SUNDAY WIRE EP 553 – ‘Fascist Defense of Genocide’ with Patrick Henningsen and guests - Sunday Wire with Patrick Henningsen

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this week's edition of
The Sunday Wire. I'm Patrick Henningsen. Your hosts were streaming
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(00:44):
the show. We'll upload that later afterwards. But welcome to
everybody on the live stream. Thank you for joining us.
Some interesting things developing this week. We'll try to share
as much as we can with you, and then after
the first break in Overdrive will be joined by our
team members from the ALTI, the current radio network to
go through some of the main stories in the headlines.

(01:04):
There are many things that are happening in the world
right now. We're going to be sharing as much as
we can with you, obviously if you're tuning in from
the UK. The Palestine action story is massive and has
huge implications, especially for activists and just anybody who's been
talking about this issue and been protesting against the genocide

(01:28):
in Gaza over the last couple of years. At least,
this is going to have a chilling effect one might
expect on protests, but maybe not. The reaction to this
has been pretty incredible so far. We'll cover that story
in a few minutes, and again I'm your host, Patrick Kenningson.
Thank you for joining us, and hello to everybody on

(01:50):
X as well. We'll streaming out live on our main
X channels as well on that platform, so thank you
for joining us as well. This is episode five and
fifty three of this weekly omnibus news and analysis radio program.
If you're new to The Sunday Wire, we do a
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also be doing a little bit of multimedia analysis as well.

(02:35):
We have some video clips, some news clips as well
that will be bringing you on to the screen. Now,
as far as new platforms go, some of you will
have noticed I've started a new presence on a platform
called Substack, so we'll bring that up on screen here,
that's my substack page. Patrick Kenningson. You can just go

(02:57):
to substack and you'll find it there. Patrick Henningson dot
substack dot com. And yeah, we just started this a
couple of weeks ago, and it's kind of, you know,
gradually getting that channel together. And so it's a different
type of content than what I put on twenty first
CenTra Wire, what we're publishing there with our great team
at twenty one Wire. Obviously this is different. It's a

(03:18):
little more personal to myself, so you'll see a slightly
different side, a little more of a writer's platform Substack.
So this is a new piece that I wrote just
yesterday called Why I Write, So you get a little
bit of a insight into my background, a little bit
more about what I'm about, what my motivations are. And yeah,

(03:40):
we'll see how that develops. It'll be an interesting platform
as it gets together. So Substack a lot of great
content creators there. Obviously you have to be on every platform,
but what I chose to do is do something a
little different on that platform. So it will be very
different content than what we're putting out every day at
twenty first Centurywire dot com we do some great reports

(04:01):
and a big thanks to Freddie Ponton in our Global
Affairs department. He's doing an amazing job, as everybody on
our team. So there'll be a number of new stories
at twenty first Century Wire which will be out on Monday,
So do keep your eyes peeled on our main website
on Monday. Now we'll bring you on this Palestine action

(04:24):
story because we'll bring this on in a few minutes
because it's just incredible. But in America, in America, this man,
this man, I don't know what to say about this man.
There's a few things happening with the Donald. Yeah, Gulf
of America. Yeah, another Trump development. So the fourth of

(04:46):
July American Independence Day celebrated over the weekend, so it's
a bank holiday of sorts in America. And this is
about the best picture I could find of Trump. He's
looking a little bit worse for where there might have
been some photoshop action going on in this one. But
the country has never been in a more precarious position.

(05:08):
And as it's fourth of July, I would have liked
to see a different type of independence declaration. In fact,
why not a declaration of independence from the state of
Israel and from the Israeli lobby. I mean, I think
it's high time. So for this special, special anniversary of

(05:30):
American Independence, why don't Americans get together, Republicans and Democrats
and declare independence from the Israeli lobby. Let's face it,
they've got the US Congress by the neck, and they've
got this president by you know what. It's just unbelievable
what America, what the United States is having to do

(05:54):
on behalf of this little European colonial settler project, this
genocidal colonial settler project known as Israel. And I'm putting
it nicely, as nice as I possibly can, because I
could say a lot worse. And I hope you're not
going to be offended. I'm not going to go there.

(06:16):
I'm being polite about it. But I think it's hard
to argue that this is not that this is not
the most controlled US government in the history of the country,
controlled by a foreign entity, a foreign lobby to be specific,
a foreign lobby that doesn't have to register as a

(06:39):
foreign agent. They get special privileges. So they just dragged
the United States into an unprovoked war against Iran on
another fake WMD gambit, another fake nuclear Oh, nuclear weapons,
Saddam Mussin's got nucletar weapons, you member, George W. Bush,

(07:00):
the smoking gun could turn into a mushroom cloud. Remember that.
I'm old enough to remember that. We were out in
the streets protesting that saying, don't go to war against Iraq,
don't fight a war for Israel, for bb netan Yahoo.
But they did it anyway, and here we are twenty
odd years later, twenty two years later, repeat against Iran,

(07:23):
and Israel demanded the US and this president here, this guy,
this guy, this guy, this guy. They demanded this guy
come in and bail them out because they were getting
hammered by the Iranians. Israel started a war. They thought
it was going to be done and dust did. They

(07:43):
thought that people would rise up and overthrow the I
to Olda. It didn't happen. Instead, Iran launched True Promise
Iree and Tel Aviv is now being gentrified in a nutshell.
That's kind of like what happened over a couple of weeks,
weeks what they call the Twelve Days War. That war
is not over, by the way, Israel's in the United

(08:05):
States are planning follow up attacks. Now, this was just
a pause. Trust me, it's just a pause. This is
going to be a long war. Now we have Azerbaijean
in the mix as well. Israel and the United States
are using Azerbaijean. It appears anyway as a type of
a staging ground, as a type of a cudgel to

(08:25):
poke both Russia and Iran. This is not going to
end well for Azerbaijean. I can tell you right now.
They really need to tread carefully because they're playing with fire.
They're playing with geopolitical fire, and world War one could
or sorry, world War three, world War three could kick
off in that part of the world. We've discussed that

(08:46):
just on Wednesday with the Midweek Wire Wednesday and Thursday
with Arnold Devlet and Freddie ponton great discussion. So that's
what's happening with So the Donald a little bit of
a break. He passed a bit beautiful bill, or I
guess it's not quite there yet, but it seems to
be on the way. The big beautiful bill, the big

(09:07):
two to three trillion dollar overspend, so that thirty six
trillion dollar US debts going up, it'll hit forty trillion
before Donald Trump's out of office. So so much for Doge.
Remember that, remember Doge, Doge. Oh, we're gonna bring We're
gonna we're gonna rain in spending. Here's my buddy, Elon Musk.

(09:29):
Elon's up to UH has got a new project on
the go, a new political party. We'll talk about that
in Overdrive. I don't think that's gonna go anywhere. I
have my own opinions about what it actually is. UH,
but we'll leave that for the moment. In terms of
the UH, the Iranian back to the Iranian gambit, we'll

(09:49):
bring this up on screen as well. Seymour Hirsch sub stack.
The US attack on Iran may not have wiped out
it's nuclear ambition, no kidding. Was it an obliteration, well,
Trump likes to say it's total obliteration of the Iranian
nucletar program. Was it? Was it? Really? I don't know?

(10:11):
This is that key? Here's a key passage in this
first article. Year. More important, he said, was that there
was no post strike, hence detective of radioactivity, more evidence
that the four hundred and fifty pounds of enriched uranium
had been moved from the four Dough nucletar site to
reprocessing in is Fahan prior to the US attack, code

(10:39):
named Midnight Hammer by the United States. They've always got
these funny names for these operations, Operation Midnight Hammer. I
think Pete Hegseth probably thought that one up. So Iran
moved the enriched uranium centrifuge activity, not severely damaged. They

(11:00):
probably removed quite a lot of that, so not totally obliterated.
Donald not totally obliterated. And I'll bet you, I'll bet
you Pete Hegseth got a new tattoo. What do you
think you probably got Midnight Hammer right across his bicep
above the Infidel tattoo. That's our defense secretary, totally adorned

(11:24):
in tattoos, totally ad You should be a motorcycle mechanic.
But somehow he got promoted from Fox and Friends Weekend host,
not even an anchor, not even an anchor, not a
co anchor, a weekender from Fox Weekend to the head

(11:45):
of the Pentagon. That is a hell of a career
path never been done before. Is a reason why it's
never been done before because you don't want incompetent people
running it doing important jobs when they've been promoted to
their level of incompitans i e. Pe tag seth. So
that's one for the books there, we'll talk about Palestine Action.

(12:10):
We'll bring this up on screen here. So High Court
ruling in the UK. This was just on Friday. Actually,
this was going on while we were reporting live on
the UK column. Even we piped in Wheelsie from Resistance
GB live in front of the Royal Courts of Justice
and they deliberated until midnight. I think there's an appeal.

(12:32):
It's been lodged by the legal team for Palestine Action.
So the UK government has labeled them a terrorist group.
How about that? Pretty incredible stuff. A terrorist group? So
this is a grassroots this is a grassroots activist organization. Okay.

(12:55):
They haven't committed any terrorists of acts like in terms
of what one might equate to quote terrorism i e.
The use of violence like you know, bombs and things like. No,
they haven't done any of that. What they are guilty of.
What the government is accusing them of is criminal damage,

(13:19):
criminal damage against the military industrial complex and somehow this
is threatening British national security. That's the argument the government's making.
Is it a valid argument? That's a stretch. That's a stretch.
A lot of people say no, Well the government says yes,

(13:40):
well they would do. This is why they went for
this major move. So this is an incredible situation, unbelievable.
I mean, it's hard to walk this back if you're
the state because if you think about it, all of
these green organizations, these climate organizations, the things they've done,

(14:02):
super gluing themselves to you know, trains, just stop oil,
a lot of criminal damage. Okay, so same type of thing,
criminal damage, but one is now a terrorist group. And
in the UK, if you're shown to support Palestine Action
now that they've been quote proscribed as a terrorist grouped

(14:25):
or go anybody who shows support, who has on their
Twitter bio whatever, I support Palestine Action. Anybody says anything
like that, then you're guilty of a terrorism offense. I mean,
talk about a slippery slope. I think this is like
a little bit over the top. I think there's a
lot over the top. They've gone completely overboard on this.

(14:46):
Why is the government doing this? A grassroots organization, direct action,
civil disobedience, The Suffragettes, the women who campaigned for their
to vote the beginning of the twentieth century. The famous
Suffragettes in Britain late late nineteenth century, early twentieth century.

(15:10):
They used bombs. They were never proscribed as a terrorist organization,
but they you know, they planted bombs and things like that.
So why are they doing this? Is this at the
behest to the Israeli lobby. I think that's probably the answer.
The Israel lobby is powerful conservative friends of Israel, labor

(15:33):
friends of Israel. The entire government, much like in the
United States, is more or less captured and quite scared
to go against this lobby. And check it out. Look
at this retired priest eighty three years old among Palestine
Action protesters arrested. So I'm gonna I've got a clip

(15:54):
from Sky News here and we'll play this. And so,
I mean with eighty three year old retired priest arrested
under the Terrorism Act for holding up a little eight
I think a eight and a half by eleven sheet
of paper that said Palace I support Palestine Action or

(16:15):
something like that, I mean, what are we doing here?
What are we doing when you have this type of
thing happening? Afterwards, you know it was a bad ruling
by the government, because this is just ridiculous, totally ridiculous.
Here's Sky News. And look at how the media is
just like reporting this like it's just some kind of

(16:38):
you know, normal pedestrian development, and the media have no
opinion on it at all. You notice they're just like
totally hands off, even though this affects potentially their job.
Journalists could be harangued by the state for being perceived
to show support for what was yesterday an activist group

(17:04):
and today a terrorist group. According to the UK Judiciary,
here's here's Sky News. I mean, take a look at this.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Why were so many people arrested in Parliament's Square?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
The pain thought this shad been rescribed are the words
ken A children.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Essentially, it's because they were showing support for what the
government has deemed is now an illegal and terrorist organization,
that's Palestine Action Now. The Home Secretary took that move
after two members allegedly broke into Arif Brise Norton last month,
spraying Air Force jests with red paint, causing seven million
pounds worth of damage. Now, showing support for an outlaw

(17:46):
group can be holding up a banner and support or
indeed holding up a logo, and that's what we saw
in Parliament Square. So the police moved in and made
those arrests now. Lawyers for the group had been before
the High Court and the Court of Appeal arguing that
they needed a pause before this band came into effect,

(18:08):
but so far judges have sided with the government.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, pause would have been good, That would have been
the smart thing to do. I have a little you know,
if you're going to go full fascist on this, at
least give it, you know, wait till Monday so people
can like fold up their banners. But no, it came
into effect midnight and the arrests begin. And we'll go
over the pensioners first, the retired priests, pensioners and other

(18:36):
piece nicks. Let's arrest them under terrors and charges first.
How ridiculous. This is beyond ridiculous. But anyway, we saw
it coming. That's why we reported on this at twenty
first Century Wire during the week. If you follow our website,
you probably would have seen this story here revealed how

(18:56):
Israel lobby got kurest Army two banded Palestine action. That
was before the final ruling there. And yeah, the lobby
leaned hard on the government and the government capitulated. It's
as simple as that, and it didn't stop there by

(19:16):
the way, just so you know, this is the Evette Cooper,
she's the Home Secretary. All of these members of Parliament
were under some sort of direct pressure or indirect pressure
from these various Israeli lobby groups. Okay, here's but here's
the language which you need to pay close attention to.

(19:40):
We talked about this on Friday with Mike Robinson at
the UK column News and this is the Home Secretary.
This disgraceful attack on Brize Norton where they spray painted
paints planes with red paint Air Force Base or if
Brize Norton in the early hours of the morning of Friday,
June the twentieth is the latest in a long history

(20:01):
of quote unacceptable criminal damage committed by Palestine action. So
even the words of the Home Secretary say, she's not
saying terrorist attack, she's saying criminal damage. Criminal damage is
not terrorism according to the law. So again it's even

(20:22):
in their own words. And this is also a very
key piece here, and she says the UK's defense enterprise
is vital to the nation's national security and this government
will not tolerate those that put that security at risk.
So if you explain to me, how is it's national

(20:46):
security defense enterprise. Look at the word enterprise. They're talking
about business. They're talking about defense contractors, many of whom
are publicly traded on the stock market. So what are
we really talking about here. We're talking about the military

(21:07):
industrial conflict. So this action by the government is really
to defend the industry, the defense industry that's been disrupted.
So these people, these activists, are trying to stop an
ongoing genocide. Understand this that's happening in Gaza. They're trying

(21:27):
to stop these Israeli defense contractors from sending arms from
the UK to Israel, and israel Is, according to the
International Courts of Justice and the icc are engaged in
an ongoing genocide. This is beyond debate at this point.
And the UK is also is not only a signatory

(21:51):
to the Arms Control Act, meaning they can't supply weapons
to any country that's involved in human rights abuses, and
what Israel's doing in Gaza is way beyond human rights abuse. Again,
the ICJ says it's genocide. So the UK government is
an obligation to stop stop supplying weapons to sanction Israel.

(22:16):
They have that obligation under international law. International humanitarian law
which they've signed up to. They've ratified these treaties. The
other one is the Genocide Convention. That is, every government,
every person in this country or in any European country
who's signed to the Genocide Convention is duty bound. They're

(22:40):
obligated to do whatever they can to stop a genocide
from happening or from continuing. It's worse now that you
know it's happening. So now if you do stop it
from continuing, you even have to act if you think
it's going to happen, you have that right. So where's

(23:04):
the UK government has just shirked its duties on all
these important international agreements that form the post World War
two international order. How why? Why? Why? So the government's
willing to destroy the international legal framework for Israel so

(23:29):
that Israel can continue a genocide. But what do you
do when a government is trying to implement fascist, anti democratic,
anti free speech, huge, huge state overreach to shut down
anybody trying to save lives. We're getting into very very

(23:54):
dangerous territory here as a country, as a civilization, argue,
this is putting the entire international system at risk in
much the same way that it was put at risk
after World War One in much the same way that
brought down the League of Nations. I think we can

(24:17):
make that argument. We can absolutely make that argument. Now,
that's kind of what's happening. Back to the news UK
High Court hold back evidence whilst upholding F thirty five
controversial exports to Israel. What happened here, Well, this is

(24:37):
what happened. The UK ignored its own spy footage when
assessing Israel's compliance with international law. Britain has all the
evidence because they've been assisting Israel in reconnaissance as they've
been pulverizing Gaza, and they withheld that from this case. Unbelievable.

