Festival Focus - #5 - Festival Fever

Martin Dixon, Matt Brocklebank and David Massey join Ben Linfoot to conclude their mini series on betting at the 2025 Cheltenham Festival, taking an overview of what they think will be making the headlines before finalising some bets.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, everyone, Welcome to Festival Focus, Episode five, the final
episode in our Cheltenham Festival mini series. Think of it
like a mini preview evening. We're going to go through
all four days focusing on the best bets at Presbury
Park next week. I'm your host, Benlin Footz. I'm joined
by Martin Dixon, Dave Massey and Matt Brocklebank, the usual panel,

(00:24):
and we're going to kick off on Tuesday. Chronological order
all the way here, and we're going to have a
talking point each day and ask the guys for what
they think the back paid page headlines are going to
be too, and we'll discuss all the bets as well.
So Martin Day one Champion Hurdle, Unibet Champion Hurdle, and

(00:44):
we weren't sure earlier in the series if she was
going to be there, but it looks like Brighter Days
Ahead is taking on Constitution Hill. That's the big talking
point on Tuesday and it should make for a hell
of a race.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, it's fantastic that she's going there. And she's taken
out of them mers this morning as we speak, hasn't
she So we know that that is absolutely concrete. Now,
sometimes these things are said, but then there's that element
of doubt that remains, but not a bit of it.
With brighter days ahead, She's definitely going to be taken
on Constitution Hill in the Champion Hurdling. This is when

(01:18):
I and I'm sure many others as well, really do
start to get excited about the Cheltenham Festival. It's only
six days away now, the final sort of confirmations and
entries are coming through have been through for the first
day of the meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Things start to clear up.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
We have a bit more of a handle on the
weather conditions compared to what we've had in previous weeks
when we've been playing a complete guessing game. As far
as that's concerned, it does look as if the festival
will very likely start on good to soft ground. I
think bookmakers pricing it up at one to six that
the ground is good to soft on day one. I
think we'll find a few better shorties than that, but

(01:55):
I would imagine that probably will be the conditions.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
That's value better, isn't it, Matt One to six good
to stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
I think we can again, like mine, I think we
can do better than that. But yeah, I'm glad that's
to hear that's where you're sort of pitching it, scoop.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
If I can do better than that, that might sound
like a success.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
But let's touch championheadle, Matt because brighted Day's ahead Constitution
Hill after it was a little bit underwhelming the Champion
Hurdle last year, and it feels like it needs a
bit of a blockbuster clash and we've got one we have.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
I like this sort of switch to four o'clock as well.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
That just sort of feels like we're building up to
it through the day as well, a little bit as well,
a bit.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
More than that. I know that's only mine, but yet
we were not going to get a huge field. We
knew that all along.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Fascinating to hear some of the sort of very latest
regarding losty Mouth. I still think there's a small chance
she might run in the Man's Race instead. But focusing
on the big two, you get into that time where
you sort of you have to hop off the fence,
don't you if you're having a bet, And for me,
Constitution Hill is still a horse to be I think
you getting a very fair price. When Brett brighter Day's

(03:03):
ahead is into what seven to four is she now
and Constitution Hill. If you're going to get four to
five on the day, I think you're looking at a
really good bet there. This just seems to me like
it was interesting, wasn't it saying how Nicky went again
with the public gallup, and when we were there at
the stable tour he sort of said.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Oh, you know, I will have a word with the
earli eries.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
You know they were desperate, certain they were desperate for
her to run the Mayor's Hurdle so he could have
a lovely little penalty kick. But this sets it up beautifully,
I think, not only bright to Day's Ahead, obviously King
of Kingsfield comes with her, and that just is fantastic
for the race because obviously bird Rose sounds like he's
going for the county, so you are going to get
a strong gallup.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
She needs it. Bright to Day's Ahead really does need
that gallup.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Who knows when she's going to pick up the running
from King of Kingsfield because he's a bit of a
sticky jumper, isn't He might just plub a one. You
don't want to get too close in behind him, I
don't think, But I can't see anything. But nick Wild
really enjoying that challenge and Constitution he'll thriving in that
sort of environment. We saw it in the SUPREMIU few
years ago where the end to end gallop really the

(04:09):
best in him.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
He hasn't had that scenario since. I hope it's this time.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Dave must say, what say you? I'm the champion hurdle.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
MAT's made the point, the right point about King of
Kingsfield is going to ensure that this is a reasonable test.
He can go a decent gallop for quite a while.
King of Kingsfield, for all that he might be a
bit he might have a touch of the softs about
him in the latter stages, which it's going to suit
them both, isn't it. You're right, that's right, Well, he says,
it's you know, she'll need it bright, the mayor will

(04:41):
need it bright to day. Dad's gonna need a good base.
But you know we've seen Constitution. He'll come off fast
paces as well. You know he'll be able to travel too.
He's just going to be a really interesting race for
the ages. Now you can see him both on the
bridle turning in. Can't you're both sort of traveling well?
And then who's then who wants it the most the Hill?
I think, honestly, I don't think there's much between them.

(05:03):
The more I sort of looked at it now and
when Age's going here, I don't know the lot this morning.
The more you look, the more you think on what
they've achieved this season and this season alone, you're probably
fancy brighter days ahead to come out on top.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Are we overlooking statement a little bit here as well?
By the way, because obviously he's got form.

Speaker 7 (05:20):
That you know ties him in closely with brighter days
to forget the forget the Christmas Day bark or that
wasn't him, but you know, did.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
You want to get a leper turnless time in the
Irish Champion? Are we Are we just overlooking him a
little bit at the price? Do we think? Or is it?
Are we just sort of saying this is now looking
a match? Do we think?

Speaker 5 (05:39):
I didn't think he showed quite the same spark.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
I know he was kind of left on his own obviously,
and I just didn't see enough in that race to
think that he's going to then suddenly pull out a performance.
You know, you go back to Constitution Hill winning. What
did he beat him?

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Nine?

