Will Atlanta Get a Third NHL Teamz?

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Happy with everybody. Welcome to a special edition of the
Sports Exchange. And why do I say this is special?
This is more topics specific. If you want to call
it a hockey show, yeah we can do that too.
But my name is Scott Mortar, MotorCity Man, mounth have
a really good crew on here. Tonight the title will
be will Atlanta get a third NHL team? And we'll
break down some other expansion candidates as well. Yeah, Candy,

(00:45):
We're going to stay with that format tonight for good reason,
so I'm able to keep track of what we're doing.
So I'm glad to have Joshua Drop pouncing on here
to get in here. Very good stuff. So but that's that.
I want to introduce our expansion Guru's name is Cliff Neil.
Why don't you give her everybody an introduction about where
you're at and why you got started with this.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm actually I work as a professor at Towns University
in taws And, Maryland. I lived in Lakes, Pennsylvania. I
spent sixteen years in the television news industry behind the scenes.
I'm a hockey fan from nineteen eighty The Miracle on Ice,
That's what got me started with this, and I just

(01:29):
have always been into, you know, following expansion. I've all
been all about that, and I've always had a problem
with a lot of times how they organize it, and
I think I can do it better. So and it's
just it's just I just I care about the game,
and that's that's why I'm here.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, Well, thanks for joining us. Can't to Night a
regular on the Wednesday show, And of course we have
Cody Is joining us as well from out in Anaheim.
I know he's on call with this trucking company, but
he always likes to come on. We a get an
opportunity because this is an opportunity to let him talk
about expansion. And we have George I. Corner and Jacob

(02:07):
Christner of the regulars as well on the program. Let's
get going here. First of all, let's talk about Atlanta's
teacher sports schedule. They hosted the twenty twenty five MLB
All Star Game, the twenty twenty five College Football National Title,
the twenty twenty five REFA World Club World Cup, and

(02:28):
now up ahead for Atlanta they have the twenty twenty
six World Cup, the twenty twenty eight Super Bowl, and
the twenty thirty one Men's Final four. All right, Cliff,
First of all, here's what you've got. Okay, Atlanta is
definitely prime to go out there and host a lot
of events. How do you like the lineup that they've
had to try to get big events?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
That's great, that's fine. I have a problem with them
having a hockey team, but you know, that's it is different.
Georgia has definitely grown in the last few years. In
addition to all those wonderful sports things, Tyler Perry has
since started his production company down there. They're doing lots

(03:11):
of stuff. If you notice when you watch Disney Plus,
there's a lot of stuff come out in Georgia. So
there's you know, it's a it's a hot state, and
it's great. Those sports are great, FIFA and basketball and
all those other things. In the football it's all great.
What's that got to do with hockey? You know, it's

(03:32):
it's it's failed twice, and from what I hear, it's
a good It's not even in Atlanta. It's in Forsyth County,
about thirty to forty miles north.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, we'll get to that shortly. I just want to
get your thoughts about Atlanta getting an awful lot of activity.
It looks like it's a hot place for hot events.
Along the fact that they've built a couple of stadiums.
It looks like another one on the way. All right,
next stuff is Jacob Kristner in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I live here in Apa, out of Georgia, Okay.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
And the big thing about it is, it's if I
would stay in this certain area right now, the hockey Stadium,
they would be tearing down the mall and I would
be about two miles for.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Me, Well, what are your thoughts taken about all the
events that have taken place and are going to take place?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Believable?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Oh no, Land is growing enormously and it's and it
is going to be the new Hollywood. It really is
the new Hollywood right now. The events are the events
are unreal. They have they keep that and they're gonna
be having final fours, there's no question about that, right.
The big thing about this is the big thing though.
You got to realize this cliff. They also were they

(04:42):
weren't doing exceptionally well at the Turner Field because people
didn't want to go at night. They're doing even even
with the Braves right now, and Yeah, they're struggling. People
want to be in the battery, right, People want to
be better. The thing about it is, they're gonna there's
no question in my mind. With the amount of space
and I met that mall all the time, two miles
from it, no, two to three miles, no question in

(05:05):
my mind, they're going to build another battery type thing
for the thing to make it work, To make that
work over there. As far as the hockey to try
to make that this I because where it was the
last time to what people don't want to go through that.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, but Jacob, let me point out something, and I
know that we're you're ahead of me. I knew this
was the type of topic that would warrant people thinking ahead.
And there's no problem with that whatsoever. I just want
to make that very clear upfront. The bottom line, Atlanta
is a hot place for a bitch. That's all I'm
going here. The other stuff will get to in just
a moment, I promise you. So that said, Okay, are

(05:39):
you pretty impressed the fact that Atlanta's getting all these events? Oh?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, I've been here twenty years and I've watched it grow.
I have watched to grow, and I haven't impressed with it.
And the thing was, it really did well, considering that
it couldn't have possibly done well. And when they tore
took the All Star Game away in the first time around,
you would have thought that people wouldn't have but they
showed up. They showed up. I was there at the

(06:03):
All Star weekend. They definitely showed up. People wanted it.
It's Atlanta is an enormously growing city. So yeah, there's
the idea, and there isn't a question, and I know
that you keep.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Going, Okay, okay, George, your daughter lives there, Yeah, she does.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
My daughter and my son in law love it in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, they get a lot of big events. Obviously in Detroit, Yeah,
they've been getting a lot of big ones. So it
looks like Atlanta's not place to put a lot.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Of Definitely, definitely, yeah, Scott, it's one of the top venues.
I would put Indianapolis in that category, but let's just
talk about Atlanta. Yeah, they got one of the busiest
airports in the world. They have a lot of people
coming in and out of that city and a great
population based in the metropolitan area. But yeah, they are
they are good hosts for these big events that come,

(06:55):
whether it's n Cuba or NFL or whatever, They've done
a great job and they continue to do a good job.
So yeah, I think Atlanta is a sort of like
a five star, you know, destination for sports, you know,
both college and pro.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Okay Man totally.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Well, I'm on the complete opposite side of the country
to really have a lot of opinion. But I mean
I was when I first got into hockey the Thrashers
were around, you know, I just remember Danny Heatley just
tearing it up there. But I mean, I would love
for there to be a new team in Atlanta. As

(07:37):
long as they get the right ownership and the right
area to get this done, I think I think it
would be good, especially since, like I know, the Braves
have been struggling, but they just recently won a World Series.
Georgia football has been one of the most dominant college
football teams lately, you know, the I know the Hawks
have been up and down down there and everything. But

(07:58):
I mean, as like I said, as long as they
get the right ownership and the right front office and
do everything right, then I can see There's been a
lot differently than the Atlanta Flames and the Thrashers did.
But I just hope they bring back the Thrashers because
I love those sweaters that they had there.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, well we're gonna talk. I'm gonna mention a little
bit of well the Thrashers in a moment, they'll just
be an FYI I know what need for everybody to
comment on it. So I guess that leaves it up
to Andy.

Speaker 7 (08:30):
So Atlanta has been growing and it has a population
of what over five hundred thousand. People like they should
get some of these big events. It shouldn't. And what
I like is seeing these big events revolving and going
from different places, different states, so different people in different

(08:52):
venues so people can see it. They don't have to
travel as far. Yes, some of the big, big events
you're going to get your big celebrities always that go
to but I like it rotating and moving around so
that different people can see it. Kudos to Atlanta for
getting you know, some of these they've had some new
stadiums and not two distant future or past. So I

(09:18):
think it's cool that they're bringing some of the big,
big events to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Now, I'll say one thing about Atlanta. I give them
a lot of credit Turner Field. At least they did
tear it down and they gave it to Georgia State
University for football. A lot of ordinances like to tear
down stadiums really quickly. They didn't do it. More power
to them. I want to make sure we get that done.
Two events on my radar would be God willing my

(09:46):
healthholds up. Right now, I'm dealing with some challenges. The
twenty twenty eight Super Bowl and the twenty thirty one
Men's Final Four. I've been to a Final four and
eighty two, but as selfish as I am, i'd like
to see Candy experience of Men's Final four. Consideration a
whale of the job taking pictures of the women's Final four.
So I know everybody wanted to get under the filet
of the host show, but I'm gonna mention an FYI

(10:08):
to connect a little bit of what Cody said. The
two Atlanta Thrashers are left in the NHL today. They
are Evander Kaine and Zach goes In. So those are
the two that are left and we'll move on from there.
Tonight's non sports topic of the night TESA will now
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(10:31):
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Speaker 6 (10:35):
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Speaker 1 (10:39):
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(11:02):
we talk about travel because we care because how many
people are going to be traveling to Atlanta to go
out there and see the TVD team to be announced?
Do we think? I don't know. Cliff has other ideas.
But now that we're talking about expansion, the NHL is
selling cities that you better pony up two billion dollars
for a NHL expansion fee because that's exactly what the

(11:26):
going rate is. All right, Well, I guess we're going
to go back to Cody. What do you think about that?
Two billion dollar expansion fee.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Well, I mean didn't was it the lightning? Didn't they
just come out at like one point nine billion dollars?
I think, I know what, they're one of the highest
uh valued teams. I know Toronto and Montreal I think
are higher than that. But I mean for two billion
dollars when what Utah was just for a billion dollars

(12:01):
just recently, and was it Seattle was what seven hundred
and fifty thousand or five hundred million, I can't remember
exactly how much.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Seattle was six point fifty Vegas was five hundred million.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, I knew I was somewhere in the ballpark. Yeah,
But for to go from that to two billion, But
I mean, look where the state of hockey is now.
It's a lot different than when Vegas and Seattle came
into the league. I mean, we're getting a lot more
viewers now in my opinion, That's what I've just noticed.

