February 27, 2025 • 49 mins
Martin Dixon, Matt Brocklebank and David Massey join Ben Linfoot to continue their mini series on betting at the 2025 Cheltenham Festival, with the Ryanair Chase and Stayers' Hurdle discussed in depth before they talk potential bets in several races including the Ultima Handicap Chase.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi, everyone, Welcome to Festival Focus Episode four or five.
Were nearly there. We're getting towards the Cheldham Festival exciting times.
I'm Bendlin foot on jowned by Matt Brocklebank, mattin Dixon
and Dave Massey or the usual panel as it's otherwise known,
to discuss the Rhine Air Chase and the Stays Hurdle
this week before we get into all sorts of horses
that are on our radar, and we'll put a couple
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of bets up at the end as well. I'm sure. So, guys,
we're going to start with the Ryanair and I think
it's fair to say that back in the day, if
it wasn't the Champion Heardle or the Champion Chase or
Gold Cup Day, then it felt a little bit underwhelming.
But I don't feel that these days. Certainly last year
when the Ryanair and the Stairs Hurdle came along, I
thought it was one of the best days of the festival.
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So I love the Thirst day. How do you feel
about it? Matt?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, and with you again looking back through the winners
of the Ryanair Chase, as you say, it kind of
was always considered kind of the weaker cousin of the
big If you're not in the Champion Chase at the
Gold Cup, you kind of go for the Ryan Air Chase.
But just look at the role of honor in this race.
It really is fantastic. We've seen some cracking winners obviously
one of two lesser editions along the way as well,
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but obviously you know under sover Tour Imperial Command or
horses that have gone on and done it in Champion
Chases and Gold Cups, and last year was another really
dramatic and exciting race, wasn't it. So yeah, the Ryanair
Chase this time around has the potential, as we speak,
and to live up to being as good as ever
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I'd say, as well real class horses in line for it.
Hopefully we see the vast majority of them and we
get sort of three or four of the big guns clashing.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And Dave Massey with it being over the intermediate trip.
It's often if you can find a runner anti post,
you've done well in the Ryan Air. But how do
you approach it this year for a punting part of you,
because there's some big names in there, isn't there, and
it's quite difficult to find an angle this far out.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I think that sort of sums it up.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Really.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I know we're going to look at the race in
a bit of detail, but we are. The more you
look at the race and where you're going, will that
turn up? Will that turn up? Which ones that were?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You know? And you are?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
We could we could end up for all that there's
you know, quite a few declared at the moment, we
could end up with another. No, we're just about getting
each way field I think out of it. It's looking
more and more likely, know that from what the sense
sort of Le France is sort of tilting a bit
this way, you rather than champion Chase, which in the
one way, if they do go that way, at least
we know we're absolutely guaranteed one thing, and that is
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a good pace in the race, which brings which I
think might have been one of the two of the
more lesser fancy runners into it. But we'll come to
it in a bit.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, Martin, how do you see the Ryan Air picture
at them?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Innute?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I mean, let's just try and identify a few of
the ones that we do think are going to running
the race.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah, I think it's it's starting to clear up a
little bit. I mean, we know we're going to get
Factor File, as Spillane's towers always been targeted, that that
that this was at least the likeliest destination for him.
Hopefully he gets there. We know that Protector At is
likely to go here. Gaelic Warriors still obviously up up
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in the air a little bit. I think we'd probably
expect him to go to the to the champion Chase instead,
But yeah, I think it will be a decent sized field.
It will be very competitive. Obviously at the front end
of the market. We've got Factor File, who we've discussed
in previous weeks, some very strong favorites that in all
honesty have been you know, there'll be punters out there
taking them on, of course in some of the other
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championship races, but I think they are the right favorites
and they're very much the form horses.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
I think in the case of factor File, we've.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Got a favorite that maybe, yes, he's got very good form,
he's consistent, and he's likely to have a really good
chance in the race, but I'm not sure that he's
so far ahead of his of his peers or on
the on the form bookers, the likes of a Constitutional
Hill is in the Champion Hurdle, or Galloping de Champs
is in the in the in the Gold Cup. Now
he's not quite as short as they are, admittedly, but
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this is a race where I think I'd be keen
to take on the favorite, just thinking that he's probably
a little bit too short in what will be a
very competitive race where you've got lots of similar caliber horses.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Really, yeah, we have. Let's talk about last year's winner,
Matt Protector at because we've seen repeat winners before in
this race, haven't we. Alberta's run and Alaho. Yeah, so
you know we've seen it done before. And I was
at Dan Skirton as ye had last week and he
says that he's in the form of his life and
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he's never had him as good as he is right now.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Hard to argue against it, isn't it on the back
of that really impressive win last time out.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Just with the repeat.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Winners in mind, I suppose you do see it every
season sheel them and it's not just the child them
specialists and festival form repeating itself, but this intermediate distance
on the chase course, it really does seem to a
bit of an acquired taste. I mean seen it sort
of time and time again, those big handicaps around the
around the course throughout the season, and you know the
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horses that have done it in Ryan Airs as well,
like throwd On, who obviously sort of bridge the gap
between those big handicaps over the intermediate trip and the Ryanair.
I mean, you know, I'll redotate loads of horses that
absolutely love it over this course and distance from them
racers too, and that's probably a major tick in protector
acts box. Despite there being a fair bit of heat
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on for the leader, I'd imagine, as Dave insinuated, prominent
races really do thrive in the Ryanair chase. I think
you're going all the way back to balcode flow in
twenty eighteen for the one the last winner who wasn't
either right on the pace or sitting handily, and even
he was, you know, you know, there was only like
five or six runners that year, so it wasn't miles
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of the base either. So yeah, I think you want
to kind of get into a jumping rhythm. I think
that's probably the bottom line. They tend to go hard
and then they slow it down and then quick enough
again after the water jump over there, and if you're
not traveling by that point, I really do think you're
in a bit of trouble in the Ryanair chase. But
Protector comes into it in fantastic form. He would obviously
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love rain. He seems to thrive on soft ground, and
he thrives in a battle, doesn't he. I watched it
again this morning, his win from last year, and not
just a really good piece of form, but a great
piece of evidence to show that this horse loves the battle.
M y Allen came to tackle him and he really
saw him off on the running.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
That extra bit of stamina that you need to win.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
The Ryanair kicked in later on, and if he goes
back in the same vein of form, he'd have an
outstanding chance again.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, eight hundred grand over eight hundred grand has won
this horse, and Dan Skobe was saying that, you know,
it's his will to win and his spirit that marks
him out as different from a lot of the horses
at his yard. Martin, you said you came to take
on fact or file. Is it is Protector ot in
your thinking?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, very much, sir.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I do think he's I do think he's overpriced in
the anti post markets. To be honest, I can see
him being well backed, and particularly if if the rain
does come in a couple of weeks time and it
ends up soft or heavy ground, which obviously we don't
know yet what the conditions will be really, but I
think he's around seven to one sort of generally, maybe
a bit shorter in a few places, but I think
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he'd be a very popular horse, you know, come come
race time, particularly if it rained. And it seems to
me that his season as they've taken a sort of slow, softly,
softly approach to the season, and I felt like Windsor
really last time was his first real target of the
year and he obviously passed that test with flying colors.
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Earlier on in the year, they started him out in
the Paddy Power Gold Cup off a big weight, didn't
ride him as positively as they usually do, and it
was probably just a starting point really, and then he
went to Huntingdon, which was the wrong way around, and
again they dropped him out, and again it felt likely
were kind of just working their way towards bigger things
to come. But he fully delivered at Windsor You couldn't
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knock that performance in any way, it was good on
the clock, completely dominated Jellos come out who had beaten
him before, and he's won obviously at Newbury and the
Denman Chase, but Protector just completely outclassed them.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
And he does look as good as good as ever.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
And if he produces a performance like he did at
Cheltenham last year, then I'd say that that's right up
there with Factor File's form, to be honest, and obviously
you're getting a much bigger price.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, Dave, let's just touch on that Cello farm line,
because obviously he Protector out at hunting and then was
putting his place at Windsor. How how do you see
those two as as you know, as a as a
farm line.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I think it's I think it's really interesting you come
to me to ask this because I was at Windsor
when the two of them were together and the two
of them ran, and MYA, again, I'm not this isn't
after timing or anything. You know, there were the notes
that were sent out before and I said, look, I
think Jello's had the edge took off of him after hunting,
and whereas whether whereas protectort looked absolutely spot on on
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the day.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
He looked one hundred percent. He looked ready to go.
He was the one that was fit.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
And well and shining in his gat whereas I just
thought the edge had been taking off Jello a little bit.
Now you've made the point then that Jello goes on
and under a different type of ride wins at Newbury.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I think this is a key point now.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I mean, if you look at Jello's charting performance last
year against against you know, great Awning, he was given
pretty a pretty aggressive ride that day, and he was
still sort of bang there, you know, turning in. But
now we know that he can be dropped out as well,
and under a sort of patient Charlie Deutsch ride. These
wonderful rides at Charlie gives where he knows exactly how
fast the horse can go at any one time, and
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he did that at Newbury and the horse still came
through to win. Now, going back to what we were
saying before, Now, if there's going to be some pace
on in the race, I'm not suggesting for a minute
Jello is going to be dropped right out out the back.
I don't think that's going to be the case. But
I think if he's sort of ridden, and now we
know he can be ridden with a bit more restraint.
You know, I think I think he's quite interesting at
a price here, I really do the more I sort
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of look at him, and as you say the form,
just tay, I'm not I'm not going to put too
much store in the Windsor result at this stage. I
think we know Jello is better than that. And I say,
I think, you know, I wasn't at Nubia. Unfortunate running around,
but you know, I would like to have seen him
there compared to what he was like at Windsor. But
I do think he's one that's that's quite interesting. He's
on my radar for it here.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Just keeping on you for a second, Dave. You mentioned
earlier that there might be one or two at bigger
prices that could come onto the radar in this race.
Is there anything you want to mention before we move on.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, there's just one more I want to mention. He
probably won't go here.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
He's in. He's in.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
He's in everything but the Eurovision Song contest. I think
spring Well Bay who is in. He's in so many races,
you know, it's very I would say it's quite un
John Joe like to have him in so many races
at this stage. Normally they've got an idea there might
be one or two races where they want to go,
and they'll be in both or maybe three of them.
He's in six different races including the now. Again, going
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back to what we're saying, we're going to get a
pace on here. I get the feeling that they think
spring Were Bay is still better than what he's shown
so far. And he absolutely dotted up last time at
child over this course and distance on the new course,
so you know, he's completely proven over the fences. He
can get a bit tory beforehand, he can get a
bit you know, can get a little bit keen.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I'd like to see him no more than that, just
nicely keen beforehand.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
But I think if he turned up here, I think
he's an interesting AUTSI he's got to step forward again,
of course he has. He's got another probably eight to
ten pounds to find to even sort of get involved.