(25:01):
Key documents also withold from court on Israel's targeting of
minors sniping kids. Now that was witholt from the hearing. Okay,
Foreign Office paid seven hundred and fifteen thousan pounds for it.
Quote independent analysis on Gaza. It's all open source. What
do you need, Go to the UN Human Rights Council.

(25:24):
They've got plenty of information and analysis. The firm contracted
by the Foreign Office founded by former Embassy official and
Tel Aviv. Well, that's convenient and this is just the
tip of the Iceberg. You know, we're not showing you
anything anything here that's secret. It's all public. But somehow

(25:47):
it doesn't factor into the legal calculations when the government's
trying to decide what to do with this activist group,
Palestine Action, which are now, according to the government, a
terrorist organization and all of their members are now orgo terrorists.

(26:09):
So the people trying to save lives, trying to stop children, women, men,
innocent people from being bombed in their refugee tents from
being shot, whether trying to cueue for food in a
concentration camp erected by the Americans and the Israelis under

(26:35):
a fake NGO under investigation for fraud called the Gaza
Humanitarian Foundation. You can't be more on the wrong side
of this issue than you are by attacking the people
that are trying to stop this international crime against humanity.

(26:58):
I mean, it's really difficult to jumped the shark any
more than this. This is just another this is next level. Anyway,
we'll talk about this in the overdrive. I'm sure we're
gonna have this discussion. We've got a few more items
to share on that. I want to hear what our
teammates have to say, we'll be joined by Hesher Ruckus,

(27:20):
hopefully Basil Valentine as well. Certainly Basil will have something
to say about it. We'll do that in a few
minutes after the break. Look in the meantime, there's a
new track out by a very powerful performance poet from
South London's name's beating Man. You may may not have

(27:41):
followed his work over the years, but he's pretty powerful.
He's got a new track out called Viva Viva Falestina
and this is literally fresh off the press. We literally
just got it, like earlier today or late late last night.
It's just been released. We've got a link to his
YouTube channel. We're waiting for a download link. And I

(28:05):
think he's kind of doing this at least in aid
of the Medical Aid for Palestine, those sort of charitable causes,
but it's really more than that. This is just to
raise awareness. So among many artists, including the ones we
saw at Glastonbury, Bob Vilan Kneecapp and all these other artists,
there's a bunch of others I tweeted out a few

(28:27):
more that have joined this cause. So it's great to
see the artist community step up on this. And we'll
play that track right now. Anyway, stay with us. This
is the Sunday Wire. I'm Patrick Kenningson, your host. Thank
you for joining us on the live streams. We'll be
back in a few minutes. In the meantime, here is

(28:49):
bad man the poet Viva Viva Falstina.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
If hope was a race, then it's finished. And if
death has a smell, you can smell it where limited
freedom is diminished. And if evil has a touch, you
have felt it where there's no safe place to rest
your head. And the child's greats dreams for a loaf
of bread in the rubble, she uncontrolled of recries a
liveless child with lifeless eyes. Bombs relentlessly rained down from

(29:25):
the skies to claim more hopes, more dreams, more lives.
It tricks you into thinking that it doesn't exist, when
he does, and it rules with the iron fist. Kids
are taken up by sniper's let.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
To die where they fell.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
The devil is real.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
His name is is Ray Hell.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
I see you all shut in your eyes to unending
heinous crimes.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Are we slowly heading toward the.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
End of the times?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
To this essay?

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Viva Viva Fallesteina, Viva Viva Valleestine and Viva Viva Valleestine
A three three three three Palestines.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
M shabban Adalu, we remember your name? To talk to
an ivy and engulfing flame. I really don't know if
I'll ever be the same of the witnessing these images
and feeling his pain. I sit here in comfort and
the tears fall from my eyes, feeling totally hopeless. Watching

(30:31):
you get terrorized. It tricks you into thinking that doesn't exist.
What he does, and he rules with the eye on fist.
Kids are taken up by snipers, left to die where
they fell. The devil is real, He's is ray hell.
I see you are shutting your eyes to unending pinous crimes.

(30:54):
Are we slowly heading toward the end of times?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
To this asset?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Viv O Viva Palistine, v Our Viva Palistina, Viva Viva Balistinea.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Free, free, Free, free Palestine. You see, when ignorance screams,
intelligence stays silent. You can't reason with a flatin. They're
just resort to being violent and a symmetry of info.
The promotes the oppressor was a name. Palestine becomes a
victim of the sensor, The Palestine of people remain victim

(31:30):
for the occupier and the Zionist progressor just plays a
victim forever, forever, forever. He tricks you into thinking that
he doesn't exist when he does so, he rules with
an iron fist. Kids are taken out by snipers, let
to die when they fell.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
The devil is real. His name is Israe hell.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
I see your shut in your eye to unending heinous crimes.
Are we slowly heading towards the end of times?

Speaker 6 (32:08):
To this assay? Viva Viva Falestina, Viva Viva Falestina, Viva
Beaver Falestina.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Free, free, free, free Palestine. Wherever you find oppression, you'll
also find resistance. You label them as terrorists. I see
the fighting from existence. It tricked you into thinking that
it doesn't exist, where he does and rules with the

(32:40):
eye of fist. Kids are taken out by snipers at
the dim fel.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
The devil is real. His name is Israe hell.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I see you all shutting your eyes to unending heinous crimes.
Are were slowly heading toward the end of times.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
To this assay.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
Viva Viva Falestine, Viva Viva Valle Steine, and Viva Viva Valle.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Steine, Free, free, free, free Palestinis.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Mister speaker, I want to thank you for giving me
the profound honor of addressing this great citadel of democracy
for the fourth.

Speaker 7 (33:31):
Time, and thanks to Mom back guys, Mama time to
help him at pend it on our van. That's the crime.
Let me spin you what tail talk to you minutes bedtime.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Our world is an uppeval We bring up quotes at
let's a quotes and spell labels, tiny paid We wheeled them.

Speaker 8 (33:58):
Wealth ropers, canty semites, animals, all gonna sail.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Every option laid down.

Speaker 9 (34:03):
No detail is too frail.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
Let me share my plan.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
It's all about me survival, said cold friends.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
Just let me be Uncle Sam sans dollars, Bob Toms
headless lee who twisted lenses he pretends.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
To see clearly.

Speaker 8 (34:15):
I could quote the Bible, but that's just for show.
It's occupation versus civilization. As you know, accusations by confession.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
The truth's on a loaf.

Speaker 10 (34:22):
Decades of incarcerration gets your clap.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
For the show.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
We win, they lose. I can't praise any more.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
This noose is tude tight, just not as a blame
than the tent of the night were criminals in truth,
but that soft play, gentleman in the head, life ain't any.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
What Suddenly heaven turned into hell.

Speaker 8 (34:40):
We play the homes came the order to sw Bob schools.
Moscow tells the more to tell, not just that hospitals
fell as well. Thank you Adamson Sirs for funding this, help.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
Attract president artful support his room.

Speaker 8 (34:53):
We just say realis on colonial fle Joe, help me
clean the fence in the broad daylight, good man, he asked,
though his words sweat supported me even when his talk's
not right. They killed with rage, and the women kids
in the front of gods that say open their cage
live in o'bal tame or tests on the way they
four in the crime. So we ten batches of coverage
and just play un but got green Hurst. Them are

(35:14):
ranting a belt. I'll take you wanter, buy no toubt.
I can't my about Chetta side that's out. Humanity's priceless
funds are what it's about. They call it occupation. No
machine of hate, of racist dreams, nor the blood durst
the state causing death prevocated every gate.

Speaker 10 (35:30):
Get us stand here and.

Speaker 11 (35:31):
You still wait.

Speaker 8 (35:31):
And what I'm doing a stand up in disguise, playing
the victim. That's my but now the burning me.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
You ask for Chi skies, and I want to say
thank you America.

Speaker 12 (35:42):
I loved you wearing your Hamburgers.

Speaker 8 (35:44):
That's no blood. My sol just loved you as Pam
was just enough. No more October's. But we had our
stuff and we were the symbol of herophobics. Race down
the park side of.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
Racist any place, butter with melts in my mouth coat.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
Trade from north to south where if we embrace faith face.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
They call Israel.

Speaker 8 (36:03):
They called Israel the colonialism, theret grab the tie, take
a breathe that's the White House they're trying to leave.

Speaker 10 (36:09):
But they need more training to follow my creed.

Speaker 13 (36:13):
W WANTA is funding and promoting anti Israel's protests in America.

Speaker 12 (36:17):
They wanted to disrupt America.

Speaker 8 (36:18):
Think of I ran my aunts to weak my mouth
gost hour. It's by a new land of the found
with their white plains on tower.

Speaker 7 (36:26):
And there is me.

Speaker 8 (36:27):
But listen on my side to be in the enemies
where I can find But that's not in me, So prayers.
I need the tax dollars so my plans can proceed.
He ain't to make gods on Liverpool a No Bill prize.
Then find a new place to colonize. Take the world
back from the igfit of God. Make this reechon of
five star Cararadie.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Thank you. My lives have reached their demise.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Israel does not seek to resettle gods preach that demise.

Speaker 12 (36:55):
Thank my eyes.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Welcome back, Welcome back to the Sunday Wire. I'm Patrick Henningson,
your host. Thank you for rejoining us. That was a
pretty powerful track by beating Man. That's fresh fresh off
the press, right out of the studio this week. Great
great job by beat Ye Man. He's done some powerful
political tracks, always timed to kind of what's going on

(37:30):
in politics in the world, and he's he's delivered this.
I know he's been. He's put out a bunch of
other performance poet type pieces and other sort of tracks
in the last couple of years, but of all the
Palestinian themed ones, this this one is the most powerful
I've seen and so big thanks to Beaty Man for

(37:51):
you know, supplying that for us today for the show.
We just spoke to him just before the program and
what can I say. It's a powerful It's a powerful
performance and more power to the artists. More power to
the musicians. The more they try to shut these people down,
the more they try to censor them, like at Glastonbury,

(38:13):
the bigger they get. Bob Villain's tracks are like flying.
He's never he got dropped by his talent agency. All
these you know, controlled booking agents live nation. All these people,
they canceled their tours in America, just like Kneecap. And

(38:33):
by doing this, these bands, their grassroots following is just explode, exploding.
So it's backfiring, and that's the way it should be.
That's the way it should be. Backfiring on these establishment
monopolists trying to control the entire entertainment industry. Plenty to
talk about here. Let me bring our teammates up onto

(38:54):
the stage. Here, Hashsher, host of The Boy of the
Room Alternate Current Radio, thank you for joining us. And
also Rucus, host of the Daily Ruckus Right Weaponized News,
among other accolades, thank you for joining us, Rutgus. I
think Basio Valentine's going to join us as well on

(39:15):
the fly. He'll be with us shortly too. But how
you guys doing. I mean, did you guys catch that
beat Man track? We just rolled out during the breaks.
Pretty pretty powerful stuff.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Yeah, people in the chatter excited. It's been a while
since they've heard beating Man on the show, so that
was great.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah. Yeah, he's he's uh, he's a powerful performer and
like when he brings out his A game, it's it's
it's strong, it's very strong. I mean he went to
the paint for Jeremy Corbyn hard in the last election
before they kicked Corbyn out of the of politics, and
it was a really powerful track. I mean it's just

(39:56):
like if you were on the fence about voting for
that comment really being pulled. So he's a very politically
charged artist and he's really talented. But the words, the
awards resonate, the words resonate. Did you guys catch I mean,
I don't. We We didn't do a Sunday wire last
week because I was at a festival. That sounds beautiful,

(40:16):
but the whole Glastonbury thing kicked off last week and
they the BBC refused, refused to broadcast Kneecap. They gave
him the Jerry Adams Ira treatment, and then other artists
started stepping up, like Bob Villin and basically saying death

(40:37):
death to the idea if. I mean, they're horrified that
there were like twenty thousand people chanting this, and they
tried to spin it into his anti semitic and this
is not. No. He's talking about the military that's carrying
out war crimes, it's killing babies, and of course the
people are gonna chant with him because he's in the right.

(40:59):
But the more they tried to cancel and shut this
guy down, he's more popular than ever. I never heard
of him. I never heard of kneecap Is either, before
they started censoring them. Do these people never learn.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
I don't get it, man, I don't get it. It's
it's the uh, It's it's the Obi wan Kenobi conundrum,
you know.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
They try to strike him down and they just get stronger,
you know. Uh. I'd never heard of either of those
bands either.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Uh. You know.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
I woke up and the sport asked me to hear
about this stuff with Bob Villain, and I was like,
Bob Dylan, No, I did I know they made a
movie about him. And she's like, no Villain and I'm like, oh, oh,
that's the guy that was saying death death to the idef.

Speaker 7 (41:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
I saw that that was nuts.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, there's another band called uh Fontaines DC. Have you
heard of them? Yeah, I've heard them, the Fontains So
they they're they're on it too. They did a show,
a big show at Finsbury Park, uh in London. Let
me bring this up on screen. Actually you can take
a look. There's some video footage here from that festival.

(42:06):
Somebody posted on their social media here it is. So
they just basically incorporated this into their entire stage presence,
as you can see, Free Palestine. So like there's another one.
So yeah, I guess this censorship thing just kind of

(42:27):
has this way of backfiring. Oh look at this, even
the additional enhanced graphics there talking about.

Speaker 14 (42:34):
It's just some sort of strange new phenomenon, I mean,
or as has ever happened before in history. They should
name this phenomenon after something.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (42:42):
We'll just pick some washed up actress singer from the past,
like say Barbarus Streisand and maybe we can call it
the Streisand Effect.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, this is nothing you should coin that. You should
coin that Ruckus. That's brilliant, the Streisand Effect. Yeah, yeah,
I've never heard that.

Speaker 14 (42:59):
These people are stupid it's twenty twenty five, and I
assure you all people, places and things evolved understand clearly
how this works. Which leads me now with the giant
question mark quite a few of them, and scratching my
head over is this being allowed? Is this being created?
Is this being co opted? Or can we trust any
of these people? Who are these artists? Did anyone do
a deep dive that have they been vocalizing this consistently

(43:22):
from the beginning or the capitalizing on what is easily
observed to be a trending thing and it's a good
way for them to gain garner name recognition. As you
pointed out, nobody's heard of them. I'm not saying that
about these bands, but you have to ask these questions.
That's what a journalist would do. I don't want to
do anybody's.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Job that Well, look, let's let's just go back to
the beginning. Kneecap Okay, kneecap Irish West Belfast on the
Republican side of that of that wall, obviously, you know,
very left wing revolutionary and if you've ever been to

(44:00):
West Belfast or Dairy we broadcasted from there, it's pro
Palestine to the hill like you go there, the graffiti
on the walls, it's a guy in a wheelchairs with
with the slingshot at the Great March that Abbi Martin
made the film about. There's a big mural of that
guy firing a slingshot on his wheelchair at an IDF soldier.

(44:26):
And then you go over to the other side, the
Protestant Unionist side, and it's all Israeli graffiti, like pro
Israeli IDF graffiti in Ireland or Northern Ireland. So it's
a very divisive issue, and it's a long Republican, Irish
Republican and British loyalist lines. So you identify with Israel

(44:48):
from Northern Ireland and you're a Protestant British loyalist, and
you identify with Palestine if you're Irish Republican, ira Revolutionary type.
And so that's the Kneecaps coming out of that. So
that's to me on organic because it's true to type.
And then from Kneecap came Bob Villain. He said what

(45:11):
he said as a protest for the censorship of Kneecap
and so and then all these other bands are doing
the same, so of course some will come out early,
and it's harder to come out early obviously, you take,
you know, all the flak from Sharon Osborne in the
industry and all that, like we reported before, like Kneecap,

(45:33):
and then Bob Villain's come in on their sort of slipstream,
if you will, and anybody else that comes in at
this point, More the merrier, That's what I say. And
if they're gonna get if they're gonna sell more records
from it, they well, I think they should be rewarded
as artists for their politics rather than canceled. I'm all

(45:56):
for it.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
You don't really make money selling records anymore either. If
you're an artist, you make money touring touring, and this
is clearly a gamble for anyone that's going to do
it and in their stage set, because they lose tours
over it. So to me, it looks like they're willing
to lose money, although that is a balancing act, right,

(46:17):
I mean, you're right, Ruckus. Maybe in the long term
the notoriety is better than the short term losses, and
we've seen that with other artists, but I kind of
don't think that's what's going on here. I would use
artists like Rage against the machine as an as the
polar opposite example. You know, they're out there shilling for

(46:39):
their fans to accept authoritarianism. Believe it or not. That's
where we're at in twenty twenty five. You can't come
to our show unless you take a corporate injection. That's
like a short term popularity thing and a short term
get me back on stage thing, and a short term
get my million dollar contract thing. But in the longer term,

(47:00):
after enough people have lost loved ones and been you know,
under authoritarianism in the music fan segment, they're gonna lose fans.
They will lose they will this will not be a
good legacy for them.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, I mean, over the course of one's whole career,
you know, trying not to sell out on you know,
every issue so to speak, it's probably near near enough impossible.
Over the tire the entirety of your career, there's some
issue that you're just gonna like not you know, you're
just gonna get it wrong basically, or it's gonna come around.

