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Maybe one to Welcome to this editionstream on. I'm Jim Williams, your
host this week a new Brick Boxoriginal. It's Karen Prye. Now.
Karen Prye is a show that comesfrom the production company that has produced two
of our favorite shows, Line ofDuty and Bodyguard, and it stars Lauren
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Lyle, who has drawn both criticalpraise from the media in England as well
as big ratings for ITVS. We'reall excited about seeing it. Let's talk
a little bit about what the showsabout. Well. Ds Prye is put
in charge of reopening a murder investigationthat has been the subject of a controversial
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true crime podcast. Now the casefocuses on a teenage barmaid by the name
of Rosie Duff who was found brutallymurdered in a Saint Andrew's graveyard in nineteen
ninety six. Now, suspicion fellon three male students who discovered the body.
There was never any evidence, orcertainly enough evidence to an annyway shape
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or form pinned these three guys tothe potential murder of miss Stuff. Fast
forward, and the cold case landsin the lap of a young woman by
the name of Karen Prye. NowDS Prye feels very strongly that she's equal
to the task. That's not necessarilyhow some of the people that she's working
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with, some of the old guard, some of the old boys in the
station feel So what we have righthere, folks, is DS pry going
out of her way to show thata she's confident enough to make this work.
Be that even though she's young,she's driven and she has the ability
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to solve this murder, not obviouslyon her own, but certainly she's got
that confidence. And there's a bitwhat I like about the character is she's
gutsy, she doesn't back down,and she's someone who feels confident being feminine,
but not does she expect anybody tocut any corners just because she's a
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woman. And it gives me greatpleasure to say that our guest today is
DS pryor herself, Lauren Lyle andLauren. It's just it's a pleasure of
chatwe although I gotta tell you,after watching the first episode of Um of
Karen Prye, I am a feelingthat you know after seeing it that you're
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going to be interrogating me because becauseyou were very good at coming through and
and synthesizing and making things work there. Perhaps let's see. Yeah. Um.
One of the things that caught meabout this show was that you have
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this ability to synthesize information very quicklyand and get to the point, and
you're not really one of those peopleas a chatting person m as in Karen,
because a lot of this chassis Um. Yeah, I think Karen,
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she's not time. She's very direct, she's very to the point. She
really doesn't have time for all thesarcasm. Sorry, she doesn't time for
sargas. She doesn't have time forall the niceties and sort of gent lonely
nature sometimes of like this stuffy policeforce. I find the scenes really funny
where she sort of wanders in toan office and all the men stand for
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her, and I think she findsas really ridiculous and doesn't have time for
any of that. And so Ireally enjoyed getting to the point. I
really enjoyed the really black I guesswhat would you call it? I guess
you call it really um sort ofdead pat nature of her that she finds
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and in turn that makes her quitefunny. I did I remember when I
was when I do scenes the directorand the writer would tell me they really
when I'd enjoy learning something or I'denjoy speaking something, because it would often
be the jokes, or it wouldoften be the things where she's being very
sarcastic, more so than maybe thepolice jargon or the things where it's a
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lot of sort of wordy dialogue tohave to get through. Um, I
really enjoyed landing stuff and sort ofmaking big men feel small, or sitting
opposite someone where she sort of hasa two liner that really, um,
sort of hits one of them.I really like that. It's funny because
the way you weave it in.I use a term. It's an American
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term. I apologize. It's calledsas. Okay, Yeah, she's a
bit sassy, or it's like whateveryou say to me, right, I
don't want it, you know,I don't deal with it or any You
put them in their place very quickly, even if they don't sometimes get Yeah,
I think I don't even know ifi'd call it sassy. I think
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I would call it just assertive anddirect. And the end that she just
doesn't have time for it, andagain the sort of she's patronized constantly by
these by her work may in herworkforce, even down to things like when
she first meets the Mint, hersort of sidekick that comes in and he
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mentions that the podcast that's being madeabout the murder of Rosie Duff is quite
feminist, and she's like, oh, do you not like that? And
he's like, oh, yeah,you know, fight the fight, do
your thing, and it's like itbecomes some sort of like her female issue
and it's just not the case.It's it's the case of solving a murder
of a young person. So Ireally like that she sort of brushes all
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that away and she sort of highlightsit for what it is. And it's
that thing of sometimes when someone ispatchnizing to you and you ask them what
they mean by that, you suddenlypull them up on it and they don't
realize what it is that they've said, or they are they the true meaning
of what they're saying comes through.And I love that she wasn't afraid to
do any of that, and sheis quite fearless. She really doesn't care
about what anyone thinks of her,and she really is just out to do
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the right thing no matter what,whatever the stakes, whatever the game.