But I get the feeling that they think they've got
that in the locker. He's a really interesting one.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah. One of the interesting horses with many multiple entries
at the festival at spring Well Bay Martin anything else
on the Ryan air Before we move.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
On, I think we should mention en Vio Alent, who
to me is he's one of the interesting outsiders. I
mean as big as twenty five to one twenties in
a few places as well, and he's a horse that
has been overlooked a few times in the past. Ahead
of this race a couple of years ago when he
won it, not many people fancied him. People felt like
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he'd you know, not really gone on from what he
was as a promising young horse. But his Cheltenham Festival
record is outstanding, isn't it really? When you break it down.
He obviously won here over hurdles in twenty twenty, he
won the Champion Bumper, he's won the Ryan and last
year when again he was he was overlooked by some,
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but he was actually sent off the nine to four
favorite for the race.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I was going to say, it's very well back last year.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, he was really well back, you know, close to
the off and he went off nine to four favorite
and in a race that wasn't a high tempo race,
he traveled through it best of anything. He made a
mistake I think at the final fence when he was
starting to deliver a bit of a challenge to protect
her at and I'm not saying he would have beaten
him with it.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I still think he'd been second, you know, with or
without the mistake, but it would have been a bit closer.
And if the race has run at a stronger gallop,
it'll suit him because he's often just sort of creeps
his way into races, and like, it's not as if
he was going to run below a form at Kempton, admittedly,
but he's done that before and bounced back and the
down Royal win was I know it was a very
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early point of the season, it was a small field,
but it was it was a smooth performance from him,
and a performance that suggested that he's still got the
engine that he had last year and the year before.
And he's like twenties and twenty fives and not talked
about at all, and I feel like he will be
primed to produce his best form again, and that best
form has been good enough to get very very competitive
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in last year's race and win the race the year before.
So yeah, I think he's been wrongly overlooked by the
market at this moment.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
In time and be pretty sure that it's where he goes.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
And like we've touched on if there is if Eli
Franz said does run and protect rat runs and it's
maybe a bigger field. Again, it's likely to be run
at a strong gallop and that would play to his
play to his strength.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, Matt, anything else you want to get off your
chest for the Ryan air.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, I would double down and never roll out of
Henry debro Mead trained horse heading into the Cheltenham Festival,
and I would repeat a little bit of what Mitin said,
is that we've got an eleven year old with a
chance here from the de brom ed Yard.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
But I'm actually looking at Jungle Boogie.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He's eleven, but you know he's not a normal eleven
year old is He's been very fragile, very lightly raced.
He's only ever had seven stats in his life. He's
won three of his five starts of offences. And you
could sort of argue that some of his phones a
little bit flaky. That Tramore win on New Year's Day
last year twenty twenty four, and even kind of when
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he beat Classic Getaway that that was a tremore. But
go back and watch that Gold Cup. He absolutely cruised around.
He jumps superbly. I'm absolutely convinced he wants to go
left handed, and that Gold Cup was the only other
time in his life he's ever raced around the left
and circuit.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
I like him.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He's made the comeback win earlier this season. That was
at Ascot. It was a small graduation race. Obviously he
put his experience and you know, relative age to good use,
and it was the race in which Iroco Fellow the first.
But he's won from one this season and straight afterwards
connections have sort of nominated the Ryanair chases his.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Target, so I wouldn't be ruling him out either.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
He's not quite achieved the level of form that Le
Franseais or Protector Out or Factor File have yet, but
he hasn't really had the opportunity. And when he raced
in that Gold Cup, he just ran like a horse
that didn't quite see it out. But go back and
watch it. He's come in there three out of and
he's in with a chance still at the second last.
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So I'd love to see him in O Ryan. I
hope they go this way. I think invented him in
the Champion Chase and the Gold Cup. So it looks
to me like the Ryanair is the obvious target to him,
and I think he's another He's another sneaky one for
Island in here, Scoop.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
It's not all about the one horse at the top
of the market. I don't think.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Okay, that's the Ryan h Chase. Could be a fantastic
race if fact File in a Frances etcetera turn up.
But let's move on to the Stairs Hurdle. The Paddy
Power Stairs Hurdle also on day three, the Thursday at
the festival, and the market here tells you one story. Really,
it's all about even money favorite to Hoopoo, and there's
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lots of other each way chances. I guess you might
call them just in behind. But the key question is
are we four or against the Hoopoo even money at
the prices? Martin Dixon, you go first.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Yeah, I'll be against him at the price. It was
obviously a good performance last season. He won it comfortably
in the end, but I do have some sort of
reservations as to how strong the race was last year.
It might not be significantly stronger this time around. But
we've only seen him once this season. You could make
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excuses for him getting beaten in a messy race, obviously
by losty mouth, and it was by no means a
poor effort from him over two and a half miles.
But yeah, I just think he's I think he's short
enough really for a horse that I don't. I don't
think he's one of the superstars, you know, for all
that he won the race readily last season, I think
he's he He's level of form all round isn't so
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much higher than some of the others in the race.
I think it could be a different type of race
this year as well. We've got you know, we've got
thirty entries for.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
It at the moment.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
At this moment in time, I think plenty he'll be
willing to have a crack at it.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
It could be a big field.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
It could be a stronger run, much stronger run race
than what we got last year when they went actually
quite steady.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
And I think that did suit to Hoopoo, because you know,
for for a.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Three miler he has got he has got a bit
of pace, hasn't. He's very effective at two and a half,
particularly on very soft ground. He is a better horse.
I think when when the ground's very soft, which we
don't know that we're going to get these those conditions
at this moment in time. So things could be quite
different to what they were twelve months ago. That's what
I'm trying to get at. It might be drier ground conditions.
It might be a bigger field than a higher temper race,
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which would be a different test to what it was
when he won it last year.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, if we're taking on to Hoopoo, Matt, what's the problem?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, best horse in race is certainly on soft ground.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
He's going to be pretty hard to beat, isn't he.
You look around, and Martin says, you know a big field?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You do look around. There's a fair few rogues in here,
aren't there. I mean Bob Ollinger, langer Dan, Steerium for
long She even kind of like horses like Garlas. We're
not quite sure where they're going to go. But some
of those horses you'd be rolling your eyes a bit,
wouldn't you. Bob Ollinger popped up or langer Dan sprung
back to form. So perhaps he hasn't got quite the
tougher task as it might look on paper, But mystical power,
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he could be a Springer here. I don't I have
no idea whether the intention is to run, but I
wouldn't be shocked if he were closer to sort of
eight ten to one on the day if he runs.
You know, some of his novice former has taken a
bit of a knock, and obviously he's shown very little
so far over two miles. He've read to stay as
far as you like. It's one of them, isn't it.
Where sometimes on the Thursday Willie Mullins is you know,
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already six seven winners deep and everything he runs gets
absolutely hammered. I could see that horse attracting support. I'm
not necessarily going to suggest he's a bet even at
the kind of bigger prices twenty five to one now,
but I do I have to mention the wall Park.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
I think he's dead interesting here. Now. Maybe they'll stick
down the attempts route.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Obviously he's fully qualified for that, having won at cheltenhamur
Are in the season. That was a race that worked
out especially well. I think there were five subsequent winners
to the men from that. A couple of Grade two
winners included Gowel Road.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
And Beacon Edge.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
The other Elliott Hawse look they ran him at Ascot
just to find out, really, wasn't it to find out
whether he was good enough, whether he was a Grade
one horse or not.
Speaker 7 (19:59):
And whilst did didn't win for me, he showed enough
that day. He really did.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He was caught out a little bit by Beauport dictating
and he was out the back early on. But I
loved the way he finished that day at Ascot Scoop.
But it really did scream stay as hurdled to me.
It has all the hallmarks of a kind of strong
finishing Cheltenham finish. We know he loves the course. This
horse is a He's a bit of a winning machine.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Isn't he.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Obviously he started at a low level and you know,
knowing the ability that he has now, he was fully
entitled to do what he did in those handicaps. But
he's six from twelve over hurdles. I reckon he could
give his stablemate a real shock no matter the ground,
to be honest, but especially if it's a relatively dry
week Cheltenman week. So the wallpark at double figure prices
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not gonna No, that makes makes a good amount of
appeal to me.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
If not God, go with God and Elliott then for
Matt right, so Dave have you see to Hooper at Evans.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
He's one of those.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
And now I don't particularly want to back him at evens,
but neither do I want to want to get him
stuck in and laying at Evans. To be perfectly honest,
I think fair play to them for doing what they've done.
I mean, you know, after Fairy House, Gordon said, right,
that's it. Won't see him again till March, which is
quite the right thing to do with him. He's best
friend fresh. And everybody moans that we never see these
horses blah blah blah. But if you've got a horse
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and you've got one shot at Grade one glory with him,
you want everything spot on. There's too many as the
season goes on, get and one can do this. I'm
going to do that, And then they change the plans
and by the time we got to child them, the
horse is goosed and it's it's not good enough. I
think fair play to them, you know, for for putting
him away after Fairyhouse. It's the right thing to do,
is to keep him fresh if he Martin made the
point about you know it is this.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Year's renewal this similar to last year's. Is it better
as it work?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I think it's And then Matt makes the point about
so many rogues in the race, and both absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And it's with that if.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You if you're having in each way bet in the race,
you're almost sort of waiting to sort of see who's
there on the day, and it's going to get case
of you. Fancy, isn't it, you know, for the places,
because these three might once you start.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You know, a lot of the's been around the block.
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I took a look at Buddy one last night and
I thought, oh, could that be you know, maybe going
back over, maybe I'll turn up.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
We had a wind op? Is he going to be
the one we'll we'll sort of getting?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
But you know, these horses have been around a bit
and there comes a point when they just they just
don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I think one or that you can if he turns up.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
And again there were sort of from what I gathered
they were talking at the wage launch yesterday, they might
they might not, but Gower Road is absolutely bang solid
and he will run his race. Now that race won't
be good enough to win it, but it might well
be good enough to get him into the three, into
the four, and you'll get an extra place on the day,
probably because greedy bookmakers will want want your money, as
they always do.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Sorry, do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Lucky Place will stay because he's a solid consistent as well, isn't.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
He He He is solid and he is consistent. But
he's too short matter, isn't it the I think eight
to one for for a horse that's that's got a
narrow verdict of gowl Road and twenty I don't see.
I don't see the difference in price between the two,
and that was over a trip that's too short for
gowl Road. So again, it doesn't make any sense to
me that Lucky Place is about an eight nine chance
and gole Road is double back because he's proven a
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three miles and he's tough as old boots. So if
he turned up on the day, if he turned up
on the day, I think he'd be one. I'd be
sort of looking at as going, yeah, he's far more
likely to run his race than a few of these.
I did mention Buddy one. I think you know the
fourth last year was a decent run and I'm I'm
not sure we've got the best of right last year.
That's my own personal opinion. But still I'd be looking
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to go a bit wider running this time around. But
he's you know, it's not really happened for him. Offences
and he came back having made a noise last time.
If he rocked up, you know, having had having had
a window back over hurdles. Who knows. I don't know.
