. Noneof those boxes were checked. She did
not go back out there, Shedid not injure herself, She did not
win anything. Uh Carrie um givespraises to some moone biles. Well,

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you have to write, she's analum, she's a team alumni. She's
nowhere near this. She she'll wantthe heat carry struggle, wants to keep
making money. That's that's just athat's just a that's just a business play.
Hey, I'm still the whole glassof milk money of Carrie Strugs.
I'm not saying someone Biles doesn't haveissues. I'm not saying she couldn't focus.

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I'm just saying, if all ofthat was the case, that she
should have said something before she tookthat first ballot. Exactly. No,
you're absolutely right, okay, becausethis is it. Look, you're competing
an individual and team when you're goingover there. Okay, if you're just
competing in as an individual, inmy mind, that's and and you drop

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out over some bullshit. Now thisis all Now, Now we can fucking
let's play in the land of ofwhat if. Okay, if she did
fucking quit over some horse shit,or because she just was like, oh
I've been distracted for the last fouryears and I'm not as great as I
once was, or whatever, whydid you go to Japan? Yeah,
if you're there for an individual one, that's good, that's bad enough.
You're there for a team competition.You just fucked over, not just one

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person because you took a spot frombut your whole team. It ain't all
about you, sweetheart. And seethis is you know, of course,
because the way that our media isyou know Trump's you know, someone stuck
a mike in Trump's face and said, hey, what do you think about
was going on over the Olympics?And he did what He took the bait,

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and Trump did what Trump did.Trump's gonna Trump and he you know,
woke politics gets you, and it'slike, yeah, okay, well
you're taking one slice of a pieand trying to act like it's a whole
pie. It doesn't matter. Thedistraction distractions have always been there. These
are the Olympics. You're supposed tobe the most finely tuned athletes in the

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world competing against each other. Anydistraction is a problem. It is problematic.
As the kids like to say,Okay, so yeah, if you're
the US like women's soccer team,and you're running around talking about how you're
not hate the same as men,even though you get a better a bigger

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percentage of the door, you justdon't draw as much, like, you
know, all that bullshit, thewhole kneeling, Uh, what's her face?
Uh? The chick with the purplehair running around, you know,
wrap it out. You gotta havean opinion about everything, gotta gotta show
up at every fucking miss every thatevery opportunity take a picture. Oh look,

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I'm gonna kneel even though my blackteammates standing right next to me.
Now, blah blah blah, blahblah. And then they get out there
and dude, three nil. Sheloves using that effort to bro three nil.
Yep, you didn't score, gotthat ass whooped. Literally they you
could have had just played defense andprobably ended up with that fucking same score.

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Speech when he brought that up,and everybody cheered because they're simple.
They'd see a slice of the pie, and he goes, this is a
whole pie. And they're like,we love the Emperor in his clothes.
They're they're too dumb. The fuckingsee through the bullshit, and the bullshit
is he's right, but he's rightbecause he's tight. He's he's he's right,

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and he's right for the wrong reasons. And that's what Trump loves to
do. And that's where Trump lives. That's his zone is Yeah, distractions.
What Jesus fucking Christ. How muchhave we heard about the US women's
Olympic soccer team in the last threeyears? So the men's team even exists,
rightly stecking up championships and we don'teven know. You got your way,

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You got what you wanted, Yougot attention. Now that the spotlight's
on you, you're Wilton. What'sthe reason? Mental health? And you
know what winners do. Winners gohome, lick their wounds, look at
the tape, figure out what theydid wrong, correct it, train harder,
go back next time, and winwinners go home and fuck the prom
queen. Yeah, yeah, well, what what the fucking I mean?

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Okay, let's keep it about thesport. Fine, what is your excuse?
Then? You've had not four yearsfive to prepare for this, to
train and don't give me this COVIDshit. You're gonna tell me that if
you really wanted to get some extrafucking repsin down at the fucking gym,
miss Biles, they wouldn't open itup for you. You know what I'm
saying? Like, come even duringCOVID, get the fuck out of here.

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Come on, man, would youlike to hear some of the headlines
about Simone Biles, the ones Isent you guys in the chat. Simone
Biles withdrawal will make us all winnersin the long run. Simone Biles and
the most human meaning of courage.Olympic great Simone Biles show strength and knowing
when you need to stop in thefinal. These women don't owe us anything.

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Bar bar puke, puke puke.Why was I not seeing these articles
when when Zach Grinky was going throughwhat he was going through? White male?
You anything back in the show,right, and that's what we're all
thinking. Well, I mean Ican tell you this, NPR. Uh
there's quote unquote sports division only coversstories. It makes sports look horrible.

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I'm like, NPR is like Nickelback, it's music for people who hate music.
NPR is sports. NPR sports issports for people who hate sports.
As I say, like what if? Sometimes the comedy rights itself like they
just what is it saying up there? Just I like sports. It's got
that, it's got that up there, no one, no one as a
team. I don't know. I'venever seen anything on their website, but

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I'm just saying they cover like crickets. Listening to NPR, I'm sure curling
is huge listening to NPR, yes, like, oh, they talk about
the Olympics, but all I talkabout is how horrible everything is and how
you know, oh, apparently youknow by the way, none of the
fucking like there's something that we gothrough every four years. And this proves

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that this this country, our societyhas amnesia. Everybody gets outraged and shocked
by either how stringent or loose thelocal laws are in regards to what a
person can and can't do. Andyou know, of course the Olympic village
and all the fucking that goes onthere is always you know, good for
a giggle or two on late night, don't try hard comedy, and you

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know that's usually what it what itwhat it's been over. What about the
fact that, uh like, yeah, certain acts and certain things are illegal
in that country that's hosting the Olympics. Why am I not seeing op ed
pieces talking shit about them? Whyam I not seeing how these are problematic
societies and and we're getting to peekinto their problematic lives because it's fucking Japan

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there. They already own us inmany areas, puts them off. Yeah,
it's because there's their trade partner.We like them. It's it's real
simple, get mad, big mad, big money. You ain't gonna get
mad by that. Japanese people theyusually don't boycott and throw fucking and go
and go on mostly peaceful. Right, So I mean, as all there

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there it is that you want itthere. It is easy fucking targets,
easy fucking targets, soft targets,dude, that's what these people go for.
Anything hard, Anything that you actuallyhave to have, like understand an
understanding more in depth than who didyou vote for last election is beyond these
people. They're just pure partisanship.That's why you're getting the stories you get

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and the ones you hate. Believeme, someone else loves. So they're
getting to hate and love clicks.That's why these stories are up there.
These are sports people not talking aboutsports. And during the Olympics, like
even Barstool called Simone Biles the goatOlympian. I'm sorry, what the goat?
She's got the most medals. Ever, I don't know, it's felt.

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I mean, if she doesn't havethe most gold medals and she must
have the most medals overall, ever, right, I mean, if you're
the goat Olympian, that means overthe entire Olympics. But you see what
I'm saying, you have to thegame's being played. It is being played
right in front of you, andit's all theater. It's all horseshit.
It does not matter. That's what'sirritating about these stories keeping about sports.
If you bring up anything that's notsports related to these stories. Okay,

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you talk to sports, the factsof the sport, the stats of the
sport with people. They don't wantto talk about that now. They want
to talk about how unfair historically thesport's been. Okay, well what wait
a minute, hold on a set. So I can't criticize somebody who's doing
something today, but you could talkabout shit to happen one hundred years ago
and somehow apply it to today.Sure, okay, dumb, Sorry,

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it's maddening. I don't I'm nota huge Olympics guy, but I do
follow the coverage all right. Andone of our very first shows with SPORTG
was covering the Olympics in twenty sixteen, and I think if we didn't say
it on the show, we saidit either before or after, Like we

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both were like, are you areyou picking up like some weird type of
coverage, Like they're covering the Olympicsall weird. It's like it's name,
you're not seeing highlights of what theydid to win the Gold Medals. You're
hearing everything else about them, youknow, like, oh, I stubbed
my toe when I was three andmy daddy left home. So I've overcome
this and this, and I'm like, what the fuck does this have to

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do all these human interest stories?Yeah, it's a reality show coverage,
right, Like half of it isthe story about how the fucking contestant came
to be there, pretty much.Yeah, and that's what it's. That's
what twenty sixteen, that's what washot in the streets, folks, that
type of reporting. In the fiveyears since we've gotten to I don't think
I've seen some I've seen a videoonline on any of these articles I've read

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about Simone Biles, US Women's teamanything, all these opinion pieces. I
haven't even seen one video of themplaying the sport that is being talked about.
The Trump administration did something to thepress. And it's not it's not
you're not on ringing that bell.You're not We're not going back to how

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it's about the words for it.I mean, it's it's yeah, it's
there's a story being told people.I've been seeing it for years, and
it has never been more evident.I mean this is it doesn't matter.
I mean like, it doesn't matter. You're going to because people. This
is the other thing. People aregonna believe what they want to believe.
You could try to convince a personnot to do something stupid, and they'll

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sit there and listen to you.They'll look you're dead in the eye.
I'll nod, they'll say everything right, and they'll go do it anyways.
Yep. So it doesn't just mediasilos everywhere and everybody's right. Like,
So, it's amazing how many peoplethe last year and a half are all
of a sudden fucking medical experts.You know, that's where we are.

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You have a doctor telling you somethingto your face and be like, oh,
I think you're wrong. I meanwhile, never mind there you know,
eight years of medical training, youknow, they're countless years of experience as
a physician. Let the straight uptell a doctor they're wrong. Okay,
cool? How do you make yourmoney again? I mean, I look,
I don't know where I got mixedfeelings. Let's put it that way.

