U of M, LeBron, NBA Playoffs, MLB Pitchers

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Sporty Christopher Media Dot, thank you, Chustop Media, Dott. And now
it's sporty back. It's like thethird week of June. I'm Chris,
I'm Rich, I'm the ice man, I'm the ice man. The fucker.

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Yeah, well, well it's uhit's playoff times, NBA playoffs,
NHL playoffs. Those in a minute, but a situation we alerted Rich.
Rich was only aware of the situationas we were finishing our last podcast.
But the situation at u of M. And then it was just timing,
like the next day, all ofa sudden boom, shit meet fan like

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it. Uh so, yeah,Rich, you said you got some things
to say about what's going on withthe whole Doctor Anderson U of M situation.
First of all, this needs tobe said, and I can't believe
it needs to be said, becauseif granted our audience is much smaller than
our local sports talk station is justin sheer numbers, you know, But

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if the percentage of people calling todefend Bosham Beckler, even if he did
it, even if he knew aboutit and said nothing made me sick to
my stomach, I don't give afuck about what memories a coach a player
gave to you via coaching or playing. I don't care how dedicated to the

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program here, I don't care ifyou went to the fucking school. You
need to understand that the guilty partiesrepresent only themselves. Now, if it
goes up the chain, then youcan say, yeah, I mean we're
talking what thirty to fifty years agothis was going on. How many of
the principal people are still alive andkicking. But still we need to know

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how far up the chain it goes. And I'm sorry you protect a child
molester. You deserve the same fuckingfate as he does. Go to fucking
prison for a very long time andhave a very bad time. Hope you
like prison food and penis because that'swhat you're that's all you're living on for
your time in there. I thinknaser Is, anyone that could do some

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time, is dead pretty much now. That's still yet nothing's been proven.
I get that now, if youwant to take a look, I'm listening
to the accusations, I'm listening tothe rebuttals. I'm taking into consideration this
and this. That's fine, butI've heard shit as ridiculous as people start

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living in the land of what ifand might well made what if. The
son who said that he was sexuallyassaulted by the doctor told his father both
Shehembeckler and bo Schembechler said, Idon't believe you. Maybe he's saying that
because they cut him out the will. Yeah, and maybe if I had

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four more inches of meat, yourmother wouldn't walk right, Okay, But
why is the upside of this?As an adult? This is what my
retort to these people. All Right, if he does this, when it
happens to him, I understand,like you know that first of all,
that shoots you down. But yeah, as an adult, what does he
have to gain if from saying thisnothing? Well, look, as someone

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who has been molested and told afamily member and was told twice by that
family member that I was lying andsent back to the situation where it happened
again, you learn that no onecares. That's the that's the lesson you
learned once you go to someone whois one of two people who are supposed

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to for their entire lives be thereto protect you, especially when you're a
child. Okay, he went tohis father, said this happen if his
father blew him off. It isvery common for even teenagers to go,
oh, then this is something Idon't talk about. Obviously. The subtext

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is, even if it happened,keep it to yourself, period. Anybody
who's had family members anything like that, who've gone through this, who went
through it themselves, God forbid,and have tried to say, hey,
this happened, I need some help, and have one of your parents look
at you and go no, nowgo back. Dude. That fucks you

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up for life. Man. Imean, so you can't hold on,
hold on, You can't sit hereand apply you're born and to leave it
to beaver fucking family that you mayhave been raised in. Even if daddy
was a drunk and beat up onyou and your brothers and sisters, it
still ain't the same as a parentso deep in denial or who does not

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give a fuck so much they senda kid back into a situation where they're
gonna get fucking sexually assaulted. Period. Like you may stop your internal dialogue.
You are wrong if you're disagreeing withme. End of story. I
don't care. I don't care aboutyour feelings. I don't care about words.
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will hurt forever to

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trust that is broken, the fundamentalbond that is lost between a parent and
a child, and for people tocall up and like like, even,
okay, I don't mind speculating maybethey had a strain in the relationship.
I don't know if if, ifthe facts come out and that proves that,
fine, whatever, But to callup and be like, oh,

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he's disgruntled, he's pressed off,he didn't get enough of the Shembechler fortune.
He's really you think it? Doyou think it's easy for a grown
man and his fucking what is whatis this guy in his fifties now to
stand up and say this shit whilepeople were taking pictures scrutinize them. It
ain't even a local it's not evenlocal stories anymore. There's nothing local.
Everything's global. The minute it's recorded, it's being broadcast all over the world.

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You think he's gonna put himself underthat type of scrutiny. And here's
the deal. You're right, there'snothing. There's nothing the principal people area.
So you know what you do?You fucking go, hey, look,
we need to get this shit outof here. This is ridiculous victims,
So absolutely ridiculous. That's what I'msaying. The alleged criminals are mostly
dead, and people that covered itup are mostly dead. This this,

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this guy makes very NASA look likean underachieversations or something along those lines.
It's like, it's like, atleast double it in. Yeah, go
ahead, I need you to tohear me out. Just hear me out.
Go ahead. Everything everything you saidwas one h here's the thing back

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in that time with bow Um,with you Rich, with me Um,
with Joe Pa, those were acceptednorms in some circles. I don't know
why. I don't I think itwas more than accepted to keep it quiet.
Hold on, just wait a second, Yeah, exactly it you just

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it never happens. It never happenslike like what it like when you look
at Joe Pa, when you lookat Boschem Beckler, stuff like that.
Those people, tom Izzo, themain huge pieces of your brand, Well
that couldn't happen there that that's that'sGod in an essence. There's no way

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that those people knew that this typeof thing was going on. And Rich
back to your family, same thingwith me when my mom had had me
do it and stuff and my issues. My mom was the matriarch or the
family or the patriarch, whatever thefuck you call them, the head person,
you know. And when I toldmy grandmother and she's like, you

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gotta be shit, no, no, no, no, get on.
You know, people just can't fathomthat people of that stature would do something
that low. It doesn't flick.Here's the problem that I run into because
everything you just said was in myhead when I first learned about this,

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and and I was and I justgot the very surface details. I was
like, Okay, everything you saidran through my head until this point.
They joked about it. Assistant coachesjoked about it with the players. Yeah,
they're the nickname for him. Yeah, like I can't doctor finger up
your ass. Yes. Yeah.Basically they were like, oh, you're

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gonna go get whatever. I'm tiredof learning child molesters and murderers names,
so whatever his name was, youknow, you're gonna go get like,
oh, you're gonna go get doctor. Riched Like if I was accused of
this, like you know all youbetter, Oh you hurt? Oh you
know the doctor he's gonna stick hisdick in your ass. You go see
him, And people go, well, if they're joking about it. That's

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called a coping mechanism. People withjet black senses of humor developed them to
survive situations. That's why we havethem. Yeah, we're funny, but
at what cost. You'll never knowbecause you can't climb in our heads.
But the people who joke about shitlike that, and I'm one of them,
I was molested and I joke aboutmolestation. My mom died of cancer.

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I joke about cancer. I'm notabove cracking jokes and whistling past the
graveyard folks. That's a coping mechanism. I've noticed. I've started to make
an inordinate amount of dead dad jokes. Usually happens around Father's Day. But
yeah, rich. But most peoplethat are calling in what if or how
hell no? Or he wants moneyor those are the people that are just

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like in your family, your aunt, your ookers, are grand or whatever
that are saying it can't happen.Their stature is just too high. They
wouldn't be this person to keep hushhush on that type of thing. No
fucking way. Well, it justthat's these is one of those things where
it's it's almost it's like a millennialbut not you can present all the evidence,

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you can have fucking photos of ithappening, and those people would be
like, oh, that's photo shop. Don't come on now, because then
the idea is so absurd. Maybeit's like maybe it's shot. Yeah,
it will not click that these peoplecould actually do that. No, No,
it could just be straight up denialtoo. It's it's shot combination.

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It's a combination of both. Andyou're right, here's the problem. I
don't give a fuck. I mean, that was fifty That was fifty to
thirty years ago. Bo has beendead since two thousand and seven. Okay,
he hasn't been coached since what ninetyninety ones. We're around there when
it was Gary Muhllerer. I can'tremember. It's not important. The point

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is is that that was fine backthen. Okay, that was how they
wanted to handle it. We can'thop into DeLorean Doc Brown hit eighty eight
miles per hour and go fuck ahot Leiah Thompson and fix this shit.
Okay, we can't do that.But what we can do is go never
fucking again and put in checks andbalances and safety measures to make the people

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who one are trying to get herin around vulnerable people, because that's what
these scumbags have done. They've embeddedthemselves in a job to where they have
i mean open easy access to veryvulnerable people who are very fucking Yes,
athletes are spoiled. Absolutely if youshow, if you show athletic promise at

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a young age, raw talent,and the people around you recognize it,
and you are shaped and molded intoan athlete, you are probably one of
the most entitled, spoiled cocksuckers everfucking will meet. However, they're also
told some of them take it toheart, and these are probably the ones
who kept their mouth shut and didn'tjoke about it, that, oh,

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if you do one thing wrong,you fuck everything up. Don't rock the
boat. There's a payday at theend of all this. Everybody goes it's
hazy and it's part of the deal. You gotta pay your dues. You
got all the excuses in the world. Don't fucking matter. It's just like,
it's just like a touchdown in football. Once someone once that football crosses

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that plane, it's a touchdown.Once someone violates your personal fucking space and
does anything unwanted to you sexually,that's you're off. I don't care if
you're a doctor. I don't carehow many lamb skins you got hanging on
your wall. You got to gowith extreme prejudice, in my opinion,
throw him, Throw him in genPop on the main line. Let them

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handle them. They know how todo it, all right, All right,
now, let's let's talk about thefact that Bow might have known and
reported it. If he did reportit, it did go up. It
still doesn't matter. I'm looking atJoe Pap. Joe papported it and everything's
taken care of. Everything's fine.Knew you're coaching, and then they took

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coaching away from him and killed it. He killed that man. He was
on the way out anyways, Let'sbe honest. I mean timing of his
death. I mean to me,it's up there with Ed Martin's timing of
death. Yeah. Really in themiddle of all of this should check out
hot Joe Pa. It's I'm justsaying the man reported it, and people
still wanted him out of Penn State, of course, because look, because

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he knew about it and still letit go on even though I told somebody
doesn't cut it. It's in asituation like like he still could have did
something. And that's kind of whatwe're gonna get out with Boschbeckler here too.
This is this is what I'm saying. Look, all I know is
what I would do in this situation. If I walk in and I and
I witnessed the situation, I hearrhythmic slapping coming from the showers. Okay,

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somebody's gonna wish that your mama wouldwould have swallowed that night, because
I'm gonna do my best take thatmotherfucker apart at the joints while he's still
alive till I get to the lastone period end of the story. Now,
if I hear about it and Igo to report it, I don't
give a fuck. If that's Godsitting across from that fucking for me at
that desk, I'm gonna look himdead in a fucking baby blues or whatever

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fucking color eyes he's gotten. Go. You got one fucking day. I'm
gonna be back here tomorrow at thisexact time. If you ain't done shit
about it, I'm gonna start beatingthe fuck out of whoever greets me at
the front of your fucking office.So you don't want your secretary dead,
send her home. Period. Forgiveme if I'm not aware of the of

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the encompassing duties of a head coach. But wouldn't both these gentlemen have the
power to say, I don't know, you're fired, Hey, Chomo,
clean out your desk. No,that's the athletic director. That's fine,
cool, because guess what now we'resitting in an office having a conversation in
nineteen seventy and he's looking at megoing, well, bo, you know,

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if you go and you say somethingor you do something and I have
to fire you, I'll thing fromthe rooftops. Motherfucker. Either way,
it's coming out. You can eitherfucking you can either call the authorities and
have the right thing done, havethis motherfucker picked up, or I could
take everybody down with me, becauseif I'm dying, we all die in
motherfucker. Yeah. Period, that'swhat a man does. Suicide best,

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that motherfucker. That's because being aman, being a fuck a man,
being a good fucking human, that'swhat a good human does. Fuck it,
seriously, dude, let justice bedone though the heaven falls. I
don't give a fuck. You're fuckingwith people's lives. This is not shit

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that you can brush. This isn'tDaddy didn't get me when I wanted for
kiss miss one year. This ain'tthat. This fucks you up. You
can't have healthy relationships. You don'tgrow up like everybody else. You constantly
feel fucking dirty. You you theways that molestation and the cover up in

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the bullshit manifest itself. I couldsee here and list off until fucking judgment
day. Okay, and I don'tthink judgment day is coming, so we
got quite a while. That's whatI'm saying. This is, I mean,
this is what's lost. I don'twant to fucking exactly night day dawn.
We're gonna do it, like GeorgeRomero, go kill some pedophiles.

