Horse Racing Podcast: Dual Purpose performers

Our team look back on Ayr forward to Fairyhouse and back on the Classic trials and head to the two Guineas.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Sporting Life.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, look along to the spot and Life for Racing
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to record this week's episode of the Company of Billy Nash.
David Johnson and Grenn Colling the and GC. You don't
need to be our usual set.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
In either I'm not going all or Paul's well, thanks
for having me on the show. Dame to start, I'm
still books on the road between York and Beverly, on
the way to Beverly for eight contests of skill and science.
I'm trying to win in the corner. And this is
a safe space. You zooming if I feel unsafe for
whatever reason. I am not alone apparently, so all's good.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's good to stay alone for the domage of the podcast.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
GC.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's all we asked jud for sound quality reasons. Thank you,
thank you. I'm going to We're going to start Billy Nash.
We are going to start with the Coppler's Grand National.
Last week really threw sick at it and came up
with a one two Captain Cody coming out on top
and Clark and could British train this title. He's got
his bit between his teeth. How was in game set

(01:05):
matching thing for the Covient champion It is if you
listen to boy sports, so we think have already paid
out and will you been.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Champion trainer this year now?

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Look it's it's not cold and dry yet obviously because
Dan Skelton is in front and you can be sure
Dan will throw the kitchen sink out for the next
couple of weeks. But it looks as if Willie who
is you know, he really is starting to take it seriously. Obviously,
unless he won the Grand National the injury, it wasn't
probably realistic. But having won that and now having the
one two at scott in Scotland as well, it does it.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's you know, he's he's.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Hot on Dan's heels now, so yes, he'll have to
have a go now.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
And you can see from all.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
The entries that he has put in for the next
couple of days that he is really treating it seriously,
so he's going.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
To be very hard to beat again.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
He did strike me, David when we were watching up
sever and in the Melbourne Cup the day he looked
a handy type for plump and which is why we've
got an entry on him that in that while the
Capital DJ shelter way that Will.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Is thinking absolutely yeah, wherever it can pick up ahead
of going to Sandown. I mean it's going to be
interesting to see what big guns end up running there.
Great Dawning might have thought he was done for the
season entry. I mean, the temptation is going to be there,
isn't it for Dan to get him out of his
box and try and go again. So it's like Ed

(02:24):
was saying in the paper in the week, it does build.
Once you've got the Grand National out of the way,
the jump season can sort of just filter out, and
with a little interest, certainly from me anyway, once we
get to the Craven but even arvituned into Sandown to
see what's going to crack off when it all comes
to a crescendo.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
DC.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
It struck me the last year we only injected of
to chellmen the goal Pubby realized it was a national
in a way good year, Jenny, I think it was
even on the radar Jill lash itself.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I agree, and a few points occur here. These are
not Grand National and the Scottish National. They're not set
weights contests where your runners have got ten twelve fifteen
pounds in hand, the big time, historic handicaps where your
runner or runners have to improve on what they've shown

(03:14):
before and after that national short of strength, he did
it again with the first and second. Oh and by
the way, they were both namings over fences worthy going
into the race, all from four for the winner and
all from eleven for the runner up. Clark Ken and
it is. It's supernatural, it's spectacular. But my question is,

(03:39):
and I don't want to make a big deal of this,
but as you walk quite quickly, do you find this
level of domination This is a selfish point of view,
do you find it more or less interesting from a
punting point of view, because I must admit it doesn't
really get my pulse racing to think that. You know, however,

(03:59):
you look at these big handicaps, this bill is just
going to pull it out of.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
H's That's the thing, will you think, your billy sorrything,
you don't get invested. They don't know what stop of
the backing all day. It's not necessarily first thing being second.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
String and third string in all these rises.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Is but that just goes to show the strength and
debt that they have in the air at the moment.
I can I see GC's point, and I can absolutely
understand how some people would find this a little bit monotonous.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
That you know, also another big race will he will
win it.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
But the other side of that is he's doing things
that we have never seen in the past before and
are likely never to see again. So I think we
need to embrace this William Mullen's ear because you know
he won't be around forever.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
But he is he you know, he's changing the.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Sport at the moment the way he's the way he's performing,
and I'm all for us to be honest.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
He was held by a stexacular right.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
From Cobden at the weekend, Billy, wouldn't he Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
I mean, I know he didn't win the David Power
Jockey Trophy, but if there was a Ride of the
Year then Harley Cobden is certainly going to get it
that because it was it was an absolute peach, you know,
well off the pace out wide. But it was the
patience that he showed in the confidence he showed on
the strait to wait and wait and then produce the
horse after the last without resulting for his stick.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
And let's not forget Captain Cody.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
He had won three times in his life, all of
them when written by Jodie Townland.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
He never won for a professional.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Male jockey in the past, so maybe there's something in
that or not. I don't know, but whatever, Harry Cobden
certainly was able to cajole.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
The best out hum at the weekend. It was. It
was a masterful piece of writing.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I was absolutely gutted because I've got a great line
that Jonathan Burke was going to be turning Clark Kent
into Superman, but it just wasn't to be.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
On a On a related topic, Cobden Billy has to
has to reap up the batting order when mullinsests horses
in Britain. I've just read a nice piece from Tom
Segal in the Racing Post HARKing back to take control
Scottish National when which was gained for David Pipe on
a really tricky host over the Nickels trained Shotgun Willy,

