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Spongy, US Media, DOTT Media, DOTT and now yours. Well,
here we are after the All Starbreak. I'm Chris, I'm rich,
I'm the ice fan, and I'llstart game. Happened last night either you
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guys watch it now wait last nightof time? I happened Tuesday night or
Tuesday It's I don't happen, it'sgot it. It's already I used,
we're talking about this pre show chatand already had to happen. They're playing
baseball back again tomorrow. So umno, I I watched some clips.
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I didn't get a chance to watchit watch it. I think I've watched
this. I'm like twelve. Ifyou at my honest answer. I used
to watch uh every every year whenI was a kid, and then probably
around early two thousands started watching whenI started watching baseball again, started watching
it at least, be honest withyou, half the time, home run
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Derby's more fun than the fucking AllStar Game. So that's you know,
that's what I would watch. Butthis year it was just the situation I'm
in. I didn't I didn't havea way to watch it live, so
I had to watch it in clipsas it was happening, so Atlanta,
I said, fuck it, Iain't watching none of it. I'll start
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Okay, so good, that's that'sa lot of words to say that you
have nothing to say. So anyways, um, like we were saying,
yeah, apparently they had a bunchof people miked up, like on the
field and we're talking to them duringthe game. And it's the All Star
Game. It's an exhibition game essentially, it's just you know whatever. But
I guess that, like there wasa very good response to it, and
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so it's being thrown around to dothat in regular and I'm like, I
cannot imagine micing up players during aregular season, especially like the playoffs.
And here's why I say that,because I heard the audio clip of this
on Sports Talk of a pitcher whoit was miked up, but he thought
it wasn't working, and so hehad stopped talking, but they could he
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couldn't hear them talking to him,but they could still hear him, and
he was still going out over theair and he threw you know, he
threw a pitch. It was acold fucking ball, and he goes,
God, damn it. Then theydropped a fuck later and so you're getting
into exactly what I was gonna getinto. Someone's gonna get canceled. Remember,
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uh justin Oh no, you guysdon't watch golf, but I'm sure
you remember we maybe we talked aboutit. Uh in January, the guy
called himself a faggot when he misseda shot, and oh boy, oh
boy, he did. He hadto go on and he had to go
on an apology tour. He losta couple of sponsors. I'm surprised they
didn't make him suck a dick inthe fucking towns. He essentially tattooed,
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which the reparations he had to make. He did it symbolically, you know,
but yeah, you know exactly whatI'm okay, so see what I'm
getting and someone's going to get canceled. Then, on top of that,
to make it even more funny,the catcher came out and goes to him,
Hey man, remember you're still mikedup, and he goes, no,
don't worry about that. It ain'tworking, and that got out over
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the year. But I mean,my point is is that if you have
players miked up in the outfield,I can't imagine during regular season a pitch
or it ever be miked up.But do people if they are. There
a lot of sports fans who don'tunderstand that, like what happens during sports,
like the ship talking that goes onand it's all to yourself. A
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lot of it too, Like likewhen that stuff happened with Justin Thomas,
would me and my friends? Iwas like, who am I like?
If you might be up on thegolf course over done? The things I
say to myself, the names Icall myself, good god man, that's
me driving. But yeah, samething. Yeah, but no, I
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mean, like, dude, itwas a couple of years ago, I
believe as a couple of seats wereright before Yeah, the what twenty or
nineteen, Yeah, twenty nineteen season. Remember the NFL said they're gonna they're
gonna make it so there's no moreracial slurs used on the field, and
we all laught and we're like,you understand the league's eighty percent black,
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Like you ever met a black person, Roger and these are highly motivated type
A gotta control everything, got todominate everything type motherfuckers. You think they're
gonna be like, hey, myfellow African American, how are they today?
No? It doesn't work that much. There was a song on the
top forty charts called N Words inParis, and they didn't say N words.
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Yeah, I know, Yeah,it's Kanye and jay Z's a good
song. I'm glad I live ina society where we're reduced to talking like
children because someone might get offended ofus saying the word in the context that
it was meant to be said.Hey, I said Fagett all right picked
up on the field during the season. There's ship that leads to bench clearing
brawls. Yeah, oh yeah,oh yeah, I just watched it.
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I just watched a little YouTube videoon Dusty Baker and Tony Larus's relationship through
the years from players to head coaches, and they're both like, yeah,
we're friends, but it seems likea front of each type thing because they
had a couple on field incidences,and especially in the high deaf era when
you can really clearly see what's beingsaid, They're like, were you apologize
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to the RiPP leaders or a lipreaders out there? And I'm just like
going, there's no fucking way,Like he clearly just told him to go
fuck his mother, and he waslike, suck my fucking cock like you
clearly saw them yelling at at eachother across the baseball field from the dugouts.
So it's like, yeah, evenif you're miked up and you're sitting
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in the fucking dugout and some shitpops off and you're doing your best to
be professional, ignore it. AtMike's gonna pick that up, and then
it's it's over with because then whathappens what we talk about constantly, the
non sports fans come in and tryto up their bullshit standards to something they
have no idea about. You knowwhat, though I was thinking about this,
those people would be shocked. Thosepeople would be absolutely beside themselves if
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they listen to even women's sports.I'm sure that maybe an N word is
here and there, all right,but you know, I'm pretty sure they
don't say cock and all of thisshit, you know, on their fields.
But some of the shit they wouldsay, you were two women fucking
talk shit to each other, That'swhat I'm saying. Some of the shit
they would say in the in theyou know, in the middle of competing,
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make some dude go to Jesus Christ, people, bro. I Yeah,
a friend of a friend her wifeis a professional football player. They
play at John Glenn High School.It's they have a league in all it's
full contact. They play iron manand her wife is you know, she
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was a linebacker and a fucking tightend. And she's telling stories about shit
and she's like, oh, cunt, horror, slut, scant, skeezer,
twat any coups, any fucking thinglike it ain't like yeah, yeah,
basically bitch and hooker is their nword. Bitch, please hook or
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please you know, like at thewhole period thing they can make fun of
each other with two we don't havethat like and this is from the horse's
mouth. And she's like, bythe way, I know some men that
would fucking would blush it some ofthis ship. And I'm just sitting there
like these are all lesbians. Rightof course they are, because these type
of women I could be with.But they're like, well, sorry,
mean interested in what she's got wrong? Plumbing you barking up the wrong tree,
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homie. But yeah, I'm like, yeah, why can't I?
But once again, that's to me, that's not a straight gay thing.
That is a competitive spirit thing that'sfound in I don't give a fuck who
you are. If you have it, you have it. If you don't,
you don't and you don't understand it. And if you don't under here's
the thing. If we're not supposedto if we don't understand something, aren't
we supposed to be getting lightened thesedays? Well, then shut the fuck
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up. As these people would saywho have problems with athletes saying shit on
the field, shut the fuck upand enlighten yourself and put in the work,
sweetie. And then what's you telleverybody? Take many seats and put
the work in. We'll take manyseats and put the workhead. Why don't
you read up on how fucking theathletes are. Understand what they go through
to get where they're at. Understandthe mentality, the will, the strength
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it takes to do that and I'mnot talking strength physical, mental, emotional,
and understand the drive that someone likethat has, and then you'll understand
why they get out in the fieldand someone fucks up and they're grabbing their
teammate by their face mask, going, are you fucking bullshitting me? Two
fucking weeks we prepared for this playand you blow it the fuck out of
my face. And if you playedsports. It was coming. I told
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you was coming exactly. Yeah,because in sports world, you did or
you didn't. There is no welland there is no like like that's what
worries me about, Like this culturewe're breeding with. You know, there's
like Little League now where they don'tkeep score and all this, and you
know they're they're constantly trying to breedcompetition out of sports when you're you and
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know that the life lessons that itteaches you they go well beyond sports.
And you know what, as aspart of this, I actually coached and
played and everything else I watch also. Okay, and here's the thing.
As much as they want to tryto tone down the competition with females,
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males, all of it in sportsperiod. Okay, it doesn't work all
the time. Sometimes it does.Sometimes it does and the kid just goes
off and and you know, rainbowsand ponies and he's fine or she it's
fine. Uh. But okay,for example, you look at Michael Jordan's
Okay, we've talked about him onthe podcast That Nausea. Right from nine
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years old when he got cut froma basketball team. The man played with
a chip on his shoulder until hislast day Okay to this day that that
fucking documentary, it became a memehim sitting in the chair, and I
took that personally because he kept everything. I took that personally. It gets
like it's like I said, itteaches you it is or it is when
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you get into the working world andyou have a job or even you're giving
a project, that's your job.You either got it done or you didn't.
There isn't gonna be like, oh, well you tried hard, you
missed the mark. Yeah, yeah, you missed the mark. Sometimes you're
you're gonna get fired. Like that'sright. That's what sports teaches you did
you did or you didn't. Youknow, it's Yoda right, do or
do not? There is no tryright. And then you look at today,
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for example, Lebron James, greatplayer, theyde up compared to Mike
many times. Here's the difference.Oh boy, Lebron James doesn't have that
full competitive that killer I will dowhat it takes, doesn't mean that that's
where you separate. And and thattoday today in any sport and with any
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sex, with any whoever you wantto call him, even if you got
it, you got it. Ifyou don't you don't. I agree with
you there because with the exception inrecent history, and you find out he
only took the shot because he knewhe didn't have time to pass it off.
He actually admitted that. How manylast shots? How many famous buzzer
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beating last shots has Lebron James madein his career? Yep, dingo.
He doesn't want the ball at theend of the game. He doesn't have
It's another person. Did we talkedabout what I talk about ad nausea?
Patrise O'Neil called it years ago.We didn't call it. He just said
it, and he goes. Anyreal basketball fan knows this, especially older
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ones. He doesn't have that killerinstinct. He doesn't have that dagger that
he wants to stick in your heartlike Kobe and Bird and Magic and Isaiah
and Michael did. He doesn't haveit. Yeah, Well, that doesn't
mean he's not talented, and itdoesn't mean that talent can't take an athletic
ability and size can't take you far. Look how far it's taken him.
But here's to me, here's wherethe rubber meets the road. How many
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finals has he been in? Howmany finals has he won? How many
fucking Super Bowls is fucking oh excuseme, my bad. The big games
have fucking has Tom Brady been in? How many has he won? How
many finals were fucking Jordan was Jordanin? How many did he win?
That's where that's where, that's wherewe separate the weak from the chat.
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You know what I'm saying, Weget down to the brass tacks. Yeah,
I'll take Lebron anytime on my fuckingpickup team. And yeah, in
his prime, you could build afranchise around him, keyword around him,
because he's one of those people whomakes others better. But he's not the
lynch pin, and he thinks heis. And that's the problem because he
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was such a hyped up motherfucker.That's why I can't stand talking about him
anymore, because everybody's still stuck onhis two thousand three hype coming about that
was buzzing about him. He ain'tthat, and they're still trying to force
him to his image as he's thissavior of the NBA. Well, he's
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not. Well. The sports media, though, it is a very big
part of it, because yesterday Isent you guys made two days ago send
you something in the chat the NBAFinals are going on right now. You
got the Phoenix Suns, who arecinerella story coming out of nowhere, out
of the West. And then yougot the other teams, got the current
Finals MVP on it, who tookdown the fucking nets with Kevin Durant scoring
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fifty points a game, and they'refucking sending out fucking a little alerts of
here's Lebrown watching basketball on TV,like, are you fucking shitting me?
Like he's not in the finals,you still got to talk about him.
Let's get into it now that we'veturned to it. No, no hold
on, finish the little Brown conversation. We'll get there. I look,
their conversation rapist, it's not conversationrapist she got. Don't into it anyways,
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Lebron. It's funny because the NBAis moving away from him. I
get who their next best thing is. They're trying. They're trying. It's
not there yet, but they're trying. As soon as he retires. Soon
as Lebron retires, the Greek freakis all the rap. The media has
not gotten that message, because thenit's not just ESPN, CBS, all
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kinds of fucking dumb shit. Orlike, here's Lebron coach or watching his
son play. The finals are goingon, We're still talking about this motherfucker.
Stop covering him. He's over talking. You're talking about him in a
way that's not even in relation towhat's going on with your the fucking finals.
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Here's the funny part in that sense, Lebron is like exactly like Michael
Jordan, whenever you say his name, somebody's gonna look at it. It
doesn't matter what it is, doesn'tmatter if he's playing, it doesn't matter,
if he's watching It doesn't matter ifhe's watching TV. It don't matter.
A tweet doesn't. Like I swearto god, I'm not trying to
be snarky. I'm not trying tobe an ass. I'm just trying to
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understand. What does brand recognition haveto do with what we're talking about?
Like are you saying I mean,like, is it is he the kind
of are you? Are you sayingit? Like? Because if they know,
if whatever they put about him,even if it's Lebron reads his shopping
list, they're gonna get hits.Is that what you're saying? Yeah,
you put the name Jame, somebody'sgonna click it. I send it to
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you guys to be like, whyare they still talking about him? They
got what they wanted, You're right, yeah, okay, no, no,
I just want to make sure Iwas understanding what you were saying.
But it's exactly what they did withMike. It didn't matter if he was
owning a team, didn't matter ifhe was coming back to play with the
Wizards, didn't matter what it wasdoing here, Michael Jordan's swinging in the
bat in the minor leagues. Huhwhat yeah, well look, I you
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know, NBA whatever, But realquick, I just I didnt want to
just uh double back and get thisthought in about baseball, because we didn't
wander very far from the from thetopic in hand, at least the initial
topic sports jazz. Yes, weall pick a key, we agree where
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to start, and we just kindof make it up as we go.
