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March 6, 2022 33 mins
One of the most fun and creative streaming services Pure Magic Pictures just launched and it is well worth your time. Founders Kalani and Stefanie Hubbard are the creative force behind this dynamic and totally independent streaming service.

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(00:28):
Hey everyone, and welcome to thisedition of stream On. I'm Jim Williams,
your host, and we're gonna talkabout a brand new streaming service that
is both unique and exciting. It'scalled Pure Magic Pictures. It's truly an
independent operation with no big time studios. The content you see is fresh,
it's creative, and it frankly isentertaining because it's not got that big studio

(00:53):
look to it. It's got theorganic type of independent film work that you
don't see these days, frankly,and it's really the brainchild of two very
talented people, the founders, Killannieand Stephanie Hubard. Now, everything you
see on Pure Magic is original.As I said before, it's done in

(01:15):
small budgets. But these people arecreative, they're passionate and it shows in
the content that they produce. So, without any further ado, Killanie and
Stephanie, welcome, let's talk aboutPure Magic Pictures. Thank you, thank
you so much. Yeah, it'sit's definitely one of the points that makes
us unique and makes us different aswe Yeah, we don't have Sony or

(01:40):
Disney or Netflix or anybody behind us. It's just you know, mom and
pop movie shop like as authentic asit gets. Just Killannie and I,
you know, making the movies thatwe love and of course our team.
We couldn't do without the team behindus. Of like passionate creatives that come
together to help make our visions cometo life. But we're very blessed.

(02:00):
Well you sound like super Bowl winnersthere. I feel like, you know,
it's like, you know, wecan't We're happy to accept the trophy,
but you know, we can't dowithout the team. Yeah, which
is true, Which is very true. And you know, one of the

(02:21):
things that excites me about your projectis that not only are you talented,
the two of you, but you'veyou know, you've co opted in a
group of people who are also talented. Tell me, tell me a little
bit about what what you learned,you know, after launch. Yeah,

(02:44):
just uh, it's just so importantthe people that you get together, you
know, it's it's the people thatyou you work together day in and day
out to to create something really reallygreat. But um, you know,
you have to get people who aretalented, but also you know, all
really have the same similar vision andsome people are just really really great to

(03:09):
work with, and you want tojust continue to work with them, and
so you just continue to build thatgreat team of people and yeah, we've
just really learned a lot about youknow, we're kind of creating this really
cool community of people who create stufftogether. And now it's like, okay,
well we got the shoot on thecalendar. Well let's get the a
team together, you know, andjust grab all of your favorite people.

(03:30):
And it's just really cool, youknow, and we all really enjoy working
together and everybody's so talented, andyeah, it's just been really really great.
We're planning a shoot um for fornext month, and it was just
a really fun thing when we weredoing some pre pre production and it was

(03:51):
like, oh, so who doyou want to film this? Oh?
This person? Oh okay audio,okay, this person, Okay, let's
do the gapper, this person,you know what I mean. And we
just like we know them all myheart and we're worked with them so much,
and um, it's just been reallyreally cool. UM and actors too,
you know, we've there's there's theseare such amazing actors that we've worked
with that have range and just somany, so many talents and it's really

(04:14):
cool too, you know, usesome of a lot of the same actors
again, you know, and kindof build this cool community of actors that
are just in the things that wemake. And it's just really it's kind
of like really fun, unique thingthat we got going. And I really
enjoy it. You know. Igotta tell you, guys, one of
the things that you're gonna find interesting, I hope. Anyway, otherwise this

(04:38):
story is totally worthless. Anyway.Um, the I find when I talk
to producers, right, and we'retalking about producers who have track records,
I mean really legit track records.Um, when they get a show that
they've worked so hard to get onyou know, a network, right,

(05:04):
they're so excited about it. Andand I think now to hear what you
guys are talking about, right,being able to in essence, not only
be the producers, but actually tobe the showrunners on your own programming.
And I know that's a little insidebaseball for some people, but when you're

