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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Starcares, a weekly program that delves into the
issues that impact you and your family. This program is
a public affairs feature of this radio station. Now here's
your host, Michael Leach.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Everyone has a body image, and whether from society's influence
or age related changes, many people battle against a negative
image of their body. In a world with confusing messages
about our bodies and social media's promotion of the unattainable
standards for thinness or mascularity, it is difficult to think
well sometimes about our bodies. So let's talk about it.
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My guest today is counselor and fitness trainer Lany Greer. Laney,
thank you for joining me today and welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So you've written a resource entitled Struggle with Body Image,
Seeing what God Sees? What motivated your writing?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
First of all, I would have to say my own
body image struggles over the years. They were started around
middle school and then progress throughout my teenage years and
even into my toes. In those times, I was realizing
that I wasn't thinking about my body according to scripture.
I was thinking about it according to what the world
said about it. So the Lord was very kind to
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help me see that in some pretty important ways. And
my studies. So I had a background in exercise science,
and I did personal training for a lot of years,
and I primarily trained Christians, so I was seeing that
oftentimes they struggled with body image. I also worked in ministry,
and I was seeing young girls, especially teens, college age girls,
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struggling with the same thing. And then just over the years,
the Lord took me down the path to a PhD
where I studied systematic theology and I wrote on a
theology the body, and so much of what the book
discusses pulls in my own experiences trying to help others
struggling with body image. And then my doctoral work helped
to compile how God talks about our bodies in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
This topic of body image. Why is it an important
topic even and especially for Christians.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wow, there's a lot of ways we can answer that well.
First of all, the rise of social media and just
the number of ways that we have to compare ourselves
constantly to the images we see on our phones, or
the ability to change our image with different filters on
various apps, to something we find more acceptable. All those
things can just reiterate a negative body image. And then
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another layer to that is that Christians just historically at
times haven't always thought of the body biblically. We have
kind of devalued the body and elevated the soul. And
so if we don't rightly value our bodies according to
God's word, and then the culture pushes us towards a
negative body image, we can really struggle in a unique
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way with how we think about our bodies. And when God,
you know, he calls us to glorify Him in our
bodies verse Corinthian six twenty one, of the ways we
do that is the way we think about it first,
which is going to drive our actions. So if we
don't get our thoughts right about our bodies, we may
not always treat them well. We may not honor the
Lord in what we do with them.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
What do you believe are some of the unstruths or
even myths that we often believe about the body?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Here over the years, I've seen a lot in the
church and then even in my seminary experiences. I think
sometimes Christians can apply the image of God just to
the soul and not to the body. But we see
from the very first pages in scripture in Genesis, where
God he creates Outam and Eve in his image, men
and women in his image, and then he gives them
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creation commands to be fruitful multiply for the earth. So
they have to have a body in order to do that.
They're not just souls or spirit beings. And that's who
God creates in his image. It's not just the soul.
Other times we might forget that. You know, even though
Jesus comes to the earth, the son of God takes
on flesh, it becomes incarnate. He continues to be embodied
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even today. He didn't leave his body when he left
the earth. Other times we may look in the New
Testament the way that the apostle Paul talks about our
sinful flesh, meaning just our sin nature that we have
because of our fallen state. Paul uses the word flesh
sometimes to talk about our sinful nature. Sometimes he uses
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it to talk about our bodies, and if we don't
understand how he's using flesh, we might take it to
mean our body is the only source of sin, and
our soul is not impacted by sin. Last one I'd
add here is just we may misunderstand resurrection. This is
something we see in the New Testament. Certainly the Corinthian
believers misunderstood resurrection. Even though we will die, our bodies
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are going to decay. The Bible tells us we will
be gloriously resurrected and re embodied for in new heavens
and New Earth eternal existence. So our bodies have a feature,
so we can't just do whatever we want with them
in the present.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Leany you believe that there are three components that make
up a person's body image, what are they?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yes? So basically our body image has three aspects to it.
The first is a mental picture, so just how do
you visualize your body? The second would be a subjective filter.
So what that mental picture, what it passes through, and
then it's going to have a resulting assessment. So with
that subjective filter, if it is informed by the world,
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if you look around and see what culture has to
say about our bodies and then use that to assess
the mental picture you hold of your body, then you're
likely going to have a resulting negative assessment of your body.
So that's where oftentimes negative body image can come from.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
So we've mentioned the world social media. There's comparison. Are
there any contributors to our negative body images that we
might not be thinking of and that may be unexpected.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yes, definitely, I think one for females especially and even
more so those that tend to be a little bit
more type a personality, which is which is what I
am just to drive for perfectionism. If you already don't
think you measure up, and then your social media is
telling you that you don't measure up, you may be
your own worst enemy in your thinking. If you're driven
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towards perfectionistic tendencies, you're going to find that flaw. You know,
even if there's not a flaw there, you're going to
land on something that you don't like. You may obsess
about it, and that absession may push you to doing
something you know that could be harmful to your body,
like an eating disorder. Other times, some influences may come
from our friends. They could come from our families. There
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can be situations where a parent may struggle with some
type of disordered eating behaviors or can make their child
feel very self conscious for the way they eat, the
way they dress, the way their body looks, or they
may see that nothing is ever good enough. For their
parent in that regard, and that could lead towards negative
body image issues. So there are a lot of avenues
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that can kind of contribute to thinking about our bodies
in a way that's not helpful.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
You did mention one of the signs of disordered response
to negative body image, which is, you know, the eating
or lack thereof. What are some other signs of disordered
response that we should be aware of in case we
have it or we have a loved one that may
be struggling.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, so disordered responses in the extreme are going to
be eating disorders and erexia bulimia, a newer one that
mostly impacts guides, which is big orexia, which is kind
of an obsession with f lifting weights and building up musculature.