It's that sort of a race, isn't it to do?
I think's form is the best. Even money, it's probably
not far off being right, you're going to get are
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we going to get bigger than that on the day? Again,
like we said, depend on the first two days. If
we've got a load of short ones turned down the
bucket would be wanting to get your money. You might
get six to four on the day, you might get
six to four. So he's not he's not an anti
pace butt. And in terms of looking for something each way,
for me, you've got to sit and I know she's
I know she's splinters in the backside to the highest order,
but you've got to just sit and way, I think
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see what turns up.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, I think to be clear, I neither would I
want to lay too, But I just think he's you know,
he's the price that he he's the worthy favorite for
the race. But there's a few different factors that come
to play, you know, maybe when the final field comes about,
and if if it is soft ground and it's very
similar to what it was last year, you might be
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very well, very well be much more positive. There is
a also a bigger price that I think is a
lot better than his last run and also ran in.
I'd be pretty positive about the Wall Back Park as well,
but I don't know whether they'll go here or running
the Potempse, so we'll just have to have to wait
and see. But I think Hidden Valley Lake who last
ran disappointingly obviously in the Galmoy when he was a
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beaten favorite, but it was during that point of this
year that we've touched on already, where the Bromin's horses
just were not firing, and I think for that reason
you could you could be pretty forgiving of that run
in the Galmoy. The run at Ascot in the in
the long walk, I thought was a really good effort
and to me him and him and the Wallpark were
the two that deserved the most credit on the day
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and probably looked like the best horses in the race.
Cranbow was well positioned, Beauport was well positioned. He went
steady and it didn't suit Hidden Valley Lake really, but
he was still only beaten ahead from a bit further
back than the two that he split. And obviously the
Wallpark was the fastest finisher, So I think those two
emerged with quite a lot of credit out of the
long walk. And although the form itself is a little
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bit is a little bit shaky, I think if there
is a higher temper to this race, it would suit
Hidden Valley Lake. And like I say, you can, in
my mind be pretty forgiving of the Galmoy given the
way the stables horses just weren't running well at the time.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay, last word on the stayers hurdle. Dave Massey, you
are the founding member and chairman of the Langadan Fan Club.
After his second Coral Cut success last year, how's he
going to run?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I want to see some evidence he stays three miles first,
that would be my first question.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
He's going to rock up. He's going to rock up
in the Coral. Isn't he off that way? You know
what's going to happen. He's going to rock up. It'll
turned up there. You watch you.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I don't like Yeah, listen, you know the daffodils come
out and Langer and comes back to form every year.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
God bless him. But I don't think this is the
race for him.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Then okay, that is the Paddy Power Stayers Hurdle. The
market says it's all about sahoopoo. But we shall see
right then, gence on the radar. Let's go with Martin first.
What has come onto your attention this weeknight? We've had
the the weight released, We've seen what the Irish horses
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are getting in the handicaps at shelter them. But you
can tell me anything about any race.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Yeah, well, we're obviously a bit close to the meeting,
really aren't we For anything hugely significant to be happening.
We could obviously look back at the weekend. I suspect
that from Kempton Tripoli Flyer will probably take his chance
in the Supreme, but I'd see more of a horse
that would be suited by a flatter track. Potentially, I
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think Entry might suit him a little bit better. Having
said that, he could also be better on a right
handed track like Kempton was because he was just adjusting
a little bit that way. Some of his flights are hurdles,
so left hand track would be a concern. And as
much as anything, I don't think that form from the
Duve Cut will be good enough to get anywhere near
competitive in a supreme novice. The Pendal we saw Rubau
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in that that's not going to have much impact on
the festival obviously, so I don't think we're a bit
too close to Cheltenham for any notable things to have
happened in the last week. I think in relation to
the races in terms of the handicaps, obviously Copeck de
Mays caught a bit of attention, hasn't he with the
mark of one hundred and thirty five. I think it
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is a complete unknown quantity be no doubt the talk
of the town when it comes to all of the
preview nights that will be happening. But I think the
look set to go for the Martin Pipe with him
in all likelihood. I believe that's the case anyway, So
he's going to be a complete shot in the dark
and he might just be one of those that's like
twenty pound well in we really don't know on his
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French form, but I suppose he was the main talking
point from the weights.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
There are a couple of others.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Wouldn't be necessarily notable after the weights as such, but
just horses that I've got on the radar for the
Grand Annual. I was having a look at through that
after the weights had been released. There's a horse a
massive price of Loosinda Russells called Trap Rayan Law. I
really like this horse. He's got a good attitude, he
jumps well. He hasn't had the best season admittedly to
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this point, but I thought last time at Muscleborough was
much more like it, and they rode him quite patiently,
which hasn't been the case for his best performances, and
it was over two and a half miles, so I
don't think the sort of reserved tactics over two and
a half miles is absolutely optimum for him. He's tended
to be at his best around two miles when they've
been more aggressive with him. But he just looked like
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a horse that was coming back into peak form, I
thought muscle But it was a good run to finish
third in a pretty competitive race. He's slipped down to
a mark of one hundred and thirty six, which on
his best form I think is quite a lenient mark.
Most of his racing, admittedly has come in the North
of England, but you know he's got some good time performances.
He's run up against some good horses earlier on in
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the season at Carlisle when he finished third enlisted company,
so he does have some good form and he's just
a very likable horse with a straightforward racing style. He
jumps well and I could see him being competitive in
the Grand Annual.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Which is a waste.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
I think the Brits have won seven of the last ten,
so British trained horses have got a good record in
the race. It's always wide up and there'll be plenty
with chances as they swing into the straight, but I
could see him being one of them. I think you
can get as big as fifties in a place, forties
in a couple of places. Generally maybe thirty threes, but
he's a horse at a big price in the Grand Annual.
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Trap praying law that I have on the radar.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Excellent stuff, cheers Martin. Matt's same question to you. What's
probably in a way?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, I was a little bit more encouraged by some
of the recent actions to be on a scoop. I
will mention a couple of horses, the running Irish horses,
one running nine and one came over here. So on
Sunday we saw the final qualified for the attempts and
it was won by the very well back Will the wise.
Gavin Cromwell's got another one that sort of added to
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the festival squad. He did have a hard race, so
you know he got up to beat Maxie Matt Gold
in quite a tough race in attritional conditions.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
I was drawn to the third and the fourth Gordon Elliott.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
His jockey's on the day James Smith and Finn Brickley,
I mean five star rights by then. Full credit to
them obviously given the task of finishing inside the first four,
and they finished her third and fourth.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
Fantastic runs from them.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Lucky Lyreen was the one I quite like the look
of He's obviously now qualified for the attempts final. Just
last Friday as well, we saw Malina Girl. She came
over at another Cromwell horse. She came over and ran at
Exeter in the listed Mayor's Chase that she ran second
in last year and filled the runner up spot again
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and I thought she ran really well.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
It was good to see her back and form. She
found the poly.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Gundry Mayor the thriving Mayor called don't rightly know found
her a bit too good, but Gavin, she and Rhoder
and it was a nice tailup ride. Really, it was
a perfect, perfectly respectable effort from Malina girl. Now she
has had a very quiet season this time around as well.
Didn't appear till New Year's Day, and that was on
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the back of, you know, a long break after last
year's really busy campaign which included a Childham victory and
a handicap chase earlier in the season that was in
the the November meeting. And then obviously if you remember
her when Connor Stone Walsh Roder and she took a
crunching fall three three fences from the finish when still troubling. Well,
her season was just you know, tailed off a little
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bit from that point. But it's good to see her back.
I think she's got quite an attractive mark for the
ultimate handicap chase. Interestingly, Cromwell had the third horse in
the Mayor's Listed race just on Friday as well Malt
mays On and if they reappear, if they both reopposed
Childham in the ultimate, you know the second is going
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to be better off at the weights, and I think
she's got one hundred and forty two that should see
her just slide in nicely towards the bottom of the handicaps.
And Molina Girl's got to be worth a second up
I think in the Ultima. And then the final horse
I mentioned just again on the back of just seeing
the weights in midweek, I do still need to go
through these with a bit of a closer details scoop.
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But the horse that I was desperate to sort of
find out what his mark was was Carafon. I think
I mentioned him a couple of weeks ago. He's got
entries in the Martin Pipe and the Coral Cup. It
sounds like they're going to go for the Martin Pipe.
That's the kind of early indications. I've spoke to Darryl
Jake about this horse, a double green horse, Carafon, and
he's hoping he might go for the Martin Pipe.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
And his mark is one hundred and thirty five.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
So for a horse that he was one of them,
he was very lightly raced as a juvenile heardler for
Willie Mullins last year finished fifth behind Carlo Conti and
his only start over Christmas last last winter, and then
this time around he's come out and when he's clonmel
made and really impressively over two miles.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Three and a half. So that was his one first.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Ever start for Willim Mullins over that sort of trip,
and then they dropped him back in distance to contest
two Grade one races at Leopardstown. He's finished fourth to
Romeo Coolio and seventh last time behind Copeck the board
and he's hopefully going to go back up in distance
for the festival off for a really attractive looking mark.
So Caraphon's got to be worth a look again. Not
massively missed in the Betan, but I think he's around
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fourteen or sixteen to one for.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
The Mountain Pipe.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Okay, I know we've all had about ten houses in
the Martain Pipe, haven't we. But I've got another one.
There was there was one that I was waiting for
and actually this this goes the other way because I'm
a little bit disappointed with the mark has been given
it seven pounds higher than his Irish mark. It's flurring
the park. For Andrew Slattery comes from that Limerick race.
He's got loads of graded farm I thought it was
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dead interesting given a mark of one forty and he's
one three three in Ireland. I mean at least he's
number eight in the list and he's only got one entry,
so I don't know. So yeah. But on the other hand,
Sandor play game for Paul Nolan gets in the Coral
Cup off his Irish mark of one four seven, so
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no extra a poundage from the b h A saysys
for him. So he's suddenly come on the radar. Always
dead interesting to see what the handicappers do with the
Irish horses. Dave Massey, you've not been sighted on a
race carse since the handicap waits came out. I think
you've been beavering away in the attic room, haven't you just.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Think I think I've been. That's what That's what I've been.
I've been. Look, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
We put all these horses up for the Martin Pipe
by the way, the Martin pipe on the in the
pot and we'll order chair Martin.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
We've got in the from the pot section. We've got
two points with no ordinary shair and that's the that's
the only one that matters.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Don't worry about correct why we why was talking about
the bet?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
It was not on a bett in case they go
the Coral Cup. Now it looks like he's going to
go for JP.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
And that talking about ten right, okay, I will right,
I'll started with Kempton. I will give a mention for
one from a track side perspective, and that was Mambo
number five, who was a different horse to what we
saw at Cheltenham first time or first time up at Cheltenham.
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From my word go when he came in the prey
parade on his toes, didn't know what it was about,
very green, very towey, far too Keen didn't run his
race and he was a different horse with a hood
on on Saturday. He was much calmer in the paddock
and I said before I think I think he might.
