June 30, 2024 • 55 mins
Tom, Ted, Edmundo, Santiago Beltran, Ty Keough and others put a bow on the latest era of St. Louis United FC Soccer Sunday.
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Yeah, this is the beautiful friend, this is the uh my only friend.
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Oh damask Cavageo's boys and girls andanyone else within the sound of My
Boys. Welcome back to year thirteenof the longest running discussion of Jogo Bonito
in Saint Louis radio history. SelUnited Soccer Sunday on KFN S five ninety
The Fan. Today's show, likeevery show, is brought to you by
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our friend Mark Niemeyer at n yK law Fern dot com, a Saint
Louis law firm with local roots andnationwide results. The Santiago A Trump from
new Esports Media and the Spanish Boysof Saint Louis CDs on ks OK one
O two point nine fame. Today. Today I'm joined by Today I'm joined
by from Fox Sports Daniel Steve usm and T captain and longtime USA im
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MLS coach Mike Sorber, possibly fromthe Saint Louis Post Dispatch, the Dean
of Saint Louis Soccer reportat Tom Timmermanfrom flywer Footy, our expert of the
XS and host of CdSe Mad BakerSaint Louis Soccer Legends, Bill McDermott,
and tai Qio super Ted Williams runningthe board and now the host of this
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show, Miamigo is suamigo, misterdom swod impressive. Wow, I'm I'm
out of a job. You're outof a job. Well, it turns
out you are amount of a jobexactly. But I mean thank you Santiago,
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ladies and gentlemen, Thank you everybody, thanks for joining us on this
momentous day. Got some changes comingdown the road. You might have noticed
the change in the music. Whatwell, the the uh, the doors,
I mean the end. It's beenbeen an interesting week in the media
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for us. So here's your hostagain, mister. It has been an
interesting week in the media because wefound out that, you know what's gonna
happen. What's going to happen isthat this station is not going to do
local programming anymore. It's going tobe uh. They even changed their name
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to like Fox Network or something likethat. Uh and uh. So this
is our last show at this particularvenue. Ruth Harker walks in. How
you doing. Yeah, well,you smelled the champagne. You thought it
was time to come in. Tedtold me there would be surprises number one,
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So we don't know what we're gonnado. You know, Auto orf
Oh doesn't even know what we're gonnado. No, Auto orph one of
my favorite names. Hitting you knowwho else doesn't know what we're gonna be
doing. The Lawyer who abides Ah, Richard Walter Bear, He doesn't know
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what we're gonna do. Nobody isgonna do knows what we're gonna do,
but we do know that. Likewhen I drove up today, these words
popped into my mind, and Ifeel, given the comments I've gotten from
friends this week, a job welldone. I feel like we've done a
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good job at whatever the hell itis we do. Yeah, you know
what we do? Yeah, wewe attained. The goal that I think
you set out was that this showshould have the atmosphere that we had experienced
for for years with our comrades playingMonday night basketball, of just sitting around
the bar, shooting the breeze aboutsometimes making up stories, sometimes making up
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stories, sometimes certainly embellishing, embellishing, you know, putting it. I
love the league in embellishment. Yeah, Tommy's open. Tom is open.
So it's so that has been thathas been a success, and I think
the level of one more thing,the level of the talent that has chosen
to participate on a regular basis inthis show, I think, including our
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guests sitting in, including this guest, this guest, and this guest.
You know, Okay, well youknow Daniel. We're gonna at to Daniel
later, Daniels. But Ruth Harkerjust stopped in and with us is Mike
Sorber, who had agreed, foolishlyagreed before we got this news Wednesday about
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the end of this show. Bythe way, on this at this time,
on this station, this is theend. So it's an end of
It's an end of indeed, anend of air. Jim Hershey, calmed
down in Cambodia. Geez, it'snot the end. I was joking.
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I mean, I was joking aboutit. It's not the end. It's
the end on this station. JimHershey, you're not our Colonel Kurtz,
so just take it. Just calmdown, Jim, have another drink.
But anyway, Mike Sorber, asI said, foolishly agreed to come in
and join us. But he's here. How you doing, man, doing
great? Thank you? So Iguess you were surprised when I told you
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Hey, this is gonna be ourlast show. Yeah, I was surprised.
All good things come to an end, but that just means something new
is going to start up. Sowho knows what that will be, but
I'm looking forward to seeing what itis. Yeah, I think it's gonna
I have a pretty good feeling thatthere will be a next step, a
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next chapter what I've been experiencing inlife at this stage of life. I
turned seventy four on Friday. Youknow, I was so disturbed Thursday night
after the debate. I literally couldn'tgo to sleep, but I had to
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go to sleep because I thought,you know, that's stupid not to go
to sleep, But that's kind ofwhat life is like, right, you
know that that's what it is.And I was thinking, well, man,
I don't I don't want to haveone of those Mitch McConnell moments on
the radio, you know, whereyou're just like stearing what you know.
And then we saw Joe Biden doit, and I said, well,
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maybe this there's a lesson here,Tom, Maybe it's time to close this
chapter before you really say something reallystupid and really regrettable, as if I
haven't already. That's gonna say thata horse kind of left the bar.
Yeah, a few years ago.But that's fine, part of the color.
What do you want to talk abouttoday? This is your segment.
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Good question, Tom, let's talk. Let's just talk about soccer. Okay,
you go right, What did youtell me as a veteran player.
I'll admit I haven't, I've Ihave not. I didn't see the game
the other night because I was beingdepressed out of my mind by that debate.
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But what what was your what's yourreaction to the United States performance in
Copa America. Before I get tothe performance. Look, it's a great
summer right now because you have CopeAmerica, you have the Euros, you
still have MLS going on. Soyeah, every day you get a couple
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two to four games and it's endless. So if you like the game and
you want to see different styles anddifferent ideas, yeah, this has been
my eyeballs are falling out. Sowhen you talk about performance, Look,
it's easy to be a critic andit's easy to judge from the outside.
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And I like to say everybody's anexpert until you get the job. Yeah,
so yeah, it's not easy.And the one thing that continues to
be a part of today's world.Is everybody likes to talk. It's coaches,
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players, teams, clubs, nations. Everybody has something to say,
but you know the result is inthe performance. So yeah, they have
a big game coming up against Uruguay. Uruguay's been playing well and it'll be
very interesting for sure, because youdon't need to do any more talking.
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It just needs to be about howthe team plays, how the individuals play,
how it comes together. And that'sthe beauty of this sport is you
can't predict it ahead of time.It's only after ninety plus minutes that you
get the final results. Okay,you are a person who has experience in
playing in way different leagues with differentrefs, because I want you to talk
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about this in watching the Euros,like the new rule this year about only
the captain can address the official.I think it's a really good idea personally,
because proof of that is to watchCope America where almost every player of
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each team is in the ref's faceand he's like he's just gonna walk away,
right. I mean I was thinkingthey ought to grab the ball and
people are a yapping at him eithertake ought to take five paces toward the
goal of the guy's yapping at himor away from the goal if the other
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just to do something or to goto What the Euros have done is that
one guy can address the Yeah,it's a bad reflection of the game and
it's only gotten worse. Yeah,the antics on the sidelines with the coaches,
Yeah, players trying to influence decisionsor put pressure constantly, constantly,
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constantly is is it's it's not funto watch that. You want to see
the game and everybody's human mistakes aremade. Yeah, there's a lot more
money on the line. And again, in today's world with Twitter and social
media, everybody has something to say, so everybody feels empowered, and that's
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only gotten worse. So you know, maybe through some good regulations or rules
or decisions by leagues and sports thatcould help influence a new positive way to
look at things, or how tonot just make it a ridiculous show show
and make it about bring it backto the game. Daniel, what do
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you think of that? Tom,I'm still trying to figure out the intro
where we said this was a soccershow. I'm still trying to wrap my
head around that and I'm a littlelost in this tool keep trying, you
know, final show deal. Yeah, why has this been broadcasted this whole
time show? Yeah? Oh yeah, we've been on the air every week.
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Really, Yeah you didn't know that. Nobody told you? All right,
Well, so my brain's still tryingto wrap around that. But other
than that, I'm just really enjoyingyou giving me the point, giving me
the look from across the table,trying to drink that in a little bit.
Yeah, one step at a time, sweet Jesus. And with that
being said, I ignored everything youjust said, So okay, we'll shut
up. Then, Auntie, whatdo you think about that? About what?
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Okay, Sonty's so busy working aboutthe next intro, just drinking it
in. I haven't. I haven'thad a thought since Ruth Harker walked in
the door. Oh damn, ohmy agreement about the euro Cup, you
know, dressing the referee with justone the captain doing that, I just
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think it's a lot and it's notgoing to really solve anything on the field
on the pitch, just sort oftrying to intimidate and Hi a hight welcome,
thank you. We're playing, We'replaying musical. MIC's here because street
this is an absolute It's more thana pleasure to be here, it's an
obligation. But thank you very muchfor having me. Tom mister soccer his
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own self, Bill McDermott just walkedin next to number sixteen for the United
States Nationals. Hey, Hey,spend a couple of minutes talking about that
guy. About Mike. Yeah,yeah, Mike Storberg. I'm going to
talk about strictly, and so Icould talk about his whole career because I've
covered a goodly number of his gameswhen he was youth and then it's like
it's just a child. But forme, if you play for the national
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team, but more importantly, ifyou play in a World Cup, that
is the ultimate. It's the ultimatefor any soccer player. And if you
watch any of the United States gamesin ninety four, hopefully all of them,
the most consistent player in the fieldwas number sixteen. Mikes. Now,
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I would say this whether he wassitting next to me or not.
