SUNDAY WIRE EP 560 - The Truth About Charlie Kirk: Patrick Henningsen with Hesher, Ruckus & Basil - Sunday Wire with Patrick Henningsen

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this week's edition of
The Sunday Wire. I'm Patrick Kenningson, your host. Were streaming
out live on the Alternate Current Radio network and also
at twenty first century wire dot com. Hello to everybody
in the twenty one wire chat room. Also a big
hello to everybody on Rumble YouTube, Live, bit Shoot, Facebook Live,
as well as a few other of the audio streams. Again,

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we'll be going on after the program on iTunes Spotify.
So big hello to everybody there and thank you guys
for hanging with us this week. We've been off for
a couple of weeks. As I said in previous shows,
it was going to be on the road. We had
a very successful summer tour, number of festivals, both with

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twenty first Century Wire and the UK Column, and also
in Europe as well. We're at Liberpolko speaking there just
this past week in Central Europe and Serbia, which was
for me a great thrill, my first time to the
Balkans as it were. And for that event too, which
is just was a phenomenal event, an amazing organized event,

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and some of the caliber of the speakers there was incredible.
Alex Zach, who's one of my favorite speakers as well,
was there and really enjoyed his presentation. We can talk
more about that later on, but we've got a very
important broadcast today. This is episode five hundred and sixty

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of this weekly omnibus news and analysis radio program, again
brought to you here on ACR, and they also Patrick
kenningson your host. If you're watching on X as well
X Live. If this is your first time, welcome to
the program. We've got a great community here. What we'll
do is we'll talk about the main story here in

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the first segment, and everybody's talking about you know what
is going to be. It's in the show title, The
Truth About Charlie Kirk. We'll talk about the shooting, but
also talk a lot about him as well. Then in
this second segment of Overdrive, which will be after the break,
we'll bring our teammates in from ACR, Brian McLain aka Hesher,

(02:36):
host of The Boiler Room, Adam Clark, Ruckus, host of
the Daily Ruckus, Basil Valentine as well. We'll bring a
round table together, we'll break down this issue a little
bit further. So again we're looking forward to that so
that's what we'll do after the break. We also have
some video clips as well, which we'll be sharing with

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you about this topic. And most importantly, we will go
to the people who really understand what's going on. That's
our listeners, our viewers in the comment threads. We'll be
reviewing some of the top comments. We'll be doing that
during the overdrive segment. So again, the incredible engagement in
our comment threads, especially on YouTube. It's unbelievable how many hundreds,

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thousands of comments are pouring in during this broadcast on Sunday.
Unbelievable engagement. So we've got great loyal listeners. We need
to now is break YouTube's algorithm prison that they've kept
us in for the better part of a decade. Anyway,
we're work, It's yeoman's labor. We're working on it. What
can we say, Listen, let's get to the topic at hand.

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Before we do that, though, I want to bring on
to the screen just to remind people, there's a very
very important article up at twenty first century wire dot com.
It's right here Destabilizing Moldova, Europe and Zelenski's plan to
thwart Trump putin piece efforts with provocations in Transnistria, Transnistria
being the breakaway pro Russian or Russian Allied republic there,

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which is in the eastern part of Moldova. So Zelensky
and the Europeans want to keep this war going and
they're going to use Moldova to do it. There's receipts
in this special report which we released last night, very
very important article. I want everybody, if you're watching, go
to twenty first century wire dot com, grab the link

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on this, share it across your social media feeds. This
is so important. This is how it looks like. This
is one of the gambits that the European leaders and
their intelligence services and NATO, although this is probably being
done outside of NATO and Zelensky are planning to basically
shake down the US for more money, more weapons, and

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to keep the war going and potentially drag Europe into
an extended regional inflagration or conflict. So read the report
for yourself. If you find the evidence compelling, which I'm
sure you will, you really need to share that on
your x on your Facebook feeds as well. Post this article,

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get people to comment on make sure people read this.
It's very important. It's very important. While they're so close
to getting some kind of a negotiated settlement or at
least getting somewhere towards, you know, an end to this conflict,
you have other parties, mainly France Macron leading the way,
with the UK, Germany and the EU behind Macron as

(05:39):
the chief instigators to try to drive this conflict further
down the road. These people are crazy and they won't
stop until who knows. I mean, what do they want
in the end? They want to see Ukraine totally destroyed?
Do they want to destroy Europe in the process? I mean,
what is the end state for these European leaders? And
remember when we're talking about Macron and some of these

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European leaders, these are people floating out like within fifteen
percent approval rating, twenty percent approval rating that are governing
with these really flimsy, tenuous coalition governments. They don't have
a mandate. Macron hasn't had a mandate probably since his

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first election. Okay, he shouldn't even be in power. He
is literally clinging by his fingernails. And meanwhile Candie Owans
has his you know, the eliciate Palace by the literally
by the balls I'm not kidding, you know what I'm

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talking about. I mean, that's how desperate Macron is. Not
to mention, France has stolen something like sixty billion in
Russian frozen assets on the sly So if you look
at Macron's rhetoric, how aggressive it's been towards Russia in
the last couple of weeks. That's why. Okay, because France

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is running point on this destabilization effort in Moldova, and
it looks like France has stolen a lot of money
that was supposed to be kept in escrow and they
probably don't have the cash to pay it back because
France's totally skint as a government. Whatever spare change they
managed to magic up in the Central Bank, they're sending

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to Ukraine and probably to Israel as well. So that's
what's happening. Important article again, put this up on screen.
That's the top of twenty first century wire dot com,
right above the nord Stream special report by Freddy Ponton,
which is we still have pinned on our feature section.

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So a number of great reports on our website right now.
So I do encourage people to get over there and
share that right across all of your different feeds on
all the different social media feeds and so forth. But yeah,
that's that's what's happening. So again, very important destabilization efforts.

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So you know, where's that going to leave Trump's you know,
reapproachmall with Russia probably probably out in the lurch. It's
it's not going to happen. So this is how Zelensky
is going to stay in the game. Moldova transnistry of
folks believe it. That's what's happening. So well, we'll see

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how that develops. Will be reporting more on that in
the coming days and weeks. So but here is the story,
and we'll have to just understand what happened this week
on September eleventh, ominous day, Charlie Kirk, conservative pundit, political

(09:01):
activist gets gunned down. That's what we're going to be
talking about in this first segment. No doubt this is
going to bleed over into the Overdrive segment. I'm sure
of it. So Charlie Kirk. Some people in Europe might
not have heard of Charlie Kirk, but this is dominating
US headlines at least for this week. We'll see how
long it lasts. In this hyper attention deficit disorder information

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economy that we are living in. So Charlie Kirk was
gunned down, assassinated, if you want to use that term.
He didn't hold any public office, so let's say he
was murdered, but he used political activists, definitely a surrogate
of the Trump administration and speaking at a college event,

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and a very polarizing figure in politics. But the shooting.
His shooting is even more polarizing. Obviously, there's people, some
peopleeople are doing a victory lap. Charlie Kirk was the
sworn enemy of the left, as he called it, and
of course the left, many in the left, of course,

(10:09):
are not upset that he's no longer doing what he's doing.
And you can think of what you want of that reaction.
But when you put yourself out as a polarizing figure
and you declare war on half of the country registered Democrats,
people who identify as being quote on the left, you're

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going to get a visceral reaction if something like this happened.
So this is what Charlie Kirk did, this is what
he did for a living, and we're going to talk
a little bit about who he was and what he
was because that's important. That's important, and we'll talk also
about who backed Charlie Kirk, who was backing him financially,

(10:57):
because that's also important. See Charlie Kirk, a lot of
people will say different people will call him different things.
I've heard people call him a journalist. He's not a journalist.
He's a political activist who does journalistic things. That's what
Charlie Kirk is. He's a political activist, but he's not

(11:17):
just any political activist. His organization, Turning Point USA is
probably the number one influential political action group. It ran
as a five to one C three not for profit
but attached itself to the Trump administration, which it's neutral

(11:39):
status is a not for profits very debatable. It's more
like a political action committee with a media arm and
an event's arm. But put that debate aside for the moment,
and certainly there's plenty of controversy there with that organization.
But what people need to first understand and this is
the number one one point. Put this in perspective with

(12:05):
Charlie Kirk. Okay, people in politics that take political money,
and this is a general criticism. We're not admonishing Charlie
Kirk specifically. We're just telling you how it is, that's all.

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And if you don't like, if anybody out there is
a Charlie Kirk fan or you know, brandishes around their
conservative bona fide us or Christian conservative bonafidees, you don't
like what we're about to say, I apologize in advance.
It's probably not the show for you. Okay. We're just
telling things as they are, as objectively as possible. Real politic,

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and the real politic is this people in politics that
accept political money. If you're Brian mast or you're Tom
Cotton or Mark Rubio, and you take millions from the
Israeli lobby, from IPAC and all the other Israeli donors,
then your views on Israel are a reflection of those

(13:17):
who are stuffing money into your pockets, donating to your
campaigns and so forth. Your sponsors. These are the people
paying you. And how it works in the US politics
is whoever pays you, you tend to reflect the views

(13:39):
that the people writing the biggest checks have. So Charlie
Kirk's views are very much a reflection of the donor
base for his organization, Turning Point USA, and it's very
important to understand that Turning Point USA is not a

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small political concern. Turning Point USA is racking up revenues
of one hundred million dollars per year. Okay, this isn't
just a little podcast does events and shows up on

(14:21):
college campuses and puts his table out and says, prove
me wrong. Let's debate and do the whole Ben Shapiro
stick getting in arguments with purple haired, gender neutral, confused
undergraduates at UC Berkeley. Okay, that's not what this is.