(47:37):
And I think COVID and the whole that whole gambit
with the vaccine and all that sort of canceling to
do with covids. Obviously, people that are just gonna fail
big time. They're just gonna fall flat on their face.

Speaker 14 (47:52):
Oh another question about this event too, because I also
understand the way the media and live events work. Don't
they have some sort of wait and see thing just
in case something terrible happens. I don't know the exact
word for this, but it's not exactly live the delay,
that's the word.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Thing, correct. So the BBC, the BBC, we were caught
off on the time delay, and I think because they
didn't sometimes the sensor there they have a little button.
I think it's a five or fifteen second button or whatever,
so in case anything happens, the broadcaster can go cut
to commercial or cut to something else, like let's go

(48:31):
see the Celtic folk band on stage four, you know, like,
but they didn't do that, and Bob Villain caught them
by surprise and the rest is history. There he is
striding across the I bend to that stage. I think
I saw Maximo Park I remember seeing on that stage
in b York in two thousand and seven. It's a

(48:52):
big stage. It's it's it's not as big as the
Pyramid stage, but you know, there's a good twenty thousand
people there, at least thirty five and uh yeah, he
tore it up and they started chanting death debt to
the IDF Death. And now everyone's got that on their ringtones,
on their phone. Now it's like there was tracks out
like literally the next morning, tons of people had done

(49:15):
remixes of it and they're getting millions of views on
X So. Look, I'm just happy because it's about times
so the artists could step up and look, the guy
to thank is Michael Eavis because they pressured him to
a deplatform kneecap before the festival. He owns Glastonbury. He's ninety.

(49:37):
I think he's not. He's a Quaker. Now he's pro Ukrainian.
He got into all that sort of Ukraine thing in
the past, which is just cringe worthy. Paul McCartney with
a Ukrainian flag and you know it's uh so, people
are a victim of brainwashing and propaganda. But on this issue,
and thankfully this is a stall war left wing issue, Palestine,

(50:02):
and it has been for decades. So for the old lefties,
they never moved on Palestine. It's always been a core
issue internationally. So Eves told them to say. He said,
if you don't like it, go to another festival. That's
what he told all the lobbyist groups, the Israel Oup,
the pressure groups, Hope Not Hate, all these hate speech

(50:22):
NGOs they've cropped up to, you know, gay keep Basically
he told them to take a take a hike.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
Yeah, not like there's not just dozens of concerts and
festivals this time of year you can totally pick and choose.
In other concert news, pat Disturbed front man David Drayman
was booed last night while he was playing a support
slot at the Ozzy Osbourne Back to the Beginning Finale tour,

(50:52):
and it was because of his ongoing support for Israel
in the war on Hamas if you will, That's how
Daily Mail stated it. But yeah, he was getting jeered.
They were jeering Draymond as he was singing that night.
And so this is this has gone big. You know,

(51:14):
it's it's not just you know, a couple of one
off things like this is at a big concert like
that that was sold out within hours at a big venue.
That guy he had to kind of get, you know,
take some accountability for some of the things that he's said.
You know, he was out there talking against Kneecap right
after that happened, and it looks like he has now

(51:36):
received a backlash from music fans.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah, and just to reiterate that, when when the whole
Kneecap thing kicked off, we were reporting on it all
the UK toward dates, Marco Rubio intervened to cancel their
visas I think, and I think he's done the same
with Bob Villain as well. He did canceled his visa
so it basically can't go to the US. So this

(52:02):
guy as well can't travel to the US because they're
calling out a genocidal military force that's getting armed by
the US. I guess that's a terrible, terrible thing to do.
I mean, who are these people? Who do they think
they are? Who are these artists?

Speaker 12 (52:24):
You know?

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Us?

Speaker 14 (52:27):
I have another one of these Devil's advocate type questions,
just something I was thinking about mulling over the other day.
And you all know me, and I hope you understand
where I stand. So, yes, this is all good things
to me. And the more attention to this matter the
better because it needs to stop. Like a long time ago, asap,
this whole genocide thing is ridiculous. But for the longest
time there has been any considered effort from the media,

(52:49):
the Israeli lobby to demonize people who are using peaceful slogans,
particularly free Palestine and from the river to the sea,
Palestine will be free. There's been a lot the slows
that have been attached to this whatever it is, this
this movement, this changing of the whatever is happening that
we're witnessing right now, as exemplified in the audience taste

(53:12):
at these music concerts, that's a very big that's a
big tell. So society is not buying the israel bologna anymore.

Speaker 10 (53:18):
So that's good.

Speaker 14 (53:20):
But the thing is, why now did the chance now
we're chanting a word that actually has a negative can
be literally Now they can say, aha, see you are
calling for violence by saying death to granted, they're saying
to the IDF And of course, you know, and when
it comes to musicians, they scream horrible things and their
lyrics and chants all the time. But of course I
don't think they would ever get away with saying something

(53:41):
like this not that long ago.

Speaker 10 (53:43):
What's the reasoning behind this?

Speaker 14 (53:45):
It just does it need to be that extreme to
get the attention now because the Free Palestine wasn't cutting
it or is this you know, allowed to grow so
they can further demonize everybody and say, hey, look they're
literally calling for death.

Speaker 10 (53:56):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
I think I'll answer that question. And to quote Gillard Otsman,
who himself is a great artist, world famous in his
field of music and a best selling author and a
former Israeli who has you know, disowned his former country.
You could say, like Ellen miss Rahie as well. But

(54:20):
Gillard Otsman said the job of the artist is to push,
push the envelope to the point where they reform the conversation.
So the artist has the ability to to destroy, deconstruct
the matter, you know, as it were, deconstruct the argument,

(54:40):
put it together the way they want in their art,
whether they're an artist, poet, a writer, or a musician.
And rap is more direct. I mean, let's see, it's
it's more it's literally you just come up with a
with a with a chant, you know, three word chant, death,
five word chant or whatever it is that that's the

(55:01):
idea of And he just probably came up with that
right on on screen. He had the Free Palestine up
behind him, but he did it and it got broadcast
and then all hell broke loose, So that I think
it speaks more to how much control there is on
the media to prevent those moments from happening. They they

(55:22):
shut Kneecap out completely, and and so it was like
whack a mole, you push, pushed down Kneecap, Bob Villain
pops up, Fontaine's pop up, other bands pop up, and
and I think, I think, you know, God blessed them.
They were actually witnessing something actually real happening for once.

(55:43):
I can see how you you one could be skeptical
because it has been so controlled and curated in the
especially in the mainstream, for so long, and that when
something does break out and they don't know how to
handle it, total apoplectic fit by the mainstream and government

(56:04):
and everybody's freaking out. BBC is like, oh my god,
who do we fire? Someone needs to be fired. So
if I said death to Isis or death to al Qaida,
what would happen to me as an artist on stage?
Probably nothing?

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Nothing much.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Would it make a headline?

Speaker 12 (56:23):
No?

Speaker 1 (56:24):
And so so this is a military outfit, the IDF,
and they are bombing people in refugee camps repeatedly on
film for years now twenty months and shooting people that
are starving queuing up for food. So if one, if

(56:44):
somebody's saying death, if you say death to the American military,
is that gonna is that gonna get you in any
hot water?

Speaker 5 (56:53):
Depends who you are'm where you say it. But not
generally death to.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
The US military, you know, death, death to the US
arm or whatever. Uh, it's probably not. It's probably not
really gonna even in America. It's you know, people might say, ah,
so what it's it's a military. What are you gonna
do about it's a military.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
You can get a lot of side eye, or you
might get a punch in the face if you're in
the wrong bar. But other than that, like, it's not
going to make a headline, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
And if you said death to the Russian Army in
the West, what would happen to you? Would you get canceled? No? No, No,
you'd be Yeah, they'd be dancing, wouldn't they. Yeah, you
got it ruckus. They'd be dancing and Ellen DeGeneres would
be doing like a happy dance on their show. So,
but say that about the Israeli army. Whoa, hey, oh easy, now, oh,

(57:46):
let's not get violent, you know you? And and so
they they the disingenuous uh celebrities media personality said they're
calling for the what do they say, the extermination of
old Jews? This this rapper, this rapper. And I love
how they caveat it. They said, this obscure rapper. Okay,

(58:09):
so he's obscure, but you're making famous and.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
He's playing a pretty big venue, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
It's just like you guys can't get it right.

Speaker 14 (58:19):
Last time they reported about that guy, they called him
an up and coming independent artist.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Yeah. Yeah, well he's arrived. He's arrived. Augh right, So yeah,
I mean, I think it's just brilliant. I know. To me,
the best part about it was the next morning and
all these people did their viral remixes and they're all
getting millions of views on x Yeah, and there was
a house trans version. There was like a garage version.

(58:47):
It was a happy house version. It was great. So,
I mean, I.

Speaker 14 (58:53):
Want the massage version with the Donald Trump one that
they did where they don't know what the f they're doing.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Fine, Oh oh that yeah, I've heard that one that's
a good one as well. Yeah, so good. And I
don't know if you guys caught this or not, but
you know, this is a huge story. Now I remember
when this organ this isn't even an organization like they
just met, they just got a website together. It's literally

(59:23):
a grass grassroots collective that are doing kind of what
the Greens do, you know what I mean, like the
climate people chain themselves to things, do direct action. They're
vandalizing weapons Israeli weapons firms. Basically they spray painted a
British jet red and apparently that was, you know, against

(59:48):
national security. So and here's my argument on this, and
we'll go to details on so look at this. Here
we go. So here's the argument. This is the Home Secretary, guys,
the UK's defense enterprise. Interesting choice of words. Enterprise is
a vital is vital to the nation's national security and

(01:00:12):
this government, the British government, will not tolerate those that
put that security at risk. So they're talking about enterprise
that means defense industry. So but how could that be
a risk to national security? I mean, who's invading England?

(01:00:32):
Are the French invading? Is it the Dutch? Are they coming?
Is the are the orangemen back, like what's happening, and
so it's it's so then they could then they make
the argument, well, it's in the national interest, so okay,
so the national interest, So the national interest is the
corporate interest, right, that's the argument that's implicitly being made here.

(01:00:57):
So corporate interest is national security. You will put those
things together. That's what they're saying here, And that is
a very blurry line. It's a very blurry line, and
they're enforcing it. And I'm afraid this is pretty fascist

(01:01:20):
as fascist goes. This is pretty fascist. These people are
not doing violence to anybody, they're activists, but they're doing
criminal damage. That's what they said here. We'll bring that back.
Criminal damage, unacceptable, criminal damage. Okay, there's already laws on
the books for that. They've taken them to court already.

(01:01:40):
This same group has been to court and been dismissed once, twice,
three times because it was argued by their defense lawyers
that they were trying to prevent a genocide, and the
government just jumped over all of that precedent law and
jumped straight to invoking the Terrorism Act. So they're gonna

(01:02:05):
they're they're going to appeal. I think they have a
good chance in the appeal, but the time it's going
to take at the moment, you can't express any support
for this organization Palestine action, so otherwise you can get
arrested as a terrorist in the UK. So it's kind

(01:02:27):
of a crazy situation if you think about it, like
this is and who's behind this? I think it's the
Israeli lobby that's really leaning hard on the government to
to kind of, you know, make this work, shut this down,
shut down any support on social media, uh, or any

(01:02:49):
protests in public. They just want to shut it down.
That's kind of that's That's exactly what's happening here, guys.
This is I mean, you're nearly there in America with Trump. Yeah,
I mean what what what are your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
You their proxies will do this anyways, I mean look
at look at what the was it the CTO of
Pallanteer said about Code Pink after someone broke in, you know,
after the footage we played a few weeks back, uh
you know, uh breaking into a meeting and with Alex
Carpon saying, you know, free Palestine, you know, why is

(01:03:24):
your technology killing my friends and family?

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
You know, and of course she got laughed at and ejected.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
From the room.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
But then one of their sea level corporate stooges gets
on Fox News and starts asking the US government to
label Code Pink a terrorist organization for for that. So
it's like Israel itself doesn't even have to do it.
They've got all these lack he's in the corporate industry,
in the media industry. Of course, they've bought their way

(01:03:54):
into the House of Commons, and bought their way into
the Senate, and bought their way into the Congress, and
bought their way into the White House, and shoved their
little technocratic icmans into the White House. And all these
people do the busy work for them, you know. So
I'm not surprised at all. And you're absolutely right. We

(01:04:15):
are on the way there ourselves here in America if
we don't utilize our free speech as much as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
And welcome Basil Valentine onto the stage. Hello, mister v.
How are you doing?

Speaker 12 (01:04:30):
Good evening all, and hello to of yours and listeners
all around the world. I'm very well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:04:35):
This comes after months of lobbying by various Israel lobby
groups to get Palestine Action Bann. It's an embarrassment as
well as actually causing some considerable harm to the UK
wing of the Israeli arms industry with its targeting of
Elbert systems. It was proving extremely effective but disrupting the

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supply chain, as well as of course drawing attention to
the genocide itself. The Home Office, when they published their
reasons for why they were prescribing Palestine Action, lifted whole
sections verbatim from the statement by we Believe in Israel

(01:05:19):
lobby front group. So it seems that the UK Home
Office was simply copying tel Aviv's homework, you know, adding
fuel to the notion that Britain is indeed ruled by
tel Aviva. In the Daily Mail, the Sunday Mail last week,
after Bobby Villain's performance at glaston we actually ran with
the headline tel Aviv furious, you know, as if that

(01:05:43):
should make any difference to what happens on stages at
events in Britain.

Speaker 12 (01:05:49):
What possible?

Speaker 15 (01:05:50):
So what if tel Aviv is furious, tel Aviv is
busy conducting a genocide. It's a good idea to make
tel Aviv furious, isn't it?

Speaker 12 (01:05:58):
But yeah, over.

Speaker 15 (01:06:00):
Twenty people were arrested in Parliament Square yesterday, ironically on
the same day that David Lammi met Algilani in damasc As,
somebody who's actually sliced people's heads off with a big knife.
They were arresting an eighty three year old elderly priest woman,
a pacifist, So of course the jokes and the memes

(01:06:24):
have been doing the rounds on social media. There are
in fact a mass tunnels under her house. She is
only days away from enriching uranium sufficiently to produce a
nuclear bomb. We are all so much safer now that
this eighty three year old pacifist has been locked up.

(01:06:45):
So Mark Rowley had the cheek to go on BBC
this morning and defend the prescription or other the arrests,
at least by saying that they caused thousands of pounds
worth of damage. Well, that's the whole point of the exercise,
Mark Rowley, and previous precedents set by the courts states

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that a crime is justifiable if it can be proved
to be preventing a greater crime, and obviously there is
no greater crime than genocide. So we really are at
a tipping point where the full chrome of whether we
choose to live in a civilized society or a barbaric one.
I think more and more people are waking up to

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the fact that Western powers, and in particular the United States,
United Kingdom and above all Israel, are in fact on
the side of barbarism. Hence all the chanting at Glastonbury
last weekend. We are perhaps on the cusp of some
kind of global awakening to just how evil the people

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running our respective countries are. But for the time being
they're doubling down. The telegraphers today run with a headline
banning Palestine action is just the first step. Britain has
for too long allowed anti Israel hate marches to become
a regular fixture on our streets. So the lobby for

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which is the Telegraph is one of the chief mouthpieces,
now want to stop the anti genocide rallies and marches.
They'll be going after the Palestine Solidarity campaign next that
We're going after anyone that can get their hands on.
A lot of people have been questioning how this is
now going to play out. I mean, Roger Waters posted

(01:08:38):
a message on social media saying this is the SPARSEUS
moment I have to say now that I'm reporting what
a third party said, Roger Waters, these are not my views,
or there'll be a knock on the door.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
But Spartacus, is is that a terror violation of the
Terrorism Act?