(06:06):
and that seemed to attract the attention of Nichols, who
snapped up Ruby on a much more regular basis not
long after. Now he's not going to be jumping ship
and going to island. Harry cobbed him. But when Willie
has big time runers in Britain, Cobbden has to be
has to be on speed dial, doesn't he?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
I think definitely, But that's correct me if I'm wrong here.
But it was only his second lever right for will
he wasn't. I think he raced on t and fordle
and this one, so he's yeah, he's been on the
radar before obviously, but they haven't actually used him until recently.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Now.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
The other side of the kind is that Willy is.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Very low to his jockeys, so you know, he has
an established pecking order into a sudden and he will
use those guys first when possible. But I suppose with
him coming to England more and more now these days,
certainly Harry Cobbden when available will be they'll they have
to be looking for him again after that, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
To mention before we move onto other stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
That it was.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
It was a pretty grueling weekend and there with at
least four horses killed in action at lease Stop, saying
passed away anyone, you know, they die and they're killed
in action, they didn't pass away. There's nothing, you know,
nothing accurate about that. And you know we accept it,
Most of us accepted who were in the game. But

(07:23):
all I can ask is, what the bloody hell would
have been the reaction if that would have happened one week.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Earlier, it would.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Have been it would have been catatonic. Good on Saturday evening.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Mister Incredible being allowed to run this week. It's like
if he was a danger to himself and others the
week before, how come that we're not too bothered about
him being a danger to himself and others this week?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Sorry, David? What kept him out of the entry race?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
It was the BHA committee that decided that he wasn't
a suitable candidate for the race, like based.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
On jump or jumping or temperament or combination.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Is generally a combination, or you know, whether they just
didn't want him, you know, to be seen by the
general public. I mean, we knew what he was going
to do, and he probably did it to a certain
extent at air, didn't he.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
So he himself because he does whatever he wants to do,
and you know in that air as well, he just
he went as far as he wanted and then pulled
himself up. And that's what he's done in the past.
But yes, it makes no sense that you borrow him
from one national and then let him run seven days
later in a very similar race that you know, you
kind of one rule for one reason, one rule for another.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
But clearly they do.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I mean much more pivial, no try last stealth and
made of if he were coming in on the winner
having comptent that there's this huge figure of running to
all the high five in lots of partners, Paul Nichols
giving him the absolute massive celebrations that gave it aboard
Captain Cody.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
But there you go.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
The great game goes on. It goes on at New David.
I did last weekend a couple of good days racing there.
Greenham was won by John Quill now with Andrew Balding.
I mean I think that new so Michael Stout switching
route to a new yard will be a train rocklift
on the time fall flag sadly for the training great
moving forward, But John Quill, DJ, what did you make

(09:20):
of that Greenham as a classic trial?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (09:23):
I think Jean Quill was pretty impressive, wasn't he.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
He came with such a big reputation last year after
what he did on his debut at Sandown and then
didn't really read the script at Doncaster, disappointed having been
very easy to back, and.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
You know, you couldn't not be impressed with what he did.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Rasherbar obviously set a pretty good standard on what he
did as a two year old. Is pretty close to
running his race, and Jean Quill has clearly had his measure.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
He's won a major trial.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
He's put himself bang in the mix of what looks
and open two thousand guineas. Obviously Coli dap Dollar's got
plenty of other strings to his bow for the race
or the Judmont as I should call them nowadays. So
we will have to see whether he definitely gets to
go ahead, but he's earned his place if Connection wants to.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
I think.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
They see they just want him and to earn their
money choosing here, haven't it. I've got cosmic Yeah, cud
a Gold running theay today with recording before the Craven.
I mean there are two one one two P one
one one big p time for I don't know your
choose for who goes well, but that's some of his
well paid job.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah it is. And you would think that they'll they'll
split them, they'll have at least one runner in France
and one or two at New Market. Cosmic Year is
one of those could be anything horses, but he's been
very impressive times to John Quill bounced right back at
the weekend Travel smoothly showed a good turn of four.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Can I put it in a good word for Rashobar.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I thought he looked as if he had done really
well over the winter in the Parak.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
You really cut a fine figure.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
And I thought you run a belt and it's stretching
things to suggest that he could win a guineas. But
it wouldn't surprise me if if that new reform had
some sort of say, as you say, it's a wide,
wide open guineas five to one the field at the
moment we would come onto Aiden's unusual pattern and path
into the race. But Graven today just before I just

(11:19):
after we go off there, so we can't cover that.
Still quite a few cards to be played and decisions
to be made by certain powerful teams.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
It was interesting believe about Russia bad would you say?
Made that point playing me in on the Night Look
Daily podcast on Tuesday, comparing favorably with Delegator. He's tempted
by a new Market that the head saying the French
two thousand for him, but the heart saying New Market.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Would you rather die.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
In the bed fend Sponsor Classic with him?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I think the way the race is looking at the moment,
I nearly would.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I mean it looks like a wide open guineas there's
no real standouts as of Yes, okay, there's some very
good horses in it, but there's no massive like he's.
He doesn't have a massive amount of find with anything
you might And I thought he ran a really good race.
He was a very solid artist last year. He has
come back at least as good as ever, and he
didn't get a particularly hard race either. I mean, if
you look at the final four on Machine Murphy, I

