A Tribute to Steve McMichael

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Good eeting everybody. We'll welcome to another edition of the
Sports Exchange. My name is Scott Morgan, enough motorc City,
mad Mouth, glad to be with have everybody with us tonight.
J B Ellis will be contributing as he sent us
his comments of what's going on. I mean, while I
want to welcome the crew, and then we're going to
start off with some tough news, but it gets a
little bit better. We're gonna lead off with Jacob Christner.

(00:45):
Welcome back to the show, Jacob, what's up?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (00:48):
And we're doing all right? George Ichor, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hey, good to see you guys again. And Lady.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Mike Santos is on here for the Wednesday night show
for the first time. He'll be back on next Wednesday
night as well. Did have Mike on our Hockey Expert,
And of course I know Mike has a lot of
other things they can talk about, So next week's show
we'll probably incorporate a little bit more variety in addition
to what's Thanks for being with us, Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, sure, thanks. Got any anything that has to do
with punching or wrestling or beating people up?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm in oh boy, that's what I like there.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
At the end of this show, you're gonna want to
do more of it, really.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Right, and Mike Waker joins us, maybe everyone else going
and last but not Lea's candies, getting the taste of
the frozen found and a lot more.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
Great to be here, Great to talk sports with you,
fine gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
All right, Well, unfortunately breaking news occurred just before we
went on air. And it's tough to talk about this one,
but to see what Michael, the legendary Chicago Bear died
at the age of sixty seven to the als I
in this battle actually was diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic
in twenty twenty outter to get other opinions, and was

(02:05):
officially diagnosed the second one and twenty twenty one. This
is tough. It really is a guy, as Jacob mentioned
in our early chat, was about two to eighty five
when he was diagnosed and ended up declining to a
point where it probably reached about one twenty if I
heard collectly. But als is brutal. It just simply is.

(02:28):
And what else can you say? And I do want
to go ahead and preface something that George Hollis mentioned
and then I'll turn it over to Jacob because this
is very, very very important because he was originally attracted
by the New England Patriots and he had some traits
that the Patriots didn't really like. In fact, I'll say

(02:52):
that some of these traits, like I recall walking into
founder of George Allis office, it was like walking into
a nineteen twenty gangster movie. When he was signing Kagy
when he said when he signed the stuff the pop
up fair made it clear. You know what he said
to me, Micmichael said, I've heard what kind of a
dirty rat you are? In practice? Don't change Steve. He

(03:15):
didn't like him be doing, but boy, he was a
hate in Chicago. Jacob, you're from that area, Please elaborate big.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
Bears fan the last forty years. I stopped mourning McMichael
a long time ago, like the minute he was diagnosed
with als. It is a devastating, ridiculous. The guy lived
on the as dusty roads as saying live at the
end of the he did all the stories.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Everything.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
You want to listen to a Rick Flair story, just
talk about McMichael.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
He can go off for hours, going two hundred miles
prior down a highway while having an a case of beer.
You hear it all, I mean, jumping, like junking, police steals,
all that kind of stuff. There's a billion of them.
There's a billion of them. He lived life on the
end of a lightning bolt. The only thing I ever

(04:11):
said when I heard he had als was just do
it quick, let him go to sleep. I stopped mourning,
and I started getting angry because everybody keep coming in
putting pictures of this guy who was a beast, a hass,
a monster and just wasted away, and we kept having

(04:32):
to see it and kept him to see And I
started getting angry at that, and I did I mean,
I just started racing the pictures. Everything just kind of
scrolling by. I don't want to see McMichael like that.
You want to remember the guy who was terrible at wrestling,
but he was part of this four Horsemen. You want
to remember him as the Chicago Bears, one of the
leaders of that defense. You want to remember that guy

(04:55):
who was part of that defense for ten years and
seven and six of them they were top five, two
of them they were first.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
You want to remember that. You don't want to.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
See people waste away. And he ended up getting that.
I can't believe they wanted to keep him around that
long to prop him up. Have Dan Hampton doing this
to take a picture while he's wasted away to bones.
So there's my that's I am. There's my deal with that.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
I had a problem. I stopped the morning all time ago.
But I can say this with him. He was he
lived an unbelieve forget the last five years. He lived
an unbelievable life. Unbelievable. We can all wish for that,
we just don't wish how it ended.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay, let me trust somebody to chatter real quickly. Put
it out there, Candy, josh Odor rope being is this
a selfware tribune? I expect a lot of panthers like
you talking. I wouldn't say a lot, but it's definitely
be mentioned as the show goes on. We still have
of other hockey topics we want to get to, but
mark my word, we will not be knowing the panthers.
They will be on as the show goes on. So

(06:07):
hang in there, Joshua. All right, George, were her talks
about the legacy of Steve MacMichael.

Speaker 8 (06:15):
Well, yeah, four years so he was announced he had
als in uh excuse me in twenty twenty one, and
then he died almost four years to the day.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Very sad.

Speaker 8 (06:29):
It's a very said and like you said, Scott, a
very very tough disease to suffer through. I'm sure it's
it's it's a blessing for his family that he's moving on,
but it's always hard. I mean, you know, he won
the Super Bowl with the Bears, as you mentioned, two
time All Pro, two times to Bowl Football Hall of

(06:51):
Fame Class of twenty four, and then it was a
professional wrestling you know that he that he did and
tried doing some announcing and did a little bit of.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
That too with wrestling.

Speaker 8 (07:03):
But yeah, he was a real really he epitomized those
Bears teams, tough to his nail, very difficult to you're
the opposition trying to get around these guys on the Bears.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
We all know the great years the Bears have had.
And it's really sad.

Speaker 8 (07:23):
And again I want to send my support and sympathy
to all his fans and and YouTube Jacob and you
know all the fans out there.

Speaker 7 (07:32):
Well, I grew up with it, thank you. I grew
up with that was the team I grew up with.
Eighty four, So then you get one year late and
get everything like that. People wonder why become a Bears fan,
considering all the past years have been miserable. But yeah,
I grew up and if they would have been the
same as we remember from the seventies and dons like that,

(07:53):
I probably would have been Steelers fan because my brother
had a Steelers coach, so I probably, But the Bears
were just that good and the Steelers would not very good.
So it ended up being Chicago. But if it wasn't
for the mussas of the Midway, weren't for Dicka went
for anything, the Bears would be the worst team in
the last sixty years. I don't want to hear anything about,
oh they were overrated, all that crap. Takes a lot

(08:14):
to win the playoffs and done everything, and they should
have had more decisions made. Who cares, But that was
those were special teams.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, okay, we'll turn over to Mike Santos.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Well, I mean, I didn't grow up in Chicago, but
I certainly I was a fan of that team.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
You know, the era.

Speaker 9 (08:37):
Was crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
I mean the eighties, go back into the seventies. The
teams that were successful had these guys that, like Jacob said,
lived on the edge, not just played on the edge,
but lived on the edge. I think of the Raiders
as a comparable team, you know, before the Bears in
the seventies, you know, whether it was you know, Ted

(09:04):
Hendricks or Lyle Alzado who died tragically in cancer, right,
and then I think of this Bears team and the
tragedy that they've had, you know, with this, but even beforehand,
with Walter Payton, I think we remember these these guys

(09:30):
more because they were so dare i say, full of
life off the field as well as on the field.
And so when something that happens to these guys, you.

Speaker 9 (09:42):
You are shocked because they.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Because of their antics off the field, the things they
were involved in, you really start to feel that they're invincible.
And then you realize, whether it's cancer that's struck down
al Zado or now the Als with McMichael, that you
know in the end, they're they're they're just like us.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well, I'll say this, Steve Gleason is fighting the battle
real well for New Orleans. Thankfully he's alive. We wanted
to sit here and talk about some tragedies in Chicago,
Bryan Picklow, certainly one that went way too soon. We
won't get into that. A lot to crowd that you
talked about story, well, I want to get too for
our topic. We have a lot to cover for sure,

(10:27):
Mike Whittaker. Some thoughts about mister.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Honestly, I can say I don't wasn't as familiar with
his career because I didn't really start following football growing up.
But uh, I mean obviously I do now, but not
as much when I was a kid. But yeah, just
a very tough situation.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Unfortunately, I've known people who have passed away from a LUs,
and its uh kind of like you mentioned, it is
so difficult kind of seeing the completely the opposite from
the person that you once knew, and you know, their
bodies literally wasting away. And it's just a very very
tough situation. And certainly condolences to his family and friends,

(11:15):
and you know, hopefully hopefully there can be more progression
with helping to fight the fight the disease into eventually
reduce the reduce the number of people who have it,
and and so we don't have to continuously see its
see things like that.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
So I will turn over to Candy Flash JB. She
wears both hats tonight, Goad, Candy.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
I'm gonna start with me first. As a Packer fan, obviously,
I was never happy when McMichael played against us. With
the Bears, he had eight sacks during the eighty five season,
and he added another during the Super super Bowl win.
He finished his career with ninety five sacks. He had

(12:03):
eight hundred and forty two career tackles, thirteen forced fumbles,
seventeen fumble recoveries, two interceptions, and three recorded safeties in
two hundred and thirteen games. His ninety two and a
half sacks with the Bears ranks second in team history
to Dent. One of the things that sticks out to

(12:27):
my mind is I remember head coach Mike Ditka said
McMichael was the toughest player that he ever coached. To
see him once he got als and to see all
the pictures, because we've all seen pictures of him, and
what that disease does to somebody is disheartening. I mean,

(12:51):
it's sad. It's sad to see somebody like that.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
Well, one thing, Candy, I wanted to say this real
fast too. No way in heck the way that the
condition that Mike Dick is in right now. No way
he would have ever thought he's gonna have to go
to another funeral because he's close. But there's this, and
I'm like, there's to me in life. There's no business
of ever ever just lingering like this. It's why I

(13:16):
don't want to talk about Steve Gleason much either, because
it's no one should be able to linger like that
is ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
But as much as I'm gonna say, but as much
as I disliked seeing him against my team, I also
respect how well of a player he was on the
field and how much his presence dominated the game. So
those are my thoughts. No, I'm gonna transition and put

(13:44):
my JB hat on.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Look good luck, he said.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
Ha gotten to know Missy the wife, and seeing what
she was like, she could he could sense that she
was always full of life. Michael was such a big
part of the eighty five Bears, of those Bears teams
that were really good in the mid eighties. He lived
his life to the fullest and to see him in
such a debilitating state was such a hard thing to see,

(14:14):
and He's sure for his family it was. He's at
peace now and not struggling anymore. But it's still hard
to imagine someone so strong suffering the way he did.
The amount of support he had from his fans was amazing,
from Chicago and the NFL.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Okay, what I want to do right now is last
week I didn't have the American dollars for the Alexander
Barkov find so I have a responsibility to put those
numbers out there because it was on my mind when
we signed out. I'm only going to put it out there,
and nobody asked the comment. All I know is that's
a pretty expensive speeding ticket. So following up with it,

(14:55):
then he had a speeding ticket that in euro dollars
and forty six thousand, six seventy five dollars and an
American currency it's fifty four thousand US dollars.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
So there you have it.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Now we have the American conversion that bothered me so
much I had to put it on there after what
happened to JB. He's not here tonight, but he's sending
us his answers. He should be back back Wednesday, all right,
So I just wanted to get that off. I check
fifty four grand worth speeding ticket I couldn't even do
that if I tried, I don't have it. I wouldn't
be bothered to try with my medical conditions. That's okay.

