April 25, 2024 • 57 mins
Tom, Edmundo, Russell, and Ted are joined in studio by STL Soccer HOFer Jim Tietjens. Jim has a new book called "Save" that chronicles his life in soccer and his health battles off the pitch. Jim's story is truly inspirational. Santiago Beltran joins the show LIVE via the phonelines from Kansas, where he called three STL City SC goals during a 3-3 tie vs Kansas. Technical difficulties while trying to connect with @tomtimm from the @stltoday on his drive home from Kansas. The guys do end up connecting for a short visit. Teamwork makes the dream work...
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Going to the city, Got youon the Gotcha shot, jes Days,
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Jess and now from the Harry KiyosStudio, Ladies and gentlemen, boys and
girls, and anyone else within thesound of my voice. Welcome to year
thirteen of the longest running discussion ofJogo, Benito and Saint Louis radio history
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talk about later. I mean you'restill not as a sponsor, as a
person. Oh well, don't don'tdo that in the middle of this.
Oh sorry, I'm your announcer,Redmondo. Of course. In today's lineup
includes Santiago Beltron, Matt Baker andspecial in studio guests. Jim Tegens will
be joining us shortly. We're notTom Timmerman. Tom Timmerman, I have
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with a big question Mark pending thatlast conversation. But we think he's here,
Well he's on he's on the roadagain. Yes, but he's on
the magic bus. Perfect. Therehe is. You can see the club
unfortunately as driving. Where was I? But now I digress. You're getting
through the introduction. Okay, backto where we were. Now back to
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me in studio today, of courseis our usual crew got ted running the
board, the professor, the voiceof the Empire, mister Russell Blye,
Doctor Russell Blyde. Down there Imet Mundo. I said, we have
mister Tjens sitting here next to me, and now the driver of this magic
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bus, your host, my buddy, friend of all even dogs and children,
mister Tom Swartz. Thank you,ed Mundo. Hey, at the
press conference the other day, whowas talking? I can't remember who was
talking? One of the players,but anyway, who referred to Totland not
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as Tater tots, not as touttiTody. You know who Tody is?
Was fabulous player, Italian player.I forget which teams he played for,
Bouti tutti tutti Roma, Yeah,exactly, never left Roma anyway. That's
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how uh, why can't I rememberwho was at the at the press conference.
No, it wasn't Indie. Regardless, he referred to oh you know
who it was. It was theCzech guy. What's the Czech guy's name,
Thomas Ostrok. Yeah, and hereferred to him as Toti. And
I thought, man, I'll tellyou something. At the press conference,
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it Ostrok, who when he camewas struck me as a shy little kid.
He was very meek, very meek, not as a player, but
in the in the conversations. Secondlanguage, no no, no, no,
no fifth language. By the way, he was learning English his fifth
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language. And I just thought,meek is a good is a good word.
And I thought, well, atthe press conference the other day,
he was smile city baby. Hewas sitting there, he was taking all
the English question. I mean,he had no trouble. Somebody asked him
a question to kind of confuse him. You can't use a colloquialism. Colloquialism
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with players because they don't get it. What well exactly, Yeah, could
you say that again? But thiskid was his English. You know,
I'm around a lot of people whoEnglish as their second third language, and
some they're hard to understand. Somepeople who've lived here ten fifteen years.
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You know, sometimes they're a littlemore difficult to understand. I know sometimes
I confuse you a lot. Ididn't want to mention your name, but
oh my god. Ostrak was likeI was stunned, and he's learned that
you guys are all a bunch ofbig marshmallows. Anyway, Well, yeah,
why would that be hard? Imean, tell me something else.
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Anyway, We're gonna talk about citythrough the through the show today, a
hopefully our our friends will be calling. But in the studio with us is
a guy who just wrote a bookcalled Saves. And his name is Jim
Teesians and he's a Saint Louis guy, has as a wealth of history Saint
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Louis University as a player. Igotta ask you this question, Jim,
Welcome, Welcome, Jim, thankyou great to be here. Jeff Kushno,
you wrote this with Jeff? Ishe in a relation of Paul Kushno?
Do you know? I'm not sureJeff was a South County Saint Tim's
guy. Yes, sir, wehave a score updated its Gibton two,
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Nottingham Forest Nil. Oh, good, welcome Jim. Get used to Jim
Russell usually saves his most intrusive bellsfor when you're at a particular point in
your story where you're may, Ithought maybe I did something wrong. No,
no, you have done Dan,Dan Glenn was here. He was
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sharing his h story of the dayhe got the call for his heart transplant.
He was here, yes, yes, and he's never shared that with
me. And I'll send you thepodcast, okay. And he was at
a pivotal moment in that story,all right, And well, well we're
all breaking listen, we're listening tohim, and we're all going and about,
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like you know, kind of atthe point of breakdown. And then
here it is, someone's on thephone for you. And what was the
score that day? Russ something likefour three, So Russia dortmun versus muchin
godboch and and and Dan, it'sjust like he did. I mean,
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he didn't even stop, Okay,Russell, you know he'd be pointing out
so you know, the sooner youget used to it. Usually what he
does is wait for your most vulnerablemoment to do it. Well, you
know, in support of Dan,they can't do anything till he gets there.
So I can tell you a quickstory about when I got the last
call. That was back in uhOkay, August of twenty eighteen. It
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was a Saturday, I just haddialysis. I was home. I was
laying in bed, sleeping. Theywere trying to reach me for a couple
of hours. No one could geta hold of me. And when they
finally did get a hold of me, my answer was, you know,
I don't know. I'm working twodays a week. I'm getting full pay.
It's a pretty good gig going onright now. So this is the
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ball for your second. That's right. That was the second when I needed
the heart and kidney, and Iwas kind of half asleep, and I
just was kind of like, hey, you know, I'm only working two
days a week because as I wason dialysis the other three. I'm getting
one hundred percent pay. It's nota bad gig. And then within twenty
minutes, Oh this is a SouthCounty boy. Yeah, within twenty minutes,
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my friend Dominic Barcheski and his wifewas over at the house right the
bed, helping me pack a back. Okay, so let's let's let's start
this journey. You find out aboutthis what's the disease you have? So
I have idiopathic cardio myopathy. Idiopathiccardio myopathy. So it's a hereditary disease,
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hereditary, hereditary. It comes frommy dad. My dad passed away
when he was thirty two years old. I was twenty one months old.
Wow, So he was the firstto pass at thirty two. And then
I had a sister who came downwith idiopathic cardiomiopith. She was in the
Navy. She also passed away atthirty two years old, same as my
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dad. So it was kind oflike at certain points, somebody flipped a
switch, yeah, and your heartbegins to fail. So at that point,
I was kind of preparing that it'sgoing to come, so be ready.
So it happened to me, sohold on, let me stop you
at that point when your sister,and it happened pretty quickly that she passed
pretty quickly. Well, my sisterwas at the Navy, and so she
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was out in California and she wasbeing seen by the doctors in the Navy.
So it was probably a two anda half year our deal. Because
what happens is the heart muscle justdoesn't fail all at once. It slowly
gets bigger, slowly swells and slowlykind of gets out a rhythm and just
gets much sicker. So it's it'snot something that happens really quick, and
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it has nothing to do with fitness, because you're an absolutely you're a goalie,
you know, for God's sake,he's in the Saint Louis Soccer Hall
of Fame. Ted. Yes,no, I actually ran a marathon.
I ran a marathon when I wasI think I was twenty seven or twenty
eight, and ironically the marathon finishedon the steps of Barnes Hospital. Wow.
And that's where I had my transplants, so they shot out the Barnes
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hospital, you know I had WhenI was fifty four, I had a
really bad case of acid into refluxand my wife finally convinced me to go
to see the doctor. And thenext I was recovering from will bypass.
And I used to think that wasa big deal, and then old Dan
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Flynn had to, you know,do me one up. But the stuff
you're talking about is simply okay,let's let's go through your situation. You
had, you had an idea.Oh wait a minute, Dan Flynn says,
Hi, he's listening. Yeah,I haven't seen him in a while,
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and we generally try to get togethera few months to have yeah,
breakfast or brunch, So I needto be calling him on that. Yeah,
come on, Jen, Sorry,Dany get that book boys, get
that booked. Ninth minute, CrystalPalace one, west Ham United, Neil.
I didn't want to hear that.I didn't want to hear that,
although west Ham probably you know there. We'll get back to them later.
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So we're at the situation where howold are you when your sister passes?
I was. She was passed whenshe was thirty two, so I was
twenty nine, twenty nine, andI was pretty much accepting at that point.
Before you, before your sister foundout she had this situation, you
were obviously aware of it, thepotential that you would have it for your
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entire life. Yeah, well shedidn't really start getting it until she was
about thirty one, Okay, Soas soon as she got it, I
knew that. Okay, So you'rein your late twenties exactly, You're you're
at the height of your athletic skills. Not really, I'd come back home
and return. By the time Iwas twenty five, I went to work
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for Rowling, supporting goods. Oh, that's where you got the truck driver.
Yeah, that's where I got thetruck driver. So that's where I
got you know, started slowing down. I was actually walking up the hill
to the Stone Hill Winery in Herman, and I'd have to stop every ten
feet and hold onto the railing.And that's where I really realized something's not
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righting right, you know, something'snot right. And at that point,
my sister had already passed, soI was kind of preparing for it anyway.
So you know, it was justmy whole life was about preparation,
preparing to succeed in athletics, youknow, so it just didn't seem like
a huge deal. I knew itwas coming. I tried to prepare for
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it, so when it came,I had great confidence in the doctors.
And I'm not saying it wasn't abig deal, but you know, it's
just, you know, you prepareto succeed, and that's kind of this
is what you've been doing your wholelife. You're right, you know when
you say that, it's like,it's I'm pretty good at it. I've
got really good at recovering. Ido what I'm supposed to do. Most
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of the time, I do whatthe doctors tell me to do, but
I do have my own sort ofrecovery method and it works for me.
And it's always trying to stay fit. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
So you've had two heart transplants,a kidney transplant, and cancer. I
have. Yes, the medication fromthe heart transplants that shuts down your immune
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system, it makes you more susceptibleto cancers. And when I first had
my first heart transplant, they hadthat number about ten to fifteen percent more
susceptible to cancers, you know.Come to find out years later it's really
about thirty five to forty percent moresusceptible the cancers. So I had a
very bad stage four non honchos foma, and I thought for about you don't
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mess around with anything like you know, like a you know, like,
oh, I'm not going to havea quad It's not like a basal cell
carcino. Yeah, yeah, exactly, I'm gonna go straight to four stage.