She doesn't need to play by therules, and I think she finds it
quite funny and frustrating when people areso determined to play by the rules,
and she'll just do what she needsto do, whatever it takes. The
other thing was there is a constantquestioning by DS pride that you know,
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you feel as if you are thetalking you know, it's like, why
why is this? And so you'requestioning constantly my hear because a woman,
or my hear because a bit talentedpull it off? Well, yeah,
that's it. I mean, Iguess what you learn very quickly is that
she is kind of there because she'sa woman, and that's something that really
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gets to her. And I thinkso many people can feel like that.
I know our writer I ur Kenney, she's spoken about how so often it's
it's such a like a battle inyour brain of she as a writer.
She's often in a room of writersin a writer's room, and she's the
woman, and she knows that she'sthe talking woman there because they need to
have that. But she knows thatthat's also a good thing because it's better
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that she's there than not there.But you have to try and get over
the what might be imposter syndrome,because you know you are good enough to
be there and that you have everyright to be there, and that it
shouldn't be that it's just because ofyour gender. But I think Karen that
does get to her. But Ithink it also sort of puts a bit
of a fire in her belly toprove everyone wrong. And I think that
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it's just a very real representation.I think of how many many people of
women feel, and young people oftenas well, no matter if they're a
women or not, in a workplaceand so often feel like that that they're
there and they don't quite know whatthe true reason as to why that they're
there, and they've got to provethemselves and it can sometimes be a very
difficult position to be in and sortof hinders her in so many ways.
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If she was just left alone todeal with it with everyone so all these
stupid men getting in her way,she should do a lot better and she's
just be able to get on withthat much quicker. That's it's I know
that in seeing the trailer and thestrader, think that that's not going to
happen on DS Prize part. She'snot comment that that happened Um, you
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had made mention that you didn't wanther aware makeup. You wanted her to
be, you know basically, Um, someone who wouldn't think even to where
that was. Is that just isthat your just your perception in the character
or how you want to portray thecharacter or give us a little inside on
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that. Yeah. Both. Ithink it's how I read to her.
I think she's supposed to be veryvanity free in the book that Val mc
dermott wrote, she's very vanity free. M The looks thing. Actually,
we sort of steered away from heavilysort of commenting on our looks, and
to be honest, that was thething I didn't want to be the focus
is that, Oh, she's abeautiful, sexy detective. In any way,
it was meant to be that that'snot what it's about, and that
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she's just a young woman in hertwenties, she's got a sex life,
she's normal, she doesn't have timeto us but me upon in the morning.
She's not bothered. She's just notbothered about that sort of thing that
isn't what's important to her. Andit felt important to me to portray a
realistic version of what it might whatshe might be, and she's not ugly,
she's not sort of knackered looking thewhole time and shabby. She's she's
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not this sort of stereotype that weoften get with detectives where they're a divorcee
with a drinking problem and they're goingthrough all that and then on top of
it, they've got to solve thecase. That she is a fresh,
young faced woman right at the beginningof her career. She's eager, she's
determined, and she's ready, andthat's the focus, really, and I
wanted that to be the focus moreso than anything else that was bothered about
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her being having to be pretty,if you know what I mean. Yeah.
No, one last question, andthat has to do with you've gotten
great, you know, outstanding reviews. Yeah, from the UK. We're
looking forward to seeing in her ownbroke box. Yeah. Is it exciting
to you to actually now a womanin charge of a mystery series, which
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doesn't happen often. You know,it's it's there's a lot of ensembles,
but this one, you know,you're the point person on and even even
in the United States, there aren'tmany women who have that role in You've
got that role in I TV andthat's kind of cool. Yeah, it's
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honestly, I believe, but Iwhen I got it, I couldn't believe.
