SUNDAY WIRE EP 548 – 'Israel: Making of a Pariah State' with Alon Mizrahi, Hesher & Ruckus - Sunday Wire with Patrick Henningsen

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this week's edition of
The Sunday Wire. I'm your host, Patrick Henningson. We're streaming
out live on the Alternate Current Radio Network, also twenty
first Century wire dot com. Also streaming out live on
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Bitshoot as well. We're on all those live streams as
well as the audio streams after the program. If you're

(00:48):
subscribing to Spotify, iTunes or any of those audio platforms,
we're on all of them basically, so we will be
springing the show out on MP three format after the show.
As you well and thank you. We have a well.
We had an interesting show plan today. I mean, we
had a little bit of a technical problem with our guest.

(01:09):
And one of the reasons why we have a technical
problem is because the platform called X run by Elon
musk Is, has been going haywire all week. People's dms
are disappearing, their timelines are disappearing. My tweets are not
visible to even my followers. They have to go and

(01:31):
do searches to find them. They're not visible. The comments
aren't visible in my tweets. I know I'm being shadow
band obviously, and I'm watching the followers go in reverse,
which was interesting this week because normally, when you get
to you know, you're supposed to get somewhat exponential growth
after one hundred and fifty thousand followers, and normally your
account grows. Mine is going backwards, which is interesting. And

(01:56):
a lot of people are sending me messages complaining, Patrick,
we don't see your content. What's going on. What's going
on is there is throttling on X So when Elon
Musk's promise of a free speech platform is a blatant lie,
they're basically throttling speech they don't like. So you have
freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. That's ex Twitter, okay,

(02:20):
and especially content that is critical of Israel right now.
And it's funny that big tech platforms like Meta have
reverted to doing mass censorship in the last couple of weeks.
For me, it's been for a few months, but really
bad on Meta last week or so. And after this
is so called shooting or whatever it was in Washington,

(02:42):
d C. We're still trying to work out the details
of that very strange event. Israeli diplomats. The male was
a Christian Zionist who is shot. But all the congressman
senators said he was Jewish, So nobody seems to know
what the actual fact. The whole thing looks very shady,
but it triggered a whole wave of censorship. The ADL,

(03:05):
the Apartheid Defense League, I mean sorry, the Anti Defamation League,
got that right. They're putting pressure on all the big
tech platforms to censor across the board. What's meant to
be anti Semitic speech, which is anything that criticizes the
government of Israel that's currently in the dock at the

(03:25):
International Courts of Justice for genocide. So if you criticize
that genocide, the bombing and forced starvation of hundreds of
thousands millions of civilians, including many women and children, who
are being bombed in their refugee tents by F thirty
five's by Israel with US bombs, If you criticize that,

(03:47):
that's anti Semitic, believe it or not. According to Meta
and Elon Musk's X run by their CEO, who is
a looks to be a Zionist or some kind of
extreme partisan. So and meanwhile, all the governments are pivoting
admitting it's a genocide, So isn't that funny. The moment

(04:10):
governments are finally relenting and pivoting, changing the narrative, admitting
that there's a genocide going on at the hands of Israel,
the big tech platforms begin censoring people calling out the brutality.
Calling out the atrocites doesn't make any sense, does it?
But this is big tech world in Oceania on airstrip one.

(04:37):
It doesn't make any sense. It's not meant to make
any sense. It's not meant to make ask Winston Smith.
It's not meant to make any sense. That's the world
these people run. So it's if you're a content creator,
it's not a level playing field on Exit's not on YouTube,

(04:58):
it's not on on Facebook and Instagram, it's not. In fact,
if you say the wrong things at the wrong time,
even if they're true, you'll be shadow band. At the
least worse, you'll be outright censored. Your posts will get
taken down and like some other high profile accounts this week,

(05:19):
your whole account with three hundred thousand followers will be deleted.
And that happened to an Irish comedian. We've had one
of the best accounts on Instagram this week. I've got
that up on my x feed if you can find
it at twenty one wire, if you can find my tweets.

(05:40):
I try to keep people breast. So this is interesting
how this is shaping up. And again we're supposed to
have Alan mis Rahi, who is a fantastic guest, and
a lot of our listeners saying we're so happy that
you're going to be interviewing Alan, who's got very unique
insights on the situation in Israel and Palestine, one of

(06:02):
the most unique commentators. He'll try to hopefully if we can.
He probably lost the messages like so many other people
this the last few days, but hopefully if we do
get a chance to link up with him, he'll come
in live hot on the stream. So we'll see if
Alan makes it. If not, we will do our best

(06:24):
to reschedule this interview because this is one that a
lot of people requested, so it's definitely one worth listening to.
I know it'll be a fantastic conversation. So we'll see
if Alan drifts in through the matrix somehow, and so
so that's that's all happening, and this is this is

(06:45):
why this is interesting. X is a train wreck from
an app? So like we're wondering, and so this is
of course I'm asking who's coding, who's doing the code
on this website? Is is Elon running an AI doing
the coding? Is that why everything is malfunctioning? Is that

(07:07):
why the the app is a train wreck? Is it
because of that? Or is Elon's son, his five year
old son, doing the coding? Has he put his kids
in charge? Some of his kids doing running the the
operations department at x I mean, what what's going on?
Do they have qualified people? Because no one, no one's

(07:31):
ever seen an app malfunction like this before, not any
of the major platforms. You'd think that there would be
resources allocated to them to prevent this type of disaster,
especially considering Elon decided to charge people obscene amounts of
money to have quote premium accounts and they still throddling, censoring,

(07:52):
disappearing even people who pay, and getting besieged with bots.
Another promise that was broken by must. The other thing
Elon promised was there'd be transparency on the algorithm. If
people were being throttled in shadow Band, that they would
be able to go and see and know why they're
being it's totally opaque. Unfortunately, it's totally opaque. There is

(08:17):
no transparency at all. Your stuff just disappears and you
can't find out why. Many different times tagged support nothing.
So here's my point. Here's my point. This guy is

(08:37):
basically tweeted. I'll bring up one of these tweets. I
don't know if I've got it or not. But he's
doing a mission to Mars or life interplanetary human species.
On Monday Night on X, Elon's promoting this, and so
he's he's saying he's going to build a Mars colony
kind of like Miami or Dubai in Mars, and that's

(08:58):
going to happen, you know, pretty quick, right, And he
can't even run an app, So you trust Elon Musk
is going to build Dubai in Mars by what did
he promise twenty twenty thirty five or some stupid Is

(09:20):
that really going to work? Who believes all this? We
don't have any problems here on Earth, do we? Everyone's
perfectly fine. We're all billionaires, right, everybody is a billionaire.
No problems here on Earth. No problems for some people,
no problems for some people. But a whole host of

(09:42):
problems for most people, and they're selling you this literal
pie in the sky at this point. I mean, it's
okay to have theoretical conversations and maybe planned for some
type of expansion of the space pro but this, it
almost seems like this is gaslighting at this point. So

(10:06):
that's that's all I'm trying to say. So hold on
one second. I think we have our guest. Yeah, I
think we have our guest. How let me just ask
him how long? And Alan Musrahi managed to x has
finally refresh its dms where we feel so privileged that

(10:28):
we can pay to use this app that can't even
do basic functions, and that's going on for like almost
a week now, so it's pretty pretty outrageous, pretty crazy.
So anyway, hopefully we will be able to get Alan
up on stage again. There's another story which we'll probably

(10:48):
we'll probably talk about in the Overdrive with Hesher Rucus,
perhaps Basil Valentine if you can make it, and that's
about this obscene, crazy scene that took place at the
White House with Donald Trump who invited the South African
President Cyril Ramaposa, and it was one of the most

(11:13):
embarrassing things that we've ever seen. I can't imagine in
my lifetime if I've seen anything this cringe worthy. Well
we'll we'll give you a little taste of this. But
so so, he invites the South African President to come
to the White House. And the thing that's really obscene
about Trump, which I think is really kind of disgusting

(11:35):
and disrespectful, is he'll invite people and have this whole
gang of people there, you know, all these sort of
you know, rongings to intimidate the person that's visiting. No
other state person does this, no other It's almost like,
you know, the king in his court. It's like Paul
Pott in his court, most most most strange thing ever.

(11:59):
And so he brings in all of his gang to
almost like an inquisition with Trump basically there to embarrass
the South African president, and right there in front of
America in the world, Black Blank accuses the South African
president of carrying out white genocide, white genocide in South

(12:22):
Africa and then turns down the lights and plays cherry
picked clips with no context attached to them at all.
One of them was a scene. We've got this up
on screen here, We've got a great analysis of this
whole tobaccle right here. Hold on, so you know, just

(12:45):
contacting our guests there, we've got a great analysis up
at twenty first century wire dot com and this whole
tobacco here, which a full breakdown. Again, this is thanks
to our team, especially Freddie Ponton putting some of this together.
But all the details are here, completely debunking everything that
was presented by Trump and his team. It's embarrassing actually

(13:11):
even the Afrikaans representative admitting there's no white genocide in
South Africa. So Trump basically told one of the biggest
lies that any US president I think is done in public. Again,
we've got it all broken down here, including all the
numbers and the political background, the context of all the

(13:32):
statements made by said persons and what it actually means.
So all the things that you didn't get from Trump's
basically ambush of Cerah Ramaposa, We've got it. It's all there,
and a lot of people have reached out to us
saying this is the best breakdown of the subject that
they've seen on the internet, full stop period. And again

(13:53):
I reported on it on the UK column as well.
So I don't know where to start on this. But
it's a total lie. It's we've demolished this. And so
who's behind this, behind this is clearly Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
So Elon Musk wants revenge against the South African government,
which he claims is racist. It's supposed apartheid government. This
is the sort of front that Musk has. He's a
little bit on he's on a bit of a power
trip at the moment. He's supposed to apartheid government. Blacks
have been under substigation for what one hundred and fifty years,

(14:34):
They've only had a country for three thirty years, and
Elon Musk's accusing them of being racist with no evidence. Okay,
And so they lied about a couple of key aspects
of it. And we'll bring this back up on screen here.
What they lied about was you see this picture in

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the background, all these white crosses in these the cars
lining up with all those white crosses along the side
of the road there you see those That was a
clip from a documentary done in twenty twenty. Okay, And
and Trump is saying that that was a Those are
mass graves of white farmers killed in South Africa. Now,

(15:18):
I don't want to call the President of United States
an idiot, but he's really stretching it here, Okay, really
stretching it. And we'll let Trump off the hook. We'll
say his advisors are idiots. And whoever put this one together?
I mean, who put this one together for Trump? Was
it Dan Scavino? Was it Stephen Miller? Like, who is

(15:39):
the genius that put this one together? Okay, this film,
the clip they cherry picked out this film. They're not graves.
Those are memorials to a two farmers, husband and wife
that were killed in twenty twenty. Okay, So they put

(16:00):
out hundreds of crosses, and they brought all the community together,
black and white, blacks and whites. Put that memorial up
and was designed to bring the community together, black farmers,
white farmers, workers, residents. So what Elon and Trump did
was cynically take something that was a message of unity

(16:22):
and turn it into a message of division to stoke
race hatred between blacks and whites. Donald Trump, his team,
Marco Rubio, Elon Musk did exactly that. That is unforgivable.
That is unforgivable, and they just did it, and we've
obviously debunked it. As well as many other people. It's embarrassing.

(16:46):
It's embarrassing to have to show people the truth on this.
And you know, it's not as if we have advanced
tools or anything. We have access to Google, search engines
and YouTube. That's all it. Really, it's such hard work. Donald.
It took me, you know, five minutes, five minutes to

(17:07):
thoroughly demolish everything you showed when you tried to shanghai
the president of South Africa who came in good faith
and you did something in very bad faith. Okay, I
mean it's really you set back relations with a country
that had good relations with America forever and you just

(17:28):
basically set it back permanently. Maybe very disrespectful, that's an understatement,
But that wasn't the end of it. Trump cited legislation
claiming that the Black government, as they like to refer
to it or portray it as, that they passed a

(17:49):
law where they're confiscating white farmers land without compensation. Okay,
sounds good alongside the white genocide talking point. It all
seems to make sense in the convoluted mind of the
ignoramus and the idiot savant. But actually that is funny.

(18:10):
They're saying that this is authoritarian black legislation against white people.
It turns out it's the opposite, and again they twisted reality.
Marc Rubio ran with this lie after Musk tweeted it,
and of course Trump just ate it up like it
was a freshly baked apple pie. Alamode. Okay, the legislation

(18:35):
passed by South Africa was a reform of a nineteen
seventy five law on government expropriation of land in apartheid
era government law. What do you think that apartheid era

(18:55):
legislation contained, Probably some antiquated, outdated, perhaps unequal rules. This
was an update past this year by the South African
government that ensures due process for the expropriation, including compensation,

(19:17):
full due process, so it corrects, it updates a bad
piece of legislation from the apartheid era. Now the United
States has eminent domain laws. They can come in and
take your land whenever they want for government use, and
they may or may not pay compensation. Who knows, and
it may not be fair, and that happens all the time. England,

(19:42):
every European country has similar legislation. Okay, it's not it's
nothing new, but it's its nothing to do with stealing
the land of white farmers in South Africa. So again
Trump his team, they fabricated a huge liebe against the
country of South Africa. And you have to ask why.

(20:03):
It's very simple. They're punishing South Africa. They're punishing them
for filing a case in the ICJ against Israel for genocide.
So see the gas lighting folks creating a mirage, an
illusion of a quote white genocide that doesn't exist. Go
to my ex feed. I got testimony from South Africans,

(20:26):
white South Africans, many of them saying there's no genocide here.
There's no white genocide. Gaslighting you away from an actual
genocide being carried out by US ally Israel with US bombs.
So they're punishing South Africa for daring to challenge Israel.
That's what this is about. And then also because the

(20:48):
government of South Africa is basically prohibiting Elon Musk's starlink
from having a monopoly in that country. So Elon's getting
his revenge and trying to humiliate Sarah Ramaposa in this
in this awful scene in the White House. I mean,
it's really a humiliation for America on the world stage.

(21:12):
It is really I can't as an American, I cannot
describe what a low point this is. Okay, at least
Joe Biden has the excuse of being, you know, having
dementia or being senile. And now I'm wondering, how is
Trump compassmentis? Is there something going on there? Can anyone

(21:33):
be this detached from reality seriously? Or maybe he's just
it's all a big TV show and he can't work
out what's real and what's not. It's hard to know. Honestly,
it's hard to know. Anyway, We broke it down and
the details are there, The receipts are there, video clips,

(21:54):
time stamps, everything. So if you want to debate this
topic with anybody that's on the fence, just go grab
this article at twenty at our website twenty first century
wire dot com and you will be very well informed.
I assure you on that. Now we've had a great
stroke of luck. We've managed to iron out our technical

(22:14):
issues there. We're going to connect our guest who is
coming to us live from somewhere in North America and
le see if I can bring them up on stage.
Alan ms Rae, Hey.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Hey, Patrick, so happy to be with you again.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, it's great to be with you as well. Yeah,
the ex app Alan has been going haywire this week.
I don't know if you've experienced it everybody. So we're
missing DMS. It's where a lot of us are congregating
off platform now because we just don't know if this
is a reliable platform or not.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
So, but it's very, very emblematic of the Trump administration
and Elon Musk in it. I mean, this is it
works like the US is working now.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
So just before we get started on this important conversation, Alan,
I was just telling our listeners earlier, if Elon can't
manage this app, how is he going to build Dubai
in Mars by twenty thirty five? Just honestly fair question. Yeah, okay,

(23:26):
let's get to the topic at hand. Elon, and again,
thank you for joining us. This has been a very
difficult period for a lot of people. You know, it's
been difficult for the last twenty months for everyone, Alan,
but it's especially difficult since Trump has become president, because

(23:46):
there was a lot of hope coming in with this
ceasefire that was announced in Gaza, and people suddenly saw,
oh my gosh, the clouds are partying here, we're getting
some sunlight. Perhaps they're going to let aid in and
you know, we're going to somehow, you know, somehow patch
together this awful, awful moment in history. And what's happened

(24:07):
in the last three months, Alan has just gotten steadily worse.
And I didn't think that was possible, quite frankly. And
it's just deteriorating on so many different levels. And I
see your frustration on your channel, the Mizrahi Perspective, and
we featured one of your videos this week. You're saying
that we're past politics now, you know, And I want

(24:29):
you to talk about that. But first of all, I
mean a lot of people aren't familiar with you, Alan
and your story. Just a little bit of your life background,
like your life in Israel and where you are and
where you've come to now today in twenty twenty five,
and then we'll talk about the issues at hand, But

(24:49):
go ahead, okay.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I grew up as a normal Israeli in northern Israel,
in a small town. I come from a working class
background from an Arab Jewish family. My father was born
in actually Palestine, and so was his father and grandfather.