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What time is it? Does ithave a digit in it? Yeah,
it's pedophile killing time. But anyways, file hazard nonis. They're gonna do
the soundtrack helmet. Yeah, butuh no, man, I'm look that
Burge make that movie. Look ohbullshit aside, Man, there's no wiggle

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room on this. I don't care. I don't want to hear if it
comes out for sure that there isSee here's the problem. There's not going
to be an electronic paper trail.So to speak, it or electronic trail,
I should say it's going to bea literal paper trail. And we
all know how easy it is tothrow a file on a fire. Dude.
I've worked for general managers parties whopeople have like hurt themselves at work.

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Watch them go into the office,open the filing cabinet, pull the
person's entire employee, fall file out, take it outside, burn it and
go you don't work for me.I ain't paying for that. I've seen
him do it. Now. Whetherthat does anything or not, this sends
quite a fucking message. And ifthey're willing to do that over a little
fucking what fifteen maybe fifteen hundred dollarsfucking a medical bill, what do you

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think someone like you of EM's wantingto do to protect their brand? Which,
by the way, we need toget into the fact that why is
this not blowing up like the LarryNast thank you I want this is something
I wanted to do. By theway, real quick, I would ask
that fellow like, so, didyou pay this person in cash? Because
that's how they but anyway, um, it's called the payroll record, dummy.

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He might have paid him in kareyeah, gotcha. But again no,
no, but that's who Anderson Who'sstill no, he's weighed Okay,
that's why it's not blowing up likethis. There seems to be. We
talked about it in our chat.It's it was talked about on our local
sports talk station. You know,I called it the blue machine last podcast.

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It's like his term better, it'sthe blue wall of silence because it's
like it's behind paywalls on like theDetroit Free Press dot com. You know,
it's not it's not part of thefree stuff you can read. And
yeah, there are tons of writersaround here that have Michigan educations that don't
really seem to be writing about thisstory. No, and the worst ones

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are the ones who don't have Michiganeducations, just have ties to the program
and out of misplaced loyalty, theyfeel like they're doing something good to not
report about this. It's the program. Again, we said it many times.
If it bleeds, it leads,there's nobody to hold their feet to
the fire. What there's nine hundredvictims, but paying somebody damages doesn't get

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the headlines as executing the person thatdid the crime. It's true, Larry
Nasser is alive. Larry Nasser couldbe paraded in front of TV cameras and
and here this is the bad guy, this person right here. Yeah,
we all remember the story about thefather who wanted five minutes alone with him,
right, So you can't do thatwith a picture of a guy who

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used to be a doctor at thedrag, the venerating, vaunted um through
the fucking mud. You could turnit into a you could turn it into
I t H. Preached all theway down here but went further. But
I love I love being a reductionistand acting like there's only one reason for
everything to happen as much as anybodyelse, because it's a fun, fucking

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mental exercise. But ultimately it ismental masturbation. There are multiple reasons this
as a national story. One,yes, it is long ago. Most
of the people who are accused ofany wrongdoing are dead or salt and sugar
kick their ass, So that's thesame as dead. It doesn't matter.
Okay. Two, let's be honest, let's do it. Let's do it.

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My grandmama used to say, goodold Southern saying, tell the truth.
Shame the devil man getting fucking molesteddoesn't sell as well as Little Girls.
Doesn't cause the outrage as much asLittle Girls. It causes outrage.
It causes fucking Believe me. Believeme, I said. I. I
have had to fucking listen to shitand talk about and listen to people talk

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about shit that I don't want tolisten to. It's drug up shitting me
I don't want to deal with.But no one cares about me because I'm
a forty four year old, straightwhite guy. My life's perfect, right,
so shut the fuck up. Noone cares. Fine, I get
that. I don't expect I don'texpect pamphlets from the government telling me how

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to deal with this, and youknow why I need a tampon and shit.
Okay, Like you know, Iget it. We it is what
it is, Okay, like sayingor not, it just means what are
you gonna do? You can't doanything about it. But there's also other
reasons. If this was ninety eightaccusation against Michigan, this would be all

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anyone is talking about. Yeah,yeah, okay. Michigan's brand has fallen
off to not one, but twogenerations of college football fans. They see
Michigan as okay boomer football. You'rethe you're the boomer football team, You're
the old people's foot. Yes,you're the winning this program in college football

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history because you've been around the longest. Yes, you have all this history
because you've been around the longest.Who gives a fuck? What have you
done? Ohio State has been neckeddeep in your ass for two decades?
And I mean, you know whatI'm saying. I mean, outside of
this area, which should be ahot but this should be. There's only

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one show I know that he's constantlytalking about this locally and if you know,
if you're from Detroit area, youknow, it's Mike Vlenny's show.
And he hates Michigan and he's rightabout a lot of stuff, but also
his hatred to Michigan is starting tocloud his Yeah, he's trying to like
draw comparisons and well what about ishim? Well, when this happened to

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MSU, and I'm like, no, stop, dude, stop. It
was wrong when they did it toMSU, When they tried to somehow connect
Naster to the football program, whichhad nothing to do with what was going
on, nothing to do with theaccusations that was going on. That was
wrong. And he was right whenhe called out for him to try to
connect this to Jim Harbaugh because hardballdresses like Bosham Beckler and the sidelines get

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the fuck out my face with thisbullshit. Man. Seriously, dude,
the ditch. I am definitely withyou about where they're at with the standing
of the muh definitely has something todo with it. But I don't think
this is a hush hush by thebig blue thing like Christmas trying to say,

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because when again, Penn State wasboys, they were guys. They
were coming out staying this and theyhad sam Dust, but they had San
Dusky and they paraded that motherfucker aroundfirst ever. Okay, you're right,
you're right. Listen to me.Stop arguing when I tell you you're right.

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I can't do this on two podcasts. Okay, all right, now,
listen to me. Those were GLTold boys. These are fucking college
age men. Men. You know, it's convenient when we want to send
boys to war, they're men.They can handle it. When we want

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to fucking excuse somebody sexually assaulting aneighteen, nineteen twenty twenty one year old
kid, they're man. Any timeelse we gotta wait till they're twenty five
to fucking because their brain has todevelop and all this shit, and well,
childhood lasts much longer than we usedto previously think. I have heard

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eighteen and nineteen year olds referred tolately as teenagers, which I get it
technically, yes, but I meanwhen we were younger, they were you
were that at that point you wereadult. It was yeah, it was
eighteen year old man, nineteen yearold man, or nineteen year old.
There's no money shot, and bymoney shot, it's maybe it's an unfortunate
use of a phrase by me,but there's no smoking gun. That's a

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better one. There's no There wasan assistant coach who walked in on Sandusky
molesting a kid, saw it withhis own eyes. If there was a
smoking gun like that, like ifJim Brandsteader had walked in and caught this
doctor molesting a ten eleven year oldboy, oh shit, dude, that

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kid would be tracked down. AndI don't you know, tin fall hat
time. Sorry. I kind ofthink I think there's going to be some
pay days under the table from Michiganboosters, because there's very sick people out
there who think the most important thingis the program and it's not. Yep,
it's not. I don't give afuck about to look you of them.

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Hospital tried to save my mom's life. I mean, for like,
did everything they could, knowing thatthey were never going to get paid for
it. No one she was poor, Thank you for that. That doesn't
excuse what happened. If this istrue, none neither does a national championship.
Neither does Rose Bowl appearances, neitherBig ten tamp championships. Neither does
your fucking piece of paper saying yougraduated from this school, just as it

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doesn't reflect on you personally. Youdidn't molest anyone. I don't look at
you with any fucking contempt, butI'm gonna look at you with contempt if
you act like well, because Michigangave me an education and allowed me to
live this life, or they gaveme these memory reads with their sports teams,
then I will turn the blind eyetowards this. That is inexcusable in
my book, and it's not upfor debate with me. In fact that

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someone wants to debate it with me, I will. I will give them
one chance. And this is asgood as it's gonna get we're not going
to agree on this. This isgonna get me hostile. Remember you're in
a room with me alone, andnow you've got me pissed off, are
you? Is that what you want, because that's where we're going, and
I want to go the other waywith that, Rich. I don't want
to take what happened, and that'sthat's in a place that to the rest

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of them, you know, eventI'm not. I'm placing it on the
program and the people that were runningthe program at the top of the program
at the time. And you're gonnaremember, this is an accusation that goes
from when Bo got there till Bowleft. That's what twenty years, give
or take, dude. I mean, that's a hundred fucking players on the
team plus the practice squad for twentyyears. Do the math, dude.

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That's a lot of fucking players.And there's something about please listeners, all
two of you, please forgive me. Like I said, I got personal
shit that makes digging into this alittle rough. I haven't done my due
diligence like I probably should have.There's something about the nine hundred accusations,
though that is kind of in theair, like with a question mark.

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It's like there's nine hundred accusations.Ellipsis question mark because and this wasn't in
defense of anybody. This was justwe've yet to actually hear these people say
anything, or they've yet to putanything down. This is like numbers that
people are saying, well, we'vehad this many complaints. We don't know
that there's that many complaint. Anybodycan make any type of claim, especially

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when their hand isn't on a Bibleand they're not standing in front of a
judge. But even if it's half, there's also greed. Well even if
it's only half, even if it'sa quarter, even if it's one,
it's one. Too fucking many managreed, Why the fuck is fucking a
child ever? Okay, like noperiod, but if you can sing and

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danced by the fuck and and yesI understand these aren't kids. Rich you
just pointed that out. Yes,you're right, But what the fuck difference
does it make? When is itokay to sexually assault somebody? Give member
exactly, So, if you're defendingnot you two, but anybody defending this

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shit, and I'm not talking aboutnothing's been proven in a court of law,
you're absolutely right. No one shouldbe in president at this point according
to our legal system. That's whywe have a legal system, because if
we if we didn't, your fatewould be based upon who accused you of
doing what, and who heard aboutthe accusation and how pissed they got.

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That's whether you live or die.That's mob justice. We're trying to get
away from that, even though we'vemoved from the court of you know,
law, to the court of publicopinion. A lot of shit still like
I get that, I will fine, I get you. But if they
get the smoking gun, if theyhave fucking records a few of them is
I was about to say dumb enough. But if they're they have enough integrity

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to actually release files and be like, yep, this was in there.
We didn't know because motherfucker I wasthree when it happened. Yeah, okay,
I didn't know. Why would Idig around in dusty files from fifty
fucking years ago? But now thatI found them, boom, I'm blowing
the whistle. We knew about it. Here's who knew about it. They're

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dead, they're alive, go afterthat. I'm fine with that, and
that's what should be done. Idon't think it will be. I sadly,
I think there's going to be there'sChris isn't wrong to feel that this
is a cover up in progress goingon. No, or not a cover
up, but like a turning downof the volume on this story going on.

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Maybe that's a better way to like, Yeah, we'll put it on
in the back of You know,it's like you're walking TV shop and all
they're all playing the same thing,but there's one TV in the back that
you can't hear, but you seeit's not playing the same thing, and
you have to get right up ontop of it. That's what the that's
what the media is doing. Andthis has that's disgusting to me. I
don't care that it's not little kids. I don't care that it's not your

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precious little girl gymnast. I don'tcare. It happened to human beings and
people and it was allowed to keephappening like horrible ship because you don't have
anybody to parade around and cameras doesn'tmake it any less of a issue exactly.
And let me tell you something.Let me tell you something. The
lives that I've seen destroyed by severeabuse, not even necessarily sexual but just

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severe abuse, and when people aren'tbelieved, or when kids and teenagers are
told to shut up. You knowthis, this is part of life.
Shut up, would take it.You shouldn't have been there, you go,
We told you not to go around. You're weird uncle when he's drinking,
you know whatever? The fuck dude, if you of them had a
hand in causing any of that,chub fucking ching, pay them because their

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lives have been fucked by this,whether you know it or not, and
on you. It affects everybody differently. I have friends who turned into horrors,
and I'm talking guys, and theyfuck everything. They fucking moves.
I have people have friends who hadthis happened to them who go the opposite
way. They turn into prudes.They can't be in relationships, they can't

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have a physical connection with someone theylove because it's imprinted in their mind that
what was done to them at ayoung age is what is what sex is
and it's dirty. Do you understandlisten to me. Do you understand going
through life not being able to tohave a physical sexual connection with the woman

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or man you love because something happenedhe as a child. And you're gonna
sit here and argue semantics the fuckout of my face, man, because
why because you're like a sports team, because you yeah, because of because
of the Fab five, because offucking ninety seven, because of the sixty
nine Rose Bowl, or whatever.The fuck the fuck out of here,

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man. I love Bob Probert,my favorite athlete of all fucking time.
Bob Probert was a fucking asshole.Okay, when he was using, he
was an asshole. He was aninsufferable asshole. From all accounts, there
was two men in that body,one when he was a fucking coked out
drunk and one when he wasn't.Okay. I no one is perfect,

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no one is all evil. I'msure even child molesters love their animals,
take care of their cats something,all right, But Jesus fucking Christ to
listen to grown adults argue semantics aboutthis shit and downplay the story and downplay
the accusations because it's my favorite team. Fuck you. I'll tell you what

