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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Starcare's a weekly program that delves into the
issues that impact you and your family. This program is
a public affairs feature of this radio station. Now here's
your host, Michael Leach.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
A father plays a significant role in the lives of
his children. A father's presence can yield significant measurable benefits,
and his absence can create an equally measurable harm for
those children. Dad, you are important. Our guest today, Father six,
is Steve Rockmore, and he is here to speak with
us about fatherhood making a lifetime of difference. Steve, Welcome
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to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thanks so much, Michael, Steve.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We see various sitcoms on TV, and typically the father's
portrait is somewhat ignorant, uninvolved, maybe unimportant. There just seems
to be somewhat of an air of disrespect for fathers
in today's society. But you're convinced, and so am I,
that fathers are important.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Why you know, all the statistics that are coming out
of Gosh, the science world tend to be more and
more leading us toward understanding that fathers are just as
important as mothers, sometimes for different reasons, but that they
play an equally important role for instance, a child who
has a father involved tends to have a higher GPA.
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If a father is involved in school, I think they
tend to be more focused, They tend to have less
issues at home that are keeping them off of focus.
They tend to have one other parent that's helping out
with homework and encouraging them in their grades and those
kinds of things. That's just one issue of so many
fathers are they're just absolutely critical. But in this particular climate,
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it tends to be that, whether it's in the court
after a divorce or something else, we always hear about
the importance of a mother in a child's life, but
very little about a dad.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, further, when we walk through some of the benefits
two children and dads are involved, there's impacts on health
and child abuse and even drug use. Can you speak
a little bit to those areas.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, truly, particularly drug abuses is pretty significant, and I
would say particularly as it gets into the teenage years,
a father who's involved with his daughter or son. I
mean this is across the board drug abuse. If we're
talking about alcohol or any other form of medical drug,
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children tend to turn to those those products far more.
If a father's not involved, and I think once again,
it does come to the point where if a father
is there, it leaves a level level of stability and
security at home that tends to address those types of things.
When it comes to drug abuse, one of the statistics
that we see that it is pretty significant, has used
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for more risk of first substance abuse without a highly
involved father. Each unit increase in father involvement is associated
with one percent reduction in substance abuse, So that's pretty significant.
For every area that a father is involved, that level
of substance abuse goes down literally by a person point.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Talk now a little bit about poverty and the impacts
of a father not being in the home. In that regard, well.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Children and father absent homes are more likely to be poor,
as seven point eight percent of children in married couple
families were living in poverty compared to thirty eight point
four percent of children in female household only. So that's
almost a thirty percent jump just from a female only
home to a father home. But easy to see why.
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You know, you have both the cost and the time
involved in childcare and then also just the cost of
raising children, and you potentially have two incomes or at
least one dedicated income and another person fully committed to
taking care of the children at home, and so that
obviously poverty plays a lot of roles in terms of education,
in terms of the quality of the food that they eat,
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in terms of a lot of other issues that come
just from poverty alone.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
See if you're a father of six and so you
can speak well to this. How important is success as
a father for a man compared to his job and
other life commitments.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
In my view, it is the most important job we
have on earth. I think, in terms of the ripple
effect of our life, the job that we do that
will leave the most impact for the longest period of time,
without question is are our children. And I think the
reason is we may have people that we touch lives.
Hopefully we do great things, whether it's in our businesses,
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our ministries, our churches, our communities, and we touch some
lives along the ways. But with our children literally from
the moment that they arrive till the moment they reach adulthood,
during all their formative years, one of the most important,
most impactful, the strongest person who can do the most
good in their life or the most hurt in their
life is their father, and so if we want to
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make a difference for the future, there's no question that
what's right under our household, these little kids roaming around,
these teenagers that are looking to us for advice, are
the place where we can make the greatest impact. So
one of the things that it's been for me. I've
been a business owner for quite a number of years,
and one of the things that was laid on my
heart is that I keep in mind on a daily
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basis is that my business is given to me to
serve the needs of my family and not the other
way around. My family is not here to serve the
needs of my of my business. And if I can
keep those things straight and remember that the only reason
I have this business is to serve my family. When
it comes down to priorities and how I prioritize, that
helps keep things in life.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Steve the effects of a father's approval or rejection as
one of the most enduring experiences in our lives. How
can a father show acceptance to his children.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh, there's so many ways. A big one is obviously verbally.