(25:15):
I grew up as an Israeli as a as a child,
I believed everything they told me because as a child
you have no ability for critical thinking. And I believed Johnism.
I believe there is an Israeli identity simply because I
didn't know anything else. It looked, it sounded like the

(25:38):
only thing you can you can take an embrace in
this world. But gradually, over many years, I started doubting
the official story. It began, It's just an anecdote, but
it began for me when I discovered my miss Raki identity,

(25:59):
my Jewish Alrahabe identity, which is very not the same
as a Nashkenazi Jewish identity. It's a different story, different background.
Jews who lived, just to say a line about this,
Jews who lived in the Arab world, in the Muslim world,
did not experience the same hatred and persecution that Ashkenazi

(26:22):
Jews did experience in Europe. But in Zinism, through all
kinds of all kinds of manipulation, coercion and brainwashing, the
Zenism managed to create this fake one Jewish, one Jewish nation,

(26:48):
which is not a real concept. Nevertheless, they managed to
create this facade of one Jewish nation. And when I
discovered when I was open into seeing my own story
and the story of my people, the Arab Jews, and
how different it was from the story of Ashkenazi Jews.

(27:10):
Then the the whole fabric of Zienism began to come
undone for me, because I could see also the Palestinian
story and all of the all the rest of the
holes in the in the Zany story. And I'm a
rebel by nature. I'm not a great believer in informal

(27:32):
truth uh truths and establishment lines. So the the the
more violent and the more openly fascistic and unwilling to
even consider normalcy and peace Israel become, the more I
realize I have less and less room in it. Until eventually,

(27:56):
on basically eight years ago, I all already felt like
Israel was completely lost and had no and had no hope.
But after the genocide began, I just decided to quit
it altogether and livisra.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
And so that's that's your Your channel is called the
Misrahi perspective. When I first saw that, I thought that
was you your perspective, but actually the miss Rosie miss
Rahi perspective is a different perspective of the of the
experience in Jewish experience and the experience in Israel. That's
what I.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Actually it's both because it is my name, but it's
also the title given to Dorabe Jews insiety, so it's
it's it's personal, but it's also in the name of
my people, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And also, uh, tell us a little bit about the
current suation as I understand it. I don't have nearly
the probably the insights about Israeli society that you have,
So maybe you can enlighten us as to what's going
on in the minds of people in Israel. Because we

(29:15):
see an opposition. We see lots of protests out on
the street. We have done for a long time against
Netta Yahoo, against corruption, to bring home the hostages and
so forth. We see all that, and we see the
liberal left, the much vaunted left wing liberal left in Israel,

(29:37):
that seem to want to I don't know, restrain Netta
Naho for different reasons, I'm not sure, but we don't
see a lot of parliamentarians in Israel speaking up on
behalf of the Palestinians, like maybe we should stop killing
so many people. And it was explained to me by

(29:58):
one gentleman, tell me if I'm correct or not, Alan,
maybe you can expand on this better. But he said
that a lot of people in Israel believe that the
world is against them and the world is fundamentally anti Semitic,
and they can't do anything about that, so they just
have to do what they have to do to survive.

(30:21):
And that's the general mentality. Tell me how close that
is to reality, and then explain to what's going on
in the minds how things have got to this point.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Alan, Okay, this is unquestionably true. This is what not
only Israelis believe, this is what Jews believe, and this
is what especially as Kannazi Jews believe. As I've said,
the Jews, we're much less into this paranoia that the
world hates us, want to come after us and then

(30:53):
destroy us. It wasn't it wasn't like this for us.
But yes, Israelis are sure, and Jews are sure that
the whole world hates them, and this sadly has become,
or is becoming, in front of our eyes, our self
fulfilling prophecy, as all self prophecies tend to become. But

(31:20):
just to give you an example about the sort of
opposition you have in Israel. I mean, just a few
days ago, there's a guy called the Ayrgolan, and he
is an ex general, an x idea of general, who
famously said, almost I think fifteen years ago, almost twenty
years ago, he said in a big official state ceremony

(31:46):
that there were processes happening in Israel at the time
reminiscent of similar processes happening in Germany in the nineteen
twenties and thirties. And he got jumped so bad for this,
and he became, I don't know, a target for right

(32:06):
wing hate, one of the biggest in Israel. And a
few days ago that that same year, go On said
a normal country does not kill babies as a hobby
and does not starve people and all of this. But

(32:26):
when he said that, and he is like the most
extreme Jewish left winger of any you know, any position
and renown in Israel. But when he said that, he said,
I'm not talking about the idea. The idea is my

(32:48):
heart and my soul and my home. I am not
criticizing the idea. I'm only criticizing the political system, which
makes this criticism meaningless because centering ideaf as being above
criticism as being always moral. Makes this criticism a joke,

(33:11):
because who is committing all those crimes. Who is doing
this Its idea of soldiers, its idea of officers, its
idea of generals. It's not the Natan Alwa is not
out there in Gaza killing women and children. Soldiers are
doing this, and people are When he tells his military,

(33:33):
we want to starve people, no one got up and
left the room and went to the media. He said,
this guy is nuts. We have to disobey this order,
which is what's expected from a normal human being to do.
This is what This is your duty. This is not
an option. When someone raises something this inhumane and cruel

(33:56):
and barbaric, it is always your duty, no matter what
if you're an American soldier, if you're a Russian soldier,
if you're an Ethiopian. It doesn't matter when your eye
command or your political superiors suggests something like this. It
is your duty to your fellow human beings and to

(34:17):
humanity to disobey and refuse disorder. But no one in
the idea has refused anything. So this is and after
two days after saying this, he again apologized so profusely
for for potentially being misunderstood as criticizing the idea. So

(34:40):
this is the state of Israel. And again he is
considered in Israeli mainstream is considered like is the is
the what's the American equivalent? Is the the the gang? Okay,
he is she that live. This is who he is

(35:02):
in Israeli politics. And even he is not capable of
making actual moral judgment and moral criticism about what's going on.
And this is the big problem of the Jewish, of
the liberal so called liberal Jewish left, and we see
the same phenomenon with American liberals. They are only concerned with.

(35:26):
This is why I believe change anywhere can only come
from moderate right wingers and Republicans, not muggle people, not
brainwashed people who cannot see reality, but people who have
their instincts because they have some capacity for truth and
compassion and saying stuff they really mean. Whereas liberals have

(35:50):
this plague of always always propping up their image as
moral and nice and clean, nice people, but what they
are never able to follow through with anything. And we
have seen a whole year of genocide during the Biden administration,
being whitewashed life with one press conference and after another

(36:15):
with all those types, giving all those ludicrous answers to
all the questions about about hind the job and this
case and World Aid kitchen and a million incidents and
Biden's White House and not it's not only Biden. I
mean the entire field of American liberal media has completely failed.

(36:40):
The New York Times is has been an actual arm
of the Israeli as of the genocide. They have published
piece after piece and created this psychological momentum for genocide
with lies about mess rapes and all the eyes Israel

(37:02):
through into the atmosphere. So we have an abject failure
on the part of liberal liberal media and liberal political camps.
And it is true and even more poignantly true in Israel.
They are unable to break with the mainstream in a

(37:22):
serious way. And you cannot change any system. You cannot
be someone who changes anything politically when you are not
willing to break with the system. When you're first the
first article in your I don't know belief system is
always justify the establishment and stand with the establishment, are

(37:46):
you going to be able to change anything. If you
want to change stuff, you need to tell people you
must not believe the system. You must not believe the
official press. We offer a different story, which is based
based in morality, based in justice as we see it.
You don't have to see it as we do, but

(38:08):
we will give you our version of reality. And we
haven't seen this kind of position almost anywhere in the US.
Definitely in Israel, there's no question about it. I mean
the entire and also the why the Jewish community, the
white the Jewish collective, I mean, those are people, I

(38:31):
mean reformed Jews, reform American Jews almost went to war
with Natanio government a decade ago over the Israeli right
wing Orthodox government refusal to let women lead the press
services at the Whaling War, at the Western War. They

(38:58):
made such a scene of it and they there was
there was talk of breaking with Israel and we cannot
support and it was public and they came to Israel
and the people need to look this up. I mean,
this tells you how much hypocrisy. I mean, you go
to war and you're willing to break with the Israel

(39:18):
and the Israeli government and say Israel has become too fundamentalist,
too extreme. We cannot identify because it's not letting women lead.
And by the way, in Judaism, women never let press services.
This is this is it, This is the deal. You
want to create your own school. You cannot force it
on someone else. You cannot decide now a reform Islam

(39:40):
and a woman will be the mufti of a mask.
It's not going to work. I mean it, create your
own religion. I mean this is I mean, take it
or leave it. This is my position. This, this is
what this religion is about. But this is beside the point.
If for this symbolic I'm sorry to say it nonsense

(40:03):
because this is just this is again, this is liberal
causes are always about optics all things. Look, I mean,
it doesn't matter what the military is doing, but we
need to have transgender and women in combat in combat roles.
But we're not going to ask where are they sent? Okay,

(40:24):
what are they doing? This is this moral? Is this justified?
These conversations liberals never want to have, but they do
want to talk about if we do or don't do
or don't have transgender subject as if this is like
the most important and this is the brain rot that

(40:44):
liberalism has brought to the West. I mean, to me,
with conservatives, if they are not completely deranged, you can
have a conversation, even if you don't agree with their
opinions many times. I mean, Marjorie Tyler Green is like
the most maybe the most honest member of Congress at

(41:07):
the moment. And there are a million things I won't
agree with her on, but at least I feel that
there stands respects other people, because she says she has
clear boundaries. She says, this is what I stand for,
this is what I don't stand for. And you can't
believe her, and I can't believe, and I do believe

(41:29):
that she stands for morality more than Chuck Schumer, more
more than a million other liberals and New York Times writers,
you know, people who have the high brows of the
American landscape. So, but because I want to say something

(41:52):
about Trump, his presidency began in a very promising way
as regards the GENO said, because he insisted we needed
to have a ceasefire, and before I'm sworn, a ceasfire
began the day before he was worn in. And this
was such a positive sign. This told me this man

(42:16):
is at least aware that there's a massacre going on.
And this is not good. This is not good for anyone.
This is not good for the world. This is not
good for humanity, This is not good for America, This
is not good for this is not good for anyone.
Palestinians are the victims, but this is not good for anyone.
And it was a long it was a prolonged serious ceasefire,

(42:38):
and Palestinians finally had a minute to breathe and sleep
at night without feeling them and their children are going
to be blown apart or burned alive any minute. But
you could see this dynamic, this very heartbreaking and dark
and ominous dynamic where every time Trump makes any kind

(43:04):
of step saying or showing that it is an independent
president looking for the interests of America first. Again, however,
he sees them still America first. Every time he does that,
you can see, you can feel the the whole, the

(43:25):
chokehold of Israel, Israel lobby and Israel interest group in
Washington tightened around him around his neck, and he has
to fold, and he has to agree to things he
initially didn't want to agree to. And immediately after he
stopped this hootie campaign in Yemen, this this idiotic, I mean,

(43:50):
you go to war to to not have a discussion
about genocide I mean, what, what the hell is this even?
I mean, was there ever a more repugnant war? I mean,
you go and bomb Yemeni's some of the poorest people
in the world. When they tell you we are going
to stop this war if the carnage is in Gaza stopped,

(44:11):
they made it very clear, and still you send. But
the minute is decided to stop this campaign and went
to this summit in the in the Gulf, and you
had a minute of illusion that the clouds are you know,
are partying and maybe some rays of light coming into

(44:35):
the picture. They began again something even crazier than before,
and saying Iran is not going to have no enrichment.
What do you mean no enrichment? This was never on
the table. They embraced a more hardline position day before
than before. And now they have this monstrous quote unquote

(45:01):
aid system that they want that they are starting in
Gaza with American mercenaries and ex soldiers and spies supposedly
feeding the population of Gaza. And what the hell is this?
What this is so ominous, This is like a preparation
for something so dark and and and this is this

(45:25):
is part of why why I say, to answer your
original question, why we are not in the realm of
politics anymore. This is not about politics. This is this
is an actual fight of good versus evil. This is
this is dark evil forces trying to take over the

(45:47):
entire world. This is what it is. Because when you
it is clear to everyone everyone Israel hasn't been fighting
a war since a week after October seventh. Once they
pushed everyone out and shut the border clothes, it wasn't

(46:07):
a war anymore because Hamas is not no military to
fight Israeli. They made this unbelievable commando operation, which is
what October seven mostly was. And this part we are
we are led to deny. But Hamas occupied a series

(46:28):
of IDF bases and killed mostly soldiers on October seven,
hamascot idea of God. And it was from the military perspective,
it was a brilliant and successful operation. And what happened
with the with the massacre around it, what really happened,

(46:52):
we don't know to this day. I mean, there was
a honeybal honeyball directive as they call it in Israel.
We know that if we don't know what really happened,
but we know that a part of what happened of
this day, and this is undeniable, was a military strike
against Israel. Be this as it as it may. Once

(47:16):
Israel stopped this onslaught and shut the border closed and
killed or drove everyone, every commanced member back into Gaza.
This is where it's just military effort ended because now
you have on the other side of the border what
you had for sixty years before that, which is a

(47:40):
population of besieged, occupied refugees. Most of them are refugees
from ninety eight nineteen forty eight Palestine who have been
living had been living in the most terrible conditions for decades,
and they cannot defend themselves, and they have no shelters,

(48:02):
and they have no logistic, you know, way to deal
with anything. They didn't have they didn't have like food storage,
huge storage of food to feed the population. They don't
even have water supply to give to their people. So

(48:25):
how do you wage a quote unquote war against this,
this enclave of disconnected and besieged and hungry and fatigued
and occupied people. This was immoral from the first day
after the original Hamas onslaught was stopped, which Israel was

(48:46):
right in doing. I mean, no one can deny they
had the right to stop the onslaught while it was ongoing,
maybe not in the crazy way they did it with
the honeyball directive, and they I mean, we have several
well documented cases of the idea killing Israelis and killing

(49:07):
captives in Bei and in other places, killing twelve people
in Bei, and one incident shooting tank shells into a
house where captives were kept with Hamas members. This was
told by a survivor of this attack, and there were
other instances like that, and so this has been a

(49:35):
lot to go on for so long. This is not
about Israel. This is not even about crazy revenge anymore.
And revenge is not a legitimate political cause anyway. This
it's not normal for any society to pursue revenge. This
is not how you live life. This is not this

(49:56):
is prehistoric. You don't seek revenge. I know. It's very
much the American way the left to tay, we take revenge,
we kill death, This we eliminated. This is no, this
is not This should not be normalized, and humanity should
not normalize this. Revenge is not a normal policy to pursue.