(12:34):
And everything, especially with Olympics coming back for hockey, I
just think we're the sport's going to grow and grow.
So I think the two billion dollars is about right
for to bring it a team in right now with
everything going on.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Okay, well that's what Richard. Check back when the telling
people up there, two billion dollars gets you in hockey team,
what do you think, Cliff, Well.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I mean you go over the course of how much
it costs. You know, in sixty seven, nineteen sixty seven
it was two million. Okay, Yeah, we just talked about
six fifty and five hundred million for the last two teams.
Just seems like a money grab by the league. I'm like, yeah, sure,
they want to put in a new teams. Hey, I'm

(13:21):
all about hockey. I love the game. I don't know
why more people don't like it. It seems to be,
you know, it's it just seems to be that sport
that is kind of niche. I don't know why. But yeah, yeah,
they're gonna, yeah, should two billion. I thought they would
just go straight up for the one billion. Next day
said forget that, We're just gonna go straight for the

(13:43):
two billion and see what they get. Maybe they get
something from Atlanta because of that, and maybe that'll be
the decision of why they put teams in certain markets.
Oh well, they can afford it, but should they be there?
All right? Well for the long term, should they be there.
Will it make the game better? Will it make sense?

(14:07):
That's my whole concern about it. It's make I want
I want the league to be the the Apex League.
Right now, it's not because I think that's more the
problem of the current management and the commissioner and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Okay, George, two billion bucks, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just
write out a check anytime they're ready.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
But uh, really, uh that's a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
But you know what, it's what the market demands, what
the cities are willing and owners rich owners are willing
to anty up. Plus of course you got a huge
infrastructure behind you and setting up a team. So yeah,
that price continues to go up in all the sports.
You know, Vegas and Seattle the two most recent ones.
They've done a nice job. But yeah, when I saw

(14:58):
that a little bit of sticker shock form, you gotta
be honest with you, I didn't think there was going
to be two billion, But uh yeah, I mean that's
the going right nowadays. Everything's going up.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
But yeah, hockey has become more popular.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
I agree, and I think that the cities are really
anxious and buttoning at the chimp to try to get
into the NHL. So we'll talk more about that, I
know a little bit later. But there's also there's also uh,
you know, men and women with deep pockets and owners
that would want to want to buy this, uh, I
mean by a spot in the NHL. So it'll happen.

(15:32):
It'll happen. Two billion dollars, they'll come up with it,
the ones that really want it.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, I agree, Okay, Jacob, two billion.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
The thing is two billion. That's like a record now
considering as you as Cliff Broughs up.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
It's a bit of a niche. But one of the
biggest deals with it is the reason it's such a niche,
and clip one to know why is well, like, let's
just put it for example, I mean soccer spyally coming
into the United States, but you're considering baseball, fast ball, football,
all the ones we saw in America, they're about sixty
to one hundred years ahead.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
So there's the thing.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
What made hockey big truly was the a miracle on ice.
That's nineteen eighty, that's forty five years, you know what
I mean. In comparison to those things that we say,
you can almost say golf got big with with Nicholas
and Nicholas and Palmer. That's still the sixties, you know

(16:28):
what I'm saying. We're talking nineteen eighty. They're still ketch
up here. And then soccer, I mean that came the
couple three years ago. There's gonna be a lot of ketchup.
Get these right there, people, that's number one thing number two,
And Fox tried to do this in the nineties with
the laser thing, which was ridiculous. They tried to do
it itself. People that they have, a lot of them

(16:51):
don't have the easiest time paying attention to the puck.
They're watching a lot of people skating up with down
ice and and the thing is there is that has
to take a lot of concentration, and a lot of
people don't have that concentration. Now should they change things
to make that? Know, it's just got to be what
it's gotta be, and people kind of just catch up.
But those are the reasons for that, cliff It's but

(17:14):
I mean, by itself, remembered this also two billion. Remember
that's remember what else has gone up in as far
as value WNBA. So if WNBA can go up in
value a little by little, so can the NHL.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
And just things will just keep going as time will
go on.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Great point, Jacob, really really good point, Katy.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
So if any of you are surprised at this or not,
let's look at the NHL is experiencing significant revenue growth,
with its total hockey related revenue from twenty twenty three
to twenty four reaching six point three billion, which is
an eight point six percent increase over the previous season.

(17:59):
And they're saying twenty twenty four to twenty five could
come out around seven billion dollars in just revenue for
the league. Now, out of that revenue, ticket sales is
forty four percent of their revenue. That is much different.
So the NHL distinguishes itself from other major North American

(18:21):
sports leagues like NFLA and MMLB by relying significantly more
on ticket sales, which comprises a forty four percent of
its revenue. In contrast, the NFL primarily depends on national
TV deals, which is sixty six percent of THEIRS, while THEA,
NBA is forty one percent and MLB is twenty six percent.

(18:43):
The other thing, remember, while the NHL's national media deals
are not as large large as other leagues, the current
seven year deals with ESPN and Turner Sports signed in
twenty twenty one are worth two point eight billion in total, So.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
There's a lot.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
I mean, if you think of those numbers and you're
talking one team is worth two billion, but yet they're
projecting revenue of that. That league has grown exponentially as
well well.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Number one, they market their stars. They gonna have come
a long way, you know, the advantage perhaps with us
having no way to do it. So this week versus
a week ago, let me tell you the reason why
we didn't do last week's show on schedules. I had
the opportunity to interview the great Bob Ryan and that
show will be coming out hopefully in the next few
days or a week. Mob was really great and it
was an unbelievable experience with him, and he's a good

(19:33):
friend of mine. So here it's a week. Some latest
news today that we wouldn't have had last Wednesday. Let's
go to the NBA. Carolina Hurricanes owner Tom Condon bought
the Portland Trail Brazers for four billion dollars. That's an
NHL owner, by the way, buy an NBA team for
four billion dollars. That's double what this franchise fee is

(19:57):
that is unbelievable. So do I think too billion dollars
with rational I have no question about it. And the
thing is the NHL will get it. There's no question
about it. The league growing and yeah, well, if you're right,
it is some money grab for the owners of the league.
If you can get four billion dollars with two new franchises,
why not do it. You know they're only going to

(20:18):
put the two franchises in big markets anyways. To gain
the TV market is really what they're gonna do to
begin with. So I know there's a lot of cities
that are being bantered around, but for four billion dollars,
you better get TV markets as well.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Can I just jump on the flow of something wrong
with that? It would be okay if I come up
with a point here. I mentioned it when you had
Neil Smith on. I asked a question about the way
we watch television and you know the way with content
and it's different. They might take the market size of

(20:55):
an account, but should they in the future for the
way we we we we watch things now with streaming
and online.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
This is streaming.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I think if they change, everything else is changing. I
would think that the market size is that it's just different.
Now it's gonna everything business wise from television and all
that is different. I think that should evolve as well
in the way they decide who gets teams as well.

(21:26):
We can't go with the traditional mindset because it's totally
gone out the window.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Well, I know, listen, I know you're an mansion expert Authorityana,
you've got more grass and politicians tell lives. I get that, okay,
because you know the subject awfully well. I understand your
logic behind streaming. I totally get it. I just you know,
we both have events of mass communication, communication degrees in media,

(21:52):
so I completely agree where the streaming thing could really
come into play. And do I use analogies like that.
Of course I will once in a while because I'm
trying to make a point and I'm not here to
offend anybody. I see your logic, but for some reason,
I'm not pretty much on board with it. But you're
entitled to your opinion. That's why we have on the show,
because everybody's entitled to an opinion for sure. So let's

(22:13):
talk about some of the cities that are being considered.
Five NHL cities for expansion and we're going to get
on this a little bit more than I've heard the
most of you. You have Austin, Texas, New Orleans, Atlanta, Houston,
and Indianapolis. I know Milwaukee've been talked about as well.
So where are we going first? To George? Oh, well,

(22:34):
thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
I still think my order would be Houston first, Atlanta second,
and Kansas City third. There are a lot of great cities,
Let's face it, there are a lot of them. Houston
large population, strong sports market. As we know, they've done
a terrific job, but they're in the top ten in
population in the United States, very large media mark at Houston.

