Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Twenty seconds away from over time. Huck is shot in
on gold. It's Joseph clear to live with a stick
Fisher chime as Samer hustle is open in front. Roberts
us up with ten second shot away in regulation.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
He had to turn down on remired long pass and
to get over the line.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
He's gonna be a chance shot. That's any fan on it.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
There is the horn end the third period, off the
heel of a stick, Roberts with that last chance for
a shot on gold.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
And couldn't make it. All comes the time now where
the pressure is on everybody on this big crowd, on
the two goalies, Joseph and Lilly and Danny tonight, and
of course everybody who's on the shift. Am I suppose
you can include the officials with that too. Absolutely, We've
got mccrarry and then miss and all and the two
(00:52):
reveries will watch this on a laws a goal.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Away from taking a commanding lead in the series winning
pop fuck in Game one here tonight, getting up.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The third period the centus over time. It is sports
(01:41):
Feld story time. We are heading in to overtime and
the maple leafs Ottawa Senators two thousand and two playoffs.
Game two it's a triple overtime classic. It is the
Battle of Ontario in the series. It's one nothing Senators.
They had won Game one five nothing. He just looked
back at what this time was like for the Battle
(02:04):
of Ontario and really a hatred on both sides. Lots
of guys on each team that the other team hated
a lot. We talked about how much of but he
hated Darcy Tucker, how much naval Les fans. I think
I hated Chris Neil. I hated Daniel Alfordson, I hated
Wade Redden. There were a lot of guys and the
(02:25):
Senators I hated a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I hated the whole time. This because, again, like
I said in our first episode, I was thirteen, which
is like prime genuinely hate athletes time, not in like
kind of the fun like Ben Simmons is a coward
way like it was like, especially guys like Redden and
Neil were just the bane of my existence as a
(02:49):
sports fan and like into being a person, not just
sports fandom. This was like conversations at school and with
other people and with adult elt about like how much
we hated these players, Like this was a sports was
an odd time in the early two thousands, we.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Sort of categorized it as the little brother looking like
he may finally have big brother pinned for the first time.
And this overtime starts off. The first overtime is not
super eventful, which is sort of a weird thing to
say about a playoff. Over time, there's a another Carol
pe lash Drive, Carol pea lash Man. He really I
(03:31):
did not expect as many Carol pe lash highlights as
I got in this game.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
No, no, no, to the point where when I started
watching this game and they were all sort of filing
onto the ice, I just saw his jersey and I
had to go, oh, yeah, Carol Peelash. I couldn't have
told you what years he was on the team before
watching this.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He had a primary assist on Travis Green's opening goal,
and he played forty four minutes in this game. You
can believe that good for him. It's a lot of
Carroll lush. There's a pile up in front of Kujo,
as there often is. He was sort of scrambling around
making saves. My big note in bold letters from the
first overtime is Gary Roberts is too cool. We went
(04:12):
into this in the last episode, but man, he is
the straws during the drink on everything this team does well.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I think because of his style of play too, sort
of being that big, hulking sort of goal scorer rather
than the quick sid guy. Yeah, his ability to just
sort of hold the puck and not be moved off
of it for quite some time and allow the play
to develop was I obviously it's not how I watched
(04:43):
hockey back then, so like it wasn't anything. I think
it was more just like he scored, so he was great,
but rewatching it really surprising just how strong and useful
I guess, for lack of better word, he was in
this game and as a player.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
For this team. He's also got two black eyes. By
the way, again truculence underrated thing that sort of jumped
out to me that I sort of hadn't thought about.
But when they showed Tucker with the two black eyes
and they showed Domey with they cut on his face.