(50:18):
But this is not even that anymore. And this is
not even about the territory. This is about creating the world. Well,
Israel especially, but maybe the US and its other allies
are allowed to exterminate people at will and do whatever

(50:38):
they want in the world while maintaining an image of
being a moral and just society. And this is this
is something we all have to fight. This is a
fight with humanity cannot lose. We cannot have this kind
of reality normalized. And I'm sorry to say it, because

(51:02):
I don't think Americans are especially evil. I think Americans
are very confused politically, and they are very They have
been very weakened politically and deep politicized as a society.
And it's a problem not only for America, it's a
problem for the world because when your country supports something
like what Israel is doing, I would expect a society

(51:25):
to have a healthy, sizable opposition in the name of morality.
And it doesn't have anything to do with the way
you stand on the you know what kind of financial
economic system you want. What if you are for transgenders
or against transgenders, this has nothing to do and should

(51:49):
they have nothing to do. Or if you're a Christian
believer or if you're a secular agnostic. It doesn't matter
when children are being mass murdered. We need the society
to speak up against it. And if we don't have it,
we have gone crazy. And sadly, you see no opposition

(52:12):
in the American political landscape to what the US is
doing with Israel. And I knew that Israel was crazy
before October seventh, but I had no idea this. Really,
this got me unprepared. I did not know that the

(52:35):
US was going to allow Israel to do something like
this and assisted, and I had no idea. I really
didn't suspect this. That the entire landscape of American American media,

(52:58):
American news outlets, American magazines, so all this huge industry
of opinion and and you know narratives will stand idly
by as the US helps another country exterminated people. I

(53:18):
didn't see this one coming, I have to admit. And
it's not only in the US, but at least in
Europe you see some resistance to it, You see some resistance,
whereas in the US there's almost no resistance. Even you know,
the ridiculous realities that they are having now. AOC and

(53:40):
Bernice Anders, they they only talk about Trump. They never
talk about the genocide. They never talk about the genocide.
Then when you don't talk about something this the elephant
in the room. What you're saying is, I'm I'm basically
sanctifying the status quo. I don't want to change anything.

(54:04):
I'm not willing to challenge the biggest evil of this moment.
So how can you be in opposition to anything? How
are you in opposition? This is a joke. This is
a joke, And what's I have to finish this long,
long monologue with this. The Democrats, I believe it, and

(54:27):
I think it's provable, lost the election over their support
for the genocide. They were seen as a party of
weak people who can be easily led and dragged and
manipulated by Nataniello and Israel into doing anything against their
own declared principles, because they never Democrats never had like

(54:52):
a set of principles saying we are going to support
Israel as it exterminates people, and we will do Israel's
bidding what it says. It was never part of the
Democratic platform they were supposedly about. We care about people,
we care about community, we care about justice, we care
about racism and racism. I mean, all the years of

(55:15):
talking about racism all the is I mean you, I
mean you. They started the whole wave of demonstrations around
the killing of one man a couple of years back,
and now a whole society is being destroyed, and you
say nothing, So what do you even stand for? So

(55:39):
I believe they lost the election over this and and
and they lost. They turned against their their radical core
because there was a genuine radical core to the Democratic Party.
People who are actually I can say radical leftists, but
three leftists don't say I'm against bad things except when

(56:03):
Israel does them, then I'm for them. People who are
actually for equality. And the Democratic Party actually turned on
them and put out their fire because it didn't want them.
And it's in all it's you know, all its festivities,
all its ceremonies, all it's so. And those people are

(56:30):
very important for especially uh I supposedly left left cleaning party,
because you need popular support, you need this kind of fire.
Even if eventually the policy is not going to be
as left wing as the grassroots demand, you still need

(56:53):
to have these people to give the party a sense
of vitality, a sense of we are connected with the
moment and we are looking into the future. And we
are connected with society at this particular moment, and they
decided they are willing to sacrifice. And this may be
like a one percent or two percent of Democrats, but

(57:14):
it is they are much more important than the actual
numbers because they give the moral validity, the moral stands,
the energy to the rest of the of the party,
which becomes just a huge machine for jobs and you know,
lucrative offers and an image management without this, without this

(57:38):
moral base, so they kick them out, basically, they and
they left out all the Palestinian and Muslim voters, which
again maybe aren't many, but elections in the years are
always very close. One hundred thousand people, we decide who
is going to be president at the end of the

(58:00):
day in a few swing states. And they knowingly decided
to sacrifice this for the sake of Israel's genocide. So
they lost the election over it, and they made Donald
Trump and this is the biggest this is the biggest joke,

(58:22):
and this is how fake American politics really is, because
they presented Trump as the hitler of all hitlers, Okay,
the biggest manners to America and normalcy and democracy, all
the words liberals love so much. For years, for a decade,

(58:44):
this has been their project, not improving American lives, not
doing anything, not stopping empire, and not reconsidering anything, not
focusing on healthcare. Nothing. We are against Trump. This was
we are against Trump and we are four the science
establishment in COVID. This has been the transgenders maybe, but

(59:06):
Trump has been and they have made this person president
by refusing to condemn and stop a genocide MHM, which
is which is not enough intention is given to this point.
I mean, you depict someone as your arch enemy, the

(59:29):
most dangerous human being in your society, which may which
may well bring I'm not sure the America is coming
back from what's going on at the moment. I'm not
sure it's it's coming back. I mean, if they managed
to actually replace thousands of public service work as people

(59:55):
in all kinds of positions in many states, in many
you know, different arms of the government, and they are
all now loyal to the to the Mugga Revolution and
to Trump, how do you how do you overcome this?
I mean, how how do you come back from this?
It's the America is also already in a big, big
mess in terms of figuring out its future, even if

(01:00:19):
it took a side and everything else. I'm in the
economic aspect and the rivalry with with with China and
the East and the Empire which is starting to crumble
and it cannot win war anymore and everyone can see it.
But domestically, the US is in a big, big mess now.

(01:00:44):
So having helping Trump to get into the White House
with so much hanging in the balance, against everything you
ever spoke against, this is this is unbelievable. This is believable.
So the Democratic brand has become so hollow, They become

(01:01:08):
so hollow. What do they stand for? How can they
say with the straight face that they stand for anything?
I mean, what I'm saying now would be if I
said this in a liberal room, I would be kicked
out because this is something you are not allowed. You're
not allowed to question the integrity of the party, like
you're not allowed to have an actual discussion about about

(01:01:31):
the real stuff. And I've seen this in conversations with liberals.
There comes a certain point when your criticism becomes like
the crell. When you tell them how do you do this?
When you say you believe that this is like a
basic basic question, they shut they shut down, They cannot.

(01:01:56):
They don't want to continue the conversation. They are not
willing to consider actual criticism of what they're doing, and
they have become hollow. And now what does the Republican
Party stand for anymore? They're not making deficits. This is

(01:02:16):
this is a joke. They are not anti war, they
are not cutting deficits. They are not improving America's standing
in the world. They are not making the government smaller.
This is this is also a nonsense. I mean, they
talk the talk, but they are going to increase all

(01:02:39):
budgets and increase deficities deficits by trillions with this Golden dome.
I mean, so you have you have a Democratic parties
that stands for nothing, and you have a Republican parties
that stands for close to nothing. Because and everything hangs

(01:02:59):
now this is my finite point I said before, but
this is really my finite point. Everything now depends or
whether on whether Israel manages to pull the US into
attacking Iran or not. This will decide the future of
the US. This will, in my opinion, bring an end

(01:03:22):
to Israel, and this will this will shape the twenty
first century. This and everything depends on this and as
things for a while. Originally, I believe this is the
kind of agreement the Israel lobby and the Jewish lobby

(01:03:44):
made with Maga and Trump a year ago. They are
going to support Trump and Trump is going to give
them Iran on a silver platform. I thought that was
a deal, and I think this explains part of the
reason why Democrats looked like they were losing the election
on purpose, because part of the big donors and the

(01:04:10):
big you know, ballplayers in the Democratic Party wanted Trump
to win to guarantee Israel safety. Let's let's put it
this way. But having when Trump went into office and
sounded more like saner than we expected and wanted the

(01:04:33):
cease fire, and there was this hootie campaign, but then
he stopped it, and then he went to the golf
and he looked like he was willing to make a
deal with Iran. I started thinking maybe they fooled, maybe
Muga fulled the Israel lobby. They told them, yeah, we're

(01:04:57):
going to do whatever you want, help us to get elected.
But now we elected, we were not we We're not
going to do whatever we say. We are going to
look after our own interests. But now again I'm seeing
that this this dynamic is shifting again and again you
see the pro Israel, the Zionist voice getting stronger and

(01:05:21):
stronger in the Trump administration and the and the the
chances of a deal with I Ran, which we seemed
high like two weeks ago, now again appear to be
much lower. And if there's no deal with the Ran,
Israel it's going to attack and the US will will

(01:05:43):
have to join it. Because there's no way to stop
this dynamic in American politics, with this American Congress, with
this media, with everything that we know about the US,
the US will be dragged into it. The only way
to stop Israel from attach King Iran and dragging the
whole world into chaos is by having the US signing

(01:06:06):
a deal with Iran. Because if the US, especially the
Trump administration, signed this deal, Israel would be seen as
the as the belligerent party. It will have no moral
justification for attacking Iran, because this is Trump, the most
friendly president for Israel ever. But if they don't sign

(01:06:28):
this deal, Israel is going to attack. I run one
hundred percent, and the US will be dragged into it.
And I have to tell you that the entire history
of what we have seen until now is not going
to be the same world we live in anymore once
this war breaks. This is going to have such huge

(01:06:52):
and wide ranging implications for American society, for European society,
for the Middle East. But about this again, you see
no serious opposition in the US and no real discussion.

(01:07:12):
This is where I'm gonna stop. There's no discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah, no substantial or intelligent discussion. Not a discussion. That's
that's ballasted on the truth. And that's what's missing on
all of these big conversations. And I think this is
just a really deterioration of the political intellectual circles in
Washington generally, in the media, in academia. And just to

(01:07:37):
backtrack a little bit al on on what you said,
and now, one of the reasons we got to this place,
how's the Israel lobby been able to get such traction?
And so Democrats used to be the champions of civil
liberties way back in the day. I mean, this is
what forte, the aclu et cetera. They've completely shunned all

(01:07:58):
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
And and but this was the then there was the
Republican conservative critique of the left was that they wanted
safe spaces, they won't allow free speech on campus. It's
all woke. It's woke. This woke that. And as you said,
where the Democrats basically jettisoned all of their core values,
the Republicans are now demanding safe spaces on US campuses.

(01:08:24):
They're shutting down and deporting people for criticizing a foreign country,
Israel in this case. And this the twisting of the
language of the dialogue, of the discourse has been something unbelievable.
And the environment right now is that it's it's it
with the ADL coming in and basically ready to kind

(01:08:45):
of marshal any kind of crazy situation like we saw
in Washington. All bringing this clip up here because I'll
play this Alon, and then I'll let you respond, because
this is just so emblematic here. This is Netanyahu basically
you know, rec figuring reality, effectively redefining what free Palestine means. Yeah,

(01:09:06):
we'll play this. This is something I think people should know.
Free Palestine is just today's version of Heil Hitler.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
Free Palestine is just today's version of.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
I mean, how do you respond to something like that? Alan,
I mean, it's just but this is normal. Now, this
is this is normal conservative discourse.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
This is this is this is the new normal. And
as I wrote yesterday on my ex account, this is
Natanielle declaring phase two oh of the of the culture
attack around the general say, this is no Nataniell saying

(01:09:52):
we are not going to stop at quote unquote defending
Israel and defending the extermination of the people. We are
now going to use Western governments. This is nataniel speaking
to the pro Palestinian crowd and Western public in general,

(01:10:13):
and he's telling them, we are going to use your
governments to treat you as Nazis. We are going to
come after you, using your political system, your legal system,
your a law enforcement system to rain down on you

(01:10:34):
and destroy you as the Nazis of this era. And
he means it, and he means it. And from what
I see, I can see some resistance to this in Europe.
I see no resistance to this in the US. And

(01:10:55):
this is so terrible and again and we're not in
the realm of politics anymore. This is primordial insanity. This
is not politics. I mean, this is Israel and Nathaniel
and Natanielle is not a normal person. He's not a
sane person. I mean, this is this used to be

(01:11:18):
common knowledge before the genocide. But now he's becoming this
international star once again because he's best murdered in all
those people, which is nuts. I mean, no one liked
Nathaniel before the genocide. He wasn't a welcome guest in
European capitals. No one wanted to meet him. They saw

(01:11:40):
him as a dangerous and unreliable and deceitful and cynical,
disgusting human being. But now because he has killed all
those people, now is this legitimizes him? I mean, are
you crazy? But again I'm there's more than early signs

(01:12:03):
of resistance in Europe. You see massive demonstrations in the UK.
In the UK, you see parliamentarians speak up openly about
what Israel is doing and and not giving their government
a minute's rest on this. They ask one question after
another after another, and and and Spain. And you have

(01:12:29):
whole countries that openly speak up against this, and about
these big important countries like Spain. So you see, I
don't think Europe is falling for this. For free Palestine
is the new high Hitler. And and I think Europe

(01:12:49):
has began like gently touching the brakes on all of this,
like a couple of weeks ago. They I think that
when one Israel declared this Gideon's Chariots offensive, you could
feel that your European politicians and even the establishment media,

(01:13:13):
which is the biggest tale of where things are going, right,
this is all managed by intelligence services, and they tell
them show more compassion to Palestinians because this is where
we're going, or be more be more open to anti
vexers because we are going to change our stands on COVID.
This is so obvious, this dynamic. But you could see

(01:13:37):
at the beginning of like touching the bricks, like breaking
from Israel, letting Israel still go ahead, not stopping the
Israeli car, but not being like completely aligned with it anymore,
whereas in the US it's like it's speeding, it's speeding

(01:13:59):
with Israel on this rampage. And I mean, there are
so many nuts, completely nuts aspects to this. But I
think that after the whatever is coming next next, a
world war and Iran war and apocalypse, a zombie, a

(01:14:21):
couple of I don't I don't discount anything at this stage. Seriously,
one thing people are going which is going to puzzle
people is how did Western governments agree to denounce millions
of their own citizens as crazy people and hateful people

(01:14:46):
on behave of this small country in the Middle East.
I mean, think about this, an American, a guy from
Pennsylvania or from New Jersey or from an Oklahoma telling
his people is constituency people he grew up with, people
he goes to work with. People from his country. Men

(01:15:09):
and women. You are evil people who must not be trusted.
And it is my job and responsibility as government, as
political power to follow, censor, intimidate you so that you're
crazy doesn't do damage in the world. How is this?

(01:15:36):
How is this normal? How is this normal? And I
think about how insulting this is to Americans, to the
American people, Because Jews have been part of American society
for centuries. There was never any law against Jews. I
mean you were never allowed to discriminate. You were allowed

(01:15:56):
to encouraged to discriminate against other groups, right, but never
against Jews. I mean, Jewish identity was never an issue
in America, which is a good thing, This is what
we want. But after centuries of this of it's not

(01:16:16):
co existence, it's one existence, an American existence. Now the Jewish,
the prominent Jewish political voices. You are an anti Semitic society.
You are I mean, And again to come back to
my original point, this is very Ashkenazi. In European Jewish,

(01:16:39):
I mean Arab Jews would never dream of saying something
like this. I could never, in my wildest dreams see
a Moroccan rabbi, American public leader, Jewish public leader, public
speakers saying to the Moroccans or the Iraqis, or to
the Egyptians, h you are very bad people who hate you.