(23:02):
I think deserves a team, an NHL team.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Atlanta.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I know there's a lot of people that say no,
they've been there twice, and twice they've moved the teams.
But I still think for many reasons Atlanta would be good.
They're still to me, Atlanta is the gateway to the South.
There are so many people, even from Detroit and other
states that have moved out there. I love it Atlanta,
including my own daughter and son in law, and Jacob

(23:30):
you're down there too, and it's really a bustling city
and a bustling community. That being said, you still got
to look at well, what didn't work last time must
work this time. They'll be in a new arena, and
like you alluded to, it's probably going to be out
in the suburbs. Kansas City my third choice, Scott is
again a great sports culture there with the Chiefs, especially

(23:53):
in the Royals, and you know they've also been successful
with soccer teams as well. City has a very very
good location. They would be within the central division probably
of the league, and they you have some good rivalries
i'm sure with some of the existing teams, especially against
the Saint Louis Blues and probably the Dallas as well.

(24:13):
But yeah, those would be my top three choices. I'm
interested in hearing Scott what everybody else thinks as well.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
On you too. Yeah, I'm going to go over a
lot of the ones that listed as well. You have Atlanta, Cincinnati.
I don't see that one ever happening. Houston bring back
the Houston Euros is a little bit of tradition with
the name there. Kansas City definitely deserves another opportunity because
you had the Kansas City Scouts they were over at
the Camp Arena wasn't really an ideal hockey arena, but
they have the other arena that hosts the Big Twelve tournament,

(24:43):
so I definitely think Kansas City deserves another chance. New
Orleans I don't see it. Omaha, Nebraska, No, I don't
see that one either. Phoenix, well, we know the coyotes
are dead. They're never coming back. Milwaukee I think would
be a sleeper. Canada, I really do. Sacrament I don't
see that one happening. And let's see you have mark them. Ontario.

(25:05):
I don't even know where that's at. Hamilton, Ontario. I
know where that one's at Kitchen or water Boo, Ontario. Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
I don't see at Quebec City. I don't see any
of those. The reason why I'm against Canadian cities right
now is we saw what happen during COVID. What happens
if you have another situation like that, then you have
the difficulties of getting back. I don't think you will.

(25:28):
But again, it's all about the big markets. I really
do believe that if you're going to get two billion
dollars a popular better at least get the population size
with it. Cliff's right, maybe streaming doesn't matter, does it
factor in eff But don't tell me that if you
don't have a bigger population base, the odds of selling
out the building are a whole lot better with more
people than there are with less people. Those are other ones.

(25:50):
I think I'll open it up to anybody else that
wants to talk about this.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Well, yeah, here, here's the big thing. I got a
couple of things on this. Number one taking Orleans out immediately.
They have a hard enough time that the two sports
they do have it's called below sea level. They've had
three major floods in the last seventeen years. There's not
a somebody that's gonna ever want to start a new
a new stadium, knew everything, new everything, new team knew

(26:18):
us to put all that money there and then have
to deal with that. They're not going to want too.
And it's not an area that's going to become huge
with hockey.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
So forget that. Austin's huge. They're getting bigger and bigger.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's a big artist area, but it's also very capitalistic,
good mixture that I think Austin's a big one. Atlanta
the one and only reason, and I'm gonna say this,
they can make it is because it's going to it's
the same thing of what they did with the braves
going to the suburbs.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
They're gonna bring it there. It'll get better. See. The
thing is the battery.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
In Atlanta, like the over end the suburbs is what's
made it pretty big in the first place. They'll make
another battery, especially with the size of that area. With that,
with that mall that there is, there's plenty to build
a build around that. So, I mean, the heck they
it's such a big space that they put little miniature
carnivals in that thing a couple times a year in
the summer, and they have like a ferris wheel and everything.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
So it's like they've got the room.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Then as far as like Cincinnati, No, no, especially with
the problem that they're having right now. Omaha, they have
the weather for the winter. They've got the weather for
the winter. But can it face off against college football?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
No, No, not really.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
And then Kansas City, of course always asleep. In Milwaukee,
always sleep. They're great sports areas. So but I'm just
thinking the only thing I'm thinking about the old Austin
and Atlanta as far as the hot and warmer city
that the only two that will have a chance. Everything
else will be let's just say hypothetical, Omaha, Milwaukee, all
those it's got to be winter, those will get those

(27:53):
will get the shots at the end.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Great stuff, Okay, Cody.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
So, I mean the three I would like to see
is Houston one, Atlanta too, and uh as what George said,
uh Kansas City three. I feel like those would be
the top three for probably all the probably the best
choices for you know, for everything, you know, location and everything.

(28:25):
Houston you'll have the great you'll have the Texas rival,
and then there's also less travel for two teams right there,
and then even Atlanta you got I mean, the South
teams are just are you know, just expanding more and
more every time. I mean, we've had a Florida team
and the Stanley Cup final for the last six years,

(28:46):
so obviously, you know, the South teams. We're saying that
it would never work, but you know, it's working obviously now.
You know in Vegas is I guess considered a non
market team too, and they just recently one. So I mean,
I would like to see Atlanta. I'm looking forward to

(29:06):
because we're actually me and my wife just planned a
trip to go to Atlanta for a couple of days,
so I'm looking forward to that. So I would like
to see Atlanta have another shot, but I think the
first team should be Houston, just so well one we don't.
I don't want another specific expansion team because every time
it just seems to hurt the Ducks more and more

(29:26):
on that one, especially the Vegas winner at the most.
But that, like Houston, I think would be a good one.
They can go into Central and then they could probably
move some teams around for the conference and stuff like that,
you know, like what Detroit went to the Eastern Conference.
I'm pretty sure we can find a way to wiggle
or add a team to the Central or just somehow

(29:49):
make the conferences work and make it even so because
if we're gonna have a Georgia team and h and another,
I guess even if we have one one, I guess so.
But you know, i' just think those are the top
top three for sure. Like I said, the Kansas City Scouts,
I mean, I don't think I was around when they
were around, So sorry if I made everyone feel a

(30:11):
little older right there, but.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
I wasn't around when they were around. What are you
talking about Come on.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
I don't remember at Kansas City Scouts since I've been alive.
Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
It was a baby.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I was a baby when they were around.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
When did they disbanded exactly?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
They moved to Denver.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
They moved to Denver's And when was that the seventy
four Oh god, I.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Wasn't even close. Well, they they started in seventy four,
I think they started.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, they weren't there very long. They were there for
like two years, went to Denver and they went to
Jersey in Jersey, right.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I remember them going to Jersey. Okay, I do remember that.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Muchay, Cody, those Cody. Those were the days that they
had pet dinosaurs. I think Georgie had a taradaptyl.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
You know, it's funny. I think my dad had a
pet velociraptor too. I think he named it like Bluie
or something. I can't, oh stop.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Funny.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
I mean house house was my dad supposed to get
the school in back if you didn't have his pet velociraptor.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I mean, yeah, hello. The one thing you said a
good A couple of good points. Number one, the idea
that Houston I'm going to say Arrows because that's what
they're gonna be named. Anyhow, would give the Dallas Stars
the natural Texas rivalry, and again Kansas City, like George
mentioned before, you give Saint Louis in state rivalry. There. Yep,

(31:40):
that's what you're looking although again I think there'd be
the third one. I would find it hard to think
they're two billion dollars is coming out of Kansas City
with all the things that they're dealing with with the
royals and the chiefs. But I've seen crazy things happen.
But I won't. I have more things to say about this,
so I don't want to give out too much information
or we won't have a show left. But I know

(32:00):
in a moment we're gonna have a station break after.
But everybody's done talking about it.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
So.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Okay, Yeah, I'm all on a board, all aboard with Houston.
I have no problem with Houston getting a getting the team.
There's Wisconsin, I say, we always say Milwaukee. I've never
been to Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I was.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I wanted to know could Madison handle a team. It's
along the same mindset of like Columbus, because they put
the team in Columbus and not Cleveland or Cincinnati. I
know why they did it because it was the central
part and all that. Could that handle a team?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Uh Cleveland mailed before, I mean with the Cleveland parents.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, but I mean they went with Columbus because of
the central playing. They wanted the state of Ohio to
come behind them. It's the capitol and all that. But
I was wondering if Madison could work. And I know
why Wisconsin doesn't get it because Chicago made a deal
many many years ago, and it goes upon that. It
makes no sense. They have every other major league team