Speaker 12 (01:08:57):
Question?

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Spartacus, there you go, scissors, Spartacus moment. Is that to
to racy for this?

Speaker 15 (01:09:06):
Well, Roger posted I support that in a message on
social media. So the campaign against anti Semitism of all
people are calling for his arrest and drawing police attention
to it. So Roger could be arrested, even though of
course it's the campaign against anti Semitism that are being

(01:09:30):
anti Semitic by conflating the criticism of the IDF with
all Jewish people, which is itself an anti Semitic trope.
But anyway to go back to, yeah, so the Telegraph
want to ban the marches. Obviously if it Cooper took,
I mean, really ridiculously cheap woman three hundred thousand pounds

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from Israel lobby donors. That's a lot, well it's a
lot in Britain terms, But that buys you domestic policy,
That gets you tele Aviv writing the Home Office is
press releases. That buys you the prescription of a protest organization.

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So these are particularly dark days in many ways they are.
This is fascist. There's no point mincing words. It's not
nearly fascist or proto fascist. It is fascist. And all
I can say is that the resistance is doubling down,
is more popular than ever. I mean, what's really infuriated

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Israel the lobby, and of course they're bought and paid
for Lackey's in Westminster, is that for all their decades
of propaganda and censorship and all the rest of it,
they can't stop people using their own eyes and ears
to see what's going on, to work out what's going on,

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particularly among young people. And what happened last weekend in
Glastonbury was totally disruptive to the narrative that they've been
trying to sell for the last two years in particular,
but thirty forty years and longer, and that's what causes
them to melt down in the way that they have.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Yes, yeah, I'm so happy that Glastonbury has kind of
repaired its image a little bit from when Palmercartney in
his Ukrainian flag solo a couple of years ago that
was pretty cringe worthy and really put me off. Glastonbury altogether.
But now it looks like it's cool again.

Speaker 12 (01:11:36):
Well you know, yeah, it's for as long as it.
Of course, the lobby want to get the whole thing canceled.
They oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:11:45):
And the festival is now going to be subject to
a license review, which means that the authorities, the local council,
police and doubtless the Home Office we haven't put as well,
are going to say, you know, you're.

Speaker 12 (01:11:58):
Not to book this kind of artist. You're going to
have to meet people.

Speaker 13 (01:12:02):
Uh you know.

Speaker 15 (01:12:02):
They've been calls for the Director General of the BBC
to be sacked for having allowed the Bobby Villain broadcast
to go ahead. Oh yes, I mean they don't. They
double down every opportunity brick.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
So so so if if the IDF managed to kill
every last breathing soul in Gaza, should Glastonbury then throw
a celebration and maybe we could the main stage, the
Pyramid stage could have could have I don't know what's
a good pro Israeli band could come out and.

Speaker 12 (01:12:35):
Do that dreadful bloke who was booed at aston Villa
disturbed disturbed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
They can do a sort of you know, a gratuitous
solo uh and celebrate the the virtues of the Middle East.
So only democracy and the most moral army in the world.
Would that make them happy? Would then the BBC? Would
that be acceptable by the BBC if they did.

Speaker 15 (01:12:59):
That, Well, the BBC being forced to put in a
kill switch and to vet anybody that they screened from
glaston Belive much more assiduously in future. That's all coming
into place, it's all got to be sanitized.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Well, there's a kill switch for the BBC. It's you
put your hand on that plug that it connects the
TV to the electrical outlet and you yank it. That's
the BBC kill switch. Now, David Lammy is the Foreign
the esteemed Foreign Secretary Basle of the UK's most vaunted
Foreign and Commonwealth Office. And while we're talking about proscribing

(01:13:38):
activist groups in the UK who are spray painting planes
and trying to stop a genocide and labeling terrorists, while
at the same time the Foreign Secretary is embracing the
founder of al Qaeda in Syria, the former deputy of
Abu Baker al Baghdaddy, the Caliph of isis none other

(01:13:59):
than Jilani himself. And so I was like I got
a call from a media outlet. I won't name the
media outlet, but they're very notorious and very dangerous. But
they called me to comment on this, and I probably
you know, I thought, is this a good thing to
comment on, especially with this outlet? And then I thought,

(01:14:22):
this is so ridiculous, This is so ridiculous. I couldn't
help myself. So let me upload this and so you
guys can watch it. So you probably are familiar with
the outlet. They've got that funny green logo. You know
those guys, those ones. So yeah, they asked me about
Jolani and what does it mean. So we'll do a

(01:14:44):
little review of his esteemed career. This is the new
president of Syria. Let's look at his resume and then
I'll just play like a couple of seconds or you know,
thirty seconds or a minute of my opening comment. But
this is about the easiest interview I ever had ever.

Speaker 10 (01:16:23):
No one has the right to erase another group.

Speaker 14 (01:16:26):
There must be a legal framework that protects and ensures
the rights of all.

Speaker 11 (01:16:33):
There are thousands who joined al Qaeda, But why did
they joined al Qaeda?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
That's the question.

Speaker 10 (01:16:44):
What did you think and feel on nine to eleven
at the time.

Speaker 11 (01:16:48):
Anyone who lived in Islamic or Arab word at the
time who tells you he wasn't happy about it would
be lying.

Speaker 15 (01:17:03):
You're recognized, you're designated as a terrorist by the United States,
by the United Nations, by many governments.

Speaker 12 (01:17:11):
What do you say to them?

Speaker 11 (01:17:13):
That's his unfair characterization. It's a political label that carried
no truth or credibility. We haven't posed any threat to
Western or European society.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Let's discuss this with Patrick Hellingson, independent journalist and founder
of the twenty first century wy News website, joining us
from the UK. Good to see you, mister Henderson. It's
been a while. First of all, i'd like to ask
for your initial reaction to the announcement that the UK
is renewing diplomatic ties with Syria. After we saw David Lammy.
They're shaking hands with al Jelani and Damascus.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
There's a long time coming. The United States, the UK,
other European countries have telegraphed this what they call normalization
of relations with Syria. Look at this as the sort
of culmination of a fourteen year regime change project, because
that's exactly what it is. And This is kind of
shocking on many levels, which you've shown a great compendium

(01:18:24):
of all the sort of facts and things that led
up to this moment. But let's just start off with
the fact that this is not actually a legitimate government
by definition, by my own Press and Journalism Handbook definition,
this is a junta. And if we count the fact
that hts aka al Qaeda in Syria is a listed
terrorist organization by many of these Western countries, then it's

(01:18:48):
a terrorist hunta So that's kind of like what you're
interfacing with. But it kind of makes a mockery in
a way of the whole concept of quote proscribing terrorist
organizations that the West do, and it just shows that
there's no real objective. It's the only thing Jolani said
in that interview that it's a political designation. Certainly it is,

(01:19:10):
and so political and so arbitrary that it's been lifted.
And the reason it's been lifted in this case is
because Jolani aka al Sharar, this self styled self proclaimed
president of Syria, no elections, no plebiscite. In fact, he's
saying no elections in the next four or five years,
no expectation of any democracy at all. But he has

(01:19:33):
said he wants to have normalized relations with Israel. That's
the reason, and no other reason. That is the main
reason why the United States and why Britain are engaging,
why France is engaging with this regime in Damascus, Okay,
And there's no other reason. And so and also this

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is quite extraordinary because the events of the last few
weeks have vindicated what the Iranians were saying for years,
which is that it was defending Syria from the terrorist
onslaught the hordes of international brigades of mercenary terrorists led
by the likes of Jolani, who himself is the deputy

(01:20:16):
of former deputy of Al Baghdaddy, the head of Isis,
the founder of al Qaeda in Syria. Al Jolani ak
al Sharar that if Syria fell, if the Assad government fell,
then Israel would have a clear path to attack Iran.
And what happened six months ago the Assad government fell,
Syria took out all of sorry Israel took out all

(01:20:40):
of Syria's air defenses and Syrian airspace then came under
the control of the United States and Israel for the
most part, at least, that path that directed them right
above Iraqi Kurdistan for a clear shot at Iran. And
that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened a few
weeks ago. So anyway, I thought i'd get that dig

(01:21:02):
in on the Iranian angle, but it what do what
do you think? I mean? It just uh, this just
makes a mockery of the whole war on terror full stop,
doesn't it? I mean it, how could how could any
of these governments be taken seriously in in that how
they're labeling one terrorist group and another. It's a complete

(01:21:27):
joke at this point, is it me?

Speaker 5 (01:21:28):
Or or is Jolanni like like the perfect poster child
for a in the open uh C I a US
State Department Pentagon Mosad style cutout dictator to drop into
a country. I mean, there's there's like comedy movies about this.

(01:21:49):
It's it reminds me of Zelensky almost, except this guy has,
like Basil said, sliced people's heads off with a large knife.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Head chopper from IDLIB said thirty thousand terrorists in it
even admitted it his first term led by that guy.
So it's it's US Britain.

Speaker 15 (01:22:09):
No, No, the terrorists are Palestine action people seeking to
disrupt the supply of weapons to the genocidal regime with paint.

Speaker 12 (01:22:23):
On blends.

Speaker 15 (01:22:24):
That's terrorism, not slicing people's heads off. To bring you
just up to date with that, they sought an injunction
at the High Court where the Lady Chief Justice herself,
Baroness Carr, who I know personally from university, was presiding.

Speaker 12 (01:22:42):
Uh, and that failed.

Speaker 15 (01:22:44):
The High Court in a really abysmal decision because they
you know, it's a cop out. They said, oh, we
are only here to you know, uphold the law, not
to interpret it in any way or judge the organizations
and sells. That's for the House of Commons to do.

Speaker 6 (01:23:03):
So.

Speaker 15 (01:23:03):
Now Pallas Dinactional seeking a full judicial review, and that
application will be heard towards the end of this month.
A judicial review then means a much lengthier process that
examines the legality of the government's decision, because back when
the Act that's been used for this prescription was passed

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in two thousand and three, it was explicitly sedated that
it would not be used.

Speaker 12 (01:23:28):
To prescribe this kind of organization.

Speaker 15 (01:23:30):
Yeah, so you know, we still I personally still cling
to the hope that you know there are enough wise
heads in the judiciary to overturn this whole.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
I agree, your right, Basil. I think it's going to
get overturned. The problem is in the meantime they're just
arresting people willy nilly, pensioners, priests, quakers, all sorts. That's
the problems people's rights are being related in the interim.
But you're right, Basil.

Speaker 15 (01:24:04):
Of the funniest thing was they decided, I don't know
whether they can go ahead with this to simply change
the name of the organization to Veet Cooper. Yeah, and
so that then the Home Secretary would have to try
and prescribe herself.

Speaker 12 (01:24:19):
We're going to ban Evet Cooper. Yeah. People have been
asking on social media as well, how does this work?

Speaker 15 (01:24:27):
What if an organization with or but identical lanes pops
up tomorrow simply called Action.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
For Palestine, Uh, and through the whole process, it's.

Speaker 12 (01:24:38):
A different organization.

Speaker 15 (01:24:39):
So you know, uh, the laws, as Ben Johnson famously said,
if that is the law, then the law is an.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Ass How about the provisional the provisional Palestine Action, Yeah, provisional, Yeah,
they're doing the whole Irish Irish Republican jig. Okay, now here,
let's bring up let's bring the document up, guys, Let's
take a look at this. I'm sure, I'm sure Basil's

(01:25:08):
read this already. Oh hold on, let me let me
try to get this, get this thing cued up. But
so I've got the what would the statement issued by
the Metropolitan Police, the actual statement, and we try to
get a hold of that, but the wording is very
so so what's covered under this, it's just this crazy

(01:25:31):
broad brush. I don't know if you've read the actual
police statement or not, but it's just kind of you
know it. My fear, guys, is this is the shape
of things to come. Like they're really just getting very,
very broad and arbitrary with these sort of things. And

(01:25:52):
you know, here we go. This is this is the
the official statement. Here. We'll bring this up on screen
so everybody can take a good look at this, and
I'll scroll down through it as well. And so here
it is update on policing in London following the proscription.
This is such a wanky word prescription prescribed. It almost

(01:26:14):
makes it sound like it's no big deal. Prescription of
Palestine action. So Palestine action again, this is the Metropolitan Police.
They're enforcing this Palestine action has now been proscribed by
the UK government and expressing support for them is a
criminal offense in the UK. I mean that alone is

(01:26:37):
a little bit dicey legally exactly. But they don't even
say terrorism here. They just say proscribed and I don't
see the word terrorist, and that to me is it
makes it sound like it's no big deal. But you
still can't talk about them. But if they use the
word terrorist in there at least would have a little
more weight to it. But anyway they get the Terrorism

(01:26:57):
Act comes here. So there are no of events taking
place in London this weekend and anyone attending should be
aware that officers are policing. Oh my gosh, the crewis
are out policing speech and thought. These will act where
their criminal offenses, including those related to support to the

(01:27:20):
support of proscribed groups and organizations, are committed. Under the
Terrorism Act of two thousand Tact, the Home Secretary may
proscribe an organization if they believe if they believe that
it is concerned in terrorism and it is proportionate to
do so. What if they're anti genocide? Is that really

(01:27:42):
that bad to be anti genocide? Anyway, I'm just throwing
that out there. Prescription makes it a criminal offense to
invite or express support for a proscribed organization through chanting,
wearing clothes, or displaying articles such as flags, signs, or logos. Now,
what if you sympathize or show compassion, or you know,

(01:28:06):
or you morally side with the group in question? Does
that count as a criminal offense because it's not explicitly
listed here. They're really explicit here, Basil. I don't know
what your opinion is on it. It says chanting, wearing clothes,
or displaying articles such as flag signs or logos. Is
that explicit enough for you, Basil as a member of

(01:28:30):
the public.

Speaker 15 (01:28:31):
Well, two people were detained by the police yesterday, I believe,
for wearing T shirts that said simply free Palestine. This
was in Lancashire. They were told to take the t
shirts off because they could be in breach of the
law just the words free Palestine. Now, at the moment,

(01:28:52):
we're not quite in a situation where saying free Palestine
is itself a criminal offense.

Speaker 12 (01:28:58):
I think.

Speaker 15 (01:29:00):
The lobby, the Israel lobby, would very much like to
move over to the window, all the way over there
there have been editorials by horrendous individuals like Melanie Phillips
saying that any form of solidarity with the Palestinian cause
is anti semitism, really extraordinary stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Who is Melanie Phillips again? Is she the chief Rabbi
or something.

Speaker 15 (01:29:25):
Or no, She's just a extremely She's one of these
you know, ultra Zionist, psychotic warmonger witches that is still
given a veneer of respectability.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
What's her qualification for wanting to enforce thought thought control?

Speaker 15 (01:29:43):
And from the fact that she's she's she's a member
of the chosen race, of course, so that gives.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Her tribe, tribe, that's that's where.

Speaker 12 (01:29:57):
They want to go.

Speaker 15 (01:29:58):
So I mean the moment, yes, this is very I
mean if you use those two words together, the name
of the organization, the words beginning with P and A,
and you you say those words, you know, in a
very favorable context, or of course the chant that was
doing the rounds we are all blank blank, then you're

(01:30:23):
going to get into trouble. We don't know whether the
police are going to be sort of pulling people out
of marches for saying that or for wearing the PA
T shirts which were very popular at Glastonbury last weekend.
PA actually signed up a thousand new members at least
last week.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
So there's a lot of people at Glastonbury that have
shirts that say PA crew as in audio or av yes,
I believe. What is the So if you say we
are all personal assistants, we are all personal resistance, We're

(01:31:06):
all maybe that will maybe that will work. What do
you think?

Speaker 12 (01:31:10):
Oh, it's three.

Speaker 15 (01:31:11):
Levels of complete and absurdity. Particularly you know when you
consider that, you know, simply expressing support for this organization
is the same as being a fully paid up member
of ISIS or al Kader.

Speaker 12 (01:31:30):
You know, yes or no?

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
No, no, no.

Speaker 15 (01:31:34):
The idea is a protected characteristic, Patrick, it's a characteristic.
If you chant against the idea, then you're guilty of
a hate crime.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
So if I identify as as an IDEF, I get
special protections. Yes, absolutely, Okay, that's good to know. In
case you get into a GM, you can always pull
your IDF card, can always pull the id F card.

Speaker 12 (01:31:59):
Well, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
I aspire, I aspire to serve in the idea even
though I'm not Jewish.

