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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Spycraft, a podcast that tells gripping life and
death spy stories and the amazing devices and operations that
made them possible. Now let's get started, Hey, Robin until.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You can find them on Instagram at Dutch in the USA,
it's Dutch in the USA, Dutch.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And the USA. You can also find them on YouTube
and TikTok.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Got a huge following on your TikTok and if you
go check out any of his social media pages, you
don't know why. He's got some great stuff on situational awareness.
That's what we're going to be talking about today. But
the nein thing about Robin is he also shows you
the stuff that's out there that's not working, stuff that
could be a fraud, stuff that could be scams. So
that can get you into more trouble because if you're
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trying to count on something to save your life and
it doesn't, that's even more problematic. So we'll get into
that conversation in a minute. Make sure to share, subscribe,
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
You know we like it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Let's not waste any more time. Welcome with the show,
Robert Hunting, and welcome sir, Thank you for having me.
Thank you for being here. You don't want to give
you a couples tell as much time as you want,
but to describe a little bit of your background and
what gave you a lot of this knowledge and situational awareness,
because you always.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Want to know what did he know? What kind of
background is here?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
So I started off in a sort of an ROTC
program in the Dutch military where you learn a trade
and then they provide like military affiliation to that. That
was in the Royal Army. I finished that course, it's
about eighteen nineteen months, and then from there my CEO,
the person giving the training, was a Royal Dutch Marine.
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He said, it seems like you have a little bit
more energy. You want to do more. You don't like
to sit around. Would you like to do something else?
I'm like, well, I would love to see what's out there.
And that's how I ended up joining the Royal Dutch Marines,
which in my country's name is Cors Marnes. And from
there met the love in my life who was traveling
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through Europe and we moved through the US after that,
hence the name Dutch.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
And you would say how long were you a Royal Marine?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Quite a while I did two years army and then
five years of the Royal Marines.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, And that's the interesting thing we talked a little
bit before the show. There's a certain skill set that
you learned from there that's helped you a lot in
this in this world.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Let's see, that's who the hell we start off.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What is the number one thing so far that you
remember from your days as a Royal Marine that really
stood out for you when you came back to civilian
life that you said, wow, that really helps a lot
in the civilian life.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
In regards to the situational awareness.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I guess as far as like on a personal note
or something that can be used for everyone, because there's
multiple aspects.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's a good question. How about both of those.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Okay, So as far as like something that personally stuck
out from me and that really helped me be more
successful is no matter how bad your day is in
the military, you get prepared for all kinds of situations
and you're gonna everyone going through boot camp has that
one day that they think of and it's like that
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was your worst day. Nothing nothing worked, nothing went right.
And that's really where I look back and go like, hey,
I'm having a really bad day, but thankfully it's not
as bad as that one day. So I guess the
mindset really really helps, like I can get through this
wherever that's personal mentally, any kind of.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Stress related issues. That really helps.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
And then your overall situational awareness. I guess being the
military gives you a perspective of being open, open minded, like, hey,
we live in a great world, but it's not always
that great, so you can still have a great vision
of the world and enjoy yourself and be aware of
where you are. You talk about a lot in situation awareness,
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like what color codes are we are we green, red, orange, whatever,
And being outside usually means that you're somewhere in that
orange range, right you're you're you're outside. You don't really
know what to expect. Things change easily. So if you're
on that baseline, why not look over your shoulder once
in a while, just to you know, make sure everything
is all right. And that really incorporates and seems to
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be resonating with a lot of my audience. Just these
basic tips, you know, check your vehicle before you get in,
like these small little things that people are like, well,
if I'm not in a bad area, Why would I
think of that? And I'm like, well, you have the
reports on news and people in your car and all
kinds of stuff. Why not do that one simple thing?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Maybe this question.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think we're going to get into something else in
a minute. But am I wrong here? But even if
you're taking a trip to a city you don't know,
you should maybe take a look quickly at the crime rate,
maybe know the bad lots if it's a city you
don't know, even if it's just visiting for a couple
of hours, maybe it's an hour and a half away,
but you haven't been there before, you have no idea
about the city. Is it important to kind of do
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a prep check where you go? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
If you travel, there's a whole bunch of things that
you can do, and it starts with basic stuff like
taking copies of your IDs or important documents, you know,
whatever you have that backed up on your drives or whatever.
But small stuff like that is an crazy hassle if
you lose that. So you ever do get robbed in
these cities and you don't have your copy of your ID,
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try to get back to America. It's almost impossible. You
have to find an embassy. On top of that, you
need the address to the embassy. So all these small
little things that you can, you know, do prior to traveling.
What is the culture there? What is the religion?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Am I going to get looked on if I don't
wear a habbie or you know, there's all kinds of
things that you should consider when traveling, including prime rate.
For those who don't know, Barcelona is the number one
pickpocketing spot in the world. So how do you counter that?
Do you put money in your shoes? Do you wear
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a small man purse over your chest with a jacket
over it so they can't easily get in there. I
traveled to Spain quite a bit. The markets there are amazing,
but we've also had my mom's purse cut open from underneath.
They walk by you, they cut the underside open, everything
drops out and they disappear into the crowd. Things like that.
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It's just important to know what crime is active there
and how seriously do you need to take it. There's
some there's some that have lower threat levels than some
of these other countries.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But what about domestically, I guess what I was thinking about.
In other words, sometimes people get a little too comfortable.
So if you're have you ever been to California? I
don't know if you've ever been out of here.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I have you've been a you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Know what Orange County is to LA. Orange County, I
think it's about an hour away from LA, depending on
where you're coming from obviously where you're going, but let's
say it's an hour and twenty minutes. But I know
people sometimes that have traveled down here when I used
to live down there, They travel down there and it's
an hour and twenty drum minute drive to go over
to some place.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
They've never been to, some city. They don't know anything about.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It, And I'm looking at that, Well, you should probably
look a little bit and see if there's a crime
rate in that area, if there's a protest in that area,
what's going on. So I think sometimes people get a
little complacent because it's, well, you know, it's the same
just county to county.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's California.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But should you also be looking to see what's going
on in that.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Case a little bit.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I mean, you have a little day trip, that's fine.
But if you live just outside bigger cities and you
go towards inner cities, the danger goes up dramatically. For me,
that's close to my home is Miami. The crime rate
in there is much higher than it is where I live.
So it's not a bad idea to kind of check out,
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especially if you're gonna have your car that parked there
for longer periods of time. Do you want to park
indoor outdoor? What are your risk factors? And it doesn't
need to be a three hour search on you know,
what can I do more just the quick breeze of
the city and you know, what is the crime rate?
What should I be looking for? Am I leaving my
bag in the car? Or should I take it or
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put it in the trunk? Like you might not think
of those things when you just do a quick little
stop at a grocery store, leave your little your bag
in the car with your laptop. But if you, you know,
be there longer, then you might want to take it
out or hide it better.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I guess two things made me think about because I
know I talked to my friend earlier before we had
the interview, and he was thinking about going to San Francisco,
and I said, well, where are you going in San Francisco?
And he said, Fisherman's wharf. I said, well, literally, this
morning I was reading that car robberies have gone up
by a three hundred percent in San Francisco and the
fisherman's work, I said, you better, you know, you better
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be careful, know where you're going on that area because
it seems to be going up a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And that's his car robberies. Every other crime has been
going up too.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So he's like, oh, I didn't even know, and I'm
not but I'm not criticizing him in any way. I'm
just saying it seems like so simple, right, you just
go from one city to another city and you don't.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Think about it. But the other thing it made me
think about.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Too is gas because we've seen a lot of videos
of people getting.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Hit at gas stations.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But if you're going on an hour and a half
trip and you just have enough gas barely to get there, yeah,
we know those people.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I find it interesting with gas stations about the robberies
because they have increased their security by a lot, right,
And most people that they use cards, leave their wallets,
they just take a car, do the card in, leave
everything in the car. To have that kind of confidence
to rob someone at a store where you know there's
ten twenty cameras. That's even if you tried to do
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a car jacking, they know exactly where you're going from.