(12:11):
think that John Quill got four or five good smacks
into him, whereas Rashabar one or two flicks and then
was just hands and heels to the line.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
So I think he'll improve from it on.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
And I also think I think joseph' brien will be
delighted with the run of Saracen back in third, who
would only won a Corter of Maiden last year, might
not have learned an awful lot in that race. So
I think he'll be through with that, and obviously he's
got start the champ as well, so it gives him
a really good line to that place of.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Form as well. You know, right, Yeah, great news here, Dadie.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I mean I met you with the highly paid employee's
going to decide who goes well for Jordan Mount.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Which one would you be aiming at Newmarket?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I don't know whether it's a Dansery different for which
one I'm be aiming or which one I think Nowga,
I think he's young kill winning the recognized trial.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
I think he'll probably end up going.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I just got the impression listening to Harry Charlton at
Kempton that they just think the Guineas might come a
little bit too quick for him and that they might
want to go softly, softly and have him ready to
peep by Royal Ascot.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
So I think that's what they might end up doing.
We're going to.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Go on the way and Charlotte with his different preparation.
Charlie probably is going down the Red Coast Gallery doc
with his gin his team. We've had one as in
the trials, a shadow of like to work at Newmarket
on Tuesday morning, Charlie very pleased as you would expect.
I've never known them not to be. But he thinks
he's going to get the mile. If he does, he's
a big player in the.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Guinness definitely, and I think he has prospects of getting
the mile. And we'll come onto the Dewhurst again. In
relation to expanded, but I don't know what the ads thing,
but I'm not sure that should be taken as a
literal form guide.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
No lie in winter rain, soft and.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Ground, small field, but still two groups he's pulled Expanded
Disney Billy the O'Brien hors seems to run an absolute
screamer the Shadow of Light, and it's in the quotes.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Strey probably had to win the Dewhurst twice.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
He had to make one big move to get to
the lead on the small group in the center, and
then another to win the race.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
So he is an exciting horse for this year.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
But I'm a big Ruling Court fan, and I hear
from his quotes from this morning Charlie Appleby that he's
quite tempted. I thought his performance in Dubai was terrific.
Now I know he was beating comparative second racers, but
he went like a horse who's really trained on well,
and I'm pretty sure he's better than his Akom defeat

(14:30):
behind the line in winter suggests so exciting times for
good Olphin. But again, it could be one, it could
be two, it could be three. But at the moment
it's hard to know exactly what they'll run. But I'm
quite excited about Ruling Courts prospects this season.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Really there was a two teas he's taking shame the
Good Dolphin team. What was Chado of like building cort
Bey players for you when the gin.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Is potentially obviously shadow of light sets and the standard
on what he did as a two year old For
all that, there's a few beginning to really come at
him on the heels.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
I mean, we must say that the two year olds
is a bunch.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Last year Timephone rated him as a below par crop,
so I do think there is a real scope for
something to come through from the trials as a late arrival.
But yeah, Ruling Court was very impressive out in Dubai
and it does seem pretty interesting that they're prepared to
have a shot at him with the second string. You know,
it's not that long ago that we've seen Apple be

(15:27):
dominating in races like the Guineas, and even obviously with
his second string. I think Carebas was in the White
Cat with the second jockey, and wasn't he when he won,
So it could be a pretty nice second string to have.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
And don't forget we've got Opera Ballo running in the
graven today. Who if he were to win that emphatically,
that would put a very different spin on the whole thing.
So although it's only a couple of weeks away, there's
still a hell of a lot that can change.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Hell a lot of inter change into ballyd Oil. But
we've had another tables it Pragan general for the only
of the dolls this year. To the mass media, he's
gone through his classic plans as things stand, two cuts
going to the two thousand, not making him a trial.
What do you make at the strength of the balid
all challenges time around.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Cart and know Dave, he's got Twain and expanded of
the two calls that he seems to be aiming at Newmarket.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Twain obviously won a maiden and the group one within a.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Week of each Sholdal last year, but it's difficult to
know just how good that form is. I mean the
Maiden Leperstone has worked out pretty well. The group one
that he won a sound clue. He beat a stable
companion who has since been stuffed in the conditions race
at Dundok, and a horse of Joseph O'Brien's the finished
third who's been sold to Saudi, So they clearly didn't
think he was top of the tree. It's I don't know,

(16:43):
like he did really well to win. He's got a
time from raiding one hundred and nine p which is
not outstanding. He's clearly got loads of ability, but I'm
not sure they want to be backing him at a
short price as things stand, and expanded who we touched
on earlier.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Second on the Jewhurst.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
It was a really big run from him because, just
like Twain, he had only a maid, and I think
a week previously he ran as well as you could
have expected him to run against Shadow of Light. Looking
at the race on the day, there's no real reason
why you would expect him to turn around the farm
of Shadow of Light.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
And I just thought it was interesting.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Aiden's comments during the week where he said that there's
a possibility that if one is working better than the other,
then expanded might be re rooted to the chorus. So
clearly they think Twain is doing the better work at
the moment, expanded as a slightly higher time farm rating
as things stand. But right now I'm not sure I
want to be backing either of them for new Market.
I think I'll be waiting until close of the time.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
It's a funny thing with Twain. What he did was
unusual last autumn, from maybe twenty eight to one, I think,
not fancied in the slightest for his maiden and then
winning the French Group one seven eight days later now
a soft ground, but he got well forty six point three.
The Guineas winner is going to hit the line in

(17:54):
about one thirty five if the grounds on top. So
we just don't know how fast a horse he is
at the moment moment, so it's it's educating guesswork. But
at the moment I'd be a little a little warm
on the on the valued or prospects compared to must years.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's quite a duke. I mean, his eldest hands up
to it because with his training career, with the last
two Guinness or got to throw down and triply try
you can do be quite keen to get one right
with a two thousand guitars soon, will you let the
preparation spot off one.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Of these two?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, and it's interesting obviously that I think she sort
of said that he was concerned that he'd left them
the last two years, both of them a little bit short.
But he's still sticking with that same prepp of preparing
him at home rather than getting a trial into them,
which would have obviously been an option.