Never gave the ball away, madethe right choice, made a preposterous goal
line. Say it against Columbia somethingyou remember, bounced off his body,
bounced off the gold how'd you savethat, Mike. It was. It
was a crazy play. Yes,it hit it hit off my leg,
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hit off the post, came backto one of the Columbian players who took
a shot, and I slid andgot a piece of that, and then
luckily my teammates were there as wellto help clear it out. Clavijo,
So, was this Sprea close byor Carlos? Hey? Bill? Bill?
Is that typical of Mike's server?You say, well, Hey,
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Mike, I'm setting you up forone of the greatest plays I've ever seen.
Not like I've watched much soccer,but I'd just like to set you
up to describe your involvement in inin one of the greatest plays I've ever
seen. And he says like threewords, and he goes, well,
of course my teammate, Yeah,to think about it. But what Bobby
Tarlton said, And I think MichaWill attested this because his father not only
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offered us and gave us a fontof knowledge about local soccer Saint Louis soccer
in particular, but the world's gamein Flow Valley's gym. So Bobby Tarlton
said, an average player becomes good, good player becomes great by imitation of
role models in a neighborhood setting,and he grew up in that is precisely
how we all grew up in theSaint Louis area. Me in particular that
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you're a secrets if you were Irishand Roman Catholic and grew up in Nur
Saint Louis where I did in WalwaoPark, you played soccer, simple as
that. But with reference to that, we always thought we were in good
company because Jesus Christ himself was Irish, he was thirty three, only son,
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lived at home, didn't have ajob, hung around with the same
twelve guys, and his mom thoughthe was God and his mom bod he
was God. Three four five six, Bill, I've only heard that joke
a thousand times and it still makesme laugh. Well, you were talking
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about Europa. This confrontation of playersaround referees has got to stop, has
got to stop, and MLS isnotorious for it, and it's been happening
since nineteen ninety six. If youhave the captain's armband, you and you
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alone can approach your referee and talkto the referee. And because of Europa
and because of World Cups, wefound this in particular with World Cups,
there's twenty six thirty cameras at everygame. This embellishment has gotten to stop.
Yeah, they got to get Theyactually have to give cards, you
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red cards. Here's a way thatyou remedy it. If you don't do
it that during that game, ona var replay, you look at the
recording of the game afterwards, andif you find out that it a tackled
my hand, brushed your neck andyou go on the ground and hold your
face, you start the next gamewith the yellow card. Yeah, okay,
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I totally agree with that. It'sruining the spirit of the game.
Also, what's ruining the spirit ofthe game is when you strike a ball.
Let's for instance, let's say theright back flights a long ball to
the left winger, hangs in theair while the left winger hits it first
time, and the defender is standingin a penalty are and it hits him
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in the arm. Penalty kick.That's also ruining the spirit of the game.
The rule of soccer. Excuse me, the game of soccer needs one
more rule common sense. I sawthat, you know, I was going
to read that a little later.I saw that in your response to this
common sense. Yeah, no,that's that's absolutely okay. Hold on a
second, hey, folks, it'sSantiago with a quicker station. I d
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you are listening to Sucker Sunday KYFand it's five ninety five. We hear
a little Van Morrison of Caravan.I mean sorry, we're just fumbling here
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with the lack of mice. Whoscoming up? Worry about it? Worry
about what I asked you? Whatsong down the road? Oh? This
is traveling, this is getting readyto pull up. Wilbury's here. Okay,
well I don't have headphones. HavingWilbury is a big part, a
big part of Billions Damian Lewis seriesWhoa Yeah, Well, the sad thing
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about that song was when it wasfinally released, Roy Orbison had unfortunately passed.
So if you ever see the videowhen it gets to his solo,
there's just a beautiful frame photo ofit. Gil how about Roy Orbison's a
black and white night? Is thereanything like it? Not at all?
In the dreams? Baby, Hey, bill this isn't a damn music show.
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Excuse me, it's the stel SoccerSunday Show. Giliban's continues, don't
give me the mic, so nono unparalleled voice. And anyway you're listening
to KFN, that's five Night ofthe Fan and STO United Soccer. I'm
saying, I am, I amin a rut, I'm a habit.
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Anyway, we are back, gladto have everybody. We have a studio
full of great guests today and we'regoing to get right back to him.
Here's your host, mister Thomas Wartz. Super secret text line otto Graham coming
in lot and clear in the heightswhatever that means. Can I have a
address of question to Sussy, Yesyou can. Are we gonna ever see
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on Columbia a partnership like Carlos Valdoramaand Lanol Alvarez. Oh, that's gonna
have to That's gonna be hard touh to top. I think his styles
are different now the number ten,well, you have Hamis, but I
don't think there is somebody like isthat you could have the same learnership or
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the hair protection. Mike, haveyou ever seen a ten shirt do more
by just standing in a center circle? Well, I mean the one guy
who does a lot in the numberten jersey is messy. Everybody would say
he walks around a lot, butuh, Yeah, Valderama was different.
His his brain worked in a ina really creative way. He had great
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touch, he had great vision,and he could put out an amazing pass
MESSI can put out the past.Annie can finish. Hey Bill, Hey
Bill, Can I interrupt a second? Yeah? I want to ask Mike
as a fobbed question about the Columbianplayers. I want to ask Mike about
his July fourth, nineteen ninety fourgame. Again. Okay, hold that
because Daniel has Daniel can't stay thewhole time, Daniel, Bill, Daniel's
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gotta doing. He's got a doubleheader, He's got two games today. Oh,
he's a real one eighty man.I only came to recruit. I've
got three players ready to go righthere. Oh, bring Mike sober On.
That'll keep him quiet. Oh.At midfield, I do the work
of two people laarln Hardy, butless than fall three, four or five.
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I'll be GM of the year ifI pull up for a couple of
these guys. Oh, I think, Bill, you've been saving this stuff
up. This is somebody said tome, Well, you know I can't.
I can't turn on the radio withouthere and Bill mcdermoy. Well,
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unfortunately, yeah, but I saidto them, but you won't hear him
like you hear him on my showbecause that that though literally the week before
you were singing and I can't rememberwho you were singing along to. I
can't recall, but yes, right, go ahead with your go ahead with
your phone. I wanted to askMike about I asked Santy about whether it
be a partnership far Columbia in thefuture, like Lano Alvarez involved Rama together.
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How about for Brazil, Mike,because it's it's blatantly obvious right now
that they don't have a ro MarioBebeto combination or do they your eyes,
No, they don't and they don'thave doom Gun Mario Silva. Everything starts
in the middle of the field andit's such a The whole team plays off
of that. And when you watchBrazil, yeah, they seem to be
struggling in a few different areas,but doom Gun Mario Silva, Yeah,
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they were such a key ingredient toBebeto and ro Mario that they allowed those
two to have the creativity and worktogether. What a combination. Ro Mario
was was so quick and a greatfinisher in Debeto was so clever in his
runs and finishing as well, sothey were a lethal combination. You as
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a midfielder, have you ever seenanyone more efficient with their passing from either
the center circle or preferably for him, lying a little bit deeper almost the
center back at times than number eightfor Germany Tony Cruz. He's spectacular.
Yeah, totally controls the flow ofthe way they play. Bill, haven't
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you been paying attention? It's notTony Cruz, it's starting Colt. What
the hell? Oh? What didRichie Bear say? I'm sorry. The
lawyer who abides said this, knockit off. Derek ray Tye said last
week, two weeks ago, hesaid, you know that's that's not his
real voice. If you talk tohim, he's like got you know,
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he grew up in San Diego.I've done quite a few games with Derek
as has tie and I'm sure tyhas told you when you're sitting next to
him ready to go on the air, it's pretty much just talking like this.
Then all of a sudden, weplayed for Glasgow Celtic and you can't
understand them. We're Jimmy Johnstone.Okay, here's my biggest complaint about the
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Fox. Praise Jah for Fox.This has been unbelievable, the coverage of
the Euros and the COPA. Butuse announcers that speak English because we're in
America. No offense, Antie.Most people their first language is English and
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they're kind of used to Americans.You cannot tell me there aren't people in
America with Midwestern accents that can describesoccer. Oh, I could think maybe
Bill McDermott for one, But tohave Derek ray On and whoever they got.
Here's how I watch most games.I got the game on. I
may have a different game on theother TV, and I'm probably working,
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might be cleaning my garage. Imight be well, I won't have to
worry about working on the log fora while, something like that, and
the game's on. You never worriedabout working on the night. I worried
a lot because I wasn't doing it. And it's Friday, then it's SAT
regardless. But so what was Ieven saying? You can't interrupt me,
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because then I can't remember I wastalking about? Oh, now I remember,
so Derek ray and Peter Green,who I thought was with Fleetwood Mac
is now apparently an announcer and they'recalling the game. So I'm watching the
game like I like JP Doug Kramertwo a lot because he's a nice guy
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and he lets me know when something'shappening by the intonation of his voice and
his commentary. These guys are talkingand Derek Ray, what did you call
it? Over pronunciation? I believeit's I don't even know what I don't
Was it a goal? You know? Is in V A R have?
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This is America. Let us understandthe commentary of a big game. And
we furthermore understand the fact that youknow a different language and you are disseminating
this information to the public. Okay, we get that. Don't try so
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hard, so hard to go overboardwith it, Daniel, Are you gonna
say anything? No? Why?Actually, for for a few reasons.
One, I've said I've spoken whattwice, and I've our and I and
I've spoken too much. It's true, this is the only thing I'll say.
