Tim Tebow, Kyrie Irving, Steph Curry, Tom Wilson and Marv Albert

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Sporty christom Media dot Net. Thankyou for we have returned. I am
Chris Well, I'm Bridge, I'mthe ice man, and it is May.
May means playoffs. There's hockey playoffs, it's NBA playoffs, especially the

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start of people not giving a fuckabout baseball. You know, so since
last we've met, a lot ofthings have happened. Uh, what do
we want to start with here,guys? I mean, if we want
to go, do we want togo chronological? Because I mean the biggest
story that we haven't covered because wehaven't been on in two weeks is in

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my mind at least in the sportsworld, is what's going on in the
NHL with Tom Wilson. That's so, I mean, you guys want to
start with that, we can startthere. Well, hockey playoffs are going
on, so it's relevant. Butcan't even talked about the draft? Y'all?
Yeah, we did on our lastshow? We did? Didn't we
do our last did we do?Hold on? We've done a show since
I've moved. I know that I'vedone a show in this in this room.

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Yeah we did did. Oh No, you're right, you don't.
You're right, we did? Wedid? You don't then Ice, I
correct myself for admonishing you. Thelast time we did a show was the
day before the draft. The draftwas going to happen the day we recorded.
So okay, well then yeah,okay, let's start with the draft.

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Yeah, uh no surprise at thenumber one pick. No, however,
yeah, a little surprised that Jaguyerssang Tim Tebow is the only The
only plausible thing I've come up withfor that is that is urban Meyer back
during him into being a coach.There's a lot of speculation floating around in

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comments, sections and op eds sayingthat that's the thing's going to happen,
like he might not have the roomon his staff or or I don't like
because I don't know if you sawa post it on our social media,
I said from the nobody asked forthis file, Like, first of all,
it's a position he's never fucking played, And second of all, it's
like ten years that he's been aviable NFL player, Actually five years didn't

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he wasn't. Twenty sixteen is lastyear, but still it's been a half
a decade. He's been playing baseballfor the last three years. Where the
fuck did that come from. Imean, let's be honest. Though,
dude's still in great shape. Wellhe's been with the Lord. You know.
Well, I'm just upstairs. Youdon't. I don't give a fuck
whether it came from Jesus or afucking syringe. The dude still looks to

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be, like in in pretty tiptop shape for an athlete around his age.
Now, the thing that I'm withyou, the thing that blows my
mind about this is that even beforehe was drafted coming out of college,
there was talk of maybe moving himto like running back. I remember that

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talk, but I never heard tightend. Never can he even block.
I mean, your tight ends thesedays like to be considered a a like
a great tight end. You kindof got to do it all. Now,
Okay, here's the thing. Rich. You have to care where he
got his size from, because yeah, he's in great shape, but the

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shape is two times what he usedto be in college. He's huge.
Okay, I don't care about that. He's does part of his paycheck come
to me? I don't care.Entertain me. Kill yourself for my entertainment.
If you're dumb enough to do it, I'm smart enough to be entertained
by it. I don't know.I truly don't care. I'm overall this

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peed bullshit. It's rampant. It'snever going anywhere. It's always been here.
The game is the game. Itjust changes a little bit. That's
it. No shift. I'm justsaying, you said he shouldn't have.
You never heard him here being atight end because he wasn't big enough.

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If you look at Tempte Bow atFlorida, he's an anybody guy. He
is a quarterback style shaping looking guy. But now eighty bitty, he's six
foot fucking three. Dude, he'dhave been a very tall running back.
I'm just saying, but the heightis not so much what I'm focusing on.
I'm talking about his build. No, I got you. Well,

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that's the other thing, dude,his build, it ain't the prototypical fucking
tight end build. They want sixfoot seven, six foot eight, two
hundred and fifty sixty pound guys whocan block. They've got a fucking you
know, forty inch vertical minimum,you know what I'm saying, and have
goddamn fucking Randy Moss hands. Yeah, everybody wants a grunk, but sometimes

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they'll suddle for a Walter I'm justand how are you doing there? Uh?
Las Vegas? And also everybody wantsa grunk. That's that's that's that's
kind of a high bar that thatguy's a freak who's gonna be a Hall
of Fame tight end, going tobe considered the best in the game.
When all of a sudden done,I mean, it's well, okay,
hold up here, I got alittle breaking news. According to Yahoo Sports

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as of yeah, hold on,sorry today, it's the seventeenth according to
yeah who Sports at three thirty four. Uh, he just has an invite
to the camp. Oh, ithasn't been signed. New Well, I
mean, I guess you have tobe signed to go to the camp like

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OTAs, because that's not like tryouts, right, OTAs are offseason training activities.
I think that's what it's supposed tobe. And that's supposed to be
like team only. So he's gonnabe at OTA's. He had to have
signed some kind of contract. Butand I'm looking here up more NBC Sports
Urban Meyer on Tim Tebow, Adecision is coming soon. That was posted

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yesterday, what's a day ago?So it's like, all right, Jesus
Christ, and I hate all theseauto ads fucking plan just see here?
So is this the media running withsomething that isn't really well? That's what
that's Yeah, that's kind of whatI'm getting a damn it, because what's
up? We just wasted five minuteson this. I'm just in general,

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goddamn it, because I'm looking atthere, there's you know, from NFL
from Difference, you know, outrageover Tim Tebow and I'm like, what
and why is there vitriol over TimTebow's potential? And I'm like, because
Captain signed it, you know what? Sadly, yeah, and this is

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this is that's why this is theworld we will live until the day we
die. From here on out,everything is seen through the fucking lens of
You cannot have success because someone elsedidn't have as much success as you,
even though they didn't put into workand put in the time and all that
shit. What has Cap done forfive fucking years besides sit on his ass.

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We reschedule a workout that Roger Goodelljumped through hoops to get him and
had damn near what was it,twenty seven to thirty two fucking teams coming
there to watch him, and atthe last minute he changes it up throws
on his Kuta Kinte shirt because heknows what it's like to be a slave.
Right. Yeah, I'm over it, dude, I'm over it.

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And if this is the fucking ifthis is how we got to look at
ship from now on, then Iresigned from the species and done, dude,
which, by the way, Idid post in the chat when we
were talking about this because about allthe reaction, I just went to Pro
Football Reference and pulled his fucking statsfrom his land sub fifty QB rating for
his last two seasons. That's whyhe's not in the league. Assholes.

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You can't explain that though, man, even his his stats and everything else.
I was done when he told avery popular black man and a very
very popular black heavy team, nah, ain't going looking at ray Lewis and
the Ravens when he and no,the Ravens said no thing you said.

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Okay, you said team. Ithought you said teen. I was like
our colt, No, dude,the Ravens. The Ravens said no thanks.
Remember we even added the whole thingabout it. Rich Thington was because
his girlfriend was popping off in themedia at the time, and the Ravens
are like, nah, that's afact. That's a fact that she was
popping off in the media. Thatis not speculation in my part, because

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you can unless she's deleted her shit, you can still going on all her
social media. Is no bullshit speculatingshe was talking shit, of speculating that
that's why the Ravens passed on herbecause the week he was working out with
Oh No, I got you on, she had just just gone on tirade
after tirade boy, if you remember. Also, they talk to ray Lewis

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about it, and he said that'sone of the reasons. And I'm thinking
if anybody, like, if ifone player is going to be attached to
the fucking Ravens for the rest ofhis life, it's probably gonna be in
being the No, it's probably gonnabe Ray Lewis. I would I would
say number two would be ad Reidjust to be just to throw it out
there. God knows, uh what'shis face? Ain't coming back? Uh

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shit god? Yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, that the
running back yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's yeah.
They ain't gonna have a fucking retirementceremony for his number anytime soon, so
he's not going in the Ring ofhonor. But dude, I mean this
is the ring of honor. Look, this is two separate, completely different

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situations that are being put up againsteach other, that are apples and oranges
and trying to be compared as applesto apples. And this is the dishonor
of the people that say this shipand stir the pot. This is why
I have no fucking tolerance for him, and I don't care anymore. I
find him a Nazi. I'm afascist. I'm a racist, and whatever

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you want to fucking call me,I am what you say I am.
And by the way, that's notan eminem line, that's a fucking Eric
b and Rock Cam line. Okay, so suck my white ass. I
know more about a hip hop thanmost you muffuckers. All Right, eat
it. I don't care. Idon't want to hear it. No more,
done with this ship. He's noteven going to play quarterback. You're
not even now if Cap went togo play wide receiver and try to get

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back in the NHL that way andwas willing to actually, oh, I
don't know, play ball a littlebit, show up for the tryouts.
I'm set up. No, Imean like playball, like not just sit
there and sabotage everything and then golook, with all these evil white men,
you get an asshole sabots. Justdon't try out and call everybody a

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bunch of racists. That that's themoment when the NFL was done with them.
I guarantee it, Like, allright, we tried fuck face as
it absolutely as it absolutely should beand there should be no apologies for it.
And the other thing that a lotof people don't think about because people
don't think pragmatically anymore because it's fuckingevil. I that blows my mind.
How like thinking like that is nowconsidered. But anyway, you signed Colin

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Kaepernick, you get all of thebaggage that comes with him, which is
a bunch of hyperbolic press. Yousigned Tim Tebow, you fucking you get
nothing but a bunch of good pressbecause the guy, at least publicly has
kept his him and squeaky fucking clean. He doesn't take a stand on anything.
He loves his wife, and heloves Jesus. You know, Jesus
is on your team. Yeah,you gotta have to be fairer though.

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Okay, when he was doing hishole, when he had the John three
sixteen on his eye black and hewas kneeling. The NFL stepped in said,
no more fucking messages in your eyeblack. You're done with that.
You want that shit, go backand see if you can get a fifth
or six year eligibility in college footballbecause we're not allowing it. And people
were bitching and crying and pissing theirpanties about him kneeling in prayer because oh,

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you watch football for entertainment, notfor fucking politics, which I totally
agree with. And here's this deal, um that the Bible itself says people
who pray in public are hypocrites andpharisees. So well about those same people
who would stick up for Colin Kaepernick. That's the point. I don't care
about either of them. Kneeling.Kneeling was never an issue for me.

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Okay. First of all, Earl, I swear to God, I will,
I will, I will mute myfucking microphone and let you have Chris.
Can we give him five minutes ifhe feels it just uninterrupted, because
that's all I can stand. Yah? Yeah, big time? Okay for
to rebuct this. His kneeling wasnever disrespecting America. The troops, the
flag, mom, apple pie,baseball, or your dick. Okay,

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nothing important was being disrespected. Itwas his way of protesting when he sees
a social injustice. Now, ifyou disagree with his definition of social injustice,
I can see why you disagree withhis kneeling. If you have to
take all this other shit that hasnothing to do with what the fuck he
was trying to get across and putit in there, then you're doing the

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same thing that the people who aretrying to compare Tebow getting what a chance
to try out as a tight endfor his former college coach to Kaepernick basically
blowing up his career and throwing hisboth middle fingers up in the air to
the face of the NFL for fivefucking years. And I'm sorry, on

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what planet can you disrespect potential employersfor five years and expect to get hired?
Yeah? No, shit right.You call them slave owners, masters,
you call yourself slaves you were,Yet basically you're calling them outside of
a murderer, a rapist, ora child fucker, the worst thing you

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can call somebody these days, which, by the way, most people in
this country, white or black,or purple or fucking blue or whatever fucking
color would love to be a slavefor a multimillion dollar contract, a quote
unquote slave. Hey, look,you don't even need five I don't even
need five minutes for this. Itwas kneeling for Colin Kaepernick when this whole

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thing broke. Yeah for me,for me personally, you don't take a
knee when the national anthems played.I love this country to death. I
would never. I've studied through andthrough if you hang on a minute,
wait and church, I've studied thehistory of this country and I love it

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to death. It turned into alot more than kneeling the protest. Well,
that's the thing, is what Richwas saying. Boast both sides of
the political spectrum of the press wentto town with that story. The people
on the the You know that yourMSNBC's of the world and your and your
Fox News is of the world justwent fucking It was like a ship.

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Yeah, both of them just wentnuts, you know. And it's it's
the conversation was hijacked because yeah,you are right, Earl, it's what
what it eventually became, Enrich,Both both of you guys are right.
What it why he knelt and whatit became two different things, and I'm
placing that solely at the feet ofthe press. And I stopped, like

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right after it happened, I stoppedyelling about respect the flag and started yelling,
I just want to watch football.I just want to watch If he
has popped with social and all ofthis ship and black lives and all that,
take it outside, go to thepress conference and and spe your guts
or or something Rich was talking aboutin the pre show chat and we'll get

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to this a little later. Orjust do shit and don't talk about it.
That's the ultimate. Like, ifyou really care, cut cut yourself,
you know, keep collecting your gameday checks, cut a little piece
of them off every week, givethem to an organization that's going to advance
the cause you believe in. That'show you really affect change. Getting a
whole bunch of people that fucking doa hashtag don't do shit. But anyway,

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this started about the draft. It'senough about two Tim Tebow. It's
it's all a mite. So whatelse from the draft? Guys? Should
we should we talk about the hometeam's draft? No? Yeah, I
officially don't know. I don't evenhave words. I don't even have words,

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just a series of the only wordsI was left with after his that
draft was bob yucker in Major League. I guess they were thinking, I
don't what the fuck they were TheHeisman winner, who is a receiver,
which is a position you desperately needright now, was available. I hope,

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I hope fucking DeVante Free or DeVanteSmith is the rookie of the year.
You're gonna hear hurts to Smith fuckinga million times this year in Philadelphia,
and I want that to happen.I want the fucking Lions organization to
be like and I want the fansto be pissed. I want people throwing
shit week fucking seventeen. The lastline, like, I don't know what

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the fuck they're doing. Man,I officially don't see that's where are you?
And I differ. Their first pickfor me was great. That's what
I was telling you. They needthat offensive line, and they got that.
I'll have a pick, yeah,guy who has guys played football for
two years. I'm looking real forwardto it. After that. He sat
out last season, You know that, right, because the COVID concerns end
by the way he has COVID rightnow, by the way, I'm well

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aware. Yeah, but after thatthey started picking defensive tackles. They picked
two defensive tackles on a row.Why are you getting defensive tackles when you
just signed and traded for Brockers,Brad whatever his name is. They were
just going to take the best playeravailable in every round. That's not true.
That's not what they did. Theymight what did they said, but

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that is definitely not what they did. So, you know, we had
our super Bowl here in Detroit.No hope from this Lions fan. So
I can only hope that they aredoing what we talked about last show,
that there's some kind of great planthat they're keeping under their hat. Because
the offense this year, what thefuck is gonna be the offense? Is

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it just gonna be dump it toSwift? Because if you're telling me art
receivers going into Opening Day or Openingweekend or whatever the fuck you call it,
and they're going to be Breshad Perrymanand Tyrrell Williams, I'm gonna jump
off fucking building. No, dude, they got receivers. It's not that
those are the two biggest names onthe receiver roster, right Now, who

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the fact do they have? Okay, it's not all star receivers, but
I mean it's a functioning team.But it just they could have had so
much more. They could have hada shot at at least playoffs, but
not now. So yeah, Ihave no idea what they were thinking after
the first round? Yes, Sowho else in the draft? I don't

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want to be I don't want tobe league or that. What else do
you want to talk about from thedraft? Just a lot of SEC players.
Man, don't we always jo always? Don't we always joke to SEC?
Is? The is probably the NFL'sminor league pretty much. If you
make it to the SEC, morethan likely you're making it to the pros.
Yeah, you got any thoughts onthe draft? They're rich. I

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bet he muted his mic and walkedaway. Uh so, I guess,
uh, we'll move on from thedraft because it was like almost a month
ago at this point. What nexthere? It's kind of man, well,
let's talk about well, well,you know what, since he's muted,
why don't you and I talk aboutthe NBA? Well? Sah,

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I was going to bring up thatKyrie Irving story. Oh my god,
because it's exclosely connected to the rantswe were just on. When did he
say this, Hold on, letme pull up our chat here, let's
see Kyrie Irving said, I thinkit was last He said, it's Saturday
night. We're recording on Monday,May seventeenth, so he said it after

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Saturday night's game. He says,I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
A lot of stuff is going onin this world, and basketball is just
not the most important thing to meright now. There's a lot of things
going on overseas. All of ourpeople are still in bondage across the world,
and there's a lot of dehumanization goingon. So I apologize if I'm
not going to be focused on y'all'squestions. It's just too much going on
in the world for me to betalked to just be talking about basketball.

