Dan Ashley, veteran television anchor, award winning journalist, active board member and trustee is back on Truly Significant riffing on many topics:
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- What was his best moment over the last ten years and the lessons learned?
- What person in your life has figured out "living significantly" where they balance serving others while enriching their own lives with joy and meaning? Dan honors Dave Goldman.
- Does a real life of significance begin at the end of the comfort zone?
- Dan honors his wife as THE person that goes outside of the comfort zone to serve others.
- Accountability to your own Mom.
- Launch of his latest song, now a part of our Summer Jam- "Get Lost."
Thank you Dan Ashley for inspiring us all to significance.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Escape it.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I got before you want to get.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
A Welcome back, Dan Ashley, anchor of ABC seven News
in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Rick, thank you so much. It's great to be back
on with you, my friend. Great to see you. You
look wonderful and I'm just honored to be back on
the program.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, you are so much fun. The first show we
did was honoring your dad, and this show you said
we could wing it. So we're gonna ask you some
more questions on being We.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Can wing it whatever you want, but.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I would love for you to just give a as
we say, Rick, as we say it my job, I'm sorry,
as we say my job as a reporter.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Only the question gets you in tru Only the answer
gets you in trouble. Never the question. So ask whatever
you wish.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That is great. You know, since the last time we
had Dan on, he has volunteered to be on the
board of directors for Truly Significant dot Com. And I
hope you don't reverse your decision after this interview.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I hope you don't rescind the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, it was Dan's idea.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Just support what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I appreciate that it was Dan's idea to have this
spontaneous combustion of a podcast today, and so I'm going
to ask him questions that he doesn't know about yet.
Here's the first one. What other person? What person do
you think of that is figured out living significant significantly
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where they both serve others while enriching their own lives
with joy and meaning.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh, that's such an excellent question. What person do I
model myself out? Well, there's certainly some people that I
know here locally that I think in the San Francisco
Bay area that are good examples of that. One, for example,
is my dear friend Dave Goldman, who founded Friends of
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Camp Conquered that I serve on the board and we
host a charity golf tournament. Has a successful printing business.
But he many years ago, thirty years ago now, decided
he wanted to help young people who wouldn't otherwise have
the opportunity to go to Sart be able to make
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that trip up to Tahoe, and so he formed Friends
of Camp Conquered and over those years he and I,
he got me involved. All those years ago, he and I,
through the golf tournament have sent over twelve thousand heads
now is the updated number twelve thousand kids this summer camp,
all expenses paid. He's an example of someone who lives
a full and rich life as a business person, but
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also who carves out a lot of time to give
back to the community through that organization and making sure
kids get to go to camp, and he coaches basketball.
He loves to be involved in young people's lives. So
he's someone that I would point to as someone who
seems to have found a great balance in his life,
doing well in career but also in community.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Wow, how can we clone him?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
He's a terrific guy and a lot of fun. I
really have a lot of friends and know a lot
of people who I could point to that have similar stories. Actually,
Rick I gravitate to those people and like to associate
with them, and I think we're like minded in that way.
And so I can point to a number of people
actually who I think exemplify that life of significance.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, that that is so evident in your own journey
and you have you now serve on a variety of boards.
And I wonder, though, Dan, when you look back on it,
what prompted your very first step towards significance in helping
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other people?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Rick? I can answer that really in one word, which
is gratitude. And you know, I've been fortunate in my
life to be healthy so far, knock on wood, to
have had a career that a professional career that exemplifies
everything that I wanted to do in terms of contributing
as a journalist and as a reporter and doing my
(04:52):
best to inform the public of things happening in our
community and our world. And so it's it's gone well,
you know, And and so a gratitude, I think, you know,
is what has driven a lot of what I do
in life, and the recognition that I've been fortunate, and
you know, it all comes from work. Nothing comes from nothing.
(05:14):
I work very hard, but I've had the opportunity to
work hard and to do well. And so I wanted
to make sure I contribute back in some small ways
to you know, make a difference in other ways beyond
just my profession, but be part of the community. Because
one of the things about this job, Brick, as you
(05:36):
well know, is that I'm given a unique place in
the community because of my job, and so I wanted
to try to be worthy of that and use that
in a way that is positive and that honors the
opportunity that I've been given. I do it through music too.
I do a lot of charity things with music, and
it's a chance to connect with people in different ways.
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So gratitude, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's a part of that heart condition. And we're trying
to study that, I think, probably for the next five
or ten years and figuring out what's at the heart
of a person that serves others. And I came across
an article by Dan Rather, who was exploring the instinct
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for service, and I want to read you something that
I'm paraphrasing it, but he said, there was a time
when some form of military service was a prerequisite for politicians.
Why should there be some inclination toward personal sacrifice and
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the need to help others before anyone enters public office?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well said, I think that gets that kind of service
gives you a unique perspective, unique appreciation for the opportunities
that we have here. It is, you know, sometimes not
everyone bears the equal load in defending our country. And
(07:13):
you know, actually one of the things that if I
could change anything, I would have done two years of
service or at least reserve officer or reserve service person
because I I would have loved to contribute in that
way for a couple of years when I was younger.
If I could do That's one thing I would do.