And I've already talked to Tom aboutthis. And I'm only saying this
because because I probably have to run. But I made a point to come
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this morning despite the fact that I'mprobably one of the newest members of this
little this little team. But atleast in my experience and for the rest
of my life, this show hasbeen the oddest experience but perhaps one of
the most important experiences since I movedto Saint Louis and beyond, and with
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all the memories that come with thetime I've had with this show, which
is continuing but just in a differentway. Maybe I won't have to fight
to wake up in the morning forit. The essence of the show is
exactly what's happening right now. AndI'm very aware that this twelve year run,
twelve plus year run, I've beenlucky to be a part of two
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years of it or a year ofit, but this is it, Like,
you guys are the show. SoI'm just you know, I'm super
thankful to you, Tom and toyou guys, but there are a lot
of reasons for me to not talkat all, and today it's just to
sit back and enjoy how you uniqueand special this this show that you guys
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are put together in Thanks man,Well you remember this song if you're of
a certain age. Every day,every Saturday morning, Roy and Dale,
we're on Trigger and Buttermilk, ridingdown the trail facing the camera and they
would be singing that. So it'sa nice send off. I sent this
out to Mike work colleagues on mylast hit from the job years ago.
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So which is always kind of debatable. I have a hitch one. Is
it happy trails? Yea happy trails, do you? Which is what they're
gonna be. Ladies and gentlemen.We're gonna step away right now and pay
bill, So don't go anywhere.You're listening to SEO United Soccer Sunday coming
to you live from kfn S fiveninety the fan in Saint Louis for one
more week. This is it.It's you know, the first Damacunia Monacuna.
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Yes, tamos de Regreso Santiago isstan Escucando Saint Louis United Soccer Sunday
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That's a hard follow. Yeah,here's your host once again, the recent
birthday boy, mister Tom Schwartz.Thomas take it. We have two perfect
day people in the same studio.Oh Ruth Harker and myself were both born
on the perfect day, and I'vehad that explain to me like a million
times, and I still don't understand. It's something to do with numbers.
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Terry has explained that to us,I don't know how many times, and
it's one of those things that whensomeone's explaining it to you, you go,
oh, yeah, all right,yeah, it makes sense, But
what the hell are you about.Five minutes later, somebody says, what
did she say? You will?It's did you explain it to me?
Well, it's something about both numberssix and in two and eight or primary
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numbers or something. Yeah, butit's literally, listen, you have to
be a mathematistic wells. I've neverheard that before. I just thought it
was because we were perfect. Ohyou never heard that before. We have
to look it up, if youIf you yes, Bill, I'm just
listening Archimedes. But I do wantto ask the studio, since it's going
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to be or seemingly is turning intoa young man's game, irrespective of the
occasional thirty seven and thirty eight yearold younger players like le min Yamal playing
in euro at six teen, Mike, how is that possible. It's phenomenal,
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isn't it. Yeah, it's phenomenal. I mean yeah, some things
are hard to understand or to describe. But age doesn't matter when you're young.
If you have it, you haveit, yeah, and you can't
teach it. Deserve to be onthe field, h Santia, What about
Arta Guler the Turkish MESSI he's eighteen, he's in Turkey's first eleven. Excuse
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me, excuse me, he's inTurkey A's first eleven. To wait a
second, wait a second, Turkeyeight I don't don't ask me, Tom
Well, you're pronouncing it the song. It's turk Kyrie always in Kyrie's.
Oh it's finally they have given themthe recognition that he deserves. So it's
turky I'm sorry to correct you,Bill pronouncing a Turkey a during the They
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can do that in this studio.Excuse me, Turkyri, isn't that right?
Santi? I don't know. You'retell me, well, I am
telling you. It's your segment.What are you going to talk about?
Okay, okay, we'll go inSpanish. Come on, man, still
got night. I'm on, let'shave one goal, three of them.
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But blasting enough, But are wegonna do CDSC Let me ask the Bill
first. Okay, No, we'regoing to talk about this is your segment.
You can talk about whatever you want. Should there, Let's ask Santi
and let's ask Mike in particular orwhatever Bill was because he sped in Major
League Soccer and I'll get out,No, you're not. Should there's still
be don't let him go six venuesin Major League Soccer with artificial surface?
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No, no, how can thispossibly happen in two thousand, in twenty
four money? Because they won't changethe venues. Mike, correct, No,
they can change the venue. It'sjust about power and grandfathered in and
not willing to make the change atthis point, which begs the follow up
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question. In twenty twenty six,every venue in the United States is a
football venue. Consequently, the samething that's happening for Copa America is going
to have to happen for the WorldCup. Is it going to work?
I don't know, but I hateit. I hate that all these stadiums
for the twenty twenty six World Cupare footballert stadiums. Yeah, I get
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it, Like you want to havea stadiums with sixty seventy thousand people.
But to me, it takes alittle bit of the motion from having a
full soccer stadium. And I knowthe US doesn't have the infrastructure to have
ten eleven soccer specific a stadiums atfifty six, but I don't know.
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To me, just having these venues, I don't like it. Kansas City
is going to have some games thatarrowhead and I think it just to me,
it takes a little bit of theemotion and the tradition of playing that
apps. And the fields aren't thesame size, right I mean, some
of them are not the same size. Some of them right now are way
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too narrow. Yeah, five yardsI've heard, and believe it or not,
you know ninety four when every naysayerin the world, in particular journalist
overseas, is how can they possiblyhave World Cup in the United States.
They don't have an existing league,They have no pedigree in the World Cup
other than nineteen thirty when they endedup in third place, perhaps nineteen fifty
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with the England game. As itturns out, the most successful World Cup
in the history of the event,sixty eight nine and ninety one was the
average. Well, they were turningout Mike Sarberg states, oh, precisely
in the United States planted attractive brandof soccer and in the astounding news to
beat Columbia along the way, whichI'm sorry, Santa can bring that up
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against you that I'm sorry, goodlord, he were you even born yet?
I mean, Bill, that's justI'm not I'm older than what do
you think. Yeah, that's oneof my first sad soccer memories because Colombia
came to that word Cup as afavorite and he was supposed to do really
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well, and just things fell apart. During the group of stage play no
less than play had said that Columbiais the country to beat the country to
win the World Cup. In ninetyfour, I had two Colombian games at
Stanford Stanford Stadium in Polato. Soconsequently I had some VHS recordings, yes
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VHS and you they did not givethe ball away led by Carlos Valderrama.
And again the only reason I bringup Lane Alivarez it is if you touched
Carlos Valderrama the next close play,you were getting a bone crusher two feet
over the top from Landa Alvarez andthat was a given. But then on
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a flame let Freddie Ringcone Fastino AspriyaA treat to wash. Let the editor
note that Santi is smiling when youwere talking about those two footed challenges.
I just want you to be awareof that. That's that's his that's in
his heart right now, So youmight not want to ask him that third
time. But Santi. I spokewith Francisco Maturana two days after that game
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because we had a Columbia game stillupcoming. He literally could hardly make a
sentence. He was so shaken upstill from that game. Maybe that's what
happened to Biden the other night.That guy guarded and he just couldn't speak
any He was getting ready. Hethought there might have been a two footer
coming from Alvarez or either. Younever know, woll Bill, That's that's
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surprising from Francisco Maturana. But thisis one of the reasons what I love
being on this show listening from youguys, memories you talk about Colombia and
reminded remind me of bad memories andmy player Columbia. But this is one
of the things I love. AndI was reflecting. I was telling Tom,
reflecting on my time on the show. I haven't been here for too
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long. The first time I camewas in twenty nineteen, and you weren't
You weren't here, you were outof town. That wee can But I
met ted and came. How didyou get in if I wasn't here.
Oh they waited because of my Theyknow how much I hate people from Colombia.
Maybe maybe maybe that's what I gotthe invite. Yeah, And then
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because I'm so mad about that technormally the next time they told me,
don't tell Tom you're from Colombia.I played along, so now he wears
his shirt it's Colombia. But no, I have enjoyed the time here,
meeting some soccer legends like you guys, meeting Rude, meeting Taikyo, just
hearing about all the stories and allthis soccer knowledge do you guys have?
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Is been great. And Tom,I we know. This is not a
goodbye, This is just see youlater. This is an audios. Yeah,
watch this space. Another follow upwith relation to the history of Columbia
and soccer. The World Cup wassupposed to be there in eighty six.
Is there ever ever any talk ofit possibly going back to Columbia someday?
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No? No, I don't.I don't think that's gonna happen. It
just requires a huge investment. Andthat's why Colombia rejected it. At the
time. I was too young atthe time to understand, but just reading
about it, I think it wasthe right choice. The country didn't have
the money to the infrastructure to thinkabout, like how this is working for
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Germany. The structures set in everyplace they show is nuts, right right
seventy to eighty thousand at a watchparty in Berlin watching Germany play together.
To me, the Euros is thebest sorry santi the best competition because all
those countries at some time their ancestorskilled ancestors from the other countries they're playing,
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or one country was you know,dominating the other. And there is
a fundamentalness of the hatred that exists, and a goodly number of the people
that you're referring to display that nationalismthrough their national teams. Exactly, they
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don't kill each other anymore. Theteams go out and kill each other,
right, and nobody dies, right. But I mean that that to me
is the most impressive thing about theuh Euros. Well, little rim taking
us to a station id here,this is one of their better known songs.
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I think I thought it was appropriateand send them over to you then.
For I don't know how I feelabout Arim because I saw him one
time out at Riverport, and Iwas the guys who were playing seemed bored,
you know, And I'm sure thatall musicians go through that, even
swamp Dog. Right, you getup there and a guy, We've played
this a million times, but youdon't act like it right, acting like
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it, and I just wanted toleave, and I kind of liked them
till then, well, it's theend of the world as we I think.
Yes, I'm pretty certain this isthe music they play for Guantanamo Bay
prisoners to make them talk talk.Welcome back. Oh that was good Bill,
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Bill McDermott, Welcome back. You'relistening to STL United Soccer Sunday coming
to you live from kf It's timefor Bill's segment, and it's time.