Speaker 4 (05:53):
And then or something you know, perhaps from if you're
getting eight and nine runners, you could be m m
really Dave Massey about it and back in his way.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
I mean to.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
Me, honest to god, four minutes into the podcast, I've
already had one below the belt from him.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
No need, I have.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
You got now.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I have a couple of concerns about statement, chiefly that
I don't know that he's as good this year.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't think any of his form this season has
been as impressive as him at his best over the
last couple of years. And also I'm not completely convinced
that Cheltenham's the track where he produces his best form either.
He was, he made very hard work at winning it
last year. I mean it was a non event really
last year, and you know he was made to work
hard enough for it, and.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
That the year before.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Obviously, Constitution Hill at his best completely outclassed him. But
you know, he did totally annihilate him, didn't he It
was nine lengths but it could have been more. And
so there's a couple of doubts there as to whether
he's quite as good this season and whether he's quite
as good at Cheltenham and I think in this year's race,
you're not going to get away with the things that
he got away with in last year's race, so he

(07:08):
wouldn't be For me, I'd be surprised if he won it. Okay,
to be honest, I think constitution he'll will will win.
I mean, to me, he's looked like he's still got
his verve, his enthusiasm. I know he made the little
bit of a mistake. Well, he didn't make a bad
mistake at the last last time out, but aside from that,
at every point of both of his runs back this season,

(07:31):
to me, he's looked the winner of those races from
a very early stage, as he was entitled to. But
he probably blew up at Kempton first time back after
a year off the track, which is understandable in itself.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Cheltenham last time was just a cant around. Really.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I didn't think he was made it in any way
to work hard or extend himself fully, and it was
just another part of his preparation for this race, more
than anything to particularly judge him on. But he looks
like he's still got it to me, and I think
he'll take a while a beating.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, I tend to agree. I tend to agree with
that that if you get in, you know, anything towards
even money constitution, he'll because of brighter day's head presence
in the race. I think that's a pretty good bet
and he would be the backpage headline for me.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
What about you, Dave, Well, we're sort of saying.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
Before we came onto the podcast, we were discussing what
the weather's going to be next week at Cheltmen. And
for all that it's nice and warm now, the sun
is out and it sort of feels like spring is here,
there's a couple of the forecasts now suggesting that we
might get we might get a dusting of snow.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
Next week on Tuesday in the afternoon.

Speaker 7 (08:42):
I'm telling you, honestly, not the ones in the be now,
I'm telling you honestly, I've seen a couple of the
long range forecasts are just sort of suggesting, might be
a bit, might be a bit of snow, and sad
to you, the brilliant headlight.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
If we get the snow.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
If we get a bit of snow next Tuesday, and
then the headline could easily be it may have snowed,
but there are brighter days ahead.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, you've crow about it in so well done to
Norwegian forecast that you looked at this morning. Okay, let's
finish off Tuesday very quickly with anyone who's got a
bet for the day. I'm going to look at you, Matt,
you look like you've got one for day one.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
I have.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
I'll jump past all the kind of exciting grade one
stuff earner in the day and I'm going to leave
the ultimate as well till the day before. I mean,
I'm drawn to one at a big price in the
red winter. This is one of Gavin Cromwell's. Now I
quite like it when these Irish trainers come out and say,
oh God, they've been hammered by the handicapper, which he

(09:42):
has on paper. But it also shows me that you know,
they obviously quite fancied the horse.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
The horses Robbies Rock.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
This is a horse that was pretty decent on the flat,
rated in the kind of high seventies. He won up
to a mile and three quarter on good ground, and
Gavin crommoz sort of giving him a few sort of
good bits of experience. I like the fact he ran
him at Goldway that's always a good race to a
good track. Sorry to get that kind of experience and

(10:11):
that conditioning into a young horse.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
And then from there he went to Cork and he
actually beat as a three year old.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
He actually beat hardened older handicappers at Cork in a handicap.
Obviously he was exploiting quite a low mark at the
time one hundred and five in Ireland, but he was
well back to do so. And then last time I
was a listed handicap at Limerick just after Christmas there
and he can erased it back to front.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
It was a nine runner race.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Those sort of close to the pace got away from
the front and I don't think we saw anything like
the best of Robbie's Rock at all. He's a son
of Massage Coop. But I did ask you to do
some digging about some of the sire stats around this.
Obviously pretty new to Chelton runners them right and thinking
no runners at all Massa. But he's obviously responsible for
the favorite in this race as well, isn't he in Stencil?

(10:59):
But I think Robbie's Rock at twenty five to one
is underestimated on the back of a run last time
out that didn't work out, and he's got that good
ground form as well, so rain shine or snow. I
think he's covered as well in terms of ground.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Okay, he can get thirty three to one Robbish rot
look have him before we move on today two as Martin,
our day, have got anything that wants to do on
day one? That's wise.

Speaker 7 (11:21):
I suppose the only other one I want to throw
in if we're going to get better ground next week
on the Tuesday, if he goes with William Swagger also
in the also in the tread Winter, I think he
could be quite interesting.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
The dot round solo.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
With him a couple of weeks ago, just to sort
of keep him on the go. I think I think
good ground is almost essential to his chance, and he's
got got useful platform. I think what he's done so
far over here is okay, but I still think there's.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
A bit more to come from him.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Frosty ground absolutely fine, great on, frost great on. He
was very cold that night and there was there was
definitely some crossed around.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
That note Martin.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
How about you, yeah, Matt, was it you last week
that mentioned Melina.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Girl for the ultimate or was that on?