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I focus on this most of thetime twenty four seven, but it's too
much going on in this world notto address. It's just sad to see
this shit going on. It's notjust in Palestine, not just in Israel.
It's all over the world, andI feel it. I'm very compassionate
to it, to all races,all cultures, and to see it to
see a lot of people being discriminatedagainst based on their religion, color of
their skin, what they believe inis just sad. Well, then quit

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your fucking basketball job and go fuckingtry to change it. That's does my
reaction when I read it, andit's still my reaction now from the guy
who thought the earth was flat,Like I'm tired of all these these empty
speeches, this empty bullshit, Likedude, you just you just you just
essentially just sent a tweet, butyou did it in front of a microphone
at a press conference. Like andif I'm his coach, I'd find them.

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I'd be like, shut the fuckup. You get your head in
the game. You don't want yourhead to beginning the game. We can
provoke your contract. You go playfor somebody else. Like why does the
NBA feel they need to be thewokest league in the room? And it
can't be because it's all black guys, because a lot of the sports leagues
are a bunch of black guys,and the NBA is just trying to get
in this fucking woke that we arethe most woke sports league contest. I

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just read another article about how theirratings are in the tank again. There's
dude, there's fucking if they're trying. First of all, they're trying to
be woke. We're talking about Kyrieever by the way, Yeah, well
I figured that much. It's sorry, I'd step out for a second.
But if, if, if they'retrying to be the NBA's trying to be
woke, they really need to rethinktheir stance with China. Anyone who fucking

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kisses China's ask that much is theantithesis of woke. Yeah, if you're
into human rights, you should notbe into China. And the NBA is
tongue is buried in China's ass rightnow. In fact, same with same
with a lot of businesses, incorporations, Disney, all these the next
wave of fucking Marvel movies, halfof them are aimed at the China dollar

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period and the story. So,I mean, apparently that's it's a great
undiscovered country and capitalism. It's likehalf the fucking world population lives there,
literally, But the problem is likealmost, well no, I'm not even
gonna say almost, like every communistcountry in the history of communist countries,
the ruling class, yeah they gotmoney, We had were about to rest

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everybody else we had. Capitalism.It does exist in China, but only
if you're rich. The upper classhave access to it. Oh yeah,
And I mean, look, Idon't know what you said about Kyrie Irving
is like said that. Step outfor a second. I'm just gonna say
everything everything I've already said. Okay, I just don't give a fuck anymore.
First of all, one holds KyrieIrving thirty thirty two, maybe at

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all? Well, I mean,and my point is is that it seems
like goal post moving is the newfucking pastime for people, and now it's
not. Oh okay, so he'sthirty, okay, all right, and
you know, well the country hasa shame full history, and well,
yes it does, just like everyother fucking country in the world. All
right. Now, you can eithercry about shit that happened four hundred years

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ago, not saying it didn't itdidn't go on way longer than it should
have, not saying that the ripplesof the effect of slavery and all that
shit don't fucking roll out. Buta twenty nine year old millionaire trying to
tell me about my people are inbondage. First of all, who are
your people your family, because that'sthe only that's that's the only definition of

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your people that's acceptable in my book, because anything else. Now you're dividing
this up by race, and accordingto you, that's racist. So what
I just you're a racist. Fuck. I just thought about this when you
were talking about him saying, mypeople, brad Jelina adopted like forever children,

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so many that we're in poverty andhungry and everything else. And they
never really made that big a dealof it. The media try, but
they never really you know, wentout and was like, look what we're
doing. You know. So ifif if brad Elena said something like that,
I'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, it's the Kyrie.
Irvan isn't adopting a goddamn thing.No, he's not doing anything.

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He's When I hear people who aretwenty nine bitching about shit that that happened
sixty five seventy years ago as ifit affected them. To me, that
tells That tells me the victim mentalityhas been fully instilled in in in at

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least at least two generations. Yeah, because keep in mind, he is
a twenty nine year old millionaire withmore resources and opportunities than any of the
three of us will ever see.Absolutely, But but whoa, I mean,
whoe is Kyrie? He's so bummedout? You know. And look,
here's the deal, dude. Youdon't have to get up there and
fucking like you. It's a postgameinterview. They're asking you about the game.

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Now you want a grand stand andgo I'm not gonna talk about the
game. I'm gonna talk about otherthings. Why about you do this,
since you do have this fucking mediapulpit at your fucking beck and call,
why don't you answer the questions aboutthe game and then say I'm done talking
about the game now now I'm goingto talk about this or better yet,
I don't know, answer questions aboutthe game. Get up, walk back

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into your fucking locker room, pickup your cell phone. Go hi,
I'm Kyrie Irvin. Can I getopen on the phone. I'd like to
do an exclusive interview and talk aboutsocial justice with her. I'm sure she'd
fucking let him in and he wouldget a lot wider audience. So once
again, what are you doing.You're patting yourself on the back and you're
going, look, how woke Iam? Look how you're sending out the

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virtue signal. That's what you're doing. That's all you're doing. Yep,
And I'm done with it. I'mdone. You tell Kyrie say this it's
a it's a millennial move. That'sthat's how I saw it. He does
it on every major issue. Hedid it on flat earthing, he did
it on Black Lives. He's doneit, um my peoples. He just

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likes to make the headline whatever thenew hotness is for a topic. That's
where he remember wasn't he the guywho couldn't play for a few weeks because
he was so distraught over the thingsgoing on in the news. Didn't didn't
he need like, didn't he needtwo weeks off because of the Kenosha shit?
If he That's how it's a littleI pay attention to anything NBA.

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I didn't have no idea. Ido vaguely remember a few athletes saying that
they wouldn't or couldn't play because ofyou know what I'm saying that the the
social injustice. Somebody pulled it offon a cop and didn't throw it down
and charge it at him. Yeah, oh, whoops, my netflace to
say that anyway, Well, Imean it's it's it's you know, it's

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like the guy here in Detroit.You know, there's a block party.
First of all, we're in aquarantine. He's supposed to be having a
block party, but there's one inDetroit, surprising, one of the worst
cities in the country for this.In what fifteen sixteen months the ship's been
going on and Detroit's been a hotbedof COVID the entire time. But whatever.

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Then there's gun fire and there's multiplereports of multiple shots from multiple people.
So the cops show up. Twoguys standing on the street fit the
description of what they had called in. Hey, come here, we want
to talk to you. First guystops, puts his hands up. They
say, put your hands down,do you have any weapons on you?
Pat him down, start question him. As soon as the cops going to

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walk up to the other guy,he turns tail and runs. Now they
start chasing him. He pulls outa gun, turns around, starts firing
over his shoulder at him, andyou're done it. The cops body cameras
on. Okay, he got tackledby one of the cops, and even
after he was tackled by the copwas still getting rounds off and one of

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the rounds went so fucking close pastthe guy's head who had his he had
his bodycam on. You could hearit. Oh is this the thing last
summer where this thing a couple ofweeks ago? Oh? Okay, And
what did they do? They lethim the fuck up and he were like,
it's horrible, No, bro,I'm not I Hey. They didn't

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shoot him because he ran. Theydidn't shoot him in the back because he
ran. They shot him because heran and he pulled out a gun and
opened fire. Yeah, there wasan incident last summer. It's very similar.
Cost just wanted to talk to aguy. He pulled out a gun,
shot at him point blank. Thankgod he missed him. But yeah,
they let him up. And thenpeople in the neighborhood were like,
this is an unjust killing, andthis and that, and it was the

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fastest the DPD had the bodycamp footage. I usually got to wait a couple
of days. They had it outin like six hours. The DPD went
nope, no, that's not whathappened, because here's the bodycamp footage.
FU. You now now dpd's formerchief. He don't play that ship.
Yes, that's why if you forthose not to know, if not from

(30:11):
Detroit area, this chief last yearwas like, don't bring that bullshit from
the suburbs and you're in your peaceful, mostly peaceful protests into Detroit because we
ain't having it. Yeah, hedid your white ass in the suburbs and
keep your black asses at home ifyou want to riot. He did a
very good job of keeping when allthat every city was in the headlines last

(30:33):
summer, he did a very goodjob at keeping Detroit out of the headlines.
And I can't wait to vote forhim for governor. And when someone
asked him, well, what areDetroit residents supposed to do? You know,
and he's like, um, well, we don't have enough cops and
response times are ridiculously long because we'reunder staff. I suggest you by yourself
a weapon and defend your home somehow. That's comfort that that that's that's that's

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that's like a controversial opinion these days, whereas up until five ten years ago,
defending your home from people trying tobreak in and harm you a home
invasion was pretty much like, yeah, you get what you you get what
you deserve when you when you dothat shit. If you want to break

(31:18):
into someone's house while they're home andtry to try to fuck it at gunpoint
or strong arm them into doing something, and you get fucked up in the
process, I have no sympathy foryou, and I don't want to hear
this shit. If he had arough childhood, he grew up poor his
you know, he didn't grow upwith a dad. You know what,
I know a lot of people ofall races who fit all those categories and
they don't go out and pull shitlike this. Yeah, and now,

(31:42):
if you break into somebody's house andyour trip and break through your arm or
something, you can sue the people. Well, my stints is my words.
Go ahead, I say, mysaints has been this the whole time
we've been podcasting. It's still now. It doesn't matter if it's a police
or any or a civilian. Youpull a gun somebody and you get lit
up. I mean, do that'son you. I mean, in in

(32:05):
our lifetimes, if we live tothe expected lifetime of you know, people
are age in this country, Ialmost guarantee you will see. It's illegal
to defend your home. No matterwhat the circumstances, it's illegal. To
defend yourself no matter what the circumstances. I I dude, even three years
ago, I wouldn't. I wouldn'teven have fucking made it. I wouldn't

(32:27):
have made that guarantee. Now theway ship's going, dude, everything's everything
slipped on its head. Well,it's a minute unless unless you're beating a
woman, fucking a kid or shootingit cops or excuse me, beating a
woman fucking a kid or um likeyou know, like not cops shooting it
like you know, innocent bystanding likea crazy ass, like like the fucking

(32:51):
DC sniper type shit. You knowwhat I'm saying, Just crazy as serial
killer shit. Everything else is everythingexcuse for for him? Man? Well,
because we're third worth three generations inlike trust. We always bag on
the millennials and gen Z, butlet's be honest, jen X started this
ship with three generations in of Like, it's not your fault, something made
you do this. No, sometimesyou make a fucked up, dumb decision.

(33:13):
How about that? Is that stillin the cards? Apparently not?
And even and here's here's what blowsmy mind. They can go out and
kill a cop and they think theyshould only do ten years and when they
get out, you know, it'slike, oh, well here, let's
here, let's help you with everythingwe can. No, no, and

(33:34):
I'm not And you know, youguys, Chris, you earl, you've
known me long enough, and Chris, you've done enough shows me. You
know that I got much sympathy forpeople sitting in prison, more than most
people probably have, I guarantee.But if you commit a crime, you
have to be punished, Yes,okay, And ten years for killing somebody
ain't a punishment. That's a timeout. And that's ridiculous. And I

(34:00):
mean even and here's here's here's myproblem with this is that none of this
has talked about. When any ofthis shit is brought up, it's only
oh, these horrible cops out hereand blah blah blah. Yeah, there's
you know what, I'm not evengonna say most coups. There's a lot
of bad cops out there. There'sa lot of pieces of shit out there
with badges. There's also a lotof pieces of shit out there without badges.

(34:22):
Yeah, that's why, that's whywe have the people with badges.
Exactly when you're trying to keep thewolf from coming in and killing the fucking
sheep. You don't get another sheepto protect the sheep that the wolf is
after. Okay, I get otherwolf after this past year. I I

(34:43):
joke about it, but it's becomingso true. The state of Kansas is
like its own independent nation for real, dude. That whole part of the
country is like its own Yah.Yeah, but no, Kansas is really
different. I've talked to the copshere, I've talked to the gun shops
here, and they're all like,you know what, grab a gun,

(35:05):
carry that ship. M hmm.It helps us so much when people,
honest, responsible Americans have weapons.I had a cousin who lived in a
city in Georgia and part of theif you had if you had a there
was some law I don't know ifit still exists, but if you had
it, it was called Kennesaw Georgia. If you lived in no city limits,

(35:27):
you had to own a firearm,and allegedly they had like no crime
because it's it's because it's because it'sit's it's something Richest said one hundred thousand
times. And armed society is apolite society, and well saying get out
of dodge is from Kansas Dodge City, that's on the west side of Kansas.

(35:51):
And dude, I've seen it moreoften than not. I walk into
places and everybody has a gun ontheir hip. Oh that, by the
way, that drive from from whichitataDodge City. I wouldn't wish that.
I'm my worst enemy. Good God, yeah, right up Kellogg Avenue.
Absolutely no, it's just it's written. What they don't take about Kansas is
rich is half of it is literallynothing. Half of Kansas is a feed

(36:13):
lot. Oh, It's like it'slike it's like taking seventy five through Ohio.
Once you get past like Glima anda couple of the bigger cities,
it's just flattened nothing. Yeah,pretty much like I remember, Okay,
I remember going, man, everyonebags on Nebraska. At least Nebraska's hilly
like and then and it doesn't itand and yeah, and at least it's
farms like at Kansas. At somepoint it just becomes nothing. Seriously,

(36:37):
here in Kansas, the wind getslonely, all right. I mean,
it's just when they talk about theprairies and all of the American love of
anthem songs, they're talking about Kansas. Yes, the flattest place on our
sporte qustoper media dotnap qustoper media dotneap sporte to get to get back to

(37:06):
the to the kyrie urban NBA thing, the thing that keeps the more and
more. I hear these professional athletesand fucking musicians and actors and whatever the
fuck give their fucking two cents,I'm like, what are you really doing
to help? That's I'm saying.I'm channeling Toby Keith. Let's talk more

(37:27):
action. Any answer is they're doingnothing but stirring the pot and making us
lick the spoon. Okay, they'reuseful idiots for the people at the top
who want to hoard everything and keepus fighting about black and white and keep
us in each other's throats, sowe don't go, wait a minute,
there's three hundred and twenty million ofus and there's like a thousand of them.