(32:55):
when you, Chris, when youtold me, I swear on my life,
my daughter's life, if there's adeity up there, I swear on
the deity that it's up there,swear to them. Got their pronouns right
this time. Okay, I swearI was like, if this ship,
I almost feel like I need tofind a new fucking college football team route
for I know it's not logical,I know it's not reasonable. I know

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it's not pragmatic, but it's like, I can't get if this, if
this comes out, that they coveredthis up for twenty years, and then
here's the here's the sin. Tome, that would be the worst for
you of them if they get caughttrying to actively cover it up or downplay
it. Now. To me,the minute these accusations come out, whoever

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it's not whoever's the athletic director.I don't know off the top of my
head. Sorry. Should have beenlike open door policy. Open all the
books right now, get the investigatorsin here right now. You can audit
everything we have. Anything you don'thave, here's my direct cell phone number.
You call or text, you willhave it as soon as I can
get it for you. That's howtransparent this should be. That's not what's

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going on. I can't fucking cosign on that, man, I can't
rubber stamp that because well, gee, I've rooted for in my entire life.
Gee, they tried to save mymom's life. No, the doctors
that you haven't tried to save mymom's life. This doctor was molesting fucking
eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one year oldfucking young men. Difference, big fucking
difference. Sorry, I'm off ona rant. I just it makes me

(34:22):
sick to my stomach. Man,And I said the same thing with the
with the MSU shit and people,well here was, um, you wouldn't
be saying this. And I justlooked at him and said, you don't
know me at all. That's thesad part. We've known each other twenty
years. Here we are, andyou think I'm like this, I'm not
like that. What do you think? Do you think I'm a monster,
because that's who does that? Amonster? Man? Like I'm with you,

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I'm I'm just about everything. I'vebeen there, done that, and
my life ruined by it. Uh. Yeah, It's terrible. Never an
excuse ever. Uh But again,I just unfortunately the media is what the
media is. They need the bigheadlines and there's nobody to parade and go,

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this is the bad guy. Ifthere was, if they're if they're
if they look in the file andthey find anybody that new and it's still
any way competent today, it willblow the fuck up because there you can
point to him and say there,that's him, that he was one of
them. But if they don't haveit, they okay, so this happened

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and it's a terrible thing, andMichigan's doing what they have to do to
make amends, and yeah, theyjust need for it to be a big
story like you of them, likePenn State. They need the bad guy.
And it sucks. It sucks,you know, because it's stupid.
It's it's unthinkable that you could dosomething like that and be okay with yourself,

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whether it's a football team, whetherit's a college, whether I don't
care what it is in your ownhome, to think that you could do
that to a person and ruin therest of their life like yours, like
mine, like so many others,and thinks that that's okay. Because no,
it's not okay, because all right, there's no because it's never okay.

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You can't get to okay because becauseit's never okay, there you go,
there's your fucking because see this thisis the thing that fucks me up.
Though I'm not going to say itruined my life, but definitely affected
my life. And I am theperson I am in a large part because
of not necessarily just what happened,but the reaction to it from people who

(36:45):
were that I had been lied toand told these were people here to protect
you and make sure that this willnever happen. And if it does happen,
god forbid that never happens again.Not send me right back into the
belly of the beast. But thisis where this bullshit that we see in
society, like, uh, Iwatched a movie and someone was smoking and

(37:06):
you should have given me a triggerwarning. Shut the fuck up. Okay,
there's people who suffered real trauma whohave to deal with it, and
it's we don't get our little microaggressionsand our little fucking checklist of you know,
our safety dogs and all this shitbecause you know, mommy fucking denied
you Barbie dreamhouse when you were fuckingnine years old and you've never gotten over

(37:29):
it. Like this is what wereally need shit for. And and I've
said this to people personally who I'veknown who've had have been sexually assaulted.
Don't you ain't you ain't a victim? Are you dead. Did it kill
you? No, you're not avictim. You survive it, and you
need to focus on the fact thatyou're still fucking breathing. You're still here.

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Unfortunately, whoever did whatever they've doneto these people, to these people
may never fucking face justice. Andthis is what kills me. As a
hopeful agnostic. I don't I hopethere's an afterlife, but I mean,
this is like one time, I'mlike, if there was a Christian hell,
people who fuck it's blessed children andtake advantage of people in situations it

(38:09):
sexually solved them need to be there. That's I'm okay with that. But
ultimately I think that if they died, they got away with it. But
if I was part of you,of m or MSU or Penn State,
I would be so thankful because atleast somebody would be called and accountable.

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I was in a ring, alittle literal sex ring. It was my
every weekend thing. If I hadhold up, hold up, hold up,
hold up, time out. Bro, you really got to rephrase this.
We might even want to edit thatout. You made it sound like
you were it was my every weekendthing, like you were showing up the
fucking children, bro Like, yeah, like you just phrased it the wrong

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way. Seriously, Chris, Iwould it would take too. Yes,
I was in a sex by mymother. I was put there by her
when I was eight years old,and I was made to do things that
you shouldn't do as a child,period. And if I was part of

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MSU or you of M or PennState, I would be so thankful because
there's a list of things of peoplethat could be be pointed at and say
there, that's who did it tome. If I had my mom's black
book, Oh, I would berich beyond your wildest dreams. There were
judges, there were head figures,state figures, There were so many people,

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Yes, that actually pointed from fromall walks of life, shape,
sizes, colors, genders, whateverthe fuck whatever qualifier you want to put
on there. No, no one'sgot a fucking monopoly on that ship.
Six come in all shapes and sizesthey do. And you know, I
want this to be bigger for theU of M. But I understand unfortunately

(39:59):
people are gone and I can't pointto the bad guy, but I applaud
them, and I hope, Ihope if this becomes true that you of
them brings everything the light that happenedto these these survivors, because that'll make
it right. I don't care ifyou pay them. I don't care if
you give them, you know,trying to make amends and all that,

(40:19):
but let it be known what happenedand who you Let's let's that's the best
you can hope for right now,because they're gone. I think I think
we can pretty much all agree onthat. Maybe not, you know,
there's a little minutia specific parts thatwe might you know, have different views
on, but that's that's small enoughto where we can overlook it. Sports

(40:42):
Customer Media dot net, Christoper Mediadot net. Sports you Let's okay,
we've talked about the emotional side ofthis. Let's talk about the business side
of this. I'm perfectly fine ifit comes out and like you have m
has files that backs this up,or it's shown that you have them destroyed

(41:05):
files to cover shit up, thatthey vacate everything to do with bo statue
down, wins gone, Big tenchampionships gone, take the banners down.
I'm fine with it. Sorry,you coached twenty years and you knew this
was going on. You're a pieceof shit. Bro, Hey, loving

(41:27):
to your animals, that's nice always, you know, never never cheated or
beat on your beat your wife.Okay, good for you. You're still
a fucking piece of shit. Andif giving a starving college kid one hundred
bucks so he can go fucking getsomething to eat and have some money in

(41:49):
his pocket to do something on aSaturday night, it is worth erasing national
championships? What the fuck is thisworth? So would you be on board?
Then if it comes out that thisis like a multi generational, multi
decade cover up, is this deathpenalty worthy? This goes beyond yeah,
yeah, And I'm I'm not talkingSMU death penalty. I'm talking the end

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of U of M's football program.I'm fine with it. Astag done.
WHOA your your your records stop rightnow. Okay, you might be winning
this program in college football, butafter fifty years and not having a college
football team, you ain't gonna berich said, welcome to the Big Nine.
I'm fine with it, dude.There are certain lines and certain things

(42:38):
you don't do in this world.I want to make this clear too,
because my wife and I talked aboutthis. When you when you look at
Kareem Hunt and Ray Rice, andyou think, well, that's personal life,
that's things that happen off the fieldthat shouldn't affect their performance and who
they are on the field. Whenyou look at both Chembechler and you look
at Joe Pod, you look atyou know other things. This happened while

(43:02):
they were doing what they're hailed fordoing. Okay, so don't comment me
and say, well, you knowthe molestation had nothing to do with how
he coached. Yes, it fuckingdid. Happened where he worked. Okay,
this isn't something that happened in thebasement of assistant coach or a doctor

(43:24):
or somewhere way off in no man'sland. And you know he might know,
he might not know this happened atthe school. Okay. These are
all allegations, could be proven,could not. Yes, what, everything's
blanketed and allegedly, So save yourright. So if if this becomes true,
this happened at the school, everybodyknew, everybody shut up, some

(43:47):
people reported, some people covered up. Whatever. So don't comment me and
tell me that just because this happened, this doesn't affect how he coached.
Yes, it fucking did. Well, you gotta not only think about that,
I think about this if it's ifit was so, if it was
such common knowledge that this guy wasgonna fucking sexually assault you, that they

(44:08):
joked about it. What happens whena player and he's like a team doctor.
What happens when a player gets injured? You want to go see a
doctor? Oh no, no,no, no, I'm good, I'm
good. I mean, it's likea bad fucking snl skit. But it's
I mean, that had to begoing through people's minds. How many people
fucking First of all, he's notOh I get it, he's got he's

(44:31):
got doctor and he's a medical doctor. Okay, great, wonderful, but
he ain't doing doctor shit. Youknow what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
God Jesus, I just athletic trainerproctologists two different fields, or yeah,
excuse me, but you know,you know, sexual assault was not

(44:52):
in his job fucking description. Correct, But they but twenty years allegedly.
I'm not gonna keep saying allegedly.Everything's blanketly with allegedly. Come at me
if you fucking want to, Okay, but fuck you, I'm not gonna
keep saying it. Twenty years ofthis ship. No, dude, No,
that is going to affect No,I'm fine. How many kids walked

(45:15):
around fucking you know, according orwith brain damage because they're afraid to go
to the fucking doctor, walked aroundand exasperated an injury that could have been
fucking taken care of if they couldgo to a doctor who wasn't going to
sexually assault. The fractures not broken, but fracture, hairline fracture, Yeah,
those are those. If I justtape it up, fuck it exactly.

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That's what I'm saying. People don'tare not understanding how far down this
rabbit hole it goes. This affectseverything about that program. That's why I
have no problem with this. Now, if it happened on bows Watch,
the parties that are that that lookedthe other way or are guilty are dead.

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No. I don't support the deathpenalty, Chris, absolutely, if
it is if this continued after Bow, if this continued, dude, jesus,
thanks, What is that the nightmarefor my that's that's a nightmare,
Like, oh my god, it'sbeen going on for fifty years, is
it? Like? Did do theyhand down from generation to generation? Like,

(46:21):
hey, I got a new pedophileto come in and train and take
my job. Like how this guyworked there apparently twenty years? Jesus,
Yeah, where do you work outbefore seventy to ninety? FU? I
don't know. I mean, andlook, look there is this. Okay,
there is this. It's going tohappen. And as upset as I
am, I am very capable ofgetting over this subject. I understand it.

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I don't know if I condone itone hundred percent, but I understand
it. The local media here wentto Jim brand Statter For people not around
here, Jim brand Statard is theplay by play guy for you of M
used to do, used to bethe color guy for you of him for
a long time. And he's alsoat one point he might still be the
color guy for the Lions broadcast.I don't know, but he's he played

(47:07):
for bow New bou very tied tothe program. He come out and said
this is what I know about Boschem Beckeler, and he laid out his
experience with Bo schem Beckeler, andhe said that didn't happen to me.
I never heard about it. Inever saw anything that made me think that

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Bo was the type of person thatsome people were trying to paint him out
to be. That's fine. Howmany times have you heard of serial killers
neighbors going, Oh, he wasa good neighbor. He kept himself,
he was quiet, kept his lawmode. It doesn't mean he wasn't in
there chopping up women in his basement. It just means you didn't know about
it. So I understand him throwinghis two cents into the ring. But

(47:52):
ultimately, if it didn't happen toyou, then what why are you talking?
I don't understand you're coming out andsaying, well, the bow I
know, but it didn't happen toyou. So you don't know how Bo
would react in that situation because younever saw Bo react in that situation.
If it had happened to him andthen he said he didn't go to Bow

(48:14):
because he wasn't comfortable, I'm nottrying to victim shame, but that's kind
of on you. But then ifif he said it happened to him and
he didn't go to Bow because he'dheard Bow ain't gonna do shit, BO
was gonna laugh at you. Helaughed at his own kid when he when
his kid told him, then yeah, you know what. Fuck it,
Yeah, vacate the wins. Heraced twenty years of fucking you have in

(48:36):
football history. I'm fine with it. In fact, that's the big history
you can do. If you wantan example of what rich is talking about
about how far it goes, lookat Carrie shrugs, remember her nineteen ninety
six, heard her fucking ankle likereal fucking bad, but was still finished
and got the gold right, I'mgonna see the doctor. I'm good,

(49:01):
and went and did a vault perfect. I'm okay, I'm okay. It
had to be carried off, okay, because she didn't want to go see
the goddamn doctor. That's all youneed to know. I mean, that's
how that shit works. To befair, I'm pretty sure a good portion
of a very large portion of thatwas she has a fierce competitor's heart,

(49:22):
and maybe the other part was wedon't know. I don't know if Nasher
was her doctor at that point,so I don't want to fucking you can
throw that out there. He's theone you name in the lawsuit for that,
not me. I'm for the Uof M lawsuit. He's gonna carry
struggling. But uh yeah, Ilike I. But I take your point,
and I think it's a valid point, and I think anyone who dismisses

(49:45):
it one, uh, you're eitherignorant of how sports work, or two
you're in denial like like Chris wasand just flat out or three you don't
care because well it's my team.Well euro apiece of shit. I don't

(50:09):
want to talk to what you anymore? Yeah, pretty much. I mean
talking is done at that point.We're just gonna agree to Yeah, we're
not even agree to degree. Justgo now. I will say this.
We're recording this. I'm the seventeenthas of today. Bro. They had
a press conference. What was itwas yesterday or the day before they had

(50:30):
the big press conference. I'm notsure I think it was. It was
it was one of the days thisweek. We talked about it in our
in our private group chat. Iwent on YouTube typed in you of m
molestation press conference. Yeah. Ihad a couple of live feeds, a
couple a little like minute to minuteand a half news clips on it.