It's called free jazz if you don'tknow. Sometimes we're not even in the
same key, and it's like jazzhands. Look, sometimes Earl shows up,
plugs in like a Marshall half stackand starts playing Metallica. We're we're
trying to do free jazz. He'slike, I want to rock and then
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Mike Patton shows up and sings forus. Right, cool, cool,
now we're mister Bungle. Yeah,somewhere one listeners like, oh, I
get that. There's some forty fiveyears old right now laughing his ass off.
Anyways, UM, I don't saythis shit lightly because like grand you
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know, declarations, Earl, youpretty much have that Lon lockdown on this
podcast, especially about athletes and theperformance we're seeing. But I just gotta
say once again, the Angels arethe luckiest unlucky team I've ever seen in
my life. They have Mike Trout, who, for the last decade,
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the only person who even gave hima run for his money because he won
the Triple Crown was Miguel Cabrera.And that was the early twenty tens.
Mike Trout was considered the best bassplayer in baseball pretty much all ass decade
from when he got into the league. He's being wasted Nanaheim, New York,
Boston, Saint Louis, Chicago.He would be a fucking he would
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be Derek Jeter level of fucking famous. Shoheotani is doing something we've never seen
in our lifetime in and Major Leaguebaseball. He's Babe Ruth two point zero.
Literally, he's babe. He's BabeRuth. But appears to even have
a higher upside as far as hispitching. You know what I'm saying,
Like, because you got to thinkabout it, Babe Ruth. They moved
him from pitcher to outfielder to gethis bat in the lineup because he couldn't
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even at his young after Boston soldhim basically trade or sold him, traded
him whatever you want to look atit to New York. He couldn't take
the wear and tear of pitching onceevery four days and playing in the field
every three or for for three.Oh Connie does that and excels at both
to the point where he started inthe outfield. He was on the All
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Star team. As excuse me,starting the outfield, starting pitcher. An
could have been a starting outfield buthe couldn't play two positions at the same
time. Dude. It's amazing.It's seriously amazing. And I mean,
if he wasn't on Anaheim, thiswould be the biggest. This would be
Mark McGuire, Sammy sos apart two. There you go, fucking America Japanese
once again, fucking making us looklike fucking assholes. Look at this.
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It's guy's just going out there andproducing. I'll play both sides of the
ball. All be good at both. I can play, I can,
you can play the whole fucking field. Why the Japanese kicking our ass?
Well? You know, and afew years ago, didn't we what Bob's
fucking fertilizer? You're quoting? Fuckinguh? What's his face? Andrew Dice
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gay I am moving here now,yeah, but anyways, i'd like man
anyways, Uh no, sorry,I threw myself off with that one,
seriously, like and then I'm hesitantto even dip my toe in this because
it's such it's so ridiculous. Iget that it's a double standard in some
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people's eyes. But ESPN came outand made fucking Stuart Scott do his fucking
hole. I'm sorry, Oh whoaR I p Stewart Scott Stephen at every
president Stewart Scott. They brought thezombie of Stewart Scott. Now see if
here you go, I'm gonna showyou. I'm gonna show you the difference
between taking me at face value andassigning intent to something that I misspoke.
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I really don't care for Stewart orstay Stewart start Smith, but they had
a baby. I really don't care. Just follow us that sass and move
on cult their black guy because that'sit. But that's what I'm saying,
like you were gonna be oh,they all look at the Stadi no I
Anyways, Still it's not our fault. ESPN only has one high profile black
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eye at a time. That's theirproblem, Okay, not ours. I
just want Steward Scott. It's justthe fucking man and the sass is well
not yeah, why he's saying StewartScott. He's stephen A. Smith peeked
with that fucking iverson interview in thetwo thousands and that was it. Maybe
I mean old and grumpy stephen Astarting to grow on me. I'm starting
to agree with him more and more. Well, see here's the thing.
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Like he come out and he waspeople were like, why is otuning that
the face of baseball? He comeout and he goes because one he's in
Anaheim, same as Trout. Noone argued that point. No one was
arguing to that point with Trout.You know what I'm saying. And then,
of course, because you got thepeople who are trying to fucking find
fault and everything in a sign howthey think something is it should be to
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what it is instead of dealing withit what it is. He goes.
Also, he doesn't really speak fluentEnglish. He speaks through a translator.
That hinders his marketability in this country. And people are racist. That's not
racist, that's a fact. Howis it when the facts become racist.
You're a zealot, you're a cultmember. You are not dealing with reality.
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You're seeing the world. What didyou say earlier, Chris, We're
talking about someone you're not leaving inreality on reality's terms. Boom, there
you go, nor get there.If he could work the press better,
he'd be a fucking super It's thesame reason mcl cabrera is not at the
level he should be nationally. Andof course you know, here, come
here, come all the people.You know again, I made it.
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I fucked up. I wanted intoa comment section because the guy was like,
this is double standard, this isracist, blah blah blah. The
media needs a sound bite. Ifif this was a white guy, he'd
have been fired already. And Iwas like, and just like the white
guy, if he if it hadbeen a white guy who said it,
if Max Kellerman would have said it, he shouldn't have been fired. Neither
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should Smith period end the story.I Okay, it might be insensitive,
but no one has the right tonot hear something that's insensitive. It might
be blunt. But here's my question, here's the litmus test. Does he
use an interpreter when he gives interviews? Yeah? Yes or no? Yes
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and shut the fuck up? What'smore insulting? What's more racist to assume
that he's too ignorant to learn howto speak another fucking language? At he
used to give some pat answers enoughto shill some fucking sugar water from coke
or pepsi, or to go heyman, even the fucking players who come
over here. But a Cason point. This is, at one point in
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the two thousands of tigers infield wasall native Latin speakers. That was our
native language, or Spanish speakers.We're all from Latin America except for Brandon
Inch. You know, Brandon jdid it would be a better infielding unit
he learned Spanish? So did heput the little thing over the end in
his name so he'd fit in Brandonin, you know, and then and
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then he put the thing over theend and then the thing over the e
so we could fit in. Oh, we've beensed out of the perfect edge.
Nino. Yeah, there you go. It could have been his could
have been his fucking nickname here inDetroit. He's the great, He's the
he's the token grain go because hewas doing hers was a native English speaker.
So is he racist because he learnedSpanish to commune with the rest of
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the team. And I and Imade that in a comment. I said,
look, I spent a third ofmy childhood. I spent a third
of my childhood in Florida. Iheard Spanish all the time. There is
eight There is literally now boxes youcould check when you go to certain areas
of the country where they say languagesthat you are capable of understanding, and
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or flewent in and Spanglish is oneof them. It's its own thing.
It's a combination of English and Spanish. That's nothing new. Italians do it
all the time. Copice ain't ina fucking English word? How many motherfucker's
you ever met? That the Italianyou understand me cape that means understand motherfucking
I learned enough Spanish to be ableto follow them within three, four or
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five months. I know, kitchenSpanish. It's enough for me. Yeah,
well yeah, yeah, I meanbut you know what I'm saying,
It's like, dude, fuck offwith your assumption that asking anybody to put
any effort towards anything somehow it's thephoebe. I've always made this point.
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If I moved to Mexico, Ihave to learn Spanish. Take your ass
to parish and don't speak French andfind out how quick you get fucking treated
like a fucking dog turd and agoddamn wedding gig. If I want to
head, all right, well let'sdo it. Let's do it this way,
rich There was there was a Japaneseguy. He was pretty big.
He was a pretty big star,a pretty big name. It was in
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Seattle. I'm sure you know hisname. Goddamn to say, it's each
Row, Jesus Christ. Yes,yes, it was Itchy Row. And
he spoke enough English to be thatstar. Yeah, he was a bigger
star in Seattle than he was whenhe was on the Yankees exactly. But
it was a large Japanese population inSeattle that probably helped. But yeah,
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yeah, but you remember when uh, oh, god damn. I forget
his name. His nickname was Godzillato pay for the Yankees in the two
thousands, came over and came overin like his late twenties, early thirties,
and one rookie of the year.Yeah, didn't he liked yeah,
and didn't he like said all kindsof records in like five years something like
that. I forget his name.My point is, no, it wasn't,
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no, no, no, hewas. He was the Yankees.
He was on the Yankees as faras I know, from the beginning of
his career until the end. Ican't. If he wins someplace else,
I can't. It doesn't matter.The point is is that even they knew
their strengths the Yankees. The Yankeesare pragmatists. The Yankees are gonna get
paid. Fuck you pay me.The Yankees are the Mafia. Yankees are
the U. Fuck the US government. Yankees are at rs who DACKI Matt
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Sue, Ye, thanks Sue,thank you? Yeah yeah, Matt Sue.
Okay. So the Yankees knew okayobviously. Now I never really saw
him learn enough, like like Englishto have a long form interview in English.
But they also knew that he wasa huge fucking draw in Japan,
and they wanted to fucking siphon offsome of that fucking fans, fan base
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and their fucking money to the Yankeeswhat they do. When he played in
New York, he was a corneroutfielder. His corner was fucking covered in
goddamn ads that were in fucking Japanese. This is what we're not dealing with
reality. These are professional athletes whoare trying to make as much money as
possible out of his short of acareer, or out of a career that
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could be very short. I meanvery short. Any minute could come to
an end. Why is it wrongto have a discussion about why wouldn't an
athlete try to expand his ability tomake money? Why wouldn't if I was
playing in Japan and I was anAmerican born athlete who spoke English and not
a lick of Japanese. Believe me, when I got off the plane and
the interpreter come up to me fromthe team, I would go, it's
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good to meet you. Hope youlike me, because you're gonna be my
fucking Japanese professor. Because you needto teach me how to speak this ship,
period and the story. I don'tunderstand why that is fucking controversial.
And he had to do his littlepenance in the court of public and the
kangaroo court of public opinion on ESPNthe other day. Am I missing something?
I know we all pretty much thinkalike on a lot of this shit,
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but I mean, this is justthe way that people think. Man,
Chris, give me, give methe devil's advocate side here, because
I'm not really seeing how this isracist at all. Besides, you talked
about someone in a language they're notproficient in. The devil's advocate argument is
like there's always an asshole on Twitter. It's gonna be mad about something.
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And that's not because I'm with youon this, Like the media needs a
sound bite. If you can't workthe media here, you're not going to
be the media star. That's howit is. It's not because they need
a sound bite. You're saying theonly reason he's not a bigger star is
because of his nationality. No,it's because he can't speak English. That's
not that's not factual. If that'swhat they're saying, that's not factual.
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Because as far as I saw great, I didn't see the clip. I
read the transcript. Stephen A.Smith and others were pointing out it it's
a it's an aggregate of things.It's the sum of all things. It's
the fact that he is in Anaheim, he is on the West coast.
There is a time difference. Mostpeople on the East coast aren't staying up
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till ten o'clock to watch first pitchon a West Coast game. You know
what I'm saying. So like itwas all that got ignored and this one
thing pulled out and cherry picked.And that's where it's like, if that's
your argument, well the reason he'sno, that was never said. You're
lying. You are dismissed. Nowyou can't adult conversation and you are parting
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ways. Go to the naughty stepuntil you can figure out how to fucking
deal with shit like an adult anddeal with facts and not fantasy because you're
not here to I'm not here towrite, which which here's why you don't
argue with those people, because thosesame people would go to stephen A and
when he's talking and go, youwere absolutely right when he says a thing
that's actually racist and embedded in racism. When when he goes and says this
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team because the Brooklyn Nets didn't hirea coach that's black, you know,
when he starts talking about blackhead coach, they're the same people that are there
to rip him about this are praisinghim about that. Now that is all
embedded about racist. But this,yeah, that's called dude, it's it's
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called double standards. And this iswhy I've I've been saying people and it's
like, that's racist and you're goodwith it. This is just the state
of fact, and you want toblow your head off over it. The
funk out of here. I mean, I like I said, dude,
I first of all, half theship that people have declared racist, well
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more than half the ship that peoplehave declared racist on espn IM I want
to prep whole comments blanketed and that. So don't get it twisted. I
don't find I'm like that, it'snot racist, that's just a fact.
And you people were fucking pissed offbecause why because sports has winners and losers,
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and sometimes the winners all don't looklike who you think should be standing
at the fucking at on the topof the podium or lifting the cup or
fucking the Lombardi Trophy or whatever thefunk out of my face, because let
me tell you, let me tellyou something, every fucking every goddamn professional
sport in this country, every fuckingprofessional sport in this country, could go
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all black front office to fucking thewater boy, fucking just do what they
do. What some of these peoplereally do want, they're just we'll hear
it in our lifetimes. We don'twant white people in sports. That's what
they want. Okay, do thatnow, when the winners and losers and
water starts finding its levels start happening, what's your excuse then? What is
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your complaint? Then? How isthis whitey's fault? Then? How is
this systemic racism? How is thisthe patriarchy? How is this whatever invented
bullshit? Some fucking cocksuck can pieceof shit professor that invented some nonsense to
get a paycheck to teach you bullshitcame up with, dude, it's never
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That's why I'm saying, don't playthe game. You can't play the game
with these people because you can't.There's no winning. No, they can't
win. So that's what I wasgonna say, I firmly believe there are
people in this country now that getup, have the robot make their coffee,
crack their knuckles, they get readyfor work, they sit down at
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a desk in their job is togo look at these fucking comments and state
the opposite. You know, afew years ago, for reality, a
few years ago, I would disagreewith you. Now I don't because they
probably work for likes news outlets.Yeah, dude, it's it's for anyone
listening to what Ice and US aretalking about, going, oh, that's
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conspiracy theory stuff, that's tinfoil hatstuff. Let me tell you something.
They're making interns due nowadays, Chris, you just hit on it. Chris
can back me up on this.You've worked in the service industry, specifically
the food service industry. A lotof people, whether or not they're a
ballot or not, will go toreviews online to look up a restaurant.
