UFO HUMP DAY - TwitX, The Hills, Jacobs 25OCT23 - Strange Recon Radio

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What's going on Recon. Good morningwherever you're at in this world. I
hope you're well. It's yours truly, Jeff White Pear Kingsbury. Welcome back
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it's free for you, but notfor me, Ladies and gents, boys
and girls. On today's episode ofStrange Recon, recovering a little bit of
David Grush and his predicament he's in, We're gonna go over a little bit
of some new revelations of Betty Hillthanks to Jack Jack Brewer over expanding front
tiers. I mean, that's thename of it. My bad. I

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apologize if I mess up the nameof the block and these things suck.
And then we're gon We're gonna talka little bit about Robert Jacobs again,
that old Vanderberg case. To finishoff, like we said we're gonna do
last week, I'm just gonna toucha little bit left of the investigation through
this blog and we'll get on withour days here. You know, I

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hope you're well out there in theworld. I'm on the YouTube side.
Thank you for being here already.Let's get this episode underway. Thank you
for being here. Let's get iton. What's going on, my friends?

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I hope you're well. It isif you're wondering what my attire is.
We haven't turned the heat on yetin Massachusetts because you know, it's
like basically seventy degrees and in thedaytime and then at the night. In
the nighttime is a bomble snowman walkingaround. People are making snow angels.
It's insanely cold. Anyways, it'sstill cold, so I've got my gear

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on. I apologize, ladies andgents. We've got a doozy for you.
Not so much. It's gonna it'snot gonna get in depth or any
major revelations out there, of course. Uh you know how I feel about
a few of these things. ButI will say, in typical UFO fashion,
you don't even have to look forthe absurdity to write what's going on.

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You don't need to look for it. It's there, and it's there
already. You all know David Grush, the guy in the center of that
congressional hearing that took place a fewmonths back. Now, I believe he
was there with David sex fravor inGrush, I mean in Ryan Graves of
Americans or Safe Aerospace, very importantcompany. And you know that these folks

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were, you know, telling theirstories of all had their own different reason
why they were there to present aDavid Grush, of course, wasn't an
experience or quote unquote or a witnessto UFOs. He was of a person
that was allegedly told to investigate this, and well he found a bunch of
people that gave a bunch of reallydamning and high credentialed information allegedly are the

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line they love to use is beyondtheir credentials and the information was beyond reproach,
so they had to investigate it.Anyways. But mister Grush, now,
as you know, it's been overa year since his first time he
was interviewed for somewhat eight hours.I believe Jess Phillison and others help us
out there, go kick rocks,go follow on Twitter, and and everyone
else will contribute to that story.But you also have, you know,

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the the idea that he can't sharethe information because he and others from Congress
couldn't get into some sort of skiff. You know, I have the major
doubts about anything Tim Burchett says inregards to what is wrong with the situation,
because the guy will you know,trip himself and then turn around and

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like yell Obama or something. SoI'm not trying to you know, go
too hard, but so you knowI do, I'm not necessarily buying whole
intelligence community stepping in and interfering allthroughout the whole process, which he's basically
not. Basically he is flat outset. I'm talking about Representative Tim Burchett,

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but David Grush though allegedly now accordingto Senator Gillibrand. Gillibrand what's her
name, I don't know how it'stheir name. I never read King Arthur
or whatever it's called there, butI heard I heard that she says the
hold up right now for a Grushto come up there is that he wants

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them to pay for his or youknow what, he wants it to be
covered his flight, his hotel.I'm sure per diem for a meal or
something. If that's the actual holdupsand observeridiculous. I know you've already seen
a bunch of UFO shows already coverit, and that's why I'm not going

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to touch on it too long.But if that's the actual reason, it
would be just as absurd as allthe other reasons they've come up with our
ad hocs Slytherin like ways to getaround having to actually provide something to make,
you know, some clarity, bringsome clarity to the crazy ambiguous claims
they constantly make. And some ofthose claims are about who's interfering with all

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this? Well, is the theintelligence community. They've been messing with David
Grush's house sales, that's right,every time he thinks he's gonna get a
house to sell and get a littlecommission in swoops the CIA. Oh well,
I shouldn't have said CIA, butsome intelligence community in order to prevent

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the sale of a house for David, because that way he doesn't am getting
Am I going to deepeness kind oflearn how to be a proper gufologist.
The CIA hates real estate or somethinglike that. I'm trying to just figure
it a way to make sense ofthe ridiculous amounts of excuses you'll heal here

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all along the way. When itcomes to something as simple as just turning
on a microphone, turning on acamera and just saying it, remember when
the hero actually did something Instead,now people are born or do they just
get a job, and I'm ahero instantly? You were in the army,
guaranteed hero, You were a teacher. Hero. Hello, David Grush

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is a hero. Let's just faceit. I just feel it. There's
nothing I don't really have any evidenceto support that, or he's never really
done anything, of course, butthere's something inside me that when I look
at him right in his face,I see a hero. Also, what's

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the word hero? I mean?All right? Anyways, David Grush allegedly
can't fly to Washington to spill thebeans on the UFO thing, on what
whistleblowers have said in confirmation and otherthings, blah blah blah, and tell
these senators who are not on theseintelligence account committees or have a clearance,
so what what not to to hearany of this information regardless of the committee

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they're on, or the information can'tpass logistically speaking between a representative like David
Grush and these people because a combinationof a few things. I'm sure you
listen over at the Black Vault orsomeone else where. They've gone very analytically
into why exactly or what the claimsare that the that the problem, what
the problem is. But ultimately speaking, you know, deep down in your

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gut, and the most logical answeris it's just another excuse. Oftentimes,
when I think of things like situationsthat you could find similarity to, I
mean, this isn't and this isn'tan isolated scenario in the UFO field,
and I bet if we look relativelyquickly we could find other things and that

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other subjects that politicians cover in theircommittees or where they come from or which
district that elected them. They havepeople essentially saying there's a problem and then
also probably demanding that not demanding,but believing that they should they shouldn't be
paying for exposing a problem with thegovernor's paying. And at the same time,

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on the other side, some stafferor the congress person is just like,
you know, there's a good chancethis is a bunk. Since we
have heard from multiple people that alot of the things he's saying are completely
untrue or allegedly the things he's thathe's passed over. So why you know
what, you know what, I'mgoing to pull out of my pocket and

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go pay for this guy to showup and tell us some more, some
more stuff. I've heard people flockto. The reason why she's speaking like
this, Jili Brand senteror Jili Brandis because Gillibrand I'm sorry, it is
because people like Ken clipper Stein orStein or whatever from the Intercept has utterly

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convinced her with his own reverse propagandaor something. Again, it worked on
the senator that would have been apart of the conspiracy. That doesn't really
I don't really, Okay, I'lllet me try this again. She would
have been a part of the conspiracy. But yet the conspiracy that she's a
part of used propaganda to get herto make a decision that she didn't even

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know that she wanted to make,like some sort of coerce thing. Ome
on, Sorry, this is justlet me just check. Person who actually
want a disclosure is a part ofthe cover up with the cover up worked
on her, and she forgot therewas a cover up. The justification the

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ad hoc reasoning the inability to discern, you know, information being passed over
doesn't just happen on you know,the the public's level or the people interest
to this topic. It also happensup there and staffers in Congress, people
and senators as well. So wecan expect too that they're just as equally

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could be uh, you know risk, and they believe that maybe if if
they're wrong about this, it's goingto be a big embarrassment and whatnot,
and they funded the whole thing,and it's just another reason for taxpayers to
call them out for wasting time orwhatnot, or if they already know of
course that there is in fact tocover up and that they have can't really
take a can't really take a youknow, a really can't risk the idea

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of even drawing more attention towards it, and certainly not going to pay for
it themselves. I don't know,which would make a lot of sense.
But as we know, if therewas a cover up, but as we
know, we've done enough research overthe years, and you yourself and probably
witness a few things and done someinvestigating and found out, oh crap,
this wasn't as it necessarily appeared tobe you'll recognize that of course, this

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is all happening at a larger timeUAP. You know, all domain stuff
all being flung together, so soyou know they have to have like their
first resolution office for an all domainproblem and things that you have it you
have, you have. The UAPmovement happened the same time b l os
EV toll systems are exploding around theworld, and the FAA, like every

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other major controller of the airspace forsocilium regulation and innovation, of course has
to do something about it. Thesethings are coming, they're here, they've
been here for a long time.The military's adam forever and the word sentient
conscious non human intelligence AI materials,all that stuff falls right under everything that

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also happened at the exact same moment, parallel twin like action of drones and
balloons and things like that. Soit's it would make more sense to me
that she recognizes the UAP movement asa whole is are outweighed on the scale
of a real issue, the emergenceof I mean, I don't want to

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see the emergency. The advent ofthese things is nowhere near today. But
obviously you recognize that a very powerfulnation is using spy balloons and spies with
toy drones to go spy, andI'll do all types of stuff. You
obviously know the potential hazard and dangersof drones cause and things like that,
and the intelligence that could be gathered, the weapons that could be launched off
balloons. You know about all that. You know why they were saying that

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all at this time, So itwould make far more sense than Jilli Brenn.
Is that how we're saying your name? I don't know. Sees it
as being almost absurd to pursue theDavid Grush side of things when there was
a fravor in a graves there whichgave balance to the actual UAP issue of
situational awareness all domain. Everyone's onthe same thing, so we have no

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chance we're going to run into anadversary or a missile test or a weapons
tested. You know, you haveyou have a person that stresses constantly that
between the runway in twenty five tothirty thousand feet there is a NonStop hazards.
They got feathers or they have thedrones, you know, and these

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things need to be accounted for.What do you know the FA passes.
I'm not because of him. Becausebut during that same time, taking advantage
of that of that momentum, theFA passes. All new drones over a
certain weight have to have a digitalID tag. A drone that can take
down a freaking single seat F thirtyfive are single engine F thirty five or
something needs to have a digital IDso we can see who did it.

