October 25, 2024 • 21 mins
It isssssss Sportsfeld Storytime. In Part 2 of our look back at Game 6 of the 1993 World Series, we try to remember the 1993 ALCS, which was apparently a series that was played. We also talk about just absolutely hating the Philadelphia Phillies, especially Curt Schilling. We still hate Curt Schilling. And we discuss Game 4 of the 1993 World Series, one of the craziest baseball games of all-time that surely would kill us if we had to experience it as adults.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Shake the town said nothing heat share a commination ever
stain the dream of the for the world service senatives
(00:37):
with anything can post with made a face, the cook,
the sad away to the dream of mid be a
couple on the two day Shatter.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
This is Toronto, Ontario. It's a city that takes in
sports quite seriously. And if you're lucky enough to live
here by the shores of Lake Ontario, you're enjoying that
elusive dream season and Toronto fans are confident that the
best has yet to come. The beloved Maple Leaves are
off to a five and zero start the new NHL season,
and with a new NBA franchise on its way, won't
(01:38):
be long before Shack brings down the house.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Sports.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It is Sports Fellows story time. We are going back
this week to start off the new year. We are
going back to where it all began for us as
sports fans. Really, we are going back to nineteen ninety
three the defending World Series champion Toronto Blue Jays Boil Boy.
They are doing it again and we as children, Me
as a seven year old, and Jake is even younger
(02:27):
than that. I want to say, a five year old, five.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Year old yes, not quite five, Oh yeah, just five.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Just five. Having no idea that this is what sports
could be like, or this is anything like this, anything
but this, This was all that we knew. The Blue
Days were amazing. Buddhas had just rolled through the American
League to the tune of a ninety five and sixty
seven record. We talked about that in episode one. Ricky
(02:55):
Henderson added halfway through the year, Paul Mollator the big
off season acquisition John Olroud maybe one of the best
seasons we'll ever see as a member of this team.
Whamco in full of fact, White, Alamar Carter and Oli Rude,
Tony Fernandez brought in in the second half of the year,
(03:15):
come back, Ed Sprague, the hot young player, Wan Guzman,
your ace. It had everything you would possibly need as
a child. This is what I imagine kids who were
like seven to eight years old, This is how they'll
remember the twenty nineteen Raptors.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I feel, yeah, I think that's a great comparison actually,
especially because it was only two years. Like I was thinking,
when you were doing entry, you're gonna compare it to
like this is what kids grew up in, like the
two thousands in Boston was like, but they won too much,
so they got shitty. You got two good years. I
know the Jays were good for a long time before this,
but got two wins and then you just get to
(03:53):
enjoy it. And yeah, so I think you're correct.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
And the Jays were good before this. But I don't
remember that at all too. I don't remember like anyone.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Guy, I was fucking three years old. I know that
I was watching, yeah, because I was a fan from
a baseball like immediately. Yeah, but I don't remember it.
My only memory pre ninety three is in the ninety
two ALCS against Oakland, I needed my parents to leave.
(04:23):
I was at game four, I want to say Game three,
and we had to leave our seats because the fireworks
up the home run scared me. Boy, because I was
afraid of fucking everything as a child.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
If that ain't parenthood, man, right.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I would never let my child leave that game if
I had a kid. Now, like you're staying, deal with it.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Literally you can do is say, yeah, I guess we're
gonna leave.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
See Alcs. Little bastard.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Boy. Difficult, that's difficult. It's so funny. We talked about
this last week, about how Obviously we were children with little,
tiny brains that are not fully developed, and we won't have,
you know, object permanence or the ability to remember large
swaths of time. Okay, we had object.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
How old do you think don't you get objects which
you object?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I don't know. I remember you. I remember object permanence
being a big thing, sticking point for you. For babies.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Oh yeah's why, that's why I think babies are used. Yes,
but like a five year old has it?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Okay, okay, not object permanence. Attack from all sides here.
But we talked about how, you know, despite how incredible
they were, we don't really remember the regular season. Obviously
part of that is that we weren't staying up until
ten thirty every night watching Blue Jays play regular season games.