Most gas stations are near you know, we have a
federal highway. I don't know what you and guys have there,
but somewhere close do like the highways or bigger streets
that cops are on left and right. So I don't
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know if people are getting more daring, or if the
pandemic has brought, you know, the disparity for the need
of money or something like that that it raised, But
I feel that a lot of people are getting a
lot more cocky with crimes.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's a great point. If you look at the San
Francisco NYPD tips.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
If you follow those folks on Twitter, I've seen the
exact same thing, especially an uptick of daytime crimes, but
just in the middle of the day they will assault
somebody and steal from them.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It's it's remarkable.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Everything feels far away, right, so everything is, oh, that
doesn't happen to me. That's I've heard that in another city.
But people don't know they're involved in this. Day to
day you go to a seven eleven or whatever store,
there's a bar there that measures your height. People are
starting to forget why we have those things. You know,
obviously technology, you know you have a good indication, but
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it's to indicate what the height is of the Robbert.
So you are involved in this day to day safety
awareness if you want it or not. But some people
seem to be forgetting that, you know, doing a little
debrief of your life or like a quick check of
your own personal safety. That's not for them.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It happens to other people.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
That's true. That's a big booboo. Let me ask you this, Robinson,
what got you onto this kick now?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Because you're doing a lot of good work on your
social media against Dutch in the USA, folks on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube,
running out of social media thing is everywhere. But what
got you on this kind of I ha to say
a kick but it was kind of a focus that
I haven't really seen a lot of other people do.
There are some now who are picking it up, but
you really focus a lot of products that work and
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don't work.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
What got you started on that?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
So the original channel is more like safety tips, how
to escape darc tape, ropes, handcuffs like stuff that would
be involved in kidnappings.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I did.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
A quick scenario based thing where a movie was playing
and I mirrored the movie scene which was breaking out
a zip ties, and that kind of started all of this.
Then as I got bigger, I saw all these school
products that are specifically designed for safety or for personal
benefits whatever, and I'm like, Okay, it's cool. So I
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started with some escape tools for vehicles. So I'm like,
that should be easy, right, You buy these things, you
test them out, and if they work really well, then
we can promote them right for my followers. And then
I went there and I brought like six different products,
and three of them didn't work. But it wasn't just
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that it didn't work. It was that the material they
used was falsely advertised. So they will say hard and steel,
but it was aluminum aluminum. Like the moment I hit
that window, the aluminum tip just bend it in, so
it was just like that pointy sharp thing that's supposed
to break the window gone. And then I'm like, well,
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maybe I'm doing it wrong, so I'm not another one. Well,
I mean it could happen right that someone else does
it right, and I'm just doing this wrong I'm not
reading the instructions, and then when I post that online
it just got worse. They're like, oh, you're not hitting
it at the right angle. You need to hit in
the middle of the window. And I'm like, for those
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who do know, if you're in the driver's seat, the
best place to break the window is in the left corner.
That's where it's most weak.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's proven. Everyone agreed on this, this is the way
to do it.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
And the amount of people responding Okay, now you don't
hit there or you don't do it like that, I'm like,
there's so much misconception over what do you actually do
in these scenarios. So it was fun to test out
this whole series with these products, and you know, I've
reached out to the companies that it did work. I'm like, hey, here,
you have a great video for this, and then a
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great video for you to use. And for the companies
that don't work, we're trying to get them taken down
because you know, if it doesn't work and you're selling
it as life saving tools, that's very Ah, it's dangerous.
It's no longer just I'm trying to sell something. This
is your endangering other people's lives.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
No, absolutely, it's I guess they're banking on nobody's.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Gonna test it, right, I am here.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So you came along and ruined it.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
But we just we just did like seven videos on it,
and there was some really cool stuff, like things I
would have never thought and then there were some really
cool looking things and I'm like, Okay, this one's gonna work.
And then it was a complete like disaster, Like there
was like a part that slammed me into face while
trying to do it, Like, this is not functional at all.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Can you name any of the products that you really
did like there?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
There's a I don't know the brand name, but it
was the brace There was a bracelet with a tungsten
beat on it and basically you take it off, you
spread it, and then you hold it and it breaks
the window and that that worked phenomenal. What I liked
about it is you could keep it on yourself, so
if you're in a car crash or whatever, it stays
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on you, and that that was a nice to know.
There's another one called the Rescue Me Tool, and that
one is like a spring loaded one, but it has
the seatbelt cutter, so you can't have everything. You have
either have this something that's on you all the time,
or you know, like a seatbell cutter in there. Nowadays,
most of the seat belts released once they're in a
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in a car crash. They're easier to pull. You don't
see people cutting them off a lot. But those bracelets
was worth a lot better than I thought. Was really
really like, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I have one of those myself. It's interesting about the
rescuing thing too, because the rescue me I think I
posted a video of somebody who got into.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
A world rage. He used the product on the other
guy's window and rescue me.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
King immediately I'm like count which I totally give him kudos,
and there's like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, that's not the way you're supposed to use this.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
It's good marketing because it works.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, they did free marketing for them.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
What other things have other products? Have you tested about
anything else out there?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Oh, we have a we have a good one coming up.
I got Taser Week coming up. So we bought a
lot of different products because, as you might know, different
tasers work on different volts. The connection points they need
to be you know, high RaSE so and you do
stab someone with the taser gun. It needs to connect
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otherwise it can't, you know, electric you So we're doing
a whole week of testing with what we do, recommend
products that do work, don't work, and then kind of
giving my expertise like, hey, is it intimidating, how does
it look?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
What is this sound like?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
And then we're going to recommend a few that we
feel work for the average person.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's great stuff, good service for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I'm not looking forward to getting stunned.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Though, But are you going to get stunned? Yeah, we
have to test it, right, but you hire somebody for
that one.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Not there yet.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
How about pepper spray? What's your thoughts about pepper spray?
You think it's good. Some people have heard said, nah,
you know it doesn't work as well.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
People say, what do you think.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I'm kind of neutral about it because it does pepper
spray itself. Very rarely will you find one that has
zero effect on someone. Most of the times, the irritation
with the cayenne pepper or whatever irritation irritation agent they
have in there will cause irritation. And how long it
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lasts really depends on the product. You can't really go
wrong with that. I'm sure you can, but there the
general consensus is that it's it's okay. My problem is
more with you know, the user, if it's very windy,
how far are they stand away? You need to be
about three feet in order to deploy it, So some
of your your self defense basics are already limited because
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you have to get so close to use it. But
if you do use it, spray and then step away
because it's an irritate irritation agent. But if I can
still grab someone, or your attacker can still grab you,
you're not gonna win it. So I'm really neutral, Like,
if you understand how you can deploy pepper spray safely
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and you know you're not standing down range where the
wind is blowing your face, absolutely spray run because that's
what it's designed for.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Make sure you're aiming at them. Again, folks, we're talking
to touch in the USA. You find on on Instagram,
TikTok YouTube. Looking at your Instagram brings up a lot
of questions for me, or at least I want to
get people to know if they haven't seen it, some
of the things you cover. So one of the things
you seem to have a theme for a little bit
in regardless of self defense tools, if people sometimes don't
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think about and we'll.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Also talk about the blue nail polish. We'll get to that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
A little bit, but before that, you have keys in
your hands, and you talk about key in hand for
self defense.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Tell us little bit about that.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. So it does seem to
resonate with most people because if you put your keys
between your fingers, if you do not properly put them there,
and you hit with that, and let's say you hit
a shin or a jawline that's pure bone. So if
you have the keys turned into your skin, you're gonna
hurt yourself a lot more than you do that. It
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basically you're taking a half an inch metal and pushing
it into your knuckles. Because that's what you're doing, and
it's not ideal. There's other ways if you have to,
like more of a stabbing maneuver with keys or slashing
like scraping, but they're not ideal.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
The chance that you slash someone that is critically injured
with your keys is a myth. It's I'm not sure
where it came from, but it's not functional, especially knowing
here in America, there's a lot of other self defense
tools that you can legally carry that work much better.