Speaker 12 (01:32:06):
There are quite a number of so called British citizens.

Speaker 15 (01:32:12):
Dual nationalities in many cases who've been to Gaza and
taken part in the jedocide. They are returning to the UK,
including some members of the create what have been called
the craziest units.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Okay, all that thought, I want to get through this
police thing. I want to get Hasher and Ruckus's comment
on what's what's here? And we'll come back to you, Basel.
But let me just get through this real quick here.
So it is a criminal offense to number one, going
on the bullet points here belong or profess to belong
to a prescribed organization in the UK or overseas. So

(01:32:52):
membership I suppose, or wanting to belong who knows? Invite
support for a prescribed organization? Now that is pretty vague
and arbitrary. Invite support? What does that mean? Express? How
about this express an opinion or belief that is supportive
of a proscribed organization? Whoa big red flag here, guys,

(01:33:17):
I think we can stop there. I want to get
Hesher and Ruckus's reaction to some of this your thoughts, Hesher.

Speaker 5 (01:33:26):
Well, First off, I want to talk about the word
proscribed for a second. I don't think that's a word
a lot of people use very often, and it means prohibited,
basically prohibition. So what they're saying here, if I'm reading
between the lines, if I'm using my Global Leese translating

(01:33:48):
decoder ring, is that we are the government, and we
are paid by other governments to prohibit the kind of
clothes you wear, the kind of things you can say,
the kind of people that you can agree with or
relate with, or even meet up with and hang out

(01:34:10):
with like that is prohibited. So the government is saying
if you even think that you agree with what you
have seen from a proscribed person or a proscribed rapper
or a proscribed whatever, and they can throw any group

(01:34:32):
in this proscription whenever they want. They're telling you that
you're not free to dress and speak and think and
meet with people in the way that a free person
would should and could. That's what they're telling you. They're
telling you you can be arrested for something that they

(01:34:56):
have proscribed, something that they have prohibited, a prohibited person,
a prohibited T shirt, a prohibited scarf, a prohibited rap,
a prohibited slam poetry, a prohibited rock song, whatever. And
this is amazing. They're basically telling you that if you
have an opinion that is other than you know that

(01:35:17):
supports anything they want to prohibit, proscribe, then you can
be arrested. And you know, they arrested a German grandma
last year, ninety five year old German GRAMDMA for quote
unquote Holocaust denial, you know, and some of our friends
in the chat are saying, you know, well, they can't

(01:35:38):
arrest everyone, And I think that's kind of the phase
that we're at right now. Everyone is being a problem
quote unquote everyone all the way up to the director
of BBC, And even though he may not think that
he allowed that platforming to happen, you know, or they
want to place blame on someone, they want to scapegoat
that person. So it this is going to be interesting

(01:36:01):
to see how, you know, are they going to fill
the jails up with people that were wearing T shirts?
Are they going to have to let the rapists and
murderers out so that somebody with a white and black
scarf can sit in a cell and rot and think
about what the horrible atrocity that they've done by asking
for an end to a genocide.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
I don't know, well, it seems like that ruckus, ruckus,
what do you think.

Speaker 10 (01:36:27):
This is all insane?

Speaker 14 (01:36:28):
To me, especially the timing of this, because you know,
it was fourth of July not that long ago here
in America where this country celebrated its independence from Britain,
and I might want to remind everybody that this type
of thing is nothing. They did not need the Israeli
lobby back then to start attaching the label of terrorism

(01:36:48):
to a certain select group of individuals at that time.

Speaker 10 (01:36:51):
Oh yes, that's right.

Speaker 14 (01:36:53):
Most Americans these days appear to have forgotten this life lesson.
But yes, the founding fathers, the one who started this
country where I'm broadcasting to you from today almost two
hundred and fifty years ago.

Speaker 10 (01:37:04):
Were proscribed as terrorists.

Speaker 14 (01:37:07):
And usually the patriots out here like to talk about
that and bring it up because oftentimes those people who
are now cozy with the MAGA and the tech pros
and everything's going their way now, But when it wasn't
going their way during the last administration or during the
medical intervention emergency period time, how dare you stamp on
our rights?

Speaker 10 (01:37:26):
How dare you say this? Xyz?

Speaker 14 (01:37:28):
The lefties too, they're like, oh, don't touch my body,
Like where are all of these people's outcry over a
government overreaching and just randomly labeling people and organizations willy
nilly as terrorists. This example here of the Free Palestine
was like thinking, what's an interesting analogy. Oh yeah, that's
right here. In the United States of America, most states,

(01:37:49):
I'm pretty sure, fact check me here, it's against the
law to go to somebody's parked vehicle with their windows
closed and just smash open the window.

Speaker 10 (01:37:56):
That's a crime.

Speaker 14 (01:37:57):
However, if you walk past a car and the windows
are closed and it's a hot day and there's a
little kid stuck in there, you're allowed to bash open
that window to you know better the situation and save
that child's life. This what they did here against these
people would be like taking that person who just bashed
that window, not only criminalizing them for the action, but

(01:38:18):
throwing them in the slammer for years and making it
a crime to even be outside anywhere within six feet
of any closed car windows.

Speaker 10 (01:38:25):
It's insane, insane to me what they're doing here.

Speaker 7 (01:38:28):
This is like this.

Speaker 14 (01:38:30):
The West clearly has a terrorism problem, but it's not
the one that we think they have a problem with
just using this word whenever it suits their needs. You know,
we're gonna call this group terrorists, but the last group
be called terrorists. They're not terrorists anymore. Well, how long
do we have to wait till these people aren't terrorists anymore?
Are they going to start their own country now? Are
we going to have a new revolutionary war from free Palestine?

(01:38:50):
I doubt that unfortunately. But yeah, it's all insane to
me and tone death considering the timing of it all.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
And just hold on, wait one second, another reminder. Let
me bring this up on screen. That's Donald Trump embracing
the founder of al Qaeda in Syria who cheered on
nine to eleven, Al Gilani. So none of it means
anything anymore as far as our governments are concerned. So

(01:39:19):
they really don't have very much credibility at all if
they did at all at this point. Anyway, And I'll
come to you Basle in the moment, But let me
just run quickly through this. Okay, here's the next bullet point.
This is interesting. Guys arrange, manage, or assist in arranging
or managing a meeting in the knowledge that the meeting

(01:39:42):
is to support further the activities of a prescribed organization
or is to be addressed by a person who belongs
or professes to okay, fine, how about this work clothing,
or carry or display article in public in such a

(01:40:02):
way or in such a circumstance as to arouse arouse
reasonable suspicion. Do you, guys feel aroused? Is anybody aroused
in the chat? If you're aroused, just we'll bring the
comments up that the individual is a member or could
be a member. Maybe they're a member or thinking about

(01:40:25):
becoming a member, or could be a supporter, construed thereof
of a prescribed organization. Okay, fine, I editorialize that a
little bit. I embellished, I admit it. But that's kind
of like the word solid. Publish an image of an
item of clothing so that T shirt sales out the

(01:40:46):
window right there, or other articles such as a flag
logo similar circumstances. If you have any concerns during an event,
speak to a police officer or an event stewart and
see if they are in violation or if you respect
somebody's in violation of the Terrorism Act of two thousand,
snitch on them. If you see something, say something. You

(01:41:07):
know the drill, guys, basil, you know the drill.

Speaker 15 (01:41:11):
Yeah, I mean, first of all, the irony is that
it was the anniversary of the Suffragette movements. They would
have been designated as terrorists. And you've had dozens of
women parliamentarians standing in Westminster Hall, including the Home Secretary herself,
wearing the colors of the Suffragettes. The Suffragettes would be

(01:41:32):
designated as a terrorist organization. Now they actually did a
lot more criminal damage and damage to purse people, animals.
One of them threw herself under the King's horse in
the Derby, you know, than PA have done. So, you know,
the hypocrisies is simply off the charts, and as Ruckus

(01:41:54):
pointed out, there's also in a breath taking hypocrisy.

Speaker 12 (01:41:58):
From the so called free speech right.

Speaker 8 (01:42:01):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:42:02):
JD Vance at the Munich Security Conference lectured Great Britain
about limitations on our freedom of speech. But of course
the Palestine exception, the Israel exception, as is always with
the case, because they are anxious, stuffed with ultra Zionists. Likewise,
the so called free speech Union in Britain deathly quiet

(01:42:25):
about all this because they're all Palestine haters as well.
In fact, there's a sort of very very unattractive anti
Palestinian racism which is carried over from the anti Muslim
racism that's been allowed to rear its head in Britain

(01:42:50):
in recent years, emboldened by Nigel Farage, such that on
the old you know our enemies, enemy is our friend
and all the rest of it. Then they support Israel,
the likes of commentators like David.

Speaker 12 (01:43:06):
Atherton and Chris Rose and all the rest of it.
They've all been.

Speaker 15 (01:43:10):
Brainwashed into somehow thinking that because the majority of people
in Gaza are Muslim, they all deserve to die, simple
as that they're all terrorists, potential terrorists, you know, or whatever.
So they all join in the pylon as well. And
also of course that simply any form of Palestinian solidarity

(01:43:32):
is a left issue. See, so you're automatically a leftist
if you show any solidarity with the Palestinians. Indeed, if
you condemn the actions of the Israeli government, you're a leftist.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
It quickly bazz on the far right. Thing. So, if
Israel is killing Muslims and Arabs and record numbers in
the Middle East, literally bombing them in their homes and
when they flee, bombing them in the refugee tent uh,
that kind of gives them a strong case to flee
the Middle East come to Europe and claim, you know,
asylum from a war zone. I think it's just about

(01:44:09):
as good of a case as you could possibly make.
So why are they cheering for Israel? If Israel's driving
refugees into Europe? This is maybe that's too high of
a concept question. Yea, for the likes of Tommy Robinson,
the low IQ debate crowd, the parages of the world.
I'm just throwing that out there. What do you think
is that a reasonable question?

Speaker 12 (01:44:30):
Yeah? No, no, absolutely.

Speaker 15 (01:44:32):
I mean, if you want to be a conspiracy theorist,
you can start talking about the calergy plan to flood
Western Europe with refugees from North Africa and the Middle
East in order to undermine Western civilization. But the Israelis
have managed to convince these low intellect people that they
in Israel are the bulwark against the Muslim hordes, and

(01:44:56):
that this little plucky outpost is you know, share as
how values and all the rest of it.

Speaker 12 (01:45:02):
They're white people.

Speaker 15 (01:45:03):
And even though of course the Israelis regard you know,
so called Christian Zionists with complete contempt, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
Total contempt, total enough enough of our high faluting intellectual
softistry let's look at what the real the people who
really know what's going on, the people in our comment threads.
We're gonna bring those up on stage here and here
we go, let the wisdom begin. Anything could be a

(01:45:31):
circumstance that could quote arouse reasonable suspicion. What is reasonable?
Good point? Oh, and it gets better, it's worse. It's
like going to jail for having a bumper sticker on
your car saying don't leave children in hot cars. There
you go, ruckus. And how about this? This is from
two to six. I like this one. This sounds like

(01:45:52):
anti witch legislation resurrected from the sixteen hundreds. And Salem, Massachusetts,
Thank you very much. I used to live up the
road from there. That's not bad mouth Salem. Oh, here
we go, Rupert Fellow's pre crime thought police. Yeah we're there.
We're nearly there. Add Ai to the mix and Alex
KRP and you got yourself the Minority report. Uh and

(01:46:14):
here we go. Uh. Trump looks aroused, meeting head chopper
Jiu Lannie. I think is a spelling error there, Jiu Lanni.
That's definitely a typo. We'll speak to our editor on
that death before dishonor the exploited and and the zios
are the biggest snitches. Okay, well I don't know about that.

(01:46:35):
We'll see.

Speaker 7 (01:46:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Some guys in Australia had a his pen dog. Some
guys in Australia had a seemingly has bullet What is
a seemingly has bullet flag?

Speaker 12 (01:46:44):
Anyway, it looks like a ball of flag actually up.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
Close, actually a pick of an Australian folk here bush
Ranger Ned Kelly who knew that they were so close?
The likenesses So that will get you prescribed in Australia
running around with an Ed Kelly flag. Be careful, and
we're putting you on notice, guys, Pam Drew. She's saying,
if only the Pentagon spending could be tracked with fine

(01:47:11):
detail of bad thoughts, right, yeah, if I had a
dime for every bad thought in the Pentagon, we'd all
be rich. Here we go. Anybody who doth wear symbols
of witches or articles of witch's clothing will be committing
the offense of witchcraft. There we are, there, we are,
ladies and gentlemen. We've cracked it. We've all been here before,

(01:47:35):
haven't we hash Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:47:37):
Yes, the witch Finder General is now your government, so
have fun with that. This is going to be interesting.

Speaker 10 (01:47:45):
Dunk though, but raise your hand on this call. If
you're a Russian bot.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
That's pretty tame these days. I'll yeah, I mean that
used to get you really canceled. Now being a Russian.

Speaker 5 (01:47:57):
Bots like nothing safe space.

Speaker 12 (01:47:59):
Yeah yeah, I mean.

Speaker 15 (01:48:01):
The problem in Britain is obviously, you know, Zionist infiltration,
not just a government, but a media, seemingly now of
the judiciary as well. People like myself like to use
the term cancer to describe it, because that's what it is.
It's a parasitic ideology that works very directly against the
interests of the British people, quite apart from the poor

(01:48:23):
people of Palestine. We need a complete desionization. This ideology
isn't toxic, it's absolutely evil and this is what needs
to be stated at every opportunity so people are at least,
as Katie Johnson, the Australian journalist, has pointed out recently,
they're losing their fear of speaking up about Israel Palestine.

(01:48:46):
It used to be that you could shut ordinary people
down with a few talking points. You know, it's too
complex and most people don't understand. I don't want to
go there, so on and so forth, But more and
more people now do feel empowered to speak about it,
particularly young people, and there's no putting the genie back
in that bottle in terms of Israel's pariah status across

(01:49:10):
the global South, but also with young people the world over.

Speaker 12 (01:49:14):
That's that's there's no coming back from that.

Speaker 15 (01:49:17):
It may be that we have to wait for the
baby boomers, and I'm one of them, for our generation
to die off or move out of power before we
see any meaningful change. But of course the lobby will
be busy browbeating, blackmailing and bribing, you know, the next generation.
They don't give up easily as we've as we've seen,

(01:49:40):
I mean some people who are even saying Epstein's still
out there blackmailing people from his base in Tel Aviv.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
But that's okay, No, he's probably witnessed protection. He might
be up in Canada. I heard. We'll see when he returns,
out'll be a glorious return of the prodigal sign of
of Zionism there, Brent says. And in eighteen twelve they
came back and have now conquered us. He's talking about
the British. He's not far. You know what, I find

(01:50:07):
a hard time these days separating Israel in Britain on
the deep deep, deep state level unfortunately. So it really,
I mean, they're like this. So who created Israel? It
was Lord Balfour and the Rothschild famous letter that was sent.

(01:50:27):
He provided the funding, the initial funding for it. British
military trained the Haganaut while they were bombing the King
David Hotel and killing British soldiers and figured that one out.
So anyway, so the US is just kind of the
muscle Britain's the brains in Israel's somehow got them both
by the shortened aaris. Hard to figure that one out.

(01:50:51):
So one comment in here says American Dependence Day on Israel.

Speaker 15 (01:50:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean American Independent Stay is a
total joke, isn't it these days? I mean, you tell me,
has Shaid adam Our people in the United States waking
up to the fact that you two live under a
zog Zionist occupied government.

Speaker 5 (01:51:18):
It's a great question, Baz, I'm, i'm. It's definitely growing.
It is swelling, is I don't know if it's bursting
around the seams or not, but there is definitely a
growing skepticism, I would say amongst people that aren't as
deep into the news and geopolitics and all this as

(01:51:40):
we are. But yeah, I mean, just judging by the
comments that we get from our American viewers and listeners,
it's it's definitely becoming much bigger that by trying to
squash the message, it has become a much bigger message.
And how they are planning to manage that going forward

(01:52:03):
is I don't know. It almost feels like it's in
tail spin and there's no way to manage it going forward.
But it also kind of I have this sneaky suspicion
that there is a plan to manage this narrative going forward,
and that may just be what we're talking about today.
It may just be pure rampant or Wellian authoritarianism wielded

(01:52:24):
by technocrats and snitches.

Speaker 10 (01:52:29):
I'llly leuble down on that one.

