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Ladies and gents, boys and girls, cats and kittens and poochs and bound
puppies. Welcome back to another episodeof Strange Recon right here on YouTube.
On today's episode, my friends,we're going into some legends and myths that
make up myths that make up thefolklore of some of our Native American cultures

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that live right here in the UnitedStates. We're talking about the natives of
the Pacific Northwest Plains west of MountRainier. Stick around recon. Just just

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just just just just just just justoh oh a teapot this bias lot by

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this ball lo debut teapot. It'sbalias yu tep this as oh oh my

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my, no me sad Chad,it's fall em swat chap. I talk

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this fall flat chat, this callflat chat. This oh why he oh

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yo ho we recon. I spentmany years in my life living in the

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Pacific Northwest. I came to domany interesting jobs when I was out there,
when, of course, you know, I was in the military,
but others I worked on the water, I worked for companies in the woods,
and I worked alongside of a lotof the first people of this country.
Now I didn't get to hear verymany legends, myths, stories,
or you know, anything like thatat all from these guys. Most time

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it was just you know, theirexperiences during sweats and traditions that they are
actually interested in. But during mytime off sometimes during these jobs, I
would watch channels on television in thePiollop area, the ordering area, you
know, around the Mountain of Iyaof Rainier, and I would get to

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see, like all these interesting storiesturned into are retold in a way that
can get like the youth of theNasquali culture and surrounding tribal you know,
contributors to Mount Rainier into their oldways and into their old lessons learned it
just like Eastern or just like otherWestern folklore and legend. A lot of

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these stories take root in something thatactually happened, but of course their explanation
of it, you know, wasentirely unique to them and their culture interpretation
and whatnot. But it's Folklore Friday, So as always we're going to go
into some sort of As always asthe last couple of months, we're going
to go into something that that Ifeel is still interesting for multiple ways.

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One because geology, volcanism and abunch of other things have proven, just
like you know, ourchaelogy and underanthropology, that some myths, legends and
things that make up folklore actually haveorigins in something real that happened, and

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of course that there's like some sortof moral, you know, what's the
moral of the story type of thing. There's something there. Of course,
you have to put yourself in thetime of the people that live there,
so their culture is not our own. It's it's very it's like the opposite
of of what like English or WesternEuropean culture might have been. If that's
what you're you know, where yourpeople come from. But there is there's

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some interesting stuff though their lines.I find it pretty interesting. But before
we began, at least let megive you the names of the tribes we're
talking about. Now, for allyou super woke people out there, I
know you hate that term. I'mnot trying to be in selting, but
you got to understand that these peoplestill use the term Indian themselves. It's
on signs everywhere. It's above theentryway to a lot of reservations, to

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places in the forest that are youknow, were originally there's before like Fort
Lewis, you know, right upstole the land or something or whatever else
was going on at the time.Stevens back in the day, in the
nineteen or in the eighteen fifties,was it the I think it was eighteen
fifties when he started kicking the disqualityout like like something like I think it
was six hundred thousand acres more thanthat. I can't recall exactly what he

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originally stole. But either way,so don't be offended or don't try to
think you gotta get on you,you know, get on your white horse
and your white armor and go defendsomeone when you haven't yourself a clue of
what you're talking about. I'm notsaying you should go say you call whatever
people. I'm just this is thename they go by, listed on their
website, on their websites and whatnot. Last time I said this, I

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remember, I got like freaking Idon't know who the else said it,
but it was like it was like, want't you to talk about something that
you know, white man? Quitcalling us Indians. It's like what I
lived there for over a decade ofmy life and I work with these people
all the time, and they themselvesare the ones that have that name on

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like all the signs everywhere in theline. Mean, if they don't if
some people, some first people don'tlike that name, then that's that's that's
their tribe or their belief or whatever. So I'm just going off the names
here. So guy didn't relax alittle bit. But today we're gonna be
talking about like a general amalgamate.Uh, actually I shouldn't say that.
We're gonna be talking about a fewstories from some of these Indian tribes like

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the Cowlitz Indian Tribe, the MuckleshootIndian Tribe, and the Squality Indian Tribe,
Pullip tribe of Indians, the SaquinIsland tribe, and the Confederation Tribe
band of Indians in Theacumenation. Bythe way, the most beautiful land I've
ever seen in my entire life,all the way from Yakima and the Accumination
all the way over. It literallyis the most beautiful land in all parts
of it offer up something really uniqueand beautiful. And though the tragic events

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that led these people to live ina little isolated, hard to grow,
hard to hunt places, and hardto live places, you know, it's
just it's the land is You cantell why of course, no people would
want to give this place up ortheir or their traditions up, because it
is like it is. If you'venever spent any time in the Pacific Northwest

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of the United States, I highlysuggest you go see it before another laharror
wipes away someplace that was once beautiful. So it's anyways, let's move on
here, let's get the show going. But when we get back here,
we're going to we're going to chatabout a couple of stories of a great
bear, since it finds itself basicallyall the way from northern Utah all the

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way up to northern Alaska. Firstpeople's spoke about great bear myths and traditions,
and there's morals for those stories.So here in Folklore Friday on Strange
Recon, we're gonna be chatting aboutit. Let's get it on recon.
Did I already hit this? Idon't even know. Did already play the
intro music? I think I did? Did I I don't know. I
had to get up and run tothe other room and put some stuff together.

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Let's just get it on, andI don't know. I won't hit
the music anyways. If I hearddid I'm an idiot? Can I ride
a horse? Someone says, Butbefore I start here, I apologize.
I'm already getting Erco's here. Annieand Bob Marley, Bobby Broadway, Good

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morning, Lord Ludacris. Thank you, Lord Ludacros coming support the show,
Yesterdady threw cash app. I reallyappreciate that. Rene Cruz, Good morning.
I haven't seen you in a while. Good to see you, Chris
Mo. What's up, dude?What was going on? Bill Redden first
in the chat today with the Wolf. Good morning, Good morning everyone out
there on the Audia side. Iappreciate you spending time on this. Thank
you very much. Make sure youleave a review, hit that liking,
subscribe, yeada edda, YadA.Hey, I know that fella. Good

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to see you. Short face Bearsanother Yeah, I'm the short face Bear.
Essentially you can. I mean,let's just consider, hey, another
guy that spent some time out inthe Pacific Northwest. I think he's still
probably a family out there if Ido remember correctly that there's so many large

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that would have occupied most of theseplaces when these people live there, and
so you could tell that definitely,like even up north with Inuit people and
a lot of the first Uh peopletribes of of of Alaska that they that
they were dealing with some massive,scary, terrifying animals which would lead to
these larger than life folklore stories.And we're going to get into one of

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them right now. Uh. Andso it's pretty much a very similar story
shared from from the Shaleless Shalist nationall the way up to Inuit people in
Alaska. And there's even stories thatyou've probably heard on paranormal podcasts stuff before
about national parks, like that Devil'sMonument thing there and a bear leaving it
scratch marks in and I can't rememberthe tribe that said that, but they

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also, you know, the giantbear, you know, terrorizing their people
has been a major theme for alot of these tribes. And so let's
get into one of these now.M First up a very similar story between
the Piolpe nation than a squally nation, the Shayless nation. In the last

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time it was really told was onit was before what's that town? What's
that town? Felth of the capitalthere was, Oh my god, it's
named after the famous chief. Ican't remember the name Leshie Town. No,
No, this is Lesher Town.I think it's Lesher Town Leshie Town.
I don't remember where that is now, I'm forgetting, but Leshi Town

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is named after this chief and hispeople tell the story of this giant bear
and terrorizing people. But it startsoff like this, long long ago,
some Puget Sound people, what thehell's going on here? Long long ago,

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some of the Puget Sound Indians usedto say, people on earth became
so numerous that they ate all thefishing game, that they began to eat
each other, and soon they becameworse than wild animals had been. And
remember earlier, but I say,I said, I spoke about geologists and

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hydrogeologists, volcanists and all this otherstuff, talking about how these Native American
stories from the area actually reflect thesame dates. These horrific natural disasters also
happened in and Uh. And there'sthere's a couple of interesting things too about
the idea of Native Americans explaining whereall the fish and the game went and

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the food went that they used topick up. When suddenly, over the
course of a very short time,I mass Jesus has fruit flies. Every
time certain fruit or whatever blooms forthe end of the season, and they're
everywhere. I apologize if you're fromthe Pacific northwest, you know what it's
like, BlackBerry people. Anyways,there is uh, there's apples all over
the ground everywhere out here, andthey're all rotting and the animals are getting

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drunk and stoned and doing what animalsdo, sicks. Anyways, So there
is a geological there are geological markersand history of these things happening that can
be mapped with the lahars that destroytrees and of course tribal lands, and
so they match the people's story.And there's something interesting about one of their

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oldest stories from all the people andone of the most protected but dangerous places,
but it is one of the mostprotected places on the geological record is
specific northwest. One day, allthe animals and plants went away and the
fish for no fish to be found. We know that actually happened on twelve
thousand years ago. Right around twelvethousand years ago, didn't like a giant

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percentage of the floor in fauna disappear, something like ninety some odd percent,
And for decades and decades and decades, the idea was, of course that
human beings had hunted and killed everything. I mean the the the scientific story
hypothesis of what happened was no differentthan what the beginning of this story is.

