July 2, 2021 • 40 mins
This week Chris, Rich, and the ICEman talk about: The NBA playoffs, Chauncey Billups and Jason Kidd, Scottie Pippen called Phil Jackson a racist, the Stanley Cup Playoffs, and Aaron Rodgers. Please follow us on Twitter @SporgyPodcast, or on Facebook at Facebook.com/Sporgy-Podcast-249725018706758/ Download the rest of our shows at ChristopherMedia.net
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Sporty, Christopher Media dot NetOp Media, dott and now your hosts. All
right here we are standing on theprecipice of fourth of July. I'm Chris,
I'm the ice man. No Rich, We'll be back next week.
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So the NBA playoffs, Man,A lot of shit has happened since the
last time we all got together.I've injuries. Just that that Bucks Hawks
series, I mean that's yikes.No Janis uh, he's no Trey Young,
No Trey Young. So I mean, I mean when the Greek Freak
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was playing, it pretty much lookedlike that that was that was the rap,
that was gonna be it. Butnow, I mean, flip a
coin with both of their superstars out, what do you think? I just
I think that I neither wanted towant to play the Suns. Are you
sure the Suns are gonna win?I'm positive on this one. Yeah.
They ended tonight, I mean againwith no Kawhi Leonard. I mean,
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they got a shot, but they'veshown their mortal a couple of times in
this series. Every now and again, the sunshines on a dog's ass.
So this was not going to sevengames. Do not place your bets on
that, Oh, the Clippers areat home. Yeah, dude, But
if I mean, if anybody watchedthe game, the buckets were just falling
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for La no matter what they did, no matter how far out they shot,
it was one. I mean afew times the bucket went in,
out and back in. It wasdisgusting. I was like, holy shit,
they cannot miss. And you know, that's how they have to play
if they want to win this series. Now, it doesn't happen, you
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know, all the time, justso happened that it happened that night and
he took it. They did inPhoenix's own house. Yeah, like embarrassed
him. Embarrassing, Yeah, no, embarrassed them. It was like twenty
points, not disgusting. The embarrassmentwas last night, one ten to eighty
eight. I mean, even withno Trey Young. I mean it last
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night made it look like, uh, the Greek freak is the bucks.
Yeah, last night made it prettymuch look like no Greek freak. We'll
see you later, NBCU later.I don't know. I don't believe that
it's as bad as people are makingout to be with these injuries. If
we have a, we have ait's it's the softer soft the soft NBA
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like you think these guys are likelike I mean the example we always uses
Kyrie, right, guy always getshurt and apparently playing through pain not in
his vocabulary. You think we gottaBut do you think it you think it
is that with the Greek freak,I mean because I mean they're talking about
mriyes and shit like this isn't likealmaee hurts like they're actually it might be
a thing. It's not a thing. It's not gonna be a thing.
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He's got a brew was basically runningup. I got a bobo, bobo,
good band aid. I got bobo. Don't give you in my eyes
for a bruise gonna be a bruise. Watch and see what I'm telling you.
It's not a big thing. Keepdoctor ice, doctor Ice, call
him it. Yes, I thesekids today just don't play through the you
know, a little bit of payton, a little bit of tweak, a
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little bit of all. I gotan awi. I got an awe and
they just sit down. I gotan awe. Dude, we're on our
way to the fun I got anawe. Okay, let to see if
this is all your opinion, you'reyou're not out there you don't have access
to the to the medical records.No, I don't let me. Let
me look up what they're they're actuallyinvestigating here. Well, I mean it's
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with everybody. Kawhi, Trey Young, the Greek free you pick your your
awie, dude. Yeah, theBucks fere uh that he might have a
severe ACL injury. Yeah, we'llsee in an aoie. Yeah, we'll
see what happens if he plays nextgame. Dude, He's not gonna play
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next game, but what if been? What if he does, then we'll
be playing hurt, thus shitting allover your argument. So you don't think
that they could say this to tryto funk with the minds of Atlanta.
It's not just a bruise. It'snot he's gonna be out. You ain't
gonna prepare for him, and thenall of a sudden, there he is.
Oh seeing he hyper extended his leftknee. Soft? How is it
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soft? The human body has limits? Well, then they need to learn
how to prepare. Dude. Okay, there's no winning this. There's no
winning this with you. You're justgonna call him soft. They are.
So I think he has an acl injury, and you're calling him soft.
If he has an ACL injury,then learn how to prepare. That's
a scre saying, oh, justdon't get injured. Yeah, it's that
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easy. It is that easy,dude. There have been more injuries in
the past three years in the NBAthan there was the entire nineties. That
you have to prove that statement.That is conjecture, sir. It's not
conjects as it is. Prove itbecause the past three years the major prove
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with numbers. Prove it with numbers. I am you are exaggerating. Stop
it. The past three years thequote unquote superstars, past five years,
the superstars have missed the playoffs inthe NBA finals. Give me one example
in the nineties where any of thefucking superstars weren't even in the playoffs,
let along the finals. No,go ahead, I'll wait. I mean
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I could find it, but sure, I'm sure it's happened. What you're
saying is you are making a crazy, outrageous statement that you need to back
up. You are, Yes,you are. It is an opinion.
Uh Matombo Jordan's uh pippin Uh.Anybody pick any of them any year,
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Kobe, whether whether they were hurtor not. You never heard about it,
and they played in the fucking playoffsand NBA finals. Dude, this
isn't just them, it's my favoriteteam too, with Golden State, going
back to Steph Curry and Clay Thompson. All right, so maybe they have
some severe injury. Learn how toprepare, dude, Just that simple train
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your body so that way it doesn'thappen. Don't tell me that shit ain't
possible. We've been through years andyears and decades of athletes that have trained
their bodies where they wouldn't mess upan MCL or an ACL or something severe
where they couldn't. Did you seehow the Greek freak got hurt. He
felt that he felt he got tangledup in a jump. So just train
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your body to not collide with anotherhuman being, that's what you're saying.
No, what I'm saying is justbecause you get tangled up once doesn't mean
you're fucking ACL is gonna be Hisname was hyper extended. It got it's
got bent the wrong way. There'sno training you can do. They can
fix that, they can guard againstthat. Some bend your arm the wrong
way. Your shit's gonna get fuckedup. Doesn't matter how how much you
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fucking train. You stick on thatside. I'm gonna stick on side of
soft. I mean, it's justyou're on the side of wild exaggerated opinion.
Okay, you can, you canbe on the side. No,
I'm on the side of what usedto be. Dude, what used to
be people would train their body inthe offseason and during the season, an
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open season. I don't care whatseason it was, people train their body.
You think these guys don't train.We've talked about this before, dude.
No, I don't think they trainlike they used to train. I
don't think they do what they haveto do to make sure this ship doesn't
happen. I don't think that they'regoing to spend eighty two games playing and
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then go into the postseason and gointo the fucking finals and not get hurt.
No, I don't. It happensevery year. It has been for
five or six years. I didn'tused to happen. You tell me why
it did happen. You're just you'rejust choosing, You're just choosing to spin
your own narrative that it didn't happen. It didn't even as early as far
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back as the go to work Pistons, all five of them. Now I'm
looking it up because you're claiming itever happened. God, oh wait,
well go go fine, Then youneed to look up. You need to
prove all these the dederated numbers you'rethrown out. I'll wait for you to
look yours up. I don't haveto. I was there. I watched
it. None of them missed exactexactly. Excuse you just because you because
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you know you're wrong. As anexcuse, Hold on, I'm gonna look
it up now. Let's see MagicJohnson eighty nine, Isaiah Thomas eighty eight,
Joe Johnson two thousand and three,James Worthy nineteen eighty three, Dirk
Nevitski two thousand and three, KendrickPerkins two thousand and ten. Yeah,
I'm meaning two thousand and nine,Derek Rose two twelve, Andrew Bogat twenty
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ten. It does happen. Ican't find a single go to works Piston
that was injured during their playoff roll. It doesn't matter you're are you?
It was about the league you said. You said you brought up the whole
league, not one team, andthe people that you said, dude,
those aren't the superstars of the team. Okay again, you're just you're always
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gonna You're always gonna come out right. So it doesn't matter what I say.
I could give you tons of documentedproof. It doesn't matter what I
say. Now it does matter whatyou say. But show me where there
has been a year other than thepast five years, six years where there
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have been multiple superstars out for theplayoffs and the finals. You can't.