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About the NFL saying they might mandateevery fucking player, everybody it's an
NFL employee, has to be fuckingvaccinated only because of this. If you're
going above and beyond and you're breakingthe contract and you're willing to basically cut
people's contracts, you know they're goingto go after them for their signing bonuses
and all that shit. Okay,that don't get vaccinated. Here's the deal

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that wasn't in the contract when theysigned it. You're throwing in an amendum
in the middle of their fucking contractssaying basically, you want to play in
this league, you have to dothis, and you're bound to be in
this league because of an agreement youagreed to before this condition was given to
you. I don't like that.That leads down the road of, oh,
what's a big enough problem, wecan just declare an emergency and we

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can do what the fuck we want. There's a reason that there's a player's
association, a union, and acollective bargaining agreement with the owners and the
players association. That's my concern isstrictly an ethical concern, as far as
oh I don't want to take it, then don't play bye to your employer
yea, or enjoyed like or toenjoy still having to go through all the

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fucking hoops every week, the testingand all this and that, you know
apparently from I've heard everything from yep, you have to be tested every day.
Basically. It's like like basically anybodywho's not vaccinated has to basically go
through what they went through last seasonevery day. That's pretty much laid out,
like, hey, if you getthe shot, you could just businesses
business as usual. They're basically saying, hey, it'll be less of paying

(29:37):
the ans if you get the shot. And I mean, like, look,
I'm sure, dude, it's theNFL. Those guys are humongous at
weights that are not normal. I'msure some of them have medical conditions that
would exclude them to where their doctor, their personal doctor, even a team
doctor. Was like, from alegal standpoint, I wouldn't stick to vaccine

(29:57):
in them. We just don't knowyet. Okay, fine, But if
the NFL says, okay, wellhere's the deal. Unless you have a
valid medical reason that we can bebacked up by more than just your doctor,
h then you sit out until basicallyit disappears. And if COVID never
disappears, I guess you never playedin the NFL again. Huh. I

(30:18):
mean that's that's that's the true freedomthere right these people is though, how
long? How how long doctor DeAndreHopkins? How long is it going to
take for you to finally accept?I mean it's we're to the point where
the FDA is about the emergency useis about to go away, and normal
use is about to come and doit like it's how much time needs to

(30:40):
elapse? We're almost a year into sticking these into people's arms. But
that's he can still be sitting herethree seasons from now going. I don't
know, dude, it's been threeyears. I guess an exactrifices career.
I mean, dude, that's basicallywhat we're talking about. Once again,
we're right back to where we were. We we're talking about the the character

(31:02):
makeup of these athletes these days ofwell, I'm standing by our principles.
Were good for you? There's consequencesand if and here's the deal, if
you're willing to change your principles,then were they really a principle? Was
this something to live your life?Bier? Was there a suggestion? I
mean it, well, I gota family, take care of don't get
a job. There's plenty places letyou work without the job. I'm reminded

(31:23):
of a scene in thirty Rock.I don't know if you guys ever watched
it. Alec Baldwin's talking to TracyMorgan, and Tracy Morgan is a disgraced
at the time, He's a disgraced, falling movie star, you know,
like he was a list at onepoint. He's fallen the C list.
They're at some kind of charity event. Now, Alec Baldwin says, Hey,
what did you say to the presidentof Paramounts. I told you she

(31:44):
can kiss my ass. He's like, what did you say to the president
of Universal? I told she suckedmy black dick or whatever. He's like,
well, how's that working out foryou? That's where I get to
a point with a lot of thesepeople, like a lot of these people
who like just refused. They alwaystake a stand about everything, and I
never changed my mind. And youknow, generally if you ask them how
things are going in their life,it's it's they they they kind of have

(32:07):
the life of somebody who like it'sjust refusing to be flexible. At some
point, you're going to be dealingwith a whole bunch of consequences that come
with being like that. There's areason there's audibles at the line in football.
There's a reason the military trains youfor combat by teaching you to improvise,

(32:28):
overcome and adapt or improvise, adaptovercome. See what I'm saying,
Like, these aren't just mottos thatare on fucking stickers on the back of
people's trucks. This is what youfucking do. And you're a professional athlete
and you can't understand that you younever change your mind. This is see
to me, this is this isthe privilege of being an athlete who's been

(32:52):
picked out and singled out from thecrowd as someone who will go far and
all the trappings that come with thatcup with as a society, your truth,
your truth, and who am Ito question your truth? So never
mind the truth. Yeah, factsdoesn't our feelings don't care about your facts.

(33:14):
This is the world we live in. Now. You don't like it.
You should have done something. It'stoo late. Now you're not locking
that fucking barn door. The horsesare gone, they're glue and they're in
dog food. They're not coming back. Get used to it. So this
is what we got to look forwardto. I'll tell you what I guarantee
you. I know that that theratings for television sports shit is can be

(33:39):
fudged because they'll say, oh,well, streaming online was huge and blah
blah blah and all this bullshit.But let this ship keep up and watch
the ratings fucking drop for the nextfucking Olympics. I mean, the NBA
ratings are down the last two seasons. Last year, Oh it's coronavirus.
Okay, fine, cool, there'syour one. What about this year?

(34:01):
Like the year they were down overdown, they had a regular season.
This year in a sense, theyonly started like a month later than they
would have started. Well, Imean, if that's the case, then
I I don't know. I guessthese people better start learning to live with
a little bit less money in theirpocket. I mean, hell, you
could argue that finals went long,the season win as long as it should
have went, because it's what thefinals were, damn near and ended on

(34:22):
the fourth of July. They usuallyend at the beginning of June. You
know, sports you Qustopher media dotnet. Qustopher media dot net. Sports
you is it the vaccine the sameas feeling as far would be as far
as a wedge issue, just it'sa the NFL is a company. What

(34:45):
they say goes you want to kneeland support you know whatever, you want
to support. Well, that's toodamn bad. We're not allowing him.
You you want to play for usto you know, this season, you're
taking the vaccine. Don't take thevaccine. You don't play well. I
mean it looks like if you ifyou look at the dudes, the wind
that is blowing that way for alot of things. I think we might

(35:07):
see that coming up. Here wereall of a sudden, all these people
who are like people in companies andlike, yeah, I don't know,
I don't know everything. Nope,you want to fucking work here. You
gotta get this, and you havethis amount of time. I'm not saying
this is what's going on. I'mjust saying I think that this is how

(35:28):
the ship will play out. Ifwe go back, If we go back
to some sort of oh shit,we're beating off the news with COVID new
and COVID infections and deaths and it'sthe unvaccinated. Okay, then yeah,
and we go back to like maskmandates and a couple states locked down,

(35:50):
there will be man, you youbelieve me, I don't know how at
that point in this country with thepeat with what over fifty percent of the
population already got one JAB and oversixty three percent of the population already have
are fully vaccinated, like or yeah, and fifty three percent of them have
one JAB. So yeah, sookay, so yeah, yeah, I

(36:13):
was right. I just set itbackwards. I'm saving it for gen exhausted.
But motherfucker, like, I didwhat you told me to do.
I didn't get COVID last year.I went and got the shot. I'm
not getting COVID Now. Why doI am? I gonna have to put
a fucking mask back on because abunch of other assholes won't do what they're

(36:34):
supposed to do. Fuck you?This time I will. I will walk
around with my bare ass face andmy middle fingers. In the year,
I will staple my vaccine card tomy fucking shirt. Fuck you? Why
do I have to? Why doI have to suffer because a bunch of
other assholes don't want to play bythe rules. That goes back to the
one is guilty because of the many. Now Here's here's my point of bringing

(36:54):
that up. Is, if that'sthe way in this country looks like it's
going. You know, it's gonnago that way with the NFL. The
NFL is going to make their money. And I think last year that they
they proved that we can weather thisshit just fine. Like it's not it's
not perfect, but it's better thannothing. It's better than a fucking what
fifty three or whatever the sixty gameseason and MLB played. You know,

(37:19):
it's better than the truncated seasons othersports had. They had a full fucking
season and at like there was afew fucking scare moments where it's like,
oh shit, there's the whole leaguegonna come do an it to a grinding
halt for a week or two Titan, everybody gets a buy looking at two
assholes. Yeah, but train kepta rolling baby all night long. I

(37:40):
mean, you know, commerce man, it always comes back to money that
that money. Train was not goingstep. Do you how much fucking money
they make every year? Of course, we talked about it every year.
There's no way they were they werethey were they were looking at the NC
double A and going, fuck youassholes, We're we're figuring this out.

(38:00):
We're the NFL. It was likethat, they're they're John Lennon team,
we're bigger than Jesus or they're Denzelscreaming King Kong. Ain't got nothing on
me, all right, whatever,I mean, Like, at this point,
we've pretty much we've we've covered allthe speculation unless something out of left
field comes and none of us hasfucking thought of. Whatever it is,

(38:22):
what it is with the vaccination inthe NFL, They're gonna do what they're
gonna fucking do because they're gonna makesure that money keeps coming in. They're
not going to shut down. They'renot going to I don't give a fuck.
If Mahomes refuses to take the shot, they'll be like, you're about
to find out you are the faceof the NFL, but you're not bigger
than the shield. Blah blah.There'll be someone else to be more than

(38:45):
happy to step up and become thenumber one player in the league with that
spot won't be vacant for long.And that's just the truth. It's just
the truth of the situation. That'swhy it's like all the pearl collection and
hand ringing. Then I'll boycott.Okay, Well, if you look,
first of all, if you've hungon through all this shit and you ain't

(39:06):
boycotted them yet, you ain't gonnaboycott them, Shut the fuck up.
Yeah. Second of all, whatthe fuck does that matter? You understand
the boycott's to make you feel betterabout you waking up in the morning,
putting your feet in your fucking shoes, and going on about your day.
If it does something, if itactually has the intended effect, that's gravy
on the mashed potatoes, baby.But you can't expect it. Hey,

(39:27):
you don't even expect the pat ofbutter your chives on the motherfucker's even nothing.
You've got mashed potatoes. That's that'swhat your boycott does. So even
if you do boycott it, whatthe fuck are you accomplishing besides making yourself
feel better? And if that's whatyou're out for, more power to you.
Looks like you got an A plus. But you ain't changing the world,
and you ain't change in the NFLbecause the NFL does not give a
fuck. This ain't about right,This is not an issue they have to

(39:51):
tiptoe around. They start losing moneybecause they have to shut down franchises,
they will start booting players from theNFL. Yeah, end the story.
If you don't think they they will. You haven't been paying attention to the
NFL. Rog is gonna get paida lot, a lot. They generate

(40:12):
more than a lot of fucking uhsmall countries. There are countries where that
have a smaller GDP than the NFL. I mean, shit, California has
got what more than what the bottomhalf GDP is more bottom fifty percent of
countries in the world. So yeah, I mean it's like the sixth largest