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yes, a little bit in that the twenty and twenty
five to one is gone hasn't it.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
But she's interesting, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
I mean I've only just sort of come to the
race again today after the after the you know, confirmations,
and I was going going down it coming up with
a provisional shortlist, and it was the first time I'd
paid close attention to her. But I do think she's
very interesting in the ultimate I think you you you
had made the case last week about her, but you

(12:38):
go back and look at how she was running in
that race in December of twenty twenty three last season
off one forty six. She's you know, she's far lower
than that, isn't she. It does look as if her
campaign has been completely geared around the spring festivals.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
This time.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
They didn't bring her back until New Year's Day, and
then she's run really well at Exeter. She's got course form,
she's she is well handicapped. I think she looked like
she was going to play a big role in that
that race off a higher mark fifteen months or so.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Ago, and I would have I would have air of
serious interest, I think, to be honest, I haven't realized. Yeah,
I don't know if he'll ride or yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't know if he'll he'll ride, or he's got
experience on her obviously previously, or whether whether Sean Flanagan
will ride, or I don't know, Gavin Sheen rode at Exeter.
I suspect that won't be the case coming to the
Shelton Festival stick with one of his home riders, weren't he,
But I.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Do think she's very interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
It was her and the short go for Henry de
Brohmed was the other one that had sort of highlighted
and my initial look at the race, who ran really
well back in the autumn this track possibly should have
beaten his sturble mate one of the autumn meetings over
this course and distance at Cheltenham gets in off a
very light work right at the bottom of the work,
it's off one thirty two. I was interested in those

(14:09):
two for the for the ultimate yeah, shortest price of
the day. For for the shortest price of the day
for Tuesday is march Borough. Should we have a quick
four and against I'd be for.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Him, Yeah, I'm against him. Yeah, I just think yeah,
I just I would just worry a little bit about
his jumping in in a you know, a two mile
championship event at Cheltenham, and I just I want to
take him on. I think load of I think load

(14:43):
of SuDS, a massive player on on what's likely to
be good to soft ground as well. I thought he
really appreciated that sort of ground when he won there
earlier in the season. So how about you, Dave.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
I was against imagine, I think at the price for
all that, for all that it was, you know, it
looks impressed on paper. There was definitely some there were
definitely there was definitely room for him to improve. His
jumping wasn't about Leopardstown. And you know, if he's got
any chinks in his honor, as you say this, he's
going to get He'll get found out here.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
You can't.

Speaker 7 (15:14):
You can't go to Cheltenham and make him as much
as one mistake one by missat that they'll do for you,
and that to me, I think others will get him
under pressure fairly early here.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Okay, let's move on today too, and we've we've spoken
lots about John Bond in this series. So the talking
point that I was going to bring up is the
new lion in the Turners and can he sink the
dreaded cello hurdles stat at last not from twenty Cello
heard hurdle winners in what is now the Turner's Novices Hurdle.

(15:46):
So I'll come to you to day first. What do
you think?

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Yeah, I think he can. I like the new line
a lot. He's been.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
He's impressed me every time I've seen him this season,
not just with what he's done, but physically as well.
And I know I wasn't at the Dan Skelton Open morning,
which it was about ten days ago, I think a
couple of weeks ago, but my esteemed work colleague Vickey
something a photon just said, look at him now, and
he's grown.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
He's crowned again. Since since Newbury he's come on again.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
He looks an absolute We use the word monster a lot,
don'g me in racing sort of describe horses, but he is.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
He is a proper.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Mosterday.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
I don't know there's a million monster or not. I
don't know. I mean, that's that's it the debate, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
I mean, you know, I don't know the details, but.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
We're all guessing as too, you know, we no one days.
But yeah, listen, everything has done this.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
It isn't just a case of he's a good two
and a half mile ages of two and a half
miler with gears. I think that's that's going to stand
him in good stud Come come the Come the Wednesday.
The more you sort of look at the race, actually
it's good. This is, this is There's still quite a
few in here that's in there's in other races. It
could cut up again yet, I think could call up
again yet the turners. But I've liked the new line

(17:05):
you say from the word I was loucky enough. I
think to see him market raising, market raising last year
in his month and debut, and all he's done, all
he's done both physically and visually in his races, is
impressed and that the figures back it up as well.
It's not just a case of he's done it visually.
Time figures back him up, the ratings back him up.

(17:25):
The challo gets a bad name, it throws winners up
the challo.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
It just doesn't. It just doesn't throw what winners of
this He's just you know, he's always a discerent race.
The Challow and this year is shallow was a good
one as well because it was on it was on
better ground normally that that challo is on on deep ground,
and that wasn't the case this time around. Wasn't at Newbury.
It was on ground that.

Speaker 7 (17:44):
Isn't going to be a million miles away from next
week probably, so actually he's had a break since he'll
be on ground that we know we'll be fine on.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
I think he wins.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Okay, Matty could be a very short price. If the
final demand goes to the Albert Butler.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Well that's problem. Yeah, that's the problem from my point
of view. I suppose that's the thing. If you look
at it now and you say who are the kind
of three most exciting promising novices, you would say Copec,
they Board, you would say the New Lion, and you'd
say final demand, And often how it works outs by
all the hype and who's going to run where? Often
it works out where this were of each other and

(18:20):
there's a race breach of them. Perhaps that will unfold
next week. We don't quite know that yet. That yet,
I would love to see the New Lion take on
the Mullen's horse. But I do think he's They covered
just about everything. I would add that he is probably
the slickest novice hurdler jumper that I've seen for a
long long time. I'm really impressed with how he pops

(18:42):
from one side to another, and that's such a huge
thing when their pressure's on coming down the hill at chelten,
and that's going to be huge, hugely in his favor.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
And you kind of look at the winners of.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
The Cello and that you sort of think soft ground, Well,
this horse was a non runner on two three occasions
because of soft ground during his bumper days. I think
he could be even better if he gets on some
frosty spring ground. Dave, I think he's ready to be
ready to peak again.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Martin thoughts on the new line and the turners.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
There's not much to add really, I don't have a
strong opinion on it at this stage. Sounds and the
guy guys have covered it neatly. I mean that the
quicker the ground conditions, the more obviously speed is going
to come into it. And I'd imagine they are two
horses that are going to end.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Up down different lines.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I think Final Demand will end up over over three
miles in his novice chase season in all likelihood, and
the New Lion will probably, you know, if there's a
champion hurdle horse amongst the novices. It could be him,
and we've seen champion hurdleers win this race and drop
back in the past. Dan Skelton's alluded to the fact
that he wouldn't have any concerns about dropping him back