I would not make light of abypass. Those are tough surgeries,
you know, I mean really,the heart transplant lasts like a couple hours,
two and a half hours. Maybethey go in, they take your
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heart out, they put the newheart in, and they stitch you back
up and like they go in,they take your heart out and slapping in.
You know, you're out the door. While they're doing they change,
you know, they while they're doingit, they change the oil spark plug
in your car. Well with thewith the kidney you got, you know,
you get too. I mean,first of the heart guys in there
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putting the harden, then the kidneyguy comes in. And in my case,
the second time around, I hada lot of a lot of swelling
from the old transplant, so alot of scar tissue, so they had
to keep me open for a daybefore they can go in there and clean
it out. But I will saythe first heart transplant, on the third
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day, they wheeled a stationary bikein in my room and the doctor said,
do you have a good, goodyoung heart. I want you to
get on his bike and use it. Wow. And I was like petrified,
thinking, are you crazy, Something'sgonna snap in there and blood it's
gonna start squirting all over the place. But he put me on the bike
and that's the confidence I needed toget going. I'm a huge stationary bike
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fan. By the way. Wegotta do a quick station ID. Yeah,
oh, this is a STL Unitedsoccer Sunday coming to you live from
KF that's five nine. Got theWho playing there in the background, talking
about my generation. I see we'replaying a lot of Who music today,
so we will hear some of themthroughout the show. Once again, here's
your host Tom Schwarz. So we'rewith Jim ten. He has a new
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book called Saves, The Amazing Storyof American goalkeeper Jim Tech's with Jeff Kushno,
and you're going to find out forme if he's in a relation of
Paul Kushno. Jeff is a Southsiderwho went to Vianni. He did have
an older brother that I think thatpassed away. Is that who you're talking
about? Probably at one point,remember one of the South County journals,
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North County Journals had all the sports. Jeff was the sports director of the
North County Journal. That was backin the day when you had twenty pages
of high school sports. I missI missed that. Wow, Now that
is those time time going by quickaside, those things also had the best
one ads. You find out kindsof strange things being advertised. Anyway,
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I digress back then, Jeff,back to lucky over here. Yeah,
no kidding. Uh. I alwaysthought I was the luckiest guy in the
world. Well, okay, whatwould you think of a big deal?
I mean, it just blows mymind. I was really lucky in my
situation because I thought I had acidreflux, and then the next day I
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had I was coming out of surgery. Any time to think of it,
right, it just boom boom happened. And I always think that, like
my wife's had breast cancer. Anynumber of my friends have had cancer,
and I always think that's that's theworst because it's so much waiting. Yeah,
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I agree one hundred percent. Thecancer was a big deal. It
was stage four. The doctor gaveme a fifty to fifty chance, and
what do you tell what'd you tellhim at that moment? I told her
that she doesn't know me, orshe didn't know how I operate. So
I quickly gave myself twenty five extraand said, it's seventy five to twenty
five, and I'll take those oddsany day of the week, oh man.
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And that was just kind of myapproach. But it was ten months
of hell. It was scary.You know, it's a personal battle.
Tell people what what that cancer islike, and well, you can't do
surgery for it. They just getit cut out. I don't. Yeah,
that's a good question. I youknow, you may know more about
that than me just hearing that question. But uh yeah, it's it's it
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gets in your blood. It's ablood it's a blood cancer. So there's
not surgery. No, you're justsorry. Here we are, he is
on he is on course, heis on palace. To shut up.
That's an important get sorry. Wellit's for me. Uh So, Okay,
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back to whatever you were saying.Continue, I mean I was talking
about. I mean, there's nodoubt that the cancer was the hardest thing,
the ten months of chemo treatment.I mean, basically, they're putting
poison in your body. They're tryingto find the right mix of poison that
kills the cancer and doesn't kill you. After I had ten treatments, I'd
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rather I had twelve treatments. Afterthe six to one, they told me
that the cancer was if they stoppedtreatments today, the cancer would be in
remission. So that was like ahuge mental success thing for me, where
I thought I'm halfway through it.I've reached the top of the mountain.
Now every treatment is one less.Do these people that have helped you,
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these people, the medical people havehelped you, do they have you come
to talk to people? They did? When I was younger, the transplant
people did a lot less. Nowthat I've gotten older, I began to
do a lot of speaking now onmy own, since I've written the book.
I'm actually speaking at a Rawling SportingGood sale meeting next week. And
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I worked at Rawlings for thirteen yearsand went up and saw them after I
was visiting in station up at Westport, saw some of my old buddies and
they called me a few days later, bought some of the books and asked
me to speak at their sales meetings. So you know, I enjoy it.
Well, I'm gonna just tell youright now, you're the last person
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that you're the last person. Rightas you're going out, what is your
a patient? And it's like they're, okay, we gave you a little
shot, and we're going to countdownfrom ten and they get you get to
about six. You ought to comein at that point and say you're gonna
make it. I think at onepoint, they were a little nervous of
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having me come in because I wasdoing so good. I was still very
athletic. You know a lot ofpeople that have heart problems, not all
of them, but some people.All the problems are related to the lifestyle
they lived. But when they hadyoung people, I would go in and
talk to the young people and kindof guide them through it. I would
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even take some of the people whenthey got out of the hospital to the
gym and show them how I'd workout. And you know, basically,
it's slowly building up your confidence inyour argan that you can do what you
want. I always had my ownprogram, you know, I always because
you knew who you are, youkind of learned your body. I had
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knew my body my whole life fromathletics, right and I was a bit
of an overachiever because I wasn't agreat athlete. So you come to know
your body and how hard you canpush yourself. So that was kind of
mymo through the whole time. Theother thing I did is when I had
I never would see myself as apatient. I would always see myself as
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a person, and when I hadthese small challenges are the big challenges like
lymphoma, I would put them inlittle bubbles. When I had lymphoma,
I was I believe, let's seethirty two. I was forty three years
old. So I said to myself, Okay, this is a this is
a ten month event. I've gota lot of years beyond ten months.
So if I can put this inthis little bubble and live through it for
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ten months and do what I endurethe pain and do what I have to
do to give myself a chance,I've still got a lot of years left.
And that made it a lot easieron my part. Now, I
will say one of the chemos damagedmy lungs severely. There were four different
chemo meds. One of them damagedmy lungs and they had found out that
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they were the lungs are very bad, and they said they may you know,
I said to the doctor, well, what's going to happen. What's
the prognosis? And she, youknow, quite honestly said straight up,
she said could be fatal. Andjust I wasn't happy with her personally telling
me that, and I and Itook that on as a personal challenge and
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we'll see about that. And itwas very interesting because every day I'd get
up, I'd take my little IVthing down to the lobby and I'd walk
one light post farther than the daybefore. And then finally they let me
go home. And when they letme go home, unbeknownst to me,
they believed that. They told melater that they thought i'd be back the
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next day or two the hospital,and I didn't. I went straight to
the gym, and I can feelmyself every day at the gym slowly getting
better. So finally I went backa week before Christmas and they tested me
and they were all couldn't believe it. You know, your lungs are one
hundred percent cure Crystal Palace three waystime. I told you to shut up,
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all right, So I'm going ona little long no no no,
no, no no no. Tedjust reminded me, because we want,
we know you, We have youfor a limited time, and pretty soon
we're going to start to fucking citystuff. So I want you, we
want you right now to tell anybodywho's listening, tell just tell us what's
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the most important thing that you havetaken out of this What do you need
to tell us? Because because quitefrankly, we're asking you. It's like
sports, it's a team. Everything'sa team. You got to surround yourself
with good friends, which I haveall my life. You know, you
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know, the soccer world Saint Louisis a brotherhood, right regardless of whether
you know someone personally, if youplay it against him, there's immediate respect.
It's a brotherhood. It's family,it's friends, it's doctors, it's
nurses, you know, it's it'sGod. I mean, he's got to
be the head of your team.It's the people at Mid America Transplant,
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It's the people that clean the roomsin the hospital. It's a whole team,
and you're part of that team.So you know, you've got to
engage with all these people. Imean, they've been there so often when
I needed help. I mean,through this chemo. Peer you can't do
this on your own. I meanthere's times when people are carrying you and
those are your friends, those areyour family members, those are your teammates.
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And I'm still in touch, youknow, weekly with my state championship
teammates from Oakville High School. Soyou know, you've got to surround yourself
with good people. You've got toengage them as they're part of the family.
You're part of the family, andmake sure at all times that you're
your own advocate and you're kind ofkeeping track of what the team's doing and
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making sure, you know, ongame day, everyone's ready to go.
On game day, in this situation, when I go down and I have
a heart transplant and I'm like,hey, okay, is everyone ready to
go? Everyone have a good night'ssleep. I'm ready to go. How
about you? If you're not onyour game, let's put this off,
you know, so just a positiveattitude and it's a team. I'm about
to give you the greatest compliment Ican give another uni being. You remind
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me of my mom. Well,it's it's interesting you say that because my
mom is the biggest influence on mylife. You know, I grew up
without a father, and my momknew that we were all going to have
hard life. And you know,I can't say in some spectacular way,
but my mom just raised us ina culture that whenever we got knocked down,
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she made us get back up immediately. And again, it's nothing flamboyant
or spectacular, but my mom iswhy I'm here today. You're the living
epitome of her favorite expression, tomMy glass isn't half full, it's overflowing.
And I mean, you're this.I like how it tied into the
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soccer towards the end of the segment. I mean because the the it.
Ever, I'm trying to find somethingyou've said so far that I can disagree
with, and I just can't disagreewith anything you've said so far. I
mean, you're you are just anincredible example for people. And I mean
that about the last person before thedrip kicks in, because the attitude,
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Oh you got a fifty to fiftychance, and you said, yeah,
okay, well everybody else got fiftyto fifty. The way I do it,
it's an extra twenty five. Youremind me of my good friend Ed
and my good friend Bob Bloine,Doctor Bob, the guy who used to
shoot He broke his toe and heused to shoot himself up before Monday night
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basketball to play. And he gota really bad diagnosis from the doctor about
he had stomach cancer. I believeis what the essence of it was.
But I told my wife about it, and my wife is a medical person
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and she just cuts everything to thequick. She'll tell you, well,
her action was Jim. Bob hadtold me that the doctors said he had
a five to ten percent chance tolive. And Sally and I were talking,
and he said, he said,that's a less than five percent chance
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that he's got. And what Bobhad told me is, they give me
this ten percent chance to live.But damn it, I've got my friends.
I've got you guys on this team, I Blob family, and I've
got my God, and I'm goingto beat this m ever and he did.