But to further that point is, you know, the nineteen
(05:47):
ninety two ALCS that you just mentioned against Oakland has
so many amazing moments, and it's so crystallized as the
Jays taking this leap and finally becoming this great team,
and the Alamar home run and all these great moments.
I don't remember anything about the ninety three ALCS. If
you had asked me before we did this who they
(06:07):
even played, I would not have immediately known it was
Yoga White Sox.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I feel like that's partially because there was As far
as I know, I could be wrong, but I feel
like ninety two has like the Alamar home runoff Acres,
which is like an iconic Blue Jays moment. That's like
the that's like the Kawhi shot for the J's a
in a way. Yeah, And I feel like the ninety
(06:33):
three ALCS they just kind of won, Yeah, like they won.
They won in six games, and it wasn't anything like
particularly crazy. None of the games were particularly close. Every
game was decided by at least two runs. So I
feel like there wasn't that like real like, there weren't
the moments to make them stand out like we remember
(06:56):
other games from our youth.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
And these were very clearly the top two teams in
the American League this year. You said, only none of
the games were particularly close, only three save situations. Over
the course of the six games. The Blue Jays win
four games. To Dave Stewart, your ALCS MVP. They were
taking on Frank Thomas, of course, and he was the
(07:21):
MVP of the American League this year. He had he's
fucking unbelievable, but he, you know, less war than than
our boy John Oldrue. But regardless that also I had
Bo Jackson. Some guys remember that, Jack McDowell, Bo Jackson,
Tim Rains, Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura, Joey Cora, Ellis Burks,
Tim Belcher, Ozzygian, Lance Johnson, Jack mccaskell, Dan Pascal has
(07:46):
some great names to remember there. But the Blue Jays,
of course, they do win it in six games. We'll
just sort of breeze over right here. The seven to
three in the first game, no recollection, Like, honest to god,
when I was a kid, it just felt like they
were just in the World Series and that was it.
There was no un difficulty. One Guzman got the call
in Game one, eight walks, three strikeouts, only you have
(08:07):
two runs and six innings. Jack McDowell got lit up
a little bit, seven runs, thirteen hits. The Blue Jays
offense was fucking amazing. What do you really want? Paul
Molitor went deep, as he would do throughout the course
of the off season. The Jays also took Game two
three to one. That is why, partially the reason why
Dave Stewart wins your ALCS MVP goes six, gives up one.
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Al Lighter comes on in relief, and then Dwayne Wardo
gets the save. This one a lot less high scoring,
but Alamar drives in a run, and then Fernandez and
Borders drive in runs as well. Just some singles, not really,
only two doubles in the entire game. Really, no extra
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race hits the entire way, a real quiet one, a
real pitcher's duel, as they would say that one. The
White Sox would get it back. In Game three. They
win that one six to one. Pat Hankin gets lit
up a little bit, only last three innings, give up
six runs, and Wilson Alvarez throws a complete game. On
the other side, the Jays, oh, they must have seven
hits still because they are an absolute killing machine. But
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they had never quite put it together, and they don't
nothing for extra base, no power. Rickey Henderson double is
the only extra base hit for the J's in that game.
A lot of eighties baseball, a lot of singles and
things of that nature. White sawce tie it up and
the next one, seven to four is the win. This
time it is Todd Stottlemeyer getting his tits absolutely lit
(09:35):
five runs and six innings. Lance Johnson hits a home run,
Devo hit a triple on in that game, and Alamar
had two doubles. The Jays offense continuing to rack up hits.
They had nine hits in that game, but not scoring runs.
They would break out in the next one with runs
in the first, second, third, fourth, and seventh innings. At
five three win, fourteen hits in this one, everybody getting
(09:59):
in on the hit parade, Ed Sprague driving into the
big takeaway for me so far looking back at all
these things, is just not a lot of home runs.