So trying to find some of this like and even me,
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I was like, yeah, you put your keys in your hands,
and that's how you defend yourself. And I'm like, but
do you though, is it really that effective? So and
that's why I kind of try these things out. So
I grabbed a couple of keys and I hit a
wooden board and I'm like, this is very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I don't recommend doing this.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
So that's really where I build my channel on just
these these urban myths or you know, situation things, and
I just try them out see if it works. If
it doesn't, I'll let you know what I think we
should do. But like I said, you have a lot
of other options that are a lot better suited for
cell defense.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
What's your take on using an open hand compared to
a closed fist. I think I get your I think
I got where you're going with this one.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
But what's your take?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I do know where you're going, so.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
It I find it much easier to defend myself with
open hands because that's probably your stand is going to
be anyway, right, your hands are like raised just above
your chest, and.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You can.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
You know, you can deflect, and if you're lucky enough,
you can even grab and then do all kinds of
crazy stuff in cell defense. What I like about it
is an entire force of your your risks all the
way down to your elbow. Plus some of the most
dangerous acts that you can do and sell defense is
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open hand throat. So an open hand to the throat
with your thumb and your index finger around their neck
is very very effective. Not a lot of people can
fight through not having air, and that's really what it does.
So it really depends like there's great people that can
fight with their knuckles closed, but there's some very effective
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ones with your hand open, and that probably leads you
to your next point with the nail pall.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No, actually, just before the nail pology is now remind
me of Tony Blauer system, the spear system you familiar. No,
I'm not, okay, I don't want to bother basking about
that because he teaches he's got a spear system.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
He's been teaching here in the US for years. But
he says exactly like you said, everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Starts off, but he makes this actually a defensive maneuver
where you position yourself and then you would block and
strike with the open hand.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Oh yeah, yes, that was really clever.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
It's kind of what you're probably gonna do anyway.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Right there.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
There's hopefully there's another fighting style and I can't think
of the name, but basically they use your first reaction
as the first step of defense. So in his case,
you you kind of squat down, like you position yourself,
you put your hands above your head, and that's your
first move. So someone does anything, you go into that
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defensive stand and then from there you start fighting, which
I thought was interesting because it was a new style
I was trying to participate in. But at the same time,
I'm like, for people that don't do sell defense things
day to day, that's exactly what they will probably do.
They drop down, put their hands up because they don't
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want to hurt, and then from there you learn.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
How to fight, which I thought was interesting. I saw
benefits to it, definitely.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, absolutely, So what going on with the blue paint
nails is I think I think I got a big
stink on Instagram for a while.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
So it really came down to multiple things. So at first,
like a few months ago, I did how to make
a proper fist, So how do you make a proper
fist to fight someone? So like rolling the fingers, put
in your thumb right here to really have the best
impact and not hurt yourself while making a fist. A
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lot of my followers are female, and they said, well,
I have acrelic nails.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
How do you do that? So I was kind of thinking.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
About what we could do, how I could show it.
And then there was another video of someone telling me
if they would kidnap someone, they would simply give the
man a full set of acrelic nails and he would
not be able to open doors, pick locks, whatever. So
then it became interesting. I'm like, I want to use
her audio and I'm going to do all the things
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she describes that men can do with these nails on
while having a full set of acrelic nail So I
went to my local nails shop. I got a lot
of weird looks and like, I want acrylic nails. I
want them about this big. And I sat there for
two hours and you know, had them fully. I didn't
know at that point, but I guess they did a
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dip instead of like just an acrylic like sticky on there,
so they had like layers of glue on there. And
I actually still it's been like three and a half weeks,
I still have a small piece of blue nil that
I can I get off right here. And then I
did the video. I did about four or five videos
on the subject that showed you that you can still pick,
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you know, handcuffs and how to throw a punch. Some
of the people say you can still put your fingers
down and then put your thumb. Now they're technically correct,
but you have an entire gap right here, so if
you hit something, it hurts. Second of all, if you
try to do this, my immediate reaction is to do
it like this because it's very hard to have your
(25:59):
fingers the way down and crawl your thumb over your
fingers like that. So what happens is people say this,
but what you're most likely going to do is once
you hit something, you're going to break this entire nail
and maybe even your thumb because this is this fast
reaction is what you do. So what I said is
you can either do it in you do it like that,
you croll in your top fingers and you kind of
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make them straight or you keep an open hand and
you strike with your palm, a strike, bump on your chin, eyes,
the front of your chin, your neck. That is all
very effective to defend yourself. And it doesn't require you
to break your nails. Because my wife thought it was funny.
She pulled my nail and she bended it the other
(26:42):
way and I thought I was dying. So hitting something
and then breaking your nails is not very very pleasant.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, it's something you play. It never would have experienced
without trying. That's interesting, fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Folks. Again too, if you see a website.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I'm looking on his Instagram account right now and you
can see one of the things I like about he's got.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Hollywood versus reality.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And if you've been listening to my show, I don't
want to criticize Holly, but there's a pet peeve of
mine because they give they give a lot of misconceptions
of what was what reality is, and people seem to
think they can do certain things when you can't, or
certain things work when they don't. And that's why I
really like Dutch in the USA, because he puts it
to the test. Anything that really surprised you in your
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Hollywood versus reality videos that you said.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Well, I thought this could have worked, but really didn't.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
There was a scene from a movie from Densil, Washington
where a young lady is zip side to the steering wheel,
and that that just blew my mind. Not obviously, it's
a movie, right, so I'm not going to put too
much effort into it. But in this scenario, she had
(27:54):
trouble reaching the steering wheel, and I looked at the
zip diyes, I analyzed it, and I zipped out myself
the steering wheel. I had no problem getting to my
keys and start the ignition. And then on top of that,
the width of those zip ties. All you have to
do is tie them with the other hand because you
can still reach and kind of just hold the steering
wheel and move up like you're gonna just move your
(28:16):
arms all the way up. And it broke very, very easily.
But in the movie, it's like a whole big scene
and you know, Denzel is about to die and she
has to step in and drive over this bad guy,
and I'm like, this could have been like a two
second scene and we could have been done with it.
So yeah, there's that, and then there's a lot of
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zip ties, duct tape and that kind of stuff. It's
all plastic, right, if you break it down, it's plastic
and they have melting points. So most of the time
you see people in basements or somewhere on the floor,
the concrete floor. All of that can generate heat as
long as you move them from left to right over
the floor. So it's actually very easy to escape those things,
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but they make it seem like it's impossible that only
you know, James Bond can get out of it.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
That's the thing about it.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Unfortunately, certain parts of the world have kidnapping issues. There's
certain high risk environments that have a lot well.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
You see it right now in Haiti there there's an
uptake in and not just people that come to visit,
like the the higher elite of the country is being
targeted as well. I mean it's everywhere big. Yeah, it's
money there. There's money and kidnappings and not just there.
For corporate America, there's a lot of ransom insurances. If
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someone gets a company list of these ransom insurances, they
can literally pick and choose and they pay out immediately
to release because that's what the insurance is for.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
So there's a whole.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
I would say, if you want good security in your company,
you might want to have to look at your insurance
company that does these policies, because if they get a
list of names of people that are ensured for that,
it gets very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Let me ask you this. This could be a tough question,
I think, so I understand if you can't. But what
are some of the biggest misconceptions you think in the
situational awareness world that you say, man, this can put
a lot of people in danger or really doesn't help,
or anything that stands out to you. I know there's
probably several out there, maybe one that you see over
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and over again and you think, wow, this one always happens.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I think it's people do not understand that they have value.
And I'm not talking about value in a relationship or
your work, but value as a physical being, meaning your organs,
your color of your skin. If you travel to certain countries,
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the color of your skin indicates to the people surrounding
it that you might be better off than they think.
You might not have any money at all and you're
doing a gap year or whatever, but if they see
you as being wealthy, they will take you. And having
that awareness comes down to like knowing where you're going
to travel and looking up certain rules. But I think
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a lot of people do not realize the value they
have because they think, well, I'm not rich, but they
don't know that the people that are targeting you do
not know that you don't have any money. You come
into another country and you have a fit a certain
character they're looking for. Maybe you even get picked up
by it by a nice car. Because I know you're
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doing business in a hotel and you might be mid
level manager. It doesn't matter to them. They think, oh,
he's coming for a company, means insurance. You know, there's
a lot of things, and people need to be much
more aware of their own value of their physical being.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I know we only got a few more minutes left,
you know, Robin, we're just talking before the show. You're
originally Halloween and made some great points. Tell us a
little bit about Halloween. What people should be prepared for.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Yeah, I'm doing some videos. Obviously Halloween is coming up.