(37:52):
Why are we listening to these assholes, and why are we letting them
rule over us like we're fucking subjectsin a medieval fucking time and not just
that. Why are we having tosit here and talk about poverty and try
to find ways to make ends meetwhile those thousands of people. That thousand
people have numerous fucking homes in manydifferent states. I am on my fifth

(38:13):
month of fighting with unemployment. I'vehad to borrow money from my fucking mom
four fucking times. Jesus, thesemotherfuckers, No, none of these motherfuckers
had lost their job in the lastfor two seconds, Chris, two seconds,
let's talk about that issue for twoseconds. One are you kidding me?
I just learned that the federal unemploymentprocess and the help is full of

(38:37):
shit up in Michigan. Even withthe three hundred dollars from the government,
you guys are gonna get four maybefive hundred dollars tops. No. Here
in Kansas, no, you getsix ninety two if you get the full.
Okay, here we get over eighthundred dollars. And that's not the
full. Well, it's the fullwith the juice on it. Yeah,

(38:59):
Okay, mine is after taxes onehundred dollars from the state of Michigan,
three hundred dollars federal. You're onthat, you're on that gig worker,
you're my wife's on m And theysent me the info and said you qualify
for this. Would you like it? You know? Click here to learn
more. I was lacking for thesemotherfuckers since five days before Christmas. All

(39:24):
right, I think it's on andwith them in June we have twenty twenty,
we are a week away from MemorialDay. I honestly, I think
what it is and I think thisis just one of those things that I
guess I should have bought lottery ticketsthe week that I got that letter from
the federal government saying I qualify forthe federal emergency Aid. It's one of

(39:45):
those rare occurrences that because I worka type of job that I work,
I was bumped up to the topof the list for aid, whereas you
worked a career type job. Andso they're probably like, oh, he
doesn't need to help as much asSO and so. Meanwhy once again we're
talking about politicians who are so outof touch with reality and what the average

(40:07):
person goes through, but we keepputting them in office to rule over us.
I mean, AOC I'm no bigfan of. But the one thing
I'll give that woman, I thinkshe really believed a lot of what she
believes is stupid, but I reallythink she really believes a lot of what
she believes. Yeah, I thinkshe's genuine and sincere. Now she's also

(40:27):
what twenty eight, twenty nine,it might be thirty now when she was
elected twenty and twenty. You don'tknow shit about shit. Yeah, she
was twenty something when she got elected. Okay, you haven't lived. Okay,
you went to you went to BostonCollege, and you bartended in New
York City. All right, Soshe was born an eighty nine, so
she's thirty one years old. Yeah, once again, And how does that

(40:52):
make you qualified to be a politician, because that's not even it. I
don't care about that. Good ideas, I don't I don't shit on good
ideas because of where they where theywere born. The problem is that we
have policy people who go to college, go to law school and become lawyers

(41:15):
and never ever once set foot inthe courtroom. They just did it so
they can get into politics. Andit's like, what degree does she have
from Boston College? I've never heard, And I mean it can't be that
greater one if the bitch is bartendingin New York City. I mean,
I mean, my guess is probablyliberal arts. I mean, I know
it's like fishing a barrel, butI don't see what Wikipedia say. I

(41:37):
just can't figure out how this federalunemployment system is supposed to help us.
Well, when I'm making nearly doublewhat you guys are making and it's more
expensive to live in Detroit than itis boom there, it is. There's
the truth, because of her statehas different limits. But I don't understand

(41:58):
it. It's supposed to be federal, and you guys are paying more for
shit than I'm paying here and I'mmaking double what you guys are making up
there. How how is that right? How is that even close to possible?
Dude? Because the people in ourstate. You know, I have
a family member. He's an asshole. He decided a little bit over a

(42:19):
year ago, he's never gonna talkto me again. Good die, slow
motherfucker. I don't care anymore.But I will say this. He was
absolutely right when he went, Wow, state of Michigan really hates poor people.
And I'm like, yes, theydo. Don't have a car,
or fuck, don't have it,you don't live within I mean, dude,
we don't have public transportation to speakof because we're the most city there.

(42:42):
We're not going to install wonderful publictransportation when we're building cars in this
city and we want people to buyfucking cars. It's not gonna happen,
you know. But highest car insurancein the nation for no good reason,
none whatsoever. Rich, Rich,Let's go through this real quick. What's
the price of gas up there?Three bucks? Uh? Well, I'm

(43:04):
a little farther out. I paidthree nineteen today. Okay, it's two
seventy seven here in Kansas. Andfurthermore, they have a gas station called
the Quick Trip that you can usebonus points. You know, you spend
money, get a post, getthis that it all accumulates on this card.
And for every thousand points you getten cents off a gallon. It's
like Kroger fuel points here ye,speedy points. Yeah right, So it's

(43:30):
two seventy seven here. And ifI wait to you know, a little
bit to accumulate some points, Ican get it for under two dollars a
gallon. How much a cigarettes up? Eight bucks? Yeah? Eight bucks?
Now? Earl is it? They'relike they're like, so five it's
like in the nineties, orl isfive dollars. Jesus, I remember driving

(43:53):
some hours for a pack of premiumcigarettes not off brand, fifteen years ago
in this state. I share Ithink it has been that long. I
remember driving and seeing the cigarette pricesbeing like, God, damn, I'm
gonna start smoking again. But fivedollars? What's a gal in the milk
up? Third? Two bucks?Yeah that I don't know. I don't

(44:13):
really buy them out a dollar seventynine, But I see that's I get
your point. But no, myhey, Kyrie, fuck your people overseas.
Talk about your people here, dude. Well that's what I was gonna
get at. That's what I wasgonna get at for all this whining and
crying and awareness raising, which I'mdone with. Awareness. Fuck awareness.

(44:36):
We're aware of everything when we allhave Yeah, we all have the smartphones
and there's a twenty four hour newscycle. Awareness is covered. Yes,
we got it. Um. Youknow there's people who, I mean,
first two to come top of myhead. When they died, it came
out that they gave away like ridiculousamounts of money and they always did it

(44:59):
only on the condition that you neverfucking say that I gave you this money.
As John Candy and Chris Farley,both of them gave a lot of
money to charities, a lot ofmoney to poor fucking groups that were helping
poor people, community outreach groups,food banks, all that shit. You
didn't hear anything about it till theydie. Okay, I'm not even asking

(45:21):
for their level of humility. I'mjust asking for their level of action out
of these fucking assholes running their fuckingmiles and getting paid what fucking ten million
dollars to play a fucking child's game. Yeah, but by the way,
if you make more than the fuckingaverage household in this country, I don't
want to hear your thoughts on thepoor people's situation. If Kyrie Irving woke

(45:44):
up tomorrow and made fifty thousand dollars, he would eat a bullet. You
know. I love Chris Rock,but one of the biggest bullshit lines he
ever put out there that people haveran with is now one white person would
change spots with me because I'm blackand I'm rich. And when he said
that, I was like, motherfucker, I'll give you my my account information.

(46:07):
You can wire every bit of moneyyou ever have made and will make
to me, and I'll be youall day long because I can afford lawyers
for the bullshit that I run into. Absolutely I go with that with any
black person everybody's like white privilege,this white privilege. I'm like, my
white privilege. I'll tell you what, dude, I'll tell you what.

(46:28):
Every cop that passes me can pullme over, every single one of them.
You want to talk about white prigyou deal with my shit. You
deal with how I have to live. I'll deal with how you have to
live. And let's see who's privilegeyear. Because we're white. You don't
get your white privilege check when itcomes everywhere. Girl, This is what

(46:49):
I'm talking about. This is thenew pastime for these people. This is
goalpost movie. And he Here's thething what blows my mind is thirty years
ago I was fourteen years old sittinghere listening to Christians do everything these woke
flakes are now doing and claiming victimhoodthe entire time. And it's like they

(47:12):
were equally as stupid and full ofshit period. This scene. Oh you're
just the right wing fascist. Okay, well if you want to think that,
think that that and fucking two fiftyyou'll buy you a cup of shitty
coffee. Okay, I don't careanymore, But the reality is this is
bullshit. You keep moving the goalposts. White privilege doesn't mean that your life
is easier because you're white. Itmeans it's not hard because you're white.

(47:36):
Huh. Everybody that works out herethat says white privilege. They're talking about
police. They say, you don'tget harassed by the cops so much.
I'm like flying. They leave noroom for nuanced because when I lived in
Detroit, was getting off at oneo'clock in the morning and driving back into
Detroit from fucking from a suburb.Okay, coming from a suburb and a

(48:00):
Detroit cop watched me cross eight mileand going to Detroit. I would get
pulled over, what are you doingin this neighborhood this time? Well?
Yeah, I used to drive homea guy used to work with when I
worked in Berkeley. He lived atuh seven mile and uh, I forget
just but yeah, And after Idropped him off, got pulled over,

(48:21):
what are you doing here? Justdropped the guy off at that house right
there? Really, that's all youdid? Yep? Can I search your
car? Go ahead? Like yeah? And then in my work clothes still
smelling like pizza, like pizza.Yeah. Ultimate defense to that that subject
of I don't get harassed by cops. By the time I was seventeen years
old. I had thirty two pointson my life because because in Michigan,

(48:47):
if you spend your tires, theygot reckless driving, careless driving. I
pulled away from the curb one timeat night and then turned my lights on
and got pulled over for driving withouthedlight. Well, the other thing,
too, was what part of theconversation, you know, kind of what
rich was getting at. It's like, you drive a car that's more than
ten years old, it doesn't matterwhat color you are, you're gonna get

(49:07):
fucked with. Dude. When Iwent from driving around in a nineteen eighty
three Grand Prix, you remember thatcarl the radio, The windows didn't go
down. It had a ghastly exhaustleaked to the inside of the car.
The only window that worked was themoon roof, and a radio works my
head at BOOMBOXX. I had aboom box and a converter so I could

(49:28):
plug into the cigarette lighter and listento the radio. The fender had a
rust hole in it you could dropa bowling ball through. Dude. I
lived in Garden City. I liveda block and a half from the police
station. I got pulled over allthe fucking time when I got eight nineteen
now, and this was in nineteenninety nine, by the way, when
I got in nineteen ninety five,fucking Dodge, fucking me on, I

(49:51):
didn't even get no second looks,Nope, none. Now if I was
black when I got second, yeah, probably in Garden City. Yeah,
No one's denying that. No onehere is denying that. No one's denying
the cops. There aren't cops thatlook at black people and go, what,

(50:12):
he's a criminal. I just haven'tcalled him yet, And no one's
denying. There's cops that look whitepeople and go, well, he's probably
not a criminal. But I alsoknow I know quite a few cops.
I know cops who think everybody's guilty. They just ain't found your crime yet.
Okay, so you can't pull thisbullshit. I mean, And on
top of it, how many ofthese people who are bitching and complaining about
police and this and how they're treated, how many of them actually even know

(50:37):
a police know a police officer?How many of them you think, right?
Yeah? Probably you think Kyrie Irvan'shanging out with cops. I bet
you he won't even hire an offduty cop or a former cop as his
bodyguard. I was gonna say,I bet said, I bet you he
is. I bet you they fuckingmake sure he doesn't get fucked with him
public. Well, no, there'sthere's that's that's kind of if you go

(51:00):
to certain corners of the internet.I'll leave it at that, you're going
to find certain groups. And yes, the never hire or or give a
former police officer an opportunity. Thatis now I guarantee within five years,
not even five years, probably withinthe next year. It's because we've went

(51:20):
from what was it to fund thepolice. Now you have just people like
politicians and cities flat out trying toabolish their police force. Oh and I
heard a new one. Two dismantledprisons once again. Man, okay,
where are they gonna go? Theylive a knife to you? Okay,

(51:43):
we'll just put them in your backyard. Beckel non violent drug crimes. You
know how you get those people outof prison? You llegalize drugs and you
release everyone that's in there for nonviolent drug crimes. Yeah, problems solved
on that. Okay, right there, there's most of the prison population.
Talk to people who've been in prison, not jail, not some little bullshit
six months, not some little hitfucking year in county. I'm talking double

(52:07):
fucking digits in prison, and theywill tell you the vast majority of people
in prison are normal, everyday,hard working, good people who got caught
up in some bullshit. Your murderers, your rapist, your child molesters.
Is you know your hardcore criminals,you're your organized crime, your gangsters,
your thieves. Most of those guys, they're doing life on the five year

(52:30):
installment plan. They're in and outof prison. They're they're what they call
the celebrities because they'll be released fromprison in three weeks later, show back
up and come strutting down to fuckingthe mainline in gen pop and they're getting
shouted out like they're fucking they justwant the goddamn super Bowl. Okay,
get rid of that, get ridof institutionalizing, get rid of housing people

(52:52):
like animals in subhuman conditions, andalso understand, stop putting fucking people in
there for gee, I don't know, uh, non violent drug crimes in
with lifers, how about that?That might be a good idea. Because
anybody who's ever been locked up,dude, I've been to rehab twice.
I went in with a ged indrugs. I came out with a PhD

(53:14):
that I learned more about how todo drugs I've never done than I learned
about recovery in rehab. So whatdo you fucking think of prisons? Like
like like, I can get onboard with restructuring, understanding that the system
we have is outdated, it isoutmoded, it is not working. I'm
all for that, But to justopen the fucking prison gates, okay,

(53:38):
And what happens when? When whenwhen a bunch of fucking gangsters start doing
gangster shit? Who you're gonna call? You already got rid of the cops.
Even if you call the cops,you can't do nothing with them if
they convict them, because we ain'tgot prisons, abolish the police and dismantled
prisons. That's do people who comeup with these where we're back to bringing

(53:59):
it back? Uh? That isthat is not pragmatic thinking. Okay,
fine, you came up with acouple of cutchy slogans, but what is
yours? What's your alternative? What'sgoing to replace them? Because something is
going to because you know I'm withyou. Riche someone who had a brick
of heroin and somebody who killed hisfucking family are not the same type of
criminal. One needs to be lockedaway, one does not. I'll even

(54:22):
go so far as to say,as long as you have not been a
violent criminal, I'm attle, Idon't even fuck If you commit a felony,
you get out. You're not aviolent criminal. You you should have
all your rights restored. You shouldn'thave to go through the legal system.
Yeah, but once again, whoayeah, dude, you are You're sounding
like ten pounds of shit a twopound back. You need to fix that.