(15:31):
I got my pilot, and I get behind the wheel
when I get the iss to do it. We'll get
that out of the way. Now. I want to congratulate
my friend Kenny Albert, who landed the New York Rangers
full time play by played job. And as I'll say,
I had Kenny one of my shows before, and we've
been friends for a long time, and first thing he

(15:52):
said to me is thank you very much for it,
and I'm just and we had we exchanged text messages
for a three or four times. So Mike, obviously, if
anybody knows about Kenny Albert, what are your thoughts about
Kenny Albert replacing the legendary Sam Rose in Yeah.

Speaker 9 (16:07):
Well, it's I think it's natural.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
I've known Kenny since we were in our early twenties,
and obviously from a great broadcasting family, and as good
as anybody in that family, not the best of the family,
and probably better known for his work with the NFL,

(16:30):
particularly in the last twenty years of the NFL Box.
But ultimately I know him personally and his first love
is hockey, and his first love in hockey. So happy
for him because if there's one job that he would want,
it would be this one.

Speaker 10 (16:50):
And I can tell you I don't want to say
this for him, but I could tell you that if
he had to give up all of his other broadcasting
gigs to cover the Rangers, like take saying spot, this
is this is what it's all about for him, and
this is the this is the cherry on top of
the Sunday for Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I actually met him over at the NHL All Star
Game in Tampa and Amili Arena. What a super nice guy.
We reconnect a National Sports Media Association. We exchange books,
and then he came on my show, The Motor City
mad Mouth. You won't ask for a better guy. I
have a cell phone number. We exchanged sex messages every
once in a while. If there's anybody who deserves that
Rangers gig, any good things he has coming for him,

(17:29):
as Kenny Albert, so God bless Kenny. I love you.
I appreciate you everything you've done for me. I know
you're going to do really really well with the Rangers. Okay,
but that said Mike Whittaker, What do you know about
Kenny Albert.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
He's definitely one of my favorite announcers. I actually got
to speak to him, not this season, but last season
when he did a nationally televised game for the Red Wings,
just chatting with him for about thirty seconds, and he
was incredibly nice and gracious. I you know, tell him,
I've always enjoyed his commentating, and you know, I think,
like I said, I think he's one of the better

(18:01):
ones out there. And it's certainly gonna be tough to to,
you know, fill the shoes of a legend like Sam
Rosean in New York. But if anybody can do it,
I know that Kenny can. And we'll see if maybe
he can bring some some new luck to the Rangers
starting next season, because they definitely need it after the
year they had this year.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Great Jacob, When you think.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
Of the Kenny Albert, you think of him alone in
a certain way because it's what you've seen.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Maybe it's the differences. Let me tell you this, it
feels like it does not feel like it's.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
The broadcasting family. You can say what I'm saying with this,
I mean Mike, it does Mike and Mike, Yes, I mean,
not the most famous ones, but you get the you
get the feeling on something like this that it's like
you had al Albert, Kenny, Albert, Marv, and I'm like,
everything feels so different. Every style feels different, their personalities

(18:57):
feel different. I mean, it's a Marv, the oldest one, dad,
his dad. I don't thinking because that's what I was thinking.
I'm like, they couldn't possibly because of that thing, because
it was such a difference in age.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
But everybody's personalities are so different. Everything's mind. When you
listen to them, you can't tell, like.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
You if you get like if you get certain coaching
things with brothers, little brother, big brother, you can see
like the Ryots. I'm just saying for I'm not saying
for announcing. I'm saying for coaching, you can tell. I
can't tell anything with the Alberts. And remember I thought
they were all brothers. I didn't realize it was that why,

(19:40):
So that's just telling you something about this. It's like
just as a family alone, they're all different. And I
haven't seen al Albert years, but it's a great pickup,
wonderful pickup. It's like he's a wonderfully tremendous announcer.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
When he wants to do anything he can do, and
I personally think you.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
Can give him just like I was talking about with me,
I believe you can give him a minute to spare
and he'd get it, just because he is that good.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Fact.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
The Matterson onely the nice of people on the planet.
He's very down in earth, level headed, and he knows
his stuff really well. George here in the broadcasting business
like I am, and talks about Kenny Albert.

Speaker 8 (20:15):
I'm very very happy for him, Scott. He is a
great guy and obviously has been around for a good
number of years doing hockey in addition to the other sports.
It says here that his parents gave him a tape
recorder for his fifth birthday to practice his broadcasting. That's
how far back down. He's fifty seven now, So for

(20:37):
fifty two years this man has said play by play
and color commentary and interviews and all the other great
things he's done.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
You know, the Olympic Games he's covered.

Speaker 8 (20:49):
You know, when I think about broadcasters, I think about
those that are most versatile, and certainly he wears that
crown very well. I mean, you talk about hockey but
he's also as we mentioned on the NFL, well, he's
done Major League Baseball on Fox. He's done the Washington Nationals.
You can just go down the line, you know, college
bowl games and every other sport. So he's a great guy.

(21:12):
I understand. I've never had the opportunity to meet him,
but through your interview Scott, that you did with him,
and for things that I know our friend Greg Annis
has told me about Kenny Albert. What a great guy
and so well deserving of that honor to take over
for such a legend like Sam Rose.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
And yeah, okay, Candy and JB.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
So I'm gonna go as Candy first. So kudos to Kenny.
I got to listen and talk to him when you
did your broadcast with him, Scott, and actually I was
there when you met him over at in Tampa. He
is one of the only sportscasters who currently does play
by play for all four major sports. He did four

(22:00):
sports in four days. On October twenty fifth of two
thousand and nine, he called play by play for the
Minnesota Vikings versus the Steelers NFL game for Fox. Then
he hosted the New York Yankees' Locker Room celebration after
clinching the American League Championship Series that night. The following night,
he broadcast a Rangers game on radio, and on October

(22:21):
twenty eight, he called play by play for the New
York Knicks season opener on MSG network. So he's the
one thing I remember, besides the stories that he told
on your show, Scott, was how prepared he is and
to think about like for most of us, we're really
good in one sport and here he can do all

(22:43):
of them. And he talks very knowledgeable and yes, I
know they have resources now and you can pull up things,
but he knows it. Like I was just very impressed,
and yet how down to earth and how he talked
about his dad and like the tape recorder and you
know how he just loves what he does and it

(23:04):
comes through and it shows. So that was the Candy version.
Now the JB great hire and he knows the area.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Well.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
Nice to have Albert back at the garden full time.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
There you go, Now you have it. Now we want
to congratulate, send our congratulations the Western Michigan Broncos as
they defeated Boston University in the NCAA Championship game capturing
the program first national title somewhere and having former player
John Saunders must be celebrating. The Broncos beat Denver that
Thursday night, and they finished the season thirty four to

(23:40):
seven and one, Mike, you can lead off with this one.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised at all. I know
a lot of people don't know a lot about the
Western Michigan program. They really turned the corner when Andy
Maray went there. He gave them real credibility. And the

(24:05):
timing of this national championship is enormous for them because
it coincides with them building this new facility on campus.
And I saw them play early in the season against
Boston College, who was everybody's preseason and probably even regular

(24:25):
season pick to win the whole thing, and they played it.
It was a two to one game, and it was
it was a great game, and so I wasn't surprised
at all that they were the team standing at the
end and and and they did it in great fashion.
I mean, they beat a good bu team handily in

(24:46):
that final game.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Okay, Michael, your what's your take on Western Michigan.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I mean, what a what a tremendous accomplishment it was
for them. I know that, you know, the red wing zone,
Danny d Kaiser, they had to be smiling from ear
to ear as a former Bronco himself, and I know
some people who were down in Saint Louis for the game,
and they said it was just an incredible atmosphere. You know,
it's really great to see not only when a local
well not really local, but Michigan based here uh school

(25:19):
have the success, especially for the first time. You know,
just gott to tip your hat to them. Like you said,
it's definitely not easy to beat a team like Boston College,
who a lot of people thought were going to be
the last one standing. But good for them. They got
it done. And now there's a we got another trophy
year in the state of Michigan.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
All Right, can't I gonna let you go this time
because you know you've had time to prepare for it,
but also give it was JV's.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Version, Okay, So from my version, Western Michigan has been
competing at the Division IE level since nineteen seventy five.
For the first thirty five years in Division one, it
made the NC two A tournament only three times and

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had never won it all. So congratulations to them for
winning it all. Now JB's let me see give me
a second.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
The NCAA hockey field is made up of almost the
same teams, and for Western Michigan to beat a powerhouse
is a great accomplishment and they should be proud of
their achieve achievements and celebrate.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Right go to George Eiicorn.

Speaker 8 (26:31):
Yeah, I'm very happy for them. I mean, it's kind
of came out of the blue for a lot of
Detroit area fans. You know, we're so used to hearing
about U of M, especially when the great Red Bearnson
was their coach at Michigan State, of course with Mason
and Colmley, and they had a great year of this
too this year while Michigan State Spartans.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I thought they might go to the finals.

Speaker 8 (26:53):
But when you mentioned earlier Mike Santos about Andy Murray,
ye we'll forget that. Yeah, he laid that groundwork from
twenty eleven to twenty twenty one, and now they, obviously
four years later, are reaping the rewards of their hard work.
And it's unfortunate because in Detroit we saw some of

(27:19):
the CCHA teams, but we very rarely got to look
at Western Michigan at that time. But it's it's a
secret no more, it's a secret more. They're number one,
They're the top team in college hockey. So hats off,
of course to the Broncos on a great, great achievement.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Well, let alone the fact that they beat two historical programs.
You would beat Denver and then he ended up beating
Boston University. I mean, I understand college hockey. They're as
good as Again, take up some thoughts.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
How many times do you hear the same teams in
this Frozen four?