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That was twenty something years ago,and at the time, well at
the time, quite frankly, Iwas administering medical marijuana to him through myself,
blowing smoking a joint, blowing smokein his face. This this was
twenty over twenty years ago, andI was I hadn't been doing it a
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lot, and I was pretty ripped. But it was a transformational moment in
my life. And I that's theday that I found out what belief is.
Talk about belief, Well again,I go back in the team,
you know, to the team,and if you surround yourself with all these
people, you've got the support youneed to survive. And you know,
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I'm just a normal human being,a very simple guy. Right. I
haven't always. If I could usethe S word, excuse us b s
sir, But but you know,there's hard times. I'm not gonna kid
yet. There were times that Iwas tears. There were times where I
was like, oh, not again. And those are the times your friends
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step in. They carry you.You know. After my second heart transplant,
I got a pneumonia and seedff withinthirty six hours every day, and
I don't know what's going on.I know something's not right because I feel
it. But my urgents coming inevery day and he's telling me, Jim,
your heart and your kidneys are strong, they're doing great. Just hang
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in there, keep fighting. AndI'm thinking, you know, I'm thinking
to myself, I'm an adult man. He's not gonna lie to me.
If my heart and kidneys are doinggreat, I can keep this fight up
right exactly exactly, and that's whatkept me going. So you know,
in the times when you're down,you're having a hard day, and there's
plenty of those times, it's thepeople around you. I can't tell you
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how many soccer players that were competitorsthat I never met face to face other
on the field who have heard fromto pump me up. And it's just
it's a special thing. It's specialbeing in this fraternity. You know,
when I go to the Hall ofFame banquet and there's a thousand people there,
you're just in the presence of greatness. You know. You see guys
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like el Trost, you know,Pete Soerber, he's one I always mentioned.
Of course Pat McBride, and it'sjust like everyone's there, and you
know, everyone asks how you're doing, and everyone knows about you, and
oh, we're we're not shoting.Jim Leaker ted, Yeah, she was
at the Amateur Baseball has Night withhis green jacket O Jim. I become
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friendly with Jim, and it's just, I mean, I feel like the
luckiest guy in the world. Ishouldn't be here. I got two kids,
I've got a granddaughter. And thereal miracle. The situation is there's
six people in our family that werepositive to the bad heart gene. Six
people, Okay, and then mytwo kids come along, Jimmy and Annie.
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They're the first two in the familythat don't have their negative to the
bad heart She it's they don't haveit. They could never get it.
And you were baking the Tejan's family. I have a nine year old granddaughter,
Jia. She doesn't even have tobe tested because her dad doesn't have
it. How can I positive?The science thing is way overrated? Don't
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on Amazon dot com. All right, well it's somewhat I guess uh apropos
that the we're listening to the Who'ssinger can't explain. Because some things you
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just can't explain. You just haveto accept them. Believe you're listening to
soccer Sunday right here on KFN Sfive nine of the Fan ed Mundo.
We're going to go pay some billsright now. I'm whipping out my credit
card as I speak. We'll beright back. Don't touch the dial.
See you in a minute again.Shakira, Shakira, good. The first
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welcome back everybody to you stl UnitedSoccer Sunday coming to you, hear from
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music means one thing, and onething only online is none other than our
correspondent. Passy and ladies and gentlemen, it's time for I can't remember it.
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I can't remember what he told meto say. Anyway, Santiago bell
dry. Once again, the adhoc nature of the program reveals itself.
Santi, Santi, what did youtell me? I was supposed to call
you? Love us? Love usstill go Santi? How you doing?
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Are you back home or you stillcasey? Where are you? Baby?
No? I am. I amhere in Chesterfield and got home at in
the morning or something like that.It's still with the adrenaline of a great
game. It was a great gameto call. I'm glad I was there.
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There were any city stands on thatjourney on ice that when you were
there? Well, I I flewuh for this one? Whoa we stop?
Wait wait a minute, wait aminute, wait a minute. No,
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that's not Russell telling me that myfavorite team is down Noil four.
That is Santi, you flew withthe team to Casey. Is that is
that what you said? Yeah?I love it. I love it,
so Santi? What do you thinkabout that game last night? It was
a it was a very entertaining game. It's too bad at a couple of
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plays when Sporting cases way, andI'm sure the team will look at those
and and see how they can correctcorrect things like that. But City did
a great job dominated for a longforce of the game, and I think
the tie at the end he wasdeserved. He would have been really bad
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to come home empty without points,but I'm glad that the team was able
to fight. And in that lastplay, Thomas Dotland gets a ball and
and like if he was a striker, he puts it away for his first
goal in MLS. Did you hear? What? Did you hear? What?
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Ostrich how he referred to Tottler andhis nickname The other day at the
press conference, he referred to himas Totti, as in what Francisco.
I love that. I love thatAnd I'm not sure and I don't know
if it's Totty or Toddy with aD. I think it's more with the
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d because I think I have HarryCarnell call him that too. I guess
we're gonna have to ask him.Yeah, that's that's the next thing.
I almost asked the other day,but I didn't get a second chance.
So okay, Sam didn't make thetrip. What's up with that? He's
still training separately And obviously there isnot a lot of information just Carnel's remarks
(36:20):
that he's training separately until more thingsare said. But but yeah, I
just don't know what's going on.But to me, it sounds like maybe
he's not happy with something, andbased on Carnel's words, to me,
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it sounds like he's not committed tothe cause at this point between the lines.
That's what I can read. Butobviously we won't know anything. And
let's let's think about it in termsof what of what we know about just
world football generally constantly in every league, not on every team, but in
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every league in that I've ever readabout, there are players who were at
I didn't realize he was. Thiswas the last year of his contract,
so he he wants he wants somethingother than the team wants that that that
seems clear by Brad's comments, right, I mean he's not he's not in
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sync. The whole thing about Cityis that you know, next man up,
you know, we're all together,you know wherever. You know,
that doesn't seem to be applicable inthis particular case. And you know,
all over the world, players whenthey want, when they want another contracts.
Did he what turned down a contractwith the team in Norway for him?
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Right? Yeah? There was,Yeah, there was a room more
about an offer made dot CD rejectthere for a or a million dollars I
believe, But that was like fourweeks ago. And Sam started the season
really well, scoring, but thelast few weeks he didn't start and didn't
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have a lot of playing time eventhough he was doing well. And I
think that that's where things are happening. Maybe he wasn't happy with his playing
time or also unhappy with that transfer, which ceely not accepting that offer.
Could be a combination of both things. But as you said, the team
and him are not aligned at themoment. Yeah, yeah, I personally
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not anything I know about him orthe team or anything like that, just
putting him into a category of youknow, things I've observed before in watching
teams that I like in Europe,it's not uncommon when a player makes it
clear that he wants to move.You know what other ways does he have
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to express himself other than to youknow what Sam's doing. I'm not I'm
not I'm all for City, right, I mean, but I'm also aware
of the fact that players want toplay and players want to move to the
next level, and so to tobe actus to be accusing anyone of of
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that is sort of stupid because that'swhat everybody wants to do, right,
Yeah. Yeah, So well,we'll see what happens in the next few
days. Hopefully this can be resolvedsoon because because yeah, Sam is a
good piece for the team, whetherhe starts or not. He's an explosive
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player and has continuted with goals andas he is this season, and it's
a position where where the team doesn'thave a lot of death, right,
it's important this is we solved oneone way or the other. And it
doesn't mean anybody's bad person or badbad faith. It's just the way it
is. Hey, Santi, wegot a roll buddy, all right,
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thanks for having me, all right, thank you very much. Lovoca HeLa
Levosa Levosovo. No, what isit, Santi He's That's what I just
shut up, ed, God,somebody's gotta thank Santia about drums. Sally's
(40:35):
not Sally's not in the studio,So somebody's got to step up till that
wall. Hey, a couple coupleof go go updates. Here. It's
a crystal Palace four west Ham Unitedone in the second Russell didn't I ask
you too bad? Stopped Aston Villanil Born with one in the forty second.
Man, you are so filled withjournalistic integrity. I am, yes,
(40:55):
even though I could be wearing awest Ham shirt under this. You
don't know Everton to Nottingham Forest nilis final. You're a horrible person.
There was something, some big collisionout there too, that carried a goy
office. Yeah they did. Yeah, yeah, it was well Everton.
So the end of it, thismight keep Everton. This is a cru
There was a crucial bottom of theof the table battle that one. Yeah
(41:19):
yeah, three points at the Imean the Premier League top and bottoms lifted
Everton above well above Forest now witha game in handstill actually, ed,
I'm just confirming that our next guestis no you don't have to worry about
that. I can't seem to makeit out going call a second. Oh
okay, so just just tell peopleit's you know, it's the break.
(41:45):
Well, it's your Yeah, yourlistening. Sorry, you're ready, Yeah,
we go already. All right,it's kind of three three two.
You're listening to Sto United Soccer Sundaycoming to you live from KFN S five
ninety the fan here in beautiful SaintLouis, Missouri. While were attempting to
get our next guest, who wantsto chime in about the foul non foul
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the Claus was involved with last week. Okay, let let's let's hold that
for a second. No, it'sall good. No, it's time.
Now we're gonna talk. It washe's a bigger guy, the other guy
is smaller. The other guy bounced. Yeah, Russell's used to that stuff.
Hey, speaking speaking of you,this was in your own, in
your own way that it was avery good leading. I didn't think it
was a push either, but somesome did well. Taylor Twelman sure did.
(42:30):
Uh. It's time for the dreammail. Oh, Jim, we
need the dream mail, Jim,As seemed the dream used to actually be
on this show many years ago beforehe got a real life and uh,
he is a cerbic, I thinkwould be a word that would would fit
(42:52):
a seam and a person you don'twant to get generally in an argument with.
But he sends me these emails thathopefully everyone will understand this is not
my opinion necessarily open. Yeah,it's open court. Open quote here in
my opinion, you need you needto learn this kind of here, need
to hear this kind of stuff.So a seam writes, this is an
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email city. So one point,Bradley strikes again that nickname for our manager
has taken hold in section two ohone, away from the glitz in the
Glamour of the prawn sandwich seats.I love that, I mean I don't
love it about Bradley because I reallylike Bradley. Let's just all agree that
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Carnell is a very lucky guy.I mean, not Jim Tegan's lucky,
but but pretty lucky. He's isolatedas best striker speaking of sand Yes,
he's better than Klaus at most things. And goes into casey short and and
the team goes into casey short onplayers and short on ideas. Yet the
team escapes with the best sort ofdraw, the lake late equalizer, the
(43:58):
stoppage time equal especially away, especiallyat your rival stadium. Has a way
of glossing over these things. Ofcourse, that treats the symptoms, not
the cause. It's not all Carnell'sfault. His best player, Louvin is
hurt supportedly or has a falling out, maybe as the criminally underrated Najole Bloom.