(54:45):
Oh how about worse? Not muchnot much better? You were fine
earlier? What happened is that anybetter? Like? Are you eating the
It sounds like the mic is fuckingridiculously close to your mouth now before it
was, it's distorting. How aboutnow? Yes? Yes, better?
Okay, But I mean, dude, like I'm saying, it goes back

(55:08):
to what we were saying before.This is the thousand people, not the
three hundred and fifty million people.Don't stick with a thousand. There's more
than a thousand politicians in this country. I'm just the upper thousand that I
want to talk about. Because prisonis the new slavery system. That's where

(55:29):
their money's at, and they're notgoing to change it. They're not going
to change it for you, meor anybody else. That is their money
system. You put people in prison, and keep them in prison, and
keep them in prison, and youmake bank. Do you realize if you
go to a fucking federal prison ora state prison, not county, not
city jail, talking, you're doingstate time or federal time. If you

(55:51):
get caught, I don't care ifyou've got twenty five years. If those
twenty five years, if you getcaught jerking off three times, they will
charge you as a sex offender.They will add time onto your fucking already
there, And if you get out, you have to register as a sex
offender for the rest of your lifefor jerking off in prison with a twenty

(56:13):
five year sentence. Would you ratherI fucked some guy in the ass?
Right? Would you rather we rapeeach other and pass around aids like a
party joint? This is how shortsightedthe shit is. See Kyrie Irvin and
any anybody. I don't give afuck, even Kaepernick. They had valid
points. They let the bullshit andhyperbole muddy the waters to the point where

(56:38):
the valid points they could have made. No one's listening to anymore because they're
done with their bullshit. They're theirown worst enemy. Like I can get
on board with some of what isbeing said. Oh actually, in some
situations a lot of what's being said. I don't agree with the fucking fact
that we have to roll around likedude, No one should have to worry
about getting killed for a fucking routinetraffic stop and talking about the cops.

(57:00):
So talking about the dude in thecar. Okay, if you ain't got
a gun drugs, you're not fuckingrunning from someone and a cop pulls you
over because your tail light's out?What do you got your gun out of
your holster for? Right? Okay, you know what I'm saying, Like
you can't put your hand on it, get ready, Look, I understand,
But you pull your ship and walkup to my fucking window, which

(57:22):
has happened for a tail light beingout? You put me on edge.
Now you've got two people who arepissed off and fucking irritated and you have
to deal with each other. Gee, let's look at recorded history. How
often does that situation turn out goodfor all involved? If It's a phrase

(57:42):
here that applies. Don't start nothing, won't be nothing. I mean,
dude, I've been pulled over forsuspicion of not wearing a seatbelt. Did
you pull your gun out and belike, what the fuck are you doing?
Only roll your window down an inchand say I don't have to fuck
it? Like, did you doall that shit? No? And I
damn sure didn't do what that onelady did, which was rolled out of
my window and go I want youto your supervisor because you're a murderer,
because he's a cop. And ofcourse it was some middle aged white lady

(58:06):
fucking trying to flex her fucking nutsbecause I guess she slept with somebody of
a person of color and in highschool or college one time, so she
feels woke through injection or some shit. I don't know. I'm just like,
our bitch, are you serious?And here's the bitch of it.
She called him a racist and amurderer. He's Latino. Yeah really,
okay then, but but race racismisn't about race, it's about race plus

(58:30):
power. Well, he can't beracist because, according to you, all
Latinos have no power. In fact, anyone who's not white has no power,
so he can't be racist. Soimmediately her argument crumbles to pieces,
just like just like that stupid assstory she'd never been on the fucking news.
That was a cop pulling her overon a legit fucking stop, and

(58:53):
her fucking doing everything she fucking couldto antagonize the situation to make it a
fucking incident. Before he even walkedup to her window, her window was
down, her phone was on recording, hanging out the window, and she's
yelling at him, don't come nearme, you murderer. I want your
supervisor. I just that's the talethat's being woven. We're telling like it's

(59:16):
I want to say that telling blackpeople they're being hunted, that is false.
I'm so scared for this day becauseI feel that it's gonna come when
all the police in this country arelike, you know what, fuck it,
handle it yourself, don't call me, don't call her no more.
Well, how'd you get this number. I've been reading stories ever since last

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summer about many departments where cops arequitting and they can't find people to replace
them because a lot of guys,I mean a lot of guys are just
going this shit. I'm not doingthis for forty grand a year. Fuck
you earl. We know, weknow, we have a mutual friend who's
a police officer excuse me, nothim per se, but I've talked to

(01:00:01):
him about this and he's like,oh, yeah, yeah, there's guys
who were going to go for you, like, you know, a twenty
five thirty years and then retire whowe're taking retirement at fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen years or like it just ain'tworth it, dude. He's like,
like, we it is. Itis to the point where like I've seen
videos not bodycam footage the cops,this ain't the cops release and is trying

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to make other people look bad andbe like poor pity us. This is
the public recording cops and random peoplefrom the public be rating cops in public,
like the famous Starbucks one where theysaid we will no longer serve police.
Next time you get robbed, don'tfucking call us, and their whole
reason was because you have a youhave a weapon on you, and it

(01:00:45):
makes our customers nervous. Well,I'm a police officer, you fucking idiot.
It's kind of if it's part ofthe job. Well, you know
what they Well, they don't needguns in Europe, in England, they
don't have guns. You want totalk about the crimes in those countries too,
Well, first of all, that'sbullshit. They can get believe me,
when their swat teams kick open thedoor, they're fucking well armed.

(01:01:08):
Okay. They're not going in therewith toothpicks and fucking you know, harsh
language and dirty looks, going Goddamn it, do what we tell you
to do. What else we're gonnastick you with this toothpick. No,
they're going in cocked locked, readyto rock. Okay. Second of all,
yeah, they don't have guns overthere, so you know what they

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have now, mass stabbings people,random people walking down the street with jars
of sulfuric acid throwing them in people'sfaces. Okay, now, yeah,
Psycho's that better than guns. Psychosare gonna psycho no matter what, no
matter where you are. My peoplegot to ask that on their face or
I'm not worried about basketball right now. I mean, dude, like that,

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Charlie, hebdo shit, right,that was a guy. That was
a guy with a knife, right, dude. And by the way,
everybody's got the Internet. It was. It's been almost a decade now since
fucking the UN declared it a humanright, all right, I mean here
in America, if you can't afforda smartphone, our government will give you
one. Now, if you've gota smartphone and you know how to use

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Google, you can google how tobuild a bomb, don't need a gun,
and you can take out way morepeople and be nowhere near the situation
when it goes off. You couldbe sitting in a police station talking to
a death sergeant. Why the bombblows up? That's all airtight alibi in
it. I'll tell you one further, rich, I could just get in
my car right now and go driveit into a crowd of people on purpose.

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See. But that's that's people whodon't give a funk whether they live
or die. But I'm talking aboutgetting away with shit, because everything is
gun owners are getting away with something. They're breaking the lawn, getting away
with something. The guns show loophole, which has turned out to be all
bullshit. That's that's a complete exaggerationof the facts. Just like calling an
ache duct an assault weapon, there'sno such thing as an asault weapon.

(01:02:55):
An assault weapon, an assault weaponis a term made up by people who
want to ban guns. I comefrom a military family. Okay, here's
people in my family who fought,possibly on the wrong side or in the
history of the troubles. Okay,uh tell you something doesn't really fucking matter

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about the gun. If you wantto do some damage, you'll do it.
And if you want to, ifyou want to, I just I
can't. I can't. I can't. I can't do this anymore. I
can't. I got to move on. Yeah, I'm just saying a weapon
right, well, other than then, so where does it stop? Where
does it stop? I mean,even if the next guy, the next

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guy who gets into his fucking carand runs into a group of people,
if he's driving a fucking forward focus? Is our forward focus? Is now
assault vehicles? Is that what thatis? If? If if if,
if, if you bump into achick at a crowded fucking bar, if

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we ever get back to crowded bars, Okay, And I mean I'm not
saying you grab her, sexually,harass her, touch her inappropriately, just
bump into her. Is that anassault? Because that's where we were going.
Everything is, everything's all, everything'shorrible, everything's like legal gun owners

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are looked at as criminals, andcriminals are looked at as saints. We
are through the looking glass. Peopleenjoy this last gasp of this country because
in twenty five years you won't recognizeit. Yeah. I ain't talking about
immigration, i ain't talking about thedemographic makeup. I'm talking about we are

(01:04:41):
going to turn into some third worldshitthole because people were crying because they can't
get their fucking way. Well,remember last summer that couple and Saint Louis
that became a meme. Those werelegal gun owners, and you were supposed
to have sympathy for the gang ofpeople that broke into the gated community and
we're fucking I'm the gate. Yeah, film themselves doing it, posted themselves

(01:05:04):
doing it while filming it, livestreamed it on Facebook and YouTube, and
then cried where are the victim?They point your guns then us Did you
get shot? No? Well,because they're yourself a lot more lucky because
if I'd been holding that gun,I'd probably be getting judged by twelve right
now because I had to put ahot one right between your stupid fucking eyes.

(01:05:25):
You just fucking went through a goddamnwrought iron gate with a fucking mob
of people, and I'm trying tostore my property. Yeah, and now
you're trying to storm my property.Be a cold day in fucking hell.
Let me tell you something. Asfar as an assault weapons, not sorry,
I was saying, good luck,even if you had a twenty two,

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A gun period has one responsibility.That's it a projectile coming out to
stop something being a criminal, afucking animal. They're all for assault.
They're not there to open doors.They're not there to get you to the
fucking supermarket and back. They're notthere to take you on a plane ride.

(01:06:06):
A gun, period is an assaultweapon, every single one of them.
What we're saying here is assault weaponshould be in the same category with
hate crime. You're being redundant,right, Look, I don't I don't
give a fuck about. The pointis if I put a gun in the
middle of the fucking desert and walkedand drive one hundred miles away and there's

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no one around that gun for onehundred miles, that gun is no more
dangerous than a fucking I don't know, a pizza, fucking trash shitting on
the ground. It becomes dangerous withsomeone picks it up with ill intent.
Okay, it's a fucking tool nowif and here once again, are these
people that are to fund the policeabolished the police. Are they arguing,

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Hey, the cops they go totheir gun too quick? Yeah, I
agree on that. I think.Believe me, carrying a gun gives you
a false sense of security. Youbelieve me. I've worked security jobs where
I had to have a side arm. Of where jobs where I had to
carry twenty four to seven me iwent on Rotten dot com. I know

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what a handgun or a shotgun cando it close range, Okay, and
you don't have to be a crackshot to do it either, especially with
a fucking scatter rifle. All right, go look at fucking head wounds,
gunshot wounds and you realize that's whatyou're going to do to somebody. That
better be an absolute last resort.But I'm telling you this. You break
into my house in the middle ofthe night and you come in armed with

(01:07:38):
intent to harm me, we justfast forward it to the last resort.
In my book, You're dead,period. I don't care, and I
don't care what color you are whenit's happening. Okay, it doesn't matter
to me. And the problem isis that everybody assumes the worst about everybody
else, now except for their owntribe. Let me put it to you
that one. Yeah, everybody,So you're going to shoot this person and

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protect your You care more about yourpossessions than his life. No, he
cared more about my possessions than hislife, and he has happened there.
Yeah, absolutely, dude. Yeah, I guess what. That's not even
people who aren't supposed to be inmy house, especially if I did not
invite them. Well, you know, it's funny. You know, you
get pulled over and supposedly these copshave no rights to do anything, and

(01:08:26):
you're supposed to be able to customout and tell them to fuck off and
refuse their fucking lawful, fucking youknow, requests or orders and you know,
resist to rest and be fought andyou know, and nothing happened because
of it. But you know,a criminal breaks in and we're supposed to
you know, no, no,no, no, no, no,
you gotta give him the benefit ofthe doubt. Why why because you guys
share a skin tone. Hey,by the way, here here's my secret

(01:08:48):
to my white privilege. When Iget pulled over. I treat them like
a person who has a gun boom. I don't treat them like a cop.
I treat them like a person whohas a firearm strapped to their hip.
And let me tell you something fromexperience. If you get an asshole
cop, smile, let him writeyou up and take his ass to court.

(01:09:10):
And I'm not saying sue I'm gonnalike or nothing like that. I'm
talking show up in court, fightthe fucking ticket, because it's in my
experience. Half the time they don'tshow up if they wrote you a bullshit
ticket because they know they can't defendit in front of a judge, and
their department will fucking write it offas we couldn't you know, he'd already
matched out his overtime, he couldn'tget court overtime or court pay, or
you know, he had to covera shift. And when they don't show

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up, ninety percent of the time, it's dismissed. The ten percent it
wasn't it was pay to find nopoints, have a nice day, Okay,
cool, My insurance doesn't go upand I'm out eighty bucks, but
I'm good. I just don't wantto pay pay for a bullshit ticket from
a fucking cop who whose wife wastoo toothy on the blow job the night

(01:09:54):
before for the next five years ofmy insurance because he's pissed off. Either
way, rich gets to walk away. But do you see what I'm saying,
dude, I come from a bunchof fucking truck drivers like we drive.
That's what the fuck my family doesfor a fucking living. Between my
grandfather and my uncle and my father, they probably put in I know my

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dad would put in one hundred thousandplus miles a year on the road,
so and he did, and hedrove for thirty five years, so you
tell me and my dad and mygrandfather drove from when he got out of
the fucking army till he was forcedto retire, and my uncle drove from
the mid eighties up until a yearago. So how many miles do you
think they've drove? By the way. They don't just deal with local cops.

