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June 12, 2025 48 mins
Karen Hamilton is a dedicated Christian, military wife, and homeschool mom of three and small business owner. 
​Karen's early life was shaped by the strong faith of her parents who served for many years as Christian missionaries. The youngest of 3, Karen grew up trying to keep up with her older brothers who made sure she was tough! Karen went on to earn a Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. 
Upon graduating, she began work as a Structural Engineer. Later, she married her husband, Cameron Hamilton, and moved to Virginia Beach where he served as a Navy SEAL and Combat Medic. After welcoming their first child, Karen left her career in engineering to fully devote herself to being a wife and mother. 
As a mother to 3 children, Karen is inspired by the wise words of President Reagan, which remind us that the preservation of our individual liberty requires intentional action and sacrifice. "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction," Reagan said. "We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same..." As the wife of a combat veteran, she understands the high cost of freedom.  
Karen felt called to homeschool her children and provide the support their family needed at home while her husband was often deployed. Her husband is currently serving in the Trump Administration. Despite this, they consider themselves blessed to call the northern Piedmont region of Virginia "home" since 2016.
In her spare time, Karen has enjoyed coaching, teaching and being politically active. She also leads a women's Bible study and enjoys the peace of her small farm in Orange, Virginia with her many animals!
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Speaker 1 (01:36):
Hello, everyone, welcome to another episode, episode three sixty six
of Stewing the Nun. Thank you all for joining us
here on this June twelfth, episode three sixty six. And
as you can see, I am joined by our guests
already tonight missus Karen Hamilton is joining me from the
great Uh is it the state of Virgina is not
a state, Commonwealth of Virginia. My bad, right, Karen, welcome, Oh,

(02:00):
thank you for coming on.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, thanks so much for having me, Sue, It's good
to be here.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, awesome. Well, people may say, wow, I've seen Hamilton before.
There's a lot of Hamilton's coming on.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Go.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
You are the wife of uh and i'll say the
better half of past guest. Good Cameron Hamilton has been
on here and and you have now step are stepping
forward into the political uh limelight and uh so we're
glad to have you on. So yes, you are connected
to Cameron and uh and very glad to have you

(02:32):
on and see a family that that is all in
as they say.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Absolutely, Yeah, I think you guys have had Cameron on
a couple of times and so he's not new to
your guests. But I am and I'm I'm happy to
be here with you all and get into some of
the issues here at Stake in Virginia.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, absolutely, so you are having you all because you
are stepping forward in the political light. But before we
get to that, can you give us our viewers and
listeners a little bit of your background and kind of
what what brought you here?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Sure? Yeah, I'm originally from North Carolina. I grew up
right near Fort Bragg, North Carolina, so just military all
around me, and that just kind of ingrained a sense
of patriotism in me. But you know, early in my twenties,
Cameron Hamilton came through. He was doing some medical training
out at Fort Bragg as a young Navy seal and

(03:22):
I was working there as a young engineer fresh out
of college. And we met and were married within a
year and moved up to Virginia Beach and he did
his time at seal teammate there and we just kind
of became Virginians at that time. We fell in love
with the state, and after he got out in twenty fifteen,
his career led him up to DC. He served in
the State Department and then DHS, and so we settled

(03:47):
in District sixty two, which is Orange County, Culpepper, Madison,
and Green County. And so we've been here for the
past ten years, and a couple of years ago, you know,
my husband felt a call to run for Congress, just
with all the things that were on the line, and
you know, he wasn't successful in that, but we've just
continued to fight because it's just too much at stake

(04:09):
here for us to sit on the sidelines. And that's
really why I'm here because Virginia. You know, while we
have our federal government in good hands with Trump, Virginia's
in a lot of trouble here and it's it's all
hands on deck.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, very shocked, sad, and surprise that camera
did not win Virginia seven. But that was I think
I was probably the biggest supporter and proponent of his
outside of the Commonwealth, much less district. Yeah, and so yeah,
so you guys settled there. Also. I was born for

(04:44):
Bragg actually, so kind of a but yeah, just a
longtime Armie brat myself besides doing it, but uh yeah,
thank as well. Oh no, no, no problem, thank you
for yours Because being a military wife, much less a
wife of Navy seal who has gone all the time,
multiple times, most of the time with little no notice

(05:06):
and raising some wonderful children. Is in keeping the home
fires burning it. I'm sure it made you like it
did make my wife, even though already tough and accomplished,
just that much more. There's no such thing as men
duties and women duties in a military household.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's all right. Yeah, you just kind of do what
you have to do and people will always say, well,
how do you guys do that? And we just you
know how it goes. You just figure out a way
to do it. And it's a team effort. But you know,
we both love this country in and it's an honor
to be able to be around that community, the Navy
seals and also you know, be married into it.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah. Absolutely, So, you know, Cameron Ran didn't have a
successful one, but it's still very much involved and always
has been. And now you're stepping forward for to be
a delegate for the Commonwealth of Virginia for is it sixty.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Two that the dish district sixty two?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So what is that? Uh so, so I guess what
led you to what? What when did you wake up
one day or sitting on the back porch having a
cup of coffee, go and just think, you know what,
it's it's time for you to step into the breach.
It's it's I need to.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, yeah, I Honestly, it didn't happen that way. Cameron
is much better at at being out in the forefront
on things. He's a much better public speaker. He's much
more diplomatic and polished than I am. So I never
really saw myself running for any sort of office. I'd
rather be behind the scenes. But what happened was our
current delegate, Nick Fredis, which I'm sure many people in