Speaker 6 (18:42):
So yeah, well we'll have to see.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
But like Billy's suggesting, they don't look to have the
paper planes that his last two Beaten favorites did. So
be ironic if this is how he goes and wins,
it wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Which has a good time to talk the line in
winter he was given his favorite through the winter. It
was unlikely to run at the last media day. The
latest media day is definitely not running. He's going to
the Dante over ten felons when he's expected to be
eighty to ninety percent fit and always a cult you're
looking thought to seeing again.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Satly, Yeah, I can't wait to see him out again. Look,
I was hugely impressed him last year. For me, he
was the best of the beally dial juveniles that I
saw last year. It was just a shame that we
didn't see more of him. Obviously, he missed the jew Horse,
and I'm not sure exactly what the setback he encountered was.
It's clearly a reasonably significant one to say he's going
to miss the Guineas and won't be fully wound up

(19:34):
for the Dante.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
But the flip side of that is he was always
more likely to be a Derby horse than a Guineas horse. Anyway.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
If you look at his pedigree, he's widely the stars.
He's damn won over a mile and a half. He's
a half. You know, there's loads of stamina on the
dawn side of the pedigree, so I think he's more
of a derby horse. I wouldn't be too concerned about
the fact that he's missing the Guineas, and you know,
as as Aiden has said in the past, he trains
them to get better as the year goes on.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
So even if he did.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Get beaten in the provided he put up a decent performance,
I wouldn't certainly lose for it to them, because I
thought last year he looked the real deal. So I
am hugely looking forward to see him again, and hopefully
that will be sooner rather than later.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
And we've got Wimbledon Hawkeye, who wasn't too far behind
him in the Acre at York, who might just polish
the form in the Craven Stakes at new Market this
afternoon after we go off there.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
The pop pack could even lie by the time, the
favors being well, that's the dream that we all live.
Let's talk about the Phillies now their child's duty. Third
visually very impressive in the artist formerly known as the
thread Darling. Was there any substance to go with the style?

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Yeah, there really was.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
It was a very good time figure that she recorded
one hundred and nine, which I think is the highest
in the race for the last ten or twelve years
or so. And I think, you know, the overall time
was quicker than what they recorded in the Cults equivalent
that came you know, in the very next race, so
it's quite easy to compare the two, and it was.
It was a really good performance. Obviously the quicker ground

(21:03):
seems to have helped. She'd had a couple of goes
in pattern races last year on softish ground and just
looked a different Philly here all of a sudden. It's
possible she's caught Connections out a little bit because they
hadn't put her in the one thousand guineas.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
But I think she's going to be supplemented.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
And when you look at what she's achieved there, I
think there's only three Phillies likely to be rated ahead
of her Desert Flower, Lake, Victoria and exactly so twenty
to one for a Philly that's being aimed at the race.
It looks on the big side, i'd be surprised if
she's that sort of price on the day.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
You see she needs to be supplemented, but on that
evidence in Newbury, it feels like a no brainer for Connections.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I think.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
So you know that the Connections they're not living with
the gas turned down, and they're in the game. They're
in the game, you know, to have runners in big races.
And she wasn't just a decisive why she was an
emphatic winner, So I would think the temptation to, you know,
just supplement would be very strong. And then there were

(22:04):
pretty useful Phillies behind her. It's very hard to make
a case for anything from out.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Of the pack.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
I mean to turn her all that and so that
was a strong trial and the Gosden Philly we win
the Nelgwiny yesterday took a took a major step forward
as well. She was pretty pretty smart in winning that race.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, Amazione the Philly besides it went on avent shopped
and ground Philly. What's what performance you think that was?

Speaker 5 (22:27):
And yeah, like GC said, she was very impressive. She
hasn't run to a massively high figure.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
We've given her.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
About one hundred and four p which is you know,
it puts her a good work behind Judy first for example.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
But look, it was a nice performance. She's a du
bawie with the Goslands.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
You'd have to say there's there's going to be more
improving to come from her. She seemed to improve through
the year. Last year she broke her mid and sudden obviously,
so yeah, she's she's going the right way. But you'd
have to say, even though looking at her pedigree and everything,
she certainly bred to beg she has a bit of
improvement to do before she'd be.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Considered gess material to me. Anyway. After the performance yesterday.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
John Costin seemed very very tempted by France and he
said if Desert Flower turns up and is in last
year's prime form that he would be extremely comfortable swerving
her and going to Longshore instead.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
So I think that's where she'll go.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
But to be fair to God, he is a past
master of talking other people taught us, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yes? He never he never talks his own up like that.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
He always builds in a little excuse for his horses
ahead of time while we're giving other people's horces the
Baffer reviews.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
It can only be twaying where that gets Desert Flower.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Ben, we've seen.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Desert Flower work today, David, I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
We've seen it.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
We haven't, But I've worked at new Market today. Charlie
Apple be pleased again with the race cars go. If
she's setting the sort of standard Desert Flowers, she is
she going into that guineas as the one they've all
got to be.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
I think she is.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, Obviously, in terms of what she achieved last year,
it was pretty much on a par with Late Victoria.
I think there's only sort of a couple of pounds
between them. We've actually pulled Late Victoria down a little
bit based on the Chieveley Park how that's been working.
Out obviously the silly that came out and running the
nelguin she was in the Chievlely Park and didn't do

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a huge amount for the Forum, So I think.