(05:28):
developing a program, you know there, as you guys know, a movie's
one thing, but a series orsomething like that, right, that requires
Yes, you've got producers, Yesyou've got directors lined up, but everything
really kind of coalesces around the showrunner, the person who's there day in and

(05:51):
day out making sure that you know, the vision is right there. And
I think that what you've done istaking some of the layers out of that.
Right. You don't have to haveseven producers and three different directors to

(06:12):
be involved. You just need tohave a cohesive team that is as passionate
as you are about putting out goodproducts. Exactly. Yeah, that's really
well said. Yeah, well said. Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah,
it's definitely you know, um,it's a small team here, and
it's it's really cool. We allwear multiple hats, but there is that

(06:34):
what you said, you know,you kind of cut out all of these
different layers and it's just really simplified, you know, and there's something kind
of beautiful about streamlined. Yeah yeah, yeah. But at the same time,
I think that's really where you canget to them. You can really
get to the creative art aspect ofit, right, because it's not like

(06:59):
you to pick up the phone andcall the network or called call you know,
call the studio and say, hey, look, you know, um
we decided to make a quick changehere. Uh you know, would you
uh what do you think? Youknow? Um? You know, basically
that just means, you know,you're tapping somebody on the shoulder and say,

(07:21):
you know what, we have ahow about we we shoot this,
uh, this scene this way,or we take this uh plot in a
little different direction. You know.Basically you're you're sitting down at the lunch
table and figuring it out as opposedto waiting for somebody from you know,
from the studio to get back toyou. Right, that's exactly right.

(07:42):
We definitely don't struggle with it.Too many cooks in the kitchen phenomenon,
and we really do make these decisionsover lunch together, which is not you
know, which is also gives youa great excuse to have lunch exactly.
You know. The funny thing is, I don't know about you guys,

(08:03):
but sometimes when you take up youknow, a concept, right, an
idea, and you take it fromyou know, your head and from writing
it down and putting it into ascript, and you go and you start
shooting, right, there's a timewhere you go, you know, I
wasn't really thinking about this, butnow this makes sense. Maybe if we

(08:28):
went this way, you know,take take a different direction on it,
it would even be better, youknow. And so the ability to think
on the fly like that and createon the fly and change on the fly.
It's something another thing that you don'thave the option necessarily always when it

(08:48):
comes to, you know, amore structured way of doing things. Yeah,
I would completely agree. You know, I would say plunder Quest was
Kalani's artwork. You know, likehe wrote it, he casted it,
he directed it. He was heavilyinvolved in the editing and you know,
the composing. The composition on thatmovie is just phenomenal. And he was

(09:13):
very heavily involved with our composer Massimothrough that whole process, and it was
amazing just getting to see him workand just seeing him on set and seeing
like any last minute changes that neededto happen, and he just I just
I'm just so thankful that he gotto have that ultimate freedom to just needed
to be done, to make themovie the best it could be made,

(09:33):
and not worry about setting investors orhaving the studio executive like what did you
do? You know, it's justlike he just got to be He got
to play and his director playground andhave a great time and it really resulted
in a fantastic film. I Mean, we recently had some critic reviews come
in for plunder Quests that were justglowing. We got like nine point five

(09:54):
out of ten stars on plunder Quests, and I'm just I'm so happy that
the critics see what I see,which is like really one of the best
movies that I've ever seen. Youknow, well, look that's you know,
it's always good to have critics,Okay, um, sometimes it's good
not to have critics, but neverright, you know, sometimes we're are

(10:18):
worst critics, right. There arethere are people in the industry who will
love it, and you'll, youknow, you'll go back and go,
wait, I mean what is this? I mean, you know, what
is it there that they saw thatyou know? Um, I know myself
personally from work that I've done inthe past. I've actually won an Emmy,