We'll see what he can do today if he can
run his race, and it was just he was just
a different horse. And Ben Pulling afterwards admitted, you know,
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he said, perhaps I didn't have him fit enough either
for Cheltenham. But the old Harval experience is just a
bit too much for him. He's I think he's quite
interesting for the boodles. Now we've we've seen a well
back Ben Pauling one in recent times, aren't we, for
the under different circumstances. But bad was really well backed
on the day or the day before from sort of
sixteen and one into about Now that's a different scenario.
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That was a horse with a French mark that was
thought was too low. As it turned out Badges couldn't
run his race anyway. But nevertheless, I think that was
a big step forward for him. He needs another one,
but you know, a marker one twenty eight is not
too punitive, I don't think for Manbow number five. And
he's got some size about him. He's a big, robust
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thing seventeen hands, which was much to Matt chapman surprise.
He thought he was quite a small horse in the
interview afterwards, until Ben told him he was seventeen hands.
But anyways, by the by, I think he's quite interesting.
He'd be the one out I kept, and that if
there was any I would take forward. How have I
been looking at the handicappers, I've funnily enough. Tomorrow I'm
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going to be looking at all the sort of Irish
handy cappers and going through them yesterday, I was sort
of trying to sit through the British ones and see
there's anything there that was sort of moderately interesting. There
were a couple of bits and pieces that came up.
Unexpected Party for Dan Skelton is going to be six
pounds better off with Liberty Hunter for beating him in
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the Grand Annual last year if they go that way again.
And that's the campaigned Unexpected Party really well, because he's
actually pretty much run to his run near his mark,
apart from the Old Road when he didn't stay two
and a half, but this year's because of the races
has been tried in he's not actually run far below
he's mark, so it's not a case of being sort
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of dropped out of the boat and the marks from
tumbling down and just kept him ticking along in his mark.
Still quite favorable I think for the Grand Daniels say,
he's certainly favorable with the second so I think he's
quite interesting. And you might listen, Scoop, you might have
noticed I'm quite old school.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Me.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I'm quite old school.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
We have it's a lovable trade. It is it's one
of my lovable road trades. And I do believe I'm
always I've always been a believer in previous festival handicap
form being appointed to this year's previous future previous festival
handicap form. I think if you've run well in a
handicap once there, there's a fair chance you're going to
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come back and do it again. Now having said that,
the horse I'm going to put up right well in
a festival handicap three years ago, he's.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Only been seen a handful of times on a race
course since.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
And that's no, it's not It's not no Joe, it's
happy Go Lucky.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Who I thought was. I gave him a chance.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
He's dropped in three pounds for that comeback run at Shelton,
which was over a trip too short. I thought the
engine was still there that day and he went in
the notebook as ultimate question mark.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Sure enough. Here he is one forty.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Seven pounds lower than when he was second back in
twenty twenty one, when he was still trained by Kim
Baby Back then now trained by Mel Rowley, and we
knows already won one Premiere long distance handicap this year.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Why can't you do it again.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I think for a horse at eleven, I think he's
only had thirteen starts, very very lightly campaigned. As I say,
I thought the engine was there. The step back up
in trip is definitely going to suit him. I think
he's quite interesting. Thirty threes.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
It was off for a hell of a long time,
wasn't he before his children.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Run the best part of three years? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
What likeoop, So I should say as well, what like
they've given him a little bit of time to get
over that. He hasn't they're rushing straight back again and
given another one. They've given him time to get over that.
So our old friend, the bounce factor, whether that exists
or not, shouldn't come into play.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Okay, excellent stuff. I just wanted to briefly chat with
Matt about whistle Stop Tar because I know he's a
horse that was on your radar, Matt, and I was
chatting to you him to you earlier about him, and
I've just got him. I've got a ring around his
name for the National Hunt Novice's Chase. I just think
he's a dour stayer mark of one three six for
Lucinda Russell. But he's got loads of entries, hasn't he.
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That's what's putting me ony.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, he's got loads of entries, including one in there.
Isn't it Childan at all in the Midlands National and
I think some stage Lucinda mentioned another race you tuxit
her as well that weekend there's a three mile novice's handicaps,
isn't there?
Speaker 7 (41:00):
So it's up in the air. He has got the entries.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Interestingly, they did give him the fourth run, didn't they.
On trial's day he ran behind Jaguar, finished fifth back
over two and a half miles. It didn't suit him,
So that fourth run actually qualifies him for the ultimate
you know, the the open handicap chases that.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
La for the novice was already he was already in.
So I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I think he wants a trip the time and he's
forties and fifties for the National Hunt Chase, which is
now the handicap is at three miles six, so you know,
if he were to rock up there, I couldn't put
anyone off having a nibble at him at a huge
price nomin and no bet obviously, but I have no idea,
no idea what the plan is at the moment.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Unfortunately, but he's definitely on my red air for something soon.
So whistles, yeah, like a nice hoss. Okay, we're going
to finalize some selections now I'll just go over the
portfolio so far. This is from the Pop by the way,
the final section of the podcast where we put some
mythical points on horses, and we've spent one two before
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ten So far, ten of the twenty have gone. I'm
Willider who for the Fred Winter jpr one for the
Queen Mother, no bet, no ordinary. Joe has discussed Martin Pipe,
Golden Ice for the Champion Hurdle, Corbett's Cross each Way,
Fevery in the Gold Cup and is matric in the
cross country. What mark did he get, Matt.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, he got nudged up quite nicely on the back
of that run in France.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
I think he got one hundred.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
And yeah, the French one.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, I looked at it. He's going to be seven
pounds out of the weight if the top one.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
Runs, n't he Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I think he was what was he twelve pounds out
of the weights when he ran there at charlten them
earlier in the season, So yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
I mean it.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Doesn't actually make any difference because he'll carry the same
way whatever he is out of the works. No difference
happened in the cross country is a bit of a
joke anyway, isn't it. We've seen it time and time again.
It's about you know, how they take to it.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
And he's carrying bottom weights too.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah okay, well still interesting, and those are the ten
points that have been spent, so let's spend some more.
I mean, it's the final week of the mini series
next week. It'd be nice to have a few left
just because. Yeah, so we can have something late late doors,
but fire away if you've got one. I mean, it
sounded to me Martin like you were you're very tempted
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by Trapper in Law.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he would be the closest I
would be. He's a massive price, obviously, I think, as
I say, he's as big as fifties in a place,
and he's a horse with a genuine handicapping chance on
his best efforts, I think, And he's a huge price.
So look, he'd have to go and improve him in
a different it's himself in a different type of race
obviously than what he's done before. But he is a
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huge price, he'd be the closest I'd be in some respects.
I sort of think at this stage you're better waiting
another week and getting a little bit more information, and
I don't feel like this is the optimum time to
be playing Shelton Markets.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
If I'm being honest, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I feel very similar myself. But Matt Dave, if you
got anything for this section.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well, on the back of today, the one I'd be
most keen on is to back the Wallpark no runner
No about twelve to one, because even obviously it's no
issue if he runs in the Attempts Final.
Speaker 7 (44:31):
And I'd be fairly keen on him to run there.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
To be honest, I think he's rate one hundred and
fifty two, isn't he, which is exactly what Sider Burleigh
defined in his second Attempts Final as well. So they
could be tempted to do that, but as we've sort
of said, it's one of those races that could really
it's a messy race, and the Wallpark is such a
progressive horse with a load of ones to his name.
J P McManus, you know, if the sun comes out,
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I think he could be He's twelve now he could
be five or six, could me on the day if
he runs the.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Stays, okay, well let's get him on side.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Not running a bet, I'd reckon I'd go each way,
even that sort of price, just because of obviously the
stable mate who completely dominates the betting. But you know
he's obviously hard to beat, but you want that, you
want that element to the bet.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
My my gut feeling is he will go for the
attempts because because Gordon's got such a strong hand with
But obviously if you're betting non running a bet, you know.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
And I would agree with you that if he does
go there, I think he'll end up shorter.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
So has Jericho, one of the favorites, Jericho do Repinnee
And there's another horse as well in the potemps for McManus, where.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
There are people out there when they get their money back,
they feel like they're back to winners.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I have one of them. Anything that comes back. We
has JP got anything else for the stayers?
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Matt well, does he not own half of mystical power?
Speaker 1 (46:06):
But I know they're Richie colors though, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (46:09):
I think I have no idea what the plans are
there to.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Shore it count.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, I'd like to think that they'd like a dog
in the fight.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Okay, one point each way the Wall Park Paddy Power
Stairs hurdle twelve to one, and I run a no
bet each way Dave message you want to add any points.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Only bet that I have at of those that I've
sort of mentioned is I have backed Happy go looky
each way at forty.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I think this thirty three is still around.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
I think that's probably fair enough because at least we
know if he's turning up, he's only turning up on
the ultimate. Is no other way nowhere else he's going,
so we know that, And he could he's got the
potential to be a wise guy horse on the day,
hasn't he.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
People are looking go one forty. That's a nice mark.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
And you know if he gets if he gets a
bit of rain, gets his conditions, he could be going
off sort of nearest eighteen twenty to one. I think
he's I don't think he's got the potent there absolutely collapsing,
but he could be a wise guy horse on the day.
I think the forty was entirely for thirty three is
still fair enough. It'd only be a half point each way.
I mean, given his age, you know you can't get
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maderals is like that.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Okay, well, we haven't had an ulcomer bet yet. If
you want to stick it.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
In there, go on, let's have a gay as long
as you said me, as long as you save me too,
as long as you saved me two points for the
Fox Hunters. Next week you go mad. Next week you
go daf as far as well we.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Can go next week, we've still got plenty of play with.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
Yeah, I just to sum up this week of the
of the races that we.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Looked at, I thought Envoy Allen was very big for
the Ryan Air. But I'm not taking the jump on
any of these to suggest they should be in the.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
Pot quite yet.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
I thought Hidden Valley Lake in the Stayers, I'd had
Legs again twenty twenty five to one, and Trapper and
Laura in the Grand Annual. They're all they're all huge prices.
And you know, I wouldn't be saying I'm all over
any of them, but I could. I could see cases
for them a big prices.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Okay, think well, I'm going to say we're so far
out with the handicaps share it's there's a lot of
guesswork involved. I know we've chatted away about him, that's great,
but you is still a lot of guesswork involved as
to who's going where and why and putting antiprise bets up.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
You've got to be back in normal and a bet
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Absolutely okay, Well, we'll stick half a point each way
on Happy Go Lucky, Thank you, thirty threes for the
Ultimate Mantic cat Chase, one point each way on the
World part. They're added to the from the Pot section
and we've got points to play with next week, so
please do tune in. It's our last episode of this
mini series, Festival Focus, Episode five, and it's it's a
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free for all. We can talk about whatever we want,
so I look forward to that. Gents, Thanks to Martin,
thanks to Dave, thanks to Matt, and thanks for listening.
Hopefully you'll tune in again next week.