(33:08):
and they did. Chicago's like, oh, we were worried about competing.
I'm like your original six team. Your brand is you know, untouchable.
You're not gonna have to worry about losing money or
you might lose some fans in Wisconsin. But they they
play hockey in Wisconsin. They care about Wisconsin Badger hockey. Okay,

(33:31):
it's it's it's like, it doesn't make sense to me
why you wouldn't have a hockey team. And then yeah,
just like Casey or you know, I I Casey, I
think they deserve a chance as well because they've been
screwed over over the you know, other teams like Pittsburgh,
the Islanders, Nashville, they were all playing these games. Oh

(33:53):
we're gonna relocate, and they even went all the way there,
and you know, they entertained them and get I lead
the very least led them in like Indianapolis have a
rivalry kind of like, okay, prove it. I'm not saying
Indianapolis for sure, but you know, I'm okay with that.
And I'm you know what, I know you don't like

(34:16):
Quebec uh Canada, but I want to bring back the
Quebec Nordicks. There's a videotron center. People go there. You know,
it's hockey.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
It's no.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I don't have a problem with it. I have a
a lot of people want to bring back the Quebec Nordiks.
They've they've got everything that they need there. They're going
to sell out. But that's what I And also, I
don't think it'll be three teams. It would be like
four teams, because if you're gonna do it, it needs
to be it needs to be some sort of semblance

(34:46):
of order. Thirty five teams would be weird, thirty six
is nice and even.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, well here's there's another explanation. About Columbus. They're the
only game in town. So that's whereas there's competition in
some of those other markets for their team. Two, So
Columbus being the only game in town, you have Cincinnati
down the road, albeit, and Cleveland's got multiple teams. So
Columbus is the only game in town outside of Ohio state.
And I've actually been in the Nationwide Arena before and

(35:12):
it's a pretty neat stadium with the practice facility connected,
So that might hopefully clarify a couple of things up
Columbus as well, the only game in town. I've been
to a lot of sports markets where they were the
only game in town and leave. It's a lot easier
to market a team when you only have the one
versus one other ones. Okay, so everybody have an opportunity

(35:32):
to get their two cents in, No, they'll have it.
Leave it the candy.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Well, here's the Kansas City Scouts, their professional team from
nineteen seventy four to nineteen seventy six, then relocated to
Denver in nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
There you go, the cracked or quack data decision to
royally quack statistician. I had to throw that in it's okay,
great stuff. Thanks they did the last long Maybe another team.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
So I think for expansion. Could I could see Kansas City?
I could see Indy. I mean, let's face it, that's
where Wayne Gretzky started his professional hockey career. I could
also Could I see Milwaukee?

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (36:15):
Could I see Madison. Madison is really a college town,
and I think they are so beloved to the Wisconsin
Badgers that I don't know that they would support an
NHL team. It's probably an hour to an hour and
a half, depending on where you live in Milwaukee to
get to Madison, so it's not like it's not doable,

(36:38):
but it's almost the same. It's probably too an hour
and a half to two hours to get from Chicago
to Milwaukee as well. Do I think Milwaukee could could
do it? I think they could. It just depends on
how high the ticket prices would be. Another option would
be Atlanta, maybe Baltimore. Baltimore could possibly do it, and

(37:02):
I know it's so close to Washington, but they've already
got MLB and NFL teams in both of them, so
that's another possibility. One last possibility Colorado Springs.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Okay, well interesting, I like throwing names out there. I'll
throw them out there that nobody even thought of. Can
you imagine if they ever put a team up in
North Dakota with the rich rich college hockey tradition. I'm
just saying, this is one of those far fetch nights
where we can get a little creative here, you know,
and zone in on one topic and go nine million directions.
That's why I like to throw these out here every

(37:38):
so often.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Hockey's easy, go ahead, North Dakota by not a chance.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, I'll bout how about those fightings too?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
They changed their name right?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Well, hey, we're having this is a topic we're supposed
to have fun with, So I'll put North Dakota out there.
Nobody has to take that one seriously. Of course, there's
so many people delivering fake newsage. Somebody will be watching
this showspreading the rumor out there. Who knows now, North Dakota.
But it was worth about thirty seconds of ay to
get some people out there in North Dakota to say

(38:16):
a I like the guy in Orange Hope. And that's
about as far as that's going to go, all right,
But I'll tell you what I like the lady that's
going to give us a station, right go ahead.

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Speaker 1 (39:55):
Hex to you, Scott, Well, we know we have a
resident Georgia guy here, So now we're going to get
ready to the particulars of where they're thinking about going.
Obviously the South Forest site site and Georgia is the
one they're considering. The gathering will pay one I will
pay one million rent for the forty nine year lease,

(40:17):
and the county will get two dollars and fifty cents
per ticket sold at the arena events. All right, Jacob,
I'll tell you what you're there. I'd like you just
to simply give us more of an explanation. I don't
need everybody to talk about this is your town, and
we'll then we'll talk about the suburb thing in a
whole as I put other stuff up. So Jacob, the
floor is yours about the gathering. Can you please tell

(40:37):
us more about Southwest Site.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
What is at this point in time.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
It's such a it is such a growing suburb and
it's I mean day I remember watching a documentary about
the Ballground for instance, and how it was and it's
even I mean how it started.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Out the atlant of Falcons way back when.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
It was so small. Now it's even starting to try
to grow. So everything grows. But the thing.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
About it is the mall as where it would be
right now is basically putting in little theaters and like
piano the piano stores. It's like it's dying.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
It is dying, a very very slow and hefty death
and the painful death, and it is wanting to be
able to tear that area down and go put that
up in the first place.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
But like I said, the space, it's a the space what.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
You have where they want it right now, it is
that whole mall slash like the cheesecake factory slash all
the other areas. It's enormous. He's got an enormous areas.
So it is going to be another battery like in Atlanta.
It's going to be all that to try to make
because that's going to keep it with the people in
Atlanta longer, go keep them the longer to be able

(41:50):
to watch the games. And see, here's the thing. Also,
they also have the Gwinnette Gladiators, the Atlanta Gladiators over
in Gwinnette County and it does decently well. It does
these well, it's around that area and stuff like that.
But it's still wouldn't that. So I believe in this area.
As long as they win, as long as they put
more entertainment areas in that type of deal, it's going

(42:12):
to do fine. Just do not try to just put
a hockey team alone. A hockey team alone won't make it.
But that's a lot of areas. It's like a bay
it set, I mean, with an entertainment area and the
whole idea of Atlanta and then maybe the Thrashers, as
you said, Cody, you know, the brill to bring those

(42:33):
things back. It can succeed, but it can't go hockey alone.
But then again, there aren't. There are not a lot
of sports towns anymore that could even go their sport alone.
We have there's so many, so many different things around,
so much entertainment around, so much real estate around. Now
it's like you think of Tampa. We talk about Florida.

(42:56):
You guys, Tampa and Miami and those places don't have
a lot of entertainment around there. They don't get a
lot of people. It's just a different world.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Now, all right. Well, let me also point another fact
here as well, and you've already alluded to it, but
I'll make give more information. And obviously you know that
Atlanta approved the eighteen thousand Seed Arena, which is ready
for an NHL team, and as you alluded to, there's
a three billion dollar entertainment district lined up for it.
We know that the previous history there includes the Atlanta Flames,

(43:25):
which moved to Calgary in nineteen eighty and the Thrashers
in twenty and eleven ended up going to Winnipeg, so
there's a history there as well. I mean, the Atlanta
Flames actually didn't do that bad. They had Dan Bouchard
there and they were a pretty competitive team. I actually
saw the Flames in the Red Wings playing a hockey
team if blil ahead. I think Georgia and I are
the only ones that will remember that ended up scoring

(43:48):
a couple of goals. So the Atlanta Flames are pretty good,
and I think the Calgary Flames do a decent job
with the a on there, but the old throwback logos
what they have there as well. So, yeah, Jacob, you're
so right. You have to have an entertainment district around it.
And they're talking and they've talked about a three billion
dollar entertainment district for the reasons that you said hockey

(44:08):
will not send alone. I'll tell you why, Jacob, point
is so much better. Candy and I are living this
thing right now with the Miami Marlins who play their
games over a low depot park and you've got nothing
around it except Little Havana and that's it. Nobody's going
anywhere near there. And I tell you what, when we
were up there last year and the Marlins took on
the Detroit Tigers to be able to appreciate co America