(40:36):
economy in the world, I believe. Yeah, so put reallyway since we're
on the NFL. Oh and hopefullywe can wake we can wake Ice up.
It's about that time. Well we'regetting their training cancer in this week.
I know and and and who showedup a packers training camp. My
balls are tingling a a ron youmade it? Oh you lost the bad

(41:00):
Ice. Well he didn't due Brettwas never on because he's a packer.
Yeah, he didn't go to theSaints. I mean until last week.
I was screaming the whole time,like we'd know by now. But I
mean that story last week about himturning down all that money, I was
like, yo, Jesus, hesaid, fuck you. Maybe that was
just maybe all that's was just astory because he showed up. He's there,

(41:22):
he's taking reps. They let BlakeBortles go. What the fuck was
Blake Bortles ever gonna do? Philla roster spot exactly one the bench.
That's it. Fuck out of here, Blake Board. Did you did burn
lambeau Field down? It's probably theremore to mentor Jordan Love. I was
gonna say, man like man,but at that point, like, what's

(41:45):
fit mad? What's Fit's magic doing? Where he's got to be close to
retirement? But no, he's ona roster somewhere. I saw it the
other day. Oh Ston Washington.Okay, all right, well, okay,
here's my question. Rogers comes back. Yeah, there's much cheering and
rejoicing and fucking Lambo or wherever thefuck? Um, what the fuck was

(42:08):
this about? Because it wasn't aboutmoney, obviously, Chris she already brought
that up. If it was agrab for power within the organization, I
think he did more damage to himselfas far as his legacy with that organization
than anything. He damn sure didn'tget any power out of the situation.

(42:28):
It's about that play man. I'mtelling you, he did not want he
wanted to call another play and Iplay that made them uh uh? Would
they missed the playoffs or they losttheir playoff game? So you think it's
so That's what I'm saying. Likenow, if it's that type of control
and a powers that grab he wasgoing for, we won't know. He
wasn't by control, I mean didn'thasn't. Tom Brady revealed like he fucking

(42:52):
changes the play all the time,like he has that that luxury. Yeah,
but at the same time, healso fucking gets you know, his
coach gets on fucking every interview andis like you can ask anybody on the
team, I don't even fuck he'sTom Brady. He fucks up. He
gets yelled at just like everybody else. So I don't know. I mean
maybe because his resume, he hascarte blanche to do it, but tom

(43:14):
Brady because maybe, I mean hedid come from he did come from the
Patriots. I'm sure Bill Belichick,Donaldichick was there before Tom Brady was Tom
Brady, you know what I'm saying, Like they made their bones together,
but he was always the head coach. I'm pretty sure that he's like get
used to getting yelled at, beingtold you know you fucked up. Don't

(43:35):
do that again. I don't know. See Aaron Rodgers, it's like,
dude, yeah, you're great,You're a Hall of Famer all that shit.
How many championships have you won?One? I'm sorry, Willie Beaman?
Why are you changing the plays inthe huddle? You know what I'm
saying? Like, what the fuck? What? Who the fuck are you?
Who died? Made you offensive coordinate? In his defense, you do

(43:58):
a job for so long at ahigh level, at some point you gotta
be like, hey, I knowwhat I'm doing. No, I'll get
you your touchdown, I'll get youyour first down. Like, trust me,
I've done this a few times,been here a little bit. Yeah,
No, you're right. And seethat's the thing, like we don't
know the level of bullshit going onback there, Like maybe and women,

(44:20):
hasn't this been an issue with AaronRodgers and previous head coaches and coaching regimes
like him budding heads with them aboutplay calling and his ideas. I mean,
isn't it the whole Mike McCarthy issuewhen that whn't that part of it?
So maybe he fancies himself as somesort of fucking like you know player,
coach or something. And let's behonest here, NFL coaches, head

(44:43):
coaches, got head coach, NFLhead coach egoes, and only fuck you're
the quarterback. They've been there.I mean, I'm just put yourself in
their mindset, motherfucker. I wascoaching before you were born, and I'll
be long. I'll be coaching longafter you retire. Thank you for your
little fucking twelve short ears of experiencein the NFL. I'm good. And
if that's the case, then maybeit's he's going to have a problem pretty

(45:07):
much wherever he goes, unless hewalks into a situation where they just go
unzip your fly and gag me withit as hard as you can, because
I seriously, dude, who thefuck what respectable NFL head coach gonna let
Aaron Rodgers walk in, whip hisfucking junk out, set it on his
fucking forehead and be like, I'mthe one call on the shots here because

(45:28):
it's essentially and obviously it's not literallygoing to happen. We all know that's
essentially what he's doing. This issome fucking alpha male, alpha pack you
know, pack leader bullshit going on, and it seems like Aaron Rodgers is
always in the middle of it,which makes me think that either he's insecure
and he doesn't think he's he hasrespect, or he's just a real big

(45:51):
asshole and a dumb ass. Yeah, and he happens to prepared, and
you know what I'm saying, Like, and there's a control freak streak in
there, and the coaches are like, just shut up and throw the balls.
That's really all you're good for.Maybe the choice and ladies. He
has no control in his personal life, so he wants it all on the
field. Well, I mean,dude, here's I think. I think

(46:12):
back to a story about the Coltsand their playoff run or their Super Bowl
run two thousand and six, andthey were talking to Manning and I believe
it was the Patriot game in theplayoffs, and they were like, we
gotta get in the end zone.We gotta get in the end zone.
So they're in the huddle and PeytonManning's like like the third wide receiver on

(46:34):
the depth charts, telling him youknow, hey, blah blah blah blah
blah blah, I can get open. He's like, yeah, okay.
If Reggie has a suggestion, I'lllisten to him, you know what I'm
saying, Like you ain't Reggie Waynebro you know. And Marvin fucking Harris
comes over and he's like like inthe fuddle and he's like, hey,
I think we should run it,and fucking Jeff Saturday He's like, yeah,
yeah, yeah, He's like thewhole offensive lines like that's music to

(46:57):
our ears. Let's do it.He's like, fucking you know, they're
not expecting that with you under center, man, He's like, let's do
it now. That's a wide receiverwho wants to win. Yeah, he
wants to win more than he wantsto dance in the motherfucking end zone.
That might be what Aaron Rodgers isn't. Aaron Rodgers might want to dance in
the end zone an't too much.It's supposed to be collective glory, not
personal glory boom, because there's gotto be something here man, that we're

(47:22):
not we're not hearing about. Therehas to be I mean, he is
first too good to only have onering. You watch a guy play football,
he like the fact that he onlyhas one ring blows my mind absolutely
and his entire I mean, likejust for let's let's hit rewind for a
second. Go back to draft,his draft day, His entire NFL career

(47:43):
started with him being the laughing stockof the NFL. Like he dropped in
that draft and he was in NewYork, and every time a draft pick
was taken, they'd show that draftpick for ten seconds and then they cut
right to Roger's face. So youknow every time time, oh, you're
projected to go here, Nope,you're projecting Nope, Nope, nope,

(48:04):
that cameraman's just sitting there three feetaway from him, fucking the unblinking eye
in his fucking face. His ego, He's proven this over the years.
His ego that pissed him off.He wanted blood. So if he's that
type of guy, he could getin there, and if he's that type
of hothead guy, that could coulddefect his decision making. And why would

(48:24):
you trust a guy like that tocall fucking plays. I'm not saying they
shouldn't have. Obviously the play didn'twork. They didn't, they didn't fucking
whatever, they didn't make the playoffsor win the game, whatever, But
you have to take that into consideration, and I'm just like, there's too
much smoke to be no fire something. What is his flaw? What is
it that makes people not listen tohim? I mean, that's that's what

(48:45):
I wanted, all right, nobodyelse Okay, No, well, I
mean that's that's well. I meanthere's that, and then it's like,
I mean, dude, what else? He jumps from relationship to relationship.
These broad's getting his life and fuckingfrom every fucking story I've read about it,
every relationship he's been in. Theystart telling him what to do and

(49:05):
what's what and where's what, andhe just falls right in the line.
So maybe he's super fucking needy.I don't know. I mean it's public
persona. He's very likable. Yeah, they've made sure of him in all
the right commercials, and he saysall the right things when he's got a
mic on him, like, hedoesn't seem like an asshole. He can
definitely laugh at himself, which ismost most asshole athletes. That's their big

(49:30):
blind spot. They cannot laugh atthemselves. He didn't laugh at himself.
Get some of the better commentary inthat match, that golf match a month
ago with him and Brady and andBryson and Phil Shy host he hosted Jeopardy.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I mean, like Johnny United
didn't host Jeopardy, Joe Joe Namathanhost Jeopardy. I'm surprised he went up

(49:52):
there. At one point, I'vebeen like, I finally do something Tom
Brady didn't besides his wife buzzing.I'm serious, I'm surprised he didn't just
drop something like that because it's like, you got Tom Brady. First of
all, Tom Brady in orders Jeopardyas far as the game show should probably
never be in the same sentence,because I just football Jeopardy, maybe maybe

(50:15):
Jeopardy about giving your child creepy kissesin the mouth. He would win that
shit, he'd be Grand Champion.Like Tom just seems like a football robot.
He's very good what he decided hewas going to be very good at
and he's like, this has gotme through life. Good. The Adam
Carolla Show, one of his sidekickswent to high school with Tom Brady and
it said, well, he isa nice guy. He was not too

(50:37):
bright, and my buddy, whoplayed in high school against Mashie Wallace,
was like, stone stupid. It'sa good, good thing. He could
play fucking basketball stone stupid. He'slike, and like, it's not ignorant,
it's stupid. You can't fix it. I'm just like, damn,

(50:59):
but something got to be sacrificed.If you're really good at something, then
huh yes, what's like? Yeah, like I know I could. I'm
fairly decent at guitar. But mein sports, I'm a spectator. Like
even at golf, I love toplay golf. I am shitty at golf.
Youven golf be in hockey, Ihave one round under one hundred in
my life. I still have thescorecard fucking if I'm breaking a hundred,

(51:24):
Like that's just how it's going.Oh god, all right, so can
we wake Earl up? Earl?Lebron talked about your mom. Go,
no, I was gonna say.I was gonna say because this is this
something you had a lot to sayin the group chat about. So let's
see if you're boisterous about it today. Aaron Rodgers had stated many times then