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And a lot a lot of thefirst people's myth, uh, you
know, myth of where they camefrom, or like where who invented things?
You know, And of course theydidn't keep unnecessarily kept an or record.
A lot of these people not necessarilya written record that was staying the
test of time to some degree whereit wouldn't change. And of course they
find themselves explaining things that would havebeen quite obvious to people that something horrifying

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was happening, like a volcano,like like Taco Bud or whatever else it
was called by the people there haderupted again or something, and all the
animals left and it was just destroyedsomething equivalent to that. So a story
starts off with all the fish andgame are gone, and they believe the
animals are The people have become sonumbers that they had eaten eaten them all,

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and soon because there was no animalsand no game, they began to
eat one another. Soon they becameworse than the wild animals that were once
there. They became so wicked thatdon't don't keep bato. I don't know
to say that. I apologize.I tried to look up how to pronounce
the names of these things, andI couldn't find a lot of these deities

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and gods and whatnot. So Iapologize. If you're out there listening,
you know how to say these things. You can punch me in the face,
send me your DNA in the mail, whatever you want. Otherwise known
as the Changer, and I'm justgoing to keep saying. The Changer,
okay, sent a flood upon theearth all living things that remained, these

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beings that were once human, sodumb and primitive and horrible to one another,
literally running around and eating one anotherin the wilderness, and he wiped
them out with a flood. Awoman in a single dog fled to the
top of Taco Bud mount Rainier,and they stayed there until the flood left

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the earth. From the woman andthe dog were born the next race of
people, this is, okay,the squally people. They walked on four
legs and lived in holes in theground, and they ate fern roots and
camist bulbs, which they dug withtheir fingers because they had no tools,

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having no fire and no clothing,they suffered from both the heat and the
cold, and the troubles were madeworse when a giant bear came upon from
the south. And this just wasn'ta regular bear. This was a massive
bear. This is a bear solarge that when it showed up, it
could destroy your village easily on itsown, and nothing you could do to

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stop it. The bear was hugeand strong, and also seemed to have
some sort of special powers as thebravest of the warriors of the Nisqually and
the pill people looked upon its eyesand froze cast a spell upon whoever the

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creatures the creature wanted to eat,and then that creature was enable. Then
that creature, I apologize. Iread that twice. And then the person
that looked upon the bear's eyes wouldn'tbe able to move, and the bear
ate him. The people had noweapons, and so the bear was about.

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The people had no weapons to stopthe bear, and so the bear
was about to eat them all whensuddenly the Changer sent what was interpreted as
a spirit man over the mountains fromthe east. Quote his face was like

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the sun. Now, I'm nottrying to stop and add my own two
cents every all the time here.But I mean, how many people do
we know today that seem they've hadexperiences that by uh, I'm not gonna
say, but there's there's uh,there's all types of people that claim that
there's there's these light beings out didthat show up and literally look like they're

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glowing in the face and all that. This is just what I've heard.
I haven't. I haven't seen theglowing face guy. Maybe he spoke to
the disqually and I follow people,And when his voice came out of the

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sun like face, it sounded nodifferent than the thunderbird. That's interesting.
He came armed with bows and arrowsand a spear, and he had great
powers of spirit. Why do youweep, he asked his people, or
he asked the people, we weepbecause of the bear. The beast is

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about to destroy us, and noneof us can escape him. The spirit
man did not promise to help himor to help them. He did show
them how to walk on two feet, though, and he told them about
the world's two spirits and how greatthey were, but not great in a

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good way. One was good andone was bad. The good one had
sent him the spirit warrior. Hethen returned to the mountain. The people
believed he went off to talk forthe good Spirit, the changer. When

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the spirit man came to the peoplea second time, he brought many strange
gifts and stayed for many moons.First, he called all the people together
for a big potluck, the firstpotlock of all Indians. He told them
that the potluck is a big feastin gift giving celebration. To the young

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men, the spirit man gave bows, arrows and spears, he taught all
the young men how to use them. To the old men, he gave
canoes. He showed them how tomake canoes from cedar trees, and how
to make fishing spears and nets,and had to fish from the canoes and
the Great River. The spiritman taughtthe girls how to make skirts from the

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inner bark of cedar trees, andhow to paint their faces and oil their
hair so they were more beautiful thanhow to sing. He showed the elder
women to dig camus roots with stickshe brought them, and how to make
baskets out of cedar bark and seaweed. He showed them how to make fire

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by rubbing two sticks together, howto cook and how to carry and how
to carry burdens by strapping them acrossthe head. And he said, you
will serve man and be useful tohim in these ways. The spirit man

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told the woman you he will beyour master. I like the spirit guy.
This guy's good. Then the spiritmanfilled himself with strong powers, for
his next task was to kill thegiant bear. First, he put seven

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arrows into his bag. He calledtogether the men of the tribe, and
for one whole sun, the groupchanted over the arrows to make them strong
with spirit power. The spiritman tookone arrow and pushed it into the ground
in the center of the plane westof Mount Rainier. After walking half a

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day towards the lodge of the greatbear, he pushed a second arrow into
the ground. He walked for anotherhalf day towards the bear's den and pushed
a third arrow into the ground.Thus he kept on until he had placed
six arrows erect in a straight line. With a seventh arrow in his hand,
the Spiritman went up to the bear. The beast tried to cast a

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spell from his eyes, but theSpiritman's spirit powers were so strong that the
bear could have no effect on him. He shot the seventh arrow into the
beast, and then ran back tothe sixth arrow. The bear followed him.
He shot the sixth arrow and thenran back to the fifth. The

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bear followed him. They kept runninguntil they reached the first arrow. The
spiritman shot the first arrow into theheart of the beast and killed them there.
The great bear died in the middleof a squally plane. All the
people were glad when they gathered togethernear the dead beast that had frightened them

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for so very long. They removedthe skin and divided it equally among the
different branches of the tribe. Thebear was so huge that the skin of
one ear covered the whole mound prairie. The last thing the spiritman did for
the people on this journey to theirland was to make a large building with

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just one opening. In this bighouse he placed all diseases and evil deeds
known to the world since then.He called a certain family to him and
made them guardians of the building.What was in the building, that house
he told them to guard. Heonly told one person, the head of

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the family. He said, youand your children and grandchildren will take care
of this house forever. The spiritmansaid, remember that the door must never
be opened, and remember that onlythe head man of this family is to
ever know what is in this house. After many years, the only members

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of the family left were an oldman and his wife and daughter. One
day, when her family and motherwent away from the house, the daughter
saw her chance to finally peek into the spirit man's house. Their family
was there to guard. She hadlong wanted to see what was behind that

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door, so she undid the fastenings, pushed backed the door just a little
distance, and out rushed all thecreatures of the house, all the diseases
and evil deeds that had ever beenin the world ever since. The changer

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appeared and was so angry with thedaughter that he created the demon Sitko Sitko.
Sitko's home is among the rocks anddistant mountains, I'm guessing the cascades.
He sleeps by day. At nighthe flies over the earth to seize

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any women he finds that are strollingalone, minding their own business, doing
their work in the woods. Littlelittle little little twister at the end.

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Okay uh, So that's the nasquallyand p all up and Sheehalish and muckleshoot
story. That that is so verysimilar between each one, except the names
of the mountain change slightly, thenames of the deity the changer changed slightly,
but they are, you know,very very similar. There's like one
or two letters off and I thinkthe one that I could barely say and
sounded like an idiot. But anyways, you know, of course, folklore

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tends to have a moral behind thestory. The myths and legends and you
know, urban legends and stuff thatmake up what we consider folklore, usually
to some degree or at least tothe scholars that that analyze the stories have
have morals behind them. And ofcourse, you know that was no different
from the people that there. Youknow that there was reasons why they told

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these stories, not just to explainsomething so they didn't have to look into
it in some sort of western scientificempirical way like way, but also because
it relayed lessons to the people.Because I just gave you the bullet points
of the story, but respect fornature and overconsumption takes a major theme in
that story. The story begins withthe idea that there were too many people

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for the earth to sustain itself.They killed and aid everything. It leads
to disaster, as seen when theearly people ate all the fish and game
turned to cannibalism. I mean,even Western let's just be real, even

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like like you know, of courseChristianity and the earlier forms of it,
and how it merged in from multipledifferent religions wherever, you know, whatever
people were conquering or being conquered,and whatever religion was taking hold of the
time or spreading there just make withand they became like a combination of things.
And you have to just face that. I'm not saying it's good or
bad or whatever. I don't care. I'm just saying that's the fact.

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This story seems so darn similar.And a lot of them, of course,
are from like tribal people that likeyou know, lived so far away
from anything that was considered you know, to the west is like a civilized
place that they even up north andlike in Europe and uh and of course
down the southern parts of Europe whereAfricans are making their way across the moops.

