November 1, 2024 • 25 mins
Touch 'Em All Joe! On this episode of Sportsfeld Storytime we remember the greatest home run of our lives, as Joe Carter takes Mitch Williams deep to left to clinch a World Series title for the Toronto Blue Jays. Along the way, we remember Whoomp There It Is, Paul Molitor's unbelievable World Series MVP credentials, and wonder why we know commercials better than pretty much anything else in our lives. Doo-doo-doo doo-doo we're proud of our Blue Jays.
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome back inside Skuydom in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, where the
fans are in the food to celebrate. The parade has
already being planned for tomorrow as the Blue Jays and
their fans are eager to keep the trophy north.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Of the border.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The only reason we have returned to Canada is that
the Phillies refused to fold. That group there came back
strong in game five. Surely you've heard the old saying
about playing them one game at a time. Well, tonight, folks,
this is that one game. So pull up a chair
and join us. Get out of your peanuts and cracker.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Jack, no rain tonight, this is Panada.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Drive Hi and everybody on Pattlebrian and welcome to CBS Boors,
continuing coverage of the nineteen ninety three World Series. We've
got a couple of storylines to get you up to
date on tonight. First, now that they are back home,
but Toronto Blue Jays can take full advantage of the
designated hitter rule to use their awesome lineup to the fall,
(01:18):
as Paul Molitor will dh as the Jays looked at
Clinch for the first time in Canada in four each
World Series game here we commented about the remarkable streaks
of the hockey teams in Toronto. The Maple Leaves are
going for a league record ninth straight victory to begin
the season. As it turns out, the Philadelphia Flyers are
doing quite well. They are six and one, and on
this Saturday night, it's Baseball Night in Canada. We come
(01:41):
back Sean McDonough and Tim McCarver. We'll have the call
for Game six right after a message from your very
old local station. Enjoy the game, everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
The uf AT Skydomes closed, but if the Blue Jays
win tonight, the fans may raise the roof and celebration
of Toronto's second straight World championship. Hello everyone, and welcome
to Game six of the World Series. I'm Sean McDonald
along with Tim McCarver, and it's great to have you
with us. The situation is the same as it was
Thursday night for Game five in Philadelphia. Toronto still one
(02:15):
went away from the World Championship, while the Philadelphia Phillies
are in a must win situation. A force of Game
seven here tomorrow night and Tim, we said at the
start of this series that we thought it would be
high scoring and it has been and the top of
the orders have been doing more than their fair share.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
As a matter of fact, the one to two to
three spots in both orders has been as easy as
one two three. Look at the average for the Philadelphia
Phillies a three to seventy.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Five average Toronto three.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Sixty two, and the one to two and three spot
has scored more than half of the runs that have
been scored in this series. I think the rest of
the order, as far as the Blue Jays is concerned,
has been productive, especially with the.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Production of Tony Fernandez.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
However, I think for the Phillies to win the next
two games, they're going to have to get production out
of their number four and five spots.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
That's Dave Holland's and Darren Dalton.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
And the pitching matchup tonight is a rematch of Game two,
won by Philadelphia when Terry maul Holland vested Dave Stewart.
We'll have the first pitch of Game six from Skydom
right after this.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Sports It is Sports Felt storytime. We are going back
to our childhood, the way back nineteen ninety three. If
you've been falling along, we are tracking the nineteen ninety
three Torna Blue Jays, the team that truly and I
mean truly solidified our love of baseball for the rest
of our lives. Specifically, over twenty third nineteen ninety three,
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fifty two thousand, one hundred and ninety five fans crammed
into a wasn't there, but I'm gonna guess Humid Engross
got home with the dumb clothes. It's teamed and gross.
That's just it was early.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Nineties, so everyone was wearing like heavy gray sweaters.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
This wasn't This wasn't neon nineties that early sixtety Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
This is early nice. This is like because every like
ninety three World Series merch item you see is like
a heather gray sweater that just has like the World
Series logo on the front, looks like Jim. It all
looks like Jym.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Clothes because every photo I guess that is it's like
ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven was like Neon. Yeah,
everything was neon diglow because all the photos of me
back then and from my recollection, I wanted things to
be neon green, Neon orange, or teal. Those are the
three colors that I liked in the world.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
I love that the last couple of weeks we have
we have gone through, we have basically, for the first
time in our lives, I would say, become conscious of
what happened in the Blue Jays regular season this year,
and discussed the forgotten American League Championship Series against the
Chicago White Sox, and then we dug through and I
(05:13):
Canty three World Series, which was I think you put
it perfectly, sort of an introduction to having heroes and
villains in sports.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Yeah, I mean, the Phillies were just I don't know,
I guess so I guess like now that I know
more about sort of the sports and people in cities
like that, Phillies seems is very much like a Philly team,
I think, But like, boy, I fucking hated them.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Yeah, an extremely Philly team and that they didn't win.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I know, I still hate the Phillies to this day.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
What's it like about the Phillies?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Even when Doc went there, it was like it was
tough for me to be like, I want Doc to
do well, but also fuck the Phillies.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
It almost went perfectly that he threw a no hitter
and a perfect game, and then the rest of the
team didn't win.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
It's very true, went.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Just about perfectly. Game six coming off some some real
crazy like you mentioned it before. If there was Twitter around,
would have been like tweets out the butt Game four
where John Olrude, you know, Paal Walter playing third. John
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Oliver got benched for a game so they could play
Palm Walter first in game three, the fifteen to fourteen
comeback in game four to nothing shutout in game five,
Shilling's masterpiece. Shilling who's not in the Hall of Fame.