I've worked for fucking general managers andowners of restaurants that said, if you
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have absolute downtime, meaning nothing toclean, all the prep done, no
customers, get on your phone,go to these pages right glowing five star
reviews about us. I have notI would tell those people, run your
ship better. That's what I wouldtell those people. You want you want
good comments, run your ship better. But yeah, that dude, that
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is I mean, believe me,that is not something that's like a remote
experience for me. That is somethingthat happened. Well no, I'm not
saying I'm not saying it. I'mjust saying, like, I know that
exists, but just like, yeah, my answer like, run your restaurant
better, maybe you'll get like realfive star reviews. I got what you're
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saying. But also at the sametime, now, do you know the
background on the moron you used towork for. That's probably where I'm speaking
from. Yeah, um, butI mean what I'm getting at is that
you know, if you think somefucking Poe Dunk, a little franchise or
little mom and pop store is goingto do that, But these major corporations
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who have armies of people at theirfucking at their disposal, aren't going to
do that to to to push theirbrand recognition or or Q rating or whatever
the fuck up. And because guys, we all know this is his business.
The only thing they care about isthe bottom line. Did we make
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money or did we lose money,and by the way, stay in the
same is losing money in our mind. So if I'm lying, tell me
I'm lying. No and no.There's a documentary out there that that exposed
was Instagram and like a lot offollowers and a lot of comments are fake
and it's shit like that that peopleare doing to make sure that they look
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like they're fucking you know that they'rebig shit on social media. There was
a podcast host that if I namedhis name, you would know him,
that's how well known he is.He flat out admitted when he started his
podcast he was faking like these phonecalls and shit in and like because he
gave out like a like a hotlineor like you know, hit a chat
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room, and he was saying hewas, oh yeah, he would,
He goes, I would make burneraccounts, go into the chat room and
post shit and then go read itonline and act like it was from somebody
else. Because that's how you getpeople interested in shit. When other people
see that other people want something,all of a sudden, they are interested
in what they're that person's coveting.Nothing attracts the crowd like a crowd boom.
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It's too simple, too easy,private too easy. So I mean
it's it's this is this is notthe out of the realm of possibility and
like the bullshit that comes with it. People just don't realize, man.
And it's like, dude, thesepeople are never going to be happy,
and that's why they can't win becausethey have no win, they have no
finish line. Everything's always going tobe fucked up because they're searching for perfection.
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But in the search perfection, they'redestroying everything good and great in the
world. I heard somebody on apodcast talking about you know, it's h
Adam Carolla likes to make the pointthat, you know, the racism talk
really got ratcheted up once we hada black president. And the point that
the guest made was, well,yeah, because once that happened, the
people who made all their bones ontelling uh, you know, every you
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know, on saying that everything's racist. Could you can't make anybody if you
have a black president. That killsyou, So you gotta keep moving the
line. So it's just I thinkyou're getting at rich. It's like there's
just no matter what becomes acceptable,there's always going to be people who are
offended. And it's just We're justgonna keep pushing it and keep pushing it
and keep pushing it, and itdoesn't matter absolutely. Bill Berb brought it
up. He said, look,you know, here's here's the deal.
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He's like, you're gonna start seeingin this And this was on Opie and
Anthony over a decade ago. Hesaid this. He's like, you're gonna
start seeing this. You're gonna getto the point where people are gonna because
now you can't say anything racist inpublic because everybody's fucking calling you on the
ship. Once again, it's overten years ago. It's right around Tish
smartphone started becoming really prevalent in everybody'spocket. He goes, everybody's got a
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recording studio in their fucking pocket.So now people are just keeping the racist
thoughts inside. And now people arewalking around going, I'm assuming that you're
racist because I think you are.And that's where we're at now, we're
racism. Is I think you're racistbecause you're white? Have I done anything
racist? No? Have you saidanything racist? No? But you're it's
it's you're born racist. You're white. You can't you cannot rationalize with that.
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That is trying to rationalize with someonewho believes in original sin in the
sense of Christianity. The last coupleof years, I've just accepted the fact
that people are making judgments about me. I'm middle aged, I got my
head shaved, i got a saltand pepper beard, and I'm white.
So I'm just I mean, I'mjust half the people in my age or
people half my age. Just assumeI'm the fucking devil wearing fucking nikes.
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I don't give a fuck this Youand you've built people like me. Congratulations.
Also, by the way, that'show you got Donald Trump. But
right, and then and then youtry to go back and call him on
it, and you end up provingtheir point. You're like, so you
think I'm racist just because I'm white? Isn't that racist? Ah See,
takes one to know one told youwere racist? If you make the trust
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this argument, it's the most basic, simple argument that destroys them, and
they don't want to hear it.If you if you actually say, hey,
isn't making sweeping generalizations about a groupof people based on their skin color,
I don't know racist? They don'twant to hear that. Well,
the problem is we got a gotchsociety and people lose track of the real
problems here. It's I compare thisship with Stephen A. Smith and and
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Otani to like, in my mind, how do I put this? People
are pissed because he said something thatthe usual ual woke flakes would go,
that's racist if it came from awhite person, And they're like, well,
why isn't he being punished? SoESPN feels the heat. They read
the fucking tweets, they see ittrending, and they make him do his
fucking you know, forced apology atgunpoint tours. So he goes on all
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the shows and he apologizes and theyput his shit online. He apologizes,
and these people are like, whoa, he should have lost his job,
like so and so did, Andit's like, no, no, that's
not the argument. Argument is hesaid nothing racist, just like humeboy over
here said nothing racist. Neither ofthem should be fucking in trouble for anything.
They said. We're letting the inmatesrun the asylum, like fucking not
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for ESPN is not above firing peoplefor being racist, even if they're not
white. Jamal Hill looking at you, No, she still works for him.
The route is the things. Sheworks for his own by ESPN.
They just banished her to fucking yes, they banished her to a blog.
It's like it's like being the careermilitary person getting stationed in the nartake.
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She still works for him. Justyeah, she's not a high profile.
Damn it. I had a greatpoint and I lost it. Damn it.
Ice. Well, I mean,dude, it's it's It's like I
said, I compare it to theargument about gay marriage. Okays, you
get married, ruining institution of marriage. That's not the argument you should be
having. You should be pissed offthe governments in your love life. Why
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do you have to drag the governmentand sign a governmental contract to declare your
love for somebody? If you're gonnagive me all the reasons for tax reasons
and health insurance reasons, well aren'tthey the fucking government. Can't they make
laws to get rid of that.But they don't, do they because they
want to be involved in your fuckinglife. By the way, if you
even you getting married, they gotto get their cut off. Tell me
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the government ain't the goddamn mafia.I was gonna say too. Also,
everyone talks about the tax break,but if you marry someone with a checkered
financial pass, you don't get thattax break because you do everything married,
finally separate and you get hindered.I mean, well if they accrue the
debt after you get married. Yes, trust I did lots of homework on
that sponge for Media dot net,Christopher, Media dot net sports you anyways,
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the Gotcha Society Trevor Bauer looking atyou? How you guys? Yeah,
let's he's getting railroaded, man likegotchat? Have you guys read the
text? Oh? Yeah, shewasn't, dude. I sent it.
I sent it to the group Chada week ago, and one news source
reported on it out of all thenew sources I went to about the text
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she sent by the way, thatyeah, before he even laid eyes on
her, She's like, I wantto I want you to choke me out
while you fuck me. Bro,Can we just can we stop with this?
Fucking every woman? Is this fuckinglike, you know, beautiful,
fucking innocent flowers. Let me tellyou something, these days, by the
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time your average chick reached twenty five, she's had more fucking pricks in her
than a goddamn pincushion. It ain'tnothing new under the sun going on on
that bitch the gang bang. Youweren't invited to the all girl gang bang.
There ain't no video footage of butit all happened. Get used to
it and move the fuck ey.Sorry, but yeah, like he's getting
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that the jealous right there. Richjust mad he'd invited to the all girl
gang because we went through this withfucking We went through this with fucking with
Tiger Woods a decade ago with hisfucking text when they got released, and
they were like, because you knowthere was of course, the woke flight
crowd wasn't a fucking given the platformthat they are now, but they were
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still vocal and they're like, ohthis, you can't fuck that many women
without rape and one probably help theTigers of Minority two. And I'm like,
are you fucking serious? Have youread these text messages? Were like
I want you to choke me,I want you to fuck me in my
ass, and fucking it seems thething that people can't handle. And you
started to touch on this, Rich, is what we learned in situations like
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this is get what. Guess what, There's women out there who like to
fuck. Yeah, it's not justmen. Who like to fuck. There
are there are women I got.I can show you my phone right now.
There there's a lot of chip.There's women out there who'd like They
like it just as much as men, and they'll do it for sport.
And there's someone out there that'll fuckyour ass in half if you ain't up
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to the challenge. Sis, itsounds farther than you ever thought was possible.
Yeah, you'll be saying your safeword. Yeah. Like And it
sounds like he ran into one ofthese broads. But he's at the age
like my toe has been back inthe dating pool here for a few weeks.
He's at the age where you runtowards crazy. I'm not running away
from crazy. If I sent crazyimmediately, we're done, like I'm not
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talking to you, We're done texting, We're done messaging. Like no I
could. I'd like to think byforty two I could sniff out crazy and
yeah crazy And when I was younger, crazy, man, you're gonna fuck
me good. Now crazy means you'regonna fuck me good in a whole different
way. No, thank you,And Trevor's finding out No, I mean,
dude, I ever so often thesethese athletes find out. You know,
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Brett far Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant, god Rest. I got trying
not to put too much of mybusiness out here, but I got two
girls right now that they want meto hit them, and with this Trevor
Bauer stuff like, no, that'snot going to happen. Sorry, maybe
you need to move on to somebodyelse, because all of this, if
you read the text messages, thisis all consensual. Everything that was done
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to her she asked for. AndI'm not trying to be like, oh,
I shouldn't wear that dress. There'sthere's written proof. Go find on
the internet, go read it.She asked for all this stuff. When
we allow, when you allow someonethe carte blanche to be as far out
there is they want to go withtheir sexuality and what they can and what
can't is and isn't acceptable with them, then you got to take with that
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the reality that comes with it.They're not a wilt, wilting flower.
Okay, they're not some innocent littlebabe in the wood that butter wouldn't melt
in their mouth. Don't give methat bullshit, all right, Sorry,
Like dude, I'm not I'm nothung up, all right, But I've
been with chicks whose team photo farfucking surpassed mine, and truth be known,
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probably most of them, except formy first couple sexual encounters. Most
of them surpassed mine. Because womenare the sexual gatekeepers. You can't take
rape and sexual ass out, sexualassault out of the conversation. A woman
has to let you fuck her.Yes, you have to make You have
to either make her fall in lovewith you or make her desire you to
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where she finally goes. We canfuck and the story all right, and
believe me, the better looking theyare ever since what Chris Rock say,
You've been getting dick offered to yousince you were thirteen fourteen. That's why
it doesn't have any value to you. Can I hold the door for you?
Can I give you some dick conversationMe and my ex wife kept having
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the last few months. How canwe don't have sex? I'm like,
I'm a guy. You just gottatell me when. But yes, you
are the gatekeeper. You are thedeciders exactly. Okay. We want all
the power and control. We wantto decide when and when everybody has sex
ourselves and you. Okay, fine, we've relinquished that control. I know
I know plenty of friends. Ihave plenty of friends and family who have
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ruined their entire lives over chasing ass. They they fucking have destroyed their lives
over pussy, okay, and welet them do it. Well, why
did none of the responsibility come withthat? Why is it always our fault?
And it's the and it's the sameshit that goes once again fucking an
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NFL news Richard Sherman goes berserk.I heard Earl, you said, what
three different fucking stories you heard abouthis domestic assault or something westic? He
did a hit and run and hedid run away from the cops. I
was like, what the fuck didhe do? Okay, now here's my
point. We'll get we'll get deeperinto that in a secondment. Here's my
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point. He gets arrested. There'sthree Earl read three separate stories presented as
fact about this situation. We stilldon't know the facts in the situation.
Domayne Haskins fucking wife heat the shitout of him, knocked his teeth out
and is arrested. And it's nota fucking story, okay, mom or
something Jesus, because it doesn't followthe narrative. Boom So it's not hard
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to figure out, folks, itreally isn't. That's the sad part.
They're doing it right in front ofyou, and they're they're looking at you,
going, you're not seeing what you'reseeing? Oh, yes, the
funk I am? You know here, I'll play the devil's advocate. Is
she gonna get punished as much asa man would? But she won't she's
not, Oh, of course not. I have an ex who starting out.
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If Wayne Haskins did that to her, he'd be in jail right and
now he'd probably be out of nobailout bail, Yeah, if he gets
out bail, Yeah, he'd bebeing held without bail. The trial,
the trial by media would already beunderway and over. He'd already be guilty.
So I don't care to answer yourquestion. I don't care what her
punishment is, probation, whatever.No, she's already not as punished as
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Richard Sherman. He is being heldwithout bail. She is not now the
latest I heard today as far asRichard Sherman was. Apparently now they're reporting
so we can add a fourth storyto this, that he was drunken and
threatening to kill himself when cops arrived. How that is, uh, domestic
assault? I don't understand. Whatare we now if you go to commit
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suicide, are we considering that domesticassault? So we could throw men in
because we can't invent enough bullshit reasonsto lock people up in this country.
I feel like this question has tobe asked. Is this in California?