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Cornell is finally wise up to thepast two games and resisted the temptation
to start the very nice, veryhard working, but limited a Z Jackson
in the middle. Jackson's defense,he has constantly played in a role that
does not suit his strengths. Cornellalso seems to finally see that Celio pompe
is good, although not great.Hopefully Bradley's growth continues. He realized that
isolating Big Sam is only hurting theteam and decreasing his transfer value if the
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club wants to move him on.This wouldn't be the first time in soccer,
any sport, that coach is dugin his whole for himself by publicly
airing grievance is about a player.The best solution for a player in the
team is always to get the playerplaying again, even it's just to get
the player traders sold. There aresome happy clapper who may bristle it my
very mild measured criticism of a manager. As a fan base, we need
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to grow up and every other sportis acceptable to criticize a manager. In
MLS, at least half the fanbase thinks there's one of the seven Deadly
sins. I can't go on anyfurther because he says terrible things about Kansas.
See well with that lead in andthen followed by this, this characteristic
song that we always use. Wehave you know who on the phone.
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Would you like to enter the Deanof Saint Louis sucker reportage from the Saint
Louis Post dispatch and other things,Tom tenor Hi Tom, maybe isn't there.
He's there, but we just havea technical Yes ast novilla one bonn
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with one. Now that's okay,you can say those. I can say
that. Let's which I'm filling intime that we need here. Oh yeah,
because the Dean of Saint Louis soccerreportages, we're having phone because in
a long time you can hear himon that phone. But he can't hear
him on the other phone. Getthe vase, Get the vase, the
vase out, Get the vase out. Yeah, we could. What are
(46:13):
we going to do, Ted,We don't know yet. I think we
should punt. All right, We'regonna punt. We may not be hearing
from Tom Timmerman today to technical issues. He is on is on on the
road again. Gives me an opportunityto give another score. Okay, go
ahead, the sixtieth minutes verta Braymantwo stood gott nil. Oh what do
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you think about that? Jim?You got your Bayern Munich? Sure on't
yet? I do you know?I haven't been seeing a lot of Bondesleagua
Las year. So where do thosetwo stand in the in the league?
Those two teams? All right,we're going to text. Taught me the
number he's gonna call us. Oh, okay, there we go. So
Jim, let's tell your book alittle bit again. What's it called Saves?
(46:58):
Saves? So it's a little bitof a teaser, and I think
when you get into the book thatyou'll find it Saves really has nothing to
do with soccer and everything to dowith all the people that have been in
my life to kind of keep megoing over all these years. And how
does somebody get it? I mean, you just can't, you know,
come over and I'll sell your mine. Maybe, But it's www. Dot
(47:19):
inspire me stories dot com. Inspireme Stories is all one word. I'll
see those artis, I'll sign thosebooks if they're local in Saint Louis,
and ninety percent of the time I'lldeliver them to your house myself. That's
tells you how busy I am intoday. Well, dude, I think
you deserve that aspect of it.Uh oh, it seems like a bit
(47:40):
of deal in trying to buy yourstoime, because you'll get just going to
raise the price. Yeah, ladiesand gentlemen, the d we just call
them the D. Tom Timmerman,are you there, Tom, I'm here.
I'm waiting for the music to pick. I'll I'm not here, Okay,
there is all right? All rightnow, I'm but before I started,
(48:04):
just uh a brief announcement that thisthis section of the program is brought
to you by funding by the ChubbGroup of insurance Companies and by the National
Endowment for the Arts Chubb BBS noChubb those are people that lend Trump the
money. So yeah, we takethe funding where we can find it.
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Okay, so we're the connection isnot great time, I'm going to just
let you talk and we'll see howthat works. Talk about the game.
You know, it was like Iguess any good tie should be. It
was both encouraging and discouraging. Imean they, you know, three goals
clauses back on this game. Uh, you know, they're creating chances and
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then they you know, gave upyou know, three goals that I asked
Carnell after the game, I said, Joe reach goals kind of annoying in
their own way, and he said, Joe Leo liked you like you on
flabbergasted. So yeah, so thatwas and as Klaus said, you know
these are learning times, but whenare we going to learn? So you
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know, so yeah, you know, you know, they they they can't
keep giving up three goals a game. I mean, that's that's obviously a
non winning moment right there. Whenthey do that. Scoring three goals is
great, uh, and so yeah, it's so defensively, you know,
they had done well the previous twogames and then they you know, come
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up with this. I mean actuallyit's try. It's the second game in
a row in which Klaus made orLouse Burke made no say, you know,
against Austin is because there were noshots on goals and this time there
were three shots on goal and theyall went in and one of them,
which was an own goal off ofBurke and the others though, I mean
(49:51):
were you know, not his fault. But yeah, it's you know,
if they can limit those chances abit more and you're not gonna, you
know, with somebody to zero shotson goal every game, but uh yeah,
I mean that's just something they gotto focus on. And you know,
and you know, if Nielsen's outthere, does it happen differently?
I mean it's a you know,constantly changing cast of characters there. And
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if they finally get some stability,does that make things better? I don't
know, but yeah, it's ayou know, you like what Klaus is
doing now, I mean, andhe's doing stuff on both ends of the
field. He's all over the placedoing a good job, you know,
and the chances he's creating. Andalso you liked obviously yesterday to see City
(50:37):
get physical and really take it tothe other team and they you know,
they found it away. That's supportingin Kansas City, certainly on the first
two goals where you know, theshoulders came into play very prominently on those.
So that was that was a bigthing. And uh a, Klaus
afterwards say, yeah, I wantto when the valerable you know, goes
(51:00):
challenging for the ball. It wasa duel that I won. So so
I would say Klaus's maybe I madeittier because because Klaus, I mean,
Klaus wasn't playing the ball. Klauswas playing the man and Klaus sent that
guy fly and there was a battleand they were going at him. Uh
but Klaws just kind of ran overand smacked the guy into Tuesday. I
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mean, it was it was,it was it was something yeah for me.
For meis comments about the fiscal playwere spot on. It's like,
hey, deal with it and uhmaybe dish some out yourself. Yeah,
I mean that was it. It'slike like if the rest are gonna call
it, then you gotta best theway you're gonna play the game. And
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it was clear certainly after Durkins wonthat Alan Chapman was going to let him
go and uh and Klaus certainly tookadvantage of that Hey, Tom, what's
your yes, what's your take onthe whole big fam situation? I'm gonna
say, if the guy's not doingsomething in practice that you want them to
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see, this is how you sendmessages, not to just him, but
to the whole team. And soyou know, if he's saying, look,
we Cornell saying look, we wantto this is the way we're going
to play, and we're expecting thisout of everybody. And if you've got
a guy that's not doing it youdon't do anything about it, well,
then what does that say to everybodyelse? So I think, you know,
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it's it's kind of you gotta doit. I mean, that's the
way I see it. I mean, it's one of those cases where if
you want to have a good cohesivemessage to the team, you got to
do it, you know. Andif you I mean, if you listen
though to everything. And I don'tknow how many players I've talked to since
this first started, you know,six or eight, and every one of
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them has started talking about how importantit is to you know, empty the
tank and go all out, andit's you know, it's it's like they
all had the message, but nowit's like you know, bubbling up to
the services again. They're just talkingabout how much you got to do this,
and we have principles and this iswhat we stand for. It's it's
like in some way everybody's you know, trying to tell Sam about this.
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So it's like it's like the differencebetween talking about your principles and living your
principles. Yeah, I think that'sa that's a very very concise and proper
way to say it. Gosh,thank you, that's the nicest thing you've
ever said to me. Well,you know, yeah, I mean I
feel give credit where credit is due. So okay, well, well here
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I have another question for you.Then, what do you think is going
on with what you think we're goingto see moving again? Is this about
an injury or I can't. FirstI thought it was because he was injured.
Now is his Is his a nonuh playing injury kind of separation too?
What's going on there? No,wells that Trendelle said that there's a
(54:00):
there's an illness in Lubin's family.Oh okay, Okay, I think that's
it. I mean, he gothurt and then something else happened in the
family. Okay, So it's it'ssome family issues, so we're going to
just leave it alone. I thinkby it don't we agree with that?
Yeah, that would be I thinkthe proper thing to do. And until
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unless, if and when ed whowants to talk about it, he'll talk
about it. But yeah, Idon't. We don't need to get into
that. So I don't know.From watching the game last night, I
was thrilled to get for this teamto get a point out of that game.
You know, I mean they're playingin a tough opponent, in a
tough environment, an opponent that whippedup on him at the end of last
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year. You know what do youthink? Well, yes, but I
mean in the sixty fifth minute orwhatever, they were up two to one,
and you know, when they couldhave gotten two have gotten three points
out of it, so you know, it's you know, so yes,
I mean it's kind of like theLa Galaxy game where they were minutes away
from getting a uh, you know, from getting three points and then they
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give up a ninety first or secondminute goal and and then they only give
one. So you know that's yeah, yes, it was good to get
fun, but three were right therefor them. Uh, you know,
if they had you know, tightenedat that game, and they kind of
you know, they started the secondhalf was okay, and then they kind
(55:28):
of stopped attacking. Yeah, andthey kind of let the game of the
city bring it to them. Andthat's where they got into trump. I
mean, and there's another round caseswhere they had chances earlier on and they've
gotten those goals, and they pickedup one more goal earlier. You know,
they they put it away and theydidn't do that. Hey, Tom,
where's the game? Uh? Nextweek? Next by? By?
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Oh? Buy next? Okay,So so what have the don't let a
scrimmage with City two? That shindclosed doors? Probably the City two is
off next week. Okay, Well, well, well we'll have a better
connection probably, Hey, we gottago. Brother, probably won't be I
probably won't be driving on ice seventies. Well you never know with you though,
(56:10):
that's true. That's true. Ijust asked Columbia Tom Timmerman. Ladies
and gentlemen, Tom, what updates? Bye bye? Semi Finally THEFA Cup
Coventry City Neil Manchester United one.Wow. Now the twenty eight minutes Grateful
Dead taking us to the top ofthe I here a friend of the devil's
(56:30):
friend of mine. Well, Ithought that was a personal statement on your
part. Hasn't been in the past, but I'm glad you've cleaned up.