No visors for a bunch of these guys.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Oh yeah, because this was the debate. This was this
was like the peak visors are bad era, because there's
especially something that these guys being vets who are like
sort of on their way out or like at least
in the back half of their careers, like they weren't
gonna put visors on, which you're right, seems insane.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, So, first over time, I don't think there's a
lot to really dig into their The second overtime is bananas,
Like it's ridiculous. Right away, thirty seconds in the leam,
an unreal stop Robert Reichel with the chance. But lalim,
(06:01):
he was pretty good in this game. He was.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, I think, as we've said, you can pin a
lot of the sort of senator's failures to top the
leafs on the leam, not this one he was. No,
he wasn't. As you know, the saves aren't quite as
I guess highlight reel as what Kujo was doing on
(06:23):
the other end. But I also feel like that wasn't
really his game.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So right in the middle of this period, the ten
minute market of this period, there's about one, two, three, four,
I have six different events that all happen in the
span of like a minute and a half that is
just pure bananas. Kujo is down and out like absolutely
beat then the puck trickles just wide, and then somewhere
(06:48):
in that play there's a big tangle up and the
net gets knocked off and they get saved. Philadelpholis got
saved on that one as well. Daniel Alfredson like one
times a puck off the board and it gets in
the skates of the defenseman and in kujo skates and
somehow gets by Bob Wren again in his one playoff
(07:09):
game of his six career NHEL games. In the nine
minutes he played as a brutal pass in what could
be across size one time or to win the game. Uh.
And then Darcy Tucker hits the post. Michael wakes fouring
he's covered now, but he pats it loose when it
did come off the boards and Tucker rolls over. Pucker
(07:30):
leaves at former Gilney Phil.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
SATs time hit bost.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Pucker hit the bosts killing here running a summary cast.
Here's the chests. Heylash, Nilo man, he must stop comelay.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Let's try him on here.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Pucker shut off the goal post. Pucker again, Let's better
a way down the ice, hab I said, mother crowd
is buzzing on that last bory brutal, heartbreaking. He cycles
out to mcgilney. Mcgilney finds him in the slot. He
beats Lalim, but the post saves Ottawa.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I had the weird thing of rewatching this game with
the knowledge that this game goes three overtimes and seeing
that Tucker shot and being like what and then it
hits the post like there he like, you can't believe
he missed that shot. Even the crowd. The crowd thought
it was over. I think he thought it was over.
(08:29):
It's just one of the It's one of those like
playoff hockey things where he hits the post there like, oh,
the leafs.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Are done, like that was it? Yeah, totally. That's nine
minutes left in the second overtime when that happens. My
last note four double overtime is something you mentioned in
the previous episode was the maple least get a power
play and Cobberley is dancing on the blue line as
(08:56):
he was want to do, and Bob Cole does does
the Cobberlet doesn't like to shoot from back there, and
he really is like going out of his way to
not shoot on this play.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's it's crazy and I'm trying to forget the strategy.
Is it just like you don't want to give up
the rush the other way. I guess like it just
seems I know, it's.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
A very good passer for one. For one thing, Yeah
he was, and.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
He had McKay beside him his whole career, whose whole
thing was taking a Cobberlet pass and just shooting it
as hard as he possibly could.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Later in that shift, Cobberlet sneaks down and crushes a
slap shot and fires at wide. That was I think
the setup was too pronged of like him being a
better passer, and when he finally does shoot, it's gonna
catch you off guard because he crushes that one timer.
(09:50):
But well, what the thing that the Tucker post sort
of does it? Maybe my eyes are just sort of
seeing this because I sort of know what happens in
the third overtime. But I feel like the Leafs sort
of have a plan to use the rest of the
(10:12):
overtime period to prove that they weren't tired. I think
that is what I like, because they start really laying
the body Tucker Hammer's bread and you get more of
Roberts doing what he does well, really digging in. He
had nineteen points in nineteen games by the way in
the playoffs that year. Wow, I wonder minutes.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I wonder if there's something too that, Like, obviously we
have you and I have established many times that we
don't know shit about how to like actually strategize or
play hockey. But I wonder if there is something in
like a back half of a second overtime, I'm just
like knocking guys around and making them have to get
back up and keep going after you're just like sort
(10:54):
of you've been on the ice for however many minutes.