(51:52):
he didn't what he stated many timeswhy he doesn't want to be a packer.
They traced all of his weapons.They don't draft anybody for him to
throw to or play with or protecthim, and I agree with both of
those statements. Um, when pushcomes to shove, they didn't put the
ball in his hand in the playoffgame. There's so many different reasons he

(52:15):
doesn't want to be there. He'sgetting old to win again. Okay,
that's yeah, great, wonderful.Yeah he didn't. Not only did they
not drafft anybody to help him win, they drafted somebody to replace him.
So he's basically looking at the Packersgoing, fine, let Love be your
new fire for your new Rogers,get me the fuck out of here,

(52:37):
and they're like, well, no, we need you for a couple more
seasons. Fuck you, I onlyhave a couple more seasons I want to
win. Okay, thank you forthe insight into what's going on in there
in Roger's mind. O. Wait, that wasn't the question I was going
to ask you. But sure,we'll run with it for another five minutes
and then in ten minutes you'll hearwhat I just said, so we'll be
good. But that still doesn't answermy question. Why has two different head

(53:01):
coaches and their regimes and an ownershipnot trusted Aaron Rodgers enough to do all
these things for him that he askedfor. What about him makes them go,
no, we're not gonna listen tohim. Is every is it?
Hold on? Is it everybody acrossthe board in Green Bay? Is it

(53:22):
a case of they're the smartest peoplein the room constantly? Because if that's
the case, that makes a lotof sense. If it's his age,
Okay, explain his career because he'sbitched that he's never had these things,
he's never had the weapons that otherpeople have had that I've read the op
eds that say all that, Iagree with you guys on the ship we're
talking about. But what about therest of his career. Why weren't they

(53:44):
listening to him? Then it wasn'this age, Then the rest of his
career he had a hell of adefense. Okay. So basically they drafted
Aaron Rodgers and said, we're goingto ignore you until we can ignore you
because you're old enough to ignore.Because our defense is going to carry us.
The people like the Packers, theythey're a long term decision type of

(54:05):
people, like with Bret Fire.Bret Fire really didn't have a whole bunch
of weapons either, But between theweapons he did have and the defense they
put on the other side of theball. The Packers were a great team.
Exact same thing with Rogers. He'sa great quarterback. Put some decent
people with him, put an amazingdefense on the other side of the ball.

(54:25):
Boom, Lombardi now is now passing. We got to think long term.
Okay, so we got love,We're gonna put a couple of people
with him. We got to getback to our defense. See what you're
describing isn't isn't a team that's tryingto win a Super Bowl every year.
You're describing as a team who's tryingto stay one of the elite teams who

(54:45):
are in the hunt every year,win one per what what once every ten
years. And I'm happy and ourfucking branding stays at the top of this
fucking NFL heat. Right, that'sokay, Hey, that makes sense,
Okay, thank you? All right? Cool? Um? Yeah? Probably

(55:07):
not Yeah, now you put itthat way, I'm sure. I still
just think there's gotta be something else, though, Man. I just and
I'm not saying it's it's Aaron Rodgersfault. I'm not saying that. Like,
maybe ownership does empower these head coaches, be like your yours is the
word of God. We don't carewho says anything against you or what requests

(55:28):
you're made of you. And that'sthe case. It's working for him.
I mean, Greena makes money lotssomething too. Maybe it's ownership going fuck
you were the Packers. Could justbe ownership being big. Maybe they've just
been like you, you know,fuck you. You'll be gone in ten
years and we'll get a new one. We're the Packers, will always be

(55:51):
the Packers. You'll only be youfor however long we need you. And
maybe he knows that attitude, andmaybe this is just him rubbing back against
it because he knows he's getting nearthe end. Maybe that's what I'm saying.
Not everybody ends on a graceful note, and they could have conducted themselves
with an impeccable grace during their career. Some people have to be shown the

(56:12):
door at the end of the night, like they just If not, you're
gonna wake up the next morning andthey're gonna be sitting up watching your TV
still drinking from the night before.I know I've been that guy still the
current MVP. Yeah, But like, like here's the thing. Either cut
bait with them or listen to theman and by the way, in the

(56:34):
world of sports, listening means umactually putting, not just listening as we
listen to each other in the realworld, putting some something real behind the
nods and them and the thoughtful chinstrokes while they're talking, which means get
him some fucking weapons. I mean, he put that pile of shit on
his shoulders last year. That's whyhe got the MVP. I mean,

(56:54):
he's got Davante Adams, who's goodwhen he's healthy. That's his problem.
You know, Aaron Jones seems tobe a thing. But I mean other
than like Green Bay again, whowho have been there? Who has been
the dominant name in the Green Bayconversation for the last fifteen years. Aaron
Rodgers. That's it. They don'tgive him anybody. I'm with him on
that. They don't give them weapons. If they do, they get rid

(57:15):
of them. So then basically whatwe're getting into is that Green Bay is
a better than average but not eliterun franchise. They are happy with being
their bottom level of the top tierof a franchise in the NFL. Uh
run their running. Their run gamehas been the run. The game was

(57:37):
ship When they won the championship.They just they will. They will take
average or lower at running back forhim. They want Green Bay wants to
win it in the air. Okay, well that yeah, then that makes
sense. But I mean, onceagain, ownership thinking long term. Okay,
I get that. A head coach, here's the thing, what are
you thinking long term about? Ifyou don't win with Aaron Rodgers already won

(58:00):
with Aaron Rodgers? Dude, what'ssuper bowled their head coach right now?
Win with Aaron Rodgers? Anyways?Saying you don't win with Aaron Rodgers exactly.
If you don't win with Aaron Rodgers, don't plan on being in Green
Bay for long because guess what.The owners may agree that you're you're the
BMOC, you're the big man oncampus, but ultimately you don't win,

(58:22):
you cost them money, you gobye bye. They don't give a fuck
about you enough to keep you thereto run at a loss. Answers all
there is to it, period,end the story. So I don't get
the attitude. That's what I'm saying. Like to me, there's something more.
Maybe it'll come Maybe it'll come outlater. I don't know. Maybe

(58:42):
he's gotta fucking gamble in habit.Who the fuck knows these days, Jesus
Christ. And here's the deal,Like we just talked about for the first
hour of the show, bro,if you do like to like fuck transsexual
midgets, just come out and takea mental health day about it and you'll
be fine. Right, No onecares these day. No one cares that
they're trans, No one cares thatthey're a midget. No one cares that
you're fucking them. No one's gonnareally care about your mental health day except

(59:06):
for packers, fans and people whoalready bet when Vegas moves the line,
that's it. Eddie Murphy and HughGrant. They'd be heroes in twenty twenty
one, Stunning and brave together,Ebbdy and Ivory together. Christ. Sorry,
I stepped on your joke there.Sorry to add it to it.

(59:30):
All right. So what I wasgoing to ask Earl before we got sidetracked
for another ten minutes was carry pricegoing to the fucking Blackhawks? Or not
not carry price? Excuse me,not carry price, excuse me, goddamn
Flora going to the Blackhawks. Soyou had a lot to say about it
in the in the uh in achat, here's a chance, Go ahead,

(59:53):
bro, I think he's going tomake the Golden Knights pay for trading.
Didn't he do it to pick?Did he did to? The following
season Pittsburgh was like, okay,you want to you wanna Stanley Cup thanks
By? I was like, really, he went right back that year He

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didn't. He didn't win a Cup, but yes, he did go to
the Cup finals in the in thefirst year of the franchise. That that
picks him an expansion draft. Well, he's he's getting up there in age,
and speculation is if he has anyhe doesn't want to stay for a
rebuild. He doesn't want to putall the way the last few ounces of

(01:00:35):
hockey he has between the pipes fora team it's rebuilding. I understand that
if Chicago thinks that this is aretool, like a like an offseason retool,
reload, come back out and getback into the contention thing with him,
They're gonna have to convince him ofthat. I really truly believe that.
But I do agree with you ifhe's still if he's pissed off at

(01:00:57):
Vegas, oh boy, because heseems like that type of guy. He
needs that chip on his shoulders andhe's been given plenty of opportunity, Like
you said, man, dude,he won a cup and he was showing
the door. And by the way, he wasn't shown the door for like
the next great Pittsburgh goalie either,like he wasn't. Well, you know,

(01:01:19):
you've thank you for your time,thank you for mentoring this goalie.
But he used the goalie of thefuture. We're gonna move on. No,
they left him unprotected in an expansiondraft. That's why I said carry
price, because they did the samething in Montreal this year. But Kracking
didn't take him anyways, and hewent to Vegas and believe me, he
and had to fucking weigh on him, like, oh, you guys just

(01:01:40):
gonna throw me away, all right, bet let me yea. So well,
I'm looking at it like if hestill has the fire to play,
thank you for pissing off. Everyteam in that division's going thank you for
pissing him off. Make sure theyhe's gonna play with that chip on the
shoulder, assholes. Look, atthe end of the day, whoever is

(01:02:07):
on the ice, you know,the defenseman, winger, center, whatever.
It's great to have goal scores,but at the end of the day.
If you have a badass netminder,it really doesn't matter who's on the
ice. You know you got agreat chance of coming out of there with
w You can have a gold againstaverage. It starts with a decimal.
It can be a wall. Ifyou got a Stanley Cup winning goalie with

(01:02:30):
something to prove, and whether heneeds it or not, a chip on
his shoulder and he's pissed. Yeah, I mean, you don't really need
an amazing all star hockey team togo far at that point? Why they
in any sport? A guy whoknows how to win at a high level
with a chip on a shoulder havefun, you know. Exhibit A.