Oh it is, Yeah, itsays right here on the log I see
that. Well, let's play hisfavorite song into the world as we know
it. I have two soccer memoriesbecause I have to leave shortly too,
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because Queen Elizabeth, our oldest daughter. Yeah, she her husband and our
three grandchildren are back from Spain.Oh, they're back. They're back.
They got back yesterday after a sixmonth stint. Mike, Okay, they're
going to Tuscany, Rome, Ireland. Oh, by the way, they're
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also going to school while they're overthere. They send me a picture from
the Berna Bayo when they're over therefor a game study. I'm either at
City Park, Hermann Stadium are thesoccer park. They're at the Bernabeyu watching
Real Madrid. And Elizabeth goes,who didn't you tell me that number seven?
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It's Venisius Junior. He's good.Yeah. Two soccer memories, one
of which involve Colombia in nineteen.This is a good one, though,
Santi this is a good one.Santa fe Agus Los main Agos. Oh,
oh, I want to hear aboutthat. And Shekhlaric shek A Laric
was playing for Les Millionarios. HowYugoslav Indiana ended up playing with Les Millionarios.
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Who knows. Shech Alaric was oneof the greatest dribblers of all time,
played for Yugoslavia, played for theSaint Louis Stars when Rudy Gutendarf was
coaching, So the front three wasRudy cooble Boracoustic and Dragoslav Sheklaric. How
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does that happen? Nonetheless, itdoes, and that was an ESL at
the time. Chuck a Laric meetsus in the lobby of the hotel because
he was friends with Miguel de Lima. Now he hasn't seen Miguel de Lima
in decades, so he introduces theteam to Shuck Alaric and Shuck a Lark's
first sentence to Miguel is tell themhow good I was? Not Hi,
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how are you? It's wonderful tosee you after forty years? Tell them
how good I was? Bill,You've been doing that to me for that's
thirty years. Another great story.My first World Cup assignment on television was
the ninety four World Cup for ESPN. So my venue is Palo Alto.
My two venues are Palo Alto andthe Rose Bowl. Brazil was at Palo
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Alto. We did three Brazil games. They trained at Santa Clara. They
had a young seventeen year old bythe name of Ronaldo who they brought for
the explicit purpose of putting on thefield. If for Mario ever came out
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for any reason, if he unfortuallygot injured. Ronaldo was going in.
He never stepped foot on American soilat the ninety four or Old Cup,
but at Santa Clara in training,I've never in my life have seen anything
like this. A ball would beplayed out of the back, like Mike
said, from a midfielder, eitherMarl Silva tunga on the ground at his
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feet, receive turn and ran atthe goal. And if he could do
fifty stepovers in the process, thatwould exactly what he would do. And
he would do these stepovers at topspeed. In another training session, Zagallo
is there that Cascados Abotobada is gonescouting into the country. Dounga puts a
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tackle on ro Mario Mario's Agallo blowsthe whistle blows. Now Miguel's standing next
to me, so I don't understand, I understand what Sagallo's staying in Portuguese.
In essence, he's saying, Idon't care who the you are if
you touch him, if anybody toucheshim, you'll never wear a yellow shirt
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again. Pretty severe. They didn'twant anyone to even think about touching the
Mario because he was their ticket.Can't no, no, everything, I'm
sure Michael tell you this. Everythingbetween Mario but Beto, Dounga, Mario
Silva, anything coming out of theback was all triangles and they looked for
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each other immediately on the ground attheir feet. The people running into the
openings was preposterous. But Ro Marioran the show. You know, Santi,
you said before how this is thepart that you really enjoy and this
is what I had in mind,I think when we foolishly decided to start
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the show, and Ed mentioned itearlier. For me, this show comes
out of two sources like Thanksgiving dinnersat my house and the adults sitting around
the table and just dying to getinto that conversation whatever the hell they were
(46:35):
talking about. And the second oneis Monday nights after basketball at Obie Clark's,
particularly when you start telling your jokesbecause all of what you're stolen,
well, sure, when Bill,when Bill starts a story, a joke
slash story at Obie Clark's on aMonday night, Let's say there can be
(47:00):
anywhere from five to fifty people there, and let's say there is the let's
say they're twenty people there. Billstarts, which seems like a story if
you've never heard it before, right, because he's done it so many times.
Well, that's like the time,you know, and you can see
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the new guys are going, Ohman, this is mister soccer. I
don't know anything about soccer, butI'm gonna listen to him, and you
can see him. They're kind oflike key and in and Bill's inflection is
perfect because he's looking and he knowshe's got some guys hooked. Right.
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The majority of us have heard thejoke fifty times minimum, and we're watching
these guys too, for when arethey going to get you know, because
we know when he's going to dropthe punchline because we've heard it so many
times. When are these guys goingto get it? He drops a punchline
three two one, Oh. Thatthat that's uh, that's where this show
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has come from. And that's wherethis show is exactly today. I couldn't
ask for anything better than this.This is well, I have to leave
shortly, So this is the mainpurpose for me coming in first. And
fore mostly I own apology to Ruthbecause she's on a microphone. I pulled
over towards me and Ruth hasn't saidanything since two. That's my fault.
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That is my fault, and Ithoroughly admitted I apologize for it. I
didn't know Mike was going to behere. I knew, I knew Santi
and Jed and everybody else was goingto be here. He didn't mind stepping
on us. But I want tothank you very very much for what Daniel
said. It was. It wasan odd program. That's okay, that's
(48:59):
fine. We want Odd on AMradio. We want iMOS again. We
want iMOS in Saint Louis. Wewant Jack Carney. We do not want
the weather, a repetition of scores, a traffic jam on Highway, farty
at Big Bend. We don't care. Excuse me, some people care about
that. But what we want whenyou say it's a soccer show is we
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want to hear about soccer. Anda lot of venues, a lot of
different stations don't really give true tributeto the sport of soccer around the world,
World Cups, Europa, but inparticular here in Saint Louis. And
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it is mandatory that the people inSaint Louis who are going to city games
are standing on the shoulders of PeteSorber, George Mahalovich, Harry Keeo,
Bill Louby, Bob Rooney, Pete, and John Booty Calcaterra. This did
not just fall to the sky twoyears ago. There was a reason why
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Saint Louis has always been this way. The two pillars of sport for continuity
and experience and respectability in the cityof Saint Louis are baseball and soccer.
This community is largely largely founded bythe world's game, which became America's game
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because of Saint Louis and the exposureyou give it is invaluable no matter how
it's delivered. We're talking about soccer, and that's because of you, Time,
So thank you for anybody who's evenlooked at a soccer ball, much
less kicked one. Thank you veryvery much for giving so much exposure to
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indeed the world's game, which isSaint Louis. Well said Bill, and
I'll just say thanks to Time.I have to run and I look forward
to the next chapter. It's gonnabe a beauty. Thanks guys, Thanks
Tad, Ruth and Ruth apologize yetagain, Santy, any more Columbia stories.
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So you mentioned media narios against SantaFe. Did you go to that
game, Yes, sir, Andone of the one of the things that
happened, the left winger, excuseme, the left back send a ball
over the top of everyone to theright winger coming in. The goalkeeper comes
out to try to punch this clear. Well, he realizes it's well well
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beyond his grasp. He's at thetip of the penalty area arc, and
he heads the ball out to Santythe center circle. Now we're out of
our mind. Mark Demmling is jumpingup and down. Oh much. Did
you ever in your life? Miguelleans over. He says, Bill,
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They do it all the time.Yeah, yeah, in Colombia that was
pretty common, especially with just havingthat uh that sweeper keeper that will be
outside of the box, and inthis case he wasn't that way. But
yeah, they will come and,uh just clear the ball anyway they could,
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Mike, what would Bora do ifone of the American goalkeepers try to
scorpion kick to save the ball offhis own goal line? As well as
all right, Tom, thank youvery very much, thanks to let me
drop in. Sorry Ruth for mepulling up. Bob Hope, stop apologizing.
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I got to introduce you, Bob, you were great. Who was
it, Jimmy not Jimmy Kenney,Jimmy Duranty, Jimmy Granny. What do
you say? Can I miss goodnight? Missus Calabash, wherever you are?
Missus Calabash. To follow up onthat sentence, Missus Calibash was the
first woman who provided him someplace tostay at a dramatically reduced rate when he
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couldn't afford anything. So, MissusCalabash, can you do his voice?
I cannot do, Jimy, becauseit was kind of like a good night,
miss Cabbage? Where you are?Yes? That was his sign off?
Is this Gail's man? Yes,that's Gail right there. Oh good
(53:30):
Gail. Turn it up. Ohturn it You're gonna send it top.
Okay, Well, let's finishing upthis first segment, first hour the show
today Dead taking us out with trucking. What a long strange trip it's been,
and brother that says it all.Stay where you are. We'll be
right back with more in just afew minutes. KFN S five ninety the
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fan Sto United Soccer Show One moretime. She lost to follow you know,
she hid in the same living onreds fighting and seeing cooking, while
a friend can say, is anythe shap cook again? Up the blog
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again? You got the nether Soit takes time, get the place to
go, and just keep chucking ofhome home, sitting and staring out of
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the hotel window. Got it,Tim, they're gonna keep indoor in again.
I like to gets let's sleep beforeI travel. What if you got
a range? I guess you're gonnacome here, plust it down on Purpin
Street, set up the boney innot down. I guess the way everything
(55:00):
just won that you be dre justlike a hanging around, and you,
like a traveler, get tired oftraveling. You want to settle down.
I guess I can't refocus all thetime.
Yeah, this is the beautiful friend, this is the uh my only friend.