So I don't know if I might just be talking
about nothing and that might not be a thing, But
I wonder if that was more of a on purpose
strategy than just the Least being tough, greedy guys.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
You know. I think I think part of it is
sort of how that Least team played. You sort of
talked about it in the previous episode. Was they were
a heavy, slow team, and I think at this point
of the game it was we need to get back
to leaning on that because if they're tired and we
can wear them out physically, we will get that chance
(11:33):
to present itself. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I think that that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's how Patty Quinn coached them up. That's a fatter
of fact. The period ends with with a penalty for
Sean Sean mckechorn, who has the biggest a visor I've
(11:57):
ever seen in my life. It's like a it's like
a ppe like support shields.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
At that point, just where the cage man couldn't agree
more put the cage on.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
That's the power play that Kaberleid eventually shoots on and
that we both pulled that Bob quote quote both pulled
the Bob Cole quote from anyway. We move ahead to
the third overtime period and man, just bananas, Like I
(12:27):
can't even say the sens killed that penalty and then
like Mary and Hossa should have ended this game twice
in the span of about a minute. He gets a
clean breakaway, tries to go five four denied by kujoe
a two to one one goes back the other way
(12:48):
Roberts and Hugland and Roberts like tries to break the
sound barrier with how hard he shoots this. He fires
it wide and it basically goes all the way to
the other end of the ice again, and Hosta, on
a breakaway again tries to go five our Kujo stacks
the pads hair enough.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
On the boards to the corner, probably doesn't move it out.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
He still gives it up. The ros up on them holding.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Us but Robbits nuts hey us some un but that
hard hi.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Shot now here's hop side stop. CRuMs tops up this
in the plater times on one shot, blind to the
nets twice at levels in on Joseph twice. Stunning.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, not the most elegant of saving some of this earlier.
Not the most elegant of saves from Kujo, But I
guess it did the job. And after in a third overtime,
I guess that's really all you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He throws himself at the puck. That's what he does.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, And I mean, hey, it worked. He had a
great career, so fair enough. Who am I say? But
did you have this sort of thought watching this? Like
obviously we did watch this game like we were alive
for it, we remember it, we lived through it. But like,
as a thirtysh year old person who has experienced many
playoff hockey or otherwise moments in bars with large groups
(14:18):
of people, now, did you I kept thinking about, like
what a triple overtime game like this would be like
to watch in like a similar crowd to what we
watched the Raptors in last year, and like the only
thing I can remember the double overtime game against Washington
a few years ago, but like even that one ended
pretty early in the second overtime. Like I just feel
(14:40):
like it would be I feel like this is the
kind of thing that's really fun when you're a kid,
and I feel like now would be.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Sort of a nightmare. You're in this bar for six
hours right here.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, exactly, that's what I mean. And like this is
a seven pm start. This game rebaly ended like one
in the morning.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, I'm sure it was close. I'm sure it was.
Things get a little sloppier. I haven't known here that
teams are just sort of starting to throw stuff at
the net. There's a lot of bodies sort of on
the ice a lot of the time. You can tell
a little bit that the stamina is wearing down and
(15:17):
the exhaustion is starting to wear on.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, I think that, and I think I mean, obviously
it's natural, but there does seem to be a lot
of just like maybe if I throw this at a
weird angle, yes it'll go.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
In which we've seen are a fair share of overtime
goals happened that very way. But that's also sort of
a recipe for the game being never ending is nobody
gets a really good shot and ye go wide and
things don't really end up happening, but something does happen.
(15:51):
Chris Neil and Shane Corson get all tied up. First,
Bob Cole thinks somebody's hurt. He looks over and he's like,
there's a senator on the ice, looks like heels down,
and then they change the camera angle and he's on
top of Shank close.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
See, that's the kind of entertainment you just don't get
from hockey announcers these days. To me advocating for advocating
for old time hockey, except not this really, but kind
of maybe.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Once Cole figures out that it's going to be four
on four hockey, he speaks it into existence. This is
classic veteran guy who has been in sports media forever
and believes he can call gold for they happen. He
goes for it.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He says, this is Bob Cole just wanted to go home. Yeah,
this is him being like I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
I do this all the time when I need games
to end, as you say, this is the shift, this
is the play, and then eventually it happens. He's called this,
it says four on four hockey, this is going to
be it. And then Alex mcgilney coming down the right wing,
a little half clap, a beautiful shot. Lem grabs it
(16:58):
a lot of Maybe this is just how mcgilney shot,
but I feel like l'alim made a lot of low
glove size saves.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
You notice that a lot of shots in this game,
like right off the draws I noticed as well that
ended up his gloves. Was that like a was that
a heavier strategy back then that I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Could be.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
There's like three or four in this game where it's
just like a quick shot like win the draw back
the guy behind you, quick risk shot, and it happens
quite a few times this game. I found it kind
of and you're right, they all are for the most
part low glove saves.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Lelim gets it and freezes it. Although he loved he
loved to throw the puck out with his glove, that's well,
he did that a lot of times in this game.