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None of the sports people were talkingabout it. And these are sports channels
on YouTube who talk about earlier today'sbaseball game. In tonight's pot or in
tonight's episode, so they're almost inreal time and no one's talking about this.
Now, you open up Google Newsand click on the sports tab.
The first tab's about the NBA playoffs. I'm gonna leave it here because I

(51:15):
said, of everything I think andI would just repeat myself. I want
to see one solid, Kate,one, just one. There's nine hundred
semi accusations. I want to seeone thing proven one well. I want
to see where the media goes tobe fair. Schem Meckler's son who came

(51:36):
out and said and he told hisdad, and his dad basically said Noah
didn't happen, or didn't believe himor laughed him off. I'm unsure about
the details there. I fully admitthat to be for full disclosure. Bo's
other kids came out and said he'slying, he's full of shit. I

(51:57):
don't know what to do with that. It's just information shouldn't display. I
don't know what's the one. Ijust need one confirmed. Here's concrete evidence.
Here's what happened here, so youknew. Just one. I don't
care if it's a son or aplayer. I just one, and then
I want to see what the mediadoes with it, because right now it's
just a hail of fucking you knowme too's if you will, And so

(52:22):
I think I think I think youwere right. I think I do think.
Yes, there's Michigan's the threads leadingfrom you of m into the world.
There's a lot of threads in alot of different industries, and I'm
pretty sure the broadcast news is oneof them. Journalism, well what's left
of it, But I think it'spart of that now. But I think

(52:45):
you're also right, Earl. It'syou. You have m ain sexy.
It's not. If this was ifthis was Ohio State, this would be
the first story above COVID, evenabove vaccination, to have one. If
we have one one incident, Idon't care if it was no, stop

(53:09):
repeating yourself. We heard you thefirst three times. No one's disagreeing with
you, But I don't care howsexy you of them is or isn't.
I think if there is one,just one proven case, this media will
go nuts over it. The fifthtime is the time that we heard you.
Okay, yes we get that,but it's not there. I agree

(53:30):
with you. If there's that's there'sI don't think there's gonna be a smoking
gun. I personally gun to myhead. All bullshit aside. Call me
a conspiracy theory if you want.I think these records have been expunged,
destroyed, there's no paper trail.It's all here say. Nothing will hold
up in a fucking criminal court.There might be some civil lawsuits, they

(53:52):
might vacate wins, they might fuckingtake scholarships, which doesn't I'm like,
what the fuck you're punishing a programfor literally something that started fifty years ago,
and if it's not been proven tohave continued beyond the Boschembeckler regime.
Why are you punishing them thirty yearsafter the man got done coaching and almost

(54:15):
two decades after he died. Youknow what I'm saying? I mean like
that, that's what I honestly thinkit's gonna have. I don't think I
don't think there's going to be aperp walk. I don't think there's gonna
be anybody and anyone they find alive who has any type of just like
peripheral connection to this. It's gonnabe tenuous and just looser than a two

(54:36):
dollar horror on fucking Sunday morning.It's just like it's gonna be a witch
hunt. And at that point Ican't condone that either, Like, well,
I heard rumors, Oh there heis, there's the guy. No,
he heard rumors. Just get them. Stop your fucking stop your Twitter
mob, and stop your fucking socialmedia bullshit. I've heard rumors about a
lot of things. I heard rumorswe didn't land on the moon because it's

(54:58):
made of cheese. Make it fuckingsell. No, So how many times
you hurt rumors that I was dead? Earl? Yeah, yeah, thank
you. Here, I am stillkicking. So, I mean, honestly,
I think this is This is arotor shack test. This is a
gut check test for a lot ofpeople. Where are you? Are you?

(55:21):
Are you truly the person you thinkyou are? Or are you a
piece of shit who's gonna fucking lookthe other way? Because Becker Man,
the team, the team, theteam, the block, havin the statue
man, Come on man, fuckyou dude. No. This is why
I can sit and argue with peoplewho I'm friends with and have respect for,

(55:43):
like we hate each other and calleach other horrible names because it's sports.
It doesn't mean anything. This meanssomething. This is real Okay,
sports is entertainment. Yes it meanssomething. Yes, I get it.
It uplifts listen, I understand allthat bout the fucker. If you've been
listening to this show, you hitthat. I think that deep. But
god they come off bad. Butstill but oh, I know get him.

(56:07):
But you know I'm right. Wecan argue about who's the best quarterback
ever, who's the best college footballteam ever? Call each other cocksuckers,
motherfucker's bitches, hose be twenty bitches, and hose doesn't matter. Come,
guys, lining gutters. You everworked at a job with one of your
friends or several of your friends,Ye, same shit. You you lazy

(56:30):
motherfucker, you dumb fuck this andthen you're punching out, Hey, what
are we doing? Yeah, it'slike it's like the meme of five people
they've taken a picture to send somebodywho is out of the country, and
four of the people are holding upa sign and says we love you and
miss you, and it says friends. And at the end the guys hold

(56:51):
up a sign says you're a hugefag and it says best friend. That
may not be the dynamic of yourcircle of friends. That is very much
the dynamic of my circle of friends. It's the dynamic of some of my
friends absolutely. In fact, someof the some of the friends I'm gonna

(57:14):
see today. Actually, hey,you know who's not making any friends?
Chris? What's that? Lebron James? Oh, we're done talking about.
We're not talking about but fucking thankgod? All right, okay, well
we kept it to an hour ofask talk. Well, I mean,
can't just say this. I thinkwe're all on the same page here that

(57:36):
regardless of who you root for,this goes, this transcends that this is
beyond that. And it's not likeif you listen to the show, we
very much appreciate it, but wedon't get much interaction with our fans for
the most part. But if thisis the thing that you disagree with us
that much, I'm comfortable saying this. Maybe Chris isn't because it is his

(57:57):
network. You can go ahead andfuck off. No, I'm not pro
child, fucking No, I'm withyou like we don't. I don't.
We don't need your number, yourunique ip hit that much. Fuck off.
Yeah, I'm fine some time sayingthat. So, yeah, loose
our number. But so Lebron Jamesgotta gotta be there. But you know

(58:19):
what, earl, this is hittingon something we brought up last week.
He's not even in the motherfucking playoffsand he's making the news. How pissed
off if you're one of these teamsstill left and we're not going to talk
about this motherfucker. So he's thebiggest, he's biggest. He's the biggest
story in the NBA right now,well at least because he tashed the NBA
for for starting the playoffs too early, too early they started on time?

(58:44):
Was he like? What I didn'tclick on that story you sent? Like?
Is he talking about the time betweenoff seasons or what he's talking about
the time between the season ending andthe playoffs? Well, it always there's
never a break. Is this hisfirst day? Has he been twenty years?
No, there is a break.They're supposed to be a break.
Well, no, they're never whatNBA are we talking about that? You're

(59:07):
talking about the playoffs that start afterthe regular season ends? Correct? Yeah,
huh, maybe there's what, there'sa few days, but there isn't
never an extended break. Well that'swhat he seems to think. What the
fuck is he talking about, Yeah, you're not you're on You're on a
break, buddy, you're on thegolf course. Look he number one,
and I said it at the startof the show. I'm the fucking nice

(59:30):
man. I call it everyone notyou don't. I don't care that you
said you're shouldn't start of the statYou know what, dude, you play.
You get paid to play a kid'sgame. We say that all the
time. Shut up and fucking dribble. Dude. All right, you lost,
so shut up and swing a coughclub. Go do what you do

(59:50):
in the off season, because nowis that time for you. Like I
did see he's mad about what becausehe's seeing everybody's getting hurt? What is
hold on? I hate when wedo this. Yeah, if I'm a
listener, want to be frustrated.Anthony Davis got hurt and that's why the
LA Lakers are out. Kyrie Urban'shurt and he's out hardened, just came

(01:00:14):
back off an injury. Like really, all these tough mouthfuckers to get paid
to play or you know, gettinghurt left and right to the center,
and it's because they started a seasonearly. The fuck out of here.
Let me do your job. Letme find this story. I want to
know the specifics. Yeah, justso you know, every time you send
a story in the in our chat, it just links you to the app,

(01:00:35):
like it doesn't link to the story. So your phone is weird at
sharing stories. It just okay.So it wasn't who ever wrote this articles
a fucking moron. I'm trying tofind the information. Jesus Christ. He
voiced objections to the quick turnaround betweenthe seasons, so I guess it was

(01:00:58):
the quick turn around because of COVID. Well, yeah, the season finished
in October and they started almost inJanuary. He almost had the same amount
of time. What is his fuckingproblem like at that point, the NBA
Finals run off to me, atthis point I heard there's a Twitter count
by the way that that is strungtogether all of the things he allegedly says

(01:01:20):
he called all of his lies.But I mean the NBA Finals at this
point, Damnar go to July fourthnow, so I mean they're off from
July and then their first game isusually in mid October. So they had
three months and then they finished inOctober, and then they started almost they
started at Christmas, so they startedalmost in January. He almost did the
exact same amount of time. You'retelling me two or three weeks. It

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really is all of these injuries,which I don't know, if you play
with Kyrie before, he always getsinjured Fuco. So I mean it's about
time. It's been the time ofyear for Kyrie to get hurt. It
really is it. It was thatway in Cleveland, it was Boston there
because of him. Was that wayin Boston. Why wouldn't it be that

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way at the nets? He's aninjury prone guy. He's decent when he's
you know, a decent second playerwhen he's on and you know, that's
not accountable guy. That's not aguy you can be like. No matter
what he's showing up. It justseems when he's on the the national when
he's on the big stage, italways seems like he, you know,

(01:02:28):
conveniently gets hurt. Well, Iwant to talk about that, Chris,
and I really do. Serious Therethere's a video you could go look it
up online. It's with um uhfuck what's his name? He was on
the thunder had it Westbrook, Thankyou Westbrook, where he was quote unquote
hurt on the court and then hewas walking off the court, and he

(01:02:51):
got to the tunnel and somebody dumpedsome popcorn on. Okay, and Westbrook
with nuts. He's pulling away fromsecurity, He's jumping in and ready to
go up there and beat the shitout of the guy who dump popcorn on.
And I'm sitting here going weren't youjust on the floor saying OWT?
And now you're running back to thelocker room because you're quote injured. The
fuck are you doing jumping around inthe in the tunnel ready to go beat

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this guy's ass? Are you injuredor not? Maybe Kyrie can't handle the
big stage. It always seems thatthose those convenient moments he gets hurt,
you know, when his team isdeep in the series, you know,
or or on a huge stage inthe playoffs. It seems like, oh,
it's crazy, I'm hurt. Likeit's starting to be a pattern.

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Kyrie just saying, well, it'sstarting to be a pattern, NBA.
I'm just saying it's not just it'sjust not Kyrie. When Anthony Davis got
hurt, he was going up fora dunk and then came down and grabbed
his groin or whatever. But thenwhen he's walking off the court into the
tunnel, He's fine and Brook sameway with Kyrie, same way. I'm

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just seeing a pattern of people going, oh, hurt, I'm hurt,
I gotta go, and they getoff the floor and get near the tunnel
and they're fine, Well, youcan still walk and stuff like that.
I mean, you're you're getting deepinto the weeds here because you gotta remember
too, these guys do have incentiveladen contracts. There is something in it
for them to win. I'm notsaying they're not sore. I'm not saying

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there's not something that needs to betaken care of. But is it so
bad that you have to leave anNBA playoff game? Again? I come
from and I do this with anysport across the board. The old guard,
we're talking about Michael Jordan having thefucking flu so bad that this man
had to have a towel over hishead and sniffing vapors on the sidebark.