(01:17:05):
You would say, maybe this step that you have taken
is unfair. This something that you do is look at this,
you will agree this is not fair. This is not
the right thing to do, which is normal and acceptable.
It's okay to do this, But to describe as society

(01:17:29):
as anti Semitic, and they call on the right under
everyone is anti How is everyone anti Semitic in the US?
This is this is so much crap. I mean, even
the classic racism of hating black people is not in
fashion in the US anymore, and hasn't been in fashion
for a long time. This, this is not like the

(01:17:52):
normal way to be American anymore. To talk badly about
people of color. It's not so how, how where does
does this even come from? And it's as if we
can see that this is meant to allow genocide to
go on. I mean, are people this stupid? Do they

(01:18:15):
think people are this stupid? Do you think people can
see the correlation between the rise in the anti anti
Semitism scare and what Israel is doing? Can anyone miss that?
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Yeah, And they're taking it to yet another level this
week they dragged in the South African President Sarah Ramaposa
in front of the White House to the awful embarrassing
scene saying there's a white genocide going on in South Africa.
No word, no outrage about Gaza of course. Uh. And

(01:18:56):
you know these scenes, Alan, I mean, this isn't a staged,
dramatic photograph. This is the daily reality right now in Gaza.
And this isn't a very rough photograph. This is pretty
tame actually compared to some of the other scenes we've seen.
And not only that, but at any moment they could

(01:19:18):
be in danger being bombed, well even while they're trying
to get fed. I mean, it's just these types of
things were were these were just unacceptable in Western society
not very long ago, not very long ago, and somehow
there's almost like this ingrained conditioning that's gone on in

(01:19:39):
the West to to equate Palestinians, especially Palestinians Muslims and Arabs.
But even even the people in the golf regard Palestinians
as the golf states they there is a bit of
a pecking order, if you will, in the Arab world
when it comes to the golf, and uh, it's unacceptable

(01:20:04):
right across the board Europe, they don't. Is is such
a powerful narrative that's somehow been allowed to kind of
take over. There's something going in the in the psyche,
is that this is a major human psychological event that
I'm trying to you know, we're all trying to figure
out what's going on because it's profound, it has it

(01:20:26):
has major implications, major implications for the human race. And
I think you're you're touching on that in in your
what you've written recently, you know, the content that you
put out recently. You're you're getting in there, Alan, I
think to try to say, I'm we're trying to work
out what's going on because we need to understand this,

(01:20:48):
we really do, because this is this is profound for everybody.
It's not just about any particular group. This is a
humanity issue that's really taking place, a major shit. We
got a couple of minutes left, and I just want
to kind of give you the floor, Allen, to finish
off this segment, to talk about talk about this. This

(01:21:08):
really some of these more profound universal phenomenon that's going on.
But go ahead, all On.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Yeah, I will say something about this, but first I
want to say something about America, about the US twenty
years ago. Also, I studied English language and literature at
Haifa University, and I discovered Emerson, the American philosopher Ralph

(01:21:41):
Waldo Emerson, and I discovered the Walt Whitman. It was
the first time I read Walt Whitman, like seriously, I
mean Crossing Brooklyn Ferry at the poem by Whitman. This
has walked with me for years because this touched me
and allowed me to see something about something I loaned for.

(01:22:07):
This kind of almost a metaphysical view of reality, because
this is what cross in Brooklyn Ferry is. It's not
about I see you one hundred years hence I see
you into the future.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
This is a.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Poem about a community of humankind which transcends time and place.
And also Amazon with this also would be a man
must be a nonconformist. Everything Amazon ever writes is about
nonconformity and independence of mind. And for years I believe

(01:22:49):
that this school of thinking was essential to the American
psyche and American sould, the American project, and I actually
believed it, and I believed that America was a place
where dissidents and nonconformity was a respected institution, was a

(01:23:14):
respected cultural phenomena where people and culture were willing to
not only allow it but encourage it. Because this is very,
very healthy for a society to encourage dissent, because, as
we have so often seen, majorities and consensus can be

(01:23:37):
so tragically mistaken. And what I want to say with
this is what I have seen. I have begun to
see it with COVID. But in COVID you had some
you had resistance. Now you have no resistance. Now this

(01:24:00):
all I don't know, school or tradition of nonconformity, which
was so essential. It was one of the saving graces
of a society organized around very racist concepts and the
eradication of Native Americans and all the eels of the

(01:24:21):
past that we know of, not only the past, but
the disappearance of this and the America becoming the actual
land of conformity, of obedience of one establishment government client

(01:24:43):
that everybody follows and no one dissents from and no
one objects to. This is this is I mean, I'm
looking at things again per Apps, inspired also by Whitman,
not only as the current you know, the current minute

(01:25:09):
in time. I'm looking at this, at things from a
historical perspective. How is this going to look in ten
or fifteen or twenty years when an entire society, I mean,
governments can go evil. I mean, this is nothing new.
This is what This was one of the founding reasons

(01:25:31):
for the American Revolution, for the old philosophy, the American
philosophy of government, which they it never really lived up to,
but at least it existed in theory, the idea that
governments can go evil, and it is never as citizens

(01:25:55):
job to blindly follow government directives. We want to limit government.
We want to we want to constrain government. We don't
want a government that defines everything that we are and
everything that we do. This is like a basic logic
of American philosophy. And we have we now see this.

(01:26:19):
This has completely disappeared from America, and this is a
very bad sign for this country. To me, this is
a very bad sign for any country, but especially for America.
This is a very bad sign because this tells us
of a lot of cultural rot. It means American society

(01:26:41):
is not dynamic anymore. It is not vibrant. It has
become frozen. It's a society that doesn't move for change.
It's a society that's blocking change. And this this wasn't
what America was supposed to be was supposed to do.

(01:27:02):
If I disregard all the terrible evils of the of
the early centuries, maybe of the American project, if there
was something good and positive about this, it was this,
we do not sanctify tradition. We are looking for new
ways to do things and be moral and be present

(01:27:23):
in the world and not obey authority automatically. Ever, this
is not what we're about. But now we can see
that this is all America has become. Because this is
the two party line is completely one on everything. Israel

(01:27:45):
and Israel now will very much oh sorry about this, Israel.
It's going to determine where the US is going and
this kind of freedom is criminal to give any country.

(01:28:07):
If I have my what happened to me?

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
I've lost your camera there for a moment, so yeah,
see if you can bring that picture back, we'll bring
you back. Yeah, Allen's just getting reconnected there. Alan Mesahi,
our guest, just finishing off of very important conversation about well,
you know, not just about the Israel Palestine situation, but

(01:28:35):
how how has it been allowed to come to the
sort of terminal state that that it currently is in
right now, And we'll bring Alan back in a moment.
He'll just be with us shortly. But and you really
do need to understand American politics, and also I think

(01:28:56):
Alan's given us a very good insight into how America
has changed, how politics has changed, how the national psyche
has changed, but also the role that the Israeli lobby
and Israeli lobby power has had in that process in
effectively browbeating people into submission when it comes to, you know,

(01:29:21):
preventing any criticism of the state of Israel, but also
just purely buying and purchasing and capturing the not just
the houses of government. We're talking about the Democrats and
Republicans but also buying, purchasing, and capturing. Now the mechanisms
of government. And this is the scary part. This is

(01:29:43):
what we warned about. This is why it's not a
good idea to allow a foreign lobby or a foreign
government to meddle deeply in your country's affairs. Because once
they're done buying off all of your elected officials okay,
every Congressman, every senator bar one or two, as well
as other independents okay, and the president. The White House

(01:30:08):
is bought and paid for totally. Okay. Once they've done that,
that foreign government or foreign lobby then goes for the
mechanisms of government, is going for the legal the judiciary
branch is going directly for the US Constitution. The US

(01:30:30):
Constitution is the DNA of the United States, and the
Israeli lobby are currently in the process of hijacking the
US Constitution by trying to redefine the First Amendment, which
is the basis of the entire Bill of Rights. The
entire US Constitution is basically predicated on the First Amendment,

(01:30:52):
freedom of speech, freedom of assembly. And these are two
things those first two freedom of speech freedom assembly. Uh,
the Israeli lobby, the a d l uh, the sort
of powerful individuals in the lobby, the billionaire class that
bought President Trump, that purchased the White House effectively for

(01:31:13):
their own personal needs for Israel. They're they're they're attacking
the First Amendment, trying to redefine free speech using a
very deceptive parlor trick under the aegis of combating anti Semitism,

(01:31:36):
calling legal, lawful, normal political protests on campus in opposition
to a foreign government conducting a genocide, okay, and and
people protesting the US government who are arming and aiding
and a betting that foreign government, okay, and then re

(01:32:01):
categorizing that as hate speech as anti semitism. Hey, is
that is the full hijacking of the First Amendment by
a foreign government. That's a level of foreign influence in
the United States, who's meant to be the most powerful
country in the world, but apparently not not powerful enough
to avoid being controlled by a small country in the

(01:32:23):
Middle East the size of New Jersey, a little, tiny
colonial settler state, has managed to basically hijack the entire
Washington machinery, and that and by extension, society, and that
is something that is something that is quite a feat
but that's exactly what's happened. We lost Alan ms Rahie

(01:32:46):
and if he's in a rural location, uh in in
somewhere I think in North America, but I'm not sure
exactly where he is, but I know he's in a
kind of a semi rural location, so he's had some
technical difficulties. We are not out got him in for
whate incredible interview segment with Alan, but we won't be

(01:33:06):
able to bring him back this week, but maybe we will.
Wait a minute, hold on, we'll bring him back. We've
managed to get him back here. Well, we'll wrap up
this segment when we bring Alan back up here. Alan,
I was telling people, you're probably in a rural a
remote location as well. You've probably got internet issues plus
technical issues. But we got you back.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Yeah, yeah, back, Yeah. Thanks for your patience. I have
a very makeshift set up, but it's okay, it's good enough.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
So so we're gonna round off this segment Alan, because
we've got to go into overdrive segment in a few minutes.
But just your your final thoughts again, I want to
thank you for joining us. This is such an important conversation, Alan,
and you know you bring a lot to this conversation
in many different facets. That's why it's it's great that
people hear what you have to say. But yeah, just

(01:34:00):
give you the final final word before we go to break.
Go ahead, Ellen.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Not to sound too too prophetic, too serious, but this
is a very serious time. This is a very serious
time the future of the US, the future of Western
so called civilization, and we need, we still need to
see evidence that this is indeed the civilization. It hangs

(01:34:26):
in the balance.

Speaker 6 (01:34:27):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
How the West is able to treat Israel, to rain
in Israel, or the handle or to handle the aftermath
of what Israel is doing is really going to define
its future. And we didn't mention it. But this genocide

(01:34:51):
comes at a particularly important or meaningful time in history
because this we are exactly at the moment where the
Eastern powers are taking the lead basically in human culture

(01:35:13):
and the great human civilization, and the West seems to
be losing momentum. So to allow this to shape and
color the Western civilization at this very moment maybe the
biggest mistake this civilization has made in a very long time.

(01:35:33):
And frankly, I don't see much hope for the US
changing courts anymore. It's had such a long time to
do it, so many different people, to administrations, two parties,
so many media outlets, and I'm sorry, I can't see
change coming from the US anymore, sadly, because I would

(01:35:54):
really like to see the US being what it promised
to be, which is which is a vibrant and open society,
with open debate and with with with the love and
respectful equality and all those things which are so important
and vital for the US. But I'm not saying this

(01:36:17):
happening anytime soon. I have some hope for Europe, some hope.
It's limited, but it's there because we can see a
position which we can see people standing up, people saying enough.
We can't see children dismembered and dying every day forever,
which seems like what Israel wants to do. So everything

(01:36:40):
now depends on whether is well manages succeeds in dragging
the US to one with the run, and it looks
like it will. And this may be the last moments
of this previous sane world that we had, because things
are not going to be the same after this war,

(01:37:03):
after this war breaks, and I think it to me,
it looks like we're minutes away from it and everything
that we I mean, everything that the discussion in the
West is going to look so irrelevant after this war.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Yeah, thank you, Alan. I think it is a very
very crucial period right now, and it's almost like a
lot of people think need some kind of a collective epiphany,
a miracle and a change in thinking. I agree with you.
I think the US is on a downward trajectory that's
almost like terminal. It's very very hard to change. And

(01:37:47):
you know, but it wouldn't be the first time an
empire is locked into a terminal decline. And I think,
but the impact on this is going to be particularly brutal.
I think for other people in the collateral damage, this
is going to cause wide ranging effect, which you talked
about for.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
The one and it's just one sentence. I mean, it
was such an easy test. It's not a difficult test.
When children are being amputated without anesthesia. This is not
a difficult moral test for anyone. I don't give a
fuck what you believed in, what your God is called,

(01:38:26):
who your grandfather was, what revolution is stand for or opposed.
It's meaningless to me when the end result of what
you stand for is such brutality and cruelty and sadism
towards the life in its purest and defenseless form as
children or women in labor or right after labor. When

(01:38:51):
this is what you stand for, then you are and
utter an adject failure. And there are no there's no
context for this, there are no reasons for this, there
are no other ways to see it. Everything you stand
for is a lie, and you're a vicious and evil
human being. And I'm saying this to every American politician,

(01:39:13):
every American media figure who still sells and peddles this
two sided nonsense or pro Israel non says, what does
it mean to be pro is Well? How can you
be on the side of the people who starve babies
to death? M h, it wasn't it wasn't a difficult test,

(01:39:34):
and still America failed miserably, miserably, all of America, all
political parties, everyone. This is this is just this. This
is a sad way to go. This is not a
nuclear war with with Soviet Russia. Right. This is the
simplest This is something you had to solve on your

(01:39:57):
first day of grade school. This is not an easy challenge.
This is not a difficult challenge. How do you fail this?
This is the question we're going to be It's going
to torment us for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
I suspect, yeah, it's a question that we were all
scratching our heads being educated about previous world wars and holocausts. Oh,
how could it possibly happen? Look at this utopia we've
constructed after the Second World War. We'll never have that
problem again, will we. We're not going to be involved
in any such thing, and so we're getting that education.

(01:40:36):
That was always a question lingering in the back of
our heads, even as teenagers when we're learning history, and
there's always like, how could this have happened in Germany?
You know, etc. And I think we have the answers
to a lot of those questions. Very sadly, very sadly,
we have them. We have some of the answers.

Speaker 7 (01:40:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
I think that maybe ten years ago, and while I
was still writing only in Hebrew. I only started writing
in English after the genu said, because I realized there
was no point I have no use for Hebrew anymore politically.
I wrote a status on my Facebook saying, like a

(01:41:20):
conversation between a child and fathers Charlie is saying, Daddy,
how did the Holocaust happen? How did it happen? And
the father answers like this, this is how it happened.
Because I could see this coming, I could see where
this was going. And yet this is how it happened.
This is how the worst things happen. We can see

(01:41:42):
it all clearly.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Allen, missus Rahi, thank you for joining us on the
Sunday Wire a lot more. Hopefully we can discuss in future.
But go to Alan's account if access still online, Alan
underscore Miss Rahi plus the miss Rahi inspect that we've
got a link on our show page. Goes to his
YouTube channel you want to subscribe, and do check his

(01:42:06):
videos that he's releasing, in the content that he's putting out. Alan,
and we really appreciate again, thank you for making the effort.
We managed to get it together and hopefully we'll do
it again.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Yes, I hope so do. Thank you, Pendrick, it's been
a joy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
Thank you, Thank you Allen. There he goes, Ladies and gentlemen,
that is Alan Misraie again. All the links are on
the show page. We're going to go to break right
now and we'll connect with a few members of our
team after the break Basil Valentine, among others. We'll discuss
this and much much more in Overdrive. Look forward to
seeing here. In the meantime, enjoy the music of Peyote

(01:42:44):
for President, one of my new favorite tracks. It's been
around since October seventh. It's called the Palestinian Children. We'll
see in a few minutes.

Speaker 8 (01:43:08):
All of the pictures left dumb painted, all of the
games they.

Speaker 6 (01:43:12):
Left don't played on the left to him.

Speaker 8 (01:43:15):
The playground, all of the arts they never made. Ghost
spaces are a million Palestinian children.

Speaker 6 (01:43:30):
All of those voices.

Speaker 8 (01:43:31):
Left in silence or with the names written in kind list.
Their body is more vulnerable. Let us have to dials
to find those spaces are Amelia Palastania children? What are

(01:43:53):
the songs they never written?

Speaker 9 (01:43:55):
What are the words him never was saying?

Speaker 6 (01:43:58):
And the dumbness of them?

Speaker 8 (01:44:00):
Now an escape a that rings the ghost faces of
a million palace.

Speaker 5 (01:44:07):
Than your children.

Speaker 8 (01:44:15):
I have a tryan helpless children, God's most precious and
most dear. I have the begging you all the reason,
how could you ever leave us here? I close the
eyelids are a million palas than your children. So what

(01:44:37):
do we really stand for?

Speaker 6 (01:44:40):
Is this how a future Spain?

Speaker 8 (01:44:43):
And when we ever found that courage to stand help,
I'm afraid I tear away the persecution of the palace.

Speaker 6 (01:44:52):
Dan your children, rise.

Speaker 8 (01:45:00):
Up and be the guardians of the palace. Damn you children,
two respects of the case and recreateor afromation. This eversold
is unsponcesion. Save that palace, Dan Yet, children, Save that palace.