It's a lot of goalies move in the puck in
this game, but anyway we get a draw. Robert Reichel
wins the draw and who else face off? Lts said
(18:02):
thirty seconds into the third overtime, the free song in
this home, Gary Roberts won the chance this first shut
on all the game, manest the biggest shot.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
How the nights shot Lakes won a three zone.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
And a series.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's time had one of these swalled a night in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Gary Roberts find the back of the net. It's five
fole face. You ever noticed whenever a goalie gets scored
on five four he immediately throws the head back. This
is plastic five fole face from Patrick William. Mayple Leafs win.
The good guys prevail. It is uh four thirty into
the third overtime, may ple Leafs win three two. What
(18:47):
was your reaction in the moment when you were a kid.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh, I would will I can't remember if my parents
were still awake at this point. My dad might have been.
I have a memory of watching this in the basement
of our house, and I have a memory of like
running up and down the stairs. But I could be
conflating with another game. But I feel like that was
my like it was because like this goal too is
like kind of an odd anticlimactic goal in a lot
(19:13):
of ways. It just kind of happens off the draw.
It's just a quick shot and it's over. And so
I feel like there was that moment of like like
the city, like you're sitting down in a chair and
then it's just like it happens and you're up and
running and you don't have to do with yourself. And
then it was also like I got and like this
is also remember like pre texting, pre social media like
(19:38):
ICQ might have been around at this point. I feel
like it's pre even like MSN Messenger and certainly pre laptop.
So it wasn't like you could share it with anyone
when you were a kid. I remember like if you
weren't watching the game with a buddy at the age
I was at, it was kind of like you said
to sort of go nuts by yourself and then like
try to go to bed. Yeah, very very different.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I hadn't thought of that is you don't there was
nowhere to you just maybe you called a friend, but
I didn't do that. You just it's nighttime running around
your house. That's funny.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It's one in the morning. I was thirteen. It's one
in the morning, Like, it's not it's not what you
can do.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
CBC, by the way, kills it with the shots they get.
They do. They get wade red and swearing and doing
a snot rocket.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Good looking man.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, that handsome guy. I hated him.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I hate him.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Had Walter Gretzky with the with the high fives and
the crowd, Ken Dryden going nuts with the fist pumping.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I had forgotten Ken Dryden was in charge of this year.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Until watch.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I completely forgot about that. That's a very good point.
Until that very shot, I was like, oh, yeah, Ken't Dryden?
Yeah involved at all?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
To moderate success, I guess.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, I haven't made a conference final.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I can't remember if he was in charge of ninety nine.
But I mean, May it's more success than the guys
right now have had.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So that's true. That's true. But that does it. That's
mayple leafs win, Gary Roberts the conquering hero basically saving
the maple Leae Bacon here. If they lose this game,
I think that's probably it for the series. Maybe I'm wrong,
because they sort of had some magic voodoo over the Senators,
but boil boy, it would have been tough to come
(21:27):
out of that hole. Two losses at home in the
first two games.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, I feel like maybe in other years, but like
without Sundean, I don't know if they would have really
and like losing triple overtime at home down to no
Matt Sunde. Yeah, it doesn't It certainly doesn't feel like
they would have pushed it to seven like they did.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
If they lose this game, we will look at what
happened the rest of the series as we move forward.
In this series of Sports felt the story time, we
do game three, four, five, six, seven, and and work
our way forward. The very next episode of Sports Fell
the story time Sports the