I remember being in I was filmingOutlander and at the time, and
I was in my apartment and Igot the call from my agent, and
like we'd been waiting and waiting,and I knew I was closed, but
I really didn't know. They'd askedreally strange questions about certain things, and
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I started to panic a little bit. And then my agent said, you
know, put it to bed forthe weekend, don't worry about it.
And then I got a call,I think from his mobile, like quite
late at night, at eight o'clockor something on a Friday night, and
he was like, Lauren, that'san offer from Karen Ferry. And I
flipped out and I couldn't believe it. And we both went, oh my
god, this is like a reallyproper, proper leading role. It is
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your own show. You are thename of the show, and there is
a huge responsibility that comes with thatthat is almost more so than just being
the leading a show. You arethe name of it, so you really
have to carry it. You haveto be the face of it. You
have to set the tone on set. I felt really lucky to have an
amazing the cast we had and thecrew we had. Everyone was so thrilled
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to be there. A lot ofthe cast that was maybe their first job,
or it was like they weren't necessarilyfamous, they were just absolutely right
for the part. And we wereso lucky to be able to do that
that the network weren't pushing for usto do someone that maybe wasn't as right,
but it was famous to do it, and so it made for a
very happy set, and even theDP and the director and everyone, all
of us sort of our and thewriter. It was our first times really
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being in control and heading something andbeing left our own devices to make it.
And the whole time we all ranaround kind of going, oh my
god, I can't believe that theywere being allowed to do this. I
couldn't believe that I've been given thispart that genuinely when people say like that
doesn't but that sort of parts comearound very often. A good part,
I mean, a young female detectivein a big murder mystery thriller and you
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are the center of it all,that really doesn't come around. And when
I read the script, I thoughtoh my god. And it's a brilliant
script. It's not as so I'msaying yes is something that I'm going to
have to sort of wiggle my waythrough and it's going to be difficult.
It really was a fantastic piece ofwriting. So I'm over the moon.
I'm through it. I still sortof can't believe it. Like I've been
stopped a couple of times now inthe UK. It's only been out for
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a few weeks and I've already beenstopped a few times by people saying they
loved the show and I always wantedI was going to be Outlander, and
it's it's Karen Perry now, whichis a really surreal feeling. And yeah,
Karen Perry is I don't know.People keep asking how you say it
as well. I'm always like,it's Karen's like Karen's, which is we're
making Karen's cool again, and Perrylike Perry Perry sauce like Nando's if people
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know that. So it's getting itout there now. It's been really exciting
and into the sort of mainstream.So I feel a lot of responsibility,
but I feel very excited to doit, and I feel like it's really
the right part for me to getto do. So yeah, thrilled.
I'm sure it's going to be successfuleither. We can't wait to see it.
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One last thing that is social mediawork. We follow you and make
sure that we can continue. Weenjoy your Yes, you can follow me
on Instagram for Lauren Lyle seven.I would love to have the full Lauren
Lyle. I don't know who's gotit, but it was someone had it
before me. And then on Twitter, I'm Lauren Lyle, but Lauren's got
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two els, the first one andthen I've also got a podcast called She's
a Wreck, which does very well, and it's all about, Yeah,
it's all about interviewing very cool peopleabout the albums, the films and the
books by women or basically by someone that doesn't identify as a guy,
which they've influenced their life. SoI've had to tune a Bow from Outlands
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ro and I've had Olivia Cook,who plays the new lead in the Game
of Thrones and an House of Dragonsshe came on a few weeks ago.
And I've got United Nations bomb disposalexperts telling me about first song they listened
to after evacuating a war zone andlive cook told me about you know what
it was like to step onto theHouse of Dragon set and that sort of
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thing. So a real mix.But that's just She's a wreck. You
can get that on my Instagram too, wherever wherever you could get podcasts,
right, yeah, anyway you getyour podcasts and reck as spell our ec
like a recommendation. Okay, soyeah, please do. I'd love that.
Thank you, Thank you very muchfor coming around today, joining it
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all the best of promise to comeback whenever you get to season two.
Thank you. Great to chat specialthanks to your guest Lauren Lyle, who
plays Karen Pry, debuts as aBrickbox original this week, so be sure
to check it out. Also checkout all the information on the show and
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