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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats and kittens. This man right
here claimed to have witnessed, allegedlyan experience a new Clear weapon shut down
at an Air Force base in nineteensixty seven. Let's talk about that in
other incidents and how and why itcould make any sense in this world be

(00:23):
living today. Let's get the episodegoing. Jesus Christ, I'm sorry,
I was running to catch it.I apologize, Ricut, I'm here.
The show has started. Let's talkabout new Clear weapons, electronic interference,
and times where it seems like therewas no alien yet something still happened to

(00:45):
the weapon. I don't know nownow now you make my mother? Who

(01:38):
you mar mother? Who did youremember? Mother? Who remember remba?
Remember mother? We remembermeer s allright, my friends and weirdos, Welcome

(03:45):
back to another episode of Strange recondright here on the bulk field. Thank
you so much for being here.Thank you so much spending time with us.
Everyone in the YouTube chat already here, appreciate it. Remember you can
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because we're kind of locked in placeat certain subscribe limit. Anyways.
Okay, so let's get today's episodegoing. We're talking about Robert Salas again
one more time. Here, here'sthe gentleman. Okay, you can't even
see his picture for some reason.There, let's get that up again one
more time. Robert Salas. Whohas heard? I mean, I know
a lot of people here are veteransof the game, if you will,

(04:26):
But who has heard of Robert Salis? I'm sure you have. Let's try

(04:55):
that again. I don't know what'shappening right now, because the whole thing
just died out on me, rightis this? Jill started laden And gentlemen,
who here has heard of Robert Salisof the famous nineteen sixty seven Millstrom
Air Force Base case. And Isay famous, of course, I mean
famous to the small degree. Ifyou followed, you're not famous as in
like you know a song famous youfollowed. She's quite small, believe or

(05:15):
not. Even though a lot ofpeople believe in certain things, it doesn't
mean any it doesn't mean anything butthe large numbers. Anyways, Robert Salis,
Robert Salus, now Robert Salish.You know, Robert Salis is a
guy that we've come to know.If someone who's appeared on television shows like
Larry King Live and who has dealtwith the with the skeptics as they've tried

(05:41):
to debunk him live on air,Robert Salis is a guy that we come
to know that has kept the ideaalive with others, of course, you
know, with the work of likeRobert Hastings and whatnot, is that UFOs
have come down to Earth, orcome out of the Earth, or come
from under the Earth's ocean, orcome from the future, or come from
they can't tell yet. They've gotit. They don't really have it figured

(06:02):
out, but they the ideas thatUFOs have shown up to nuclear launch sites,
nuclear n I'm sorry, nuclear reactors, to nuclear disasters, and in
this case of Robert Salis in nineteensixty seven, the idea is that UFOs

(06:26):
came down and interfered with ready tolaunch nuclear weapons, put them out of
order ten in a row at onepoint, oscar flight and echo flight.
If I'm not mistaken, I'm tryingto remember from top of my head here,
but it forever cemented the idea thatUFOs, whatever they are, wherever

(06:47):
they come from, they come hereto shut down our best weapons. There's
a nuclear weapon, our best weaponfor its information, the best weapon,

(07:08):
I guess, our high casually producingweapons, and yes, of course a
nuclear bomb. It would be serious, a serious issue here. But you
know, one can argue that themosquito has been more of a terror on
planet Earth than the nuclear weapon.I mean, I know that's weird to
say, but it's it's all rightanyway. So I got off this one.

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So you're familiar with Robert Salas,you can go find him today at
kepsa on Twitter. Obviously that's nothis name. Hold on, what's his
name on Twitter? Here? Letme just pull it up on the X.
I apologize on the X Robert Sales. I'll see if I'm still blocked.
I was blocked for a while.I have no idea why or if
I'm maybe I'm mistaken. Robert Salescan be found on Twitter at kept Cho

(07:56):
kept Chow instead of kept it's keptChow with the cho there. I'll dry
up into the chat there for allpeople that want to go to try to
interact with him. That's Robert Salis, he's on there. He's got some
serious posts. He's all about theUFO game. We've heard for years that
this person that we saw on TV, this former military launch officer, was

(08:16):
working closely with political leaders and contributorsto get the ball rolling and unlock some
doors, get some answers. AreUFOs scouting planet Earth? Are they able
to shut down and stop our bestweapons? But they have to fly in

(08:39):
close range for some reason. Wecan We can do stuff like that with
a satellite, a drone, aballoon, a plane, a bird that
I mean a drone that looks likea bird. We can do it from
the back of a van, amilitary installation, a spaceship. Nope,
the aliens have to do it fromjust outside the gates. Anyways, Sorry,

(09:05):
I apologize. I shouldn't be talkinglike this. I'm trying to get
monetized. I don't know why Ican't monetize. A single video of mine,
even yesterday, could monetize. Ishouldn't be saying anything even slightly controversial,
because then it's going to cause meto be demonetized. If you're familiar
with a story, you will knowthat it goes a little something like this,

(09:33):
I might as well get break itdown if you're not familiar. Here's
how roughly goes. There's a summaryif you will. The Maelstrom Air Force
based UFO incident, which occurred Marchsixteenth, nineteen sixty seven, involved reports
of unidentified aircraft that allegedly affected operationaleffectiveness. Are I should just put operational

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status of the missile systems at thebase. On that day, the first
Lieutenant Robert Salis, the Air Force'snuclear launch control officers stationed at Maelstrom,
received a call from a frightened securityguard reported seeing a UFO flying directly over
OSCAR Flight Control Center at the base. Now you can literally go here,

(10:22):
Roberts Dallas say these words multiple timesthe lectures moufon events TV, really large
platforms back of the day, likeyou know, like I said earlier,
like Larry Kingy. He will actuallytalk through how the guys sound allegedly sounded
when he called. Anyways, wedon't have a lot of information on these
individuals, A lot some of them, some of them, there are some

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a little bit information. Salis immediatelywoke up the first crew commander, first
Attendant Fred Maywald. I can't sayhis name, me, wald, I
don't know. Within minutes of thecall, the missiles started to shut down
one by one. Salas stated thatthe missiles went into no go mode.