Guys just don't hit home runs.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Really, Yeah, wild a lot of especially on this team,
like every a lot of home runs with the White Sox. Yeah,
but like like game one, you have, I guess smaller
hit one in game one, nothing in game two, nothing
in Game three, two from the White soxing Game four,
two from White Sox in Game five, one each in
game six, Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Alamar gets on base five times in this game because
he is just that good at baseball. Jays take the
series in the next one six three. The win another
win for Dave Stewart. He goes seven, gives up two
(10:51):
runs and finally a home run von White in the
ninth inning to seal it as they come back. By
the way, it was not come back, but they see it.
It was three to two going into the ninth and
j score three in the ninth inning to bust it
open and punch their ticket to the World Series.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Oh two, hitch hid in the air to right field,
partner has room and the Blue Jays are going back
to the World Series.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And who awaits them in the World Series? But the
gas House Gang the Philadelphia Phillies. You mentioned the Kawhi
shot so beautiful that a lot of the worst moments
in Philadelphia sports history have to do with the Toronto teams.
That makes me happy.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I feel like this Ninthie Phillies team was probably the
first team I ever hated outside of the ones like
you grow up supposed it like the Canadians, obvious immediately
because that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, you're a
Toronto fan. But the first like watching them makes me
hate them team because I was a little too young
(12:10):
for the Braves and I kind of liked the Braves
as a kid in the nineties, like I was, I
was a Braves fan. Ish for a minute, and like
the Leafs were just kind of the Leafs and like
hate the Habs, but like their big loss was to
the Kings, and it's like, well it's Wayne Gretzky's you
can't hate the Kings. Raptors didn't exist yet. Wasn't a
(12:30):
soccer fan yet, so Argos I didn't care. So I
feel like I hated this Phillies team. Hated them. Got
a piece of shit on this team.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I mean Kurt Schilling, you know what I mean. You
needn't go much further than kirtch.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
And Kurt Schilling and Lenny Dykstra and John and John
Kruck and Mitch Williams ugh, oh.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Dirt Baggs, every single one of them. The Blue Jays
win this first game eight five, if I might again,
with a home run John already it's a home run.
Kurt Shillink gets lit up seven runs and six and
a third. Fuck you, Kurt shillingk fuck you if you're listening,
goose Wine, not a lot better, but all Leider came
in and closed the door. We just go up one
(13:14):
nothing before even dig into this. A lot of runs
in this series, Holy cow, A lot of runs in
this series.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I believe it was the I could be wrong, but
I think it was the most runs until Astro's Dodgers
a couple years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I believe you were right, and that was a crazy
World series as well. ALCS MVP Dave Stewart went in
Game two. They lose that game six to four. Terry
Mullholland gets the win. Paul Malater two for three. Joe
Carter hit a home run. When I was a kid,
it felt like Joe Carter hit a home run every
single day.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But yeah, I remember when sort of our guess around
the time we started working at the score, when like
maybe a little before that, like when baseball analytics really
became a thing, and like analytics Twitter became a thing, right,
the like Joe Carter was actually bad argument that started
was both infuriating to me but also very confusing, because like,
(14:06):
when I was a kid, Joe Carter was the best
athlete on the planet. Yeah, just like was a superhuman
who just crushed baseballs forever.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
So true. I looking back at it, I was like,
you mean he didn't hit like forty five home runs.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I was like, yeah, no, no, learning that Joe Carter
was like a good player, and not a great one.
Was genuinely shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
He hit thirty three, thirty four, thirty five, but still
I would have thought he was like MVP level and
he was evidently nowhere ever close to that game. Three
Blue Jays pistol whip ten three right out of the gate.
How fucking amazing is Paul Molder triple and a home run.
Paul moder went twenty twenty in this year. He stole
twenty bags at age thirty seven, No. Thirty six. He
(14:52):
told twenty bases and hit twenty home runs. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That is that's that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Two twenty two and finished up for MVP. You gotta
love it. Yeah, some guy named Danny Jackson's got the
breakspeat off of him. Weill. Pat Hankin went six a
lot of like six inning early polls. He got a
Sado Gaston guy who managed a bullpen.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Also like just some crazy lineup management for this one
that would just get shredded on Twitter if it existed,
because it's the National League. You don't have the DH.