I thought it just did. Younamed some some also rans, and it
was one a year no superstars,no multiple superstars, multiple in the same
year from twenty fifteen on. Imean, just keep just keep moving the
goalposts. It's fine, dude,what goal posts? That's what I'm trying
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to tell you. That's what's happening. You made a very hyperbolic statement that
is wrong. Which is which isyou said more NBA superstars are missing the
playoffs now than they did in thenineties, and that is wrong because you
can't back it up. No,it's not. It's only true if you
can give me the numbers, andyou can't because it's an opinion. It
is you are exaggerating the numbers.All I'm asking you is to tell me
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one year where there were so manyinjured players in one season. I can
do that for you right now.Yeah, because it's recent, I can
go back to twenty fifteen and doit. Oh wow, six whole years.
Huh. So that means I coulddo it the whole six years if
you like. But you can't backup You're only you can't back up your
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original statement. You're only backing halfof it up because there's no retort.
There's no storyline that says you can'tgive me one. Yes, there is,
you just can't give me one becauseyou refuse to look it up because
it's not there exactly exactly. I'mtalking to a wall, dude. Let's
just move on to something else.You want a story that's not there,
Chris, there's no story. There'sno story anywhere you or me or anybody
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else that looks up is gonna findwhere an NBA season was filled with injuries
in the playoffs and in the inthe finals. There isn't a story like
that. That's why I can't givea team. Okay, that's my point.
There's no story like that. None. They learned how to train their
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body back then. Today they haven't. The old guard as we call it
here, on the show. Knewhow to play, knew how to train,
could go eighty two games, couldgo into the into the playoffs,
could go all the way to thefinals, play every game that was needed.
These kids today don't. And ifyou're a Lebron, it's because of
the quick turnaround. No, butthe fucker wasn't because of a quick turnaround.
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It's been happening for six fucking years. Learn how to train. It's
not the first time we did thison the show, Chris. Now,
if you would have actually looked,there's an article that does prove you right.
If you would have bothered to look, go ahead. It's from the
New York Times from June sixteen.The NBA has already set a record for
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eight All Stars and counting that havemissed at least one postseason games. So
if you would have bothered to look, it literally the fourth article. When
I googled years where multiple NBA starsmissed the playoffs. I tried to tell
you, Okay, no, youdidn't. Fuck you, you can't do
that. You can't do that.Fuck off, No you didn't. You
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refused to do the word. Ihad to do it for you. I
had to prove because I knew Iwas right. There was a difference.
Yeah, but knowing you're right basedon just you think. There's a difference
between thinking you're right and knowing you'reright. You just thought you were right.
I followed the NBA for many amoon man, many decades. I
wouldn't say it if I thought Iwas wrong. Bullshit. You can't pull
that shit now. Oh, comeon, I told you there wasn't a
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story that showed multiple people missing thefucking playoffs because there wasn't one. You
found a story that just confirmed whatI just told you. Congratulations, all
right, So moving on, Iguess so, like I said last time
we talked about this, these kidstoday need to learn how to train their
bodies. They were doing something backthen that worked. I don't know what
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it was, but it worked.Today they're not doing it. It's been
the extra time in the gym.I don't know, but I'll refresh your
memory. Chris, we were talkingabout Lebron James and he needed time off.
He didn't want to play all thegames. That's when we had this
argument of how they were being soft. You can't play the regular season and
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now you're getting hurt in the playoffs. Come on, well, you actually
just kind of touched on it.I think we might have figured out or
at least might be into something whyall these injuries are happening. And it's
and we've complained about it the lastfew years on this show. Is the
NBA now goes out like the NFLin the final week of their regular season.
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They rest everybody, the teams thatare getting ready for the playoffs,
esp just because it's a fantasy basketballmanager. The last week of the season
fucking sucks because the NBA rolls likethat. Now you're you know, you're
you're trying to win your league andyou gotta fucking scrape the waiver wire because
all your studs are sitting. Somaybe that has something to do with it.
You know, these guys are gettinguh they're essentially taking a week off,
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you know, before the playoffs start, and then all of a sudden
they're getting injured. I mean,there might be something to that. I
don't know what it is, man, honest somebody that I'll be honest about.
I don't know what it is theydid or didn't do, but something's
wrong. They're playing less games duringthe season and they're still getting hurt.
In the fucking playoffs. So Idon't know, Okay, it didn't.
We also figure out less an aren'tthink they're playing like two less games?
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Aren't they playing like less than fiveless games? Isn't it normally an eighty
two game season and it was likea seventy nine game season or something.
Issue, Wasn't it not that muchdifferent? It was just it's not that
jammed. It was. It's notthat much week student COVID, but I
mean throughout the season regularly without COVID, they get rested, they have rest
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days. Well, everyone gets arest day, yeah, but it's it's
during the game they don't play becausethey just need a rest. And the
old Guarden never did that. Theyplayed every game they could. I don't
know. Maybe he's conditioning. Idon't know, that's what I'm thinking.
They don't condition their bodies to getused to putting it in that much strain
all the time. Or maybe theytrain too much. Do you ever think
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of that? Maybe they trained toomuch? I don't know. You look
at the freak and tell me thatguy don't train. Come on, man,
that guy's fucking. That guy's shredded, that guy's chiseled, that guy's
definitely getting his time in in thegym. I'm just questioning some of the
imageries. Like I said a coupleof weeks ago, like overuse is a
thing. It is a thing.But uh, when Russell uh was sitting
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there and oh my knee, ohmy this, oh by that, and
then somebody dumps popcorn on him andhe's ready to go kick the rass how
injury it is just saying you're that'sdone, it's over, it's gone.
I'm just saying, if we're talkingabout injuries in the NBA, how injured
are they? Yeah? The Greekfree might have an acl Okay, that's
one out of what six? Yeah, but there's also protocols that their trainers
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have to follow. I mean there'syou know a lot of times it's probably
not their decision. The trainer goes, Nope, you're done, I can
still play. Nope, you're Imean it's we we've heard, we've heard
throughout the years about guys who playedhurt and ended up sucking themselves up Further.
I mean there's probably you know,we don't know about all the ship
the trainers have to go through.Now. I mean, it could just
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be like if there's any sign ofyou know, especially to these guys are
considered commodities as well. I meanthey're they're revenue generating machines. The organization
could be like, you know,if there's any sign of distress, you
pull them, We do therapy,we we reassess the next game. It
could be a number of things.You know, we've come a long way
from throw some dirt on it.After that was a lot of NFL trainers
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in the sixties and seventies. Justrub some dirt on it. You'd be
all right. Put the bone stickingon it, take some tussing and put
the boat sticking out. Just rubsome dirt on it. You'd be all
right. Take a swig of tussand you'd be good. Yeah, let
the touson get into the bone.Sporte Christopher Media dot net. Christopher Media
dot net. Sportee wanted the greenChauncey new coaching. Yeah, the Blazers
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and not just Chauncey. Jason Kiddalso is coaching the MAVs. Now.
I know where you want to goat Chauncey and I'll get there in two
seconds. But we have two blackguys going to head coaching positions, and
you want to talk about goalpost moving. They thought, because of what these
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two men did in their past,that the woman should have got the head
coach position. Weren't they just bitchingthat there's no black coaches head coaches?
Yeah? Yeah, and then wegive they gave them two of them,
and then well yeah, but theywere, you know, women beaters and
women abusers. The woman should havegot the head coach. There's no making
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these people happy. Ever, that'strue. If you would have given a
woman the head coach from position,then they would have bitched that they the
black guy didn't get that coaching position. Or if it's a white woman,
why wasn't it a woman of color? No, it's I'm on the internet
and old coach. And to behonest, I don't give a good goddamn
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what Chauncey Billups did in ninety seven. I say, if the legal systems
had its turn with him, whatare we what are we doing? What
are we talking about the legal systemsfor? So it's I don't know.
I think Chauncey's gonna do a goodjob. I do. I think he's
gonna do a great job. Ishe a coach? Has he coached before.
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This wasn't he didn't he go fromthe NBA to be in a TV
star He did. I think hewas a watch colleague, a general manager.
I couldn't tell you where it.Wait, was somewhere in the Northwest,
I think. Okay, so whenhe with the Timberwolves or no,
didn't we get him from the Timberwolves. We got him from the Timberwolves.