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Oh damask Cavageo's boys and girls andanyone else within the sound of My
Boys. Welcome back to year thirteenof the longest running discussion of Jogo Bonito
in Saint Louis radio history. SelUnited Soccer Sunday on KFN S five ninety
The Fan. Today's show, likeevery show, is brought to you by
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our friend Mark Niemeyer at n yK law Fern dot com, a Saint
Louis law firm with local roots andnationwide results. The Santiago A Trump from
new Esports Media and the Spanish Boysof Saint Louis CDs on ks OK one
O two point nine fame. Today. Today I'm joined by Today I'm joined
by from Fox Sports Daniel Steve usm and T captain and longtime USA im
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MLS coach Mike Sorber, possibly fromthe Saint Louis Post Dispatch, the Dean
of Saint Louis Soccer reportat Tom Timmermanfrom flywer Footy, our expert of the
XS and host of CdSe Mad BakerSaint Louis Soccer Legends, Bill McDermott,
and tai Qio super Ted Williams runningthe board and now the host of this
(01:47):
show, Miamigo is suamigo, misterdom swod impressive. Wow, I'm I'm
out of a job. You're outof a job. Well, it turns
out you are amount of a jobexactly. But I mean thank you Santiago,
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ladies and gentlemen, Thank you everybody, thanks for joining us on this
momentous day. Got some changes comingdown the road. You might have noticed
the change in the music. Whatwell, the the uh, the doors,
I mean the end. It's beenbeen an interesting week in the media
(02:27):
for us. So here's your hostagain, mister. It has been an
interesting week in the media because wefound out that, you know what's gonna
happen. What's going to happen isthat this station is not going to do
local programming anymore. It's going tobe uh. They even changed their name
(02:52):
to like Fox Network or something likethat. Uh and uh. So this
is our last show at this particularvenue. Ruth Harker walks in. How
you doing. Yeah, well,you smelled the champagne. You thought it
was time to come in. Tedtold me there would be surprises number one,
(03:19):
So we don't know what we're gonnado. You know, Auto orf
Oh doesn't even know what we're gonnado. No, Auto orph one of
my favorite names. Hitting you knowwho else doesn't know what we're gonna be
doing. The Lawyer who abides Ah, Richard Walter Bear, He doesn't know
(03:44):
what we're gonna do. Nobody isgonna do knows what we're gonna do,
but we do know that. Likewhen I drove up today, these words
popped into my mind, and Ifeel, given the comments I've gotten from
friends this week, a job welldone. I feel like we've done a
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good job at whatever the hell itis we do. Yeah, you know
what we do? Yeah, wewe attained. The goal that I think
you set out was that this showshould have the atmosphere that we had experienced
for for years with our comrades playingMonday night basketball, of just sitting around
the bar, shooting the breeze aboutsometimes making up stories, sometimes making up
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stories, sometimes certainly embellishing, embellishing, you know, putting it. I
love the league in embellishment. Yeah, Tommy's open. Tom is open.
So it's so that has been thathas been a success, and I think
the level of one more thing,the level of the talent that has chosen
to participate on a regular basis inthis show, I think, including our
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guests sitting in, including this guest, this guest, and this guest.
You know, Okay, well youknow Daniel. We're gonna at to Daniel
later, Daniels. But Ruth Harkerjust stopped in and with us is Mike
Sorber, who had agreed, foolishlyagreed before we got this news Wednesday about
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the end of this show. Bythe way, on this at this time,
on this station, this is theend. So it's an end of
It's an end of indeed, anend of air. Jim Hershey, calmed
down in Cambodia. Geez, it'snot the end. I was joking.
(05:40):
I mean, I was joking aboutit. It's not the end. It's
the end on this station. JimHershey, you're not our Colonel Kurtz,
so just take it. Just calmdown, Jim, have another drink.
But anyway, Mike Sorber, asI said, foolishly agreed to come in
and join us. But he's here. How you doing, man, doing
great? Thank you? So Iguess you were surprised when I told you
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Hey, this is gonna be ourlast show. Yeah, I was surprised.
All good things come to an end, but that just means something new
is going to start up. Sowho knows what that will be, but
I'm looking forward to seeing what itis. Yeah, I think it's gonna
I have a pretty good feeling thatthere will be a next step, a
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next chapter what I've been experiencing inlife at this stage of life. I
turned seventy four on Friday. Youknow, I was so disturbed Thursday night
after the debate. I literally couldn'tgo to sleep, but I had to
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go to sleep because I thought,you know, that's stupid not to go
to sleep, But that's kind ofwhat life is like, right, you
know that that's what it is.And I was thinking, well, man,
I don't I don't want to haveone of those Mitch McConnell moments on
the radio, you know, whereyou're just like stearing what you know.
And then we saw Joe Biden doit, and I said, well,
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maybe this there's a lesson here,Tom, Maybe it's time to close this
chapter before you really say something reallystupid and really regrettable, as if I
haven't already. That's gonna say thata horse kind of left the bar.
Yeah, a few years ago.But that's fine, part of the color.
What do you want to talk abouttoday? This is your segment.
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Good question, Tom, let's talk. Let's just talk about soccer. Okay,
you go right, What did youtell me as a veteran player.
I'll admit I haven't, I've Ihave not. I didn't see the game
the other night because I was beingdepressed out of my mind by that debate.
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But what what was your what's yourreaction to the United States performance in
Copa America. Before I get tothe performance. Look, it's a great
summer right now because you have CopeAmerica, you have the Euros, you
still have MLS going on. Soyeah, every day you get a couple
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two to four games and it's endless. So if you like the game and
you want to see different styles anddifferent ideas, yeah, this has been
my eyeballs are falling out. Sowhen you talk about performance, Look,
it's easy to be a critic andit's easy to judge from the outside.
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And I like to say everybody's anexpert until you get the job. Yeah,
so yeah, it's not easy.And the one thing that continues to
be a part of today's world.Is everybody likes to talk. It's coaches,
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players, teams, clubs, nations. Everybody has something to say,
but you know the result is inthe performance. So yeah, they have
a big game coming up against Uruguay. Uruguay's been playing well and it'll be
very interesting for sure, because youdon't need to do any more talking.
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It just needs to be about howthe team plays, how the individuals play,
how it comes together. And that'sthe beauty of this sport is you
can't predict it ahead of time.It's only after ninety plus minutes that you
get the final results. Okay,you are a person who has experience in
playing in way different leagues with differentrefs, because I want you to talk
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about this in watching the Euros,like the new rule this year about only
the captain can address the official.I think it's a really good idea personally,
because proof of that is to watchCope America where almost every player of
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each team is in the ref's faceand he's like he's just gonna walk away,
right. I mean I was thinkingthey ought to grab the ball and
people are a yapping at him eithertake ought to take five paces toward the
goal of the guy's yapping at himor away from the goal if the other
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just to do something or to goto What the Euros have done is that
one guy can address the Yeah,it's a bad reflection of the game and
it's only gotten worse. Yeah,the antics on the sidelines with the coaches,
Yeah, players trying to influence decisionsor put pressure constantly, constantly,
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constantly is is it's it's not funto watch that. You want to see
the game and everybody's human mistakes aremade. Yeah, there's a lot more
money on the line. And again, in today's world with Twitter and social
media, everybody has something to say, so everybody feels empowered, and that's
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only gotten worse. So you know, maybe through some good regulations or rules
or decisions by leagues and sports thatcould help influence a new positive way to
look at things, or how tonot just make it a ridiculous show show
and make it about bring it backto the game. Daniel, what do
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you think of that? Tom,I'm still trying to figure out the intro
where we said this was a soccershow. I'm still trying to wrap my
head around that and I'm a littlelost in this tool keep trying, you
know, final show deal. Yeah, why has this been broadcasted this whole
time show? Yeah? Oh yeah, we've been on the air every week.
(12:03):
Really, Yeah you didn't know that. Nobody told you? All right,
Well, so my brain's still tryingto wrap around that. But other
than that, I'm just really enjoyingyou giving me the point, giving me
the look from across the table,trying to drink that in a little bit.
Yeah, one step at a time, sweet Jesus. And with that
being said, I ignored everything youjust said, So okay, we'll shut
up. Then, Auntie, whatdo you think about that? About what?
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Okay, Sonty's so busy working aboutthe next intro, just drinking it
in. I haven't. I haven'thad a thought since Ruth Harker walked in
the door. Oh damn, ohmy agreement about the euro Cup, you
know, dressing the referee with justone the captain doing that, I just
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think it's a lot and it's notgoing to really solve anything on the field
on the pitch, just sort oftrying to intimidate and Hi a hight welcome,
thank you. We're playing, We'replaying musical. MIC's here because street
this is an absolute It's more thana pleasure to be here, it's an
obligation. But thank you very muchfor having me. Tom mister soccer his
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own self, Bill McDermott just walkedin next to number sixteen for the United
States Nationals. Hey, Hey,spend a couple of minutes talking about that
guy. About Mike. Yeah,yeah, Mike Storberg. I'm going to
talk about strictly, and so Icould talk about his whole career because I've
covered a goodly number of his gameswhen he was youth and then it's like
it's just a child. But forme, if you play for the national
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team, but more importantly, ifyou play in a World Cup, that
is the ultimate. It's the ultimatefor any soccer player. And if you
watch any of the United States gamesin ninety four, hopefully all of them,
the most consistent player in the fieldwas number sixteen. Mikes. Now,
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I would say this whether he wassitting next to me or not.
Never gave the ball away, madethe right choice, made a preposterous goal
line. Say it against Columbia somethingyou remember, bounced off his body,
bounced off the gold how'd you savethat, Mike. It was. It
was a crazy play. Yes,it hit it hit off my leg,
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hit off the post, came backto one of the Columbian players who took
a shot, and I slid andgot a piece of that, and then
luckily my teammates were there as wellto help clear it out. Clavijo,
So, was this Sprea close byor Carlos? Hey? Bill? Bill?