Speaker 6 (24:19):
Desert Flowers she does look the one to be.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
She's so impressive last year four from four obviously already
has that course and distance when the Phillies Mile down
the years has tended to be a really good trial
for the one thousand guineas. And yeah, it's like mister
Gosden says, if she gets their fit on well and
doing what she was last year, she sets a real
high standard for the others to come up to.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I don't believe it's a big negative that John wasn't
worried about the O'Brian team in his post race interview.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Was wonning too late?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Victoria is one of them exactly the other. I think,
yes he's looking at his notes bo she'll view on
those too well.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Lake Victoria is definitely the better of the pair or
the unbeaten.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Last year.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
What she did was remarkable really to win a Miglarer,
a Chievely Park and the Breeders Cup Phillies Turf.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
She's a really really talented Philly and you know the
thing about it is, I suppose at the last open
day that Aiden had only a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
She was touching go for the guineas he said, she
mightn't make it much more upbeat bulleting about this week.
So clearly she's going the right way home, and if
she does make it to new Market, she's going to
taken off at a beating. As JOHNO said, there's not
much between her and the good alphin.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Philly, and we just really don't know how good she is.
She seems to be one of.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
Those Phillies that just does enough. There's always the possibility
she was a very good tour that she mightn't train on,
but looking at her pedigree, there's no reason that she won't, so.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
I think she'd be very hard to beat. Exactly has
had her run this year.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
She was very consistent last year without being maybe top
of the tree.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
She had a run in the one thousand guinea.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Toilet Leopards and where she she got beaten, but she
performed quite well. She was drawn badly and couldn't get
to the front, which is kind of what she likes
to do.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
Beaten by a very good prospect.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Of drumot Wells called swelter, so she may well torn
up and run well, but it'd be surprised if she
beat like Victoria.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Too quick?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Is Dave get the breaking news, Clason Ready. I saw
a picture, just a still picture of Lake Victoria at
the Daidan and Brian media.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Day with Dean Gallagher on board.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
She looked tremendous and you can get you know, can
be slagging, miss leading, but she looked she looked a
million dollars, so I hope she gets there. She'd had
a lot to that race. I just messaged Archie Watson.
Now slight one part loss for Archie for spelling my
name in the Scottish way g R A.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
E M E. But he says, all happy, Graham.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
This is about Duty First, the old Fred Darling winner
Duty three came out of the race well and new
Market one thousand guineas the plan, so they will shake
out the bar rainy biscuit tin and Duty first is
is new Market band. It's such a good trainer Watson,
isn't he. He's not operating on the you know, the

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multi multi one hundred thousand million guinea budgets. Now this
filly costs quite a bit as a yearly, but he
can you can find a good horse, all right.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
That's it, isn't he.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
He sort of made his mark with these sort of
low budget two year olds, didn't he that he had
fit already and had a really good strike rate with him.
But as he's been able to deal with the higher
caliber horse that have cost a few more, he's still
gone on and achieved twenty with those at Andy And
so yeah, he's very much a trainer go in.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
The right way.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
So she's she's a filly who's going to contract him
price With that bit of breaking news, put the put
the claxon on that when in the edit did.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Added on don't you wear it? But we've got one
waiting in the wings now. I don't know in your
time fom days, if you were in charge of the
squiggle stamp, if you were allowed to go around and
the expulsion to all the squiggle was added on Brugal,
it's not all been plate sailing aid and a repairments.
One that's had one or two people suggested that it
might not have been an out of greenness last year.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
It was one of the most it was one of
the most wayward performances I've ever seen from the high
quality horse. Was he unbeaten going into the weekend? Yeah,
an unbeaten classic winner. He looked like he absolutely hated it.
His head was an unbelievably jaunty angle. It was sort
of forty five degrees to the inside rail. Ryan Moore

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tried heroically to get him off that rail, but he
wasn't having any of it. So I understand why the
squiggle tool wasn't brandished just this once, but Billy and
David have one ready, in fact, just in case have
too ready so the next time he runs, because that was

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that was a savagely wayward performance at the weekend, and.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Jay has plantted it. I'm sure you've got to say this.
What did you make of the run?

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
It was much as GC suggested there. He definitely didn't
want to look to go forward, did he. It was
more fun to go sideways. So yeah, it will be
really interesting to see what they do with him and
where they go. He can point to a mile and
a quarter on good ground being very much on the
short side for him, so stepping back up in trip

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a mile and a half possibly even further, marke suiting better,
but yes, he's forty five. Again, next time you just
sort of have a second thought, wouldn't you definitely.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Put it on the Paul Dave. Is Jan Brouger a
squiggle waiting to happen?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
All backed and then will be added, do not be
bulletin on your beloved Cuprios this week again. Adel's got
him perving by all accounts, and for what you said,
Jan Brugel to pretender to the thrill might not necessarily
be coming through and in his near neighbors anyway.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
I mean he was, he was so far ahead of
everything less you live and I don't know, I don't
know what the planner of Jan Brugle is. The fact
that starting them off from the alleged maybe they're going
to have a crack at the Tartarsals Gold Cup and
they're still might with him.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
But I'd agree with you, c.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
I mean, you'd be pretty slow to back them after
what you saw at the weekend. So yeah, I mean,
it's great to see that Kiprius is nearly back again.
He usually starts off around this time of the year.
The vintage crop at Navan has been his starting point
in recent years. Hopefully that's where we'll see him again.
A Tower of London actually ran in that race at
the weekend as well and didn't run too badly. A
minern quarter was clearly unsuitable for him. He missed the