He moved Joe Pseudo Gaston, moved Joe Carter to first base,
which would keep John Oliarud out of the lineup. Oh, sorry,
that was what he did in ninety two. In ninety three,
(15:36):
Paul Mollitor had to be in the lineup. Obviously, Paul
Maler had to be in the lineup.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
He put Paul Molder at first base, removing John Oliarud
after the season he had in nineteen ninety three, which like,
you gotta have Malitor in no question. I get that's
a tough spot because Oliroud was just a first baseman.
But for like but man joonal Lord who hit three
(16:02):
sixty three that year. It's crazy not in the lineup.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Maybe Malwater goes three for three for four and knocks
in three runs and a home run in the triple
the next game. This is if we weren't doing the obvious,
the touch them all Joe the ninety three game four.
This is one of the craziest games in the history
of baseball.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
One ball in two strun.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
One two picks, little Looper, long run for.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Tykestra and right center can't get it. Bitters around with
the time run Henner.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Send it up play what the go ahead run? Fifteen
fourteen Toronto.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
We get asked in mail bags relatively often, Like what
do you what sporting event do you wish you could
have experienced as like as an adult, And like, I
think about what the tension that watching the Blue Jays
in the playoffs in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen felt
like in my life as an adult. I cannot imagine
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being up to one in the literal World Series and
having to sit through this fucking game.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah. I think that's a great point, Jake Is. I
think our instinctive course is to go through the like
the record highs and the amazing single moments. But this
game ends up fifteen fourteen. The Blue Jays score six
in the eighth. I mean, you might never see anything
like this again if you're a Blue Jays fan, Like
they had some crazy games in twenty twenty that were
(17:56):
like low stakes, but Game four of the World Series, like,
and they score three in the first and the Phillies
answer with four, and Phillies then score two more to
make it six three. The Jays then score four to
make it seven to six, and then Philly scores again
to make it seven to seven. Then Philly scores five
in the fifth, one in the sixth one, and the
(18:16):
seventh today, score two in the sixth and six in
the eighth inning. Just an unbelievable display. And they do
it all without hitting a home run, by the way,
if you can believe that.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I feel like I don't know if this is a
fair comparison because different situations, But I remember in the
twenty nineteen Raptors Series, Game four of the finals was
actually kind of the most fun game because like they are,
they're up to one and they like wax them. They
smoke the Warriors in Game four, and so it's kind
(18:45):
of like the celebration game. And it was a weekend
night and it was like the celebration game of like,
holy shit, like they actually might do this kind of thing.
But like, I can only imagine how that would that
eighth inning being in a bar in Toronto as they
put up six to win fifteen fourteen and go up
three to one in the World Series. That would like
(19:07):
out of how you recover from that as a human.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Being crazy, it would be you'd be unconscious, like you
would use and there's a game the next day, you'd
be unconscious, like the holy The scheme took four hours
and fourteen minutes to complete, a nine to complete a
nine and in game truly ridiculous that eighth inning is
Joe Carter singles Olard walks Molitor with a double that
(19:30):
scores Carter. Fernandez singles that scores Olrude, Pat Borders walks,
by the way Mitch Williams is in this game at
this point that Borders walks at Sprague strikes outs and
then as two out, Rickey Henderson drives into with a single.
Then Devo triples, scoring two to make it fifteen fourteen,
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just like you'll never see it again in your whole life.
You'll never see it again. And how Van Devon White,
Oh my god, he's everywhere in this fucking box scores
always as you said. The very next night, Game five
a nail bier, the exact opposite of the previous night.
It's a two to nothing Phillies win each team with
five hits. A real gem, I hate to say. At
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Kirks Shilling throws a nine inning, five hit complete game shoutout,
and then does not get into the Hall of Fame
because fuck you Krits Shilling. If you're listening to this,
fuck you Kris Chilly. That sets the stage, Jake, for
where we will pick up next week, which is Game six,
October twenty third, nineteen ninety three, one week before my
(20:33):
eighth birthday. The Toronto Blue Jays at home, back in
the SkyDome after three games in Philly, taking two of
three on the road. Back home at the SkyDome. The
starting pitching matchup is Terry Mullholland against smoke mister Dave Stewart.