So one of the things that you should be looking
for is understand that there's people that do not participate
in Halloween because they can't think of sex offenders so
when you walk through your neighborhood, I'm not saying all
of them are, but a good point is to not
knock on doors that don't have their lights on. You know,
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people that participate in Halloween, at least where I'm from,
they have their lights on, or they change the bulb
into a color that kids can come by, or have decorations.
Your local authorities will actually make an effort and do
stops throughout Halloween, before and after with these registered sex offenders.
Or you can look at your own registry. There's a
you can go online and type your address and you
(32:58):
can find the people that live in communities that are
registered sex offenders and avoid those places obviously. But yeah,
not everyone that turns their light off for Halloween is
a voluntary non participant.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I would say that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I know my background is criminal psychopathology, So people don't
realize a lot of times pedophiles.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Sometimes people don't realize they're working in professions if they
can to get in contact with children, and this is
why we see some of these stories. Sometimes Boy Scout
leaders things of that nature. And again the majority of
Boy Scout leaders are not but pedophiles will look for those.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Opportunities to the real lifestyle, right, they embed themselves in
places where it's most easiest to get you know what
they're after exactly. So, Yeah, it's a day. It's scary
as a parent. I it's hard to navigate waters like that,
especially if they live in your own neighborhoods and stuff.
You know, the people you met, the neighbors you have
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might not always be who you thought they were.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
That's absolutely true, especially if you're working out of Hell.
If you live here in park and you tickets showing
to the park, scan that area.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Absolutely some of the urban myths on that is also
what I do with my kids, and I don't really
know if it's a myth. It's definitely a good idea regardless.
So after they do the trick or treating, to scan
your kids candy after they come back. We've heard the
horror stories of that they put razor blades in there
(34:33):
and stuff. I don't know if that's true. I didn't
really find much online, but regardless, it's a good tip.
Empty it out, see if there's any open packages. Especially
it's not just about safety, but it's also with COVID nowadays,
if people have open packages in there stuff like that,
it's definitely a good idea to just do a quick
sweep of the candy day collect and make sure that
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everything is kosher.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's funny you mention that because I just did a
podcast on it. Whether it's myth or not about the
razor blade?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
What did you find?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
The razor blades was a myth until twenty nineteen when
somebody actually decided to try it.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Luckily, they thought it became real because it was a
myth and he acted on it.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What's more than likely this is when you happened, is
somebody try, well, you know what, shoot, let's be the first,
I guess or whatever he was doing the worst case syndic.
There was five deaths for children. None of them were
ever associated with the candy. There was one prankster. It
was a dentist. I don't know what his deal was,
Like thirty years ago he decided to put x lax
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into like Hershey kisses, So.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I don't know what that deal was, and he was
upset at something. I guess. That's about as bad as
I've heard.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Because it's his business. Right, kids eat candy, they come
back to him.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
For business.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Maybe they weren't eating enough candy in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
That was probably the strangest when I've heard, but thankfully
nobody has taken.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It to the extreme.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yeah, but regardless that that thing that tips stays. You know,
you deal with so many different doors, and then it's
always a good idea to check what your kids are ingesting.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Absolutely great stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I know, we only have a few more minutes left
with you. Dutch in the USA on Instagram, Dutch in
the USA on TikTok, and I think he's already reached
over a million followers over on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
He's over on how.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Much point one?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Four point one?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, holy cow, because you were at one point oh
in November of last year.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah wow, so you quadrupled, Holy cat. My apologies.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So four point one million on TikTok and one hundred
and sixty four thousand on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
So yeah, a few people know.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Dutch. This area is so long, and we could literally
be here till the next eight hours and still not
cover everything on situational awareness.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Agreed, what are you coming up with in the next
couple of weeks?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
We could be people can get started looking for your
channels and start focusing on it.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
So right now we have I'm doing like weeks of
scheduled content. So we have the Taser Week coming up.
I'm doing a week on kids and baby safety, like doors,
sleeping arrangement, all kinds of stuff there.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Let me think there was one more.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
The holiday hazards are coming out, which is like everyone
is doing like Christmas decorations. But I've seen some interesting
configurations of electricity in the past, and not a lot
of people own a fire exiting which you are in
a house anymore, So don't have a few of those
holiday hazards. I'm pretty I was pretty I wouldn't say dumb,
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but I was pretty ignorant about the fire hazards until
I started like digging and how I do my Christmas lights.
Now I'm trying to do as best as I can
and making sure that everything is set and that I
have no fire hazards, especially now I have young children.
Just want to make sure I do it right, and
I thought that the world would want to know as well.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I'm gonna put two requests and then ask you a
strange question at the end. But two requests, maybe you
can do one on lift. They just came out with
their report about sexual assaults on lift. I think it
was four thousand in the last year writers. That could
be an interesting one. I can protect yourself, so sometimes
people tell them watch out for the door locks and
things of that nature. And then my other request would
(38:23):
be maybe shopping, because I've seen a lot of people
that come out and they'll have bags with both arms.
You know, Yeah, the robber is gonna say, this is
a good one.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Did you do that one? Yeah, yeah, I did. I
did shopping.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
I've done one on Uber like Uber safety what a
check for I have another one coming up, which is
kind of like a man week where I always address
what you can do, but never address who is doing
the harm right, And it's not it's not the man
or the man in general, it's specific people that do
these gruns. But with a channel as big as mine,
(38:59):
I think it's time that I can, you know, talk
to all the men and see, you know, how can
can we make sure that the people that are feeling
these ways, the feeling unsafe? What can we do? Is
there something that we're doing right now that we're just
not unaware aware of what we're doing. And then as
far as the shopping, I've done a few you might
(39:22):
not know, but I'm expecting a third baby in December,
so I can now try to shop with three kids.
And I'll tell you to save this way how I
can make that happen. It was a request from a
video I did with my two children, so we just
had to add one on to do with three. And
then yeah, lift lift, And there's actually quite a few
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reports people getting into cars that they think are lifts
because it's the description. There was just a big case
not too long ago about someone getting into the wrong
car and did not make it out of that car.
So yeah, it's definite. Definitely there's some great tips to
be provided there.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Absolutely. Like we said, right, this is never ending. You
have plenty of material for a long time.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
My last question is I have some friends who live
in Florida as well.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
How's Christmas in Florida?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Because I always ask, you know, you don't have the snow,
it's not really cold.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Is it different than Holland?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
So like you said, we don't have snow, but neither
do we in Holland.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
That the snow hasn't been really there for years.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Maybe a little snow storm here and there, but very
minimal compared to New York City or one of the
colder cities.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
But we love it here in Florida. It's about sixty.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Sixty sixty five in the winter, so you get a
little bit of the cold breeze. I say cold, but
sixty is cold for us. And then maybe you have
a day where it drops the forty five and you
get to wear that one sweater you own, and then
you know. Christmas is very big here, probably because all
the people from New York moved here and brought that
(41:04):
with them. So we do do big Christmases. And what
we like to do is take the kids through like
an entire there's one street where we live where they do.
They go all out. The whole block is like beautiful.
So we like to do that and we like to participate.
I love Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Oh that's cool because I know my friend taunts me
a lot of your words, Christmas Santa hat and a
T shirt and shorts.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I'll send you a picture from the beach next weekend.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
You go, don't forget this, Well, it's not Santa claus
Y again. Folks Dutch in the USA can find out
on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Robert, thank you so much for taking the time out.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Thank you so much, sir.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
That was awesome stuff. We wish you the best of luck.
Make sure you follow him wherever he's at. He's really
got some great stuff, folks, so make sure you check
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Welcome to Spycraft, a podcast that tells gripping life and
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
You can find them on Instagram at Dutch in the USA,
it's Dutch in the USA, Dutch.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And the USA. You can also find them on YouTube
and TikTok.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Got a huge following on your TikTok and if you
go check out any of his social media pages, you
don't know why. He's got some great stuff on situational awareness.