(10:39):
you know, Emmys for things thatI didn't think was as good as
the things I lost Emmies for.I believe that. Yeah, And you
know, you sit there, yougo, are you you know, in
one regard, you've got to behappy, right because you're saying you just
received an a war. On theother hand, and you're just saiding there
going, you're kidding me. Ispent seven hours you know, languishing over

(11:05):
this other thing which was much better, and this is what they you know,
I'm being rewarded for this. Um. No, that's I know.
That's sick. Is what that is. That's absolutely sick. Um. You
take it and you just you know, you're blessed to get it. Um.
But that's the creative process, rightIn the creative process. There are

(11:30):
things that you think are good andthe critics are not necessarily on board.
Then there are things that you aren'tas crazy about, but you know it's
part of the creative process. Youdo it, and and the critics are
all over it, and you're like, what are they seeing that I didn't
see? Right? You know.So that's why you know critics. You

(11:54):
know, I'm happy when people saygood things about what we you know,
we do as a creative process,all of us are. But I'm also
skeptical at times when critics are,you know, a little less than happy
with what we do because they weren'tthere right, or maybe it's just as

(12:15):
simple as maybe it's just not meantfor them. You know, if I
was a you could give me anyhorror film that's ever existed, and I
would not give it a good score, because I just don't like horror films.
It's not for me, you know, and maybe just the wrong person
saw it and it's just not forthem. It just doesn't resonate with them
no matter what. You know,maybe they got it up. It was
a bad day, you know,maybe they're grumpy that day, sucking traffic.

(12:41):
You know, it's like, ohman, I got to see this
movie. Uh, you know,got a bad batch of popcorn. You
never know, do you make areally good point? We should not,
you know, hang on every wordof critics says if they have negativity,
it's we got to stay true towhat we make and what we like and
know that people out there like ittoo. Yeah. And it's Um,

(13:01):
I learned that from Stuart Lane andBonnie Comley, who are Broadway producers and
you know Broadway producers. Unfortunately,um, Broadway because it's such a limited
you know situation. I mean,we talk about movies, right, Um,

(13:24):
more people on a Saturday or aSunday weekend, Right, we'll see
a broad We'll see a movie thatwill then we'll see a Broadway show,
even if the Broadway show runs fora year, right and so um,
when you get a bad review,uh in on a Broadway show, that

(13:48):
can mean the death though, right, right, And so Bonnie and and
Stu have always been on of atheory that, Okay, if we get
a bad view, but we stilllike what we're doing, we run it
out for the rest of the run, whatever that may be. You know,
maybe it's four months, five months, whatever. But then they take

(14:11):
it on tour and they make it, you know, they they they they
move it around the country and theyfind out that you know, at the
end of the day, their investorsare going to get their money back because
they believed in it and they movedit around the country and got it out
of Broadway. And sometimes that's whatwe find out in the creative process of
producing movies, television shows, etcetera, is that, you know,

(14:35):
we might not get that you know, glowing review, but guess what the
audience liked it. Mhm, sojail and so if you look at how
many shows and how many you know, over the years, right have been
saved because the audience loved it.Yeah, I feel like you see that

(14:56):
on Rhine Tomatoes all the time.You know, an audience score can be
really really high, where the criticsscore isn't as high, and I usually
pay very close attention to the audiencescores on Rotten Tomatoes. And you know
you've got now Netflix is pushing outa movie a week, which is,
um, you know, pretty amazing. That's that's wild. Yeah, well

(15:20):
think about that. I mean,you're you're talking about in the neighborhood of
two and a half billion dollars.Then Netflix is committed to pushing a movie
out a week. Okay, yougot Amazon flying right behind that at one
point seven billion. You've and that'snot even counting what Disney and you know

(15:43):
any others are you know, arelurking in the background because they know that
if I'm gonna buy or you're gonnabuy a world, any of us are
going to subscribe to a streaming service. We want something for our money.
And that doesn't mean reruns of oldshows. Right as much as we love