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But they've also learned in the lastcouple decades that playing hurt not that good
for you. Playing hurt will domore damage A lot of times. The
balls on the nineties. There isthis thing called medical science. It has
it has evolved but I mean,but whatever Lebron, I mean Lebron,
Lebron isn't Lebron unless he has somethingto complain about. Let's talk about the

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playoffs in general, though, what'sAtlanta Hawks? What? You sat here
and you jerked off? I helpedthe seventy sixers all last week? What
the fuck is going on in Philly? In Game five? They collapsed?
They had it, they had it. Anybody who watches the NBA playoffs knows

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that the Sixers had it and theycollapsed. They just went. I mean
the sports media the next morning wascalling it like like, yeah, they
called it. I saw a collapse. I saw the word choke. I
don't see tenfoil half time. Idon't understand how a team can beat you

(01:05:45):
by twenty points one night and comeout and can't do shit. Nothing's game.
It's called sports man. Are youreally gonna do this? Don't we
usually wait for football season to havethis argument once a year. I'm just
saying, and I just you can'tmake it even close. How many people
would have to be in on adive like that, Like you have to

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have thirteen guys plus the coach staff, Like no, come on, dude,
I don't know, dude, There'sthere's no way to make a dive
like that unless you're an NHL team, and then you're doing it because and
the people say, oh, theytook a dive because they want to win.
If you are that coordinated to takea dive like that, that,

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you are that coordinated to just rollover every like, if you could switch
it on and off like that,then you should be fucking undefeated. See
this is where I need Rich becausehe remembers everybody in the NHL would always
say, oh, they took adive because they want to win the Cup
at home. I never said allthat. You said all that. There
is the fuck you know? Ohremember that bullshit? Oh yeah, they

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lost this game because they wanted towin it at home. No, no,
no, no, professional athletes wantto win it right there. And
trust me, the hookers in Phillywere just as good as the hookers in
Detroit when the Wings won the Cup. Okay, like it doesn't matter.
They're gonna party wherever they're a headallegedly, So I don't know. I
yeah, choke collapse, but that'shappening all around the league though, all

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around the league. It's not justthe sixth Atlanta or or their their competitive
series? Is that in your playbook? Could that be a thing? Does
that exist in your brain? Candefinitely be. How did Chicago Cubs go
from oh and three come back andwin that series? It's competitive? I

(01:07:39):
get it, sports, it happened. How does the Patriots come back from
a mid third quarter twenty eight pointdeficit? It's competitive? So yeah,
competition happens. You get a bighead, you get it in your mind.
These people ain't ship and then allof a sudden they are, And
what do you do? But isn'tthis what the league won with all these

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super teams everywhere? Yeah, thisis exactly what they wanted. And this
is exactly why Lebron should have shutthe fuck up and let them have their
time. To Ron, I mean, k d. Everyone keeps talking about
Lebron's the best player in back basketball. How come no one brings up Kevin
Durant because he kind of proved itthe other night. Dude had a fucking

(01:08:23):
game for the Ages. The manput up fifty I mean forty nine,
but I'm giving him the extra pointand the record books will say forty nine,
But he put up fifty points forreal, did. He just said,
no, Kyrie, no problem,no no, and no James Harden
wasn't it isn't hardened back the nextgame. Hardened came back to that game,
I believe. No, okay hestarted, so it was like half

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a hardened because you know, anytimea guy comes off injury, in most
cases, they don't, you know, explode right away. Yeah, you
want to give them that that field. Get the field back, sir,
get it back. All right,there you go. You look at the
Jazz and the fucking Sun same thing. It's it's not a runaway no more.
You're not going to sit there andgo, oh, well, I

(01:09:08):
don't need to watch this because youknow they're gonna win and we'll just wait
for the next series. Now yougot to actually watch because now you don't
know the money's still in Brooklyn.Almost called them New Jersey, oh,
because they were in New Jersey forever. It's true, but I just I
don't see them. I say,I don't see them if they can stay
healthy, yeah my bad. Itwas the Jazz and the Clippers. People

(01:09:30):
are gonna yell at me for thatone. And it was the Suns of
the Men, and then Kawhi ishurt too. Kawhi is hurt, Yes
he is. He's gonna be outfor like two weeks. See, this
is what's this is As a completeoutsider looking in at the NBA, this
is what's fascinating to me. TheNBA wants parody. They got it.
Apparently this is parody. And nowsomeone who I unarguably was the face of

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the NBA for the better part thelast what almost twenty years, and is
arguably still at least in the considerationas the face of the NBA. I
mean, I don't know, Idon't you know. You say NBA.
It's a casual fan first word probablypop out their mouth. Right now,
Lebron, this is what This isthe world you want, right, This
is the world where everybody has anequal shot at getting something right. Why

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are you bitching when it's not you? Yeah, I don't understand. You
want parody, you want to levelplaying field, you want to make you
know, you want the best torise. Well, you ain't the best
anymore, dude. You're on thedownside of your career. If you can't
admit that, that's a U problem. You've got enough money, get some
fucking therapy and leave us the fuckout of it. Seeing social media,

(01:10:43):
he's talking about it. He's gonnaget revenge on the league next year,
revenge for what shit? What youwas never gonna do. He's never gonna
change his number now he changed,but well, just yeah, it's a
reckoning. Oh really. A reckoningis a settling of a debt, settling

(01:11:03):
of a score that someone did youwrong, so you're going to get justice
from them. What the fuck wasdone wrong to you, Lebron? Look,
look, look, I ain't.I ain't on that Iceman shit,
and I'm still scratching my head goingI get it. If this is your
personal motivation, take the first wordout of that phrase and take it to

(01:11:27):
heart and keep it personal. Runyour mouth after you've done something, Because
you've run your mouth and wrote alot of checks that you haven't cashed over
your career. This threat falls on, to be brutally honest. Probably a
lot of younger player's ears who werelike, yo, I respected you when
you were the beast that was Lebron. But that ain't you no more.

(01:11:48):
Man, I'm out here playing withyou and I can hang with you.
You ain't Lebron anymore. I ain'tsaying he's shack in a fucking Celtics jersey.
But he's closer to that than heis his glory days. He's probably
playing with dudes that were in middleschool when he was doing his decision.
Absolutely kids, they were watching itin middle school. I mean, so

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that's that's the interesting part to me, is just all this crying for fucking
social justice. Well first, youknow, so I'm saying, but just
justice. But you want social justiceaka everything even well sports isn't that.
But since you want to shoehorn itin there, this is what you get.
I'm not crying. It's like afarmer crying because chickens came home to

(01:12:39):
roost. That's what they do.They gotta swim. Bro, this is
the world you want. This isthe world you piss and moan about unless
it defends China on social media thatyou you claim to want. Now you
got it. Now it's a problem. Make some money. Well, I
mean it's just to me, it'sjust it's like you are. You're not

(01:13:01):
real Lebron and he's never been real. He's not a killer on the court,
he doesn't have that. I wantto stick the dagger and watch the
life drain from your eyes. AsI twist it in your heart that Jordan
and Kobe and Shack and Isaiah andMagic and Bird and I and Iverson and
etc. Had He doesn't. He'sproven it. That is not up for

(01:13:26):
debate. And if it is,you're a fucking Lebron slappy. You're lathering
up in Lebron Butter do That's fine, but I know, but yeah,
you want his nut butter guzzle itdown. I don't. I'm fine with
that. Put on your toast,but I'm gonna tell you what I know.
I'm gonna put you over there.And by over there, I mean

(01:13:47):
in the group of people's opinions whoI give less than a fuck about it.
Because you've proven, you've shown yourtrue colors. You're suspect, I
mean completely from an outsider's point ofview. And I've defended Lebron on this
show. When Earl gets on hisfucking there ain't nothing to defend here.
What are you upset about? Thisis literally a ten year old child coming

(01:14:09):
up to their father and hitting theirfather because they're uncomfortable going dad, I
love you and giving him a hug. But if he feels he hits him,
well, I'll get attention. It'slike you're throwing a temper tantrum.
Bro, you didn't get your way. You didn't win. Boo fucking who.
In a society full of your verytwisted, misguided, fucking philosophy of

(01:14:30):
social justice, there's a whole lotof losers and not many winners. It
ain't really that different than fucking anyother thing. You just feel better about
it because, well, this teamhas a shot, and this team has
a shot. Okay. I justdon't get what Debitchen's about, is it?
And I l I guess I right? Yeah, Oh, you're an

(01:14:53):
apology. You've said many times he'sa fucking sore loser, and I'm like,
I'm like, bro, show mea graceful loser, and I'll show
you someone who's okay with losing.Is that what losing sounds like? No,
that's what losing sounds like. BradPitt baby smashing the radio. I

(01:15:15):
was wrong. I apologize you wereabsolutely. I didn't. I didn't realize
how deep that fucking bullshit sore losershit ran, and I mean it ran
deep in Jordan too. Jesus fuckingChrist. Last year we had the documentary
and he's talking about shit that happenedin high school and this fucking and I
took that personally that became a meanstill many still man, he's almost sixty

(01:15:38):
thing and you you said it rich. He doesn't have that Michael Jordan dagger.
Michael Jordan would hold he wouldn't gobrag or piss himan about somebody and
what they said or did or didn'tdo on the court. He would hold
that and he would hold it insideand the next time he fucking saw him,
he just run up. He wouldruck. I bet at the height

(01:16:01):
of his career he sent something tothat basketball coach that that cut him like
a present. But I bet hepete on it, for he sent it.
He's got that. He seems likethat type of dude, like y'all
send the Rolex that I pete onbecause fuck you for cutting me in ninth
grade. I don't care if I'mhoisting up my sixth trophy right now.
But I'll tell you this, withhim out, with him being lebron out,

(01:16:27):
so many, so many are rising. All right, we got three
series still going today. I thinkthe Nets ended. I don't think the
Bucks have it to take it tohis seven game series. Chris, you
don't think the reigning MVP Giannis whoeverthe knows, what the fuck? Oh,
it's gonna it's gonna help him pullit out the Greek free Now,

(01:16:49):
I think it ends tonight. Whatdo you think, Oh, I think
the Nets are the team to beat. I don't, I do not.
I think I think hard. Ithink you got hardened into rant fun.
Have fun with that, Rich.Do you have any input on these None
of my own. I'll just saythat a surprising amount of people on local

(01:17:10):
sports talk, I think the Jazzwill win it. Okay, it's a
joke that I'm not getting, butlike I'm like, the Jazz are still
in the playoffs. Oh yeah,it's difficult. Hang on, uh,
seventy Sixers Hawks. That's tomorrow,Game six. I don't think. I
think. I think the Sixers win. Okay, but it'd have to go

(01:17:30):
to a game seven, and Ithink it does go to a game seven
and the Sixers win. Yeah.Yeah, I think overall the Sixers win.
I think that team is much betterthan the Atlanta Hawks. I have
no idea who's on the Hawks.Last famous Atlanta Hawkeye name Okay, it's
a name I know. That's anathlete I just throw it out there.
You'll get it all right, andthen for a second, never mind,

(01:17:54):
No I was wrong, go ahead. The other series is the Jazz and
the Hippers. Uh, sorry toyour friends there, Rich. The Jazz
don't have the Chazz don't have itto take the Clippers to Game seven.
Yea, don't think. I thinkwith no Kauhi, man, I think
it's I think the Yazz could pullit out with no Kauhi. Yeah,

(01:18:15):
Kai's out for two weeks, man, he ain't. It Ain't like he's
gonna be like Dennis Robbin on thesidelines with ice pack and a fucking trampoline.
He's gonna be in his fucking suitfor two weeks. Man. I
gotta think that the Clippers have enoughwith PG thirteen and and the rest of
the rondo and all of them.I think the leadership is gonna end it

(01:18:35):
because they'll know what happens. Anythinghappens in the game seven, no matter
what it is, Basketball, NHL, does not matter. They'll want to
end it tonight, all right,tomorrow. I think Clippers end it and
go on Sporte quctopermedia dot net,qucto Formedia dot net, sporty Now Here's

(01:19:00):
why I don't think that the Netsare the team to be sitting at home
right now. Chill it. ThePhoenix Suns just up and swept the Nuggets,
Oh damn, Like just ran throughthem like Dan great hot knife through
butter. Yeah. But remember,remember we've seen this. Sometimes you can

(01:19:24):
rest too much. We've seen thisin countless countless NBA series. We've seen
it happen. But I think thisteam needs that rest. And I'm gonna
tell you this team real quick.Some people you'll know, Jay Crowder,
Devin Booker, Chris Paul Sarah.Yeah. But I mean it's remember we
were talking about their thing they hadon their side was momentum. This rest

(01:19:44):
stops that momentum. Man, butthere, but their series is over,
Homie. They don't know, Iknow, but you know what I'm saying,
like an extended period of rest.I mean this could. I don't
think they're gonna I don't think they'regonna sweep the next series because the next
series one of the teams we werejust talking about, it's gonna be a
competitive series, which is good.But that's being said. Do you give