I like to be, you know, open to everyone's opinion, but I
don't always agree with him. How'sthat working out for you? I didn't
vote for Trump? Worked that fine? Wow? Moving right along here here
will be that wraps up the endof the first segment. But please sit
(56:53):
down, Baker, Relax like adeep breath. Don't get excited. We'll
be back. Just gotta go awayfor a couple of minutes and pay some
bills. You're listening to STL UnitedSoccer Sunday coming to you here from the
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(57:13):
she got my child, But untilit looks like we sit out and take
my time A friend that never asa friend of mine, and I get
answer. Sweet
Going to the city, Got youon the Gotcha shot, jes Days,
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Oh sorry, I'm your announcer,Redmondo. Of course. In today's lineup
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(01:41):
with a big question Mark pending thatlast conversation. But we think he's here,
Well he's on he's on the roadagain. Yes, but he's on
the magic bus. Perfect. Therehe is. You can see the club
unfortunately as driving. Where was I? But now I digress. You're getting
through the introduction. Okay, backto where we were. Now back to
(02:02):
me in studio today, of courseis our usual crew got ted running the
board, the professor, the voiceof the Empire, mister Russell Blye,
Doctor Russell Blyde. Down there Imet Mundo. I said, we have
mister Tjens sitting here next to me, and now the driver of this magic
(02:23):
bus, your host, my buddy, friend of all even dogs and children,
mister Tom Swartz. Thank you,ed Mundo. Hey, at the
press conference the other day, whowas talking? I can't remember who was
talking? One of the players,but anyway, who referred to Totland not
(02:44):
as Tater tots, not as touttiTody. You know who Tody is?
Was fabulous player, Italian player.I forget which teams he played for,
Bouti tutti tutti Roma, Yeah,exactly, never left Roma anyway. That's
(03:05):
how uh, why can't I rememberwho was at the at the press conference.
No, it wasn't Indie. Regardless, he referred to oh you know
who it was. It was theCzech guy. What's the Czech guy's name,
Thomas Ostrok. Yeah, and hereferred to him as Toti. And
I thought, man, I'll tellyou something. At the press conference,
(03:30):
it Ostrok, who when he camewas struck me as a shy little kid.
He was very meek, very meek, not as a player, but
in the in the conversations. Secondlanguage, no no, no, no,
no fifth language. By the way, he was learning English his fifth
(03:52):
language. And I just thought,meek is a good is a good word.
And I thought, well, atthe press conference the other day,
he was smile city baby. Hewas sitting there, he was taking all
the English question. I mean,he had no trouble. Somebody asked him
a question to kind of confuse him. You can't use a colloquialism. Colloquialism
(04:13):
with players because they don't get it. What well exactly, Yeah, could
you say that again? But thiskid was his English. You know,
I'm around a lot of people whoEnglish as their second third language, and
some they're hard to understand. Somepeople who've lived here ten fifteen years.
(04:34):
You know, sometimes they're a littlemore difficult to understand. I know sometimes
I confuse you a lot. Ididn't want to mention your name, but
oh my god. Ostrak was likeI was stunned, and he's learned that
you guys are all a bunch ofbig marshmallows. Anyway, Well, yeah,
why would that be hard? Imean, tell me something else.
(04:54):
Anyway, We're gonna talk about citythrough the through the show today, a
hopefully our our friends will be calling. But in the studio with us is
a guy who just wrote a bookcalled Saves. And his name is Jim
Teesians and he's a Saint Louis guy, has as a wealth of history Saint
(05:15):
Louis University as a player. Igotta ask you this question, Jim,
Welcome, Welcome, Jim, thankyou great to be here. Jeff Kushno,
you wrote this with Jeff? Ishe in a relation of Paul Kushno?
Do you know? I'm not sureJeff was a South County Saint Tim's
guy. Yes, sir, wehave a score updated its Gibton two,
(05:40):
Nottingham Forest Nil. Oh, good, welcome Jim. Get used to Jim
Russell usually saves his most intrusive bellsfor when you're at a particular point in
your story where you're may, Ithought maybe I did something wrong. No,
no, you have done Dan,Dan Glenn was here. He was
(06:01):
sharing his h story of the dayhe got the call for his heart transplant.
He was here, yes, yes, and he's never shared that with
me. And I'll send you thepodcast, okay. And he was at
a pivotal moment in that story,all right, And well, well we're
all breaking listen, we're listening tohim, and we're all going and about,
(06:24):
like you know, kind of atthe point of breakdown. And then
here it is, someone's on thephone for you. And what was the
score that day? Russ something likefour three, So Russia dortmun versus muchin
godboch and and and Dan, it'sjust like he did. I mean,
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he didn't even stop, Okay,Russell, you know he'd be pointing out
so you know, the sooner youget used to it. Usually what he
does is wait for your most vulnerablemoment to do it. Well, you
know, in support of Dan,they can't do anything till he gets there.
So I can tell you a quickstory about when I got the last
call. That was back in uhOkay, August of twenty eighteen. It
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was a Saturday, I just haddialysis. I was home. I was
laying in bed, sleeping. Theywere trying to reach me for a couple
of hours. No one could geta hold of me. And when they
finally did get a hold of me, my answer was, you know,
I don't know. I'm working twodays a week. I'm getting full pay.
It's a pretty good gig going onright now. So this is the
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ball for your second. That's right. That was the second when I needed
the heart and kidney, and Iwas kind of half asleep, and I
just was kind of like, hey, you know, I'm only working two
days a week because as I wason dialysis the other three. I'm getting
one hundred percent pay. It's nota bad gig. And then within twenty
minutes, Oh this is a SouthCounty boy. Yeah, within twenty minutes,
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my friend Dominic Barcheski and his wifewas over at the house right the
bed, helping me pack a back. Okay, so let's let's let's start
this journey. You find out aboutthis what's the disease you have? So
I have idiopathic cardio myopathy. Idiopathiccardio myopathy. So it's a hereditary disease,
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hereditary, hereditary. It comes frommy dad. My dad passed away
when he was thirty two years old. I was twenty one months old.
Wow, So he was the firstto pass at thirty two. And then
I had a sister who came downwith idiopathic cardiomiopith. She was in the
Navy. She also passed away atthirty two years old, same as my
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dad. So it was kind oflike at certain points, somebody flipped a
switch, yeah, and your heartbegins to fail. So at that point,
I was kind of preparing that it'sgoing to come, so be ready.
So it happened to me, sohold on, let me stop you
at that point when your sister,and it happened pretty quickly that she passed
pretty quickly. Well, my sisterwas at the Navy, and so she
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was out in California and she wasbeing seen by the doctors in the Navy.
So it was probably a two anda half year our deal. Because
what happens is the heart muscle justdoesn't fail all at once. It slowly
gets bigger, slowly swells and slowlykind of gets out a rhythm and just
gets much sicker. So it's it'snot something that happens really quick, and
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it has nothing to do with fitness, because you're an absolutely you're a goalie,
you know, for God's sake,he's in the Saint Louis Soccer Hall
of Fame. Ted. Yes,no, I actually ran a marathon.
I ran a marathon when I wasI think I was twenty seven or twenty
eight, and ironically the marathon finishedon the steps of Barnes Hospital. Wow.
And that's where I had my transplants, so they shot out the Barnes
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hospital, you know I had WhenI was fifty four, I had a
really bad case of acid into refluxand my wife finally convinced me to go
to see the doctor. And thenext I was recovering from will bypass.
And I used to think that wasa big deal, and then old Dan
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Flynn had to, you know,do me one up. But the stuff
you're talking about is simply okay,let's let's go through your situation. You
had, you had an idea.Oh wait a minute, Dan Flynn says,
Hi, he's listening. Yeah,I haven't seen him in a while,
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and we generally try to get togethera few months to have yeah,
breakfast or brunch, So I needto be calling him on that. Yeah,
come on, Jen, Sorry,Dany get that book boys, get
that booked. Ninth minute, CrystalPalace one, west Ham United, Neil.
I didn't want to hear that.I didn't want to hear that,
although west Ham probably you know there. We'll get back to them later.
(10:50):
So we're at the situation where howold are you when your sister passes?
I was. She was passed whenshe was thirty two, so I was
twenty nine, twenty nine, andI was pretty much accepting at that point.
Before you, before your sister foundout she had this situation, you
were obviously aware of it, thepotential that you would have it for your
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entire life. Yeah, well shedidn't really start getting it until she was
about thirty one, Okay, Soas soon as she got it, I
knew that. Okay, So you'rein your late twenties exactly, You're you're
at the height of your athletic skills. Not really, I'd come back home
and return. By the time Iwas twenty five, I went to work
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for Rowling, supporting goods. Oh, that's where you got the truck driver.
Yeah, that's where I got thetruck driver. So that's where I
got you know, started slowing down. I was actually walking up the hill
to the Stone Hill Winery in Herman, and I'd have to stop every ten
feet and hold onto the railing.And that's where I really realized something's not
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righting right, you know, something'snot right. And at that point,
my sister had already passed, soI was kind of preparing for it anyway.
So you know, it was justmy whole life was about preparation,
preparing to succeed in athletics, youknow, so it just didn't seem like
a huge deal. I knew itwas coming. I tried to prepare for
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it, so when it came,I had great confidence in the doctors.
And I'm not saying it wasn't abig deal, but you know, it's
just, you know, you prepareto succeed, and that's kind of this
is what you've been doing your wholelife. You're right, you know when
you say that, it's like,it's I'm pretty good at it. I've
got really good at recovering. Ido what I'm supposed to do. Most
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of the time, I do whatthe doctors tell me to do, but
I do have my own sort ofrecovery method and it works for me.
And it's always trying to stay fit. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
So you've had two heart transplants,a kidney transplant, and cancer. I
have. Yes, the medication fromthe heart transplants that shuts down your immune
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system, it makes you more susceptibleto cancers. And when I first had
my first heart transplant, they hadthat number about ten to fifteen percent more
susceptible to cancers, you know.Come to find out years later it's really
about thirty five to forty percent moresusceptible the cancers. So I had a
very bad stage four non honchos foma, and I thought for about you don't
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mess around with anything like you know, like a you know, like,
oh, I'm not going to havea quad It's not like a basal cell
carcino. Yeah, yeah, exactly, I'm gonna go straight to four stage.
I would not make light of abypass. Those are tough surgeries,
you know, I mean really,the heart transplant lasts like a couple hours,
two and a half hours. Maybethey go in, they take your
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heart out, they put the newheart in, and they stitch you back
up and like they go in,they take your heart out and slapping in.