Well, where's he play for?Where's he from? Where do you go
to college? Where do you goto high schoe? And it's especially minutes
offseason. He's at home, He'sprobably in he went to Stanford, he
plays for the nine hours. Oh, he's in Seattle. All right,
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the same real applies. It's whatI said to California. He's in a
very he's he's in a very wokepart of the country. So generally the
laws are probably designed to come downharder. Here you go, all right,
I can play this card. Andhe's backing up another black man or
some bullshit. See, this isthe beauty of it. This is what
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I love. That fight will happen. It won't happen on Front Street in
the media. That fight will happenin comment sections, in op ed pieces,
in sports, on sports talk radio. Because you will have a segment
of people who call in and go, this is bullshit if this was a
white player, and they'll give youexamples of white players that have gotten away
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with it. And then people willcall up and go, we don't even
know what the fuck happened. Howmany fucking stories have we had me?
I'm just doing this is This iswhat I took away from the situation.
The facts as I know it is. He was taken into custody. He
was charged with domestic violence, drunkendisorderly resisting arrest. He was denied bail.
I don't know of any situation wherethey deny bail. That's not like
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a capital fucking crime like d youspoken into existence. So I'll just be
the the guy that's I mean,I could right away. The first thing
that jumps to mind is an incidentat Ohio State. Did that player ever
get charged with anything, or thatcoach ever get charged with anything? He
got fired? We know that.Other than that, we know he whipped
on his wife. Urban Meyer knewabout it. He got fired. And
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then that's did anything ever happen?I don't know exactly. They they stopped.
Well, see, but that thatgoes back to now shit of my
own argument. Richard Sherman's rich.So there's that equation too. Yeah,
so it's the Ohio State University sayinguniversity came out with a big ats brew.
Richard Sherman can buy white justice,all right, Let's be honest.
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Well, when it comes to OhioState, I feel the same way about
Ohio State as I do about youof them and any other major school who's
who's trying to protect their brand.Dude, you call in a lot of
favors when you're trying to fucking sweepshit under the run. And let's be
honest, Ohio State, there's moreat stake for them than their goddamn football
program. It's a major part ofthat school. Do not fucking get it
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twisted. But there are entire trunksof that school that have nothing to do
with that goddamn fucking football program thataren't going down over some bullshit. And
the people at the top run OhioState and make sure that they cast their
checks because that's who they get paidby. Are going to protect that as
long as and as hard as theycan. I think that's part of the
reason that story got buried, andthe UFM story has been buried. I
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haven't heard shit about that in twoweeks. That's fucked up, man.
That's that guy's worse than Larry Nascer. That guy's got almost three times as
many people as Larry Nastter. Youhaven't heard shit about it outside of the
state of Michigan. Have you seenthis on earl? You watch ESPN all
day and I'm not I'm being serious. I'm not trying to to you know,
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cap on you you've seen Doctor Andersonand the ESPN at all. I
haven't damn thing or heard a damnthing on my news here on ESPN on
my alerts, nothing about you.I'm the only thing that's come across my
phone about Michigan is that goalie thatdied. Yeah. Now, now that
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is the blue wall of silence youtalk. I mean, but are you
shocked because look at how many howmany journalism people have went through you of
them and have ties to it?Oh yeah, they won't say shit how
many? And then let's let's let'sjust say fifty percent of them can be
can be fucking can be guilted intoyou know, come on, do it
for Bow and you know Chrysler,and come on, buddy, you know
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in all issues, how many peoplejust won't do it because because it said,
oh, well that's where I wentto school, you know that there's
people that are probably doing it.I can't. I can't talk about my
school like that. Really, Soin justice only matters to you when you
don't like the like you know whatI'm saying, Like where you apparently have
a line. If there was aboogeyman, this would be enormous news.
There is no boogieman. Try topoint the finger at bow. I've told
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you guys, even if you triedto point the finger a boat, you
have no proof. Dude. Wewe covered We covered this fucking well enough.
We don't need to go back overthis ground. I agree with you,
dude. Yeah, A large problemof this is there's no fucking sexy
money shot at the end of theYeah, there's no one to parade in
front of the cameras and cuffs exactly. And because it is, and it
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does, excuse me not is allegedlyaccording to some people, and it appears
to me I have no facts.I have no proof. This is not
a claim of factual information. Appearsto me this is a generational thing.
As far as turnover in the highestparts of U of M and keeping it
hush hush. And if that's thecase, they're really going to cover their
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asses. And by the way,I did think of this point after we
talked about it, and I wantto get this out there for all the
people who are like, oh,bo, it's just a pawn and this
and that he went to the athleticdirector and he didn't listen. At the
end of his career, Bow wasthe athletic director. Everyone forgets that,
Yeah, could have removed him.So yes, he is a piece of
shit. And see the difference,the difference between Ohio State University and you
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of M and Penn's State and RichardSherman is Richard Sherman is dealing with Richard
Sherman incorporated. That's it. Hedoesn't have the full power of three of
a university and all its alumni andtheir fucking money and power to fucking cover
his ass. He's on his own, all right. And that's the difference.
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That's why these stories get buried.This one didn't. And you've gotten
what Earls had has read three separatestories. I read a story this morning
literally two hours where we started recording, saying that something completely different than the
stories he read. And that's that'swhat passes for journalism these days. Guys,
we could do that. Where's ourfucking six figure checks? Really,
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I'm not even exaggin, I'm notI'm not joking. There's no smile on
my face, there's nothing. Thesearen't journalists. These are bloggers who get
paid like professionals. That's all thefun they are. And this is a
journalism that we that we listened toand with Richard Sherman. Not only does
he have none of that, hehas no team. If I was Richard
Sherman, I would go full mafiaon this bitch, because anything, any
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chance that I have of signing witha decent team now gone. Richard Sherman
is a free agent. No,he is a free agent. He has
no team. He has become afree agent this year. He can be
corner for the Lions. I wouldn'tbe mad I went either. However,
I said, a good team,right, Well, yeah, he ain't
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coming here, he he, hewould just laughing. Hang up, he
already did. He already did whenhe was coming out of Seattle. We
tried and he went to fucking SanFrancisco instead. Don't remember that a team
that went to the Super Bowl inthe last three years. Yeah, he
made the right choice. Yeah,he went there, told us to go
get fucked. Yeah, he says, well he should have. Well,
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now he's fucked. So how youdo it? Rich He's fucked. With
the millions of dollars he's made overhis career, he'll be fine. Well
yeah, but if he wants toplay out the rest of his career,
he's done anyways, isn't he inhis mid thirties? He is? Yeah,
how many more years he's realistically got? He ain't Tom Brady. He's
in a position that gets hit twothree tops. But that's two three of
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very good years from Richard Sherman.He's not the schuckdown corner he used to
be, but he's by no meansdone. I'm being dude. He's the
type of player. I don't knowif he's willing to do this, but
just the eyeball test, he seemscapable. They could pull a fucking Rondey
Barber moveing from corner to safety,get a couple extra years out of him,
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you know what I'm saying, andhim be effective at that position,
because that's Ronde Barber. Was stilleffective at that position even though it wasn't
his native position. So, Imean, he's thirty three. Are we
gonna be mad that we missed thirtythree to thirty eight? I mean we've
seen that, we've seen the goodpart. I get what you're saying,
bro, And usually I'm with youon this stuff, but I think you're
just fucking you're just you're riding toohard on this one. This time,
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you're leaning too much into it.Like he's an athlete who one is ridiculously
smart. I don't give a fuck. You don't go to Stanford if you're
dumb even to play football. Ilike his attitude, like he's like you
talk about a competitors. He's aguy. He puts it all on the
field every time. You have youever heard somebody talk about Richard Sherman played
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a lazy game today? No,yeah, half assed. Yeah they're not,
but it happened when he won thefucking Super Bowl. Even when they're
getting even when the team he's onis getting fucking housed, he's still giving
one hundred percent until that fucking buzzergoes. I mean, and a smart
individual with a high football like youcan buy himself a few extra years.
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As long as he still has reservesfrom from athletic ability to pull from one
will will compensate for the other.There will reach a point where every athlete
can't do it anymore physically, though, And I will say to Ice,
is he really done? Kareem Huntstill playing football? Antonio Brown just won
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a Super Bowl? This is reallyyou think this is really gonna kill his
career. I think it's gonna makehim hard to get a job. This
year, Tyreek Hill is still numberone receiver. Hold on one second here,
this year. No, Kareem Huntgot signed the fucking year. Then
he kicked up girl's ass. Hegot signed like eight weeks later. Okay,
but hold on, hold on beforewe before we jump off into into
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the land of nonsense. Let's we'veheard we got four different stories. Let's
go with the one I read thismorning. Let's say that that's the actual
one. If the man was havinga mental breakdown for whatever reason and was
drawn and was writing to kill himself, that's gonna make him look bad in
the eyes of certain people in theNFL, But it's not going to blacklist
him from the NFL. I mean, house parking lot with a shotgun in
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his mouth and got signed to theBulls bo Zach grinky fucking He literally was
under contract and walked the fuck awayand went to go work at an insurance
agency. They sent a guy fromthe head office to his insurance agency and
he's behind the counter working on apolicy in a suit and tie, and
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he goes, you're supposed to bepitching in a few days or in a
few hours, and he's like,I'm done. He came back and won
a World Series. You know whatI'm saying, Like, if there's something
to work with, these people willsqueeze it out of you. Can you
can you imagine the people who gothis business card? He sold a few
policies to Wait, you're you're you'reWait you have the same name. No,
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I'm him what I'm here on myfantasy baseball team? What the fuck?
Yeah? Some women don't start youtonight. Yeah, like I I
you literally just pitched five days ago. Yeah, I don't, I don't
anymore. How the fuck does that? My divorce didn't you My relationship didn't
end that quickly, you know,like any relationship, and even my first
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one. But yeah, no,So that's what I'm saying, if that's
the case, he'll be all right. I mean, and look, here's
the deal. I like Richard Shermanfor what I've seen of him. He
seems like a cool guy. Mightbe a little intense and passionate, but
whatever. I get accused of thesame thing at times, so, you
know, and he's rich If RichardSherman squared off on me in the middle
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of an argument, I'd be like, oh, why, you know you're
going to win, right, You'rea professional athlete. You could literally whoop
everybody's in this house's ass. Wejust line up and you would whoop everybody's
ass. Line us up and smackus like the three remember, right down
the line. But yeah, it'slike I yeah, he seems like a
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genuine guy, but he but usuallygenuine people have a hard time in this
world because this world is fake asfuck, and he is in the sports
slash entertainment in world, which iseven more facas fuck. Maybe he's having
a meltdown, Maybe there's something inhis personal life. If that's the case,
I don't think we should plan thefuneral. The body ain't even at
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the fucking morgue yet. You knowwhat, I'm saying now, if it
comes out that he whooped his oldlady's ass and beat up a bunch of
cops and shit, I hope youhad a good fucking financial advisor, because
I think you've probably done like deadserious done, like in the NFL.
Never like you will be blacklist likeRay Rice done. Yeah, I mean
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it doesn't. I don't think we'veseen the last of Richard Sherman on the
field. What I'm trying to sayis decent. I got a chance to
win one more title before I leave. Teams. There's plenty of teams.
No way, he's too good.Teams is better than I do that have
signed troubled some people. Dude,fucking what's his name, Deshaun Watson is
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still gonna play football this year.Richard Sherman will be fine. Well,
I mean there is there's one thingI think we can all agree on,
at least because we have a trackrecord to prove it. If there's like
dash cam or bodycam footage of himbeating the shit out of his wife or
girlfriend, it'd be out by now, though, you'd figure we'd have at
least heard about it. But it'sonly been a couple of days, right.
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I mean, let's be honest,your prosecutors probably and thus the prosecutors
in Seattle's retarded. They're handling thisvery carefully because they don't want any fuck
ups one way or the other.I mean, especially especially like a fuck
up along the lines of oh youused to drug and rate bitches to the
tune of like hundreds of them overfifty years. Oh we fucked up.
You can get out of prison.We made a clerical error. Go ahead,
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mister Cosby. You know what I'msaying, Like, they don't want
to fuck up like that. Ifthey got them dead to write on some
shit, they're probably playing it closeto the vest. But what I'm saying
is if that video comes out,we all know it's over with. But
I think the video would be outby I mean, just my example is
that Britney spears audio from a coupleof weeks ago. That ship was out
fucking minutes after that hearing was done. I just think we live in a
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world right now where it's people willget paid for that ship. I think
if it was available, it wouldalready be out. I understand what you're
saying, and we'll never really know, Like what I guess like TMZ pays
money. Like like remember that shipwith Morgan Wallen, that shit, Like
that shit happened overnight. By morningit was everywhere. That was somebody's fucking
ring doorbell cam. I'm just like, that's I just but no, I
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got you. But at the sametime, Brittany is a fucking spectacle.
She's not an artist, and she'shas a conservatorship over her that has an
interest in making painting her in avery bad light, you know what I'm
saying, Like, there's there's manyparties who who's paycheck and their next meal
depends on keeping. But that audiofrom it was from a zoom chord hearing.
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It was like from a municipal likethat, That's what I'm saying.
It was. It was allegedly supposedto be super secure audio, and like
minutes after that thing was done,it was on the internet because some fucking
intern who wanted to have a bonerand be like look what I did,
fucking put it out. I justthat's I'm saying, like, I think
people are so fucked up now thatif that was available, it would be
out just because people suck now Andit's well, I mean what then Like
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I said, I haven't heard anythingabout it. I'm just saying, if
there's any point in this process,I don't give a fuck if it exists
or not, it doesn't matter tome at this point. But if it
does come out and there's video andwe see it and it's released to the
public, he's fucking done. Ohyeah, because yeah, we all know.
We're all picturing it right now,that ray Rice video in the elevator,
because we've all seen it a millionfucking times. That's what I'm getting.