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Yeah, okay, I don't know. I just I remember him being a
general manager. I thought, likethe Sonics or something. I don't know,
but I know this, Chauncey Bellottknows basketball. He knows how to
play, he knows how to win. That's part of record. So I
think he's going to do a greatjob. He's got good people on his
team. He knows how to movewhat he doesn't need and bring him what
he does. I don't know.I'd be excited to have him as a
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head coach. He has been theassistant coach of the Clippers since November eighth
last year. That is his coachingcareer. But that's it. His coaching
career is It's not even a yearold. November eight twenty and all of
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a sudden, he's the head coachof the Trailblazers. If I'm him,
I mean, it is what itis, whatever, But don't you think
that thoughts maybe in the back ofhis head, like did I get this
simply because of how the news isright now? I think off camera that
he asked himself a lot of questions. But at the end of the day,
who gives a flying fuck? Igot that coaching you've been You've been
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an assistant coach for fucking six months. Now you're a head coach. I
mean there's got to be a lotof assistant coaches out there'd be pretty pissed
off. But there's a lot ofblack assistant coaches out there pretty pissed off.
Like, really, six months hegets this job? The fuck is
this? Well? Everybody was bentwhen the white guy got the head coaching
position of the Brooklyn Nuts, SoI mean, I'd just be mad Jason
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Kidd was named the head coach ofmy team. I'm just regular season career,
his player career wasn't that great?Was he gonna bring us mediocrity to
coaching now too? From the MavericksI'm not happy, I should say,
Mavericks fan, Yeah, he hasn'tdone too much in his coaching career.
Either kid was coach of the NutsI think, Yeah, wasn't he on
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the Nets and he coached the Nets? Yeah? I think he also coached
the Knicks. I think you canbring up his Wikipedia here. He coached
the Nets for one year twenty thirteentwenty fourteen. Oh, he took him
to the playoffs. Only coached theBucks from twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen.
Oh. He was an assistant coachfor the Lakers twenty nineteen to twenty twenty
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one. So I mean, Iguess he has been a coach for a
minute. Yeah, but being atthe right place at the right time does
not a coach make. I mean, is he going to be the guy
that brings Dallas back to prominence becauseit seems like it's it's been a since
Nevitsky retired. I mean it's theypretty much kind of reminded me of the
Mavericks of the eighties, pretty muchirrelevant. They got that new guy,
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what's his name, Don Sick orwhatever, the joker. Yeah, yeah,
that's right. Yeah, that's wherethey're building came around now. But
Porzingis is still on there and he'shas been halfway to bust. But like
I said, being at the rightplace at the right time does not a
coach make. And that's what JasonKidd has been with the exception of the
Nets. You know, being inyou know, Milwaukee with the Greek freak
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and being in LA with well Lebron'steam. You know, it's a right
place, right time. You know, you think a good coaches like Phil
Jackson or Greg Popovich who was therebefore they were good, made him good,
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made the right moves, was ableto coach who he had. Those
are good coaches, one of them'sgreatest of all time. That's side point.
Phil Jackson was called the racist byScottie Pippen this week. Did you
see that? Yes? I sawthat, which if I'm Phil Jackson at
this point, I'm just like,you know what, fuck everybody like Lebron
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called Now he's got Scottie Pippot like, you know what, fuck you guys.
You know what, if there wasever a time to say, let
freedom ring, that's that, myfucker. Just hold up your hands,
Phil, You ain't even got toflip them off. Just hold up your
hands. Yeah right, What doesn'tPhil have a ring for every finger?
Even his stones? Yes, hehad six and Chicago and what five and
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U LA And here's the kicker.It wasn't a white guy that got him
the ring, any of them.There were white guys on the team,
but they weren't the essentials. Andwasn't this all over because Phil Jackson lit
a white guy take the final shotin a game? Yes? Wow?
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And it's how many years later,like twenty five? Are you serious?
And that coming from second fiddle ScottiePippen. Scottie Pippen need money or something.
He's trying to get some clicks,Like, for real, it's called
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a game. I mean, didthe guy who took the last shot,
I mean, I forget who itwas? Did he play the same position
as Pippin? Like it's called agame plan? Sorry, you didn't play
that position. That position was inthat game, that position, in that
particular play was going to take thatshot. I really think the place you
think the place had passed to thewhite guy? You serious? The funk
out of here had to get heraway from the posse that would be in
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the future. You know what,Honestly, that's just my opinion. You
could call him a racist, youdidn't call him anything you want to call
him. I'm gonna call him thegreatest coach of all time, like of
any sport or just basketball of basketball. There you go, that's fair.
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I'd agree with that quite honestly.Yeah, I mean, how can you
not. He went to two differentteams and did the exact same thing and
nobody could stop him. He's justgood at being a leader too. Yep,
you're keeping up at all with theNHL playoffs. I have kept up
with it, but I do too, especially since the awards came out.
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I really wanted to talk to Richabout the awards because Mark and Andre Fleury
won the con smythe and he wassat the last game that the Knights was
trying to make a push, andI'm like, how are you gonna sit
a Cup winning goalie? And isn'the quote unquote old Fleury? Oh?
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I thought he was an older guy, define old over thirty. Yeah,
he's a veteran in any sport ifyou're over thirty year old. I mean,
he's a veteran goalie, but he'snot like old old hike. Seriously,
dude, you need your stick tohelp you out on the ice.
He is thirty six years old.That is old for an athlete, sir,
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Yeah, but not really for agoalie, dude. I mean,
if he had to run up anddown the ice, I could hear you.
But for a goalie just kind ofsit there and stop the puck.
Drafted in two thousand and three.Understood, But again, he did just
win the con smythe so he's notthat old? Oh okay, okay,
okay, So we really you reallywant to do this because I make the
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same remarks about a thirty eight yearquarterback from Green Bay who just won the
MVP. Okay, all right,don't trap yourself. Don't trap yourself because
you're gonna You're thirty eight year oldquarterback who just quote unquote won the MVP,
hasn't been to the fucking final gameand many moons, sir, My
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thirty six year old goalie has wonthe Stanley Cup. Since he's been there
and been back to the Stanley Cup. Doesn't he have three Rogers? Is
two? He's only got one more. He's never going back. We've had
we have this bet if he goesto at the Saints. He had hasn't
shown up anywhere, not to GreenBay, not to the Saints, that
he's chilling like a villain. Dude, training camp is within weeks he's going.
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They're already prepping Love dude. Theyrogers who trust me? They're still
paying him if he shows up fuckingthe week before the first exhibition game or
no, wait, did exhibition gamesget shit canned? I forget that.
All starts this year with the seventeenthgame. Like wasn't part of that,
Like they got rid of exhibition games. I thought they cut preseasonto like two
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games, right stand by, No, it's his preseason week one of four,
so apparently there is still a fourweek preseason. So yeah, anyway,
if he shows up one game butone week before preseason, it says,
hey, I'm ready. Guess who'sfucking playing him? I think he
really They'll be like, oh,we've already prepped Jordan Love. No,
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they just paid him a ship tonof money. He's put he puts butts
into seats. Don't forget that.M hmmm. So no, he he
he'll play if he it doesn't matterif they're prepping Love. He shows up
ready, he'll still get paid.That's that's a pull Leon Bell set out.
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Yeah, Levion Bell did it,and what his he was thirty maybe.
Yeah, but Rogers is close tothe end of his career where he
can be like a sat out andI'm done, like he's he's gonna be
forty soon. Yeah, not everybody'sTB twelve, right, But coming him
off of a MVP season not atime you really want to set out or
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do you pull a George Costanza andyou go out on top. He's not
out on top when in the MVP, I'd call that going out kind of
on top. You were considered thebest player in the league last year.
Really, who held a super BowlTrophy? Why nam a whole team?
Not him? When anyone and he'sthe super Bowl Trophy, it's a whole
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team? Does the league? Theleague told him you were the best?
You were the best football player inthe league last year. That's what MVP
means most valuable player. Uh andwe will agree to disagree on that one.
Ten other jerseys out on the fieldwith him, you can't do at
all. Remember when the Verlander wantto Cy young best pitcher in the league,
(29:23):
one of the worst offenses supporting him. He can go up there nine
times and hit the ball either.You know, he's just one man.
I it's gonna be interesting to seewhat happens to him this yeries this season.
I think he either plays, heplays for Green Bay or nothing.
Well that's where green Bay's that youeither come and play for us or you
don't play at all. I thinkat thirty eight, with the contract,
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you just got to be like,yeah, all right, I'm cool.
Yeah, I'm just not gonna playthem. You're not gonna Brett Farve me
fuck off damn pretty much. Butdoesn't he want them to Brett five him?
Doesn't he want to be traded?Yes, but I don't think he
want to be because what do theydo to five? If they pretty much
ran him into the ground and thentraded him, I don't think he wants
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that. If he wants to betraded, he wants to be traded while
he knows he can still play.Although as far as last game was a
playoff game, but still I wasgonna say, they didn't really run Brett
Farkman into the ground either. BrettFarr was like, fuck you, then
play Rogers the mouth. I know. It just seems I mean, we're
seeing it now again fifteen years later. Here it seems when the Green Bay
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organism, it seems they love youwhen they're getting what they want from you,
but when it seems time for,you know, things to come to
an end, it seems like theykind of turn your back on them.