Hi, everyone, Welcome to Festival Focus Episode four or five.
Were nearly there. We're getting towards the Cheldham Festival exciting times.
I'm Bendlin foot on jowned by Matt Brocklebank, mattin Dixon
and Dave Massey or the usual panel as it's otherwise known,
to discuss the Rhine Air Chase and the Stays Hurdle
this week before we get into all sorts of horses
that are on our radar, and we'll put a couple
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of bets up at the end as well. I'm sure. So, guys,
we're going to start with the Ryanair and I think
it's fair to say that back in the day, if
it wasn't the Champion Heardle or the Champion Chase or
Gold Cup Day, then it felt a little bit underwhelming.
But I don't feel that these days. Certainly last year
when the Ryanair and the Stairs Hurdle came along, I
thought it was one of the best days of the festival.
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So I love the Thirst day. How do you feel
about it? Matt?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, and with you again looking back through the winners
of the Ryanair Chase, as you say, it kind of
was always considered kind of the weaker cousin of the
big If you're not in the Champion Chase at the
Gold Cup, you kind of go for the Ryan Air Chase.
But just look at the role of honor in this race.
It really is fantastic. We've seen some cracking winners obviously
one of two lesser editions along the way as well,
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but obviously you know under sover Tour Imperial Command or
horses that have gone on and done it in Champion
Chases and Gold Cups, and last year was another really
dramatic and exciting race, wasn't it. So yeah, the Ryanair
Chase this time around has the potential, as we speak,
and to live up to being as good as ever
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I'd say, as well real class horses in line for it.
Hopefully we see the vast majority of them and we
get sort of three or four of the big guns clashing.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
And Dave Massey with it being over the intermediate trip.
It's often if you can find a runner anti post,
you've done well in the Ryan Air. But how do
you approach it this year for a punting part of you,
because there's some big names in there, isn't there, and
it's quite difficult to find an angle this far out.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, I think that sort of sums it up.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Really.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I know we're going to look at the race in
a bit of detail, but we are. The more you
look at the race and where you're going, will that
turn up? Will that turn up? Which ones that were?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You know? And you are?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
We could we could end up for all that there's
you know, quite a few declared at the moment, we
could end up with another. No, we're just about getting
each way field I think out of it. It's looking
more and more likely, know that from what the sense
sort of Le France is sort of tilting a bit
this way, you rather than champion Chase, which in the
one way, if they do go that way, at least
we know we're absolutely guaranteed one thing, and that is
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a good pace in the race, which brings which I
think might have been one of the two of the
more lesser fancy runners into it. But we'll come to
it in a bit.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, Martin, how do you see the Ryan Air picture
at them?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Innute?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I mean, let's just try and identify a few of
the ones that we do think are going to running
the race.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah, I think it's it's starting to clear up a
little bit. I mean, we know we're going to get
Factor File, as Spillane's towers always been targeted, that that
that this was at least the likeliest destination for him.
Hopefully he gets there. We know that Protector At is
likely to go here. Gaelic Warriors still obviously up up
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in the air a little bit. I think we'd probably
expect him to go to the to the champion Chase instead,
But yeah, I think it will be a decent sized field.
It will be very competitive. Obviously at the front end
of the market. We've got Factor File, who we've discussed
in previous weeks, some very strong favorites that in all
honesty have been you know, there'll be punters out there
taking them on, of course in some of the other
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championship races, but I think they are the right favorites
and they're very much the form horses.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
I think in the case of factor File, we've.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Got a favorite that maybe, yes, he's got very good form,
he's consistent, and he's likely to have a really good
chance in the race, but I'm not sure that he's
so far ahead of his of his peers or on
the on the form bookers, the likes of a Constitutional
Hill is in the Champion Hurdle, or Galloping de Champs
is in the in the in the Gold Cup. Now
he's not quite as short as they are, admittedly, but
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this is a race where I think I'd be keen
to take on the favorite, just thinking that he's probably
a little bit too short in what will be a
very competitive race where you've got lots of similar caliber horses.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Really, yeah, we have. Let's talk about last year's winner,
Matt Protector at because we've seen repeat winners before in
this race, haven't we. Alberta's run and Alaho. Yeah, so
you know we've seen it done before. And I was
at Dan Skirton as ye had last week and he
says that he's in the form of his life and
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he's never had him as good as he is right now.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Hard to argue against it, isn't it on the back
of that really impressive win last time out.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Just with the repeat.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Winners in mind, I suppose you do see it every
season sheel them and it's not just the child them
specialists and festival form repeating itself, but this intermediate distance
on the chase course, it really does seem to a
bit of an acquired taste. I mean seen it sort
of time and time again, those big handicaps around the
around the course throughout the season, and you know the
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horses that have done it in Ryan Airs as well,
like throwd On, who obviously sort of bridge the gap
between those big handicaps over the intermediate trip and the Ryanair.
I mean, you know, I'll redotate loads of horses that
absolutely love it over this course and distance from them
racers too, and that's probably a major tick in protector
acts box. Despite there being a fair bit of heat
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on for the leader, I'd imagine, as Dave insinuated, prominent
races really do thrive in the Ryanair chase. I think
you're going all the way back to balcode flow in
twenty eighteen for the one the last winner who wasn't
either right on the pace or sitting handily, and even
he was, you know, you know, there was only like
five or six runners that year, so it wasn't miles
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of the base either. So yeah, I think you want
to kind of get into a jumping rhythm. I think
that's probably the bottom line. They tend to go hard
and then they slow it down and then quick enough
again after the water jump over there, and if you're
not traveling by that point, I really do think you're
in a bit of trouble in the Ryanair chase. But
Protector comes into it in fantastic form. He would obviously
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love rain. He seems to thrive on soft ground, and
he thrives in a battle, doesn't he. I watched it
again this morning, his win from last year, and not
just a really good piece of form, but a great
piece of evidence to show that this horse loves the battle.
M y Allen came to tackle him and he really
saw him off on the running.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
That extra bit of stamina that you need to win.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
The Ryanair kicked in later on, and if he goes
back in the same vein of form, he'd have an
outstanding chance again.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, eight hundred grand over eight hundred grand has won
this horse, and Dan Skobe was saying that, you know,
it's his will to win and his spirit that marks
him out as different from a lot of the horses
at his yard. Martin, you said you came to take
on fact or file. Is it is Protector ot in
your thinking?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, very much, sir.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
I do think he's I do think he's overpriced in
the anti post markets. To be honest, I can see
him being well backed, and particularly if if the rain
does come in a couple of weeks time and it
ends up soft or heavy ground, which obviously we don't
know yet what the conditions will be really, but I
think he's around seven to one sort of generally, maybe
a bit shorter in a few places, but I think
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he'd be a very popular horse, you know, come come
race time, particularly if it rained. And it seems to
me that his season as they've taken a sort of slow, softly,
softly approach to the season, and I felt like Windsor
really last time was his first real target of the
year and he obviously passed that test with flying colors.
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Earlier on in the year, they started him out in
the Paddy Power Gold Cup off a big weight, didn't
ride him as positively as they usually do, and it
was probably just a starting point really, and then he
went to Huntingdon, which was the wrong way around, and
again they dropped him out, and again it felt likely
were kind of just working their way towards bigger things
to come. But he fully delivered at Windsor You couldn't
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knock that performance in any way, it was good on
the clock, completely dominated Jellos come out who had beaten
him before, and he's won obviously at Newbury and the
Denman Chase, but Protector just completely outclassed them.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
And he does look as good as good as ever.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
And if he produces a performance like he did at
Cheltenham last year, then I'd say that that's right up
there with Factor File's form, to be honest, and obviously
you're getting a much bigger price.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, Dave, let's just touch on that Cello farm line,
because obviously he Protector out at hunting and then was
putting his place at Windsor. How how do you see
those two as as you know, as a as a
farm line.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I think it's I think it's really interesting you come
to me to ask this because I was at Windsor
when the two of them were together and the two
of them ran, and MYA, again, I'm not this isn't
after timing or anything. You know, there were the notes
that were sent out before and I said, look, I
think Jello's had the edge took off of him after hunting,
and whereas whether whereas protectort looked absolutely spot on on
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the day.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
He looked one hundred percent. He looked ready to go.
He was the one that was fit.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
And well and shining in his gat whereas I just
thought the edge had been taking off Jello a little bit.
Now you've made the point then that Jello goes on
and under a different type of ride wins at Newbury.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I think this is a key point now.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I mean, if you look at Jello's charting performance last
year against against you know, great Awning, he was given
pretty a pretty aggressive ride that day, and he was
still sort of bang there, you know, turning in. But
now we know that he can be dropped out as well,
and under a sort of patient Charlie Deutsch ride. These
wonderful rides at Charlie gives where he knows exactly how
fast the horse can go at any one time, and
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he did that at Newbury and the horse still came
through to win. Now, going back to what we were
saying before, Now, if there's going to be some pace
on in the race, I'm not suggesting for a minute
Jello is going to be dropped right out out the back.
I don't think that's going to be the case. But
I think if he's sort of ridden, and now we
know he can be ridden with a bit more restraint.
You know, I think I think he's quite interesting at
a price here, I really do the more I sort
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of look at him, and as you say the form,
just tay, I'm not I'm not going to put too
much store in the Windsor result at this stage. I
think we know Jello is better than that. And I say,
I think, you know, I wasn't at Nubia. Unfortunate running around,
but you know, I would like to have seen him
there compared to what he was like at Windsor. But
I do think he's one that's that's quite interesting. He's
on my radar for it here.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Just keeping on you for a second, Dave. You mentioned
earlier that there might be one or two at bigger
prices that could come onto the radar in this race.
Is there anything you want to mention before we move on.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, there's just one more I want to mention. He
probably won't go here.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
He's in. He's in.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
He's in everything but the Eurovision Song contest. I think
spring Well Bay who is in. He's in so many races,
you know, it's very I would say it's quite un
John Joe like to have him in so many races
at this stage. Normally they've got an idea there might
be one or two races where they want to go,
and they'll be in both or maybe three of them.
He's in six different races including the now. Again, going
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back to what we're saying, we're going to get a
pace on here. I get the feeling that they think
spring Were Bay is still better than what he's shown
so far. And he absolutely dotted up last time at
child over this course and distance on the new course,
so you know, he's completely proven over the fences. He
can get a bit tory beforehand, he can get a
bit you know, can get a little bit keen.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I'd like to see him no more than that, just
nicely keen beforehand.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
But I think if he turned up here, I think
he's an interesting AUTSI he's got to step forward again,
of course he has. He's got another probably eight to
ten pounds to find to even sort of get involved.
But I get the feeling that they think they've got
that in the locker. He's a really interesting one.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah. One of the interesting horses with many multiple entries
at the festival at spring Well Bay Martin anything else
on the Ryan air Before we move.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
On, I think we should mention en Vio Alent, who
to me is he's one of the interesting outsiders. I
mean as big as twenty five to one twenties in
a few places as well, and he's a horse that
has been overlooked a few times in the past. Ahead
of this race a couple of years ago when he
won it, not many people fancied him. People felt like
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he'd you know, not really gone on from what he
was as a promising young horse. But his Cheltenham Festival
record is outstanding, isn't it really? When you break it down.