Over most other things I wouldn't change, but I would
have loved the opportunity to have done that. I think
(07:34):
it's important, and I think when you go into public life,
I don't know that it should be a requirement necessarily,
but some of our best leaders in history have been
those that have served. Because if you're going to be
the commander in chief, if you're going to put people
in harm's way, and not just as a president, but
it's a senator or a congress person, you know, voting
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on these issues.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's exactly Ryan, I want you to go even deeper
with me on this one. You know that we study
core values and how they're actually actually people walk to
talk with core values. And if you study virtues, you
know that old saying. Probably your mom and dad taught
(08:19):
you that patience is virtuous. And so here's here's my
line of thinking. If patience is a virtue, what about
service to others? Could that be a virtue or is it?
Dan Ashley, should it be considered a necessity?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I think I mean core values. I think if you're
talking about core values, I would I would say that
there are necessity are honesty, integrity. Your word is your bond,
you know. I always say that, you know, I we
signed contracts at work, you know, the anchors and the reporters,
(08:58):
and those are it. I could done that on a handshake.
If I tell you I'm going to do some four
years or three years, I will do it, you know,
even if it's no longer to my advantage. So I
think I think probably at the top of that list,
I would say, is is honesty? You know, is in sincerity?
We have to be we have to conduct ourselves in
(09:22):
a way that I always say, you know, acts like
your mom's watching all the time, that that will change
a lot of behavior if you think about your mom
watching it. Oh, you know, next time you're stuck in
traffic and somebody is trying to cut you off, should
I hank my horn? Should I be ugly about this
or should I let them? What would you do if
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your mom was sitting in that car with you.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Wow, that's a truly significant statement and scary at this
same time.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was sober up right away. I mean, you'll think
about a lot of things. I actually had Freddy Rick.
A couple of months ago. This guy called my wife, Angela,
who's an attorney and a lovely and very smart woman,
and uh was said he was a sheriff's deputy and
he gave his name, and that there was an outstanding
(10:14):
you didn't show for jury duty. So this one judge
and that the only one that does it this way,
has issued a warrant if you got to go on
to this side, pay this fine, and you know, blah
blah blaha. And she called me and said, what you said?
Ignore it? What's the guy's name? I called my friend
at the Sheriff's office and do you have anyone working
there by this name? And he said, we used to.
They retired, so they get a name and use a
(10:37):
real name. I called this guy and had a slight
you know, I'm from the South, from North Carolina. I
live in California now. But he had a slight Southern accent.
He sounded exactly like a sheriff's detective or deputy would
And I called him and he played a great game.
It's just all a con. And at the end, I said,
you know, I got to tell you I've done some checking.
You're not who just say you are, and I am
(10:58):
a reporter, so I want to ask you a few questions.
And he got very mad with me and defensive. And
the last question I asked him, brick to the point
we just made, I said, the last question I want
to ask you is does your mother know you do
this for a living?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
God, that's a killer question. Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And and as I honestly said, does your mother know
you do this for a living? And his answer actually
kind of shocked me, which is it's a sad So
he said, I do this to my mother, So shame
on him.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
But wow, that's actually not too far of a departure
from what we're trying to accomplish today, because what we're
striving here is to say what is at the heart
of a person that serves others? And we're going to
(11:52):
take a two minute break and let Dan catch his
breath and we will be right back. So stand by Dan. Okay,
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And we are back with the one and only Dan Ashley.
We're talking about a number of things, but primarily it's
at the heart of anyone that lives a life of
significance and one of the things Dan that since the
last time you know I talked, We're starting to break
this thing down into moments, and the moments the shape
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of heart. And so here's a question for you. Over
the last ten years, when have you been at your
very best?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That's a great question, over the last ten years? When
have I been at my very best? You know, I
would probably say I would probably say when my mother,
who still lived in the home I grew up in
in North Carolina with my siblings and my father, had
(14:42):
a stroke unexpectedly. We're all very, very close. I have
a great mom story to tell you. I'd love to
share with you that involves music at some point if
we have time to do it. And she had the
stroke out of the blue, and we all called her
almost every day ever since her Her husband had died
a few years prior. She had this stroke, and we
(15:05):
didn't know it. We were calling and the phone was
off the hook, and I called my siblings, Hey, anybody
heard from Mom? And we found out that poor thing
had spent the whole night having had a stroke and
was incapacitated in a chair in her living room. So
we sent the police over, kicking the door and get
her out, and you know, that was a sudden shock,
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and I was probably at my best because my siblings
were two all of us, there's four of us total,
because we immediately sprang into action to take care of
her and to settle her affairs. We made great arrangements
to move her out here after a rehab that was
not going to produce anything. She was entirely paralyzed on
her side, and her personality had changed. She was incredibly
(15:52):
off the charts on an IQ score woman. She was very,
very bright, and they said that she probably retained some
of her pacity because she was so smart that even
though she lost twenty percent, she was still doing okay.
But we pulled together in a unique way and served
her and handled those affairs. And then when she passed away,
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it was just a graceful period. My two brothers and
I and I have a sister too. My two brothers
and I met at her house and spent a week
cleaning it out. And to say I was at my best,
I was at my best because even though it was
a challenging time, we were strong in those moments and
we were I did in that moment, and to me,
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I look back at that actually quite fondly, even though
we said that she was gone, But just that period
of time, over the course of about a year a
year and a half illness up until we buried her,
it was very It was kind of beautiful in a way.
The way we all worked together brought us all closer,
and there was something reassuring about it. And I would
(17:05):
probably say that was a moment. Then. I had this
a moment years ago with my kids that we needed
to rally behind them.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I think I've been at my best in those moments
when there's been some problem and it required you to.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Put down everything that you were doing and focus on
somebody else's issue or problem and try to make your
way through it the best you can.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Being best.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Is that a satisfactor answer. I mean, that's what I
would point to.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
There's no judgment on your answers. It's about the wisdom
that is bleeding from your answer, which is that it
was a unifying moment. You were closer and you were
focused on of solving a human problem and serving somebody else.