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This is a mega political action organization that's funded by
the richest people in the world, the richest people in
the United States, many of whom are the richest people
on the planet. The billionaire class hundred and millions, either
worth hundreds of millions or billions. That's Charlie Kirk's donor base, Okay,

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as well as the foundations that are run by those billionaires.
And it just so happens that many of those billionaires
happen to be Zionists, some of which are Jewish family
foundations that exclusively support Jewish interests and Israeli interests. Okay,

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you can look it up for yourself. You can go
to a number of these watchdogs that will have Turning
Points donor class in them. We're talking about the Richardi
Uli healedi in ouh Helian whatever. He's the guy that
Schlitz Beer, the Schlitz Beer magnet and his foundation as well.

(15:59):
You see some of these people like Peter Krer's the
Coors Beer Foundation. I mean, Adolph Coor is one of
the biggest racists going. I mean, that's no secret. But
you have these sort of people. The Runner Family Foundation
sponsoring anti BDS legislation Illinois, if I'm not mistaken, the

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Marcus Foundation exclusively for Jewish causes, Bradley Foundation that has
bankrolled a lot of anti Muslim campaigns, including the Horowitz
Freedom Foundation, the Horowitz Freedom Foundation, which then pays for
the legal bills for Tommy Robinson in the UK. The

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Middle East Forum, which is a Israeli Zionist cutout. Effectively,
if you really want to drill down and look at
the work that the Middle East Quote Forum do, I mean,
that's under the Bradley Foundation. The Bradley Foundation is a
major bankroll or for Turning Point USA, and the list
goes on. I mean, if you really want to go
down that list, it's mind boggling the amount of money.

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And so that's the point is people are paid to
have their views. If the billionaire class wasn't pumping money
to Turning Point USA, what do you think Charlie. First
of all, Charlie Kirk probably wouldn't even have a podcast.
He only has a media that it's paid views, like

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literally paid to get views on YouTube, Rumble and across
the internet. Because when you get one hundred million a
year in revenue, you can pay for visibility for your
podcast with your studios, your producers, your guest bookers, paying guests,
and you yourself as the host. Your views are paid for.

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Charlie Kirk held views that reflected the people that were
paying him. This is the most important concept you need
to understand. So that's that's where we need to start,
you know, And my first observation. I've been watching Charlie
Kirk since twenty twelve, you know, since Turning Point USA

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appeared on the scene, specifically during the first Trump campaign. Okay,
he was very young, and he looked to me like
very young, not particularly deep, not particularly intellectual, but yet
the played the role of a zealot in terms of

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being a voice in the culture wars, extremely anti Muslim,
anti Islam, extremely pro Israel. No, we'll show some clips
of recent months where he began to waiver on the
Israeli issues somewhat recently, which will show you some compelling

(19:06):
evidence there, and that might also raise questions about, you know,
who may have been the shooter or the assassin, what
the motivations might have been, which we can only speculate
on at this point in time. But I don't think
it's cruel to say Charlie Kirk wasn't very deep. Okay,

(19:30):
He's basically no different than any mainstream podcaster, the mainstream
quote alternative media, that and what we call con inc.
You probably heard that term conservative inc. Called con inc.
It's a play on words. Obviously, con artists and a
lot of people original magas don't like the big money

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that's been pumped into the Mega movement. It's seen as
an anathema to the original spirit in twenty sixteen, but
the entire Trump movement's been colonized by the billionaire class.
Elon Musk being like the ultimate kind of expression of that,
literally buying his way into the White House before like

(20:16):
being ejected in glorious fashion and the end of Doge.
What a con that whole thing was. We talked about
that on this show. I said that Doge wouldn't be
around in a year before Trump was inaugurated, neither would
Elon in the White House, and of course I was right.
So we're this show. Well, let me just finish my

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thought here. So what the mainstream podcasters do, and what
Charlie Kirk would tend to do, is read the room,
i e. Read the news feeds. It's what Rogan does,
what everybody does. And when they see the wind blowing
a certain way on the Ukraine conversation or maybe even
on the Gaza Israel conversation, when things when the opposition

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to the government reaches critical mass, then they start talking
about those issues in a more open minded way, or
vaccines or lockdowns and so forth. But usually they're usually
behind the curve, significantly, certainly way behind shows like this
And again I'm not blowing my trumpet here. People who
listen and watch this show over the last decade know

(21:24):
that we're usually first or way way way ahead of
the curve on all these issues. Okay, and that's why
we don't have one hundred million dollars pumped into our
organization by billionaires because we are ahead of the curve.
The reason people like Charlie Kirk and others like him

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and Ben Shapiro, the reason they're subsidized by the billionaire
class and the one hundred millionaire class is because they
are gatekeepers. It's because they do throttle the conversation. They
do act as sheep dogs to their flock. Okay, that's

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why they get the big money. This is why they
dominate the major media platforms, video sharing platforms. It's why
they go viral. It's why they're force fed into your feed.
It's why Elon Musk retweets them, forces them into your
ex feed. Okay, it's because they are consistently behind the curve.

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Is because they are gatekeeping on these important issues for
that reason, and then they'll pivot accordingly. If it looks
like the conservative their conservative base is pushing back on
vaccines or the Health for Freedom movements getting incredible traction,
they'll move very quickly and start pivoting. This is what

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Rogan and Russell Brand and Ben Shapiro and a Charlie
Kirk as well, if they think they can used the
issue to leverage support amongst their base then they'll pivot.
The exception would be the Israel issue. Okay, that's not
an easy pivot, and we'll show you how awkward that

(23:15):
is for people like Charlie Kirk, who was under incredible
pressure from a lot of people within MAGA to stop
basically caring water for Netanyahu and this genocide that's happening
in Gaza, and so he started wavering on the Israel
issue probably from August twenty twenty five, really in the

(23:35):
last six weeks before that. I would say Charlie Kirk
was a loyal soldier for Zionism and everything that Israel
was doing in Gaza and the mass extermination, ethnic cleansing
of the native Palestinian population. Okay, and we can show
you plenty of receipts for that. But that's two years

(24:00):
of sheep dogging for kan Ink and MAGA on the
Israel issue. I mean, what can we say. But there's
a few other things that we could you add to that,
but well, let's look at We'll look at the slides
here and just kind of do a little review. Now

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it's important on the shooting itself, and this is one thing,
this is the Guardian by the way, I just I
like the image. The headline's good. I'm not a big
fan of The Guardian, as you know, even though they've
published my work a long time ago, back before electricity
was discovered. Questions linger about alleged shooter's motivation for the

(24:44):
Charlie Kirk killing, and this is true. Nobody knows. I
mean this, This shooter hasn't been convicted yet, but conveniently,
a suspect has been produced. Multiple suspects have been produced, conveniently,
and they seem to have found one that they're going
to go with after flooding the space with fake suspects
for the previous couple of days. And of course we

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know nothing. Do have we done the forensics? Do we
have his prints on the weapon? Do we have a
positive idea of him on the roof? No, they have
none of this. So my personal feeling is when I
saw this, this is a professional hit. I don't care
what anybody says, selected time in place, rooftop, shot at distance,

(25:36):
kill shot to the hitting perfectly, hitting the artery in
the neck. I mean this is a professional hit. A
shooter not apprehended, no manifesto on four Chune. It's a
professional hit. Whether the patsy that's going to be taking
the fall for this. Is the shooter or not remains

(25:59):
to be seen. Most likely, it looks like he will
be prosecuted as such. Have they pulled off assassinations like
this in the United States without catching the right person?
Has that ever happened in history in the United States? Yes,
it has multiple times. Could this be the case here?

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I would say it cannot be ruled out based on history.
So we need to get out of the imaginary world
in our mind that suddenly everything the mainstream media says
is accurate and real, and that there is no such

(26:44):
thing as false flags or set up fake patsies to
take the fall for high profile assassinations, etc. Or that
foreign governments are not involved in these type of criminal
acts activities on US soil or any country for that matter.
We need to get out of our little comfort zone

(27:07):
because all of those things are still happening in the
world and are still in play. This is no different.
So still a lot of questions remain, but the media
will push you to make up your mind and things
like that. Now, this is just unbelievable. The grift on
this is incredible. So Sean Hannity and others are promoting

(27:31):
the gifts and Go page for Charlie Kirk's wife and children. Okay,
fair enough, generally not a problem, but you have to
you have to understand Charlie Kirk lives his family live
in a six million dollar estate in Scottsdale, Arizona. That

(27:54):
is one of the most affluent neighborhoods in the United States,
in the whole country. Okay, that's where he lives. And
his salary for turning point was around three hundred thousand
dollars a year, plus expenses probably everything, probably rarely had

(28:16):
to dip into his pocket, certainly travel everything. This organization's
create raking in one hundred million a year, so I'm
sure he had no out of pockets. Who knows the
rite off's galore. So we go to Gibs and go,
here's the They've already raised a million dollars, so in

(28:37):
forty eight hours they hit their goal already. They'll probably
raise if Hannity and all the Fox hosts are still
pumping this, they're probably going to raise millions. And the
sky's the limit. Sky's the limit. So I mean not
only that, though, his wife's probably going to take some
vestigial role in the turning point and will draw a

(28:58):
salary in addition to every anything else. So these people
are not short of a few dollars. They're fabulously wealthy
compared to Joe the Plumber and Jane the Plumber. That's
the first thing. So the grift is unbelievable in terms

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of how the mainstream media and the sort of millionaire
class on Fox all of those hosts are millionaires on
Fox News, how they're pumping this and trying to capitalize
on Rabbi Shmooley, believe it or not. Believe it. Actually,
Rabbi Schmooley was basically also trying to raise money on

(29:44):
the back of the Kirk story. And you just go
to his X feed and you can see Schmooley himself
was basically, you know, crying that he no longer feels
safe and he needs to beef up security. And I
think think he probably even dropped a link, well, well

(30:04):
we'll try to dig it up, but a gift send
go link where he's trying to raise money on the
back of this tragedy as it were, So and Ben
Shapiro announced he's canceling all of his public engagements because
of safety reasons, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, there's

(30:27):
just no end to people trying to capitalize on this financially.
I mean, these these people are absolutely shameless. But I
think I think we do have that uh that smoothly
uh tweet. Yeah, we we do. Unfortunately, we're going to
show this to people. I apologize in advance, but let's

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let's bring this up on screen here there. So this
is America's rabbi, Rabbi Shmoothy Boutish, who apparently does just
doesn't feel safe after this event. So he posted this
on his ex account and he's saying, I have spoken
for my friend many times. He's talking about Charlie Kirk.