It can get fucked if he's listening to this. We
roll in two Game six all time drama before we
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get into the game, Jake, as we are wont to
do when we focus on absolutely one major game. Where
were you on the night of October twenty third, nineteen
ninety three. I was at home because I was mixing
Where would You wear? It was five years old.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I believe I watched the whole game. I know, in
ninety two, being being literally four years old, I remember
I did not see because like that and that game
was like long and late. I think it was extra
innings even when they won in ninety two. I believe
I was woke it up the next morning being told
that they won. But I think I would have been
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we had our We were in our first the first
home I lived in, which was at Pepe and dan
Forth in Toronto. So I must have been in our
third floor tiny like attic living room space watching the
game is where I.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Would have been with hardcore fan, Tod with hardcore fan,
and especially then Todd Gosby is not like is a
sports guy now but like not really early nineties, so
it was a sports family for sure.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I was in Buffalo, New York, in a hotel room.
Really yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. And it's funny you
mentioned nineteen eighty two. This is a famous family story
that I went to bed crying and upset when the
Blue Jays one ninety two?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Were you a brace?
Speaker 6 (08:14):
No, I have to you have to caution, right, sixty
years old, you don't understand that it's like impossible that
the Blue Jays are in the World Series, right, right,
like like I couldn't. Here's what I wanted, right, I
wanted the Blue Jays to win at home. That was
all I wanted. That's what I was mad about.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
You know, I get that when I was a kid,
that was a big deal. Winning at home was like
a thing.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
I remember that I was at my and that time
I was at my aunt Deb's house. Aunt Deb and
uncle Bruce. I was at their house and I was
I'm ridiculed to this day of course in that house
because I was crying and mad the Blue Jays won.
Everyone else in the family's going bananas, and I am
crying because I wanted them to win at home, and like,
I was like mad that they didn't. They like not
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even really a Canadian team, like the Braves have more Canadians.
I think, I said, what a little a little shit,
But yeah, I was like mad in ninety two because
I wanted them to win. I thought Game seven at
home is more fun, was my thought. M right, because
the idea that they weren't going to win was stupid.
Obviously they're going to win, right, why wouldn't they win.
(09:24):
I want them to win. I want them to win
at home the crowd, with the crowd in the most
exciting way possible.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Right right, which is basically what ended up happening.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Well, look at me now a year later, who's so smart?
All of a sudden, nineteen eighty three year rolls around
I'm one not going to get sad this time because
I am a year older and a year smarter, and
when you're very young, one year is a huge difference
in your development. Of course, interesting not at home for
either one of these games, as it goes. But yeah,
we were in a hotel room in Buffalo, New York.
(09:57):
I was jumping up and down on the bed when
Joe Carter did what he did. I think that's I
think that's very funny to me. You're you're not remembering
if you're away for the whole game. It's one of
those things where like you don't realize it until until
you're older, that like there's a good chance you did
fall asleep and your dad like woke you up and
(10:17):
showed it to you after ye and you thought it
was happening live and had no idsel or.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I've watched the World Series tapes every day for three years,
which is which I did, and like I've seen the
highlights a million times, so it's like in my head
that I was awake, but maybe I wasn't. I was
literally just five years old, so solid chance I didn't
say up till ten thirty or eleven.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Or wround this game ended, But yeah, jumping up and
down on the bed when this game ended. And remember
honking in the street. Remember people out of their hotel rooms,
looping and yelling as we are in America. But Buffalo
is basically Canada, Let's be honest with you in terms
of proximity to border. And at the time, like it
(10:57):
sall like the Buffalo residents were huge Phillies fans. And
correct me if I'm wrong, Jake, But the Philadelphia Phillies
did they not rally around this song? Womb there? It
is a party over there, wave hands and yes, take
the dead these three words. When you're getting busy, it
is upside down and inside out. I'm about to show
(11:34):
what are you folks for this all about? Now it's
time boarders to get on the money and make this.
Maybe I had to look this up. Yes, I couldn't
even finish the thing. Womb there it is nineteen eighty
three Phillies. Oh look at this from a from phillymag
dot com. The The headline is fat, drunk and endearing.
(11:57):
A look back at the ninety three Phillies.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
There you go. It's all you need to tell us,
You all you need to.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Know with number one on the Billboard Hot R and
B Charts A ninety two ninety three I'm The only.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Song I remember from this era was the Coca Cola
Do Do Do?