Anything could happen, the craziest, craziest thing you may ever see.
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It's nineteen eighty three World Series Game six. Next time
on Sportspel. Story that
Shake the town said nothing heat share a commination ever
stain the dream of the for the world service senatives
(00:37):
with anything can post with made a face, the cook,
the sad away to the dream of mid be a
couple on the two day Shatter.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
This is Toronto, Ontario. It's a city that takes in
sports quite seriously. And if you're lucky enough to live
here by the shores of Lake Ontario, you're enjoying that
elusive dream season and Toronto fans are confident that the
best has yet to come. The beloved Maple Leaves are
off to a five and zero start the new NHL season,
and with a new NBA franchise on its way, won't
(01:38):
be long before Shack brings down the house.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Sports.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It is Sports Fellows story time. We are going back
this week to start off the new year. We are
going back to where it all began for us as
sports fans. Really, we are going back to nineteen ninety
three the defending World Series champion Toronto Blue Jays Boil Boy.
They are doing it again and we as children, Me
as a seven year old, and Jake is even younger
(02:27):
than that. I want to say, a five year old, five.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Year old yes, not quite five, Oh yeah, just five.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Just five. Having no idea that this is what sports
could be like, or this is anything like this, anything
but this, This was all that we knew. The Blue
Days were amazing. Buddhas had just rolled through the American
League to the tune of a ninety five and sixty
seven record. We talked about that in episode one. Ricky
(02:55):
Henderson added halfway through the year, Paul Mollator the big
off season acquisition John Olroud maybe one of the best
seasons we'll ever see as a member of this team.
Whamco in full of fact, White, Alamar Carter and Oli Rude,
Tony Fernandez brought in in the second half of the year,
(03:15):
come back, Ed Sprague, the hot young player, Wan Guzman,
your ace. It had everything you would possibly need as
a child. This is what I imagine kids who were
like seven to eight years old, This is how they'll
remember the twenty nineteen Raptors.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I feel, yeah, I think that's a great comparison actually,
especially because it was only two years. Like I was thinking,
when you were doing entry, you're gonna compare it to
like this is what kids grew up in, like the
two thousands in Boston was like, but they won too much,
so they got shitty. You got two good years. I
know the Jays were good for a long time before this,
but got two wins and then you just get to
(03:53):
enjoy it. And yeah, so I think you're correct.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
And the Jays were good before this. But I don't
remember that at all too. I don't remember like anyone.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Guy, I was fucking three years old. I know that
I was watching, yeah, because I was a fan from
a baseball like immediately. Yeah, but I don't remember it.
My only memory pre ninety three is in the ninety
two ALCS against Oakland, I needed my parents to leave.
(04:23):
I was at game four, I want to say Game three,
and we had to leave our seats because the fireworks
up the home run scared me. Boy, because I was
afraid of fucking everything as a child.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
If that ain't parenthood, man, right.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I would never let my child leave that game if
I had a kid. Now, like you're staying, deal with it.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Literally you can do is say, yeah, I guess we're
gonna leave.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
See Alcs. Little bastard.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Boy. Difficult, that's difficult. It's so funny. We talked about
this last week, about how Obviously we were children with little,
tiny brains that are not fully developed, and we won't have,
you know, object permanence or the ability to remember large
swaths of time. Okay, we had object.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
How old do you think don't you get objects which
you object?
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I don't know. I remember you. I remember object permanence
being a big thing, sticking point for you. For babies.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Oh yeah's why, that's why I think babies are used. Yes,
but like a five year old has it?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Okay, okay, not object permanence. Attack from all sides here.
But we talked about how, you know, despite how incredible
they were, we don't really remember the regular season. Obviously
part of that is that we weren't staying up until
ten thirty every night watching Blue Jays play regular season games.
But to further that point is, you know, the nineteen
(05:47):
ninety two ALCS that you just mentioned against Oakland has
so many amazing moments, and it's so crystallized as the
Jays taking this leap and finally becoming this great team,
and the Alamar home run and all these great moments.