He obviously won here over hurdles in twenty twenty, he
won the Champion Bumper, he's won the Ryan and last
year when again he was he was overlooked by some,
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but he was actually sent off the nine to four
favorite for the race.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I was going to say, it's very well back last year.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, he was really well back, you know, close to
the off and he went off nine to four favorite
and in a race that wasn't a high tempo race,
he traveled through it best of anything. He made a
mistake I think at the final fence when he was
starting to deliver a bit of a challenge to protect
her at and I'm not saying he would have beaten
him with it.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
I don't think.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
I still think he'd been second, you know, with or
without the mistake, but it would have been a bit closer.
And if the race has run at a stronger gallop,
it'll suit him because he's often just sort of creeps
his way into races, and like, it's not as if
he was going to run below a form at Kempton, admittedly,
but he's done that before and bounced back and the
down Royal win was I know it was a very
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early point of the season, it was a small field,
but it was it was a smooth performance from him,
and a performance that suggested that he's still got the
engine that he had last year and the year before.
And he's like twenties and twenty fives and not talked
about at all, and I feel like he will be
primed to produce his best form again, and that best
form has been good enough to get very very competitive
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in last year's race and win the race the year before.
So yeah, I think he's been wrongly overlooked by the
market at this moment.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
In time and be pretty sure that it's where he goes.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
And like we've touched on if there is if Eli
Franz said does run and protect rat runs and it's
maybe a bigger field. Again, it's likely to be run
at a strong gallop and that would play to his
play to his strength.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, Matt, anything else you want to get off your
chest for the Ryan air.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, I would double down and never roll out of
Henry debro Mead trained horse heading into the Cheltenham Festival,
and I would repeat a little bit of what Mitin said,
is that we've got an eleven year old with a
chance here from the de brom ed Yard.
Speaker 7 (14:17):
But I'm actually looking at Jungle Boogie.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
He's eleven, but you know he's not a normal eleven
year old is He's been very fragile, very lightly raced.
He's only ever had seven stats in his life. He's
won three of his five starts of offences. And you
could sort of argue that some of his phones a
little bit flaky. That Tramore win on New Year's Day
last year twenty twenty four, and even kind of when
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he beat Classic Getaway that that was a tremore. But
go back and watch that Gold Cup. He absolutely cruised around.
He jumps superbly. I'm absolutely convinced he wants to go
left handed, and that Gold Cup was the only other
time in his life he's ever raced around the left
and circuit.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
I like him.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He's made the comeback win earlier this season. That was
at Ascot. It was a small graduation race. Obviously he
put his experience and you know, relative age to good use,
and it was the race in which Iroco Fellow the first.
But he's won from one this season and straight afterwards
connections have sort of nominated the Ryanair chases his.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Target, so I wouldn't be ruling him out either.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
He's not quite achieved the level of form that Le
Franseais or Protector Out or Factor File have yet, but
he hasn't really had the opportunity. And when he raced
in that Gold Cup, he just ran like a horse
that didn't quite see it out. But go back and
watch it. He's come in there three out of and
he's in with a chance still at the second last.
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So I'd love to see him in O Ryan. I
hope they go this way. I think invented him in
the Champion Chase and the Gold Cup. So it looks
to me like the Ryanair is the obvious target to him,
and I think he's another He's another sneaky one for
Island in here, Scoop.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
It's not all about the one horse at the top
of the market. I don't think.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Okay, that's the Ryan h Chase. Could be a fantastic
race if fact File in a Frances etcetera turn up.
But let's move on to the Stairs Hurdle. The Paddy
Power Stairs Hurdle also on day three, the Thursday at
the festival, and the market here tells you one story. Really,
it's all about even money favorite to Hoopoo, and there's
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lots of other each way chances. I guess you might
call them just in behind. But the key question is
are we four or against the Hoopoo even money at
the prices? Martin Dixon, you go first.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Yeah, I'll be against him at the price. It was
obviously a good performance last season. He won it comfortably
in the end, but I do have some sort of
reservations as to how strong the race was last year.
It might not be significantly stronger this time around. But
we've only seen him once this season. You could make
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excuses for him getting beaten in a messy race, obviously
by losty mouth, and it was by no means a
poor effort from him over two and a half miles.
But yeah, I just think he's I think he's short
enough really for a horse that I don't. I don't
think he's one of the superstars, you know, for all
that he won the race readily last season, I think
he's he He's level of form all round isn't so
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much higher than some of the others in the race.
I think it could be a different type of race
this year as well. We've got you know, we've got
thirty entries for.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
It at the moment.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
At this moment in time, I think plenty he'll be
willing to have a crack at it.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
It could be a big field.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
It could be a stronger run, much stronger run race
than what we got last year when they went actually
quite steady.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
And I think that did suit to Hoopoo, because you know,
for for a.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Three miler he has got he has got a bit
of pace, hasn't. He's very effective at two and a half,
particularly on very soft ground. He is a better horse.
I think when when the ground's very soft, which we
don't know that we're going to get these those conditions
at this moment in time. So things could be quite
different to what they were twelve months ago. That's what
I'm trying to get at. It might be drier ground conditions.
It might be a bigger field than a higher temper race,
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which would be a different test to what it was
when he won it last year.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, if we're taking on to Hoopoo, Matt, what's the problem?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, best horse in race is certainly on soft ground.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
He's going to be pretty hard to beat, isn't he.
You look around, and Martin says, you know a big field?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You do look around. There's a fair few rogues in here,
aren't there. I mean Bob Ollinger, langer Dan, Steerium for
long She even kind of like horses like Garlas. We're
not quite sure where they're going to go. But some
of those horses you'd be rolling your eyes a bit,
wouldn't you. Bob Ollinger popped up or langer Dan sprung
back to form. So perhaps he hasn't got quite the
tougher task as it might look on paper, But mystical power,
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he could be a Springer here. I don't I have
no idea whether the intention is to run, but I
wouldn't be shocked if he were closer to sort of
eight ten to one on the day if he runs.
You know, some of his novice former has taken a
bit of a knock, and obviously he's shown very little
so far over two miles. He've read to stay as
far as you like. It's one of them, isn't it.
Where sometimes on the Thursday Willie Mullins is you know,
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already six seven winners deep and everything he runs gets
absolutely hammered. I could see that horse attracting support. I'm
not necessarily going to suggest he's a bet even at
the kind of bigger prices twenty five to one now,
but I do I have to mention the wall Park.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
I think he's dead interesting here. Now. Maybe they'll stick
down the attempts route.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Obviously he's fully qualified for that, having won at cheltenhamur
Are in the season. That was a race that worked
out especially well. I think there were five subsequent winners
to the men from that. A couple of Grade two
winners included Gowel Road.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
And Beacon Edge.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
The other Elliott Hawse look they ran him at Ascot
just to find out, really, wasn't it to find out
whether he was good enough, whether he was a Grade
one horse or not.
Speaker 7 (19:59):
And whilst did didn't win for me, he showed enough
that day. He really did.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
He was caught out a little bit by Beauport dictating
and he was out the back early on. But I
loved the way he finished that day at Ascot Scoop.
But it really did scream stay as hurdled to me.
It has all the hallmarks of a kind of strong
finishing Cheltenham finish. We know he loves the course. This
horse is a He's a bit of a winning machine.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
Isn't he.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Obviously he started at a low level and you know,
knowing the ability that he has now, he was fully
entitled to do what he did in those handicaps. But
he's six from twelve over hurdles. I reckon he could
give his stablemate a real shock no matter the ground,
to be honest, but especially if it's a relatively dry
week Cheltenman week. So the wallpark at double figure prices
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not gonna No, that makes makes a good amount of
appeal to me.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
If not God, go with God and Elliott then for
Matt right, so Dave have you see to Hooper at Evans.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
He's one of those.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
And now I don't particularly want to back him at evens,
but neither do I want to want to get him
stuck in and laying at Evans. To be perfectly honest,
I think fair play to them for doing what they've done.
I mean, you know, after Fairy House, Gordon said, right,
that's it. Won't see him again till March, which is
quite the right thing to do with him. He's best
friend fresh. And everybody moans that we never see these
horses blah blah blah. But if you've got a horse
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and you've got one shot at Grade one glory with him,
you want everything spot on. There's too many as the
season goes on, get and one can do this. I'm
going to do that, And then they change the plans
and by the time we got to child them, the
horse is goosed and it's it's not good enough. I
think fair play to them, you know, for for putting
him away after Fairyhouse. It's the right thing to do,
is to keep him fresh if he Martin made the
point about you know it is this.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Year's renewal this similar to last year's. Is it better
as it work?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I think it's And then Matt makes the point about
so many rogues in the race, and both absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And it's with that if.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You if you're having in each way bet in the race,
you're almost sort of waiting to sort of see who's
there on the day, and it's going to get case
of you. Fancy, isn't it, you know, for the places,
because these three might once you start.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You know, a lot of the's been around the block.
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I took a look at Buddy one last night and
I thought, oh, could that be you know, maybe going
back over, maybe I'll turn up.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
We had a wind op? Is he going to be
the one we'll we'll sort of getting?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
But you know, these horses have been around a bit
and there comes a point when they just they just
don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I think one or that you can if he turns up.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
And again there were sort of from what I gathered
they were talking at the wage launch yesterday, they might
they might not, but Gower Road is absolutely bang solid
and he will run his race. Now that race won't
be good enough to win it, but it might well
be good enough to get him into the three, into
the four, and you'll get an extra place on the day,
probably because greedy bookmakers will want want your money, as
they always do.
Speaker 7 (22:46):
Sorry, do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Lucky Place will stay because he's a solid consistent as well, isn't.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
He He He is solid and he is consistent. But
he's too short matter, isn't it the I think eight
to one for for a horse that's that's got a
narrow verdict of gowl Road and twenty I don't see.
I don't see the difference in price between the two,
and that was over a trip that's too short for
gowl Road. So again, it doesn't make any sense to
me that Lucky Place is about an eight nine chance
and gole Road is double back because he's proven a
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three miles and he's tough as old boots. So if
he turned up on the day, if he turned up
on the day, I think he'd be one. I'd be
sort of looking at as going, yeah, he's far more
likely to run his race than a few of these.
I did mention Buddy one. I think you know the
fourth last year was a decent run and I'm I'm
not sure we've got the best of right last year.
That's my own personal opinion. But still I'd be looking
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to go a bit wider running this time around. But
he's you know, it's not really happened for him. Offences
and he came back having made a noise last time.
If he rocked up, you know, having had having had
a window back over hurdles. Who knows. I don't know.
It's that sort of a race, isn't it to do?