Speaker 7 (27:54):
You'll hear you brought up Denver, you bring up, you
brought up Michigan State, you bring up Michigan, you bring
up Cornell, you bring up I mean Billy a Bu you.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
Bring up you know, any of these type of teams
there the ones you hear all the time. You don't
hear Western Michigan. Candy brought it up herself. That's mean.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
I mean that they've basically been there six times and
never e won a game. But how many times do
I ever bring up how much of the world's changed
in sports? Usually all of the years that we ever
grew up, whether it I'll just talk about any sport
that it's like anybody that just kind of broke through,

(28:33):
they lose, they're done, you know what I mean, They're done,
and then they have to keep building.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Up and stepping up, stepping up. Not anymore, not anymore.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
I mean you think of you think of the Golden
Knights first year in existence, we've been getting to the cup.
It's like it's not I mean, there's more money, there's
more competition in the way, there's all that kind of stuff.
Anybody can just slip on in and do whatever. And
Western Michigan be in two very very classic teams. Let

(29:04):
me tell you this, and this is not disregarding them
at all. Congratulations to them. I am so happy for them.
But I will tell you this, in like two thousand
and five, it would have been almost unbelievable, enormous everything
because people didn't step in like that.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Now it's pretty normal. They're just in the right timing.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
Now.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Congratulations to them, and they took advantage. But beating two big.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
Teams like that is not the same as it was,
like it would have been enormous fifteen years ago, enormous
just because people didn't teams that didn't have the history,
didn't step in and any kind of sport and just
do that. They're doing that more now just because it's
a different time. Like, congratulations to them.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, I'm gonna pick a back off George for a moment, okay,
And I don't have to beat you up really seriously really,
because you are really right. They're no longer the best
kept secret in Michigan for sure because they did what
they were able to do. I'm going to end this
topic on this note. I don't even know how much
nil and transfer portal stuff comes into play with this team,
but they still managed to come out of nowhere to

(30:12):
pull this thing off. And we'll leave it at that.
So with that said, we're going to go to one
Panthers topic. We go to a station break after that.
Congratulations to Florida Panthers head coach Paul Marives for picking
up at nine hundred and fifteenth wins for passing Barry
Trott's for third on the all time list. Mike Santos,
that's one whale of an accomplishment for Paul Marie.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, and tudos to Panther's ownership for making the decision
to bring him in. First of all, he actually had
quit on the Winnipeg Jets right the season before they
hired him, and it was not He was not well

(30:53):
regarded after he did that. You don't find a lot
of coaches that quit on a team the mien of
the season. But the Panthers also when they hired him,
came off of a great season, almost full season with

(31:14):
Andrew Burnett as the head coach.

Speaker 9 (31:17):
In November when Quinnville was suspended. It was pretty much
the head coach.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
For the for the full year and at that point
led them to the best season they had ever had.

Speaker 9 (31:27):
So it took a lot of guts to.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Not keep Burnett in that position and also to hire
a guy like Maurice you know, who's had a good
track record before he was here, but you know, he's uh,
he's unfiltered, and it was a little bit of a
risk for them to make that move and it's paid off,
and kudos to him, obviously, it's paid off with two

(31:53):
straight finals appearances, Steel couple last year and whether after
a good start after last nank too.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, I'm going to say this about that hire number one,
Andrew Brunette came off a heck of a year, he
really did, and I but I did feel and I
had spoken to George Richards and with Georgia, who obviously
covers the Panthers extensively, but he felt they needed a
veteran coach and that's why they opted to go with
Paul Maurice. But Andrew Brunette did end up doing an

(32:23):
admirable job with Florida and he ended up taking a
national job. Obviously, he has a lot of work to
do out there, and we'll talk about that a little
bit more next week. But pal ma Reice turned out
to be one big home run higher for Florida, and
we're going to talk about the Florida Panthers half to
be a lightning series later in the show. We're not
going to get in any more series outside of that one.

(32:44):
I want to see how the rest of them play
out before we go any deeper. We just feel like
we have a lot of other topics that are far
more important than going into what I consider incomplete series.
So more power to the Panthers. They brought in pal Maurice,
and the guy has done an outstanding job. I think
he felt like in a PEG he had done everything
that he could do with a small market team, and
he's been given all the resources a little and having

(33:05):
Bill Zito as your general manager, who I consider nothing short,
nothing less of a genius for being able to bring
in these guys and look what's happening. So we'll talk
a bit a bit more about the Panthers than Lightning
later in the show, but I will not get into
any other series until next Wednesday Night's edition of The
Sports Exchange. Okay, with that said, Mike, what are your

(33:27):
thoughts about paulm Reese.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Obviously, well, he's shown himself to be one of the
better coaches in the NHL. It was kind of strange,
kind of like you mentioned, when he literally stepped away
from the Jets in the middle of their season. Can
understand why some Jets fans would not be too pleased
about that. But obviously he's led he has a good
team of players, not only to oversee, but he's been

(33:56):
able to lead them to the Cup final two years
in a row, culminated with the first ever championship for
the Panthers last year, and so farther off to a
pretty good start this year with that pretty pretty convincing
takedown of the Lightning in their game one the other night,
and so we'll see that. If you know, he can

(34:16):
lead him to three peat appearance in the final and
maybe two titles in three years.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Hey, Joshua, have you ever heard of the work patience.
I'll give you some good advice. It works. We have
more hockey to get to. Just so you understand, hang
in there with us. Keep in mind this is a
national hockey show and I do my best to get
as much Florida stuff in there as I can, and
I have an entire NHL to get to. With that,
said George, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (34:44):
Well, Buna Moris obviously has had a successful career. Yes,
it's he had his ups and downs, but you know,
going back to when he started in Detroit and winsor
you know, it's interesting that, to be honest with you,
it's interesting that the Red Wings. I don't know if
they ever tried to get him, but he would have

(35:06):
been probably a decent fit because, like I said, he
he no only played for the windsor Spitfires, but then
he coached them. He coached the Detroit Junior Red Wings.
But that was all in the past and now is now.
And to be a coach and win your first Stanley
Cup is remarkable and and for the franchises first, I mean,

(35:27):
and really it was an amazing season and they're continually
at like you guys said this year as well.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
So hats off to Paul Maurice.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
He's put in a lot of years in the NHL,
the KHL, the AHL and the OHL and certainly deserves
his UH, his tip of the hat from UH from
here in the UH, in the Motor City as well.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I don't think that they question Paul Ra's going to
get a statchout in front of a Merit Bank arena
if he wins another one. We know his name is
going into the raptors begin. It was all right, Jacob,
go ahead.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
You have to ask what happened with Winnipeg just as
far as his mind, where was his mind? And when
they did that, Winnipeg's not happy. Don't get that wrong.
They have every right to me as much as I
get on fans of every sport ever, they have every
right on that.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
You kind of just bailed on them. But we do
have to ask how much.

Speaker 7 (36:20):
He's been an NHL coach since ninety five, right, that's
thirty years. How many times has he been to playoffs?
And you know how stressful the Stanley Cup playoffs. The
Stanley Cup playups are stressful to us as fans, insane.
How much would it be as coach?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
And how many?

Speaker 7 (36:40):
How many games? How many see cooks? You have to
wonder and ask him. Mind you, we don't have his answer,
and he's not going to really tell the media every
little detail unless he writes a book whever he's written
a book already. You have to ask the question, did
he just have to mentally decompress, you know, just from
the thing he Remember he was twenty seven years in

(37:02):
when he quit. You just have to wonder if I mean,
remember he retired, He just basically bailed out at thirteen
to ten. He bailed out thirteen and ten, So ask yourself,
I mean, was there pressure where there are people getting
on him?

Speaker 8 (37:19):
Did he just do it?

Speaker 7 (37:20):
Did he just need a decompressed for because remember he
coached like forty games the next year, so he had
to go through how many No, no, no, I'm sorry,
my apologies.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
He was all eighty two. But you have to ask
how much was it was a mental decompression? How much
was it pressure?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
And truthfully, I don't think it was going to come
back and coach until the Panther situation came about when
he saw that opportunity with the talent they had, he
had no choice but to take it all, right, can't he?
You can speak here yourself and JB. And then after
that we go to a station break a lot more
hockey to talk about tonight. And let's not forget our
pundents funded moment as well. That will come as we
go along as well, This funded funnel moment, it's gonna

(37:57):
be a really neat one, so hey, stay with.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Us, right.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
Paul Maurice is a Canadian professional ice hockey coach and
a former player. At age forty three, Maurice became the
youngest coach in NHL history to coach a thousand games,
reaching the milestone on November twenty eight, twenty ten. He
also holds a record for the most losses by an
NHL coach with seven hundred and thirty six. But the

(38:25):
success that he's brought and that he's had at the
Panthers has changed the mindset of the Panthers here and
he's bringing fans back to the stands. They're they're drawing
better crowds. They're I mean, Florida is I will say

(38:46):
for lack of a better word, a fair weathered team
of fair weathered fans. They they support their team when
they're winning, but when they're not.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
The rats come out and that's against the whole team.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
But kudos to.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Him for.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
Getting this opportunity and for it all gelling together and
working together, because, let's face it, in hockey, to maintain
that high level and being up on top is very
hard to do. You know that Detroit had their streak
where they made the playoffs for how many years? But
now they've missed for how many years? That tells you

(39:23):
how hard it is. It's not easy to do that,
so kudos to them. They're in a tough series right
now with the Lightning.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
But hopefully they can pull it off.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
As for JB, yep.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
As for JB, it says a lot to move up
on an all time wins list. You have to be
good at what you do in order to have that chance.
You also have to have a great organization behind you
that supplies you the talent and believes in your vision
on the ice. It says a lot to get there
and there is more in his future. As they are
playing tough against the Lightning in the first round.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Okay, enough, all right, you go to a station break
a lot more stuff.

Speaker 9 (40:00):
Get to self.

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Speaker 1 (40:57):
Beck to you, Scott, all right, Well, I'm gonna tell
you what I think at the ratings ticket hit in
the National Hockey League. I'll give you a lot of
good reasons why. For the first time in NHL history,
four US based teams the original six have all missed
the playoffs Stanley Cup playoffs, the first time in the history,
believe it or not, the four American US based team
we talked about, the Rangers, the Bruins, Chicago Blackhawks, Detroit

(41:20):
Red Wings and another first also if you have the Bruins,
the Rangers, and the Pittsburgh Tenguins, that's a lot of
big American markets out there, Mike Santos that are Can
you believe that this is unbelievable?

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (41:35):
I can.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
In this age of the NHL, there's so much parity,
and it doesn't take but a bad mover or to
a bad draft or two, and you can fall right
out of the right out of the top sixteen in
this league. And that's what's happened with all these organizations

(42:00):
that you mentioned.

Speaker 9 (42:03):
Boston.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
I listened to the press conference today with Kim Nealy
and Don Sweeney, and they are they're a mess.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
They're a mess.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Uh the in from coach to Osaco who they still
don't know what they're going to.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
Do with.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
And that's after firing two coaches who had tremendous success
with them. The first one, Cassidy, then went on to
win the Stanley Cup the very next year with Vegas,
and and then Jim Montgomery, who had the best record
in the NHL and the best record all time in
the HL a couple of years ago, gets dismissed in

(42:43):
the middle of this season, moves on to Saint Louis
and brings Saint Louis back from the dead into the playoffs.
So that's just one example. You know, the Red Wings,
the Rangers, the Blackhawks, they all have their own issues, right,
but yeah, it's different and it's a big league now.

(43:05):
Money means so much, how you spend it being so much.

Speaker 9 (43:12):
There's just.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
You know, I think Jacob was brought up Vegas. First
year they go to the finals. You know, third year
they win the Cup, right that that would never happen
with an expansion team before. The rules have changed, the
way things, the way teams play the game has changed,
the way they travel has changed. And we've gone through

(43:36):
years where you know, one or no Canadian teams have
made the playoffs, which is crazy.

Speaker 9 (43:44):
And there's uh you know, there's seven of them.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
So so four of the six US four of the
six teams who happened to be four of the six
original teams.

Speaker 9 (43:56):
Who happen to be for the US missing doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, but they're major TV markets and that's for ESPN
and TNT and ABC have to be salvating. But I
agree with you one hundred percent.

Speaker 9 (44:08):
I do. But that's on the NHL.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Okay, No, I get that. I'm just saying because the NHL.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Had a decade with teams like well, they had a
Stanley Cup Final. It was with the Rangers in LA
in the Stanley Cup Final. I mean, what markets in
the US are bigger than that for TV? What did
they do to capitalize on that?