Like, you know, I'm sureBrett Farve was the mayor of Green Bay
while he was there and in theend ended up being shitty, And it
kind of seems like the same thingfor Rogers. It seems like the mayor
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of green Bay, but as soonas it gets close to, you know,
the end of his career, theorganization seems to get shitty on him.
Yeah, I mean it's been thatway since pretty much Green Bay was
founding. Do they do they knowthese guys can't play forever? Do they
know when you draft somebody it's notfor life? They do eventually he will
not be able to play football anymore. I mean, as much as I'd
(31:07):
love to see a sixty year oldman get killed on national television, right,
but I mean, at the sametime, I guess there's they're saying,
look, there's a way to goout, and there's a way not
to. Bretta five decided not,you know, the way not to,
and now you're trying to do thesame thing. And no, I don't
think I'm gonna have that. ButI say, when you get to the
second person that goes out like thismay if you're the Green Bay Organization,
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when do you start going maybe it'sme? Yeah, I mean it is
them. Look at how what's hisname went out Mike McCarthy. They loved
Mike McCarthy and then all of asudden, boom, fucking turn his back.
They did the same thing with ahomegirlm with the Walrus. Yep,
sure that they love you when you'refucking in your prime, but as soon
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as you get out of your prime. Not to say, if, ye,
if that's how it goes. IfI'm Rogers and I just won the
MVP, you can lick my whiteass. You're gonna be a dick to
me now, because I at leastgot some proof that, Hey, at
thirty eight, I'm still producing andtoo. We don't know how many.
We also don't there could be tonsof shit behind the thing the scenes that
we don't know about. Maybe he'sbeen begging for new linemen for years.
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Maybe he's been begging for running backsfor years. Maybe he's been begging for
more receivers for years. You know, like there's been no tight end of
note in green Bay for fucking twelveyears, so I mean proud of he
could be every year begging for help. He doesn't get it, and then
he's like, what the fuck amI supposed to do with this? Thanks
for this pile of shit? Yeah. I shudder to think how the condition
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green Bay wouldn't would be in ifthey haven't had Davantae Adams for the last
few years. Well, I don'tknow when you know, if you notice
when Davante Adams gets hurt, fuckingfars just throwing it up to anybody who
could fucking find because the rest ofthose stuck ass or yet Rogers, Yeah,
because the rest of those receivers notthat great. Yeah, But he
traded. They traded his uh favoriteone who Jordan Jordan Nelson. He was
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getting old and I'm just saying that'sthat's the thing, and in green Bay
to do well. Jordy Nelson's problemas a former fantasy Jordy Nelson couldn't stay
healthy and green Bay knew it.And then they sent him to Oakland and
in surprise, he got hurt likehe was just at some point, you
know, which I'm sure NBA teamsare gonna start coming to with Kyrie Irving
at some point. This guy's injuryprone. No, no, thanks,
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Yeah, he's great the four gamesa year he plays. Can't have that,
man, sixteen game seasons. Now, I'm with you. I just
it's what they do. They useyou up and they spit you out.
I mean, it's I don't knowwhy Rogers thought he would be any different.
You know, everybody you always talkabout people drinking the kool aid and
buy an in. It looks likeRogers really drink a whole bunch of kool
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aid and really bought in that hewas going to be different. And no,
son, you're really not. You'rejust like fire if you're just like
the coaches, you're just like anyplayer they've turned around. Love you while
you're here, see you later.What do you mean you want to go
to arrival? No, we're notgonna brea fave you. Sorry, all
right, you're not playing cool?Sit there and just shut up. Take
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Jared Golf off our hands, GreenBay link that trade. Put Aaron Rodgers
and Lions uniform up. I'll startwatching games again. You think that'll help.
No, because let's see, Holdon a second, I keep guessing.
Stand by here, all right,the earliest training camp gets in July
(34:30):
twenty first, Okay, we're threeweeks from training camp. Who the fuck
is catching the ball for the Lions? Ice? Who's catching the ball?
Keep waiting, I keep waiting foryour fantastic signing that you keep talking about.
All right, who is catching them? I amen? Sixteen, buddy,
(34:51):
and sixteen the Lions have signed.I'm on rah Saint Brown. He's
a wide receiver, he's a rookie, he's out of college. He's that's
that's a coin flip, Adams,Great, how about how about some how
about a tested veteran. How aboutsomebody who we know how they're gonna play,
(35:12):
rather than a bunch of people whoare all coin flips. We did
like Kerry On Johnson. I mean, I'm sorry, if you come out
of college unless you were a fuckingsuperstar that was making you know, the
ESPN Top ten every weekend in thefall, you're a coin flip. You
could go either way coming out ofcollege. Who's catching the ball? That
(35:35):
is my biggest concern as a Lionsfan. Three weeks out of training camp,
we have no receivers. I justnamed Joe whole bunch. We have
no tested receivers. We have wehave Brashad Perriman, and we have fucking
h Tyrrell Williams, which if youplayed fantasy football, both of those guys
on their best days, on theirbest top performing days, are number three
(35:59):
receiver verse. So you're telling usour number one, our number one,
our best number one is a numberthree anywhere else. I don't know why
everyone's all fired up about Dan Campbell. All he's done is a bunch of
dumb bullshit that shore we talked about. He wanted, he wanted to have
an actual Lion at Alan Park.Did the press conference with the fucking helmet
(36:21):
on. There's an article that cameout this week. He's the second worst.
He's rated the second worst coach inthe NFL. Right now, then
he's right at home. It's right, it's a Lion's way. I'm just
I am not. I am notexcited for the for the upcoming Lions season.
(36:42):
I think it is gonna be Ithink we're gonna be wishing we had
Matt Patricia. Well, let's seewhat happens. That's all we can do
right at this point. Just waitand see a cross our fingers and fucking
hope doing a lot that hasn't beendone. So yeah, but you know
what, guys who do that stuff, it goes, it doesn't. There's
no middle ground. You're either wildlysuccessful or a spectacular failure when you do
(37:06):
that unorthodox shit. Yeah, youknow, you're either a genius or a
fucking moron. There's no one between. And the Lions history, we always
tend to end up with the fuckingmoron. I'll take the wind, all
right, I'll take the wind.We thought that guy was gonna be a
fucking offensive genius. Well, onething that they did do was sure up
(37:28):
the line so people like Swift andeverything can run. It should be if
nothing else are pretty balanced. Ifanything, God's gonna have a ton of
time to figure out. Okay,who the fuck do I throw too?
That too? I don't understand.I don't understand what they're doing with their
offense. I don't understand what theplan is because all right now, from
(37:49):
what I've seen from who's on ouroffense, game plan all year is give
it to Swift, Give it toSwift, Give it to Swift, because
that's all you got. Give itto Swift or throw it to Hockinson,
it's there. You go, otherthirty one NFL teams. You just heard
the Detroit Lions offensive plan for thisyear, because that's all they got.
It's all I got, man,It's all I got. Look, anything's
possible. I you know what.Look at the Ball family, Bonzo Ball,
(38:14):
Bust, LaMelo Ball, Rookie ofthe Year. LaMelo was the guy
that stool ship in China, Right, Yeah, that was a guy.
Well you got anything else, ShaquilleO'Neil. When you're living in a world
where forty million people are laid offand I'm making two hundred million dollars,
you won't get no complaining For me. I'd play back to back to back
to back to back. Oh snid, who who's he clapping back at him?
(38:39):
Lebron James on players who are complainingabout injury? Backing up what I
was telling you at the beginning ofthis show, you go bringing it all
back around. You know, that'sone of the many reasons why I like
Shack because he says things like that. Yeah, No, a lot of
these guys don't have perspective. Theaverage in come in this country's fifty thousand
dollars a year Yeah, you justsigned a forty million dollar contract. Excuse
(39:02):
me, what is your problem?Yeah, that's the old car, basically
saying, rubbed dirt on him,motherfucker. You make too much money to
bitch, right. So whereas scienceas far and beyond where we we're at.