(06:38):
the podcast world are familiar with. He's he and his
wife have become personal friends of ours, and we knew
that he was stepping down and he was I think,
you know, his probably his number one choice would have
been Cameron to run in a spot. But at the time,
Cameron's servant at the in the Trump administration, and he
he knows that we have the same worldview, and he said, hey,

(06:59):
would you consider for office? You know, And at the
time I was like, Ugh, I'm not so sure about that,
because you know, life is busy with my husband's career
and the way he is, and like I said, I'm
a homeschool mom, and so I just never really considered it.
But when I saw what was coming down the pipe
for us in Virginia, what was really on the line,

(07:22):
I realized that now it's the time to fight. It's
not the time to be timid. And so I just
decided to throw my hat in the ring and accept
the challenge and fight for this district and fight for
our commonwealth.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
So are you Are you competing against anyone else for
a primary or how does that work? And it's not familiar
with the Virginia politics. I mean, I know when I ran,
he was running again, he was you know how he did.
But I'm at the delegate level. How does that work?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Sure? Yeah, I am in a primary right now. I
do have a guy in Madison County who I'm running against,
and so we will know on Tuesday who's going to
come out of that primary and run in the general
against the Democrat Sarah Radcliffe, who's run a few times
and very far left. So you know, we'll see, we'll
see who comes out of it. We're feeling good, but

(08:11):
I do have a primary, okay?

Speaker 1 (08:13):
And then how is sixty two? Is it pretty heavy? One?
Way or the other or pretty much down the middle
or how does that look at it?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's a strong red district. It's about like a sixty
sixty five thirty five R plus you know district. So whoever,
it's so basically, the election is the primary, as far
as the as far as the delegate is concerned, whoever
comes out of this Republican primary is almost guaranteed to
win in the general.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, and how do you looking pretty good so far?
You think your chances are?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I think, yeah, I think it's looking pretty good. We've
been putting in the work on the ground, door knocking,
phone banking, and trying to just be as transparent as
we can be because I feel like, you know, Americans
are frustrated. They keep on sending people into office that
are saying one thing and doing another, and we're all
sick of it. I'm sick of it too, and so
one of my goals has just been to be as

(09:09):
transparent and as detailed as I can beyond issues that
people care about, and you know, then they get to
make a choice on whether or not I'm the sort
of representative they would like. But as long as I'm
being transparent and they can they can see an authenticity there.
I feel like I'm doing my job so far.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Good good. And then and obviously you've got some great endorsements,
a number of delegates, including Nick who obviously came to
you an ash you. So you've got a number of folks, people,
council members, all kinds of folks, and so you've you've
definitely commitced, you know, a lot of voices with your
within your district. It sounds like that that you're the
right choice. I'm sure that's helping out.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, it had it has been, and you know, it's
interesting with Cameron's race, God just kind of set us
up to be to form relationship with relationships with people
that would lead into the next step of whatever was coming,
you know, our family and how we could serve and
so some of those, some of those connections and those
endorsements are just friendships that we've made over the past

(10:06):
few years. And so yeah, it's it's it's been a
blessing to have their support.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah. Yeah. And so when I look back at your
past and career, I mean, you know, you were a
structural engineer, is that right, That's right, So you you
did that for a number of years, he decided to
be a stay at home mom. And then and then
is that when you decided to homeschool mean not knowing
how the schools are. I think out there in more
rural Virginia that they probably had some pretty good schools.

(10:32):
But at some point you just decided to hang up,
you know, your career that you went to school for,
and say, I'm going to focus on my family. I'm
going to focus on my kids. And how hard was
that hard to do? Working so hard to get to there?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
You know, I it wasn't very hard to do, because
once I became a mother, it just it became so
clear of what the priority was. And and and because
my husband's career often led him outside of the country,
I just believed it was so important to have one,
you know, one person as the home base. They gave

(11:04):
kind of a security to the whole family. And it
was honestly an easy decision. After I was out of
the working world for a few years. You know, while
my children were very young, I enjoyed it so much
the time I had with them that I was like,
I can't even fathom going back into the into the
working world. And so it was kind of a natural transition.
It wasn't didn't feel like I was giving up this

(11:26):
great career. It just felt like, Hey, this is where
God's leading me. This is what I want to do
with life right now. So I don't regret it for
a second. I'm thankful to have the opportunity, thankful to
have a husband that supports that decision.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yeah, no, I totally get it. Our paths are so similar.
I mean, my wife was in politics and that point,
political appointee and things for years and we moved here
and she did not have to work. She finally got
to focus on being a mom at home and it's
something she has loved a lot. And many people try
to push her back in to politics regard she was.