To this day, my dad passed away about two years ago,
and I can remember one of the last things he
said because of Habitually, one of the last things he
said to me before he died was that he was
proud of me and that he loved me. Those words
hold so much power in a child's life. I mean,
I was a forty five year old man when my
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dad died, and yet when he said those things, it
still touched me deep inside, made me feel like there
was nothing I couldn't accomplish. So verbally is critical for
us to daily speak into our kids' lives and find
something positive to make Wow, you did a really good
job there, Andy. I noticed how how kind you were
with your brother or sister or whatever. It is to
build them up, to lift them up, and to also
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say the words I'm proud of you. Our kids cling
to those words. They that it's like a foundation in
their life. Another huge one is with touch. With appropriate
positive touch, it's really difficult for a kid to not
feel affirmed and to feel loved when he's being touched.
So if I'm sitting with one of my sons and we're,
you know, either watching a basketball game or we're outside
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and we're playing football or something, as much as possible,
I'm putting a hand on a shoulder, a little slap
on the back and you know, maybe a rub of
the head or whatever, and you know, and then obviously
full body hugs regularly. My boys, you know, they look
like men, but deep inside they still need that. My daughter,
I just lavish affection on her. You know, when when
she comes home at the end of the day, she
plops down on the sofa next to me, laser head
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on my shoulder. And still she's twenty twenty two years old,
and we have long talks and where I'm just you know,
kind of you know, regularly giving her hugs and you know,
touching on the shoulder and telling her how proud of
I am. I am around beautiful, she is all those
things that they need to hear. Those things would seem
like you think, well, is it really that big a deal.
But I think if we look back into our own childhoods,
we can remember how much our father's words had impact
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on us, and his touch and his approval.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's critical more present in the lives of our children.
We can become models and even mentors to help them
journey through life. What are some tips that you have
for us as parents to really be present with our children.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I think it has to be a daily focus. There's
this there's an Old Testament scripture that talks about talk
to your kids when you rise in the morning and
when you lay down at night, and when you're walking
along the way, and when you're doing it's this picture
of daily involvement and saying, dads, have your kids involved
with you. You know, if you're going to go out
and do some work around the house, bring them along.
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If you've got to run an errand bring a child along.
If when you get home, check on them in the morning.
How's it going, do you need anything for breakfast? Or
how things going that you know, at the end of
the day, how did school go today? Checking in and
looking in their eyes. Looking I think there's something critical
to looking into your kid's eyes on a daily basis.
It's amazing how much you'll pick up there. But being present,
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just by being present in our kids' lives, we set
them up for far more success just by being around,
you know, because there's so many of us fathers, we
don't do it all perfectly, but just by being around,
being available, being accessible, we can make a huge impact
in asking them how they're doing, checking in on their
daily lives, taking a personal interest in the things that
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interest them, the things that impact their lives, the things
that they want to do with their lives, and helping
them reach their goals, whether it was music or sports
or business or anything, and being behind them and supporting them.
Taking a personal interest, it's.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Critical, absolutely, And I guess eating meals together would qualify
as well.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Oh, that's one of the most valuable times where you're
just sitting around and talking about the day, joking, laughing,
hearing each other's struggles and praying together. Obviously that's a
wonderful time. And you know, I'd love to be able
to have three meals a day if it were possible,
but obviously, with our busy schedule, you know, one meal
a day is the most we could ever hope for,
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and even that's sometimes hard to do it with everybody
on different schedules. But if you can make that happen,
absolutely great impact.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
So the Dictionary's primary definition of discipline is the process
of instruction, and discipline and discipling share basically the same meaning,
but there's I think a common misconception that discipline often
really means primarily punishment. What do you say about that?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, that would definitely be a misconception. I think discipline
is the whole process of training, and I believe that
we as fathers need to take that as a personal
that that is one of the most personally important things
that we do with our kids' lives. You know, It's
been my personal thought and my observation in my own
children's lives and in others that, particularly in the teenage years,
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this becomes really important for a dad. During their early
years and when the kids are first born and they're
just getting off into school. In those toddler years, a
lot of kids' dads can feel a little less important
because they primarily want mom when things are going involved
in some of the basic needs of taking care of them.