(18:00):
That's the essence of this whole time.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, I mean we were, Yeah, and that you know,
that was That's what it was. I thought about it
in that contexts until you asked this question, Rick. But
that's I guess why I would say I felt like
I was because we dropped everything to take care of
her and her situation and her affairs, and nothing else
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really mattered. You know. And my middle brother, who's just
an incredible guy, and he works for the federal government
in Washington and just a remarkable guy, has some of
the I always say about my brother David. You could, literally, Rick,
just meet him today and hand him your entire life
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savings in a briefcase and say, would you meet me
on this corner in ten years, and I promise you
would not need to lose a night's sleep. He will
meet you on that corner in ten years with your money.
He is uncorruptible, but he it was such a touching thing.
He flew mom out with a Nurse's a big strong guy,
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a nurse to help her on the plane. And after
she was in rehab here or in a care home here,
and after she passed away, I remember him saying in
the room after she died, he said to her quietly,
don't worry, Mom, We'll get you home. He was very touching,
and it was about a week before they we shipped
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her back to North Carolina. He had gone back home
and he said, I'm going to fly out and fly
with her. And I said, David, you don't need to
do that. You know, you don't need to do that.
They'll send her and you can pick her up. And
he goes, Now, I brought her out there, I'm going
to bring her home. So he literally flew all day, landed,
got on the next plane with her, and flew right
back that same day.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
H when you drop everything to help someone else, what
happens to everything?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Well, some of it falls by the wayside, I suppose,
but you you uh uh you know. I continue to
work and do my job, but but every other waking
moment was spent doing this. I mean every day for months,
I spent hours a day dealing with just a mess
of her affairs. Nothing was taken care of and dealt
with properly. So you know, I just literally stopped every
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other aspect of my life except just going to work.
But even at work, I was distracted with this, and
it was okay, it needed to be done, and it was.
It was quite a task.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Hmm. Okay, I'm going to write a chapter on what
you just said, because I think end of life for
a parent, and if you were experiencing it, is one
of those zero moments of truth. You're gonna you're going
to find something out about yourself that you've never learned before.
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And it's almost flipped how your mother took care of
you when you were so sick or had the fever.
It's a flip side of unconditional love.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's exactly right, and it's exactly right, and suddenly you're
in a different role. And you know, we were all adults,
so none of us were devastated. We were sad by it,
saddened by it, but we were resolved and we were
and I was very proud of all of us and
proud of my siblings because everybody stepped up and took
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on different responsibilities to help her. And you know, it
was a powerful time. And I think in those moments
in all of our lives, especially we all have aging parents,
and that's something we all will go through. You know,
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all these are opportunities to to be our best selves
and to put somebody else first. I remember the attorney
I had, I got went over and got power of
attorney so I could deal with her affairs even while
she was still alive but incapacitated. And my siblings are
extremely close. We talk every day, all of us. And ah,
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he said, you know, sometimes siblings fight over this kind
and I said, trust me, we won't fight. And he said, well,
everybody thinks that, but it gets I said, we won't fight.
And there's no chance in the world. We didn't argue
about one thing, nor would we ever especially about anything
like that. We just don't. And and it was it
was a powerful experience that brought us even closer and
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we were already very close.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, this is probably asking too much of our listening audience,
but it's when you lose your mom or dad. It's
one of the saddest moments of your life. But if
you're mindful of the experience, your heart could be shaped
to be more of a servant going forward because of
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that experience. And you shouldn't actually wait until your mom
and dad.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Have to pass away to create it or to shape
your heart of servanthood the boy that moment makes a
difference because they are the only ones that matter.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
That's so true. And I think I think it does
shape you. It does shape you, and it's an opportunity.
It's an opportunity to be of service to someone, but
it's an opportunity to learn more about yourself. And it's
a great equalizer because it's something no matter what our
walk of life is, we all experience that that phenomenon
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of losing a parent or loved one, and there's so
many different things that all of us will experience in life,
and it's a great equalizer. It brings you together and
you feel you could feel alone in those moments, but
you can also feel very, very joined with people close
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to you.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, if you allow that unifying to occur. Okay, Dan,
I know you're very busy. I've got just a few
more questions. They're pretty philosophical. But you said that we
could do this thing as spontaneous, so it's your fault
if you don't like the following question. I'm wondering, does
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a real life of significance begin at the end of
a comfort zone?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That is a great question which I have never thought about.
I think the end of a comfort I don't think so.
I think it can. I think it's really can. And
I think I think when we are younger, you know,
in our twenties and our thirties and our forties even
it can tend to be all about what you're doing,
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you know, and and the struggle to build a career
or a family or whatever it is that's important to you.
And later in life after you have you know, settled
some of those issues. I think a lot of times
that is when people turn do okay, let me, let
me try to be of service in some way. But
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I think from more philosophically about that, more specifically, I
think sometimes people do have to get out of their
comfort zone in order to serve others and in order
to contribute to In order to contribute and you have
to put yourself out there sometimes, And if I understand
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your question correctly, I think I think yes, yes, and no.