That's what we're going to be talking about today. But
the nein thing about Robin is he also shows you
the stuff that's out there that's not working, stuff that
could be a fraud, stuff that could be scams. So
that can get you into more trouble because if you're
(00:50):
trying to count on something to save your life and
it doesn't, that's even more problematic. So we'll get into
that conversation in a minute. Make sure to share, subscribe,
hit that like button.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You know we like it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Let's not waste any more time. Welcome with the show,
Robert Hunting, and welcome sir, Thank you for having me.
Thank you for being here. You don't want to give
you a couples tell as much time as you want,
but to describe a little bit of your background and
what gave you a lot of this knowledge and situational awareness,
because you always.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Want to know what did he know? What kind of
background is here?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
So I started off in a sort of an ROTC
program in the Dutch military where you learn a trade
and then they provide like military affiliation to that. That
was in the Royal Army. I finished that course, it's
about eighteen nineteen months, and then from there my CEO,
the person giving the training, was a Royal Dutch Marine.
(01:43):
He said, it seems like you have a little bit
more energy. You want to do more. You don't like
to sit around. Would you like to do something else?
I'm like, well, I would love to see what's out there.
And that's how I ended up joining the Royal Dutch Marines,
which in my country's name is Cors Marnes. And from
there met the love in my life who was traveling
(02:04):
through Europe and we moved through the US after that,
hence the name Dutch.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
And you would say how long were you a Royal Marine?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Quite a while I did two years army and then
five years of the Royal Marines.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, And that's the interesting thing we talked a little
bit before the show. There's a certain skill set that
you learned from there that's helped you a lot in
this in this world.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Let's see, that's who the hell we start off.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
What is the number one thing so far that you
remember from your days as a Royal Marine that really
stood out for you when you came back to civilian
life that you said, wow, that really helps a lot
in the civilian life.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
In regards to the situational awareness.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
I guess as far as like on a personal note
or something that can be used for everyone, because there's
multiple aspects.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's a good question. How about both of those.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Okay, So as far as like something that personally stuck
out from me and that really helped me be more
successful is no matter how bad your day is in
the military, you get prepared for all kinds of situations
and you're gonna everyone going through boot camp has that
one day that they think of and it's like that
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was your worst day. Nothing nothing worked, nothing went right.
And that's really where I look back and go like, hey,
I'm having a really bad day, but thankfully it's not
as bad as that one day. So I guess the
mindset really really helps, like I can get through this
wherever that's personal mentally, any kind of.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Stress related issues. That really helps.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
And then your overall situational awareness. I guess being the
military gives you a perspective of being open, open minded, like, hey,
we live in a great world, but it's not always
that great, so you can still have a great vision
of the world and enjoy yourself and be aware of
where you are. You talk about a lot in situation awareness,
(04:00):
like what color codes are we are we green, red, orange, whatever,
And being outside usually means that you're somewhere in that
orange range, right you're you're you're outside. You don't really
know what to expect. Things change easily. So if you're
on that baseline, why not look over your shoulder once
in a while, just to you know, make sure everything
is all right. And that really incorporates and seems to
(04:22):
be resonating with a lot of my audience. Just these
basic tips, you know, check your vehicle before you get in,
like these small little things that people are like, well,
if I'm not in a bad area, Why would I
think of that? And I'm like, well, you have the
reports on news and people in your car and all
kinds of stuff. Why not do that one simple thing?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Maybe this question.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think we're going to get into something else in
a minute. But am I wrong here? But even if
you're taking a trip to a city you don't know,
you should maybe take a look quickly at the crime rate,
maybe know the bad lots if it's a city you
don't know, even if it's just visiting for a couple
of hours, maybe it's an hour and a half away,
but you haven't been there before, you have no idea
about the city. Is it important to kind of do
(05:09):
a prep check where you go? Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
If you travel, there's a whole bunch of things that
you can do, and it starts with basic stuff like
taking copies of your IDs or important documents, you know,
whatever you have that backed up on your drives or whatever.
But small stuff like that is an crazy hassle if
you lose that. So you ever do get robbed in
these cities and you don't have your copy of your ID,
(05:34):
try to get back to America. It's almost impossible. You
have to find an embassy. On top of that, you
need the address to the embassy. So all these small
little things that you can, you know, do prior to traveling.
What is the culture there? What is the religion?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Am I?
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Am I going to get looked on if I don't
wear a habbie or you know, there's all kinds of
things that you should consider when traveling, including prime rate.
For those who don't know, Barcelona is the number one
pickpocketing spot in the world. So how do you counter that?
Do you put money in your shoes? Do you wear
(06:10):
a small man purse over your chest with a jacket
over it so they can't easily get in there. I
traveled to Spain quite a bit. The markets there are amazing,
but we've also had my mom's purse cut open from underneath.
They walk by you, they cut the underside open, everything
drops out and they disappear into the crowd. Things like that.
(06:33):
It's just important to know what crime is active there
and how seriously do you need to take it. There's
some there's some that have lower threat levels than some
of these other countries.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
But what about domestically, I guess what I was thinking about.
In other words, sometimes people get a little too comfortable.
So if you're have you ever been to California? I
don't know if you've ever been out of here.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I have you've been a you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Know what Orange County is to LA. Orange County, I
think it's about an hour away from LA, depending on
where you're coming from obviously where you're going, but let's
say it's an hour and twenty minutes. But I know
people sometimes that have traveled down here when I used
to live down there, They travel down there and it's
an hour and twenty drum minute drive to go over
to some place.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
They've never been to, some city. They don't know anything about.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
It, And I'm looking at that, Well, you should probably
look a little bit and see if there's a crime
rate in that area, if there's a protest in that area,
what's going on. So I think sometimes people get a
little complacent because it's, well, you know, it's the same
just county to county.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's California.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But should you also be looking to see what's going
on in that.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Case a little bit.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I mean, you have a little day trip, that's fine.
But if you live just outside bigger cities and you
go towards inner cities, the danger goes up dramatically. For me,
that's close to my home is Miami. The crime rate
in there is much higher than it is where I live.
So it's not a bad idea to kind of check out,
(07:58):
especially if you're gonna have your car that parked there
for longer periods of time. Do you want to park
indoor outdoor? What are your risk factors? And it doesn't
need to be a three hour search on you know,
what can I do more just the quick breeze of
the city and you know, what is the crime rate?
What should I be looking for? Am I leaving my
bag in the car? Or should I take it or
(08:19):
put it in the trunk? Like you might not think
of those things when you just do a quick little
stop at a grocery store, leave your little your bag
in the car with your laptop. But if you, you know,
be there longer, then you might want to take it
out or hide it better.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I guess two things made me think about because I
know I talked to my friend earlier before we had
the interview, and he was thinking about going to San Francisco,
and I said, well, where are you going in San Francisco?
And he said, Fisherman's wharf. I said, well, literally, this
morning I was reading that car robberies have gone up
by a three hundred percent in San Francisco and the
fisherman's work, I said, you better, you know, you better
(08:53):
be careful, know where you're going on that area because
it seems to be going up a lot.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And that's his car robberies. Every other crime has been
going up too.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So he's like, oh, I didn't even know, and I'm
not but I'm not criticizing him in any way. I'm
just saying it seems like so simple, right, you just
go from one city to another city and you don't.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Think about it. But the other thing it made me
think about.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Too is gas because we've seen a lot of videos
of people getting.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Hit at gas stations.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
But if you're going on an hour and a half
trip and you just have enough gas barely to get there, yeah,
we know those people.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I find it interesting with gas stations about the robberies
because they have increased their security by a lot, right,
And most people that they use cards, leave their wallets,
they just take a car, do the card in, leave
everything in the car. To have that kind of confidence
to rob someone at a store where you know there's
ten twenty cameras. That's even if you tried to do
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a car jacking, they know exactly where you're going from.