I think's form is the best. Even money, it's probably
not far off being right, you're going to get are
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we going to get bigger than that on the day? Again,
like we said, depend on the first two days. If
we've got a load of short ones turned down the
bucket would be wanting to get your money. You might
get six to four on the day, you might get
six to four. So he's not he's not an anti
pace butt. And in terms of looking for something each way,
for me, you've got to sit and I know she's
I know she's splinters in the backside to the highest order,
but you've got to just sit and way, I think
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see what turns up.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, I think to be clear, I neither would I
want to lay too, But I just think he's you know,
he's the price that he he's the worthy favorite for
the race. But there's a few different factors that come
to play, you know, maybe when the final field comes about,
and if if it is soft ground and it's very
similar to what it was last year, you might be
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very well, very well be much more positive. There is
a also a bigger price that I think is a
lot better than his last run and also ran in.
I'd be pretty positive about the Wall Back Park as well,
but I don't know whether they'll go here or running
the Potempse, so we'll just have to have to wait
and see. But I think Hidden Valley Lake who last
ran disappointingly obviously in the Galmoy when he was a
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beaten favorite, but it was during that point of this
year that we've touched on already, where the Bromin's horses
just were not firing, and I think for that reason
you could you could be pretty forgiving of that run
in the Galmoy. The run at Ascot in the in
the long walk, I thought was a really good effort
and to me him and him and the Wallpark were
the two that deserved the most credit on the day
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and probably looked like the best horses in the race.
Cranbow was well positioned, Beauport was well positioned. He went
steady and it didn't suit Hidden Valley Lake really, but
he was still only beaten ahead from a bit further
back than the two that he split. And obviously the
Wallpark was the fastest finisher, So I think those two
emerged with quite a lot of credit out of the
long walk. And although the form itself is a little
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bit is a little bit shaky, I think if there
is a higher temper to this race, it would suit
Hidden Valley Lake. And like I say, you can, in
my mind be pretty forgiving of the Galmoy given the
way the stables horses just weren't running well at the time.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay, last word on the stayers hurdle. Dave Massey, you
are the founding member and chairman of the Langadan Fan Club.
After his second Coral Cut success last year, how's he
going to run?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I want to see some evidence he stays three miles first,
that would be my first question.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
He's going to rock up. He's going to rock up
in the Coral. Isn't he off that way? You know
what's going to happen. He's going to rock up. It'll
turned up there. You watch you.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
I don't like Yeah, listen, you know the daffodils come
out and Langer and comes back to form every year.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
God bless him. But I don't think this is the
race for him.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Then okay, that is the Paddy Power Stayers Hurdle. The
market says it's all about sahoopoo. But we shall see
right then, gence on the radar. Let's go with Martin first.
What has come onto your attention this weeknight? We've had
the the weight released, We've seen what the Irish horses
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are getting in the handicaps at shelter them. But you
can tell me anything about any race.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Yeah, well, we're obviously a bit close to the meeting,
really aren't we For anything hugely significant to be happening.
We could obviously look back at the weekend. I suspect
that from Kempton Tripoli Flyer will probably take his chance
in the Supreme, but I'd see more of a horse
that would be suited by a flatter track. Potentially, I
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think Entry might suit him a little bit better. Having
said that, he could also be better on a right
handed track like Kempton was because he was just adjusting
a little bit that way. Some of his flights are hurdles,
so left hand track would be a concern. And as
much as anything, I don't think that form from the
Duve Cut will be good enough to get anywhere near
competitive in a supreme novice. The Pendal we saw Rubau
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in that that's not going to have much impact on
the festival obviously, so I don't think we're a bit
too close to Cheltenham for any notable things to have
happened in the last week. I think in relation to
the races in terms of the handicaps, obviously Copeck de
Mays caught a bit of attention, hasn't he with the
mark of one hundred and thirty five. I think it
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is a complete unknown quantity be no doubt the talk
of the town when it comes to all of the
preview nights that will be happening. But I think the
look set to go for the Martin Pipe with him
in all likelihood. I believe that's the case anyway, So
he's going to be a complete shot in the dark
and he might just be one of those that's like
twenty pound well in we really don't know on his
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French form, but I suppose he was the main talking
point from the weights.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
There are a couple of others.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Wouldn't be necessarily notable after the weights as such, but
just horses that I've got on the radar for the
Grand Annual. I was having a look at through that
after the weights had been released. There's a horse a
massive price of Loosinda Russells called Trap Rayan Law. I
really like this horse. He's got a good attitude, he
jumps well. He hasn't had the best season admittedly to
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this point, but I thought last time at Muscleborough was
much more like it, and they rode him quite patiently,
which hasn't been the case for his best performances, and
it was over two and a half miles, so I
don't think the sort of reserved tactics over two and
a half miles is absolutely optimum for him. He's tended
to be at his best around two miles when they've
been more aggressive with him. But he just looked like
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a horse that was coming back into peak form, I
thought muscle But it was a good run to finish
third in a pretty competitive race. He's slipped down to
a mark of one hundred and thirty six, which on
his best form I think is quite a lenient mark.
Most of his racing, admittedly has come in the North
of England, but you know he's got some good time performances.
He's run up against some good horses earlier on in
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the season at Carlisle when he finished third enlisted company,
so he does have some good form and he's just
a very likable horse with a straightforward racing style. He
jumps well and I could see him being competitive in
the Grand Annual.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Which is a waste.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
I think the Brits have won seven of the last ten,
so British trained horses have got a good record in
the race. It's always wide up and there'll be plenty
with chances as they swing into the straight, but I
could see him being one of them. I think you
can get as big as fifties in a place, forties
in a couple of places. Generally maybe thirty threes, but
he's a horse at a big price in the Grand Annual.
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Trap praying law that I have on the radar.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Excellent stuff, cheers Martin. Matt's same question to you. What's
probably in a way?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, I was a little bit more encouraged by some
of the recent actions to be on a scoop. I
will mention a couple of horses, the running Irish horses,
one running nine and one came over here. So on
Sunday we saw the final qualified for the attempts and
it was won by the very well back Will the wise.
Gavin Cromwell's got another one that sort of added to
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the festival squad. He did have a hard race, so
you know he got up to beat Maxie Matt Gold
in quite a tough race in attritional conditions.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
I was drawn to the third and the fourth Gordon Elliott.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
His jockey's on the day James Smith and Finn Brickley,
I mean five star rights by then. Full credit to
them obviously given the task of finishing inside the first four,
and they finished her third and fourth.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
Fantastic runs from them.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Lucky Lyreen was the one I quite like the look
of He's obviously now qualified for the attempts final. Just
last Friday as well, we saw Malina Girl. She came
over at another Cromwell horse. She came over and ran at
Exeter in the listed Mayor's Chase that she ran second
in last year and filled the runner up spot again
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and I thought she ran really well.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
It was good to see her back and form. She
found the poly.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Gundry Mayor the thriving Mayor called don't rightly know found
her a bit too good, but Gavin, she and Rhoder
and it was a nice tailup ride. Really, it was
a perfect, perfectly respectable effort from Malina girl. Now she
has had a very quiet season this time around as well.
Didn't appear till New Year's Day, and that was on
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the back of, you know, a long break after last
year's really busy campaign which included a Childham victory and
a handicap chase earlier in the season that was in
the the November meeting. And then obviously if you remember
her when Connor Stone Walsh Roder and she took a
crunching fall three three fences from the finish when still troubling. Well,
her season was just you know, tailed off a little
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bit from that point. But it's good to see her back.
I think she's got quite an attractive mark for the
ultimate handicap chase. Interestingly, Cromwell had the third horse in
the Mayor's Listed race just on Friday as well Malt
mays On and if they reappear, if they both reopposed
Childham in the ultimate, you know the second is going
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to be better off at the weights, and I think
she's got one hundred and forty two that should see
her just slide in nicely towards the bottom of the handicaps.
And Molina Girl's got to be worth a second up
I think in the Ultima. And then the final horse
I mentioned just again on the back of just seeing
the weights in midweek, I do still need to go
through these with a bit of a closer details scoop.
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But the horse that I was desperate to sort of
find out what his mark was was Carafon. I think
I mentioned him a couple of weeks ago. He's got
entries in the Martin Pipe and the Coral Cup. It
sounds like they're going to go for the Martin Pipe.
That's the kind of early indications. I've spoke to Darryl
Jake about this horse, a double green horse, Carafon, and
he's hoping he might go for the Martin Pipe.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
And his mark is one hundred and thirty five.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
So for a horse that he was one of them,
he was very lightly raced as a juvenile heardler for
Willie Mullins last year finished fifth behind Carlo Conti and
his only start over Christmas last last winter, and then
this time around he's come out and when he's clonmel
made and really impressively over two miles.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Three and a half. So that was his one first.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Ever start for Willim Mullins over that sort of trip,
and then they dropped him back in distance to contest
two Grade one races at Leopardstown. He's finished fourth to
Romeo Coolio and seventh last time behind Copeck the board
and he's hopefully going to go back up in distance
for the festival off for a really attractive looking mark.
So Caraphon's got to be worth a look again. Not
massively missed in the Betan, but I think he's around
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fourteen or sixteen to one for.
Speaker 7 (34:14):
The Mountain Pipe.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Okay, I know we've all had about ten houses in
the Martain Pipe, haven't we. But I've got another one.
There was there was one that I was waiting for
and actually this this goes the other way because I'm
a little bit disappointed with the mark has been given
it seven pounds higher than his Irish mark. It's flurring
the park. For Andrew Slattery comes from that Limerick race.
He's got loads of graded farm I thought it was
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dead interesting given a mark of one forty and he's
one three three in Ireland. I mean at least he's
number eight in the list and he's only got one entry,
so I don't know. So yeah. But on the other hand,
Sandor play game for Paul Nolan gets in the Coral
Cup off his Irish mark of one four seven, so
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no extra a poundage from the b h A saysys
for him. So he's suddenly come on the radar. Always
dead interesting to see what the handicappers do with the
Irish horses. Dave Massey, you've not been sighted on a
race carse since the handicap waits came out. I think
you've been beavering away in the attic room, haven't you just.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Think I think I've been. That's what That's what I've been.
I've been. Look, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
We put all these horses up for the Martin Pipe
by the way, the Martin pipe on the in the
pot and we'll order chair Martin.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
We've got in the from the pot section. We've got
two points with no ordinary shair and that's the that's
the only one that matters.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Don't worry about correct why we why was talking about
the bet?
Speaker 5 (35:53):
It was not on a bett in case they go
the Coral Cup. Now it looks like he's going to
go for JP.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
And that talking about ten right, okay, I will right,
I'll started with Kempton. I will give a mention for
one from a track side perspective, and that was Mambo
number five, who was a different horse to what we
saw at Cheltenham first time or first time up at Cheltenham.
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From my word go when he came in the prey
parade on his toes, didn't know what it was about,
very green, very towey, far too Keen didn't run his
race and he was a different horse with a hood
on on Saturday. He was much calmer in the paddock
and I said before I think I think he might.