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No, and and so these storiesremain and they seem very similar anyways,
But the dangers of unchecked powers.There's this giant bear roaming around,
does whatever it wants, owns usat any moment, this freaking you know,
uh, you know this this beastcan just show up and destroy us

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and take us away. And weare we we we think we might be
free to some degree, but we'renot because it's just terrorizing us. Where
where can you think unchecked Where whatcan you see today in our culture that
you might put the term unchecked poweron? How about the value of guidance?

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Think about what it's like to tella young person something. If they
pretend to listen, that's great.If they listen, that's amazing. But
most times, what is it youdon't tell me? Or something? Not
literally that But of course I knowthere's a lot of respectful children out there,
but also you know, looking towardssome sort of spirit guidance, we're

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not all you know, these tribeshad you know, kind of personified deities.
A lot of them are not personifiedat all, especially like of course
throughout the United States or North Americangeneral, they weren't personified, but somewhere
and and you know, like lookingto this spirit and trying to be like

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the stories you hear of the goodspirit, or maybe you're not. Maybe
you like the bad spirit, maybeyou like bad medicine. Maybe you like
practicing some pretty weird stuff. Buteither way, the value of guidance is
there from the non physical or themetaphysical, metaphor or whatever analogies to to
literally your actual parents and whatnot,grandparents and the elders of the tribe that

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can pass down these stories, thesememories that really happen. The important of
knowledge and skills when we talk aboutfolklore and lessons learned and them or what's
the moral of that story? Whatdo you think the knowledge of skills are
the teaching of women where their placeis. I mean, get in your
place, woman, all right,take it easy. These are their worst.

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But what one can obviously see thatyou or if you know the history
of Western interactions, you know likewhen the when the Puritans got to the
northern area in New England area,that one of the first things that was
documented between them is that we hadsuch different cultures. It was like men
were there swinging hammers and weaving basketsand and pulling rakes and whatnot. Of

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course, there are certain people thatare doing things like guard guard and being
part of armies or or malicious orwhatnot. But literally it's backwards European men
often it did many things. Andand women were traditionally, uh, you
know, obviously meant to or youknow, forced to kind of be slaves
to their husbands and you know,their children, you know, so they

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had more employees, you know.But it's like in in the in uh
in the you know, native cultures, and and it's far more the majority
as far as I can see anywhereI've ever looked. It's you had women
basically doing almost all the roles thatmen performed today. And men spent their
time honing their skills and hunting anduh and and obviously keeping adversarial families and

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tribes and people at bay. Andand you know what good was a man
at a time when you needed tobe able to protect your family quite you
know, quite a bit. Andand of course a big part of Native
culture in the Northeast was to youknow, like to be able to have

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something to say about yourself, likewe don't you know, Joa. Today
we a lot of people are depressedas hell because they feel like they haven't
done anything with their lives. Andyet a big part of Western interaction was
talking about how Native Americans just braggedlike literally like that's what people described like
all they do is brag. It'slike, there I was, I slayed
three bear before the cat jumped onmy back, and you know, it's

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like so like, you know,and then I fought off to mohawks before
I made my way back to youknow, it's like and so like these
telling the stories, I think that'sbad ass. Tell your stories. That's
sick and uh, but you knowthese you know, I'll just go on
from there. Never mind. ObviouslyI was joking about the woman take it

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easy. But you got to rememberthere were completely different cultures back then,
and obviously people have varying opinions aboutthat today. The consequences of curiosity,

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the consequences of curiosity obviously takes amajor role almost like I mean, I
can't even you couldn't count the numberI'm sure of folklore and legends and myths
that that have something to do withsomeone that opened something, someone that went
somewhere they should, and someone thattouched an apple or something, you know
what I mean. And and sothis one's no different in the story about

(35:45):
you know, the great Spirit uhsending the spirit Man to help these people,
and the Spiritman creates this host tobag up basically all the woes that
ever occupied humankind before, and sothat these new people with new abilities as

(36:07):
in tools and the life and bowsand skills and whatnot, and you know
whatever, wouldn't have them. Sureenough, she opens it and looks in
and typical gotta be a woman.Thank you. I was about to say
that, and I appreciate you sayingthat. Right there. I can tell

(36:29):
people that listening, uh, Pandora'sBox, that's right. I mean,
this is another key feature of theactual legend. Is that is that this
curiosity part of it can be foundin many different tales and whatnot, And
and I think Pandora's Box is probablythe best known one. Right Jack in

(36:49):
the Box would be the second restaurant. I don't know if you ever been
there. It's pretty great. Isee it all the time. Back in
the day, I miss it.I was the best shape of my life
or the second best shape in mylife, I guess. And also ate
fast food every single day. Iprobably was not doing so well on the
inside the Pacific Northwest Jack in theBox, it was great, those French
fries mane anyway, But what elsewe got here? It's that is basically

(37:22):
what you know, some of thetribes interpreted what came out of this home
or building, you know, withthis little tiny door on it, this
crypt like description or or you knowmound uh you know like description. You
know, is just that there area lot of other types of things and
the creation of that of that demonto go along with all the evil in

(37:45):
the world. You know, isis oftentimes in my mind where you see
that human fallibility come in where it'slike it's like, did I say that
word right? It's it's it's whereyou see the very typical no matter who
the people are are from the firstpeople of the Pacific Northwest or you know,
some Central European uh, you know, rabble, you see these these

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really nonsensical parts of the story thatit like only make the deity the good
Spirit look kind of like an asshole. Suddenly it's like, well, aren't
they the good guy? Aren't theythe good one? I don't know.
But of course there's also the greatflood in the story. You hear that
there was a great flood that tookplace, and you know personally that the

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great flood part of the story isso close to the running out of food
part of the story, and eatingeach other part of the story and populating
in too many numbers, which mightbe an explanation when're all looking around like
there's too many of you, we'rerunning out of food. What are we
gonna do? But there's uh,you know. Of course, we eventually
found out that around that time period, it's not the exept you know,

(38:59):
in the paranormal or crypto archaeology,whatever these people call it, you find
yourselves just really blending into many things. But we do know of crater impacts
that happened in was it Iceland,Greenland? Was it like I think eight
eleven eleven thousand, eighteen eleven eighthundred to like twelve thousand something except something

(39:22):
years possibly when these things impacts happened, and as as the Earth turns out,
the people that would suffer, ofcourse, across that great northern plain
fertile soil, I think many thingswould change. I'm guessing, just guessing,
guessing. Of course, since thePacific Northwest is one of the most
volcanic has has some of the mostvolcanic cones dead cones that exist, that

(39:47):
it would make sense that a lotof their stories would involve massive eruptions or
floods mud slide Lahar like scenarios.You know, let's take you on the
map real quick before we take aquick break here. Sorry, I'm boring
the crap out of everyone. Iapologize. I love everyone that's here right

(40:07):
now. I don't know if thenumber is on my thing are right,
but they just drop down drastically rightaround thirty something minutes every every show.
Okay, good morning everyone in thechat there. I hope you're well,
good afternoon, good evening wherever you'unin the world. Blah blah blah,
appreciate being here. I'm gonna bringthis up here. What is this song?
Oh okay, let's look this upreal fast. I'm gonna pause that

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real quick because I got some stuffhappening here. And when I said earlier,
you know, the geological record,all that the vocalists that are looking
into these things, they'll talk aboutit. You know, I lived for
a while right above one of theseLahar zones, and and it's pretty wild
to look at it and to thinkof, like, what would happen to
the people that live there, andwhat would they describe what happened to their

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you know, how would they comeup with the stories and they start finding
these stories a match, and uh, it's just pretty sick to see.
I mean not good. I meanit's awful to them, but I mean
they still happen. Today. We'veseen mudslides captured on camera, but there's
some of this year I want tobring up. Sorry, give me a
second recount of Google Earth stream yardwhere the error codes coming my way all

(41:29):
show long click click click, Imay or may not answer the message from

(41:54):
someone in the time I said toyou I was opening up Google Earth,
Google Life. Hmm. Do yousee this area right here ricon It looks

(42:29):
different, right, pretty? Italmost looks like a giant river, right.
I mean, obviously you see thePiolup River in there, but the
stories in the disqually and the pollUp natives of how this river got there
as another myth with morals, andyou know, obviously things we can draw
from it that they can help uslearn and be safer in the world.

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And one of them is the timeyou know, well, I'm just gonna
give you the rough outline of itthat these children playing along the Polup River
see two whales that live there,and one day these whales start thrashing because
they are trying to make it outinto the ocean. The whales are thrashing
so bad that they thrash their waythrough these whole this hole and eventually make

(43:15):
it out to the bay. Otherstories, of course being the four whales,
but the stories vary and they allare from an oral tradition that is
rooted around one thousand years ago.And around one thousand years ago, we
start seeing these lajars pop up everywhere. Now, if you don't know Washington
State, this isn't a squally,I mean sorry, this is a mounta

(43:37):
right near it is a volcano andan active one. But this whole area
right here, this whole thing isjust all dead volcano cones. Like,
it's just they're all just dead now. But it what do you think they
used to do? They probably usedto erupt. And you start seeing all

(43:58):
these lahar zones all of place,and the legends that follow follow them,
and uh, let's go back toordering real quick. Can we put the
little guy in the ground in theorder? We can't? Can we see

(44:22):
from the ground? What is this? We can't see from the ground.
I thought Google Earth had like aoh okay, cool, let's go look
at the valley that we're in here, folks. Well I picked a bad
spot, I guess, but Igo forward here. Okay, that's better.