(11:05):
That's a quote in, meaning thatthey were disabled and not launchable. The
incident was not an isolated one.Sorry, I'm supposed to be waving my
hands more. Some weirdo named misterBeasts says, I'm supposed to move my
arms everything I say and cut scenesquickly to get more attention. Be more

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like UFO Jesus, he said,As I said, it wasn't the only
one. A week earlier, Marchsixteenth, nineteen sixty seven, UFOs are
reported at the Echo Flight facility,located thirty five miles away from OSCAR Flight,

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where all of its missiles also wentoffline. A classified documentated Mark March
nineteen sixty seven described the incident andexpressed quote grave concern to the headquarters,
the document of size, the needfor in depth analysis to determine the cause
and corrective action. I'd like tostate that this document for a long time

(12:15):
was or not the document specifically,but the idea that there was this thing
was taken was treated urgently somehow supportedthe idea that it was a UFO,
when in fact, we all knowthat anytime, you know, if a
regular weapon system that's in the hand, like a handheld weapon system goes goes
down, you know it's treat usan urgent matter, everything's gonna check.

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You think they're not gonna do thatfor an intercontinental ballistic missile armed with a
nuclear weapon. Sorry, just trying, That's what I'm told. Despite investigations,

(12:58):
the cause of the incident was neverconclusively determined. Some skeptics have raised
questions about the credibility of the witnesses, while others believe it remains in an
unexplained event, an unexplained event linkedto unidentified flying objects. Now that's not
the only debunking, though, Iwould like to stress there that the idea

(13:20):
is oftentimes that you know, theonly debunking of the case was done on
Larry King or other CNN like showsor something where Robert Dallas I think it
was actually Larry King and only oneother on the main platform. But Robert
Salas came on there, and youknow, they tried to discredit him and
say these people aren't scientists, andyadadad YadA and Bill Night came on and

(13:41):
read some technical reports that had alot of information blocked out on it.
But it was blacked out on it, but it was It wasn't the only
thing to discredit someone. I don'ttrust Robert sales face, but that's just
me. But the credibility sect factorof it lies within the fact that,

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like witnesses today, mister Salis neveractually laid his eyes on any UFO at
all. First off, can humansdo such a thing? The answer is
yes, to what degree I don'tknow. But does that mean that if
aliens intelligent enough to travel vast businessof the soul sim survives staining themselves and

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stay invisible to people that have endlessnew sensors every single day and discover you
acute ways to adjust them and makethem even finer, if they can do
it, if we can do it, then I'm sure they can do it.
Can we not? Yes? Andso now that you're familiar with Robert

(15:05):
Salis as a reformer mill, Idon't know if he's retired, I forget.
I know it says retired, Ithink, but it's like retired like
me. That wouldn't be the samething. But I am retired, so
it's you know, Robert Salis is, uh, you know, this launch
officer down on this tube gets acall from a guard security force on the

(15:26):
top to I think it's a securityforce on the top deck, right,
because he's underground in this pod,in this capsule, and he gets a
call there's a UFO at the gate. Now, when I was a kid,
this case was almost always associated witha light in the sky an unknown

(15:48):
distant distance away. As an adult, it seems like every graphic that's ever
shown for and this I'm talking throughthe nineties and everything, all the way
through through two thousands, and youknow, from the nineties till today,
there is this embellishment on the graphicsor the images they use, or the

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you know const you know, theart they use for this case where the
the the UFO is allegedly essentially gatelevel. You know, it's like like
it it looks right outside the gateto the point where someone could shoot it,
walk up to it, touch it. Now, we've read other encounters,
we read plenty of other things,and maybe you've even had your own

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experience, but here's where we crossedthat line where it's like these UFO stories
turn into something very real or somethingyou know, something's interfered. Were to
the point where you can no longerdebate on whether what you know, what
this ambiguous thing was or what itwas doing. Either way, it did
these things that it was. Someone'smaking a claim that could be investigated and

(16:52):
has been investigated thoroughly by multiple people. Because that embellishment, that little thing
that I saw growing up in uthology, I always had this weird, you
know, gut reaction towards this caseas being something I should question anytime something
goes from being like this ambiguous lowinformation zone that's a Mike West term there

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to like, oh no, no, no, no, no. We're
not saying we didn't know it wasUFO. We're saying we're calling it a
UFO because we've never seen such apowerful close image to us. You know,
it was crazy, it was soclose. And that's that wasn't the
story. That was never the story. That that happens with a lot of
things in uthology over the years nowbecause mister Robert Salas didn't actually see the

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thing himself, and he's relaying thestory to production companies through print and probably
you know, over the phone.Maybe I don't know if over I mean,
you're not gonna have primary witnesses orpeople that are considered executive producers temporarily
on on a documentary, go sitwith editors necessarily all the time. But
this guy is talking and it cutsto a scene where there's a massive mothership

(18:08):
style UFO straight out of Independence Day, hovering just outside the gates of this
tiny little air Force base in themiddle of Montana. See, there's the
problem. If it's close, thenyou should be able to provide detail on
what it looked like. And that'snever been the case with this story.