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I'm in shock and praying for help protect Rabbi Schmooley.
So he's saying, pray for Charlie Kirk, but send money.
He's got to go fund me link there, send money
for Rabbi Schmooley. I'm confused. So it's that Charlie Kirk
got shot, but yet help Rabbi Schmooley. I suppose because
he doesn't feel safe and he needs to beef up

(31:34):
his security. I believe that's what is happening here, although
you know, I really don't know, I really know who
knows with these people anyway, I know it's unsavory, but
we had to show you that I apologize. But back

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to the subject at hand. So the other thing that
you have to realize is after October seventh, Kirk and
everybody went into overdrive on behalf of Israel, and the
amount of fear mongering that was going on was unbelievable.

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But what was interesting was around earlier, Elon Musk and
Kirk remember bann the ADL. Elon Musk was upset because
the ADL was pressuring Musk. This is in the early
days when he bought Twitter and then changed it to

(32:41):
x and Musk did this hashtag ban the ADL, and
he started flirting with this idea that it was Jewish
money that was funding cultural Marxism and open borders and immigration. Okay,
this is prior to October seventh, or right around that time.

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And if you remember, Elon Musk then got dragged by
the ear to Auschwitz to do a struggle session with
Ben Shapiro, Schmooley, a whole bunch of other rabbis, and
then got dragged to Israel to do the October seventh
propaganda tour led by Netnyahu himself. That so Musk was

(33:22):
disciplined for his insubordination and from that point forward was
tasked being a loyal soldier to Israel. And so Kurt. Interestingly,
and this is where it gets interesting, Kirk himself also

(33:42):
was flirting with this similar talking point and it's probably
came up with Tucker Carlson as well and others. And
so we'll see if we have this video, which I
think is quite incredible, and we'll show you after October seventh.
This is important. So what we're doing here is we're

(34:03):
tracing the evolution of Charlie Kirk's kind of public positions
vis a vis Israel. This is very important because it's
going to lead up to a crescendo. So when we
look we're studying this and we're looking at these issues,
these sort of things are not necessarily coincidences. So I'm

(34:25):
going to call this the Elon trapp Okay, that's what
I'll call it, because that was the era Elon set
a trap for himself and ended up getting collared by
the Israeli lobby and they own him. Here it is
This is Charlie Kirk before.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Very important Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind
of hatred against whites that they claim to want people
to stop using against them. Now, I don't like generalizations.
Not every Jewish person believes that, but it is true.
The Anti Defamation League was part and parcel with Black
Lives Matter. It is true that some of the largest

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financiers of left wing anti white causes have been.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Jewish Americans.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
They went all in on WOKE and it wasn't just ADL,
it was some of the top Jewish organizations.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
In the country that have done that.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
In fact, we have seen this with the recent retreat
of Jewish donations that are no longer going to be
administered to colleges, right, Mark Rowan, Leon Kappenman, can we
get that full list? Very powerful the part of the
So that's totally true. And by the way, Tucker Carlson
reinforces this, so I'm going to kind of It was
quite a day on the internet. Tucker Carlson was interviewing

(35:40):
Candie Owans. We have Candie Owans coming up next hour,
and Tucker Carlson mentions that Jewish Americans have primarily been
financing cultural Marxist ideas. We said this, by the way
last week, and people came after us. We actually said
it in a different way. We said, I'm glad that
Jewish Americans are reconsidering their financing of cultural Marxism, and

(36:04):
people misunderstood it intentionally and slandered us as being anti Semites.
But listen to this. Tucker Carlson is completely correct by
saying this that the philosophical foundation of anti whiteness has
been largely financed by Jewish donors in the country.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Okay, so that's Charlie Kirk also stepped into that elon trap. Okay,
that was before and the timing of that was, you know,
then October seventh happens. Okay, then you get this. So
these are leading conservative influencers basically saying that after October seventh,
and Charlie Kirk was also doing this, although I think

(36:45):
he deleted his tweet after myself and many others basically,
I don't know, I'm looking for his tweet on that.
But there's Hamas sleeper cells crossing over the southern border
to you know, wreak havoc after October seventh, a day
of Muslim rage I think that people were pushing that
and everybody was on it. Here's Robbie Starbuck. Does anyone

(37:08):
really think that among the men cheering for Hamas in
major US cities today, alongside the left wing activists, there
aren't some willing or waiting to do some of the
things on our soil. Know your surroundings and be vigilant. Everybody,
I mean everybody was at this at the time. I
remember it very vividly. Even Marjorie Taylor Green, who's kind

(37:28):
of pivoted away from supporting Israel in the last six months.
She said at the time, she tweeted, what happened to
Israel could happen to America. We have been invaded by
aliens from over one hundred and sixty different countries. We
don't know who they are or where they are. There's
so many that got aways. The Biden administration can't even

(37:49):
keep up with them. This should be a wake up call.
And it gets worse. Laura Lumer and no surprise there,
President Trump release release a new statement on True Social
about the attacks in Israel. The same people that rated
Israel are pouring into our once beautiful USA through our
totally open southern border. At record numbers. It's true Hamas

(38:11):
has terror cells all over the USA. That's a complete lie.
But obviously that's par for the course for Laura Lumer.
She's basically an incitement machine, that's what she does. Representative
Andy Biggs from Arizona. I used to like him, certainly,
I would have been on his side on a lot
of other issues except for this one. He's turned out

(38:34):
to be dumb as a box of rocks when it
comes to Israel. But he's not alone. Of course. He says,
how many Hamas sleeper cells have crossed our southern border
under Biden administration's policies. We are not prepared. That was
October eighth, So this was a coordinated push probably who
knows who's in the background pushing this in terms of

(38:55):
influenceable organizations or these sort of agencies pushing Israeli propaganda.
Jack Pisobiac, Jack Poso. He tweeted on October seventh, Wait
till Hamas activates the sleeper cells that already came across
our border. Again, fictional didn't happen. And you know it's
hard I have to point out to these people if

(39:17):
they don't already know the Hamas is really based in
a place called Gaza, very small piece of land called
the Gaza Strip. That's where Hamas is try to conceptualize
that if you will, conservative thinkers and thought leaders, you understand,
and they're sort of hemmed in. There's closure of air,

(39:39):
sea and land borders. They're sort of restricted there. They've
never done any expeditionary terrorist activity. In fact, under the
UN Charter, under international law, they're regarded as an armed
liberation struggle organization against an illegal Israeli occupation. That's how

(40:01):
international law defines Hamas. But Israel calls them a terrorist organization,
calls their political wing terrorists, and has lobbied for the US, Britain,
France and others to and Canada, et cetera, to also
designate them as terrorists their military and political wing, even

(40:23):
though they've never attacked or threatened the United States or
Britain or France or anybody in Europe. That's purely an
Israeli lobby effort in order to delegitimize them and then
to give Israel in America and those supplying weapons to
Israel carte blanche to kill what they deemed to be

(40:45):
quote Hamas, which is all Palestinians. You see, that's what
that terrorist designation has done. And now we all see
the results of this. So that's what these people promoted. That,
including Charlie Kirk, dehumanized Palestinians, ramped up the irrational and

(41:05):
fabricated fake fear of Hamas sleeper cells in the US,
and that in turn created the manufacturing of consent for
the US to support Israel unconditionally in every single way
and whatever it does. Okay, here's another one, Charlie. This
is what Charlie Kirk put out on October seventh, or

(41:25):
right around it's October seventh or October eighth, I'm not sure,
but this is what I mean. It was kind of
a long winded tweet. He says, why is Hamas so atrocious?
Why do they not just fight Israel but engage in
some of the worst atrocities imaginable, like rape, massacring civilians

(41:46):
and so on. There's no evidence of mass rape on
October seventh. This was another canard. Nor is there forty
b headed babies. That was another bit of atrocity propaganda
put out by Israel, repeated by Joe Biden in the
US media. Still to this day, Charlie Kirk continues, why
do other Islamic fundamentalist movements, from al Qaeda to ISIS

(42:08):
to the Taliban do the same things. That's funny, Charlie.
Maybe a better question would have been, why don't al
Qaeda and ISIS ever attack Israel. That's a legit question,
very interesting in the answer of courses, because Israel's deeply
involved in all of these clandestine organizations, as is the

(42:32):
US intelligence and British intelligence, and they've always been, including
the Muslim Brotherhood. By the way, that's another discussion which
we fleshed out very well with Kavork Almasian on Syriana
Analysis a few months ago. Unfortunately, it comes down to
one of the core principles, says Charlie Kirk right around
October seventh, when he tweeted this, the core principles of

(42:55):
Islam be like Muhammad, take slaves, rape young girls, kill people,
and robberies. Okay, So that's Charlie Kirk's worldview. So he's
putting this out getting millions of views, influencing all the
eighteen to thirty five year olds that follow turning point.
And he continues here giving his sort of ham fisted

(43:17):
historical diatribe, and he continues saying, that is why your
doctor or colleague or neighbor is not a bad person.
There are decent people precisely because they are They are
decent people precisely because they are bad Muslims who are
not really following Muhammad. So it's very convoluted and twisted

(43:39):
what he's trying to do here. And he's basically lumping
in Hamas with Isis, which is laughable because the al
Casambra Gates and others kicked Isis out of Gaza because
they didn't because they don't support that. And again Charlie
Kirk doesn't mention that there's Christians in Gaza and they

(44:00):
live harmoniously with Muslims all throughout Palestine. So it's the
mischaracter rasation, the dehumanization of Palestinians with fake narratives. And
unfortunately Charlie Kirk did this a lot. He did it
a lot, so a lot of this is absolute boulder dash.
And then he goes on about Carthage saying, no doubt,

(44:23):
twenty three hundred years ago there were decent people in
Carthage too, Oh my God, who revolted against sacrificing innocent children. Nevertheless,
Carthage was evil, and it's a good thing that it's
child sacrificing death cult is gone. It's a good thing
that Isis and the Caliphate are destroyed. Not really isis

(44:44):
is in power in Damascus. Yeah again, this was before
before the overthrow of the Asad government in Damascus in
December twenty twenty four. But that's we digress, And it
will be a good thing when Hamas is gone and
Islam no longer oppresses billions of people all over the world.