Speaker 14 (01:52:31):
What Hesher just said, because we're talking about these P
words like prescribed, now the solution here will be another
P word. It's going to be like palenteer. Clearly, that's
the answer to all of these problems. The issue with
the BBC, the artists and I mean, Yeah, the technocracy
is always going to win at the end of the day.
And a lot of these people pushing forward these bills
and these prescriptions are heavily invested in the technocracy, in

(01:52:54):
these solutions to the problems that they're making up. They
used to create real problems wait for us to react,
but now they're just making up problems out of thin air,
putting it on a piece of paper.

Speaker 10 (01:53:03):
It's insane.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
Yeah, and real quick, Pat, we were commenting earlier, I
was riffing off someone in the chat. Thanks for the comment.
They can't arrest everyone, That's true. They can't arrest everyone,
but they can pallunteer everyone. They can spy on everyone,
they can deplatform everyone, they can debank, they can deperson.
Being deplatform, de banked and deep person, some might argue,

(01:53:27):
is worse than going to jail and getting three squares
a day and an hour in the yard.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
Yeah, and you get let out after a few days
because they can't really hold you, Franny, because you haven't
done anything. But getting debanked and being a politically exposed
person of PEP is much worse. Just to ask Steve
Banner or Dustin Stockton. You know, we had on the
show before as well. Basil Rupert Fellows is asking the
UK needs a new witch Finder General. Who would you

(01:53:55):
nominate as the witch Finder General if you had to
choose someone appropriate for the role based on their sort
of person.

Speaker 15 (01:54:04):
Oh, I choose Professor David Miller. He knows where the
bodies are buried, working for the forces of good. Interesting,
I mean I heard that means what else could he
possibly mean? We've already got one working for the forces
of darkness? You know, it's so well him. I mean

(01:54:24):
interesting that the fact that the Maga Wright is splitting.
We had Marjorie Taylor Green, didn't we being interviewed by
Tucker saying what's all this? We had so many bills
prioritizing Israel. And then just in the last forty eight hours,
Tucker has interviewed Posesskian, the new Iranian president, and of
course all the Zionists told pile On who should talk

(01:54:48):
to him. He wants to kill Trump, he wants the
end of America, all the rest of it. So it's
very easy for the good old boys to pile on
on students with foreign sounding names at Columbia and elsewhere
who objected genocide.

Speaker 12 (01:55:07):
It gives them a little bit more to think about if.

Speaker 15 (01:55:10):
They have to attack somebody as obviously one of themselves
as Tucker.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Yeah, they're all. They're all attacking him on X You've
probably seen Tucker's not doing journalism. He's doing you know,
Muslim propaganda or something. It's just people are sown hins.
The New York mayor candidate Mandani. They're calling for him
to be deported, denaturalized. Why you know, driving while Muslim? Basically,

(01:55:41):
I mean whatever, I mean, it's New York. It's New York.
It's a woke city. Come on, what do you expect? Okay,
So here's a comment based on our earlier Basically is Pittsburgh. Dude,
here eighty seven. Robinson's followers are low IQ. Robin himself

(01:56:01):
is laughing all the way to the bank on Zionist cash.
What about that is not true? Anyone?

Speaker 5 (01:56:11):
I got nothing?

Speaker 12 (01:56:13):
Well, I don't, I don't, I don't. You know, we know.

Speaker 15 (01:56:17):
Robinson has been at the forefront of conflating British people's frustrations,
shall we say, with aspects of the Muslim community in Britain,
with Israel's ethnic cleansing and genocide of Muslims.

Speaker 12 (01:56:35):
In the Middle East. I mean, obviously the two are
nothing to do with each other. And if you want
to be.

Speaker 15 (01:56:41):
Rational about it, well, yes we're we the British are
the indigenous people here and they the Palestinians and indigenous
over there. So if it's indigenous the invaders, then he
should be on the side of the Palestinians. But whether
or not he's actually getting paid by the Israelis, I'm
not sure. I haven't seen his bank statements. He claims

(01:57:03):
that he isn't, but he might as well be at
this point.

Speaker 14 (01:57:06):
And people from Pittsburgh need to be careful when traveling
because there's another Pa, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 15 (01:57:17):
Ruckus is referring to the newly prescribed Organizationyvania Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
We are all Pennsylvania, now right, We're all from I mean,
you do feel sorry all anyway for people from Pennsylvania
because they elected John Fetterman as their senator. So I've
got tons of sympathy for them. Here we go, we
are we are certainly in C. S. Lewis is that
hideous strength territory now, so alluding to something in C. S.

(01:57:49):
Lewis novel. He's brilliant, By the way, C. S. Lewis.
Some of his political writings are pretty incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:57:57):
One of our I gotta I gotta give a shout
out here, one of our boiler room members, Based lit
Analyzer has been doing a cs Lewis series of live
streams on his YouTube channels. So if you're a C. S.
Lewis enjoyer, become a based lit Analyzer Enjoyer also.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
Based lit Analyzer on Alternate Current Radio interesting CS Lewis series.
We'll have to tap into that.

Speaker 10 (01:58:21):
I like the other question I've been wondering about this.

Speaker 14 (01:58:24):
When we're prescribing support those things that are in support
of a prescribed terrorist organization, I would suggest that the
entire second half of the Bible could be considered that
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well let's not go there, Ruckus. That
is really wading into the deep weeds of anti Semitism.
Big trouble, says Jiulani. Type you see everyone's making this typo. Now,
it's just like a virus. I know what's going on here?
What's wrong with these people? Here we go? Trump said,

(01:58:57):
Julani is very handsome, but Mandanni is bad looking. I
think Mandonnie's probably better looking than Jilani. I mean, I'm
obligated to say that because one is is the former
head of al Qaeda and deputy of Ices, so I
can't say he's good looking. But Donald Trump did.

Speaker 5 (01:59:20):
Is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
I didn't get that. What was that?

Speaker 5 (01:59:23):
There's no there's nothing good looking about looking into the eyes,
looking into the window of the soul to someone who
has decapitated people.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
I'm sorry, listen, guys, that was borderline a homo erotic
comment by the president. I was very uncomfortable with that,
very very uncomfortable, and it made it really scrambled me.
It was a scrambler. It was a great Trump scrambler there.
It made me think, like, what's going on here? What's
going on? It? Really that really rocked my mental constitution. Okay,

(01:59:56):
let's not leave Europe out of this guy's As you know,
they love their censorship. The sensorship happens in several EU countries.
It seems coordinated, your damn rights coordinated. This is just
the beginning. Criticizing NATO next will be considered hate speech.
So I think at some point, guys, calling just being

(02:00:17):
anti war is going to be akin to being a terrorist.
I mean, do you think we'll get that far.

Speaker 5 (02:00:23):
On this wouldn't that be ironic because if that were
to happen, we would go back and have all these
you know, old tweets before it was x from Donald
Trump talking about how NATO is terrible and NATO should
be shut down and we should leave NATO. I mean
he made it. He went on a bender back in
his first term about NATO. So yeah, I wouldn't be

(02:00:45):
surprised though, Klaus.

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
Yep. So the idea of Patrick that they were talking
about Australia, they're protesting but kind of punking the cops
with the hes Bolas stroke Ned Kelly fag Yeah, I
mean that's totally clever. Aussies are crafty. I'm glad they
pulled that one out. There's lucky they had the Ned
Kelly flag in their sort of historical you know, visual

(02:01:09):
toolbox there, graphical toolbox. That's pretty cool. Ned Kelly's got
kind of cool. I think Basil dropped off. He's gonna
we'll bring him back on stage there he is. Okay,
I'll just go through a couple of these comments and
we'll get some some final thoughts. Guys here, let me
see someone I just put this up just gratuitously craft work.

(02:01:30):
Let's just say craft work, just the alluding to the
great techno legends that just came out of nowhere. Jask
one rat craft work? How random is that? So? Yeah,
craft works, badass. I prefer craft work over daft punk. Yeah,
me too, any day of the week. Okay, here we go, right,

(02:01:54):
mother goose three? Two wings of the same bird. The
City of London is the financial wing, and the US
is the military wing. The bangsters and thugs are the US, yes,
and the spiritual wing is the Vatican. But Tel Aviv
is both. It is both the military and the spiritual wing. Now,
so somehow they're trying to pull the center of gravity

(02:02:16):
there over of the New World Order over to Jerusalem.
Go figure. That is exactly some of the bigger, binding,
all encompassing conspiracy theories I've read as well about end
times eschatology, the Antichrist, and all the rest of it.
As be d Man was saying, are we looking at

(02:02:38):
the end times? A lot of people are talking about
biblical eschatological things these days. That is just okay, this
is a good quick breakout question here. I want to
get your guys thoughts on this, and then we'll probably
wrap this up. We'll go for a couple more comments,
then we'll wrap it up. I'll go to Basil first, Basil,

(02:03:00):
what's going on in Gaza. It's to me it's biblical,
because what's biblical is not the horror, it is bad,
the horror, but the reaction against Israel and the reaction
against the kind of previously impregnable international Jewish narrative is
now just completely in tatters, and they're completely you know,

(02:03:26):
on the back heels, and it's like I could never
have imagined that could happen because the propaganda had been
laid on multi layereds so thick over the decades. That
to me is biblical because that's pretty much half the
Old Testament is basically God and Moses waving his finger,
the proverbial holy finger at them saying, what are you

(02:03:49):
guys doing? So your thoughts on this, Basil, I mean,
the eschatological narratives are now have now come to the forefront.

Speaker 15 (02:03:58):
What do you think, Well, you've got idiots like Mike
Huckabee representing supposedly the United States in Israel now in Jerusalem,
of course, after the embassy was moved from Tel Aviv
and he's some sort of millennialist. He wants to bring
about the second coming of Jesus Christ, and he thinks

(02:04:21):
that Israel plays a pivotal role in that. You know, Minakowsky,
the guy who renamed himself with a more Hebrew sounding name,
the war criminal, who, for some bizarre reason is still
sort of quoted in newspapers and referenced by politicians as
if he was a respectable human being and the leader

(02:04:41):
of an ordinary democratic country. He's a mass murderer, he's
a child killer. He of course used the term amalk
to describe all Palestinians. And I've seen clips just today
from various other Jewish Israeli spokespeople, Rabbis leaders saying, look,

(02:05:05):
you know, according to the Torah, according to our doctrine,
everybody in Gaza is the enemy. Every last baby, every
child has to be killed. We have to lay waste
to it.

Speaker 12 (02:05:17):
And that's exactly what they've been doing.

Speaker 15 (02:05:19):
So we've got this bizarre dichotomy where on the one hand,
Israelis are being very open about the fact that they
are committing genocide. They want to commit genocide, They want
to completely eraise Gaza and all its inhabitants, from the map,
and then you get the version that sort of presented
in the West, where it's sort of, oh well, if

(02:05:40):
only they a mass would turn the hostages. Israeli's only
defending itself and this or all the other sort of
talking points to try and cover up the horror.

Speaker 12 (02:05:52):
But I disagree with you.

Speaker 15 (02:05:53):
I think the horror is biblical in its scale. We
cannot imagine how what a hellscape has been created. There
was a French surgeon recently left. He was published in Haretz.
You know, it's impossible to conceive just how awful it

(02:06:14):
is there.

Speaker 12 (02:06:16):
And of course, the arguably the most obsceen.

Speaker 15 (02:06:22):
Talking point to come from the anti Muslim right, both
Jewish and Gentile here in Britain and the United States
is well, look, none of the other Arab countries want
the Palestinians because they're such.

Speaker 12 (02:06:40):
Awful, horrible people. They can't go.

Speaker 15 (02:06:43):
You know, why don't they go to Egypt and Jordan
and these places. The reason they're not wanted because they're
so awful, So therefore we might as well kill them all.
Believe it or not, that is actually where we are.
So in some ways, that is the end of the world.
It's the end of the civilized world. It's very, very
difficult to engage with people who have that kind of mentality,

(02:07:07):
you know, all for that matter, people who say, when
you start talking about the massacres taking place at the
so called food distribution points, you hear is Rady saying,
we're not obliged to feed the Gazans.

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
We're not obliged to let any food, water or you know, electricity,
and we're not obliged to not bomb internet cafes where
journalists are working. We're not obliged to not do any
of that. Yeah, the horrors and guys are our biblical
Basil didn't misunderstand me there. I was just saying. Additionally,

(02:07:47):
the backlash against the Israelis against world jewelry, if you will,
is quite extraordinary and could somewhat shift. I think the
paradigm of power hesher and ruckus go. I'll go to
both of you in that order. Have you heard a
lot of Biblical references to what's going on as being

(02:08:10):
the end times or this is a we're getting close
to the final battle, i e. You know, revelations, Islamic
eschatology has almost the same narrative, et cetera. What do
you what are you guys hearing hesher go first and
then rugus.

Speaker 5 (02:08:28):
I see it a lot, you know, I see a
lot of people. There's sort of a resurgence in the
prepping community. Uh, you know, there's and it doesn't seem
to be COVID related or anything like that. You know
that certainly you know, shifted a lot of people's you know,
worldview or assemblage point if you will. But yeah, I'm

(02:08:51):
definitely seeing a lot of that. I'm seeing a lot
of the the old profiteers coming out, you know and
riding on top of that looking to sell their food
buckets and you know this and that, and their their
medicine packs and all that stuff. So there's a marketing
aspect that's tied into it that confuses it a little bit.

(02:09:12):
But I do see a lot of you know, just
normal accounts out there on the internet talking about it.
I don't have a whole lot of people in my
you know, irl scene in my real life aside from
you know, you guys and a couple of people that
that think that way. But I do come across a
lot of people that are sort of just you know,
have accepted that there could be anything could happen. It

(02:09:35):
could be a financial collapse, it could be you know,
great floods, could be anything, could be.

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
Yeah, having a great flood in Texas at the moment, yeah,
we had.

Speaker 5 (02:09:46):
We had a couple of people in the chat asking
for an update on that, and don't I don't have
an update. All I can say is it happened. And
fifty seven people last I saw had lost their lives
and fifteen wow, girls were missing. They've mostly been pulling
doing rescue and recovery, recovery of bodies and rescue of

(02:10:09):
people that you know, fortunately survived some really harrowing stories.
The footage like one of the places this hit the
worst was in happened to be a floodplaine where there
was a summer camp going on, and it was in
the middle of the night. It was like two thirty
in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
So that that.

Speaker 5 (02:10:29):
Particular river we spoke with a local yesterday, it usually
only has about three feet of water in it, and
so much water felt it was like an Olympic sized
swimming pool every three seconds or something like that. That
the floodplaine just just got nasty. I mean, it's crazy
the amount of cars and damage.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
If I'm not mistaken, hesher up to seventy feet from
three feet to seventy feet in an hour.

Speaker 5 (02:10:57):
Yeah, right in the middle of the night, and no
one there was no warning or anything like that. If
there were weather people were saying, we didn't know it
was going to be this bad, you know, And even
if there had been warnings, the timing may have just
been a tragedy anyways. So that really kind of put
a damper on Fourth of July here in Texas. Odd

(02:11:19):
to be having so much rain in July in Texas,
at least for us, it seems that way. And also,
since we're doing a Fourth of July recap real quick here,
I'd like to point out that over fifty people were
shot in Chicago. Six killed. We had six fatal injuries,

(02:11:41):
including a sixteen year old girl and a fifteen year
old boy. Multiple others gunned down in mass shootings and
drive bys across the city. When they say mass shootings,
they really mean gang shootings and youth shootings. But yeah,
victims ranging from teenagers to adults, people sitting in part cars.
You know, That's what happened in Chicago this weekend. And

(02:12:04):
it's a it's a blip on the radar. So yeah,
well did they have only fifty?

Speaker 10 (02:12:12):
It was a slow year.

Speaker 1 (02:12:13):
I guess this time our weekend. Yeah. In Chicago. On
the movie sets, production assistants are called PA's crypton Steele
another dangerous profession. There to be a PA on a
movie set terrorist basically according to the British government. And

(02:12:33):
just to round it off here a ruckus on their
biblical front. You have any thoughts on that, I mean,
any observations, heard, any talk about.

Speaker 10 (02:12:42):
Quite quite a few.

Speaker 14 (02:12:44):
I'm actually exploring the idea of dedicating an entire show,
or maybe even a series of the Daily Ruckus to
this topic because I find it to be very fundamental
to what we're experiencing right now.

Speaker 10 (02:12:55):
If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?