(12:00):
She was fine where she was.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, absolutely, I get that.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
But so so you're running there that the primaries Tuesday,
and this mean for you to I mean, is the
the travel back and forth, Let's see you go on
and win. You're still going to be Are your kids
still you know, homeschooled and is Cameron going to become
the lead teacher now or how does that work? No?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Actually, we have a citizen legislature here in Virginia, so
you're really only there for anywhere from six to seven
eight six weeks a year or seven weeks a year
on off years, and so it's really just an intense
period of time where you're passing you know, two to
three thousand bills. And so we only live about an

(12:51):
hour and twenty minutes from the capitol, and so I'll
be I'll be driving down there. I'll either be driving
back and forth. The kids will be with me some
and some they may be up here. Our kids are
kind of at that age where they're in their early
teens and able to stay home some here and there. So, uh,
they're gonna be with me a lot though, because they're

(13:12):
going to bring their school books with them, and so
they don't they don't get out of out of class
free pass on that they're going to be bringing school
books with me, working in my office and still spending
time with me.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
So well they should be learning a lot in civics.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
So yes, yeah, they will good experience.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yep US history, social studies, all that should be top notch,
that's right, that's for sure. Yeah, Uh, this is just breaking.
You know, we said before the show that we're going
to talk about current events and stuff. Uh, man, doesn't
any current in this. I am just now getting alerts
from from contacts and I'm seeing it. Just kind of

(13:53):
let everyone know. Israel apparently has started preemptive strikes against Iran.
Uh they are and Israel is declared the state emergency
and uh they have started attacks in Tehran. So you
are hearing you are watching the show live. Apparently there
was a reason why the Department of Defense started moving

(14:14):
family members out of the Middle uh yesterday and uh yep,
so Israel apparently has started the bombing runs into it.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
So that is crazy. Yeah, yeah, who knows. Yeah, prayer
prayers for them over there, because that could get really
messy really quickly.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yes, yeah, uh, let's see, let's see where this goes,
you know. Just uh it may make everything happening in
l A and and all that uh pointing here really
quick ocus will go other places. But yeah, so we'll
kind of use that, I guess to transition a little bit.
But uh so when you think about when you when

(14:58):
you talked about stepping forward and and serving it a
lot to do, is there are there a lot of
things happening in the Northern Virginia, specifically in District sixty
two or really the whole Commonwealth, because obviously you would
be a you would be a voice for for all
the people of Virginia. Uh, and you know, passing votes
that that really concern you, that you really are are
worried that Virginia is not you know, doing the right

(15:20):
thing in the right areas.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, there's there's so many it's a long list, but
I'll give you sort of kind of the most motivating
things that that got me to throw my hat in
the ring that I'll kind of give you the background
of where we're at in Virginia and and just how
pivotal this year is. So Democrats control the entire legislature.

(15:43):
They have the House and the Senate right now, and
so for the past four years we've had a Republican governor,
Republican Lieutenant governor, and Republican attorney general. And so we've
really been able to hold off some of the worst
of the legislation. But this past session we kind of
got a preview on what's ahead. And so this this election,
the entire House of Delegates is up for election, and

(16:04):
then the governor, lieutenant governor, and attorney general. And so
if we are not able to flip the House, Democrats
have gotten halfway through the process of passing three different
constitutional amendments, the first one being immediate reconstitution of rights
for our voting rights for violent criminals, so essentially a

(16:27):
child rapist would have more rights than an unborn child,
which is crazy in our state. We have the abortion Amendment,
which would be the most liberal amendment in the entire nation.
It's unlimited abortion at any reason, for any time up
until the moment of birth. And there's also an aspect

(16:48):
of that one, which is a parental rights issue. There
is no parental consent required for abortion for an underage
young woman, and so a child could go get an
abortion without their parents ever even knowing about that. So
that's also you know, a medical safety issue as well,
because it's not uncommon for uncommon for there to be

(17:10):
complications with that. And then the last one is the
gay marriage Amendment. So you know, our constitution right now
has marriage between a man and a woman, and I
know people have moved very far left or moderate on
this issue, but one of the concerns in particular about
this amendment is that there is no religious exemption and

(17:31):
so churches would essentially be forced to ordain, you know,
unbiblical marriages or they would face legal consequence. And so
you'd be kind of seeing what we saw years ago
with the Colorado bakers getting sued over not you know,
baking the cake. You'd be seeing that across the Commonwealth
of Virginia with churches that go against that. And so