Speaker 6 (01:45:30):
Dan Yet, Chill run.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Sunday Wire.
This is episode five hundred and forty eight of the
Sunday Wire. Thank you to our guest before, Alan ms Rockey.
That was a bit tricky getting him connected. We eventually did.
We started a little bit late, but you know it
was well worth it, and I it would be because
what Alan brings to the conversation is absolutely unique and

(01:46:06):
I can't thank him enough for sharing his thoughts, feelings
and insights with the current situation. Obviously we can go
a lot deeper in a lot of different areas with him.
Hopefully we'll get Alan back for another continuation of this
important discussion. So much at stake for everybody right now
in the world, and we thank him so much for

(01:46:27):
joining us. Now we're an Overdrive segment and I want
to bring on some of our teammates as well. Before
we do that, though, I also want to point people
up at twenty first century wire dot com. The Sunday
screening this week is a pretty incredible film and I'm
very happy they've made this publicly available for everybody. This
is why we're featuring it. It's called The Settlers. This

(01:46:49):
was two thy and sixteen, this was made. This is
a really If you saw the Louis Thureau film recently,
which is excellent in the style of Louis throw this
is quite a more developed, more detailed, multi layered documentary,
quite an outstanding piece of film work. Actually, it's one
of the better documentaries you'll see on this topic or

(01:47:12):
any topic historically. And just the documents, the interviews, everything,
the effects, the way it's edited. It's quite a beautiful film.
But it's an inside look the hidden world of the
Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank. Okay, now you
can see where things are really headed. When you watch
this film, you'll know what the endgame is basically, but

(01:47:34):
it gives you the whole historical background how we got
to this all of the sort of chickannery in deception
politically that was getting us to the settlers. That's up
at twenty first century wire dot com. That's our Sunday
screening this week. Every Sunday we feature a documentary film.
Our team puts it up, there decides, puts it up,

(01:47:54):
and we share it with our audience and a lot
of you guys appreciate that. I know you do. You'll
love this film for sure. Now, without further ado, I
want to bring on stage a couple of our teammates
and friends colleagues, Mister Basil Valentine joining us on the
live link right now. I'm sure Basil found that last
conversation with our guest extremely interesting. You may comment on that.

(01:48:18):
And also Rucus Adam Clark aka Ruckus joining us from
Alternate Current Radio. And also Brian McLain aka Heshsher also
hosted The Boy of the Room at ACR. It's a
pretty formidable brain trust we brought together here, you guys,
and your backgrounds are really something else. I'll tell you,

(01:48:40):
And don't tell me you don't.

Speaker 10 (01:48:43):
Reporting from an undisclosed location.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
Don't tell me you're not coordinating these things as well,
So very interesting, very interesting. So Basil is the only
one with a normal myself in Basil with a normal background.
Are you guys going to wrap up a little note
and stick it in the hole behind there? I need
the hat first. I need a little hat. You need

(01:49:06):
a little hat. Yeah, you need the little hat, and
you're good to go. If you do that, you're halfway
to becoming a US senator.

Speaker 11 (01:49:13):
So just maybe maybe they would just remove I'd be
happy if they would just remove my visibility filtering and
shadow banning.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
I mean, is that what has to happen?

Speaker 11 (01:49:21):
I mean, do I have to go kneel before the
wall and stick a note in there and do the visibility.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Filters automatically disappear? That's my question to Elon.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
They might, They might, It could help, It could help.
You could put out a whole declaration, appeal conversion, and
you're willing to convert, That's probably what it's going to
take at this point. You've got to go all the way.
Basil I don't think willing to do that to get
his Twitter account back after taking on the information Minister
of Propaganda from the State of Israel, which is how

(01:49:53):
Basil lost his account. He took on the mighty and
powerful Elon Levy, who's one of the most hated people
in the world, but it got Basil's x account nuked. Unfortunately.

Speaker 12 (01:50:05):
That's why I have some breaking news in this department. Patrick,
You're not going to believe this, but go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah,
real quick. Just while we're on the topic here, because
I had difficulty finding your post today, so I had
to sign into my other account, which is not verified,
the rockest Room, and as you can see here, ex
itself advised me that I should become verified so that

(01:50:27):
I can get boosted.

Speaker 10 (01:50:30):
Reply and reach.

Speaker 12 (01:50:31):
Like so all you have to do is get the
verified check mark and you get the boosted reach apparently,
but obviously we know that's a lie. So I thought
that was incredibly ironic and strangely timely.

Speaker 10 (01:50:42):
I'm like, what do these people think job?

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
Guys, do you trust that he can put Dubai on
Mars in five years like he promises? You can't even
run this damn app. Sorry, sorry for being cruel, Basle Valentine.
Are you going to get your Twitter account back?

Speaker 5 (01:50:58):
Well? I I said that the perpetrators of the Gaza
holocaust should face the same penalties as anatists did at
the end of the Second World War, some of whom,
of course were hanged, and he took that to be
a personal threat. So obviously guilty concerts there. But you
can't threaten people on Twitter. So but it seems you

(01:51:21):
can say also, I mean, I've made a collection of
other things where people have been far more direct in
terms of threats, and I'm going to get back in
touch with them at some point. But I want to
go back to what Alan Mizrahi was saying, that it's
not it's not a difficult moral conundrum. You know. Are

(01:51:42):
you in favor of the mass murder and mutilation of
babies and children and starving the remainder to death? Yes? No,
you know, and you are a total failure as a
human being and a deeply evil person. It's worth remembering,
of course, that lettin Ya who likes to frame the

(01:52:03):
Gaza Holocaust as one where Israel is the side of
the light. Believe it or not, but that's what you
expect from a Satanist, from a Luciferian. They claim to
be the light bringers, just as they slaughter people. At
least thirty eight Palestinians have been killed in the last
twenty four hours in Gaza. I always feel we need

(01:52:27):
to mention what's going on. Lots of people still under
the rubble after attacks on al Bala and Jabelia camp today,
and of course just yesterday, nine siblings were murdered in
a single attack, the children of a surgeon. The Israeli
has waited until the father went in the house before

(01:52:50):
firing a missile into it, killing everybody inside. I mean,
the war crimes are just off the charts, as Alan said,
even what was happening before the ceasefire, I mean, that
was as bad as it gets. But they've gone on
an insane killing orgy, a real bloodlust since the Cincinnetaya

(01:53:15):
who collapsed the ceasefire, and it is a kind of
primordial insanity, as Ailon said. But the stone walling from politicians,
he referenced to the United States. I've been looking at
the United Kingdom today continues. You had the so called
leader of the Conservative Party, Kemmy Baideno, was on television

(01:53:38):
this morning. She was asked about Palestinian casualties and the genocide,
and in her reply she didn't mention the word Palestinian
once she simply talked about looked over the seventh killing
of Israelis and a really bizarre answer to be asked
about the genocide and simply to go back to a

(01:54:00):
single day eighteen months ago as if nothing has happened since.
But she made an equally telling comment, more so really
on Sky News when she said that Israel is fighting
a proxy war on behalf of the UK, just as
Ukraine is doing against Russia. Now, I mean, we haven't
heard anything like this from British politician before. I mean,

(01:54:23):
she is totally out of her debts. She's not intellectually
equipped really to be an NP let alone leader of
a once major party. But nevertheless, is she letting something
slip that she knows from the corridors of power. You know,
she basically supported Netanyahu's statement that Kirstarmer, Makron and Mark

(01:54:48):
Carney are all anti Seamites for daring daring to say,
you know, perhaps you've done enough killing for the time being.
The optics of starving hundreds of thousand the people to
death aren't fantastic. How about easing up a bit and
Vada not pushed back against that. Now, you know, the

(01:55:11):
British people are being done a great disservice by people.
This doesn't represent anybody at all except her own opinions.
And you know, organizations like the Toy Party really need
to be decapitated.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
Just rewind a little bit. She said that Britain's fighting
a proxy war Israel.

Speaker 5 (01:55:31):
Israel is fighting a proxy war on behalf of.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
The UK, which infers that Britain is using Israel to
fight a war against Iran. Is that probably what she is?

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
Well, you know, possibly, I mean she she moves very
quickly onto her next statement, which was that Ukraine is
fighting a proxy war for the UK against Russia. She
seems to be all in favor of proxy wars. I'm
sure she'd like to escalate them. But yes, that's you know,
that's basically what she said. No, I mean, we know

(01:56:09):
how deeply anti Russian, how Russophobic the UK national Security
state is. But saying as she did that Israel is
fighting a proxy war on behalf of the UK with
the genocide, well, she's not in power. I don't know
the extent to which she can be held culpable and

(01:56:32):
charges brought against her. She was part of the last
Conservative government and the genocide was well underway before last July,
so she's another one that goes to need to go
on the prosecute list. But my final point is this,
she does unfortunately represent a strand in right wing British thinking,

(01:56:55):
which has been of course hijacked by the likes of
Tommy Robinson. You have a nasty confluence coming together of
traditional as it were, Zionists like Michael Gough, who one
of the most bizarre things I've ever seen, said that
the idea should be nominated for the Nobel Priest Prize.

(01:57:18):
Believe it or not, I mean, really insane, total inversion
of reality. You've got sort of horrid little Zionists like him,
full throated in their support of the genocide because they're
Israel lovers, and then the likes of Tommy Robinson stirring
up the you know, increasingly vocal nationalist right in Britain

(01:57:46):
reform type voters, and his pitch is you know again,
I mean, we don't know whether he's directly paid by
Mossad or not, is it relevant, but is echoing the
Israeli talking point that they are engaged in an existential
war on behalf of Western civilization against the Muslim hordes,

(01:58:09):
and you know that resonates with low IQ right wingers
in Britain. Got Oh, I don't like Muslims either, there's
too many of them in Britain. So if Israel's atly Muslim,
then I'm pro Israel, simple as that. You know, you're
completely unaware of the fact that the Palestinians are the
indigenous people to the area. So if they support indigenous people,

(01:58:31):
like indigenous Brits against recent arrivals, they should talk to
Palestinians against the recent Israelian rivals. But that kind of
logic doesn't make it where to make its way through.
I mean, there are other figures on the sort of
so called far right, like Nick Griffin, who are far
more politically savvy and know what's going on. But there's this,

(01:58:53):
as I say, there's this unholy alliance on the right,
which actually only represents a relatively small percentage of public opinion.
Polls in the UK show overwhelming support for the Palestinian cause.

Speaker 6 (01:59:06):
Well and just.

Speaker 5 (01:59:09):
Most people are capable of recognizing genocide when they see it.
But you've got this unholy alliance, as I say, of
nationalists hoodwinked into believing that Israel's cause is somehow linked
to their own. Nothing could be further from the truth.
It's worth pointing out to them that the hordes of

(01:59:32):
Muslim immigrants that they object to so much have been
driven here largely by wars conducted for Israel. Afghanistan, of course,
Iraq and Syria. All that has been thrown into turmoil
at Israel's behest and so hence we see lots of

(01:59:54):
people crossing the channel from those parts of the world
to the UK. But that's far too subtle a point
those that love to grasp.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Indeed, indeed it is. And I'll go to our colleagues
here Hesher and Ruckus, but this is exactly why Israel
is supporting this idea of a white genocide in South Africa.

Speaker 6 (02:00:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
And they're they're trying to bring that immigration issue together
with somehow an overall worldview foreign policy. This is why
they are very keen to back reimmigration conferences in Britain.
You've probably seen these as well. This is the Israeli
lobby and they're flying these people over to America to
do podcasts with Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin and I

(02:00:44):
don't know, I'm just you know, putting two and two together.
I see the money flowing there, and I see the
rhetoric and how it's shaping the White House policy, and
it's kind of kind of a no brainer to me.
Hesher and Ruckus. I don't know if you guys have
picked up any of the He's connected any of these
dangerous dots recently.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
Go ahead, Yeah, absolutely, uh It.

Speaker 11 (02:01:08):
It really feels to me like they're trying to do
the same thing with this topic that they've done with
so many other topics, which is, make it be political,
make it be about right versus left, make it be
about you know, democrats. And it's so it's such a
thin veneer. This whole idea, you know, is insanely thin.

(02:01:36):
Only those low IQ people that Basil just mentioned, who
don't look very deeply into much of anything when it
comes to world events, are going to buy into this.
You know, Alon said it really well there near the
end of his segment, and you know he was talking about,
you know, when he discovered Walt Whitman and all these

(02:01:58):
other American authors, and you know, that's the whole thing
with this country. We're allowed to dissent and governments do
go bad, and we have a constitutional duty to disallow
that from happening. So how we go about that when
things are this far gone. I don't really know yet.

(02:02:20):
I'm not really sure, but I don't know. At this point.
It's like I could sit here and say free Palestine
and oppose neocons, and according to Piers Morgan and Benjamin
Nett and Yahoo, I'm singing the chorus to Kanye's new
song by saying that, you know and and I don't
know how to feel about the whole like Kanye thing

(02:02:42):
and where this all comes into it. Is this a
natural reaction from him? Because if it is a natural reaction,
it's totally understandable. But we can't lose sight of the
fact that he's been threatened with MK ultra style punishments
for speaking out in the past, and that leaves a
little bit of room for questioning. So, you know, free
Palestine opposed warmonger neo cons There, I said it. I

(02:03:07):
guess I might as well be in Kanye's troop of dudes,
you know, outside of Ditty's star on the Walk of
Hollywood Fame.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Did you guys see that that was bananas?

Speaker 4 (02:03:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
So Kanye about a.

Speaker 11 (02:03:22):
Week ago, I saw a report somebody reporting from outside
of a industrial building that Kanye owns or rents, and
they showed a flyer that he put out and it said,
you know, I'm looking for these type of people to
come and you know, practice for something.

Speaker 2 (02:03:40):
You know, didn't really say what it was.

Speaker 11 (02:03:42):
So there's these people outside this compound and they can
literally hear a bunch of dudes inside the compound screaming hh,
you know and listening to the song. And then just
this week, a group of African American dudes dressed in
all black circled around Didty's on the Walk of Frame,
Walk of Fame, and they all performed Kanye's song. They

(02:04:06):
all sat there and did the whole hh thing right
there in the middle of Hollywood. It was one of
the most bizarre displays I've ever seen. I have no way,
I have no means of analyzing this without more information.
All I know is something weird has been going on
ever since Kanye showed up with the net and the

(02:04:27):
mask and the Yahoo chocolate drink.

Speaker 2 (02:04:31):
The world got flipped upside down.

Speaker 11 (02:04:33):
The Overton window not just nudged, got shoved in a
very different direction. And now none of these social media
channels are stopping us from having these conversations anymore, which
they were doing before that event. And now we're at
the point where Kanye's dudes are literally screaming hh in

(02:04:54):
the streets in Hollywood, and all this conversation is going on,
and I can't help but think, I don't know if
that's helping or if that's hurting, Because it's dry, it's
polarizing people, you know, it's it's dragging some people over.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
To that side.

Speaker 11 (02:05:10):
But I don't know if they have the nuance and
the you know, the context with which to describe what
they're doing and what they're saying and why they're supporting it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
Maybe some of them do.

Speaker 11 (02:05:21):
I'd love to hear some of their you know, longer
form responses to it. But something very strange is going on,
and I think it has to do with the politicization
of the topic, just like they did with COVID. Remember
with COVID, it was like, no nobody on either side
is going to talk about it, Nobody on either side
is allowed to show any hesitancy, any any you know,

(02:05:43):
any argumentation against the safety, the effectiveness, and the necessity
of it all. And then once midterm elections came up
in twenty twenty two. In the lead up to midterm elections,
all of a sudden, you had mainstream podcasters and mainstream
Republicans talking about lab leagues in China and and don't

(02:06:05):
trust the you know, the various products that are being
injected into people.

Speaker 2 (02:06:09):
And where were you guys. We've said this over and
over again.