(01:20:05):
them boys that I just named,a decent amount to catch up anything that
wasn't hurt, was a little bitsore, and then come at you full
force. They're gonna start another roleof momentum. I'm telling now, if
they if the Clippers, when Ido think they take the Clippers without Kawhi,
Yeah, that's a bold Wait holdon, there you go. It's

(01:20:27):
official. It's a hot take.Kawhi Leonards do I is hashtake good at
basketball? All right? If you'veseen the man play like he's really fucking
good, he's a bit good,Yes he is. I just I think
that's the team. I think ifif you meet the Phoenix Suns and you

(01:20:51):
beat the Phoenix Ons, you winthe championship. This year, Oh championship
goes to Phoenix and they're not evendefending. That's where I'm at. Those
boys have I don't know if it'sa chip, I don't know if he's
a coach. Uh No, that'sI don't know. I wanted to say
Steve Nash, but he's over inthe nuts line. Yeah. People were

(01:21:13):
mad when he got Yeah, everyonewho's mad when he got the job of
shutting the fuck up? Now?Huh yeah? Because he was a white
guy. Black men can't coach theNBA and Doc Riverson. What the fuck
are you talking about? Exactly,Monty Williams bro I'm telling you when it
comes to Phoenix Suns, they don'teven need a coach right now. That

(01:21:35):
team is stellarified. And I'm tellingyou they're out to prove something. I
don't know what it is. Thisis a cast off of a lot of
different teams in Phoenix. A lotof people that I named came from a
lot of different Tell you I'm gettingI'm getting a going to work Pistons vibe
from this team, like you know, I really am. With the exception

(01:21:57):
of Chris Paul, a bunch oflike all right, you know, a
bunch of a bunch of also rangeyou never really heard of. Put them
all together, Boom Championship team.No, even Chris Paul is an also
ran. But he got kicked aroundthe NBA. But you've heard his name
before, I guess is what I'mgetting at, right, But he got
kicked around the NBA. I didn'thear about anybody in that starting Pistons lineup
with Ben Wallace until they got here. I didn't know who Chaunty Billips was.

(01:22:20):
I didn't know Wallace. I didn'twell she came later. But you
know, I didn't know who TayshaunPrince was. I didn't know who you
know what I'm saying. He wasrookie, Like, I didn't know who
these guys were. And then JackHamilton everybody knew from the Wizards, but
yeah, I didn't know who fuckhe was. But the go to work
Pistons is you're straight on. Chrisis exactly like the Suns right now because

(01:22:45):
they were cast off from people's teamsthat were like, you're not good enough,
You're not gonna win a championship withus. And they got into Detroit
and was like, really watch thisship. And that's exactly what Phoenix is
doing. Jay Crowder was on Bostonforever. Chris Paul has literally been all
around the league, from the Thunderto the Clippers and now to the Phoenix

(01:23:06):
Suns. I think he stopped acouple other places. It seems like every
couple of years as a trade thatcomes up with his name in it.
Yeah, it just is a wildmoment. You're absolutely right. You believe
in the sun, your son worshipper. I am my son worshipper. He
believes in the Sun because he couldsee it, but not at night.
These guys are absolutely to go towork pistons reincarnated. It's kind of it's

(01:23:31):
kind of ironic that you have likethe most Okay, let me walk that
back for a second. Some ofthe most overlooked teams in recent NBA history
are the teams that five very uniqueindividuals came together to form in this metaphor
one strong fist that just punched theNBA in the face. And those are

(01:23:55):
the teams that are forgotten. Andof course I mean, because I'm hearing
Detroit my bias, I'm thinking eightynine ninety pistons and to go to work
pistons are almost completely erased from thehistory books. The only time that the
original bad boy Pistons are brought upis the bad mouth them when talking great

(01:24:15):
about Magic or Michael or whoever thefuck and all these all these players who
grew up and all this collectivism andyou know, we're you know, tribalism.
You figure the NBA would be celebratingthese teams, wouldn't they They would
be you would be hearing about you'resaying, the Phoenix reminds you to go

(01:24:35):
to work pistons. Why aren't theypumping holding them up as the shining example
of see this is working together forthe greater good because because say it,
Chris, because you know what I'mgoing for. Well, because they're gonna
be so pissed because they want theClippers or the fucking Nets have to win
it, because one of the superteams has to win it. If this

(01:24:58):
team wins, that it's fucking thenthat whole superteam theory just gets shut all
over. Like the superteam theory fliesin the face of the fucking ideology.
They're pumping out and painting under goddamnfucking courts and they're having these fucking players
talk about I talk about on Twitterand shit, it's like that. So

(01:25:19):
I don't understand communism, collectivism.We don't like team sports. You don't
like working together towards one greater goalgood. That's ironic, Okay, Like
to those of us who've actually readthe works of Marx, it's a little
strange, but okay, sure.And it's like, I mean, that's

(01:25:39):
what I don't understand. Like howas a outsider, all I'm hearing about
is from the NBA, and Ipurposely put myself on the outside of the
NBA so I can have this opinionon this podcast. Otherwise I just go
fucking smoke cigarettes while you guys bullshitabout the NBA. All I hear about
is Lebron and how Lebron's not gonnawin this year. That's that's what I

(01:26:00):
hear. I don't. If itwasn't for taking an active interest and sitting
down to listen to a segment aboutthe NBA playoffs, I wouldn't even know
clue was in. Who's playing?Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
And it's like it took a deepdive from a from a local sports host
who's obsessed with basketball. I thinkit, well, no, college football

(01:26:21):
is his number one sport, butit's like one A, one B.
And then it's basketball and he's like, we're going to talk basketball. I
don't care if no one calls in. We're going to talk basketball. And
that's how and still what dominates it. I'm not hearing about this. I
didn't hear about the Suns at all. I heard about the Jazz because when

(01:26:42):
his co hosts made the statement,I think the Jazz could win at all,
and then people started calling in agreen. I heard about the Nets.
I heard about Lebron. That's itfor a forty five minute segment.
About thirty eight minutes Chris with commercials. Yeah, so yeah, there you
go. It's one of those things, and it's it's exactly what they did
to them. Go to work Pistons. Now here's the irony rich to what

(01:27:03):
you're saying about to go to workPistons and the bad boys, the famed
nineties Bulls. They say that thenineties Bulls team like it was the same,
five fucking guys. It wasn't theBulls. The famed nineties Bulls was
the biggest revolving door I've ever seen. That's why I always say Michael Jordan

(01:27:24):
is the greatest player who ever lived. He could win it with anybody.
He did win it with anybody.It was this gets lost. Pippin was
by his side the whole time.Everybody else changed around him and five due
it was Batman and Robin seriously witha rotating cash playing catwoman Batwoman and the

(01:27:51):
joke that's a villain whatever, Alfred, there you go, fucking lead people
in the Batman. Batman don't havea lot of friends, and you really
started it's his lifestyle, I know, right, I know and if Aaron
was here, he'd be like,I don't know sh about sports, but
Rich, that's a comic book,nerd sin you just committed. That's onlike

(01:28:13):
page one, do not do?And like, I know, I know,
I forgot to check the manual.Well, okay, are you guys?
Yes, you guys got your fullof NBA or does Earl have some
more? Well, I mean,wellbron sucks for minutes. I'm gonna get
another cigarette. I'd like to befine because we're up against Rock does suck.
But let's tuck NHL. Let's talkabout I'm sorry, I gotta I

(01:28:35):
gotta throw you guys in audible.Oh uh, here's the deal. Um
uh both series Tide one one Go, Islanders Go Nights. Uh, Canadians
Lightning can fuck off. That's aboutmy take for right now. What I
do want to talk about is somethingthat's actually going on in sport that's being
played in the regular season and isaffecting the sport, which is these pictures

(01:29:00):
using tactile substances to essentially glue theirfingers to the ball and generating sometimes upward
of six seven hundred more RPMs andour throw. Oh you're talking about Yeah,
I'm a spider, spider guns orwhatever. They Yeah, basically back
in the day for the uninitiated,back in the day, to get your

(01:29:24):
fingers a little tack you so youcan hold onto the ball players would go
to their mouth, go to therosin bag, mix the two and it
gives them a little It's not likestick thems like you know, like from
the Replacements or the nineteen seventies fuckingNFL. It's not that shit, but
it just gives you a better grip. Well, they've taken it to another

(01:29:45):
level because I guess COVID you can'tgo to your mouth, So they were
coming up with other ways and they'remixing like sunscreen and other stuff to come
up with this like substance that theycould use that's technically not banned, but
it's an illegal substance. It's justthey haven't banned because the end result is

(01:30:06):
can be made so many different ways. They haven't banned individually. It's like
when you go into a head shopand they got the cracker over here,
and then on the other side theyhave the co two cartridges and then weigh
in the back they have the balloons. If you know how all three of
those fit together, you're going tohave a good time. If you don't,
you're like, why the fuck isthere a cracker co, two cartridges

(01:30:27):
and balloons here? Well, I'msure it's like being a murderer and going
to home depot, right, everything, everything you need, it's there.
Yeah, And I mean, andthere's there's clubhouse guys who apparently are like
mad scientists at concocting this stuff,to the point where players have who switched
teams have tried to get the clubhousemanager to come with them to the new

(01:30:54):
team, especially pitchers, pitchers whoget big contracts, et cetera, et
cetera. Now, from what Iunderstand, MLB has finally said, okay,
enough is enough, because they actually, because of all the technology we
have, we can actually measure howmany RPMs a ball that a picture throws

(01:31:15):
is spinning, and there is ai mean clear increase. Then the NBA
or a ton of no hitters thisyear. Yeah, and there's already been
six or seven and it isn't awhole league in like two hundred Oh yeah,
oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, AndI'll get to that in a second,

(01:31:39):
because there's something else that that factorsin because you gotta remember, ultimately,
this is a business and the leagueswant to protect their brand. So
what MLB did is they basically said, we're gonna start check. We're gonna
check for this substance in the minersstarted in the miners that announcement, all
of a sudden, RPMs started droppingon a lot of pictures their pitches.

(01:32:00):
Then MLB said, at the beginningof next month, they're going to start
checking pictures coming off the mound,their belts, their hat brims, any
place that they could put their substance, and if they get caught with it,
they get a ten game suspension paid. But you still that's I don't
know with the picture. I'm imaginethat means you missed two starts. I

(01:32:23):
can't imagine it means ten starts becausethat's what almost a fifth of their season
as far as starts. That's yeah, I'm with yeah, you know what
I'm saying. So what was thatpicture's name? To beat the shit out
of the old guy for um inbeat shell paper Martinez, Yeah, Don
Martinez. DoD Zimmer thought he wasyoung for a second, ran up on

(01:32:45):
Pedro and Pedro was like, ohhey, and through the old, he
tied Cheeda, He's like whoa,whoa, whoa. Pedro Martinez was on
the four letter at work and saidthat he uh, it was it was
made fun of because it was itwas a joke, but it wasn't a

(01:33:08):
joke when he said it, butit was turned into a joke that he
wanted his balls rubbed out by whohe wanted his balls rubbed out by?
And if his balls weren't rubbed out, he wouldn't throw I bet yes,
the easy jokes, right, easyjokes, but it made it made its
point to what you're saying, Rich, that if if it wasn't rubbed out

(01:33:30):
by who he wanted it rubbed outby, he couldn't get his because Pedro
Martinez arguably a very one of thebest. There's a lot of people that
consider him the best picture ever.Yeah, right, so he could get
his movement on the ball by howand who rubbed it out, whether he
put stuff on it, whether youknow, well, I mean for hearing

(01:33:53):
Detroit, we don't have to goback very far. Well, shit,
it's been fifteen years. Goddamn,yeah, no time. Why like a
motherfucker, Okay, I guess,I guess go back dude, go back
longer than my buddies children have alllived and uh and they're not newborns either.

(01:34:13):
Anyways, go back to two thousandand six in the World Series when
Kenny Rodgers was on the mound andthe pine tar thing. Pine tar was
used to give them to help themget grip and extremely cold weather. It's
kind of common, but it's likeit's a gray area. It's like it's
against the rules. And bro,you were like, if you do it
to where it's not like obvious,fine, but you're on National TV game

(01:34:39):
one of the World Series and theship smeared on your arm to where it
looks like you someone took a blackmarker and was drawing on you. Come
on, now, was I understandfor pictures? But remember the famous you
know, George Brett pine tar.What's the purpose of it on the bat?
See? I don't think there wasa purpose for it on the bat.