(44:51):
Let's do three D. You seethe valley here that we're in and
where it comes from, Well,this valley sits on meters of this lahar.
This debris. If you know awarewhat lahara is, just imagine all
the snow, the ice, thewater, the poop, the trees,
the whatever, debris, all thatis just getting smashed down a volcano,

(45:14):
you know. If not the partthat didn't erupt into the air, we're
talking about the part that's rallying onthe side of thing, and it just
clears out everything in a huge mudwater. It's like it's disgusting and it
just destroys everything as far as Ican see. And it's right outside obviously
see mount rainiers here where the Laharawould have went. It goes roughly forty
miles an hour. And if youlook up the area, you just saw

(45:37):
that there was a bunch of schoolsdown there, and all of those schools
take part of the United States largestlaharre evacuation practice. They still do it
today. Literally, the entire cityarea gets up against all the children in
an emergency with all these sirens goingoff and walks them out of there.
Now, there's a little bit ofbetter preparation nowadays with predictions and things.

(45:58):
And you know, obviously you knowthat there's equipment that's literally like drilled into
the side of mount right near tolet you know when things are happening.
But it's, uh, it's it'ssomething that is going to happen again and
it hasn't stopped in a long time. In this in the folklore that you

(46:22):
know that is derived from these laharsof these events and these eruptions are what
we're gonna cover right now. Andjust for anyone who's ever wondering, I
used to live right here. Ibuilt the cabin one time right over here.
Can I rotate this thing? Iwonder if it's still there. I

(46:59):
would dota every night. So manycoyotes right here. You want to this
is a true story about yours truly. Here I used to ride my motorcycle
like every single day, almost everybasically every single day around Mount Rainier.

(47:20):
And uh, you come back andif you go through this back way around
right here, it's absolutely wild.It's just it looks like you're in Jurassic
Park. It's it's the most beautifulplace I've ever seen. Every place in
the United States has beautiful areas,but they all come with something that kills
you. I prefer things that arelarge that kill you. That's what I
like. I like things that,even though they're bigger than me or as

(47:43):
big as me, I can hearthem or see them coming. I don't
like going like Florida. I loveit, but let's be real, if
you want to go like in CentralFlorida somewhere or something, the things that
will kill you will swim into yourear or your butt. I liked I
like Ort Massachusetts. Now, ofcourse, you can't go into the woods
without literally being covered from head totoe and ticks, which if those ticks

(48:07):
were ever on animals, they killyou, not kill you easily. Lime
dies either. All this stuff butthat might necessarily get you, But there
are plenty of other things that willfill your blood up with parasites until you're
fucking dead. Disgusting ricon, dude, those do you remember the I don't

(48:32):
know if you even remember, uh, because I was in at the time.
I was in headquarters in that sshop, so I don't even I
don't think you guys were with us, but major hastings. Do you remember
major Hastings. If you remember MajorHastings from the s shop, that guy
used to try to break us offall the time. And one day he

(48:54):
walked us. I don't remember howmany miles, but through some of these
areas it was just I couldn't freakingbelieve it. Man. It was like
you like boulders. The size ofhomes just dropped off, like stuck in
the side of it where all thesetrees have grown over, and so there's
water like running through it, forcingcaves everywhere you go. There's like these
little like worn out bull It's justit's insane. And and he had obviously

(49:19):
been to the spot before. Idon know, I don't eve remember where
we were, but it was justlike this place is just so raw and
unbelievably fruitful, if you will,because I remember when I was elk hunting
out there. Could I could youimagine if you you could kill an elk
back then uh, you know,with that by any means possible. So
it's not we're not talking about liketoday's standard where we'll give you. We
give ourselves rules like you could diga ditch and drive a bunch of elk

(49:42):
into it and they fall and breaktheir neck and go take them and you
know, for the tribe. Sothat's okay. But I mean I was
just out there and just see somany different animals and uh, and just
I couldn't believe just how rich itwas with with life. It is insane
and mount Rainier of course is youknow, gorgeous and terrifying. But I
used to ride around all the time, get off, just park my bike
on the edge of the road andwalk into the woods. The place was

(50:06):
great. And it's just it's fullof all these crazy old like we don't
think of them as valuable because they'reoral traditions and oral legends. We don't
think of them as ash as beingyou know, as important as a documented
history of like the first anthropological digat something or whatever. Like it's just

(50:30):
not there because it's not as accurateand it's broad and a little bit ambiguous.
But nevertheless, like a lot ofChristian archaeologists, they've been like,
well, why did this story firstappear the same time this invasion of this
town. Obviously the town existed,and this was all I gonna I figured
it out. I'm a Romanian ChristianRomanian archaeological critiquer. But you know,

(50:59):
so people oftentimes don't think they're asimportant. In my mind, though,
when I hear some of these storiesand I see that they match up with
the Lahars, and I'm going toshare with you some stuff here as you
can see it. You know,you yourself can see rather the Lahars and
the stories in the myst that goalong with them, of like the whales
being trapped inland and right along theseplaces I'm talking about in these rivers and

(51:23):
uh, and you know, it'sjust it's it's kind of fascinating to me
because we think of like Native historyas old. We think of our folklore
or some just like ridiculously ancient ancientthing that we don't even you know,
like it's folklore, like at bestit's something entertaining on TV. But for
a lot of people that didn't keepa written history until a certain time period,

(51:47):
those that folklore, those urban legendsare not comparable. And it's almost
kind of like insulting to pretend liketheir folklore is the same thing as some
some you know, horseshit on TVfrom about Robin Hood or something not that
Robin Hood's not great and he wasrobbing from the rich and the impressed and
giving back and you know, bangingmarry him or whatever. But that's great,
but it's something that no one considers. Who the hell's like thinking of

(52:08):
Robin Hood today is like being somesort of valuable lesson. I better tell
it's about Robin Hood. It's justnot the same and h and it's it's
just cool to see that. It'sa it's it's these are not old stories.
I mean, these are old stories, but these are not like old
cultures to the point where are howdo I even say this? You don't

(52:29):
you do not have to dig deepinto these lahars to see the evidence of
what these people are saying. Andthat's fascinating because they're in numbers of people
are everywhere. The natives didn't goanywhere. This is a true story.
Ready, I drove with a girlfriendyears ago across the country. I had
already been and you know, theDakota is and all this other area quite
a bit, you know, travelaround by myself at this point, and

(52:52):
she had never even seen a NativeAmerican her entire life. Her reaction was
so like, I don't even knowhow to describe it. It was like
it was like the epitome of whatpeople probably think of Americans and what they
know about their own culture. Shewas like, she, she's looking at
all these guys, these there werekids trying to buy beer and they were
getting rejected at a gas station andSue fall South Dakota and uh, oh

(53:15):
no, I don't know. Ithink it was outside of Seoux Falls and
uh. And she was like,oh my god, they're they're they're real,
like they're they're still here. Iwas like, are you I looked
at it. I was like,are you fucking Like I couldn't even believe
like her reaction. I mean,she spent most of her life in Cape
Cod, so she you would thinkat one point she would have met the

(53:37):
mash Piece who have a reservation thereand uh and and hold potlucks all the
time and tribal events all the time. But but still she it was like
she, you know, well,also running off the same stream of consciousness
here. I hate that expression,but uh she. I also remember,

(53:57):
though, I went to a wampinOg thing once when I was younger.
I told you it was absolute ridiculous. They had like they were just hiring
actors. They that it was noway they were there were. We walked
in there and there was like aPuerto Rican lady and she was like,
Oh, you like it in here, don't you? Oh you like it
in here, That's right. Youlike coming into my house where it's nice
and warm. Don't you? Youlike it in here? You need my

(54:20):
house, don't you? Was like, what the fuck is this? Is
this a Native American interpret or alike Fall River Fall River Providence a Warwick
interpretation of of what the first thefirst wamp and Og interaction was or whatever,
But it's it was quite hilarious.But either way, I just I

(54:42):
was shocking to see that she hadshe didn't even realize that these people are
everywhere still then a lot of themwere forced in smaller, cramped places.
They were unfortunately, uh, unfortunateand awfully awful, awfully hard or harsh
rather to live in and and justlike the Kings Philip war to the Trail
of Tears, they all have alegacy behind them of what happened. But
they're still here and their stories arestill here. They might not know them

(55:07):
as well as they used to becausea lot of these tribes, of course
are freaking absolutely like decimated. Anda lot of them, of course are
decimated by drug problems, and ofcourse Americas like forced the simulation upon them
for years and years and years.But they're still here and there's a resurgence
of pride. As I said,I spent all those years in the Pacific