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An F thirty five can probably handletaking a smaller drone. I don't know
where though, but good God forbid, don't test that. Jesus Christ.
I don't know why I said thataloud, But the fact of the matter
is that you know that the threatsthat are posed by drones that can be
sold off the shelf have in beenat least not the threat has been stopped

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because your freedom isn't gone of beingable to fly a toy like that or
have a hobby like that. Butyou can't do things in secret anymore if
that was your thing. I don'tknow if you're weird of it, but
if you can't, like, youcan't just go and do whatever you want
with a drone like your drone's positionwill be tracked by everyone. Now,
if you fly a drone near anairfield, that it's illegal to fly within

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like five miles of or whatever youare. It's the same thing with shining
a laser as an add an airplaneand wondering how the theft did the police
get here so fast? And theyknow how to locate you. They have
GPS and the sky too, theycan easily mark a target where you came
from. But the point is,like the all of these systems that have
been around for long enough, Imean, toy aircraft have been around since

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I don't know, ancient Greece,and now toy aircraft over a certain wait
have to be digitally tagged at thesame time. Come on, you people
hate quod incidence right in this field. You think it's like a it's like
something else going on. So comeon, is that a quod incidence or
is it a lie? Why wouldJillibrand want to keep involving herself with this

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story on the on this aspect ofit. If it's only this little tiny
group of people, zell it likepeople that are being like, no,
we know you have it, giveit a us. It's not like the
masses are flocking to their politicians andbeing like poooo, who who do you

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think is the worst politician on theplanet right now, Senator Jilibrand, And
she says, I don't know,she names some lady or some guy,
and then you go, I'm gonnago on a campaign and raise millions of
dollars for that individual unless you unlessyou make with the guy. God damn
alien bodies, lady. But what'sthe real problem that actually has to be
mitigated that they can affect change andvery quickly that has been worked done now

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for what it looks like seven tofifty seven to like ten years. We
know the Air Force is a droneawareness thing which was a flop and they
went away with it right away.What happened before the ttsa thing before all
that. So it's just it's twoquod incidental. And I think Jillibrand is
honestly like, yeah, well,we'll pursue it if it comes up with
whatever. But ultimately speaking, it'sall these fantastical stories mixed with you know,

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are coming from people that seemingly sofar we don't know about the alleged
forty witnesses. We know about acouple of them. We know some of
them are going to be part ofthat group that are absolutely you know,
I wouldn't trust at all, period. I don't care what they what they're
claiming to know, not at all, how drastic or how big the claim
is. They literally have spent decadesmisleading the public or they themselves happily being

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misled, so it led to morefunding. I'm not interested in it.
So the other ones, though,I would. I'd like to see what
they have to say and where arethe pointing But other than that, I
mean, we already know by ourselves. It's no secret to you what the
UAP topic was about. So youknow, David Grush not having the funding
like seven hundred dollars or whatever itis to go to to go to d
C for a day or the night. You know, DC, that city

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of luxury. Everyone from DC,you know, I love you. I'll
be torn through your city someday.I'm just kidding. I stay on the
outer loop. I'm just kidding.I had great experiences there. One time
in d C. I had topull over somewhere my first time driving through

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that. I was driving a FortBenning and I was eighteen years old,
and I had no idea where Iwas, And I pulled over to ask
a woman who was fixing a lawnmower. How to get back on the highway.
You know, there wasn't what youdidn't ever not everyone had GPS,
you know, And the lady tellsme. Then she comes over and goes,

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honey, She like leans to thecouch and goes, honey, you
should just get on the highway assoon as possible. Don't stop again.
I don't know if you know whereyou're at, just like that. And
I was like so naive, Likewhat do you mean? This place looks
beautiful green grass and everything turns outI was in a heavily gang ganged up
neighborhood and I definitely would have beenan easy target. Anyways, No,

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any and you can't thank you forasking. I don't know what you're doing
with it. You're taking screenshots onthe other side of me over here.
You're sending me pictures with clouds withfaces in it. So far, you're
literally hitting every bullet point of myold buddy. So I'm not gonna be
sending you any photos of me whenI'm younger, so you can do some

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generative imagery or something or that.Now I know what you're up to.
Anyways, I just think the Gilibrandstory is kind of is kind of the
uh, it's kind of the epitomeof where we're at with this field right
now, Like that you know itneither then neither the Senate or this committee

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that would allegedly be supremely interested orwould you would think be would not allegedly
but you would think would be supremelyinterested in in you know, like you
know hearing this, you know thisthis truth teller show up and pass along
this like bomb drop information to thepublic. They're like, what's the hold

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up to the rest of us?We're like, well, they've had a
year to investigate this stuff mostly,So what is that exactly that he can
say that he wasn't allowed to saybefore? Is it just the News Nation
stuff that he said he had saidbefore? Like what's the eight hours of
twelve hours time spent interviewed so far? David Grush, you know, that
story just seems so weird to me, and and so I don't know,

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I just I find that there'd beplenty of reason to kind of be confused
about all of it. But oneof the one thing is for sure,
the stories and the vetted cases thatthese things originate from them awful. Like
the same kind of concept Alexandro theAlezando story. I mean, can you

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think of Lou Elizondo and what wefirst learned about him when he first came
out, and all these events thathe attended, all these you know,
lectures that he gave and little clipsthat people posted, and where I mean
there's people that download and saved allthese archives of everything Lou was ever said
at anything, ever meeting with him, having cameras going on literally and these
people are like, and you know, the story comes out that this guy

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joins this crew of people working onthis super phantom like you know whatever,
also trying to gain access to thespecial access. It's like it's like he's
handed a bunch of vetted cases thatall look super clear and clean cut investstigations
that happened what before he got there, And so once again, like the

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story sounds so goddamn cyclical and repetitivein the terms of this new fresh take,
I believe anyone that is you know, has some has a clearance or
whatever in credentials and is getting thetruth out for it. It's like it's
it's very strange how similar it seems, and how of course that you know
it hasn't. It hasn't panned outto be anything. I mean, I

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just I constantly get frustrated. Ieven waste my time thinking about the whole
lou and Christopher Mellen thing and theTTSA thing at that time, because of
course they had their chance and theyfreaking blew it. Now, I'm not
saying that that there's not things happening. You cannot look at people in the
government saying the words UAP constantly asa success. That is not what was

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claimed. That was not the action, that was the the x, That
was not the mission they wanted toexecute. That wasn't any of that.
So you know, you you know, you have to watch out the whole
this whole time. I mean,uh, I say, this show is
this morning's episode on the UFO Humpis going to be about, you know,
some Twitter stuff. Well what dowe have on Twitter? We have

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we have freaking uh rather be squiddingposting something that we've said enough on this
show that I think people should beable to uh, you know, understand
fully without really trying to find areason to defend them, which is the
constant standpoint of the position, andthat that reason is is uh is if

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you wanted people to truly believe whatyou're claiming, or what you're not claiming,
but claiming without claiming it. Thisambiguous, freaking work around, muddy
footprints in the floor. You can'tlock your doors. You're in danger.
They shut down our nukes. They'llkill you. They'll kill your animals,
they'll take your children. They'll suckyou into a mountain. They'll bring you
into enough of time, they'll bringyou to enohing dimension. The Navy can't

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stop them. The Navy's being chased, stocked, haunted, followed, abducted,
harassed, assaulted. We you know, we can't do anything about this,
and this is the biggest intelligence failureof the world has ever seen.
But I'm not saying it's aliens.Well, we don't know what it is,
can't you? China Camp in Russia? We looked. What you have
yourself is a person that you knowhas a chance to They had a chance

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to release evidence, but instead theyreleased a blurry bag of claiming bag of
something. The Navy or someone whoinvestigated these video clips can't tell exactly what
it is. But other people cameto a far easier answer or far you

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know, less ridiculous or radical answer, you know, relatively quickly, and
then you find out the people thatactually did the investigation are the ones that
are pushing this narrative the most alreadyfor years, it's like, oh no,
so I see what we did here. You know, we're taking,
we're emitting information, we're changing thecontent of the context, and we're having

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a wave of people with the samecredentials push the same cause, the same
origin story over and over and overagain, and and it's it's going absolutely
nowhere. I I don't really buythe grush thing. I'm sorry for people
that really hate on me for thatone. I'll give grush a chance when

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there's something of relative importance that Ithat are worth, you know, worth
actually looking into. My eyes areburning out of my head. Vision's not
as good, and so you cannow see that there's a huge wrinkle in
the green screen. But I'm gonnago with it. I'm sorry. My
eyes are literally burning off my face. And I couldn't keep that going,

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Okay, ladies and gentlemen without beingtoo big of a hater, without getting

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too emotional about the scenario. WhenI say emotional, of course, I
mean just start to sound like acrazy person to most of you. Although
I'm I'm from southeastern Massachusetts. AlthoughI've been banged on the head of quite
a few times, I don't Idon't see myself as being too drastically different
to any other type of major personalityout here. Of course, I'm a
little faster with the with the abruptabrupt behavior, but you know, like

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without going too hard on it,this story is mostly surrounded by guardians of
the story. These gatekeepers of thestory. The gatekeepers of the story are
individuals who have been essentially, whetherit's a sanctioned or legitimate mission or not,

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given the task to become an advocate, not a journalist, an advocate
for the story. People like RossCoulthart who just went on to to to
talk shit with Bryce Zabel about thatguy, the kid from the aerial school

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siting the kid he's thirty five yearsold or whatever, and uh and and
what do you know, Ross Coulthartactually said, he actually says, why
should we trust you if you're aloyal The dude, Ross Coulthart, if
you you're not aware, has justbeen just recently over the grush thing and
the PTSD thing has been caught onceagain in a lie. He was the

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one that raised awareness over his PTSD. The Clipperstine articles did not. The
preemptive strike suggesting that someone was usinghis PTSD is a reason to not believe
his claims. Is what Coltart did. He went on the biggest news channel
at the time to cover it.Ross Coltart, regardless if you're a superfan
or not, is liar, oneof the many liars. He's like a

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little guardian. Who do we haveon the other side of Coltart? I
mean of Grush, Who do weon the other side of who almost literally
sitting over his shoulder at the atthe hearing hearing quote unquote. These people
are not investigating their advocates and guardiansof what they see is a cash cow.

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This is my opinion, of course. But they have never presented anything
that is the bomb drop that theyfor months will say, there is this
bomb dropping, There's there's like thistechnology or this signal that Luelazando has he's
gonna make contact. There's this buildingso big that they had to put Ross

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Coltart's mother over it or something.I don't know what the story is there.
There is this, there is thisI shouldn't have said that. Second,
all right, that was immature,and forgive me for saying that.
One. I apologize. Ross Coltar'smother is probably innocent and nothing like her
son. They they, they they, you know, they these perpetuators.
Sort of. Then you find outsomething that is no different than like a

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Tom DeLong, you know, youknow, whatever fuel story about pyramids on
the Moon and in pyramids on Marscovering spaceships or whatever else, and they
could be lined up in lasers tomake the space ships come to Earth or
whatever the hell he's trandings. Idon't even know. But I really shouldn't
have said that thing about God.Anyways, that was immature. I am

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an immature idiot, so I guessthat's what's expected on me. But I
shouldn't have said that. I apologize. And I just think that when you're
an advocate and you play guardian tothese stories rather than actually trying to figure
out the stories, it's obvious.It's twenty twenty three. I know most
people don't know what's going on.I know most people don't have any experience

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like picking up on this stuff.I know most people aren't gonna instantly go
google the name of the author ofthis article, the journalists that allegedly investigated
this, or the alleged journalists thatallegedly investigated this, you have you they're
not they're not gonna check the sources. And it's just tough. We don't.