(45:07):
So is Islam oppressing billion people, billions of people all
over the world. That's what Charlie Kirk believes. So he's
a clash of civilizations guy, and he worked very hard
to push the class of clash of civilizations narrative and
to pit Christians against Muslims, Arabs against Jews, and so forth.

(45:29):
And I'm just pointing out, you know, the net effect
of the effort of Turning Point USA and the one
hundred millions of dollars that have been channeled through this
organization to push ideas, crazy convoluted histrionics and race baiting
and just polarization division that could end in violence. And

(45:54):
I guess ironically, at least in Charlie's case, that polarization. Well,
we can't say what what the true motivations of the
shooter were because we don't know, so I don't even
want to speculate. Now, this is one which came after
where Charlie Kirk says Islam is this is the is
the sword the left is using to slit the throat

(46:18):
of America. I mean, that's a talk about an inflammatory statement.
So he's merging the left, the left with is with
radical Islam, the left with ISIS and al Qaeda, and
he's pushing Hamas in there too. I mean, this is
so manipulative and disingenuous and kind of ruthless in the

(46:43):
political divisiveness sweepstakes. And I mean there's some other there's
some other clips that we can we can show. I mean,
there is another video clip, so we could bring this up.
I mean Charlie Kirk basically probably from that actual interview there,

(47:05):
we'll bring this clip up. Listen, Oh you can hear it.
Hear it for yourself. This is another part of that
discussion which it's important for people to hear.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Kall is coming to the West and the enemies are wokeism,
re Marxism combining with Islamism to go after what we
call the American way of life. And the American way
of life is very simple. I want to be able
to get married, buy a home, have kids, allow them
to ride their bike till the sun goes down, send
them to a good school, have a low crime neighborhood.

(47:40):
Not to have my kid be taught the lesbian, gay, transgender.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Garbage in their school, while also.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
While also not having them have to hear the Muslim
call to prayer five times a day.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
That's it's important. Okay, let's just pause there for a moment.
Everything that he he wants his kids to get married,
have a family, buy a house, live in a low
crime neighborhood. Okay. Mainstream Muslim culture in America or Europe

(48:19):
or anywhere else is exactly the same. They're not pro
trans or pro LGBT. They're the opposite. In fact, in Britain,
the first people to hit the streets pushing back against
this radical progressive trans and gender fluid education stuff in
school were Muslims families. They came out first. They're the

(48:43):
ones who are brave enough to come out and hit
the streets. On that issue first before white British did
you see, so Muslims are more socially conservative on the
whole than white Europeans. They haven't bought into the progressive agenda,

(49:04):
you see, so they're actually conservatives now. Charlie Kirk later
had made statements after a few years, probably in the
last couple of weeks or months, saying he wanted a coalition.
She wanted to bring Muslim conservative Muslims with all these
family values into a coalition. So the point about Charlie
Kirk is he's all over the place. As I said

(49:25):
at the beginning of the show, like many mainstream podcast types,
he flip flops whichever way, you know, either where whichever
way the money is pushing him in terms of his donors,
or whichever way the issues are trending. Okay, this is
how media outlets, mainstream meet out let's behave to. They'll

(49:48):
go whichever way they're advertisers, they're people paying them, or
pushing on issues like vaccines and so forth, pharmaceuticals, or
if things are trend the public is just so outraged
they can no longer hold back the tide of public discontent.
Then they'll break ranks on talking points and start to
give ground on some of these issues. Charlie Kirk is

(50:11):
exactly the same, exactly the same, so he listensen to
the rest of his statement.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Here, we want the American way of life, which is
by the way Christendom, Christians, our sacrifice, our toil, our vision,
the outgrowth of the Scriptures gave us Western civilization. And
this is where I think is a great rally. And
crime doesn't matter if you're Hispanic, doesn't matter, if you're Asian,

(50:39):
doesn't matter if you're black or white, everybody. If you
are Christian and Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior,
these two threats are combining forces to come after us,
and it's time that the Church stands and rises.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Up against it. So again it's this idea that Western
civilization is Christian and that nothing came from the Middle East,
from the Arabic world, including advanced mathematics and our number system,
and none of the science that came from China, including

(51:14):
modern navigation. The list goes on and on, including the
translation of the Greek classics through Andalusia and the Renaissance
through Muslim scholars doing that work and so forth, working
with even in some cases Jewish scholars. This is prior

(51:38):
to the Spanish Inquisition. If you want to want to
talk about Western civilization, gave us the dark Ages. They're
burning books in Europe and burning women at the stake,
accusing them being witches, while there were pursuing advanced sciences

(51:58):
and developments in other places like them, at least in
the Far East. Those people were preserving our books while
we were burning our books. So, I mean, it's a
kind of a discredited debate that. And by the way,
American all Americans do not go to church. Okay, people

(52:23):
who identify as Christians who actually don't pray or don't
go to church. And plus there's people who aren't Christian
as well in America christendom. So on one hand he's
pro Zionist, but then he's saying that he doesn't say
that Judaism is the foundation of America, or Islam or

(52:45):
Buddhism or Shintoism or Native American worship and Hinduism, and
so for all these people make up the tapestry of
the United States. And the United States has a Bill
of rights, we have a constitution, we have freedom of religion.
It is not a quote Christian country. Exclusively in the

(53:09):
American civilization, whatever that is in its decrepit state these days,
it is not Christian. Okay, there are Christian aspects to
Western and American civilization, for sure. There might even be
large parts of it that you could identify and categorize

(53:33):
that way. But these sort of statements are basically again
clash of civilization, divisive narratives that are being used by
Christian nationalists, white nationalists, real kind of crazy radicals to
push race baiting and many of whom ultimately want to

(53:53):
see a race war in the West. That's what they're pushing.
And they're using the immigration issue and these very arguments
that Charlie Kirk was pushing out, these divisive, polarizing arguments,
which he did consistently at every opportunity in order to
herd his flock in that direction. Now, he might have

(54:15):
broke ranks in the last couple of weeks or months,
and certainly that's compelling, but we first need to realize
that Charlie Kirk was a political tool. That's the most
important point here, in addition to what I said at
the beginning, that he's paid to have the views that

(54:37):
he holds, which he's constantly modulating depending on trending topics
and money. But he's a political tool. He's being used
by the billionaire class that put one hundred million dollars
a year into Turning Point USA as a political action

(54:57):
interest to put push certain issues, to defend Israel, to
push the clash of civilization, to push anti Islamic rhetoric,
which Charlie Kirk did for years consistently. That's hugely destructive
to society, to the fabric of America as a pluralistic,

(55:20):
constitutional republic. And I know that must pain some so
called conservatives to hear that. But if you're not constitutional,
you're not a conservative, full stop and period. And if
you're pro genocide in Gaza and you support Israel slaughtering

(55:41):
Christians Muslims children in the hundreds of thousands, the new
numbers are out, by the way, then you cannot call
you rightly call yourself a Christian. I don't care what
anybody so that's up for. That is a legitimate debate,
and I'm not the first person to say that. A

(56:02):
lot of concerned people out there, including in America, are
shocked and disturbed by the amount of Americans brandishing their
Cross of Jerusalem like crusaders on their breastplate while simultaneously

(56:24):
cheerleading an industrial scale holocaust in Gaza. That's problematic. It
should be problematic if you identify as a Christian, it
should be, but for many it's not, and that's a problem.
But Israel loves this situation. The Israeli lobby loves what

(56:47):
it's achieved. Here in America, it's manufactured consent. So it's
really important that people grasp what's happening here. And we'll
go back to some of the other details on this

(57:09):
which I think are worth pointing out. Turning Point USA again,
this is a massive political action, not for profit. It's
a giant super pac with a media arm basically and
their advocacy for so called conservative issues anti woke. They

(57:30):
managed to merge anti woke with anti Palestinian and anti Muslim.
It's a very successful high wire act which the Israeli lobby,
the Trump administration, and the evangelical Republican wing have successfully
done to a horrifying effect in the last two years especially.