But there are some things that can lead to full
blown disorders, which would be disordered eating tendencies. So if
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you're constantly dieting, going from one thing to another to
lose ten to fifteen pounds, then possibly gaining it back
and then waiting a few months and going on something else.
If you really spend a lot of money on supplements,
you know, the latest, greatest new equipment, you jump to
this one, you jump to that one. You're just constantly
on the hunt for what's gonna give you the body
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that you're looking for that culture says you should have.
Maybe it's getting unnecessary plastic surgeries just for fixing superficial
things you don't like. It can even be really an
obsession with changing your image on social media. There are
even new disorders that plastic surgeons reference when they talk
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about how, you know, used to people would come in
their office, they would have a picture of an actor
and they would want their face to match this actor's face.
But now what they're seeing more of is someone coming
in with a filtered image of themselves from a social
media app. So there's something called snapchat dysphoria to where
patients want to match their filtered image on Snapchat. So
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these things may start small, but if they're not caught,
and if there are some other stressors that come in,
it could lead to full blown disorders.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
With this issue being such an important issue and a
widespread issue both in the world and the Christian communit,
what are your thoughts about why maybe the church isn't
addressing this issue more directly and specifically in general.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Generally, I do think it's because the Church has just
neglected the topic of the body or quite some time.
We see the Corinthians especially struggle with this issue. In
First Corinthians six, Paul really goes out the way they
were thinking about their bodies. They really didn't think the
body mattered. It didn't have value, so they felt like
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they could do whatever they wanted with their body because
it wasn't going to be resurrected. So I can participate
in sexual immorality, I can do whatever I want. So
we see it there, we see it in other places.
But largely, if we don't have a biblical conception of
the body, then it's going to drive behaviors that don't
bring the Lord glory, which is ultimately what we should
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be concerned about as believers. So glorifying God in our
body is not just what we do to it, but
it's going to be what needs to our actions, which
is our thoughts.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, what do we need to do, do you think
in order to start seeing our bodies the way that
God sees them?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, so that's a great question. I think. First, you know,
this would go for pretty much anything, but as Christians,
we need a biblical worldview. So instead of looking through
the lens of the culture and making decisions assessing our
lives or whether or not we're a success. We need
to look to scripture first, So I think the Bible
is the place we turn to understand. God created us
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with the body. He will resurrect us with a gloriously glorified,
renewed body, and Jesus takes on a body so that
he can die on the cross for our sins and
rise again the Holy Spirit and dwells our bodies. So
God doesn't shy away from being involved with our bodies.
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And I really think that's what the apostle Paul does
to the Corinthians. Is I mentioned this a lot because
this is where my doctoral work was, but I think
a lot of principles can be derived from what he
says to them in First Corinthians, chapter six, just on
if you ultimately land on verse twenty, where he says,
glorify God in your body. Where we start is okay,
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how is my thinking affecting what I'm doing with my body?
And then working on what's triggering these bad thoughts? Is
it social media? Is it my friend? Is it something else?
Is it my own thoughts? And then once we figure
that out. Then we can go to the Word to
help us combat those negative thinking and then change it
out and remind ourselves with truth from God's word as well.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Probably also need to be thinking about how we care
for our bodies, what we put into our bodies, what
we watch, what we ingest into our bodies, and even
down to nutrition and exercise, right, because the Word also
lets us know that in Romans, I think is Romans
twelve that we should present our bodies as a living
sacrifice and wholly unacceptable to God, which is our spiritual worship.
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And I think that's a combination of conscious effort to
align our physical bodies, our spiritual bodies with God's will.
And in order for us to complete our assignments in
the earth, we have to be healthy spiritually, mental, emotionally,
and physically. What do you say about that?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, absolutely, So my larger work really revolves around that
concept of because our body matters, God cares about how
we think about our bodies, which is body image, and
then how we treat our bodies, which is body stewardship.
You know, if you even go a few chapters later
in First Corinthians ten, Paula is going to give the
Corinthians another all encompassing command. First, he says, glorify God
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in your body in chapter six, and then he tells
them to honor the Lord and everything they do, even
eating and drinking. So eating and drinking, you know, those
are decisions we make on a daily basis we may
not think much about. But paulses, even in those small
everyday things we do, even that matters to the Lord.
So we don't go to the opposite end and become
obsessed with what we eat or drink, and that can
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lead to an eating disorder. But we do pay a
time into what am I putting in my body? How
am I fueling it for the Lord and for the
work that He's called me to do, because neglecting it
is going to lead to potentially health issues that may
hamper our ministry ability.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Absolutely, Lannie, how can we learn more about what we've
discussed today? How can we get a copy of your resource?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So my website is your bodymatters dot org, and struggling
with body image is on that website, your Bodymatters dot org.
I have some other resources there. I have a lot
of free things, free information, blog posts, things like that
where people can access a ton of information and other
things just to help them think about their bodies in
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a God honoring way and then glorify Him in the
way they treat them as well.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Your bodymatters dot org. Your bodymatters dot org. Leanie, thank
you so much, Leanie Greer. Thank you for joining us
today and thank you for sharing with us from struggling
with your body image seeing what God sees. Thank you,
Thank you so much, and thank you for listening.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Won't you join me again?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm your host, Michael Legion. I am praying for you
and praying that the rest of your day is wonderful.