You know, you're out the door. While they're doing they change,
you know, they while they're doingit, they change the oil spark plug
in your car. Well with thewith the kidney you got, you know,
you get too. I mean,first of the heart guys in there
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putting the harden, then the kidneyguy comes in. And in my case,
the second time around, I hada lot of a lot of swelling
from the old transplant, so alot of scar tissue, so they had
to keep me open for a daybefore they can go in there and clean
it out. But I will saythe first heart transplant, on the third
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day, they wheeled a stationary bikein in my room and the doctor said,
do you have a good, goodyoung heart. I want you to
get on his bike and use it. Wow. And I was like petrified,
thinking, are you crazy, Something'sgonna snap in there and blood it's
gonna start squirting all over the place. But he put me on the bike
and that's the confidence I needed toget going. I'm a huge stationary bike
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fan. By the way. Wegotta do a quick station ID. Yeah,
oh, this is a STL Unitedsoccer Sunday coming to you live from
KF that's five nine. Got theWho playing there in the background, talking
about my generation. I see we'replaying a lot of Who music today,
so we will hear some of themthroughout the show. Once again, here's
your host Tom Schwarz. So we'rewith Jim ten. He has a new
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book called Saves, The Amazing Storyof American goalkeeper Jim Tech's with Jeff Kushno,
and you're going to find out forme if he's in a relation of
Paul Kushno. Jeff is a Southsiderwho went to Vianni. He did have
an older brother that I think thatpassed away. Is that who you're talking
about? Probably at one point,remember one of the South County journals,
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North County Journals had all the sports. Jeff was the sports director of the
North County Journal. That was backin the day when you had twenty pages
of high school sports. I missI missed that. Wow, Now that
is those time time going by quickaside, those things also had the best
one ads. You find out kindsof strange things being advertised. Anyway,
(15:58):
I digress back then, Jeff,back to lucky over here. Yeah,
no kidding. Uh. I alwaysthought I was the luckiest guy in the
world. Well, okay, whatwould you think of a big deal?
I mean, it just blows mymind. I was really lucky in my
situation because I thought I had acidreflux, and then the next day I
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had I was coming out of surgery. Any time to think of it,
right, it just boom boom happened. And I always think that, like
my wife's had breast cancer. Anynumber of my friends have had cancer,
and I always think that's that's theworst because it's so much waiting. Yeah,
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I agree one hundred percent. Thecancer was a big deal. It
was stage four. The doctor gaveme a fifty to fifty chance, and
what do you tell what'd you tellhim at that moment? I told her
that she doesn't know me, orshe didn't know how I operate. So
I quickly gave myself twenty five extraand said, it's seventy five to twenty
five, and I'll take those oddsany day of the week, oh man.
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And that was just kind of myapproach. But it was ten months
of hell. It was scary.You know, it's a personal battle.
Tell people what what that cancer islike, and well, you can't do
surgery for it. They just getit cut out. I don't. Yeah,
that's a good question. I youknow, you may know more about
that than me just hearing that question. But uh yeah, it's it's it
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gets in your blood. It's ablood it's a blood cancer. So there's
not surgery. No, you're justsorry. Here we are, he is
on he is on course, heis on palace. To shut up.
That's an important get sorry. Wellit's for me. Uh So, Okay,
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back to whatever you were saying.Continue, I mean I was talking
about. I mean, there's nodoubt that the cancer was the hardest thing,
the ten months of chemo treatment.I mean, basically, they're putting
poison in your body. They're tryingto find the right mix of poison that
kills the cancer and doesn't kill you. After I had ten treatments, I'd
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rather I had twelve treatments. Afterthe six to one, they told me
that the cancer was if they stoppedtreatments today, the cancer would be in
remission. So that was like ahuge mental success thing for me, where
I thought I'm halfway through it.I've reached the top of the mountain.
Now every treatment is one less.Do these people that have helped you,
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these people, the medical people havehelped you, do they have you come
to talk to people? They did? When I was younger, the transplant
people did a lot less. Nowthat I've gotten older, I began to
do a lot of speaking now onmy own, since I've written the book.
I'm actually speaking at a Rawling SportingGood sale meeting next week. And
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I worked at Rawlings for thirteen yearsand went up and saw them after I
was visiting in station up at Westport, saw some of my old buddies and
they called me a few days later, bought some of the books and asked
me to speak at their sales meetings. So you know, I enjoy it.
Well, I'm gonna just tell youright now, you're the last person
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that you're the last person. Rightas you're going out, what is your
a patient? And it's like they're, okay, we gave you a little
shot, and we're going to countdownfrom ten and they get you get to
about six. You ought to comein at that point and say you're gonna
make it. I think at onepoint, they were a little nervous of
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having me come in because I wasdoing so good. I was still very
athletic. You know a lot ofpeople that have heart problems, not all
of them, but some people.All the problems are related to the lifestyle
they lived. But when they hadyoung people, I would go in and
talk to the young people and kindof guide them through it. I would
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even take some of the people whenthey got out of the hospital to the
gym and show them how I'd workout. And you know, basically,
it's slowly building up your confidence inyour argan that you can do what you
want. I always had my ownprogram, you know, I always because
you knew who you are, youkind of learned your body. I had
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knew my body my whole life fromathletics, right and I was a bit
of an overachiever because I wasn't agreat athlete. So you come to know
your body and how hard you canpush yourself. So that was kind of
mymo through the whole time. Theother thing I did is when I had
I never would see myself as apatient. I would always see myself as
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a person, and when I hadthese small challenges are the big challenges like
lymphoma, I would put them inlittle bubbles. When I had lymphoma,
I was I believe, let's seethirty two. I was forty three years
old. So I said to myself, Okay, this is a this is
a ten month event. I've gota lot of years beyond ten months.
So if I can put this inthis little bubble and live through it for
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ten months and do what I endurethe pain and do what I have to
do to give myself a chance,I've still got a lot of years left.
And that made it a lot easieron my part. Now, I
will say one of the chemos damagedmy lungs severely. There were four different
chemo meds. One of them damagedmy lungs and they had found out that
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they were the lungs are very bad, and they said they may you know,
I said to the doctor, well, what's going to happen. What's
the prognosis? And she, youknow, quite honestly said straight up,
she said could be fatal. Andjust I wasn't happy with her personally telling
me that, and I and Itook that on as a personal challenge and
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we'll see about that. And itwas very interesting because every day I'd get
up, I'd take my little IVthing down to the lobby and I'd walk
one light post farther than the daybefore. And then finally they let me
go home. And when they letme go home, unbeknownst to me,
they believed that. They told melater that they thought i'd be back the
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next day or two the hospital,and I didn't. I went straight to
the gym, and I can feelmyself every day at the gym slowly getting
better. So finally I went backa week before Christmas and they tested me
and they were all couldn't believe it. You know, your lungs are one
hundred percent cure Crystal Palace three waystime. I told you to shut up,
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all right, So I'm going ona little long no no no,
no, no no no. Tedjust reminded me, because we want,
we know you, We have youfor a limited time, and pretty soon
we're going to start to fucking citystuff. So I want you, we
want you right now to tell anybodywho's listening, tell just tell us what's
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the most important thing that you havetaken out of this What do you need
to tell us? Because because quitefrankly, we're asking you. It's like
sports, it's a team. Everything'sa team. You got to surround yourself
with good friends, which I haveall my life. You know, you
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know, the soccer world Saint Louisis a brotherhood, right regardless of whether
you know someone personally, if youplay it against him, there's immediate respect.
It's a brotherhood. It's family,it's friends, it's doctors, it's
nurses, you know, it's it'sGod. I mean, he's got to
be the head of your team.It's the people at Mid America Transplant,
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It's the people that clean the roomsin the hospital. It's a whole team,
and you're part of that team.So you know, you've got to
engage with all these people. Imean, they've been there so often when
I needed help. I mean,through this chemo. Peer you can't do
this on your own. I meanthere's times when people are carrying you and
those are your friends, those areyour family members, those are your teammates.
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And I'm still in touch, youknow, weekly with my state championship
teammates from Oakville High School. Soyou know, you've got to surround yourself
with good people. You've got toengage them as they're part of the family.
You're part of the family, andmake sure at all times that you're
your own advocate and you're kind ofkeeping track of what the team's doing and
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making sure, you know, ongame day, everyone's ready to go.
On game day, in this situation, when I go down and I have
a heart transplant and I'm like,hey, okay, is everyone ready to
go? Everyone have a good night'ssleep. I'm ready to go. How
about you? If you're not onyour game, let's put this off,
you know, so just a positiveattitude and it's a team. I'm about
to give you the greatest compliment Ican give another uni being. You remind
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me of my mom. Well,it's it's interesting you say that because my
mom is the biggest influence on mylife. You know, I grew up
without a father, and my momknew that we were all going to have
hard life. And you know,I can't say in some spectacular way,
but my mom just raised us ina culture that whenever we got knocked down,
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she made us get back up immediately. And again, it's nothing flamboyant
or spectacular, but my mom iswhy I'm here today. You're the living
epitome of her favorite expression, tomMy glass isn't half full, it's overflowing.
And I mean, you're this.I like how it tied into the
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soccer towards the end of the segment. I mean because the the it.
Ever, I'm trying to find somethingyou've said so far that I can disagree
with, and I just can't disagreewith anything you've said so far. I
mean, you're you are just anincredible example for people. And I mean
that about the last person before thedrip kicks in, because the attitude,
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Oh you got a fifty to fiftychance, and you said, yeah,
okay, well everybody else got fiftyto fifty. The way I do it,
it's an extra twenty five. Youremind me of my good friend Ed
and my good friend Bob Bloine,Doctor Bob, the guy who used to
shoot He broke his toe and heused to shoot himself up before Monday night
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basketball to play. And he gota really bad diagnosis from the doctor about
he had stomach cancer. I believeis what the essence of it was.
But I told my wife about it, and my wife is a medical person
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and she just cuts everything to thequick. She'll tell you, well,
her action was Jim. Bob hadtold me that the doctors said he had
a five to ten percent chance tolive. And Sally and I were talking,
and he said, he said,that's a less than five percent chance
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that he's got. And what Bobhad told me is, they give me
this ten percent chance to live.But damn it, I've got my friends.
I've got you guys on this team, I Blob family, and I've
got my God, and I'm goingto beat this m ever and he did.
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That was twenty something years ago,and at the time, well at
the time, quite frankly, Iwas administering medical marijuana to him through myself,
blowing smoking a joint, blowing smokein his face. This this was
twenty over twenty years ago, andI was I hadn't been doing it a
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lot, and I was pretty ripped. But it was a transformational moment in
my life. And I that's theday that I found out what belief is.
Talk about belief, Well again,I go back in the team,
you know, to the team,and if you surround yourself with all these
people, you've got the support youneed to survive. And you know,
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I'm just a normal human being,a very simple guy. Right. I
haven't always. If I could usethe S word, excuse us b s
sir, But but you know,there's hard times. I'm not gonna kid
yet. There were times that Iwas tears. There were times where I
was like, oh, not again. And those are the times your friends
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step in. They carry you.You know. After my second heart transplant,
I got a pneumonia and seedff withinthirty six hours every day, and
I don't know what's going on.I know something's not right because I feel
it. But my urgents coming inevery day and he's telling me, Jim,
your heart and your kidneys are strong, they're doing great. Just hang
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in there, keep fighting. AndI'm thinking, you know, I'm thinking
to myself, I'm an adult man. He's not gonna lie to me.