Speaker 9 (44:33):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
You know, they had the Chicago Blackhawks who were in
three finals, you know, in ten years, another major market
Original six team.

Speaker 9 (44:44):
They did nothing to capitalize that.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
I mean, there was a decade of Original six teams
in the finals, between the Blackhawks, the Boston Bruins who
were in the finals twice, the Rangers who we just mentioned, right,
I mean the Red Wings of course with their run.
I mean they had Original six teams and major markets
in the playsts for years and they didn't do anything

(45:08):
with it.

Speaker 9 (45:08):
And the game has changed.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
It's you can talk about major TV markets, but the
game is now played all over this country. It's not
a sport just for the Northeast anymore. And you know,
teams have been in Dallas and in southern California for
years now, not you know, not ten years, not fifteen years,
twenty five, thirty years.

Speaker 9 (45:30):
So it's changed.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
The NHL has changed, the landscapes changed, and if they're
not taking advantage of, you know, when they have the
opportunity to have some of these major television markets in there,
then sorry, that's their fault.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
No, I agree with you. Everything you're saying is on point.
Online is is do you lose four major markets of
these nature? The reality is the number is going to suffer.
But everything you said is on point. I'm not disagreeing
with it. I'm agreeing. And then you add Pittsburgh to
the frame. And then you look at some of the
star power out there, like sending Crosby. That all adds up.

(46:09):
But that's not taking away from all the other teams
that played their way and earned their way in there.
That rightfully deserves the opportunity, and there's still some major markets. Luft.
Let's turn over to Jacob in your thoughts. Let me
tell you this.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
You brought up the major TV markets. Here's an issue
with something like that.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
It's not what it used to be because it's we're
not You don't look at New York, Chicago or anything
like that. Let me brings a little deal to you.
I can go to ESPN Plus, I can I watch
say Saint Louis versus Las Vegas hypothetical.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
I'm just giving this is me.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
In the regular season, it said I go to ESPN Plus.
I clicked that game. It says the Blue I mean
the Blues announcers or the Vegas announcers.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
That's what I pick.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
I'm a Blues fan, everybody I say, I. But I
can also pick from either side. Do you want Spanish
or do you want English? So many different options, and
I'll bet you they'll be French eventually, because you know
there's French, Canadian.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
So many different.

Speaker 7 (47:08):
Options now the big TV markets that aren't going to
be there because it's all streaming. Now everything is streaming.
So I mean, I'm from Quincy, Illinois, small town two
hours outside of Saint Louis and I can watch Late
Night Vegas same thing. It'd be the same rating, so
it really would matter. But here's the deal with this.

(47:29):
And when I'm gonna bring something else up, I brought
up Detroit earlier. I brought up how it irritated I
was with the fans. They're wanting the tank and then
they still can't get back now because they're stupid. The
Blackhawks were the same three Stanley Cups, and all they
could do is whine and cry about stan Bowman, who
is from a hockey royalty.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
All they could do is complain about him. They want to.
It's like now they are in the world.

Speaker 7 (47:59):
I mean, the didn't they get Jeremy Collington, who was
I mean, they wanted their guy out. Then they get
Jeremy Colliden, who's horrible, and then they complain about him.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Well they want any.

Speaker 7 (48:09):
I mean, it's I mean, just seriously, it's no different
from Greek fall. I'm just gonna say this. In the
White Sox after LaRussa was going same, they all complain,
they all celebrate, then they pretend they never did. It's
like these front offices of any type of sports team
will say hockey right now, say to any of them,
Quit listening to fans, Quit giving them the.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Time of day.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
You don't know anything. They don't know anything.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
It's like, I really.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
Believe, if you didn't make some of these moves to
try to quiet things down, you're probably in the playoffs
a lot quicker than you are now. The whole thing
with Detroit, Chicago, New York, all of this. It's on
them for their deals, but it's not really gonna matter
with the market. But we got to get to a
point where we just quit.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
The people that go to these games.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
They're there to gamble, they are to drink that, they're
to yell. They're not in that, they're not in those
draft rooms, and they're not in the offices. Quit trying
to appease them, ignore the noise, and build a team again.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
You know, let me let me that.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
You know, it wasn't all that long ago when sixteen
of twenty one NHL teams used to make the playoffs. Okay, true,
Now we've got thirty two teams. Yeah, so the odds
of making the playoffs aren't is quite as great as
they used to be. And all of us graybeards here

(49:36):
who you know, learned for the years when we were young,
and you know, the Red Wings and the Bruins and
the Canadians and the Maple Leafs and the Rangers, and
they were the black Hawks were always were always in
there fighting for the cup every year. The game's changed,
as I said, the markets have changed, and there are
fans in Vegas, in San Jose and Anaheim and Dallas

(49:58):
and all these places. They're not They're not just in
the places where we're from anymore.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
That's an excellent point. Succeed out a twenty one for
all those skys like an aarp, which Mike Whinnaker is
not one of them. All right, So Mike, what are
your thoughts about what I just talked about for US
Originals teams not making it well?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Obviously some excuse me the some of those teams that
are going in different directions. Obviously of the Red Wings,
who you know I cover intimately here. Uh, you know,
they certainly had a long run of success, and I
think they are kind of paying the price for that
success of having never had the first overall draft pick

(50:43):
all those years. Obviously, there were many numerous missteps with
Ken Holland in his later years as the general manager,
and you know, I think you know, obviously what Steve
Eiserman is doing. He uh, he certainly had his work
cut out for him, because the situation that you inherited

(51:04):
that truly was pretty rotten. But you know, obviously there
there is some there is some impatience growing around here,
and I know that George can certainly see it too,
with fans who feel that maybe this team should be
progressing quicker than they are. But then again, you talk
about the other some of the other original six teams
who are not in the playoffs. I don't think anybody

(51:25):
expected Boston to completely implode on itself the way that
they did. I mean, this is a team that's only
two years removed from sixty five wins. They've they sold
at the trade deadline. Obviously they are going to be
probably on the verge of a painful rebuild. And then

(51:46):
you have teams like the Blackhawks, who have been near
the bottom of the NHL now for the last couple
of years. They're obviously hoping that you know, conniber Dark
can help to kind of lead them out of that
out of that darkness. But he can't do it all himself, obviously,
he needs help. And then uh, the new York Rangers.
That's that's just kind of a mess of a situation,

(52:09):
especially with how things went for them this season. They
started out tremendously well and looked like they were going
to cruise through on their playoffs butt and then things
just completely fall apart. And so obviously a lot of
Rangers fans are not happy today with the news that
Chris Drury was re signed as general manager for multiple years.

(52:29):
That that's that's a situation I would not want to
be overseeing right now because kind of like you all
atted to, it really is a mess right now.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
I should have signed up for longer.

Speaker 7 (52:38):
If it fans are complaining about it, fans don't know anything,
Just sign up for longer.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
To add to that too, again, we kind of hit
a nerve with this one, Scott, but you know again,
the league is so much bigger than it used to be,
and so when you when you're on top for as
long as as those teams were on top. I mean again,
go back to the decade from two thousand to twenty twenty, Boston, Chicago, Detroit.

(53:10):
You wanted to go to Pittsburgh and there the Rangers,
they were all on top, and you know what, happens
when you when you're on top in a thirty two
team league, you draft thirty seconds. That's a lot different
than drafting twentieth in a twenty team leade or a
twenty one team league.

Speaker 9 (53:28):
And so that's the way it's set up.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
It's set up that way for a reason, you know,
whether it's the new expansion draft rules or the fact
that when you win, you draft last. And so that's
that's why you get into these situations. You try to
keep yourself and Jacob's right, and you know they have
no clue what's really going on here. But they sure

(53:52):
were happy in Chicago when they were you know, they
were on the break and winning the Cup for ten
years in a row. You know that that was fine.
But then all of a sudden and and what it
took to manage that team with a salary cap, Who
do you let go and manage that team so that
they could win three Cups in those ten years?

Speaker 9 (54:12):
Like that's that's hard.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
But when you when you hit bottom, now, you hit
bottom because it's just ten years in a row of
managing a salary cap, trying to keep your team as
competitive as it can be to win while you're in
that window and drafting last, so they're not really getting
any of those top protects coming in your organization to
refill the cupboards.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Oh, absolutely, And Mike, you niel it little something else
about the Austin Bros. You just like you said earlier, Mike,
you don't let a guy like Jim Montgomery and Bruce
Cassidy get away because you were headed for a much
quicker rebuild because you let two elite coaches go. That's
that's that's what it is. And I agree with you totally.
So let's turn over to George.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Well.

Speaker 8 (54:56):
Lots of different things going on here in this discussion
about trying to mine out. The networks are not turning
a deaf ear to these teams as we know NBC, ABC,
I mean, and TNT. You get their schedules out that
come out way in advance, and you see how many
games involving Pittsburgh, Detroit, New York, Boston are on that schedule.

(55:21):
So the networks themselves are not ignoring the teams. But
the fact of the matter is is that, like you said, Mike,
these teams, there's so many teams now in hockey, they
are stepping right over They don't have a sense of
being afraid to play in Detroit or being afraid to
go to the New Boston Garden and playing. I mean,

(55:42):
these guys now, they're strapping up and they're great players
all around the league. There is a certain part of
Scott and myself and others at Relish Jacob probably too,
the original six, But the rest of the hockey world
a lot of people don't give a darn about the
original sex. They just care about obviously. I like Vegas,

(56:05):
I'm gonna support Columbus. I'm gonna put my fun into
the Florida Panthers. So it's spread out all over. So
I think the fact that your original six does not
carry as much weight obviously as it used to, because
we have so many more teams now, and that makes
it even harder for the Isserman's and the Kenny Hollins
and the Bowman's of the world to try to turn

(56:27):
these franchises around or in some cases try to keep
them up, like the Rangers and the Bruins have been
more successful lately obviously than Detroit Chicago, but there's so
much competition out.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
There, there's so many games.

Speaker 8 (56:40):
I think the networks still long for it because A
Scott and I have talked about this on other shows.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
You get that schedule published and there you go.

Speaker 8 (56:49):
They'll do a Red Wings game, they'll do a Bruins game,
and they'll get good ratings for those they will.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
But it's a tough playing.

Speaker 8 (56:59):
The ice surface is is just shared by so many
different entities and so many different teams.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
That makes it harder and harder for the original sex
to make it.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Yeah, and I'll take that one step further, George. In
nineteen ninety three when Gary Bettman became commissioner of the NHL,
one of the things that he changed or that was changed,
and it was done for broadcasting reasons is they.

Speaker 9 (57:27):
Made all the ice surfaces.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
In the age of the same size fighter than teams
had different size ice surfaces different arenas. They also wanted
in many arenas they also would have the home bench
next to the penalty benches, so that was an advantage
when he had a guy having out of the penalty boxers.