(01:10:39):
They deal with DOT and they dealwith state cops a lot more.
Drive by away station. Look who'ssitting in there. It ain't local cops
and d OT and state cops don'tcut you slack because they don't have to.
Yeah, it's not like the moviesupertru Virtail. My point by saying
all this is these are people whowon. We're doing a job. It's

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already looked down upon by most society. Two being pulled over by cops who
had no reason to ever fucking givethem the benefit of the doubt. Any
in three. I'm gonna tell you, all three of them make me look
like I don't even have a temper, okay, And they managed to fucking
negotiate a million plus miles between thethree of them and ninety years worth of

(01:11:21):
driving experience and never get shot,never get arrested for fucking talking shit to
a cop. The problem, itis a problem with society. It's a
young man problem. Don't disrespect me, you have to respect don't talk down
to me. I'm a man,blah blah blah. And it's a bigger

(01:11:41):
problem in the black community. Andthat ship was around when we were that
age two. It's nothing, it'snot new. Yeah, it's nothing new.
No, when we were young,it was you can put respect on
my name, that kind of shit, get my name out your mouth.
All that ship. So at thispoint, for listening to spun Regiment,
Yeah, ye, that are inchange. Well, you know what,

(01:12:05):
here's the deal. Here you go, here's the irony of the situation.
He gets up there, eject thisnonsense out of his cock holster for a
few minutes, solves no problems,stirs the shit pot insist everybody else licked
the spoon. We've talked about itfor an hour and talked more in depth
and got in and dealt with morenuance and in context and also offered solutions

(01:12:31):
instead of just going shit's fucked andwalking out. That's not helping anybody.
We know shit's fucked. Okay,we know it. Let me ask you
a question. You're sitting on deathrow, you get your execution date.
If I'm a if I'm a fuckingCEO, and I walk past your fucking
cell every day and go thirty moredays, twenty nine more days, twenty

(01:12:53):
eight more days, what am Idoing? And I'm exasperate? I'm making
the situation worse. Yeah, that'swhat these fucking people do. Stop listening
to him, and I don't evengo a step further. Hey, I'll
be the first to admit the vastmajority of Boycott's they don't do shit.
But I'm gonna tell you what you'redumb if you're giving your money to people
who hate you and they're not hidingtheir hatred anymore. It's right out in

(01:13:15):
the open. In fact, theemotion that we are most comfortable with in
this country is hatred for each otherright now? Oh yeah, I mean
all social media is it's it's justit's nothing but a collection of people who
who love schadenfreud. And that's essentiallywhat what what social media has turned into.
People get enjoyed from other people's pastry. Yep, absolutely, I mean

(01:13:42):
it's first of all, you're afucking athlete who maybe went to college for
what a year? Kyrie Irvin,he had to be good enough to where
he came out after his first year. I can't imagine he fucking red shirted
and did five years of the college. He might be in that age group
or remember when they because of Lebronand Kobe, they made you go to
college for a minute. He mighthe might be that age That's what I'm

(01:14:05):
talking about. Yeah, yeah,yeah, because yeah, they made him
you have to do one year.So it's not like he's got a fucking
you go tell me he's got fuckinga PhD. And all this bullshit that
he's popping off with his one yearof college. If that, no,
no, No. The problem withKyrie is he used to be good,
like real real good. I meanhe's he's a champion, He's the NBA

(01:14:27):
champion. Well I've learned something abouthim. He could shut the fuck up.
He's from Australia. He was bornin Melbourne, Australia. Because I'm
trying to figure out if you wentto college or not. And that's here's
the thing, now that's kind offucked up. Who is this people you
talk about to Aborigines? Right?I think about him him in midnight oil

(01:14:55):
can get together and record beds areburning too. There there you go,
thank you for stepping all. I'mlike, joke, Yeah he did.
He did a whole year at Duke. Get the fuck out of here,
dude. The first of all,I got family that lived down there,
Okay. Who Half of them areDuke fans, half of them are North
Carolina fans, and they'll tell youthere ain't no such thing as a student

(01:15:18):
athlete. Those college basketball fucking programs. Any Anybody who comes out of either
of those programs with a degree inanything that really matters is the exception,
not the rule. Those programs donot recruit for fucking high GPA. Yeah,
that's like, that's like saying there'sit's it's like saying there's student athletes

(01:15:40):
on the Alabama football team. Oh, they're paying to amateurs. It's like
the it's like the line from fuckingBasketball, Where did Shack make all his
money college? It's kind of true. Let's be honest here, let's stop
the bullshit, folks. Oh,Kyrie, his parents are ex pats,
So what's he doing here? Right? If they renounced their citizenship and left

(01:16:04):
for another country because this country wasso horrible, then why did their baby
boy come crawling back here to getthat big fat American dollar and put big
fat American asses and seats to watchand play a child's game. Why didn't
he go better the world with hisoh so fucking progressive and woke parents and
play rugby? He moved here andhe was two with his dad. Oh

(01:16:25):
so his parents obviously weren't loving enoughto stay together. Oh okay, all
right, so yeah, see seethis is me playing their game at the
bit of new information given to meis AMMO to use against them, because
that's how they do everybody else,And what does this give us? This
is mutually assured destruction on an ideologicallevel, and eventually it breeds people like

(01:16:48):
Trump. And I shuddered to thinkof what the fucking the anti Trump coming
from the fucking Democratic Party is goingto be. But what it's going to
guarantee in the end is a scorchedearth policy because we're already seeing it.
I mean, the gridlock in Congress, in politics in the last fucking what

(01:17:11):
thirteen fourteen years has been off thecharts at least for my lifetime, oh
for sure. I mean he startedin twenty Christopher media dot at Christopher Media
Dot at sport. Now, seehere's the thing, Kyrie kind of missed
the NBA bus. He's trying tomake all this news, but NBA's done

(01:17:36):
with it. I mean, seriously, the NBA is getting with this social
justice issues, whether it be blacklives or people across these whatever, like
Rich does with me sometimes, shutthe fuck up. They lost their viewership
or are they? They're not tellingtheir players to shut up? I mean
there's still no no, no,no no. But then we're talking about

(01:17:59):
from Saturday man. Yeah, butthey're promoting different athletes now, Thank God
for the NBA. Steph Curry hasn'tcome out on these issues because not an
idiot, but he hasn't come outon any of the issues of black lives
because Steph Curry has a brand toworry about and kids to feed and he

(01:18:19):
does it very well. And canshoot a ball. Oh god, can
he shoot a ball. I'm knowI've set up before I followed him since
Davis Davidson. Oh god, hecan shoot. And he did just win
the scoring title. He did,But the NBA now is more focused on
him than they even are the KingLebron By the way, you said that,

(01:18:41):
I disagree with that. But yousaid the Warriors were done. They're
in the playing game. They couldstill make the playoffs. Something not done.
But a minute now, See theWarriors are in the playing game.
They could make the playoffs. Comparedto what the Warriors were the team to
beat in the finals. Yeah,dude, they're done. They're not who
they were. Still they still couldmake the playoffs. Done is done?

(01:19:05):
Is they're not playing? Done?Is their season is over? As of
yesterday? For five years, theywere the team to beat. For five
fucking years. They were the Bulls. They were the team. They were
like, we're gonna say we're talkingabout their marquee player just in the scoring
title, because he's the bomb.He's the best shooter in the NBA,

(01:19:28):
maybe ever in the NBA. Wellhe has been for a while. You
can't not not talk about him.But here's the thing, that's what the
NBA realizes. Let's talk about himand get away from all this social shit
because it's costing. It's literally money, you know, just cold shut the
fuck up. A lot of thiscould be fucking solved by well, I
don't know if it could be solvedbecause there's so many things that have to

(01:19:50):
happen. It's almost a perfect stormof bullshit that has to come come together
at the right time. But Imean, I'm thinking of, like,
you know, athletes who actually puttheir ass where their convictions were and have
done more than just run off atthe mouth during interviews. Muhammad Ali,
you know, well he's not alive. But I was thinking, you know,
where's Jim Brown, where's cream AbdulJabbar to sit these young guys down

(01:20:14):
and go look, man, Yeah, it's nice that you want to talk
on the mic and shit, butyou need to do something. You want
to be a fucking activist being anactivist because right now you're just a mouthy
athlete. You know what, they'reyou ain't put shit. One hundred thousands
of you ain't shit. So Idon't want to hear about one hundred thousand
you gave to some fucking YMCA.You know what. They're older guys.

(01:20:34):
They probably realized that they don't,they would be wasting their time. I
think that's problem. I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna stay on topic. Just
change. It's a little bit BRIT'schiming on this because I need to get
some some opinions here. Kyrie,you want to talk about your people,
I'm with you one hundred percent becauseI'm about to talk about my people.
But go to work pistons so fuckingentertaining champions, My god in heaven,

(01:21:00):
How in the fuck is Chris Webbergoing into the Hall of Fame but the
go to work pistons aren't. BenWallace is, Yeah, he's the first
undrafted player to ever go into theNBA Hall of Fame. Oh so we
got one. He's going. He'swell, I mean, first of all,
how long is the way other dead? I'm sure they'll still be.

(01:21:21):
It's the first year they're probably allof eligible. Well I didn't realize this.
Uh. Ben Wallace left the Pistonsin twenty twelve. That was his
last season, the twenty eleven twentytwelve season. Then he went to Chicago,
Chicago, he signed that big asscontract. I don't know where he
went after that. But let's see, that was way before twenty twelve when

(01:21:43):
he left, he left like acouple of years after their title. He
came back. He might have retiredin twenty Hold on, if only there
was something that could give us thisinformation. I'm looking up as is no,
no, yeah, you're right.Yeah. He went to Chicago and
to thousand and six to two thousandand eight. He went to Cleveland from
the two thousand and two thousand andnine season, and then he ended his

(01:22:05):
career with Detroit. Okay, mybad, all right, I had it
wrong. I was right, wasI just remember the time in my life
when he moved and I was Iwas managing a store in Rochester Hills and
that was definitely like two thousand andsix, two thousand and eight ish,
And that's the well also too,that's I also used to sell him his
his wife used to come in allthe time. Okay, let me refocus

(01:22:26):
the question. How the fuck isChris Webber going on? That's a very
good question, Yeah, because hedid not have a great career from what
I From what I understand, hewas like an NBA journeyman. The most
I could think about Chris Webber ishe changed He helped change college basketball,
him and the Fab Five. Thebiggest thing I remember about it he could

(01:22:48):
do when the Pistons signed him.Not everyone around here was fucking juiced about
it because of how he left Michigan. Yeah, personally, everything aside.
The biggest thing I could think aboutChris Webber seriously and the basketball world is
what he did with the Fab Five. I can't think of a damn thing
he did with the Kings or anybodyelse to give him a Hall of Fame.

(01:23:11):
Well, dude, here's okay.This is not my argument. This
is just the argument I've heard.Don't bother fucking wasting your goddamn breath on
me, go online and argue withthem fucking retards. Here's the thing that
I keep hearing. It's not theNBA Hall of Fame, it's the Basketball
Hall of Fame. All basketball meaningall basketball, meaning college European leagues,

(01:23:38):
NBA, What WNBA eventure because there'sa w NBA player going into the Hall
of Fame has nothing to do it. We've already covered that ad nauseum.
Okay, I mean, come on, let's be honest here reading the story.
It is called the Nay Smith MemorialBasketball Hall of Fame. So so

(01:23:58):
we're putting Chris Webber in there forbasically the Fab five then and what they
did to change college basketball. Okay, that's okay, You're you're asking me
to say that someone else's argument iswhat there are. I don't know what
they're arguing. I guess that's whatthey're saying. That's the only thing I
can rationalize in reason out of thatstatement, because I've heard the same thing

(01:24:21):
with you know, well, ifyou look at Gretzky, the first what
year or two of his of hisstats were in the WHL, So why
does that count towards his Hall ofFame numbers? Because it's the hockey Hall
of Fame, it's not just theNHL Hall of Fame. Okay, same
thing with each row and his hits. But because baseball's baseball, and the

(01:24:44):
writers are fucking gatekeepers, like likenobody's business. Nope, that happened in
the Japanese League. Our hit leaderstill Pete Rose. And to me,
no, it should be like everythingelse. How many hits do you have
in Japan? And you can't tellme Japan doesn't play at a high level.
Go back and look up how they'vedone in the Olympics, how they've
done in the World Baseball Classic.You can't have your cake and eat it.

(01:25:08):
Two. Our pit leader is notPete Rose and banned from baseball?
Which one is it? Well,that's once again baseball is gate kept by
the writers. You got a lotof writers who got a lot of fucking
nasty taste in their mouth when itcomes to former players who even if there

(01:25:30):
was a gun and a dick pointedat their head, they would never fucking
vote for. Barry Bonds is one, Roger Clemens is another. Do I
need to go on? I mean, basically, anybody who was a dick
to the press gets the ship treatmentin the You better have been that fucking
good. And apparently we've we've decidedin in MLB in a Baseball Hall of

(01:25:54):
Fame. Excuse me, now,MLB Baseball Hall of fame. That if
even if you haven't been proved tohave you peds, but you're highly suspected
even though you've never been convicted oradmitted to it, that's good enough to
keep you out too positive, Andit's just the way it is, dude,
it's the bottom line. If youwant exactly that's exactly what I'm saying.

(01:26:16):
Call it. You got the deadball era, you got the pictures
era, you got the steroid era. Name it what it is. Move
the fuck on. And people canargue there's fifth fear that getting all this
bullshit. I'm not arguing with them, and that includes either of you,
because it's just the way it fuckingis, man, and we have no

(01:26:36):
control over it. Now. Ifwe want to talk about how it should
be changed, good solution, ifwe want to present it. But I
can't say here for two hours andgo over this again with the fucking Hall
of Fame. It's shit. Idon't even the Hall of Fame don't even
mean nothing to me anymore for anysport. I don't care because there's so
many people that get left out,overlooked for bullshit reasons and politics did Kurt

(01:27:00):
Schilling, It will never be inthe Hall of Fame because he votes Republican.
Get the fuck out of my face, man bleeding off the ankle while
playing in the World Series pitching lightsout. They took a surgical a surgical
staple that's supposed to be inside yourbody, and stapled his tendon to his
fucking bone and he went out andpitched on it twice. I got come

(01:27:27):
on my tee lights out, teetheenthat sentence, I mean, and dude
exactly. And he went out therelike that twice and won a World fucking
Series. Okay, on top ofthat, one of the most dominant pitchers
of the of the of the ofthe two thousands, he wanted, does
everybody forget the one two punch ofthe Arizona Diamondbacks of Randy Johnson and Kurt

(01:27:51):
Schilling. Randy Johnson and Kurt Schilling. Oh, I do not know what's
fucked up. Kurt Chilling socket isin the Baseball Hall of Fame, but
he isn't. MH. Hope believeme. Then that's what I'm saying.
This is this is why I cansit here and I can do this show,
and we can have fucking arguments ofship because we can have arguments to

(01:28:13):
call each other cocksuckers, tell eachother shut up. But at the end
of the day, I'm not angryat either YouTube because it's about fucking sports
and your opinion on sports does notaffect my life. But last thing,
I want to ask you about theHall of Fame, Rich because you are
a half assman and Chris, thisyear's Hall of Fame definitely had a couple

(01:28:34):
of good inductions. However, oneof them obviously is the number one Kobe
Bryant, obviously, no doubt aboutit, deserves you should have, you
know, half the ownership of it. That being said, Michael Jordan walked
up Kobe Bryant's widow to do theinduction speech. I just couldn't help think

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Shack should be there. Okay,I get Michael Jordan, the comparisons between
him and Kobe. YadA, YadA, YadA. Yeah, if there's bad
blood between him, man, that'sThey did not recalled. They did not
part on the greatest of turn.Don't you remember how how's my ass taste?
Don't you remember that? Yeah?They did do. They did do
a reunion. They did make up. I saw it on a thirty for

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thirty and and not for nothing.You can have a falling out with somebody
and still be friends. I betyou that shit was just probably for the
camera. I still think Shack shouldhave been there. Yeah, on the
left side you have Mike, buton the right side, Shack should have
been there. Shack probably had acommercial to shoot. Okay, Well,

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first of all, let's be honest, year an endorsement. The minute Kobe
died, you knew his Hall ofFame speech was going to be his wife
period in the story, because hedidn't just die, she lost her her
child along with her husband. Okay, Oh yeah, I have no problem
with his wife doing the induction,but I'm saying, to be walking up

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on stage, why not have Shackand Mike because she didn't want him up
there obviously, dude, or elsehe'd come up there. If she'd got
up there on that mike and saidShack and if Shaq was wasn't in the
audience, then maybe there's more tothis story than I know. But if
he I'm I'm pretty sure he's probablyin the audience. Right. He's in
the Hall of Fame, right,I mean, how many fucking living in
Hall of Famers don't show up fora Hall of Fame ceremony, even if

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they're not being inducted. That's whatI'm pointing out. If she said,
Shack, I wants you to comeup here and say a few words,
I guarantee you he would have.She didn't, and the story dude,
now he wants to hear him play? What if I wish I ain't got
time for it. I don't care, like dude, these are these are
These are narcissists and athletes and mostlikely probably some of the biggest assholes we