(01:35:00):
I think it was just to gethim called out because I don't In
other words, I know there's arule you can't have pine tar above a
certain point of above your handle onyour bat, but I don't know why
the rules there. And I thinkthey just said, hey, that looks
like his pine tar's going over gethim called out on a technicality. But
I'm sure at one point there wasthere's a rule you can't run the bases

(01:35:23):
backwards because you had players who wouldrun the bases backwards. You actually you
indirectly answered it for me. Didyou put it on the handle? I'm
like, why the fuck? BecauseI always remember the players rubbing it on
like the fucking barrel of the bat, And I'm thinking, why the fun
would you put it on there?But no, put you put on the
hand? Stick to it? Youcan't. Yeah, no, the handle
now makes sense? All right?Yeah? Oh okay, I thought you

(01:35:45):
meant like, I don't know whythe rules there probably some eighteen hundreds,
somebody did something that they were like, Okay, we're gonna get rid of
this. That's that's why it's likebaseball. Look, baseball rules have changed
constantly. Used to be all ballsweren't strikes, and there were guys who
had like a swing in a missratio of like sub twenty percent. So

(01:36:09):
imagine how long those games went,you know what I'm saying. Like,
seriously, they changed the rule becauseone guy was so good at falling off
balls at bats would take twenty pluspitches. I mean, dude, it's
half an hour. Let's go.And I mean this is the day back
in the day when pitchers, youknow, would pitch every four days and

(01:36:32):
you went until they absolutely had topull you. They didn't want to pull
you, they had to pull you. Like there's a I think the MLB
record is like fifty nine wins inone season. That goes back to the
eighteen hundreds, So I mean,like they were. It was the why
literally the wild West out there,you know, especially the minor leagues,
the smaller leagues. So I getout, you know, like it's this

(01:36:56):
It's natural for rules to change andthings to pop up. I just think
this is fascinating because this is theantithesis of what fucking MLB wants. MLB
wants the homers, the triples,the fucking high scoring games. It's rare
to meet a younger person who's abaseball fan, period. It's even more

(01:37:18):
rare to meet a younger person who'sbaseball fan who appreciates a pitchers duel.
So yeah, this is get upand go take a piss baseball. Quite
honestly, I love it. I'mgonna get another Tier Baseball because I'm gonna
as much as I reference that,you gotta you gotta give it to Major
League they called it. Whenever Iwant to put a little extra in the

(01:37:38):
ball, I just drop a littlehall opeen you in my nose? Oh
that was yeah, that's that's totallybased off the fucking reality. Dude,
that's Phil necro fucking not on aball. Oh yeah, what hey,
I ain't got the arm like you. Whatever gives me a couple extra inches
a break, And see that's whatI'm saying, Like, that's I appreciate

(01:37:59):
the pitchers because my favorite picture ofall time is Bob Gibson. And yes,
I know that. You know I'msupposed to hate him because through osmosis,
because I'm a Tigers fan and atsixty eight they played the Tigers and
Gibson dominated the Tigers. But that'sone of the reasons I love them,
because one that motherfucker took no shiton the mound, walk him and he'd
hit the batter, and the managercome out, what the fuck you hit

(01:38:20):
him for? He goes, whywould I waste four pictures when I can
put him on with one. I'mlike, that's my man. That's me.
That's me, and that's me.That's my mentality on a picture mound.
Now see my favorite ability time.I gotta give it. It always
has been, it always will besince the moment I saw this motherfucker the
big unit. Oh, I getit. I totally get it. I

(01:38:43):
understand. And here's the thing.I tried documentary on you. I watched
it. I know I haven't.Are we done? Okay, No,
I'm not done. I'm gonna talkingnot be in charge for a little bit,
thank you very much. All right. So I just watched a documentary
on YouTube about him, and it'spost retirement. He's he's like, it's

(01:39:05):
following like what he was doing,and it goes back into his career and
he swears up and down. He'slike, look at the scouting reports,
go back and look at my minorleague footage. I could always throw hard.
I just didn't know where it wasgoing. I seriously, Rick Vaughn
was just yeah, he was like, I wasn't if I threw at you,

(01:39:28):
you knew it most of the time. And most of the time people
think I was trying to intimidate picturesor batters. I was like, well,
I don't know where he's going.He's like and it's like, yeah,
but it slipped and you're throwing onehundred miles per hour, bro Like
throw or forget the video, andanybody who's listening, any anybody who hasn't
seen it, watch the bird.Everybody's had just seen that dude by now

(01:39:55):
with the internet. If you ifyou watch it and you've seen it,
that's great because everybody watches the bird, do two things. Number One,
after the feather's explosion, look atthe catcher. Number one, watch it
and look just at the catcher throughthe whole thing. Because the catcher sitting
there with his mit and he's readyand he knows it's coming, and it's

(01:40:16):
coming high, and then all ofa sudden, the catcher just chumps up
and rips his mask off and backsup, like did he just make the
balls blow? The fuck? Didthat thing break the sound barrier? What
happened there? Do to watch thecatcher. It's the funniest part of that
video. The fucking bird is numbertwo. The bird is off to the

(01:40:39):
left, if you can find itoff to the left, just flopping around
in the backstop. Okay, Butif you watch just the catcher, he
pulls his mask off, it startsback and away like and he just fucking
made the baseball go both. Yeah, that's some natural shit, Like the
casing came off the motherfucker. Howdo you do that? At least you

(01:41:00):
get it with a bat in thatmovie? What the fuck? Okay,
But look the point of bringing upBob Gibson and and and hey, Randy
Johnson two whatever, they both workas examples. The ship on your fingers
ain't gonna help you throw harder,but it will give you break. And
if you watch Bob Gibson's twelve sixcurveball, it literally looks like there is

(01:41:24):
a shot from the sixty eight WorldSeries where he throws a twelve six that
breaks right through the strike zone andends right below the strike zone. And
I want to say it's cat normCash whiffs on it and looks like a
fucking four year old at a tball game first time holding the baseball bat,

(01:41:45):
and that ball drops like it rolledoff the edge of the table.
I mean it is, but it'sgoing eighty seven miles per hour. It's
coming straight. And then I meanit had to have at least nine ten
inches of rop to it. That'swhat this ship does, gives your ball
movement, makes it harder to pickup and read because obviously you're trying to

(01:42:09):
you're trying to read the ball,and you learn the spin of the ball.
If it's coming in like this,it's this because coming in with no
spin, it's a knuckle or aknuckle curve, depending on what the repertoire
is. So you get my point. That's what's making these pictures good.
Ironically, it's making it more interestingfor me to watch baseball, but no
one else is happy. But italso makes me question people like Max and

(01:42:36):
no, no, no, dude, you're wrong, wrong, you're you're
right, you're barking up. You'rehitting on a lesbian. You got the
right instinct. She's fine, butshe ain't fine for your team. Bro.
You need to come up into thisfucking new decade, because what is
it, Trevor Bauer is it's apicture that just signed a huge contract.

(01:42:59):
Yeah, okay from the and hewas on the Reds last year or whatever.
Yeah, his spin, his RPMrate has gone off the fucking charts.
The only pitcher who's RPM rate hasstayed the same since that announcement by
MLB is de Grob because the Gromand I just watched Chris rose pod or

(01:43:21):
well listen to his podcast. Hehad to grow him on not that long
ago, and to grow and notto Groum. He had James mccannon who
used to catch for the Grom ordoes still if he's with the I don't
know where he's at. Anyways,he's talking about catching the grab and he's
like, it's the dude's a videogame. The dude is literally point set
or choose your pitch, select itand then you just throw it. There

(01:43:45):
he goes, and he does nineof the time. He throws it right
where I tell him too. ButI've never worked Mets who cares. Doesn't
matter and Sandy Kofax played for nineyears is one of the greatest pitchers to
ever do. It doesn't fucking matter, dude, various career lasted ten years.
It could have went easily another threeor four. Yeah, it doesn't
matter, doesn't change anything. Okay, he's still has the ball. I'm

(01:44:10):
not gonna lie Jake de Graham hasa ball. But what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is is that thisis what's unusual about this is granted they're
being very proactive. There was alot of bitching and complaining about this,
a lot of fucking the sports culturesurrounding the culture surrounding sports. We're complaining
about this, and MLB walked inand said, we're going no if this,

(01:44:31):
this is a bud clearly in needof nipping, and we're doing it.
Well. They still got the stinkof Houston on him, like they
don't want to get caught again,and good, good, look, good
people. I can't blame the playersfor trying to get an advantage by stretching
or muddy in the waters. Inthe rule book, that's kind of what
you do, right, You pushthe envelope. Right, that's called playing

(01:44:53):
with an edge. If he's onyour team, he's called scumbag if he's
on the other team. There's awhole chapter in the Bill Belichick fucking handbook
about it. So that's fine,and no one's being killed. It's just
like people about steroids. They're onlykilling themselves. And if they're willing to
die for me to be more entertained, I'm smart enough to watch it.

(01:45:14):
I'm fine with that. It's yourbody, do what the fuck you want.
Riches, I don't care. Richis invoking. Are we not entertained?
Pretty much? Right? I mean, but this goes back to my
question. I I blew him up. I said it was amazing, But
was it or was it that substancewith Clayton Kershaw? Because I showed you

(01:45:39):
his his drop and I said,this is so unfair, no I because
the people looked like it was goingat him and then just funk. You're
missing You're missing the point of whatI'm saying though, And you're missing the
point of the story because you're you'refocusing on the sexy part. You want
the fucking sizzle, but you're missingthe steak. Bro. This only started

(01:46:00):
this season. They were able beforelast season to use spit and rosin,
and that's what they was the acceptedway to get a better grip on the
ball. So yes, their ballsback then did have more break because of
a quote unquote foreign substance, butit was one allowed by baseball because of
COVID. They told him to stopgoing into their mouth. They had to

(01:46:24):
come up with a substitution. Sonow they're inventing shit. It's even more
sticky and tacky than spitt and rosin. That's the story, and what's happening
after it. Stop trying to shoehornpeople you know their name into the story.
Ain't gonna do with it, dude, Okay, Jesus, stop trying
to make fetch happen. Stop fuckingdoing information dumps. We get it.

(01:46:47):
You'll watch baseball. We all do. Okay, Now, I was just
asking the question if he was usingthat. I didn't. Of course they
are. They were fucking using pinetar or whatever was acceptable with or or
look the other way, or anunwritten rule that like, you don't really
call somebody on it because all ofthe pictures do it, and if your
guy's doing it, you can't reallyfucking go after the other guy for doing

(01:47:10):
it. That's an unwritten rule inbaseball. Everybody does. Literally. I've
watched podcasts after podcast with current MajorLeague Baseball players hitters on shows going I
don't really want to comment because I'mgonna piss off our pictures no matter what
I say. He's like, andand it was one host, one host
it is Chris Rose had the ballsto be like, so everybody does it,

(01:47:30):
and he's like, infer what youwill from that. That tells me
all I need to know. Imean, if you want to break down
of the fucking stats, and youwant to go old school stats, you
know, like three slash stats,batting obiit, you know on base blah
blah. You want to go thatstark Raving Sports YouTube. Shout out to
stark Raving Sports. I don't.They probably have a podcast, but they

(01:47:53):
have a YouTube channel, easily digestedten fifteen minute videos. He breaks down
and explains to you if and hedoesn't do it in a condescending you're an
asshole for not knowing this way thatso many people who rely who are very
much in the metrics side of thebaseball stats argument. He explains it to
you, and he never talks downto you, and you start to understand,

(01:48:15):
oh oh, I'm starting to understandthis stat now. Okay, so
shout out to them, man,seriously, if you're not if I've rejected
the whole saber metrics thing because I'mjust like, it's all bullshit. It's
really not. It's just you haveto understand the context it's being used,
and it's way too much to gointo with only a handful of minutes left

(01:48:38):
on this show, if you guyswant me to go into it on another
But he breaks it down, dude, he shows you before COVID, well
not before before this season pitcher,same pitch, same mechanics, same point
of release, everything is exactly thesame, frame by frame by frame boom,

(01:48:58):
look at the spin on that.I mean. And so my question
is, I mean, are youguys cool MLB going, Come on,
guys, don't be dicks about it. We get it, you can't use
the tried and true spitting in rosinbag method. We understand that. But
come on, dude, seriously,or are you guys like fuck it?
Let him do it? Uh?As being an old school I fuck it,

(01:49:21):
let him do it. I mean, it's that's that's part of the
game. It's been part of thegame. And he stated here in this
whole ramp, it's it's what theydo. It's like readily available stuff,
right. I mean, it's notlike stuff they gotta. It's not like
when you know Peyton Manning was havingshit and mail to his fucking house,
right. I mean, it's liketo what if it's like sunscreen and like,

(01:49:43):
yeah, it's clubhouse stuff. So, I mean, I mean we're
definitely in the gray area here.But well, I mean, here's my
concern if this came about because ofCOVID and you can't go to your mouth.
Okay, once we get past thetipping point, so I mean,
fuck it, Let's say two seasonsin the future. They go, all

(01:50:04):
right, you've went three Christmases andwhole years and horrible fucking weather and haven't
had another outbreak COVID. You cango back to go near your mouth.
Why would pitchers go back if thisoffers so much better of an alternative,
But it also gives them that advantage. That's my concern. Like, this
isn't for getting attacked, they're not. It's not being used to just have

(01:50:28):
a tacky grip on the ball.It's being used to give them an advantage.
You see what I'm saying, Like, because if you grab the ball
with resonance, spit, it's nowherenear as tacky as this stuff, nowhere
near. It just helps it.So it's like if you have a delicate
grip on the ball where you're holdingit with your fingertips, it doesn't slip
out of your fingers because it's leatherand it's smooth. Well, well,
hitters learn to Hitters learn to hitthese pitches eventually, and that's what one

(01:50:53):
of the That's what one of thebatters said. They asked him, and
he said, Baseball is a gameof adjustments, you know. Sometimes that's
it's adjusting your batting stance, adjustinghow you tap your foot when you wave
your bat, because it's all timingand in your timing is individual to you,
and your adjustments have to be withinyourself. So if you see that
a ball's coming with more spin,you either have to rely on being able

(01:51:16):
to pick up what that ball isand recognize it even with the more revolutions,
or you have to adjust your youknow, approach it to play,
or most likely you're gonna have touse every skill and in your skill set
your availability to make adjustments and playbetter, play at the level you did
before that. That's what he said. And I'm like, that's true.