Most gas stations are near you know, we have a
federal highway. I don't know what you and guys have there,
but somewhere close do like the highways or bigger streets
that cops are on left and right. So I don't
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know if people are getting more daring, or if the
pandemic has brought, you know, the disparity for the need
of money or something like that that it raised, But
I feel that a lot of people are getting a
lot more cocky with crimes.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
That's a great point. If you look at the San
Francisco NYPD tips.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
If you follow those folks on Twitter, I've seen the
exact same thing, especially an uptick of daytime crimes, but
just in the middle of the day they will assault
somebody and steal from them.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
It's it's remarkable.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Everything feels far away, right, so everything is, oh, that
doesn't happen to me. That's I've heard that in another city.
But people don't know they're involved in this. Day to
day you go to a seven eleven or whatever store,
there's a bar there that measures your height. People are
starting to forget why we have those things. You know,
obviously technology, you know you have a good indication, but
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it's to indicate what the height is of the Robbert.
So you are involved in this day to day safety
awareness if you want it or not. But some people
seem to be forgetting that, you know, doing a little
debrief of your life or like a quick check of
your own personal safety. That's not for them.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
It happens to other people.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
That's true. That's a big booboo. Let me ask you this, Robinson,
what got you onto this kick now?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Because you're doing a lot of good work on your
social media against Dutch in the USA, folks on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube,
running out of social media thing is everywhere. But what
got you on this kind of I ha to say
a kick but it was kind of a focus that
I haven't really seen a lot of other people do.
There are some now who are picking it up, but
you really focus a lot of products that work and
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don't work.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
What got you started on that?
Speaker 5 (11:57):
So the original channel is more like safety tips, how
to escape darc tape, ropes, handcuffs like stuff that would
be involved in kidnappings.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I did.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
A quick scenario based thing where a movie was playing
and I mirrored the movie scene which was breaking out
a zip ties, and that kind of started all of this.
Then as I got bigger, I saw all these school
products that are specifically designed for safety or for personal
benefits whatever, and I'm like, Okay, it's cool. So I
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started with some escape tools for vehicles. So I'm like,
that should be easy, right, You buy these things, you
test them out, and if they work really well, then
we can promote them right for my followers. And then
I went there and I brought like six different products,
and three of them didn't work. But it wasn't just
(12:51):
that it didn't work. It was that the material they
used was falsely advertised. So they will say hard and steel,
but it was aluminum aluminum. Like the moment I hit
that window, the aluminum tip just bend it in, so
it was just like that pointy sharp thing that's supposed
to break the window gone. And then I'm like, well,
(13:15):
maybe I'm doing it wrong, so I'm not another one. Well,
I mean it could happen right that someone else does
it right, and I'm just doing this wrong I'm not
reading the instructions, and then when I post that online
it just got worse. They're like, oh, you're not hitting
it at the right angle. You need to hit in
the middle of the window. And I'm like, for those
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who do know, if you're in the driver's seat, the
best place to break the window is in the left corner.
That's where it's most weak.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's proven. Everyone agreed on this, this is the way
to do it.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
And the amount of people responding Okay, now you don't
hit there or you don't do it like that, I'm like,
there's so much misconception over what do you actually do
in these scenarios. So it was fun to test out
this whole series with these products, and you know, I've
reached out to the companies that it did work. I'm like, hey, here,
you have a great video for this, and then a
(14:12):
great video for you to use. And for the companies
that don't work, we're trying to get them taken down
because you know, if it doesn't work and you're selling
it as life saving tools, that's very Ah, it's dangerous.
It's no longer just I'm trying to sell something. This
is your endangering other people's lives.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
No, absolutely, it's I guess they're banking on nobody's.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Gonna test it, right, I am here.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So you came along and ruined it.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
But we just we just did like seven videos on it,
and there was some really cool stuff, like things I
would have never thought and then there were some really
cool looking things and I'm like, Okay, this one's gonna work.
And then it was a complete like disaster, Like there
was like a part that slammed me into face while
trying to do it, Like, this is not functional at all.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Can you name any of the products that you really
did like there?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
There's a I don't know the brand name, but it
was the brace There was a bracelet with a tungsten
beat on it and basically you take it off, you
spread it, and then you hold it and it breaks
the window and that that worked phenomenal. What I liked
about it is you could keep it on yourself, so
if you're in a car crash or whatever, it stays
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on you, and that that was a nice to know.
There's another one called the Rescue Me Tool, and that
one is like a spring loaded one, but it has
the seatbelt cutter, so you can't have everything. You have
either have this something that's on you all the time,
or you know, like a seatbell cutter in there. Nowadays,
most of the seat belts released once they're in a
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in a car crash. They're easier to pull. You don't
see people cutting them off a lot. But those bracelets
was worth a lot better than I thought. Was really
really like, that's fun.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I have one of those myself. It's interesting about the
rescuing thing too, because the rescue me I think I
posted a video of somebody who got into.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
A world rage. He used the product on the other
guy's window and rescue me.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
King immediately I'm like count which I totally give him kudos,
and there's like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
No, that's not the way you're supposed to use this.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
It's good marketing because it works.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Definitely.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, they did free marketing for them.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
What other things have other products? Have you tested about
anything else out there?
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Oh, we have a we have a good one coming up.
I got Taser Week coming up. So we bought a
lot of different products because, as you might know, different
tasers work on different volts. The connection points they need
to be you know, high RaSE so and you do
stab someone with the taser gun. It needs to connect
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otherwise it can't, you know, electric you So we're doing
a whole week of testing with what we do, recommend
products that do work, don't work, and then kind of
giving my expertise like, hey, is it intimidating, how does
it look?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
What is this sound like?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
And then we're going to recommend a few that we
feel work for the average person.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
That's great stuff, good service for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I'm not looking forward to getting stunned.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Though, But are you going to get stunned? Yeah, we
have to test it, right, but you hire somebody for
that one.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Not there yet.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
How about pepper spray? What's your thoughts about pepper spray?
You think it's good. Some people have heard said, nah,
you know it doesn't work as well.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
People say, what do you think.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I'm kind of neutral about it because it does pepper
spray itself. Very rarely will you find one that has
zero effect on someone. Most of the times, the irritation
with the cayenne pepper or whatever irritation irritation agent they
have in there will cause irritation. And how long it
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lasts really depends on the product. You can't really go
wrong with that. I'm sure you can, but there the
general consensus is that it's it's okay. My problem is
more with you know, the user, if it's very windy,
how far are they stand away? You need to be
about three feet in order to deploy it, So some
of your your self defense basics are already limited because
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you have to get so close to use it. But
if you do use it, spray and then step away
because it's an irritate irritation agent. But if I can
still grab someone, or your attacker can still grab you,
you're not gonna win it. So I'm really neutral, Like,
if you understand how you can deploy pepper spray safely
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and you know you're not standing down range where the
wind is blowing your face, absolutely spray run because that's
what it's designed for.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Make sure you're aiming at them. Again, folks, we're talking
to touch in the USA. You find on on Instagram,
TikTok YouTube. Looking at your Instagram brings up a lot
of questions for me, or at least I want to
get people to know if they haven't seen it, some
of the things you cover. So one of the things
you seem to have a theme for a little bit
in regardless of self defense tools, if people sometimes don't
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think about and we'll.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Also talk about the blue nail polish. We'll get to that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
A little bit, but before that, you have keys in
your hands, and you talk about key in hand for
self defense.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Tell us little bit about that.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. So it does seem to
resonate with most people because if you put your keys
between your fingers, if you do not properly put them there,
and you hit with that, and let's say you hit
a shin or a jawline that's pure bone. So if
you have the keys turned into your skin, you're gonna
hurt yourself a lot more than you do that. It
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basically you're taking a half an inch metal and pushing
it into your knuckles. Because that's what you're doing, and
it's not ideal. There's other ways if you have to,
like more of a stabbing maneuver with keys or slashing
like scraping, but they're not ideal.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
The chance that you slash someone that is critically injured
with your keys is a myth. It's I'm not sure
where it came from, but it's not functional, especially knowing
here in America, there's a lot of other self defense
tools that you can legally carry that work much better.