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These stories almost always was it ahelicopter, couldn't be it was hovering,
and then it was like, well, now, because of all of the
graphics, animation, drawings and picturesand movies, we can kind of pretend
that it was just right outside thegates. So there's no way, no
way, it couldn't have been ahelicopter or anything like that at all.
No way, no way, Jose, not a drone either. Drones are

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only five years old at most.Some say drones haven't even been invented yet.
Anyways, moving on, that's obviouslynot true. It's one of the
reasons why I bring that up.Drone, you know, the say that's
stupid statement about drones is because weknow there's a history of electronic interference with

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other nations on just our alleged scientificmissions. They knew better, right,
the Ruskies and the Chinese and whoeverelse is dealing with us no better excuse
me. The American public doesn't whenNASA claims it's launching a scientific mission.
You know, I would say about, so I gotta move my arms around

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a lot and swing around a lot. I would say about you know,
what, what do you think fromwhat we know about history about you know,
ninety four percent of all launches areprobably that when like I've a good
chunk there, maybe ten percent,I don't know, seems to be almost
entirely for intelligence purposes, and it'sbeing launched under the guise of a scientific

(20:00):
mission. And legally speaking, it'snot just that they're they're lying and saying,
oh, they're launching something for scientificpurpose or middlehip whatever. The majority
of the cargo is there, yougo, so you have I shouldn't have
said legally speaking, because I didn'tmean like there's an actual law in there,
but that that that's how it's described. Whatever. The majority of the

(20:22):
cargo is if they have cube SATsand and then they're launching a bunch of
people's names to go on to somesort of thing. They're not what type
of mission is it? Anyways?Okay, so let's go back to what
I'm actually trying to talk about here, because we way off topic here.
There is there is an evolution ofelectronic interference. We've seen it from the

(20:45):
Rooskis, We've seen it from theChinese allegedly. But it's it's simple.
First I started with just communication,they try to scramble communication. Then of
course the evolution of some of thesesystems. What do you get that follows
that, not just scrambling communication,with scrambling control remote controls. We've see
that today with counter us. Youknow, all types of things, and
that there is all types of things, and it would not surprise me in

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the least that these are being workedon as another countermeasure, because let's just
say, at all costs, youcan't counter an IICBM or hypersonic weapon or
something from the Chinese the Russians dueto I don't know, some issue like

(21:34):
sheer overload of weapons or something likethat. You can literally have a secret
operation going on nearby launch sites andtry to disable those things using other methods,
not just kinetic energy, not justexplosives, but there's other ways as
well, disabling communications and all typesof stuff through electronic defensive, electronic counter
measures, or scrambling through electronic warfare. Robert Salas lives in a time where

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those systems that he was operating withwe're basically coming to an end. If
you look at the story close enough, you'll notice that there was an upgrade
of the system right after the event. And it wasn't like they upgraded it
because of the event. They actuallyupgraded it because all of the systems are
being upgraded. That's what happens.You have to upgrade your your most extreme
weapons, most radical weapons on theplanet. Because it was updated, you

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can assume that there was a betterversion of It's evolving software of the day,
not really software, but you know, it's evolving systems. The the
the very idea that it's a perfectrunning system is is obviously false. We
have cases we're going to go intoa little bit that obviously will You'll look

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at it and be like, ohshit, yeah, so why would I
think that a UFOL could do this? If this could happen. We're going
to talk about that in a second. But other than that, he lived
at a time where, you know, there was an under standing that if
other nations are going to be usingthis system, we have to create a
countermeasure that isn't just simply a antiballistic missile. It has to be something

(23:14):
greater. There is always, thereis always an evolution for that, and
we saw that like away, rememberthe Tehran UFO incident, and everyone's like,
nothing can do what this thing wasdoing. And like a year later
there was like there was like threeor four different patents for for you know,
electronic warfare, you know, startingoff where literally you could scramble people's

(23:37):
instruments, scramble communications, all typesof stuff. It recognizes the product in
the system, and it's a tuneto it. It tries to take advantage
of it. I'm not an expert, though. This is a you know,
an evolving story of course, ina process of investigating people in their
claims, but I'll tell you thissystem lives at a time time where that

(24:03):
very thing, an electronic countermeasure,is becoming basically all the rage. We've
covered it here on the show somany times. The late sixties all the
way till obviously today it's still goingon heavily, the explosion in trying to
take advantage of you know, theinvisible warfare, so to speak. But

(24:23):
you know, if you look atthe stories of how the Russians were trying
to screw with early NASA launches andeven earlier than that, like you know,
literally putting boats out in the harbor. Some say there was evidence for
submarines doing it, which would makea lot of sense. But one thing
that's to sure the systems that wereresponsible for scrambling communications and trying to you
know, inflict you know, errorsupon the system, and so in order

(24:45):
for them the malfunction and cause aproblem or crisis, is that the systems
shrunk down. You know what onceyou once be able to do on a
large ship or a submarine, yousurely could do with something smaller today,
which we see with a lot ofelectronic counter measures on drones. And so
I'm wondering because a lot of thingswe see today of the wave gap that

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thirty years past when they originated,were they forty years passed when they originated?
Were they working on something a prototype, something that they didn't fear could
never they it would never actually launcha weapon, it would simply interfere.
I mean, is it possible.I think that's where where a lot of
our research should focus because it's likelythat I don't know if it's more likely,

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because I don't know if aliens exist, but it's likely that this would
fall into one of those cases thatwe should look at closely and say,
hey, it's nineteen sixty seven,we're talking about well into you know,
the the this the cold space Race, where so many secret things were going

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on in order to interfere with oneanother and h and everyone knew that the
Russians in the United States were likeneck and neck with so many different systems,
but the United States excelled in afew other areas, and I believe
this is one of them. Andthough I would it would make more sense
to try this on an adversarial technology, I do wonder if if they tested

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it in you know, in ona training range, in a lab everywhere
else multiple times, it made itsuccessful, and they want to test it
in the real world to see thereaction of a launch crew and the security
forces above ground. In my mind, in my heart, which one is

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more dramatic of a of a ofa belief system or like to believe in.
I guess that's the whatever word is, like the idea that aliens came
here and went to a missile thathumans think, is this my God instrument
that can just shut down entire areasof the world, end thousands of lives
instantly. Or the United States wasworried that, you know, this eventual

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process would be met by adversaries,and they had to compete by creating countermeasures
that didn't just fly real fast.You know, the the there has to
be more than one countermeasure. Thathas to be more than one operating procedure.
There has to be more than oneway to detect a tour and UH
and eliminate you know, whatever protectedher. That's the same thing, but

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it's it's likely that it exists thattime. All right, let's move on
here real quick, because I needto talk to you quickly about Hey,
moonlitch, do you believe that itwas the Canadians. I would have my
doubts because the North American the NorthAmerican Missile Alliance there or whatever it is

(28:06):
UH that would eventually come out inthe seventies was already kind of being hush
hush worked on to some degree.I mean, I know that there was
a difference, and then we weren'tallowed to put missiles up there for a
long time, but we had Alaskaand in land Alaska facing to the northeast.