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Not all of us have time tostop and do this. Not all
stories are that interesting to us.It's when you start to echo the story
without doing that and whatever, youstart to find yourself in hot water.
And what do you know? Theyare a preemptive strike of lies, a
guardianship, a council, a liaison, a friend, an advocate, whatever

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you want to call them. Thatthey're certainly not trying to tell you the
truth. They're trying to keep thegrush story going. They don't know what
the truth is. That's not howa journalist. What are you talking about?
That's like a jury or something beinglike, well, we like the
way, No, I'm not,I'm not gonna do it. You you
know better. A journalist isn't someonewho who stands as someone's protector. They

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they they they stand. If someone'scriticizing a story, then that's one thing.
But if someone comes up with claimslike you know, alien bodies biologics,
crash saucers store, you know,the Italian UFO story, all this
stuff and it and it's uh,they find themselves being like, uh,
like the principal guardian for the figurerather than the story they've presented to the

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public. Are they being paid,are they a paid advocate? What are
they truly this guy's friend. Idon't understand. I don't get it,
because they would address every part ofthe story so everyone knew, but that
has never really taken place. Ican't think of a single time we've ever

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seen a presentation of the debunking orsomething of the critical and skeptical review critique
of the of Coultart's work on thesubject where he addresses every claim claim for
claim, he just goes on toget in like these weird wars with with
with Green Street or or call itsum up every single person that has the
critic criticism of the story as likea souno journalist or something, you know.

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I mean, it's just it's unfortunateand I don't really think that stories
like that have much weight since we'veseen this tactic in the past before,
and most people don't see that conman like movement and I'm not calling these
people con men, but I amsaying the procedures they use can be found
heavily adopted by con people con artists, you know, like to catch a

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con artist, like to like lookat just the basic stuff out there,
the books that are written and theworks that have been done and the documentaries
and see that these people do veryspecific things, you know, and they
a lot of them learn these thingsfrom like reading spy books and stuff and
all types of weird other things thathave information. Sigh, and you know,

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you know, direct action and thingsin them that you can see where
they've taken advantage. And course peoplelooking just whittle away all the criticism people,
get them off the main thing,and just create a group of the
vulnerable people that are so hyped upon the information you give, and it
generates so much momentum. It's sounlikely that there's going to be any major
debunking done of any value because you'vemarginalized the vigils criticizing the story to the

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point where no one seriously this personis clearly trying to work for the government
if they have something to say that'snegative against the guy who's claiming the government
is the bad guy. I findit suspicious that Ross Colthard and others have
made it their job to try toturn the public against the government in a
sector that honestly their only thing is. There's an ambiguous usage of terms that

(34:24):
make it seem like there's some sortof action being done and some sort of
cover story going on. There's tonsof prosaic evidence out there. I don't
know what the evidence is for thepaperwork on the side of them having alien
bodies and crash offices and stuff.We know that they use these stories in
these words and these terms as coverstories from many things. So you know

(34:50):
what do you know? We seepeople doing it again, except it's not
flying saucers this time it's UAP.It's this ambiguous morphing holographic like balloon bird
road and being shot down over Alaska. Still on the loose, Just in
case anyone from the NSA is listening, that Dick Cheney's one hot piece of

(35:14):
ass. Right, all right,moving on, norm let's stop here for
a second. I don't want totalk about Grush anymore. I think the
story is boring. But if Grushends up bringing these whistleblowers for the line
looks crazy, like, we havewhistleblower protection for a limited time, but

(35:35):
if they whistleblow like on YouTube orgo on the news or something like that,
we're gonna be angry. Meanwhile,Grush goes on the news and says
this long spiel about freaking dragons andbodies and you know, kweefs or whatever.
It's just it's just the most contradicted, uh, you know, contradicting,
uh, contradiction in the in theuh truth game. I don't know

(36:02):
what I'm saying. I'll shut uphere. I started reading the chats and
started really the train of thought Ihad. All right, let's move on.
I first I want to do afterthat, of course, is bring
raise some attention for a show Iwas going to be a part of,
but I found myself too busy andand I I apologize for that, but
give it a chance. I'm listeningto episode one right now. They have
eleven subscribers. After I say this, I'd appreciate it if they have more

(36:27):
subscribers than that. Go check outJeff Knox, Lewis comic, Kaitanok sorry
and uh and uh Rachel Nelson orRachel Nevada, I'm not sure. Yeah,
Rachel Nelson. Sorry of us,we'll say your name, but you
say it in the chat, soI'm gonna say Rachel wils But go check
that out. It's a it's anew thing to unwine with educational put you

(36:50):
back on your feet when it comesto some of these cases that you that
a lot of us thought were,you know, like just like this absolute
nail in the coffin thing and uhand of course, as the name goes,
it's the UFO Detox Hour, andthey'll give you a little bit too
actually unlined on something I can't.I try to give you the information to
do that. But I'm like likethat old time, so I can understand
that you don't find me calming.That's never been said about me in the

(37:14):
world by anyone in the world,you know, not calming. I'm gonna
try to be calming on Mondays.Remember I do have a guided meditation if
you'd like to be a part ofit, So go over to I'm gonna
put the link in the show afterthe show's over, give me a few
minutes, but I'll also drop thelink right now if you if you'd like
to go see it. But youknow, give me a massive favor.

(37:35):
Try not to click it right nowbecause I'm in the middle of the show.
No, I'm gonna leave it atthe bottom of the show after it's
over, and and then and we'llchat about some more of it after we
finished watching it together. But gocheck out the UFO dtox hour over on
YouTube. And I'm sure there'll eventuallybe elsewhere, but here is. Just

(37:57):
go click the link and go hitsubscribe and come right back. Okay,
okay, okay, okay, okay, moving on him, moving on here,
moving on. Author Jack Brewer overon Twitter raises awareness over a letter

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recently discovered from April twenty third,nineteen ninety three from one of our favorite
alien abductees, Betty Hill. BettyHill writes a letter to a woman named
Anne, and this person reve youknow, save this letter all the best,
Betty. And we have the letterhere, Jack brew Over at Expanding

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Frontiersresearch dot org. I'll have thelink feed to click in the chat there
five days ago post this. Iapologize for just seeing it now, but
it's worth worth looking at. Andit's interesting to see this because it's in
our heart of hearts. It's whatit says. No, I'm nothing bad
to say about their niece. Okay, Kathleen Martin, who I've interviewed twice
in my life, and I've spokento probably three or three times four times

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on other platforms, but I interviewedright here and string injury count twice.
I've always found it interesting these people'sperspective and where they go, and would
like to hear at least what theyhave to say before my criticism, criticisms
or what not. But I alwaysdid find it interesting that these stories in
a time relied so heavily on somethingthat a lot of us don't put any

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faith into. Today. We seriouslythink about some of these methods and protocols.
Are methods and protocols used to findevidence, and then that evidence stands
above the rest as being proof thiscase happened. Years later we find out

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that not only was the method basicallybunk almost entirely, but the but you
know, a lot of these casesrest almost almost you know, I don't
even want to say it because Idon't want to offend too many people.
I'm so sick of being that guythat defends everyone. But you know,
we know together that if you usedifferent types of hypnosis on people, the

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information that you gain from that hypnosiscould be taken is a series of data
points in a case case file.Sorry one second, give me one second,

(40:44):
recon. I gotta take care ofI'm gonna be right back. What
you just said is one of themost insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling,incoherent response were you even close to
anything that could be considered a rationalthought. Everyone in this room is now

(41:05):
dumber for having listened to it.God have mercy on your soul. I'm
back, Sorry to go take careof something. You can see my freaking
greens. I guess I'll turn thatthing back on. It's so bad,
don Okay, I can't put thoseon. This is the worst because the

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screen screens going to be jame bubblein it. Let's just say this is
in Hollywood, you know what Imean. Okay, So get over the
green screen. Oh it looks somuch better now, cheaper. Okay,
ladies and gents. I don't wantto tear apart the subject of hip,

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not regress to shreds like every likeeveryone else and I have done in the
past multiple times, because I stillthink there are things to hypnosis and putting
someone or putting yourself in a relaxedstate. I've tried it too much.
I have a float reserve and providence. I'm going to go to uh soon,
I'm gonna try some stuff there.But like, there is a thing
doing this isn't just something something likeyou know, weirdos came up with.

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You can go all the way backto you know, inventors from before the
Industrial age, where you know,they would talk about methods in order to
kind of put themselves into a positionin which or into a state where they
can be the most creative or havethe most thought flow flow, uh,
you know, flowing through them.And it's you know that almost like lucid

(42:40):
dream into some degree. I guessif you're an inventor, that's kind of
what you're dreaming about it, that'skind of what you're thinking about. You're
you're you're just coming up with issuesrevolved around, you know, evolving around,
revolving around that subject. We've seenstudies where shows athletes do that.
So of course we have the uh, you know, the idea that people
that believe heavily and aliens are possiblysome sort of very dark like interaction with

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something that is beyond the ability toquantify, and they just assume that the
best information they can get on thetopic is from people that are you know,
like individuals talking about mound footprints inyour room and you can't do anything
about it. You can close thedoor, you can't do anything about it.
They'll pull you out of your bed, they'll floating down the street,
they'll take your butt, they'll putsomething in it, they'll make little babies
out of you, and then you'llbring you back up to see your baby's

(43:29):
five years lady like that, andthey'll take your soul. And if you
believe that while being hypnotized by theindividual who also believes that and is like
the main proponent for that, thenone might assume that there could be some
crossover, some bleeding, some subjectivelike influence in which this person, in
this very altered state, seemingly isbeing led down a path in which they

(43:52):
basically say every goddamn thing the personthat's that's hypnotizing them ever's ever wanted to
hear. Oh, and this oneis one of the most famous abductees ever.
I'm gonna go paint about it,Leslie hot top time. Anyways,
So there is ah there is.You know, there's some good, there's

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some bad. But this letter Iwas trying to break it from Jack Jack
Brewer's blog is uh is pretty muchthe epitome of what we're talking about.
When we see something like this,and we see even the person that is
like most known for it or thisabduction thing has her concerns. Let's look

(44:45):
at it together. I'd like youto go over to Jack Bluer Bluer Jack
Brewer's blog, of course, andI'll leave it in the show notes right
after the show's over, but wewill look at the letter specifically that he
found, so you can go readhis blog and then look at the letter
again on your own. Let's takea look at this right here, the

(45:08):
Bonnie and Betty Hill story. Allright, So, dear Anne, I
agree with you. Should I readthis in Betty's voice? Now I want,
Dear Ann, I agree with you. The abduction scene is in chaos.
I receive on average of about twophone calls a week from those who