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Yeah, that's do Do Do Do Do.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
That's the one.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Down to nothing key commination. Listen to the Dream of
the World service always made the same, the cook away
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the Demon.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Didn't they bring that back in two thousand fifty?
Speaker 7 (13:19):
I think they did. I think you're right.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
You hate to see that. Yeah, that's never as funny
the second time. Yeah, they co commercial iconic, that Conic
Coke commercial.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
That can catch the taste for the Jay's commercials.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Remember, Yeah, it's so funny being a kid because like
even this game, like I really only remember the home run. Yeah,
and like but like you tell me the commercials, or
you tell me the tapes, or you tell me, like
a quote that somebody said in the tape, like, oh,
I got that down very Oh, I.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Can tell you like the fan banter that the camera's
caught of, like Phillies fans in ninety three.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yes, the girl with the decos underneath her eyes praying
and yeah, but you the dude doing tiger fist pumps,
that got it all on the in the you asked me.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
How the first few runs of this game are scored?
No idea.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I'm glad you asked, Jake. The Blue Days jump out
to a three nothing lead in the first inning, which
I again, we've done this before. If we were reliving this,
I don't know how I would have survived most of this.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Oh my god, clinging to a three nothing lead in
one game away from the World Series. I would be
drunk by the second.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
But again, we're kids, right, and the Jays had never
not won the World Series as probably exactly.
Speaker 9 (14:29):
And here's Paul Momitor, another leading depended for MVP honors,
with his full twenty one average. Mama A, you're right center, Well,
eyes have right gone on run looking up, that's up right,
speeding toward third.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
He'll come on on the score motor in a third
with a trickle and the Blue Jays lead one and nothing.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
Malachers, showing tremendous power the other way, puts a charge Jim,
this one to right center and the ball hits the
fence and with that much.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Hang time, that not only.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
Allows White to score, but it allows Monitor to go
to third his second triple in fifth extra base hit
of the series. So he not only drives in one,
he's in a good position now.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
To score at third base with less than two outs.
Speaker 9 (15:23):
Tider high fly ball to left Thompson drifting back.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Thompson at the wall, mix the catch, Monitor can trot
him from third in the Blue Jays League two.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
To nothing, It goes Motor triple to score a White
Jolt and Joe sack fly to score Monitor Old Rood doubles.
All Donald Rude does every day of his life is
to hit doubles. And then Alamar drives him in three
notathin Blue Jays Terry Mulholland eat it pretty deep and
then we go scoreless into the fourth inning. Jim eisen
(16:01):
Reich drives in Darren Dalton. That's you know, huh say
which we will? Jim eisen Reich drives in Darren Dalton.
Dave Stewart by the way on the hill for the
Blue Jays. Ed Sprague hits a sack fly to score
Robbie Alamar. You see a lot of sack flies in
the nineties.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Yeah, I feel like and like I feel like sack
flies was like a real maybe it's a saber metric
thing that changed, like I remember when I was a
kid playing baseballs, like you can drive that run in, do.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
It, no matter what. Bottom five, with the Jay's up
before one. It's Paulie and Wally Doodle all the day.
Paul mollwitor home run the left field. It is five
to one. I can't believe that that wasn't I would
I would have been like, yeah, that's it, five to one.
Game over. In twenty twenty, I'm like, yes, it would be.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
If this was the same sort of environment that we
watched the Raptors win the finals in. After that modeling room,
we'd all be doing shots and celebrating like this is over,
We're winning the World Series.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
A scoreless sixth, and then it all comes absolutely crashing down.
Dave Stewart gives up, gives up a three run shot
to Lenny Dykstra. Couldn't pick a worse person to give
a three run shot. It's walked single Diister home run.
Now it's five to four. Dave Hollins drives in. Mariano Duncan.
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Now it's five to five. Pete Nicovilia hits a sack fly.
Gotta be a sack fly off of Al Lighter and
all of a suddenly it is six five Phillies. I
assume as a child that I couldn't have cared less
about that. I like, yeah, that's fine, Yeah we deal.
But as an adult I would have been unconscious. I
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would have just fallen apart, melted into the ground.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
I know exactly what I've been doing because we went
through this right for the bat flip in twenty fifteen,
with the ball off the bat scoring Francisco or Door
scoring Ruth Neto Door. It was the exact position. Did
you sit at a table in the bar you're at,
You put your face on your chin or your or
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your chin on your hand, and you just sit there
and just kind of stare into space. Yeah, you don't
say a word, and anyone who tries to talk to you,
you tell the fuck off.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Bartering with God, pleading for mercy somewhere some way. But
there is the faintest glimmer of hope on the horizon.
Speaker 11 (18:30):
One run late for Philadelphia. As we go to the
bottle of the knife and the question post on the
top of the knife has been answered, Jim Fragosi will
manage as he did during the regular season, and he'll
give the ball to Mitch Williams to try to get
the final three outs and force the game seven.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
Remember that whole television series Get Smart Rick Donald Padams.