Sometimes it's at the end of a comfort zone. But
I think you have to push yourself through that those
those moments in order to put yourself out extend, take
the risk, to extend yourself and to try to be
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of service to your community or someone in that way,
because a lot, you know, a lot of people don't
to do that or don't know, you know, what path
to take, are are too self conscious about taking the
risk to walk up to a stranger and try to
help them, or go volunteer and put yourself in a
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new situation with that you may not know much about
or don't know anyone involved. If I understand your question,
I think it's both.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It is, I believe it. And the final thought on
that is that even going back to your beautiful story
about taking care of your mom, you did it with
someone else. You did it with your siblings. We we
think that it would be easier for people to take
that first first step of serving others if they did
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it with somebody else inside of a community, almost like
habitat for humanity. You can get involved with that as
a group of people, not as a solo carpenter trying
to build a house on your own. And so that
community of service becomes such a huge element. It's like
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you and Dave Goldman together.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's so much more uplifting.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Exactly exactly. So it's like, don't do things. People don't
do things solo. We're not suggesting becoming truly significant and
getting some metal. It's about being a part of a
community in a world that cares for others. So that's
that's the big deal. And last question for you, who
walks outside of that comfort zone with you today?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Who walks outside of that company? Explain a little bit more, Rick,
So I make sure I understand a question.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
When you pursue other leadership roles or volunteering, and you
know that it's better to do it as a community,
but it takes a little bit of risk taking and
stepping outside of that comfort zone. Who is that first
person that you think of that you want to travel
with outside the comfort zone to service?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Oh, I see, you know, I would, I would say
without question in this area, my wife, Angela, who is
also very involved in the community, and we are very
like minded. She is sits on boards as well, volunteers
her time helps us raise money for different things, and
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we do a lot of charity events and it's a
great joy to do them, and we both do them.
I don't mean you're always kind to be so complimentary.
We don't, you know, and I appreciate that deeply. But
you know, the key to to to a life of significance,
I think, and of contribution is do it for the
joy of doing that. The truth is you get more
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out of it than you give in some ways because
it's very personally satisfying. But don't do it for that reason.
To do it because it's just a nice thing to
do and you can help, And don't you know. I
try never to look for credit for anything or recognition
for anything. It doesn't matter. I just want to at
the end of the day, I want to feel good about,
you know, being able to do something that's nice or
helpful to somebody else just because it's a nice thing
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to do. And I've been fortunate and I'm in a
unique position. And to me, if you're in a unique
position of all kinds, the least you can do is
try to help somebody you know, or make a difference.
And I know there's a lot of people talking these
days about some of the cuts going on. Let's take
(29:44):
for example, USAID, you know, which has been those programs
have been cut and some people are concerned. What I
would encourage somebody to do if you're upset about that
or anything. And this is not political in anyway, but
what could you do anything that upsets you in your
community or work as you rather than complain about how
can I make a difference? Maybe I could find an
organization that USAID support supported somewhere around the world and
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help that organization. Maybe I could raise little money do
my part to fill that gap, even if it's small.
You know what could you do to put your finger
in the dike and help out? And I think you'd
find great satisfaction and you make a real difference if
you if you can do that. So I always encourage
people when they call and they're upset about something and
the news. Figure out, figure out how you can be involved,
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even in small ways, because then you're contributing bingo.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That wraps up the show with Dan Ashley, and that's
a perfect example of how his heart is shape and
his instinct is to serve others. We're going to continue
to shine a lout on you and your great music,
which I swear. This last song is about escapism.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
So it is let's get to the beat, and you know,
we live in such a such a complex time and
such a technology driven age. Sometimes I think the simple
pleasures in life are overlooked and that's kind of what
this song is about. Let's just get out of here
and go back walk on the beach.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's exactly right, Dan, Thank you so much. We appreciate you,
and I've changed the closing of this show to say
make it known that you still care. Lift others up.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Oh I love that. Make it known that you still care,
lift others up. That that's a great model for life.
Right there, You got it.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And it really follows what you're talking about of stop complaining,
hit the gaps and see how you can contribute to
make up the difference. So thanks again Dan for being on.
We appreciate you. And here is a cut from his
newest song that you will all love and again make
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it a part of you your summer jam. Have great week.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
And get a little loss for me, feeling like a Monday.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I think I know why Running around at Circle's time
for me to fly feels like pouring down.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
The ring without a cloud in the sky.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Gotta get away peace South, couldn't buy He gonna take in.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The sun, taking a little fun.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Me and messun white hot sand, a steel drunk man
and an ice coldager, maybe two or three.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Gonna get a lost, don't wanna be found.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Escape at all costs, get out of this town.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But I gotta know before I go. Do you wanna
get lost with me?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:14):
Get alet lost of me?
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Feel like a paddle that lost his boat that they
get out or it's all Shoe wrote, feeling kind of
strange these days, and I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Gotta get away, be south goodbye, Gonna beget the sun
to get a.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
Little fun made me?
Speaker 9 (33:41):
Some white hot said, steal.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Trump man with you riding next to me?
Speaker 10 (33:49):
How about why you keep gonna get a lost?
Speaker 8 (33:55):
Don't want to be found.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Musca, but old cost.
Speaker 10 (34:03):
Get out of this time.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
But I gotta know before I go.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Do you wanna get a loss with me?
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Get a little loss with me.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You need to.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
See the sand between your toes, taste.
Speaker 11 (34:28):
The salt inn island there I'll die and reflexos coastal
and wants the breeze in your head.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Don't make it the sun.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Take a little fun need me?
Speaker 9 (34:58):
Some Wayne had said, still trump then and you dancing
there with me?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Just wait and see.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
Gonna get a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Don't want to.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Be found.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
A scared battle costs.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Get out of this town.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So I gotta know before I go.