(01:30:55):
would have ever meet in real lifeif we met them, and that's what
makes them that being an athlete andthat competitive. Dude, do you need
any more proof than that Michael Jordandocumentary from last year about how pettiness and
bullshit fuels a lot of these guys. Let's be honest here, Michael Jordan's
walking around taking everything personally and stillred asked and butt hurt about his high

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school coach and the man's what fiftysomething, arguably the greatest player to ever
fucking play the game, and he'sstill walking around but hurt, still mad
about something that happened when he's fourteen. Yeah, by the way, Shack
was at the ceremony. And he'sbeen in the Hall of Fame for six
years. And let me tell yousomething. I do remember Shack having a
few little hot takes after he leftthe Lakers on the whole Kobe rape accusation

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situation, which I'm pretty sure hiswife ain't ain't a big fan of him
for. So there's the answer toyour question. Okay, it doesn't matter
what should happen, it's what didhappen. It Shack didn't play with him
his whole career. Shack resisted forfive years five six years before Kobe.
Let's be honest here, and thisin the middle of SHA's career. Kobe

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fans and Shack fans hate when Isay this, but let's be honest.
Their most successful times is when theywere playing together for both of them period
and the start yep uh. Thetitles. How many fucking titles did they
win set without each other? Kobeone one and Shack one two? Hyeah?
If they won the both of theirtitles together, four in a row

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together, what was that? Oror four together with the Lakers? Yeah?
But the thing, remember, thething is is with Shack. I'll
say Kobe, it was the besttime of his career. But with Shack,
he was just as good with dWade as he was with I got
you on that, man. Butyou gotta understand is that he didn't win
as many fucking championships. And that'sat the end of the day, that's
what the fucking is based on.He didn't win four with d Wade,

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he only won two. See thatif if if I'm if, I'm a
fucking a general manager or a coach, and I set a player down and
he's talking about individual season awards andwhat he did and he was, you
know, voted most valuable player byhis team, But I ain't hearing shit

(01:33:12):
about his fucking championships. Kick Crocks, bro, I'm done with you.
You can't bring me to the PromisedLand. It's all it's all talk.
It's all about you. It's allabout getting your ash paid and your ash
in the fucking headlines. It ain'tabout the fucking team. Think what you
want about lebron Ice when he getsuh, I'm sorry I brought him up.
But when he gets a bug uphis ass and wants to go to

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a new team, his new teamis able to go. Well, you've
got one two, I mean,you know, he comes with the hardware
in the finals. All right,don't go there. Well, I mean
okay, for okay, whatever,let's move on to three of which,
by the way, I think heset of records on the show for the

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amount of time we spent on basketball. Well, we're gonna spend a little
bit more because I do because there'sa couple of people in here that were
inducted that. I'm like, huh, all right, Rich Alderman, he's
a coach. Don't know him,okay, Chris Bosh, Yeah, I
mean he's that's the borderline, right. I think his rings are getting them
in. I mean, Paul Peers, same thing. I think that the

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rings. I think the championships aregetting them in. Well, the championship
one, no, no, no, no. All here is because of
the Big three he started that thatwas the big first Big three weeks.
Yeah, I'm sorry the middle ofmy sentence interrupted the beginning of yours,
and that you had to steal whatI was going to say. I'm sorry.

(01:34:39):
Is there anything else I can dofor you? Princess Jesus Christ?
Do you want to interrupt me?How about you just how about you just
crawling my head? And just explainto tell all my thoughts today. Jesus,
do you ever cus he I think, here's a cup of tea.
You can bring that over. Yeah, I got your tea. I'm gonna
give it to you straight from thefucking source too, T bang, Yeah

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exactly. Bill Russell as a coach, I think that's a feat to being
in a player. As a coachin any sport, that's a big deal.
Well, I mean, and this, let's be honest, this matters
a lot now. He was thefirst NBA black coach or first black NBA
head coach. Yeah, that's abig deal. That's a big deal in
the historical context, and it youknow right there boom. Let's be honest.

(01:35:24):
It's the same reason Tony Dungee isgonna if he ain't in the Hall
of Fame, he's gonna be inthe Hall of Fame as a coach because
he was the first black coach inthe NFL to win a championship. So,
I mean, and on top ofthat, he's Tony fucking Dungee and
he has the career he has.He was a part of the Super Bowl
where no matter who won, itwas going to be the first black coach
to win. Yeah, him andLovely Smith yep um, Ben Wallace covered,

(01:35:47):
Weber covered, Jay Wright coach.I don't even know. Yeah,
it looks I'm sitting here, okayright as a two time Naysmith National Coach
of the Year, two and sixsixteen, six time Big East Conference Coach
of the Year. Looks to beonce again this approving. My point is,
Saint the NBA Hall of Fame's no, he's you know, no,

(01:36:10):
he's I don't think so. Heldhe was in he led Villanova two national
championships twenty sixteen, two eighteen,something like, he's a good college coach.
Okay. So, and then youhave the Women's Committee and the Women's
Committee because apparently we yawn by everythingup by gender and where you're from according
to the NBA or according to theHall of Fame. Two people we've never

(01:36:34):
fucking heard of, Yolanda Griffin andLauren Jackson. No idea snore. And
then they have the Contributor Committee orContributor Committee, which I think this is
probably writers and stuff or people thatyou know, movers and shakers. I
don't know any of these names.Cotton fitz Simmons. That sounds like something

(01:36:55):
Cotton fitz Simmons sounds like a nineteeneighteen baseball player. That sounds like someone
who should be canceled. Howard garfuncleArt Arts Uncle Okay, Uncle Val Ackerman.
I guess because she's ah. Shewas a female executive, and she
pioneered some shit. I don't know. I don't I'm just scaring her thing.

(01:37:17):
Give you copyright for sound effects?Right? Hold on, I don't
think so all right? Can canhold on? Let me find it?
Just talk find yep. I gotit, all right, So and then
that's the contributor that group. Andthen she once again, I said,
they break it up until very weirdshit. Early African American Pioneers Committee District

(01:37:41):
elect Oh Jesus Christ did just saythe ABA. Clarence Fat Jenkins recognized posthumously.
Jenkins was a two sport professional Ithink most baseball and basketball in the
twenties and thirties when both sports wereracially segregated. A native of New York
City, he played basketball for SaintChristopher's Club youth team and then for the
first teams who were named Colored BasketballWorld's Champions in nineteen seventeen, eighteen and

(01:38:04):
nineteen whoa whoa colored basketball these peopleknow you can ever heard of that?
I mean, granted it's from onehundred years ago, but I've never heard
I've heard the negro Leagues for baseball. I've never heard the Colored Basketball League.
I've never heard that used in fortyfour years of life. The Colored
Basketball World Championship. I mean theway, dude, we don't shy away

(01:38:29):
from the Negro Leagues. We talkabout how they got fucking the shaft historically
because there's a lot of white players. It probably wouldn't be in the Hall
of Fame if they were playing againstBob Gibson or Josh Gibson and Satchel Page,
you know what I'm saying. Sowhatever. And then here's the last
one, the International Committee District.They elected Tony Ko coach as a player.

(01:38:50):
Wait, you can get in andthe oh, it's just because he's
not from here in the International Basket, so they'll get in. That's the
ballet's getting. Yeah, if youbasically if you're from North America, that's
one. That's one group. Andthen Contributors Women's Committee, Early African American

(01:39:10):
Pioneers, International Committee, and there'sprobably more committees. We don't even know
about, because I mean, comeon, dude, if they got an
you know, Early African American,you know, Pioneers committee, there's probably
like, you know, Latino Committeeand Yao Ming or whatever, are wuna
be an Asian committee or some shit. I don't understand breaking it up like

(01:39:30):
that. Why can't you just announcewho the fuck is in? But anyways,
last two veterans, which I guessmakes sense. You can have a
veterans committee because if if they don'tget in, well, veterans are,
you've been in, you've been eligible, then your eligibility runs out and then
so I guess at that point,the Veterans Committee puts you into the Hall

(01:39:53):
of Fame instead of it going tothe writers and and shit like that.
Baseball do the same thing. Ifthe writers can put you in, then
the veterans will or something like that. Yeah, that's why Trammell and Jack
Morris are in now because for yearsand year, for decades, man,
there was nobody from the eighty fourTigers team in the Hall of Fame except
for Sparky Anderson, and he wentin as a Red. He didn't go

(01:40:15):
in as a Tiger. So Imean, like you know, I think
you get ten fifteen years somewhere oneof those two somewhere between there. Maybe
in baseball and in the Veterans Committeehas to put you in. So maybe
that's how Schilling gets in. Iis there going to be that much of
a glacial political shift back to theto rationality and like compromise in our lifetime

(01:40:40):
because I don't see. I thinkwe're on the pendulum, dude. We're
on the pendulum fucking situation. Dude. We're gonna swing from one extreme to
the other and keep doing that,and we're just gonna wave as we passed
the middle in reason and logic.We're gonna wave at it and go,
who wish we could stop? Butwe gotta go over here now. Yeah,

(01:41:01):
I mean, it's just whatever.And in Women's Veteran Committee, Pearl
Moore, I'm going to read allof her entry because this has to be
great. I have no idea whatit's gonna say. Veterans Committee, Women's
Veterans Committee, Pearl Moore. Shewas a player, a four time ai
aw Small College All American from seventyfive to seventy nine at Francis Marion College.

(01:41:26):
More scored four thousand and sixty onepoints, making her the women's college
basketball all time leader in points scored. She averaged thirty points a game and
scored in double figures in a onehundred and twenty seven college games she played
in. In seventy nine, Morewas named a women American Woman Sports Foundation
Small College Player of the Year,South Carolina, AIAW Player of the Year,
and South Carolina Amateur Athlete of theYear. As a pro, she

(01:41:50):
played two seasons in the WBL.Wait a minute, time out, What
COULDET stand for Women's Basketball League?When that's where I was heading? Okay?
As a pro, she played twoseasons in a w BL and was
named an All Star in nineteen eightyone. Wait a minute, We had
a women's basketball league in the lateseventies and early eighties that already fucking was

(01:42:12):
shuttered, and then we started oneup that's being kept the float by the
NBA two and a half decades laterbecause of equality. And you wonder why
I don't watch this shit sport.And then the last part is she was
an inshrine in the South Carolina AthleticHall of Fame in two thousand. I
mean, I sounds like, yeah, she was a fucking she was a

(01:42:34):
baller, male or female. Imean, obviously, I don't know with
competition she's playing against. I've neverheard of the WBL. But that's not
shocking because I'm not that bunch ofan NBA or basketball historian. But hey,
Chris, who is that? Who'sthat? None from Loyola Chicago,
Sister Jean, Sister Jean. Yeah, so she should be M two right,

(01:42:57):
Basketball Hall of Fame, the bestfam ever or whatever she did.
There's not a fan division. Shedidn't play, there's ever God damn it.
Uh shit, I won't be aliveto see it, you guys,
might I think you all should putsome some money down on whether or not,
before you guys die, there isa fan elected to the Hall of

(01:43:21):
Fame for some bullshit, right,whether they be like you know it was
like you know, oh well thiswas he was a super fan and he
had like down syndrome and he diedyoung, and we're gonna elect him.
You know, I guarantee you someshit like that, whether it be honorary
or full membership, will happen beforeyou wanted you to die or Hall of

(01:43:43):
Fames. Just go away, becausewe're gonna make the other players who didn't
make the Hall of Fame feel badwe were doing that. There's already well,
there's already literally, I mean that'sthe ball's already rolling. No,
I with rich though, I'm gonnaput money on that. That's what I'll
put money end. There's gonna bea participation league in the Hall of Fame.

(01:44:08):
Is the three sixteen guy gonna getin post posthumous, posthumous whatever after
he dies? No, because hewas he was a murderer in real life
and died in prison time out onyour ship. Because I'm gonna call you
on this, Um, you'll losethat bet. Earl reword what you just
said. It will never be calleda participation win. Participation will never be

(01:44:30):
brought up. They will reword itand Orwellian double speak it into something that's
socially acceptable at least for the nextfive years until we have our next revolution
and now everything everything five years agothat was acceptable is unacceptable now. But
you're you'll lose. It won't bea participation win. I'm with you,

(01:44:50):
But if you stick by that,you'll lose that bet, because dude,
that would be admitting that they're thatthey're fucking they're pussies that anybody can get
in. They can't have that.It still has the Hall of Fames,
have to have the air of exclusiveinclusivity, even if it's not true.
Well, why do you think Facebookbecame as big as it did because originally

(01:45:11):
you had to have a dot eduemail addressed to even look at Facebook to
sign up for Facebook. Yeah.The first time I heard about Facebook,
the girl I was dating at thetime showed me it. She was going
to Oakland. She's like, I'mlike, what is it? Facebook?
Like, what the fuck is that? Oh? It's a college kid network
thing. And then like two yearslater Facebook decided to be like, hey,
everyone should have it, and thennow we're here. Yeah, great

(01:45:36):
idea. I mean to be honestwith you, if I could go back
and blow up and destroy one's pieceof social media, it wouldn't be Facebook,
it'd be Twitter. Get Mark Zuckerbergand Jack Dorsey in a room and
just kill them before they can evendo the damage. Yeah, by the
time machine, I wouldn't go backand kill Hitler. I go back and
get Zuckerberg and Dorsey in a roomtogether and kill both of them. Put

(01:46:00):
a gun in there, put onebullet the chamber and locked the door.
No, they both got to die. They both gotta die. No no,
no, no, no, nono no no. I'm gonna have
fun. I'm gonna do some sauceshit. Okay, okay, when you
all got to kill each other,And when he finally kills the other one,
the door opens and I'm standing therewith a gun. Go, hey,
the enemy of my enemy. Hejust died. Second boom, blow

(01:46:23):
his head off. Hey, nowyou're a murderer and you just got the
death sentence. Boom. Yeah.But then I hoped back in my time
machine and going to where the staff. I'm like, I'm like demolition man.
I'm gonna wait for the for themurder beef statue of limitations to people,
I'm gonna get frozen. What thesenights gonna break out? The year

(01:46:46):
three thousand? Run this ship.The good news is to take out Zuckerberg,
you also take out Instagram, becauseFacebook Instagram, you take out quite
a bit Facebook. I did adeep dive just through pure fucker neck the
other night, and I got stuckin the fucking hole going down about corporations
that own other corporations and how thisis like it's it's not hidden from the

(01:47:09):
public, but they don't advertise it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you have to go digging for it. And Facebook owns a lot of
shit. They were, they weresmart and the fact is when they saw
their relevance waning a little bit,they started buying up all the ship that
was going to be the next topshit. That's the smart thing. The
smart things they did. Sports youQuestoper media dot Net qustoper medior dot at

(01:47:31):
sports you well, yeah, Imean, it's let's be honest here,
it's it's it's like anything else.I mean if okay, as much as
we bitch and and talk about howsports has gotten soft and it's pussy and
it has, I mean, I'lljust be honest. I've yet to see

(01:47:53):
anybody who's younger than me that Ishow old sports games too and say this
is what I grew up watching,and this is the bullshit you watch.
We ain't the same. It's justwe're not period. And they're like,
oh my god. They allow themto get away with that. I'm like,
yeah, in fact, that waspart of the game, beating the
shit out of the guy trying toget to the fucking hole you don't come

(01:48:15):
into paint because you ain't walking outof it. If you fucking walk into
it, you're gonna have to getup off the ground because we're gonna put
your ass on the ground with ahard fall. You post up in front
of my goal for that part,absolutely, you post up in front of
my goalie. I'm gonna cross checkyou in the back of the fucking neck.
I'm gonna slash you between where you'refucking your your your your gloves and

(01:48:36):
your fucking elbow pads are. Andif I break your fucking arm. Good.
You won't post up in front ofmy fucking goalie again, will you.
That was the game back in theday. I mean even in the
last ten years, you can't evenrun over a fucking catcher coming in the
home plate anymore. Like you showthat to someone who's in there, like

(01:48:56):
early twenties and they're like, youcan run over the catch, oh my
god, And I'm like, yeah, he's got a bunch of pets on
he can take it. Yeah.It's like, haven't you ever seen the
fucking the Infamous All Star Game?No, no, no, the Infamous
All Star Game where Pete Rose ranover the fucking catcher in an All Star
game. Like that's that's how seriousthey took an All Star game back then.