(55:27):
Northwest watching these TV shows just beinglike, damn and these could you imagine
like actually being like, you know, a part of a people that have
to I mean, it's like crazy, this the the I remember the first
one I ever watched, the firstwords I'll never forget the very first words
I watched on the television that show. It was like it was like,
you do not come from a peoplethat are addicted to alcohol. You come

(55:53):
from this. And it flashed tolike these these all this traditional stuff and
it was it was absolutely amazing.And so this is just like we talked
about, like other cultures in theparanormal time, you'll see that a lot
of Native and First people and Indiantribes out there of course will be you
know, their stories will be takenand uh everything's turned in some like mischievous

(56:15):
like mischievous thing rather and uh misterievous. Yeah, And uh, you know,
instead of like what it was.And of course they all had these
folklore like morals to them, andeven like the craziest ones, the demonic
like ones, and they all absolutelyhad their own, you know, a

(56:37):
reason for them. And so beforethey get turned into puck wadgy stories that
are stealing your chickens and killing youin the woods and all that stuff,
even though some stories like that existed, they were in fact they had broader
reasons for being told. Like I'vejust shared with you right there, Ricon,
we've gone for an hour. Hitthat like and subscribe. Give me
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I don't doubt, I don't know. I don't blame you if you don't,
but I'd really appreciate it if youdo, because we could surely use
the follows. We actually made itover a certain number of follows, and
then they all went away again yesterday'sepisode. It's unreal, man. People
just hate alternative perspectives when it comesto the fact that they're being used over

(57:23):
the UAP topic. They really didn'tlike that anyways, I for one look
forward towards next Folklore Friday when Imight find some more Pacific Northwestern Maybe I'll

(57:47):
go over to the United Tribes overin the Akima Valley, because of course
that's more many paranormal and weird UFOlike sightings have happened. I've even seen
some pretty weird stuff in Yakima,but of course I can always attribute it
to you know, natural phenomena whatever. But I remember it was the first
time I ever looked up at areally bright night sky my first trip to
yakam Washington, YTC. I Uh, at this training center, I put

(58:10):
my nods on, looked up atthe starry night sky. I was just
like holy, Like I couldn't evenbelieve it, because the Massachusetts it's like
seven stars, and everyone was like, whoa, look at those two planets
and four three. I don't know. I think, how many planets can
you actually see in the night skywhen you can only see a few stars?
Isn't on like two planets you seelike Mars and Venus. I don't

(58:31):
remember, but uh it was.I put my nods on, looked up
laying on top of or sitting ontop of a humbe and just like put
my head back and and it was. It was insane. If you've ever
if you've never had a chance todo that in your entire life, We're
gonna just go to YouTube and lookup some videos of what it's like to

(58:52):
look up, you know, lookat it. Looking at a an unsaturated
sky with night vision, it isabsolutely while you can see the earth crash
into meteors, like if you focusenough and pay close enough attention, especially
with a good enough, high enoughquality set of night para night vision,
you can literally see like rocks tumbling, burning up, and it's pretty wild

(59:16):
stuff. So I'm just looking atthis thing, you know, I get
it going here, Ladies and gents, boys and girls, cats and kittens
and pooches and pump puppies. Ireally appreciate it. Let's bring stories of
aliens saving humans from the apocalypse.I'd personally think that if aliens were going

(59:38):
to show up and save humans fromunapocalypse, either everyone keeps misrepresenting what the
word apocalypse means, or the apocalypseis gonna have to be so big and
so grand that there was only gonnabe one woman and one dog left,

(01:00:00):
if you know what I mean.But I also think, why wouldn't aliens
save us from mosquitoes? Why wouldn'taliens save us from I don't know,
like, why doesn't an alien ifthis happens, if aliens come down and
influence or save humans or don't savehumans or whatnot, why why don't they

(01:00:22):
ever? I'm just I know thisis a ridiculous question because the topic in
itself inherently you know, But whydoesn't say, like the aliens come down
and like affect the brain of say, the Coca Cola Corporation. I don't

(01:00:59):
know, Maybe that's just my uh, ladies and gents, boys and girls.
I'll shut up now, you know, we got I have a lot
of weird stuff that we that we'vecovered and in terms of like Grip did,
like things that have been claimed andtake a quick break here. When
we get back, I'll stick aroundfor a little bit longer. Here.

(01:01:21):
We'll hang on for maybe another halfhour, and uh, you know,
I'll tell you a story about whenI was a child, about this old
woman from Portugal who was visiting herfamily and misidentified me for her relative.
And I I was a freckle facedkid, So I don't know why,
but either way, it's a funnystory. She went on to tell me
because I only know one word,and it was the word that I saw

(01:01:44):
on television. That the word wastopacabra or something like that, you know,
the you know, the old bloodgoat sucker thing. And her reaction
to me saying this coopocabachopocabo. However, it's pronounced wherever you're from, it's
it's you know, it's us fromall the way from South America to west
southwestern Europe. But you know,her reaction was insane. Not insane that

(01:02:08):
she like wigged out. This isa very old woman, but her reaction
was to almost start crying and like, oh like. And she went on
to tell my buddy, who translated, that she had a bunch of goats
that were her favorite pets when shewas a little girl, and she found
them all drained of blood. Andhe will talk about that when I get
back with a little history of somethingI like to call shit. Where is

(01:02:36):
it? I don't know. It'sit's the Vampire of something, the Vampire
of Mola or something. I don'tknow, but it's about the evolution of
the story of the troop of Cabraand why if you see that in you
know, the troop of Gabra kindof ticks fame in like the mid nineties,
but the stories go way back ofpeople finding their goats, allegedly trained
of blood, allegedly stick around riconfor those that are left. And remember

(01:03:00):
this seems like a big Hollywood production, but I am in fact in someone's
attic. Hey, what's on?What's going on? Real? Jeff?
All right, ladies and gents,I'll ber it back, stick around,
don't go anywhere. Oh, letyou nice headlocks up? Yes, I

(01:03:24):
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that judo lock before you throw meback into jail. Ladies and gens,
Boys and girls, stick around.Hear some music from our buddy in the
UK. Rob don't go nowhere.Do some push ups, do some squats.
Travis Taylor said, get ready forthe aliens, so you can just

(01:04:30):
on the color green. Haven't seein seon growing in jeestting bushes on them
in the row. Come with comfort, gentle passage, um me machines,
giveing them these bodies, cree gettingstem with them like stam with me.

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I'll come with it all. Comfortyou. Let's say it's time about not
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to be super well, we'll seea travel show. Bunny Cheese say stuts
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about the house, and what's themother choking gloves? Little down on the

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butter side, touch ourselves like aparaside. You can't stop a looking count
of bird out pies down a bootyand a jar of amount a hide and
stop that nothing till we got ourboat company me and something out for flesh
shot side. I'm not it's againhome. Steer in my phone to the

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suction, manual subduction, nagual subjectionrecoon. Thank you, thank Rob for

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ladies and gents, boys and girls. What's happening with the green screen?
I don't know. When I wasa kid, I spoke to a woman
who lived who was from Portugal andwho was there visiting. And she was
quite old, and she you know, you know, pinched. She was

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thinking I was this kid mark whoI was not. But I was standing
next to one of her grandchildren,so she just thought, oh, that's
my other grandchild. Except I laughedbecause they all look like, you know,
like partial, like you know,Portuguese, not really soon and and
that's because their family was split U. But I certainly didn't look like them.

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It was hilarious. But either way, I only knew one word,
and I was a kid who wasalready into all the stuff and the language
that she was. She spoke andI said, like Cooper Cabra. She
said, oh, chuprah, youknow whenever. And she told me about
how she used to have all theseghats when she was a kid, like
thirteen years old. She used tolove them so much until she took care

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of them, and then one dayshe found them all with little bites in
the neck and they're all drained ofblood. My buddy translated for me and
his rough understanding of what his grandmotherwas saying in that old language of Portuguese.
And so I always found it interestingthat even though you know, she
had no evidence backup claimed, andof course she wasn't there to see what
actually did it, but since shefound goats, you know, the same

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way, so many other people haddescribed it, who allegedly seen these found
their goats being attacked at the timeby some glowing eyed thing that she of
course attributed it to to what itwas. But the thing I found interesting
is that she described something very differentin the sense that the troop of cabra.