(19:55):
in trip such.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
As his pace the New Lion.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
So if it does keep drying out and those are
the conditions that we get, then he might just have
the tools to deal with final demand. I was more
initially in the final demand camp, but as it gets
closer and we're seeing the forecast, it does probably push
it that other way a little bit. And the market
has gone that way as well, hasn't it. I think
the new line's favorite for it.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Okay, Mattin, we'll stick with you. You can have first
DIBs on the back page headlines for Wednesday. I know
you're a massive John Bond Fanny, You're going down that road.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's got it. That will be the headline, won't it.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
And I think I do think he's going to take
a lot of stop in this year. We talked about
him the other week. There are horses you can make
a bit of a case for a prices each way
but realistically, on this season's form, it's very hard to
pick holes in him. Really, he has his Cheltenham knockers
and whether he's as good there. We discussed that the

(20:53):
other week again, didn't we But ultimately he's beaten most
of the key opposition pretty comfortably already. This seasons are
more grown up and relaxed horse and I hope he
does get the headlines anyway, because to be fair for
his for for the work that he's put in through
his career, he very much deserves them.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, Matt, we expect to be wheeling out John bon
Joville on the Spot and Life website again, Yeah, I do.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
I think he's right solid.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Another theme for me this week is that these French
houses are going to perform above market expectations, Scoop and
I think you Maderic will go really close, hopefully win
the cross country chase and that'll tears up nicely heading
into Thursday with he led safe line the flag in
the rhino chase.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Okay, but he's not going to steal the page headlines
from John bon is he?

Speaker 5 (21:43):
That's you might get he'll get a sport in my headline.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
He might not, might not be sports back pages, as
we get headlines before.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
We get as we get close, as we get closer
and closer, I do think Byrne I was doing a
preview night last Friday, and I kind of it was
becoming clearer and clearer. We're likely to be getting decent
ground conditions, and you know, my concern with him, like
many people would always have been, you know, will he
truly get home if the race is a proper slog

(22:18):
of a race and a real stayers test, because of
how strong traveling he can be at times. But I
think under the conditions that were likely to have next week,
I think he will just completely outclass the horses that
he's in against, and of the Mullins horses. Not sure
what price is right now as we speak. Actually he
might have it in front of you, but when I

(22:38):
was looking last week, he was sort of a seven
seven to four that sort of price, and I.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Do think he'll just get shorter and shorter.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
And for me, he's up against second rateers really, and
he is a potential Mullins star of the future, a
horse that could win open grade ones, possibly will win
open grade ones next season. I just don't think there's
anything of that caliber in the field, and the concert
turns about Stammina getting less and less as we look
for towards a dry forecast.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Okay, is anyone taking on bally Burn? We think Dave
come like?

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Not for me? No, I don't think so. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Now. He looked a monster last year, didn't he hitt
the festival? And I think people are.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Going to Yeah, I think yeah, I think he could
do similar again.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean, he's just he's just a much classier better
He's just a better horse than Dancing City, isn't he.
Dancing City could be a sort of Gold Cup soft
heavy ground Gold Cup horse in the future, to run
him in that sort of race, But this is three
miles drying, drying ground, and I think bally Burn's sheer
ability will just shine through against her. As I say,

(23:47):
largely second racers.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I think the only thing on my mind with him
is he hasn't really improved for offense, has it now?
I think that's a lot because he was he was
such a good hurdler, But often with these child of
novices you see improvement from hurdles defenses and oh it's
very early day. Yeah, yeah, just on my mind it's

(24:08):
just a little thing with City.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
I mean, he's one of them who was clearly pretty
raw as a novice hurdler, and it took him quite
a while as an Nobb's hurdler to establish himself at
the top table.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
And he is very much an old fashioned chaser, is he.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
But yeah, and the closer I'm getting to it, I'm
very similar to Martin that this is a host with
a bit of bit of stardom about him, and he's
going to keep an eye on those in behind.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
I know Willie Wullens is going to run three or four.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
I think we saw a few years ago with gay
I do Maniel was teed up nicely for like an
Irish Grand National bid. I think we're looking at that
potentially with maybe high class Hero or Lecky Watson. So
keep an eye on those for running on in the
places in behind with those races in mind.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, Dave Massei, if you got a bet for day
two of your.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Sleeve, I've already had a couple of small bits.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
I took another quicklock this morning at the Handicaps on
the Tuesday and the Grand Annual good Ground. There's an
old there's a Northern horse in there that will suit,
you know, and he could go well after a break.
Old fringleed Dyke fifty to one. He's got he's basically
a summer jumper. He's got off good ground. He'll definitely

(25:21):
get a run.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
And I keep looking at him thinking, listen, he's it's
probably not his thing. He's used to smaller fields.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
So and the one time he did running a big
field last year, he got lost, but he was for
whatever reason that wasn't he's running. I'd put a line
through that. But look he's going to be. He's going
to be a whopping price next week.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
I wouldn't he can travel. I wouldn't be at all
surprised if that hit the frame at a big price
next week. Fringle diyke. If the Grand stays on the
good side.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Fringle Dyke fifty is in the Grand Annual. That's what
he likes to say.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
Dave my sort of price, scoop.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Martin, have you got a Betford Day two.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
I'll definitely be back in valley.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
But and if he's hovering around six to four, thirteen
to eight, that sort of price, I mean, I think
he might get shorter, but I just think as well,
I've already touched on it. But I also think that
if you look back and look at that two mile
run against ser Gino, I suspect that time will tell
that that was actually a very very good performance over
a completely and an adequate trip.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I don't know if you.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Noticed, but the third horse, Brookie, who was tailed off,
he came out and won a handicap at Donnie the
other day off one thirty. And obviously Rubert Ruber couldn't
go to the gallop from halfway and he was He's
obviously won a won a nice race since as well.
So I just think there were two They are two