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want to believe they have been abducted. Most of them, I tell you,
I'm sorry. Most of them.I tell most of them, I
tell them to contact Bud Hopkins.I know I'm not going to believe them.
I know I'm not going to believethem. I know I'm not going

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to believe them. Now I'm gonnastop here for a second, because you
know what I do. I stop, I chat, I get back to
the letter and make sure I tellyou on the audience side which part I'm
actually reading. So I'm gonna stophere. That's them. That's the very
opening of this letter. Is Iknow I'm not gonna believe them. Is
where I'm gonna stop here for asecond. Is this a case of the

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rock star who's not interested in bandsthat sound like their band, even if
they become like this huge success they'relike Is this a case of someone who
felt she was actually abducted and whofeels that these other people are oftentimes just
trying to gain attention to be likeher. Is this a case of a

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person who has major doubts about theirown experience. When I interviewed Kathleen Martin,
it did not I'm not trying tobe mean here, because I thought
she was a very pleasant woman,but it's I just feel deep down that
did not helped me with my confidenceover the betting Partill case. When I

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thought about the way it was beingdiscussed in the value of Bud Hopkins' style
investigations or you know, we've heardof other people that have all right,
I see, I don't want togo too far because I know that you
know, and others you know,just passed away Calvin Parker and stuff,
and I we know that there's somestuff out there that we really want to

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be concerned about. Not all ofthe stories rely on that stuff, but
of course some do. Other peoplelike Philip Mantel have tried really hard to
make sure that there's other evidence thatexist other than just hypnotical aggression, which
I think was a pretty smart move. You can argue whether or not the
evidence is worthwhile or not, butI thought that was a pretty smart move
because once a case relies on thatentire you try to present that same thing

(48:01):
to a modern day audience in adifferent media, like like uh, you
know, like with those digital comicor live comics that they were working on
Camember. What was it. Ican't evenmber what it was for that,
but it was you know, ofcourse, the uh, the it was
it was concerning that that that thatthe whole thing relied on something that no
one today would really put much faithinto accept a very small group of people.

(48:24):
Again, I'm not saying that Ibelieve nothing about hypnosis and that it
couldn't be a valuable tool to maybehelp recount stuff. I just the most
honest people I know. I've intervieweda bunch of people that do it okay,
and the most honest ones will flatout tell you the whole idea is,
you have to lead this person intothis memory for them to recount it

(48:45):
for you. So you oftentimes fallinto this fault of you are leading the
witness essentially, so you have tofind a route to get there without getting
there. You have to find away to get the person to talk about
that day without saying, hey,remember that day, get a buck by
aliens? What was it like?Tell me about it? Like so many
of these no offense professionals did forso long, and people are like,

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yeah, well, why did thisschool they work for say their work was
high integrity awesome? No, actuallyit was that their protocols didn't follow outside
the line and be low integrity,suspicious and criminal. They said that they're
fine. It's kind of like whenDopster says, go ahead, rush talk
about all these things because they're alla load of nonsense. It's not the

(49:29):
same anyways, moving on, Ipersonally think before I go again that it's
the ladder of the three I presentedover why she would say something like I
know, I'm not going to believethem. My personal belief is, of
course, that it's because she haslittle faith in her own experience. I'm

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not listen. I've been pretty deepinto some of these subjects. I do
forget a lot of names and timesand places, so people consider me.
They're like, oh, if youknow it so much, why do you
have to google it? Because it'stoo much information. But secondly, you
know, we know the evolution ofsomeone in eufology from you know, I've
had strange experiences and they that youcan fall into two groups right away,

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and there's that third, that thirdof like, yeah, it was really
weird. So I'm going to stayopen to there's things that are kind of
like the same or seem the same, and I don't want to really necessarily
put all my faith in eggs andone basket. I do think there will
be a prosaic or natural or veryhuman explanation to what's going on, But
at the same time, it wasawfully weird and hard to say it was
simply a dream or hard to sayit was a you know, a real

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experience, but ultimately well Also,I do have to admit that I don't
want to sound like a person thatis not going to let one of these
individuals win no matter what. Like, for instance, I know I'm not
going to believe them. You knowhow many times have I said it here?

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There are individuals that present unbelievable accountsor or or very sober like accounts
of what happened and then just goback up to shoveling the horsepoop and throwing
them back in the pile, neverseek any more attention. Never the horsepoo
probably wasn't a good example, butI mean, I have doctor Farmers who

(51:22):
literally described something and then they justthat's it. That's the end of the
thing. They don't never seek attentionfor it, They'll never they talk about
They might talk about it again overa beer with their friend one time in
the future, but it's never goingto be a thing for them when they
pursue fame from it. And Idon't want to throw the baby out with
the bathwater, but I'm not goingto believe them. Sounds a heck of
a lot to me, Like youknow situations where years later you see the

(51:47):
person has little faith in the strengthof the same you know, in the
evidence that supports what they believe happenedto them. So much as I guess
that's all I should say. Ithink closely to like the kids at the
aerial school, and I think,oh my god, yeah, you know
how like the kids are being interviewedtoday, some of them, and they're
like, we saw something. Nono, no, no, no,

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you cannot that's not you. Youcan't go from a child being essentially manipulated
by these individuals interviewing you months laterall in a room whatever, like just
hyping you up, all after thisstuff about UFOs and meteors are on TV
and all of this stuff happened onTV, and what do you know,
school children have an experience like thenext day and then years later a lot

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of them that were the biggest proponentsfor not necessarily but at the time they
were, you know, with theirdrawings and all this stuff, and then
say we saw something. If youdrew that, you flaw you saw a
saucer on the ground with the aliensaround and looking at you in the eyes.
You don't then you know, Idon't know what I saw these years
later, I just saw something.I know something happened, you know something.
What is that like the same asthis where it's like years later,

(52:52):
this is nineteen ninety three, youknow when the incident happened. Is it
the same thing where it's like,well, we did see a light,
But most of the information we gotfeels no different than a series of sagas

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I've had in my dreams, myexperiences. If you read enough books talking
about how you know, these abductionscan be like dream like states and whatnot,
and these things can happen, andthen you experience that and you dream
dream there is a part of youto some degree, unless you're super just
hardcore concrete like you know, beinginternally speaking, I guess you know you're

(53:38):
going to be somewhat affected by theidea that maybe that maybe this is happening.
Maybe I am having experiences like theseindividuals and they're right. But is
that the case here? I don'tknow. I don't want to speak for

(54:02):
Betty, but doesn't feel good toread. I know I'm not going to
believe them. The investigators are goingback to the story here for audio side
people and for people that have beendying for me to just shut the hell
up and read it. The investigators, there we go. The investigators are
at fault. Also. For example, last summer, a very well known

(54:22):
investigator came to visit for a fewdays. If I said his name,
you would know you would know him. My tenant, Sylvia, was sitting
in the backyard. He walked upto her and suggested he give her hypnosis
to find out her abductions. Thatseems legitimate. It seems like a legitimate

(54:50):
way to do a good protocol.The series of protocols will follow you.
You've been abduct to get off thatchair, it's time to go. She
was amazed against and said she hadnever seen a UFO, so he said

(55:12):
they had blocked her mind so wellshe did not remember seeing the craft.
She refused. After that, heteased her repeatedly to have hypnosis. She
continued to refuse, and then hesuggested hypnosis as peppi lepew mother foh,

(55:36):
sorry, go back, that's notthose are my words. Then he suggested
hypnosis to cut down on her smoking, and she agreed. He said a
few words and then told her totell him about her abductions. She said
she was not in a trance andshe never had an abduction. The argument

(55:59):
went on for a while, andshe finally decided to get rid of him
by saying she was told to neverdiscuss this. He went home happy he
had uncovered another abduction. So muchfor research. I found, if information
disappears, it is not the governmentbut other investigators. If I gave a

(56:23):
report, I wrote to one andlater he told me he took my report,
changed it a bit, and soldit for a good price. Let
me read that again. I havefound, if information disappears, it is
not the government but other investigators.I have found this is my own words

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here. Sorry. I found inmy own life that the omission of information
by UFO investigators claiming to be workingon your behalf to uncover information that has
been covered up and kept from youhas been one of the biggest issues I've
ever seen. I have literally,and almost like on repeat on schedule,
every time I get into a newperson I've never really heard of them,

(57:05):
or if I haven't, I findthem on the way back machine. They
did all this amazing, seemingly amazingwork back then have kind of only spoken
about on Twitter, x spaces andother groups, and then you're like,
what the why. It's all aboutleaving out the information that is important at
the time and then leaving it forthe people like me years later to drag
it all back up for you.What missiles were we working on? Where

(57:28):
were missiles being won? Like it'sit's just the same thing on repeat.
It's unfortunate. Let's get back tothe letter. I apologize about my rantsom
coffee Fueld and I'm insane. Iapologize. I gave a report I wrote
to one and later he told mehe took my report, changed it a
bit and sold it for a goodprice. I have no complaints about the

(57:54):
government. Our best friend in thenineteen sixties was head of intelligence at p
Airforce Base. Is that P's Hesaid that pees. I never heard of
it, and I have been paidby them to give lectures about UFOs at
different bases. Also, I havebeen paid by different government agencies for some

(58:15):
of my research, and I havemet with some of our top scientists,
and I have gone along on investigationswith military personnel, and I believe they
believe asked not some other Soulicians arecoming here, but most of the info
from the UFO groups they stay awayfrom. At times, when someone writes

(58:38):
to them asking for UFO information,they check with me as to idy as
to the identity of the writer.As to the name of the doctor who
threw the bums out, I wouldnot want to jeopardize his license by revealing
his name. Delusional, he hadno aliens in his office. All the
best, Betty. First off,I want to I think in context we

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should consider that when someone says thatthey worked for the government, we don't
know if that means that literally theywere, like maybe the a member of
a test group. There's been allegedstories of using syop like information op like

(59:30):
procedures in order to inject information experiences, alleged experiences into the UFO community or
into the public and to see theirreaction. I've never seen any direct evidence
to support that that's the case inthe sense that the Betty in Barney Hills
story would make sense. I doknow that New England is covered in these
plasma like light looking things that blobaround and fly around through the woods and

(59:52):
pop up over places that you wouldautomatically assume must be swamp gas, but
they don't appear to be swamp gas, you know, and other things like
that. And then there's a longhistory of it, so there's also that
aspect of it. So I meanto me other than the I don't mean
to go off in that other part. I should pause on that one for

(01:00:12):
sent. Remember the Henry David Throwstory. Let's just go back to this
real quick, just because someone inthat time period says, well, ninety
three technically says that back in theday I was, you know, we
were lecturing. It doesn't necessarily meanthat they were the victim of a test
and they were basically getting reports backto see what this person did or what
they thought, or what their investigatorswere maybe activated or whatever. It can