We'll see what he can do today if he can
run his race, and it was just he was just
a different horse. And Ben Pulling afterwards admitted, you know,
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he said, perhaps I didn't have him fit enough either
for Cheltenham. But the old Harval experience is just a
bit too much for him. He's I think he's quite
interesting for the boodles. Now we've we've seen a well
back Ben Pauling one in recent times, aren't we, for
the under different circumstances. But bad was really well backed
on the day or the day before from sort of
sixteen and one into about Now that's a different scenario.
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That was a horse with a French mark that was
thought was too low. As it turned out Badges couldn't
run his race anyway. But nevertheless, I think that was
a big step forward for him. He needs another one,
but you know, a marker one twenty eight is not
too punitive, I don't think for Manbow number five. And
he's got some size about him. He's a big, robust
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thing seventeen hands, which was much to Matt chapman surprise.
He thought he was quite a small horse in the
interview afterwards, until Ben told him he was seventeen hands.
But anyways, by the by, I think he's quite interesting.
He'd be the one out I kept, and that if
there was any I would take forward. How have I
been looking at the handicappers, I've funnily enough. Tomorrow I'm
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going to be looking at all the sort of Irish
handy cappers and going through them yesterday, I was sort
of trying to sit through the British ones and see
there's anything there that was sort of moderately interesting. There
were a couple of bits and pieces that came up.
Unexpected Party for Dan Skelton is going to be six
pounds better off with Liberty Hunter for beating him in
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the Grand Annual last year if they go that way again.
And that's the campaigned Unexpected Party really well, because he's
actually pretty much run to his run near his mark,
apart from the Old Road when he didn't stay two
and a half, but this year's because of the races
has been tried in he's not actually run far below
he's mark, so it's not a case of being sort
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of dropped out of the boat and the marks from
tumbling down and just kept him ticking along in his mark.
Still quite favorable I think for the Grand Daniels say,
he's certainly favorable with the second so I think he's
quite interesting. And you might listen, Scoop, you might have
noticed I'm quite old school.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Me.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I'm quite old school.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
We have it's a lovable trade. It is it's one
of my lovable road trades. And I do believe I'm
always I've always been a believer in previous festival handicap
form being appointed to this year's previous future previous festival
handicap form. I think if you've run well in a
handicap once there, there's a fair chance you're going to
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come back and do it again. Now having said that,
the horse I'm going to put up right well in
a festival handicap three years ago, he's.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Only been seen a handful of times on a race
course since.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
And that's no, it's not It's not no Joe, it's
happy Go Lucky.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Who I thought was. I gave him a chance.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
He's dropped in three pounds for that comeback run at Shelton,
which was over a trip too short. I thought the
engine was still there that day and he went in
the notebook as ultimate question mark.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Sure enough. Here he is one forty.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Seven pounds lower than when he was second back in
twenty twenty one, when he was still trained by Kim
Baby Back then now trained by Mel Rowley, and we
knows already won one Premiere long distance handicap this year.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Why can't you do it again.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I think for a horse at eleven, I think he's
only had thirteen starts, very very lightly campaigned. As I say,
I thought the engine was there. The step back up
in trip is definitely going to suit him. I think
he's quite interesting. Thirty threes.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
It was off for a hell of a long time,
wasn't he before his children.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Run the best part of three years? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
What likeoop, So I should say as well, what like
they've given him a little bit of time to get
over that. He hasn't they're rushing straight back again and
given another one. They've given him time to get over that.
So our old friend, the bounce factor, whether that exists
or not, shouldn't come into play.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Okay, excellent stuff. I just wanted to briefly chat with
Matt about whistle Stop Tar because I know he's a
horse that was on your radar, Matt, and I was
chatting to you him to you earlier about him, and
I've just got him. I've got a ring around his
name for the National Hunt Novice's Chase. I just think
he's a dour stayer mark of one three six for
Lucinda Russell. But he's got loads of entries, hasn't he.
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That's what's putting me ony.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, he's got loads of entries, including one in there.
Isn't it Childan at all in the Midlands National and
I think some stage Lucinda mentioned another race you tuxit
her as well that weekend there's a three mile novice's handicaps,
isn't there?
Speaker 7 (41:00):
So it's up in the air. He has got the entries.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Interestingly, they did give him the fourth run, didn't they.
On trial's day he ran behind Jaguar, finished fifth back
over two and a half miles. It didn't suit him,
So that fourth run actually qualifies him for the ultimate
you know, the the open handicap chases that.
Speaker 7 (41:19):
La for the novice was already he was already in.
So I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I think he wants a trip the time and he's
forties and fifties for the National Hunt Chase, which is
now the handicap is at three miles six, so you know,
if he were to rock up there, I couldn't put
anyone off having a nibble at him at a huge
price nomin and no bet obviously, but I have no idea,
no idea what the plan is at the moment.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Unfortunately, but he's definitely on my red air for something soon.
So whistles, yeah, like a nice hoss. Okay, we're going
to finalize some selections now I'll just go over the
portfolio so far. This is from the Pop by the way,
the final section of the podcast where we put some
mythical points on horses, and we've spent one two before
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ten So far, ten of the twenty have gone. I'm
Willider who for the Fred Winter jpr one for the
Queen Mother, no bet, no ordinary. Joe has discussed Martin Pipe,
Golden Ice for the Champion Hurdle, Corbett's Cross each Way,
Fevery in the Gold Cup and is matric in the
cross country. What mark did he get, Matt.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, he got nudged up quite nicely on the back
of that run in France.
Speaker 7 (42:32):
I think he got one hundred.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
And yeah, the French one.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, I looked at it. He's going to be seven
pounds out of the weight if the top one.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
Runs, n't he Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I think he was what was he twelve pounds out
of the weights when he ran there at charlten them
earlier in the season, So yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:47):
I mean it.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Doesn't actually make any difference because he'll carry the same
way whatever he is out of the works. No difference
happened in the cross country is a bit of a
joke anyway, isn't it. We've seen it time and time again.
It's about you know, how they take to it.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
And he's carrying bottom weights too.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah okay, well still interesting, and those are the ten
points that have been spent, so let's spend some more.
I mean, it's the final week of the mini series
next week. It'd be nice to have a few left
just because. Yeah, so we can have something late late doors,
but fire away if you've got one. I mean, it
sounded to me Martin like you were you're very tempted
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by Trapper in Law.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he would be the closest I
would be. He's a massive price, obviously, I think, as
I say, he's as big as fifties in a place,
and he's a horse with a genuine handicapping chance on
his best efforts, I think, And he's a huge price.
So look, he'd have to go and improve him in
a different it's himself in a different type of race
obviously than what he's done before. But he is a
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huge price, he'd be the closest I'd be in some respects.
I sort of think at this stage you're better waiting
another week and getting a little bit more information, and
I don't feel like this is the optimum time to
be playing Shelton Markets.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
If I'm being honest, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I feel very similar myself. But Matt Dave, if you
got anything for this section.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well, on the back of today, the one I'd be
most keen on is to back the Wallpark no runner
No about twelve to one, because even obviously it's no
issue if he runs in the Attempts Final.
Speaker 7 (44:31):
And I'd be fairly keen on him to run there.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
To be honest, I think he's rate one hundred and
fifty two, isn't he, which is exactly what Sider Burleigh
defined in his second Attempts Final as well. So they
could be tempted to do that, but as we've sort
of said, it's one of those races that could really
it's a messy race, and the Wallpark is such a
progressive horse with a load of ones to his name.
J P McManus, you know, if the sun comes out,
(44:55):
I think he could be He's twelve now he could
be five or six, could me on the day if
he runs the.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Stays, okay, well let's get him on side.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Not running a bet, I'd reckon I'd go each way,
even that sort of price, just because of obviously the
stable mate who completely dominates the betting. But you know
he's obviously hard to beat, but you want that, you
want that element to the bet.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
My my gut feeling is he will go for the
attempts because because Gordon's got such a strong hand with
But obviously if you're betting non running a bet, you know.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (45:31):
And I would agree with you that if he does
go there, I think he'll end up shorter.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
So has Jericho, one of the favorites, Jericho do Repinnee
And there's another horse as well in the potemps for McManus, where.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
There are people out there when they get their money back,
they feel like they're back to winners.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I have one of them. Anything that comes back. We
has JP got anything else for the stayers?
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Matt well, does he not own half of mystical power?
Speaker 1 (46:06):
But I know they're Richie colors though, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (46:09):
I think I have no idea what the plans are
there to.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Shore it count.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, I'd like to think that they'd like a dog
in the fight.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Okay, one point each way the Wall Park Paddy Power
Stairs hurdle twelve to one, and I run a no
bet each way Dave message you want to add any points.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
Only bet that I have at of those that I've
sort of mentioned is I have backed Happy go looky
each way at forty.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I think this thirty three is still around.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
I think that's probably fair enough because at least we
know if he's turning up, he's only turning up on
the ultimate. Is no other way nowhere else he's going,
so we know that, And he could he's got the
potential to be a wise guy horse on the day,
hasn't he.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
People are looking go one forty. That's a nice mark.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
And you know if he gets if he gets a
bit of rain, gets his conditions, he could be going
off sort of nearest eighteen twenty to one. I think
he's I don't think he's got the potent there absolutely collapsing,
but he could be a wise guy horse on the day.
I think the forty was entirely for thirty three is
still fair enough. It'd only be a half point each way.
I mean, given his age, you know you can't get
(47:11):
maderals is like that.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
Okay, well, we haven't had an ulcomer bet yet. If
you want to stick it.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
In there, go on, let's have a gay as long
as you said me, as long as you save me too,
as long as you saved me two points for the
Fox Hunters. Next week you go mad. Next week you
go daf as far as well we.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Can go next week, we've still got plenty of play with.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
Yeah, I just to sum up this week of the
of the races that we.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
Looked at, I thought Envoy Allen was very big for
the Ryan Air. But I'm not taking the jump on
any of these to suggest they should be in the.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
Pot quite yet.
Speaker 5 (47:45):
I thought Hidden Valley Lake in the Stayers, I'd had
Legs again twenty twenty five to one, and Trapper and
Laura in the Grand Annual. They're all they're all huge prices.
And you know, I wouldn't be saying I'm all over
any of them, but I could. I could see cases
for them a big prices.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Okay, think well, I'm going to say we're so far
out with the handicaps share it's there's a lot of
guesswork involved. I know we've chatted away about him, that's great,
but you is still a lot of guesswork involved as
to who's going where and why and putting antiprise bets up.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
You've got to be back in normal and a bet
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Absolutely okay, Well, we'll stick half a point each way
on Happy Go Lucky, Thank you, thirty threes for the
Ultimate Mantic cat Chase, one point each way on the
World part. They're added to the from the Pot section
and we've got points to play with next week, so
please do tune in. It's our last episode of this
mini series, Festival Focus, Episode five, and it's it's a
(48:42):
free for all. We can talk about whatever we want,
so I look forward to that. Gents, Thanks to Martin,
thanks to Dave, thanks to Matt, and thanks for listening.
Hopefully you'll tune in again next week.
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