Speaker 14 (02:12:58):
That's a quote from the Bible, And what I just
did there is to quote something out of context from
the Bible to prove a point. In this case, I'm just,
you know, expressing my opinion on a radio program. It's
no big deal. But when you do those types of
things to then further an agenda that affects the entire
planet and ultimately is costing people's lives innocence. I find

(02:13:21):
the whole thing disgusting to use Christianity to defend things
that are very anti Christian i e. The killing, the death,
and the support of all this stuff. We're supposed to
turn the other cheek. We're supposed to welcome the enemy.
We're supposed to love thy neighbor and everybody and everything.
And the message is completely lost in all of this.
But this doesn't surprise me. The United States of America
has a serious problem here. They like to run around

(02:13:43):
pretending like it's a Christian nation.

Speaker 10 (02:13:46):
Of some sort like this.

Speaker 14 (02:13:47):
No, what's important about this country is that we don't
have any official affiliation with any religion. That's how the
founding father set it up that way, and they put
it in the Constitution and all that stuff about how
you know, the separation of church and state, which everybody
gets wrong. It's supposed to be the government is not
supposed to issue any official religion or religious doctrine because

(02:14:09):
you know you're gonna have problems like this, and here
we are having this problem. The problem is most people
in America, whether they're Christian or they're not, or they
say they are or they aren't, they have this identity
attached to them.

Speaker 10 (02:14:19):
So even if they don't even believe in God. When
it comes to these things, when it's.

Speaker 14 (02:14:23):
Another foreign country's bizarre religion like Buddhism or Muslim and
Islam and all this stuff, they just latch onto it
as part of their American identity and they the only
thing they know is what they hear in the news.
So it's repeated in the news from these preachers, the televangelists,
and all of them were from their existence, were heavily
inbedded with the Zionist narrative. They're all scho Field Bible

(02:14:47):
type people. And you have to do a lot of
research into this. People, especially if you're a believer, don't
blindly believe that this is what you're supposed to believe.
You're supposed to do the research yourself and look in
the Bible. And the tricky part gets with this. What
they're using to day is they're saying, this is a
sign of things that are about to happen in the future.
Here's your proof, and it's the Bible eschatology, the interpretation

(02:15:09):
of proscribed prophecies. And the thing is, when you do
a lot of research and you realize the early church
fathers like this is a new concept. It's only just
in our lifetimes that this has become a thing. Early
Christians understood that none of this, like what those things meant.
They understood what Revelation was talking about. A lot of
these prophecies are things that were in the future from

(02:15:30):
the time that they were prophesied, but they've already come true,
and a lot of people like misinterpret them and use
them again to further an agenda. So I encourage you,
if you're interested in this, explore other options. Learn what
maybe revelation means. Learn what the prophecies from Daniel might
really mean, and whether or not is that what we're
about to face in the future or is this something
that already took place. And you know, again, if you're

(02:15:53):
a believer, listen to the words of Jesus Christ, if
that's who you believe in, what you believe, and you
say you believe he said, no one, no one, not
even him, knows the time and when the Father's going
to come. Like and if you can sit here and
analyze and do the Bible codes, a lot this means
and the red Heffer that's it.

Speaker 10 (02:16:08):
He's come. No, you don't know none of that. He's
going to come like that when you're least expecting it.

Speaker 14 (02:16:13):
So all of this is pointless and useless, and it's
just furthering a Satanic agenda at the end of the day.

Speaker 10 (02:16:19):
That's all I wanted to say about it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:20):
Yeah, like a thief in the night, Like a thief
in the night. Yep. So christian Zie is now the
official religion of the USA. Some might argue that's the
case if you look at the current Zog government. There
by Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, What are we going to
do with maga? Guys? Laura Lumer is getting a lot
of mentions in the comments. I can't post all of

(02:16:41):
them because they're not family friendly. We'll just leave it there.

Speaker 14 (02:16:46):
But there is one other elephant in the room that
I had to ask you about. Patrick the new political
party in America.

Speaker 1 (02:16:54):
Oh, I'm so glad you brought this up, Ruckus. I
meant to talk about it earlier, and I'm getting vibes
and they're not good vibes. I'll bring it up on screen.
I have the tweet, I have the tweet from the
dear leader. Hold only bring this up for a moment.
I mean, clear some space on the deck, right, let's

(02:17:14):
bring this up. So Elon Musk, who has fallen out
with his bro Donald Trump recently. So he's launching this
new party. No donors, no puppets, no strings, just a
party built on common sense, not consultants, The America Party.

(02:17:35):
Very creative name. I have to give it to him.
He really dug deep on this one. I have three
words to describe this. I mean, he's even using an
AI generated image. So guys, fake and gay, yeah, one
hundred percent. But it is sort of a seed.

Speaker 5 (02:17:58):
You know, I've been saying on other in for years,
it's just a matter of time before we have a
technocrat party or technocrats invade our parties. And this is
exactly that kind of nerd fan fantasy right here. This
is fantasy fantasy politics right here. But the message, you know,

(02:18:21):
is something we should be concerned about. This is another
thing we've been talking about ever since inauguration. Why are
all these technocrats part of the White House now?

Speaker 1 (02:18:32):
So? Oh yeah, okay, how about this, I'll throw it
back to the to the panel. Elon Musk, career Democrat
supported John Kerry, Barack Obama one point zero, Barack Obama
two point zero, back Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, back
to Biden in twenty twenty and then all of a

(02:18:53):
sudden became like a mega conservative guy. Right, So he
does this and he splits the vote. Whose votes are
going to split? Is he going to split the Democrat
vote or the Republican vote. It's going to be the
Republican vote. Who's going to benefit from that? Democrats? Elon
Elon Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it? Now?

Speaker 12 (02:19:18):
He said that.

Speaker 15 (02:19:19):
He said that what he wants to do is target
a small number of Senate and Congressional seats. It's not
going to be a nationwide party. But what they want
to do is break up the duopoly. So if they
could get say half a dozen Senators and deprive either
Democrats or Republicans of an overall majority. Likewise, in Congress,

(02:19:42):
if they could get twenty or thirty members of Congress,
then they would have enough representation to hold the balance
of power.

Speaker 12 (02:19:51):
Now what they do with it, that's another matter.

Speaker 15 (02:19:53):
But in principle, I'm not opposed to the idea of
breaking up the duopoly of the uniparty as people call it.
I mean, in Britain, we've got a new left party
about to be launched by former Labor MP Zara Sultana
and Jeremy Corbyn, both of whom now sit in the
House of Commons as independence of reform who you know, five.

Speaker 12 (02:20:16):
Years ago didn't even exist.

Speaker 15 (02:20:18):
It looks set to possibly form the next government in
Britain with the most successful political organization in the history
of modern civilization, the Conservative Party of the United Kingdom
of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, possibly reduced to a
rump of a couple of dozen seats, so change is possible.

(02:20:39):
I don't necessarily support Musk, of course not. I've no
idea what his platform is. But if something can be
done to break up a platform, abound a bit. But
if something can be done to break up the Zionist
controlled hegemony in the United States, I'm not saying Musk
is the man to do it, but anything surely is

(02:21:01):
a step in the right direction at this point.

Speaker 1 (02:21:04):
Be careful what you wish for met never say anything
that these people honestly have we not learned anything.

Speaker 12 (02:21:11):
Half from an aviation says what about the Workers Party?
I'm a big fan.

Speaker 15 (02:21:15):
I consider Chris Williamson, the deputy leader, to be a
friend and we'll have him on I'll be talking to
him again very soon on the air, most likely on
the new station at Unprecedented TV. The problem that the
Workers Party have gotten, that the New Corbyn Sultana Party

(02:21:36):
have got is combating the legacy media who are determined.
I mean that the new that the New Zara Sultana
Corbin Party has been dubbed by Jewish influencers already the
National Anti Zionist Initiative Nazi na ZI, that's what they're

(02:21:57):
calling it.

Speaker 12 (02:21:57):
They're going to, you know, for.

Speaker 15 (02:22:00):
Wanting to speak up for civil rights, against genocide and
redistribution of wealth in favor of the poor fairer society.

Speaker 12 (02:22:10):
Apparently you're a Nazi.

Speaker 1 (02:22:15):
Wow, that's gonna split the labor vote. Maybe you'll give
the Tories a chance. I'm still waiting for reform Parage
to come up with a policy besides immigration, like they haven't.
There's no economic plan, there's no foreign policy, just no
more immigrants. That's that's pretty much it for Parage. That's

(02:22:35):
not really a platform, is it. They didn't even bother
with the platform anymore, do they. It's just politics. It's politics,
the new politics. They don't care.

Speaker 14 (02:22:45):
Can anyone start a new political party in the United
States of America or do you have to be the
world's richest techno dude.

Speaker 1 (02:22:51):
Yeah, no, no donors, but either world's richest guy. And
I'm bankrolling the party. Yeah, it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 10 (02:22:57):
I'm going to start going to do it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:59):
You can do it. Free country. That's what's great about
this country planet.

Speaker 14 (02:23:05):
And I'm going to start a party here in the
United States of America and I'm going to call it
the Free Palestine Party. That way we will once again
be prescribed as terrorists from the British government.

Speaker 10 (02:23:15):
That'd be fun.

Speaker 1 (02:23:16):
Yeah, the PA, Yeah, called the Yeah, PA's revenge. I
don't know, just a picture of John Fetterman.

Speaker 4 (02:23:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:23:28):
I mean.

Speaker 15 (02:23:28):
What the Musk thing does, Yeah, what the Musk thing
does is illustrait that the United States is a plutocracy,
is governed by the rich.

Speaker 12 (02:23:39):
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 15 (02:23:40):
Like I said, you know, Musk can start a new
party because he's just multi multi billionaire, so he can
afford to bankrupt. That doesn't necessarily mean that he will
afford to bankroll it. I mean whether or not the
ideas of any sort of grassroots support obviously not a
grassroots organized that's all completely on irrelevant because American politics

(02:24:04):
is run by money.

Speaker 12 (02:24:05):
Here and simple.

Speaker 1 (02:24:06):
Huffman aviation says Farage was an investment banker. Another typo,
another typo. Right there, folks, all right, here we go,
Lord Musk, Lord Musk. Well he certainly thinks he is.
It's just the dorkiness of it all. Elon Musk has
no principles there I see, no no ideolgical, no philosophical,

(02:24:31):
nothing nothing. He literally just shows up, throws his money in,
and then you know he likes just sit there and
suck up the adulation, makes stupid jokes, put putting out
stupid mems and platforming all the biggest whankers like Tommy Robinson.

(02:24:51):
You could you could possibly imagine that's what that's that's
what Musk does. His politics are a disaster. So so,
so we have a.

Speaker 5 (02:25:00):
A cacistockist cacustocracy. Then we have a cacistocracy running rough
shot over a plutocratic system. Then so a cacustocracy is
a government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.

(02:25:21):
In other words, governments run by the worst people.

Speaker 1 (02:25:26):
This didn't age well, did it, guys?

Speaker 5 (02:25:29):
I think it's aging fantastically.

Speaker 1 (02:25:32):
Think So there he is at the AfD rally. It
is the most important election in the history of the planet.

Speaker 5 (02:25:40):
Remember that this is where he got the gold chainsaw.

Speaker 1 (02:25:43):
No, that was at sea pack all right, right after that.
But of course, you know he'll never ever be able
to He will never live it down. He'll never live
it down as much as he tries. Not once, but
the double Roman. He did a double Roman Roman squared.

(02:26:05):
So he's this guy is a disaster. Anyway, When are
we going to be done with him? Who knows? He'll
still be lingering. I think he loved the limelight that
Trump gave him. He really did, and Trump used him
as well, and Trump kind of looked stupid in the
process too. Here's Elon and Little X. Little X. You know, Elon,

(02:26:30):
how'd you get that black guy? Well, it turns out
my three year old can pull it swing pretty hard
and got a black eye. No, no, you got beat
up by the Treasury secretary who's gay. You got beat
up by a gay man, Elon in a suit. That's
not a good look for the alpha male arch conservative.

(02:26:52):
This week, Elon musk. Next week he will be a technocrat.
He'll be He'll be a Democrat. Who knows? Yeah, I mean,
how are you going to fund the Mars trip? How
are we going to fund the Mars trip? Meme coin?
What do you think?

Speaker 5 (02:27:12):
What are we gonna do? With the better question? What
are we gonna do without the Mars trip? What would
we do if someone wasn't going to Mars?

Speaker 1 (02:27:19):
I mean, wow, he said it needs to happen now,
but before it's too late. Is there something about to
happen that we need to know about.

Speaker 5 (02:27:27):
Yeah, a lot of those cryptic, ominous comments what is
that all about? And the behaviors from a lot of
the plutocrats and cacistocrats out there, you know. I mean,
look at twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, for example,
the behavior of elected people and famous people has gone

(02:27:49):
off the rails. It's such that they don't It feels
as though there's a weird zeitgeist deal change among that
upper echelon of people. If you can grit your teeth
and accept that as a descriptor for them, that they
don't have to worry about being re elected past a
certain amount of time, or that they don't have to
worry about their wealth after a certain amount of time,

(02:28:10):
or that they don't have to worry about their legacy
there just seems to be this like passing away of
those sort of things, and that's maybe I'm over analyzing it,
but it seems to me that might.

Speaker 12 (02:28:24):
Be cause, Oh, I think you're right.

Speaker 15 (02:28:26):
A lot of the sort of mores the what we
consider to be even previously pretty low standards in public life,
of whether it's accuracy in reporting, you know, journalism has
gone through the floorboards, corporate media, just government stenographers these days.

(02:28:47):
And yeah, totally unprincipled as well.

Speaker 12 (02:28:50):
The gloves.

Speaker 15 (02:28:51):
The gloves are off, the gloves and the masks are off,
aren't they. You know, the real horror of the people
who governess has been revealed in the last couple of years,
and people are no longer it seems afraid to say so.
But this is as a result, has led us to
the cusp of this global awakening, which is the most
optimistic thing there is out there.

Speaker 12 (02:29:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:29:13):
Okay, I'd like Elon to go to Mars, says Daz.
He can take some others with him. Okay, on that note,
quick fire around and we will wrap it up. But
I want to hear from our audience on this. If
if we have to send anyone to Mars, who is
going to Mars. Give me your answers right now in
the comments, and we will display and feature the best answers,

(02:29:38):
and just just keep it simple. One person, which one
person would you put? Would you reserve a seat on
the Mars mission? Besos Musk providing the rockets? It doesn't matter.
There's seats available, limited seats. Let's send one hundred. Who
would you send? Go ahead, give us the names, folks,

(02:30:00):
let it rip. Let's go coming from fast Trump, Ben Shapiro. Wow, Okay,
that's gonna be a popular one.

Speaker 7 (02:30:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:30:12):
You guys couldn't have guessed the next one. I'm sure
you wouldn't have expected that right there? Certainly not. Rabbi Schmooley,
you got it. How about this Lauren Sanchez? Who is she?
Do you guys know who?

Speaker 5 (02:30:24):
She's Bezos's new wife.

Speaker 1 (02:30:27):
Yeah, she's already made made a little test run, didn't she.
Yeah there, yep, yeah. Zuckerberg was really giving her the
the up and down at the inauguration. Boris Johnson yep, yeah,
I don't know. It's probably not worth his seat to be.
To be quite honest, he's mildly annoying but fairly harmless

(02:30:49):
at this point Photon says Peter theal Peter thel who
apparently doesn't want the human race to survive. Did you
guys catch that? Yeah, yeah, recent interview. That was that disturbing.

Speaker 5 (02:30:59):
Y'd rather be associated with the Antichrist than humanity.

Speaker 14 (02:31:03):
Just carrying on, I guess, But it's okay because he
doesn't think he's the Antichrist, So are fine.

Speaker 1 (02:31:10):
Pretty much, you know, pretty much unanimous here, Nathan Yahoo,
I mean one way ticket yep. That goes without saying
we're not going to sue a return ticket with it.
It's just not gonna happen. Michael Rapaport. Yeah, that's a
good call right there. In fact, I would I don't know.
I don't know about that. I don't know. He might

(02:31:32):
not be worth it. I kind of like him. He's
actually doing a favor by showing what an absolute horrible
person he is and what he stands for. He's actually
doing his cause a lot of harm, which is good,
generally good. Okay, Joe Biden not even worth the seat? No,

(02:31:58):
Larry Fink, what do you go? I think?

Speaker 12 (02:32:00):
Is that good candidate? Yeah? Yeah, I think we should
just send the entire population of Israel.