(01:00:36):
affect mean more what she was referringto. We know that different academies out
there, military academies had used increative writing classes and and you know,
theoretic theoretic based courses UFO books andpeople that were popular writers at the time,
and the idea to inspire in theidea of thought and maybe even inspire

(01:00:57):
the direction of which these military officers, as young future officers might help lead
our military in a certain way,if there's this unstoppable force in the sky
that can fly faster and evade anysingle any weapon system we have, including
basically all forms of detection, thenof course you'd want to inspire a bunch
of future cadets with not only justsome critical thought, but also maybe even

(01:01:17):
in a direction in which they cancontribute to our technology wise and our war
machine, if you will. Butyou know, you have to keep in
mind there's obviously a bunch of otherthings out there that involve I personally believe
that it's far less conspiratorial, butI don't dismiss that fact. I think
it's right for the time for misinformation. You have an explosion right in the

(01:01:42):
knowledge of we just so basically,you defeat an adversary, you go sometime
and then you recognize that you verywell could be in a major conflict as
big, if not bigger than theone you were just in. And WW
two and so know, and there'sa lot of misinformation going on with advance

(01:02:02):
advancements and in technology that the UnitedStates had never really debuted over their own
skies. Ever, I'm not sayingit was alien technology to abduct people,
but I do think though then ofcourse, we've seen what people experience.
Something see something strange enough, maybeeven scary enough, because they are easy
and maybe they have a fair bitof hyper affinstasia affinstasia, and they and

(01:02:27):
they, I don't know what,what was that thing we were reading about
the other day, but they theywork themselves up into almost no, it's
the opposite. Anyways. They somethingscares them to the point where they almost
go into hysterics like instantly, andand and you could have a couple of
people sitting next to each other todo that very thing. Could they've experienced
what many of us experienced in NewEngland and throughout the world. These unexplainable

(01:02:50):
lights that I'm sorry, these unexplainablelights, these lights that are essentially observed,
you know, been monitored in inthe world. A lot of theories
have produced some interesting aspects of research, but none of them have been the
total, end all be all.Things have been replicated in labs, but
it doesn't explain the natural like thingthat's going on. And of course there

(01:03:14):
is always that question of people havereported strange influences to thought and things like
that being around them. Are theytelling the truth? I don't know,
but it would explain some experiences.I think personally that this story falls on.
There's just enough I have just enoughanecdotal, subjective feelings of New England

(01:03:40):
to think that they probably did seesomething interesting. I also have enough information
on the technologies that we're developing,you know, in those days. So
it doesn't matter if they if theygot to witness some cool, weird plasma
blobby like action around the mountains inthis place. They also could have saw
something out of an air force nearbythe air force base. There's allegedly a

(01:04:01):
story that's out there of an airForce base that Mountain East Mountain based whatever
that monitored something before Betty and BarneyHill had their experience. Was it before.
There's all these things that you knowcould be something because a lot of
people do experience something. We knowit and you know it too. You
know that your neighbor will see alight in the sky and the low information

(01:04:23):
zone and what would they do.We'll spend forty five minutes telling you about
the goddamn psychology of the aliens theyspoke to. You're like, what,
I was standing right next to you, Betty. We both saw it.
It was a freaking light. Wethought it was a plane, you had
bad dreams and you got hypnotized,and now you're saying it's goddamn German Irish

(01:04:44):
aliens with evil smiles taking you andpoking you in the nabel and doing all
types of other stuff. So whenyou start, I mean, I don't
want to ridicule, But at thesame time, if it's based off of
what they claiming it's based off,oh why should I put any faith in
it? If she doesn't have muchface than the people that are also doing
it. That's all I have tosay about that, and I apologize for
ranting so much about it. Butgo ahead over to Expanding Frontiers Research and

(01:05:08):
check out Jack Brewer's blog and see, you know this this letter that has
been you know, brought together,brought up here, and it's just like
what we've recognized. If you've everdone any digging, you can see that
there are some people, of thecourse that have a remarkable talent for putting
someone in an altered state. Theyhave a very good way of talking to

(01:05:30):
people in that altered state that theytry their ass off not to lead them,
but they know it's one of manytimes they have to sit down with
this person because it's not doesn't worklike it's these people pretend and then you
have all these individuals they put ona freaking It's like the folks that go
on a brew put on a fakehat, put on a fake vest,
and they tell people you idiots cannever built this when you're stupid. Only

(01:05:50):
aliens can stack rocks on top ofeach other. It's the same thing.
You have a person shows up,I'm a psychologist, Lay down under your
brack. Let's go. I mean, let's go, get in a relax
state. Okay, let's move onhere, let's move on. Sorry,
that was too much. Ladies andgentlemen, boys and girls, cats and
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(01:06:11):
pay for the bills here, andthen we could pay some of my bills
in real life and upgrade the gear, like I recently did with a new
camera, the new lighting station,the green screen, this weird thing,
this other camera, and all Igot a crap. I'm getting a new
microphone soon. Technically speaking, Ialready have it on where are you at?
I already got it got the interface. See that name recon. Finally,

(01:06:33):
we're gonna hear some clear audio overhere. You're gonna hear the sound
of my professional speaking voice. Soonyou will hear me and be like,
oh my god, is that manactually on the radio? Are we listening
to the radio. Actually, I'mgonna plug this mic in, this road
mic in, and it's gonna belike, yah, hear me right here?

(01:06:54):
Oh come on, I'll go tothe bridge Why triangle, let's go
get in your cow, let's getout with here. Come on, duncan,
let's go. Can I can?I get a small coffee with extra
cream, extra sugar and three pumpsof cream sugar cream every morning from all

(01:07:15):
directions in Massachusetts in Bridgewater and Rainhamand in Middleborrow and Freetown in the Bridgewater
Triangle. You hear this, daughterayou bitch? Oh sorry? Moving on
from the Betty and Barney Hillton.Go check out Jack Brewer over there.

(01:07:36):
I'll make sure I leave the blogthe letter in the blog in the notes.
Click those notes if you want to, you know, see some stuff
here. What else do we got? We got Jeff Knox over on Twitter.
Jeff Knox a member of that UFOd talk show. Jeff Knox on
Twitter posts UFO history stuff. We'vehad Jeff Knox on the show a couple

(01:07:59):
of times and it's been brilliant.Jeff shares this day in utiful history and
what is he sharing with us today? What is he sharing with us today?
This awesome case that we've covered multipletimes on the show because it is
hilariously bad, but the case is, in my opinion, quite fun.
David Politi's has tried to retackle itand you know, really breathe life into

(01:08:21):
it by leaving out most of theinformation and any information that would make sense
to you. Here we go,Let's take a look at the singer together.
This is mister Jeff Knox over onTwitter at mister Jeff Knox. Can
we what's happening here? Open up? You sign up a gun? Okay?
On this day in UFO history,Oh medicine bow claims another today an

(01:08:48):
UFO history Alien abduction of Wyoming hunterCarl Higden. Carl Higden appeared on camera
on the David Polities New uh It. If you're gonna say documentary after David
Platies, you gotta go like DavidPlaiti's documentary. You try it with me,
Come on. Carl Higden, theWyoming hunter that was abducted in Medicine

(01:09:13):
Bow National Forest, was featured inDavid Politi's documentary Like that I say.
Have to say is that if yousay David Plati is in the word documentary
after it's legally speaking, you haveto go document like that. Okay,
I want to do it again.That's an awful one anyways. Nineteen seventy

(01:09:34):
four, October twenty five, MedicineBow National Force in Wyoming at four fifteen
pm. Oil Well Digger E CarlIigdan Junior is hunting elk on the northern
edge of the Medicine Bow National Forest, southeast Rollins, Wyoming. When he
sees five elk standing motionless, heattempts to shoot one, but the pullet
falls about fifty feet from him asit is hitting an invisible obstruction. He

(01:09:59):
goes to pick it up. Thenhe hears a twig snap and sees a
humanoid being more than six feet tallunder the tree. Oh my god,
about fifty feet away. Its hairis sticking up like wheat straw. Maybe
it was scared, Maybe he wastrying to show. It's like humans do
now like apes do, two beltsacross its chest like an X men,

(01:10:25):
and another wrapped around its waist.The being asked Higden what he is doing
and whether he is hungry? Whata sight? Look at that one recon
on the audio side. If youcan't see this now, head over to
Jeff Knocks on Twitter so you cansee his post where he has a modern
day cartoon or renditions of what thisthing look like? What a terrifying sight.
I would not be answering questions easily. I'd be pointing my gun at

(01:10:47):
this thing's face and stay close,after which it tosses him a package of
pills and the Earth is ruled byten thirty eighth. Hig Did looks up
the hill and sees transparent lightened atransparent lightened cubicle. Suddenly he finds himself

(01:11:08):
inside it, strapped to a seatwith a helmet on his head. Two
humanoids are also inside with him,as well as four seats, a control
panel mirror, a map of severalelk frozen in a cage. The craft
takes him to what seems to beanother planet with a mushroom shaped tower one
hundred feet tall and oh one hundredfeet tall. He and one other one

(01:11:30):
of them sorry. He and oneof the humanoids float to the tower,
go down an elevator, passed downApex style a corridor, and go into
the room with a platform. Afterbeing screened by a glassy shield, Higden
is told he is not any goodfor what we need, and that's what
I'm gonna end it right there.If you like to go see the rest,

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please go check out Jeff Knox onTwitter at Jeff Knox. I'll leave
his tag on the bottom of theshow. You go check out Today and
UFO Street to see. This issomething that has a history far earlier than
two thousand and four, certainly farearlier than twenty seventeen, and certainly far
more complex and interesting than a DGIMavic flying around a Navy ship outside of

(01:12:16):
one of the largest fishing routes ortransport routes logistical transport routes that the world
has between China and the US.Anyways, I'm gonna take a quick break.
When we get back. We're gonnachat a little bit more about some
stuff that's happening in in the area, and of course I'm gonna bring you
over to an old website. Now, I don't know who this person is

(01:12:46):
or what they're known for and ifthey've ever been you know, debunked or
whatnot. I just like going throughUFO history stuff from from you know,
from people that have contributed in waythat are not just simply uh, you
know, opinion or their own hypothesis. But uh, I'm gonna go look

(01:13:08):
out this guy, Tim Printley.Do you remember Tim Printley? Anyone from
uthology land? Tim Printley was anastronomer or like a seemingly an amateur,
maybe even a professional. I'm notsure. I have to look into it,
but he had a bunch of informationnot years ago. And one of
the things, of course that hethat he caught he was a former navy
guy as well submarine guy. Butone of the things that that his website