Is that typical of Mike's server?You say, well, Hey,
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Mike, I'm setting you up forone of the greatest plays I've ever seen.
Not like I've watched much soccer,but I'd just like to set you
up to describe your involvement in inin one of the greatest plays I've ever
seen. And he says like threewords, and he goes, well,
of course my teammate, Yeah,to think about it. But what Bobby
Tarlton said, And I think MichaWill attested this because his father not only
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offered us and gave us a fontof knowledge about local soccer Saint Louis soccer
in particular, but the world's gamein Flow Valley's gym. So Bobby Tarlton
said, an average player becomes good, good player becomes great by imitation of
role models in a neighborhood setting,and he grew up in that is precisely
how we all grew up in theSaint Louis area. Me in particular that
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you're a secrets if you were Irishand Roman Catholic and grew up in Nur
Saint Louis where I did in WalwaoPark, you played soccer, simple as
that. But with reference to that, we always thought we were in good
company because Jesus Christ himself was Irish, he was thirty three, only son,
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lived at home, didn't have ajob, hung around with the same
twelve guys, and his mom thoughthe was God and his mom bod he
was God. Three four five six, Bill, I've only heard that joke
a thousand times and it still makesme laugh. Well, you were talking
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about Europa. This confrontation of playersaround referees has got to stop, has
got to stop, and MLS isnotorious for it, and it's been happening
since nineteen ninety six. If youhave the captain's armband, you and you
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alone can approach your referee and talkto the referee. And because of Europa
and because of World Cups, wefound this in particular with World Cups,
there's twenty six thirty cameras at everygame. This embellishment has gotten to stop.
Yeah, they got to get Theyactually have to give cards, you
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red cards. Here's a way thatyou remedy it. If you don't do
it that during that game, ona var replay, you look at the
recording of the game afterwards, andif you find out that it a tackled
my hand, brushed your neck andyou go on the ground and hold your
face, you start the next gamewith the yellow card. Yeah, okay,
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I totally agree with that. It'sruining the spirit of the game.
Also, what's ruining the spirit ofthe game is when you strike a ball.
Let's for instance, let's say theright back flights a long ball to
the left winger, hangs in theair while the left winger hits it first
time, and the defender is standingin a penalty are and it hits him
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in the arm. Penalty kick.That's also ruining the spirit of the game.
The rule of soccer. Excuse me, the game of soccer needs one
more rule common sense. I sawthat, you know, I was going
to read that a little later.I saw that in your response to this
common sense. Yeah, no,that's that's absolutely okay. Hold on a
second, hey, folks, it'sSantiago with a quicker station. I d
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you are listening to Sucker Sunday KYFand it's five ninety five. We hear
a little Van Morrison of Caravan.I mean sorry, we're just fumbling here
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with the lack of mice. Whoscoming up? Worry about it? Worry
about what I asked you? Whatsong down the road? Oh? This
is traveling, this is getting readyto pull up. Wilbury's here. Okay,
well I don't have headphones. HavingWilbury is a big part, a
big part of Billions Damian Lewis seriesWhoa Yeah, Well, the sad thing
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about that song was when it wasfinally released, Roy Orbison had unfortunately passed.
So if you ever see the videowhen it gets to his solo,
there's just a beautiful frame photo ofit. Gil how about Roy Orbison's a
black and white night? Is thereanything like it? Not at all?
In the dreams? Baby, Hey, bill this isn't a damn music show.
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Excuse me, it's the stel SoccerSunday Show. Giliban's continues, don't
give me the mic, so nono unparalleled voice. And anyway you're listening
to KFN, that's five Night ofthe Fan and STO United Soccer. I'm
saying, I am, I amin a rut, I'm a habit.
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Anyway, we are back, gladto have everybody. We have a studio
full of great guests today and we'regoing to get right back to him.
Here's your host, mister Thomas Wartz. Super secret text line otto Graham coming
in lot and clear in the heightswhatever that means. Can I have a
address of question to Sussy, Yesyou can. Are we gonna ever see
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on Columbia a partnership like Carlos Valdoramaand Lanol Alvarez. Oh, that's gonna
have to That's gonna be hard touh to top. I think his styles
are different now the number ten,well, you have Hamis, but I
don't think there is somebody like isthat you could have the same learnership or
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the hair protection. Mike, haveyou ever seen a ten shirt do more
by just standing in a center circle? Well, I mean the one guy
who does a lot in the numberten jersey is messy. Everybody would say
he walks around a lot, butuh, Yeah, Valderama was different.
His his brain worked in a ina really creative way. He had great
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touch, he had great vision,and he could put out an amazing pass
MESSI can put out the past.Annie can finish. Hey Bill, Hey
Bill, Can I interrupt a second? Yeah? I want to ask Mike
as a fobbed question about the Columbianplayers. I want to ask Mike about
his July fourth, nineteen ninety fourgame. Again. Okay, hold that
because Daniel has Daniel can't stay thewhole time, Daniel, Bill, Daniel's
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gotta doing. He's got a doubleheader, He's got two games today. Oh,
he's a real one eighty man.I only came to recruit. I've
got three players ready to go righthere. Oh, bring Mike sober On.
That'll keep him quiet. Oh.At midfield, I do the work
of two people laarln Hardy, butless than fall three, four or five.
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I'll be GM of the year ifI pull up for a couple of
these guys. Oh, I think, Bill, you've been saving this stuff
up. This is somebody said tome, Well, you know I can't.
I can't turn on the radio withouthere and Bill mcdermoy. Well,
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unfortunately, yeah, but I saidto them, but you won't hear him
like you hear him on my showbecause that that though literally the week before
you were singing and I can't rememberwho you were singing along to. I
can't recall, but yes, right, go ahead with your go ahead with
your phone. I wanted to askMike about I asked Santy about whether it
be a partnership far Columbia in thefuture, like Lano Alvarez involved Rama together.
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How about for Brazil, Mike,because it's it's blatantly obvious right now
that they don't have a ro MarioBebeto combination or do they your eyes,
No, they don't and they don'thave doom Gun Mario Silva. Everything starts
in the middle of the field andit's such a The whole team plays off
of that. And when you watchBrazil, yeah, they seem to be
struggling in a few different areas,but doom Gun Mario Silva, Yeah,
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they were such a key ingredient toBebeto and ro Mario that they allowed those
two to have the creativity and worktogether. What a combination. Ro Mario
was was so quick and a greatfinisher in Debeto was so clever in his
runs and finishing as well, sothey were a lethal combination. You as
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a midfielder, have you ever seenanyone more efficient with their passing from either
the center circle or preferably for him, lying a little bit deeper almost the
center back at times than number eightfor Germany Tony Cruz. He's spectacular.
Yeah, totally controls the flow ofthe way they play. Bill, haven't
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you been paying attention? It's notTony Cruz, it's starting Colt. What
the hell? Oh? What didRichie Bear say? I'm sorry. The
lawyer who abides said this, knockit off. Derek ray Tye said last
week, two weeks ago, hesaid, you know that's that's not his
real voice. If you talk tohim, he's like got you know,
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he grew up in San Diego.I've done quite a few games with Derek
as has tie and I'm sure tyhas told you when you're sitting next to
him ready to go on the air, it's pretty much just talking like this.
Then all of a sudden, weplayed for Glasgow Celtic and you can't
understand them. We're Jimmy Johnstone.Okay, here's my biggest complaint about the
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Fox. Praise Jah for Fox.This has been unbelievable, the coverage of
the Euros and the COPA. Butuse announcers that speak English because we're in
America. No offense, Antie.Most people their first language is English and
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they're kind of used to Americans.You cannot tell me there aren't people in
America with Midwestern accents that can describesoccer. Oh, I could think maybe
Bill McDermott for one, But tohave Derek ray On and whoever they got.
Here's how I watch most games.I got the game on. I
may have a different game on theother TV, and I'm probably working,
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might be cleaning my garage. Imight be well, I won't have to
worry about working on the log fora while, something like that, and
the game's on. You never worriedabout working on the night. I worried
a lot because I wasn't doing it. And it's Friday, then it's SAT
regardless. But so what was Ieven saying? You can't interrupt me,
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because then I can't remember I wastalking about? Oh, now I remember,
so Derek ray and Peter Green,who I thought was with Fleetwood Mac
is now apparently an announcer and they'recalling the game. So I'm watching the
game like I like JP Doug Kramertwo a lot because he's a nice guy
(25:53):
and he lets me know when something'shappening by the intonation of his voice and
his commentary. These guys are talkingand Derek Ray, what did you call
it? Over pronunciation? I believeit's I don't even know what I don't
Was it a goal? You know? Is in V A R have?
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This is America. Let us understandthe commentary of a big game. And
we furthermore understand the fact that youknow a different language and you are disseminating
this information to the public. Okay, we get that. Don't try so
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hard, so hard to go overboardwith it, Daniel, Are you gonna
say anything? No? Why?Actually, for for a few reasons.
One, I've said I've spoken whattwice, and I've our and I and
I've spoken too much. It's true, this is the only thing I'll say.