(17:52):
those are the most concerning constitutional amendments. But aside from that,
Democrats came up with, you know, twenty seven, they got
twenty twenty seven bills through the legislature trying to infringe
on our Second Amendment rights. Governor Youngkin was able to
veto those, but they're just coming right back at us
with they're attacking our gun rights, our property rights, our

(18:13):
religious liberties. The list goes on and on, and then
we have major parental rights issues in Virginia. I know
a lot of people have been seeing some of the
things happening in Loudon County. There were boys that were
recorded from a girl that came into their locker room
and the boys complained about the girl being in there,
and the boys were the ones that got in trouble

(18:34):
for it. So it's like everything just seems to be
backwards of what it should be there are so many
issues that are on the line in this year's put pivotal.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, it's and and you know, I kind of take
Virginia's I live in the state of New York, the
socialist state of New York, and you know it is, uh,
it's a very downstate, right It's it's like five boroughs
driving is there. So it doesn't matter what everyone else
in the state thanks or votes for. Yeah, looking at

(19:04):
northern and looking at Virginia as I have been working
in out of DC area for so long, I mean,
you know, it's all about you know, that very northern
Loudon County area and that kind of stuff pretty much
drives it seems like that that's where it's got. I
imagine that's got to be some of the heaviest blue
areas of Virginia. It is.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, it's very frustrating because the rest of Virginia, like
many other you know, blue states, is pretty red. But
you just have a few blue dots and they're they're
getting bigger and bigger, and we have a hard time
getting our base to turn out. And so I think
that's really the challenge is is getting our people are
like minded people that love this country that don't that

(19:47):
don't want government weighing in into our personal lives and
into the lives of our children, and don't want them
being indoctrinated in schools, and so you know, we have
to turn our people out and just make them realize that, yes,
were blessed to have Trump in the office, but so
many of these battles are having to be fought at
the state level, and we've got to wake up and
pay attention and engage in primaries and not send a

(20:09):
bunch of rhinos into the state houses.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, that's a good point. We can look at. You know,
the twenty twenty election, right, I mean, people all thought
was at the national but it was local judges, local
town councils, assemblies that were changing election laws on the fly, right,
and you know, making and disregarding what the what their
state constitution said or whatever. It was all local people.

(20:34):
You know, that's why we say start from the school
board to whatever it may be. You know, you should
be voting at every one of those because they can
impact at the national level. We've seen it, We've seen
the evidence. Now it doesn't you're so.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Right, twenty twenty I think just taught us so many
lessons and we've got to I know, people hate bringing
up COVID all the time, but it was just it
was such a time where we got to kind of
see behind the curve of things and really come to
grips with the fact that we're so close to losing
some of our freedoms, you know, because we've left people
in power that don't respect our individual liberty. So it's troubling.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
As a mom. I mean, let me ask you, because
you know, one of the things. Of course, the COVID time,
the whole lockdown was terrible for so many reasons for
this country in the world. But I mean, there are
a few, in my opinion, shining lights that came out
of it, and I think one of it was parents
finally paying attention to seeing what the kids were being taught.
I mean, if there's if I look back, and I've
talked to a few people about this, I mean, when

(21:36):
I look at second, is anything good that came out
of it? A couple One was definitely people realizing what
the government is capable of and what they will do,
and how sheepishly so many people fell along with it.
But to me, more portly was people sitting at home,
zooming it from home to work and sitting there listening
to their kid next to them, what was being at,
what they were being said. To me, that opened up

(21:57):
a lot of eyes. I'd be interested what your thoughts are,
even you know, there's a home school mom and just
you know, as a mom in general.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I think you're spot on about that. And you know,
my husband and I've been home homeschooling the entire time,
but we've gone to school board meetings for years because
actually after COVID, after we realized what was going on,
and after we saw this, this kind of woke ideology
being pushed on the minds of our youth. It's a

(22:25):
problem not just for people who have kids in these schools,
but for all of us, because our future and our
nation is being shaped in these schools. And for conservatives,
we've kind of let the left completely take over the
educational institutions and now we're kind of dealing with the
consequences of the last several decades of that. And so yeah,

(22:47):
I think it's vitally important for parents to stay engaged,
not just go there to complain. Once they realized, you know,
something inappropriate happened. But stay on these people in authority
because these are our kids and this is our future.
We were fortunate to be able to homeschool. I know
a lot of people would like to homeschool, but they
don't feel like they have the financial freedom to be

(23:08):
able to do. So that's one of the things I'm
wanting to bring to Virginia is school choice and allow
some sort of tax rebate to be given back to
parents so they have a little bit more financial liberty
to choose something else if public school isn't working for him.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, that's you know, and I remember back in the day,
way back in the day, you know, when we were
first starting out our family. You know, if you homeschooled,
it was hard work. You know, there was no infrastruction,
There was no internet, there was no infrastructure. I guess
you made you wrote off and you know, ordered books
and manuals and you kind of you know, it was
very you know, austere if you would compare to now,