(01:13:30):
still hosts today that I pull fromis those are those those blogs, uh
that I'm not quite sure even whothe author is sometimes or some of these
I like, they don't have anyinformation. I'm not sure if it's Printly
himself. So we're gonna look atone of these again and uh and take

(01:13:54):
a look at Printley's old websites andsee what he was contributing to youuthology back
then anyways, kand I'm gonnake abreak. I'll bear it back. Don't
go anywhere, stick around? Whatare you doing in my room? What
are you doing in my room?Take your screenshots? Let us nuns,
boys and girls, cats and kidsand pushes, bumpupies. Here's some music

(01:14:15):
from Rob in the UK. Bangyour head, do some push ups,
do some sit ups, do somesquats. Get ready for the aliens.
Travis Taylor, the famed alien killer, is telling us to get ready because
they're coming. You know what I'msaying. Shut you can just ave the

(01:15:15):
como grease we haven't seen and tellthem grow injrees stone and bushes on them
in the row. Come comforts togentle puss of jump me machines be giveing
them. They studies crees stemless.I haven't long stem with me. I'll

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come with all comfort you coment tenand time. What's that about the chunking
gloves? See stocks are girl tobe super well? We'll see a travel

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show many cheese, lay stocks,w die doll finish, ok a metal
and musty my shoes. Glenan nomineesstudy the crees stem with the mother stem
with mad dog or finas shit dollarten time, I know a prod about

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hours and what's the mother choking clothes. I went to the tiber know prod

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about howers and what's the bother chokingclothes? L down at the butter side

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side Chaul said it was like aparaside. You can't stop a looking down
of burn out eyes down a bootyand a jar of from mount a hide
and stop that nothing to we gotour boat con by me something for Refletcher
side. I'm not as again homesteer in my phone to the public sets

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modio. Mommy, look at yoogold cratur the ne selestia bludya moyo mommy
the gtio. Then tell me aboutthe stuffing the mash uggy all yo,

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mommy, they yado next semassion,my natural sement, my natural submension,
my natural sement. Sons don't knowthat I'll cry, tell our children yead

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no no that I lie. Youcan't stop a looking donna, but our
eyes gonna put in a gira forout I hide, stop finding nothing's gonna
make her mine beg me someone thatwould last. Whatever I was, I
better made her spine stein in myboat. Stop its special, mom,

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I don't move that all at last, all last, Bodia Maria Mobby look
at Yota plads that sepastia da mobbyaMobby look at yao. They can tell
me about the terms loyda Mobby lookingat Yella Baba. That sempassion my natural

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sumption, my natural subdamptionship, mynatural sublamtions, my natural sumption. She

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got the buddies, picked up theleggs. We love the mass bag out
of the bag. You got thepage, got the bag, so brag
up the bag. Storm is coming, storm that's coming. You love it?

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I don't love that. I'll mommylook at you and clash on around
ray bummy, mommy, mommy,look at you, bad laps and then
alas mondy Mobby, how Mobby Dubbybad don't here show up, Bobby Mobby

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how moby ye ship ship ship shareshah show All right, my friends and

(01:23:55):
weirdos, we are back. Thankyou for being here. This is strange
rec on your part. Please clickthe links below if I've inspired your curiosity,
and of course, if you wantto help support the show. Let's
keep going here because we got tofinish. We got to get going.
It's only one hour and twenty in. We've done one twenty something recon As
I said, I wanted to quicklyfinish up on this old on the Jacob's
case from last week, not becauseI felt like there was anything particularly you

(01:24:19):
know, like bomb drop like thatthat is worth getting into necessarily, but
of course we did talk about about, you know, some conclusions we were
going to get to from some ofthe investigations that were done, and without
even looking at it, I'll justtell you we spoke about it a little

(01:24:40):
bit last week. When it comesto looking at check the file, check
the PDF that I left under theshow notes from from last Wednesday, and
you'll see, and I'll put itagain under today's but you'll see it's nearly
impossible for mister Jacobs, who wentaround telling people's story for years, that
you he saw this and no oneelse was in that room mix up Mansman

(01:25:02):
and Mansman has backed him up tosome degree, so therefore everyone else can
just shut up, just like everyother UFO story has been so drastically embellished,
and it we know it for afact that it is drastically embellished because
he couldn't have seen the clarity inwhich he claims. You know, he

(01:25:23):
oftentimes has lectured where they've shown thesame clip used on Discovery, that geo
freaking sci fi channel, wherever elseit has ever covered the story of some
sort of rocket in perfect clarity flyingthrough detached warhead and something coming up and
shooting it down out of the sky, summed up until literally, like the

(01:25:43):
Stephen Greer styles documentary there like Seriousor whatever whatever that was in the intro
of the show, you have thebullet points while omitting the bullet points are
extremely embellished and admit all the realinformation. Like his cohorts have said about
the case, there are people outthere that were there that explain that and

(01:26:06):
show that it's nearly impossible for anyonewho have ever seen the clarity and image
that which he describes. And sothe investigator that Tim Printy's websites were using
these blogs, I gotta ask JeffKnox who wrote these, who was all
involved with them. Maybe it isPrinting himself, I'm not sure, but
you know, these people that wereinto the subject for a lot and then

(01:26:28):
kind of just disappeared. You know, you saw these individuals talking all the
Phoenix Lights on TV and then younever saw them again. You know,
you can find their websites if they'restill up, or at least through the
wayback machine. So I'm here onTim Printley's website, just looking real quick
and seeing what he's got to offer. First thing is uh, his UFO

(01:26:53):
website, my skeptical opinion about UFOsASTRONOMYUFO dot com. Let's just click on
that real fast, or rather,let's just go over who Tim is real
fast. I'm Tim Printley's I don'tknow this guy, so before you know,
I might find out that Tim Brintleywas arrested for beating his you know,
his sister to death with a hammer. I don't know, Hope.
I'm sorry I said that, butyou know, but I'm just reading the

(01:27:13):
work because I found all these greatblog posts on there. They were worthwhile
that really do show some of theoriginal first accounts of what IS, people
like Jacob's were actually saying versus whatJacobs himself said about the case for years
and years and years, which isunsupported by anyone else. Let's go over
to his website real quick. HereTim Printley's website found through the wayback machine.

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And we're gonna talk about a caseat the end of the show here
that you may not remember or haveheard of yourself. And I found it
once again to this guy, TimPrintley's blogs. So Tim Printley's website,
let's go here. Tim Printley's websiteclassically classic Internet days. Since nineteen ninety

(01:27:57):
seven, I have had my webpages on the Internet with a major focus
on UFOs and astronomy. After beingforced out of AOL when they closed their
AOL web server, I decided tomove over to Comcast. As a result,
I also made an effort to reinventmy website into several categories that can
be assessed via the central page.Just click on the picture or the highlighted

(01:28:20):
link. It'll take you there.Please understand that a lot of these links,
of course, are dead now itdon't work anymore. This is to
his astronomy site, and you cansee he's got a fair good amount of
photographs planetary you know, I'm sorry, astrological photo, astronomical photograph. What

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am I saying here? Holy cow, don't bring the tribe together when you
go and break it never works out. He's got a bunch of beautiful photos.
Obviously we see some some cool stuffgoing on in his past work.
And also he was a former memberof the Navy. He has a camera
on his chest and in some photoshere my naval career. Let's click on

(01:29:12):
that so we know who we're talkinghere. I usually get a lot of
questions about my naval career, andI felt it would be a good idea
to share my experiences over the pasteight over the years in the Navy.
I broke it down into a fewsections with you, which which you can
access in the links below. Justclick on the pictures and blah blah blah.
Okay, so see his days inthere. See him on top of
a submarine right now. I couldbe a a one off thing. I

(01:29:38):
don't know. But I'm not gonnaread his career right now. But my
first tour of duty the USS LafayetteSSB and six one six nineteen eighty four,
I was he on the side.I don't know how it works with
the Navy. Don't you get likeat sea and then like shore duty,
but you're also going to be atshore duty in support of a submarine.
I don't really get how that workssometimes sure duty and nuclear feel a school

(01:30:00):
instructor cool performing as the chief USSProvidence SS nine seven, p. One
ninety nine, nineteen eighty four.The guy had a pretty good career.
Look at those naval uniforms. Noone can ever say they look ridiculous.

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Okay, so we see that.Let's go over to his UFO page.
Now we see that day as abunch of cases covered. Obviously it stops
at a certain point and when he'snot going to be covering cases where that
have happened years after he stopped researchingor were contributing to his website. But

(01:30:57):
of course I did find uh youknow, uh link through this guy and
its contributions. The PDFs that I'vebeen reading are the documents rather, I've
been reading to you about, youknow, Jacob's about these other incidents that
all the original investigators put together inthese blogs. What the best, you
know, what the brightest minds weresaying about the case, even believers themselves

(01:31:20):
that went to show up to investigate. And and I'm not asking you to
go. You know, maybe thisguy ends up being like sick ow.
I don't know, but just youknow, if you could let me know
if that's the case, But otherwise, the information and the stuff that you
can find on the way Back Machinerelated to him is pretty interesting. And
one of the things I'd like togo over real quick is this one real

(01:31:42):
fast. I'm just gonna watch thispretty poor quality audio video, but there
are some other things out there.It's the nineteen ninety one Mexican solar eclipse
UFO video that you know. Somedebunkers had said that it looked very similar
to something appearing as a video artifactbecause it was aligned like perfectly with planets

(01:32:08):
that weren't seen at the time becauseit was daytime. But I don't know,
we're gonna get into some of that. I just like to watch the
video with you real quick because wedon't have a lot of time left.
But we're going to get into someof that, and I'm not going to
bore you with any specifics, butI will leave all of the show notes
after a few minutes ago. Clickthem. You can see those documents I'm
talking about. You'll love it.You love it? What am I talking

(01:32:32):
about? All? Right? Herewe go hit that like, debscribe,
help the show out, share theshow. For God's sakes, we need
you to Share the show Facebook,Tell your mother about it, Share it
on Twitter, Go tell the localfire station. I don't know here we
go fair use. This is aneducational thing that I blah blah blah.
I'm taking something off of YouTube that'soldest Hills and no, I'm come on
now, who cares YouTube? Let'sget real, Let's watch this. The

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people of Mexico prepared for what somecall the Crypt of the Millennium. It
is a maximum duration of six minutesforty five seconds, one of the longest
in history. One thing was certainthis would become the most scrutinized and photographed
ecliffs ever recorded shortly after one pm, seventeen different people, unknown to each

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other, in different locations, weightedwith camquarders in hand. Most were astronomy
or history buffs, only expecting tocapture the total eclips on videotapes. Cabre
manoel Freed, a Catholic priest inthe southern quadrant of the city, focuses