The great line of that was right ninety nine. Well
the ghost getting Smart man falling at number ninety nine
again forty three says this year.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
There was not a fair cut thing.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
The last time out, Fitch Williams was lays out over
Patrick stage. This is his first appearance his wins to
Night and.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
He was not warming up with the score.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
To thenoh in favorite Colodell kill the Late at Eatail
the Night.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Perhaps it's all depending in a game like this, a
lot of which.
Speaker 11 (19:28):
Team wins that Mitch Williams and Timmatiefs will appear in
the ball game.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
William duo the postseason.
Speaker 11 (19:38):
That the doll moment.
Speaker 12 (19:40):
Yet with those two killing the ballgame, Serna about Williams
lately from the Phillies game point he be his velocity
would have hidden cowered in his last couple about it
top of the Owner Ricky Henderson lamline, Blue Jays run
(20:02):
the four two runs in.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
There the World Championship, the wild thing. Mitch Williams comes
out of the bullpen for the bottom of the ninth
he immediately walks Rick Henderson, which baseball history tells us
one of the worst things you can do is walk Henderson.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Never Also, like I'm not gonna say like the blue
Jays winning was like pre ordained or anything. Starting your
bottom of the ninth off with Rick literally Ricky Henderson
leading off and getting on base, good luck.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
It's what you It's what you would draw up. Could
you draw it up? Devon White flies out to left.
Paul Molitor singles, because all Paul Molitor does as a
Blue Jays is like we've been through the entire postseason
and most of this season. I don't know if that
I we ever covered a game where it was like
Molitor didn't play very well, you know, home running the
triple in this game three for five, three runs drove
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into his final line in the World Series four fifty one,
three thirteen seventy eight ops crazy crazy palm water was
crazy as a Blue Jay. And then stepp into the
plate is Joe Carter.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Joe has had his moments, two balls and two strikes
on it.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Here's the pitch on the way, a swinging a belt.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Old field pay back Blue Jays, But the blue.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Jays a World Series champions, US Joe Carter picks a
three rubbed home run in the ninth Cunning and the
Blue Jays every pete as World Series champions. Touch them all, Joe,
You'll never hit a bigger home run in your life.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Touch them all, Joe, Listen. The greatest, the greatest moment,
the greatest call. Uh, something that you'll never forget. I mean,
it's it's it's a it's a touchstone of our childhoods.
It's a it's one of the great moments in baseball history,
which is what I love about it.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Yeah, I think I also feel like it's a this
might be wrong, but like I feel like it's a
moment that doesn't get the historical credit deserves in a
lot of ways. Like I agree, you see a lot
of lists of like great baseball loans, and like, I
don't know why, but I feel like the Kirk Gibson
home run is always ahead of the Carter one, which
to me is fucking crazy. Yeah, Joe Carter's literally won
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the World Series with a home run.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
The other thing I find interesting about this one is
because as Toronto people, Tom Cheeks call is so burned
into our brains. I forget constantly that that wasn't like
the broadcast call, like when you go look for a highlight,
because sometimes like I want to watch Joe Carter win
the World Series for a second, and then it's the
(22:55):
I think it's Brian Gumble who calls it, uh, and
like it's not a bad call or anything, but it's
just in your head, your weight, You're ready to hear
Tom Cheek and then it's not. You're like, oh right,
it's just funny how that like Mandela affects itself into
our heads. And also to the point of what we
were talking about, experiencing this now, this would have killed me.
(23:16):
Oh yeah, this would have just destroyed me. I wouldn't
know what to.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Do, couldn't read Moore. It would have been thinking about
how the bat flip crushed your brain, thinking about the
idea of like holy cow, this would have been This
would have been pandemonium. This would have been like Colin ambulance.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Like I was at the twenty sixteen Wild Card game
when Edwin walked it off and that was amazing and
like it was bananas. I like couldn't no one could
really control anything about themselves when he hit the home
run and that was like literally to kind of make
the playoffs to win the world too. I don't know
what I would do. I don't know, I truly I
(23:54):
would just run in a cert. I think if we
were in a bar, I would run out of the
bar and like run around the block.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Well, I'll tell you what I did as I jumped
up and down on a bed in a hotel room
and I went out and howled at the moon in Buffalo,
New York. What an unbelievable memory. And we mentioned it before,
only further cements that, like, I don't care that Joe
Carter wasn't the best player in the league. It doesn't matter,
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doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Yeah, it will never matter.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
It's about moments. It always has been. That is the
absolute peak of the Blue Jays one series one. It
doesn't get better than that. It can't get better than that.