And I've already talked to Tom aboutthis. And I'm only saying this
because because I probably have to run. But I made a point to come
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this morning despite the fact that I'mprobably one of the newest members of this
little this little team. But atleast in my experience and for the rest
of my life, this show hasbeen the oddest experience but perhaps one of
the most important experiences since I movedto Saint Louis and beyond, and with
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all the memories that come with thetime I've had with this show, which
is continuing but just in a differentway. Maybe I won't have to fight
to wake up in the morning forit. The essence of the show is
exactly what's happening right now. AndI'm very aware that this twelve year run,
twelve plus year run, I've beenlucky to be a part of two
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years of it or a year ofit, but this is it, Like,
you guys are the show. SoI'm just you know, I'm super
thankful to you, Tom and toyou guys, but there are a lot
of reasons for me to not talkat all, and today it's just to
sit back and enjoy how you uniqueand special this this show that you guys
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are put together in Thanks man,Well you remember this song if you're of
a certain age. Every day,every Saturday morning, Roy and Dale,
we're on Trigger and Buttermilk, ridingdown the trail facing the camera and they
would be singing that. So it'sa nice send off. I sent this
out to Mike work colleagues on mylast hit from the job years ago.
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So which is always kind of debatable. I have a hitch one. Is
it happy trails? Yea happy trails, do you? Which is what they're
gonna be. Ladies and gentlemen.We're gonna step away right now and pay
bill, So don't go anywhere.You're listening to SEO United Soccer Sunday coming
to you live from kfn S fiveninety the fan in Saint Louis for one
more week. This is it.It's you know, the first Damacunia Monacuna.
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Yes, tamos de Regreso Santiago isstan Escucando Saint Louis United Soccer Sunday
live from Harrico Studio at the Pasadi Pasta at Pasta House on KFNS five
ninety Fan Presidentalo bord n g klaufern dot com local roots nationwide results.
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That's a hard follow. Yeah,here's your host once again, the recent
birthday boy, mister Tom Schwartz.Thomas take it. We have two perfect
day people in the same studio.Oh Ruth Harker and myself were both born
on the perfect day, and I'vehad that explain to me like a million
times, and I still don't understand. It's something to do with numbers.
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Terry has explained that to us,I don't know how many times, and
it's one of those things that whensomeone's explaining it to you, you go,
oh, yeah, all right,yeah, it makes sense, But
what the hell are you about.Five minutes later, somebody says, what
did she say? You will?It's did you explain it to me?
Well, it's something about both numberssix and in two and eight or primary
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numbers or something. Yeah, butit's literally, listen, you have to
be a mathematistic wells. I've neverheard that before. I just thought it
was because we were perfect. Ohyou never heard that before. We have
to look it up, if youIf you yes, Bill, I'm just
listening Archimedes. But I do wantto ask the studio, since it's going
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to be or seemingly is turning intoa young man's game, irrespective of the
occasional thirty seven and thirty eight yearold younger players like le min Yamal playing
in euro at six teen, Mike, how is that possible. It's phenomenal,
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isn't it. Yeah, it's phenomenal. I mean yeah, some things
are hard to understand or to describe. But age doesn't matter when you're young.
If you have it, you haveit, yeah, and you can't
teach it. Deserve to be onthe field, h Santia, What about
Arta Guler the Turkish MESSI he's eighteen, he's in Turkey's first eleven. Excuse
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me, excuse me, he's inTurkey A's first eleven. To wait a
second, wait a second, Turkeyeight I don't don't ask me, Tom
Well, you're pronouncing it the song. It's turk Kyrie always in Kyrie's.
Oh it's finally they have given themthe recognition that he deserves. So it's
turky I'm sorry to correct you,Bill pronouncing a Turkey a during the They
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can do that in this studio.Excuse me, Turkyri, isn't that right?
Santi? I don't know. You'retell me, well, I am
telling you. It's your segment.What are you going to talk about?
Okay, okay, we'll go inSpanish. Come on, man, still
got night. I'm on, let'shave one goal, three of them.
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But blasting enough, But are wegonna do CDSC Let me ask the Bill
first. Okay, No, we'regoing to talk about this is your segment.
You can talk about whatever you want. Should there, Let's ask Santi
and let's ask Mike in particular orwhatever Bill was because he sped in Major
League Soccer and I'll get out,No, you're not. Should there's still
be don't let him go six venuesin Major League Soccer with artificial surface?
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No, no, how can thispossibly happen in two thousand, in twenty
four money? Because they won't changethe venues. Mike, correct, No,
they can change the venue. It'sjust about power and grandfathered in and
not willing to make the change atthis point, which begs the follow up
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question. In twenty twenty six,every venue in the United States is a
football venue. Consequently, the samething that's happening for Copa America is going
to have to happen for the WorldCup. Is it going to work?
I don't know, but I hateit. I hate that all these stadiums
for the twenty twenty six World Cupare footballert stadiums. Yeah, I get
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it, Like you want to havea stadiums with sixty seventy thousand people.
But to me, it takes alittle bit of the motion from having a
full soccer stadium. And I knowthe US doesn't have the infrastructure to have
ten eleven soccer specific a stadiums atfifty six, but I don't know.
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To me, just having these venues, I don't like it. Kansas City
is going to have some games thatarrowhead and I think it just to me,
it takes a little bit of theemotion and the tradition of playing that
apps. And the fields aren't thesame size, right I mean, some
of them are not the same size. Some of them right now are way
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too narrow. Yeah, five yardsI've heard, and believe it or not,
you know ninety four when every naysayerin the world, in particular journalist
overseas, is how can they possiblyhave World Cup in the United States.
They don't have an existing league,They have no pedigree in the World Cup
other than nineteen thirty when they endedup in third place, perhaps nineteen fifty
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with the England game. As itturns out, the most successful World Cup
in the history of the event,sixty eight nine and ninety one was the
average. Well, they were turningout Mike Sarberg states, oh, precisely
in the United States planted attractive brandof soccer and in the astounding news to
beat Columbia along the way, whichI'm sorry, Santa can bring that up
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against you that I'm sorry, goodlord, he were you even born yet?
I mean, Bill, that's justI'm not I'm older than what do
you think. Yeah, that's oneof my first sad soccer memories because Colombia
came to that word Cup as afavorite and he was supposed to do really
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well, and just things fell apart. During the group of stage play no
less than play had said that Columbiais the country to beat the country to
win the World Cup. In ninetyfour, I had two Colombian games at
Stanford Stanford Stadium in Polato. Soconsequently I had some VHS recordings, yes
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VHS and you they did not givethe ball away led by Carlos Valderrama.
And again the only reason I bringup Lane Alivarez it is if you touched
Carlos Valderrama the next close play,you were getting a bone crusher two feet
over the top from Landa Alvarez andthat was a given. But then on
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a flame let Freddie Ringcone Fastino AspriyaA treat to wash. Let the editor
note that Santi is smiling when youwere talking about those two footed challenges.
I just want you to be awareof that. That's that's his that's in
his heart right now, So youmight not want to ask him that third
time. But Santi. I spokewith Francisco Maturana two days after that game
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because we had a Columbia game stillupcoming. He literally could hardly make a
sentence. He was so shaken upstill from that game. Maybe that's what
happened to Biden the other night.That guy guarded and he just couldn't speak
any He was getting ready. Hethought there might have been a two footer
coming from Alvarez or either. Younever know, woll Bill, That's that's
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surprising from Francisco Maturana. But thisis one of the reasons what I love
being on this show listening from youguys, memories you talk about Colombia and
reminded remind me of bad memories andmy player Columbia. But this is one
of the things I love. AndI was reflecting. I was telling Tom,
reflecting on my time on the show. I haven't been here for too
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long. The first time I camewas in twenty nineteen, and you weren't
You weren't here, you were outof town. That wee can But I
met ted and came. How didyou get in if I wasn't here.
Oh they waited because of my Theyknow how much I hate people from Colombia.
Maybe maybe maybe that's what I gotthe invite. Yeah, And then
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because I'm so mad about that technormally the next time they told me,
don't tell Tom you're from Colombia.I played along, so now he wears
his shirt it's Colombia. But no, I have enjoyed the time here,
meeting some soccer legends like you guys, meeting Rude, meeting Taikyo, just
hearing about all the stories and allthis soccer knowledge do you guys have?
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Is been great. And Tom,I we know. This is not a
goodbye, This is just see youlater. This is an audios. Yeah,
watch this space. Another follow upwith relation to the history of Columbia
and soccer. The World Cup wassupposed to be there in eighty six.
Is there ever ever any talk ofit possibly going back to Columbia someday?
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No? No, I don't.I don't think that's gonna happen. It
just requires a huge investment. Andthat's why Colombia rejected it. At the
time. I was too young atthe time to understand, but just reading
about it, I think it wasthe right choice. The country didn't have
the money to the infrastructure to thinkabout, like how this is working for
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Germany. The structures set in everyplace they show is nuts, right right
seventy to eighty thousand at a watchparty in Berlin watching Germany play together.
To me, the Euros is thebest sorry santi the best competition because all
those countries at some time their ancestorskilled ancestors from the other countries they're playing,
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or one country was you know,dominating the other. And there is
a fundamentalness of the hatred that exists, and a goodly number of the people
that you're referring to display that nationalismthrough their national teams. Exactly, they
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don't kill each other anymore. Theteams go out and kill each other,
right, and nobody dies, right. But I mean that that to me
is the most impressive thing about theuh Euros. Well, little rim taking
us to a station id here,this is one of their better known songs.
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I think I thought it was appropriateand send them over to you then.
For I don't know how I feelabout Arim because I saw him one
time out at Riverport, and Iwas the guys who were playing seemed bored,
you know, And I'm sure thatall musicians go through that, even
swamp Dog. Right, you getup there and a guy, We've played
this a million times, but youdon't act like it right, acting like
(40:36):
it, and I just wanted toleave, and I kind of liked them
till then, well, it's theend of the world as we I think.
Yes, I'm pretty certain this isthe music they play for Guantanamo Bay
prisoners to make them talk talk.Welcome back. Oh that was good Bill,
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Bill McDermott, Welcome back. You'relistening to STL United Soccer Sunday coming
to you live from kf It's timefor Bill's segment, and it's time.