Yeah, so as the economy,dude, oh for sure, as
a little as twelve years ago thestock market was blow ten thousand, now
(39:22):
it's pushing forty. All right,Well, I guess we're gonna wrap it
up. It's always a shorter showwithout rich, which has a lot to
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So the NBA playoffs, Man,A lot of shit has happened since the
last time we all got together.I've injuries. Just that that Bucks Hawks
series, I mean that's yikes.No Janis uh, he's no Trey Young,
No Trey Young. So I mean, I mean when the Greek Freak
(00:42):
was playing, it pretty much lookedlike that that was that was the rap,
that was gonna be it. Butnow, I mean, flip a
coin with both of their superstars out, what do you think? I just
I think that I neither wanted towant to play the Suns. Are you
sure the Suns are gonna win?I'm positive on this one. Yeah.
They ended tonight, I mean againwith no Kawhi Leonard. I mean,
(01:07):
they got a shot, but they'veshown their mortal a couple of times in
this series. Every now and again, the sunshines on a dog's ass.
So this was not going to sevengames. Do not place your bets on
that, Oh, the Clippers areat home. Yeah, dude, But
if I mean, if anybody watchedthe game, the buckets were just falling
(01:27):
for La no matter what they did, no matter how far out they shot,
it was one. I mean afew times the bucket went in,
out and back in. It wasdisgusting. I was like, holy shit,
they cannot miss. And you know, that's how they have to play
if they want to win this series. Now, it doesn't happen, you
(01:49):
know, all the time, justso happened that it happened that night and
he took it. They did inPhoenix's own house. Yeah, like embarrassed
him. Embarrassing, Yeah, no, embarrassed them. It was like twenty
points, not disgusting. The embarrassmentwas last night, one ten to eighty
eight. I mean, even withno Trey Young. I mean it last
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night made it look like, uh, the Greek freak is the bucks.
Yeah, last night made it prettymuch look like no Greek freak. We'll
see you later, NBCU later.I don't know. I don't believe that
it's as bad as people are makingout to be with these injuries. If
we have a, we have ait's it's the softer soft the soft NBA
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like you think these guys are likelike I mean the example we always uses
Kyrie, right, guy always getshurt and apparently playing through pain not in
his vocabulary. You think we gottaBut do you think it you think it
is that with the Greek freak,I mean because I mean they're talking about
mriyes and shit like this isn't likealmaee hurts like they're actually it might be
a thing. It's not a thing. It's not gonna be a thing.
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He's got a brew was basically runningup. I got a bobo, bobo,
good band aid. I got bobo. Don't give you in my eyes
for a bruise gonna be a bruise. Watch and see what I'm telling you.
It's not a big thing. Keepdoctor ice, doctor Ice, call
him it. Yes, I thesekids today just don't play through the you
know, a little bit of payton, a little bit of tweak, a
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little bit of all. I gotan awi. I got an awe and
they just sit down. I gotan awe. Dude, we're on our
way to the fun I got anawe. Okay, let to see if
this is all your opinion, you'reyou're not out there you don't have access
to the to the medical records.No, I don't let me. Let
me look up what they're they're actuallyinvestigating here. Well, I mean it's
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with everybody. Kawhi, Trey Young, the Greek free you pick your your
awie, dude. Yeah, theBucks fere uh that he might have a
severe ACL injury. Yeah, we'llsee in an aoie. Yeah, we'll
see what happens if he plays nextgame. Dude, He's not gonna play
(04:06):
next game, but what if been? What if he does, then we'll
be playing hurt, thus shitting allover your argument. So you don't think
that they could say this to tryto funk with the minds of Atlanta.
It's not just a bruise. It'snot he's gonna be out. You ain't
gonna prepare for him, and thenall of a sudden, there he is.
Oh seeing he hyper extended his leftknee. Soft? How is it
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soft? The human body has limits? Well, then they need to learn
how to prepare. Dude. Okay, there's no winning this. There's no
winning this with you. You're justgonna call him soft. They are.
So I think he has an acl injury, and you're calling him soft.
If he has an ACL injury,then learn how to prepare. That's
a scre saying, oh, justdon't get injured. Yeah, it's that
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easy. It is that easy,dude. There have been more injuries in
the past three years in the NBAthan there was the entire nineties. That
you have to prove that statement.That is conjecture, sir. It's not
conjects as it is. Prove itbecause the past three years the major prove
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with numbers. Prove it with numbers. I am you are exaggerating. Stop
it. The past three years thequote unquote superstars, past five years,
the superstars have missed the playoffs inthe NBA finals. Give me one example
in the nineties where any of thefucking superstars weren't even in the playoffs,
let along the finals. No,go ahead, I'll wait. I mean
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I could find it, but sure, I'm sure it's happened. What you're
saying is you are making a crazy, outrageous statement that you need to back
up. You are, Yes,you are. It is an opinion.
Uh Matombo Jordan's uh pippin Uh.Anybody pick any of them any year,
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Kobe, whether whether they were hurtor not. You never heard about it,
and they played in the fucking playoffsand NBA finals. Dude, this
isn't just them, it's my favoriteteam too, with Golden State, going
back to Steph Curry and Clay Thompson. All right, so maybe they have
some severe injury. Learn how toprepare, dude, Just that simple train
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your body so that way it doesn'thappen. Don't tell me that shit ain't
possible. We've been through years andyears and decades of athletes that have trained
their bodies where they wouldn't mess upan MCL or an ACL or something severe
where they couldn't. Did you seehow the Greek freak got hurt. He
felt that he felt he got tangledup in a jump. So just train
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your body to not collide with anotherhuman being, that's what you're saying.
No, what I'm saying is justbecause you get tangled up once doesn't mean
you're fucking ACL is gonna be Hisname was hyper extended. It got it's
got bent the wrong way. There'sno training you can do. They can
fix that, they can guard againstthat. Some bend your arm the wrong
way. Your shit's gonna get fuckedup. Doesn't matter how how much you
(07:03):
fucking train. You stick on thatside. I'm gonna stick on side of
soft. I mean, it's justyou're on the side of wild exaggerated opinion.
Okay, you can, you canbe on the side. No,
I'm on the side of what usedto be. Dude, what used to
be people would train their body inthe offseason and during the season, an
(07:25):
open season. I don't care whatseason it was, people train their body.
You think these guys don't train.We've talked about this before, dude.
No, I don't think they trainlike they used to train. I
don't think they do what they haveto do to make sure this ship doesn't
happen. I don't think that they'regoing to spend eighty two games playing and
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then go into the postseason and gointo the fucking finals and not get hurt.
No, I don't. It happensevery year. It has been for
five or six years. I didn'tused to happen. You tell me why
it did happen. You're just you'rejust choosing, You're just choosing to spin
your own narrative that it didn't happen. It didn't even as early as far
(08:05):
back as the go to work Pistons, all five of them. Now I'm
looking it up because you're claiming itever happened. God, oh wait,
well go go fine, Then youneed to look up. You need to
prove all these the dederated numbers you'rethrown out. I'll wait for you to
look yours up. I don't haveto. I was there. I watched
it. None of them missed exactexactly. Excuse you just because you because
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you know you're wrong. As anexcuse, Hold on, I'm gonna look
it up now. Let's see MagicJohnson eighty nine, Isaiah Thomas eighty eight,
Joe Johnson two thousand and three,James Worthy nineteen eighty three, Dirk
Nevitski two thousand and three, KendrickPerkins two thousand and ten. Yeah,
I'm meaning two thousand and nine,Derek Rose two twelve, Andrew Bogat twenty
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ten. It does happen. Ican't find a single go to works Piston
that was injured during their playoff roll. It doesn't matter you're are you?
It was about the league you said. You said you brought up the whole
league, not one team, andthe people that you said, dude,
those aren't the superstars of the team. Okay again, you're just you're always
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gonna You're always gonna come out right. So it doesn't matter what I say.
I could give you tons of documentedproof. It doesn't matter what I
say. Now it does matter whatyou say. But show me where there
has been a year other than thepast five years, six years where there
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have been multiple superstars out for theplayoffs and the finals. You can't.
I thought it just did. Younamed some some also rans, and it
was one a year no superstars,no multiple superstars, multiple in the same
year from twenty fifteen on. Imean, just keep just keep moving the
goalposts. It's fine, dude,what goal posts? That's what I'm trying
(09:56):
to tell you. That's what's happening. You made a very hyperbolic statement that
is wrong. Which is which isyou said more NBA superstars are missing the
playoffs now than they did in thenineties, and that is wrong because you
can't back it up. No,it's not. It's only true if you
can give me the numbers, andyou can't because it's an opinion. It
is you are exaggerating the numbers.All I'm asking you is to tell me
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one year where there were so manyinjured players in one season. I can
do that for you right now.Yeah, because it's recent, I can
go back to twenty fifteen and doit. Oh wow, six whole years.
Huh. So that means I coulddo it the whole six years if
you like. But you can't backup You're only you can't back up your
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original statement. You're only backing halfof it up because there's no retort.