Speaker 10 (35:27):
Until you want to get lost with me? Yeah, get
a little lost.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Let's get a little lost.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Come over and get a little lost. You gotta get
a little lost at me,
Escape it.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I got before you want to get.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
A Welcome back, Dan Ashley, anchor of ABC seven News
in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Rick, thank you so much. It's great to be back
on with you, my friend. Great to see you. You
look wonderful and I'm just honored to be back on
the program.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, you are so much fun. The first show we
did was honoring your dad, and this show you said
we could wing it. So we're gonna ask you some
more questions on being We.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Can wing it whatever you want, but.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I would love for you to just give a as
we say, Rick, as we say it my job, I'm sorry,
as we say my job as a reporter.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Only the question gets you in tru Only the answer
gets you in trouble. Never the question. So ask whatever
you wish.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
That is great. You know, since the last time we
had Dan on, he has volunteered to be on the
board of directors for Truly Significant dot Com. And I
hope you don't reverse your decision after this interview.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I hope you don't rescind the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Okay, it was Dan's idea.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Just support what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I appreciate that it was Dan's idea to have this
spontaneous combustion of a podcast today, and so I'm going
to ask him questions that he doesn't know about yet.
Here's the first one. What other person? What person do
you think of that is figured out living significant significantly
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where they both serve others while enriching their own lives
with joy and meaning.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh, that's such an excellent question. What person do I
model myself out? Well, there's certainly some people that I
know here locally that I think in the San Francisco
Bay area that are good examples of that. One, for example,
is my dear friend Dave Goldman, who founded Friends of
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Camp Conquered that I serve on the board and we
host a charity golf tournament. Has a successful printing business.
But he many years ago, thirty years ago now, decided
he wanted to help young people who wouldn't otherwise have
the opportunity to go to Sart be able to make
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that trip up to Tahoe, and so he formed Friends
of Camp Conquered and over those years he and I,
he got me involved. All those years ago, he and I,
through the golf tournament have sent over twelve thousand heads
now is the updated number twelve thousand kids this summer camp,
all expenses paid. He's an example of someone who lives
a full and rich life as a business person, but
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also who carves out a lot of time to give
back to the community through that organization and making sure
kids get to go to camp, and he coaches basketball.
He loves to be involved in young people's lives. So
he's someone that I would point to as someone who
seems to have found a great balance in his life,
doing well in career but also in community.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Wow, how can we clone him?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
He's a terrific guy and a lot of fun. I
really have a lot of friends and know a lot
of people who I could point to that have similar stories. Actually,
Rick I gravitate to those people and like to associate
with them, and I think we're like minded in that way.
And so I can point to a number of people
actually who I think exemplify that life of significance.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, that that is so evident in your own journey
and you have you now serve on a variety of boards.
And I wonder, though, Dan, when you look back on it,
what prompted your very first step towards significance in helping
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other people?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Rick? I can answer that really in one word, which
is gratitude. And you know, I've been fortunate in my
life to be healthy so far, knock on wood, to
have had a career that a professional career that exemplifies
everything that I wanted to do in terms of contributing
as a journalist and as a reporter and doing my
(04:52):
best to inform the public of things happening in our
community and our world. And so it's it's gone well,
you know, And and so a gratitude, I think, you know,
is what has driven a lot of what I do
in life, and the recognition that I've been fortunate, and
you know, it all comes from work. Nothing comes from nothing.
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I work very hard, but I've had the opportunity to
work hard and to do well. And so I wanted
to make sure I contribute back in some small ways
to you know, make a difference in other ways beyond
just my profession, but be part of the community. Because
one of the things about this job, Brick, as you
(05:36):
well know, is that I'm given a unique place in
the community because of my job, and so I wanted
to try to be worthy of that and use that
in a way that is positive and that honors the
opportunity that I've been given. I do it through music too.
I do a lot of charity things with music, and
it's a chance to connect with people in different ways.
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So gratitude, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's a part of that heart condition. And we're trying
to study that, I think, probably for the next five
or ten years and figuring out what's at the heart
of a person that serves others. And I came across
an article by Dan Rather, who was exploring the instinct
(06:23):
for service, and I want to read you something that
I'm paraphrasing it, but he said, there was a time
when some form of military service was a prerequisite for politicians.
Why should there be some inclination toward personal sacrifice and
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the need to help others before anyone enters public office?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Well said, I think that gets that kind of service
gives you a unique perspective, unique appreciation for the opportunities
that we have here. It is, you know, sometimes not
everyone bears the equal load in defending our country. And
(07:13):
you know, actually one of the things that if I
could change anything, I would have done two years of
service or at least reserve officer or reserve service person
because I I would have loved to contribute in that
way for a couple of years when I was younger.
If I could do That's one thing I would do.
Over most other things I wouldn't change, but I would
have loved the opportunity to have done that. I think
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it's important, and I think when you go into public life,
I don't know that it should be a requirement necessarily,
but some of our best leaders in history have been
those that have served. Because if you're going to be
the commander in chief, if you're going to put people
in harm's way, and not just as a president, but
it's a senator or a congress person, you know, voting
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on these issues.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's exactly Ryan, I want you to go even deeper
with me on this one. You know that we study
core values and how they're actually actually people walk to
talk with core values. And if you study virtues, you
know that old saying. Probably your mom and dad taught
(08:19):
you that patience is virtuous. And so here's here's my
line of thinking. If patience is a virtue, what about
service to others? Could that be a virtue or is it?