Speaker 11 (02:06:11):
Where were all you people when we were getting shadow band,
when we were getting called Grandma killer? For like a
year and a half, almost two years, we were getting
called these things, And now all of a sudden, No
big deal, It's okay, it's political. It's a right versus
left thing. People on the left are smart, people on
the right are stupid. And I'm afraid that's where they're
trying to nudge this topic. However, I think a lot

(02:06:34):
of people are getting smart, a lot of people are
getting you know, forgive the term very red pilled on
this topic over the last What are we going on
three years now of this despicable, horrible genocide leading to
potentially a war with Iran?

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
And you know, I think that's the other thing that
that was said by Alan.

Speaker 11 (02:06:55):
You know, that's what I'm waiting on, like everything else
is noise at this point is pretty much gone.

Speaker 2 (02:07:01):
Now they're destroying the rubble. They're on they're doing missions
to like.

Speaker 11 (02:07:05):
Level the rubble now, to like to hide all the evidence,
hide all the bodies. I mean, they're just vaporizing entire
you know blocks that are nothing, but they've already been vaporized,
but now they're being revaporized down to dust. So this
is you know, pretty much dead and done. Forgive the pun.
It's horrible, but when I look there, I just I

(02:07:27):
see nothing left. So the next thing is Iran. Is
this gonna blow up into Iran? Is this gonna blow
up into a world war or something like that? Or
a massive attack, preemptive attack on Iran for no reason,
for propaganda reasons. That's pretty much what I'm waiting for
right now.

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
Yes, and maybe even a little property deal there on
the Gaza Strip after it's all said and none, for
our our man and Jared and the rest of them, Ruckus,
what do you make of all this.

Speaker 12 (02:07:59):
A scenario and what you're describing there hesher is technically
nothing new, and we've all experienced it and dealt with
it together along the way. Take nine to eleven For
a perfect example, you just said things turning to dust
and I was like, oh yeah, perfect correlation here and
the lab Leaku, Fammy, It's like every single narrative on
the planet is how do you know it's a narrative?

(02:08:20):
How do you know it's a syg up? Because they
instantly have this what appears to be an organic growth
from within these movements to then control it and shape
the narrative.

Speaker 10 (02:08:30):
So it's okay for a select group of the population.

Speaker 12 (02:08:34):
Heck, the whole world can run around and say nine
to eleven was an inside job. But as long as
they think that rather than knowing the actual truth of
what happened that day, is totally okay for them to
say that. Whereas, like any other country, to suggest that
your own country was involved in doing such a thing,
there's no way that would fly, right.

Speaker 10 (02:08:50):
But it's totally cool here.

Speaker 12 (02:08:51):
Epstein didn't kill himself popular conspiracy theory, So let's all
argue about whether or not he killed himself or that
he was murdered when maybe the guy's living and up
on an island somewhere. Let's go back and forth about
the lab league. Was it the bat soup or hey,
maybe there's no such thing as a virus. These are
all you know, There's all these different talking points, so
I don't trust any of the narratives. It seems very

(02:09:13):
controlled with this being allowed to talk about the J word.
I don't believe it for a second. You look at
the people who are doing these things. It's that hard
swing to the far extreme. It's always to the extreme.
There's no nuance. Everything's getting conflated. And right now we're
at a seriously dangerous point when legislation is being discussed

(02:09:33):
to make it illegal. Dangerous for Hasher to say what
he just said, to just practice his First Amendment rights.
He just called for violence, according to some of these people,
and we may have just lost the YouTube stream for
talking about this stuff. That's where we're headed, and that's
that's what I'm very concerned about. By the way, the
only person that I had heard making that connection about

(02:09:53):
South Africa and the genocide was you Patrick. But maybe
because I've been not seeing a lot of good stuff
on my xpeed lately, but I do believe what you
were talking about in there. I think there's the hidden
red herring is Elon Musk. I think, like the mainstream
media on the left side of the liberal media will
be happy to examine this and say, oh, wait a minute,
did they set this guy up in order to do

(02:10:15):
a favor for Elon Musk? Again keeping all eyes off
of the potential real issue, because a lot of these
countries seem to be getting, you know, bad things keep
happening to them, like they got some sort of bad
karma following them around after making comments about the ICC case,
like Spain, ooh, sorry, there went all your communications, you know,
stuff like that.

Speaker 10 (02:10:34):
It's very very suspicious lately, folks.

Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
Yeah, there was a power cut in can as well,
you know, for the cam Film Festival. They had a
power cut and of course Juliana Sanche has been there
last week and he wore a T shirt with the
names of thousands of murdered Palestinian children printed very small
on it. I don't know if you saw that. There

(02:11:00):
were a lot of press photographers taking snaps of him,
and a new film about his incarceration was screened. There
was very little coverage in the corporate media of the
shirt he unveiled on the red carpet and why he
was wearing it.

Speaker 1 (02:11:20):
Yeah, that's that was great.

Speaker 5 (02:11:21):
Yeah, I mean also there was a there was a
screening of the documentary made by the Palestinian filmmaker who
was murdered immediately after hearing that her film had been selected.
Do you remember about that, Patrick, Yes, yes, they do, yep.
And that was originally due to take place in one
of the hotels, the Hotel Majestic Barriere, but that had

(02:11:43):
to be moved at the last minute to the to
one of the pavilions inside the festival itself. I don't
know why. I think it's highly likely that the hotel
came under pressure from the death Cult not to show
the film.

Speaker 1 (02:12:03):
Yes, yes, And as I was saying in a minute
ago that it's great to see Julian made it there,
I think that's amazing that he.

Speaker 5 (02:12:11):
I was disappointed that I didn't make it there, Patrick,
I would like to have been there. You should have
been there. We should have been at that screening with Julian.
We should have been at the screening of the Palestinian film,
but unfortunately it wasn't to be this year.

Speaker 1 (02:12:27):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been something. But anyway, it's
great to see a Songe there. It's a brilliant film.
According to people I know that have seen the screening.
So I think that's great that that's on the historic
record and we'll have connected correct the story on Julia
sane and let the establishment languish. But Ruckus and you guys,

(02:12:47):
you mentioned this, this white genocide thing. I mean, I
think we might have a couple of the clips we'll
throw up on the on the screen. But this was
really another level for me to see this Trump saying,
let's turned down the lights, turned down the lights and
like literally like he said, he ambushed he literally Shanghai
the head of state. I mean it's kind of like

(02:13:09):
that's probably the worst thing you can do when you
invite someone for a state visit is to set them up.
But to me, the humiliation was on Trump because the
South Africans are like, this guy's freaking crazy, Like these
people are just making shit up. And then like who,
like he had all these internet articles and Trump says
death death, He's turning these pages. I actually I've got

(02:13:31):
a video of this, you guys. I mean, I know
you guys have watched this, but for those of our
listeners who haven't, we'll give him a little bit of
a taster here. I mean, there's so much this thing
is just full of highlights. If I was to put
it reel together, it was so incredible. But to watch this,
I could show you a couple of things and I would,

(02:13:52):
I just I have to.

Speaker 5 (02:13:54):
It has to be responded. To show up.

Speaker 8 (02:13:57):
Let me see the articles plays of a you would
and turn excuse me, turn the lights down, turn the
lights down, and just put this on this right behind you.

Speaker 13 (02:14:07):
Yeah, it's not mournament.

Speaker 3 (02:14:10):
We told we thought you people went to bland.

Speaker 13 (02:14:16):
From you from the present, from no one.

Speaker 9 (02:14:19):
A few days.

Speaker 8 (02:14:21):
Death of people, death, death, death, horrible death.

Speaker 1 (02:14:33):
Just so the death, horrible death, so absent credit. One
of those articles Trump had was from the American Thinker
and it was it was an article about uru Congolese
women that were killed in some event in Congo. And
he literally showed it on camera, so people screenshot it,

(02:14:54):
did did the quick search on it. Found out had
nothing to do with South Africa. I mean, that alone
is embarrassing. But Trump said that they that there were
mass graves, and he was talking about this clip that's
gone viral and he cut it so he's literally the
cherry picking clips from videos without context, and he basically said,

(02:15:17):
this is evidence of a white genocide, that there's white
crosses along the road, and that this was somehow, you know,
a genocide. But here's that. So what we did was
just basically go online and look for the original. It
was a documentary from twenty twenty and they weren't graves.

(02:15:37):
They were a memorial for two people that were killed,
and the crosses were put up by blacks and whites
from the area to have a kind of message of
unity against crime and farmers being killed black and white.
So Trump and Elon Musk really twisted this and turned
it into a racial kind of provocation. That's just the

(02:16:01):
opposite of what And the crosses aren't there. I went
to Google Maps. I went to Google Maps. They've been
the earliest photo. The latest photo is from twenty twenty three.
They removed the crosses. So not only is it not
a mass grave, the crosses aren't there. And so Trump
got this, you know, five year old documentary. Here's a
clip from it. So what happened to him?

Speaker 2 (02:16:23):
Although he's wife, We don't look at the corner.

Speaker 1 (02:16:27):
We look at what we are doing.

Speaker 14 (02:16:30):
We're doing the same thing all farmers.

Speaker 1 (02:16:34):
Next time, it's going.

Speaker 15 (02:16:35):
To figure were here this morning at Newcastle where about
a way where last week there was a couple murdered
just outside towards Norman Deanway. So all the farmers and yeah,
every one interested in the cause is gathered together now
and we are going to be driving from Newcastle to
Normandean to the farm where the couple was murdered, and yeah,

(02:16:56):
and fighting for the cause, for fighting for the farmers,
fighting for equality, fighting against corruption.

Speaker 6 (02:17:02):
Fighters.

Speaker 14 (02:17:05):
A local farmer and friend of the reffitees, Rob Hodson,
put up hundreds of crosses along the road leading to
their farm. Almost overnights. Three thousand people climbed into a
thousands so vehicles, tractors, BUCkies, sprayers, trucks, Combi's and cars.
It took ours for the Somber Precision to pass the

(02:17:25):
boulevard of crossing.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
So it's not a mass grave, guys. And it's not
like white genocide. It's the opposite. And people aren't The
South Africans aren't polarized over that event. But Trump and
Elon Musker polarized and they managed to get the entire
Fox News crowd, Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, and then

(02:17:51):
the whole MAGA write thinking that that was a white genocide.
I mean, this is beyond propaganda. This is like the
lower level of information I've ever seen, guys, and you know,
and hats off to our our team, Freddie of course,
giving him all the credit for putting this. This is

(02:18:13):
like basically all of the questions you could possibly want
to know as to the true state of affairs, and
it's all here and admissions from you know, Afrikaners saying
that there's no white genocide. This guy here from the
Afro Forum, the Afrikaans Organization on categorically no, there's no

(02:18:35):
white genocide here. All I had to do was google this.
It wasn't I mean, what's up with Trump's research team? Guys,
what's there of talent they got there?

Speaker 2 (02:18:47):
I don't get it. I don't get it, man.

Speaker 11 (02:18:49):
I mean I through my Telegram account and my ex
account and you know, being connected to journalists around the
world and just people around the world world that have
been recommended, have seen mass graves, have seen actual real
time mass graves in Ukraine and in Gaza. So you know,

(02:19:12):
for a mass grave situation to be made up and
a genocide to be made up, are things perfect in
South Africa? No, there's corruption there's violence. It's not great
in many places, it's dangerous in many places. But guess
what that's happening here in America too, right now it's

(02:19:34):
getting worse. They tell us it's getting better because they
close the border and they're deporting people, but actually it
continues to degrade. So you know, pretty pretty pretty stark
when you see actual, real mass graves and that kind
of horror happening in near real time on your little

(02:19:54):
black mirror device. And then these guys want to come
out and tell us, oh, look over here, look, look
look over here at the white people being killed.

Speaker 1 (02:20:03):
I'll really bring it home for you. Hasher on that
front in America. So I looked at the crime statistics
from South Africa last year. I think there were thirty
thirty farmers were killed in South Africa, Okay, the whole
it's a huge country. I don't know what the population
is is probably around one hundred million, or it's fifty
more than way more than fifty million. Anyway, thirty million

(02:20:27):
people were killed farmers and some were black farm workers
and tenant farmers as well as owners you could say,
operator owners. So a total of thirty okay, as possible,
according to last year's statistics that more black farmers or
people working on farms were killed than white farmers out

(02:20:47):
of the total farmers in America? How many farmers committed
suicide last year because their land is being repolled by
banks with predatory practices, lending, corporate thievery, takeovers by Bill Gates,

(02:21:10):
and corporations mustling small family farms out of business, making
it impossible for them to make money. I don't have
the statistics to hand, but I tell you it might
be well higher than thirty. Does Donald Trump give a
flying you know what about American farmers? Or is Elon
Musk running our foreign policy with lies and gas lighting?

(02:21:34):
I'll tell you what. This is just so lowbrow, you know,
and so it's so America last, you know. Now, we've
got to save the africaners from a white genocide that's
not happening so f America. Is what Musk is saying,
and what Trump is doing and what Rubio is doing.

(02:21:57):
They don't want to deal with American problems because the
too difficult to solve because you need to you need
to have some brain power to do that. I don't
see it, guys, I'm really not. I'm not seeing it.
I'm really not the big beautiful bill. It's not I'm
not impressed. I mean, yeah, mention that buzz buzzil jump

(02:22:19):
in and then I want to hear from Ruckus. Go ahead, Basil.

Speaker 5 (02:22:22):
I mean, the really startling thing is that Trump so
concerned about about genocide. Why isn't he talking about the
very obvious it's genocide going on in Gaza. I mean,
absolutely ridiculous to give the South African premiere addressing down

(02:22:44):
about something that isn't happening. I mean, supposedly the idea
is Trump is terribly upset about the loss of human life. Well,
it's just total garbage. He's just trying to score some
political points. There have been some horrific murders of white
farmers in South Africa. I've had one or two absolutely awful,

(02:23:06):
blood curdling stories about people in outlying farms who've been
the victims of gang attacks.

Speaker 6 (02:23:13):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:23:15):
But the head of the Farmer's Union in South Africa,
white guy, he appeared midweek to say this is not happening,
there's no genocide going on. Of course, you have got
Julius Malema, the Communist party leader, and that famous song
kill the ball killer the farmer. There's footage of that.
I think that's amongst the things that that Trump played

(02:23:40):
to the premiere to Ramafosa. But that apparently requires historical context.
It's not meant to be taken literally. But you know
that was what the talking heads on CNN was saying
in the week. You know that kill the ball, kill
the farmer doesn't mean it. As Hesha said, well, big

(02:24:00):
problems in South Africa, but jenocide is not the right
word to describe it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:05):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you're right. I sp my South
African friends are trying to explain to me Julius Malaima
is the extreme fringe of the South African politics and
there's a court cases against him. So the government has
basically got him by the ear for provocations and things
like that. So he's not like, he's not a political leader,

(02:24:28):
he's not in the even in the A and C
Party he was kicked out. I think in twenty twelve.
I'm not mistaken, so fringe, but you know, of course
there are You know that fringe exists in a post
apartheid country where where the seven percent of the population
still owns seventy five percent of the land. And assets

(02:24:50):
the white population seven percent they owned seventy five percent.
You're going to have these problems. I'm sorry, it's post colonial,
post apartheid. With that, guys, it's not going to be
like you said, Basil, it's not perfect. Russia ups Russia
Freudian slip. I saw the flag on the comment Ruckus
go ahead.

Speaker 12 (02:25:11):
I've been The whole thing is so quite obviously a
show performance of sort, right down to the props. How
do you know that this propaganda when they're using props?
I mean quite literally, who are how badly do you
have to convince somebody about something?

Speaker 10 (02:25:28):
And how do you do that?