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break as well, which didn't help him. I think they'll
be happy enough with him, but yeah, Kiprius is quite
far and away the standard settle on that division and
even though he's advancing in years, he's going to take
plenty of beating in.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
It again this year really ominous for everyone if they
are saying he's coming at this time of year, because
you know this time last year he was. He had
a significant point to prove and he be's flying this
earlier in the year. It could be another picky offensive wins.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
We bore too long to the day.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
At first on Saturay, we need to talk about a
rising sprint star Musical Touch winning for the Sporting Life
Break Club first one to go in up seven pounds.
We've level that meeting the people in the race of
Come of Meat is seven pound rise up to eighty
two but for some big days during the summer. But
we need to have about another sprint when a duc
at first Opperdly Mobile as well slightly more openly. But boys,

(31:18):
I'm going to attend the pronunciation for the excellent d
battle team.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
This this was I think because there's a lot going
on at the weekend, and I think his performance sort
of flew under the radar.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
It was only a small field.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
That Michael Foster conditioned steaks. It's a pretty handy race.
All his opponents were rated one hundred plus.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
And he bolted up. He bolted up.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
He had one mini blob in a good handicapp at
York Glass August, but he came out later in the
year and Wisday in a pretty smart.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Subtle handicap.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
And I think David, I think he's rating about one
one six pen hour this horse, and he looks full
value for every pound of it.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Were better to come, I think, Yeah, pretty exciting house.
And these seven so long horses are so well caated for,
aren't they, in particularly now with the group one at
York And I think, you know, I saw Ed Bethel
interviewed afterwards, and it's clear he's got a real good plan.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
With this horse.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I think there's a listed racing John have gone to Haydock.
You three then obviously it's something like the lenox if
they want to have another run before you're the group two,
and then obviously you're up to group one and plenty
of prize money and good races for them to chase.
If he keeps ticking off and going the right way.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
You know, isn't a battlings to check amates. And in
four two we also shares and he's got back tomb
back in for the first time, so it isn't going unnoticed. Man,
it will not the military. Man shake a hammet the military.
I mean, I don't know which shake is it? Which
colors are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yellow with brown? I had to go on the wattle colors.
But colors. Yeah, I think there's so few.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
People actually remember whatsle now winning for you?

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'm going to say, I'll see you your wastle and
raise your in Toto.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Far more famous caveat of those silt Billy with the
Irish season is ticking out, an Icy is still desperately
trying to find a sprint to the embassy, and scramble
goes on. But there's some really really low voice oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sade.
But there was some really impressivating across the cover and
Leopards down Billy some significant performances to give us some.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Houses to take from those two days, A couple.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Of very really impressive performances, if we can get it out.
The first night supports came on Wednesday. Paddy toomy three
year old Phillie called Catalina del Caprio.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
It was a maiden.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I don't know how deeper maiden it was, but she
couldn't have won it much more impressively than she did.
She get Aarns, a time formerlating of ninety one with
a large p Paddy to me he was a man
who doesn't really waste high profile entries, said he considered
putting it in the epsom Oaks and then decided against it.
But he clearly thinks that she's that sort of a Philly,
so she certainly wanted to put in your notebook. The
very next race on the card went to and aid

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no bright newcomer called State True, who's from the last
crop of Galileo. Now he wasn't as visually impressive, but
the farther they went to, the better he was getting.
Like a lot of Ballydyle newcomers. He looked like he'd
come on for the experience. He'll certainly get a moue.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
And a half. He's in the Irish to RB.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
I assume he's in the Excellent one as well, but
he's an art that will progress and then onto the Kura.
We've already spoken about the Anne Brugal race, but there
was a really interesting performance in the two year Old Maiden,
the first six four long two old Maiden of the
year in Ireland.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
It went the way of a Joseph O'Brien horse called.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
Green since carrying the double green of Manure and Swede now.
Joseph O'Brien said afterwards that he didn't expect her to win,
but clearly everybody else did because she was back from
seven to one into five to two on track and
it was really never in doubt. She traveled really strongly.
She beat the boys. Looks a very good prospect. I
think she's got a you know, her route has probably
marked out already Phillies Prince Dance a nice onto the Albany.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Those kind of races are where she's going to be going.
But she certainly looks like one that could.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Be up to that level. Got the notework here, Billy,
what the green sense to words?

Speaker 4 (35:09):
And since yeah, it goes.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Sense.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
It's amazing the momentum. Visit the flat season. I didn't
mess it out. Get six seven fellow maiden start much
sooner than they were over here as well, but yeah,
we'll get those in the tracker. JAZ one of two
news lines to have a look at Jock is changing rooms.
I mean there's that remarkaal photo of jockey on an
exercise bike next to the ur rhinal bottles in one
of the I mean, clearly the talk you just need

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to stop on this and this just needed short.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Wow, that was a bad segment, wasn't it with the
who was it was at local Williams?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I think it was.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Wasn't it the exercise back.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
With a hat on next to two or three I
won't say stinking U rhinolds, but they were you rhinls.
So the rest rights itself. So no, I think it's appalling.
Were well done to the racing pulse. They chased this
and chased it hard and expose and really really disrespectful
practices from race courses. They are your athletes, they're your players,

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there your performers, and they deserve and not only are
they that day, they are athletes who blind large aren't.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Earning a right lot of money.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
A lot of them are coming to work hungry and
they're having to do you know, minimum weight A lot
of the time. It's hard YAKA for a lot of them.
So they need to aim up and aim up prompto.
But I was I read a piece from Corky Callfield,
former boss of the PJA, saying, you know, order two tracks.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Are aiming up, Brighten etc.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
And once you've been in business class, you don't want
to go to the back of the plane and getting
on the bandwagon saying this isn't good enough. Michael, You're
in the chair for over a decade.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
You could have done something.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
It's a bit like you know, the Tory politicians now
slating the labor mob. You had over a decade to
do something about this, and it's still more good. So
shake a leg. Resources. You need to up your game.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
David talking about up in the game. They're no instinct
readings one or two sides in the medias with they
might not necessarily certainly be all they see because we
the quint, the vese goer, we would misinterpret some of
the information if it was given to us.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, this is quite a shocking story emerging, and it
comes from first at the Weekend, where the clerk of
the course has admitted in an interview that he made
up the going stick reading because he didn't agree with
what it produced. And I mean, you just can't defend
that sort of action, can you. We're laughing about it,