(23:48):
if we're not from what I understand talking to people
at my church and stuff like that, that do it.
I mean there's full websites, they have proms. I mean,
they get together all the people in our area for
all the seniors, and they have put together a problem
for I mean, it seems to be a lot more,
a lot more. There seems to be a lot more resources,
and it's a lot easier if you were to eat

(24:09):
the word than it was twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I agree. And we're not all weird, I know. I
know homeschoolers get a bad rap that everybody's weird and
nobody knows, you know, social skills. But you're right, there's
a whole lot of resources out there now, and we're
in a co op and so kid, our kids are
going to school. They're only going to school once once
a week, but they're getting all their class instruction and
then they're given their assignments and then we meet back

(24:32):
up the next week. So it's a nice way to
do school. It gives you the flexibility in your schedule
to pursue a lot of other aspects of life. But also,
you know, have that connection at school and have that
instruction from other teachers.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, I didn't know they did the co op thing.
I know. We're friends of ours that didn't like their
son played on the local high school football team, but
he was homeschool high school I mean, yeah, it's uh
and it's funny. See we're not all weird because yeah,
back in the day it was kind of yeah people
at home, Yeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's like the denim jumpers, you know they they everybody
looked a little bit.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Uh well, we'll say yeah. Long you know, like what
cult or religious religion are you?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, come drink our kool aid?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah? Not great, good one, probably not remember that. I
don't think you're the Uh So, when you look at
this and you're you talked about a number of topics
that are obviously important of Virginia. When you look at
what's going on across the country. We talked about that
a little bit with COVID. But when you look at
what's happening even right now, you know President Trump's first election,

(25:46):
then four years of somebody or an auto pen, we're
not sure, and then now President Trump back in there
and everything has happened. I mean, his first four years
was the election campaign was crazy. He was breaking trail
and doing things no one had ever seen. Definitely said
things no one has ever said in politics. Now he's
in it. We had possible two attempt to assassinations, he's

(26:09):
back in it. All that kind of stuff, you know,
to attempt to impeach him, and and you know the
Dems are not letting up. I mean, they played every
card they had, but boy, they keep pulling other Trump
because they keep pulling hidden cards. I was calling Trump
but bad pun pulling cards out of like everything. And

(26:29):
when you look at that, what are you hoping that
your voice in Virginia? You know, if you if you
get elected to represent just sixty two, how you haven't
packed on the national scene.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, well, I've I love President Trump's fight, and I
think he's inspired a whole new generation of people stepping
into the political arena that have that similar fight and
just say, you know what we're you know, the timid
kind of defensive posturing and the nice khaki pants politics.
That that era is over and we have a new

(27:03):
a new group of people that that are a little
bit more like Trump a little bit I'm not quite sure.
Maybe raw and authentic is the way to frame that,
but I'm thankful that we have a president who's courageous
and puts Americans first. I think, you know, you would
kind of think that was common sense with with the

(27:24):
leader of a country that they would put their people first.
But it's you know, after we had four years of
Biden and then then Trump, and then prior to that
we had Obama doing kind of an apology tour all
over the nation, apologizing for for our our people and
our behavior. It's it's really refreshing to have President Trump
who just loves our country. And I think for me,

(27:48):
I I love our country too, and I love Virginia.
So I think I'm the other thing that I'm I'm
looking forward to being able to kind of speak into
is I feel like women in politics have in some
ways gotten a bad I wouldn't say a bad rap,
because in many ways it's well deserved, but we've been
poorly represented on the national stage in some ways. You know,

(28:10):
there's been On one side, you kind of get the
identity politics and these kind of feminist women that are
man hating and they just they're just most people don't
like to hear from them, and I don't blame them.
I don't like to hear from either. And then on
our side sometimes you get some strong fighters, but they
can sometimes be a little hard to tolerate as well.

(28:33):
So I feel like we just we need some god
fearing women to step up that love their family, you know,
love some of the more traditional values of our nation.
They're not trying to be men, They're just trying to
speak as patriotic women, as as people who love, love
the values that our nation was founded on, and want
to stand for truth and stand for righteousness and stand

(28:54):
for love of country. And so I'm hoping to just
be a voice for that, a fresh voice, and to
maybe help help a new era come in along with
with Trump and some of the other fresh faces that
you know, we we can just be authentic and not
have to play this political game all the time. You know.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned that because, I mean, identity
politics is definitely I mean, that was a term ten
fifteen years ago, that wasn't even a term, but now
it's crept in everything. Right. Everybody wants to be a victim,
and everybody wants to do you know. I mean yeah,
you always people as used to say rude for the underdog,
but it's another thing to be an underdog and then
try to spin yourself into it. And a great example
is what happened yesterday in the hearing with our Secretary

(29:40):
Treasury Bessett. So he's I don't remember her name, but
you know, he's being grilled. I think it was yesterday,
maybe yesterday by this you know, the Senate committee or
this House committee and this Democrat. Remember she was talking
to him and they were talking pricing, prices and all
that stuff, and he was trying to correct her. And and