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You know, the Earth is round, the Soviets go over, not
around, but the you know,I have my doubts the Canadians would have
done it, because it didn't theythey only I mean Canadian Russian Canadian Soviet
relations didn't seem like it was reallythat great. Like you know, if
you look back and look at it, there was reasons for people like Paul
Hallier to side with the CIA instantlywhen he came around. I'll look into

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it more lych I will, butI I mean, I just like the
the evolution of the of the storyof the Russians in the United States with
their long range weapons. I wonderif that has something to do it.
It's possible, I mean that theremight have even been rogue people involved.
I mean, let's be fair.These systems weren't extremely These systems weren't like

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they were complicated obviously. That's whyI took a ton of scientists and engineers
to produce them. But it seemsthat if you work in that sector and
you understood, it doesn't really seemlike it would have been impossible in those
days to to do a lot ofthings that interfered with systems that relied on

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a lot of connectivity and mechanisms thatthey would you know, they would trip
surges. Like when you look atthe report of the analysis on what actually
happened to the in the event ofwhat allegedly took place to the missile,
it doesn't really paint a picture ofaliens. It paints a picture that something
was malfunctioning in the launch sequence.I'm talking about the Russia one. Sorry,

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I gotta stop here. Sorry,I distract myself by looking at the
chat. Let's go back. Wegotta go back, my friends. Let's
do up some talking points real quickwith the mails from case so you don't
forget. March sixth, nineteen sixtyseven, Okay Air Base, Air Force
Base UFOs blah blah blah. OscarFlight Control Center First Attendant Robert Salas in

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Duclear launch control officer received a callabout UFO sightings, but shortly after the
missiles began shutting down, rendering theminoperable number two Echo flight a week earlier
March sixteenth, nineteen sixty seven,which we're referring to earlier and thank you
who mentioned it from metabunk. UFOswere reported near the Echo Flight facility.
We're all missiles were also went offlineit He classified document emphasized the gravity of

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the incident in the need for analysis. Again, the need for analysis does
not equal it was aliens. Andas you know, the term UFO or
UAP can be awfully manipulated because itis again just an acronym or initialism.

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Investigating investigation findings, Various potential causes, including electrical systems, cable connections,
and external signals all had something todo with it. External signals being a
key feature. Upgrades known as forcemod EMP modifications were added. Now I

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don't minding anything. Of course,there are also the natural explanation, but
I'm not gonna We'll get into thatafter sometime, I'm sure to classified document
emphasize the gravity of the incident,of the need for analysis, investigating finding,
blah blah blah. There we go. You found. Forced EMP modifications
were installed to prevent the system frombeing tripped up again from some sort of
external signals. Sala's perspective. CaptainRobert Salas believes the incident was a message

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as the UFOs did not cause physicalharm, but demonstrated the potential vulnerability of
nuclear weapons. Where were they inWorld War Two when we're getting better at

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making these weapons alien sate the Japanese. That's messed up critics perspective. Some
critics raised questions about the National PressClub meeting where committee members were compensate.

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It potentially affected the credibility of thetestimonies being compensated. Well, we should
talk about that. I guess.Subsequent sightings, of course, are always
involved with these cases. They're atit then, before and after to make
it, you know, to saythat there was something going on there.
Benjamin, I'm sorry. There weresubsequent UFO sightings near military facilities were nuclear

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weapons, indicating a pattern of interestin such installations. We even had Terry
Lovelace on the show. Do youremember Terry Lovelace who claimed he's claimed a
lot of stuff, but he hasclaimed excuse me, he did claim that
he worked, you know, ata base where a few launch silos I

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believe he said were visited by likea black diamond shape flying thing, not
to his black Triangle story, butit's the other story. So we've had
other people on here claimed the same, you know, the same plan that's
like here. Benjamin Radford questions whyextraterrestrial intelligence, if concerned about nuclear weapons,

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did not intervene with the Tommy bombingand Roshima and Nagasaki. That's what
I just said. I'd also saythat our nuclear weapons, though some are
quite impressive. I guess you couldsay that's the thing impressive, right,
But the problem is that if again, little pesky humans just using gravity the

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way things fly, We've never justplucked anything up and moved it around without
having to follow the observed laws ofthe universe we've noticed so far. How
is it that we can move largerocks around the Solar System, including if
we wanted to calculate and move onright into kill us all? Why would
nukes be impressive? If couldn't aliensjust do that? Couldn't aliens just guide

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and rock into us that moves andis bigger and has a larger kinetic payload
than all of the weapons on planetEarth combined. I mean, it just
seems like an empirical thing, likewe we it's our It's typical though here
we we could we have these amazingweapons and UFOs are gonna come down here

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and shut them down as a showof force. I'm sure you can even
see or hear Richard Dolan's face insome shadowy background and the OTF interview on
a on a UFO show or somethingwhere they're like, you know, why
why would they I'll give you topthree reasons why. It's uh, it's
it's it's pretty interesting stuff. ButI don't know if i'd actually put too

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much weight into that, because Idon't think a nuclear weapon would be are
It's so hard to say, becauseit's just ridiculous to assume so many factors
without having any information, right,and just if they're chasing biosignatures and tech
signatures, maybe there's something valuable therethat they have to look at. Maybe

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they have to go that they seenuclear radiation, they see other stuff.
We've heard of other cases including bentWaters, RAF bent Water and ret Rendelsham
where you know, allegedly, youknow, UFO showed up to do the
same thing. But we have toalso keep in mind that that case actually
falls under possible Russian interference as well. In the minds of many researchers.