Oh it is, Yeah, itsays right here on the log I see
that. Well, let's play hisfavorite song into the world as we know
it. I have two soccer memoriesbecause I have to leave shortly too,
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because Queen Elizabeth, our oldest daughter. Yeah, she her husband and our
three grandchildren are back from Spain.Oh, they're back. They're back.
They got back yesterday after a sixmonth stint. Mike, Okay, they're
going to Tuscany, Rome, Ireland. Oh, by the way, they're
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also going to school while they're overthere. They send me a picture from
the Berna Bayo when they're over therefor a game study. I'm either at
City Park, Hermann Stadium are thesoccer park. They're at the Bernabeyu watching
Real Madrid. And Elizabeth goes,who didn't you tell me that number seven?
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It's Venisius Junior. He's good.Yeah. Two soccer memories, one
of which involve Colombia in nineteen.This is a good one, though,
Santi this is a good one.Santa fe Agus Los main Agos. Oh,
oh, I want to hear aboutthat. And Shekhlaric shek A Laric
was playing for Les Millionarios. HowYugoslav Indiana ended up playing with Les Millionarios.
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Who knows. Shech Alaric was oneof the greatest dribblers of all time,
played for Yugoslavia, played for theSaint Louis Stars when Rudy Gutendarf was
coaching, So the front three wasRudy cooble Boracoustic and Dragoslav Sheklaric. How
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does that happen? Nonetheless, itdoes, and that was an ESL at
the time. Chuck a Laric meetsus in the lobby of the hotel because
he was friends with Miguel de Lima. Now he hasn't seen Miguel de Lima
in decades, so he introduces theteam to Shuck Alaric and Shuck a Lark's
first sentence to Miguel is tell themhow good I was? Not Hi,
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how are you? It's wonderful tosee you after forty years? Tell them
how good I was? Bill,You've been doing that to me for that's
thirty years. Another great story.My first World Cup assignment on television was
the ninety four World Cup for ESPN. So my venue is Palo Alto.
My two venues are Palo Alto andthe Rose Bowl. Brazil was at Palo
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Alto. We did three Brazil games. They trained at Santa Clara. They
had a young seventeen year old bythe name of Ronaldo who they brought for
the explicit purpose of putting on thefield. If for Mario ever came out
(44:12):
for any reason, if he unfortuallygot injured. Ronaldo was going in.
He never stepped foot on American soilat the ninety four or Old Cup,
but at Santa Clara in training,I've never in my life have seen anything
like this. A ball would beplayed out of the back, like Mike
said, from a midfielder, eitherMarl Silva tunga on the ground at his
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feet, receive turn and ran atthe goal. And if he could do
fifty stepovers in the process, thatwould exactly what he would do. And
he would do these stepovers at topspeed. In another training session, Zagallo
is there that Cascados Abotobada is gonescouting into the country. Dounga puts a
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tackle on ro Mario Mario's Agallo blowsthe whistle blows. Now Miguel's standing next
to me, so I don't understand, I understand what Sagallo's staying in Portuguese.
In essence, he's saying, Idon't care who the you are if
you touch him, if anybody toucheshim, you'll never wear a yellow shirt
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again. Pretty severe. They didn'twant anyone to even think about touching the
Mario because he was their ticket.Can't no, no, everything, I'm
sure Michael tell you this. Everythingbetween Mario but Beto, Dounga, Mario
Silva, anything coming out of theback was all triangles and they looked for
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each other immediately on the ground attheir feet. The people running into the
openings was preposterous. But Ro Marioran the show. You know, Santi,
you said before how this is thepart that you really enjoy and this
is what I had in mind,I think when we foolishly decided to start
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the show, and Ed mentioned itearlier. For me, this show comes
out of two sources like Thanksgiving dinnersat my house and the adults sitting around
the table and just dying to getinto that conversation whatever the hell they were
(46:35):
talking about. And the second oneis Monday nights after basketball at Obie Clark's,
particularly when you start telling your jokesbecause all of what you're stolen,
well, sure, when Bill,when Bill starts a story, a joke
slash story at Obie Clark's on aMonday night, Let's say there can be
(47:00):
anywhere from five to fifty people there, and let's say there is the let's
say they're twenty people there. Billstarts, which seems like a story if
you've never heard it before, right, because he's done it so many times.
Well, that's like the time,you know, and you can see
(47:24):
the new guys are going, Ohman, this is mister soccer. I
don't know anything about soccer, butI'm gonna listen to him, and you
can see him. They're kind oflike key and in and Bill's inflection is
perfect because he's looking and he knowshe's got some guys hooked. Right.
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The majority of us have heard thejoke fifty times minimum, and we're watching
these guys too, for when arethey going to get you know, because
we know when he's going to dropthe punchline because we've heard it so many
times. When are these guys goingto get it? He drops a punchline
three two one, Oh. Thatthat that's uh, that's where this show
(48:13):
has come from. And that's wherethis show is exactly today. I couldn't
ask for anything better than this.This is well, I have to leave
shortly, So this is the mainpurpose for me coming in first. And
fore mostly I own apology to Ruthbecause she's on a microphone. I pulled
over towards me and Ruth hasn't saidanything since two. That's my fault.
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That is my fault, and Ithoroughly admitted I apologize for it. I
didn't know Mike was going to behere. I knew, I knew Santi
and Jed and everybody else was goingto be here. He didn't mind stepping
on us. But I want tothank you very very much for what Daniel
said. It was. It wasan odd program. That's okay, that's
(48:59):
fine. We want Odd on AMradio. We want iMOS again. We
want iMOS in Saint Louis. Wewant Jack Carney. We do not want
the weather, a repetition of scores, a traffic jam on Highway, farty
at Big Bend. We don't care. Excuse me, some people care about
that. But what we want whenyou say it's a soccer show is we
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want to hear about soccer. Anda lot of venues, a lot of
different stations don't really give true tributeto the sport of soccer around the world,
World Cups, Europa, but inparticular here in Saint Louis. And
(49:42):
it is mandatory that the people inSaint Louis who are going to city games
are standing on the shoulders of PeteSorber, George Mahalovich, Harry Keeo,
Bill Louby, Bob Rooney, Pete, and John Booty Calcaterra. This did
not just fall to the sky twoyears ago. There was a reason why
(50:07):
Saint Louis has always been this way. The two pillars of sport for continuity
and experience and respectability in the cityof Saint Louis are baseball and soccer.
This community is largely largely founded bythe world's game, which became America's game
(50:30):
because of Saint Louis and the exposureyou give it is invaluable no matter how
it's delivered. We're talking about soccer, and that's because of you, Time,
So thank you for anybody who's evenlooked at a soccer ball, much
less kicked one. Thank you veryvery much for giving so much exposure to
(50:52):
indeed the world's game, which isSaint Louis. Well said Bill, and
I'll just say thanks to Time.I have to run and I look forward
to the next chapter. It's gonnabe a beauty. Thanks guys, Thanks
Tad, Ruth and Ruth apologize yetagain, Santy, any more Columbia stories.
(51:15):
So you mentioned media narios against SantaFe. Did you go to that
game, Yes, sir, Andone of the one of the things that
happened, the left winger, excuseme, the left back send a ball
over the top of everyone to theright winger coming in. The goalkeeper comes
out to try to punch this clear. Well, he realizes it's well well
(51:38):
beyond his grasp. He's at thetip of the penalty area arc, and
he heads the ball out to Santythe center circle. Now we're out of
our mind. Mark Demmling is jumpingup and down. Oh much. Did
you ever in your life? Miguelleans over. He says, Bill,
(51:59):
They do it all the time.Yeah, yeah, in Colombia that was
pretty common, especially with just havingthat uh that sweeper keeper that will be
outside of the box, and inthis case he wasn't that way. But
yeah, they will come and,uh just clear the ball anyway they could,
(52:21):
Mike, what would Bora do ifone of the American goalkeepers try to
scorpion kick to save the ball offhis own goal line? As well as
all right, Tom, thank youvery very much, thanks to let me
drop in. Sorry Ruth for mepulling up. Bob Hope, stop apologizing.
(52:42):
I got to introduce you, Bob, you were great. Who was
it, Jimmy not Jimmy Kenney,Jimmy Duranty, Jimmy Granny. What do
you say? Can I miss goodnight? Missus Calabash, wherever you are?
Missus Calabash. To follow up onthat sentence, Missus Calibash was the
first woman who provided him someplace tostay at a dramatically reduced rate when he
(53:08):
couldn't afford anything. So, MissusCalabash, can you do his voice?
I cannot do, Jimy, becauseit was kind of like a good night,
miss Cabbage? Where you are?Yes? That was his sign off?
Is this Gail's man? Yes,that's Gail right there. Oh good
(53:30):
Gail. Turn it up. Ohturn it You're gonna send it top.
Okay, Well, let's finishing upthis first segment, first hour the show
today Dead taking us out with trucking. What a long strange trip it's been,
and brother that says it all.Stay where you are. We'll be
right back with more in just afew minutes. KFN S five ninety the
(53:51):
fan Sto United Soccer Show One moretime. She lost to follow you know,
she hid in the same living onreds fighting and seeing cooking, while
a friend can say, is anythe shap cook again? Up the blog
(54:15):
again? You got the nether Soit takes time, get the place to
go, and just keep chucking ofhome home, sitting and staring out of
(54:36):
the hotel window. Got it,Tim, they're gonna keep indoor in again.
I like to gets let's sleep beforeI travel. What if you got
a range? I guess you're gonnacome here, plust it down on Purpin
Street, set up the boney innot down. I guess the way everything
(55:00):
just won that you be dre justlike a hanging around, and you,
like a traveler, get tired oftraveling. You want to settle down.
I guess I can't refocus all thetime.
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