So trying to find some of this like and even me,
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I was like, yeah, you put your keys in your hands,
and that's how you defend yourself. And I'm like, but
do you though, is it really that effective? So and
that's why I kind of try these things out. So
I grabbed a couple of keys and I hit a
wooden board and I'm like, this is very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I don't recommend doing this.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
So that's really where I build my channel on just
these these urban myths or you know, situation things, and
I just try them out see if it works. If
it doesn't, I'll let you know what I think we
should do. But like I said, you have a lot
of other options that are a lot better suited for
cell defense.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
What's your take on using an open hand compared to
a closed fist. I think I get your I think
I got where you're going with this one.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
But what's your take?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I do know where you're going, so.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
It I find it much easier to defend myself with
open hands because that's probably your stand is going to
be anyway, right, your hands are like raised just above
your chest, and.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
You can.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
You know, you can deflect, and if you're lucky enough,
you can even grab and then do all kinds of
crazy stuff in cell defense. What I like about it
is an entire force of your your risks all the
way down to your elbow. Plus some of the most
dangerous acts that you can do and sell defense is
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open hand throat. So an open hand to the throat
with your thumb and your index finger around their neck
is very very effective. Not a lot of people can
fight through not having air, and that's really what it does.
So it really depends like there's great people that can
fight with their knuckles closed, but there's some very effective
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ones with your hand open, and that probably leads you
to your next point with the nail pall.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No, actually, just before the nail pology is now remind
me of Tony Blauer system, the spear system you familiar. No,
I'm not, okay, I don't want to bother basking about
that because he teaches he's got a spear system.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
He's been teaching here in the US for years. But
he says exactly like you said, everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Starts off, but he makes this actually a defensive maneuver
where you position yourself and then you would block and
strike with the open hand.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Oh yeah, yes, that was really clever.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
It's kind of what you're probably gonna do anyway.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Right there.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
There's hopefully there's another fighting style and I can't think
of the name, but basically they use your first reaction
as the first step of defense. So in his case,
you you kind of squat down, like you position yourself,
you put your hands above your head, and that's your
first move. So someone does anything, you go into that
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defensive stand and then from there you start fighting, which
I thought was interesting because it was a new style
I was trying to participate in. But at the same time,
I'm like, for people that don't do sell defense things
day to day, that's exactly what they will probably do.
They drop down, put their hands up because they don't
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want to hurt, and then from there you learn.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
How to fight, which I thought was interesting. I saw
benefits to it, definitely.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, absolutely, So what going on with the blue paint
nails is I think I think I got a big
stink on Instagram for a while.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
So it really came down to multiple things. So at first,
like a few months ago, I did how to make
a proper fist, So how do you make a proper
fist to fight someone? So like rolling the fingers, put
in your thumb right here to really have the best
impact and not hurt yourself while making a fist. A
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lot of my followers are female, and they said, well,
I have acrelic nails.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
How do you do that? So I was kind of thinking.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
About what we could do, how I could show it.
And then there was another video of someone telling me
if they would kidnap someone, they would simply give the
man a full set of acrelic nails and he would
not be able to open doors, pick locks, whatever. So
then it became interesting. I'm like, I want to use
her audio and I'm going to do all the things
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she describes that men can do with these nails on
while having a full set of acrelic nail So I
went to my local nails shop. I got a lot
of weird looks and like, I want acrylic nails. I
want them about this big. And I sat there for
two hours and you know, had them fully. I didn't
know at that point, but I guess they did a
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dip instead of like just an acrylic like sticky on there,
so they had like layers of glue on there. And
I actually still it's been like three and a half weeks,
I still have a small piece of blue nil that
I can I get off right here. And then I
did the video. I did about four or five videos
on the subject that showed you that you can still pick,
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you know, handcuffs and how to throw a punch. Some
of the people say you can still put your fingers
down and then put your thumb. Now they're technically correct,
but you have an entire gap right here, so if
you hit something, it hurts. Second of all, if you
try to do this, my immediate reaction is to do
it like this because it's very hard to have your
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fingers the way down and crawl your thumb over your
fingers like that. So what happens is people say this,
but what you're most likely going to do is once
you hit something, you're going to break this entire nail
and maybe even your thumb because this is this fast
reaction is what you do. So what I said is
you can either do it in you do it like that,
you croll in your top fingers and you kind of
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make them straight or you keep an open hand and
you strike with your palm, a strike, bump on your chin, eyes,
the front of your chin, your neck. That is all
very effective to defend yourself. And it doesn't require you
to break your nails. Because my wife thought it was funny.
She pulled my nail and she bended it the other
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way and I thought I was dying. So hitting something
and then breaking your nails is not very very pleasant.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, it's something you play. It never would have experienced
without trying. That's interesting, fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Folks. Again too, if you see a website.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I'm looking on his Instagram account right now and you
can see one of the things I like about he's got.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Hollywood versus reality.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And if you've been listening to my show, I don't
want to criticize Holly, but there's a pet peeve of
mine because they give they give a lot of misconceptions
of what was what reality is, and people seem to
think they can do certain things when you can't, or
certain things work when they don't. And that's why I
really like Dutch in the USA, because he puts it
to the test. Anything that really surprised you in your
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Hollywood versus reality videos that you said.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Well, I thought this could have worked, but really didn't.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
There was a scene from a movie from Densil, Washington
where a young lady is zip side to the steering wheel,
and that that just blew my mind. Not obviously, it's
a movie, right, so I'm not going to put too
much effort into it. But in this scenario, she had
(27:54):
trouble reaching the steering wheel, and I looked at the
zip diyes, I analyzed it, and I zipped out myself
the steering wheel. I had no problem getting to my
keys and start the ignition. And then on top of that,
the width of those zip ties. All you have to
do is tie them with the other hand because you
can still reach and kind of just hold the steering
wheel and move up like you're gonna just move your
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arms all the way up. And it broke very, very easily.
But in the movie, it's like a whole big scene
and you know, Denzel is about to die and she
has to step in and drive over this bad guy,
and I'm like, this could have been like a two
second scene and we could have been done with it.
So yeah, there's that, and then there's a lot of
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zip ties, duct tape and that kind of stuff. It's
all plastic, right, if you break it down, it's plastic
and they have melting points. So most of the time
you see people in basements or somewhere on the floor,
the concrete floor. All of that can generate heat as
long as you move them from left to right over
the floor. So it's actually very easy to escape those things,
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but they make it seem like it's impossible that only
you know, James Bond can get out of it.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
That's the thing about it.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Unfortunately, certain parts of the world have kidnapping issues. There's
certain high risk environments that have a lot well.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
You see it right now in Haiti there there's an
uptake in and not just people that come to visit,
like the the higher elite of the country is being
targeted as well. I mean it's everywhere big. Yeah, it's
money there. There's money and kidnappings and not just there.
For corporate America, there's a lot of ransom insurances. If
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someone gets a company list of these ransom insurances, they
can literally pick and choose and they pay out immediately
to release because that's what the insurance is for.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
So there's a whole.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
I would say, if you want good security in your company,
you might want to have to look at your insurance
company that does these policies, because if they get a
list of names of people that are ensured for that,
it gets very dangerous.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Let me ask you this. This could be a tough question,
I think, so I understand if you can't. But what
are some of the biggest misconceptions you think in the
situational awareness world that you say, man, this can put
a lot of people in danger or really doesn't help,
or anything that stands out to you. I know there's
probably several out there, maybe one that you see over
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and over again and you think, wow, this one always happens.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
I think it's people do not understand that they have value.
And I'm not talking about value in a relationship or
your work, but value as a physical being, meaning your organs,
your color of your skin. If you travel to certain countries,
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the color of your skin indicates to the people surrounding
it that you might be better off than they think.
You might not have any money at all and you're
doing a gap year or whatever, but if they see
you as being wealthy, they will take you. And having
that awareness comes down to like knowing where you're going
to travel and looking up certain rules. But I think
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a lot of people do not realize the value they
have because they think, well, I'm not rich, but they
don't know that the people that are targeting you do
not know that you don't have any money. You come
into another country and you have a fit a certain
character they're looking for. Maybe you even get picked up
by it by a nice car. Because I know you're
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doing business in a hotel and you might be mid
level manager. It doesn't matter to them. They think, oh,
he's coming for a company, means insurance. You know, there's
a lot of things, and people need to be much
more aware of their own value of their physical being.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
That's a great point.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I know we only got a few more minutes left,
you know, Robin, we're just talking before the show. You're
originally Halloween and made some great points. Tell us a
little bit about Halloween. What people should be prepared for.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Yeah, I'm doing some videos. Obviously Halloween is coming up.