Dan Ashley, should it be considered a necessity?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I think I mean core values. I think if you're
talking about core values, I would I would say that
there are necessity are honesty, integrity. Your word is your bond,
you know. I always say that, you know, I we
signed contracts at work, you know, the anchors and the reporters,
(08:58):
and those are it. I could done that on a handshake.
If I tell you I'm going to do some four
years or three years, I will do it, you know,
even if it's no longer to my advantage. So I
think I think probably at the top of that list,
I would say, is is honesty? You know, is in sincerity?
We have to be we have to conduct ourselves in
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a way that I always say, you know, acts like
your mom's watching all the time, that that will change
a lot of behavior if you think about your mom
watching it. Oh, you know, next time you're stuck in
traffic and somebody is trying to cut you off, should
I hank my horn? Should I be ugly about this
or should I let them? What would you do if
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your mom was sitting in that car with you.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Wow, that's a truly significant statement and scary at this
same time.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was sober up right away. I mean, you'll think
about a lot of things. I actually had Freddy Rick.
A couple of months ago. This guy called my wife, Angela,
who's an attorney and a lovely and very smart woman,
and uh was said he was a sheriff's deputy and
he gave his name, and that there was an outstanding
(10:14):
you didn't show for jury duty. So this one judge
and that the only one that does it this way,
has issued a warrant if you got to go on
to this side, pay this fine, and you know, blah
blah blaha. And she called me and said, what you said?
Ignore it? What's the guy's name? I called my friend
at the Sheriff's office and do you have anyone working
there by this name? And he said, we used to.
They retired, so they get a name and use a
(10:37):
real name. I called this guy and had a slight
you know, I'm from the South, from North Carolina. I
live in California now. But he had a slight Southern accent.
He sounded exactly like a sheriff's detective or deputy would
And I called him and he played a great game.
It's just all a con. And at the end, I said,
you know, I got to tell you I've done some checking.
You're not who just say you are, and I am
(10:58):
a reporter, so I want to ask you a few questions.
And he got very mad with me and defensive. And
the last question I asked him, brick to the point
we just made, I said, the last question I want
to ask you is does your mother know you do
this for a living?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
God, that's a killer question. Wow.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And and as I honestly said, does your mother know
you do this for a living? And his answer actually
kind of shocked me, which is it's a sad So
he said, I do this to my mother, So shame
on him.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
But wow, that's actually not too far of a departure
from what we're trying to accomplish today, because what we're
striving here is to say what is at the heart
of a person that serves others? And we're going to
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take a two minute break and let Dan catch his
breath and we will be right back. So stand by Dan. Okay,
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And we are back with the one and only Dan Ashley.
We're talking about a number of things, but primarily it's
at the heart of anyone that lives a life of
significance and one of the things Dan that since the
last time you know I talked, We're starting to break
this thing down into moments, and the moments the shape
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of heart. And so here's a question for you. Over
the last ten years, when have you been at your
very best?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That's a great question, over the last ten years? When
have I been at my very best? You know, I
would probably say I would probably say when my mother,
who still lived in the home I grew up in
in North Carolina with my siblings and my father, had
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a stroke unexpectedly. We're all very, very close. I have
a great mom story to tell you. I'd love to
share with you that involves music at some point if
we have time to do it. And she had the
stroke out of the blue, and we all called her
almost every day ever since her Her husband had died
a few years prior. She had this stroke, and we
(15:05):
didn't know it. We were calling and the phone was
off the hook, and I called my siblings, Hey, anybody
heard from Mom? And we found out that poor thing
had spent the whole night having had a stroke and
was incapacitated in a chair in her living room. So
we sent the police over, kicking the door and get
her out, and you know, that was a sudden shock,
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and I was probably at my best because my siblings
were two all of us, there's four of us total,
because we immediately sprang into action to take care of
her and to settle her affairs. We made great arrangements
to move her out here after a rehab that was
not going to produce anything. She was entirely paralyzed on
her side, and her personality had changed. She was incredibly
(15:52):
off the charts on an IQ score woman. She was very,
very bright, and they said that she probably retained some
of her pacity because she was so smart that even
though she lost twenty percent, she was still doing okay.
But we pulled together in a unique way and served
her and handled those affairs. And then when she passed away,
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it was just a graceful period. My two brothers and
I and I have a sister too. My two brothers
and I met at her house and spent a week
cleaning it out. And to say I was at my best,
I was at my best because even though it was
a challenging time, we were strong in those moments and
we were I did in that moment, and to me,
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I look back at that actually quite fondly, even though
we said that she was gone, But just that period
of time, over the course of about a year a
year and a half illness up until we buried her,
it was very It was kind of beautiful in a way.
The way we all worked together brought us all closer,
and there was something reassuring about it. And I would
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probably say that was a moment. Then. I had this
a moment years ago with my kids that we needed
to rally behind them.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I think I've been at my best in those moments
when there's been some problem and it required you to.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Put down everything that you were doing and focus on
somebody else's issue or problem and try to make your
way through it the best you can.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Being best.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Is that a satisfactor answer. I mean, that's what I
would point to.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
There's no judgment on your answers. It's about the wisdom
that is bleeding from your answer, which is that it
was a unifying moment. You were closer and you were
focused on of solving a human problem and serving somebody else.