(30:01):
she or she is a member of Congress, you know,
ran for election one all that stuff, probably multiple times.
And and he is an openly gay member of the
cabinet Secretary Treasury for one of you know, I think
only uh right now that I know, but you know,
it's definitely not hiding it. And and you know, no
matter what people say about Trump and the LGBTQ community,
and he obviously does not care about any of that

(30:22):
because he picked the guy he thought was best for it.
And she played victimhood and talk about you know, can
you let me speak. I know you're I know, I'm
only a woman. And in that hearing I mean the
entire hearing room, you could hear groans and just get
and you could hear eye rolls if good. I mean,
it was just like the whole place had an audible

(30:42):
sound to it. But she's an elected member. She plays
the you know, she's accomplished something only four hundred something
people can and definitely a lot you know women not
not far the majordy. Uh and she does the whole well,
I know, only like he's a gay man. I don't
know where he falls in the pecking order, but I mean,
if we're gonna play the identity politics game, I think

(31:04):
he's pretty high up there too.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah. You know what a joke, you know, still playing
the victim and still still trying to act like, you know,
a battered woman or something like that. You know, I
think people are sick of it, and I think we
need to continue to kind of make fun of behavior
like that because it's it's not serious and it shouldn't
be accepted.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, we saw the same thing that it was in
yesterday in La this you know, these people blocking the
roads and this young black mom with kids trying to
get to work. She's all dressed up to go to
work in these uh you know, these these you know,
young look like just rolled out of bed or out
of their tent or something. White people. Her She's like,
I need to get to work. And they were like,

(31:47):
oh you're someone said, yeah, who We're like, you know, yeah,
that's the that's contributing to society American dream. And like,
you know, I don't know what this is, how the
person words whatever they afford, but it's just like, you know,
you're not the VICTI like this person. You want to protest. Awesome,

(32:08):
we have the first Amendment, we have the ability to
have civil discourse, and you can peacefully, truly peacefully protest.
But the second, in my opinion, you damage something, cost
cost you know, anything that you could be arrested for,
or disturb someone else from going about their life, it
is no longer peaceful.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, and it's no longer you're right because you've just
violated somebody else's rights. And I totally got that guy
with the man bund that was basically trying to you know,
make fun of her and say, oh, I'm keeping from
going to work. Well, some people actually have to go
to work and pay for their you know, their children
to have food on the table. And these these protesters
are being paid with our taxpayer dollars, funded through you know,

(32:49):
funneled through NGOs and and uh and and then they
have the goal to make fun of a woman who's
just trying to go to work. So right, they're so
out of touch and and they are in their own eyes,
they are so right in their own eyes, and so
prideful and so you know, morally superior that they look

(33:10):
down on everybody else and I I it's it's frustrating
to watch.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
That's where they're running. Joke, is right, anyone that has
a co exists stick or the last people to want
to co exist with anybody.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, like a couple of the symbols on that sticker
want to kill everybody else on the stickers.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
You know, and they say it was like, then, then
be respectful of other people's opinions or their fates or
there are anything about them, right and just and you
be upset. You know, you can be mad, just like
you know many of us were during the previous administration.
But you know, it was what it was, and there's
nothing we've done about it. And uh except next time
it came chance to go to a oating booth and

(33:51):
and hear your voice heard enough of us, did it?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
H Yeah? We turned out big time. Yeah, and now
the whining about it. But my my favorite thing to
do to them is to turn all their little phrases
back on them. I love to say when they're being
you know, rude and hateful as they usually are, I
usually try to say, well, hate has no home here,
you know, I'll post that online and they love that one.
You know. They're a little signed that they put up

(34:15):
in all their yards and stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
So well, we can always drop the bless your heart, right,
that's we can always draw that. Some people say, you know,
let's go brandon, other people say bless your So you
just got to figure out what to read between the
lines where it's meant to be. But so when you

(34:37):
look at this what's happening, I mean, and it started
in La now it's spreading all over.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
You.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Uh. We compare that to twenty twenty after the George
Floyd writes and all that stuff. Do you think, in
your personal opinion, it's going to get to something to
that degree or do you think this is going to
be ended sooner and hopefully violent?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Well, I mean Trump coming in a lot heavier this time,
which I think is necessary. I know people don't like
to see that, and they get concerned with federal overreach.
But at the same time, when you have states completely
refusing to protect their own citizens, I'm not sure you
know what other answer there could be other than the
federal government saying Okay, you won't protect your people, We're

(35:19):
going to protect your people. So I'm hoping that we're
not going to quite see the same level of destruction. However,
I know that they are very well organized, and from
what I've seen, they have about if I'm not mistaken,
like fifteen hundred locations for protests this weekend. I know
in my district two of the four counties are going
to have protests, and so we're going to see what happens.