(01:02:51):
This guy who's down in Tampa Bayright now, he's a quarterback. You
might have heard of him. Letme go, huh, all right,
cool, I'm gonna go to Floridawhere all check or is it Brady here?
Let me show you something. I'mgonna go to Florida where all old
people retire to, and I'm gonnawhoop your fucking ass. I'll make you
regret getting rid of me. Well, I look, I think you have

(01:03:15):
to remember Scotty Bowman's son has gothis fingers all in the Blackhawks. Pie
like it and believe me, Dad, can I get some advice? I'm
sure that's happened once for fact,still with us? Yeah, as far
as I know, if Scott,if Scotty Bowman died and I didn't hear

(01:03:36):
shit about it, true, wewould have talked about it. You know
what I'm saying, like, Bro, but what is hockey town office center
ice? At the fucking I wasabout to say the Joe, but you
know what I'm saying, like,no, get that out of here.
We don't longer deserve that. That'shorrible. What's wrong with us? Seven?
Wow? Ain't young hockey players good? Cardio? Bro? They last

(01:03:57):
forever? And you know the motherfuckersdrink and smoke, especially from back in
the day like chimneys and sailors onleave. Bro. But anyways, Bowman
knows how you build a hockey teamat least okay, of the three listeners
we have and a one hockey fanthat listeners, he's probably gonna disagree with
me. But whatever it is,what it is, I feel. You

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build a hockey team from the netout. You get as solid a goaltending
as you can get, You builda defensive core, you want that goaltender
and his defenseman to have almost atelepathic level of communication, like as a
musician, you understand what I'm saying, nonverbal cues, a raise of eyebrow,
a tilt to the head, andeveryone knows right where we're going.

(01:04:41):
That's what they need to have.Then you get the core of your forwards
built and you can supplement with freeagency. And I think that that's what
Detroit was doing with their draft thisyear by drafting a goalie like they did,
but they've also drafted fucking hulking defenseman, which has always been a fucking

(01:05:02):
want here in Detroit. And Idon't think it's a coincidence that Eiserman came
to full maturation underneath Bowman, andBowman's got his fingerprints and Bowman and his
son had their fingerprints over this retoolrebuild whatever they're calling it in Chicago,
and that's how they're rebuilding the team. And if Fleury stays there, Chicago's
got a lot of salary cap issuesthat I'm not even gonna front neck like

(01:05:24):
I can get into the fucking minutiaand the high weeds on, but I
know that they're gonna have issues,and I mean, they let they let
one of their youngest forwards go,and because if I'm correct, it was
because of cap issues. Instead ofbeing a restricted free agent and getting something
back when he signed, they hadto make him an unrestricted free agent and

(01:05:47):
Detroit picked him up for a fuckingsong. And he's twenty five, and
it's like, you don't get upand coming players unrestricted free agents, no
strings attached at twenty five, andthe NHL hardly anymore. It just doesn't
have happen. So, I mean, they got issues. As far as
the rebuild, Gloria sticks through thoseissues. Yeah, I guess it's I
guess it's a good move. Butif he fucking just retires or he says

(01:06:10):
fuck it, I'm done, orgives it one season and it just goes
into the tank, what do youdo then? So, yeah, to
me, you better make sure youtalked to him before you made that fucking
call to get him on your team. I would have wanted to, which
is something I don't know if weever talked about. Do we know that
if these teams that are trying toacquire guys, if they even talk to
the fucking players like beforehand, arethey allowed to or is that consider tampering.

(01:06:35):
I mean, it's it's I don'tknow the rules in the NHL.
I mean, are the rules differentin every league? That's what I'm saying.
I get that there's no hard andfast, but I mean, like,
if you're trading for a guy likein the NBA, we used to
hear about signing trades all the time, Well, the player had to know

(01:06:57):
that he was signing and basically inwith another team even though he was signing
the extension with this team, becausehe was being traded. I mean,
that's part of why it's a signand trade. So I mean, I
can't imagine if you're gonna trade aguy like if you're gonna if you're gonna
try to acquire a guy like likeFleury, you want to make sure he's
going to play for you, right. You don't want to bring him here
and then have a Jake Plummer situationwhere he just retired because he's like,

(01:07:23):
I ain't playing for you anymore.No, I ain't playing for this team.
That's what Ground was gonna do whenthey threatened to send him to fucking
Detroit. Detroit. Yeah, it'snot unheard of, especially these days.
So yeah, I don't know.So Okay, here's my question for you,
mister goaltender. What do you thinkabout fucking Seattle not taking price?
I mean, did they see somethingthat they don't like? Well, supposedly

(01:07:45):
he's injured, but I mean,in the world of hockey, you know,
uh, so and so is gonnasit out this game? Why he's
injured? What's his injury? Upperbody injury? Do tell me anything?
You know what? There you go, dude, Seriously, if if,
if, if, it's going towhether we wanted to or not, Once

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it becomes like the vast majority,it's socially acceptable to use that as an
excuse, teams will start using thatbecause they won't have to give out where
the person's injured. They'll be like, oh, he's got mental health issues.
He has to take like five daysoff. It's crazy. Yeah,
Like, no, you're sure it'snot his sort sore throwing shoulder. No,

(01:08:26):
no, no, his dog died. He's had a bad day.
So yeah, it's a little much. Took an l last week. He
needs so we're gonna yeah, whenwhen precious died, we gotta give him
five days. So yeah, soit's gonna miss two starts, Yes,
yes, yes, but it's notdue to his injured I mean, is
not injured showing throwing shoulder shoulder.Yeah, no, dude, I could

(01:08:47):
totally see that. You're absolutely right. Mental health day, That's all you
have to say. Now, justlike everything else in the world, they'll
be able to get away with it. You think we can get away with
that, walk into our jobs andbe like, I gotta go home.
I'm having a bad mental health day. What's it right now? It depends
where you work us right now.No, But it's becoming a thing.
It really is. Is these millennialsget older like the old ones crossed forty

(01:09:12):
I believe last year. This year, it really is becoming a thing.
Brave new world folks. I mean, And here's here's the deal. As
long as you we are isolated herein the US with sports that we really
watch because they're not I mean,hockeys as much of an international sport as
we get. But to be like, honest, we're full of shit because

(01:09:34):
everybody's world champions, but we don'tplay anybody but other cities from the same
country. You know what I'm saying. Like, and I get it,
we're bringing people from all over theworld, but motherfuckers are coming from other
fucking countries to play football. Youknow what I'm saying, Like like not
many, but yeah, totally lostwhiles going with that. God damn it.

(01:09:55):
I'm plenty of people come from Europeto play in the NBA. Know
what I'm saying. I gotta talkingabout baseball and America. Well what I'm
saying exactly exactly, and then youlook at, okay, the people from
Europe, especially Latin America and baseball. Okay, I mean I count in
North America altogether. I know.I'm sorry my Canadian hockey fans. I
know you don't like being lumped inwith us fucking drunk, rowdy Americans below

(01:10:19):
you, but we share the samepiece of land. It's North America,
you know what I'm saying. Mexico'sNorth America too, And there's there's a
European style of play traditionally, anda North American style will play, and
European style plays definitely come in.But what I'm saying is, every four
years, hey, we can watchthe sports we want to watch. We

(01:10:41):
can do this and this and thatevery four years. If you're a sports
fan and we continue down this road, better get used to watching in the
Olympics every other country whooping our assbecause you know why they got that immigrant
mentality. They got that. Idon't they got that that Gardner Minshew mentality
number two is not an option.I haven't even taken a ship in a

(01:11:02):
week, Okay, Like that's thetype of mentality these motherfuckers. And they
come from places where they're you know, they have real problems, That's what
I'm saying. Like, oh,I don't want to give Corolla says it
all the time, like we wewere out of problems. We've now we
started inventing problems. We got itso good in this country. We've now
we we've invent we invent adversity.You know, the least masculine generation in

(01:11:26):
the history of this nation has decidedthat this nation's biggest issue is masculinity.
Not really, bro go talk tosomebody like thirty five and under and try
to guess what they're gay or not. Like I'm not, and I'm not
talking about the way they act.I'm talking about just effeminate traits are very
much more fucking prominent, not inthese days, from speech, the way

(01:11:50):
we carry ourselves. Everything. Also, dude, there's some bros that are
homosexuals that you didn't even know Imight be friends with one, you know
what, you undue? Man,Hey, we just got done playing playing
around of golf. What's you gonnado? We'll have a beer. What
you're gonna do? Second day?All right? We enjoyed that. Dude,
bro bro dudes that are into dudes. That's a thing now. But

(01:12:13):
all right, anyways, you doknow who the Craken did sign, right
who as their goalie? They tookthree in the draft, but go ahead,
uh Philip Gruber hip Rivers. Itwas Colorado Avalanche goalie signed with them.
Okay, well, good, goodfor them. Hold on there you

(01:12:41):
go, sports you Qustoper Media dotnet. Qustopher Media dot net. Sports
you all right? Well, movingon we do. We are coming up
here on well the trade deadline.I think it was yesterday, wasn't it?

(01:13:05):
When was it? I can't anyways? For baseball, yeah, it's
about that time. Yeah, yeah, and the big story I started breaking
late last night. This is isThursday as we're recording. This is gallow
to the Yankees, which is okay. Once again Texas being a feeder team
for the rest of the like aminor League team for the fucking rest of

(01:13:27):
the fucking rich teams in the league. Like, first of all, have
you guys even seen the fucking standings? The Yankees are not leading the division
by any fucking means. That's gonnaask, is this a play for the
playoffs or does this even matter?Okay, So Yankees are third in the
East, and I believe really Ican't. I can't get the wildcards standings

(01:13:54):
because they don't have them there reallyanyways, Yeah, they're third in the
East and they are eight and ahalf games behind the Socks, two and
a half behind the Rays. Yankeesare two and a half out of the
wild card right now, thank you. That's because yeah, because gay who
sports is apparently either not working orwhat but someone ain't working. Yeah,

(01:14:18):
they're behind Tampa, Oakland, Seattle. They're eight and a half out.
M what do they plan on notlosing a game for the next month and
a half? Your guest as goodas mine. But yeah, Yankees bats,
is that really what they needed?I mean, I'm just saying you

(01:14:38):
got Stanton and Judge a one twopunch. Most of the most coveted players
in your team are position players,and Max Scherzer's name is getting floated around
in trade talks. Now he hasa I mean, if I'm the Yankees,
it's like, I definitely have tomake that call. Right at least

(01:15:00):
got for Max Scherzer. Yeah,am I And yeah he hasn't no trade
close and yeah he can approve trades. But at a certain point you gotta
be like, uh so, howdo you feel about New York City?
Right? You know what I'm saying, Like, come on, man,
Well, maybe it's more about Texasthan New York because you look at Texas
is I mean, they're it's over, They're solid, last place, They're