(57:54):
But that's what Charlie Kirk is really in charge of.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
There.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
We highlighted just one of the donors of Turning Point
here Michael and Andrea Levin Family Foundation that is exclusively
pro Israel, Jewish Interest Foundation, and there's others in there
as well. Almost every single one of these would you'd
call Zionists either Christian or Jewish donors. And Marcus Foundation

(58:22):
another one. So that's who is bankrolling Charlie Kirk. So
what happened if Charlie Kirk went off the reservation in
the last couple of weeks, what would happen there? And
again we'll talk about the reaction here, I mean from
Rubio and so forth. Rubio is all off to Israel

(58:43):
this week, but the State Department will ban any foreigner
from entering the country who celebrated the assassination of Charlie
Kirk online. Deputy Secretary of State Chris Landau confirms Thomas Fassey.
This is how it starts. The New Patriot Act is
just ridiculous. They've already kind of immortalized Charlie Kirk as

(59:05):
some kind of a great political figure, when in fact
he is ahead of an organization. Here's another one. Charlie
Kirk has fallen a martyr for American patriotism. That's how
the sort of narrative is being constructed. He himself has

(59:27):
never said anything really profound, constantly changing and modulating his views.
I mean, somebody who talks at events and has a
podcast is pushing out just basically content, filling the airwaves
of content constantly, doesn't really say much about anything. He's

(59:49):
really just parroting talking points the whole time. It's nothing
profound or deep. Certainly, the level of analysis of US
foreign policy doesn't touch anything that we do on this
program or any of our colleagues on the other shows
that I either appear as a guest on or things
that I watch, including Judge Napolitano's Judging Freedom as an example,

(01:00:11):
that's the number one political talk show in America. And
Charlie Kirk could never be on that show, or could
never opine in any intelligent way. He's not in the
league of anybody who would appear as a guest on
shows like that, but he has a massive audience, and
he's usually influential because of the money that's behind him

(01:00:34):
and Glenn Beck. I mean, the whole of the Blaze,
it's Charlie Kirk. This is just the front page one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine. There's like twenty Charlie Kirk articles this week.
It's just plastering, you know. Glenn Beck says why Charlie
Kirk's assassination will change us in ways this generation has
never seen what is he talking about. That was literally

(01:00:54):
twenty four hours after the shooting. So they're desperate to
con struck the narrative around Charlie Kirk, to use him.
As I said before, while Charlie Kirk was alive. And
this isn't like I'm not admonishing him, I'm just stating fact.
He was a political vehicle. He was a political tool.

(01:01:16):
He was used by the most powerful and wealthy people
in the United States as a tool to lead an
organization to advance whatever talking points or interests or social
engineering or pro Israeli things that they wanted to push
to manufacture consent for the Trump administration to do exactly

(01:01:39):
what it's doing right now, which is rounding up dissenters,
arresting students, deporting people for writing op eds critical of
the state of Israel. As an example, forget all the
anti woke, anti LGBT stuff that to me is just
like romper room. You know, that's mister Rogers neighborhood that's

(01:02:00):
Ben Shapiro to go beat up on gender confused non
binary undergrads. Okay, that's for the beta males who call
themselves tough conservatives. As for the Jordan Peterson's and the
people that follow him and who subscribe to the Daily Wire,
that's who. That's for. The big ticket items are geopolitical,

(01:02:25):
foreign policy, economic, those are the big ticket items. And
free speech. And all of these people who claim to
be pro free speech were cheering on the government shutting
down free speech across US campuses, including Charlie Kirk calling

(01:02:46):
them pro Hamas students, pro Hamas rallies. A total lie.
People protesting a genocide were being framed as pro Hamas.
So it was a double lie. So that's the conversation
that we want to have here today on Charlie Kirk. Now,

(01:03:10):
a funny thing happened on the way to the office
at Turning Point, USA in August. And somebody who I
have great respect for is James Lee, who is an
independent journalist, who's a fabulous reporter, and who's probably one
of the best TikTok video producers there is. Put him

(01:03:33):
and Nico House up in sort of the top of
my league table of being able to condense complex issues
into understandable bite size chunks. And it's what James Lee
pointed out. And this is important. We're going to wrap
this segment up, obviously, but not before we hear this

(01:03:53):
very very important. And so what happened with Charlie Kirk
in the months running up to this incident. What happened,
that's the big question. He changed his views, He changed
his views on the Israeli issue. Let's listen to this.
This is James Lee.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
I trust very much, and this is coming from the
top levels of government. And they were having dinner with
people senators in the Senate for Intelligence Committee. They are
not openly saying this at this point of course, but
in private conversation they're saying, Hey, this looks like potentially
Israel's behind this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
And then, in terms of getting to the actual evidence itself,
a very close friend of Charlie Kirk's put out there.
Charlie didn't want to put out this sweet himself, but
he told a friend to put it out on the
internet and said, hey, if I go against Israel, I
think they will kill me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
And when did he say this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
This was August thirteenth, So less than a month ago.
I can see Charlie over the last few months sort
of taken new information and have his mind shift a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
He used to be an Israeli loyalist.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
Then he starts to sort of mildly criticize Israel in
that Hey, I don't think you know, we shouldn't be
allowed as an American to question the acts of a
foreign government.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I have text messages Meghan calling me an anti semi.
I have less abilities sometimes online to criticize the Israeli
government about backlash than actual Israelis do. And that's really
really weird, isn't it, Meghan?

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
And he publicly said, hey, maybe Epstein was Massad. He
certainly had a lot of connections to Israeli ex prime ministers.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
And there's also this clip where he questions how October
seventh happens?

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Was there a stand down order six hours? I don't
believe it Israel's side of size of New Jersey. When
I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border,
it's forty five minutes, six hours they're live streaming the
killing of Jews. Was that somebody in the government say,
stand out? That is a legitimate, non conspiracy question. I mean,

(01:05:57):
this is a big problem for Israel. Charlie Kirk maybe
the most influential figure on the right, especially with people
under the age of thirty, and when you start to
have somebody that influential as a conservative is say hey,
we need to maybe reassess this relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
There's something weird going on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
This is a warning to people in the media to say, hey,
you need to stop this right now because you could
be next.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Wow. So, you know, nice, nice job there, And big
shout out to James and Today Ish the show that
had him on as a guest where that segment came from.
You go to James Lee's x feed or check him
out on TikTok or Instagram. So that's something there. And
then the piece de le Resistance, Charlie Kirk debates Ben

(01:06:49):
Shapiro just within very short space before this shooting, and
this was to say this was on comfortable for Shapiro
and so this is an edit just of Charlie Kirk's
questions to Shapiro. Is Charlie Kirk's trying to be balanced here?

(01:07:10):
I think this was just this past week before the shooting,
before he was killed. I mean This is pretty incredible.
Watch and listen closely. Watch and listen closely. This is
beyond interesting. And notice Shapiro is seething, seething in the background.

(01:07:39):
And you can watch the whole debate if you want.
This is on Rumble, It's on a number of channels.
We don't have time to run the full length of it.
We just someone is clipped out. Just the questions here watch.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
In news this morning that quite honestly, I'm a little
confused by, and I was hoping you could navigate it,
help us understand, which is that Israel bombed Qatar, which
houses a lot of Hamas officials.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
What happened here?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
And if I were to introduce just this skeptical question,
will this potentially endanger America's own interest in the Middle least?
So please, Ben, help me better understand the situation. I
just spent time in Japan, and one of the things
that kind of looms over Japan is that Japan they
engage in an unconditional surrender, that they said we're done

(01:08:31):
and they laid down their arms, obviously after the two
toomic bombs. Very controversial, people of mixed opinions on it.
I certainly do, but that is unconditional surrender. Is that
what Israel is aiming for here? I suppose that is
a question that I get a lot on campus. What
does success look like? Because I think we could all
agree a long war is not good for Israel, A

(01:08:52):
long drawn out war, and we're now ending. We're coming
towards two years in about a month, so it's been
about twenty three months. So what does ultimate success look like?
In the Gaza strip? What other feedback or criticism.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Would you have about this situation?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
I know that it's impossible for anyone to listen to
everything that you ever say, but looking at this from
a American perspective, what else would you say?

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Things could have been handled differently?

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Maybe on the pr front, maybe also just on a
conduct front. Where would you say, as an outsider, things
that could have been handled better, more efficiently, or with
more precision. A claim I receive often, and we're starting
our campus tour tomorrow is that Israel is committing genocide.
How do you respond to that? Though, author that bention

(01:09:47):
your author of Lions and Scavengers are going to get
that in a second. I have one or two other questions,
and Israel I think it's very important for our audience
to hear this though, because there is an incessant campaign
and one thing of friends to meet interestingly, which is okay, Charlie,
we pushed backed against the media on COVID or lockdowns
on Ukraine on the border. Maybe we should also ask

(01:10:11):
a question, is the media totally presenting the truth when
it comes to Israel?

Speaker 7 (01:10:15):
Just a question?

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
You know that maybe we shouldn't believe everything the media says,
because I know I've been conditioned to ask a lot
more critical questions over the last couple of years. So, Ben,
some people would accuse Israel of wanting to ethnically cleanse.
Some people in the Israeli government are saying again, it's
all over the place, right, You have opinions all over.
In your opinion, what would a good outcome five years

(01:10:37):
from now be, and how does one respond to the
claims of ethnic cleansing. We're running out of time here,
but just last question on this, Ben. I know this
might be a tougher question, but Bbie said, quote, I
didn't like what you said this. I'll be honest. You
can't be maga if you're anti Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
For a couple of reasons, How did you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Analyze that state?

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
From me?

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
And it is totally fine to say to people who
wish to destroy our civilization, know your values stock and
they don't belong here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Where does all this resentment come from?