There's no storyline that says you can'tgive me one. Yes, there is,
you just can't give me one becauseyou refuse to look it up because
it's not there exactly exactly. I'mtalking to a wall, dude. Let's
just move on to something else.You want a story that's not there,
Chris, there's no story. There'sno story anywhere you or me or anybody
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else that looks up is gonna findwhere an NBA season was filled with injuries
in the playoffs and in the inthe finals. There isn't a story like
that. That's why I can't givea team. Okay, that's my point.
There's no story like that. None. They learned how to train their
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body back then. Today they haven't. The old guard as we call it
here, on the show. Knewhow to play, knew how to train,
could go eighty two games, couldgo into the into the playoffs,
could go all the way to thefinals, play every game that was needed.
These kids today don't. And ifyou're a Lebron, it's because of
the quick turnaround. No, butthe fucker wasn't because of a quick turnaround.
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It's been happening for six fucking years. Learn how to train. It's
not the first time we did thison the show, Chris. Now,
if you would have actually looked,there's an article that does prove you right.
If you would have bothered to look, go ahead. It's from the
New York Times from June sixteen.The NBA has already set a record for
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eight All Stars and counting that havemissed at least one postseason games. So
if you would have bothered to look, it literally the fourth article. When
I googled years where multiple NBA starsmissed the playoffs. I tried to tell
you, Okay, no, youdidn't. Fuck you, you can't do
that. You can't do that.Fuck off, No you didn't. You
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refused to do the word. Ihad to do it for you. I
had to prove because I knew Iwas right. There was a difference.
Yeah, but knowing you're right basedon just you think. There's a difference
between thinking you're right and knowing you'reright. You just thought you were right.
I followed the NBA for many amoon man, many decades. I
wouldn't say it if I thought Iwas wrong. Bullshit. You can't pull
that shit now. Oh, comeon, I told you there wasn't a
(12:54):
story that showed multiple people missing thefucking playoffs because there wasn't one. You
found a story that just confirmed whatI just told you. Congratulations, all
right, So moving on, Iguess so, like I said last time
we talked about this, these kidstoday need to learn how to train their
bodies. They were doing something backthen that worked. I don't know what
(13:16):
it was, but it worked.Today they're not doing it. It's been
the extra time in the gym.I don't know, but I'll refresh your
memory. Chris, we were talkingabout Lebron James and he needed time off.
He didn't want to play all thegames. That's when we had this
argument of how they were being soft. You can't play the regular season and
(13:37):
now you're getting hurt in the playoffs. Come on, well, you actually
just kind of touched on it.I think we might have figured out or
at least might be into something whyall these injuries are happening. And it's
and we've complained about it the lastfew years on this show. Is the
NBA now goes out like the NFLin the final week of their regular season.
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They rest everybody, the teams thatare getting ready for the playoffs,
esp just because it's a fantasy basketballmanager. The last week of the season
fucking sucks because the NBA rolls likethat. Now you're you know, you're
you're trying to win your league andyou gotta fucking scrape the waiver wire because
all your studs are sitting. Somaybe that has something to do with it.
You know, these guys are gettinguh they're essentially taking a week off,
(14:24):
you know, before the playoffs start, and then all of a sudden
they're getting injured. I mean,there might be something to that. I
don't know what it is, man, honest somebody that I'll be honest about.
I don't know what it is theydid or didn't do, but something's
wrong. They're playing less games duringthe season and they're still getting hurt.
In the fucking playoffs. So Idon't know, Okay, it didn't.
We also figure out less an aren'tthink they're playing like two less games?
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Aren't they playing like less than fiveless games? Isn't it normally an eighty
two game season and it was likea seventy nine game season or something.
Issue, Wasn't it not that muchdifferent? It was just it's not that
jammed. It was. It's notthat much week student COVID, but I
mean throughout the season regularly without COVID, they get rested, they have rest
(15:07):
days. Well, everyone gets arest day, yeah, but it's it's
during the game they don't play becausethey just need a rest. And the
old Guarden never did that. Theyplayed every game they could. I don't
know. Maybe he's conditioning. Idon't know, that's what I'm thinking.
They don't condition their bodies to getused to putting it in that much strain
all the time. Or maybe theytrain too much. Do you ever think
(15:28):
of that? Maybe they trained toomuch? I don't know. You look
at the freak and tell me thatguy don't train. Come on, man,
that guy's fucking. That guy's shredded, that guy's chiseled, that guy's
definitely getting his time in in thegym. I'm just questioning some of the
imageries. Like I said a coupleof weeks ago, like overuse is a
thing. It is a thing.But uh, when Russell uh was sitting
(15:52):
there and oh my knee, ohmy this, oh by that, and
then somebody dumps popcorn on him andhe's ready to go kick the rass how
injury it is just saying you're that'sdone, it's over, it's gone.
I'm just saying, if we're talkingabout injuries in the NBA, how injured
are they? Yeah? The Greekfree might have an acl Okay, that's
one out of what six? Yeah, but there's also protocols that their trainers
(16:15):
have to follow. I mean there'syou know a lot of times it's probably
not their decision. The trainer goes, Nope, you're done, I can
still play. Nope, you're Imean it's we we've heard, we've heard
throughout the years about guys who playedhurt and ended up sucking themselves up Further.
I mean there's probably you know,we don't know about all the ship
the trainers have to go through.Now. I mean, it could just
(16:37):
be like if there's any sign ofyou know, especially to these guys are
considered commodities as well. I meanthey're they're revenue generating machines. The organization
could be like, you know,if there's any sign of distress, you
pull them, We do therapy,we we reassess the next game. It
could be a number of things.You know, we've come a long way
from throw some dirt on it.After that was a lot of NFL trainers
(17:00):
in the sixties and seventies. Justrub some dirt on it. You'd be
all right. Put the bone stickingon it, take some tussing and put
the boat sticking out. Just rubsome dirt on it. You'd be all
right. Take a swig of tussand you'd be good. Yeah, let
the touson get into the bone.Sporte Christopher Media dot net. Christopher Media
dot net. Sportee wanted the greenChauncey new coaching. Yeah, the Blazers
(17:32):
and not just Chauncey. Jason Kiddalso is coaching the MAVs. Now.
I know where you want to goat Chauncey and I'll get there in two
seconds. But we have two blackguys going to head coaching positions, and
you want to talk about goalpost moving. They thought, because of what these
(17:52):
two men did in their past,that the woman should have got the head
coach position. Weren't they just bitchingthat there's no black coaches head coaches?
Yeah? Yeah, and then wegive they gave them two of them,
and then well yeah, but theywere, you know, women beaters and
women abusers. The woman should havegot the head coach. There's no making
(18:15):
these people happy. Ever, that'strue. If you would have given a
woman the head coach from position,then they would have bitched that they the
black guy didn't get that coaching position. Or if it's a white woman,
why wasn't it a woman of color? No, it's I'm on the internet
and old coach. And to behonest, I don't give a good goddamn
(18:36):
what Chauncey Billups did in ninety seven. I say, if the legal systems
had its turn with him, whatare we what are we doing? What
are we talking about the legal systemsfor? So it's I don't know.
I think Chauncey's gonna do a goodjob. I do. I think he's
gonna do a great job. Ishe a coach? Has he coached before.
(18:57):
This wasn't he didn't he go fromthe NBA to be in a TV
star He did. I think hewas a watch colleague, a general manager.
I couldn't tell you where it.Wait, was somewhere in the Northwest,
I think. Okay, so whenhe with the Timberwolves or no,
didn't we get him from the Timberwolves. We got him from the Timberwolves.
(19:18):
Yeah, okay, I don't know. I just I remember him being a
general manager. I thought, likethe Sonics or something. I don't know,
but I know this, Chauncey Bellottknows basketball. He knows how to
play, he knows how to win. That's part of record. So I
think he's going to do a greatjob. He's got good people on his
team. He knows how to movewhat he doesn't need and bring him what
he does. I don't know.I'd be excited to have him as a
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head coach. He has been theassistant coach of the Clippers since November eighth
last year. That is his coachingcareer. But that's it. His coaching
career is It's not even a yearold. November eight twenty and all of
(20:00):
a sudden, he's the head coachof the Trailblazers. If I'm him,
I mean, it is what itis, whatever, But don't you think
that thoughts maybe in the back ofhis head, like did I get this
simply because of how the news isright now? I think off camera that
he asked himself a lot of questions. But at the end of the day,
who gives a flying fuck? Igot that coaching you've been You've been
(20:21):
an assistant coach for fucking six months. Now you're a head coach. I
mean there's got to be a lotof assistant coaches out there'd be pretty pissed
off. But there's a lot ofblack assistant coaches out there pretty pissed off.