(01:15:20):
twenty six and a half out.Nothing is happening for the Rangers this year.
Maybe maybe this was just some cuttingbait, freeing up some payroll for
next seat. Hey, we'll tryit again next year. Where you want
to go New York? All right? Cool? See you? I mean
I get it. You want toget you want to get value back for
players you're going to lose and notget anything back for anyways. What I
mean, I don't know. Atthe same time, I'm just like,

(01:15:42):
if I'm the Yankees, I'd wanta better pitching. That's what I would
worry about. I'd be working frompitching than than hit him. You have
Look, you're the Yankees. You'replay in a fucking band box. You
have the bats. If they're slumping, they're slumping. But you dance with
who brought you. You know,you add another bat, that's nice.
What are you trying to? Areyou trying to have put up football scores

(01:16:04):
every night? You think you're gonnawin a World Series that way? How
many fucking teams have won a WorldSeries with shit pitching like subpar pitching?
Honestly, not a lot in recenthistory, you know, And I know
the Spider Tack Ship and all thatand everything going on with that, and
blah blah blah blah blah, whateverdoesn't matter. The rules are the rules.
Everybody was cut off. They're checking, they're checking fucking every pitcher as

(01:16:27):
they come off the mound. Theycheck every closer before he goes on the
mound. Make sure he doesn't haveany foreign substances on his hands. Because
I know, I know Yankee fans, there's a whoa. We weren't doing
the shit that it wasn't banned untiljust what a month ago? Shut the
fuck up. If you're if yourteam. If your team you root for
was too stupid to take advantage ofthe rules, that's a damn problem.

(01:16:47):
I don't care. But everybody's onthe same fucking playing field. Now go
out and get pitching. I mean, and especially are you what are you
trying to build for? I mean, the Yankees seem to me, like
you look at the Yankees and youlook at their fucking record. They're four
games better than Tigers. Hey,that's their record, Okay, Like,
basically they're somewhat on par with Clevelandif you want, if you want a

(01:17:11):
central counterpart, they're like, they'relike Cleveland. If they were in a
central they would be right where Cleveland'sat. Literally, yeah, hey,
Tigers aren't last. How the helldid that happen? Because there's showing signs
of life and Tigers have a lotof young prospects, like top one hundred
young prospects. They have two inthe top ten. Rex Grossman, the
Cinderella story of the year. RexGrossman, outfielder. Oh yeah, he's

(01:17:38):
had a hot bat. Well,I mean, to me, I isn't
due the the he cooled Tigers Likehe was that early season guy that gets
hot and then cools off. No, yeah, no, no, it
wasn't show no Sean Kate. Ohdude, that was fucking Chris Shelton.
Yeah, that they go wrong guywith a got Yeah. We traded for

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Casey later in the year because SheltonShelton. They're like, no, I
can't have that. Sorry, bigred cool nickname, go away. Oh
there's another guy too, has that'sbeen doing it up for him. Yeah,
it's all these no names though,right, Like he said, it's
it's these younger guys that are comingup. This is what you want.

(01:18:23):
You want to build the core throughthe draft. You want to have that
fucking farm system that's sending up ona steady basis when needed guys to the
majors. I mean, that's whatI'm saying about. But dude, but
dude, was a Rule five pick. And if I'm half as sports fans
folks, if I'm correct and remembering, a Rule five is essentially a waiver

(01:18:45):
draft, and if you pick theguy up, you have to have him
on at least your forty man rosterfor the season. So, in other
words, you can't pick a guyup on a Rule five waiver draft and
put him down in the minors.He has to be on your major league
forty man roster and that's bad.And he's no one was expecting him to
do this, That's what I'm saying, Like, like, I get it.

(01:19:05):
I understand that he's cooled off,but he ain't cooled off that much
because his name's in the running fromRookie of the Year. I mean,
that's you can't be that cold andme and people talking about Rookie of the
year fucking and you're in the conversation, right, it's true. Oh you
said Rex Grossman, Robbie Grossman.Oh I do think his name is Rex
because Rex Grossman played full Oh that'sright, Yeah, that's right. He's

(01:19:29):
the fucking quarterback of the Bears.That I was like, why is that?
I'm like, it's right, butit's not. It's it's like a
Picasso in that not far enough awayto look beautiful, not close up enough
to see it from what it reallyis. Like, I don't know,
is that right? Let's see itthat who's the guy from Empire Records?

(01:19:50):
Is uh Kyle Gibson related to Curtain? I know he's a picture for Detroit.
Just wondering, all right, Solet's see here I'm looking, but
do all right? So ten homeruns, five triples, seventeen doubles.
Uh, he's batting two ninety five. That's nothing. Yeah, where's where

(01:20:14):
the full stat Why am I notseeing the full stats? Thank you?
Fourteen stolen bases. I mean he'sgot speed. He seems to have some
pop in his bat, the waythe way that he's being talked about locally
on on the on the shows thatif you listen to locally about the Tigers,
that you know they know what they'retalking about. He's kind of projected
to be like maybe a twenty twentyguy. Get your twenty home runs,

(01:20:38):
twenty stolen bases, you know,hit hit it into the gaps, basically
thinking like Brandon in when Brandon Ingewas at his best, like it not,
he was not hes not the exactsame type player. Excuse me,
he's bating two ninety five at home, he's beat in two seventy five.
All over, z ops is eightforty four, which isn't that's that's actually

(01:21:00):
it's pretty good. When I thoughtforty RBI's ten home runs, I mean
ten home runs whatever, forty irbiswith the team he's on, you have
to have someone in front of you. But get runs so true and the
early part of this season, Tigerslooked like Tigers in the last couple of
years. No, I'm sorry,I'm just digging for some fucking like some

(01:21:23):
silver lining in this because they're notin the basement. Yeah that that and
okay, they're showing me something.They know. Look, we're not gonna
win a division, there's no fuckingway, but we're not going down without
a fight. Now. They justthey just had a fucking horrible road trip.
But they've also been you know,like sweeping series or taking series that

(01:21:45):
no one was giving them, includingVegas odds on. That could be,
that could have been a blip.Now they're in down. You know what
I'm saying. That it was apeak. Now they're in a valley.
But hey, the higher the peaks, the more the more the average goes
up, you know what I'm saying. And so it's what the Yankees earlier
this year, Right, That's whatI'm saying. But I mean it for
all the fucking Boogeyman the Yankees arein a lot of people's minds. When

(01:22:09):
have the Yankees been a problem forthe fucking Tigers in our lifetime? Not
the eighties, for damn sure.I mean we beat them, but it
took a minute. Four games bestout of best of five. They won
the first one and then we wonthree in a row. We beat them
in twenty twelve or twenty thirteen,I can't remember. Also, I think
twenty twelve. I think I thinkwe whatever, fuck it. Fuck you.

(01:22:30):
If you had a problem with it, turn a turn off podcast.
But yeah, I think in twentytwelve we went through New York also,
But I'm just saying, like,oh, yeah, the nineties, Well,
the Yankees beat up on the Tigersin the nineties. First of all,
is the nineties. Everybody beat upon the Tigers. Second of all,
Yankees beat up on everybody in thenineties. That's not saying shit,
you know. So it's like,when have they really been in an issue?

(01:22:53):
Like I don't think they have thatmental block with the Yankees. That's
why they play them like they dothe team. It pishes me off.
Theers have the mental block with isthe motherfucking Kansas City goddamn Royals. They're
the thorn in the fucking side everygoddamn fucking time Man nineteen eighty seven,
two thousand and six fucking Oh anyway, sorry, go ahead. No love

(01:23:15):
for the Royals coming from rich dude. And here's the deal. I hate
that I have to hate the Royals. Who the fuck are the Royals?
Take away your World Series? Andfucking and in what twenty fifteen? Whenever
two thousand and fourteen, and anduh you're one in the eighties and George
Brett and who the fuck cares aboutthe goddamn Royals? Like nobody's nobody.

(01:23:40):
But there's the four in the DetroitTiger's side. We are talking about about
ICE's baseball team right now, mybaseball team, just because I live here
early. You claimed the Chiefs whenthey're winning, mister Lions fan, Okay,
but I didn't claim the Chiefs becausethere were winning. I claimed the
Chiefs because I had to disown theLions. Oh yeah, behold up,
time out. Because let's as someonewho's lived all over the count tree,

(01:24:00):
I can say this, especially backin the day before Internet, you couldn't
watch fucking your local teams if you'renot local. So I would watch Mets
games, I would watch Sabers games. I would watch Tampa Bay Lightning games
as long as they weren't playing theRed Wings as long as they weren't playing
the Tigers. Do you see whatI'm going with this? I was like,

(01:24:21):
good for you, you know whatI'm saying. But so is it
really dropping them or is it justshowing support for the local team as long
as it doesn't fuck with your preferredteam? Hey, the beer gets free
when people start winning in your town. That explains so much about where you
live. It really fucking does.What we're saying is if there's a free

(01:24:44):
beer in it for him, goRoyals. I'm just saying. They know
how to tailgate one of the loudestfucking stadiums in the in the league.
Yeah, yeah, they're like twelfthMan. What Yeah, hear yourself thinking,
narrowhead, your inner monologue is fuckedup. That's how log how loud
it is. How are they gonnastop people from doing the tomahawk chop?