I don't remember anything about the ninety three ALCS. If
you had asked me before we did this who they
(06:07):
even played, I would not have immediately known it was
Yoga White Sox.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I feel like that's partially because there was As far
as I know, I could be wrong, but I feel
like ninety two has like the Alamar home runoff Acres,
which is like an iconic Blue Jays moment. That's like
the that's like the Kawhi shot for the J's a
in a way. Yeah, And I feel like the ninety
(06:33):
three ALCS they just kind of won, Yeah, like they won.
They won in six games, and it wasn't anything like
particularly crazy. None of the games were particularly close. Every
game was decided by at least two runs. So I
feel like there wasn't that like real like, there weren't
the moments to make them stand out like we remember
(06:56):
other games from our youth.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
And these were very clearly the top two teams in
the American League this year. You said, only none of
the games were particularly close, only three save situations. Over
the course of the six games. The Blue Jays win
four games. To Dave Stewart, your ALCS MVP. They were
taking on Frank Thomas, of course, and he was the
(07:21):
MVP of the American League this year. He had he's
fucking unbelievable, but he, you know, less war than than
our boy John Oldrue. But regardless that also I had
Bo Jackson. Some guys remember that, Jack McDowell, Bo Jackson,
Tim Rains, Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura, Joey Cora, Ellis Burks,
Tim Belcher, Ozzygian, Lance Johnson, Jack mccaskell, Dan Pascal has
(07:46):
some great names to remember there. But the Blue Jays,
of course, they do win it in six games. We'll
just sort of breeze over right here. The seven to
three in the first game, no recollection, Like, honest to god,
when I was a kid, it just felt like they
were just in the World Series and that was it.
There was no un difficulty. One Guzman got the call
in Game one, eight walks, three strikeouts, only you have
(08:07):
two runs and six innings. Jack McDowell got lit up
a little bit, seven runs, thirteen hits. The Blue Jays
offense was fucking amazing. What do you really want? Paul
Molitor went deep, as he would do throughout the course
of the off season. The Jays also took Game two
three to one. That is why, partially the reason why
Dave Stewart wins your ALCS MVP goes six, gives up one.
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Al Lighter comes on in relief, and then Dwayne Wardo
gets the save. This one a lot less high scoring,
but Alamar drives in a run, and then Fernandez and
Borders drive in runs as well. Just some singles, not really,
only two doubles in the entire game. Really, no extra
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race hits the entire way, a real quiet one, a
real pitcher's duel, as they would say that one. The
White Sox would get it back. In Game three. They
win that one six to one. Pat Hankin gets lit
up a little bit, only last three innings, give up
six runs, and Wilson Alvarez throws a complete game. On
the other side, the Jays, oh, they must have seven
hits still because they are an absolute killing machine. But
(09:11):
they had never quite put it together, and they don't
nothing for extra base, no power. Rickey Henderson double is
the only extra base hit for the J's in that game.
A lot of eighties baseball, a lot of singles and
things of that nature. White sawce tie it up and
the next one, seven to four is the win. This
time it is Todd Stottlemeyer getting his tits absolutely lit
(09:35):
five runs and six innings. Lance Johnson hits a home run,
Devo hit a triple on in that game, and Alamar
had two doubles. The Jays offense continuing to rack up hits.
They had nine hits in that game, but not scoring runs.
They would break out in the next one with runs
in the first, second, third, fourth, and seventh innings. At
five three win, fourteen hits in this one, everybody getting
(09:59):
in on the hit parade, Ed Sprague driving into the
big takeaway for me so far looking back at all
these things, is just not a lot of home runs.
Guys just don't hit home runs.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Really, Yeah, wild a lot of especially on this team,
like every a lot of home runs with the White Sox. Yeah,
but like like game one, you have, I guess smaller
hit one in game one, nothing in game two, nothing
in Game three, two from the White soxing Game four,
two from White Sox in Game five, one each in
game six, Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Alamar gets on base five times in this game because
he is just that good at baseball. Jays take the
series in the next one six three. The win another
win for Dave Stewart. He goes seven, gives up two
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runs and finally a home run von White in the
ninth inning to seal it as they come back. By
the way, it was not come back, but they see it.