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
So Shapiro's got a book Lions and Scavengers, basically saying
the scavengers i e. The Arabs or the Muslims are
coming to destroy us in the West because they're jealous
of what the lion has, the success of the lion.
This is identical to the George Bush Clash of Civilizations

(01:11:47):
nine to eleven. They hate us for our freedoms, they
hate us far away alive. That's why they came and
tact us on nine to eleven. That's the identical And
Netdiunahu constantly put this point that there's a clash of civilizations,
that it's you know, it's it's it's Islam against the West,

(01:12:09):
and it's you know, the brown people against the white people.
Obviously the white settlers of Israel. European people don't talk
about that, like to talk about that, but there's a
European colonial aspect mentality to this. It's kind of that
should actually be front and center in this discussion. But

(01:12:30):
I mean, it's toxic what Ben Shapiro was doing, so
what Charlie Kirk was. I mean, that's kind of a
shocking array of questions. So back to what James Lee said,
this is the major influencer for the future of the
conservative movement in the United States, and this future support
of the State of Israel and this colonial settler project

(01:12:51):
called Zionis, project called Israel hangs in the balance of
this future generation that is being commanded by people like
Charlie Kirk. And this all just kind of unraveled in
the last six weeks. Okay, So it's it's it's worth discussing.

(01:13:15):
This is not a trivial thing. So again, you watch
the full discussion there, it's on rumble of Kirk and Shapiro.
It's it's it's very illuminating. Why why did Charlie Kirk
do this? He's been under tremendous pressure from people in MAGA,
as has Trump of what the hell are you backing

(01:13:38):
Israel for with everything that they're doing. I mean, it's
just insane. What what what's happening? And I mean if
I just you know, pull up my my feed, which
let's let's let's do this right now. Let's pull up
my my Twitter feed. This is just an average day

(01:13:59):
that the atrocities that we have seen just in the
last week are record levels in terms of you know,
bombing unarmed civilians and refugee tents and things like that.
Let me bring so this is just look at some
of the horrors here. This is on my feed right now,

(01:14:20):
and there's just one after another just this week. You
know what I said in my comment, here is Israel
using US and UK weapons to bomb unarmed refugee tents
on the beach. Sadistic psychopaths. No entity regime which systematically
does this has a quote right to exist. In history,

(01:14:42):
regimes have been dismantled for less, for less, So why
is this? Why is this being allowed to happen? And
we go on, here's another one. You can hear the

(01:15:04):
people screaming in the background, just this total screams people
living in tents after being made homeless. Look, there's one
of the one of the bombs caught on a on
a still frame, an American American bomb laser guided. That's

(01:15:27):
what Israel's dropping on kids, says Thomas Fasci. Here's another one.
Look at this. According to people like you know, Tom Cotton,

(01:15:58):
that's perfectly fine. It's missible. Again, is another official over
more than two hundred thousand casualties that's from the Israeli side.
I mean, this is just disgusting. These are body parts,
they're scraping them off. I don't even want to show
that it's there. I had to repost it just because

(01:16:19):
we can't look away from this. This this stuff, it's disgusting.
So again someone here free speech, but not for the
two hundred and thirty two hundred and sixty journalists killed
by Israel in Gaza. So Charlie Kirk wasn't really into
that free speech. Again, this is the body's being scraped off.
I will not I don't want to show that. You

(01:16:41):
can go and see it for yourself. Six hundred and
eighty thousand Palestinians killed in Gaza, three hundred and eighty
infants under five, ninety nine thousand children over five. Israel
isn't defending himself and this is a new data set

(01:17:03):
that's been released. Here you can go. That's on memo.
There are others too. I mean we report on some
of this in the past, but it's just unbelievable. And
there's a clip from Tom Cotton. I mean, there's just
so much of this stuff. I don't know how anybody

(01:17:24):
can keep can remain objective. If you're still neutral at
this point on this, or you think this is the
Palestinian's fault, then again, there's six hundred and eighty thousand
lives erased hidden death count. That's a new publication, hugely undercounted. Okay,

(01:17:50):
I don't know if we have the Tom Cotton clip here,
but we'll see if we can just pull that up
and then we'll go to break in a minute. You know,
I'm trying to be as comprehensive as we can and
what we're showing you so you have the full scope

(01:18:12):
of the issue. But let me just bring you to this, okay,
and that is the gray zone. And so let's we'll
drop this for the moment and then we're gonna connect
here with what the gray zone are doing. And this
is this is an important story here, This is a
very important story. We'll bring this up on screen right

(01:18:35):
now and it goes like this, very very important. Again.
This is this is co authored by Max Blumenthal and
your parent Pill his wife, both excellent journalists, and look

(01:18:58):
at this Gray Zone headline. Charlie Kirk refused net Nahou
funding offer, was quote frightened by pro Israeli forces before
his death. Friend reveals all documented here. And so it's
funny how Neating Yahu came out right after Charlie Kirk
was snuffed out and was waxing lyrical about how great

(01:19:23):
he was and so forth. But this story tells some
aff a different story here. They put the move on
turning point and Kirk and Kirk apparently didn't want to
be owned by the Israeli government directly means one thing
to have the billionaire donor class. It's another thing to
have a mafia boss come and make an offer you

(01:19:46):
can't refuse. You see, it's here Kirk had come to
loathe the Israeli leader Nata Naho, regarding him as a
quote bully. The source said. Kirk was disgusted by what
he witnessed inside the Trump administration, where Netu sought to

(01:20:07):
personally dictate the presence personnel decisions and weaponize Israeli assets
like billionaire donor Mariam Addelson to keep the White House
firmly under its thumb. Okay, And it goes on and on.
At turning Point USA, the rift with Israel widens, so

(01:20:31):
you can see and the Epstein story obviously was a
was a big factor. Here is the Trump Trump being
forced to cover up the fact Jeff Epstein was a
Masad quote CIA asset. It was blackmailing top US politicians,
including presidents. So this is a high stakes game, folks.

(01:20:55):
Charlie Kirk was right in the middle of a high
stakes geopolitical game with a mafia state leaning on him,
a mafia state. Netanyahu is a representative of the Israeli mafia,
the international mafia, Zionis mafia. That's what Israel is. It's

(01:21:15):
a haven for criminals. And look at what they're doing
right now. If you have any doubt as to what
the state of Israel is or does, just look at
what they're doing in Gaza and tell me that's not criminal.
Tell me that is not the behavior of a mafia state.

(01:21:35):
How else are we supposed to put this? I don't
know how else to put it. And when you see
things like this, you really have to reconsider what we're
looking at, you really do so, as I said on

(01:21:58):
other programs, I think this was a professional hit. Whether
they finger the right person or whether there's a fall guy.
That's beside the point. It looks to me like a
professional hit. And who does professional hits? State actors? Which
state actor is engaged in the most political assassinations in

(01:22:19):
the last few years right now, it's Israel. Has Israel
done political assassinations on US soil and other countries foreign soils? Yes,
they have. Arguably there's a very strong case made by
many historians and researchers regarding the assassination of John F.
Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedy for that matter, but especially

(01:22:44):
jfk But we don't have to go back that far.
And it's funny that this happened on nine to eleven.
Symbolically or not, you can decide, But these things are
worth pointing out. So all of this stuff is going on,

(01:23:07):
We're just wanting to lay out some of the compelling
realities here, okay. And also to the fact that you
are being completely deceived and lied to most of the
time by government agencies, by the mainstream media, by the
Israeli lobby and these sort of interests. And just because

(01:23:31):
Trump is president doesn't mean that there's not going to
be heavy pressure to steer the narrative on this Charlie
Kirk story in a certain direction that includes on federal
agencies like the FBI and the ATF okay heavy pressure,

(01:23:52):
and you have all these pro Israeli zionists within the
Trump administration. So do we know for sure of No,
we don't. Is there a lot of circumstantial evidence? Yes,
a lot, a lot, a lot more than anti woke
sentiment that somehow or pro transshooter or whatever the stuff

(01:24:14):
that's being pushed out here. There's a lot of circumstantial evidence.
My personal opinion, you can't ignore that. You can't. This
is a high stakes game. High level political assassinations throughout
history is not a trivial thing. High stakes game, and
there is no higher stakes right now than what's happening

(01:24:35):
as we speak in the Middle East. Is where it
requires us backing to do what it's doing, and anything
that challenges that or puts that at risk, that's a
problem for the biggest, most vicious organized crime syndicate on
the planet, which the US is part of. Let's face it,

(01:24:59):
so again, Charlie Kirk is political cannon fodder. He was
used while he was alive, and he will be used
after that continuously by the same forces in order to polarize,
to divide, to stoke fear and division. This is what

(01:25:21):
he was used for when he was running Turning Point,
and it's what they will use him for after the fact.
And if anyone has a problem with me or anybody
saying that, that's your problem. These are the objective facts.
Like them or not. If you don't like them, I'm sorry,

(01:25:45):
this is not the show for you. But these are
things that I think are important and we need to
be thinking about. Let's take a break right now and
when we come back. This is a way longer segment
than I plan to do. I was going to knock
this out in forty minutes. It turned out to be
an hour and a half. So sorry, and the big
apologies to my cohort at ACR. Hopefully they'll stick around

(01:26:09):
for Overdrive. I'm Patrick Kenningson, your host. This is the
Sunday Wire, episode five hundred and sixty. We're talking about
the most important issues of the day, and this is
no exception. We'll come back in just a few minutes.
Until then, enjoy the music of Paoti for President. We'll

(01:26:32):
see in a minute.

Speaker 8 (01:26:46):
I love the pictures left dumb. I love the game
they left dumb, played all the left and the playground.
I love the odds they never made ghost faces.

Speaker 9 (01:26:58):
I'm a million callous Dan, your children, All of those
voices left in silence or with the names written in
kind lest their body is more vmorable, lifeless have tost

(01:27:18):
by those spaces?