(01:25:09):
They're gonna have races on TV forsixteen Sundays a year. They're just not
gonna show it on TV? Wouldyou still hear it? You can't help
it, I mean the whole Okay, Joe Buck will be doing what Joe
Buck does and here, oh youcan't. How you gonna stop that and
you're gonna hear that's a scusting display, susting act, just like when when

(01:25:34):
when when Moss fake Moon Lambo andMoss with a scouting Shut the fuck up,
Joe Buck, you and your fuckingnarrow wiener take your ass, fucking
douche bag. Anyways, what elsewe got all? He will never be
we're talking to about Joe Buck.We've reached that part of the it is

(01:25:59):
is is July. You know,it is an Olympics here, It's like
a much to talk about as faras fucking like what we usually we've been
hype Here's here's what I love.We've been hyped up for the un US
women's Olympic team. My body hasbeen ready for five years for them to
go in and steam roll and prisonrate and bank and curbstomp every fucking other

(01:26:25):
women's fucking hot soccer team and onthis planet and like all that taught and
you can't even back the ship upand some beautiful blots from in Switzerland.
I mean, all I got tosay is, Alex Morgan, if you're
so upset about your team's performance andyou find yourself in Highland, Michigan,

(01:26:47):
I will be more than happy tocomfort you. I'm just saying, yes,
yes, so the Pistons are gonnatake kid Hunt Cunningham. There we
go. I knew we were forgettingsomething about, well they better who the
fuck else are they gonna take?And what the fuck is the point of
trading down? Well, an alertcame across while we were talking during the

(01:27:09):
show that it's it's it's gonna happen. I ask you, who the fuck
is Kate number one pick in thefucking NFL or NBA draft? Yeah,
we got for you. Who's heplayed for? Where from do they win
the title this year? Who tightoff? Forget? It's March is nine
months ago? Feels like it anyway? All right, Well, I'm four,

(01:27:29):
No I I I'm not even gonnafront and act like I fucking know
enough about college basketball to to sayif this this prediction that I heard locally
is accurate or not. So I'lljust present it to you, you two,
and you two can fucking can schoolme on this ship. The way
that they broke it down on localsports talk was essentially this the top three

(01:27:57):
players in the in the draft thisyear, The consensus three players are gonna
go one, two, Three ofall three, Cunningham has the lowest ceiling,
but he's also realized the most ofhis potential at this point of the
out of all of them. Soif they draft him, they have to
understand he's going to get better,but it's not going to be a quantum

(01:28:17):
leap better, whereas the other guysare more season two seasons in Holy shit,
where the fuck? You know whatI'm saying. Locally, you know
who he is, but nationally,all of a sudden, where the fuck
is this guy been? Type situation? Your guys thoughts on that, because
I don't. I'm not even gonnafront neck like I can talk about it.
He's he's decent, he is whathe is. But yeah, it's

(01:28:40):
what you said, Richie. He'sat his where he's at, And you're
gonna wait a season or two foranybody else that you pick. But I
mean, anybody else that you pickwas coached and brought up by way better
coaching in college. There are somany more people to pick other than cuttingness.

(01:29:00):
So this is a win move.This is a win now move.
If you're Yeah, if you're Detroit, you're you're trying to build it today.
You're You're not waiting. Okay,I understand what you're saying. And
Detroit has the GM who he's notafraid to wheel and deal. At this
point, let's just be honest.Here's here's where I'm coming from. What

(01:29:23):
do you get by trading down?Okay, now you have to pick because
if you if you trade out ofthat those top three picks, that's like
from once again the experts, there'sthey're like, m that's where you get
into like some real gray area.You're you're not You're not picking someone who's
as close to a sure things aspossible. You're picking sixty sixty five percent

(01:29:46):
chance of being an impact player inthe NBA for double digits worth of years.
You know. If that's the case, what trading down? What does
it get him? Well, okay, you have draft capital, but it's
useless because you have no one tofucking draft. You can draft a bunch
of motherfuckers that you know. Ohokay, I got three first round picks,
but it's pick ten, pick youknow, seventeen, and pick thirty.

(01:30:10):
The fuck are you walking out withof any value versus the number one
overall pick. It just seems likeyou gotta take them, right, Yeah,
you just hear the Tom Brady storytoo much in the NBA. You
know, the guy who went inlike the sixth round. I mean,
once again, it's been explained tome like this for many by many people
over the years, and I'm justit's an aggregate of houses explained to me.

(01:30:33):
If I'm wrong, it's on me. But whatever. You know,
your draft lottery guys are pretty muchthis is how usually goes. Your draft
lottery guys or as close to shutthings or shut things as you can get
outside the draft lottery. In thefirst round, you're hoping for role players.
Second round, you're hoping for afucking miracle. You're basically going,

(01:30:56):
I'm throwing us at the wall andif it sticks, good. If it
doesn't, I was and counting outin anyways, And if that's the case,
what good he's trading down? TheNBA ain't nothing. Well, That's
what I'm saying. Right, Andthis draft, I mean, there's some
to be you know, holy shitabout, but there there's not a lot
um I think, uh probably forthe top ten are point guards. Kate

(01:31:23):
Cunningham is Worth is one of those. He's a six eight point guard from
Oklahoma State. He's a great size. But again, that's a winning move
today. Okay, um Evan EvanMobli is uh God damn Um. He's
a center and uh he's almost sevenfoot he's like, uh six ten,

(01:31:45):
six eleven. Uh, but wehave a center, so we don't need
him in Detroit. Me personally,if I was to draft this year,
I would go with Gonzaga, especiallyif they want to put weight guard.
They have a guy named Jail Sugs. That's where I would go. He's
six foot five, a little bitshorter, but so much more potential.

(01:32:10):
Problem is is you're gonna have tocoach him up a little bit. You're
gonna wait a little bit. So, I mean, it's on Detroit.
So I think it is interesting aboutwhat you're saying, is you say that
CAD's a win now move. Yeah. In the NBA, more so than
any of the other Big four sports, one guy can come in and change
the entire course of a franchise.We saw it with Lebron. Use your

(01:32:31):
arg it all the time, butyeah, yeah, use the argument you're
using for the Pistons to trade thenumber one pick and not take Cade.
For the Cavaliers in two thousand andthree to trade the number one pick and
not take Lebron because the Cavaliers weren'tready to win immediately. It did take
some fucking time. The NBA isvery different than the NFL. You can't

(01:32:58):
trade the number one draft pick andthe draft for enough to make it worth
it. Does that make sense?Yeah, that's you can't trade that pick
to make it worth it. Inthe NFL, you can't. In a
fucking heartbeat. You know, youget me the right receiver, the right
the right position player with you know, the right resume. Apps take the

(01:33:24):
first pick, Please take my secondpick, you know, depending on who
it is. In the NBA,you can't get that. Well, no,
because in the NBA, the waydraft equity works is you got to
trade up to get value. Inthe NFL, you can trade it down
and find value, right, youknow. I mean, granted, you
know, if there is a consensusnumber one pick and you have the number

(01:33:46):
one pick in the NFL and youneed that, you know he feels the
need, they're going to draft him. But I mean, yeah, I
get what you're saying with that,and if that's the case, I don't
understand your argument. Why trade Whatis the point if they're not going to
get value back for it, takethe best player available, which would the

(01:34:09):
consensus seems to be Kate Cunningham.If you can't give value for the pick
what you just said, you can'tin the NBA, No, I don't.
I don't think you can. Ithink they stick with their number one
pick, and man, it reallydepends on what they're trying to do right
now, it really if Now let'sjust because you do you know, Pistons

(01:34:30):
fans do have a wheeling dealing GMin that in that front office, and
you guys might know the answer thisquestion, because I sure in the NBA,
is it allowed? Could they draftKate Cunningham, sign him to a
max rookie contract and then trade himwith him never play in one game for
the Pistons. I mean, I'msure they could, but why would they?

(01:34:54):
I mean, I'm not talking todraft date trade. This is why.
Okay, they might be able toget or for Kid Cuttingham once they
draft him and another team's like,that was our final fucking or that's the
piece we want to build a round, or that's our final piece. Okay,
Well, now now you got tocome with high draft picks next year.

(01:35:14):
Plus some fucking people who do morethan just warm the bench. That's
how you might get value out ofit. Do you see what I'm saying?
You might get a not superstar,but a headliner type guy, and
some and and a couple of handfulof high draft picks over the next couple
you know, well, high draftpick. I wouldn't trade him for anything
less than a headliner and two fuckingfirst rounders. That's what I once I
have him drafted, that's minimum.And I want to know who you're trading

(01:35:39):
them for, you know what I'msaying, But they might they might be
able to drive up the value becauseyou have teams that are going you know,
they are gonna be like, ohman, if we'd just got him,
well, guess what we heard throughthe grapevine. You've been saying that
he's available, make an offer.I'm man, it's it's it's a cutthroat
fucking business, and you get toany advantage you can you. I mean,
motherfucker, motherfucker. Any motherfuckers arewiping snot on a baseball somewhere as

(01:36:02):
we talk right now on this planetto get more break on their fucking breaking
shit. Okay, As I saidthat, it was happening. Any advantage
is welcome. So that's what I'msaying, Like the legality of it as
far as the league rules, becauseI know in the NFL you can do
shit like that. You can haveyou know, yeah, we'll draft him
and trade them, you know,because it happened with Eli Manny and happened

(01:36:25):
with fucking h shit Elway a coupleothers over the years. I don't know,
I'm just spitballing, dude. I'mtrying to come up with some ideas
because I'm not a I'm not abasketball nor Pistons fan, but I know
this is a big fucking deal,and I know that the national The way
the local news sports news coverage thisversus the national sports news makes me sick

(01:36:49):
because the national sports news almost theirtheir attitude like the the The subtext of
all the snarky articles aimed at thePistons having a number one draft pick is
the NBA might as will step inand take it from him, because who
the fuck are the Pistons? Noone cares, don't why would you?
Why would you ruin somebody's career byletting them be drafted by number one overall,

(01:37:10):
by the pistons. The last timeyou had a high draft pick pistons,
you fucking fumbled like a motherfucker.Dwayne Wade should have been a Piston,
don't. Yeah, exactly, DwayneWade, Carmelo both on the board.
We take DARKO fucking military, don'tfuck this up truck, the human
Victory cigar, don't back this up. Well, I mean, but realize

(01:37:31):
you had Carmelo or fucking Dwayne Wadeto go to work lineup that was there,
how many fucking rings there would be, Like they probably would have beat
the bulls. They probably would havegot like seven or eight of them.
Motherfucker's. Oh, I was aboutto say something to get us kicked off
at every pod, fucking every everyway we distribute this podcast, I'll tell

(01:37:58):
you guys, after saying no,no, no, no, no,
this one, this one's bad.It's bad. But anyways, uh yeah,
I mean, if look, Iget I understand that, but I
also understand that they weren't saying thatship when Cleveland had the number one pick