It's it's as good as it could possibly be. In
the next episode next week, we will we will deal
with the fallout because things sort of fell apart after this,
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not for the Blue Jays but for baseball in general,
and it took them a long time to sort of
dig out onto the rebel. We will cover the fallout
from the ninety three World Series and the strike, and
all the things that follow. In the next episode of
Sports Story typ
Welcome back inside Skuydom in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, where the
fans are in the food to celebrate. The parade has
already being planned for tomorrow as the Blue Jays and
their fans are eager to keep the trophy north.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Of the border.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
The only reason we have returned to Canada is that
the Phillies refused to fold. That group there came back
strong in game five. Surely you've heard the old saying
about playing them one game at a time. Well, tonight, folks,
this is that one game. So pull up a chair
and join us. Get out of your peanuts and cracker.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Jack, no rain tonight, this is Panada.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Drive Hi and everybody on Pattlebrian and welcome to CBS Boors,
continuing coverage of the nineteen ninety three World Series. We've
got a couple of storylines to get you up to
date on tonight. First, now that they are back home,
but Toronto Blue Jays can take full advantage of the
designated hitter rule to use their awesome lineup to the fall,
(01:18):
as Paul Molitor will dh as the Jays looked at
Clinch for the first time in Canada in four each
World Series game here we commented about the remarkable streaks
of the hockey teams in Toronto. The Maple Leaves are
going for a league record ninth straight victory to begin
the season. As it turns out, the Philadelphia Flyers are
doing quite well. They are six and one, and on
this Saturday night, it's Baseball Night in Canada. We come
(01:41):
back Sean McDonough and Tim McCarver. We'll have the call
for Game six right after a message from your very
old local station. Enjoy the game, everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
The uf AT Skydomes closed, but if the Blue Jays
win tonight, the fans may raise the roof and celebration
of Toronto's second straight World championship. Hello everyone, and welcome
to Game six of the World Series. I'm Sean McDonald
along with Tim McCarver, and it's great to have you
with us. The situation is the same as it was
Thursday night for Game five in Philadelphia. Toronto still one
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went away from the World Championship, while the Philadelphia Phillies
are in a must win situation. A force of Game
seven here tomorrow night and Tim, we said at the
start of this series that we thought it would be
high scoring and it has been and the top of
the orders have been doing more than their fair share.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
As a matter of fact, the one to two to
three spots in both orders has been as easy as
one two three. Look at the average for the Philadelphia
Phillies a three to seventy.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Five average Toronto three.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Sixty two, and the one to two and three spot
has scored more than half of the runs that have
been scored in this series. I think the rest of
the order, as far as the Blue Jays is concerned,
has been productive, especially with the.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Production of Tony Fernandez.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
However, I think for the Phillies to win the next
two games, they're going to have to get production out
of their number four and five spots.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
That's Dave Holland's and Darren Dalton.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
And the pitching matchup tonight is a rematch of Game two,
won by Philadelphia when Terry maul Holland vested Dave Stewart.
We'll have the first pitch of Game six from Skydom
right after this.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Sports It is Sports Felt storytime. We are going back
to our childhood, the way back nineteen ninety three. If
you've been falling along, we are tracking the nineteen ninety
three Torna Blue Jays, the team that truly and I
mean truly solidified our love of baseball for the rest
of our lives. Specifically, over twenty third nineteen ninety three,
(04:03):
fifty two thousand, one hundred and ninety five fans crammed
into a wasn't there, but I'm gonna guess Humid Engross
got home with the dumb clothes. It's teamed and gross.
That's just it was early.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Nineties, so everyone was wearing like heavy gray sweaters.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
This wasn't This wasn't neon nineties that early sixtety Yeah.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
This is early nice. This is like because every like
ninety three World Series merch item you see is like
a heather gray sweater that just has like the World
Series logo on the front, looks like Jim. It all
looks like Jym.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Clothes because every photo I guess that is it's like
ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven was like Neon. Yeah,
everything was neon diglow because all the photos of me
back then and from my recollection, I wanted things to
be neon green, Neon orange, or teal. Those are the
three colors that I liked in the world.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
I love that the last couple of weeks we have
we have gone through, we have basically, for the first
time in our lives, I would say, become conscious of
what happened in the Blue Jays regular season this year,
and discussed the forgotten American League Championship Series against the
Chicago White Sox, and then we dug through and I
(05:13):
Canty three World Series, which was I think you put
it perfectly, sort of an introduction to having heroes and
villains in sports.
Speaker 7 (05:22):
Yeah, I mean, the Phillies were just I don't know,
I guess so I guess like now that I know
more about sort of the sports and people in cities
like that, Phillies seems is very much like a Philly team,
I think, But like, boy, I fucking hated them.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Yeah, an extremely Philly team and that they didn't win.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I know, I still hate the Phillies to this day.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
What's it like about the Phillies?
Speaker 7 (05:48):
Even when Doc went there, it was like it was
tough for me to be like, I want Doc to
do well, but also fuck the Phillies.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
It almost went perfectly that he threw a no hitter
and a perfect game, and then the rest of the
team didn't win.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
It's very true, went.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Just about perfectly. Game six coming off some some real
crazy like you mentioned it before. If there was Twitter around,
would have been like tweets out the butt Game four
where John Olrude, you know, Paal Walter playing third. John
(06:21):
Oliver got benched for a game so they could play
Palm Walter first in game three, the fifteen to fourteen
comeback in game four to nothing shutout in game five,
Shilling's masterpiece. Shilling who's not in the Hall of Fame.