(35:41):
But I know that if it gets ugly, our side
has a whole lot more guns, and so it's not
gonna it's not gonna last very long.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
That that is very true. Yeah, and a lot less
we can croose and yankme out of the way. Not
too many of that most was on our side are bald,
and that we all don't have good Cameron here. But
but no, so I mean, yeah, when you look at that,
I didn't realize they're gonna have two and that I

(36:09):
mean I heard about this no King's Day, which is funny.
Our President Trump was asked about that last night and
he was or maybe today, I can't keep the news
is so fast, and he was just he's not worried
about that. He's like, I ain't No, I'm not a king.
If I was a king, I just push everything through.
He says, I have to fight like hell to get
everything through, right, right, they can say that. I don't
know what what Sorrows group came up with that term

(36:31):
and what they're going after, but I don't think they're
going to get too far into the perimeter of DC
during the two hundred and fiftieth Birthday celebration of the
US Army and Flag Day. I'm assuming that's that perimeter
is going to be locked down pretty tight.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I think so because my husband's work and the Trump
administration still and they're on telework tomorrow because they told
them basically, hey, everything's getting locked down, stay home, we'll
see you after. So I think they are well prepared.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Are you guys planning to go see the parade?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
We're not. He could have gotten tickets, but you know,
I'm I'm at the tail end of my race here
and so I'm just spending all my free time door
knocking and trying to connect with voters.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, that makes that makes perfect sense. To keep your
eye on the prize and and that's definitely a better
use of time. I'm sure. Yeah, he's left, but uh yeah,
mutual friend tried to invite me to get me to
come down to it, but I've been on the road
the last couple of weeks and I was like, I'd
love to come down, but yeah, I can't imagine what,
especially with his no Kings thing, what they're going to

(37:36):
try to turn that into. And you know it was
it was enough to be at the last couple or
both of his inauguration. That was fun enough, but this
will may be a little bit more intense. But yeah,
watching on.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
The news, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting weekend,
That's that's for sure. I was telling people, careful when
you're out doing your Saturday shopping, you might get a
brick thrown at you in your car on fire, you know,
from the peaceful protesters.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, the families are out buying the underwear and ties
for dad for Father's Day Sunday. I mean you better
get buy online or something and maybe yeah, but yeah,
it's it's gonna be crazy with Father's Day, with that
thing going on Flag Day obviously is a retired army guy,

(38:23):
you know Army birthdays near and you to my heart too,
So yeah, I see how it's going. Plus we have
a big concert here in Buffalo. We've got Chris Stapleton
and George Strait, so uh yeah, it's it's uh that
you talked about bringing all things together. Yeah, it is
a it's a big, big night here. But yeah, so

(38:47):
I'm just uh oh yeah, just seeing the news reports
coming across now confirming everything that I said earlier. But yeah,
so when you know, I know, some of the things
back to Virginia real quick obviously prior to Governor Younkin,
the schools, the school board meetings. Uh, like you talked about,
young man, they just moved from school to school where

(39:07):
it was. Is that still a hot issue in Virginia
like it was back then? Is that's still something that
left is? Really? Are they still winning on some of
that stuff?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I guess yeah, Well, I mean, you know, they're not
very smart. They still are doubling down on maybe five
percent issues that have you know, very very few people
that support them. But but they're kind of all lemmings.
So I guess they just go to the ballot and
vote vote that way anyways, But yes, that's still a
big issue, you know, four years ago. The way we

(39:38):
really won in that election and have had Young kinnis
because his opponent, Terry mccaulliffe foolishly said and in their
debate that parents, parents, you know, need to basically butt
out of the classroom. They don't there, they don't have
the authority to tell tell teachers anything. And so it
was like this, this you know, perfect moment meant for

(40:00):
young kin to just say, oh, really, you just said
that parents don't have the authority over their kids that
that teachers do. And so but Democrats once again are
kind of doubling down on the on the parental rights
uh attacks and uh things are heating back up in
Loudon County because for whatever reason, that county just has
a terrible school board and it seems to be a

(40:24):
constant issue up there that parents' rights are just kind
of trampled on. And I'm happy for them to keep
on doubling down on it because it's election here and
we we need we need some red uh, some red
legislators and and a red governor because we have so
much chaos coming down the pipe. But we also have
a gal that used to be in office a couple

(40:45):
of years ago, and one of her pieces of legislation
wanted to actually send parents to jail if they didn't
affirm their child's gender confusion. And she's running for reelection,
she's trying to flip the district back again. And so, yeah,
we did. We have these constant issues. And I'm not
sure why Democrats keep thinking this is a winning issue,

(41:08):
because most people love their kids and don't want the
government telling them what to do.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, we need more tenth Amendment believe people. You know,
you talk about not being weird. I mean, I've considered
myself a conservative libertarian, but unfortunately the libertarians usually put
up nothing but weird all the time. They they have
a hard time finding good candidates. But I'm a tenth Amendment, right,
And what's what's in the You know what it says,
and that's it. And if it's not, it's on the states,