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That's the essence of this whole time.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, I mean we were, Yeah, and that you know,
that was That's what it was. I thought about it
in that contexts until you asked this question, Rick. But
that's I guess why I would say I felt like
I was because we dropped everything to take care of
her and her situation and her affairs, and nothing else
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really mattered. You know. And my middle brother, who's just
an incredible guy, and he works for the federal government
in Washington and just a remarkable guy, has some of
the I always say about my brother David. You could, literally, Rick,
just meet him today and hand him your entire life
(18:45):
savings in a briefcase and say, would you meet me
on this corner in ten years, and I promise you
would not need to lose a night's sleep. He will
meet you on that corner in ten years with your money.
He is uncorruptible, but he it was such a touching thing.
He flew mom out with a Nurse's a big strong guy,
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a nurse to help her on the plane. And after
she was in rehab here or in a care home here,
and after she passed away, I remember him saying in
the room after she died, he said to her quietly,
don't worry, Mom, We'll get you home. He was very touching,
and it was about a week before they we shipped
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her back to North Carolina. He had gone back home
and he said, I'm going to fly out and fly
with her. And I said, David, you don't need to
do that. You know, you don't need to do that.
They'll send her and you can pick her up. And
he goes, Now, I brought her out there, I'm going
to bring her home. So he literally flew all day, landed,
got on the next plane with her, and flew right
back that same day.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
H when you drop everything to help someone else, what
happens to everything?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Well, some of it falls by the wayside, I suppose,
but you you uh uh you know. I continue to
work and do my job, but but every other waking
moment was spent doing this. I mean every day for months,
I spent hours a day dealing with just a mess
of her affairs. Nothing was taken care of and dealt
with properly. So you know, I just literally stopped every
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other aspect of my life except just going to work.
But even at work, I was distracted with this, and
it was okay, it needed to be done, and it was.
It was quite a task.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Hmm. Okay, I'm going to write a chapter on what
you just said, because I think end of life for
a parent, and if you were experiencing it, is one
of those zero moments of truth. You're gonna you're going
to find something out about yourself that you've never learned before.
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And it's almost flipped how your mother took care of
you when you were so sick or had the fever.
It's a flip side of unconditional love.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
That's exactly right, and it's exactly right, and suddenly you're
in a different role. And you know, we were all adults,
so none of us were devastated. We were sad by it,
saddened by it, but we were resolved and we were
and I was very proud of all of us and
proud of my siblings because everybody stepped up and took
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on different responsibilities to help her. And you know, it
was a powerful time. And I think in those moments
in all of our lives, especially we all have aging parents,
and that's something we all will go through. You know,
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all these are opportunities to to be our best selves
and to put somebody else first. I remember the attorney
I had, I got went over and got power of
attorney so I could deal with her affairs even while
she was still alive but incapacitated. And my siblings are
extremely close. We talk every day, all of us. And ah,
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he said, you know, sometimes siblings fight over this kind
and I said, trust me, we won't fight. And he said, well,
everybody thinks that, but it gets I said, we won't fight.
And there's no chance in the world. We didn't argue
about one thing, nor would we ever especially about anything
like that. We just don't. And and it was it
was a powerful experience that brought us even closer and
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we were already very close.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah, this is probably asking too much of our listening audience,
but it's when you lose your mom or dad. It's
one of the saddest moments of your life. But if
you're mindful of the experience, your heart could be shaped
to be more of a servant going forward because of
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that experience. And you shouldn't actually wait until your mom
and dad.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Have to pass away to create it or to shape
your heart of servanthood the boy that moment makes a
difference because they are the only ones that matter.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
That's so true. And I think I think it does
shape you. It does shape you, and it's an opportunity.
It's an opportunity to be of service to someone, but
it's an opportunity to learn more about yourself. And it's
a great equalizer because it's something no matter what our
walk of life is, we all experience that that phenomenon
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of losing a parent or loved one, and there's so
many different things that all of us will experience in life,
and it's a great equalizer. It brings you together and
you feel you could feel alone in those moments, but
you can also feel very, very joined with people close
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to you.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, if you allow that unifying to occur. Okay, Dan,
I know you're very busy. I've got just a few
more questions. They're pretty philosophical. But you said that we
could do this thing as spontaneous, so it's your fault
if you don't like the following question. I'm wondering, does
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a real life of significance begin at the end of
a comfort zone?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That is a great question which I have never thought about.
I think the end of a comfort I don't think so.
I think it can. I think it's really can. And
I think I think when we are younger, you know,
in our twenties and our thirties and our forties even
it can tend to be all about what you're doing,
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you know, and and the struggle to build a career
or a family or whatever it is that's important to you.
And later in life after you have you know, settled
some of those issues. I think a lot of times
that is when people turn do okay, let me, let
me try to be of service in some way. But
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I think from more philosophically about that, more specifically, I
think sometimes people do have to get out of their
comfort zone in order to serve others and in order
to contribute to In order to contribute and you have
to put yourself out there sometimes, And if I understand
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your question correctly, I think I think yes, yes, and no.