It was three to two going into the ninth and
j score three in the ninth inning to bust it
open and punch their ticket to the World Series.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Oh two, hitch hid in the air to right field,
partner has room and the Blue Jays are going back
to the World Series.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And who awaits them in the World Series? But the
gas House Gang the Philadelphia Phillies. You mentioned the Kawhi
shot so beautiful that a lot of the worst moments
in Philadelphia sports history have to do with the Toronto teams.
That makes me happy.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I feel like this Ninthie Phillies team was probably the
first team I ever hated outside of the ones like
you grow up supposed it like the Canadians, obvious immediately
because that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, you're a
Toronto fan. But the first like watching them makes me
hate them team because I was a little too young
(12:10):
for the Braves and I kind of liked the Braves
as a kid in the nineties, like I was, I
was a Braves fan. Ish for a minute, and like
the Leafs were just kind of the Leafs and like
hate the Habs, but like their big loss was to
the Kings, and it's like, well it's Wayne Gretzky's you
can't hate the Kings. Raptors didn't exist yet. Wasn't a
(12:30):
soccer fan yet, so Argos I didn't care. So I
feel like I hated this Phillies team. Hated them. Got
a piece of shit on this team.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I mean Kurt Schilling, you know what I mean. You
needn't go much further than kirtch.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
And Kurt Schilling and Lenny Dykstra and John and John
Kruck and Mitch Williams ugh, oh.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Dirt Baggs, every single one of them. The Blue Jays
win this first game eight five, if I might again,
with a home run John already it's a home run.
Kurt Shillink gets lit up seven runs and six and
a third. Fuck you, Kurt shillingk fuck you if you're listening,
goose Wine, not a lot better, but all Leider came
in and closed the door. We just go up one
(13:14):
nothing before even dig into this. A lot of runs
in this series, Holy cow, A lot of runs in
this series.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I believe it was the I could be wrong, but
I think it was the most runs until Astro's Dodgers
a couple years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I believe you were right, and that was a crazy
World series as well. ALCS MVP Dave Stewart went in
Game two. They lose that game six to four. Terry
Mullholland gets the win. Paul Malater two for three. Joe
Carter hit a home run. When I was a kid,
it felt like Joe Carter hit a home run every
single day.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But yeah, I remember when sort of our guess around
the time we started working at the score, when like
maybe a little before that, like when baseball analytics really
became a thing, and like analytics Twitter became a thing, right,
the like Joe Carter was actually bad argument that started
was both infuriating to me but also very confusing, because like,
(14:06):
when I was a kid, Joe Carter was the best
athlete on the planet. Yeah, just like was a superhuman
who just crushed baseballs forever.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
So true. I looking back at it, I was like,
you mean he didn't hit like forty five home runs.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I was like, yeah, no, no, learning that Joe Carter
was like a good player, and not a great one.
Was genuinely shocking to me.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
He hit thirty three, thirty four, thirty five, but still
I would have thought he was like MVP level and
he was evidently nowhere ever close to that game. Three
Blue Jays pistol whip ten three right out of the gate.
How fucking amazing is Paul Molder triple and a home run.
Paul moder went twenty twenty in this year. He stole
twenty bags at age thirty seven, No. Thirty six. He
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told twenty bases and hit twenty home runs. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That is that's that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Two twenty two and finished up for MVP. You gotta
love it. Yeah, some guy named Danny Jackson's got the
breakspeat off of him. Weill. Pat Hankin went six a
lot of like six inning early polls. He got a
Sado Gaston guy who managed a bullpen.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Also like just some crazy lineup management for this one
that would just get shredded on Twitter if it existed,
because it's the National League. You don't have the DH.
He moved Joe Pseudo Gaston, moved Joe Carter to first base,
which would keep John Oliarud out of the lineup. Oh, sorry,
that was what he did in ninety two. In ninety three,
(15:36):
Paul Mollitor had to be in the lineup. Obviously, Paul
Maler had to be in the lineup.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
He put Paul Molder at first base, removing John Oliarud
after the season he had in nineteen ninety three, which like,
you gotta have Malitor in no question. I get that's
a tough spot because Oliroud was just a first baseman.