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For whatever reason, we can,we can bomb, we can bomb
fucking people in other countries and killus and fucking children and civilians and shit.
As long as we don't see it, we're fine. But you show
it to us and all of asudden, you're an asshole. Now where's
my trigger warning? Bull Shit?You know what I'm saying, And I
mean, that's that's I mean.And if he whooped his wife's ass like
that, well, if society hasdeemed that, if you are caught on
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tape getting whooping your wife's ass,that's the end of your fucking career.
You're no longer allowed to be afunctioning member of society. Because we don't
want you, I guess, sobe it. What can we do about
it? Hey, mine as wellkilled her because you're as good as a
murderer. So is that what saveKareem Hunt? She wasn't. It wasn't.
His wife is just some rando.I have no idea that way he
plays football now, see but thisis But doesn't this speak to the arbitrariness
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of how shit is enforced and standardsare applied. If you're good, you're
fine. That's what. That's why. That's another reason why I think it'll
be fine. Tell me about thecourt hearings Deshaun Watson has coming up,
John Watson has coming up his trainingcamp. If you're good, what's like
Michael Jackson? Right, if welike you, whatever, we tweech it
under the rug. Wait, butdoesn't it bother you, mister Chappelle that
(01:05:40):
Michael Jackson might have lusted children hemade Yeah no, But but you can
know what I'm saying, right,Like it's he was bad. Man.
If all of a sudden they werelike Tom Brady, you know, some
fucked up comes out about Tom Brady. No one's gonna care because he got
seven Super Bowl rings. I wouldI feel like, how the hell well
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comes out about Lebron? Nobody wouldcare because he's Lebron. If you're good,
If you're good, it doesn't matterof sports, music, movies,
fucking whatever. If people like youand you're good at it, unless you're
Kevin Spacey, you're fine. Amatter of fact, the only bad thing
about Tom Brady that was ever saidwas by his wife Giselle that he gets
(01:06:25):
all these concussions, and everybody's like, no, shut up, tom Brady's
never had a concussion. Jizel wasmisspaking. Oh no, I've been a
lot more about top bad about TomBrady said, you're forgetting a couple of
years ago when we went over,we spent almost a whole episode on that
goddamn article that was all anonymous leakscoming out of fucking New England. And
(01:06:45):
then what a year later, he'sno longer in New England. He's in
Tampa band He's on a mission,you know what I'm saying. So I
mean maybe that article, there's there'sa lot about Tom Brady's an asshole.
Everyone was get sentitional athlete. Heleft somebody knocked up to go be with
Giselle. Everyone forgets that boom,Bridget Monahan was pregnant, and Tom Brady
went, peace, I'm gonna bewith Chazelle. Now, yeah, and
(01:07:06):
I mean, here's the things fun. But again, but I wouldn't kick
Bridget would I wouldn't kick her outof bed for eating fucking crackers were coming.
But we're proving the point, right, he wins, he's good fucking
How many people you think really knowthat about him? Probably not many.
Well they're you know, okay,so that well, what do you guys
(01:07:27):
mention look at even look at theshow with Polichick or not politic with Craft.
Right, for a minute there,it was all a horrible person,
sex trafficker, this and that ratethey went another super Bowl, Moody fucking
cares that you like to go tothe rubbin tongue. No one should have
cared in the first fucking right,Yeah, like you because they weren't sex
trafficked in. They weren't miners,they weren't fucking sex slaves. That all
(01:07:48):
that See, that's that goes backto that people can't fucking use anything against
you that you said did or leftonline. They go, I assume you're
racist, And that's all the proofI need I'm assuming that she was a
sex slave trafficked. Then that's allthe proof I need. So yeah,
I mean, I don't know oneof you guys did bring this up.
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I'm sorry, I can't remember ifI think it was Earl. But we're
talking about Richard Sherman. You're like, you know, we look at this,
look at this, look at this, and he brought up the race
thing. Well here's something that Iwant to you know what, for all
the fucking Dan ain't racist, Danain't racist. What the fuck let's talk
about something that might be racist,because I'm almost convinced that racists definitely played
not almost, I'm convinced racist playinga factor in this. And that's that
(01:08:35):
fucking that that the chickspread from theOlympics. Oh okay, yeah, that's
talking to Earl. We're probably goingto be in a couple different sides in
this one. She carry richardson.Ye yes, Now here's my thing.
Okay, this is this is howI am looking at it. Initially,
she's one, she's set a worldrecord in women's running, correct. Yeah,
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okay, so she's one of thetwo fastest people on the planet that
we have recorded, and she's notin the Olympics. Yeah, why because
she smoked weed and supposedly that's aperformance enhancing drug according to the IOC,
Let's strip away everything. There wasa rule and she violated it. You're
right, you're right, You're right. Here's my point. The most decorated
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Olympian in the history of this countryor in any recorded history of Olympics is
Michael Phelps. Michael Phelps. Iclearly remember in two thousand and seven watching
videos of him doing six football andrips. Correct. Michael Phelps also didn't
drop dirty when he was getting readyfor the Olympics. Michael Phelps new to
put the weed away when it wastime to get ready to go to the
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Olympics. Okay, well, oror he just okay, go ahead,
hold on, so okay, Iget you, well, okay, well,
let me so that he broke hedidn't break a rule because she dropped
dirty. I get you. Now. It doesn't matter to you that that
rule is complete bullshit and we allknow that that's a whole but anything,
it's a different it's part of thediscussion. It's not a different discussion.
(01:10:04):
It's part of the discussion. Comeon, now, it's a bullshit bust.
It isn't about that. The ruleis bullshit. It's about it is.
It's a different conversation because another pointI'll make with Michael Phelps. Or
also maybe he knew how to fuckingnot drop dirty because right now, Kevin
Durant, Kevin Durant, we allknow Kevin Durant's relationship with weed. He's
(01:10:25):
very vocal about it. Kevin Durantright now is passing piss tests for the
Olympics, just saying okay, okay, an wait, let me go.
Wait she she yes, she shefailed to piss test. Yes, she
smoked weed, She was suspected,suspension was lifted, it was done,
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she served it gone, and theyleft her off the fucking tea. Yeah,
because they don't want the fucking bullshitthat comes with her off the team.
The team kept her off the tea. Okay, So don't try to
say she knew the rulings she brokeit. No, wait, hold on,
Chris, hold on, hold on, how is it? Why is
your bullshit that comes with her ifshe served her suspension, because Michael Phelps
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was suspended. But what they didwith Michael Phelps was you're suspended for a
month from the US Olympic. Youknow you can't do this, and you
can't do that, or whatever thefuck it was. But not during the
Olympics. We're back to if you'regood people look the other way. She's
one of the two fastest people onthe planet. She don't have as much
hardware as he had when he hadgot caught doing that ship. She hasn't
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gotten hers yet. Well. Aninequality no matter who it's all right,
excuse me, an injustice committed againstsomebody, no matter who it is and
name of what is still an injustice. If she didn't go on TV and
admitted that she knew the rulings shebroke it, she'd be in a lot
better shape. But if you knewthe rule you broke it, What the
fuck are you whining about. It'slike applying for a job with a drug
test pissing dirty and going why thefuck did they get the job? No,
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she served the time for doing thecrime. Why is she not?
Fuck the one meter individual because theydon't want to be because maybe the team
doesn't want the liability. Fuck thatdude. She doesn't matter because guess what
it's Hey, it's in the wordteam, team. It ain't all about
you, sweetheart. We're a team. We're a team. There are other
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people on the team. The wholeteam doesn't need to get fucked because you
can't put down the weed. Iwatched the Olympics religiously, and I'm saying
it. I hope that team finishesoff the fucking podium, and they deserve
it because because they don't want onewhat they suck, because they don't want
one selfish person fucking up things they'vebeen training years for fish person. Do
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you understand she knew the rule thatshe broke it? You fuck yet,
that's selfish. It's absolutely selfish.It was it was all about her.
She didn't think about the other peoplewho've also been training for fucking years to
get to the same spot. Sheonly thought about her in that moment.
Yes, it was selfish. Okay, whatever, there's other people on that
team. It ain't all about younow shed time she should be on that
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team. So okay. What I'mtaking away from this is, if I'm
wrong, let me know, Chris. You're like, well, Phelps,
this is the most decorated fucking Olympianever. That's why they fucking put up
with it. Her not so muchso. You think they're looking at the
risk reward fucking factor, Dane,and they're saying there's more of a risk
with her than a reward. Didyou call me the businessman? That is
(01:13:27):
exactly how they're looking at it,dude, that's what Who just told you
whatever? And who's actually sitting heretrying to clarify shit? Yes, I
understand, I agree, No,I get it, you know I'm But
my point is this, then whatthe fuck is going on that we don't
know about? And here's the deal. Your expectation of privacy is now done
because not only is her dirty laundrybeing aired out by her, but the
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US Olympic team aired out her dirtylaundry. Richie just hid He aired out
her dirty laundry. So if theydon't want her the team for other reasons,
it's a completely valid journalistic question togo, what are those other reasons?
What problems does she bring that MichaelPhelps didn't. Maybe, yeah,
maybe she's a shitty teammate. Youjust you just hit on it. We're
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only hearing about the weed. Maybeshe is a nightmare teammate. Maybe she
sucks to have on the team.Maybe she's not good for morale and if
that's the case, that compounded withwhat she did, does paint it as
a selfish act, not an actof someone like Look, okay, I
know I'm supposed to have empathy andcompassion. Her mother died, she was
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trying to deal with it. Iget it. Believe me, I've turned
to the bottle a few times drinkinglike normal people, you know what I'm
saying. Like, I've turned tothe bottle more than a few times in
my life. I can't judge anyonefor fucking doing that without them to being
a hypocrite. However, I nevershowed up drunk at work, you know
what I'm saying. Yeah, toyour point on that, Yeah, that's
(01:14:57):
a valid point. Now. Iguess where we disagree is. I'm sorry,
y'all made this a national, fuckingnational y'all made this a worldwide story.
So any journalist worth a fuck isgonna go h I have a lot
of follow up questions and ain't noneof them about weed at this point.
So I mean, what the fuckdid she do to where you won't even
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let her back on the team.What is going on here? And if
they go, we don't air ourdirty laundry out in public, be like,
then, don't bother calling us nexttime with some bullshit breaking news that
got us here in the first place. No one pays attention to your ship,
but two weeks out the fucking everyfour years anyways, go back to
obscurity, cocksucker, That's the endof it. This is all because people
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are too fucking delicate to deal withthe truth. Because let's be honest here,
if it comes out she's a shittyteammate, we have a hard time
in our society reconciling the fact andsomeone can be good at one thing and
be a horrible person. Why becausewe're perpetually five years old. I guess
we're obsessed. We're obsessed with everythingbeing fair, and by the way,
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fair means we get our way allthe time. You know what, I'm
gonna say this, and I ain'tsay no more about it. I haven't.
I have a very kind of justvery strong relationship with weed for something
completely different, Okay for me,I don't see it as illegal, I
don't see it as bad and anyaspect ever, well, it ain't up
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here in Michigan either. But I'msaying, like the conversation people are having
with this is the wrong conversation.I'm going to hang on a minute,
and I'm gonna go back to thestart of this podcast today. If being
a bitch is what gets her tobe the fastest woman on the planet,
then so fucking be it. I'llput up with her attitude for a minute.
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I'm gonna remember this the next timeyou bring up college football teams and
how guys shouldn't think that they're morespecial than the others and they should always
be about the team. I'm gonnaremember this conversation, bro, if you're
the first one to bag on playerswhen they skip bull games, because it's
the team and you've all been doingthis for years and you're a unit and
this and that, oh and doan individual thing. This was an individual
(01:17:02):
act, or she didn't play asa team. That's one thing. You
don't compare apples and oranges, hossthe saint of college football team. It's
still an athlete on a team.It's an athlete on a team. It's
apples to apples. The sport isirrelevant if you're on a fucking team and
you compete. You're on a teamand you compete. The sport is irrelevant.
If you're on a team. Youcould, Pete continue, I just
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said the sport is irrelevant. Itshould not be about It ain't about you,
it's about it said. It's shewas putting the she was putting all
the work all those other team membershave done at risk because she by breaking
a rule. Okay, and shebecame a liabilitybody else at risk. Yeah
she could do something that could getYeah, if she could, she could
(01:17:45):
get the fucking team disqualified from fromthe event. Yeah, she could an
error. She served the time,and then guess what. Sometimes there's more
consequences for your actions. Sometimes it'snot just one. Sometimes sometimes there's ancillary
consequences to your actions. Sometimes youever heard of the butterfly effect. Earl,
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you say that you know she's puttingthese people at risk, No,
she ain't. She's putting the teamat risk, the whole, the whole.
She drops dirty during competition, theentire team the planet. You're ready
to listen, or you get rinningout, or she drops the dirty during
the competition, the entire team getsdisqualified. Not just her right now,
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just her you get to the fuckingOlympics. The entire team gets fucked.
Okay, how many times can yourmom fucking die, dude, So drink
like a normal person. So whatso we make it special axemption for you
because you can't handle it? Ohyour mom? Guess what. Everybody's parents
fucking die, right, and alot of people turn to weed. A
lot of people turn into a lotworse. Rich just talked about turn into
(01:18:54):
a bottle. Michael Jordan's dad gotmurdered. He played the next fucking day,
Okay, And that's him and that'sthe way he dealt with it,
beautiful. Do you know that hedidn't take a hit off of blood?
No, because there was no fuckingsocial justice back then. There was no
Internet. You wouldn't hear about itunless somebody came out and squat. It's
funny the things you choose to bewoke on their ice. It's hilarious.
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It's us, dude. It's thefact the chick had some issues mentally physically.