It can get fucked if he's listening to this. We
roll in two Game six all time drama before we
(06:42):
get into the game, Jake, as we are wont to
do when we focus on absolutely one major game. Where
were you on the night of October twenty third, nineteen
ninety three. I was at home because I was mixing
Where would You wear? It was five years old.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I believe I watched the whole game. I know, in
ninety two, being being literally four years old, I remember
I did not see because like that and that game
was like long and late. I think it was extra
innings even when they won in ninety two. I believe
I was woke it up the next morning being told
that they won. But I think I would have been
(07:20):
we had our We were in our first the first
home I lived in, which was at Pepe and dan
Forth in Toronto. So I must have been in our
third floor tiny like attic living room space watching the
game is where I.
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Would have been with hardcore fan, Tod with hardcore fan,
and especially then Todd Gosby is not like is a
sports guy now but like not really early nineties, so
it was a sports family for sure.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I was in Buffalo, New York, in a hotel room.
Really yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. And it's funny you
mentioned nineteen eighty two. This is a famous family story
that I went to bed crying and upset when the
Blue Jays one ninety two?
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Were you a brace?
Speaker 6 (08:14):
No, I have to you have to caution, right, sixty
years old, you don't understand that it's like impossible that
the Blue Jays are in the World Series, right, right,
like like I couldn't. Here's what I wanted, right, I
wanted the Blue Jays to win at home. That was
all I wanted. That's what I was mad about.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
You know, I get that when I was a kid,
that was a big deal. Winning at home was like
a thing.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
I remember that I was at my and that time
I was at my aunt Deb's house. Aunt Deb and
uncle Bruce. I was at their house and I was
I'm ridiculed to this day of course in that house
because I was crying and mad the Blue Jays won.
Everyone else in the family's going bananas, and I am
crying because I wanted them to win at home, and like,
I was like mad that they didn't. They like not
(09:02):
even really a Canadian team, like the Braves have more Canadians.
I think, I said, what a little a little shit,
But yeah, I was like mad in ninety two because
I wanted them to win. I thought Game seven at
home is more fun, was my thought. M right, because
the idea that they weren't going to win was stupid.
Obviously they're going to win, right, why wouldn't they win.
(09:24):
I want them to win. I want them to win
at home the crowd, with the crowd in the most
exciting way possible.
Speaker 7 (09:31):
Right right, which is basically what ended up happening.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Well, look at me now a year later, who's so smart?
All of a sudden, nineteen eighty three year rolls around
I'm one not going to get sad this time because
I am a year older and a year smarter, and
when you're very young, one year is a huge difference
in your development. Of course, interesting not at home for
either one of these games, as it goes. But yeah,
we were in a hotel room in Buffalo, New York.
(09:57):
I was jumping up and down on the bed when
Joe Carter did what he did. I think that's I
think that's very funny to me. You're you're not remembering
if you're away for the whole game. It's one of
those things where like you don't realize it until until
you're older, that like there's a good chance you did
fall asleep and your dad like woke you up and
(10:17):
showed it to you after ye and you thought it
was happening live and had no idsel or.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
I've watched the World Series tapes every day for three years,
which is which I did, and like I've seen the
highlights a million times, so it's like in my head
that I was awake, but maybe I wasn't. I was
literally just five years old, so solid chance I didn't
say up till ten thirty or eleven.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Or wround this game ended, But yeah, jumping up and
down on the bed when this game ended. And remember
honking in the street. Remember people out of their hotel rooms,
looping and yelling as we are in America. But Buffalo
is basically Canada, Let's be honest with you in terms
of proximity to border. And at the time, like it
(10:57):
sall like the Buffalo residents were huge Phillies fans. And
correct me if I'm wrong, Jake, But the Philadelphia Phillies
did they not rally around this song? Womb there? It
is a party over there, wave hands and yes, take
the dead these three words. When you're getting busy, it
is upside down and inside out. I'm about to show
(11:34):
what are you folks for this all about? Now it's
time boarders to get on the money and make this.
Maybe I had to look this up. Yes, I couldn't
even finish the thing. Womb there it is nineteen eighty
three Phillies. Oh look at this from a from phillymag
dot com. The The headline is fat, drunk and endearing.
(11:57):
A look back at the ninety three Phillies.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
There you go. It's all you need to tell us,
You all you need to.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Know with number one on the Billboard Hot R and
B Charts A ninety two ninety three I'm The only.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Song I remember from this era was the Coca Cola
Do Do Do?
Speaker 6 (12:13):
Yeah, that's do Do Do Do Do.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
That's the one.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Down to nothing key commination. Listen to the Dream of
the World service always made the same, the cook away
(13:00):
the Demon.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Didn't they bring that back in two thousand fifty?