(26:41):
top notchers that were in against each other, and clearly
he's not a two mile there is he.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
But I think it was probably a good run in hindsight.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Absolutely, Matty, you just sticking with is her? Matrick?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh No, there's gonna be There's gonna be a few
bets on day two.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I mean, at this stage it's arlament.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Yeah, I need to know where to touch me.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Not's running Obviously he's left him in the Arkle, which
is a bit annoying. But I think if he runs
him in the Grand Annual, he's going to be interesting,
classy horse, he's only a six year old, seems to
be learning on the job, good jumper, strong traveler, out
in front, well prominent ride. He's been second to Load
of Southern, second to Masbra, so if his form's looking

(27:25):
pretty rosy, he's going to be shorter than ten twelve
to one for.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
The Grand Annual.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
And there's another Elliot horse which in the Coral Cup,
which has to be worth the mention. Is this Maxim
who just wins big handicap hurdles. He won up the
DRF last year and then he ended the season winning
at the Punchestown Festival as well, and he just looks
like he's added something extra to his to his well
to his resume this time around, definitely, because he's won

(27:52):
a graded race last time out form which has worked
out well just over the weekend, so it was a
late form boost for Maxim. He's going to look high
in that. He's going to look high enough in the
way it's one hundred and fifty, but I would be
surprised to see him outrun his odds from a prominent
pitch as well in the Crawl Cup.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Okay, let's move on today. Three Dave MASSI, I'm going
to come to you for the talking point first off,
and it's will I take to Cheltenham because I think
we're ninety percent shur is going to run in the
Ryan air. Now, maybe it's a higher percentage than that,
and we've discussed him briefly on the podcast in previous shows.

(28:29):
But it's a big talking point, isn't it. Given olive form,
certainly from what we've seen of him in Britain at
Kempton on a flat track, can he repeat that sort
of form on the unculations at Chelmham.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
I mean when you sort of said this question through
and I thought, well, it's it's we haven't any evidence
to the contrary that he definitely won't go around Chelting.
Just because it's all flat tat form at the moment
doesn't mean that he won't go around. He won't go
around challeng It's not like he's had three or four
goals around the place and he's blown out every time.

(29:02):
So I think in terms of will you handle Cheltenham
or not, I think that's a I think that's a
very hard question to answer, and I know that's sort
of sitting on the fence a bit but I just
I just think it is because we haven't we haven't
any evidence to the contrary. What's got to be more
of a worry with for me is the fact that he's,
you know, of his last fall starts, he's burst twice.

(29:24):
That's got to be more of a worry, hasn't it
than than whether he acted Cheltenham? Maybe maybe the demands
of Cheltenham, you know, and what it puts on a horse,
does that make him more likely to burst?

Speaker 6 (29:35):
A blood? Vestlon? I don't know. I'm not a vet.
I don't know these things.

Speaker 7 (29:38):
But you know, as a punter, you'd have to look
at that and go, well, you know, this is a
horse that has had issues.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
I think that would.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
Be more of a worry for me, scoop them, whether
he'll he'll act around around Cheltenham's undulations at this stage anyway.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Okay, what do you think Martin? Because he's some sight
over offence, isn't it what we've seen at Kempton two
years running?

Speaker 8 (30:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I mean I don't I don't have any real reservations
to be honest as to whether you know Dave's Dave's
point is valid with regards to you know, having bursed
a couple of times and that that could be a concern,
but obviously his last run was was really good that
kept him very fresh since But in terms of the track,
it wouldn't concern me hugely just looking at his racing style,

(30:28):
his enthusiasm is good jumping technique. I think it's particularly
on on what could be goodish grounded and next week
it's it's kind of what you'd what you'd want really
and and obviously over the intermediate trip is a strong
stayer of him just been run down in a in
a King George. So no, it wouldn't it wouldn't concern

(30:48):
me massively based on based on the evidence that we've got.
Obviously we don't have evidence of him going there, so
it's it's difficult to say outright, but just looking at
him as an individual, how he is and how he
humps and performs, I think his attributes would be more
of a positive than anything at Cheldenham.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Okay, Matt, what about you? Because he could end up
being a fairly short price favorite here depending on how
the week's going. If factor Faile goes to the Gold Cup,
we're not quite sure yet. See the sort of hoars
you'd want to take on.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
He could go our favorite even with factor file there.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I genuinely think the regard in which he's held, I
don't think we've quite got there yet. I really do
think that they think this is a superstar, and you know,
it's quite hard to argue against it given when he's
on song, he is absolutely electric and as Martin said,
you know that attacking sort of dashing ride in a

(31:43):
ryanair Chase is really exciting. You could certainly see him
trading a lot shorter than what is he three to
one seventy two trading in running It'll be a question of,
you know, has he got enough to come up the
hill at the end of it all, because I suspect
he's going to put in a pretty impressive first Interesting again,
listening to Noel George talk about you, they'd just like

(32:04):
to think that they'd get into a nice rhythm out
in front and saving enough for the for the final burst.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
It's the price thing.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, I do think he will get shorter, So if
you if you're looking to play now, then I couldn't
put anyone off him at seven to two.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, a bigger prices.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
I'm drawn to Henry de brohmaed'ss Jungle Boogie ran so
well in the Gold Cup last year as one from
one this season has been kept fresh for it. I
do think it's been a scratchy season for Henry de Brumhad,
but I do think he's gonna have a few horses
run above expectations. Look when it comes to Cheltenham and
you know you're looking at all these Willia Mullen's short

(32:43):
priced favorites, I'm always going to be drawn to Henry
de broum Head Gavin Cromwell.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
That just sort of like that run.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Down because you're getting inflated prices potentially about a few
of these. But he doesn't quite have the form yet
to match up to factor file and and I say
that about an eleven year old, but he's so like
he raised, and he is very talented. I just I'd
love to see him round shouting them over this trip
because what he did in the in the Gold Clup
last year just screamed Ryan Air to me.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
I think he'll give you a run for your money.
At the very least.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Dave must say, what do you think the Thursday headlines
are going to.