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There are people out there if youlook hard enough, and you really don't,
actually you don't. Actually you don'thave to look hard enough, you
just look. There are individuals thathave investigated the Rundelsham case, not as
a UFO case whatsoever, but asan espionage case. In fact there you
know, there are people that haveeven tried to make the link between.
If you've read John Burrow's book,you have you have a connection, or

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you have you know, an attemptto make a connection there for people to
see. But others from the militarybeat in an old Cold Wars or have
already investigated attempts for the Ruskies toyou know, use submarines and other means
to AFFECTU you know, weapons systemsand observations systems and communication systems rather in

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the UK. And it would youknow, wouldn't that, of course be
one of the major things that happens. I'm not saying Rundelsham is that,
in fact, it doesn't explain otherpeople have had sightings there, which I
do believe some of their sightings didn'tthey didn't say anything too fantastical enough,
and they said it before these otherindividuals sometimes, so it's like, you

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know, I'm not putting much weightinto the idea that the Russians are flying
around some some globular light around orwhatever. But I also recognize there's a
lot of problems with the case,a lot of MISSI identifications, and it
was happening again at a time andat a place that would be valuable to
spying. At this point, Ishould probably stand up and do it days

(38:00):
take my shirt off, because Ineed to get attention back. The analytics
are showing attention is dropped off significantly. Anyways, the show sucks, ladies
and gents. I'm trying to growthe show. I can't do it that
this is This is a lecture nuancedtype of show. We are a defense
beat show. We talk about thesethings in the context of the you know

(38:22):
what type of realities we face whenwe address them. It is not going
to be the most popular. Iknow that I'm not looking to win all
hearts and minds on the matter,but I am looking to get over the
number we hit a year ago.What is happening every time we go over
we drop down? I know theshow it just features a single person waving
his arms around talking. But Isee a lot of you out there and

(38:42):
many of the people I like,you know, quoting or using or the
stuff that we dig up here together. So do me a massive favor,
help share the show. Its spreadit around out there, because we used
to have a hell of a lotmore people on a Sunday morning than this
boy. I appreciate everyone see rightnow though, thank you very much.
Moon. Uh. You know,the the documentation of the of the documentation

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on the paperwork shows a external signalEMP like thing, possible natural explanation as
well. We got to remember thereare also natural things that cause stuff like
that to happen all the time.Radios and stuff like that get knocked out
at a sync and out of whackand a shut offline for for minutes and

(39:29):
hours on end all the time.And the units are around the world still
today. So it's it's it wouldn'tI don't know. I mean, I
was talking to Jan Aldrich as anAldrich Channel a few you know, a
couple of years ago almost now andhere a year ago almost now, and

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he and he talked about a coupleof cases that were that you know,
affected radio communications and things like that, and you know, they weren't sure
you because people have reported a UFOthat the UFO had something to do with
it, or is meteorological meteorological ornatural because there's kind of the same.
Sometimes they they're so similar that howdo you know? And uh? Or

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they come together or they report atthe same time. So either it's always
lucky, or the UFO is utilizingsome very cosmic natural things that are happening,
or its weapons systems look just likeyou know, it leaves the effects
it has, It has an effecton products, on technology, just like

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very natural things. And they've youknow, that wouldn't be crazy where we
at? Why don't we jump overto a case not in the not too
distant future from the Robert Salis MaelstromUFO case. We went from nineteen sixty
seven, let's jump to nineteen eighty. All my friends out there who are

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watching the show, who are boredout of their mind, I'm sorry,
I'm one boring son of a gun. Let's look real quick together. Let's
look together here at the Titan Mksix two, the Titan Mk six two

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missile. This, my friends andweirdos, is the Titan MK six The
Titan two MK six missile in itslaunch silo. Here's some things about this

(41:46):
missile that you should know. It'ssystems that launch it are only slightly better.
I mean, they're definitely improved uponsince the Robert Salast days, but
they're really not in an essence thatdifferent. Of course, there is some
modern additions added to them, includingsoftware and things like that, but they

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can suffer from the same issues.They can suffer from the same problems,
and they're certainly not perfect. Inthis case, we're not talking about electronic
warfare possible electronic warfare. We're talkingabout just systems malfunctioning on their own.
So do me a massive favor stickingthere one second here, record, we're
gonna talk about this real quick.Here we're gonna talk about the Titan to

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MK six missile malfunction. Hold onone second, Sorry, I had just
dropped it. My show notes hereare gonna go way up. Okay.
The Namaskus tightened missile explosion case whereit simply exploded in its tube. That

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sounds like something you probably wouldn't knowabout, right, A large weapons system
just blows up in its tube.Let's give you a little background on it
real quick. The Damascus tighten missileexplosion aka called the Damascus accident. Excuse
me. The Damascus accident was anineteen eighty US nuclear weapons incident involving the
Titan two intercontinental ballistic missile. Theincident occurred on September eighteenth and nineteenth,

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nineteen eighty at Missile Complex three sevenfour seven in rural Arkansas, when a
US Air Force LGM twenty five Ctightened two ICBMMK six missile with the nine
megaton W fifty three nuclear warhead experiencea liquid fuel explosion inside its own silo.
The incident began with a fuel leakat six thirty pm on September eighteenth

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and culminated with an explosion at aroundthree am on September nine, ejecting the
warhead from its silo. Literally fromits silo, The warhead landed a short
distance away no radioactivity. No radioactivematerial was lost or recorded on the scene.
Allegedly, the launch complex the threeseven four seven was located at Bradley