Speaker 9 (57:47):
Close to your bench.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
All that was changed for one for broadcasting, so the
broadcast could could broadcast be in the same way in
every arena, and two to make that things fair and equitable.
The problem with that, and you alluded to it, George
is they took away what was thought of as the
home ice advantage, and now you cannot build your team

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specifically for your ice surface. So back in the day,
there were places like Boston, for instance, that had a
small eye surface and they always had big, tough teams.
But when you went to Montreal with a bigger, faster
ice surface, you better be ready to skate. That doesn't
exist in the NHL. Every night you're playing in a

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two hundred and eighty five rink with the same sized
glass and the same size boards and Jacoble like this,
and the fans have no influence on these players because
the fans are more interested in what's going on with
the dot race on the scoreboard. They're not They're not
reaching over the bench like they used to do with

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the Spectrum in Philly or the Forum in Montreal and
grabbing a grabbing a handful of some guy's.

Speaker 9 (59:02):
Mullet on the bench, or spitting on them or anything else.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
These guys, if you took an NHL team, and I
know this from experience, and you blindfolded them, they wouldn't
know what arena they were in until the other team
came up because they're all the same. There's no more
home ice advantage, and there's no way that you can
build your team for your home ice or to play

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a certain style because you've got to play all the
same style. Before you could play a certain style at home,
you would have to be ready for your forty well
now forty one games in the road, but you had
a big advantage for your forty one games at home.

Speaker 9 (59:41):
No more, everything's the same now.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Excellent points, Elilay. I didn't know that. Learn every time
you come out, and might always learn an awful lot.
I will turn over to Candy Slash JV. We have
a lot more good NHL information and then we'll have
we'll talk about one series that's in particular interest for
a lot of people in these parts. There'll be the
Panthers and the Lightning, but we have a few more
things we want to get to. All right, Kney, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
So so one of the things I'm gonna put my
head on first and I'm going to talk about So
there are more teams in the NHL. So there are
more so if you're taking your top talent, because let's
face it, normally in most drafts, your your talent is
not going to be really really deep, and if even

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if it is, maybe each team gets one really good player,
but then you're not getting two or three good, really
good players. You have to hit on everything because there's
so many other teams in the league. You have to
hit on your head coaching, you have to hit on
your drafts, you have to hit on your GM. The
other thing that you that we haven't discussed is you

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have to stay healthy because big injuries play a role
in hockey too, because if a player goes down for
any significant amount of time and you're without one of
your key players, that affects the rest of the team
and all the different lines and who's who's gelling with

(01:01:09):
who and who's not, and maybe it's your goalie goes
down and you know your goalie was significant. So I
think we forget about all of that. And I think,
especially in all of sports, everybody is so quick to
I need results now, and if I don't get the
results I want now, I'm gonna make some kind of change.

(01:01:30):
And we got to keep changing instead of maybe sticking
with people two or three seasons to see if it
will gel and work. I think a lot of teams
are quick to do that as well. Now I'm gonna
put my JB hat on. The NHL is a new
and exciting time. The original six are not the powers

(01:01:51):
that they used to be. There are opportunities for expansion
teams aka Vegas and other exciting teams to make waves
and create dynasa. It is based off the TV deals
and the salary caps or is it bad hires and
upper management is the question. Either way, the NHL playoffs
are the best playoffs in sports.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I don't think I'm gonna add to close up the
topic as this. The Organs are losing. They had bad
luck and a lottery anyways. They could even land the
number one pick a little too, So as far as
I'm concerned, you don't need to tank. They I know
if they were tanking, but they were bad and they
still never got the number one or two picking the draft.
So even at that a few other things I want

(01:02:33):
to get to. Connor Helibic becomes the seventh goal in
NHL history record forty five wins in a single season.
They can go a little bit wrapping on some of
these thoughts, So Mike with your thoughts about Connor Hellibik.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Great goalie, probably on a mission this year after his
disappointing first round last year against Colorado. They were, you know,
they were a favorite in the West last year and
and they got bounced early, and he would is not
very good. I mean, I think the game one he
gave up seven or eight. So kuros to him for

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evident bounds back season, also for wanting to play in
Winnipeg and for signing the signing. There a lot of guys,
especially his caliber and a goaltender, I would take the
money to get the heck out of there, but he
committed himself long term there to be the guy. He's
on a mission this year, had a great season, and

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I would I would make them my favorite right now
in the NHL. And nobody wants to say that, but
look at what they did in the regular season. I
don't I don't know why they're not the favorite to
win the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Good point, sorry, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Obviously, Connor hellibuckets u arguably the best goalie in the league,
I would say, And obviously he has a lot of
local UH connections, being a Michigan native and having gone
to high school locally here, which is to see Michigan
pumping out so many great hockey talents. But I think

(01:04:05):
that as as Connor Hallibut goes the so Goo, the
Winnipeg Jets essentially obviously they have a lot of great
players up front, but you're not gonna get it done
without good goaltending. He's been their rock all season. I
would he would be my pick for the Vesna Trophy
as the league's best goalie this year again, and we'll
we'll see how far you can take them. Maybe maybe

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it's the Jets who can finally end the long Canadian
Stanley Cup droughty.

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
Good when you win forty five games and then you
have the memory of the first round bounce. The biggest
thing is you don't want a reputation. And I'm gonna
say this for front officees. Remember all of these leagues,
whether it's baseball, basketball, football, hockey, any but it's gonna
be a fraternity. There's gonna be our thought process. You
don't want the idea of being the regular season guy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
You don't want to be.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Okay, he's so.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
Good there that Willie bomb will he bomb win accounts.
He's gonna need these type and in truth to be
in Winnipeg, they're probably they got two oh on Saint Louis.
They probably need to sweep them right in truth to
really keep that thing. I mean, you said it yourself, Mike,
coming in with on a mission, they kind of be

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really need to be a mission.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
You don't need.

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
They really don't need a battle from an eight seed,
from a team that's done this before in nineteen came.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
All the dang way back.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
They don't need a battle.

Speaker 9 (01:05:34):
They need to get rid of him quick, George.

Speaker 8 (01:05:39):
Yeah, Connor is a great goaltender. Obviously, he's first in
this season with forty seven wins. He's first with the
goals against two point oh one, and he's second in
say percentage at ninety two and first in shutouts with eight.
So there's no question about it. Thirty one years old,
and you're right, Mike, commerce Township which is the home

(01:06:01):
of our friends Jim Brandstadter, Uh and Robbie. You know,
it's great to see Connor do this. And I agree
with you, Santos, I did pick Winnipeg. I know there
was one show, it was either a week or two
ago that Scott was asking us who we might think
in the playoffs have an extended run or end up

(01:06:22):
in the finals. On the paper, what a pick should
do it? But there's that old thing that still bothers
so many people. It's called the President's Trophy, jinks. And
obviously Winnipeg won the President's Trophy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
I think it's the.

Speaker 8 (01:06:35):
First time in history. I'm sure it is. But hey,
with Connor at the helm, I agree they should be.
They should be all the way to the finals. But hey,
we know it's the toughest postseason in all of sports.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Okay, Candy, what hell do you wear it? First?

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
You know where JB's hat for. If every win's by
a goalie is a great achievement, especially in today's NHL,
where goalies don't usually play back to back games and
the talent level is so much faster and quicker. He
had hell of a season. And now if you can
stay hot, who knows where his team can end up.
NHL players are our NHL playoffs are all about hot

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goalies at the right time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
All right, what's your sake, Candy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
We're gonna say the same like anytime you have excel
and win as many as as he did from a goalie,
that's young, young, goalie. Kudos to him, like that's awesome
and hopefully, well hopefully or not hopefully, depending on what

(01:07:43):
team you're rooting for, whether you want to see him
have continued success in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
The one thing I'll say about this whole thing is this,
And I know a lot of people might let to
see this matchup if it ever plays out. How many
people wouldn't want to see winnip take on Florida, Paul
Maurice's old team. Many thought there was a chance of
it last year. I tell you, if you thought the
ticket prices were high for Edmonton and you had Connor McDavid,

(01:08:12):
I think one thing that would happen was Paul Maurice
is He's gonna have a lot of heart burn over this,
facing a team that he decided to leave. But he says,
if the Panthers don't win it, and I want to
see the Winnipeg Jets win it, you never know, You
just never know. I'm just simply throwing it out there,

(01:08:34):
all right. So if we're talking to the NHL, we're
doing a lot of hockey tonight, just gonna mention some
more fyis and people can call me in on them
if they want, and we do have a pun pundit
segment buried into this whole hockey show. Connor McDavid becomes
the fourth active player in NHL history to achieve eight
career one hundred point seasons. He joins the lakes of
Marcel Dion with eight, Marie Lemou with ten, and Wayne

(01:08:58):
Gritzky with fifteen. We don't need long answer to this one,
but Mike, what are your thoughts about what Conner McDavid
just did.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Well, He's I mean, he's far and away right now
the best player of this generation, and I include Ovechkin
and Crosby in the previous generation. Ah, but I don't
think there's anybody that can touch him. I mean Matthews obviously,
you know he's on a on a on a pace

(01:09:27):
to score a ton of goals in this league. But
I don't think he's the dynamic player that McDavid is.
I don't think he's the exciting player that McDavid is. Sadly,
for the NHL that we've been talking about tonight, which
has lots of great markets now in places like Vegas

(01:09:49):
in southern California and Texas and Florida, he's stuck up
there in Edmonton, and so most of you know, most
of the country, especially on the Eastern seaboard here gets
to see him play one time a year in their market,
and so it's too bad. I don't think I don't
think a lot of people really know as much about him,

(01:10:13):
and it's too bad.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
All right, Mike Whittaker.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
The actually apologize guys. It's just bear with me. One
secondary seems to be having an issue with Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
All right, we'll come back to go to George Acorn.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Yeh Scott. I agree with what Mike Santo said.

Speaker 8 (01:10:37):
I mean, you know, here's here's a guy that you're
one of your premier players in your league and he's
playing for a team in the middle of Canada. Now,
of course, we saw with Wayne Gretzky, and we saw
how great the Edmonton Oilers achieved success with Messi A
and Gretzky and all the other ones.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
But this is a little bit different.

Speaker 8 (01:10:55):
This is a guy who is undoubtedly one of the
top tier players in the league. Gosh sixty four goals
just a couple of years ago, and h three hundred
and sixty one goals in his career already in seven
hundred and twelve games played. Connor McDavid is a is
a matinee idol. He should be focused of a lot
of teams. But the thing is, just like you said, Mike,

(01:11:18):
is that you know you're see him once a year.
You're gonna come to madisonsquare Garden once, You're going to
go to Detroit once, You're going to play at the
Forum once. So it is difficult to be a star
in this league now, especially when you're with a team
that is not at one of the market cities, the
premier cities, if you will, What what.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Would have happened had Gretzky not been traded to LA.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Yeah, good question.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
That trade is given a lot of credit for the
expansion of the league into what they called the sunbuilt markets,
And people have to realize that Gretzky played more than
the second half of his career in the United States,
you know, in LA, but obviously also.

Speaker 9 (01:12:06):
In New York, in St. Louis.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
That added a lot to the league, obviously, but it
added a lot to his legacy as well, because once
that happened and he had all the he had all
the Stanley Cups behind him at that point in time, Right,
I mean, he won all the Stanley Cups up at Edmonton,
but it was the second half of his career.