If my heart and kidneys are doinggreat, I can keep this fight up
right exactly exactly, and that's whatkept me going. So you know,
in the times when you're down,you're having a hard day, and there's
plenty of those times, it's thepeople around you. I can't tell you
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how many soccer players that were competitorsthat I never met face to face other
on the field who have heard fromto pump me up. And it's just
it's a special thing. It's specialbeing in this fraternity. You know,
when I go to the Hall ofFame banquet and there's a thousand people there,
you're just in the presence of greatness. You know. You see guys
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like el Trost, you know,Pete Soerber, he's one I always mentioned.
Of course Pat McBride, and it'sjust like everyone's there, and you
know, everyone asks how you're doing, and everyone knows about you, and
oh, we're we're not shoting.Jim Leaker ted, Yeah, she was
at the Amateur Baseball has Night withhis green jacket O Jim. I become
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friendly with Jim, and it's just, I mean, I feel like the
luckiest guy in the world. Ishouldn't be here. I got two kids,
I've got a granddaughter. And thereal miracle. The situation is there's
six people in our family that werepositive to the bad heart gene. Six
people, Okay, and then mytwo kids come along, Jimmy and Annie.
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They're the first two in the familythat don't have their negative to the
bad heart She it's they don't haveit. They could never get it.
And you were baking the Tejan's family. I have a nine year old granddaughter,
Jia. She doesn't even have tobe tested because her dad doesn't have
it. How can I positive?The science thing is way overrated? Don't
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that the we're listening to the Who'ssinger can't explain. Because some things you
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just can't explain. You just haveto accept them. Believe you're listening to
soccer Sunday right here on KFN Sfive nine of the Fan ed Mundo.
We're going to go pay some billsright now. I'm whipping out my credit
card as I speak. We'll beright back. Don't touch the dial.
See you in a minute again.Shakira, Shakira, good. The first
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day a man. We're dancing inthe studio. Every time we hear that
welcome back everybody to you stl UnitedSoccer Sunday coming to you, hear from
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k f N S five nine inthe fan and beautiful Saint Louis Mole that
music means one thing, and onething only online is none other than our
correspondent. Passy and ladies and gentlemen, it's time for I can't remember it.
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I can't remember what he told meto say. Anyway, Santiago bell
dry. Once again, the adhoc nature of the program reveals itself.
Santi, Santi, what did youtell me? I was supposed to call
you? Love us? Love usstill go Santi? How you doing?
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Are you back home or you stillcasey? Where are you? Baby?
No? I am. I amhere in Chesterfield and got home at in
the morning or something like that.It's still with the adrenaline of a great
game. It was a great gameto call. I'm glad I was there.
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There were any city stands on thatjourney on ice that when you were
there? Well, I I flewuh for this one? Whoa we stop?
Wait wait a minute, wait aminute, wait a minute. No,
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that's not Russell telling me that myfavorite team is down Noil four.
That is Santi, you flew withthe team to Casey. Is that is
that what you said? Yeah?I love it. I love it,
so Santi? What do you thinkabout that game last night? It was
a it was a very entertaining game. It's too bad at a couple of
(34:45):
plays when Sporting cases way, andI'm sure the team will look at those
and and see how they can correctcorrect things like that. But City did
a great job dominated for a longforce of the game, and I think
the tie at the end he wasdeserved. He would have been really bad
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to come home empty without points,but I'm glad that the team was able
to fight. And in that lastplay, Thomas Dotland gets a ball and
and like if he was a striker, he puts it away for his first
goal in MLS. Did you hear? What? Did you hear? What?
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Ostrich how he referred to Tottler andhis nickname The other day at the
press conference, he referred to himas Totti, as in what Francisco.
I love that. I love thatAnd I'm not sure and I don't know
if it's Totty or Toddy with aD. I think it's more with the
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d because I think I have HarryCarnell call him that too. I guess
we're gonna have to ask him.Yeah, that's that's the next thing.
I almost asked the other day,but I didn't get a second chance.
So okay, Sam didn't make thetrip. What's up with that? He's
still training separately And obviously there isnot a lot of information just Carnel's remarks
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that he's training separately until more thingsare said. But but yeah, I
just don't know what's going on.But to me, it sounds like maybe
he's not happy with something, andbased on Carnel's words, to me,
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it sounds like he's not committed tothe cause at this point between the lines.
That's what I can read. Butobviously we won't know anything. And
let's let's think about it in termsof what of what we know about just
world football generally constantly in every league, not on every team, but in
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every league in that I've ever readabout, there are players who were at
I didn't realize he was. Thiswas the last year of his contract,
so he he wants he wants somethingother than the team wants that that that
seems clear by Brad's comments, right, I mean he's not he's not in
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sync. The whole thing about Cityis that you know, next man up,
you know, we're all together,you know wherever. You know,
that doesn't seem to be applicable inthis particular case. And you know,
all over the world, players whenthey want, when they want another contracts.
Did he what turned down a contractwith the team in Norway for him?
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Right? Yeah? There was,Yeah, there was a room more
about an offer made dot CD rejectthere for a or a million dollars I
believe, But that was like fourweeks ago. And Sam started the season
really well, scoring, but thelast few weeks he didn't start and didn't
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have a lot of playing time eventhough he was doing well. And I
think that that's where things are happening. Maybe he wasn't happy with his playing
time or also unhappy with that transfer, which ceely not accepting that offer.
Could be a combination of both things. But as you said, the team
and him are not aligned at themoment. Yeah, yeah, I personally
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not anything I know about him orthe team or anything like that, just
putting him into a category of youknow, things I've observed before in watching
teams that I like in Europe,it's not uncommon when a player makes it
clear that he wants to move.You know what other ways does he have
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to express himself other than to youknow what Sam's doing. I'm not I'm
not I'm all for City, right, I mean, but I'm also aware
of the fact that players want toplay and players want to move to the
next level, and so to tobe actus to be accusing anyone of of
(39:28):
that is sort of stupid because that'swhat everybody wants to do, right,
Yeah. Yeah, So well,we'll see what happens in the next few
days. Hopefully this can be resolvedsoon because because yeah, Sam is a
good piece for the team, whetherhe starts or not. He's an explosive
(39:51):
player and has continuted with goals andas he is this season, and it's
a position where where the team doesn'thave a lot of death, right,
it's important this is we solved oneone way or the other. And it
doesn't mean anybody's bad person or badbad faith. It's just the way it
is. Hey, Santi, wegot a roll buddy, all right,
(40:14):
thanks for having me, all right, thank you very much. Lovoca HeLa
Levosa Levosovo. No, what isit, Santi He's That's what I just
shut up, ed, God,somebody's gotta thank Santia about drums. Sally's
(40:35):
not Sally's not in the studio,So somebody's got to step up till that
wall. Hey, a couple coupleof go go updates. Here. It's
a crystal Palace four west Ham Unitedone in the second Russell didn't I ask
you too bad? Stopped Aston Villanil Born with one in the forty second.
Man, you are so filled withjournalistic integrity. I am, yes,
(40:55):
even though I could be wearing awest Ham shirt under this. You
don't know Everton to Nottingham Forest nilis final. You're a horrible person.
There was something, some big collisionout there too, that carried a goy
office. Yeah they did. Yeah, yeah, it was well Everton.
So the end of it, thismight keep Everton. This is a cru
There was a crucial bottom of theof the table battle that one. Yeah
(41:19):
yeah, three points at the Imean the Premier League top and bottoms lifted
Everton above well above Forest now witha game in handstill actually, ed,
I'm just confirming that our next guestis no you don't have to worry about
that. I can't seem to makeit out going call a second. Oh
okay, so just just tell peopleit's you know, it's the break.
(41:45):
Well, it's your Yeah, yourlistening. Sorry, you're ready, Yeah,
we go already. All right,it's kind of three three two.
You're listening to Sto United Soccer Sundaycoming to you live from KFN S five
ninety the fan here in beautiful SaintLouis, Missouri. While were attempting to
get our next guest, who wantsto chime in about the foul non foul
(42:06):
the Claus was involved with last week. Okay, let let's let's hold that
for a second. No, it'sall good. No, it's time.
Now we're gonna talk. It washe's a bigger guy, the other guy
is smaller. The other guy bounced. Yeah, Russell's used to that stuff.
Hey, speaking speaking of you,this was in your own, in
your own way that it was avery good leading. I didn't think it
was a push either, but somesome did well. Taylor Twelman sure did.
(42:30):
Uh. It's time for the dreammail. Oh, Jim, we
need the dream mail, Jim,As seemed the dream used to actually be
on this show many years ago beforehe got a real life and uh,
he is a cerbic, I thinkwould be a word that would would fit
(42:52):
a seam and a person you don'twant to get generally in an argument with.
But he sends me these emails thathopefully everyone will understand this is not
my opinion necessarily open. Yeah,it's open court. Open quote here in
my opinion, you need you needto learn this kind of here, need
to hear this kind of stuff.So a seam writes, this is an
(43:15):
email city. So one point,Bradley strikes again that nickname for our manager
has taken hold in section two ohone, away from the glitz in the
Glamour of the prawn sandwich seats.I love that, I mean I don't
love it about Bradley because I reallylike Bradley. Let's just all agree that
(43:36):
Carnell is a very lucky guy.I mean, not Jim Tegan's lucky,
but but pretty lucky. He's isolatedas best striker speaking of sand Yes,
he's better than Klaus at most things. And goes into casey short and and
the team goes into casey short onplayers and short on ideas. Yet the
team escapes with the best sort ofdraw, the lake late equalizer, the
(43:58):
stoppage time equal especially away, especiallyat your rival stadium. Has a way
of glossing over these things. Ofcourse, that treats the symptoms, not
the cause. It's not all Carnell'sfault. His best player, Louvin is
hurt supportedly or has a falling out, maybe as the criminally underrated Najole Bloom.
(44:20):
Cornell is finally wise up to thepast two games and resisted the temptation
to start the very nice, veryhard working, but limited a Z Jackson
in the middle. Jackson's defense,he has constantly played in a role that
does not suit his strengths. Cornellalso seems to finally see that Celio pompe
is good, although not great.Hopefully Bradley's growth continues. He realized that
isolating Big Sam is only hurting theteam and decreasing his transfer value if the
(44:44):
club wants to move him on.This wouldn't be the first time in soccer,
any sport, that coach is dugin his whole for himself by publicly
airing grievance is about a player.The best solution for a player in the
team is always to get the playerplaying again, even it's just to get
the player traders sold. There aresome happy clapper who may bristle it my
very mild measured criticism of a manager. As a fan base, we need
(45:07):
to grow up and every other sportis acceptable to criticize a manager. In
MLS, at least half the fanbase thinks there's one of the seven Deadly
sins. I can't go on anyfurther because he says terrible things about Kansas.