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Township, Van Buren County Farmland,just three point three miles away the Van
Buren Boys five point three kilometers ifyou're from the Shire nne of Damascus,
and approximately fifty miles eighty kilometers northof Little Rock, Arkansas. The Strategic
Air Command Facility at Little Arc,Arkansas Base was one of the eighteen silos

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in the command of the three Oeighth Strategic Missile Wing three eighth STRATEGI missile
win goes Yes, it's three eightSMW, specifically one of the nine silos
from the three hundred and seventy fourthStrategic Missile Squadron at the time of the
explosion. These missiles aren't exactly perfect. The systems on board them are not

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exactly perfect. Remember what I saidand tried to explain about and you probably
already know this. I'm no,you know, I'm not trying to explain
talk to you like you're a baby. But the reason why your iPhone,
your computer, you're operating system,droid or whatever works so well, your
car works so well, is becauseit has the quality assurance of tens of

(45:23):
thousands of customers real time every day, and it's done so by accidentally bumping
into errors. They call them bugs. Those bugs are then sent in to
people that provide upgrades to the software. The drivers, even recalls to fix
the hardware or the parts inside thevehicle or the computer or the weapon or

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the whatever. You don't get that. With nuclear weapons. You get proof
of concept, you get you getsuccessful engines, boosters, tests, all
that stuff. You get repeated testsat the point of the phase where it's
all successful, good to go there, repeated so many times they're good to

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go, sled test galore, allthat stuff, boom boom boom, all
the tests you want, mock launches, no warheads, over and over and
over again. You know, Iknow what I saw, phil clastic and
kiss my peep. You know,you get all that and then you get
your your system here. But that'snot the same thing as millions of people
touching the product being like I foundan error. So there is simply I

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guess you could say more errors perwhatever. I don't know, pound foot
whatever. And you are all militaryweapons systems, all military equipment suffers stuff
like that that. A lot ofthe stuff is built tough, like it
can take a beating, but thesoftware is so subpar. The hardware is

(46:55):
so subpar. It's like you shouldhave just bought like Dell computers and put
like a hardcase on them or somethinglike, what the hell is this is
a shit? But it's made independently, uniquely and obviously radically secure for military
purposes, and who the hell elseis going to need large nuclear weapons?

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So the military has them in thisfew of them, and because there's a
few of them, they're hard tokeep in perfect working order, or they're
hard to manufacture and perfect working order. I've already gone down a list of
major events in security stuff and healthhazards stuff that have happened at nuclear reactors
or national labs. Just by thescientists alone. There is literally some of

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the poorest conditions for some of theseweapons systems, what to do when we're
trying to get rid of them andall types of stuff. They're not perfect.
So let's give you a little backupand lead up to the incident.
I don't know. Six thirty pmon Thursday September eighteenth, nineteen eighty two
airmen from the Propellant Transfer System PTSteam, we're checking the pressure on the

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SIDIS or tank of the US AirForce Tighten two missile at Little Rock over
a over the Air Force base.I'm sorry, over Little Rocks Air Force
Base, Launch Complex three seven fourDash seven. One of the workers,
Airman David P. Powell, hadbrought a ratchet wrench three feet long weighing
twenty five pounds into the silo insteadof a torque wrench. I mean,

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if you had to use a torquewrench on like a sensitive bolt on your
freaking Harley Davidson, you'd be afraidto use a regular wrench because of it.
This guy's using a regular wrench onsomething. You need a torque wrench
that you can measure. The Newtontons On is like amateur hour scary.

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The newly may Day of the AirForce. Regulations made him say he had
to take a torque wrench, buthe didn't. He had realized he brought
the wrong wrench, so we choseto continue rather than turn back. The
eight pound three point six kilogram socketfell off the ratchet and dropped approximately eighty
feet before bouncing off a thrust mountand piercing the missile skin over the first

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stage fuel tank. Wow speed ofgravity pierced the tank, causing it to
leak a cloud of arozine fifty fuel. Arozine fifty is a hyper garlic hypergarlic

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propellant is a rocket propellant combination usedin rocket engine whose components spontaneously ignite when
they come in contact with each otherwith a titan two oxidizers dinatrin text text
texidide I can't talk such that theyspontaneously ignite upon contact with each other.
The nitrogen textidide is is kept ina second tank and the rocket first stage

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directly above the fuel tank and belowthe second stage, and it's nine megaton
in W fifty three nuclear warhead.Eventually, the missile combat crew and the
PTS team evacuated launch center. We'remilitary civilian response teams arrived to tackle the
hazardous situation. Lieutenant General Lloyd R. Leave It Junior, the Vice commander

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of the Strategic Air Command, commanderthat the commanded the effort to save the
launch complex. There was concern forpossible collapse of the newly now empty first
stage fuel tank, which could causethe rest of the eighth story missile to
fail and rupture. Oh, becauseit was sitting on an empty tank.
Now, holy shit, I couldn'ttake the weight of it alone, though.

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That seems weird. Alive on theoxid eyes at a contact the fuel
that's already filling up to silo.As I just said, the hypergolic fuel.
If they mixed, they're going toexplode. Let's talk about the explosion.
Early in the morning on Friday,September nineteenth, the two man PTST
Investigation PTS Investigation team, consisting ofSenior Airman David Lee Livingston and Sergeant Jeff

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K. Kennedy, entered the silo. Because their vapor detectors indicated an explosive
atmosphere, the two were ordered toevacuate. The team was then ordered to
re enter the silod to turn onthe exhaust fan. Limits did re enter
the silod to carry out the order, and shortly thereafter, at about three
am, the hypergolic fuel exploded,likely due to the arcing in the exhaust

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fan once he turned it on.The electricity. The initial explosion catapulted the
seven hundred forty tons silo door awayfrom the silo and ejected the second stage
and warhead. Once clear of thesilo, the second stage exploded. The