(16:06):
the Office, you know, yougot to make something new. Oh yeah,
there's just certain things you just youknow exact I was saying, right,
you know, yeah, that's notreal. I mean that's why you
know, we're not even trying toplay that game. And we really want
to position ourselves in a place wherewe're just we're just our own thing.
You know. It's like we're,yes, our content has to be on

(16:27):
an app, which is streaming,so I guess you could call it a
streaming service, right. But whatwe're doing is really we're building and create
a community of people who just youknow, want to watch the content that
we put out and who want to, um, just enjoy the entertainment that
we make. And um, youknow, we're very interactive with our audience

(16:48):
and uh, from like talking tothem on Instagram to actually having them be
a part of the shows in someways. And um, it's just this
really cool thing that we're building.And it's it's it's completely different from Netflix
and because you know, there's noway we'd ever be able to play that
game, nor would we want to. You know. It's it's more of
like at a curation of of asmall amount of things that come out every

(17:12):
month that you know, you'll probablywatch every single thing, and every single
thing goes together, you know,and so it's like if you like one
thing, you're gonna like everything becauseit's all coming from just us and you
know, so it's definitely a completelydifferent situation than Netflix or or Hulu,
but yeah, it is. It'scrazy to think that they're just pumping stuff

(17:36):
out like that. I'm like,I'm glad we're not playing that game,
because once you start to play inthe game, nobody wins. You know,
it's still joke about when two elephantsfight, the only thing gets hurt
is the grass. Yeah, exactly, you know them. But from a
creative standpoint, right, what Ithink the takeaway is here is let's not

(17:59):
focus on what Netflix and the otherguys are doing, but let's focus on
the fact that that means that peopleare consuming content. And you know it.
When I speak to people and Itell them that I could sit back
and probably watch YouTube for you know, five or six days and not watch

(18:23):
any scripted content, they look atme like I'm from another planet. But
I think that if you're looking forentertainment, you want something that isn't that
hasn't been done before, and itdoesn't have to be as polished or as

(18:45):
you know, cinematically dramatic as someof these you know, major studios put
out. What you're looking for isgood, just entertaining con tent. And
I think that's where you guys havefill in the Niche. Right, there's

(19:07):
a lot of really creative filmmakers anda lot of creative people out there who
want to just produce good content andif there's a place to go to find
it, that in into itself,puts you in the you know, in
the same in the same store,if you will, as in Netflix,

(19:32):
but giving people a different taste.You're like, you're like a bodega on
the corner, right, Yeah,that's yeah, it's it's I can I
can go to any major store andget anything I want, but nothing tastes
as good as what I get fromthe local bodega on the corner exactly because
they have their their secret recipe,secret ingredients, and so do we.

(19:57):
Yeah, now it's a it's are a good way to play it.
Actually, it's a lot of sense, you know. And that little bodega
that you guys have, right,it's only going to get better because you're
gonna get spicier stuff to come in, you know. That's the good thing.

(20:18):
Yeah, And I feel good atshopping at the bodega right by my
house because I know the guy whoowns it, and we always breeze together,
and I'm supporting him and his littlestore, and you know, I
feel better about shopping there than Ido walking down to the giant chain grocery
store. You know, well,and you always, you know, they're
always going to give you you know, hey, look we just got this

(20:40):
in. Why don't you try this? And they give you you know,
you get a little taste of cheese, and you get a little bread,
and you get you know, bythe time you're out of there, you're
full. You know, it's becausebecause they want you to appreciate that when
they got something in, they wantyou to know, hey, look,
this is new. This is somethingyou really haven't had before exactly. And
that's something that we're trying to emphasizewith our mom and pop movie shop is

(21:06):
really going the you know, qualityover quantity. When you talk about Netflix
and Amazon putting out a movie aweek, how many of those movies,
you know, would do what Ipersonally like. I mean, there's a
lot of movies on Netflix that Ifeel I can feel like, you know,
without being critical. Like I said, it really depends on the person.