(01:49:21):
We had to in the two thousands, we had to suspend an All
Star game because we didn't want touse pictures for longer than one or two
innings each because we didn't want towear them out. Whereas thirty years ago,
Uh, you were expected to finishevery game you started. Yeah,
like a relief pitcher was for aspecial situation or an injury. When when

(01:49:45):
I was a little kid, absolutely, do you know how you got a
save back in the day, youpitched three innings. Now a save as
get three outs in the ninth inning. That's it. Like Mike Henneman was,
you know, the Tiger's closure whohad to most saves and he ain't.
He ain't had shit compared to anybodyfrom the fucking modern day. Once
we started having specialists come out ofthe bullpen, I mean, dude,

(01:50:08):
think about it. You get twentyfive minute you got you got, you
got five fucking or you have twentyfive people on a baseball roster. You
got five fucking starting pitchers in yourrotation, So you're down to twenty.
You need to field nine people.Okay, now we're up to fourteen,
all right, so that gives youeleven fucking spots to play with. Back

(01:50:29):
in the day, that bullpen wasn'tfucking fifteen or you know, eight nine,
ten people deep. More people wereon the bench in the dugout that
we're waiting in the bullpen to becalled in. And just like you said,
it was very much a specialist situation. Lefty on lefty injury, unexpected
something, come in and finish thegame. And once again, if you

(01:50:49):
came in, you were expected tofinish the fucking game. There was on
this bullshit to come in, seeone pitcher and he go said, or
see one batter and go sit down. That was not It's not how baseball
worked different than that these days.I'm just thinking about it, like,
didn't they make the new rule thatif a pitcher comes because they were they
were doing that shit so much.Teams were using it as a way to

(01:51:11):
throw throw guys off, like switchingpitchers every batter. The Yankees used to
be notorious for doing that. That'swhy any fucking Yankees game took three and
a half four hours to play.Yeah, but I mean every sport,
every single sport has that, hockey, baseball, basketball. Look, I
get it, man, if you'retrying to fucking get the most out of
your athletes that you're paying a premiumdollar to get out there and play,

(01:51:35):
you don't want them going out thereand walking into a fucking buzz saw of
a situation. I understand that.I understand trying to make the game safer
from dirty hits and dirty plays andshit like that. But playing hard or
playing tough defense that's not dirty.But it is now. But of course,
we just spent an hour talking abouthow we're through the looking glass and

(01:51:57):
cops are criminals and criminals are fuckingsae. So apparently, I dude,
I my buddy's got a fourteen yearold to play fucking football. His team
went undefeated last season. I'm like, bro, I gotta go to one
of your games. I want tosee how this fucking high school football is
because it can't be like what Iremember. It's got to be even more

(01:52:19):
pussy and soft than the NFL is. Now. Everyone's wearing flags something.
I mean, it has to be, dude, there's no way. There's
no way even the ship you weregetting away with playing fucking for are you
in high school or Oh, there'sno way you're getting away with that these
days. Yeah. No, Wellthis kind of would pivot nicely into what

(01:52:39):
you wanted to talk about with Ibelieve his name is Tom Wilson. Oh
yeah, yeah. The NHL.Either depending on what era of the NHL
you fucking like the most. Eitherhe's a throwback to a better time or
he's the most fucking evil man inthe NHL because he plays like a fucking
power forward from thirty years ago.And he's one of those guys that you

(01:53:00):
rarely hear this in the h Lanymore. If he's playing against your team,
you hate him, but if he'son your team, you love him.
So basically put him in with guyslike you know, I don't know
Rick Tockett, you know, powerforward. Maybe because he's six four,
he's two twenty. He's got speed. He can he can even though the
league is going smaller and faster,he can keep up with the smaller,

(01:53:24):
faster guys. Plus he has thesize. Plus he has that physical edge
to his game, which is kindof paying at a target on him.
But I will say this, hehas to be self aware to understand he's
not playing thirty years ago, andhe does shit like this incident with the
Rangers where you know, a scrumstarts by the goalie net. He starts

(01:53:47):
cross checking people in the fucking inthe head who are on the ice,
grabs a player from the Rangers,rips off his helmet, grabs him by
the hair, and tries to drivehis head into the fucking you know on
the ground. Now what I meanthat's uh, no, you gotta you
gotta go, bro. I'm notbig on suspension, but that could kill

(01:54:09):
that guy. Both of those thingscould kill those people. Yeah, this
guy's gonna cut some charges. Imean the things you described like, man,
you do that, I'm not ahockey drink, you will get arrested.
And by the way, it's there'sprecedent for it. Marty mcsorley's stick
swinging incident on Burshier, uh ToddBERTUZI whatever. He has had a cross

(01:54:33):
back the back of the name.No, he punched him in the back
of the head and the guy wentdown broke his neck. Like go watch
that play. Yeah, it lookslike he got sucker punched because he did.
And he went down in a heap. Because that's usually what happens when
you get sucker punched and you're notprepared for one. But his neck was
broken. What were you thinking aboutit? Wasn't there a Bertuzzi incident where

(01:54:57):
there was a skate and a throatinvolved, Like, that's the one where
I can't know that's that's the that'sthe goalie that was I forget his name.
He was playing for the Sabers,and yeah, that's what made him
start wearing throat protectors and shit,because they once again I can't even talk
about it, they didn't have it. Yeah, if it wasn't for the
fact, if it wasn't for thefact that the trainer knew exactly where to

(01:55:20):
put pressure, he'd have been deadon that ice. He was because it
hit an artery. He was itwas I remember clearly blood was shooting out
feet away from him from his neck. It was like someone was squirting it
out of a bottle. Like youever seen those horror movies and someone get
start head cuts off and blood squirtsout, and you go, that's bullshit.
I'm starting to think it's not startingto think it's probably what it looks

(01:55:43):
like when you get you that cutoff. Oh, I know, I
brought it up, but I'm gettinglight at it. Oh well, anyways,
so Tom Wilson, you know heTom Wilson does Tom Wilson shit,
and you know he plays for fuckingWashington, Washington, New York, and
they're not fans of each other asis. So the league steps in.
He gets, you know, hegot I think he got a total seventeen

(01:56:06):
penalty minutes, which is five forfighting you know, I don't know who
he fought, two for instigating orroughing, and ten minute game misconduct,
which gets you thrown out the fuckinghead. It gives you the gate for
the night and a five thousand dollarsfine the Rangers. In my mind,
here's the Let me back up asecond. I'm a preface everything I'm about

(01:56:28):
to say with this. I don'tlike the way the game is officiated and
the rules are that are enforced inhockey these days. I think it's made
the game less entertaining. It's madethe game to where you have a bunch
of prima donnas out there skating aroundlike fucking like like like figure skaters,
afraid to touch each other, andthere's no excuse for it. You can

(01:56:49):
say, well, it helps scoringit doesn't. Look at the eighties,
look at the heyday of Gretzky,well mute, they were fucking play having
to play again, Skuys like BobProbert, Joey Coo, Sir Jeff Boo,
Ka Boom Ken Daniko, those motherfuckers. You weren't getting by them.

(01:57:10):
Yeah, you weren't getting by themwithout a fucking fight, literally in figuratively.
And so you know, the Rangersin my mind are like, if
this is the set of rules thatyou have made for the NHL and set
him down for the rest of theseason because we lost one of our best
players for the rest of the seasonbecause of his bullshit. Did they all
know oh yeah, oh yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah he's in the

(01:57:31):
playoffs right now. Tom Wilson isin the playoffs, in the lineup right
now. So that's what that's probablywhy they're mad. Like in Game two
is tonight. I believe Game twobetween Boston and uh Washington, Washington won
and overtime I believe in game one, so yeah, oh oh yeah,
And they're like, this is bullshit, this is selective enforcement of rules.

(01:57:55):
And they're like, well, fivethousands of the maximum amount of fine,
Okay, Well, they suspend hisass. He was trying to cause grievous
bodily harm to anybody in a uniformopposite, it wasn't his okay. That
in today's NHL is a huge nogo. Well, if that's your rules,

(01:58:15):
enforce your rules the same across theboard, or just admit you want
to be the NBA Part two orNBA version two point zero where there's and
we've already covered this for years andyears, but here's another example of it.
If he'd have done that to Crosby, if he'd have done that to
Austin Matthews, if he'd have donethat to Jack Eichel, his ass would

(01:58:35):
be fucking suspended the rest of theseason. Connor McDavid, I mean,
dude, And they spoke out andNHL goes, oh, well, I
hope it was worth it, becausenow your entire organization is find a quarter
million dollars and I'm just like,why am I supporting this sport anymore?
They can't even be fucking they can'tbe consistent on their own bullshit arbitrary rules.

(01:58:59):
Gary Bettman of the Commissioner are likealmost thirty years what was he like
eighty? I just gotta be.I mean, look, I hate Gary
Betman as a commissioner, as ahuman being. I don't want to see
him dead, but I wish he'dget, like, you know, some
sort of health issue to take himout of the commissioners spot. But I
almost am terrified for what would comenext, because it's only gonna get worse.
They're not going to bring in anold school commissioner. And if anything,

(01:59:23):
the fact that the NHL under Bettmanput Brendan Shanahan in charge of the
NHL's discipline department, I'm like,did you never see Brendan Shanahan play?
Gary Beatman is sixty eight years old, He's been commissioner since he was forty
one or forty God damn, yeah, yeah, I said, you get

(01:59:49):
that in every sport, even NASCAR. Dude, the biggest name in NASCAR
that you could think of is DaleEarnhardt, Dirty Dale, the intimidmidator that
was of that. If, yeah, exactly, if he'd race today,
he would be thrown off the trackand never allowed to race again. He
would never meet it to the fuckingto NASCAR. He'd be sitting in some

(02:00:11):
dirt track somewhere. You know whatI'm saying with the rest of good old
boys and shit, because they wouldn'tlet them. They wouldn't let them.
I mean, dude, to daysof getting loose, getting under a getting
loose, put him in the wall. That's all gone well. I mean,
my point is is that Gary Bettmanputs fucking Brendan Shanahan in charge of
player discipline, and Brendan Shanahan,who was a power forward who by today's

(02:00:32):
standards was a dirty player because heplayed hard completely fucking just turns into the
biggest cuck I've ever seen for fuckingBatman, and it just starts fucking co
signing on everything Batman saying. AndI'm just sitting there like, how the
fuck could you do that? Dude? You are an old school hockey player
who played during the periods we're talkingabout, played against the greatest players to

(02:00:56):
ever before and since. Get onthe ice and you played hard, and
all of a sudden they throw youthe NBA or the NHL throws you a
bone and you turn into a companyman along those lines. That's why I
have no hope for this fucking league. I really don't. When Batman goes
they're gonna they're gonna put some fuckingbullshit pussy ass motherfucker in there, who's

(02:01:19):
gonna still try to expect I guaranteeyou he's gonna take up the mantle that
Batman left for him. They're gonnakeep trying to expand this fucking sport into
areas that don't even have ice,Phoenix, Florida, the southwest of the
fucking country, Okay, and continueto water it down as far as you

(02:01:43):
know, the physical play to topussy it up, and it's gonna be
like, dude, I can youknow why I'm watching the playoffs this year
because Boston and Washington are playing eachother. That's the only series I have
any interest in so far, outof all the first round matchups. That's
it why because they hate each otherand I'm going to get to see some

(02:02:05):
good fucking physical hockey. It ain'tjust about winning, It's about beating your
fucking opponent completely because you hate them. And ultimately we can say all the
bullshit we want and say that,oh no, that's not right. No
one tunes out when the Eagles andthe Cowboys played in the nineties. No

(02:02:27):
one tuned out when the Red Wingsand Avalanche played in the nineties, no
one turned the TV off when theRed Wings and the Oilers played. In
the eighties, the broad Street Bullieswere drawn on the road simply because of
the reputation of being a hard nosefucking team. I mean it, there
it is, and so I'm justlike, Okay, great, wonderful.