Speaker 12 (02:25:29):
The visual aids they do this in court, they do
this for kids. This was not for the benefit of
the gentleman in the chair of the South African leader.
So like this was this was a show. This was
like an episode on Maga TV. And that's exactly you
guys are all nailing it. He cherry picked all this
stuff knowing that nobody's going to bother to do their

(02:25:51):
research on this, and if they do, they're going to
send out the likes of like a Jensaki or somebody.
And so when your friend shares it, hey by the way,
just so you know, Trump did like, oh, you're crazy
because consider the source these wacko people like so totally
not going anywhere with that. So again, who are they
trying to convince? And why it reminds me? And where
did they get this playbook from? You were wondering who

(02:26:13):
wrote all of this, the script and everything for them.
I've seen this exact same behavior coming from the Israeli leadership.
I remember fondly, many many years ago, back when things
weren't so tense as they are now, but they were
still tense, and bb Net and Yahoo. I think it
was in front of the UN or somebody, and he
threw down like a hunk of metal like you was like,

(02:26:35):
there's your evidence. Here's like a drone that we shot
down from the sky. It was like an irene. It
was just very over dramatic, and it was like did
he just bring in like a prop and throw it
on the ground to same thing like we got the
little we got the little virus thing inside the vial.
See it's right here. I brought it in my shoot
my jacket and here it's around everybody. You want to
see it, you want to touch it, you want to

(02:26:55):
smell up the anthrax thing, of course. But yeah, so
I'm like, this is this is like a red flag
all over the place that this is totally false. And
you know, for the people who want to seriously question it,
I'm sure they'll just have to hear the fact that, oh,
you're mistaken, the flags are gone. Well that's because it's
the Mandela effect.

Speaker 6 (02:27:11):
Brouh.

Speaker 1 (02:27:12):
Yeah, quick, quick, quick fire around here. I want to
go to Hesher in the moment. Maybe you might come
in on this, Hesher, because this is very interesting. Trump
convinced farmers. This is from Joseph Houghton. Thank you Joseph
from YouTube. Trump convinced farmers to take loans for that big, beautiful,
big beautiful new equipment in twenty seventeen, just to shut
down the economy for two years COVID another bonehead move. Yeah,

(02:27:36):
there's a lot of complaints like this. There is a
lot of you know, stuff that's been swept under the
rug from you know before, and of course working class people,
farmers especially have been bearing the brunt of a lot
of this pain and suffering. Hesher your thoughts, Did I.

Speaker 6 (02:27:54):
Hear you right?

Speaker 2 (02:27:54):
You said thirty farmers in a year.

Speaker 1 (02:27:58):
Yeah, that's South Africa. Yeah, it's a big genocide.

Speaker 2 (02:28:01):
All right.

Speaker 11 (02:28:01):
Well, you know, speaking for Chicago in shytown, that is
actually a light weekend of murder. That's right, A light,
fairly not too bad weekend of murder.

Speaker 1 (02:28:21):
What where's Chicago? What country is that in this one?
We don't care about that. It's America. We don't care
Forget that, forget that. Look over here, look, look across
the world. There's something going on. There's a penguin genocide
in Antarctica.

Speaker 2 (02:28:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (02:28:41):
And it's a holiday weekend. Happy Memorial Day everybody, by
the way. But a holiday weekend is generally speaking the
worst weekend in places like Chicago, places like New Orleans,
places like Houston, places like Los Angeles that have really,
really high murder rates. I can guarantee you that as

(02:29:05):
of today, I mean, I'll eat my sandal if I'm wrong,
we've probably already hit thirty thirty gun deaths in Chicago
by Sunday. And this weekend doesn't end until tomorrow's over
because tomorrow's a holiday.

Speaker 1 (02:29:20):
Yeah, that's a light that's a light weekend, light weekend.
That's a safe weekend, tesha.

Speaker 11 (02:29:27):
And it's never reported on the mass media cartel. They
never ever ever want to tell us what the death
toll was in Shytown this weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:29:40):
Yeah, that's right, that's right, because people start asking questions
and demanding that, you know, something be done about it.
But it seems like it's a gun free zone as well.
By the way, Chicago just officially legally a gun free zone,
strictest gun control in the country next to certain parts
of New York, californ born in Massachusetts. Go figure, go figure,

(02:30:03):
that's how that works, folks. So here's the micro Psycho
was a great handle on Yeah x here Trump is
completely silent on Gaza and posting filthy videos about redevelopment,
and so spill your bile here you among the more
intelligent people. Yeah, we feel you, We feel you. W

(02:30:25):
w F Special Edition. Yeah, it was kind of w
w F in the showmanship way. But the South Africans
weren't faking it. They came up there, I think in
good faith. And Sarah Ramaposa, guys, is not stupid. Okay.
He knew there was going to be some some flak,
so he brought his agricultural minister who's Afrikaans white, and

(02:30:48):
he brought two PGA ranked golfers from South Africa because
he knew Trump would like.

Speaker 5 (02:30:55):
Yeah, two white guys, any else did you catch that, Basil?

Speaker 6 (02:31:00):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:31:00):
And he else was one of them. Yeah, yeah, from
a masta's champion.

Speaker 1 (02:31:05):
So Trump, So Ramaposa is not This is not a
stupid guy. You know, he's very polished Ramaposa and it
was very I mean to me, I was just embarrassed,
and I thought, you just don't deserve to be president.
Treating people like that.

Speaker 2 (02:31:20):
That is just like very.

Speaker 1 (02:31:24):
You don't do that anywhere, not even at a presidential level.
You know, don't do that at a corporate level. You
don't do that as a school teacher, as a It's
it's just what the caliber of people he's got around
him must be such street trade to try to because
Trump doesn't know what he's looking at. They say, Donald,

(02:31:44):
look at all these deaths and be like, oh, that's terrible. Yes,
you know, he doesn't know, but so the people around
him should have like a little bit of an idea
of what might be true, unless they're just intentionally being deceptive.
I don't want to think that. That's I'm just thinking stupid,
and they're carried away with the narrative. Elon on the
other hand, Nos, Elon knows, and he's he's spending it

(02:32:10):
and he he's a Elon is to me one of
the most dangerous people in politics because he was not
like politics.

Speaker 5 (02:32:17):
Now he's decided he sided it up. He says he's
not going to spend any more money on politics. I
mean he said. His fingers really badly burned. You know,
the whole Tesla thing has started to crazy breaking Elon's
out of politics. Basil just broke the biggest story of
the week.

Speaker 1 (02:32:34):
Breaking.

Speaker 11 (02:32:34):
Yeah, Now he can focus on making money in the
new technocratic right. You know, of course he's going to
stop spending money. He's he's bought his way into making money,
which is what smart investors do. You buy your way
into making money. And it looks like him and all
of those in his class in that odd stratosphere of
elite tech bros can all focus on exactly that now.

(02:32:59):
And one place I can say you will see that
kind of gotcha sort of thing that we just saw
in the White House from Trump is on reality television
or on mass media productions. That's where you see that
kind of stuff. And you know, people talk a lot
about Trump's background and how he is a reality TV person. Well,
that was a reality TV tactic right there, for for

(02:33:22):
a big like, you know, for a big viewership, for
a big you know, own own someone and get the
clip and boom.

Speaker 2 (02:33:29):
You know you're gonna get funded for season two.

Speaker 1 (02:33:33):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (02:33:33):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (02:33:34):
Totally fake, totally superficial. It was just for a sound
a sound bite, a memo, and all his all his
acolytes and MAGA people said, oh my god, Trump owned
this guy. He really just showed him. That was one
of the great I think it was Viva Fry is
this conservative influencer guy whatever, he said, this is one
of the greatest moments in presidential He's Canadian, by the way,

(02:33:56):
but anyway, this is one of the greatest moments in
presidential history. Like, I'm like, you're a lawyer. Did you
manage did you did you did you check any of
the stuff he presented? No, so you're obviously not a
very good lawyer. Oh that's why you're making YouTube videos
and not owning a law firm. I get it. Okay, great,

(02:34:17):
I mean it's just basic stuff. I started a little
war between us, by the way on X because I
challenged him on his comment. He got very very upset
and did this unhinged liberal tweet, liberal style rant tweet
against me, but didn't address any of the actual substuent
points I was asking about, Which is what's Trump presenting there?

(02:34:39):
Is it true or false? Turns out to be false?
Of course I'm no genius, but Ruckus, this is this
is showing you again we have these high level commenters
in our threads, and I like this one particularly surprised
he didn't show a satellite image of white farmer concentration camps. Hey,

(02:35:00):
if it can be done, it can be done. You
just have to like, get your team on it. Get
Dan Scovino on it. Find something on Google Maps it
looks like concentration count.

Speaker 10 (02:35:11):
That's that's how you know they're not serious. So that
this was this is one of two options.

Speaker 12 (02:35:16):
It was just to be super low hanging fruit for
the mega base who we've you know, discussed around, not
all MAGA, but like the ones who are just like yeah,
they'll take everything that they say and believe it, run
with it whatever, repeat it, make it go viral. The
blue check marks that just repost each other all the time.
With the breaking Trump just owns this guy. I'm like, well,

(02:35:38):
I mean the same kind of scenarios if you invite
somebody into a professional setting with the intention to do X,
Y and Z, and then you're like, yeah, we're gonna
do that, but first, can we lower the lights? I
got this picture of you in a compromising position with
a prostitute.

Speaker 10 (02:35:53):
It's like, what the heck is? This is pretty pretty wild.
But that's one option.

Speaker 12 (02:35:57):
The other option, of course, is that you know, they
could always you know, flip this script because remember Trump
made a lot of mistakes as it were, during the
twenty twenty thing, and then they were like, oh, well,
you know, it wasn't Trump's fault, it was the people
close to him.

Speaker 10 (02:36:12):
They deceived him.

Speaker 12 (02:36:14):
Maybe they've the far lefty democrats, those crazy people have
infiltrated the White House and the people close to the president,
and they're doing this on purpose to make them look bad.
I have no idea, but they're not very serious about
selling this to anyone other than the low level you know,
maga crowd. To be completely honest, it's quite obvious.

Speaker 1 (02:36:36):
Okay, Hesher, I'm going to put you on the spot
because this one's for you. This one's for you, mate,
we're going to defer to the experts on this. David
Moore says, black intra racial gun violence is not the
same as targeted violence against white land owners. Break this
argument down for.

Speaker 11 (02:36:56):
Well, I mean, I agree with I think I would
agree with you. You know, it's it's kind of an
apples and oranges situation. Uh, but you know, the the
statistics remain, and you know, the thing that really gets
me about this is like this, these statistics held up
even when Obama was president, and you know, you would

(02:37:18):
think that would be something that you know, that Obama
would address in a way other than just doing what
the left always doesn't and push, uh, you know, push
removal of the Second Amendment, you know, go to the
gun grab when when his own.

Speaker 2 (02:37:33):
Hometown is just hemorrhaging lives.

Speaker 11 (02:37:37):
You know, So one might wonder, well, okay, uh, is
that sort of like omission and negligence? Is that sort
of a maybe a softer appearing form of targeted violence?

Speaker 2 (02:37:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 11 (02:37:52):
I don't know, because that's that's basically about poverty and
education and just you know, the absolutely horrible feedback loop
of being stuck in some of these places where that's life.
So you know, the fact that that's not being addressed

(02:38:12):
is you know, one could make an argument that it
is a form of targeted violence against a group of people.

Speaker 1 (02:38:20):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's we're asking how best to reframe
the argument so it makes a better sense. Just image
in your head, guys. Ramaposa invites Trump to Johannesburg for
a meeting and says, turned down the lights. We have something.

(02:38:43):
What's going to be on that slideshow? I'm thinking Epstein
pictures parties with Trump Epstein And I imagine if that
was done on like Global TV, I mean, they probably declared,
they probably nuke South Africa after that, I mean Trump,
I mean, I I mean, it's just but it's ridiculous.
The whole concept of shanghaiing a world leader.

Speaker 5 (02:39:04):
Like that, it's well, I mean, as I said, I
keep coming back to the same point. But South Africa's
taken Israel to the International Court of Justice perpetrating an
actual genocide, and they've had started having their diplomat sanctioned
by the United States. You're doing so it's been huge

(02:39:25):
pushback against that. So of all the people to accuse
genocide of, you're actually accusing the country taking the lead
in trying to prevent one that we all know.

Speaker 6 (02:39:36):
Is going on.

Speaker 1 (02:39:38):
Yeah, and that's the obvious point. It's kind of like
it is a gaslighting exercise. It's kind of obvious you
really want to punish South Africa, demean or real genocide,
why propping up a fake one? I mean perfect Yes,
And they did pressure Congress to drop to get the
US to the lobby. Israeli lobby pressured US Congress specifically

(02:40:03):
to put to pressure the ICJ to drop the case's
that was widely reported in late in twenty twenty four.
So it's not you know, this isn't conspiracy theory we're dealing.
This is hardcore politics we're witnessing.

Speaker 12 (02:40:19):
And it could be an attempt to water down the
search terms for genocide because they do that stuff all
the time too. Because it was the timing of it
was right during or on the heels of massive reporting
coming from the United Nations about the starvation of the
Gosens and genocide, this genocide that we saw the thing
happen with THEO Vaughn and the back and forth there who,

(02:40:40):
by the way, Viva Fry, who you mentioned earlier, was
one of the people who attacked that guy on X
for his comments, which was just ridiculous. They sent the
usual suspects, people like him, Tim Poole, I think, also
ganged up against THEO.

Speaker 10 (02:40:53):
Yeah, I'm like, what is going on here?

Speaker 12 (02:40:55):
So again I think, you know, maybe it was just
a poor hearted last minute to attempt to like we
got to like get everybody who's when they're searching genocide.
We want to see Trump acting like a clown with
the South African guy rather than the real stuff.

Speaker 10 (02:41:08):
But who knows.

Speaker 1 (02:41:09):
Maybe yeah, yeah, the THEO von, I I replied to
THEO Von, but I was my mine was constructive. I
was like THEO, you know, better late than never. But
you know, you do realize you're platforming Jared Kushner. He's
directly involved in all that, just saying and you know,
try to it's not too late to make amends for
basically being a wall on the issue for the for

(02:41:30):
a year and a half. Do something for humanity. THEO
I was just throwing it out there, you know, whether
whether that interests these millionaire podcasters or not. Maybe. I mean,
I think if you've made it to a certain level,
you've got to escape velocity. Unless they think they're going
to get Kanyate? Do they think they're going to get Kanyate?
These guys anyone?

Speaker 2 (02:41:51):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (02:41:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:41:53):
They think they can speak out then they can do it.
They I think most of them could survive if they're smart,
just by pitching their sale a certain way. I mean,
how much money do you need? You know, you've they've
they've all paid off their houses, they've got second homes,
they got trophy wives.

Speaker 11 (02:42:12):
Huge audiences that will follow them anywhere they go exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:42:16):
So I mean, it's it's it's it's a good time
for some of these people. Rogan is starting to go.
He's been going off the reservation in the last couple
of months, so, like, I mean, he's super high in
terms of net worth. So it's like, are these guys
looking at Rogan and thinking, I need to be at that,
you know, I need to be worth one hundred million

(02:42:37):
before I have escape velocity When they're down there at
sort of five million, some of these podcasters are ten million.
I mean, is that the way they're thinking. I don't understand.
They they own their platforms, a lot of them, like
they're totally self sufficient. They could just say fu to
everybody if they wanted and just do their thing. You know,

(02:43:01):
I don't know, I don't I don't get it.

Speaker 12 (02:43:03):
Or I guess I worried about being Epstein to or
Bill coopered. So there's always it might not always be
about money.

Speaker 1 (02:43:11):
Yeah Epstein, Bill Cooper or Chris Cuomo kidding, but yeah,
a couple couple comments we're going in here. This is
I like this, this is class. South African president is
the statesman. Trump is just an apprentice. Yeah you could
say that, and uh, yeah, there we go. This is good.

(02:43:33):
The footage, oh, this is in the meeting with Ramaposa
that we imagined. The footage of Elon looking at Oh no,
this was in the White House. This person saying looking
at the South African President, Elon was giving him the eye.
He tried to intimidate him. But did you guys see
Elon giving him the It was like looking down and
like kind of almost like a few kind of thing,

(02:43:55):
get my I'm gonna get my starlink in there, you
know kind of thing. I mean, it's this guy is
such a clown. I mean, if you had that much
money in clout as Musk, you didn't you wouldn't have
to be clownish. You could just be like, just just
hold it together, you know what I mean, Like keep
keep the clowning to a minimum. Maybe hire someone is

(02:44:17):
your clown check you know, I don't know just I mean,
I have have your Harvey Pasternik, like checking your clownish behavior,
like someone like your assistant. And he's all over the place.
This guy, I mean, he's I don't think. I don't
trust that he's going to pull off the Mars thing
anymore because he can't even get X to work. Have

(02:44:41):
you guys had problems on X this week? Yeah, it's
been a mess. It's it's more than a mess. It's uh,
it still hasn't fixed itself.