So one of the things that you should be looking
for is understand that there's people that do not participate
in Halloween because they can't think of sex offenders so
when you walk through your neighborhood, I'm not saying all
of them are, but a good point is to not
knock on doors that don't have their lights on. You know,
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people that participate in Halloween, at least where I'm from,
they have their lights on, or they change the bulb
into a color that kids can come by, or have decorations.
Your local authorities will actually make an effort and do
stops throughout Halloween, before and after with these registered sex offenders.
Or you can look at your own registry. There's a
you can go online and type your address and you
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can find the people that live in communities that are
registered sex offenders and avoid those places obviously. But yeah,
not everyone that turns their light off for Halloween is
a voluntary non participant.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I would say that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I know my background is criminal psychopathology, So people don't
realize a lot of times pedophiles.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Sometimes people don't realize they're working in professions if they
can to get in contact with children, and this is
why we see some of these stories. Sometimes Boy Scout
leaders things of that nature. And again the majority of
Boy Scout leaders are not but pedophiles will look for those.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
Opportunities to the real lifestyle, right, they embed themselves in
places where it's most easiest to get you know what
they're after exactly. So, Yeah, it's a day. It's scary
as a parent. I it's hard to navigate waters like that,
especially if they live in your own neighborhoods and stuff.
You know, the people you met, the neighbors you have
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might not always be who you thought they were.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
That's absolutely true, especially if you're working out of Hell.
If you live here in park and you tickets showing
to the park, scan that area.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Absolutely some of the urban myths on that is also
what I do with my kids, and I don't really
know if it's a myth. It's definitely a good idea regardless.
So after they do the trick or treating, to scan
your kids candy after they come back. We've heard the
horror stories of that they put razor blades in there
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and stuff. I don't know if that's true. I didn't
really find much online, but regardless, it's a good tip.
Empty it out, see if there's any open packages. Especially
it's not just about safety, but it's also with COVID nowadays,
if people have open packages in there stuff like that,
it's definitely a good idea to just do a quick
sweep of the candy day collect and make sure that
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everything is kosher.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's funny you mention that because I just did a
podcast on it. Whether it's myth or not about the
razor blade?
Speaker 4 (35:02):
What did you find?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
The razor blades was a myth until twenty nineteen when
somebody actually decided to try it.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Luckily, they thought it became real because it was a
myth and he acted on it.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What's more than likely this is when you happened, is
somebody try, well, you know what, shoot, let's be the first,
I guess or whatever he was doing the worst case syndic.
There was five deaths for children. None of them were
ever associated with the candy. There was one prankster. It
was a dentist. I don't know what his deal was,
Like thirty years ago he decided to put x lax
(35:36):
into like Hershey kisses, So.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I don't know what that deal was, and he was
upset at something. I guess. That's about as bad as
I've heard.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Because it's his business. Right, kids eat candy, they come
back to him.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
For business.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Maybe they weren't eating enough candy in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I guess. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
That was probably the strangest when I've heard, but thankfully
nobody has taken.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It to the extreme.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Yeah, but regardless that that thing that tips stays. You know,
you deal with so many different doors, and then it's
always a good idea to check what your kids are ingesting.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Absolutely great stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I know, we only have a few more minutes left
with you. Dutch in the USA on Instagram, Dutch in
the USA on TikTok, and I think he's already reached
over a million followers over on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
He's over on how.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Much point one?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Four point one?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah, holy cow, because you were at one point oh
in November of last year.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah wow, so you quadrupled, Holy cat. My apologies.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So four point one million on TikTok and one hundred
and sixty four thousand on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
So yeah, a few people know.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Dutch. This area is so long, and we could literally
be here till the next eight hours and still not
cover everything on situational awareness.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Agreed, what are you coming up with in the next
couple of weeks?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
We could be people can get started looking for your
channels and start focusing on it.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
So right now we have I'm doing like weeks of
scheduled content. So we have the Taser Week coming up.
I'm doing a week on kids and baby safety, like doors,
sleeping arrangement, all kinds of stuff there.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Let me think there was one more.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
The holiday hazards are coming out, which is like everyone
is doing like Christmas decorations. But I've seen some interesting
configurations of electricity in the past, and not a lot
of people own a fire exiting which you are in
a house anymore, So don't have a few of those
holiday hazards. I'm pretty I was pretty I wouldn't say dumb,
(37:41):
but I was pretty ignorant about the fire hazards until
I started like digging and how I do my Christmas lights.
Now I'm trying to do as best as I can
and making sure that everything is set and that I
have no fire hazards, especially now I have young children.
Just want to make sure I do it right, and
I thought that the world would want to know as well.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I'm gonna put two requests and then ask you a
strange question at the end. But two requests, maybe you
can do one on lift. They just came out with
their report about sexual assaults on lift. I think it
was four thousand in the last year writers. That could
be an interesting one. I can protect yourself, so sometimes
people tell them watch out for the door locks and
things of that nature. And then my other request would
(38:23):
be maybe shopping, because I've seen a lot of people
that come out and they'll have bags with both arms.
You know, Yeah, the robber is gonna say, this is
a good one.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Did you do that one? Yeah, yeah, I did. I
did shopping.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
I've done one on Uber like Uber safety what a
check for I have another one coming up, which is
kind of like a man week where I always address
what you can do, but never address who is doing
the harm right, And it's not it's not the man
or the man in general, it's specific people that do
these gruns. But with a channel as big as mine,
(38:59):
I think it's time that I can, you know, talk
to all the men and see, you know, how can
can we make sure that the people that are feeling
these ways, the feeling unsafe? What can we do? Is
there something that we're doing right now that we're just
not unaware aware of what we're doing. And then as
far as the shopping, I've done a few you might
(39:22):
not know, but I'm expecting a third baby in December,
so I can now try to shop with three kids.
And I'll tell you to save this way how I
can make that happen. It was a request from a
video I did with my two children, so we just
had to add one on to do with three. And
then yeah, lift lift, And there's actually quite a few
(39:45):
reports people getting into cars that they think are lifts
because it's the description. There was just a big case
not too long ago about someone getting into the wrong
car and did not make it out of that car.
So yeah, it's definite. Definitely there's some great tips to
be provided there.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Absolutely. Like we said, right, this is never ending. You
have plenty of material for a long time.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
My last question is I have some friends who live
in Florida as well.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
How's Christmas in Florida?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Because I always ask, you know, you don't have the snow,
it's not really cold.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Is it different than Holland?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, it's definitely.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
So like you said, we don't have snow, but neither
do we in Holland.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
That the snow hasn't been really there for years.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Maybe a little snow storm here and there, but very
minimal compared to New York City or one of the
colder cities.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
But we love it here in Florida. It's about sixty.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Sixty sixty five in the winter, so you get a
little bit of the cold breeze. I say cold, but
sixty is cold for us. And then maybe you have
a day where it drops the forty five and you
get to wear that one sweater you own, and then
you know. Christmas is very big here, probably because all
the people from New York moved here and brought that
(41:04):
with them. So we do do big Christmases. And what
we like to do is take the kids through like
an entire there's one street where we live where they do.
They go all out. The whole block is like beautiful.
So we like to do that and we like to participate.
I love Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Oh that's cool because I know my friend taunts me
a lot of your words, Christmas Santa hat and a
T shirt and shorts.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I'll send you a picture from the beach next weekend.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
You go, don't forget this, Well, it's not Santa claus
Y again. Folks Dutch in the USA can find out
on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Robert, thank you so much for taking the time out.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Thank you so much, sir.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
That was awesome stuff. We wish you the best of luck.
Make sure you follow him wherever he's at. He's really
got some great stuff, folks, so make sure you check
it out, share, subscribe, hit that like button. You know
we like it.
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