Speaker 7 (33:14):
Be Well, no, you're asking. I think I don't know
whether I'll actually concern this. So whether we might be
sort of looking at to Hoopy winning the getting the
three tea for three?

Speaker 6 (33:28):
There you go about that tee for three? Would that
work for you?

Speaker 7 (33:31):
There's a headline You're going to have to explain it well,
to Hoopy winning, be stirred?

Speaker 6 (33:37):
Won't it?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Second?

Speaker 6 (33:46):
How that works? Doesn't it? You put him me on
the spot for two works, doesn't it? There you go?

Speaker 1 (33:52):
You'll go with that, Martin? Who's going to start?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Ah? Oh, it's this is difficult because I mean I've
made a case for Envoy Allen bouncing back, haven't I?
In earlier in last week when we're on at a
big price in the Ryan.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Air, I feel like that could be a.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Race that causes a little bit of an upset. But
you know, like with any you get to this stage
with these races in particular sort of conditions races, I
kind of want to be looking at the final fields
and what the shape of the races are tactically and
everything like that to really have a view.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
It's difficult where the headline would come.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I could see the Ryan Air potentially overshadowing the stayers.
You know, I think that could be the race that
throws the biggest headlines anywhere. Put it that way, I
think I think it will be a more well contested
grade one that probably produces a higher caliber winner than
the stayers hurdle in a week division.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, headlines definitely up for grabs some thing on day
three before we move on to Gold Cup Day it
Does anyone get any bets at this stage.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
I've got probably my strongest opinion of the week in
this this day. I think it's this day the new
rate the Jack Richard's novices limited on.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
The first day.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, I think we could be looking at horses higher
up in the weights in this that might potentially just
to blow it apart. I know a lot of people
will be scrumbling around for the horse that's been sort
of potted up best down the weights. But I love
this horse called Jordan's terrible name, isn't It's Joseph o'
bryant's horse. He came from France. He's a six year old.

(35:38):
He came with a little bit of chase experience as well.
He'd probably been jumping fences since he was you know,
three he's with Joseph. He's not done a great deal wrong.
He chased home his stable makes San Salvador earlier in
the season. Then he beat that mom Beg Park again
form that was boosted at the weekend, tipped up very
early on it.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
He had no chance.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
He even seated when he was not sideways in the
in the punches, great to the Cradits town. And then
he's gone to Limerick over Christmas and bumped into impair pass,
well say, bumped into He was a really lovely staying
on run sixteen to one from sort of off the
pace and he gets in here. Well, his Irish mark
went up to one four five on the back of

(36:18):
that Grade one and he gets in here off one
four eight. So in terms of those Irish arts being
you know, clubbed by the British handicapper's, he's probably got
away with it a little bit and going up three
and you know, I think if there's a horse that
could just prove to be a cut above and really
blow this handicapp apart, it's Jordan's.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Well, okay, it's a really interesting race. It's very different
to the old race which had a one four or
five ceiling and you're going to see these better class
of horses competing in it. Definitely anyone else on the
THURSDA before we move.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
On, there's just a couple of clearing up points to make.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I think it's become a little bit clearer where John
Joe o'neils might be running because Hasty is the horse
that was left in the National Hunt Chase on the Tuesday,
so that would and Johnny Who was taken out, so
that is likely to mean Johnny Who going to.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
The kim Mure on the Thursday.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
He has duly been really well backed already, but he's
a horse that went into a few notebooks well for
a couple of runs earlier on in the season, so
he's now been backed into favorite for the kim Mule.
Could maybe Derrek O'Connor end up on him. I think
JP also earns Sama Jess doesn't he mullins his horse
who is second favorite at the moment for that. So

(37:35):
it's just something to keep an eye on. Maybe when
jockey bookings come through there could be some movements in that.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Confirmed today Martin Yeah who Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh okay, I didn't. I hadn't seen that yet, okay,
so well.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, well, that's why it's been backed yet.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely no.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
He's sort of fallen gone through the floor with his price,
hasn't he. But that's something to pick up on. And
spring Well Bear was taken out of the arcle John
dree O'Neill at market raising yesterday suggesting that you know,
either the Jack Richards or the Plate will be the
likeliest destination for spring Well Bear. So we're probably going

(38:15):
to be seeing him on this day on the Thursday.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Okay, let's move on to the Friday section. Gold Cup Day,
all about gallupin de shots. We've talked a lot about
him throughout the series, particularly in episode one, which was
all about the Gold Cup, and I'm sure we'll be
talking about him when we mentioned the back page headlines.
But that is the talking point I've gone with because
we will get to him. The talking point, Matt is

(38:40):
what price does copek de May go off for the
Martin Pipe. Now I've set a line of overall under
five to two, So you going with this, you're buying
our selling five to two.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
It's got to be it's got to be over five
to two.

Speaker 8 (38:54):
Surely, I mean, okay, to be fair, I mean, I'm
just looking at the price now, he's actually currently three
to one, isn't he.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I mean a lot will depend on the week that
Mullins has had, probably and the week that favorites generally
have had as well. To some extent, you know, I
think that he could be a horse that's involved because
of his because of the hype surrounding him in the
in the build up that that has undoubtedly been over
the last couple of weeks. I'm quite amazed that he's

(39:26):
three to one at the moment, to be honest with you,
But the fact that all that hype's been there about
him suggests that he could well be a horse that's
involved in plenty of people's roll ups. And it goes
on to the final race of the meeting as well.
So could although it's although it's a handicap, it could
have some liablity, you know, a bit more liability than

(39:47):
you might expect attached to it, given you know, you'd
expect low liabilities in the handicaps at this stage for
the Childman Festival. But he could be one with a
little bit more going on to him by the end
of the week.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
Potentially that's it.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
If I observed won the County Hurdle again and galloping
the champs won the cup and finally.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I'm still going to go over five to two.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Just a serious point, Dave. You can have a half
two stone well in in a channel and handicap and
get beat, can't you. I mean, I'm thinking the likes
of Gaelic Warrior in the fred Winter. He was obviously
lobbed in that day and still got beat.