Speaker 9 (01:12:34):
But everybody in the US really got.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
A chance to see him, and that's probably what he
did the most good for the sport and the league,
was his second half of his career.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Well, I mean, I'll say this much. The one thing
the NHL has going for at the NBA, doesn't You
don't ever worry about load man event in the NHL,
these guys played through practically everything. In the NBA doesn't
play through anything, so you don't have to worry about
load management the NHL. These are the most peerson athletes
I've ever seen that really worked as hard as they
can and get paid lesson to these other guys in

(01:13:07):
the league. So I just hope that Toner McDavid does
win a Stanley Cup championship at some point. All right,
back to Mike Whittaker. Then we go to Jacob and
then we go to the Candy JV combination.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Well, I think we saw it McDavid's greatness on display
there the other night. The other night against the Los
Angeles Kings with his UH pretty much single handedly taking
over the third period UH for the Oilers. Unfortunately that
game did not end well for them, and obviously Edmonton
Vans are extremely upset with their goaltending today. But McDavid

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just continues to be just completely on another level. We
can see how much he cares about winning, especially after
his uh, you know, his his his tiers in the
locker room after losing Game seven to the to the Panthers.
I think that really sticks with a lot of Oilers fans.
They can see his devotion to his craft and he
he he truly is on another level, and it would

(01:14:04):
be cool for the game to see him win the
Stanley Cup at some point. But I mean, I guess
we could open Pandora's box and wonder whether or not
it's going to be with the Oilers though.

Speaker 7 (01:14:17):
All right, Jacob, if you'd never watched one single solitary
hockey game ever and your first game, I've watched thousands,
you know, and I've done all that kind of stuff.
But I'm just saying that if a person hasn't and
they watched that tournament to the USA Canada Final and
they watched all that, first thing they would see if

(01:14:39):
you look at that is Connor McDavid flying down the
middle of the ice, realizing that's a star right there
out of everybody that we see. It was a wonderful game.
But you just take one look at it. You could
just tell things. When someone's a star, you give them
a point, you could just say, you can just tell
their movement, their there are uh, their confidence connorc David

(01:15:03):
has it in more and you brought up yourself, George
three hundred and sixty four career goals already.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (01:15:08):
I mean, I mean we were thinking, without a shadow
of a doubt, no one's catching Wayne, and no one's
will catch his points regardless, but no one but ob
catches Wayne's goals. And the way that McDavid's going and
that Wayne's will be third, the way that that's going.

(01:15:28):
But far the biggest thing is as far as will
we win it with Edmonton and everything like that. This
isn't Peter Pocklington anymore. This isn't that kind of deal
by itself. It's like more than just that team has
their kind of issues whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
By itself.

Speaker 7 (01:15:45):
It's such a changed league that I mean, we've watched
thirty for thirty and what happened with Wayne? You know
what I'm saying, we've seen it, we know the whole
story by now, just to touch a different time, I
think he wins it, but it's like, is it with
Edmonton fifty to fifty?

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Interesting point, Mike, it's the problem with the camera. Let's
get it figured out accord in there. I just want
to make sure that everything school on your own, all right,
Let's go to Candy.

Speaker 9 (01:16:13):
And jb Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
So as for me, I think since I'm not as
big of a hockey fan as some others on this panel,
especially knowing that people are talking putting him and talking
about him in the same sentence as Wayne Gretzky tells
you what kind of a player he is, because Wayne

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is known for everybody, anybody that knows anything about sports knows.
Wayne Gretzky's name is synonymous with hockey, and so to
be putting Connor McDavid's name in the same sentence means
he's a great player, means he's very and he's been
very off. He's had a dominance on the offensive side.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
I do.

Speaker 6 (01:17:01):
I did watch some of the finals last year and
saw and I've seen some of his games. He is
a great player and he's good for hockey because he's
just because he's so good, because he seems like an
all around good player. He's good for what's good in hockey. Now,

(01:17:21):
as far as JB's comments, is there any question he
is the best on the ice at the moment. Would
love to see him play for the Stanley Cup and
get the ratings up. Think he is what the NHL
needs to draw in eyes and become more relevant.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
All right, I'm kind of the last here. Most goals
all the time, including the playoffs. Top ten. I want
each and everyone you to size up this list. Okay,
we'll start off with Mike Wayne Gretzky has one thy
sixteen goals, Alexovetska say nine sixty sixteen, counting forty, Hall
eight sixty nine, Red Hull eight forty four, alng with Yarmer,
Yagur same number eight four before, Mark Messi eight O three,

(01:18:01):
Phil Esposito, can't he put that picture up there? I'm
proud of this one seven seventy eight. There's a good picture.
When I was up there recently. I'll be in front
of his statue and Emily, what I mean, what a
nice statue to be in front of Bill, Phil mary
O Lemeue seven sixty six, these Iserman seven sixty two,
and Marcel Dion seven fifty two. Basically enough, all of

(01:18:21):
Dion's points were with the La King, so he never
made it to the postseason with the Red Wings. All right, Mike,
size up this list. What do you think about this group?

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
I mean, obviously elite performers and elite playoff performers, but
I think there's a difference between say, Brett Hall and
Alex Ovetskin who scored goals, and Wayne Gretzky and Mario
Lemieu that did so much more in the playoffs than

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just score goals. And and you can go down the list, right,
I mean you put I'd put Eisenman in on the
on the side with Gretzky and the mu right.

Speaker 9 (01:19:00):
Uh Esposito.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Uh not as.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
A better a better complete player than most people gave
credit for, but still known as the guy that's going
to put the puck in the net.

Speaker 9 (01:19:15):
So I mean that's how I size up the list.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
There's there's guys in that list that there's no doubt
they could score goals, but there's also guys on the
list that did so much more during the playoffs than
just score goals.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
All right, Mike, how do you size up the list?

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
It's obviously he's very very difficult to when you talk
about the intangibles of certain players that we that you
were just discussing there. Obviously, player like Alex Ovechkin is
gonna be known for his goal scoring, whereas a player
like Wayne Gretzky played an all around game. Obviously, his
amount of assists alone, who would put him in first

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place in any NHL history just for points, And so
maybe some of these players are regarded as a bit
more one mentioned. But you know what, what Ovechkin was
able to accomplish this season by tying Gretzkien goals. I
don't think anybody ever thought at the time that that
record would be broken. Then you have a guy like

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kind of like you mentioned Yar Mary Yager, who not
only consistently scored, but was his longevity was just legendary.
Not I believe he's even still playing at the age
of fifty or or you know however old he is
in his native homeland right now. Obviously, you have the
greats that people around here that where George and I

(01:20:34):
are are greatly familiar with. Obviously, like Steve Eisman. Like
Gordie Howe, Marcel Dion did play in Detroit and albeit briefly,
but went on to enjoy more of a more notable
career with the Los Angeles Kings. But yeah, just every
every player on that on the list that he gave
is great in their own way. Some excelled that different

(01:20:55):
things better than others. But it's really hard to stack
up great and it's more than more than those names there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
We'll turn over to George Well.

Speaker 8 (01:21:06):
Yeah, yeah, well obviously in Detroit. Yeah, Gordie how I
think you said, Scott is number three on the list.
And the thing that strikes a lot of us about
Gordy is, obviously Gordy was not afraid to muck it
up and give you an elbow getting your Gordi how penalty.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
I mean, a hat trick, as they as they label it.
You know, I think of him as more of.

Speaker 8 (01:21:31):
A complete Okay, don't get me wrong. I'm not taking
away from Gretzky and Novechkin. They're great goal scorers and
all that, but I mean, you talk about a guy
who toughed it out and and and that was Gordi
how But then again, all the other great players that
you mentioned.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
It's just phenomenal.

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
I mean it's like this, Okay, you could do well
in your career, and you can have great regular seasons,
but what you are remembered for most by the die
hard fans. I believe how many titles did your team
win or how many finals games you played and championships
you brought to our team.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
So I mean you could keep.

Speaker 8 (01:22:06):
Bracking up statistics and goals and all that. Now, Vechigan's
only got one Cup so far, so and they got
a good chance this year. But let's see if he
could do it. And he's Washington team. But I always
look at it, how did it fit into the master
plan of the team, the franchise he's playing for, and
going and yeah, going to the finals.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Jacob my, I mean you brought.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
Up Gretzky to Saint Louis.

Speaker 7 (01:22:32):
I thought they had it after all those times of
watching Detroit take them out all those times, and.

Speaker 5 (01:22:40):
Then what happens.

Speaker 7 (01:22:41):
Gretzky gives up the turnover and double overtime bang after
pretty much after the bet in the clink off the
top of the post.

Speaker 5 (01:22:51):
I still remember that clink. I was listening to it
on the radio it's crazy, and then Gretzky does that,
but really overall you I brought up another one. It
was one of my favorites, Brett Hall. Never hear it anymore.
I never hear that name anymore. And that was one
of my favorites ever.

Speaker 7 (01:23:07):
And it's like eight hundred and forty four goals and
you just think about that for a second. But again,
goal scorer, you know, slap shot guy, just like with
Al mcguinnis you have all of those you have, I mean,
but here's the thing with these points, with the way
they're going, and it's such a different game now, and

(01:23:28):
the OBI started something. How much longer before some of
these other guys do it and then the pat and
the future draft picks do it. How much longer do
these records have? I thought that these were going forever?
I think Wayne's is it twenty eight fifty? I believe
twenty eight to seventy nine or something something like that.
I believe that stays just because he did it all.

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But how much longer do the goal scoring, the all
that stuff, any the individual things, How long does that have?

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
I would have thought it then forever?

Speaker 6 (01:24:03):
Good kadie, I'm gonna put the JB hat on first.
The talent on this list, it's top right either way.
Gretzky is the best to lace the skates, followed by
Howe and Hull, But that doesn't ever take away from
Wevechkin's greatness. To even be included with those names shows
that you are a great player. What I'm going to

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say is there's lists. There's a list for everything. You
can list whatever you can list, and a list always
has have to have a cutoff point. When you're talking
about greatness of players, you're being subjective because obviously you can't. Yes.

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A lot of times you qualify. A lot of people
will qualify by did you win champions were you MVP?

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Did you you know?

Speaker 6 (01:24:56):
Like for football is how many Super Bowl trophies do
you have for a quarterback? That determines if you're, you know, elite.
But I think those named on that list are very talented,
very talented players. But again I think Gretzky, I think

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some of them stand above and I think there's a
little bit of a drop off in that list.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Okay, I'll give you a summary of every player where
when I think I know in my mind is correct,
Lane Gresky was smart took number ninety nine. Why didn't
want to wear nine for Gordy? How? I guess part
of the thing is I'm surprised he played for as
many franchises as he did. Alexovechkin has a goalscoring record
that will never be broken Ordy. How what can I say?

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Mister Hockey owns the name no matter how many of
his records are broken, Mister hockey is what it is,
and mister Hockey will be known for his loggy as
well as his goal scoring process prowess. I should say
Brett Hall. Can't believe this, but somebody's actually better than
Bobby Hall. And is Brett Hall. Jar Mary Agar another

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one of those guys, has played into his fifties and
as durable as you can believe. And his career played
with Florida, played with Pittsburgh, He's played everywhere. I'm just
amazed that he's had the dedication to the sport that
he's had. Mark Messi, what's he known for the Cups
in Edmonton?