Speaker 10 (02:44:50):
We trust him with the brain chips. That's going to
be fun.

Speaker 1 (02:44:53):
Oh yeah, yeah. You can't even get a app to work,
and you want to put it a chip in our
brain and get us like a little rat in amaze. No,
thank you. This is a bad this is I'm gonna
I'm gonna play this up. Actually, this is These are
good talking points. We're gonna run with these for the

(02:45:13):
next week or so. How can we trust Elon to
stick a damn chip in your brain. If he can't
even run X. Maybe his five year old son's doing
the coding. I would not be surprised, knowing Elon, he's saying,
this is easy, I'll get my four year old to
do it kind of thing. Oh it would be really cool,

(02:45:39):
right Elon, I said, I don't know. I wouldn't put
it past him. You think I'm joking, you guys, don't
you No, I'm dead serious.

Speaker 2 (02:45:47):
What could go wrong? I mean, just hand hand it
to the child, hand it to you know, big balls
or whoever you know. Just I mean, where are we?

Speaker 11 (02:45:57):
I mean, and I gotta say this whole thing that's
happened in the White House this week, you know, I
was really kind of, you know, holding a little bit
of light and a little bit of hope that like
diplomatic talks were happening in certain places, you know, whereas
under Biden there just pretty much was no diplomatic speaking
at all. But like, if this is you, you had

(02:46:19):
a foreign leader travel across the ocean to come here
and do this, when you could have just rang him
up and said, hey, my people are telling me. I'm
not I don't know what's going on over there. But
the news articles I'm seeing and the people that are
telling me there's a genocide happening.

Speaker 2 (02:46:34):
Is this true?

Speaker 11 (02:46:35):
What information can you send me, you know, or have
an ambassador do that and bring it back. I mean,
somewhere in the information loop something that had to have
just gone completely wrong, and he did nothing like this
was not you know who who brought him this as
definitive information. If this is a oopsie by him, you know,

(02:46:56):
if this is not just a planned operation, clearly it's
someone's planned operation. Some reality TV politician producer came up
with this one. And yeah, maybe maybe they pulled the
wool over his eyes or something. But where was the
phone call from him or someone that he trusts over
there to verify that information before doing this this ridiculous stunt.

Speaker 1 (02:47:18):
No need to do that. You don't need to verify anything.
This is our world and we create reality breaking news.
Jolani Hts invading Lebanon. Someone might check see what's actually
going on there. And we've got a couple more and
we're going to wrap this up, you guys, because this
is just this is going to go nuclear if we
carry on at this pace. It's already radioactive at the moment.

(02:47:43):
There's a lot of banter in the comment sections, and
a lot of people attacking Viva Fry. I'm not going
to put any of those comments up because that just
wouldn't be good cricket. But yeah, so I'll bring up
a couple of choice items so you guys can enjoy
some of these. And bottom line is this actually here

(02:48:04):
we go. Musk is a gets government grants, subsidies, government
contracts worth billions, who hires some capable engineers who produce flashy,
yet underperforming products. You could say that's the case in
some ways. Again, none of this is inspiring confidence of

(02:48:24):
building Miami on Mars by twenty thirty five. Wouldn't that
be cool? Remember at the inauguration rally, that's just so cringe.
We're gonna look back at that and it's gonna be
very interesting. I mean, he really, you know, he really
sort of pushed the boat out there, guys on that again.

Speaker 10 (02:48:44):
But the neural sent the car into space or was
that the other fool besis.

Speaker 1 (02:48:48):
That was Musk. Yeah, he put a Tesla in orbit
along with not as if we don't have enough high
velocity junk in Earth orbit the damage that could do
as well. Allegedly if I have the Russians, I would
send a missile or something and deal with that, but
get it out of the way. But yeah, so yeah,

(02:49:09):
oh bit, this is a w at w D forty
what a name? Raspberry fucked? I got canceled and don't
want back in. Don't trust him. He's talking about they're
talking about X. They're talking about that. Who What was
that Walk of Fame story? Was that you ruckus that
was talking or was that hash? Sure?

Speaker 6 (02:49:29):
That was me?

Speaker 1 (02:49:31):
I mean, what did and so they did a thing
around Diddy's star on the walk. I'm surprised they didn't
do a kind of ritual get out baby oil and
just just dump a whole load of baby oil all
over that star. Get it all shined up nice, you know,
because you know with people walking over that it gets
a little scruffy. Needs to be captain the Diddy trial.

(02:49:52):
Have you guys been following the Didty trial.

Speaker 2 (02:49:54):
A little bit?

Speaker 1 (02:49:55):
Is it interesting? Is anything?

Speaker 11 (02:49:57):
It's totally insane. It's just it feels like Epstein Part two.
I mean, why did why did? Why was I I
don't want to say I had to, No one forced
me to, but I couldn't turn away from it. Why
did why did I get presented the entire Johnny Depp trial?
But uh, I can't see the Diddy trial. I'm getting,
you know, uh drawing, We're getting the little drawings and

(02:50:19):
stories and uh, you know, court document releases and that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:50:23):
But no, it's uh, it's crazy.

Speaker 11 (02:50:26):
It's uh it's almost hard to tell who's who's doing
parody and and who's actually reading from the court documents.
It's that insane, you know, just you know, uh tales
of sex slaves and and superstars and politicians, you know,
uh doing crazy stuff and uh people are making a
meal out of it right now.

Speaker 2 (02:50:46):
It's it's bananas. It's totally bananas.

Speaker 11 (02:50:49):
And he's he's really he's only being charged with like
three things, you know, uh, sex trafficking, uh, sex trafficking
across uh state line, and one other thing. And it
just it's kind of like, oh, this feels a lot
like in Epstein's sort of trial, like everything's behind closed doors.

(02:51:10):
We're getting a bunch of salacious media about it. There's
no discussion about things other than sex. There's no discussions
about money, you know, And I think that that's one
of the biggest holes in the Epstein story and in
the ditty story is you know, no one's looking at
the money exchanges, no one's looking at you know, and

(02:51:32):
all the crimes are you know, the personal crimes like
against Cassie Ventur and stuff are outside of the Statute
of Limitations, so there's no like direct crimes basically, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:51:45):
But it's just insane.

Speaker 11 (02:51:47):
Pat and I'm not surprised that's happening. But at the
same time, I kind of can't believe it. It feels
like we're we're we've approached some sort of nexus point
here where it's like all the old conspiracy theories are
being sort of laundered by the mainstream media, sort of
washed and brought into social media for everybody to buzz

(02:52:07):
and be obsessed about, and the final narratives are all set.
We just saw Cash Patel and Bongino set the final
narrative for Epstein. Ope changed my mind. Everybody saw the
documents definitely killed himself. And they'll make these crazy faces
while they're like they're just eating glass while they're trying
to say it because they know it's not true.

Speaker 2 (02:52:28):
You can see it.

Speaker 11 (02:52:29):
I've watched like psychologists analyze the face that both of
those YouTube videos that are growing viral right now. These
two guys and the facial reactions that they make while
they're saying it, and it seems like they're lying straight up.

Speaker 2 (02:52:40):
Seems like they're lying.

Speaker 11 (02:52:42):
And they've got Netflix like doing the sort of like
documentaries on all these things as they come out. They've
got Hulu doing documentaries on these things as they come out,
and they just focus on the tabloid issues of it,
and there's no exploration or questioning or analysis about how
these relationships all got started. What does sug Knight mean

(02:53:02):
when he says that Diddy has been a federal informant
for since the nineties?

Speaker 2 (02:53:06):
Is that true?

Speaker 11 (02:53:07):
Could somebody look into this, like is that not part
of the court case? Is it all gonna be about,
you know, two thousand bottles of lube a goat and
you know your favorite politicians taking ecstasy and doing cocaine
like it's it's all sex and drugs, solation and and
I think there's just so much more evidence. Same with Epstein.
They only did they only rated two of his like

(02:53:28):
four or five houses. They did no looking into any
of the JP Morgan, the Wexner, uh Lets Wexner connections.

Speaker 2 (02:53:36):
Like all that stuff. I mean, and dudes are wearing
it on their shirt.

Speaker 11 (02:53:40):
You saw I and Carol on Canvas this week with
a Epstein map T shirt like he had all the
names and connections and all this stuff and.

Speaker 1 (02:53:47):
Ran ran DAWs Right, Dawson, you can do a duve
quilt for your bed with them. Not that you fall
asleep with that, I mean, that'd be a good conversation
piece with you, know, your your whatever, your partner, I
mean weird. But Ryan's got some great merchandise up at
his website neocon think it's neocon Report anc or anti

(02:54:13):
neeocon dot com. I think some good Uh there's an
umbrella that I quite like on there actually that I'm
thinking of buying a few from my gifts for Christmas.
Well done, Ryan, We might promote your merch But this
is interesting. Howard Lutnick lived next door to Epstein. I've
not heard that before. That's Trump's handler, basically, Howard Lutnick

(02:54:34):
Commerce secretary. That is literally Trump's handler. He goes everywhere
with Trump. So make sure that Donald says and does
the right things.

Speaker 7 (02:54:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:54:44):
Yeah, final thoughts you guys, Basil.

Speaker 10 (02:54:47):
But did Lutnik attended didty party. I'm just curious.

Speaker 1 (02:54:51):
I don't know, or did he bankroll the ditty party?
We don't know, we don't know. But he was a
living next door to Epstein. Just coincidence though, and Trump
was They're all they all knew Jeff, didn't he? But
we didn't unfortunately know Jeff, but everyone at that level
did and did he. So there you are, Basil your

(02:55:14):
final thoughts, Well, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:55:15):
One of the extent of which Epstein and his ILK
continue to exert influence from beyond the grave, because you know,
to go back to what Alan Mizrahi was saying, it's
not a difficult moral conundrum what's going on in the
world at the moment, particularly stark when you have homicidal

(02:55:38):
freaks like Randy Fine going on television and suggesting, after
the two murders of the Continent staff in Washington, the
Israeli consonant stuff that girls have been nuked, and he said,
you know, we had to drop a couple of bombs

(02:55:58):
on here are its Hiroshima and Nasaki to end that war.
That's what we need to do again effectively. I mean
it's really, I mean one of hopes that when you've
got people as deranged as that. I mean, it's very
disturbing that he's a member of Congress. But when you've
got people as deranged as that speaking on national television,

(02:56:20):
that ordinary Americans, the you know, the Mark Twain readers,
the Ralph Waldo Emerson readers, will think this is insane,
this is well, this is this is on madness now,
quite apart from the fact of because if you've dropped
nukes on guards that would wipe out most of Tel

(02:56:43):
Aviv as well, it's not very far away. So I mean,
this is really bizarre. But we've got to keep up
the pressure on Western government. We've got to keep the
pressure up on the UK government. We've got to be
everybody needs to turn themselves into a one man, one

(02:57:06):
woman awkward squad. You know that we will not tolerate
the extermination of you know, an entire population just because
our politicians have been browbeaten, blackmailed and bribed into submission.
So it does bring into focus the crisis of legitimacy

(02:57:30):
in the political class in Britain. As I say, Kemmy
Baidenock saying on national television today that Israeli is fighting
a proxy war, He's fighting a proxy war, basically a
proxy extermination. It's not a war. Let's not let's not
give it that term. Really really really bizarro stuff going

(02:57:52):
on at the moment, and if Israel get their attack
on Iran, it's only going to get worse.

Speaker 1 (02:57:59):
She reminds me of a student body president, Kimmy Badenock,
like a student student president or something.

Speaker 5 (02:58:06):
She's just doesn't he Well, the nights are out because
the Tories are absolutely tanking. They're down to fourth in
the polls. They could have as few as twenty or
thirty seats off the next election. There's certainly the myth
of the invincibility of the Conservative Party, the most successful
political organization in the Western world over the last two

(02:58:28):
hundred years, that's been well and truly exploded. It no
longer holds the you know, public imagination. You know, Deference
doesn't have a you know, in anything like the way
it did even twenty years ago or twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:58:44):
Maybe they'll bring back Rory Stewart as as leader. Now
his podcast is doing so well.

Speaker 5 (02:58:51):
They want they want Boris Johnson back.

Speaker 1 (02:58:55):
Oh gosh, yeah, bring him back, bring him back, Please
do us a favor. I can't wait Basil Thepulse dot
Today tell us where they can.

Speaker 5 (02:59:05):
Find tomorrow at nine as a guest of Mike Ryan.
That may well be my only appearance next week because
I've got a busy week, but I'll be on at
n am UK time with Mike Ryan tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (02:59:21):
Thank you and big thank you to you Basil for
joining us this week. Basil Valentine, Ladies and gentlemen, political commentator,
political editor at Thepulse dot Today. You can find his
archive there as well. Dabby J, this is for Hesher
and Rock is to give you a nice smooth exit.
The moon is easier than marching off to Mars. I

(02:59:43):
love that comment for some reason. I sort of love
that comment. Thank you, dabby Ja. That is like top
We're gonna We're gonna roll out with that one. You
guys give us your final exit and what you're doing
this week, go ahead, pressure.

Speaker 11 (02:59:58):
You can find us in the boiler room on Thursday nights.
You can find us on the web at Alternate Current
Radio dot com. Find me on x at hasher media
Instagram as well. And thanks for having me Patrick. This
has been a intense show. I really enjoyed the interview.

(03:00:19):
In the first segment, even though it was sort of
a lot to enjoy absorb, and I think that he
really spoke to what a lot of people have been feeling,
you know, especially those of us that have been eyes
open since the beginning here and are really feeling the
fatigue of where we're at. So much appreciation for that

(03:00:44):
and for having me today. I hope everybody has a
great rest of the weekend. Stay safe and sane out there.
It's Memorial Day weekend, so tensions are high, roads are busy,
all that stuff. So careful out there, everybody, and enjoy
the rest of your weekend, and thank you for being here.
Love seeing everybody's comments in the chats, and look forward
to doing it again.

Speaker 1 (03:01:05):
Yeah, no, likewise, likewise, thank you very much. Sure, Rucas,
Where can we find you this week? Thanks for coming
this week as well.

Speaker 12 (03:01:14):
There's a website called Alternatecurrentradio dot com. Maybe you've heard
of it, but yeah, that's very fun my stuff. Also,
of course we've been bashing on X, but while it's
working occasionally once or twice during the week, you can't
always find me over on my X where I do
keep everybody up to date. And of course I've been
doing since I haven't been doing my regular show, I'm

(03:01:35):
doing the Roundabout Ruckus temporarily, where you know, anytime I
make an appearance on another program. I was just recently
on Weaponized News again, so you'll find a new post
for that up at Alternatecurrent Radio dot com, as well
as another appearance I had not that long ago on
the Third Rail with nature Boy.

Speaker 10 (03:01:53):
So that's what's going on with me.

Speaker 12 (03:01:55):
Of course, you'll find me on the boiler Room Thursday
nights with Hesher and the Gang, and then whenever I'm
invited and able to join you here on Sunday Wire.
And don't forget, folks, that Patrick is doing his midweek Wire.
It's an excellent program during the week. And in case
you miss it and you're going around crazy, you can't
find it. You can't even find it on twenty one Wire.
Go to Altonntcurrent Radio dot com. You'll find a copy
of it there, just like we do a Sunday Wire

(03:02:16):
and everything else. Make it nice and easy for you guys. Okay,
thanks for having me, and may God bless each and
every one of you, and God save this republic.

Speaker 1 (03:02:24):
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So thank you for a great another great overdrive and
again thank you everybody on the streams appreciate it. I
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Alan ms Rahi and what a great unique voice and

(03:02:46):
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of humanity. It's got a lot to offer. Do follow
the Mazahi Perspective. That's his YouTube channel. You can see
his videos there, follow him on x His tweets are
excellent too, you right, lengthy and very poignant tweets commenting
on what's going on, especially with regards to Israel and

(03:03:07):
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