(02:02:51):
So we've now arrived at a pointwhere rules are not only just selectively enforced,
and suspensions are well, I guess, do you like the guy,
then don't suspend him. Do younot like him, well, then fuck
him. Suspend them because I can'tthink of anything else because Tom Wilson has
a history of this ship. Andjust to be brutally honest here, if

(02:03:13):
Tom Wilson was playing thirty years ago, he probably one of my favorite players.
I mean, I liked what hebrings. I like the fact that
he's that much of a competitor.But you're not playing people who were on
your level anymore. And he's noteven thirty. Guys, I think he's
like twenty nine. He well,he might be thirty. He might Yeah,
he's gonna playing for a decade.He might be in his thirties now,
like early thirties. You know whatI'm saying like, and the guys

(02:03:35):
that are his his same aging younger, they're not used to playing against guys
like this. I mean his firstpractice with his minor league team, his
first shift of his first practice,this is what he did. He got
on the ice, he started throwingbody checks. He posted up in front
of the fucking goalie to screen forthe goalie for a fucking shot from the

(02:03:57):
point. He had a shot ongoal. This is all one shift.
One shift. His first shift,by the way, had a shot on
goal and a fight when he gotout of the fucking penalty box and skated
back to the bench. Even theguy he thought was like, that's a
motherfucker I want to go into battlewith because he goes this is fucking practice
and he's out there playing like it'sGame seven, triple overtime. That's the

(02:04:18):
motherfucker that fires up your team.That's the motherfucker that goes out there when
he sees you playing on a Wednesdaynight on you know, your second of
back to back to back games andyou're fucking dragging ass. He goes out
there and fucking throws a couple ofbig body checks, makes a couple of
big, fucking physical plays and getsyou fired, gets a team fired up

(02:04:39):
to go out there and win thegoddamn game. But that's the place for
those type of players in the NHLis minuscule compared to what it was.
And he's a throwing back to atime it doesn't exist anymore. And I,
you know, I don't want Likeif if the NHL's discipline was across
the board the same, no matterwho, I wouldn't have as much a

(02:05:00):
problem with it. I might havea problem with how long they can fucking
you know, suspend someone or howmuch they can find them find them,
but ultimate I wouldn't have a problemwith it. But this dude, he
goes out there, he does thisshit, He gets a five thousand dollars
fine thrown out the game. Theteam that he was viciously attacking, they
come out and say this is somebullshit and they get fined a quarter million

(02:05:21):
dollars. I mean, do weneed any more proof that we live in
a world where people think words aremore harmful than a punch, Right,
That's all you need to know aboutthere. Like, So I guess I
guess I could if I wanted to, I could go out with a hockey
stick and two hands and one upsidetheir fucking head, get a five thousand

(02:05:43):
dollars fine, maybe sit in jailfor the weekend. Right, as long
as I don't call him an asshole, why I do it or else then
I got to do twenty five yearsand pound you in the ass federal prison
now because now he can't use Ifyou use the racial slur, you're in
trouble at that point. Call hima bundle of sticks makes sense, you're
holding the hockey stick. I mean, it's it's it's it's the problem I'm

(02:06:04):
seeing with with well, the NHLhas a problem with consistency over this last
decade anyways, with the fact thatthey changed to overtime rules in the in
the beginning, like after the seasonit started. There's no reason too.
It wasn't like it was a rulethat was implemented because someone died on the
ice. They just thought, well, if we go three on three after
fucking you know, for five minutesafter regulation, that's a lot more open

(02:06:27):
ice, a lot more space roomsto make plays. They're going to score.
They didn't do it to protect anybody, but they act like they did.
And it's stay say and it's likeYou don't implement a rule in the
middle of a fucking season unless it'sbecause somebody was taking advantage of it and
like ending careers possibly lives of otherplayers with this loophole. I mean,

(02:06:49):
and then we all you've heard mebitch, you both of you have heard
me bitch enough about rules for theenot for me. When it comes to
fucking you know, miss miss Crosbyover there and fucking you know in penguin
Town, he can be. Hecould fucking dive all over the goddamn ice
like Greg glue gainis and fucking dirtyshop motherfucker's Like, there's no tomorrow,

(02:07:10):
and that's fine. He doesn't getsuspended, he doesn't get finedet a guy
with a reputation of being a hardnosed player does the exact same fucking thing.
He's fine, thrown out the game. And then okay, if he's
fine and thrown out the game,obviously the NHL thought he did something wrong.
If the team spoke up and said, hey, we think there should
be more of a of a punishmentfor what he did, and he turned

(02:07:31):
around and punished the team and saidthat five thousand verses two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars. I was told there'dbe no math. What is the what
is it like thirty times the finesomething like that, five thousand and a
quarter million. Oh yeah they're fifty. I think. Yeah, that is

(02:07:51):
ridiculous. That is ridiculous. Andthat makes me now want to watch this
ship. It really does, because, to be honest with you, the
sport ain't that interesting watching a bunchof fucking prima donna's out there who are
afraid to fucking hit or take ahit. It ain't. And then when
you when you do get a playerout there who does deliver a hit,
who does play old school, hardnosed hockey, he's demonized. Well here's

(02:08:16):
a throwback to blah blah blah,he's a Neanderthal on skates and dan this
and that you need to evolve withthe game and blah blah blah. And
so what do you want if youdon't want guys like this in the league.
If you if a guy like TomWilson and a player who plays like
Tom Wilson is an issue for youin the league, then ban their type
of play and get it over with, because you know that's where it's heading.

(02:08:37):
Just do it. Get it overwith, and the HL and the
NASCAR have that in common. That'sso bad. They want Garth from Wayne's
World. Excuse me, I'd liketo get by now before Oh no,
go ahead, No, no,no, go ahead, guy, Sorry,
I was just gonna pivot and doanother subject if you guys, yeah,

(02:08:58):
yeah, yeah, yeah, beforewe go. Uh. Marv Albert
rip Ian he was for He wasa big deal when we were kids until
he bit No that's our ips career, my bad. Yeah, you're right.
Might have been hit. Yeah,it might have been hitting a vaporizer

(02:09:20):
during the show. My Ralbert retiredtoday. He was a big deal when
we were kids until he bit theprostitute on the ass, the one who
was reported to look like Lawrence Taylorand drag Yes that one. Yeah.
Didn't he manage to salvage his career. I don't think he ever got back.
I mean, he was it whenwe were kids. As far as

(02:09:41):
sports broadcasters, I mean it waslike him and Maddie. NBA was Marv
Albert and College was Dick Vitel.Those were when he came to basketball growing
up. Those are the two guys. If I saw him, I was
like, I know, I don'twatch. Don't really care about sport,
but I know who the who thefuck they are and web sport they mostly

(02:10:03):
report on and do play by playon. But it seems like he felt
from grace after that. Oh no, he But here's my question, why,
right? What did you do?Was he married? And I think
that might have been part of it? There was a game? Well,
then he's a scumbag in relationships.And let's be honest, we've been fucking

(02:10:24):
punishing men and divorce for fucking ahundred years. Now do what you're gonna
fucking do family court and give allhis goddamn money to his useful sex wife
who brought nothing to the table butpussy, okay, and just call it
a fucking day. But they likehe was a trial. Remember there was
a trial about that shit. Ithink he was accused of sexual assault if

(02:10:48):
I'm remembering correctly, which if that'sthe case, I'm surprised that hasn't been
brought up in today's day and age. I'm really shocked that hasn't been brought
up. I'm gonna go with richon this one. And what the fuck
does his personal life have to dowith him saying from downtown or yeah,
calling a basketball team. Yeah right, Yeah. A trial came to a

(02:11:11):
halt. Albert pleaded guilty to misdemeanorassault and battery charges in exchange for dropping
a forcible sodomy charge. What's givena twelve month suspension, suspended sentence,
and was ordered to continue his dyingor his mental health counseling. No jail
time. Are you there? Yougo? So that's probably why I've on

(02:11:35):
sports pages. I've heard a lotabout him retiring after the Eastern Conference finals,
but I'm thinking the closer we getto retirement, the more we're going
to start hearing the opposition ramp up, especially if anybody sports you know,
ESPN or Fox spool there's no moreFox Sports or whatever the fuck they're calling

(02:11:56):
a Bally sports or whatever. Ifsomeone tries to do some of like retrospective,
I guarantee there's gonna be a callfor a fucking boycott and hashtag me
too, Albert or whatever the fuck. You know what I'm saying, And
it's like, that's what. Honestly, I'm shocked, to be brutally honest,
I didn't even know he was stillfucking announcing. I had no idea

(02:12:18):
I knew he mean he's back,but yeah, isn't he like on T
and T. Like I said,he was the pinnacle and now he is
definitely just he was probably happy tojust still be at the party. He's
the Brian Wilson of NBA announcers.He fucked up Brian will will Williams mean
Williams Williams when I say Brian Wilson, Yeah, yeah, not the beach

(02:12:41):
boy. Um. Yeah, he'sthe Brian Williams of the NBA. He
fucked up pretty bad, but notenough to get booted out of that exclusive
club. But there's definitely a glassceiling and he was going to hit his
head on for the rest of hisfucking career, you know what I'm saying,
Because if you look at it,I think I was. I was
into retrospect him. I believe theysaid that he started off covering all sports

(02:13:05):
and eventually all he could cover wasthe NBA for whatever reason, which to
me sounds like he kind of got, you know, unofficially blacklisted at a
certain point. I don't know,Like I said, I don't know much
about him in his situation that sadly, most of what I learned about his
trial was through Dennis Leary on lockingloads. So that's about it. He

(02:13:30):
gave the two pay a trim.It's a two page trim to pay fits
you must to quit, you know. I'm like trims their two pay here,
you just get a new one.The fuck right? But yeah,
I mean well, but once againall bullshit, all that bullshit decide.
I mean, this is here wego, this is proof. Uh,

(02:13:50):
this is someone we grew up watchingon TV. And he wasn't an old
man when we were kids. He'san old man now. And you know
this is this is the old guardwaving bye bye because Dick Vitale has done
after he was He's done now,isn't he. I thought this one wasn't
last season, his last season doingNCAA basketball. Maybe sure, I swore

(02:14:11):
I heard something about Dick vitals retired. I thought he was dead. He's
not dead. Have you heard aboutthe hold on? No, he's not
dead. He's eighty one. He'sclose. Yeah. Yeah, I'm I'm
sitting here looking at uh, excuseme, his uh his ship here and

(02:14:31):
kind of looks like, let's see. He has signed with ESPN through the
twenty twenty one twenty twenty two collegebasketball season. Okay, so next year,
See, I knew that, Iknew I had heard something about at
least his contract or something was up. Oh I didn't know this. I
should have. I guess, wellwhy should I was two. He was
the announcer for the Pistons seventy eightseventy nine. Yeah, I always knew

(02:14:52):
he had he had had some kindof Detroit connection. Oh no, he
was a coach at Detroit. Hewas the coach of Yeah, that's what
it was. Okay, okay,all right, Like there's always been a
lot of love for him around here. Yeah. He coached at uf D
from seventy three to seventy seven andseventy eight to seventy nine to Pistons,

(02:15:15):
Rutgers before you a d and twohigh schools before that. So okay,
all right, fair enough, Sothe Pistons were his only pro team.
Yeah, but yeah, I dude, this is to me, this is
like, this is like when SparkyAnderson and uh uh shit, uh fuck

(02:15:35):
bo Schembechler or I'm trying to thinkof some announcers, like some other announcers
that are that are up there,like you know, when he when he
died or retired it was like,Wow, time standing still for no one
for real, Because think about it, dude, we're probably gonna see fucking
uh oh shit, brain fart.What's his face? Joe Buck. We're

(02:15:58):
probably gonna see Joe Buck retire inour lifetimes. Oh for sure, you
know what I'm saying. And Iremember when he was like the fresh faced
guy he was. He was Buck'skid, yeah exactly. No one called
him Joe Buck. He was yourJack Buck's kid. Now. For me,
though, that what made me feelwell. A lot of things make
me feel old nowadays, but thethe NBA Hall of Fame ceremony, like

(02:16:20):
a lot of those motherfuckers were playingwhen I was an adult, the one
that went in yes from Tim DuncanKobe Bryant, like damn, you're you're
already old enough? Oh oh whatever, I'm forty two, dude, I
fucking was looking at By the way, I just want to apologize because apparently,

(02:16:43):
for five fucking years in this show, I've been saying this man's name
the wrong way. My defense isI was talking to a person from Europe
about him the first time I heardabout Apparently it's not in Europe they don't
call words with Z. They don'tpronounce z z. They pronounced z for
whatever reason. And he Zadano Chara. I thought he was saying Zdano,

(02:17:07):
Chara, z Dano. It's apparentlyit's Zdeno, not Zdano. So I've
been I've been saying a man's name. Well, you're canceled for you.
Yeah, I know. But yeah, dude, I remember ninety seven picking
up a hockey news and it washim and Ziggy Palfy on it. When
when he was drafted by the fuckinguh the Islanders, when they had the

(02:17:31):
Gordon's Fisherman fucking logo on their jerseysand shit, like, dude, that's
it's almost twenty five years ago,and like he's still playing, but he's
like very much at the end ofhis career. And it's like, dude,
I was an adult when he wasa fucking rookie and saying I had
a kid already, you know whatI'm saying, Like, it's different when

(02:17:52):
you see people retired, Like I'man adult. This guy played when I
was a kid. Now there thereare people retiring from sports that were adults
when I was an adult. Yeah, what's gonna be really scary is and
I'm already at this point with football, so are you guys for the most
part, But when like baseball andthe ship, when you start seeing guys

(02:18:20):
who are going into the Hall ofFame and you're like, wait a minute,
did did they even play long enoughto be in the Hall of Fame?
And then you go look it upand you're like, oh my god,
he played fifteen It's been fifteen fuckingyears. It's been seventeen years since
Lebron James entered the NBA. Yeah, man, seventeen fucking years. Dude,

(02:18:41):
that's not old for a house.I'm old for you know, it's
a long time. I'm with Chrison this one. I remember when Kevin
Garnett we used to play for thetemper Roves and he used to be the
shit over there. Then he wentto Boston and wanted as the Big three.
Wells, that was one. Nowhe's in the Fall of Fame.

(02:19:03):
I was like, well, wasit Kevin Garnett, Like did he just
stop playing like two years ago?Yeah? You know the the you know,
the one that really got me.And I don't know why because I'm
not a big basketball fan. Hewas never a big fan of this guy.
Never a big fan of mean inthe teams he is on is Ray
Allen. And here's why Ray Allengot me before he was even in the

(02:19:24):
NBA. I think it was betweenit was the summer between him finishing college
and entering the draft or whatever.He filmed that Spike Lee movie. He
got game. He was like,my age, Like he's been retired for
what going on ten years now,he's like forty five, he's forty five,
and I'm like, I looked atthis dude is like a contemporary and

(02:19:46):
he's considered ancient in the fucking inthe sport of basketball now, and I'm
just like that fucks with me,and I don't know why like it.
The only thing that come close tofu with me that much was when I
bought my first fucking hockey video gameafter Bob Probert retired and I couldn't have

(02:20:07):
him traded to the team that Iwas playing. I was like, this
is weird because my entire life onvideo games. His career started in eighty
four, he retired in two thousandand two, My entire life playing hockey
video games, Bob Probert has beenin him no more. And it's just
like that bothers, which starts lookinglike that kid looking for fucking seat codes

(02:20:30):
on the internet to get Bob Proberton the game. Bro, this is
no bullshit. I'll just make him. Fuck it, I'll make him.
This is no bullshit. You're close. If he hadn't die, this wouldn't
have happened, though, But therewas. There was enough of a fan
support for them to include him andthe like the legends teams and stuff,

(02:20:52):
and he's rated like I mean,they went off his best season. He
was like an eighty seven eighty eightI mean, and you go back to
the eighty seven, ironically, theeighty seven eighty eight season where he had
his best season. Now many peopleremember this about the man. He was
the red Wings all time single seasonplayoff point leader for almost a decade,

(02:21:13):
like more than Isiserman, more thanfucking Mickey Redman. I mean, up
into the mid nineties, no onescored more points in a Red Wings playoff
run than he did. And heand he'd scored and he had like it
was like twenty two points. Sothere's more points than anybody in the Red
Wings are an inaugural team in theNHL. That's because no matter who was

(02:21:35):
on fucking ice. When the fuckingpuck was scored, there was always proby
throwing somebody into the board to getpeople out of the way. It's just,
yeah, it's this sucks. Idid find this out there. My
buddy, my buddy Eric from Philly, he played against Shed Wallace in fucking
high school. Oh no, shit, yeah, Sheets from fucking Philly.

(02:21:56):
He's like dumb as a box ofrocks. Good thing he could ball.
I was like, damn, dude, He's like, no, seriously,
he's on the court, he's amagician. Talk to him afterwards. It's
like pulling teeth in middle of theconversation, like wow, okay, so

(02:22:18):
yeah, but I mean he's fortyseven. My body who played against Sheet.
It made me feel old, likeshe didn't she just get traded like
here ten years ago. Oh shit, that's been fifteen Fuck god, damn
yeah exactly. Now I gotta leave. I'm feeling all kinds of old.
Now. Well, I gotta gobecause I got a piss. So let's
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