Speaker 9 (01:26:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
How about the one he won with the New York
Rangers and broke that major trout in New York. Bill
Lisposito scored seventy six goals back in the seventies. That's
uni legal. We talked about the goals that were being
scored these days. Let's not forget that Mario Lemue. Without
Mary Oleumieux, there would be no Pittsburgh Penguins period. They
were bankrupt and they're ready to go. And Mario Olumieue

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not only Amass's seven hundred and sixties six goals with
saves the franchise. Steve Weiserman, we'll see what we'll see
if he can get this bill figured out. But on
the ice, he was unbelievable and it was good for
three Stanley Cups and was a major factor with Tampa
Bay Lightning turning into what they are in Marcel Dion.
The reason why is that they have that thing to

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protect the players at Olympia Stadium was because of Marcel Dion.
The guy still to me, is one of those players
that put Southern California out of the map by playing
with the LA Games. That's what I think of them all.
There's the top ten list, and I think that all
the reasons they stated for him, they all disserve kudos
in a lot of different ways. So that we have

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one more topic, I want to get to hockey wise,
and the one that obviously is most interesting for a
lot of people in these parts. As the Florida Panthers
ended up beating the Dampa Bay Lightning six to two
at Amile Arena, Matthew to Chuck comes back his first game, Jacob,
what are your thoughts about what took place down in Tampa?

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
You actually had a I actually had a little thing here.
You need to kind of half repeat the deal because
getting a storm.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Here right now?

Speaker 5 (01:28:01):
Say it again?

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
Sure the problem Florida Panthers six Tampa Bay Lightning too.
Lightning were actually favorite to win this series. Florida leads
the series one and not think about Matthew Chuck breaks
his return after being out with an injury from the
Four Nations. So give me your thoughts about he signed
up the Panthers Lightning series. We know what's going on.

Speaker 7 (01:28:23):
Well, the thing about it is the fact that we
just talked about Florida by itself, it's like until then
to me, they're death favorites just I mean maybe then
maybe Winnipeg. But just from that thing, there's no shock.
It's like all I'm seeing right now is until they're
otherwise we talked about pal Maurice, we talked about all
of this. Until they can get beat I think I

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consider it favorites.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
That's just truth, Okaya.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
Mike Whittaker, I think the biggest storyline so far in
that series is just how bad Andrea Vezeleski looked. I
think the Panthers had less than twenty shots on goal
and Vasileski allowed six, which is just unthinkable for him. Obviously,
the Panthers got a tremendous boost by getting Matthew could

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Chuck back second year in a row that they've met
each other in the first round of the playoffs, and
the Lightning did not take advantage of their home ice
during the game. And I mean they're the chance for
a reason. That's the Stanley Cup is theirs until somebody
takes it from them. And based on their performance in

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Game one, they they have no intention of letting of
letting the Lightning knock them down.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
So George Kelrn, well, yeah, I mean I think he
nailed it.

Speaker 8 (01:29:44):
They're Whittaker, they are the champions and until somebody can
take them away. Wins thirty one losses during the year,
Florida had a really good season, but Tampa Bay did also.
This is really to me, it's kind of like unfortunate
on two counts. Two counts is that they both deserve

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to advance in the playoffs. The other count is they're
both from the same state, so a lot of the
hockey fans are split, and obviously the uh, you know what,
the state's going to lose one of their teams rather
quickly here. I still think it's going to go seven games,
but I think the Panthers have the edge. But I
think this is going to be This is going to
be a real war, I believe. But I'm giving forward

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to the advantage of the Panthers, that is to win
four games to three.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Do you think, Mike, Well, first of all, this is
why I'm thankful that the NHL went back to divisional
playoffs for two rounds, because untill they did that, the
Panthers and.

Speaker 9 (01:30:46):
The Lightning never played a playoff series.

Speaker 4 (01:30:49):
Right, How great is it now they've both been competitive
for one thing, but that they've met so often in
the last ten years in the playoffs.

Speaker 9 (01:31:00):
That's great for the sport of hockey and Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
It's great for the rivalry, and it's great in other
markets when you can have those matchups. I mean, you
guys are Detroit guys, I'm sure you're fond of all
those matchups you used to have in the Norris Division
back in the days. You have a fighting way out
of the division for two rounds, and that's what that's
what we have again for the most part with the
with the divisional playoffs, and everybody's like, oh, it's not fair,

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we should line them up one to eight and all
this other bs. This is this is what people want
to see. This is what makes NHL playoffs so great.
And who cares if once in a while the Minnesota
north Stars make it to the finals with a five
hundred record. Who cares? That being said, I do agree

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with Florida. I think it's going to be a long
series despite what happened in Game one. But what happened
in Game one is the Florida pan Panthers played playoff
hockey and the Tampa Bay Lightning did not. There's not
a lot of space on the ice in playoff hockey.
The shots were like twenty one or twenty two to seventeen.

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Florida Panthers got the better goaltending. They scored three goals
on the power play, and they were a much more
aggressive and physical team, and that's.

Speaker 9 (01:32:18):
How you play playoff hockey. So that's why they went
and I.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
From the physical standpoint, getting kid chucked back.

Speaker 9 (01:32:28):
Had a lot to do with that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:30):
But they played a better playoff game than Tampa did.
They got the goaltending, they scored on the power play
three times, and they were the more aggressive and more
physical teams.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Okay, Candy, so.

Speaker 6 (01:32:44):
I'm gonna put my candy head on first. So let's
remember to Chuck missed the last twenty five games. Twenty
five games of the regular season, so that means there's
other people in there trying taking his place. So that
means their bench was deeper because they've had the bench

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players had more time. One of the things to Tuck
said is you miss competing. You miss the fans, the energy,
the emotion, the battles with the other team, the chirps
on your own bench. It's just so much stuff that
you miss. He played with so much more energy, and
I think because he missed it. One of the things

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that Paul Maurice said is that to Chuck's impact is
as a difference maker. He's got an incredible set of hands,
got an incredible gift for the emotional needs of the game,
when you need a hit, when you need a big play.
He's been great for us and he's been there, so
I think him coming back elevated the team that much more.

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And in playoff hockey, it's the little things that you
that give you the edge. You got to do everything right,
but I think they played with a little different, better edge.
I'm hoping they take the series. Let's see what happens
tomorrow night in Game two and now the JB. This

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should be a fun series and hopefully it becomes a
heated rivalry. I like the Panthers and six over a
Lightning team that has seen better days.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Fair enough, and just a little teaser, we're going to
be Mike, just so you know ahead of time, we're
going to talk about Steven Stamkos on next week's edition
of the Sports Exchange, So I want to bring that up.
You didn't have time for it this week, but just
a little sum to prepare you for all. I can
tell you, Serge, but Rosky's on money goaltender in the playoffs,
and until anybody tells me he's not, that's one thing.

(01:34:45):
But this series is definitely going to be a war
for sure. I've seen these teams play during the regular season,
and the amount of fisticuffs that go on to me,
reminds me of that old book. I don't know, Mike,
if you ever saw that book Blood on the Ice
many years ago, I will give you that feeling. That's
what it seems like out there. It days so, but
I expect the Lightning to come back stronger. The Game

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one was a wake up calls about justice now to
Lightning get into trouble tomorrow. This thing could be a
short series for sure, So we're gonna lighten this thing
up a little bit with the Pundit's Pundit segment. Mike,
I don't know what it is as a very light,
heighted segment, and Pundit's Punnit was the show that Jacob
and I and George had a while back. We talked
about some other than sports. But because we're bringing you

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on for the first time since we started the show
off on a tough note with Steve McMichael, this one
is as softened note as you can get. And let
me tell you people, the nineteen year old took his
eighty five year old grandmother to a prom because she
never got to go to one when she was young.

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Austin Dennison nineteen of Ohio invited his eighty nine year
old grandmother, Dolores. Oh, my goodness, Grandma Sophie, I never
went to a prom. But now when I read this,
I would have taken you to one. But I still
would have worn jeans. I don't believe interested enough.

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
That's me.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
She wouldn't have cared. I would have taken my grandma
Sophie to a prom. Love your grandma Sophie recipes and
I thought of this story. I thought of my grandma Sophie.
I talked her in a while. Great stuff. All right, Mike,
what do you think about that? Would you take your grandmother.

Speaker 8 (01:36:27):
To a prom?

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
I think it's very nice for this guy to take
his grandmother and a prom. My question is, what the
hell is a nineteen year old doing going to the
high school prom. He's still in high school at nineteen
years old. That's a little bit of a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
That's true. Nineteen.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
I never thought about that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:52):
Even worse, if she's eighty nine and still in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Goodness, Well, now that you mentioned that, Jacob is your topic,
what do you think nineteen. Well, the only way I
could think of that is if he missed the deadline
in December and he's one of the oldest in his classes.
Because I fell a victim of that. I should have
graduated high school in nineteen eighty, not eighty one. That's
the only thing that comes to mind. But Mike, I

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breathed up eighty nine versus what nineteen or No. Eighty five?

Speaker 7 (01:37:25):
Talk about it? Talk about Robin the Cradle. Let's go
to a cut point. But still, but I love it
because I was close to my I was close to
my grandma too. I was close to my parents, close
to everything. I didn't I didn't I'll tell you this.
I didn't go to my own personal problem like I
went to somebody else's, but I didn't go to my

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own personal one. So I get to this point and
he's probably very close to her. And I love hearing
stories like this because there.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
Weren't a lot. You hear this because we hear too
much anger in news. We hear too much anger. We're
hearing them where they're stabbing their parents, stabbing their grandparents,
they're getting angry, they're doing all this stuff. It's good
to see somebody that you just loves, you know, and
it's like, now we're getting this point where it's like,

(01:38:13):
let's do a lighthearted deal of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
What if we ignored some of the.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
Heat once in a while and started showing more.

Speaker 7 (01:38:22):
And that's the one thing I can say with media
by itself, if it bleeds, it leaves you've been I mean, remember,
by itself, you had all the smoke inside of the place,
with the click clack, click clack, click clack.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
You were in that world.

Speaker 5 (01:38:36):
But you were in that world.

Speaker 7 (01:38:38):
But the big thing about this by itself is the
fact that there seemed to be more respect than there
isn't any kind of respect right now. So what if
we change things up a little bit. What if we
made these affront page a little bit? You know, people
will say, oh, it wouldn't make the same money. Maybe
not at first, but maybe people get Maybe people either

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love it so much or they get out because they're
so bored, they get out.

Speaker 5 (01:39:05):
And touch grass for once. Maybe we need to think
of something along those lines.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
That's why I brought it up tonight, Diaco, this lighthearted.
I have other stuff that we can get to, but
this one just got to my heart and considering I've
had head injuries. At least it took my mind off
the head injuries, and go ahead, put the mind on
my heart, Candy. You don't have to wait last on
this one. This is an unbelievable thing here. I mean,
think about the guy. The kid's nineteen, he's taking an

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eighty nine year old grandmother or a prom. First of all,
I never went to a prom, so it doesn't matter,
no loss to me. But if I had taken my
grandmother or might have thought differently, All right, can't do
what do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:39:43):
I think it's a beautiful gesture because I think in
a lot of things in society, we don't show our
elders the respect that they deserve. And to share this
special moments like this with a grandmother that had never
gone to prom shows a lot of character for a

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young high school age kid, because, let's face it, in
a day and age where a lot of people pick
on people, a lot of people bully people, a lot
of people talk down to other people, he did a
grand gesture that meant a lot to his grandmother. And
that's what it's all about. It's all about, it's all

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about making family happy and doing what you can to
help them be happier. So I think kudos to kudos
to him on the JB hat. That's what life should
should be about, taking care of your family, especially your
grandparents as they age. This kid is all class taking

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his grandmother to the prom and letting her have that experience.
Stories like these are the ones you wish the Evening
News would lead with the world might be a better placed.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
Still, get a hat that says jab and right the front.