Sometimes it's at the end of a comfort zone. But
I think you have to push yourself through that those
those moments in order to put yourself out extend, take
the risk, to extend yourself and to try to be
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of service to your community or someone in that way,
because a lot, you know, a lot of people don't
to do that or don't know, you know, what path
to take, are are too self conscious about taking the
risk to walk up to a stranger and try to
help them, or go volunteer and put yourself in a
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new situation with that you may not know much about
or don't know anyone involved. If I understand your question,
I think it's both.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It is, I believe it. And the final thought on
that is that even going back to your beautiful story
about taking care of your mom, you did it with
someone else. You did it with your siblings. We we
think that it would be easier for people to take
that first first step of serving others if they did
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it with somebody else inside of a community, almost like
habitat for humanity. You can get involved with that as
a group of people, not as a solo carpenter trying
to build a house on your own. And so that
community of service becomes such a huge element. It's like
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you and Dave Goldman together.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's so much more uplifting.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Exactly exactly. So it's like, don't do things. People don't
do things solo. We're not suggesting becoming truly significant and
getting some metal. It's about being a part of a
community in a world that cares for others. So that's
that's the big deal. And last question for you, who
walks outside of that comfort zone with you today?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Who walks outside of that company? Explain a little bit more, Rick,
So I make sure I understand a question.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
When you pursue other leadership roles or volunteering, and you
know that it's better to do it as a community,
but it takes a little bit of risk taking and
stepping outside of that comfort zone. Who is that first
person that you think of that you want to travel
with outside the comfort zone to service?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Oh, I see, you know, I would, I would say
without question in this area, my wife, Angela, who is
also very involved in the community, and we are very
like minded. She is sits on boards as well, volunteers
her time helps us raise money for different things, and
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we do a lot of charity events and it's a
great joy to do them, and we both do them.
I don't mean you're always kind to be so complimentary.
We don't, you know, and I appreciate that deeply. But
you know, the key to to to a life of significance,
I think, and of contribution is do it for the
joy of doing that. The truth is you get more
(29:02):
out of it than you give in some ways because
it's very personally satisfying. But don't do it for that reason.
To do it because it's just a nice thing to
do and you can help, And don't you know. I
try never to look for credit for anything or recognition
for anything. It doesn't matter. I just want to at
the end of the day, I want to feel good about,
you know, being able to do something that's nice or
helpful to somebody else just because it's a nice thing
(29:24):
to do. And I've been fortunate and I'm in a
unique position. And to me, if you're in a unique
position of all kinds, the least you can do is
try to help somebody you know, or make a difference.
And I know there's a lot of people talking these
days about some of the cuts going on. Let's take
(29:44):
for example, USAID, you know, which has been those programs
have been cut and some people are concerned. What I
would encourage somebody to do if you're upset about that
or anything. And this is not political in anyway, but
what could you do anything that upsets you in your
community or work as you rather than complain about how
can I make a difference? Maybe I could find an
organization that USAID support supported somewhere around the world and
(30:09):
help that organization. Maybe I could raise little money do
my part to fill that gap, even if it's small.
You know what could you do to put your finger
in the dike and help out? And I think you'd
find great satisfaction and you make a real difference if
you if you can do that. So I always encourage
people when they call and they're upset about something and
the news. Figure out, figure out how you can be involved,
(30:32):
even in small ways, because then you're contributing bingo.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
That wraps up the show with Dan Ashley, and that's
a perfect example of how his heart is shape and
his instinct is to serve others. We're going to continue
to shine a lout on you and your great music,
which I swear. This last song is about escapism.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
So it is let's get to the beat, and you know,
we live in such a such a complex time and
such a technology driven age. Sometimes I think the simple
pleasures in life are overlooked and that's kind of what
this song is about. Let's just get out of here
and go back walk on the beach.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That's exactly right, Dan, Thank you so much. We appreciate you,
and I've changed the closing of this show to say
make it known that you still care. Lift others up.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Oh I love that. Make it known that you still care,
lift others up. That that's a great model for life.
Right there, You got it.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And it really follows what you're talking about of stop complaining,
hit the gaps and see how you can contribute to
make up the difference. So thanks again Dan for being on.
We appreciate you. And here is a cut from his
newest song that you will all love and again make
(31:59):
it a part of you your summer jam. Have great week.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
And get a little loss for me, feeling like a Monday.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I think I know why Running around at Circle's time
for me to fly feels like pouring down.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
The ring without a cloud in the sky.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Gotta get away peace South, couldn't buy He gonna take in.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The sun, taking a little fun.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Me and messun white hot sand, a steel drunk man
and an ice coldager, maybe two or three.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Gonna get a lost, don't wanna be found.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Escape at all costs, get out of this town.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
But I gotta know before I go. Do you wanna
get lost with me?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (33:14):
Get alet lost of me?
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Feel like a paddle that lost his boat that they
get out or it's all Shoe wrote, feeling kind of
strange these days, and I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Gotta get away, be south goodbye, Gonna beget the sun
to get a.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
Little fun made me?
Speaker 9 (33:41):
Some white hot said, steal.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Trump man with you riding next to me?
Speaker 10 (33:49):
How about why you keep gonna get a lost?
Speaker 8 (33:55):
Don't want to be found.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Musca, but old cost.
Speaker 10 (34:03):
Get out of this time.
Speaker 8 (34:07):
But I gotta know before I go.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Do you wanna get a loss with me?
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Get a little loss with me.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You need to.
Speaker 9 (34:24):
See the sand between your toes, taste.
Speaker 11 (34:28):
The salt inn island there I'll die and reflexos coastal
and wants the breeze in your head.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Don't make it the sun.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Take a little fun need me?
Speaker 9 (34:58):
Some Wayne had said, still trump then and you dancing
there with me?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Just wait and see.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
Gonna get a lot.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Don't want to.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Be found.
Speaker 9 (35:17):
A scared battle costs.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Get out of this town.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So I gotta know before I go.
Speaker 10 (35:27):
Until you want to get lost with me? Yeah, get
a little lost.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Let's get a little lost.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Come over and get a little lost. You gotta get
a little lost at me,
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