(21:26):
But I've seen even on Rotten Tomatoesand IMDb like other scores, where
people are agreeing with me that someof these movies feel very manufactory made,
like you know, you know wherefor us it's it's our teas and all.
Not only are you shopping at thebodega, but you're buying the handmade
bread, you know, artasal bread, not the factory made bread as well,

(21:51):
you know, just the entertainment versionof that. Well. Yeah,
and at the same time, Ithink that one of the things that I
think people get hung up on itis that, um, you can watch
um or I shouldn't. I'm notgoing to use the youth and mistake youth.

(22:15):
I'll say I can watch, UM, I can watch something. It
doesn't have to be perfectly produced,as long as the content and the storyline
is good. You know, ifyou tell me a story and you tell
it well cinematically, whether it's youknow, a TV show or a or

(22:41):
a movie, I can forgive youknow, little billets and blocks and things
that you know, uh that youthat you can't get right all the time.
Right, Um, that doesn't botherme. What bothers me is it
not written well? And if it'snot a good story, then you can

(23:04):
be as cinematically brilliant as you want, but it's not going to make any
difference. You can't gloss over abad script. Yeah, yeah, story
is king, you know, it'sit's the most important part, you know,
as you just got to start withstart with the script, start with
the story, and build everything aroundthat and just make sure that that's the
most solid thing that there is inthe whole film. So I totally agree.

(23:26):
I can. I can forgive littlethings here and there if the story
is great. Um. But I'vedefinitely had my fair share of watching a
movie and you know, it's it'sbeautiful in every way, it's immaculate,
visual effects are crazy, and thenlike the script is just hollow or the
writing is bad, and you're like, oh, come on, it's like,

(23:47):
okay, they want best costume,they want yeah exactly, but you
know, forget about it, umexactly. Have you guys ever seen the
movie Memento. Yeah, I've seenMomento. Well like brilliance of Memento.
Okay, is it was shot inin It was shot in three weeks.
I did not know that. Wow, that's really impressive. It was shot

(24:10):
in three weeks. It was shotin four different locations, okay, and
literally shot on a budget that wasjust ridiculously cheap okay by Hollywood standards,
I should say, not not bynot by your standards or my standards,
but ridiculous, okay. Um,And everything is relative when it comes to

(24:30):
that point. But all that beingsaid, um, that just goes to
show you that there's so many wonderfulindependence out there that are done by good
people with good concepts and good ideas. I mean, what Memento was,
you know, for all intentsive purposes, was really shot in a bunch of

(24:51):
motel rooms, right, Okay,I think I mean, at the end
of the day, it was you. It was the fact that this guy
had, you know, written allthese little notes to himself on his body
throughout the d course of you knowwhat was in essence the back of the
twenty four hours, right that itwas two people and that was the story.

(25:15):
It didn't matter where they were,um, you know, they didn't
have to be in the you know, in the four seasons to get this
done. I mean, it wasliterally done in a very gritty kind of
a way. But that's okay,because the story meant it to be gritty.
It was built that way. Andso I think that's the beauty of

(25:36):
independent content is that it's not necessarilythe pretty it's not necessarily you know,
you can be beautiful without you know, having to cgi everything might Yeah,
and I mean a lovely walk down. You guys are in Brooklyn, right,

(25:56):
Okay, a lovely walk down youknow the promise they're on, um
where the best view of New Yorkis from Brooklyn. Um. You know,
there are lovely areas around the citythat you don't have to worry about
doing anything. Yeah, just gettinggood lighting on that day. Yeah.