(44:32):
Park and everything you have around it, between co America Park,
Ford Field and Little Caesars Arena, it was just unbelievable
what you had. So it was like night and day.
So you're right, Jacob, there's no doubt that if they
don't have the entertainment district, it could be a bit
of a problem. So but tell you one thing, though,
Commissioner Gary Betman thinks the third time will be at

(44:54):
Charlit because you tell you one thing, the expressions of
interesting he's getting are unbelievable, and that he ought to know,
he really and I can't imagine that.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
We Scott can I say this part too.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Betman's probably nearing retirement, but he wants to be able
to make this deal. Remember this, Atlanta is almost the
new Hollywood. It is the new music industries. It is
so much of everything. It has has a bunch of
fortune five hundred companies, especially home Depot right, which.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Is enormous, which is a huge and it's a tremendous one.
It's got basically Atlanta, it's almost the South Manhattan. It
really is.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
As far as every the amount of growth is coming in,
it really is. And I'm not going to say, I'm
not going to say Hollywood by itself.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
It's like it's it's its own Hollywood's.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Its own personality, Atlanta's its own personality. But as far
as business and what comes through, it's its own Manhattan.
And there's no question it's building up.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Huge all alone. In fact, they have Buckhead nearby, was
certainly a boatload of there as well. I've been to
Atlanta quite a few times. What American billionaire Don Fagan
has emerges as a strong candidate to get a team there.
And I'll go through another thing and then I'll open
up the floor again for those of you that wonder

(46:16):
the fact that there's no way that they would have
another team back in downtown, that's right. It would fail
a third time easily. But get this, and this is
what we've been talking about all along. The Atlanta Braves
are seventh in attendance, looking at for a thirty six
at thirty six thousan nine hundred and seventy four. That's
what they're getting. So the Braves who played downtown their

(46:39):
whole time until they went to the suburbs in comm
County again thirty six thousand, nine seventy four in the suburbs,
and there was a point where they couldn't even sell
up playoff games. So that tells you exactly why I
think hockey has a shot clip that it could make
it in Atlanta this time if you put it there,
think about this clip thirty six thousand and nine to
seventy four for the Braves and that they're everything and

(47:00):
this year they're struggling. So it's a hot ticket there,
And that goes back to what Jacob is saying that
you put that entertainment district around there, and this team
has a much better chance in eighteen thousand and they're
talking about a forty nine year lease there. So the
other one didn't even make it a little long past
eight a little on the fact that forty nine, I

(47:20):
know we're I'll be forty nine years from now, I'll
be up in Milwaukee, but they won't be if they
have a team, they won't be heaving it there the
place I'll be in my crypt, I'll definitely have a
front row seat up in Nosebleed, and there'll be a
lot less than me up there, bad example South.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Hey, Hey, make.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Sure, no, just make sure you have a TV in
there to watch all the games when you're in your crypt.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, good luck, lot. But anyways, that's a lot, all right, Cliff.
I'll tell you what, now that I've put all this
information out there, does that change your thinking a little
bit about Atlanta and for no other reason what the
Braves have done, and let alone the commitment there. If
it doesn't, it's okay, because I know that you've certainly

(48:07):
done a lot of research on.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
It okay, well, yeah, it's I think they that it
is great. It is Georgia is changing, it is growing.
They're doing all those things, all those other sports awesome, great,
it's not hockey. Hockey is different. Hockey is expensive. Most
people don't play hockey. You have to have that's got

(48:31):
to be strong in there. Look at the They thirty
to forty miles north of that area. That makes it
makes it difficult. What was the big excuse in Arizona. Oh,
it's all the way over here, so we don't want
to go to the games. That makes it tough as well.
Hockey tickets are expensive. They just are. I don't like

(48:53):
that fact either, especially NDHL, but they are. I get
the whole aspect of the other all the that makes it.
It's a great plan to have all those other entertainment
venues there, But will that mean people will come to
watch the game. When Atlanta was here, the arena maxed
out at eighteen thousand on the attendance It never for

(49:17):
yearly attendance, that never went over seventeen and no one
ever showed up. I'm worried that it's just it's gonna
be there. Yet, they've got the forty nine year lease.
Are they just gonna keep them there for forty nine years?
And even if they're not doing well, that's my question.
How are they just gonna keep them there? Kind of

(49:38):
like what they overdid with Arizona. Oh, we're gonna keep
them there. We're gonna keep them there were and keep
them there, and I get there. They were a total
mess in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Well, Cliff, there's where you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
There's a lot of money in this area, a lot
of it.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
There's I mean there's a neighborhood that's near me right now.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
It's like I just saw the It's not even that
huge of a house, like seven hundred and fifty.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
It's like, there's these areas here there's a lot.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Of money, and it's like and there's a lot, And
that's why they want to bring it up in this
first place.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
To do that.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
These are families that can afford hockey. Will they do it?
That's a good question. You're right, will they do it?
But they can definitely afford in this area.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
But Cliff, I don't know how we even bring up
Arizona in this And I'll tell you why. Okay, I
live there and that situation would do from the beginning.
They ended up moving that team to the America West Arena,
which is where the Sun played, and you can only
see one side of the goal, and that was bad.
And I'll tell you George knows the story. He don't
even have to comment on it because he was behind

(50:38):
the scenes when we had to deal with this stuff.
And I said this, and I'll tell you what I
want the two games. If every guy wanted nothing to
do with me because I'm bad publicity for these guys
being outside, or to tell you, this dadium was stunk.
And obviously I never went to another one there again.
The last time Ember went there again was for a
basketball game. But what you have there is they should
have had that team at the Arizona memorials Iliseum where

(51:01):
the Sons used to play initially. And you can charge
a lot more money. To move to Glendale was bad.
I lived in Chandler, Arizona, and they were gonna build
a stadium in Scottsdale. They tore down a mall and
the Coyotes found a way to blow that one. That's
where Bullog was in Scottsdale, which goes back to what
Jacob said about where the money was. The money was

(51:22):
in Scottsdale. The Coyotes should have been there, and they
tore the mall down. So Arizona was bad. I'm not
saying you're anything about towards your example, but there's no
way you compare Arizona to Atlanta. I mean, that's just
like day because at least the fact that they are
they agree where the stadium is going to go. And
the only two reasons that the other ones failed was

(51:43):
they were downtown and we saw that. The fact that
the Braves moved to the suburbs and they're doing well.
I mean, and then and then when you look at
the Detroit situation, you know, the Lions and the Pistons
did well in the suburbs. The only reason why they
ended up going back is they had the sweet tel
to go back to downtown Detroit. I know I've said
a lot here. I don't want to leave a lot

(52:03):
of bystanders out here, But go ahead, Cliff, and then
I'll open it up for any other everybody else.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Well, I do know a lot of times when they
choose when, especially when teams get new arenas, they really
like the fact, oh it's in the downtown area. It's
you know, it's that's always kind of like a plus.
Here it seems like it's not a plus, and I
get it's great. It's I I'm happy for the State
of Georgia.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
I really am.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
I don't have anything against the State of Georgia. It's
great that you're growing. It's great that old thing. But
I just don't think it's failed twice yet. It's got
this other place.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I want.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
I want a team that it's gonna be there, it's
gonna be competitive, people are gonna go. Then the one
of the owners is like Vernon Krauss, he's been been
the big one of the big people there, car dealership thing.
It's great that they're doing all this stuff. I just
don't know if it's gonna last that long. I think
when you put a team there, you should think the

(53:01):
team is going to be there a long team time.
It's gonna grow the sport, it's gonna make it better.
You're not gonna have empty stadiums.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
It took the Panthers a real long time before they
turn things around. They finally got good ownership and management.
They started doing things right. Now we see you know
it took them a real long time. They could have
been really close to going away. By the way, why
what they were doing and the empty seats and all that.
I'm glad they turn it around. They earned their spot.
But yeah, but I just I'm really terrified because because

(53:34):
I think it's a blight on the league. It's a
blight on the game. People consider the game almost as
a joke, and it angers me because they know what
a great game it is. I can't tell you. People
are like, oh, hockey, hockey, like hockey. Oh it's a joke. Oh,
there's a hockey.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
It's it's frustrating to hear that. I want that people
to get why the game is so great and why
the league is so great.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Well, I mean, i'll give you that about the Panthers.
First of all, if Big goes south with them, their
crowds are going to diminish. Again. Mount Florida is a winner.
They don't support. Camp is much different. They'll support no
matter what because you have a predominantly Midwest area. So
i'll give you that right now. The Panthers on a
road bay and I hope for their sake that they
continue the role. But you're right, they started winning and

(54:17):
everybody's showing up. Tell me where they'll be five years
from now? I don't know. I mean, you're talking forty
nine years from now. I don't know what will be
left to me. I know I'll be there with my
little cat, Maverick, Who's going to be there with me
in a little box, you know, him and I gonna
be there. I don't know what to be watching. But
let's get real here, Cliff. I mean Quebec obviously, the northeast. Sure,

(54:41):
I mean everybody would like to see them. I mean
that makes sense. But are they going to be there
forty nine years from now? Either?