(37:43):
but it's quite serious business, really, But I think it
does need to highlight.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
A wider issue.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
And there's many clerks I think that aren't happy with
the way that the going stick produces the readings. And
I've been keeping an eye and asked got for many
years and it's clear that the going stick reading can
often differ to what the times suggests the racing is
and what the clerk thinks the surface is. So I

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think there's something called verti draining, which is a practice
often done by clerks to help with the growing of
the grass and really promoting that, and that can impact
the going stick readings, but it doesn't impact the race
times or the speed of the going. So you just
have these issues where whatever the going stick is, it's

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not necessarily coming up towards whatever the actual going is.
And I think there's a perception a wider perception that
the going Stick is gospel and infallible. I mean my
experience and I think the experience of clerk of the courses.
I tell you that that isn't the case. So hopefully,
as much as we think this is scandalous and some

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people think it's quite funny, it should hopefully be a
line in the sand for the BHA to actually say, well,
is the going stick fits the purpose? Is it working
the way it should be? If it isn't, what should
we be doing so that punters can have faith in
it moving forward?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
So alude to the Barsterwards for digging this out, who
are sponsors at Thirsk at the weekend.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
But it's the haplessness, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
You watched that section of the interview and it was
also you know, airy.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
And jokey and what have you.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
But I think for a long time and this is
it's an endeatment on the whole thing. A lot of
punters who interested in the ground looked on the going Stick.
It's a bit of a busted brand, haven't were and
just taken no bloody notice of it?

Speaker 4 (39:36):
So what's the use of it?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
If shenanigans like this are going on?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I don't know whether I just needed a K like Probe,
didn't they? We don't go in sticks to k like Probe.
A couple of pair log all you need to know
at the end of that game, like Billy. For those
of us who are looking forward to the really won't
you of al Palladium this year with the big flat racers?
They they undoubt the Twitter sigments Satiels has joined John

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Goton from Nicknderson. But if you're Lady Bamford, that seems
a very solid percentage calm, It absolutely does.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
I mean it's a surprising one for me anywhere because
I assumed, and by the way Nikki Henderson was talking
during the year, I think he assumed.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
As well he was going to be training another flat So.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Yeah, does this mean that his jumping career has no
come to an end? Will he go back to Henderson
at the end of the flat season. I don't know,
but I would imagine if he does well for the
Gosdens that maybe that he's won and done over hurtles.
You know, yes, they seem to have maximized his potential
by sending him to the Gosdens.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
I think the hard work is the main name. It
will be very interesting to see how he gets on.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
But clearly from we can see from what he achieved
in Germany that he is a talented individual. So yeah,
it'd be fascinating to see how he gets.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
On it.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Trillly not his stallion brows this list a group one
wins and plus plumped and juvenile.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
I only think that.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's like one race blow his novice state, so smake
it difficult to place next year. Won't be able to
get him a handicap mark in time to go to
the festival.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
You won't be laughing when he wins.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
The King George really won't be either. Let's learn about
the Craven. Now we've talked to absolutely. I've been told
that if we'll be live in time for the craven earlier,
but we're going to catch the worm we're taught see
from the Craven and then underline it's in his claims today.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
It's so difficult.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
So I had to look at the race this morning, thought, well,
there's two or three of these, you know, could be good,
really good horses, but I'm not sure that I want
to bet. Opera Batos seems to have been well backed Wimbledon.
Key is the proper group racehorse, albeit with potential seiings
Field of Gold still has lots of potential. M Orris

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City have be a bit disappointed if he were to
win Dave because I think.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
They were one or two limitations exposed for him in
the National stakes.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
A New Century was thriving towards the end last season,
so I'm going to sit on the fence here and
watch it very closely. If one horse could blow it apart,
perhaps it's Opera Ballo. He's looked really good at Kempton,
but this is an altogether different test.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Jerry, what are your thoughts on the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I think it's really interesting given how few of the
Appleby horses have cut any ice so far in the trials,
and if they had to won the last two races
there yesterday, you'd say.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
They were in a crisis. So we'll see how they
go on.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
But there's one that interests me at a big price,
and it's this Benavento, who's got form that worked out
really well the listed race that he won at Doncaster.
There's a host of horses that won decent races in
behind him. Symbol of Honor came out and improved the
Waco Kid one next time, and obviously the much defeated

(42:53):
jon Quill was a fair way back and came out
and won the other day. So I could see ben
Vento out running his prices at twenty to one plus,
out running his odds sorry at twenty to one plus.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Thank very last line on the Craven he was one
Horsey hollockyber saying that Craven.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
I think even though Baddy d don't have a runner
in the race, I think there'll be very interesting spectators
because if you look at on time.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Farm ratings, Wimbledon Hawpee is top.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
Rated, with us amor E City Field of Golden New
Century are all next, and they have all farm behind
Baldlydyle horses last year, so they'll be the most interested.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Wimbledon Hawkpey is the one I'd like to see. I'd
like to see how he developed from two to three.
I don't know how good Opera Ballo is. He could
be very good, but it's a race I'm.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Looking forward to watching without necessarily having a bed nit.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
That's a nice thought of confidence from James Owening Harry
Davis to give him the leg up for the first
time on Wimbledon Hawkeye in a big race today.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Absolutely, that was great to see, David. The weekend has
not the best substive and all other The Championship finals
on Friday is an event to float you.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
But have you any nuggets for from there? DJ?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, really good card obviously, plenty of prize money on offer,
and it just makes you wonder if it's a bit
of a blunder by arc by running the two good
cards Linfield and Newcastle both on Good Friday and then
getting all that sticks for running such a poor card
on good on Easter Sunday at Suthl So maybe they