See well with that lead in andthen followed by this, this characteristic
song that we always use. Wehave you know who on the phone.
(45:30):
Would you like to enter the Deanof Saint Louis sucker reportage from the Saint
Louis Post dispatch and other things,Tom tenor Hi Tom, maybe isn't there.
He's there, but we just havea technical Yes ast novilla one bonn
(45:51):
with one. Now that's okay,you can say those. I can say
that. Let's which I'm filling intime that we need here. Oh yeah,
because the Dean of Saint Louis soccerreportages, we're having phone because in
a long time you can hear himon that phone. But he can't hear
him on the other phone. Getthe vase, Get the vase, the
vase out, Get the vase out. Yeah, we could. What are
(46:13):
we going to do, Ted,We don't know yet. I think we
should punt. All right, We'regonna punt. We may not be hearing
from Tom Timmerman today to technical issues. He is on is on on the
road again. Gives me an opportunityto give another score. Okay, go
ahead, the sixtieth minutes verta Braymantwo stood gott nil. Oh what do
(46:34):
you think about that? Jim?You got your Bayern Munich? Sure on't
yet? I do you know?I haven't been seeing a lot of Bondesleagua
Las year. So where do thosetwo stand in the in the league?
Those two teams? All right,we're going to text. Taught me the
number he's gonna call us. Oh, okay, there we go. So
Jim, let's tell your book alittle bit again. What's it called Saves?
(46:58):
Saves? So it's a little bitof a teaser, and I think
when you get into the book thatyou'll find it Saves really has nothing to
do with soccer and everything to dowith all the people that have been in
my life to kind of keep megoing over all these years. And how
does somebody get it? I mean, you just can't, you know,
come over and I'll sell your mine. Maybe, But it's www. Dot
(47:19):
inspire me stories dot com. Inspireme Stories is all one word. I'll
see those artis, I'll sign thosebooks if they're local in Saint Louis,
and ninety percent of the time I'lldeliver them to your house myself. That's
tells you how busy I am intoday. Well, dude, I think
you deserve that aspect of it.Uh oh, it seems like a bit
(47:40):
of deal in trying to buy yourstoime, because you'll get just going to
raise the price. Yeah, ladiesand gentlemen, the d we just call
them the D. Tom Timmerman,are you there, Tom, I'm here.
I'm waiting for the music to pick. I'll I'm not here, Okay,
there is all right? All rightnow, I'm but before I started,
(48:04):
just uh a brief announcement that thisthis section of the program is brought
to you by funding by the ChubbGroup of insurance Companies and by the National
Endowment for the Arts Chubb BBS noChubb those are people that lend Trump the
money. So yeah, we takethe funding where we can find it.
(48:24):
Okay, so we're the connection isnot great time, I'm going to just
let you talk and we'll see howthat works. Talk about the game.
You know, it was like Iguess any good tie should be. It
was both encouraging and discouraging. Imean they, you know, three goals
clauses back on this game. Uh, you know, they're creating chances and
(48:46):
then they you know, gave upyou know, three goals that I asked
Carnell after the game, I said, Joe reach goals kind of annoying in
their own way, and he said, Joe Leo liked you like you on
flabbergasted. So yeah, so thatwas and as Klaus said, you know
these are learning times, but whenare we going to learn? So you
(49:06):
know, so yeah, you know, you know, they they they can't
keep giving up three goals a game. I mean, that's that's obviously a
non winning moment right there. Whenthey do that. Scoring three goals is
great, uh, and so yeah, it's so defensively, you know,
they had done well the previous twogames and then they you know, come
(49:28):
up with this. I mean actuallyit's try. It's the second game in
a row in which Klaus made orLouse Burke made no say, you know,
against Austin is because there were noshots on goals and this time there
were three shots on goal and theyall went in and one of them,
which was an own goal off ofBurke and the others though, I mean
(49:51):
were you know, not his fault. But yeah, it's you know,
if they can limit those chances abit more and you're not gonna, you
know, with somebody to zero shotson goal every game, but uh yeah,
I mean that's just something they gotto focus on. And you know,
and you know, if Nielsen's outthere, does it happen differently?
I mean it's a you know,constantly changing cast of characters there. And
(50:15):
if they finally get some stability,does that make things better? I don't
know, but yeah, it's ayou know, you like what Klaus is
doing now, I mean, andhe's doing stuff on both ends of the
field. He's all over the placedoing a good job, you know,
and the chances he's creating. Andalso you liked obviously yesterday to see City
(50:37):
get physical and really take it tothe other team and they you know,
they found it away. That's supportingin Kansas City, certainly on the first
two goals where you know, theshoulders came into play very prominently on those.
So that was that was a bigthing. And uh a, Klaus
afterwards say, yeah, I wantto when the valerable you know, goes
(51:00):
challenging for the ball. It wasa duel that I won. So so
I would say Klaus's maybe I madeittier because because Klaus, I mean,
Klaus wasn't playing the ball. Klauswas playing the man and Klaus sent that
guy fly and there was a battleand they were going at him. Uh
but Klaws just kind of ran overand smacked the guy into Tuesday. I
(51:22):
mean, it was it was,it was it was something yeah for me.
For meis comments about the fiscal playwere spot on. It's like,
hey, deal with it and uhmaybe dish some out yourself. Yeah,
I mean that was it. It'slike like if the rest are gonna call
it, then you gotta best theway you're gonna play the game. And
(51:44):
it was clear certainly after Durkins wonthat Alan Chapman was going to let him
go and uh and Klaus certainly tookadvantage of that Hey, Tom, what's
your yes, what's your take onthe whole big fam situation? I'm gonna
say, if the guy's not doingsomething in practice that you want them to
(52:07):
see, this is how you sendmessages, not to just him, but
to the whole team. And soyou know, if he's saying, look,
we Cornell saying look, we wantto this is the way we're going
to play, and we're expecting thisout of everybody. And if you've got
a guy that's not doing it youdon't do anything about it, well,
then what does that say to everybodyelse? So I think, you know,
(52:28):
it's it's kind of you gotta doit. I mean, that's the
way I see it. I mean, it's one of those cases where if
you want to have a good cohesivemessage to the team, you got to
do it, you know. Andif you I mean, if you listen
though to everything. And I don'tknow how many players I've talked to since
this first started, you know,six or eight, and every one of
(52:51):
them has started talking about how importantit is to you know, empty the
tank and go all out, andit's you know, it's it's like they
all had the message, but nowit's like you know, bubbling up to
the services again. They're just talkingabout how much you got to do this,
and we have principles and this iswhat we stand for. It's it's
like in some way everybody's you know, trying to tell Sam about this.
(53:15):
So it's like it's like the differencebetween talking about your principles and living your
principles. Yeah, I think that'sa that's a very very concise and proper
way to say it. Gosh,thank you, that's the nicest thing you've
ever said to me. Well,you know, yeah, I mean I
feel give credit where credit is due. So okay, well, well here
(53:37):
I have another question for you.Then, what do you think is going
on with what you think we're goingto see moving again? Is this about
an injury or I can't. FirstI thought it was because he was injured.
Now is his Is his a nonuh playing injury kind of separation too?
What's going on there? No,wells that Trendelle said that there's a
(54:00):
there's an illness in Lubin's family.Oh okay, Okay, I think that's
it. I mean, he gothurt and then something else happened in the
family. Okay, So it's it'ssome family issues, so we're going to
just leave it alone. I thinkby it don't we agree with that?
Yeah, that would be I thinkthe proper thing to do. And until
(54:22):
unless, if and when ed whowants to talk about it, he'll talk
about it. But yeah, Idon't. We don't need to get into
that. So I don't know.From watching the game last night, I
was thrilled to get for this teamto get a point out of that game.
You know, I mean they're playingin a tough opponent, in a
tough environment, an opponent that whippedup on him at the end of last
(54:43):
year. You know what do youthink? Well, yes, but I
mean in the sixty fifth minute orwhatever, they were up two to one,
and you know, when they couldhave gotten two have gotten three points
out of it, so you know, it's you know, so yes,
I mean it's kind of like theLa Galaxy game where they were minutes away
from getting a uh, you know, from getting three points and then they
(55:07):
give up a ninety first or secondminute goal and and then they only give
one. So you know that's yeah, yes, it was good to get
fun, but three were right therefor them. Uh, you know,
if they had you know, tightenedat that game, and they kind of
you know, they started the secondhalf was okay, and then they kind
(55:28):
of stopped attacking. Yeah, andthey kind of let the game of the
city bring it to them. Andthat's where they got into trump. I
mean, and there's another round caseswhere they had chances earlier on and they've
gotten those goals, and they pickedup one more goal earlier. You know,
they they put it away and theydidn't do that. Hey, Tom,
where's the game? Uh? Nextweek? Next by? By?
(55:50):
Oh? Buy next? Okay,So so what have the don't let a
scrimmage with City two? That shindclosed doors? Probably the City two is
off next week. Okay, Well, well, well we'll have a better
connection probably, Hey, we gottago. Brother, probably won't be I
probably won't be driving on ice seventies. Well you never know with you though,
(56:10):
that's true. That's true. Ijust asked Columbia Tom Timmerman. Ladies
and gentlemen, Tom, what updates? Bye bye? Semi Finally THEFA Cup
Coventry City Neil Manchester United one.Wow. Now the twenty eight minutes Grateful
Dead taking us to the top ofthe I here a friend of the devil's
(56:30):
friend of mine. Well, Ithought that was a personal statement on your
part. Hasn't been in the past, but I'm glad you've cleaned up.
I like to be, you know, open to everyone's opinion, but I
don't always agree with him. How'sthat working out for you? I didn't
vote for Trump? Worked that fine? Wow? Moving right along here here
will be that wraps up the endof the first segment. But please sit
(56:53):
down, Baker, Relax like adeep breath. Don't get excited. We'll
be back. Just gotta go awayfor a couple of minutes and pay some
bills. You're listening to STL UnitedSoccer Sunday coming to you here from the
auspices of the Harry Kiyo Studios atKFN S five ninety the fan in Saint
Louis mode. Don't go anywhere,see in a few first one to say
(57:13):
she got my child, But untilit looks like we sit out and take
my time A friend that never asa friend of mine, and I get
answer. Sweet
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