Speaker 7 (54:48):
Who's good?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Does anybody know where they're gonna be forty nine years
from now?

Speaker 3 (54:51):
I'll be ninety six and I'll be still be going.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I'll be over one hundred. I don't even think about
what's gonna happen to me five years lotw Loan forty
nine years and I'm math, Yeah, I bet.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I think that you have to think from a long term.
If you're gonna give a team, a city, a team,
you should think that they're gonna stay and they're not
gonna leave after a little while. It should be okay,
this is gonna be a good investment, this is gonna
be good for the league. And you know it's just
and oh, they're not just gonna leave after you know,
ten or fifteen. And the only reason Arizona was there

(55:26):
for twenty five years is because the league didn't want
you know, it's like, no, we're not leaving. That's basically
why they did that.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Well, I mean, you don't know whether or not they
sell it to a different owner to move it to.
I mean, there's so many different factors about leaving, so
I know we could get into a debate. Oh, I
think they should stay there, maybe, Like we tell them
that every state we build these days should be there
forty or fifty years. In Atlanta is one of the
few places that gets it right where they stick around,
or even in Texas where the Rangers second Ballpark is

(55:56):
still being used. There aren't many talents that keep these
places any longer than twenty thirty before they are dumped
their fire and they get rid of them. So yeah,
I'd like to think that every thing's gonna stay forever,
But let's face a reality. If you're a human being,
sometimes you can't stand in your house for fifty years,
you might have to move to another house. I mean,
that does happen too, I with you in your lifetime.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
I don't have a plan with changing reason. It's just
changing markets, that's all markets.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Well, I know we could go on for a right.
I'm sorry everybody but George, and he thoughts about trying
to make sense of what I'm saying, Cliff, make for
sense that I do about his research. I'm just trying
to go from a general perspective about certain things.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
Yeah, yeah, no, I understand what your bud guys are saying.
But I'm gonna go back to my daughter. Okay, she
lives down there, and this is what she told me.
We believe in as long as it has an owner
that actually cares about the team, they have a chance
to make it in Atlanta. I personally don't like how
far the arena will be from East Atlanta, but I'm

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guessing that's where they think the fan base will be.
And then she went on to say that, you know,
it would be at least a forty five minute drive
for her and her husband. You know, they would like
it in downtown. But she understands why, you know, and
so a public transit would not be available to fans
that are in that part of Atlanta. She's indicator, I've

(57:22):
lived here for nearly fifteen years and i have never
stepped foot to the area that they're just talking about
putting the team. But again, she says, the bottom line is,
I'm sure they picked that location for a reason. So
the thing is is, of course there's going to be
some fans that are not happy about it. You know,
Scott and I battle for years. Scott loved the Silver

(57:42):
Dome and I hated it because it was a long
drive for me being on the northeast side of Detroit,
and he lived closer. He was in Oakland County. So yeah,
you're always going to have, you know, these fights or
these wars with how we're going to get these fans here,
or how we're going to transport her.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Where are they going to come from?

Speaker 5 (57:59):
But we all know that the money, like you said, Jacob,
there's more money around there in Atlanta, and a lot
of that money is coming from the suburbs, not from downtown.
That being said, a sparkling new arena will succeed in
this area. This five three to five billion dollar investment
that they want to make, it's all encompassing. It's not

(58:19):
just the hockey team, it's the whole area. Shops, stores,
concert venues, theaters, everything I get.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
All that we go ahead going to.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
Conclude is that it just doesn't please everybody, because, like
I said, in my daughter's case, she lives in a
park that's closer to downtown than out there in the
boonies as we used to call them, the boonies, the suburbs.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Well, you and I sold the territorial thing real easy.
I covered the Pistons and the Lions, and you ended
up covering the Tigers and the Yes, you're right, good point. Yeah,
the Tigers and oh gosh, I'm a flank and the
Red Wings. There you go. And I got there every
now and then. So I'll figure it out and I'll
never forget when the Lions gave me a season pass

(59:03):
over there, I may I Corn take the second one
because I wasn't giving up my first one because Bozo
couldn't go back there enough. Today, I know you get
the pass, I said, Maike di Corn, get his and
make them send him to the hotel to pick us up.
Don't worry. The Lion did.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
So.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
All right, Cody, are you getting all of this. I
know you're patiently learning an awful lot, and hopefully some
of this information you're getting will help some of your
future podcasts, because I know you're on the West coast
patiently listening to all of us go ahead, and on
the East coast. But he wanted you in on the
show because even when you were on with Alan Greenberg,
you were a great sponge and you're learning a lot,
and when I start pairing you up with other people,

(59:40):
you're gonna learn more and more because they're gonna make
you the best hockey analysts that we can. Cody, you
want to try to make sense out.

Speaker 6 (59:45):
Of this, Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going on Google
Maps just to see where Force Forsyth County is and
I don't understand why it has to go all the
way over there and everything. But I know they did
move the Brave Stadium, and I know they've done the
tennis has done a little bit better since they've been there. Yeah,

(01:00:07):
so I don't know why they wouldn't maybe try to
do something closer to that, especially you already have the
location there. I'm like I said, I'm just spitballing here.
I don't know the area very well, you obviously do
a lot more than I do. But I'm just looking
at it and I'm trying to just trying to figure out,
like why I would go there exactly when it's so

(01:00:30):
far from everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Especially Please let me give.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
You the truth. I mean, I'm just being very very honest.
Hockey is a white sport. This is a majority up
here and the majority, and it's like, the reason it
didn't succeed before down there in downtown is we already
know what that answer is. Okay, so that's why it's
going that far to be able to give it that shot.
But let me say this, Cliff, let me say this part.
I wanted to say this to you. Every city, be

(01:00:57):
it small or big, in the United States is starting
to grow, and the ones that are not are dead.
I'm from I went to Lee University of Cleveland, Tennessee.
Went back to go Gas up one time, almost got
lost trying to find the interstate because they've grown so
much in the last ten years. I go back to
my hometown in Quincy, Illinois, it's stagnant, dead. They're talking

(01:01:21):
about putting a hotel with a with a rooftop over
the bridge and they can't afford it. They'll never afford it.
They're stagnant, they're dead. These I'm just using these as examples.
Every we talk about that you want to grow everything,
every area that you can be able to do it
can make something grow, Now, isn't This is a world

(01:01:42):
where everything's grown, even the small towns. They have to
or they die. They're annexing certain areas so they can grow,
so they can get bigger population. You have to now.
And it's like so putting it in any area will
grow it if you do it right, I mean, they
will grow. And it is growing right now. The NHL
is growing huge from the original six. It's even because

(01:02:05):
I'm Saint Louis Blues fan, and it's like I know
darn good and well that they're they're probably gonna have
to move into suburbs for their own thing in the
next few years because the city of Saint Louis is
garbage now, so they're gonna have to get themselves a
new stadium. And because the blue and they and they'll
go those little areas and that thing they'll go, and
they'll follow. Those fans will follow because they love the blues.