Speaker 10 (01:27:21):
Are Amelia Palas Daniel children? What are the songs they
never written?

Speaker 8 (01:27:33):
What are the words they'll never saying? I have the
dumbness out them? Not there an escape of the rings?

Speaker 11 (01:27:42):
The ghost faces are a million pallas.

Speaker 12 (01:27:45):
Dan your children.

Speaker 10 (01:27:53):
I have a tryan helpless children, God's most precious and
most dear.

Speaker 13 (01:27:58):
I have the bagging the more the reason.

Speaker 8 (01:28:01):
How could you ever leave us here?

Speaker 10 (01:28:04):
I close the eyelids of Amelia Palaes Dan your children.

Speaker 9 (01:28:15):
So what do we really stand for?

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Is this how our futures may?

Speaker 10 (01:28:20):
And when we ever found that courage to stand help,
I'm afraid I tear away the persecution of the pales
Dania children.

Speaker 9 (01:28:38):
Rise up and be the guardians of the palace.

Speaker 11 (01:28:41):
Damn your children to respect our obligation and recreate.

Speaker 10 (01:28:52):
That information, because every soul deserves precession. Save the Palaes Damia,
Save Panis Danion.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Welcome back, lidies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the Sunday Wire.
I'm Patrick Kenningson, your host. We are streaming out live
on x Rumble, YouTube, Facebook Live as well as bit shoot,
as well as the audio streams after the program if
you subscribe to any of those Again, I'm Patrick Kenningson,
your host. Thank you for hanging with us. Very important discussion. Obviously,

(01:29:43):
we're just you know, giving you a you know, a
good sort of rounded, you know, analysis, if you will,
my personal opinion on these things. Try to keep it
based in real politic, and we're going to be pissing
off people on the right, pissing off the Zionists and

(01:30:05):
maybe pissing off the left as well. And I've always
believed and it's probably why why we struggle in the algorithms,
because I've always believed that if you're pissing off the
left and the right, you're probably doing a pretty good
job whatever that is, you know, in terms of media
or political commentary. But anyway, without further adoing, and bring
on some of my colleagues onto the program. Brian McLain

(01:30:30):
aka Hesher it's joining us on the live stream. Hello, Hesher,
How you doing.

Speaker 13 (01:30:36):
I'm a little tired to be quite frank Patrick. I've
been just monitoring these feeds and you know, checking out
what everybody else is doing, and you know, making sure
I had ten gazillion different links for boiler Room that
we did on Thursday that ended up being a four
hour program, and then and then and immediately after that,

(01:30:59):
like had to all straight into bed, And when I
woke up, it was like, oh, we've got the killer,
We've got the rifle, We've got you know. When I
went to sleep, it was like, we've got some you know,
Matt Wallace encouraged Ai Grock enhancements of the fuzzy picture
that from a ring camera that may or may not
be the the assassin, And it was just like okay, guys,

(01:31:22):
and I wake up and sure enough, yep, and then
it just explodes and tumbles and snowballs down from there
into you know, uh, normal kid, normal social for once.

Speaker 14 (01:31:32):
Here.

Speaker 13 (01:31:33):
There are some anti anomalies on this, which we can
get into in more detail later, but like a family
that actually has a normal looking social media presence and
the public knows who they are in the town, like that's,
you know, one of the normal things you would expect
to see, when usually what we get is a bunch
of abnormal things, social media accounts that are closed down,

(01:31:54):
only screenshots of them, et cetera. But anyways, it was like,
I started working that show page as soon as I
woke up that next day, and I've just been dumping
some supplemental links into it ever since, and it's turned
into a monster of a show page. I don't, you know,
you probably need AI to analyze all the links that
we have on this, And I'm personally just not surprised

(01:32:17):
and very disappointed that so many people have reverted to
believing whatever the mainstream media says and the government says
at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Yeah yeah, at that that roller coaster where they had
all these assumptions before they even had a suspect, which
really pissed me off. I mean, this was to me
a very ham fisted kind of narrative operation. But it
doesn't take much these days. You just fled the zone
with all sorts of chaos and wild speculation across the board,

(01:32:52):
and then they present this, you know, oh no, we've
got him this time. This is the one and Trump
says it's the one, so therefore no trial needed. Right,
everybody's already no no ballistics and no forensics, no Prince,
it's the guy and that's it, right, That's that's the
narrative basically. So Ruckus Adam Clark's joining us as well.

(01:33:14):
So Ruckus hasher has given given us his initial his
initial reactions. Obviously, the boy of the room tried to
crunch this thing later in the late in the week,
and uh was then upended by this this new shooter.
But your your your first impressions, and you know your
thoughts now on the Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 6 (01:33:36):
Uh, well, you know, of course I was there with
Hesher for the four hour marathon on Thursday, but the
day before I was on with Sam Cheney for Weaponized
News and did we lose Patrick?

Speaker 13 (01:33:49):
Uh, we might have. I guess we're hosting now regardless.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
So I did, sorry about that. I a Jeck button
by accident.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Yeah it happens. So yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:34:02):
So before the four hour post analysis that we did
on Boiler Room, I was with Sam Cheney on Weaponized
News for a couple hours and we did the thing.
But that morning on Wednesday, I had woken up and
first of all, I had already missed an entire day
because I thought it had been Tuesday. But I was
already fuming very early on over the poor, bizarre, bad

(01:34:23):
take reaction like this isn't good kind of feel with
the young lady who was stabbed in the throat and
all of the narratives that were starting to spin wildly
out of control with that. And it was in that
environment that the thing happened with Charlie. And at my
immediate reaction was I said a bad word. It was
the F word, followed by this isn't good. I said

(01:34:47):
it out loud, and that was my initial reaction, and
at the end of the day, ultimately that's still my reaction.
No matter we could sit here forever and analyze like
every single freaking angle about it, but no matter how
you slice it, the old result what this all means
at the end of this isn't good.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
This is not good, bad timing.

Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
I don't like the environment that this sort of thing
took place in because of what was happening with X
before this, all the things we're seeing under the second
administration under Trump, of course, the Israel thing and the
slow allowing of that discussion right before all this stuff happened,
which is something Hesher's been keeping a very close track
on since the Nick Fuentes on the stage, the yay

(01:35:28):
and doing the hooded thing on Alex Jones's show. Meanwhile,
some of us old school conspiracy theorist who are a
fan of Bill Cooper are like screaming at our computers
and into comments and into a voidness things that Alex
Jones might normally be pointing out back in the day, like, hey, guys,
you know, isn't that weird that the guy's name was
Charlie Kirk and that kind of has like a Freemason meeting.

(01:35:51):
Isn't it weird that the way he died and the
pos he did was exactly the entered apprentice and he
was shot in the throat.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
What's with all the thirty threes?

Speaker 6 (01:35:58):
Some of these bizarre questions that if Bill Cooper was
still with us, he would say, clearly, folks, this was
a sign, and we know who did it. It was
the same people who did JFK, so you know, but
these things are all ignored. Instead were like, no, that
wasn't the shooter. The shooter had a squeeze pistol. He
was standing next to the guy behind him was giving
hands signals and just all of that stuff is just

(01:36:18):
a waste of your time. Ultimately, we need to make
sure that we don't get divided, which is what they want.
Remember what this country was founded on. United We stand. Divided,
we fall. And if we want to analyze anything, let's
take a look at what you were analyzing brilliantly in
the beginning segment there, Patrick about we see the people
running around saying, oh, Israel did it, Israel did it,
but they don't offer any sort of actual evidence or proof. Instead,

(01:36:41):
they go with all these weird, shady things, assumptions and
conspiracy theories rather than examining what the man really did,
what his connections were like. You broke it down like
a true detective, true journalist. Brilliant and the world needs
more people like you in times like this. I'm happy
to be here, by the way, having me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Yeah, thank you for coming here. Scully the hypnos skull.
I freaking saw Timpoole praying to Charlie Kirk on his show. Yeah,
there's a prayer visuals going on. I mean someone said
they wanted him to lie in state in the Capitol
or at the White House or something, you know, the

(01:37:22):
open casket or whatever I mean. So it's it's the
martyrdom of this you know, fairly unremarkable political activist. He's
not a public intellectual, not by any stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 6 (01:37:42):
But it was truly Masonic by the way they would
they cast him out to the ocean. So if they
bury him at sea for no explained reason, I'm gonna
lose my mind and be like, what the heck is
going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Guys, I'm going to welcome Basil Valentine also onto the stream.
Hello Basil, Good.

Speaker 15 (01:37:57):
Good evening, gentlemen. Yeah, good to see you. Well again.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
I like what you've done to the library. That's a
that's uh I remember that's a real fixer upper property
there the ender or castle, you've got that sort of section.

Speaker 15 (01:38:11):
Yeah, it's in the east wing of Valentine Towers.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
Yeah, yeah, great, great to have you.

Speaker 15 (01:38:17):
With the old in the in the old part of
the Big House as we call it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
What what what's your impressions on this Charlie Kirk crisis phenomenon.
Assassination It's not really an assassination because he didn't hold
public office. It's it's a killing. It's a murder.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
I don't want to get into the nuts and bolts of.