We're doing so much to just bring to provide. But
as time goes on in teenagers, I've started noticing that
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my kids, both my sons and my daughter, start turning
to me more and more for my advice, for my approval,
more than their mom, to the point where then mom
may feel a little left like I did during the
early years. And I think there's something significant to a
father's instruction during those years. It's something about the stamp
of approval as an adult to both girls and boys.
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When a dad is saying here's what I think you
should do or here's what you should look out for. Now,
mom plays a critical role as well, and her words
are just as important, advice, just as good that I
don't know why, but somehow it seems like my kids
were seeking out my advice, my stamp of approval, even
more so during those years. And so the discipline of
giving both warning for the bad things that can happen
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if we step out of line. You know, some of
the warnings in the proverbs, for instance, from Solomon about
you know, you know, I talked to my sons as
they were becoming teenage men's boys. There's certain things you
don't want to do that are there are a trap
in life, you know, Promiscuity before marriage and outside of
marriage can be a trap and something that can ruin
and totally derail your life. And then also saying and
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then there's a wonderful blessing for waiting for your wife
and being faithful until the day you're married, and those
kinds of things. Everything from business to teaching them how
to work hard, teaching them about honesty and integrity, not
only modeling it in our daily involvement, but then talking
to them regularly as well. Absolutely, it's instruction, it's verbal
and the punishment part. I would say, if anything, maybe
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a smaller role, primarily earlier in their lives.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That we talk about is legacy. And when we refer
to legacy, sometimes we were talking about something more positive.
But you say that trust that is broken by a
parent can also leave a lasting legacy. And parents have
an obligation to be faithful to what we say and
what we promise and what we commit, and that's important
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to children. Talk to us a little bit about that.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
One thing that you notice with kids is you don't
get away with much. They see everything and they hold
your feet to the fire and they remind you, Dad,
you said this. You wait a minute, why are you
doing that? Because you said this? And so we have
to live up to the commitments we've said. If we
said we're following, we've made it. For instance, our families
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are Christians and we've made a commitment to Christ and
so there's certain obligations that go along with that. So
if I'm living or doing something outside of what they
know to be in my Christian faith, they have every
right to call me to it. And so the legacy
that we leave as far as living out the way
we say to them, So just one thing is being
faithful to their mother and being kind and thoughtful and
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loving towards their mom. Every day. I have an opportunity
when I walk through that door to You've either model
to both my sons and my daughter love and kindness
and consideration for my wife and faithfulness by them knowing
that I am completely devoted to her and her only,
and that divorce is not even an option, that's not
something that's in our vocabulary, and we don't we don't
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even use it in the under the worst circumstances. Those
kinds of legacies, as far as dad being faithful, Dad
being true, Dad being honest, knowing that Dad will be
there if I'm in trouble, our kids, they it literally
becomes a pillar of strength in their life. Now, I
will say this, we there been a lot of great
dads who've made mistakes and thankfully saying you're sorry. It
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goes a long way. And I think one of the
most important aspects of being a father is being willing
that when we do step on the line and we
make a mistake, that we go to me and go,
you know what, I said this and I did this,
and I was wrong. Will you forgive me? And if
we get back and we start again, our kids will
forgive us and they'll give us a lot of room
to grow. Kids are forgiving and they understand that because
we have to do the same in their lives. But
it's important that we live up to what we say.
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And one of the things that would make a huge
difference is for a dad to come back and say
I was wrong, I messed up. I really blew it.
And there's nothing I can do to get those that
mistake back, But will you forgive me? I'd like to
try again.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Steve backmore. Thank you so much for sharing such valuable
insights with us today.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
It was my pleasure, and.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Thank you for listening. I'd like to wish every man
who loves, nurtures, provides, and protects a happy, blessed, joy
filled Father's Day. And won't you join me again. I'm
your host, Michael Leach, and I am praying that the
rest of your day is wonderful.