Speaker 7 (40:26):
Well exactly, there's so many things that that that can
go wrong, and we've often heard of. I think in
this race, was it it was gallop on the shop
that won this, wasn't it? And defeat and beat a
gamble in the race, didn't it? At the time, what
was the one that was saying that the gamble?

Speaker 6 (40:40):
Her dad, dad? Yeah, So these things happen. These things
happen in this race. You know, you get these gambles.
I think I sort of said a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 7 (40:49):
You know, quite often at this stage we're sort of
a week and half out and if you think, if
you think you've seen one that's under the radar, you've
been told one that's under the radar, and that it's
well in, chances are it ain't you know it's on
the day. They suddenly there's gambles on the day that
suddenly appear from from nowhere on hors that you wouldn't
even have considered. And then you start looking at there
for oh yeah, actual, I can see why the yeah,

(41:11):
you know, and all that sort of stuff. Listen, it's
got to go off. It's got to go off bigger,
hasn't it. I know it's the last race of the day,
so a lot's going to depend on, you know, what's
happening on the rest of the day. If the favorites
have all gone in, it could go off very very short.
It could go off very short, but I would just sorry,
go on, it's got to go off.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
It's got it. It's got to go off bigger than
fire to two, hasn't it.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's got you all think I've gone too low, don't you.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
You're mad, You're mad, you're alluded to.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
I'll fight in your corner, Scoop, because I'm on spotlight
at the minute. You can read Willie Mullins Stable Tour,
and one of the really interesting lines about this was,
I think it was when he was talking to pran Berry.
He said something about at the start of the season,
they thought he was going to be a top notch
and of his chaser, but things haven't quite worked out,

(42:04):
so they've decided to stay down the hurdling route. So
if they kind of thought this was, maybe, you know,
going to be mixing with mad brain an Arkle, then
maybe his mark is a bit of a gift after all.
But obviously you're playing it frighteningly short odds in it
with a.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Horse king completely guessing on really, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
That's it. We will see what happens with May and
the Martin pipe is he lobbed in off a mark
of one three six. But the backpage headlines are going
to be about him, surely, are they? Mat in there?
I'll let you go on the gold.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
It's got it's got to be. I've not got a
headline for you. I'd be terrible at it. I was
actually I was actually racking my brains trying to come
up with it, and all I could think was, I'm
really bad at this. I'm really really bad at so
I've got.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, well it could be. That would be a bit.
I mean, I'd say.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
If that's all they can come up with, it's a
bit of a crab head that's first. But either either
either way, I think it will will be revolving around
Gallup and the Champs winning.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
His third Gold Cup.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yes, in all likelihood again Banbridge, we talked in our
first show about if it was good ground, and obviously
at that stage we had no idea at all. I'd
imagine that the Friday could end up being the softest
ground of the week. Just there's a chance looking at it.
I mean it is a long range forecast, admittedly at

(43:32):
the moment, but there's a chance that they could get
a little bit of rain, maybe by the end of
the week perhaps. But you know, if it if it
was good to soft good ground, Banbridge, he'd have a
chance of shaking him up anyway, wouldn't he. But all
things considered, you know, we know who the horse to
beat here is and I haven't had a bet in

(43:52):
the race yet. Providing that I don't, I hope that
he goes because I won't be back in him at
two to five. Providing that I don't, I want him
to go and win.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, if if Chelmon avoids your snowstorm, Dave, then Bambridge
comes into the conversation, doesn't he think you?

Speaker 7 (44:10):
I think you've overgregged the pudding a bit there, Scoop.
I mentioned the light flakes. I wasn't saying we're going
to be under six foot or anything like that. On Tuesday.
I think I think you've hung me out to dry
a bit there. Yeah, listen, I still you know what,
even on even on good ground, I still worry about
that final. I'd still worry about that final three hundred
yards for Bambridge, I really would. I hope I'm wrong,

(44:33):
because I do love the horse. I've always you know,
he's a horse I've always enjoyed watching. If you go
back to he's running a novice chase around here a
couple of years ago, the November meeting, when I've not
seen a horse, I'm not seen a novice ping round
shouting him like he did under pressure as well. I
think Tommy's Oscar was on the front with him, giving
him some base pressure and he pinged everything.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
And when he the way he came up at the.

Speaker 7 (44:55):
Last when he was a tired horse, I thought, I
thought it was one of the best performances I've seen
from a novice around cheating him and he deserves a
big race around here again another one and I just
worried about that last three hundred, George.

Speaker 6 (45:06):
It's a big concern for me. But Ibe I'm wrong, Okay, Matt.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Anything to add on the Gold Cup before we tackle
best bets for Friday.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
I know, other than that, I've got a little cool
on Corbette's Cross.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Nothing in particular.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
I'll see how the market is shaping up, obviously, but
I have warmed a little bit to Monty style.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
I know Martin.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Made half at least half a case for a couple
of weeks ago, and we've talked about the Gold Cup
first time around it again, I'm interested in hearing what
Henry de brother is saying. He's just sort of coming
to the boil. He still needed to run in the
Irish Gold Cup. Obviously, he's got lengths to find, but
he could just be one of them of Henry's that's
ridden for a place and picks up some of the pieces.