Then I'll say the same thing aboutI did about it name osaka.
Then maybe being a pro athlete isn'tfor you. All shit, dude,
she took a hit. I didn'tsay that. She was right. I'm
a giant stoner. I host aweed podcast, and I'm simply saying from
this standpoint, dude, there wasa rule. You broke it, you
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knew it, you admitted it onnational television. Sorry about your luck,
and then shed consequences to your actions. Right, and she took him,
and she took him and she servedit. What the problem is now put
up behind us, and now theteam is chosen to not want the liability
going forward because they can and welcomefor that. Okay, hold on,
(01:20:00):
hold on, hold on, holdHong Hong, finish off. I got
how about this? Ask this question. I'm pretty sure we know where you
stand, earl, but you canchime in here. But I want to
ask Chris first, if it wasyour decision to keep her off the team,
would this have been this? Ifit's just the weed test, just
the weed test, would that havebeen enough for you to be like,
I'm not taking the risk on you. Yes, because she admitted that she
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did it knowing the consequences. Tome, that's a selfish person. How
are you going to be in theheat of competition. I mean, that's
see now that I can understand,because here's the deal. She did come
out. She took responsibility. Shesaid she didn't try to say someone slipped
me something or something. I don'tknow how someone slips you weed anyways,
but whatever, Sure, well nowadaysI guess you can do it. You
(01:20:45):
can just hand them in a weed, drink and it. They're too stupid
to smell it, they'll drink it. But whatever. But you know what
I'm saying. No, I wouldsay. I would literally say exactly what
I said to Earl, Like,right now, this happens to you,
you just get penalized. We allget there. This happens, the whole
team gets disqualified. Everybody's been workingtowards this, not just you. You
chose to to beat this about you. Well, you can now take your
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punishment. This has happened to heronce in her career. This is not
something and guess what, bet youwon't do it again. This is not
something that's been an issue. Thisis not something they've been afraid of.
The woman was this person? Youonly killed one person. Hasn't been an
issue before this person. That's kindof what you're doing. I took a
(01:21:28):
little bit of fuck all right,Yeah, yeah, I had a moment.
Okay, yeah, suspension, Yeah, that's my bad. I only
beat up his wife once. It'snot an issue when you Okay. She
to me, this is like,it's weird because I don't you're both on
You're both on your own brand.You're both on brand for your eachypt for
(01:21:50):
yourselves, at least from my pointof view, because it's making sense here.
Chris, You're like, yeah,it's team sport. Your mom died.
That's a rough situation. But youdid something you that you see yourself
admitted, no knowingly did that wasgoing to fuck your spot with the team
and possibly fuck the team. That'snot a good teammate. In my book,
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Earl's coming from the point of viewof she was in pain. This
was her coping mechanism, pain particular. I understand that. Okay, No,
it's in the Michael Jackson drop,Oh that's pain all the time.
I thought you said, I thoughtyou said you said. I thought you
said that she was in pain allthe time. I'm like, both my
parents are dead, bro, Iknow how it goes. It sucks for
a while, like me in theroom for like forty five minutes a full
(01:22:34):
Jackson anyway, podcasting for nobody,Right, So I understand where Earl's coming
from. And even though you twoare button heads and doing it enthusiastically.
You're both fucking I'm like, Iunderstand where you're coming from. I don't
(01:22:55):
agree one hundred percent with either ofyou. I think you're being a little
bit harsh Chris. But at thesame time I get the mindset. I
do believe there has to be somethingwe don't know going on underneath the water,
because I can't believe this is alljust about I mean, I mean,
one bad decision. I can't goas far as like the night Dombrowski
picked up Cabrera, that should havebeen it. I see a dude,
go be someone else's problem. Ijust had to bail you out of jail
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during the playoffs. We're done here. God. The fact that he was
drinking with the fucking team he wasplaying the next day, it was to
me, is the I mean,I'm talking about, why are you out
drinking the night before a one gameplayoff? Yeah? For starting? Second,
let's start there. Yeah. Secondof all, why are you doing
it with the team you're going tobe playing against? Do that after the
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game's over? You know what I'msaying. Like, here's the thing.
Let me say this. I seeChris's point. I'm one hundred percent against
it because and just because of thatright there with Cabrera. Look, this
is a one time incidence with her, This is a one time thing.
And her whole fucking career one thing. Her mom died, She has some
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missues, She turned to a copingmechanism, Cabrera, all types of drunk,
all types of issues, and thenduring the playoffs you get picked up.
Yeah, okay, and I gottabail you out. Okay. That's
not a good teammate. Cabrera,not a good teammate. Her issue one,
it's not an issue, is itpossi? The circumstance surrounding your mistake
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doesn't fucking matter. That's the us. Something like half the people we talk
shit about all the time, Youstill made the mistake. The circumstance around
the mistake doesn't fucking matter. Youstill did it. It doesn't undo it
it. You sound like the peoplewere talking about all the time, the
chickmates. One fucking mistake and youwant to end it. Yeah, that's
what happens, dude. You makemistakes. There's consequences, especially when you're
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on a stage like that. Shefucking paid it. She served her suspension.
Yeah, and the team decided theymoved forward without her, like we
don't need this, we don't needto take this to Japan, and she
can't go into the individual Sporty ChristoperMedia dot AD Christopher Media dot A.
Sporty, do you say that you'reboth arguing on an assumption that neither of
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you know jack shit about. Andit's kind of it's it's it's kind of
it ceased to be amusing and it'sstarting to be annoying now because we don't
know if it's the weed or somethingelse. I highly doubt one of the
best chances of winning Gold is goingto get the boot from Team USA unless
there's more going on underneath the waterthan we know. Just because the duck
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looks peaceful uptop doesn't mean he ain'tpaddling his ass off underneath the water.
All right, I want to knowwhat the fuck's going on besides the weed,
because and int the mcvel cabrera thing, Ilitch dealt with Bob Probert,
he learned from his mistakes. Theywent to They went to mccabrera and said,
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we lost Game one sixty three.We're not saying you're the only reason,
but god damn it, it didn'thelp you go get dude, everybody
forgets his ass. Went to rehaband they made him go to fucking marriage
counseling or you don't play for us. But by it was that simple.
So they called him on being abad teammate. We knew there was other
shit going on. He had adrinking problem. The team underestimated how bad
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it was they saw it because rememberthat's only two he'd only been here two
seasons. At that point, wereally didn't know anything about me. He
came here in ninety eight. Thiswas in two thousand and eight. This
is in two thousand and nine whenthat Game one sixty three happened. So,
I mean, it seems like TeamUSA has either got a bunch of
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fucking Puritans on it or there's somethingmore that we don't know about. And
yeah, you know what, earl, You're right, one fuck up shouldn't
end your career. But that's notthe way that if you look at the
way and go the world and goI want it to be the way it
should be, how I feel itshould be. You're gonna be in for
a lot of disappointment, dude,But I don't think it should end her
career. She'll probably be back infour years. She's twenty one. But
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Sean Watson, we're talking about Phelps, We're talking about all these people that
have all of this ship that theydo, and yet they're still gonna play.
This chick has her mom died anda couple of other things going on.
She hits a fucking dubie and thenext thing you know, she's the
worst person on the planet. Dude, you're you're saying she's the worst person
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on the planet. And no,she hasn't proven herself yet. She has
zero gold medals, she has zero, she has nothing. Michael Phelps fucking
is a world record holder. Shehas the world record for being the fastest
woman on the plane. Right,you ain't got a medal, ain't got
ship. She was going right now, She's in possession of something that can
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be broken. You can't take agold medal away, you can break a
record. And this is why Chrisand I will never be on a team
together. I'm just saying, likeMichael Phelps, if he put all his
hardware around, he'd be hunched over. Michael Phelps has proven himself. But
I'd also like to point out thatMichael Phelps is either a very savvy business
man, or it is smart enoughto surround himself with savvy businessmen. Because
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when he got that suspension, theway it worked, if you guys remember
technically he was no longer considered anamateur athlete during that suspension, and that's
when he started chilling for subs forsubway. Oh yeah, And wasn't he
like that. Wasn't that when hewas like racing the shark and shit,
yeah, all that bullshit. Yeah, he got paid, served his suspension,
and it was like went back toliving the paper lifestyle. The IOC
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demands their athletes live like quote unquote, you know what I'm saying, like
like, okay, we're gonna actlike you didn't make all this money over
the last six months shilling for subwayand racing sharks for fun. And I'm
not saying your career should go at. What I am saying is like,
you don't get to play in thesereindeer games. You fucked up on the
way to these games. No,so you've you've proven you're gonna be a
liability in Japan. Oh shit.Look, I don't know enough about women's
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track, the US women's track teamto tell you the inner workings of the
ship. But to me, atthis point, y'all are pissing in the
ceiling fan and we're just covering everybodyin your urine because we don't know.
Let me finish, Please, dude, I'll let you to go for ten
minutes. Please. Okay, ifthey fucking if the if the Olympic,
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if the Internet, if the USWomen's Olympic team or track team whatever continues
to not have her on after theseOlympics and she continues to be one of
the fastest people on the planet,let alone America. Yeah, then you
know what, we're probably gonna hearthat there's some other problems coming down the
line. Can we just be honestabout that because right now you're aren't You
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guys are arguing your feelings about asituation that we don't even know if it
exists. Okay, ear, yougo ahead. There's been problems and the
women's track sent all the way backbefore Jackie Joiner Like, what uh do
you know of a runner named Jojo? You flow Joe now, Lawrence Johnson?
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No, okay, stop, you'rekind of sending laughing and tell us
who this person who nobody knows whatyou is? See, that's just it.
Everybody knows who she is. Butshe was, um, I don't
want to say curbsided, but shewas downplayed by the woman's track team and
then ran and trained and ran andtrained. It was ready to go and
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ended up training so hard that onceit came time to go to the Olympics,
they were like, Noah, we'renot going with you. Why and
just left? Why why did theyleave her? Why did they abandon her?
S we lose? Yeah? No, Why did I have no idea?
Why why did they let her onthe team this year? I don't
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know. So you're saying, forshit they did years and years ago,
they're racist. I didn't say theywere racist. I don't know. That's
that, that's what you were layingdown. You're trying to say that for
no reason, they just abandoned ablack black woman who was ready to go
for the Olympics. Is that?Is that not the point you were trying
to make for no reason? Andit's something they did years ago, right,
for no reason they made public?Okay, okay, so okay,
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so the slavery existed, all whitepeople are racist? Is that? What
is that? Where you going?Earl? Come on, dude, come
on, come on. Well,he's trying to say that for something that
happened years ago, the IOC nowis racist. No, I know,
I think running team for freemales arefucking retarded and they should finish off the
fucking podium this year. That's whatI said. Had nothing to do with
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race. Yeah, I don't know. I took it to mean that he
thinks that there's Sorry, I'm I'mgonna I'm gonna speak like he ain't on
the fucking call, earl. Sorry. I took it to mean that he
was saying that this proves a precedentthat the US Olympic team, you know,
buries it's fucking dirt in its ownbackyard and doesn't you know, doesn't
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make it public. So we're youknow what I'm saying, if they did
this to this woman, why wouldn'tthey do this to this woman? If
there's other shit going on that wedon't know about, They're not going to
air their dirty launder and prove youroutlandish point, is what I would say.
If that's what he's saying, Imean, is that what you're saying
or all Yes, that's it,that's it, all right, I said,
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Joe, Joe, it was LoloJones. Do you guys know her?
Oh? Yeah, I know Lolojo Yeah No, didn't she do
some it's Quincy Jones daughter. Yeah, I know her. Lolo Jones was
ready to go into female American running. When you pull up Lolo Jones on
your Google app, you're gonna seean American bob's letter. Okay, that's
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all you need to know about Americanfemale tracte. So you're saying that there's
fuck are we going on, eitheron the athletes part or the fucking decision
makers part that we don't know about, or both of their parts that we
don't know about. Yeah, okay, do you give hurdler and bobsletter who
specializes in a sixty meter and onehundred meter hurdles. She won three nc
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DOUABA titles. Yeah, and accordingto her Wikipedia, she's going on qualifying
for the two thousand and eight BeijingOlympics. She tripped in a hurdle and
finished seventh place and that's why shedidn't qualify. Okay, So see if
everyone facts are in your face,you're just blowing it off. Okay,
this is great. I mean ifthe point is is that there's fuckery going
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on, okay, but she finishedthe seventh place to qualify. That's why
she didn't go that. Yeah,that's not I don't have to speculate on
fuckery. Hey, Chris Well,explain this one almighty one. She tripped
in the hurdles, she didn't qualify. Why the fuck is she an American
bobs letter, Dude? She joinedthe bob sledding team and did well at
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it and qualified the bobsled team becauseshe tried a different sport and was good
at it. M hm. Butshe tripped and finished seventh place. How
is it? Chris? Hold on? Hold on now, now you've pissed
me off with your bullshit. Okay, fuck your bullshit, say your fucking
(01:34:08):
point, or shut the fuck up. I dead. This cryptic fucking bullshit
is for the birds, bro,It's a fucking podcast. The point.
So your point is something's going on, but I don't know, but I'm
gonna act like elaborate on your point. It's an audio medium, it's it's
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made for it. I've said mypoint like eight times. Dude. Yes,
they're they're terrible, but it's notterrible. Finishing seventy place isn't fuckery.
It means you didn't qualify. That'snot fuckery. That doesn't pos your
point. Athlete that wins three NCAAtitles and is a fucking runner to her
core leave the sport to go toa different sport. I don't know.
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I'm not the woman's personal fucking assistant. What fuckery going on? And then
because she switched sports, because sheswitched sports because they won't allow this chick
to join it. They didn't allowshe didn't qualify. There's examples left right
to your center to show you backto living in reality on reality's terms.