(01:38:18):
and Lebron was waiting in the wings. Now, yes, that's too juicy
of a story. That's like fairytale book shit. You know, his
hometown gets number one overall pick inthe draft lottery. They draft him.
They didn't, you know, thefairy tale took a little fairy tale deferred,
if you will. It took asequel. Lebron came back for the

(01:38:39):
sequel for them to get the championship, but they finally did. The Pistons
had no business being that high.That was clearly the year the why or
the word lottery kicked in, Likethe Pistons did not have that many balls
in the hopper and they got pickedfor number two. Like that is just
as far as sports fuck ups goto me, that's on like the mount,
that's on the Mount Rushmore. Youknow that's top five. Uh,

(01:39:03):
Ryan Leaf over Peyton Manning, theguy they drafted before Jordan. Yeah,
everybody taken before a fucking Brady.Yeah, I mean it's up there.
You could have had Dwayne Wade.Have you picked Darko there supposed to say

(01:39:27):
we're far enough removed from that regimeand that ownership, even of the Pistons
fucking Joe dum where. I don'tthink. I don't think the taint to
that is on anybody with their fingersin the pie right now. Nationally,
Yes, because nationally. All theycare about is the big picture. They
don't care about the my new showof the situation locally. You don't take

(01:39:48):
Cunningham and that motherfucker. I don'tcare if he ever wins a championship or
not, but if he ends upas a fucking superstar, dude, you'll
never hear the end of it fromPistons fans. And rightfully, so you're
you're absolutely right, Chris. Allthis talk good doing weak, all this
talk, we're pushing there. That'sit. You're absolutely rammatized. Do you

(01:40:12):
do we need to stop podcasts?He's absolutely right, and whatever, no
matter what you do, you betterget it right because this is once in
what every two decades apparently for thePistons if they get this high of a
pick. So yeah, I'm withyou, Chris. You know what fuck
it. I was setting up bandequipment at a gig watching that draft,

(01:40:34):
so it was to two O Osomething. It was the Lebron draft,
so two thousand and three, thousandand three. Yeah, yeah, I
was up equipment too, so Imean not while I watched the draft,
but yes, I at that pointI wasn't in the band thing as well.
I remember the place we were at, we had the draft on the
TV while we were setting up.There was it. I ain't gonna lie.

(01:40:56):
There was a couple of games inTigers games in two thousand and six
where we were playing gigs and Iwas like, before I get on stage,
on spot the nearest TV and Iwent over to the bar and I'm
like, could you cock the TVto where it's like facing more of the
stage. And they're like why.I'm like, I don't want to keep
an eye on the score, Likeseriously, yes, motherfucker seriously, I

(01:41:16):
like, the motherfucker shut up.Yeah, we had a gig the night
uh the Patriots went undefeated to goto the super Bowl. Like, we
had a gig we're playing. We'reall like watching it while we're playing,
like, hey, all right,cool, make sure we're not fucking up.
But you know watching the Patriots game, well yeah, yeah, no,

(01:41:38):
all this talk, you're absolutely right. Boom, you nailed it,
and that's yeah, you can't fuckup. You don't have that luxury.
You dropped the ball on this.You might as well just admit to your
fans we're setting the franchise back whatfive to ten years. Enjoy the teal
uniforms We're gonna bring back. That'swhat I'm saying. That quality of basketball
A really big story for me personalis out of the top ten prospects of

(01:42:03):
this draft, like one of themis a big, big time, big
name school. Okay, context GonzagaOkay. Um. You know when you
think draft, you're thinking North Carolina, do Kentucky? You know, it
usually was all the names when wewere coming up. It was all the

(01:42:23):
names that you had just heard inthe tournament, right, But like Katee
is from Oklahoma State. Uh,the center I was talking about, it's
from southern California, from sokal youknow, j Jalen Sugs is from Gonzaga.
That's the point guard I would takepersonally. But I okay, well,
here's my question. Are these guysone and Dunn's Kade's nineteen? Okay?

(01:42:46):
Then they you know why they pickedThey don't give a fuck about no
goddamn education. Do you know whatthey picked the college for. They liked
the area, They liked the lookand smell of the pussy available in the
air. Yeah, I like fuckinggirls around here. The answer is generally
yes. Yeah. Let me askyou guys a real quick question. Because

(01:43:06):
Rich just brought up a great pointabout one and Duns. I think that
stops. Nah, I don't.I do. Lets you make money off
of your likeness, but you canmake you're much money. You're gonna make
more money in college than you doyour Ricky contract. First of all,

(01:43:27):
your your maybe Okay, you're you'reyou're trying to let you're trying to give
the nc double a power they don'thave. Okay, it ain't their decision.
It's the NBA's decision. If theNBA saysn't one and duns are done,
you've got to do you just likebefore, you gotta do what two
three years? Then you can cometo the draft that happens. No,
Rich, I'm not saying that.Okay, I thought that's what I'm saying.

(01:43:49):
No, I'm saying, people likeKaide and anybody else who can make
money off their likeness stays in college. No, I get what he's saying.
It's as long as there's small rookiecontracts, it might behoove you to
stay in college the extra year orso. Oh oh, okay, I
would say this. Any smart personwould. And if I have, if

(01:44:12):
I have athletic ability, And I'mgoing to college for free because of the
athletic ability, and I can makemoney off of myself while in college while
getting an education for free, geta master's. God. Yeah, then
he goes join a fucking league andmake money there. Even if I'm making
the league minimum and I only lastthree years, I have a fucking yeah.

(01:44:34):
I got at least a four yeardegree. I don't have any debt
from it. I got name recognitionlike a motherfucker. At least, if
you're good enough, you can playthe long game in college and then go
pro. Why can be done withI think college a little bit longer,

(01:44:56):
right, that's fair? It mightbe it might be smart people might start
taking I'm not to stop, butsmart people will do what the scenario Rich
was just talking about, get yourmoney boo boo. No, and you're
and you have to realize that youare taking it. This is what I
guess this is like. If there'sa theme for this show today, this

(01:45:18):
is the show, young people.For you to get off anything of value,
you have to take risks. Youhave to take a chance. You
have to do something you don't wantto do or you think you can't do,
or whatever. The fuck. That'sall there is to it. And
yes, if a guy is goodenough to go in the draft after the

(01:45:39):
first year but stays in college,he has taken a risk. He could
have a catastrophic injury that could completelyderail his career. And the way the
college the way that now I knowin football it's this way for college.
I'm not sure about basketball, butthey can take scholarships or year to year
basis. They can take you offscholarship. Next season you no longer go

(01:45:59):
to you them unless you got fiftygrand laying around. That's just all there
is to it. So I mean, there, it is a calculated risk,
but that is called life, folks, and smart people maximize what they
can get by minimizing the risk.And if they're smart and they get injured
in like year three, they stillgot that loot and now they can pay
for the rest of their school.Absolutely. And believe me, if there's

(01:46:21):
a guy good enough to go tothe pros and staves in college and delivers
a championship to that college basketball team, no matter what he does in the
pros, he's got a place tocome back to for the rest of his
life. Because there are people thatare that nutty about college sports? Edwan
Howard looking at you and they don'tmean me deliver shit. They's got him

(01:46:44):
close. I mean the Fab Five, except for fucking Chris Weber. Pretty
much anybody who's a sports fan inDetroit or the metro Detroit area meets them,
it's oh shit, you know whatI'm saying. Like, it's like,
like, dude, luck, yougo tell someone like, you know,
except for like Jalen Rose that youmet you know, hey, I
met one of the Fab Five.They're like Webber, No, Rose,

(01:47:06):
No, I don't know the restyeah, no, King No. And
the final one is Jackson is RayJackson. Everybody forgets that. Yeah,

(01:47:26):
Okay, I guess I could seeit, and I mean, look,
it's a smart thing. Why wouldn'tyou do it? I would have done
it if I had the ability ifsomething like like Okay, I guess the
closest thing I have to natural athleticability is my ability to play guitar,
meaning it didn't seem like work.It didn't feel like work to learn to
play guitar, which I mean,I guess is affinity meeting a passion for
something. Right, So if Icould go to college get paid to get

(01:47:49):
an education and then go on toa guaranteed career where I'm going to make
millions of dollars a year playing myguitar. At least for a couple of
years. I would not be talkingto you two. Yeah you did.
We'd have never met any of us. Stress. Absolute true story, and

(01:48:10):
it's I've enjoyed my time since I'veknown you guys. But if I could
get back into DeLorean, I mighttry a different timeline. I'm just saying,
just no, nothing personal. Ijust want to find out Jennifer Conley's
pussy taste like it like I thinkit does. So I'm I'm gonna go
do my job, put the workin and try to get that. So

(01:48:30):
I think it smells like water.I didn't even if you guys see that
rant, that video the baby nolingon a couple of days ago. Oh
he's he's a trouble. He's talkedabout gay people. But one of the
lines in his rants said put yourput yourself one in the air if you
pussy smells like water, which Ijust found like, okay, does that
mean it's clean? Is that someyoung people slaying? I don't know about

(01:48:54):
sure. I you know when you'reold. It's not when you don't know
this, it's when you don't careto know the slang. Yeah, that's
truly, that's that's truly old.I don't give a shit anymore for me.
The wheel started falling off with craykray. I was like, wait
a minute, it's already a toosyllable word. You're just you're substituting the

(01:49:15):
second syllable. You're not saving anytime. Just say. They can't say,
oh, he's acting creepy. No, it's got to be oh he's
a creeper now, And I'm like, that's what I'm talking about ten year
old slang. But oh no,no, it's oh dude, cringe.
Oh that's so cringe. What whatbecause you don't know what the word inducing
means? To put after Craig theword cringe moron? Really? Okay,

(01:49:41):
well, I mean, I'll behonestly, it might be another podcast we
talked about this. I've spent yearsaround nation's youth now, back to back
to back. It ain't getting anybetter, folks. Creeper. Yeah,
I don't stand this generation. Youdo not abide No, Oh, we'll
get into that on Gen Exhausted wedo that later today absolutely or other things

(01:50:06):
too, but I think this aboutyou. Guys, got anything else?
This one sounds like it's it's kindof wrapping up. All right, well,
thank you for listening. We areon social media. Sporge at Christopher
Media dot net, emails sport Wait, God damn it, I'm pretty sure

(01:50:27):
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