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W fifty three Thermo nuclear warhead landedat about one hundred feet only thirty meters
from the launch complex entry gate.It's safely. Its safety features prevented any
loss of radioactive material or nuclear detonation. Livingston died at the hospital and twenty
one others in the immediate vicinity ofthe blasts sustained various injury injuries. Kennedy

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struggled with respiratory issues from inhaling oxidizer, but survived. Livingston was promoted a
staff sergeant after his death. Theentire missile launched complex was destroyed at daybreak.
The Air Force retrieved the warhead,which was returned to the Pantech's weapons
assembly plant reuse recycle. The launchcomplex was never repaired. Pieces of debris

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were taken away from the four hundredacres surrounding the facility, and the site
was buried under amount of gravel,soil, and small concrete debris. The
land is now under private ownership.The site was listed on the National Registry
of Historic Places on February two thousand. Kennedy, initially praised as a hero,
later received an official letter of reprimandfor his first entry into the complex,

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as it later transpired that he haddisregarded in order to stay away.
There's a book A hold on.This is sourced from Hero at the Where
the hell was that Hero at theWhat is it? A Washington Post article

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from February twelfth, nineteen eighty one. The airman who twice went down to
take readings in vapor filled tightened twomissile complex near Arkansas last September, almost
died from his injuries when exploded duringhis second trip. Has been reprimanded by
the Air Force, according he didn'tdie because the article I just read said
he died. Sartain Jeffrey K.Kennedy, who had been considered one of

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the heroes of the accident, wasgiven an official letter of reprimand last month.
Sources said this isn't September twelfth ofnineteen eighty one for the first entry,
which he did on his own disregardand order stay out of the complex.
In that effort, just three hoursafter the fuel leak began, Kennedy,
wearing only a gas mass, wentdown an escape hatch into the underground

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Titan launched control center, which hadbeen evacuated by crew. Kennedy emerged unharmed
within a few minutes and brought backvaluable readings of gauges that measured pressures in
the silo. Kennedy's second entry,five hours later took place when he and
his partner, Senior Airman David L. Livingston, were ordered into the complex
through the main entry by Lieutenant GeneralLloyd Leavitt Junior, a vice commander of

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the Strigic Air Command, who wantedadditional vapor measurements. Given those vapor He's
got acacia the vapors. The explosionoccurred just as the pair had come back
to the surface after finding unsafe vaporlevels inside the complex. Livingston died the
next day from very I guess Iwas talking about lion. Livingston died the

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next day from vapors inhaled after theblast, and twenty other amin were injured,
several permanently injured. Kennedy's leg wasbroken and it received numerous wounds,
flying chunks of cement and hailed aheavy dose of poisonous vapors when the blast
tour off his safety suit helmet especially. I guess he was especially lucky because

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it literally tore off like a hugechunk of concrete, flew right past some
ripptus whole suit of Sources said hemay have suffered permanent head and other injuries
from the accident. Kennedy now iswaiting Air Force examination that could lead to
a medical discharge. This is allthe way back then, but as you
see a case where aliens could haveshown up, no The point I'm trying

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to make here, people is isthat these nuclear weapons, these long launch
sites are not perfect. They havevulnerabilities, decay, a bird in the
silo, shitting on something, empother, strange invisible weapons. They're the

(56:39):
people that work in them, espionage. You know, there's a list of
things that you know that you know, just the fact that they don't get
used the way that a regular gungets used, So they're never gonna be
as perfect. Like even today,there is an estimate that if all weapons
have to be launched as a deterrentor whatever, that there is a number
of percentages that are expected to thatthat might possibly not work properly. Where

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are they gonna land, Where arethey going? What's gonna happen to them?
I'd like it if we didn't haveanother incident like this back in nineteen
eighty folks. I really appreciate yourtime. Do me a massive favorite,
helped share strange recon If you'd liketo support the show After the show's over,

(57:25):
go click the show notes. Readabout the incidents yourself, get to
know, get to familiarize, andhave it in your little arsenal, your
economy of stuff you can refer towhen people say and use these old tropes
and things that these cases mostly reston. Do you think that these weapons
systems are just gonna go down ontheir own? Do you think these systems

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are just they got these flaws,they're just gonna shut down and blow up.
Well, yeah, they do,just blow up on their own because
one of the people drop the freakingsocket on it. This this is just
one case. I wanted to giveyou one example because I don't want to
bore the death that eat today.Today, I'm gonna I'm gonna get I'm
gonna go soon. But this isjust one simple incident. There are many

(58:13):
others. There's everything from interference ofNASA missions, which we've covered, from
Russians, from submarines and boats outin the southern Northern Atlantic and they're all.
There's weapons systems malfunctioning on their own. There's incidents like broken arrows.
There's incidents like Robert Salis's and fromthe Maelstrom UFO case, the Malstrom UFOL

(58:34):
case in nineteen sixty seven, andthere's also things like this Titan to incident,
the Damascus incident happened, and manymany others, and it just goes
to show you that these are notperfect systems. Now there is also the
attacks that mister Salis has received afterwards. You know, I don't agree with
a lot of the things that peoplesay and their criticisms of him of this

(58:58):
event, but I will agree withcertain critics that would suggest that this does
seem to be nothing more than aninfluence campaigned by mister Sallis, at least
to suggest in others, because it'snot just him. Of course, we

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have like people like Robert Hastings whowrote about it for years and years and
years, and you know a lotof other people did as well, that
that that our best weapons that couldbe used to defend ourselves if we were
like invaded by you know, mothershipsof aliens could be shut down like this.