Dude, if she it doesn't matterhow good she is, If she didn't
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qualify in the qualifying race, sheain't on the team. You can't go
to the Olympics and not qualify forit. That's one year. Why not
go back and run again. Idon't know the woman. I don't know
her motivations, and you're acting likeyou do. And when we go,
what's your motivations? You go?Maybe she saw a cooker path to gold
being on the bob sledding team becauseshe could use her same skills as a
(01:35:34):
fucking hurdled runner on the bobsled team. Like, dude, you're making declarations
like you got fucking stone cold factsin your corner, and then where we're
like, okay, what's the facts, you go, Oh, that's what
I'm saying. Now. If youwant to parse all this with this is
all speculations, Fine, I'm downto sit here and play the what if
game. But I'm not gonna playthe what if game and try to pass
(01:35:55):
it off as I know you don'tknow shit you're guessing it is speculation,
but from what I've seen and withthe runners that have been in this country
that have qualified that have when itdoesn't it just something's wrong. You're right,
something's wrong, and for whatever reason, Okay, your mind automatically goes
(01:36:17):
to the people in control are fuckingaround. Okay, Chris, in my
mind seem to be going to ifI'm gonna, I don't mean speak for
you, but our minds seem tobe going to there's more going on behind
the scenes than we know, andwe don't know who's fucking around, and
it could be multiple fucking situations.I'm just like, just from a regular
(01:36:38):
job standpoint, unless it's something superegregious, you don't generally get fired over
one thing. It's been a bunchof things building up, you know,
unless they catch you like straight upstealing money or like or you know,
like fucking grabbing like you know,somebody's boob, you know. I mean,
I ask yourself, ask yourself this, earl. Maybe maybe this is
(01:36:58):
they Maybe this is a learning momentfor you. I don't know. There's
a quote, Okay, Arthur ConanDoyle, famous creator Sherlock Holmes, greatest
fucking fictional detective in the history ofthe fucking of whatever. All right,
Yeah, and his famous quote thathe put in the mouth that detective was
when you're looking for the truth,and here's a direct quote, once you
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eliminate the impossible, whatever's left,no matter how improbable is your answer.
If there's something going on with them, the women's Olympic track team, Okay,
we don't know about it, butI do know what all US,
Russian, Japanese, Chinese, whateverOlympic teams do, which is do whatever
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they fucking can to get the bestpeople on their team to win gold.
So if they're keeping her off theteam and using the weed as an excuse,
what else is going on? Yeah? And the fact that why would
they not want her there? Yeah, there is because you're assuming why because
it's not about racism. You've saidthat, No one bring up racism from
(01:38:05):
here on out regards to this subject. It's out of the discussion. Okay.
It's like my dick and Jennifer Conley, it never exists. Okay,
Now it's not racism. Is itsexism? No, it's a woman's team
sexism. Get it out your motherfuckingcocks sucking miles. Okay, Then what
is it, dude? Aavoritism?I don't know, dude, I'm not
here. You're giving me something?No, now like that, at least
(01:38:29):
there's something to go on besides gruntsand half fucking half chuckles, Because I
was like, what is what areyou trying to say? You feel there's
fuckery going on? We feel there'sfuckery going on. You feel the fucker.
He's more on the end of thepeople making the decisions. That's what
it comes down to, is whatwe're saying here. Am I correct?
Okay? To me, it hasif any Olympic fucking organic team wants the
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best on their team, and we'llfucking lie, cheat, beg, Borrow
and steel to get that person onthat team. So for them to turn
down someone who's proven once she's thefastest person on the planet. Yeah,
there's got to be other ship.Now let's bring this up to the IOC.
Not exactly the most ethical bunch ofpeople either, and they still don't
want to deal with the like,did you let's say, there's which is
(01:39:17):
the only way? What're you're saying? Where the smoke? There's fire?
I think that's what we're getting athere. And and I know smoke is
probably the wrong or maybe the rightmetaphor to use here, but as smoke,
yeah, I guess yeah, like, yeah, yeah, fast.
She would give that team an ede. She you said she is the fastest
woman in the world. Why wouldyou not want her on your team?
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I think just the weed is they'vebeen It was the weed, it was
the rope they gave, she gavehim the hangar. She's probably a horrible
teammate, probably a whole bunch ofother ship And this is just an excuse
they go, finally something something actionable, we can get rid of you.
Now here's my problem with that.Okay, we tell people, we tell
we tried to, well, weused to tell people and show especially children,
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take responsibility for your actions. Blahblah, blah blah blah. But
she stepped up, she took responsibility. She admit it. I did something
stupid. I knew it would fuckme or had a very high probability of
fucking me. And I'm sorry.Okay, we're glad, you're sorry.
Please don't make that mistake again.But every action has consequence. I said
(01:40:23):
that acknowledging your accountability is only halfof it. It doesn't. It doesn't
free you from consequence. It justmakes you ethical, It makes you an
actually decent person that you are goingto acknowledge that you did something wrong and
now you're gonna take your punishment insteadof this this whole society now that thinks
nothing is their fault and everything issomething or somebody else's fault, and it
can't be me because I'm so wonderful. Yeah, and I mean, can
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we be okay, let's I mean, let's just be honest here. If
this was a twenty one year oldfucking kid in fucking the n NBA,
NFL, NHL, MLB, whatever, we'd albviously here and well it's a
dumb fucking rule. But what thefuck, bro, how'd you get caught?
Yeah? You know what, I'msaying like we would. We would
have never say here and fucking opinedfor forty five minutes about whether or not
(01:41:10):
she would he was being treated unfairly. We'd be like, how dumb are
you to get caught? Oh no, we're still sitting here going who's the
stupid fuck who gave the high guythe fucking Stanley Cup? Now look at
it? Yeah, Well, theother question of high guy in Tampa right
now is the entire city before wemove on to that said, the other
question I'd be asking is like,how'd you get caught in the NBA?
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What are you stupid? The NBAdon't even look for it anymore. In
Darren McCarty's book, This is inthe nineties and two thousands NHL, it
wasn't considered a performance enhancing drug,but it was a banned substance, so
every time he'd take a pits test. No, I'm gonna put this to
bed and the words of the GreatRobin Williams, weed is not a performance
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enhancing drugs. Garrett shoe to finishedlast in any sport. Of course,
you put a chocolate bar at theend of the fucking runway. That was
never the argument, but I getwhat you're saying, Well, this way,
it was presented by quite a fewmedia outlets, and I'm like,
really, really, and and IDEOsay, the people who wrote it don't
(01:42:17):
know what wheat is. I wouldcall it a band substance before I call
it a performance enhancing drug. Iokay, no, I would agree with
that. Apparently she thinks it's aperformance enhancing drug. Robin Williams was referring
to win the Canadian snowboarder got hisgold medal taken away. Yeah, for
use it for smoking wheat. Well, unless there's a chocolate bar at the
(01:42:40):
end of the runway, and thenI'm there. You know it's not a
performance answer. I'm just gonna behonest. Um, If a guy taking
six foot bomb rips and a chicksmoking a joint are two of the best
in the world at what they dophysically and athletically, can we put this
weed is fucking harmful as alcohol andany other drug bullshit to bed because dude,
(01:43:06):
lung capacity seems to be working finefor both of them, stamina seems
to be working fine for both ofthem, and they both have sport that
need both badly. I mean,and you're right, Chris, I didn't
even think about that. All thestories I read that called it a performance
enhancing drug said the IOC considers ita performance enhancing drug, not the team
(01:43:27):
USA considers it a form in performanceenhancing drug. So it might be You're
right, I didn't even think aboutthat, thank you. They might be
the corrupt ass IOC fucking just IOCgonna IOC. You know what I'm saying,
It's just that's how it is riedweed. That's what the question I
would And this is probably more tooall the racism and all that other bullshit.
(01:43:48):
This is probably more about where theIOC and these are our rules and
you broke them, you can't play. That's really what it probably is.
Good IOC is not like being shruggedoff all your That's really what it probably
is. Where the IOC man,Yeah, they're like the NC DOUBLEA or
FIFA. They think they're above anything. They really do. I mean,
(01:44:11):
and they're dude, they're one ofthe most powerful fucking non like that that
ain't Disney type corporation, and butthey are a corporation, but they're you
know what I'm saying there, Iguess there definitely a big player in sports
world. FIFA them and the NCDouble A and NFL, i'd say,
are probably the biggest for on theplanet in sports world. So there you
go. But all right, yeah, okay, Jesus fucking Christ, let
(01:44:32):
me hold on a second. Letme hit some performance enhancing drugs after that.
Right, Well, it is forit is for podcasts. That puppet
show of a fucking penance we justfucking put on for you. Sorry Jesus
that if you listen through that,you must have done something bad in a
former life. So anyways, inTampa, they're acting like it's the end
of the fucking world and they feelfine, and you know what, I
(01:44:55):
dude, more power to them.Tampa's fucking like little mini title town.
Now. But bro, you gotthe Stanley Cup that goes back quite a
way. Can we not drop themotherfucker point it's in Florida, The answers,
no, Well, dude, someof the best places it ended up
in a strip club in Vancouver wasstrippers fucking like humping the cup. This
(01:45:21):
is before cell phone video ended upin the bottom of a pool in Dallas.
At Yeah, the Dallas Stars werepartying with Pantera of all people,
and brought the cup and they werelike who's left? Rex and Phil like
(01:45:43):
the oh no, dude, thisis Oh yeah, the Abbitts are dead.
Yeah yeah, I'm talking about inthe history of the standing like,
oh, this ain't the first timethe ship you know, some foll shits
happened. And I don't know howfactual this is. I've never heard this
until the other day online take itfor what it is. And I was
reading an article about it. Inthe comments section. One guy's like,
(01:46:04):
well, it's a good thing thereal Cup never leaves Montreal. And I'm
like, oh, so now wegot conspiracy theories about fake cups and ship?
It was was? Was? Wasthere a fucking another pop guy on
the power play on the Grassy KnollMontreal? You know what I'm saying,
Like, you salty cocksuckers. Yougot called out for losing the Stanley Cup
(01:46:27):
and you should have been for theway you acted when you won Game four.
You didn't win the Stanley Cup.You have to make a historic comeback,
act like you fucking scored a goalbefore, skate off the ice and
prepare for Game five? What theydo party like they just wanted the Cup,
went down to Tampa and got butfucked Oh yeah, oh well,
oh well, that's what you gettwenty seven we are We're the Yankees of
(01:46:51):
the NHL. Well, and thatin five bucks will get you a small
fucking coffee if it Starbucks two cupsin a row. Are we still hanging
this, son, Steve Eiserman?Can we well the fact that there's we
don't have time because we have aheart out. But there's a lot of
payroll fuckery going on behind the scenesin Tampa with contracts and putting players during
(01:47:17):
the regular season on injured reserve andbringing them out during the playoffs, and
apparently that doesn't count towards the salarycaps. So the team that was on
the ice in the playoffs was eighteenmillion over the salary cap for the regular
season. The only reason I bringthat shit up is that shit ain't got
(01:47:38):
nothing to do with Isiserman. That'sthem moving around to pieces that he put
on the chessboard he made. Imean he ain't been there in two years.
Yeah, he made a lot ofthose signings, He made a lot
of those moves. He okayed thedraft into those guys. Well he's at
GM. He drafted those guys.But there's more to it than that.
And I think like pretty much hisfingerprints are a little bit on this cup,
(01:48:00):
not as much as the previous one. And like the farther away from
you get yeah, next cup ifthey if they win next got if they
win next year. Jesus fucking Christ, Florida will fucking become a hockey goddamn
state all of a sudden, likelike everybody will be love hockey in Florida
because that's that's a front running fuckingstate. Sorry, if you're from Florida,
I lived down there. Hey aboutfootball teams down there, But y'all
(01:48:23):
are some front running motherfucker. Wegotta ask this question, right, all
the things you just went over,and in fact, it's been Florida for
two years, do you think thatthing's been peating? Oh? Yeah,
The next logical question, do youthink someone shouldn't it? Interesting? Yes,
baby diaper, it's documented. Yeah, actually yeah baby has Yeah,
you're right, Yeah, you're right, Yeah, I do remember that stuff.
(01:48:45):
I was gonna say. Interesting sidenote, out of all of this,
I've never found anything where somebody hasdropped it on the ice. Rich,
No, it's never been dropped onthe ice when they're standing in their
own I don't get it. Astired as they are, as beat up
as some of these guys have beengrueling Game seven, triple overtime, and
they're dead because they're not drunk whenthey're when this cup, because they're not
(01:49:11):
drunk, and adrenaline takes over onceyou win. That's why. Yeah,
but adrenaline. I'm still going withmy first comment. They're not drunk a
little, you know. They theyfall going from blue line to blue line
in the game because of a crackor something, or their skates aren't sharp
or whatever, and they don't havethe stick to balance out nothing. I
want the blood alcohol content of theperson who downed the cup, and that
(01:49:34):
will That will boy, that willboy. My argument, it's not just
the drunk thing. I'm thinking withall of the teams, all of the
players. Yeah, dude, they'venever dropped it. Okay, God,
what is there another point to this? That's the fucking point I was trying
to make it. It's we gota hard out, let's go. I'm
(01:49:54):
just saying it's not that they're drunkor anything. I just can't believe it's
never drop on that ice any I. And before the Red Wings picked it
up in the fifties and skated aroundwith it. No one had ever done
that either. It's like, youknow what I'm saying, Like, this
isn't fucking like, dude, TheStanley Cup didn't used to be this big,
and it never gets any bigger.They retire rings of it to the
(01:50:16):
fucking Hockey Hall of Fame. Thatway, it stays the same size and
relatively the same weight. And yeah, you're absolutely right. The one time
that it came close that I sawwas in two thousand and two because Scottie
Bowman knew he was retiring after winningthat Cup and he went to the locker
room between winning the game and thecup presentation and he put on his fucking
(01:50:38):
skates and go back and look atthe fun on YouTube. Look it up.