Speaker 7 (13:19):
I think they did. I think you're right.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
You hate to see that. Yeah, that's never as funny
the second time. Yeah, they co commercial iconic, that Conic
Coke commercial.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
That can catch the taste for the Jay's commercials.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Remember, Yeah, it's so funny being a kid because like
even this game, like I really only remember the home run. Yeah,
and like but like you tell me the commercials, or
you tell me the tapes, or you tell me, like
a quote that somebody said in the tape, like, oh,
I got that down very Oh, I.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
Can tell you like the fan banter that the camera's
caught of, like Phillies fans in ninety three.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Yes, the girl with the decos underneath her eyes praying
and yeah, but you the dude doing tiger fist pumps,
that got it all on the in the you asked me.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
How the first few runs of this game are scored?
No idea.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I'm glad you asked, Jake. The Blue Days jump out
to a three nothing lead in the first inning, which
I again, we've done this before. If we were reliving this,
I don't know how I would have survived most of this.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Oh my god, clinging to a three nothing lead in
one game away from the World Series. I would be
drunk by the second.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
But again, we're kids, right, and the Jays had never
not won the World Series as probably exactly.
Speaker 9 (14:29):
And here's Paul Momitor, another leading depended for MVP honors,
with his full twenty one average. Mama A, you're right center, Well,
eyes have right gone on run looking up, that's up right,
speeding toward third.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
He'll come on on the score motor in a third
with a trickle and the Blue Jays lead one and nothing.
Speaker 10 (14:54):
Malachers, showing tremendous power the other way, puts a charge Jim,
this one to right center and the ball hits the
fence and with that much.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Hang time, that not only.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
Allows White to score, but it allows Monitor to go
to third his second triple in fifth extra base hit
of the series. So he not only drives in one,
he's in a good position now.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
To score at third base with less than two outs.
Speaker 9 (15:23):
Tider high fly ball to left Thompson drifting back.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Thompson at the wall, mix the catch, Monitor can trot
him from third in the Blue Jays League two.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
To nothing, It goes Motor triple to score a White
Jolt and Joe sack fly to score Monitor Old Rood doubles.
All Donald Rude does every day of his life is
to hit doubles. And then Alamar drives him in three
notathin Blue Jays Terry Mulholland eat it pretty deep and
then we go scoreless into the fourth inning. Jim eisen
(16:01):
Reich drives in Darren Dalton. That's you know, huh say
which we will? Jim eisen Reich drives in Darren Dalton.
Dave Stewart by the way on the hill for the
Blue Jays. Ed Sprague hits a sack fly to score
Robbie Alamar. You see a lot of sack flies in
the nineties.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Yeah, I feel like and like I feel like sack
flies was like a real maybe it's a saber metric
thing that changed, like I remember when I was a
kid playing baseballs, like you can drive that run in, do.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
It, no matter what. Bottom five, with the Jay's up
before one. It's Paulie and Wally Doodle all the day.
Paul mollwitor home run the left field. It is five
to one. I can't believe that that wasn't I would
I would have been like, yeah, that's it, five to one.
Game over. In twenty twenty, I'm like, yes, it would be.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
If this was the same sort of environment that we
watched the Raptors win the finals in. After that modeling room,
we'd all be doing shots and celebrating like this is over,
We're winning the World Series.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
A scoreless sixth, and then it all comes absolutely crashing down.
Dave Stewart gives up, gives up a three run shot
to Lenny Dykstra. Couldn't pick a worse person to give
a three run shot. It's walked single Diister home run.
Now it's five to four. Dave Hollins drives in. Mariano Duncan.
(17:22):
Now it's five to five. Pete Nicovilia hits a sack fly.
Gotta be a sack fly off of Al Lighter and
all of a suddenly it is six five Phillies. I
assume as a child that I couldn't have cared less
about that. I like, yeah, that's fine, Yeah we deal.
But as an adult I would have been unconscious. I
(17:44):
would have just fallen apart, melted into the ground.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
I know exactly what I've been doing because we went
through this right for the bat flip in twenty fifteen,
with the ball off the bat scoring Francisco or Door
scoring Ruth Neto Door. It was the exact position. Did
you sit at a table in the bar you're at,
You put your face on your chin or your or
(18:07):
your chin on your hand, and you just sit there
and just kind of stare into space. Yeah, you don't
say a word, and anyone who tries to talk to you,
you tell the fuck off.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Bartering with God, pleading for mercy somewhere some way. But
there is the faintest glimmer of hope on the horizon.
Speaker 11 (18:30):
One run late for Philadelphia. As we go to the
bottle of the knife and the question post on the
top of the knife has been answered, Jim Fragosi will
manage as he did during the regular season, and he'll
give the ball to Mitch Williams to try to get
the final three outs and force the game seven.
Speaker 10 (18:48):
Remember that whole television series Get Smart Rick Donald Padams.