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Whatever this thing was, Cooper Cabrawas no different than a witch or
something, because that same woman wenton to tell me about you know,
when I said about the three lightsin the sky, and my friend,
you ever see UFOs because of courseI had seen that UFO by that time,
and and she she responded with,I said one of the lights,

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and she said the lanterns on thewitch's brooms. Of course, like just
said, it's a matter of fact, of course. And I'm just remember
thinking, okay, this is that'shilarious. Are gonna be that has to
be spaceships from other worlds? Thislady, what a goof? All right?
Anyways, but you know, eitherway, there was this woman who
I didn't know, who was veryelderly, who had the story, this

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alleged firsthand story of her finding hergoats all with their blood drained or whatever
in the morning. And of coursethis this belief that this vampiric like thing
was around, and so I decided, why not look at some folklore or
revolved you know that that has evolvedaround evolved from got them way off right

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now. I shouldn't have just broughtthe tribe together when I was on break,
if you know what I'm saying.But let's just say I got distracted
while looking into the actual folklore aroundthe origins of vampire like goats sucking stories
and started to find more interesting things. And if I could share some of

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them with you right now, that'swhat I think I'll do for the end
of today's episode. And they're notnecessarily what you all think. It's not
going to be stories of goats ripping. The heads off are goats ripping.
That's of people seeing their goats beingdestroyed by by couch. You know,

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I'll give you one. I'll giveyou one. Okay, I'll give you
one story about a goat sucker,and then that's it. And then we're
moving on to an area in centralPuerto Rico, which I think is worth
talking about since it's filled with somany stories of this alleged goat sucker,
and since we see tribal people todaystill even report goblins or demons, even

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of course, if they are thelumber company sending rogue hubverboard psychopaths and green
goblin masks to go harassed locals andleaving their tribal land so they can cut
it down you think that's made up. It seems like that's kind of what
happened just recently. But this,of course is a three foot demon and

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not a hoverboard riding, green goblinmask wearing psychopath working for the lumber company.
Do you have a Chucca uchuccha?Do you have a chucha holy Cow?
No, no, no, Ididn't say that. Do you have
a Cooper Cobra star? Okay,so you have ature cabra story. Do

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you have a story of a bloodsucker? Well, this guy in Illinois back
in nineteen eighty nine allegedly did looklook at it. I'll give you two.
I give you two stories. Okay, it's quick ones. Around nineteen

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eighty nine, when Tim b wasfifteen and living in Naperville, he believes
he may have encountered two pacabras.I was at a friends. I was
drinking and carrying on when it becametime for me to walk home. My
walk was through a large dark fieldand then over a hill and down,

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then over the railroad tracks, thenup a hill again to my home.
I reached the tracks, now standingon them, I was paralyzed with what
I saw looking directly into my eyes. A demon As I called. It
was a quarter of the way upthe hill in front of me in some

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brush, about twenty feet from thepath I took. It was bald,
with huge eyes, but three tofour feet tall, with hands having claws.
I saw no other features. Iwas so scared. It took everything

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I had to just run. Ihave never run so fast in my life.
I ran by him up the hill, never once looking back. That

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was the time tim Bee saw askunk for the first time. No,
I won't mock it. Okay,we know that people see things. I've
seen some pretty weird stuff in mylife that I can't explain. I'm not
gonna lie to you, but certainlyit won't attribute it to anything more than

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a neurological phenomenon until I know otherwise, that's for sure. One nine in
two thousand, Mary C and afriend were driving down a road that they
had traveled many times before. It'stime to cut this mustache. Mm hmm.

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It was mostly dark except for acouple of lights. The guide of
the way, Mary said, tothe side of this street is a fairly
wooded area with an open sewer lineabout a mile away. As they reached
the end of the street, Mary'sattention was drawn by a pair of glowing
eyes. At first, she naturallyassumed it was a dogg or cat,

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of which commonly reflect brightly in headlights. The eyes were staring out of a
hollowed out tree that Mary knew sincechildhood. Then something unexpected happened as we
approached the tree, Mary said,whatever it was began hop began to hop

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across the street like a kangaroo,but extremely fast. Unfortunately, Mary's friend
didn't see the unusual sight, soMary shrugged it off as possibly an injured
dog. She might have forgotten aboutthe incident had she not seen the creature

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again. A few nights later,we were headed for that same street again
on our way to our friend's house. Lo and behold the creature quote unquote
came from the same tree and rapidlydarted past the car. Only time we
both saw it, and it hadback legs like a kangaroo, even the

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four legs were up like a kangaroo. This thing was no kangaroo, she
says. It had a snout resemblingan anteater's in very red eyes gleaming in
the light. As it crossed thestreet. It stared at the car probably

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in fear, seeing as how itran last it ran, seeing as how
it ran the last time I sawthe car. It was hairy like a
rat, and it stood up threeto four feet high as it hopped.
I don't know what it was,but I have never seen any animal around

(01:24:57):
here. It looked like it,and neither had my friend. You know.
Part of that story I like wasthe by a pair of glowing eyes

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as she naturally assumed it was adog cat. I started hollowing out trees
childishod sometimes expected blah blah, blahblah. As we approached the tree,
Mary said, whatever it was beganto hop across the street like a kangaroo,
but extremely fast. Who remembers myweird frog man vision on the boat.
Remember, I didn't see that thingwith my eyes open. I saw
it when the eyes closed. Whateverthat means literally directional. I had my

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eyes closed, and I turned myhead this way, and I could see
it. If I turned my headthis way, I couldn't see it.
I turn my head this way,I couldn't see it. I could see
it in this direction. For somereason, when my eyes clobes, I
could see it. When the eyesclosed. Whatever that means I've never had
a single visual experience like that inmy entire life. I probably never will
again. I've never seen anything likethat in my entire life. I cannot
see things in my mind's eye likethat. That's not how my brain works.

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If it's how other people's brain works, boy, they must have a
hard time dealing with life, seeingas if they closed their eyes to blink
for a second. There's a weird, giant, demonic looking frog man with
glowing eyes staring at you with legslike a frog, or I don't know,
some sort of weird mutated kangaroo whoremembers my little drawings I submitted to

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the show when that happened, myown show. Of course, that's just
my thing. But it had glowingeyes and the skirt what headlights could have
been shining off this thing? Myeyes were closed. This thing was not
a physical being. I was ina locked, little, blacked out room
on my boat. I just assumedit's some sort of neurological phenomenon or psychological

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phenomena happens right before you fall asleep, except, of course, I had
just sat down literally said I'm gonnago meditate. I just sat down before
I closed my eyes. I couldn'tstart meditating because of this thing. I
mean I kind of start trying to, but I kept looking for this led
light, this red led. Ikept opening my eyes, mean, like

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where was this light shining at mefrom? I could see what my eyes
closed. You know when you lookat a bright light and then you close
your eyes quickly, you can kindof still see a mark or like,
you know where that thing kind ofhits you right in the eye. And
that's what it was like. AndI just couldn't find where it was coming
from. And then I had thiscrazy weird sighting. I mean, could
people be confusing they're weird, youknow, altered state meditative like sightings.

(01:27:40):
It was something real in real life, like they're just walking through the woods
or walking and they get hypnotized lookingat the road, looking at this concrete
or a path and walking and justletting it think. You know, look
how people are in their car inthe shower. I loved those references,
and I'll admit it, Listen,I don't care what anyone says. I
still have appreciation for a lot ofworks out there, people that maybe some

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others have disregarded for thinking they've goneoff in the La la land or something.
But nonetheless, Grant Cameron Adsta Barnaby'sbook Contact Modalities, something's in there
I think are dead on. Somethings in there I think are very questionable
in terms of like, you know, what the people actually believed when they
came up with these things. Butnevertheless, I think they nailed it when
they talk about these kind of situationsyou can put yourself in and not even

(01:28:27):
realize it, and you're like hypnotizingyourself. And of course that's been said
by other people in medical literature,but they put it in a nice way
for people in this field who areinterested to look at it. You know,
like literally you all have experienced that, I can guarantee it. Who
has ever had a conversation in theshower? Not a conversation, but almost
like relives a memory well enough thatyou might even verbally answer aloud. Or

(01:28:53):
driving in a car, have youbeen by yourself in a car? Or
even has the carbon quiet or thehum of the road, the rhythmic like
hum of the car on the roadmixed with the visual of like oftentimes that
blurry like concrete or something going alongfast. Have you ever found yourself thinking
of things that somehow just generate.It isn't like you're thinking about them beforehand.

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They just generate to the point whereyou may literally have to shake off
the memory, so to speak.Has anyone ever experienced this? I know
enough people do. They've done testsin psychology. Plenty of people mentioned the
fact, Yeah, that's weird.When I am in the shower, I
do get in fights with my oldex wife from twenty five years ago.
Shut up, Dorothy, it wasone time, all right, I got

(01:29:42):
arrested at a truck stop. Nevermind, I'm sure you know what I'm
referring to, even if you can'tadmit it to yourself. But I believe
that phenomenon happens in the dense bush, the dense forest, the dense jungle
swamp. I believe that phenomena canhappen. And I don't go on to

(01:30:03):
explain what the phenomenon, and Idon't dare to even try. I just
know that it feels like something suddenlyI don't know, it's like it's almost
like it's almost like in this moment, something resets the VR thing that is
you and your interim whatever. Idon't the first time I like to share

(01:30:30):
this of course is but the firsttime I used the VR had said,
it gave me this super weird feelinglike, oh my gosh, like this
that's what I've kind of felt likemy entire life. Now that in the
psychological world would probably be a conditionto me, it felt remarkably similar.