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The incidents could at least be investigated, showing that there are flaws.
They need to be upgraded, maybeeven larger budgets and better systems, less
missiles, so more effective ones.If we're gonna have less ones, we're
gonna have to have more effective ones, faster, bigger, hard to shoot

(01:00:00):
down. You know, to somedegree, it almost feels as if his
entire life's mission after this incident,you know, when he made it popular.
Is to just sit there and saythat, you know, he thinks

(01:00:21):
it's aliens, of course, Butto say UFOs showed up and shut down
our best weapons, and we havenothing we could do to stop or event
or whatever. We're weak compared.There's nothing we can do. I mean
that that seems a bit strange tome, especially since Kepsa constantly said that
I was like helping support the militaryindustrial complex all time. But I was
like, dude, I'm not sayingKepsa is actually Robert Salas, but ladies

(01:00:47):
and gentlemen, boys and girls,I'm gonna get out of here. I
don't think I gave you too muchinformation that board the living poop out of
you today, but we're at thathour mark. I'm gonna try to make
the show more digestible for YouTube peopleand whatever. I just don't understand what's
happening here. I didn't swear Ididn't do anything, but I can guarantee

(01:01:07):
you this video will be demonetized andI don't know what's going on. I
don't know what's happening. I'm notplaying. I said no jokes that could
be confused by really, you know, less aware people or whatever. As
something you know, controversial and tomake some dumb norm joke. Either I
did nothing and this video is goingto be demonetized, so either I need

(01:01:28):
your help sharing the show to getmore people in here to make things change,
or something like because it's something's broken. I don't know what's happening.
I'm demonetized every video and I cannotget over twelve hundred subscribers, and whenever
I do get over problem subscribers,it will go down by like thirty the
next day. So what is that? What the f is going on?
Anyways, Ladies and Jens, boysand girls. That was the mails from

(01:01:50):
UFOL case. I don't think UFOsdid it. I think that was interference
in some sort of entity, otheractor on the planet that we already know
and could count on it has alreadybeen doing stuff like that. Who we
already were messing with their sky,you know, their attempts to you know,
beat us to space that we alreadyunderstood at this point that that there
there is an upcoming race going tohappen where all things are looking like,

(01:02:15):
you know, if we want toreally start putting stuff in space, we
got to do it in the publiceye. We got to do it by
way of scientific endeavor and discovery anduh and so a lot of things change
after, but it was all likehe he exists in this time that I
like to you know, it seemsto me if you look at like spy

(01:02:36):
stories and stuff, that seemed tobe like the explosion of when we're gonna
need fancy new gizmos and gadgets,uh to possibly deter launches and things like
that from right at the launch siteor right within you know, uh,
you know, anyways, And Ican't ramble on about this anymore. I

(01:02:59):
don't. I'm not sure if Ibelieve what happened, but I'm open to
it. I'm open to the ideathat UFOs came here and just sniffing around
and was like, they got,what's this radiation over here? And they
came and just looked at it,misidentifying it entirely as a weapon. I
don't know. Maybe maybe they did. I don't care, ladies and gents,
I gotta go, but I appreciateyou spending time with me this morning

(01:03:19):
on Sunday, the Sunday weekend update. Candom you do me a massive favor
hit that licup subscribe helps support theshow. If you can, we need
your help paying the bills around here. I'm here every day for you nearly
and trying to figure out what thehell is going on. Like the show
just won't get over a number ofsubs anymore. Like it's so strange.
We rushed to twelve hundred and thenit just locked there and never game.
Whatever it's we need your help.Either that or I'm creating a new channel,

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Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, cats, getting the puchas of
pump up. Is I gonna getout and doing a massive favorite that.
Like subscribe, give yourself a patof the back and click the show notes,
take an easy, peace and love. Robert Salace. If you're out
there, I'd love to interview you. Hey, look for future guests coming
on the show, like Lord Ludacriscoming up in the next few weeks.
We're gonna talk our next couple ofweeks, right talking about some aircraft.

(01:04:09):
He's gonna give you a breakdown onsome super awesome aviation breakthroughs by the United
States and others around the world.We're gonna have Jess back on to talk
about some interesting stuff with mister DavidGrush. The Congress, the IG investigation
and things like that and disclosure.We're gonna have Steve back on. I
hope to talk about some pretty interestingstuff when it comes to the historical record

(01:04:31):
and where we can see some ofthis stuff originate. Some of these common
things today originate with a neufology.And of course we're gonna get We'll have
on the end of October a documentaryfilmmaker investigator read Panda Kuala to talk about

(01:04:55):
their film. They produced, UFOsand Science. That's a three hour long
documentary. Watched it a couple oftimes so far. We'll talk about that.
It'll be a guest maybe you know, don't. I don't think he's
gonna come on, but maybe KevinRandall will come on. Kevin Randall was
gonna come on, but I alreadypissed him off. I didn't mean to.
Sorry, mister Randall. I don'tmean to. I didn't mean to

(01:05:17):
piss you off already, Ladies andgentlemen, boys and girls. I gotta
get out of here. GI mea favor. Do your side, do
your part, I'll do mine.Take it easy, peace and love.
I'm out pause. I forgot tomention Dorothy Hawkins, thank you very much
for sending me that letter in thatpicture of your neighbor who decided to start

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doing the push ups and squats duringthe break. Hey, I want to
say this to you to everyone elseout there, I don't care if you're
seven hundred pounds you can barely move. I don't care if you, like
myself who oftentimes needs help moving around, you can put in a little effort
to make yourself better to day,and you can be proud of yourself or
doing it, even if it's liftinga leg, even if it's bending an

(01:06:03):
arm, even if it's getting aslight slight sweat on your brow and it's
not something you normally do. Anyonecan get up and go shuffle around a
little bit and just get a littlebit of a heart rate, a heart
rate going. Uh And and ifyou can't get the heart rate going because
there's a medical condition, I apologize. But it always makes me happy whenever
I get contact from someone who's talkingabout that. Just something as simple as

(01:06:24):
they started doing the push ups ofsquats during the break or started exercising,
it means that you made it tothe break. I really appreciate it.
Thank you so much. Piece oflove. Everyone keep it you know,
stay, stay good to one another. Please be good to one another.
I'll be back. Obber you remembermother, Remember mother, remember mob,

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brilliant move during closing arguments, Simpsonattorney Johnny Cochrane put on the nick cap.
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