Look up the video of the RedWings celebration for two thousand and two.
He's got the cup and it's upin the air and there are a
lot of motherfucker's following him making surethat if he's the cameraman even pans down
at one point and you see himstep over a camera fucking chord or cable
(01:51:00):
and they were like, well,it's a good thing that the coach Bowman
didn't slip there, that'd be thefirst time the Cup's ever been dropped during
the celebration. And it's like,yeah, dude, that's a big thing.
The guy that does that is goingto be infamous in hockey history.
Rich, you lived in Florida.What do you think is the most Florida
thing this cup has done? Cocainein Miami. Like, here's the thing.
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Yeah, Tampa's nowhere near Miami,but Florida is Florida, right.
They call I for the Coach Corridorfor a reason, you know what I'm
saying. So that's where they usedto you know. And I four runs
right across the state in the TampaSo yeah, um yeah, dude.
Probably, Like I know that there'sbeen apparently. I can't remember who it
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was. It's a story from theseventies. I think it was one of
the Flyers supposedly involved in the sexact. That's about right for Philly.
Uh yeah. And I'm like,I it is the town that threw batteries
at Santa Claus and punched a policehorse. I'm like, I never heard
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any explanation of what sex acted.I'm imagining anything anything on the Stanley Cup,
any hole, anything, in youknow what I'm saying. Yeah,
well, if I think he beatoff into the cup, that's the only
Paki session and it's in some Hey, come in my room. We're all
gonna beat off into the cup tomake this bitch drink it. They Oh,
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you might have just been on it. We're all gonna jerk off into
the Stanley Cup and you're gonna drinkit. Because I paid you a thousand
dollars for the night. I'm gonnaneed more of a thousand if I'm right.
Yeah, if I'm guess what ratejust doubled. But uh yeah,
there's there's gonna be some interesting movesin the NHL. Tampa's gotta deal with
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their fucking salary cap issues. Butto me, the the two biggest stories
in the offseason are gonna be Oveskin'san unrestricted free agent and apparently gave an
interview saying that he would it's hishockey dream to play in Montreal one day.
Take from that what you will,um and you have completing seeds,
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Spoon and Perezi getting cut by theWild And if you know hockey, you
know who they are. But forthe uninitiated, they were the the what
was it summer twenty thirteen. Ibelieve they were the prize offseason free agents,
and up here in Detroit, Ohmy god, the battle cries to
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sign both of them was fucking ridiculous, I remember, and they ended up
both signing with Minnesota. Apparently Minnesota'scutting contracts and just saying we're done with
you, thanks for nothing, havea nice career wherever you can land.
And I doubt they're gonna fucking pullup, you know, let's go fucking
take our talents somewhere. I thoughprobably split up, but I can't help
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but think that it's not necessarily theirfault that Minnesota the Wild didn't have success
on their tenure, because it's theMinnesota Wild. I mean, start with,
who's the coach. You have allthe great talent in the world.
If they don't get in any direction, they're just gonna fucking yeah, Edmonton,
looking at you, dude, fuckingJesus Christ. Sometimes sometimes a winning
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coach ain't the right coach. Thinkabout um Babcock out in Toronto. Yeah,
he had a fucking A plus pedigreein the NHL. The only two
teams he'd ever coached the NHL,the Ducks and the Red Wings, went
to the Cup finals with the Ducks, won a Cup with the Red Wings
and went to another Cup finals.Goes goes Toronto with all their fucking shit
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that all the draft picks, highdraft picks, young talent, they had
shits the best and then the movethat is really interesting, Sorry Edmonton,
Edmonton got our old GM ken Holland, and ken Holland went out to Edmonton
and did ken Holland things like tradingfor Duncan Keith a well, the shambling
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body that used to be Duncan Keithfrom Chicago and bringing him to Edmonton.
And it's like, and that's goingto solve your fucking problems, and you're
gonna take on that ridiculous contract he'sgot. That's wonderful. So yeah,
there's it's gonna be an interesting offseason. If Eveshkin ends up in Montreal.
I really like Evehkin. I reallydon't like Montreal, but it's god damn
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man, like, don't make mefucking don't don't do that. Come on,
come on, make him a capitalfor life. Just sign him for
the rest of his career. Washington, and I mean, you know,
and then then I mean, thisis this is only interesting if you're really
into the fucking Red Wings. Butapparently Tyler Bertuzzi has interest from other teams.
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I've heard five different fucking teams areup to five teams are interested in
him. Eisman is not a dumbGM. He's never is. At least
he doesn't have any track record tobe in one. If he's smart,
you play every offer you get onthe other four until you get the best
offer and there's no more left.Like dude, if you're gonna move him
and you got that many teams interested, it's a seller's market. You get
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your money. Boo boo. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,
get fuck you pay me. Youwant him, You're coming up off
some shit. How much you wanthim? You want him, and you
can fucking have him. I mean, because, like dude, I don't
wish he might. We don't know. Once again, Eisman was smart enough
to shut the fuck up and justsay what he needed to in front of
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the cameras. Behind the scenes,apparently he's a different guy. There's been
stories that have come out now thathe's been retired for coming on twenty years
about how much shit he would talkon the ice. We didn't hear that
in Detroit when we were younger,not at all, like some of it
was like Joey Kosher's like, youknow, many times Bob or I had
to go out there and fucking backhis ass us up because he was talking
shit. And I'm just thinking hehad the Bruce Brothers. What I'm like,
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I wonder how much shit he wastalking when he had Stu Grimson over
there. Not much because he wasa healthy scratch most nights. We got
our enforcer in. No, Okay, I'm gonna be quiet this game.
Yeah, I'm just gonna play hockey. But yeah, no, so there's
gonna be sinesting moves. But Imean local teams, Hey, we completely
forgot about it. And MLB Draftjust came enough to say this real quick,
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Detroit win. We're going with thefucking Astro's model of how to build
a winning franchise. They drafted afuck ton of pitching. That's what they're
counting on getting them through. Sothere's that. But to me as fucked
up as this, this is tosay, if you look at I know
baseball is a grind, it's along season, but if you look at
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their record, Tigers have they've actuallyshown improvement this season. I think if
out of the Red Wings and theTigers, I would trade someone like Tyler
Bertuzzi if I was Eiserman, becauseyou ain't nowhere close to fucking competing for
a cup. Tigers might actually beclose enough to where they could pick up
like a lower tier free agent,especially you know, since they're wanting that
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that shortstop spot filled, go pickup one with a decent bat that you
can get on a decent fucking diamondcompete for the central we need. They
need a punch, they need aperson that's going to get other people to
come here. Well, Pudge wasjust a goddamn fucking that was just divine
intervention dropped in their lap because Pudgewas exactly what they needed. He was
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the rob rock guy. He's agood clubhouse guy, and he was a
leader who's like, I don't acceptany excuses about me. Look at my
hardware. What's your excuse? Imean, But he brought Maglio and then
after that it was on. Likeonce Pudging Maglio were here, I mean,
it was fucking game on. Allthe free agents started showing up two
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thousand and four, Pudge two thousandand five, Mags Farnsworth, homeboy who
used to close for the Angels,who persival? Yeah, anybody blew out
his arm? Yeah, two thousandand six, I mean it, Polanco.
We traded four in the middle ofthe season, picked up Sean Casey
right before the fucking at the tradedeadline. Blah blah blah, on and
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on and on it all. You'reright, it all started with Pudge.
But Pudge was the right guy.They gotta say, if they want that
again, they got to sign theright guy. Didn't punch replace Brad Asmas.
I believe so, No, No, I think in two thousand well,
I think you're right. Yeah,and I know that he played.
He did play for position afterwards,after for Matt, after lands parison,
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Matt Noakes. After that, theTigers catcher position was garbage until Pudge showed
up. That's why I remember it. I mean it was was playing catcher
for a while, remember that.Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I
mean it was just it was awaste land I remember. Oh my god,
we gotta catch her. Holy shit, well awesome. This is a
good defensive field general type catcher wasI mean he was. He was just
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like he was as a manager.Oh there was nothing. Yeah, he
wasn't great, he wasn't amazing witha bat But what's more, we can
really get lost in a minutia this, but in a catcher if I'm as
long as he's not if he's JohnnyBench or or Pudge Fisk, you know,
Carlton Fisk. Okay, I'll builda team around him. If not,
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I'm happy. If I got one. I got two things. He
can manage a fucking pitching rotation inbullpen. He knows how to call into
their strengths and weaknesses, and he'srespected by him. And two, he's
a good defensive catcher who's behind thatplate. He's your field general positioning players
between batters. I'll take a fuckingguy who's barely hitting above the Mendoza line
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for that at that position. Areally will look a look at look at
MLB history, especially the last likefifty sixty years. How many former catchers
are now managers. There's a reasontoo, Yeah, there's a reason for
you're kind of you're kind of you'remicro managing the game for the manager.
Yeah. So, And I thinkthat's another reason Tigers had success because Leland
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knew he had total faith in Pudgetotal faith in fucking Pudge because think about
it, Once Pudge left of Vila, that was our big fucking that was
our our, our, our,our big catcher during that time. I
liked him because he fulfilled requirements thatI require out of out of a catcher.
But he was he didn't set theworld on fire. And he damn
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sure wasn't the clubhouse guy that Pudgewas. Nope, at all. He's
not a draw. He's not areason to sign with the franchise. So
yeah, so now that I've boardthat, you know, everybody with a
local shit, Yeah, that's aboutit. That's cool. We gotta get
out of here. It's true.Uh, thank you for listening, find
us on social media on so I'mstill gonna win, just so you know.
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Thanks Rough you got the NBA oneextra game. Leave it in the
hands of the officials. Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, well sometimes you don't have
a choice. That's really you hadthe Bucks whipped him by twenty the previous
game. Yeah, right now,it was so close this game because of
the refs. Anytime that the Son'sgot any kind of lead, refs right
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there dot calling foul calling mistakes onwho's got the possession, who the ball
went off of. That's why youneed to watch the game and not just
look at the stats. Wasn't ita West Coast Wasn't it a West Coast
game? I told you in thechat, I don't care. I wasn't
answer the question, wasn't it aWest Coast game? So are you saying
the home officials have it out forthe home team Milwaukee? Dude, it's
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kind of a northern type of game. I don't know. You didn't answer
the question. You just spat outa point. So it wasn't a West
Coast game. Na, I don'tthink it was a West Coast Jesus Christ.
I thought you watched the game.I don't know what you determined the
West Coast West conferences because if itdid, because if it was in Phoenix,
you're saying that the home refs areagainst the home team, and that's
ludicrous. What I'm saying is,and I said it in the chat,
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whether the wasn't Phoenix, You're you're, you're, you're No, that's the
next game. Hold on, Ifucking god, dude, No, it
wasn't Milwaukee, whether Milwaukee or Phoenix. And I said this in the chat
before the end of the game.It didn't matter who won. That ref
corps needed to be fucking fired.Why I don't have time for this,
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but why I think there's so manyfucking calls, dude, so many based
on your opinion, based on fact. Tomy watch the game. People touch
it last and they call it theother way. People it goes off people's
foots. They were like, Idon't know, it's still their ball.
What do you know they use insto replay, right, Yeah, but
you have to challenge it. Youonly get two challenges and if you miss
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it, if you're wrong, youlose the time out. Okay, so
the obviously, these these errors weren'tthat egregious for the fucking opposing coach to
challenge it? Damn game one timelease if they were that egregious, wouldn't
the coaches challenge if they have theability to challenge it, especially in a
game where it came down to likeit was tied, like the whole game
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stakes that a challenge would not havefixed it. They give, of course,
of course, that's what you comeback with. They get two challenges
too. They make two egregious errorsback to back, and none of them
were challenged so the coaches agreed withthe rests because they didn't have time.
Watch the coddamn Katie. If it'sin the last if it's in the last
few minutes, what do you whatare you afraid of? What are you
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afraid of? It from the lastfew minutes, I want to challenge the
ball was already put back into playby the goddamn reft. Dude, watch
the goddamn game. They didn't havetime. You're again making a grand statement
based on your opinion. Get agrand statement of stating effects. You're saying
the rests have it out for ateam, and you have no evidence but
your opinions. The refs fucking sucked. That didn't have it out for a
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team, didn't have it off forthe Suns, didn't have What you are
saying is an opinion. It isyour opinion of the referees. Fucking opinion.
Dude, watch the goddamn game.Please, when you watch the game
one time, then we can havethis conversation. I'm not an opinion.
It's not an opinion. Chris,watch the game so your opinion can match
an opinion. Pandy, it's afucking fact. I'm not saying they were
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for Milwaukee. I'm not saying theywere for fucking Phoenix. I'm saying they
fucking sucked. You said the restgame of the game, you said,
anytime Phoenix gotta lead, the refsmade a call against him. You literally
said that because they did, so, then you're saying there for Milwaukee.
Dude, they sucked period. Theymade calls against Milwaukee that We're like,
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uh huh, you're just mad becauseyou're saying the Sons are gonna win in
four and now it's tied. Yes, that's why you're mad. I'm not
mad because of that. I'm madbecause that sucked. Those refs absolutely.
I bet Bucks fans disagree. Dude. Three games, I ain't said shit
about ref even last one when theyon this one, the fucking raps fucking
blue shit about a game where theyblow out somebody by twenty points. I
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