(01:02:28):
They love the blues there and it's like, but I'm
just being very honest of what I said earlier. Why
isn't that far up, Cody, It's because of what kind
of crowds and what kind are over there. When it
went downtown, it failed. It failed there, and it will
fail if you try it again. You've got to put
something into an area that will watch hockey, and this

(01:02:50):
is the most the best chance possible.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Well, and Layman's serves you must just saying call it
a scotch and whiskey crawl, because that's what you add
at the Palace and Overnos, right, Jordan, the scotch and
whiskey and down downtown Detroit had the beer crowd is
what you had. I mean we both can appreciate that, right, George.
I mean that that's our neck of the woods, right George.
But Scott, I remember that, Yeah, at the Palace of

(01:03:14):
a gotcha whiskey wine? You had it. It was at
the Palace. You want a beer, you know where to go,
and many people are buying stroke. Now they got everything
down there. But that's a different story. Candy. I know
you're patiently waiting here. You want to think you can
make any sense out of this.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
The one thing I will say is in order to
really make an arena or a town succeed, especially in
the NHL, is putting it not in an area where
your avid fans are gonna go no matter where you
put it. It's the casual fans that want to come

(01:03:50):
in and see a game that they have to be
able to go to get to it. Because if I
look at and I'm gonna and I know this is
not hockey because I know that there's a Florida Panthers here,
but I relate it to Scott had mentioned it earlier.
The Miami Marlins. They put their stadium in Little Havana,

(01:04:11):
which is a poor neighborhood. We drive through it, there's
gates on windows, like, it's not an area that I
would go to by myself. And so for a family
that want that is coming to town, that wants to
see a game, how likely are they to go onto
the Florida Marlins to the game where there's not hardly

(01:04:33):
any parking around it. That's what you got to think
of when you're thinking for an NHL team, because yes,
you're gonna have your season ticket holders whether it no
matter pretty much where it is. Because if you're a
real fan of the sport, you're gonna go. But it's
the casual fans that want to catch a game here
and there. Those are the people that you need to
put the stadium where they're gonna they're willing to go

(01:04:56):
to in order for it to be a success. That's
what I'm gonna say, Scout.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Well, and I'll add to this. Okay, if I wasn't
covering the Marlins, there's no way I'd watch a game there.
No way. So if I'm covering a game, no problem.
I'm sitting up in the press box and I'm talking
to people and getting work done and going on the field,
There's no way I'd buy a ticket to go there.
The only place that would ever go it to see
a ballgame otherwise would have been where they had it

(01:05:20):
in the first place, and it was raped by hard
Rock Stadium where the Dolphins are at, and there's so
much land there they could have built the stadium. Fact
there is nobody wanted the Marlins and they went to
the only place they can go. Now, I'm not saying
there was a success on that site because they had
the Orange Bowl there and they put seventy thousand people
from the Miami Hurricanes and the Miami Dolphins. But that's
a different era and both of those teams were good,

(01:05:44):
and the Marlins will and mustered up four or five
winning seasons and their history, yes, they've had two championships,
one they bought and the other one they wanted the
right way. But I would go down there. I mean,
I don't know what long everybody to go down there anyways,
because I tell you one thing what I decided, and
I took that trip over the summer about international travel.
I am a hook baby. Make your old guy the music,

(01:06:08):
and I'm doing that when it comes down to the
road there when it comes to making my own kind
of music, taking more trips, I may take the summer off.
Going forward, I never know, but you know I would be.
I would go there if I had to pay for
a ticket. Now at that point, if I had to
pay for a ticket, I could go to Fayu or
I go to the Miami Mark LAKEE Stadium in Miami Hurricanes,

(01:06:30):
and they have a pretty good history. Nothing against the
Marlin per se. We've had a pretty good working relationship.
But there's no way but areas everything it really really is,
and that's what Jacob has been alluding to the whole show.
There is m O and E Y there, okay, and
that's why Atlanta will get a third team there. And yes,
I love New York MLB talking because Chopstick song. Yeah,

(01:06:54):
those guys have got it. In fact, I even taking
a step further, I'm glad he popped in here tonight
with Robin Chris, our partners over there. Rob went out
there and went on a cruise over to Bermuda, and
he says he got the idea from the Hibachi thing
to make your own kind of music. And I'm waiting
to hear his rendition of it. See if it's better
than mine. If anybody wants to go dap listen to mine.

(01:07:15):
Maybe one thing things will play it on Wednesday Night.
You're a music, all right. They've heard of it at the
un official version. A couple other things. I want to
get you tonight. Anybody else have any clothing talks about
all of this. I mean, I know, Cliff, I understand
your logic behind Atlanta or not Atlanta, but some of
the other ones we've talked about. Kansas City, if you

(01:07:35):
were going for I think they can should get one now.
I will give you this much. If they were going
to go for and I we're going to add a
Canadian city, then I'll compromise. This way, Quebec City would
be the fourth one. So if you went three and one,
Quebec City would get the nod. Okay, because I do
believe Kansas City deserves another chance for two years and
George and I will tell you that former Red Wing

(01:07:56):
sid Abel was a coach for there. How many people
know about in Europe? Probably nobody? Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
So and you know what that Kansas City thing still
Kansas City Scouts, I mean to me, I'm sorry they
did not give them enough of a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
A chance in the arena was awful also. But I'll
tell you, if you went out on eBay or Amazon,
I'll pitch you could find Kansas City Scout paraphernalia all
day long. They bring it back, they would, There's no
doubt about that. All right.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
A couple of the scott you made the show Biblical tonight.
You brought up Kane and Abel.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't catch that, Evander Kane.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
You brought up Cana and Abel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Oh that was good, Oh that was good. That one
got past mean, he got that one past me. I'll
tell you what. So, so do you want to do
a pundit fund? And you want to wait till.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Next ye, because I got to get myself right for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Let me go over two more quick hockey facts, real
quick here that we'll put you on with, just so
you know. The United States owns a fifty six to
forty three lead, and how many Stanley Cups that they've
won based on American teams as well?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I think Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Well, well, how about the Red Wings pitching in for
eleven two? Yeah? I got eleven of those. And another
interesting fact there for since we brought about the Panthers,
if Matthew could Chuck goes undergo surgery, he can miss
up to upwards of five months in the Mission Olympics, du
Corn and doctor, So Matthew could Chuck could be out

(01:09:41):
a little while if it goes that route. I've never
had that injury. I've had just about any other in
g anybody else want to comment on each of those?
I know, check him. You got to go, but we
appreciate you beat on this show. Let alone the fact
that this one hit you closer to home. And I
knew that if there's any voice on here that would
give us a lot of hid pride information, it was
going to be you. And I'm glad you made it
on this one for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
No, no, I just wanted to do the pundit real fast.
I have a little thing to night.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
I saw a couple of I saw a couple of
different stories. And this is not gonna be on a
sports thing. It's just what drove me in saying, there's
a little thing that I say all the time. Why
does the media be it, movies, television, whatever? Why did
the men always look foolish?

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
And you know all that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
I guess if you see them on the you see
it on the ads, you see it on TV, on
on movies, men look stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Women say the day, okay there, why does it happen?
Then I get Then I get this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
I got two stories today, two different ones that just
sew why they do it? Number one a guy in
a boat that ended up killing colliding into another boat
that killed a mom and a daughter, had thirty nine
different than the types of alcohol and was drunk on
almost all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
That's the non funny one.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
The second one a woman talking about the boyfriend that
she just moved out of because she he's because she
found out that he did not wipe during the after
going to the bathroom and said that he felt it
was gay if he wiped it. But which is nasty.

(01:11:21):
And that's the funny part of it. But this is
the thing. Men, The reason may make it foolish is
because you're immature, you're stupid, you're low iq, you're every
bit of these things. You make these you make put
this all on yourself every single time. This is in

(01:11:44):
the fifties. The men are not running families anymore, and
you're putting up with this and by itself, you're putting
up with these type of things because you're a child.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Here's the deal.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
I'm not saying men have to run it all now,
it's a different world. They need help from their wives.
They do, I mean the way. Money is everything else
they need now. But you need to be a team now.
So many women always say they want a man's man,
and they don't want it just to other than like
some amish somewhere. They don't want to just are the

(01:12:17):
man to run the whole deal. They want a teammate.
And when you see something like this. You see these teams,
you wonder why you look foolish on television. These stories
are the reason everybody gets a laugh and then they
get sad when you hear about the voter. You're immature. Men,
You're ridiculous, and it embarrasses me as a man. It's

(01:12:41):
why you don't see man and women but person, but
partner but them. That's why because you haven't earned it.
You haven't earned these classifications anymore him. All of these
other than the pronoun they brain you. This is why

(01:13:02):
we have foolishness is because you're putting it on yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Great stuff, and I gotta get going. You guys, take care, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
All right, thanks, We see next Wednesday night, Jacob, You
bet all right? All right. So let's go back to
that real quick stat that I brought up about the
United States and Canada. But with the Stanley Cup comparison,
you take away those eleven Stanley Cup by the Red
Wings and you have forty five to forty three. Canada's
still trails. All right, there you go, and we will

(01:13:32):
go too.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
You don't forget we've only got two Canadian teams in
the original six and four American teams, right right, So
I think a little bit uh slanting uh for America
is a result of having the more more teams in
the league.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Also, well that's true, but then if you want to
talk over most of Canada Stanley cupp are coming from,
I need to go this part the Montreal Canadians on
just about most of them anyhow. Yeah, yeah, So I
mean sit here and break that stat down all day long, Cody,
anything you want to add to that stat.