(01:51:40):
I'm going, I'm about and he'stalking this motherfucker. I can't remember the
player's name. I'm sorry, it'sit's he's a hitter on Miami. Um
his name is Miguel, So Iremember his first name. That's it?
Sorry, sorry, but sure whatever, I'm sure, Um somehow it is.
But uh, I was he needsthat he needs to be a manager
or coach someday, because when hewas explaining it, I was flashing back

(01:52:04):
to little league and he was explainingit better than my little league coach.
And I played a little league underthe same coach for three years, so
I was like, you know,wow, yeah, I don't mean nothing.
Just means I played in the sameshitty That's it. That's all it
means. An it's an ironic.Oh I'm deserved, it's an ironic oo.

(01:52:26):
But so see now, to me, this is like, if it
comes out they've been doing this before, this shit like league wide, then
I'm gonna have to go, well, then, what the fuck is everybody's
excuse why all of a sudden thereare all these RPMs happening now or increases
happening now, if everybody's been doingthis for and I'm wrong, earl,
which means I have to owe youanother apology on there. And you know,

(01:52:48):
I thought, I next week comesout all they've been doing this for
twenty years. Oh well, whatthe fuck? It didn't didn't explain to
me what the difference is, thenI don't care, do it? That
was it. Miguel Rojas ro Ashe was just on Chris Chris rose's a
show. It was like from thesixth Like I said, it's been part

(01:53:11):
of the game. Let it bepart of the game. Pitchers find a
way to pitch, Batters find away to hit. It's just that I
I dude, I can't disagree.And here now this is just strictly purely
the society we live on. Ina comment about MLB protecting their brand,
remember I said, this is theantithesis of what they want. They don't

(01:53:32):
want pitchers, duels, they don'twant low scoring games. Uh excuse me.
In MLB the Show, this year'sonly licensed video game you can get
on consoles. They have constant updatesevery week about player boost and stuff like
that. And if this player didthis really well, then you can get

(01:53:55):
this special card and his stats areboosted and all this and it to be
getting when it first came out thisseason, all pictures, this story broke.
They're pushing hitters like you can't believe. There's hardly any pictures in last
months fucking moments, you know whatI'm saying, from from from a whole
month, And I'm like, yeah, they're like, hey, we know
the product on the field is notas exciting as you want, but we're

(01:54:18):
gonna make sure your video game staysexciting. And I'm like, that's not
even conspiracy theory, that's just goodmarketing. And you're telling me if I'm
thinking of it, that these billionaireshaven't thought of it. That run EA
sports, get the fuck out ofhere, that run MLB. So that's
how you know that this shit islike you know what I'm saying, like
little like it's a little bit biggerthan fucking just Okay, they're getting an

(01:54:41):
advantage they didn't have before meatballers.Yeah, d dude, we do some
football scores, let's go. Yeah, if attendance put up, Yeah,
we want crooked numbers every inning,not straight number. You know. The
one thing you gotta one thing yougotta watch for, though, is you
don't want people to start thinking juicethen no a conventure stops being able to

(01:55:02):
break it. Dude, I'm gonnabe honest with you. The real baseball
heads I talked to are all like, the course, they're still juicing.
They're just doing shit. We haven'tfigured out how to test or or found
out how to catch them yet.The league doesn't know him. Yeah,
yeah, that's all it is,especially since the millions that are online.
The line for these guys contracts now, they learned from the Jose Casaco players

(01:55:25):
generation keep your mouth shut. It'sgonna take dead serious. It's gonna take
a fucking like Jim Bowden or JoseCan Saco to come out for us to
even know what the fuck was reallygoing on now, because dude, you
don't hear that shit what the playerstalk about like sports, The reporting around
sports back then was what are theplayers on? How do they get this

(01:55:48):
big blah blah blah blah blah.Now it's social media doing you know,
podcasts, uh hot takes on socialtopics, et cetera, et cetera.
There's hardly any talk of like clubhousestuff. And believe me, every league
loves that, every oh absolutely absolutely. But if if the pitchers have to

(01:56:14):
stop being able to break the balland get the curve that they usually get
and these hitters are knocking them outthe stadium on record setting paces, that
talk is going to come back up. You want to make sure it stays,
and don't ship. I get whathe's I get what he's saying,
rich, Yeah, I got Igot you. Yeah yeah. Sorry,
kind of misunderstood those demons are inthe box. You want to keep them

(01:56:36):
in there. Remember Ghostbusters and theyturned off the trap all the ghost got
out. Earl doesn't want to seethat happening. Yes, exactly, No,
No, you're gonna call. I'mjust saying, but yeah, I
have to say, man, uhkind of been getting more into baseball,

(01:56:56):
and since the Tigers are well theTigers, it's baseball, and I'm like,
hmmm, I kind of miss baseball, man, and I Chris,
I get it if it's but Ilike something I can put on in the
background, and I know there's arecertain audio cues and I know I better
turn around and watch. You knowwhat I'm saying. The two months that

(01:57:18):
begin with are really the months I'minterested in baseball. April and August.
I got you. But it's whenthat's how come I always took it literally
pass time to mean literally it's somethingthat you can like pass the time in
the background with can on soap operasor something for a stay at home mom
or something. I understand. Iunderstand that absolutely, it definitely past time.

(01:57:43):
But it's to say, like,I mean, that's why that's where
the NFL is so popular. Everyfucking game means something. We are in
the spot in baseball right now wherethese games don't mean shit, Like I
mean, you can remain stuff forthe stats on the record, no,
but but there have been teams thathave been in you know, we're what
the middle of June. There havebeen teams in the middle of June.

(01:58:03):
I think the Tigers were in thespot when where they were in the basement,
and by the time you get toSeptember, they're in the playoffs.
You know, I mean just rightnow, it's just it's they are almost
meaningless games, something almost. That'swhy. But that's why I said,
now is the time you watch andyou're like, that's why, like Verlanders.

(01:58:23):
The anniversary of Verlander's first no headerjust passed, I believe on the
seventh and h dude, that wasthe perfect time. June seventh. That's
like, it's the June swoon,dude. You know what I'm saying.
That got that got people's attention backup into the Tigers in two thousand and
seven after they had that fucking stumbleof a start after going to the World

(01:58:45):
Series. But that's the type ofshit you're seeing, you know what I'm
saying. That's that's what you watchit in these days for you watch for
the individual accomplishment. I say,I know I know enough right now to
know that I know the Tigers arenot a complete pile of shit at the
moment. Is bad, but that'snot saying much. Well, I guess
right, they've I guess they've workedtheir way back to zero would be a

(01:59:05):
good way to put it. Yeah. Yeah, they're no longer in debt
yea, Yeah, yeah, they'rethey're they're they're even with the mean average
instead of below it. And theyneed but we need forward progress. We
need to keep going above that.Come on, let's do this. They're
like they got no debt but likea six twenty credit rating. Hey man,

(01:59:28):
no, but I'm saying that's agood person. I feel personally attacked.
Well, no, that's a goodspot to that. That's a good
spot to be in, Like youdon't have any debt and you got nowhere
to go but up unless you makedumb decisions. So it's Alavila is in
charge, so you know, yikes, Yeah, well you got a J.
Hinch. And I do think aJ. Hinch is a different type
of manager. I understand he's attachedto the Astros stuff. I get it.

(01:59:56):
This team could cheat all they want. It ain't gonna help him that
much. I didn't have to stillbe good. I think he might be
our Pudge. He might be theguy that gets the guys to come here.
That's what I'm thinking. I thinkthat's what they're going for. I've
heard I've heard a sound theory onanother podcast I listened to that I think
is dead on. There's gonna bea lot of guys who want to get

(02:00:19):
out of Houston because they're tired ofgetting ship thrown at him, and they're
gonna come play for a J.Hinch. That's m I can see it
because there was an element of thatthat mid two thousand Tigers that was getting
the band back together between Dave Dombrowski, uh, you know, him being
the general manager for ninety seven withthe with the Marlins, and he hired

(02:00:44):
Leland and then the two thousand andthree Marlins, Pudge, Miggie, dontrelle
willis all on that team. DaveDombrowski jama that team. Then he comes
to Detroit. I cannot remember,but I think Alan Tramwill had already been
hired and the general manager was letgo and Dombrowski coming. Or did Dombrowski
hired Alan tram hired Alan Tramill?Yeah, so he must have hired him

(02:01:09):
in Well, wait a minute,Dobrowski was there in two thousand and three
for the Marlins as a general manager. So how the fuck when was was
two thousand and four? No,two thousand and four, couldn't it?
Was it two thousand and four Tramwell'sfirst year's manager? Here? I know
it when Alan Trammell was a manager. I was delivering pizzas, So that's
pre two thousand and five anyways,Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely,

(02:01:32):
Well six was Leland's first year andTrammell was definitely How was it opening day
two thousand and five? Oh,opening day tho thousand and five and yeah,
two thousand and two to twenty fifteen. David Dombrowski, Yeah, Okay,
that was wrong. He wasn't there, Okay, that's how he knew
Pudge though, where he knew thathe had the pipeline into Miami in the

(02:01:54):
Marrow or its Florida Marlins. JesusChrist, I'll tell you you know what
a j Henshi though, I mean, and I know we I know,
we had to talk about this whenhe got signed here. That is definitely
the door to Verlander comes back hereto retire. Youre a Tiger. Yeah,
I could see it as long ashim and Verlander in good standings.
And from everything I've heard publicly,Verlander has been like, I I'm a

(02:02:15):
pitcher. I don't know shit aboutthat. Just I mean, that's basically.
That's basically like and I'm like,well, I gotta respect it.
He's playing the game, that's whathe's doing. He's not picking it.
He's not picking any sides. Here'sthe deal. He hasn't been implicated,
nor has he been exonerated of anything, because you can't be exonerated for something
you're not accused of. So he'splaying it. I don't know about it.

(02:02:41):
They ain't got nothing to do withme. I don't know, playing
pitch whatever. I'm married to Kato. I don't know. I don't know.
I know what he did was No, he did exactly what christ just
said. He's like, I showup, I show up one out of
every five days ready to fuck shitup, and then I go home to
Kate Upton the other four nights andfuck her up. Yeah. I've been

(02:03:03):
paying attention to I was just takingit. I didn't want to take this
opportunity to remind you guys he getsto fuck Kate Upton whenever he wants to,
dude. And I found a videoI sent it to you guys of
him when he met her or shemet him, because she was you could
tell. She's in the stands rightbehind the dugout and she's like Johnston Jostin

(02:03:24):
and he pops his head up andshe's like hi, and he's like,
oh hey, oh shit. Hi. She's like, can I have your
autograph? And he just goes andgets a ball for signs it. What
sends it to her? It's thatdrop. Oh wait, let me check
with my boner. Oh yeah,he's fine with it. Yeah. But
it's like Chris is like, yeah, how much money would you be willing

(02:03:45):
to bet at number was on thatball? I'm like, oh, in
a heartbeat, bro in a heartbeat, because she was just dude. I
think she had just turned into KateUpton. Here's my main cell, here's
my secret cell, here's my email, here's my LinkedIn. Yeah, here's
my Facebook page. But no,dude, seriously, she had just become

(02:04:06):
or was about to become Kate Uptonbecause the first thing I ever saw was
she was seventeen at some basketball gamedoing the dougie in the crowd, and
that's what she got famous for.And then like someone was like, hey,
she's done modeling and posted the pictures. Next thing you know, it
was like, would you like alot of money to walk around in our
lingerie? You look hot, nota lot of clothes, Yeah, and

(02:04:29):
here's some money. Yeah. Allof a sudden, boom, the whole
world knew who Ate Upton was.My dick knew who Ate Upton was.
I don't know if I did,but my dick definitely kne who Ate up
to one. And believe me,Ferlander's dick definitely knew who Kate up to
once when he handed her that ball. Oh absolutely, that's a good note
to hand on thinking about Kate Upton'sboobs. Well see yes, oh you're

(02:04:50):
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