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could have played the game a little bit better there.
But now the Old weather sprint is the one that
interests me most. It's like a little mini woking them almost,
And there's one I'm convinced of been well, there's not
just one. There's plenty that have been laid out for this.
When you see how that they've been campaigned. Obviously you
had to have the three runs to get a run

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to qualify for this, and this Saint Lawrence is the
one that's most interesting. He's obviously a former working and
winner himself. Back in the day, was it twenty twenty three,
and I think he's still as good as that, really,
and you want to go back and watch some of
these qualifying runs that he's been having to get here,
particularly the last one off the mark of ninety nine

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that was back in January. They've sat on their hands
since they knew that they've got the job done getting
him qualified for the mark there and Holly Doyle's book,
they've got that mark of ninety nine, which is very
lenient on on what he was showing at his best,
and I could see him very much coming back to form.
And I guess similar comments could apply to five thousand

(45:24):
to one as well, who won the race last year
when he was with Andrew Bolding Kim East Toby looks
to clearly targeted this race with the way that he's
been campaigned this year, and it was pretty eye catching
the late head where that he made last time, and
I could see him going close as well. But Sir
Lawrence is definitely the one in what looks at a

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really interesting card, big fields, plenty of handicaps. The winners
won't be difficult to find, but if you can.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
Sorry will be difficult to find.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
If you can match one or two of them, you'll
be set for a pretty good day.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
I think it's in.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
The notebook and I've pushed my luck with Archie Watson
quick line on Saint Lawrence. So let's see if it
comes back before we finish in a few minutes time,
with plenty of.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Time, because Billy, I'm giving you a curve ball at
the minute, it was before they've figged out actually the
Irish National bonds pots there's eighty nine in it. Took
a quick line on each of the eighty nine. So
Artie Watson, gas Pa, Now give us something that's on
the shot. I said this early stat with Ivish Nash
for you.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
The first thing to say about the Irish National is
looking at the race as it stands at the moment.
I think the weights are going to rise significantly because
if you look at the top four horses in the
weights right now, you buy a Maximus Orange, Player, west Nick,
Rockets and Intense Raffles all forward at the entry. I
think it's very doubtful that any of the four are
going to run this year. So bare that in mind.
If you're having a bet, obviously you look at the

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Mullins horses impair it passes in there if he runs
to be a fascinating contender, but he surely has Grade
one options that punches down. I couldn't see him turning up.
I like high class hero from the Mullens yard. I
think this is a race that's Taylor made from two
and a half on good ground to turtles. The last
day was not his thing. He'd beat the pick up
the Mullins team for me. But Cheltenham Farmer is going
to come to the foe here, I think already, because

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it's it's the perfect distance that you've got four or
five weeks between Sheltonham and Jury, so we've got a
lot of Cheltenham Farm here. It looks like nearly all
the main protagonists from the Kim Mure are going to run.
You've got Daily President the winner. You've got Johnny who,
You've got the short goal, You've got Sam a Jest,
You've got Hati Kilura. Now is the Earth from the
National hun Chase wonder Wall, the Fox Hunters winner and fascinatingly,

(47:31):
hopefully if the ground gets a bit soft then bio
luminescence of Gavin Cromwells is one that I'd give him
major chance to if the rain comes.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
There is rain in the forecast, so if it comes
up on the.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
Soft dish side, I think bioluminescence thatll have a huge chance.
But looking further down the ways, there's a couple more
that might sneak in. Tom giving you won the race
last year with intense raffles.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Obviously he's got ars called kin.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
Turkkalanesi, who was running really well in the Leinster National naison,
seated two out.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Looked like he was going to go close. He'll work
if he gets in and can that end of Peter.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
In fact, he's one of the big Novi's handicap chase
at avon the other day.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
He's coming right at the right time of the year
and to step up to this trips and suit him.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
So look, until we get the five day decks, it's
impossible to know, but it looks like it's going to
be a very competitive, fir and wide open race the
way it just should be.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
He did mention a lady on their day.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
But you did a brilliant job there.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
A really interesting look says it now from Arching at
this stage odd because he's you know, the old two
blue tigs are in position, but no responses.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yet let's just pad for him and and just keep
the old breaking news flags and close to hand.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
That that's one of them. No news is good news.
I can assure that they're on.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
They're on to me, they're onto me.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
List silly that one the Lavish trainers launching new Market
where we're being enjoyed right now by arching for the bit.
That way they get into the show. Back to GC,
thanks to Billy and thanks to DJ. We're back next
week to look ahead to your code action, some good
flat racing at Sandown on Friday, back three six five
Gold Cup Day on the Saturday, and the cumbination of

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the Trader title. So plenty to discuss a lot of
which will be some much what we've done this week,
but what about next week to go to the key
points anyway, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Art you will respond and I'll put it a link
to the podcast on my ex account. Legs on with
with his response as what you want on is the
message we're holding for I think d DJ, isn't it
absolutely good money?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Bad's emotions would do with the GC just for money,
emos dollar, emojess job thanks fingers cross articles. But they
will check out GT's x feed to find out if
he does.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
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