(26:17):
I mean that's kind of the beautyof of what we're doing too, is
you know, Brooklyn is our backyard, and so you'll see in all of
our you know, films and shows. It's just, uh, it's always
the backdrop. You know, it'swhere where we start from. And it's
kind of a cool thing, youknow, it's we have our own we
have a lot of places that wego back to, and um, it's

(26:37):
just it's just really beautiful to toshow the city and uh and show these
cool places in New York that welove. Um And of course, you
know, whatever the story calls for. But um, a lot of a
lot of the time the backdrop isis Brooklyn, streets of Brooklyn and parks
and all that kind of stuff andit's just a it's a cool thing.
I really, I really enjoyed it'sit's a beautiful thing to look at.

(27:00):
It's a good setting. Yeah,I mean, if you're gonna find a
place, it's not a bad place. It's too exactly, Yeah, there
could be worse. Um, Likea friend of mine as a studio in
Santa Monica, I said, youknow, yeah, great, every morning
you get up at seventy degrees andyou've got the ocean behind you. Exactly.

(27:21):
Yeah, you tell me that aslong as you're not shooting the forty
third incarnation of Baywatch, I'm willingto interest it, you know, which
is not a curiosity. Baywatch wasshot in Santa Monica. But it's uh,
you know, you can't blame SantaMonica. What are you gonna do?

(27:41):
It's just there. Well, guys, what what are we going to
look forward in the future to?What's you know? You've got you,
I say, the future. You'vebeen uh, you've been up and running
now for a little over almost twomonths now. Yeah, still pretty fresh
the futures now at this point.Yeah exactly. Yeah. Well, so

(28:03):
plunder Quest just released, which we'rereally excited about and UM, you know,
coming up, we're releasing UM herejust in a few weeks, Stephanie's
feature. It's called Lily Darling.It's a it's a romance UM set in
Brooklyn in two thousand and six.It's a it's punk rock, it's really
fun. Okay, So that'll becoming out in the next few weeks.

(28:26):
UM. And we're also working onlike a Tonight Show style show. It's
kind of like a sketch comedy UMseries that we're producing called Goodnight Tonight.
UM. That'll be coming out fairlysoon. And will that be a daily
or is that just a it's aweekly release okay, Yeah, so every
Friday. It'll be coming out oncewe release. So yeah, we're really

(28:51):
setting our sights on both of thoseat the at the moment um, and
we're really excited about those and this, you know, we're at the shame
Pug portion of the program. UM. If people, you know, first
of all, make sure that theyknow where to find the network and streaming
service so they can download it andbuy it. Yeah. Yeah, So

(29:14):
it's a it's pure Magic pictures.So you can search any app store where
we're on all the app stores UM, or you can just go to Pure
Magic Pictures dot com and uh,you know, sign up there and you
know there's a free trial. Soyou know, we just want people to
watch stuff. So it's like,if you want to try the free trial,
see if you like what we make. If you do, consider sticking

(29:36):
around and supporting, and if not, hope you enjoyed the movie. But
we just really want people to,uh you can watch what we have currently,
you know, for free for uhfor the trial, and you know,
we hope that people give that ashot at least and see if they
like what they say. I thinkthey might. It's you're coming to your

(29:56):
bodega and you're giving people a chanceto take a free test exactly exactly.
So the menu, yeah, yeah, and if you're curious to see process
and things of that nature, weare pretty active on our Instagram at Pure
Magic Pictures as well. Okay,Now, if there are people out there

(30:18):
who have content that they've already producedor were going to produce, and they
are looking for an outlet and theydon't want to wait for seven years to
get through the lab birth which isAmazon or some of these other streaming services,
and they're independent filmmakers, are theyare you guys open to listening to
them and if so, are theybest to get you? Hit you up

(30:41):
on social Instagram and be a DMUor something like that. Definitely. Yeah,
we'd love to hear from other independentcreatives artists, you know, that's
that's who we are and we'd loveto connect with them as well, so
they can DM us on our PureMagic Pictures Instagram and that will definitely and
get back to them. Special thanksto our guests Kellanie and Stephanie Hubbard,

(31:04):
the founders and creative forces behind PureMagic Pictures. All the information on Pure
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