(01:30:54):
I was like, God, amI like detached for myself? Or something
like? What is this? Likeit? I even could visualize things that
I couldn't before after using, Like, for instance, if someone was to
say, in a meditative state ortrying to get into some sort of meditative
state, try try these protocols,try the way I do it, and
envision yourself. That's impossible for me. Now you're then they're saying, like,

(01:31:15):
envision yourself sitting on a bed orsomething, or envision envision yourself coming
out of their own top of yourhead and looking down at yourself. Impossible,
impossible, impossible. I can't seemany visions like that in my brain
doesn't work like that. And I'vesaid that on the show a million times.
But there was one time I rememberI played the free game that came
with the VR headset, Quest VR. What is it called? That?

(01:31:39):
Quest? Two from What Quest twoV. I don't know what it's called,
but I played this the free gamethat came with it, And I've
said this a lot of times.I apologize, but what is it called?
Echo? It's like a it's avery what's that book Enders game?
It's a very Enders game like gamewhere you're like kind of floating around in

(01:31:59):
a G zero G space and youcan throw this disc to score goals.
It's mostly just children to play it, so you gotta mute the thing because
it's just kids screaming their heads offthe entire time. But the first time
I played that and I got tosee my own legs and stuff, not
my e legs, but my character'slegs in a weightless environment. The first
time I used like the ISS simulator, the first time I went on a

(01:32:20):
spacewalk in VR, it was like, Holy cow. Even though I've been
playing video games my entire life,this adds a new Just putting the TVs
right on your eyeballs adds a newlayer of confusion for the brain. Where
you see that, it's like there'ssomething that's sunk up real well with the

(01:32:41):
inside and the outside, and everyonce in a while that doesn't go so
good, and things happen, Yousee things, you're on the edge,
you're lucid dreaming, you whatever.The executive function is about to shut off
and you're seeing the very last bitsof the system and flashes of strangel like
whatever it is, something is goingon there that's either phenomenal that I'm sure
humans are misinterpreting because I don't seethings like that. But after seeing,

(01:33:04):
after using the VR, I startedto kind of recognize this weird detached feeling,
like, you know, the persontalking to you right now is not
the person you're seeing. The persontalking to you right now is of course
this you know meat suit that protectthat thing. And it took VR for

(01:33:30):
me to feel that way. Idon't know how to explain that, but
it feels like it's oftentimes related tothe subjects so bad because when you put
yourself in those hypnotic, rhythmic likesituations, especially if you try like to
go deliberately try to do it,go to like a float, or spend
like a few weeks deliberately trying tomeditate or laying down super comfortable where like

(01:33:51):
you might even fall asleep. Wow, it's like a huge be I'm looking
at a bee out the window throughthe kitchen, and it's massive a bee.
Right now, they're kind of allaway, but that's the biggest be
I've seen a long time. Holynikes. But when you when you start
trying to force these hallucinations, thesevisions, these weird things, they do

(01:34:12):
not come the way you want,which I think is another interesting factor.
You know, like I could givea shit less about cryptids, to be
honest with you, some of thesethings are interesting to me, but like,
especially like cryptids today, it's notmy I don't care like I hate
them. I just like I findit fascinating. I love to talk about
them, but like they're not Iguess love to talk about ma any sense
here, but there's not my thing. I don't necessarily put a lot of

(01:34:34):
weight into them, even though Ihave had strange sightings. But I don't
really like the cryptid community in thesense that some some cryptied people that talk
about these things literally believe these thingsare literally physically out there all over the
place, like living in trees,living in swamps, living on hills living.
Maybe they are. I just I'vespent so much time away from people,

(01:34:56):
so I mean, I know I'mbeing you know, that's just my
perspective, and I'm being extremely subjectivein the matter. But I mean,
I literally spend so much time inthe wilderness and on the open ocean,
by myself, in the Great Lakes, by myself going down rivers, by
myself traveling in open plains at night, by myself going very slow. You
know, it's like I just cannot, for the life may believe that there

(01:35:20):
is an endless, physical, endlesssupply of literal physical beings walking around that
are able to reproduce, and wecan't see them. Yeah, we can
see every other goddamn thing. That'stough for me to believe. Maybe I'm
wrong, though again, maybe thesethings are better than I am. Rock

(01:35:44):
guesting. Well, be stop spyto listen. I saved to be not
too long ago. I took picturesof it. The little guy did not
want to fly, but I saved. Anyways. I like bumblebees, and
I like when they wiggle their butts. Okay, but the cooler thing here

(01:36:09):
is we're making it to that twohour mark. Oh my god, are
we going to do it? Arewe gonna do it? There's a central
road. Let's go back to PlanetEarth for a seconds, since we're gonna
talk about some of these legends andwhatnot, or these these actual beings that
may be confused for something like James'James Fox's VI Regen Brazil. You know,

(01:36:30):
probably a homeless person covered in hisown filth, with pink eye in
saying insane things and squatting against thewall was witnessed. But it's been claimed
it's an alien either way. Youknow, all the people said, no,
they saw cho chicicabra, that's whatwhat is it called cocha cabra,

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and that's why they said. Theycalled it a demon or something. They
called it diablo or something. That'swhy the first reaction was that, because
that's what it looked like and itwas not some homeless guy whatever. But
I've heard the debate. I personallyleaned towards the girls misidentified it, and
there's too many inaccuracies, especially JamesFox basically flat out lying by omitting a

(01:37:15):
ton of information, allowing family membersto lie as well, which is not
fair because that's not what the evidentshows either way. Moving on, let's
go back to Google Earth there fora second and head over to Puerto Rico.
I shouldn't have done that. Let'smove over here to Puerto Rico.
Real quick, dude, do doWe're going over to Puerto Rico. Here

(01:37:40):
we go over to Puerto Rico.Here, you see where we are on
the earth, right, you knowwhere Puerto Rico is, right, dude,
due follow in those trade wind chains. Here we are Puerto Rico.
We're going to go to the cityof Ponce. There's a few highways that

(01:38:00):
leave northern Ponce, and what arethose highways called? Let's look real quick,
what's this one? What the hellroad is that? What the hell?
Ain't gonna tell me what road itis? Okay, I apologize.

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I'm looking for Highway ten out ofnorthern Ponce here, which has some of
the highest concentration of Cooper Cobra sightingsin the entire world by some of the
people and the descendants of the uhthat ain't right. Hold on their name,

(01:38:50):
I believe is China. Hold onChina. The Taina people, okay,
the Taiana people, all right,Jesus Christ. The China people,

(01:39:14):
the descendants of the tribes allegedly runinto these demons all the time out there,
and so we're gonna go take alook at this highway north of here.
But just like when looking at someof the folklore and myths on Folklore
Friday, it's Randrican looking into thePacific Northwest people and seeing like some of
their stories and how it's connected tosome sort of scientific field in some way,
at least not connected, but itmatches in some way some things.

(01:39:39):
I found that this route into thisarea was filled with some of the craziest
or or not craziest, but mostinteresting historical record for some of the original
people that lived in the Caribbean ispretty sick. The Chaya people on this
route as they contributed like forty plusmiles from north of Ponce to the Arikabo

(01:40:02):
Arikabo Arikabo. I don't want tosay that name. But where we're at
here, where's that name? Aboutforty miles it says, yeah, right
here there's the city, so soacross the entire midland of the island,
through the through the mountains and stuff. But looking at high I'm trying to

(01:40:24):
find Highway ten. Here. Herewe go north, there's Ponce. Okay,
Highway ten's got to be right here, I think, yes, Okay.
This route through the mountains is consideredthe most active place for that runs

(01:40:45):
alongside this the trail, the mostactive place for the Kucha cabra in the
area, with constant reports of animalsbeing attacked. H give me a second,
riccon we were back ricon, Sorryabout that? You know that?