Speaker 6 (01:14:04):
Well, I just know back in the day, it building
the teams was a lot different than it is now.
Last Back then, it was built on it like where
your hometown was, so the closer you were to that
team is that's where you went. So of course the
Canadian teams are going to have probably better players because
the Canadian Canadians just have been the better hockey players

(01:14:28):
as of lately and back then than USA did because
it was a lot bigger in Canada than it was
in USA. So that's probably why Canada has as many
Stanley Cups between those, you know, between them, because that's
how it was back then. But I know now it's
a lot differently, and that's why USA has been winning
nothing about Stanley Cups since I've been born pretty much.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Well. We knew we had a young end here, and
we appreciate the new wave of information you have. And
I'm gonna tell you something, your way ahead of a
lot of people in the first place. You've done a
really good job. You're one of the few young guys
I've kept there because you've been able to blend in
with every guest that I had. Cliff, I'm gonna tell
you one thing. Cody speak here is one of my
up and comers in this on this network, he really is.

(01:15:10):
I put him on with my Santos the hold Zone.
We had him Allen Greenberg, and I've been hang around
with George kron and I. So Cody knows the stuff
and every opportunity that we get to provide him with
something that he can learn, we do. Cliff, I know again,
this is a subject that I was really glad to
bring you on. Are there any last thoughts about expansion

(01:15:31):
that you want to add, because I know we've thrown
a lot of cities out there, We've made a case
for lots of major sittings. But this you have the
floor for a minute or two to put a bow
on it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
All right, Just yeah, I've pretty much hit all my
my my points that I care about the league, care
about the game. I wanted to be what I feel
it should be. You know, it's to rival at least
the NFL and Major League Baseball and all that. And

(01:16:04):
because I get it, I know a lot of people
in this room, in our inn, this room right now
get it, but a lot of people outside don't. It's
so I want the league to look and be as
successful as possible, and I think that can only happen
with finding the right markets, finding the right places for

(01:16:29):
it to work. I don't want it to go back
to Arizona. We didn't really talk.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
About that, but well too bad?

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Are you sure about that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
With Betman?

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Beman loves to.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Yeah, but you know what, I'll tell you why I
am sure about it. Number One, he owned that team
for a long time. Number two, they moved it to Utah,
And number three, they don't have a stadium built, the
running out of time. And then you will add these
two markets to it. Yeah. I he did everything he
could to keep it in Arizona, and it wasn't until
they ended up going to a four or five thousand

(01:17:01):
cined arena. Said I can't handle that. They're not even
paying Odelo and they moved them to Utah. So yeah, Cliff,
I'll tell you what, my friend, you're the most laid back,
easy going person. You're of all the people here alone me,
you're the least likely one to have a heart attack,
and I'm probably the most likely one to. But to worry, Cliff, Okay,
they're not going back to Arizona. They don't have a

(01:17:23):
place to play, and they never had a place to play.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
He doesn't seem to care. It's the same argument with
the TV market. Yeah, but they didn't care about it
because they cared more about like ASU golf. Mma.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
No, no, no, Cliff, you got it wrong. They never
had the location of the stadium right. If they put
it in stats State, it would have been different. You
can't put it in Glendale. You can't put it. You
can't put it in a stadium that to me, well,
it's about the most disgusting thing that to call a
stadium for hockey. You should have put it in an
old fairground stadium where you had a puncher chance. I

(01:17:59):
have it atmosphere, So no Arizona. I remember many years
ago watching The Night of the Living dead as a movie.
But this is not one of the Night of Living Dead.
Arizona's not coming back. Well, I'll tell you one thing.
I'll give you a homework assignment the next time I
bring you on the show. Okay, okay about Arizona and
everybody should think about this in logic. Okay, here's your

(01:18:20):
homework assignment when I bring it back, watch the Lion King. Okay,
is what I want you to do, Cliff, because Acuna
Matata no worries. They're not going back to Arizona. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Oh god, Okay, So why did they Why did they
race the history when when they went to Utah, Oh,
we're gonna keep We're gonna keep the history, We're gonna
keep the hit. We're gonna keep the history here like
they did with Cleveland, which one I thought was ridiculous.
I'm like, what are you preserving?

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
It was like, this isn't the Cleveland Browns. There was
a reason they kept them there, kept that history there.
Why you're doing this year?

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
But one of the players found his jersey that was
retired up during the garbage and he saw it and
he took it all. Did you know that I didn't
about yo, now you do. He took his retired jersey
or whatever they stuck up in the banner over at
Mullendarina or whatever you call, and he took it home.
They threw it away. There's no history there. The only

(01:19:14):
history is you have who knows those trades? And that's
the only Spanish I know one, two, three. You have sons,
you have diamondbacks, and you have who's the other team, Arnold,
that's all you have. Coyotes are and Ernie Harwell said saying, oh, Gode, right, Ernie,

(01:19:35):
I mean George, I'm giving you all the reference. Now
there's another night of sleep gone. I'll tell you I
lose lights to sleep really quick. They're they're like my
Knights of Sleep are like Mercedes, fans, Rolls, Roys and catalyze.
They're a luxury because they don't have much. So don't worry, Cliff.
You can have every darn graph you want out there,
and don't worry. Just don't put Arizona on it. I

(01:19:56):
hope I gave you a history lesson about the Grand
Canyon State. Okay, and there and in the Valley of
the Sun. There won't be any more valleys when it
comes to hockey. It is dead. The bet all you
have down there, I think is the Tucson Roadrunners. I
don't even know if there's that minor league team over
and I don't worry even at w A h and

(01:20:17):
make it with the Meeting's Roadrunners. You have all that business.
Don't worry anything else you want to add, No, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Just had a great time tonight and God blessed.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Right, So Cliff with that, So why don't let everybody
know how they can get a hold of you? Now,
what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
I'm just on Facebook. I don't do any podcasts or
anything like that. Yeah, I'm on Facebook and you might
stump around me and work a thousands.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Well, you're a good friend of mine. Hey, it's a
good friend of mine. He appears on our shows and
the chat room. And you know what, Cliff, I look
forward to the day I promised I bring it back
another time. I will. You never know through a messenger
when I'm gonna bring it back again. But tonight was
a good opportunity during the summer to bring out this
hot topic that Gary Betman thinks that he does believe
that Atlanta could be if the third time is the

(01:21:09):
term and that's why they're looking forward to it, which
is why we came up with the title. Will Atlanta
get a third NHL team? I'm going to say myself yes,
and I'll ask everybody around one more time with in
respect to the top Cody, do you think they we'll
get a thirteen? Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
After Houston?

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Yes? Okay, well, but they'll get it. To you, They'll
get a third chance, right.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
As long as it's the Thrashers.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Yes, I don't know, but the Thrasher. But Atlanta will
get a third day. I got so much I'm gonna
get out of you, all right, Katie.

Speaker 7 (01:21:43):
Yes, I think eventually will I think there's some other
cities ahead of them, but eventually, yes, I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Think, George, Yes, they will get one.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
And I'm in agreement with Cody that Houston and Atlanta
are the best choices. But yes, answer your question.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Up to me. I'd like to see the Flames come back.
But there's a certain thing about those jerseys today with
the big old A with the Flames on there. All right, well,
all right, well, Cliff, it was his information, George, Cody,
go ahead, and then Candy will take us home for
the final station break.

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
You can follow my writings on the South Florida Tribune
and the website that's so nicely designed by Candy and Scott.
My book is called Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the Air
and it does a lot of hockey talking.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
That one.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
You'll be happy to know, Cliff.

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
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There's a link to that book to the purchase site
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Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
On all Right, Cody here next all Right.

Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
You can find my dad and I at Roley Quack
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finished up our own special episodes where we had some
guests on. We made an all time Ducks team and
an all time Kings team, and I just I'm gonna
put it in the chat GTP and have it play
against each other and I'll have the results this Saturday

(01:23:32):
when we go live. We go live every Saturday at
ten am Pacific Standard time, and yeah, come in and
stay tuned for the results. And the one that I
recently just had a lot of fun with that the
idea I came up with on my own was we
did a what if the NHL did a March Madness
style tournament, single elimination, thirty two teams. Yeah, I had

(01:23:55):
a lot of fun with that. I did it through
the NHL twenty five video game, and let's just say
it was a wild outcome. That's what I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
All Gonna says he doesn't know. Sometimes we keep him
a little bit lost when it comes to history about
certain things. When it comes to what he just said,
we're lost. That's how that generation thing comes into play.
Great stuff, And I'll tell you one thing, I'm glad
that we bring him on because he's an awful lot
of fun and he's one of my favorite analysts, especially
when it comes to the Ford played on a frozen Pond.

(01:24:24):
He's a video guy where the we're the historical people,
but somehow, some way, Coey think is where it's at
when it comes to Hockey Lit alone with Mitch Antos
and Alan Greenberg, George I. Corn and I and whoever
else we bring along, So Candy take us home for
the final station. Please.

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