(45:49):
I do think this hoss still has a little bit
of untapped potential, and he's got a bit of in
the pedigree, hasn't.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
He's a half brother Demonol.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
He was placed in the Gold Cup as well, so
there's just enough there, I think Montester.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
I mean He's not a huge price, is he.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
That's the problem you've got is that you know a
horselight him with eight lengths to find on the favorite.
You know it should typically in a Gold Cup be
a big, chunky price, But because of the lack of
real sort of depth to the race in general, then
he's only you might only get twelve fourteen to one.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
But if I'm going to be drawn into a race.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Because I do love to try and tackle a race
like this when everyone thinks it's a foregone conclusion, but
ultimately I also would agree with that idea.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Okay, gallop into the history books the best we can
do a thing at this stage, but we've got a
week and more to think of something. Martin, anything on
the radar best wise for Friday at this.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Stage, Yeah, I'm pretty keen on car Geesee for the
County Hurdle. I think you kind of. She's obviously had
a very light season. She's only had the run at Ascot,
which probably you can look at it and say it
was disappointing to be turned over it two to five,
but obviously it was her first start for a long time.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
It was a smallish field.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
And she looked the best horse in the race for
a long way, didn't she, And she probably was just
done by the lack of a recent run as much
as anything. So she went through it like she still
retains all of her ability anyway, and you kind of you,
you know, you go back to her juvenile form last season.
She's won the grade ones at Leopardstown and Punchestown, and

(47:33):
she's been beaten by Mageboro and Sergino in Cheltenham and Entry.
So it every not every year that the juvenile hurdle
cropper as strong as that, because I think we could
all agree that Majbur and Sergino a pretty extraordinary for
horses coming out of the juvenile division, so she was

(47:54):
right up amongst them. She's got a rating of one
hundred and forty one. Fast paced will suit her onn it.
She's such a strong traveling and I think although she's
got plenty of form on soft ground, she has got
a lot of pace and I wouldn't be surprised if
she ended up going a shorter price than obsurd To
be honest, I think she's got a little bit more

(48:15):
upside being as lightly raised and as young as what
she is.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Okay, keg you see in the County Hurdle Dave.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
I think that the best better the week runs on
the Friday, if you're willing to wait for the willing
to wait for East India Dock. The more I look,
the more I just think it just ticks every every
single box that you're looking for. And you can argue
still that it might be it might have been a
better question to ask skip whether East India Dock goes
off bigger or shorter than six to four on the day,

(48:47):
because I could see them really coming for East India
Dock with the ground going to stay on the good
side as well. This also has just been it's just
been so impressive in everything that it's done. It's hurdling
his slick, it's got gears go on good ground. The
time figures are fantastic, everything everything about him. You just
it's just bang solid. And you can argue that the

(49:07):
two to to one is still a very fair price
for me. I think he's got he's just got one
to beat as far as I can see in the
Lambert and he's got more question marks against him the
East Indian Dock has, and yet they're a very similar price.
So for me, I think East India dock is going
to take an awful lot of beating, and I say
he goes off eleven to eight scoop has that?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Okay? Well, I'll let you said the questions next time, Daves,
if you know you're going to get lightly. But I'm
opposition marted. Isn't it because they're Irish? They're a bit
They're a bit in the division?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I mean, yeah, Galileo, Galileo Dam could run well, couldn't she?
Because she's she's I think she'll be suited by the
staying test of a triumph on the on the new course,
extra little bit of trip for her and possibly a
stronger gallop. I'd imagine that it'll be quite a big
field and they should go a gallop. And she she

(50:05):
does look a stayer and she's got some very classy
flat flatform to her name, so she could be on
a bigger prices each way. She's got the option to
go into the mers Novice as well. Galile heard him.
If she ran in that should be very interesting as well.
But I do agree with all of Dave's comments about
East India.

Speaker 6 (50:22):
Doc.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I've been with him right through the winter, really and
certainly no reason to step away from him.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Now okay, well let's wrap this up because we've still
got about six points to play with, I think in
the from the pot section. So just final words for
the series. Your best bet of the week and we'll
take it. Will take it from the pot. So you
can have East India Doc if you want, Dave.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
Well, hang on, oh, hang on a minute.

Speaker 7 (50:49):
We said if there was points left, definitely having a
bet in the fox Hunters.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Have you got one?

Speaker 7 (50:57):
I would like please half a point each way on
Angel's breath in the in the fox Hunter's Place.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Okay, he's got hasn't he in the in the book.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
From Was it two years back or.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Longer three years? It might be? Actually, yes, you're right.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Yeah, h so Angels Angel's breath?

Speaker 6 (51:24):
Where's this? Where's this? He says?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Well, I was thrown because the favorites called Angel's Dawn
and it threw me. So okay, I put each way
thy three to one Angel Breath.

Speaker 6 (51:34):
Thank you, Matt.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Yeah, I've mentioned Jordan's as a as a strong fancy.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
You want.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
He's not messing about, is he? Jordan's is what I want? Jordan's.
Let's go with that.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, okay, fourteen to one.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
In the novice handicapped chase. Yeah, lovely stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah okay, and Martin last word to.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
You, well, I think I think, given Matt mentioned the
last week, I know she's got a little bit shorter,
but I think she'll I think she'll get shorter again,
Malina Gil To be honest with you, I think there's
a good case for she's got that handy handicap experience
at Cheltenham. She's on a good mark. I think Cromwell
will start the week well anyway, and yeah, she she.

(52:24):
I think we should have something on her, given that
Matt mentioned the last week, and I've done the race
today and and thought along similar lines. We've got to
get rid of the twenty points somehow, haven't we. I
mean I think I think I think bally burn I
think I think bally Burne is going to take an
awful lot of beating in the in the the the

(52:47):
have the have the rest on bally burn and East
India dock maybe or.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
I can get on I can get on board of
the East Indian dot chuck it all.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
On, Okay, so I'll just go over there. I'll just
go over the selection, will it? De Hi No Orden,
Ridgio Golden as Corbett's Cross, It's he O Madrick, Happy
Go Lucky, the Wallpark and Today's Angels Breath, Jordan's and
Melina Girl and anything left, anything at all. Have the

(53:18):
East India Dot Balleyburn Double and we'll leave it there.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
What we're saying, let's have it, Scoob, Let's have it.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
It sounds good. Listen, guys, thank you so much for
joining me on this mini series. I've really enjoyed chatting
about the Chelman Festival with you all. Thank you for
listening and who knows, there might be another mini series
coming to you soon, but if not, just enjoyed Cheltenham.
Have a good one.