The great line of that was right ninety nine. Well
the ghost getting Smart man falling at number ninety nine
again forty three says this year.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
There was not a fair cut thing.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
The last time out, Fitch Williams was lays out over
Patrick stage. This is his first appearance his wins to
Night and.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
He was not warming up with the score.
Speaker 11 (19:22):
To thenoh in favorite Colodell kill the Late at Eatail
the Night.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Perhaps it's all depending in a game like this, a
lot of which.
Speaker 11 (19:28):
Team wins that Mitch Williams and Timmatiefs will appear in
the ball game.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
William duo the postseason.
Speaker 11 (19:38):
That the doll moment.
Speaker 12 (19:40):
Yet with those two killing the ballgame, Serna about Williams
lately from the Phillies game point he be his velocity
would have hidden cowered in his last couple about it
top of the Owner Ricky Henderson lamline, Blue Jays run
(20:02):
the four two runs in.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
There the World Championship, the wild thing. Mitch Williams comes
out of the bullpen for the bottom of the ninth
he immediately walks Rick Henderson, which baseball history tells us
one of the worst things you can do is walk Henderson.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Never Also, like I'm not gonna say like the blue
Jays winning was like pre ordained or anything. Starting your
bottom of the ninth off with Rick literally Ricky Henderson
leading off and getting on base, good luck.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
It's what you It's what you would draw up. Could
you draw it up? Devon White flies out to left.
Paul Molitor singles, because all Paul Molitor does as a
Blue Jays is like we've been through the entire postseason
and most of this season. I don't know if that
I we ever covered a game where it was like
Molitor didn't play very well, you know, home running the
triple in this game three for five, three runs drove
(20:56):
into his final line in the World Series four fifty one,
three thirteen seventy eight ops crazy crazy palm water was
crazy as a Blue Jay. And then stepp into the
plate is Joe Carter.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Joe has had his moments, two balls and two strikes
on it.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Here's the pitch on the way, a swinging a belt.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Old field pay back Blue Jays, But the blue.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Jays a World Series champions, US Joe Carter picks a
three rubbed home run in the ninth Cunning and the
Blue Jays every pete as World Series champions. Touch them all, Joe,
You'll never hit a bigger home run in your life.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Touch them all, Joe, Listen. The greatest, the greatest moment,
the greatest call. Uh, something that you'll never forget. I mean,
it's it's it's a it's a touchstone of our childhoods.
It's a it's one of the great moments in baseball history,
which is what I love about it.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Yeah, I think I also feel like it's a this
might be wrong, but like I feel like it's a
moment that doesn't get the historical credit deserves in a
lot of ways. Like I agree, you see a lot
of lists of like great baseball loans, and like, I
don't know why, but I feel like the Kirk Gibson
home run is always ahead of the Carter one, which
to me is fucking crazy. Yeah, Joe Carter's literally won
(22:32):
the World Series with a home run.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
The other thing I find interesting about this one is
because as Toronto people, Tom Cheeks call is so burned
into our brains. I forget constantly that that wasn't like
the broadcast call, like when you go look for a highlight,
because sometimes like I want to watch Joe Carter win
the World Series for a second, and then it's the
(22:55):
I think it's Brian Gumble who calls it, uh, and
like it's not a bad call or anything, but it's
just in your head, your weight, You're ready to hear
Tom Cheek and then it's not. You're like, oh right,
it's just funny how that like Mandela affects itself into
our heads. And also to the point of what we
were talking about, experiencing this now, this would have killed me.
(23:16):
Oh yeah, this would have just destroyed me. I wouldn't
know what to.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Do, couldn't read Moore. It would have been thinking about
how the bat flip crushed your brain, thinking about the
idea of like holy cow, this would have been This
would have been pandemonium. This would have been like Colin ambulance.
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Like I was at the twenty sixteen Wild Card game
when Edwin walked it off and that was amazing and
like it was bananas. I like couldn't no one could
really control anything about themselves when he hit the home
run and that was like literally to kind of make
the playoffs to win the world too. I don't know
what I would do. I don't know, I truly I
(23:54):
would just run in a cert. I think if we
were in a bar, I would run out of the
bar and like run around the block.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Well, I'll tell you what I did as I jumped
up and down on a bed in a hotel room
and I went out and howled at the moon in Buffalo,
New York. What an unbelievable memory. And we mentioned it before,
only further cements that, like, I don't care that Joe
Carter wasn't the best player in the league. It doesn't matter,
(24:21):
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Yeah, it will never matter.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
It's about moments. It always has been. That is the
absolute peak of the Blue Jays one series one. It
doesn't get better than that. It can't get better than that.
It's it's as good as it could possibly be. In
the next episode next week, we will we will deal
with the fallout because things sort of fell apart after this,
(24:46):
not for the Blue Jays but for baseball in general,
and it took them a long time to sort of
dig out onto the rebel. We will cover the fallout
from the ninety three World Series and the strike, and
all the things that follow. In the next episode of
Sports Story typ
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