Like, really, six months hegets this job? The fuck is
this? Well? Everybody was bentwhen the white guy got the head coaching
position of the Brooklyn Nuts, SoI mean, I'd just be mad Jason
(20:47):
Kidd was named the head coach ofmy team. I'm just regular season career,
his player career wasn't that great?Was he gonna bring us mediocrity to
coaching now too? From the MavericksI'm not happy, I should say,
Mavericks fan, Yeah, he hasn'tdone too much in his coaching career.
Either kid was coach of the NutsI think, Yeah, wasn't he on
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the Nets and he coached the Nets? Yeah? I think he also coached
the Knicks. I think you canbring up his Wikipedia here. He coached
the Nets for one year twenty thirteentwenty fourteen. Oh, he took him
to the playoffs. Only coached theBucks from twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen.
Oh. He was an assistant coachfor the Lakers twenty nineteen to twenty twenty
(21:30):
one. So I mean, Iguess he has been a coach for a
minute. Yeah, but being atthe right place at the right time does
not a coach make. I mean, is he going to be the guy
that brings Dallas back to prominence becauseit seems like it's it's been a since
Nevitsky retired. I mean it's theypretty much kind of reminded me of the
Mavericks of the eighties, pretty muchirrelevant. They got that new guy,
(21:52):
what's his name, Don Sick orwhatever, the joker. Yeah, yeah,
that's right. Yeah, that's wherethey're building came around now. But
Porzingis is still on there and he'shas been halfway to bust. But like
I said, being at the rightplace at the right time does not a
coach make. And that's what JasonKidd has been with the exception of the
Nets. You know, being inyou know, Milwaukee with the Greek freak
(22:15):
and being in LA with well Lebron'steam. You know, it's a right
place, right time. You know, you think a good coaches like Phil
Jackson or Greg Popovich who was therebefore they were good, made him good,
(22:37):
made the right moves, was ableto coach who he had. Those
are good coaches, one of them'sgreatest of all time. That's side point.
Phil Jackson was called the racist byScottie Pippen this week. Did you
see that? Yes? I sawthat, which if I'm Phil Jackson at
this point, I'm just like,you know what, fuck everybody like Lebron
(22:57):
called Now he's got Scottie Pippot like, you know what, fuck you guys.
You know what, if there wasever a time to say, let
freedom ring, that's that, myfucker. Just hold up your hands,
Phil, You ain't even got toflip them off. Just hold up your
hands. Yeah right, What doesn'tPhil have a ring for every finger?
Even his stones? Yes, hehad six and Chicago and what five and
(23:22):
U LA And here's the kicker.It wasn't a white guy that got him
the ring, any of them.There were white guys on the team,
but they weren't the essentials. Andwasn't this all over because Phil Jackson lit
a white guy take the final shotin a game? Yes? Wow?
(23:45):
And it's how many years later,like twenty five? Are you serious?
And that coming from second fiddle ScottiePippen. Scottie Pippen need money or something.
He's trying to get some clicks,Like, for real, it's called
(24:06):
a game. I mean, didthe guy who took the last shot,
I mean, I forget who itwas? Did he play the same position
as Pippin? Like it's called agame plan? Sorry, you didn't play
that position. That position was inthat game, that position, in that
particular play was going to take thatshot. I really think the place you
think the place had passed to thewhite guy? You serious? The funk
out of here had to get heraway from the posse that would be in
(24:30):
the future. You know what,Honestly, that's just my opinion. You
could call him a racist, youdidn't call him anything you want to call
him. I'm gonna call him thegreatest coach of all time, like of
any sport or just basketball of basketball. There you go, that's fair.
(24:55):
I'd agree with that quite honestly.Yeah, I mean, how can you
not. He went to two differentteams and did the exact same thing and
nobody could stop him. He's justgood at being a leader too. Yep,
you're keeping up at all with theNHL playoffs. I have kept up
with it, but I do too, especially since the awards came out.
(25:18):
I really wanted to talk to Richabout the awards because Mark and Andre Fleury
won the con smythe and he wassat the last game that the Knights was
trying to make a push, andI'm like, how are you gonna sit
a Cup winning goalie? And isn'the quote unquote old Fleury? Oh?
(25:38):
I thought he was an older guy, define old over thirty. Yeah,
he's a veteran in any sport ifyou're over thirty year old. I mean,
he's a veteran goalie, but he'snot like old old hike. Seriously,
dude, you need your stick tohelp you out on the ice.
He is thirty six years old.That is old for an athlete, sir,
(26:00):
Yeah, but not really for agoalie, dude. I mean,
if he had to run up anddown the ice, I could hear you.
But for a goalie just kind ofsit there and stop the puck.
Drafted in two thousand and three.Understood, But again, he did just
win the con smythe so he's notthat old? Oh okay, okay,
okay, So we really you reallywant to do this because I make the
(26:22):
same remarks about a thirty eight yearquarterback from Green Bay who just won the
MVP. Okay, all right,don't trap yourself. Don't trap yourself because
you're gonna You're thirty eight year oldquarterback who just quote unquote won the MVP,
hasn't been to the fucking final gameand many moons, sir, My
(26:44):
thirty six year old goalie has wonthe Stanley Cup. Since he's been there
and been back to the Stanley Cup. Doesn't he have three Rogers? Is
two? He's only got one more. He's never going back. We've had
we have this bet if he goesto at the Saints. He had hasn't
shown up anywhere, not to GreenBay, not to the Saints, that
he's chilling like a villain. Dude, training camp is within weeks he's going.
(27:11):
They're already prepping Love dude. Theyrogers who trust me? They're still
paying him if he shows up fuckingthe week before the first exhibition game or
no, wait, did exhibition gamesget shit canned? I forget that.
All starts this year with the seventeenthgame. Like wasn't part of that,
Like they got rid of exhibition games. I thought they cut preseasonto like two
(27:34):
games, right stand by, No, it's his preseason week one of four,
so apparently there is still a fourweek preseason. So yeah, anyway,
if he shows up one game butone week before preseason, it says,
hey, I'm ready. Guess who'sfucking playing him? I think he
really They'll be like, oh,we've already prepped Jordan Love. No,
(27:55):
they just paid him a ship tonof money. He's put he puts butts
into seats. Don't forget that.M hmmm. So no, he he
he'll play if he it doesn't matterif they're prepping Love. He shows up
ready, he'll still get paid.That's that's a pull Leon Bell set out.
(28:18):
Yeah, Levion Bell did it,and what his he was thirty maybe.
Yeah, but Rogers is close tothe end of his career where he
can be like a sat out andI'm done, like he's he's gonna be
forty soon. Yeah, not everybody'sTB twelve, right, But coming him
off of a MVP season not atime you really want to set out or
(28:41):
do you pull a George Costanza andyou go out on top. He's not
out on top when in the MVP, I'd call that going out kind of
on top. You were considered thebest player in the league last year.
Really, who held a super BowlTrophy? Why nam a whole team?
Not him? When anyone and he'sthe super Bowl Trophy, it's a whole
(29:02):
team? Does the league? Theleague told him you were the best?
You were the best football player inthe league last year. That's what MVP
means most valuable player. Uh andwe will agree to disagree on that one.
Ten other jerseys out on the fieldwith him, you can't do at
all. Remember when the Verlander wantto Cy young best pitcher in the league,
(29:23):
one of the worst offenses supporting him. He can go up there nine
times and hit the ball either.You know, he's just one man.
I it's gonna be interesting to seewhat happens to him this yeries this season.
I think he either plays, heplays for Green Bay or nothing.
Well that's where green Bay's that youeither come and play for us or you
don't play at all. I thinkat thirty eight, with the contract,
(29:45):
you just got to be like,yeah, all right, I'm cool.
Yeah, I'm just not gonna playthem. You're not gonna Brett Farve me
fuck off damn pretty much. Butdoesn't he want them to Brett five him?
Doesn't he want to be traded?Yes, but I don't think he
want to be because what do theydo to five? If they pretty much
ran him into the ground and thentraded him, I don't think he wants
(30:06):
that. If he wants to betraded, he wants to be traded while
he knows he can still play.Although as far as last game was a
playoff game, but still I wasgonna say, they didn't really run Brett
Farkman into the ground either. BrettFarr was like, fuck you, then
play Rogers the mouth. I know. It just seems I mean, we're
seeing it now again fifteen years later. Here it seems when the Green Bay
(30:26):
organism, it seems they love youwhen they're getting what they want from you,
but when it seems time for,you know, things to come to
an end, it seems like theykind of turn your back on them.