Speaker 1 (02:32:08):
Yeah, you know, you say Bill Gates here. I don't
think that's necessary. Bill's kind of out of the game,
isn't he Is he out of the game yet, he's
really damaged by the whole he went for broke didnty
during the whole vaccine hysteria. He really thought he was
going to get his whatever dystopic vision of the world.

(02:32:29):
We're all gonna be eating fake meat by now, but
it didn't happen. Although they're getting there, meat's getting expensive, okay,
Starmer Milakowski, that's again, that's in Yahoo. Roger Waters. No,
he's not going to send him up there unless he
wants to go, but not with them. Lammy, Yep, he's

(02:32:50):
probably in there. Alex Karp, Yeah, that's what do you think,
Alex Carp.

Speaker 5 (02:32:55):
Alex Karp, Peter til both those guys, Larry Ellison, Elon Musk,
the whole tech bro crew, they're the ones that want
it anyways, right, I mean, they should be signing up
to be the first people to go there.

Speaker 1 (02:33:10):
Starmer, I don't think Starmar's worth a seat. He might
not be in office by Christmas Basel that's what I heard.
I heard West Reatings taking over. Starmar's becoming a liability.
Marianna Spring she can report on it. I wouldn't put
her on the rocket. I quite like having her around
because she makes the BBC look really bad, so she's

(02:33:30):
kind of useful in that respect. Again, Soros, how you
know he's he's kind of done now this Rupert Fellows
has come through in the clutch. Right there, guys, yep,
right there, Mark Levine, the Why would be a better

(02:33:51):
place if he was on Mars. What do you think
his mouth could fuel the mission on its own? Yeah,
the amount of hot air that guy generates.

Speaker 10 (02:34:00):
Are we trying to start a war with the Martians
or something, because that would be.

Speaker 1 (02:34:04):
They could do.

Speaker 12 (02:34:06):
Very good.

Speaker 1 (02:34:07):
I said, I don't know if I said this on
the show, but I mean if Elon went and just
imagine he gets to Mars and the Martians show up
and they're all black, that would really be a shock
for Elon, wouldn't it. Alan Desowitz, Ah, is it worth
a seat? Is it worth a seat? I know that's tempting. God.

Speaker 5 (02:34:32):
That's the thing with like Dershowitz and Gates and Fauci,
there's like a whole bunch of people that have been
the mouthpiece for various forms of tyranny that have affected
a lot of people in pretty profound ways over the years.
So I could see a lot of disdain for those characters.

(02:34:52):
Get them off my planet, you know, even though they
may not be as as effective, they may not be
like you know, on the top of the threat list
right now. I think there's there's a lot of just
general disdain for that ghoul creature crowd. Same with you know,
Schwab and a lot of those guys creative accidents.

Speaker 1 (02:35:11):
Yeah, seconds, Mark Levine, And again it's the the reason
Mark Levine is a good choice is because of the
double you know, the sort of double benefit. You get
rid of him and he can fuel the mission just
from the perspiration on his forehead. So that's a double
benefit against sustainability factors in there. Laura Lumer, what do

(02:35:33):
you guys think is should should she have the privilege
of seeing marsh.

Speaker 5 (02:35:39):
You know, I would go with Nicki Haley over Laura Lumer.
You know Nicki Haley. Of course she wanted to ban
TikTok because it was getting the message out about what
was going on in in Gaza, and she went out
and she signed some some bombs to drop there. Said
the she went. She kneeled down in front of a

(02:36:02):
bomb and wrote America Heart Israel, you know something like that,
go get him, something like that, and then dropped the bomb.
And you know, who knows?

Speaker 1 (02:36:14):
Who knows what I think? I think she should be
able to emigrate to a kabbutz in Israel. I think
that would be better for Nikki rather than take up
a valuable seat on this glorious rocket chip that we're
assembling here. I think this is pretty much a slam dunk.
What do you guys think? Right here? Rupert Fellows again,

(02:36:36):
he here's Morgan. You need media there to cover it, right?

Speaker 5 (02:36:38):
Yeah, good call.

Speaker 1 (02:36:41):
It is going to be a one way mission, folks,
just telling you Elon can't even run this app on X.
Do you think he's going to be able to do
this mission properly? I don't think so. So I think
it's a one way mission. So again, Tony Blair, Tony
Blair is just kind of I don't know, he's Yeah,
he does damage, but he's slightly on the decline, I

(02:37:05):
would say, in terms of his powers of influence, so
some ghoulish. Yes, the long hair is weird, but somewhat Yeah,
here we go either Zelensky or Macron. Okay, okay, fine,
John McGuire wants to throw up a choice here, right, guys,
Hobson's choice Zelensky or Macron. We'll go around and take

(02:37:28):
a vote. Hesher, I'm gonna go with Macron. Just I'm
feeling the Macron vibes right now. I'm with you on that.
I don't mean to sway anybody's vote, but I'm with Esher.
I think mccron definitely definitely.

Speaker 14 (02:37:43):
Ruckus Zelenski, but only if he's playing a different character,
like he thinks he's Matt Damon or something.

Speaker 1 (02:37:50):
That interesting twist. Hmm, Ruckus using the uh, the the
acting angle there, with Lensky being a qualified actor, of course,
you can do that. Basil Zelenski or Macron.

Speaker 15 (02:38:05):
Zelensky by a country mile. I mean, Macron is reported
to be putting pressure on the British government to recognize
the state of Palestine. Now, I mean, although that'd be
a largely sort of symbolic move, it won't have wind
up the Israelis. So anybody who wants to wind up
the Israelis isn't all bad in my book, whereas Zelenski

(02:38:26):
is completely hopeless that's.

Speaker 1 (02:38:29):
A two two vote. That's a split vote, guys, that's
we need a tie breaker, or or there's an option here,
or we let me think we put Mark Levine on
the tarmac just to basically, so you need someone the
last minute to wipe off the rocket engines to make

(02:38:50):
sure that no ice is forming. It's a dangerous job.
Of course, we could put Levin on that job, and
then we could have Zelenski and Macron on there. And
they both like each other a lot, as you know,
so they definitely keep each other company for that long mission.
And they're both like five foot four, all right, Macron's
five six, Selenski's five to four, So there is space

(02:39:13):
there for both of them.

Speaker 5 (02:39:14):
Actually, well, I don't know, because Macron's not allowed to
go anywhere without that one guy. What's what's his name,
Brigitte Bridget.

Speaker 1 (02:39:22):
Yeah, he got brick. So this is going to be
a unanimous slam dunk. I don't think anybody's going to
vote against this one Bono from you two, what do
you think deserves to go? He deserves to go. He's
you know, he's he's always been there at every historic

(02:39:43):
major event. You know, Bono has always been there, right,
so he he should be on this mission, King Charles.
I don't think so. I think he's what. No, I
don't think so.

Speaker 5 (02:39:56):
I got one.

Speaker 1 (02:39:58):
Go ahead, Katie Perry.

Speaker 5 (02:39:59):
How no one said Katie Perry yet, let's send her.

Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
She did that. She did the walk through with uh
with with dirty Sanchez on Bezos' rocket. That the little
fake little mission there, you rascal Jamie Raskin outside her there,
that's a little bit of a dark horse. Okay, we'll

(02:40:25):
take a couple of more. There's a couple of seats
left on this mission.

Speaker 10 (02:40:28):
What about King John un because he's the rocket man.

Speaker 1 (02:40:32):
He's gonna he should have I don't know, like I
like Kim. I think Kim is a badass. What do
you think he kind of is?

Speaker 5 (02:40:40):
He's probably my favorite fake c I a dictator of
all of them. So yeah, he can stay.

Speaker 1 (02:40:46):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (02:40:46):
He plays Xbox with Rodman and and you know, I mean,
how could that be bad?

Speaker 1 (02:40:51):
Kim?

Speaker 10 (02:40:51):
When his soldiers die? Apparently that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:40:54):
He's looking a lot better than Trump now in terms
of a statesman. Whoa there is a okay, two seats left.
Let's just wrap this up. We've only got two vacant
seats on this mission, so one way ticket to Mars. Obviously,
we think that certain people deserve to go because of
their you know, their profile and there. I think elites
deserve to see Mars, even if they're not coming back.

(02:41:18):
What do you think, Lindsay Graham, Yes, get rid of
I endorsed this, yep.

Speaker 10 (02:41:25):
Well, but he would probably want to bomb the Red
planet and that he.

Speaker 1 (02:41:30):
Would, yeah if he Yeah, imagine if the Iranians got
their first and already colonized it. That'd be kind of
a downer for Lindsay. Okay, one more. Oh, this is guys,
it's going to be so hard. There's some big names
that have been put in here, so I'm gonna have
to I'm gonna have to do an executive move. I'm

(02:41:53):
gonna have to pick one. Wow, there's some big names,
big names. They're coming in now. The good ones are
coming in, guys, I'll name you the ones. I think
that we're gonna have to pass on. John Fetterman. I
like John Fetterman where he is because he discredits his
party and himself so wonderfully that he needs to stay

(02:42:16):
and do that work. Ursula Vanderlin. That is tempting, but
she's kind of she's halfway out the door at the moment. Okay,
So I'm going to do an executive pick here, guys,
and this is this is it, this is it full mission.
Last seat on the on the ship here, last seat
right there, right there, Jordan B. Peterson. And it makes

(02:42:41):
perfect sense because you need a psychoanalyst to be on
that mission with all of those people that we're talking about.
You need somebody there, you know, to remind them to
make their damn bed in the morning and kind of
keep things nice and daily wired, you know. Jordan B. Peterson.

(02:43:05):
That's it. That's it. The mission has done, folks. That's it.
We have our we have our mission to.

Speaker 14 (02:43:12):
I want to give an honorable mention to our friend
Creative Accidents who came up with a good one too,
Victoria Newland with a tray of cookies.

Speaker 1 (02:43:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely for the Martians. Yeah yeah, that's
that's the that's death right there. Well yeah, I mean yeah,
that's probably it is to That's a lot of room
to make for Newland though. Have you seen her lately?

Speaker 5 (02:43:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:43:36):
I don't know. If the space maybe the cookies maybe,
but not her unfortunately Matt Miller tempting, but he's he
hasn't raised his profile quite high enough yet. Of course,
Schmooley's getting We already picked smoothly everybody, So you don't
need to tell us that. Henry Kissinger Kamala Im not

(02:43:57):
sure anyway. I like the Peterson, the Vinmin twins. That's good.
The twins. They should get their own rocket they can
ride on the outside. Yeah, I mean, it's just so
many great picks. Yeah, you guys did a great job.

(02:44:18):
Our comments did a great job on this. It's really
top job. Kagan's coming in there as well. It's come
sliding in the sliding in the home plates too late, folks.
We have shut the door and turned the bolt. Jeff
Besos has turned the bolt with his uh alan key.
Did you guys see what was that all about? That

(02:44:41):
was such a joke, talk about fake Oh my god,
don't even get a start.

Speaker 14 (02:44:47):
That's the recovered alien technology from Roswell. So you just
got to get it like within five feet of the
door to just bust wide open one.

Speaker 1 (02:44:54):
Yeah. So look, you guys, thank you for joining us.
Everybody hasher r kiss Basil Valentine. I'll just quickly get
you to give a shout out to what you're doing
this week, and just to our audience, Look, we do
really hard politics. It's gruesome, it's depressing, but sometimes during overdrive,

(02:45:15):
we like to a little bit of gallows humor here
just to get you to lighten things up a little bit,
because it's tough. It's tough for our readership, it's tough
for our listenership. You guys, and people are under like
psychological cognitive assault like every second of every day. So
we're just kind of like let off some steam here,
and you can imagine what that's like to have that
rocket go up. And you know Musk is on board

(02:45:38):
as well. That means you're probably not gonna see them
very much after that, and that's all good. And then
we could just do a fake AI version of the
mission after that and then play that off for the
next couple of years, because that's what they're gonna do anyway,
isn't it anyway? Like so right hasher give us a
shout out. What's happening this week? What are you up to?

Speaker 5 (02:46:01):
Well, we just closed out a boiler room on Thursday night.
That's up on our rumble and our YouTube and my
X channel, So follow me on x at hasher media
boiler room on Rumble, Alternate Current Radio on YouTube, and
visit the website Alternate Current Radio dot com for all
the latest show posts and everything. This show will be

(02:46:21):
posted there as well as twenty first Century wire dot com.
Shortly after the program and yep, join us in the
boiler room. That'll be Thursday nights we are live. But
those archives are up there on those video streaming platforms
I mentioned. If you want audio versions, those are available
at spreaker and other good podcasting locations. That's what we

(02:46:44):
got going on this week. Yeah, another boiler room graphic
right there the world on the roller coaster there. Rockets
has been hooking us up with some great graphics for
the show. Also, Pat, congratulations. We're about a year out
from your health scare last year and we had to
take some dynamic changes to the show while you were out,

(02:47:07):
and I just want to let you know we love you, buddy,
and we're so happy that you're here with us and
manning the ship and working so hard. So really just
a lot of appreciation for that. And I'm going to
close with a quote from Chris Hedges. Big thanks, to
creative accidents for throwing this one my way. But when

(02:47:31):
speaking about Gaza, he said recently on social media, the
moral universe has now been turned upside down. Those of
us who oppose genocide are accused of advocating it. Those
who carry out genocide are said to have the right
to self defense. So think about that when you're doing
your untwisting of the Orwellian backwards inverted world that you

(02:47:57):
find yourself in right now, because there's something there. Thanks
for having me, Patrick.

Speaker 1 (02:48:03):
Yeah, thanks for the shout there, Hasha. I appreciate it. Yeah,
a lot to reflect over the last twelve months. Maybe
we'll talk. I don't know, I may talk. I may
write about this at some point in the future, but yeah,
thanks Ruckus take us away.

Speaker 12 (02:48:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (02:48:20):
Of course, Hesher mentioned the website, so that's a good
spot for you to go if you're looking for anything
related to alternate current radio that's real. You'll find my
Daily Ruckus, the Roundabout Ruckus where I go on weaponized News.
I also just did something recently Jamie Hanshaw, so shout
out to Jamie Hanshaw. And of course you'll find the
boiler Room, our friends, the odd Man out mystical American patriots.

(02:48:42):
There's some daily Ruckus for you. So yeah, go to
Alternate Current Radio dot com. You'll find Midweek Wire there.
If not, you're looking for some Ruccus stuff, go to
my ex it's ac Underscore Wordslinger, and I'll leave everybody
with this great quote. When the people fear their governments,
there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there
is liberty. Thanks for having me, Patrick, and happy belated

(02:49:04):
forth of July to my American friends.

Speaker 1 (02:49:07):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. Thanks for the slides as well.
Rucus great, we'll put that up full screen. Thank you,
and Basil.

Speaker 12 (02:49:18):
I'm doing more.

Speaker 15 (02:49:20):
Yeah, I'm doing more Unprecedented TV, which is a new
venture with former leader of the Liberal Democrats Lembidopick. You
can watch me on his ex account Limbidopick. Everything goes
up there. I did a one show last week, I'll
do a couple this week, and there's now an Unprecedented

(02:49:41):
TV YouTube channel. Although you'll have difficulty finding it for
the time being, that will become more visible and I'm
going to start doing more there. I'm going to start
doing you know, probably two or three spots to camera
per day, So watch this space.

Speaker 12 (02:49:57):
Much more to come.

Speaker 1 (02:49:59):
Yeah, thanks, and late entry here on the Mars mission.
Just throw that up on screen. There you go. There
was a spare seat. Yeah, it's full. It's filled. It's filled.
Now that's a full house on the way to Mars.
Thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. It's been a great
Sunday Wire, a lot to think about, a lot to

(02:50:20):
talk about. We'll catch up to you guys in our travels.
Take care all the best. There they go, ladies and gentlemen.
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(02:51:24):
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We'll see you on the midweek. All the best.

Speaker 6 (02:57:56):
Force.

Speaker 16 (02:57:57):
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Speaker 1 (02:58:20):
We can see you over.

Speaker 13 (02:58:24):
We can see time, We can see forever. But can
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But we can be brave, old in the hearts, trying
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SPEs and leave you dream. Rise from the years the cries,
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Speaker 9 (02:59:22):
You can battle with it.

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We can be strong, past a sacilitation.

Speaker 10 (02:59:33):
And nowhere left to belong.

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We can read you.

Speaker 9 (02:59:42):
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Speaker 9 (02:59:55):
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Speaker 9 (03:00:32):
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