Speaker 9 (01:41:03):
I just put it there.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Well, I'll tell you what. That's why I like my
book Old School Media Versus News school Media. I believe
in bringing this stuff on. All these big news outlets
get on my nerve. I'd rather eat my cooking and
read some of this garbage, all right, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Uh kind of kind of just building on what everybody
else has said. I mean, taking obviously was a very
nice gesture, and I'm sure that she appreciated that. And uh,
kind of going back to what Candy just said there,
it'd be nice if we had more high character people
like that in the world, especially especially in the on

(01:41:43):
the younger side of things, you know, I'm I'm sure
it was a very very well meaning thing to do.
And hopefully he kind of hopefully the person in uh
in question here kind of takes that Madra with him
for the rest of his life.

Speaker 8 (01:41:59):
Here, George, Yeah, I'll just to repeat the echo of
the earth sentiments. Most of you said that this is
a great thing for him to do, and you know
what a throw for his grandma as well. So hats
off to this young man and just a quick plug.
NBC News has a good News story every Saturday. The

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guy summarizes all good news that came out during the week,
So this is definitely a candidate for that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
This is a great story. I'm happy for the kid
and grandma.

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
No, I was just saying, George, I'm glad that they
do something like that, But just Saturday, I'm like the
reasoning I said something along those lines with that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Is what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:42:44):
Yeah, maybe it doesn't make amount of the same amount
of money, but maybe long term it either does or
it's the idea of people getting out on their feet
and meeting others, like getting.

Speaker 5 (01:42:56):
Out on grass.

Speaker 7 (01:42:57):
That's what my thought process of this is. Media used
to be the Lost Leader needs to go back to that.
Maybe sixty minutes ruined something, but I'm just going to
say that right there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
I'll just say sixty minutes is my favorite show.

Speaker 7 (01:43:10):
And it is, but just the idea of what they
used to do and then be a number one that
kind of ruined the idea of a loss leader.

Speaker 11 (01:43:17):
Let me tell you some sixty Minutes was the reason
I ended up watching the Master Tournament the last round.
Bye goodness, we had some good number and by the way,
we had some good numbers on that show. Sixty Minutes,
to me is something that I could lock into and
talk about everything that's right about old school media that
you're talking about, good hard new stuff for these reporters

(01:43:38):
asked requests Mike QJ comment on this one already, Santos, Yes, good.
So now you can comment about hockey operations.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
What's the latest update?

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
Not much going on, but we will have a big
announcement in probably once two weeks, so stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Great, we're going to make sure we get it first.
So but that' said, we welcome j Yellows back. That way,
Candy only has to wear one apple when he's not here,
she or the other. So anybody have any quick parting shots.
We do parting shots. We don't have them, no problem,
We'll wrap up the show with how everybody can get
a hold of each other.

Speaker 5 (01:44:15):
I'll do mine.

Speaker 7 (01:44:16):
I'll do mine, and then I'll do the party because
I got we went pat way past I thought. But
here's the parting shot. And I'm going to say this tonight.
A lot of people I was reading this little deal
about AI and our movies and what's going on right now,
and there's a lot of people that are in traditional
idea of the traditional movie, the traditional television show. They're

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worried about AI and what it could take over the
writing any of that stuff. Here's the thing, and a
lot of them are just panicking. And this is the
problem that we have with internet because we're on it
too much. As people panic, they're not thinking in context.
Here's the thing to realize people. It's going to make

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the independent and the regular movies that we know of
even better. It's gonna be because there's gonna be people
coming out there. There's gonna be a market for those
type of movies, the ones that are written, the ones
that don't have any AI, the ones that have a
low budget.

Speaker 5 (01:45:15):
There's gonna be plenty of that market. It's good, especially
what Hollywood's.

Speaker 7 (01:45:18):
In trouble right now, it's gonna be a little bit
of a war between Marvel and the AI and all
that stuff, and the movies that were made way back
in the day and the type that you have, there's
gonna be that, and the sports is gonna be that.
Everything's gonna be that. People panic too much because of AI.
Eventually in AI and everything is just gonna be there.
We can't do anything about it. But until that point,

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just realize there's people that are gonna what they call
troll and they're gonna want that type of stuff, And
then you're gonna want to be in that world because
it's gonna be interesting. The movies are gonna be the
ones that generate the most right now because you're gonna
see a battle and you watch it in the next five.

Speaker 9 (01:45:57):
Or ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Mike Wig or any party.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
I guess kind of building on what was just said
a moment ago as far as AI is concerned, I mean,
I'm kind of split on it, but I think kind
of like what you said there, it's going to be
developing a bigger presence in our lives, and I think
it's just something that most people have to get used to.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
George any party shots.

Speaker 3 (01:46:26):
Well, The only partying shot I have is hats off
to the Pistons.

Speaker 8 (01:46:29):
A lot of people wouldn't give them a snowballs chance
of hell to to even beat New York in Madison
Square Garden, and they did in Game two, setting up
a return to Detroit now with the series tied one one,
So the Pistons are for real, folks, and this is
going to be a very interesting series, a seven game series.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
Might He'll be there tomorrow night, Yes, yes, I will.
That's all right, Candy. Any parting shots, I'm not worrying
about JB. Whether he has any or not. No matter is.
I don't think you set one, and we didn't ask him.

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
I don't think so, No, he didn't. My parting shot
would just be enjoy anyone that's attending the NFL Draft.
Enjoy Green Bay. Enjoy all of the history and all
that it has to offer. There are a lot of
things to do there. Even though some people say that
there's nothing to do in Green Bay, there's a lot

(01:47:23):
of things that they did for the draft. They even
canceled school garbage collection along some of the roads because
the roads are shut down for the draft. Isn't happening,
So just enjoy the whole experience.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
Mike, everything on your mind you want to get off
your chest, parting shots, anything which parting shots, anything you
want to say about sports, or anything that you want
to get off your chest. Say anything about.

Speaker 9 (01:47:57):
For me. Yeah, oh, I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
No, NHL playoffs have begun, probably the greatest time of
year in sports. So enjoy the playoffs for the next
two months, especially the first round when there's hockey every night.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
All right, tell you what I have won, and it's
a pretty interesting one. I'll give you a good reason
to laugh at the New York Jets because they're the
only NFL, NBA or mL team to not make the
postseason during Pope France's tenure. Get that. In his tenures
the Pope the pot div the New York Jets never

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made the postseason. Oh I'm gay to get that one off.
Rest in peace, Pope Francs and more importantly, rest in peace,
Steven Michael. Well, that does it for this edition of
the Sports Exchange, we welcome Jamie Ellis back. Mike. You're
gonna really like this guy. He's one of my partners,
so he can talk any sport you want. We have

(01:48:57):
a lot of good things we're going to talk about.
Next week I'll be working on no So with that said, Jacob,
Christopher know you got to get out of here shortly,
so launch everybody know how they can get hold of you.

Speaker 5 (01:49:06):
I am here on the Wednesdays. I also do the pun,
not on this punt, I'm sorry. I do confidential and
I do this show on the Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (01:49:14):
Is my big time.

Speaker 7 (01:49:15):
I also I'm also working a way back into the
acting world and I probably get to start writing against him.

Speaker 5 (01:49:21):
Just letting you folks know.

Speaker 7 (01:49:22):
So life and I appreciate and I'm good to meet
you both. Mike's this is the this is the Mike.
This is the Mike and Mike that no one knows.

Speaker 9 (01:49:31):
We can just play it that way.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
So it's good to meet you both.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Hey, Jacob, we like to introduce you to a lot
of new people. And I'll tell you one thing. Mike
Santos has been a long time friend of mine. You
talk about relationships, We've been good friends for a long time. Mike,
and I'm proud of him. Is my buddy. And Mike
Whittaker is a prospect on the rise. So that said,
we'll turn over to Mike Whicker, goodnight everybody, all right,
can I Jacob thanks for being here all right, Mike Whittaker,

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everybody knows how they get a hold of.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
You on Twitter at m Whitaker Underscore eight to nine.
I'm gonna be posting start posting a lot more of
the work that I do for the Detroit Monitor, which
also gets posted on the South Florida's Tribune as well.
And like George mentioned, you'll be at the Pistons game tomorrow.
I will be there covering on Sunday afternoon for Game

(01:50:22):
four of the Pistons series. Let's hope for a win
and email M W H I T A K two
at emails dot edu.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
Okay, well, you know, Mike Santo's you probably a lot
of contact information you want to get out there, so
please feel free to put it out there.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
Just the easiest way to reach me is that m
Santos at Hockeyoperations dot org. If you've got anything to
do with hockey, there questions about hockey.

Speaker 9 (01:50:50):
Let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
All right, look forward to seeing the next wednesdanight, Mike,
We're gonna have another great show. I know we had
a lot of topics that we were on last week's agenda,
I hadded a couple well more. I'm glad we got
all those covered and we're going to be a little
more versatile next week, all right, George Iikorn, let everybody
know how they get a hold of and then Candy
will take us home.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
Sure there.

Speaker 8 (01:51:10):
I write for the South Florida Tribute on the contributor section,
and I also have a book out there. Came out
several years ago Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the air, and
there's a link to that book that Candy puts that
link at the end of my columns.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Feel free to order a copy.

Speaker 8 (01:51:28):
You can reach me at g Corn at yahoo dot
com or on Twitter at san g Sports ninety nine
and also on LinkedIn and Instagram and those kind of
things as well.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Okay, Candy take us home.

Speaker 6 (01:51:42):
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Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
All right, I want to thank Mike Santos for hanging
with us a little longer than we normally do. But
we had a lot to get to and I think
he certainly was well aware that we had a lot
more as we get to the playoffs of all those
conclusions of the regular season next week, we're gonna have
five people probably on anyways, and we're gonna be a
little bit more versatile with the topics. Just to give
you an idea. So with that said, anything she want

(01:53:00):
to add, Candy, you want to talk about the Chicks
or anything.

Speaker 9 (01:53:03):
Nope, I'm good all right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
So with that said, that does conclude this edition of
the Sports Exchange. On the thingk Joshua Door and Ralph
Williams for their participation in the chat room. So on
behalf of George Khorn, Jacob Christner, Candy Eveling, Mike Whittaker
and Mike Santos. My name is Scott Morgan, Rot the
Motor City mad Mouth. Thank you for joining us on
this edition of the Sports Exchange. We will see you
next Wednesday night. Every great week, everybody, and enjoy the

(01:53:26):
hockey playoffs, let alone the NBA playoffs and the NFL Draft.
Tonight everybody, Hey Ric

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