Like, you know, I'm sureBrett Farve was the mayor of Green Bay
while he was there and in theend ended up being shitty, And it
kind of seems like the same thingfor Rogers. It seems like the mayor
(30:47):
of green Bay, but as soonas it gets close to, you know,
the end of his career, theorganization seems to get shitty on him.
Yeah, I mean it's been thatway since pretty much Green Bay was
founding. Do they do they knowthese guys can't play forever? Do they
know when you draft somebody it's notfor life? They do eventually he will
not be able to play football anymore. I mean, as much as I'd
(31:07):
love to see a sixty year oldman get killed on national television, right,
but I mean, at the sametime, I guess there's they're saying,
look, there's a way to goout, and there's a way not
to. Bretta five decided not,you know, the way not to,
and now you're trying to do thesame thing. And no, I don't
think I'm gonna have that. ButI say, when you get to the
second person that goes out like thismay if you're the Green Bay Organization,
(31:27):
when do you start going maybe it'sme? Yeah, I mean it is
them. Look at how what's hisname went out Mike McCarthy. They loved
Mike McCarthy and then all of asudden, boom, fucking turn his back.
They did the same thing with ahomegirlm with the Walrus. Yep,
sure that they love you when you'refucking in your prime, but as soon
(31:49):
as you get out of your prime. Not to say, if, ye,
if that's how it goes. IfI'm Rogers and I just won the
MVP, you can lick my whiteass. You're gonna be a dick to
me now, because I at leastgot some proof that, Hey, at
thirty eight, I'm still producing andtoo. We don't know how many.
We also don't there could be tonsof shit behind the thing the scenes that
we don't know about. Maybe he'sbeen begging for new linemen for years.
(32:13):
Maybe he's been begging for running backsfor years. Maybe he's been begging for
more receivers for years. You know, like there's been no tight end of
note in green Bay for fucking twelveyears, so I mean proud of he
could be every year begging for help. He doesn't get it, and then
he's like, what the fuck amI supposed to do with this? Thanks
for this pile of shit? Yeah. I shudder to think how the condition
(32:37):
green Bay wouldn't would be in ifthey haven't had Davantae Adams for the last
few years. Well, I don'tknow when you know, if you notice
when Davante Adams gets hurt, fuckingfars just throwing it up to anybody who
could fucking find because the rest ofthose stuck ass or yet Rogers, Yeah,
because the rest of those receivers notthat great. Yeah, But he
traded. They traded his uh favoriteone who Jordan Jordan Nelson. He was
(33:04):
getting old and I'm just saying that'sthat's the thing, and in green Bay
to do well. Jordy Nelson's problemas a former fantasy Jordy Nelson couldn't stay
healthy and green Bay knew it.And then they sent him to Oakland and
in surprise, he got hurt likehe was just at some point, you
know, which I'm sure NBA teamsare gonna start coming to with Kyrie Irving
at some point. This guy's injuryprone. No, no, thanks,
(33:25):
Yeah, he's great the four gamesa year he plays. Can't have that,
man, sixteen game seasons. Now, I'm with you. I just
it's what they do. They useyou up and they spit you out.
I mean, it's I don't knowwhy Rogers thought he would be any different.
You know, everybody you always talkabout people drinking the kool aid and
buy an in. It looks likeRogers really drink a whole bunch of kool
(33:47):
aid and really bought in that hewas going to be different. And no,
son, you're really not. You'rejust like fire if you're just like
the coaches, you're just like anyplayer they've turned around. Love you while
you're here, see you later.What do you mean you want to go
to arrival? No, we're notgonna brea fave you. Sorry, all
right, you're not playing cool?Sit there and just shut up. Take
(34:07):
Jared Golf off our hands, GreenBay link that trade. Put Aaron Rodgers
and Lions uniform up. I'll startwatching games again. You think that'll help.
No, because let's see, Holdon a second, I keep guessing.
Stand by here, all right,the earliest training camp gets in July
(34:30):
twenty first, Okay, we're threeweeks from training camp. Who the fuck
is catching the ball for the Lions? Ice? Who's catching the ball?
Keep waiting, I keep waiting foryour fantastic signing that you keep talking about.
All right, who is catching them? I amen? Sixteen, buddy,
(34:51):
and sixteen the Lions have signed.I'm on rah Saint Brown. He's
a wide receiver, he's a rookie, he's out of college. He's that's
that's a coin flip, Adams,Great, how about how about some how
about a tested veteran. How aboutsomebody who we know how they're gonna play,
(35:12):
rather than a bunch of people whoare all coin flips. We did
like Kerry On Johnson. I mean, I'm sorry, if you come out
of college unless you were a fuckingsuperstar that was making you know, the
ESPN Top ten every weekend in thefall, you're a coin flip. You
could go either way coming out ofcollege. Who's catching the ball? That
(35:35):
is my biggest concern as a Lionsfan. Three weeks out of training camp,
we have no receivers. I justnamed Joe whole bunch. We have
no tested receivers. We have wehave Brashad Perriman, and we have fucking
h Tyrrell Williams, which if youplayed fantasy football, both of those guys
on their best days, on theirbest top performing days, are number three
(35:59):
receiver verse. So you're telling usour number one, our number one,
our best number one is a numberthree anywhere else. I don't know why
everyone's all fired up about Dan Campbell. All he's done is a bunch of
dumb bullshit that shore we talked about. He wanted, he wanted to have
an actual Lion at Alan Park.Did the press conference with the fucking helmet
(36:21):
on. There's an article that cameout this week. He's the second worst.
He's rated the second worst coach inthe NFL. Right now, then
he's right at home. It's right, it's a Lion's way. I'm just
I am not. I am notexcited for the for the upcoming Lions season.
(36:42):
I think it is gonna be Ithink we're gonna be wishing we had
Matt Patricia. Well, let's seewhat happens. That's all we can do
right at this point. Just waitand see a cross our fingers and fucking
hope doing a lot that hasn't beendone. So yeah, but you know
what, guys who do that stuff, it goes, it doesn't. There's
no middle ground. You're either wildlysuccessful or a spectacular failure when you do
(37:06):
that unorthodox shit. Yeah, youknow, you're either a genius or a
fucking moron. There's no one between. And the Lions history, we always
tend to end up with the fuckingmoron. I'll take the wind, all
right, I'll take the wind.We thought that guy was gonna be a
fucking offensive genius. Well, onething that they did do was sure up
(37:28):
the line so people like Swift andeverything can run. It should be if
nothing else are pretty balanced. Ifanything, God's gonna have a ton of
time to figure out. Okay,who the fuck do I throw too?
That too? I don't understand.I don't understand what they're doing with their
offense. I don't understand what theplan is because all right now, from
(37:49):
what I've seen from who's on ouroffense, game plan all year is give
it to Swift, Give it toSwift, Give it to Swift, because
that's all you got. Give itto Swift or throw it to Hockinson,
it's there. You go, otherthirty one NFL teams. You just heard
the Detroit Lions offensive plan for thisyear, because that's all they got.
It's all I got, man,It's all I got. Look, anything's
possible. I you know what.Look at the Ball family, Bonzo Ball,
(38:14):
Bust, LaMelo Ball, Rookie ofthe Year. LaMelo was the guy
that stool ship in China, Right, Yeah, that was a guy.
Well you got anything else, ShaquilleO'Neil. When you're living in a world
where forty million people are laid offand I'm making two hundred million dollars,
you won't get no complaining For me. I'd play back to back to back
to back to back. Oh snid, who who's he clapping back at him?
(38:39):
Lebron James on players who are complainingabout injury? Backing up what I
was telling you at the beginning ofthis show, you go bringing it all
back around. You know, that'sone of the many reasons why I like
Shack because he says things like that. Yeah, No, a lot of
these guys don't have perspective. Theaverage in come in this country's fifty thousand
dollars a year Yeah, you justsigned a forty million dollar contract. Excuse
(39:02):
me, what is your problem?Yeah, that's the old car, basically
saying, rubbed dirt on him,motherfucker. You make too much money to
bitch, right. So whereas scienceas far and beyond where we we're at.
Yeah, so as the economy,dude, oh for sure, as
a little as twelve years ago thestock market was blow ten thousand, now
(39:22):
it's pushing forty. All right,Well, I guess we're gonna wrap it
up. It's always a shorter showwithout rich, which has a lot to
say. Yeah, but make sureyou're following us on all the social media.
Like us on Facebook, follow uson Twitter at Sporty podcast dot No,
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