But for like but man joonal Lord who hit three
(16:02):
sixty three that year. It's crazy not in the lineup.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Maybe Malwater goes three for three for four and knocks
in three runs and a home run in the triple
the next game. This is if we weren't doing the obvious,
the touch them all Joe the ninety three game four.
This is one of the craziest games in the history
of baseball.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
One ball in two strun.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
One two picks, little Looper, long run for.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Tykestra and right center can't get it. Bitters around with
the time run Henner.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Send it up play what the go ahead run? Fifteen
fourteen Toronto.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
We get asked in mail bags relatively often, Like what
do you what sporting event do you wish you could
have experienced as like as an adult, And like, I
think about what the tension that watching the Blue Jays
in the playoffs in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen felt
like in my life as an adult. I cannot imagine
(17:28):
being up to one in the literal World Series and
having to sit through this fucking game.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah. I think that's a great point, Jake Is. I
think our instinctive course is to go through the like
the record highs and the amazing single moments. But this
game ends up fifteen fourteen. The Blue Jays score six
in the eighth. I mean, you might never see anything
like this again if you're a Blue Jays fan, Like
they had some crazy games in twenty twenty that were
(17:56):
like low stakes, but Game four of the World Series, like,
and they score three in the first and the Phillies
answer with four, and Phillies then score two more to
make it six three. The Jays then score four to
make it seven to six, and then Philly scores again
to make it seven to seven. Then Philly scores five
in the fifth, one in the sixth one, and the
(18:16):
seventh today, score two in the sixth and six in
the eighth inning. Just an unbelievable display. And they do
it all without hitting a home run, by the way,
if you can believe that.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I feel like I don't know if this is a
fair comparison because different situations, But I remember in the
twenty nineteen Raptors Series, Game four of the finals was
actually kind of the most fun game because like they are,
they're up to one and they like wax them. They
smoke the Warriors in Game four, and so it's kind
(18:45):
of like the celebration game. And it was a weekend
night and it was like the celebration game of like,
holy shit, like they actually might do this kind of thing.
But like, I can only imagine how that would that
eighth inning being in a bar in Toronto as they
put up six to win fifteen fourteen and go up
three to one in the World Series. That would like
(19:07):
out of how you recover from that as a human.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Being crazy, it would be you'd be unconscious, like you
would use and there's a game the next day, you'd
be unconscious, like the holy The scheme took four hours
and fourteen minutes to complete, a nine to complete a
nine and in game truly ridiculous that eighth inning is
Joe Carter singles Olard walks Molitor with a double that
(19:30):
scores Carter. Fernandez singles that scores Olrude, Pat Borders walks,
by the way Mitch Williams is in this game at
this point that Borders walks at Sprague strikes outs and
then as two out, Rickey Henderson drives into with a single.
Then Devo triples, scoring two to make it fifteen fourteen,
(19:50):
just like you'll never see it again in your whole life.
You'll never see it again. And how Van Devon White,
Oh my god, he's everywhere in this fucking box scores
always as you said. The very next night, Game five
a nail bier, the exact opposite of the previous night.
It's a two to nothing Phillies win each team with
five hits. A real gem, I hate to say. At
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Kirks Shilling throws a nine inning, five hit complete game shoutout,
and then does not get into the Hall of Fame
because fuck you Krits Shilling. If you're listening to this,
fuck you Kris Chilly. That sets the stage, Jake, for
where we will pick up next week, which is Game six,
October twenty third, nineteen ninety three, one week before my
(20:33):
eighth birthday. The Toronto Blue Jays at home, back in
the SkyDome after three games in Philly, taking two of
three on the road. Back home at the SkyDome. The
starting pitching matchup is Terry Mullholland against smoke mister Dave Stewart.
Anything could happen, the craziest, craziest thing you may ever see.
(20:54):
It's nineteen eighty three World Series Game six. Next time
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