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Did anyone just notice that I saidwhen the animal attacking their animals? Also
the dogs went crazy right at thatvery moment. Anyways, I was looking
through a lot of the cases there, and since there's so many, I
just was kind of you know,I've read. I was reading the stories
and they're so similar to so manyother Kuta kabra stories that you know,
what I read to you that's happeningallegedly or what people are witnessing in North

(01:42:26):
America, in the southern areas ofNorth America and throughout South America are so
similar that I don't need to sharewith you the stories of these people,
but I will share with you alittle bit of other information about calling this
a uh the vampireic, the vampiicin ghoul like creatures that they've claimed lived
that lived alongside of them allegedly inthis Island of Enchantment. Long before there

(01:42:54):
was a kuchacabra story, on theinternational stage. The the Tian No believed
whoopia or spirits of the dead.These shape shifters that would take on the
form of multiple animals would show upand attack you, uh and and your
and your and your animals. Mostlikely they would they would attack your people

(01:43:21):
in your land. Uh, peoplethat your animals and and people that were
alone and isolated, obviously creating storiesof don't go into the woods alone without
being protected, always beyond guard,you know. But oftentimes the animals or
whatever these things were kind of followedalong with what some typical predation or scavenger
like action might be. You know, like people don't realize oftentimes that if

(01:43:45):
they're spotted by a mountain lion inNorth America, a big mountain lion like
the size you know, I peoplethink I'm joking. Go look it up
on YouTube. Some of these mountainlines northwest get huge and they can sneak
up on people and see that it'stoo many people and a dog, so
they just go away. And theynoticed the throughout the years these people were

(01:44:12):
watching these these stories evolve essentially thatthis thing would choose oftentimes not to attack
if too many people are around,which sounds almost like something very common,
like they were dealing with some sortof real predation of some real animal,
but it would would attack their animalsif they were isolated alone or in the
woods whatever along this Highway ten,well before it was Highway ten, of

(01:44:32):
course, out of this northern pondsarea of Puerto Rico, deep into the
mountains and the right across here,what's this? What are we looking at
here? Coffee plantation? Okay,but here's a few things here. They're

(01:44:59):
descend of the arrow Ac speaking communitiesin South America, and they share some
of the very similar creation stories andmyths and legends that that also involved demonic
like creatures. If you know anythingabout the you know, first peoples of
South America and North America, theyoften had bad you know, the bad
spirit entities were personified through you know, demonic like creatures once in a while,

(01:45:20):
or like you know, amalgamation ofeverything in the woods. For Christs,
it's the whole entire forest became thingspart tree, part lion, part
snake, part fish. Everyone knowsthe story about the part line pack tree,
part fake, part fish anyways,But there have been major efforts to

(01:45:43):
promote the tribal areas between Uh ponsin uh in Uh the northern city,
because it's so much of it hasbeen lost to to western you know,
occupation, colonization, whatever you wantto call it, wherever you're from,
whatever your flavor the Uh. Butthe people, of course say that these
oral traditions don't just live on becausethey are memories of the old. They

(01:46:05):
still happen. We're still encountering thesebeings that live beside us. Allegedly,
one most common being that is beingconfused for the Cucha cabra by the outsiders
to come to film on this fortymile stretch of path that goes alongside Highway
ten. These people still occupy todayis they're actually seeing what they call the

(01:46:28):
hoopia. The hoopia is not theCucha cabra. The hoopia is a shape
shifting spirit who can take the formof not just terrifying animals in nature,
but also you're dead ancestors and relativesor enemies. Hoopia likes to take the
foremost common of course, though,of owls and bats and a humanoid looks

(01:46:55):
like a human, essentially the mostfamou s hoop you. It was popularized
in the nineteen ninety novel Hold honestly, Oop, sorry, I almost read

(01:47:48):
said something I didn't mean to saybecause I was reading the wrong notes,
and uh, it sounds a heckof a lot like hey actually build right,
And that's exactly right. I wastrying to read the you know,
the most famous of the alleged hoopialike things that anyone could say, even

(01:48:09):
as remotely like it is an owllike critter, almost humanoid like thing behind
glowing eyes, popularized by John Keeland others. When it comes as about
Mothman and some of the people thatare you know, you have to understand
this is not like oftentimes direct descendantsof people representing the information from that culture.

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So I'm not positive about everything I'mreading you right now, because it
is on a few different websites verysimilar. But they are suggesting that you
could go run into one of thesemothman like critters, these Hoopiah's Hoopia's shape
shifting owl bat human thing if yougo walking down this road. But they
don't suggest to do it alone,because it tends to only go after or

(01:48:55):
show itself to people when they're alonewalking. But during two thousand it was
fifteen Institute of Puerto Rican Culture andconservationists, culture and culture and conservationists when

(01:49:19):
basically creating some sort of corridor forthe Giano narrative, they discovered all these
ancient artifacts. So one of thethings the locals are asking you is if
you go down there to look formothman one of these beings like coopercabra that
are constantly reported from the area bythe locals, please do them a favor
and actually stop and see the ancientsites, carving's, petroglyphs, and mounds

(01:49:44):
that were made along the way andover the forty plus miles of evidence that
the people that were there, youknow, left, you know, left
their record and they're still there tosome degree. But I guess I mean
in general that there were different peoplethat there at a time, and so
for all the people that are goingto see a mothman like critter or coop

(01:50:06):
of cabra like critter running through thewoods, I suggest that you also pay
a visit to the Juyaya region inthe Kuwana Ceremonial Indigenous Heritage Center along the
way, because it shows that alot of people have discovered some amazing artifacts
while hacking their way through some ofthe denser parts of these areas looking for

(01:50:29):
the elusive hoop yach critters that livethere. They've discovered mass they've discovered stone
structures, they've discovered carvings and moundsand all types of crazy stuff, including
evidence that the people that live therewere creating all types of crazy baked goods
back in the day. So whoevercame up with the empanada, they think
they might have come from right therein your face, Spaniards. Great series,

(01:50:59):
the Twin Peak, except the endingdrove me crazy. But whatever,
I'll take it for what it was. But I don't know. I loved
it, but it was just weirdestthe ending like dry. The ending any
ending that like it feels like theydon't know how to end. It drives
me nuts. That's why Shandrikan drivesme nuts. I never know how to
close. But if you're interested inthese Cooper Cabbra like legends and stuff and

(01:51:21):
you want you ever in Puerto Rico, you can go to Highway ten north
of Ponds between what is it AlbertCorey, I can't remember, I don't
know to say the name of thatplace and go visit some of these ancient
sites that allegedly these things have justkind of appeared around quite frequently. But
you also have to take and take, you know, remind yourself that people

(01:51:43):
today holding rifles, wearing a Disneyt shirt and shorts and muck boots or
whatever and just got back off theirfour wheeler that are tribal people of like
say, you know, Brazil orsomething, and they're getting harassed by like
goblins or something. And that's likejust being reported. And when investigative journalists
and other people look into their claims, they find that they're calling something that

(01:52:04):
we wouldn't call that, right.We'd say it's some dickhead flying around on
a fucking hoverboard with a loudspeaker andshooting paintballs and stuff at people, throwing
gas bombs. And the lumber companieshave or have in the mining companies have
so much extreme money they can takesuch a ridiculous, you know, attempt

(01:52:28):
at scaring the shit out of thesepeople off their land, which is a
common problem. And if you don'tknow what I'm talking about, please look
at it. We were just talkingabout this like six months ago, remember
people saying these flying goblins are scaringtribal. Tribal people in South America were
having a real life case of alienslanding or something. So we have all
these alien podcasts doing all these investigationsof what was going down in South American?

(01:52:49):
What did we see? What dowe see? We see people that
live amongst us right now share theplanet with us, that have a very
different interpretation, at least the onesthat are gaining a have a very different
interpretation of what they're experiencing. Ibet maybe one person in that tribe was
gonna be it was gonna say somethinglike, it's these mother efforts from the
goddamn lumber company that two years ago, you know, through tear gas,

(01:53:15):
tear gas at us, dressed likeyou know, Quasi Moto and uh Bigfoot.
I don't know, it's you know, it's it's tough, And now
they're doing a different way either way. Recon do me a massive favorite that
liking. Subscribe, YadA, YadA, you know the deal, you know
the deal. Do your part.Please keep Strange Recon growing. We haven't.

(01:53:41):
We stopped growing a long time ago, and I'm trying to invest your
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But we literally stopped growing. Soif that's just something, that's just
the wall we need, we needto adjust our business model. Do we
not? Quite a little bit ora lot? And that's fine with me.
I did lose a ton of peoplewhen I stopped kind of going over

(01:54:03):
some of the more metaphysical stuff withthis. I mean, I've got the
emails and the messages and your reviewsand all that kod stuff, all the
people that came out from Grant Cameron'schannel that absolutely hate my guts. Now,
I mean, I'm sorry. Idon't have to tell you. I
stay true to myself, even thoughsometimes I can be a dick. I
apologize, but we did stop growing, and I have no problem with justin

(01:54:23):
the show to keep us alive.Whatever. So tell me what you want
to see, tell me what youwant me to cover. Please email me
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And of course, if you havesome information, if you have some evidence,
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(01:54:46):
better than that. Help support theshow, Help keep just growing. We
need to grow. We have hita wall. Sometimes that's just life.
It was suspicious that that wall stoppedgoing up and down about ten subscribes a
day the second I called it out. Wasn't that weird? Like, who's
doing it? If someone was?I mean, that's very strange. I

(01:55:08):
literally called it out one episode andthen it just stopped. But every day
ten subscribers new, ten down,ten five up. It'sat five down,
seven up, seven down all freakingday long. Get notifications and stuff on
YouTube. Get out of my room. Lendend guns, boys and girls.

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Remember this is the show and we'renot going to change except we have to
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You got to click the If youwant to buy some paranormal tire and stuff,
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out over there. But other thanthat, you know the deal. Legend
gents, boys and girls look forthings they actually are versus how they appear
to be. Look for things,are they actually verus how they appear to
be? And keep it weird andkeep your third I feel. Also this

(01:57:16):
week, at California newspaper revealed thatO. J. Simpson was awarded custody
of his children mainly because a courtordered psychological test showed that he is a
loving father. It should be noted, however, that the same test also
showed that he was a loving husband.
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