(41:35):
and it's states, right, which again why local elections are
so important. But you see, uh, is there a movement like,
for example, here in the state of New York. Obviously
it's all over the news. How you know, a lot
a lot of people are leaving New York, like they're
leaving California. In Virginia, is there a lot other is

(41:57):
are you seeing a movement of people or is there
are the people moving out of Louden and Fairfax Counties
out into the more world, because.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
You know, movement loud and we're seeing we're seeing kind
of the you know a lot of the cuts that
have been made on the federal level. You know, people
are relocating from those. But I think people are kind
of holding on in this election to see which way
it goes. Because if we don't win, we are going
to become like New York and California, and it's going
to happen in a hurry, and so I would expect
we would see a similar exodus. I think right now

(42:27):
people are kind of holding on. And to tell you
the truth, there's so many people that they're not this
isn't even on their radar. They're not going to realize
until it's happened, and then they're going to say, how
do we get here? And I'm going to say, well,
you weren't paying attention, you weren't voting, you know.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah, I mean you can, yeah, just go a little
bit west. You get to West Virginia probably be a
little bit, uh orde, But I mean, obviously.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
People everybody's wanting to go to Tennessee. So see what happens.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
As the movie said, the Patriots stated shooting stuff. So
it is, uh, it is definitely that. Yeah. So obviously
people are rooted their church families and their friends and
their networks and that kind of stuff. They're not just
going up and move. But I wasn't sure if you
were seeing any kind of exodus out of the heavily
blue areas up right around the DC area.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, we we. When people were able to telework, we
were seeing quite a bit of movement down to the
rural areas. People love, you know, the peace and quiet
and a little bit more space. But now that you
know everybody has to go back into the office in Washington,
I feel like there's been a little bit of a pause,
but I'm sure we'll see it again. But you know,
as far as people giving up on Virginia, I'm hoping

(43:39):
people enough people stay and fight because I just feel
like our history here is just so special. I mean,
the home the home of George Washington, James Madison. James
Madison is actually he was the delegate of this district
and so there's just so much beautiful history here that
we want to retain and I just don't want to

(43:59):
see it uh ruined by the left.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, I mean it is definitely rich in history, and
as a student of history, I mean it's it's one
of the places I love to go to. When I
was down or not too lot go I came down
to Orange County. I actually saw Cameron. I came down
there and I drove by Monticello and all that area,
and like, yeah, man, I gotta next time. I got
to swing through there and see this. It's just you know,
all these areas that you out and watch documentaries and

(44:24):
movies like these people get to live right here through
you know, and and you know, whether it's you know
they're or even in Pennsylvania and some of those areas
were such you know, I can't count the number of
times my boys were younger that you know, for their
birthday weekend or wanted to go to Gettysburg even though
they'd been there before, just to keep walk battlefield again.
You know. It's it's a you can feel it, you know.

(44:47):
And yeah, there's a lot in Virginia that to keep
people there for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's it's important for future generations
that we preserve it for them. So I'm hoping we
can do that.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah. Yeah, So, well we've covered a lot of topics tonight.
We've hit on a lot of things. Uh, you've got
you've got a lot to focus on for Tuesday. Uh.
Is there anything that we talked about or that we
didn't talk about, anything you'd like to cover or like
to bring up for our listeners and viewers of just
you know, want to let them know or just hit.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
ONH Well, I just appreciate them them tuning in, and
I just want to encourage them to wherever they're at nationwide,
just get involved locally because the fight is coming from
the left hardcore, and you know they don't most of
them don't, don't go to church. They invest all of
their time and treasure into defeating our our way of

(45:41):
thinking and and our way of living. And so we've
got to come back and fight just as hard. So
I just encourage everybody to stay in the fight for
our country, no matter where you're at.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Awesome. Yeah, And we just Rob just put up he
wants he wants to see advance Hamilton ticket for twenty
eight and he wants to see a marine. So oh yeah,
so you that if that happens, you may uh you know,
you may have to, you know, give up the district
to become second lady. I don't know if they like

(46:13):
you both, but uh no, so.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I'm done with this.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
That's it. Yeah, but awesome, Well, hey, great to great
to have you on. This is so what a great family.
I mean, I know you guys are just continuing to
get back and serving. Though you've already served the country,
now you're serving your community and still serving the country.
And uh, I hope people tune in, and I really

(46:40):
hope people have of District sixty two step up and
oli Virginia pay attention to this and and uh and
and put you over the line and and so and
also winning not only the primary but onto the general
election and represent that that district. Very as you said.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, very well, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Thank you, Karen. We'll be tuned, we'll be watching, and
I hope to be able to send the congrats on
your way Tuesday night or Wednesday morning and let you
know that we're behind you one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
All right, I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
All right, Well, thank you for giving us some of
your night, and you have a great night. And uh
you guys have a good one and good luck.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yep. Let's let's all pray for Israel and in our
country as well. Yep. Thanks, thanks so much, guys, Thank
you all right. God bless
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