(01:33:41):
on the luminous orb in the darkenedsky. The time is now one twenty
four pm. The sun is infully cliffs. It's one twenty seven pm.
After the moon has crossed the matterof the sun and the hovering object

(01:34:01):
still remains in place. Camps onthe rooftop with friends, a TV and
their camcorder. The aguilav family turnedthe event into a fiesta. Notes that
the camera's clock reads one oh fourpm in the beginning and one twenty five

(01:34:25):
pm at the end. This indicatesthat the UFO, known in Mexico as
an orkney, remained stationary over theworld's largest city for at least twenty minutes.
An executive with Televisa, Mexico's largesttelevision network, Piermo ad Aghie,

(01:34:46):
was the first to step forward.He explained that his location on the roof
afforded an excellent view of the dramaticincident. Optical enhancement of the object key
tape depicts a metal disc shaped craft. It is suspended in the air and

(01:35:10):
it seems to be floating, perhapsrotating on its own axis. Members of
the Briton family gathered in Pudla,an industrial center one hundred thirty two kilometers
southeast of Mexico City. They plannedcarefully for this historical moment. Sun shades
were ready, telescopes calibrated, andthe cross positions. The Briton family recorded

(01:35:40):
the silvery object at one twenty twoPM, approximately eighty five miles from the
location where mister Adaghen was. Hisidentical footage, optical enhancement and split screens
is utilized to compare the segments takenby mister Araghee in Mexico City and mister

(01:36:03):
Gripon in Puebla. The two spacecraftcorrespond in size and shape. Were there
two similar objects, one over MexicoCity and another over Puebla, or was
there one object with the capability ofa high relief of eighty five miles accomplished

(01:36:29):
in a split second in the northeastportion of this massive city. Lola Hernandez
zoomed in on one object she thoughtwas a planet. Slow motion gives us
a better view and enhancements shows apulsating energy from the metallic craft. Hernandez

(01:36:53):
was surprised to learn that she hadtaked a UFO. Miguel and Tortos recorded
this segment over the central portion ofMexico City. The enhancement showed a metallic
craft immating bursts of color, acorona that we have not seen before.

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At the tel Avis's studios. Thesix best videos taken during the historical equiffs
are put through comparative analysis. Allour disc shaped, structured metallic objects they
reflect sunlight. The masters of thestars could not have planned this better.
At a time when all eyes werecast to the sky, seventeen different people

(01:37:57):
in different quadrants of the city,videotapes and objects covering below the great eclipse
of July eleventh, nineteen ninety one, the sixth Sun and the era of
cosmic awareness had begun. Whether bydesign or accident, the UFO flab over

(01:38:20):
Mexico City is thanks to the videocamcorder, the most documented mass sighting ever.
The object or objects were seen intape for duration of thirty minutes.
The eclipped footage had flamed the Mexicanpassion for intellectual debates. Why were the

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citing so over? The UFO hadpositioned itself beneath the eclipsing Sun at a
time when millions of people were lookingup. Why unless it wanted to be
seen? And the ultimate questions whyMexico. Some thought it was an unknown

(01:39:10):
intelligence carrying out a scientific mission similarto what our scientists were doing at that
same time, measuring and monitoring ifthey were seen. So what the Air
Force and no one else would challengethem. Others believed it was indeed a
fulfillment of the ancient prophecy. Theage of cosmic awareness was being ushered in

(01:39:35):
by God in sleek, silvery chariots, drawing attention to the sixth Sons and
to the return of Questcorum. Let'ssee recon First off here, I think

(01:40:01):
there's a couple of things we canautomatically establish. One thing is that I
don't think any of those things areconfirmed that she just said without looking at
what mister Tim had hold desk,he was about to fall over. What
Tim has said about the case,we can say that do we know the
thing was a disk? Do weknow the thing with silver? Do we
know the thing positioned itself to besomewhere to be witnessed? Do we know

(01:40:24):
that any of those things that that'sperson the narrator just said are actually true?
No, but could they be?Okay? Maybe did the object look
the same at all when it waszoomed in upon? Is there a range
where that digital zoom pretty much stopped? Was it digital zoom on those anyways?

(01:40:50):
Excuse me, it's smokey in thekitchen. The issues that we hear
with it just the narration of thatobviously are very you know, non regimented
structure of kind of what could itbe? And that's not like really what
we're into in the modern day versionof euthology, is it. You can't

(01:41:11):
just go saying things like that withoutlike those words being challenged. We heard
things about the Mayan Aztec connection prophecy. We heard things about Jesus Christ there.
I think we heard things about,you know, the shape of it,
the purpose of it, what itwas doing. I was invoked with
a feeling of like a nineteen earlynineteen hundred's eclipse over over in Portugal.

(01:41:36):
I was like, maybe it wasback. Maybe the Lady's back here to
share some more demonic wisdom or something. I don't know what I'm even saying
here. Forgive me for that one. Okay, anyways, move on.

(01:42:02):
Did a report. There's a seriesof people that did great reports. It
was a star map overlay to seewhere this thing was in comparison to where
where the debunkers were claiming planets were. And it can be found right here
on this old website astronomy UFO withthe sources underneath it. Unfortunately, a

(01:42:24):
lot of the sources are pointing backtowards things you can't click on anymore,
like the lone Star Texas MoveOn reporterAndy Abercrombie research. If you can help
me find that, that would begreat. D Cisco, Dennis Denis de
Cisco or Dennis Kicko. I don'twant to say that, excuse me.

(01:42:45):
The Great Eclipse of nineteen ninety oneskuy telescopes in December nineteen ninety one featured
between page five eighty nine and ninefive ninety five and a bunch of other
places. And there's actually some linkson them that you can click up did
in two thousand and three, butthey don't go anywhere unfortunately, and I
looked in the way back machine andI cannot get them to work, So
I don't know what the problem is. Pardon me anyways. Uh Hey,

(01:43:15):
Moonloit Good morning, suspicious guys threeforty five. Everyone in the YouTube chat
who I have not said hello tothis morning or this afternoon, wherever you
are in the world, thank youvery much for being here, Good morning
whatever. I appreciate your time,appreciate you hanging out with us, no
matter how long you spend. Iowe walks. Good to see a long
time Brian L. Good morning,good afternoon, wherever, whatever. I
don't know where you're at. Afterall, we're all fully aware this planet

(01:43:39):
has been recently discovered to be shapedlike a puppy. So I don't know
if you're on the air, theear, the tail, whatever, But
thanks to being here. Let's goover to the website now for I don't
know why I wasted your time sayingany of that. Here we go,
friends, let's pull this up herefrom updated last Feber two thousand and three

(01:44:00):
from Timothy Printy. Tim Printy,Capal July eleventh, and I'm not going
to go into this. I'd likeyou to click the link after the show's
over, or use the link yousee whenever in the chat and do it
yourself. But there is a longbreakdown of the actual case. Again,

(01:44:21):
I said a star map overlaid wherethe debunker said that that was actually planets
that were seeing. You can lookat all the different witnesses, excuse me,
in the videos that they just spokeabout in that little clip I played.

(01:44:44):
This is nineteen ninety one. It'svery likely that almost all of these
people are still around. They couldbe found in the Fuintes one thirty one
s Southeast Squadron of Mexico City.This is the one I'd like to know

(01:45:05):
more about. Of course, I'dlike to know more about all of them,
But look at this one, youknow, we if you're not aware,
if you're I just looked at theother camera like it's on right now.
This is not some sort of ahuge production one of my where's my
tree? Jesus, I'm the worst. This is one of those cases,

(01:45:28):
of course, where people have claimedthat there is video evidence, good video
evidence, and you gotta watch outwhen people say that they have video evidence
of things and then pointing back tocases like this, we'll say they they
actually recorded one of these things goingunbelievable speeds out of there, and I've
been just trying to find something,and you know, this is just one
little thing that the hyper jump ofthe UFO. The UFO seems to jump

(01:45:51):
from one section of the screen toanother. What were people saying at the
time that that got to go intoalleged hangars and watch where they promo videos
of this. This this organization waspro had promo videos of this aircraft they
had and what it could do,and one of the things was to do
this hyper jump thing where essentially,you know, blink and be ahead of

(01:46:12):
where it was supposed to be orliterally go blurry on screen and go over
there, and they've captured it oncamera, blah blah blah, and and
you know that it was all kindof the flavor of the of the of
the day. And if you goover to Jeff Knox on Twitter follow follow
Lewis comet Cayetano, you can seeyou can see that they're they people have

(01:46:34):
done his website. I'm sorry,what is the ethology is corrupt that's the
name of the website. And you'regonna see the old tropes with these things
can be found, you know,you can find them. Gideon Reid,
he's he's another one that's pulling uplots of good information. He's the guy
that has the aerial school puppet thingthing or hypothesis, I guess, sir,
and he has He's another one thatshows where these things originate from.

(01:46:55):
And you'll see like if there's asuper trend of it, is it actually
happening or is it more in mindof the people. I don't know.
Well, let's just say things goaway and they don't come back. I
don't know that seems weird, andthe best excuse, of course, is
that they are evolving with us alwaystrying to trick us in tricksters. A

(01:47:21):
likely explanation is that this was asimple rapid motion of the camera demonstrated by
Rob Irving in nineteen ninety eight.Nope, couldn't be, because everyone knows
that there is a robust amount ofevidence out there of UFOs going at breakneck
speed or basically blurry because you can'tsee how fast they're going. That is
the core theme of this community.Is it not that there's tons of this.

(01:47:45):
There's tons of this out there,tons of these videos out there.
And on top of it, thepeople leading these disclosure narratives you know,
know about it, have seen it, or even have it themselves, can't
release it because it's too risky forthem. They still want to go to
New World. We can reference tonsof cases throughout the past, though,

(01:48:09):
where something unknown generally as an artifactor the way something's being captured, where
the camera can be handed out tothe public in a context or doesn't belong
where then suddenly the community the publicis like, holy cow, this guy's
recorded the UFO going at seventy fivethousand kilometers an hour, and then through

(01:48:33):
deeper analysis you might recognize that there'sa great chance that this is possibly this
specific type of bug flying at anangle at which, at its max speed
of forty five miles an hour,approaching the camera at forty five degrees going
right over the lens of one framewould make it look like an airplane or
an aircraft going at seventy five thousandkilometers per hour, but in fact it's

(01:48:53):
just a I don't know, thequeaf back beetle or something, or acknowledging
that maybe long exposure while capturing usomething in your hand with a camera without
being on a tripod, or forany real reason of using long exposure isn't
the best idea. You have toask yourself. And one of the things

(01:49:28):
I constantly bring up, I knowit's obnoxious as hell, is that that
even a videotape of a streak,a blurred of a thing taken off,
is considered that material connection long soughtafter by the UFO community, by us
that hope that one day there's goingto be this this actual thing, you
know, and what like you don'tbelieve it or not, even though video

(01:49:50):
evidence would be considered rather weak interms of you know, a scientific you
know, reasoning for what you're seeingis you you have yourself, though it
constantly pointed to as a material connectionto this all being as real as we
say it is. You know,maybe you're like myself and had a couple

(01:50:11):
of weird experiences you really couldn't explain, and you find yourself, like me,
looking for someone else who's looking forall these other people who are you
know, claiming they they know andthey have the evidence and they captured and
all this stuff, and then overyou know, through sometimes not even strenuous
now lysis, sometimes not even rigorous. Now, let's just you see,
it's not at all what they claimedit to be, but it is exactly

(01:50:31):
what they wanted it to a bearto be. S up, girl,
Welcome to University Colorado. Want toget an oatmeal cookie? You just gotta
sit down and listen to me talkto you about UAP, I get credit
and you get a I gotta stopdoing that one A lot that's a non
secretor for a lot of people thatare knew here, they're just like,

(01:50:53):
what the hell is wrong with thisreject? Yeah, so I said I
got a super chip why is itsaying that? Now? Oh my man,
what's going on all the way upfrom the cold cool tundra. It's
about to get real cold up there. Thank you very much for supporting stranger
Econ. I really appreciate it,with the good information, your connections,

(01:51:15):
all your good perspectives and interesting thoughts, and summoning submitting him to the chat
and always taking part of the showhere. Thank you very much. Dude,
we know who you are. I'mnot gonna throw up gang signs right
now, but you know, maybeI'll give a different one and only other
people will get this reference. Ijust almost ripped my arm off. My

(01:51:38):
injury is pretty hard right now.I shouldn't have rotated my wrists like that.
Damn. Oh okay, all right, friends, back to this right
here. As you just saw onvideo, if you were watching and all
those on the outes side, Icouldn't see anything, you know, it
looked like that classic It looked likethat classic you know, saucer or light

(01:52:01):
in the sky captured with a camerawith a kind of like a like a
low quality sensor I mean good atthe time, but like not that great,
and the camera and lens and theway they're capturing it, and the
way the light is in contrast thedarkness around it, it makes what appears
to be even in the daytime,if it's a drastic change in color.

(01:52:25):
It can do this when you zoomin on it. They can be like
Boca like effects. It can beall types of other things. And you
know, when looking at it,it does kind of look like the typical
videos of the day, where todayyou might see a little more quality,
uh, but not that much more, but you're seeing that. You should
know better. You have the tools, right, you have the assets,

(01:52:46):
you have the the capability to belike, well, wait a second,
now, I know if I zoomin on any light night or day,
regardless of what it is in thesky, it could be a planet,
could be a star in another solarsystem. It could be a drone or
something flying far away with a lighton, or a plane flying directly at
me with its landing lights on.I don't know either way. I know
if I zoom in it with thiscamera, it is going to look jacked

(01:53:08):
up. Others maybe, you know, even in the masses, don't necessarily
recognize that. So they zoomed thatson of a gill right in there.
Remember that video I just played fromour friend Tim in Texas recently of a
woman who claimed, you know,the UFO that were capturing together right then
and there wasn't doing what it wasdoing when she was watching it beforehand,

(01:53:29):
but the other UFO that she hadseen the day was doing wild stuff,
and she had got him out thereto look at this UFO and was capturing
it while they were talking, andit was you know, it's like it
looked like maybe a drone in thedistance or a plane or it didn't really
matter, a balloon or whatever,but it didn't. There wasn't doing anything
special, but it was it waslike every time they zoomed the camera in

(01:53:51):
on it, the reaction changed becausefrom where they're looking, it looks kind
of weird, right this car onthe side of a mountain while looking over
a city in Texas, And thenthey zoom in on it and suddenly you
see this huge orb color and movingall around and doing all types of crazy
things. You're just like, mygod, my god, we have captured

(01:54:14):
it. Am I open to theidea that there could be very hard to
identify things that are not aircraft,A little bit outside of our traditional empirical
like understandings of how life works inthe world that could be floating on our
atmosphere, even coming down or appearingor maybe even you know, break I

(01:54:38):
don't want to say it, butleaving behind something visual that in no way
represents what the actual thing is.What's the tagline? How we in the
show every day? You know thedeal? How do we in the show
every day? Look for things?How they actually officers, how they appear
to be. That goes for seeingsome weird goddamn light in this guy as
well. If there's an easines,if there's an answer that you find or

(01:54:59):
someone is found that is like obvious, that is it, then you have
to go with it for that time. But if there's not, I'm not
asking you to just be like,let's just make up something to explain it
away, you know, be alittle creative with yourself, get into some
theoretical work that's that's out there.You know, who knows things are and
versus appear to be. I mean, if I was an insect like creature

(01:55:20):
alien from another world and I couldonly see like like a mosquito sees,
I don't know what things look theway they actually are, say as they
appear. You're looking at goddamn airplaneslike this giant heat source like I'm an
idiot. Don't listen to me factcheck everything. I'm a jackass. Chris

(01:55:45):
Mote, Welcome to the show.The work. This guy has a bunch
of good cases on you. Ido want to go over the I will
use this guy's website and his sourcesfor the show next week when we talk
about the Arizona lights and and Iwould like for you to look into this

(01:56:09):
case and then go back and lookin other cases as well, like the
lady of the rosary there what's hername, lady, the Fatima phenomenon and
all that stuff, and see theeclipse that was going on then, and
what do you know, people,some people were claiming to see something very
UFO like happening, while there's notI mean the same thing here. Excuse
me. I'm not trying to saythat it's easily explainable, but if you

(01:56:31):
look at the work presented, thereis to some degree problems with the assumptions
and the claims made. And Iwould say I would remain open to what
the investigators end up saying, becauseit likely the all likelihood is that you

(01:56:56):
know that there was something well betweenthe distance of what was actually happening,
like a planet. But some peopleare determined, well, we're going to
get into it more in depth anywaysnext week, but we are at that
time. Obviously, I'm literally runningout of a voice right now. My
voice is going running out of avoice. I'm losing my voice. Sorry,
that's the expression, me me,me, me, me me,

(01:57:21):
all right. Not only does ithave connections some other weird things that obviously
you people love out there. Comeon, let's be real. I know
a bunch of you weirdos want tosee some of the stuff where you see
there's a little bit of a lineupprophecies that maybe some people that predicted that
something was gonna happen, right andand then it did. And I don't

(01:57:41):
know, maybe that person already knewabout an eclipse and they were saying the
eclipse was the special thing. Idon't know, But there is all those
weird, cool connections and stuff likethat. So I'm gonna stop giving you
the free website so I don't takeaway from his work and just give it
to you. The same thing withJack Brewer's website over there, expanding Frontiers.
Please go over and click the linksafter the show's over. My friends

(01:58:03):
and weirdos, there's plenty of stuffto dig into in the past, and
it's obviously shown. You know,I show you here all the time through
the technology, the propose crazy ideas. The things that may still be in
operate, are secret and are stillbeing work today, just under a different
name. There are reasons why wedig that all up. We look into

(01:58:23):
it. I know, UFO humpDay. I was very broad today.
We didn't get into anything specific,but I'm when there are When there are
revelations even looking into the past andrecognizing what we know today, I will
bring them up specifically. I thoughttoday would rather be a kind of skim
across the surface. I appreciate youall being being here with me and putting

(01:58:44):
up with that. Thank you.Super Day forty four is on trailers for
sail rent Room Slip fifty cents getthat reference Piano Bridge Smash, super Dave,

(01:59:12):
Rest in Peace. We cover JackBrewers blog. We cover this guy,
Tim Brintley's a work in his navalcareer a little bit. We're looking
into it. Who this person isthat contributed all the stuff you fology back
in the early nineties we covered Ididn't show you it, but I will
present the link will be there.Please look at it. The Jacob's information,

(01:59:35):
the investigation into his work, andwhat is old battle buddy at least
you know, maybe not his specificbattle buddy, but a person that worked
the same recording equipment, the sametelescope at the same place as telling you
here's what like we really saw.And then you look at the technology in
which that they that they were applying. It's like, there's no way that
this guy actually saw the clarity andlike video they play on TV all the

(01:59:59):
time and he sits next to asit plays and goes like, yeah,
yeah, this is exactly what wesaw. It's just not realistic at all.
It's not he's either embellishing or makingmajor assumptions. We also have,
sorry for the clicking. We alsohave Where is that damn thing the Betty
and Barney Hill letter. Please goread that. The Betty Hill letter,

(02:00:23):
Please go read that. She wrotenineteen ninety two ish or three, whatever
it was, nineteen ninety three.I think it speaks pretty loud, pretty
It's the path of so many peoplethat I've known. I don't want to
throw the baby out of bathwater.But god, it just seemed like almost
all of the people that submit tothis topic are just contributing kind of nonsense.

(02:00:49):
Other than that, like very smallpercent of people that may have actually
been affected by some sort of anomalistlike thing, may have witnessed some sort
of secret military technology, may themselvesbe in on a conspiracy to misinform the
entire community. No, I shouldn'tadd to that to that, but either

(02:01:11):
way, it seems to be alot in the vast majority is like,
you know, just have misidentified something, or is misidentifying and embellishing, or
is flat out lying or taking advantagesnake oil like drifters. A lot of
people just made mistakes. And that'shappened to me plenty of times. Duh,
mistakes were human. But it's whenit's when you can't back down,

(02:01:36):
when your theory has been broken bysome real hard evidence, then you're not
backing down. All right, myfriends and wardos, go check out the
Ufodtalks Hour. I've got to mentionthat again. I'm gonna go refresh this
page. I'm gonna refresh this videoI'm watching right now. Okay, my
friends, I'm gonna refresh this videoof the UFO Dtalks hour right now,
because when I last left off,it had eleven subscribers on the YouTube channe

(02:02:00):
okay. If that thing doesn't havemore than eleven subscribers, I'm going to
be pissed. I'm gonna click itright now. I swear to God Ricon
we're a team here, and Iasked you a favor. I don't ask
the lot from me. I'm gonnaclick it. If this thing doesn't have
more than eleven subscribers, you're gonnasee a nuclear freaking meltdown. Oh sixteen

(02:02:30):
baby, thank you very much forcontribute to the show. Let us know,
my boys and girls, catskins andbutchers and poun puppies. Look for
things how they actually are versus howthey appear to be. Give me a
massive favor. Recon look out foryourselves, forgive yourselves. Keep it weird,
and keep your goddamn third eye feeled. Rickon, I really enjoyed my

(02:03:45):
trip to Disney World, but Ifound it pretty disturbing all those children walking
around with the severed head of MickeyMouse on top of theirs. Yuck.

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