Speaker 15 (01:38:37):
Well, I think I think the conspiracy theories are going
to run on for as long as they have on
John F. Kennedy or nine to eleven. But that's for
very good reason in those cases, because the official narrative
is such obvious bulderdash. People are now saying online that
the bloke who's been arrested doesn't look anything like the
photos released by the FBI. Of course, it's all very

(01:39:00):
neat that he was this sort of leftist transsexual activist
or something, and that the gun or the bullets were
engraved with messages, very very odd stuff. Strange that they
found the gun in a wooded area. There are no
photographs of the suspect with the gun. You know, the

(01:39:22):
speculation online that in fact he was shot by his
own security staff has showed short range that you know,
the pats he had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Why was he bundled into the back of an suv
and not an ambulance. A lot of speculation about who
this recently employed security crowd were, the hand signals they

(01:39:45):
were giving off before and the evidence against Israeli involvement
is purely circumstantial, but then it would be at this
point we don't expect them to own up to it
or for known moss Ad hit man to be arrested.
But you know, he is known to have started to

(01:40:07):
become critical of Israel, and in particular, his conversations with
Ben Shapiro online have been replayed many times. You know,
you know, was this ethnic cleansing. He came under tremendous
attack for continuing his friendship with people now described openly

(01:40:28):
as anti Seamites like Tucker Carlson, and having people who
question not only Israeli narratives but also aspects of what
we have to call the wider Jewish power configuration. There's
a clip of him saying that the Jewish billionaire donor
class are responsible for the open border policies and some

(01:40:48):
of the other neoliberal excesses that he railed against. Now
that's a no go area. You're not allowed to say
that if you're Charlie co You're not even really allowed
to say that, if you're Alex Jones. You're only allowed
to say that if your Stu Peters or something. You know,
So he had strayed off the reservation, and you know,
as although he wasn't well known in this country, he

(01:41:13):
carried a lot of weight, particularly with young conservatives, and
if he had decided, you know, woken up, as people say,
to the horrors of the Zionist entity, and it can
often be a case of scales falling from the eyes
and people suddenly say, oh my god, I think I've
been backing the wrong team this whole time, then that

(01:41:36):
would have had a tremendous effect. The Zionists are well
aware of the fact they've already lost the Democratic youth
and Democratic base. It's only the older boomers that stick
with the Chuck Schumer line. And if the same thing
happened in the Republicans, then it would only be a
matter of time for all their apac bribery before the

(01:41:58):
bottom fell out of some for Israel in the United States.
So they couldn't have that happening now, you know, as
I was saying, we don't know the forensics of the
whole thing yet. Be very interesting to see whether the
bloke who's been arrested ever comes to trial. Normally that's
not allowed to happen, or if it is, then it's
some kind of show trial.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
Like the.

Speaker 15 (01:42:21):
Boston bombers. What is particularly interesting in terms of the
circumstantial evidence that has turned up is the presence of
this George zinbloke who apparently saw the planes hit on
nine to eleven, was there for the Boston bombing, and
has turned up here again. So you know, there are
more questions than answers, as they say, and for the

(01:42:43):
moment at least, I'm keeping an open mind. I mean,
it's very unfortunate that if his opinion on Israel was changing,
that Charlie didn't get chance to live a few months
longer and make that public. There's all this business about
the invitation to Israel. That's what Letna who was crowing about.

(01:43:04):
Interesting that it was actually the Jerusalem Post that first
said he was dead, ahead of any other US news organization,
and Nenno who made four statements within twenty four hours
or something, and a mural of Kirk with angel's wings
appeared in Tel Aviv within a matter of hours of

(01:43:24):
his death, so you know, it's a lot of strange
stuff going on around it. Last piece of evidence, of course,
was this apparently a book on the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
which appeared on Amazon the day before he was killed.
That has since disappeared, but there was a book publication
date September the ninth, appeared on Amazon. So you know,

(01:43:47):
as far as I'm concerned, the jury is very much
still out.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Yes, there's some shocking points you've run down there, including
the mural and a little bit over the top and
then Yahoo. Just a quick point of note for all
of our guests and the audience. This is a comment
I've flagged down here by Kirk Lazarus masquerading his album
Martinez Resurrection. Why engrave bullets You're not going to use

(01:44:18):
since you shot at him. So that talking point about
the bullets engraved with trans or LGBT whatever, that turned
out to be false. That was a fake story pushed out,
which is interesting that they managed to push that out,
like who pushed it out and how it was pushed out.
That was to flood the zone, to misdirect people, to

(01:44:41):
get them into the left right ant woke, anti woke paradigm,
and it turned out to be completely fake. I think
it came via Trump, a Trump source.

Speaker 15 (01:44:51):
And there was some.

Speaker 6 (01:44:52):
Stuff with Crowder too. Crowder was letting loose some stuff
that turned out to be false. He was fed some
information that allegedly he believed was real and he just
ran with it and everybody picked up on it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
So that's pushed that narrative.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
Yeah, thank you for pointing that out, ruckus, because I
was going to comment on that as well, Like Steve
and all of these guys Okay, Steven Crowder and all
these YouTubers and podcasters and guys who basically make millions
a year from their podcast who when when that, you
know what hits the fan? These people are pushing out

(01:45:25):
fake news. All of these top people that everyone subscribes to,
they're pushing out garbage that's used to basically divide the
you know, divide the public and get people set people
against each other, like literally political agitation being done at
the top podcaster so called con inc level. I don't

(01:45:47):
know if has sure you have anything to say about that.
That really pisses me off that these guys get away
with this stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:45:54):
Now, this is one of the biggest red flags that
we have. The fact that they're has already been some
sort of program, some sort of strategy, some sort of
narrative being woven around this for some time now. And
you know, I think back to the Tennessee school shoot

(01:46:17):
up event and just I don't know, man, I don't
know these This is the I think that this narrative
that we're being fed right now. And I mean that
thing that Crowder did and put out, you know, he
was getting glad standed and shake handed all around the

(01:46:39):
podcast circuit, you know what I mean. Megan Kelly was
on his show telling him, how ever, since you're exclusive
this morning and blah blah blah, you know, and that's
right around the time people stop paying attention, because you
know what I mean, forty eight hours into something like
this is when most people are going to stop paying
attention now. And this is something that we pointed out

(01:47:00):
back after in what October of twenty seventeen. I've been
going through our archives recently, dusting them off and really
just looking at the titles and remembering the days and
thinking about what happened on Boiler Room that week, and
you know, it really is a companion. They are companion
shows like Pat and I we don't, you know, collaborate
on boiler Room and Sunday Wire, like what's going to

(01:47:25):
be on it? Like we just kind of know that
we're looking at the same things, similar things, and we
each have, you know, our own directions, as do all
our guests on both these shows. And you know, it
was like after anyways, back in twenty seventeen, after Paddock
and we did extensive exhaustive that was probably the last

(01:47:46):
exhaustive daily shooter event that I plugged everything into the
taxonomy that we've built over the years. You know, the who, what, when, where, why,
maybe a how and and all the anomalies and then
the mainstream narrative timeline and then all the interviews that

(01:48:07):
you could possibly capture, right, you just collect all this stuff.
And after Las Vegas, it was like, holy crap, there's
so much conspiracy, candy zone flooding happening here that I
have to basically accept that, Yeah, we kind of perfected
the daily shooter analysis taxonomy, which I still am very

(01:48:29):
proud of all of our work on that, but it's
not going to work anymore. It's not going to mean
anything because these things are just getting more and more complicated.
It's impossible as a citizen, and this is the most
insidious part, it's impossible as a citizen to come up
with your own analysis on these things. And the reason

(01:48:53):
that it's impossible. Is because the federal government, federal law enforcement,
local law enforcement, and whoever it is that hands the media.
You know, they're they're allowable, you know, Overton window, talking point,
yellow card. You know, here's the yellow card wall. We're
not gonna pull you unless you go this far or
start focusing on this and this and that. And the

(01:49:13):
other is that we don't will never know because they
redact everything. They don't make public, the police reports, they
don't make public, the autopsies, they don't make public, the
And I'm not saying we should have all these things
right after something happens. Personally, myself as a constitutional American,

(01:49:33):
if something like that happens, I would like to see
local sheriffs, local law enforcement deal with it, have a
proper investigation, have it, you know, fed into the into
the justice system, a jury of peers, decide what's going
to happen to that person, you know that that that

(01:49:55):
potential violent criminal. Uh, if they're convicted and then that's
carried out, and then at that point the records should
be wide open. And the same could be said for
nine to eleven. The same could be said for JFK,
MLK RFK. You know John Lennon. We could go down

(01:50:15):
the lost Boston Boston bombing right, all the school incidents, Leavaldi,
all those things should be completely available at least two
journalists and concerned citizens via Foyer report. And none of
it is. None of it is, none of it. You
can't get it. We've you've tried, Pat Mark Anderson has tried.

(01:50:38):
We know many journalists who have tried. We've seen what
they've been sent by the government or the law enforcement.
If they're sent anything, seventy pages of reactions, all this
stuff classified, and what is the what's the public left
to do? Make up their own story?

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Let me just let me on that point. Hasher The
whole Sandy Hook farrago was because they didn't release anything
for a year, and they wrapped it up and made
it into a federal case even though it was a statecase,
turned it into a federal case and had it under
the sort of national security envelope buttoned up. And so

(01:51:18):
what happened. Everyone started speculating, including Alex Jones. Okay, and
then the speculation built up to the point where they
had to start releasing stuff because they were under pressure.
And they finally started releasing information, but not after like
a long time, like twelve months or something, and then

(01:51:38):
they get upset when everyone everyone's conspiracy theorizing and speculating. Well,
it's their own damn fault, yes, because they're not being
transparent about it. And that goes for all of these
these high profile provocative mass shooting or daily shooter style
incidents or terror attacks, et cetera. It's the same thing. So,

(01:51:59):
I mean, we have a problem obviously, and just we
can't forget this comment by Ian taff Let's not forget
Trump just renamed the Department of Defense to the Department
of War. Okay, that that also happened this week. I mean,
so much has happened this week. They haven't spared anything
for us. But yeah, those are important points you've made

(01:52:23):
there as well. And also there's there's a I have
to I have to say. There's there's all these annoying
security experts. Have you seen them all over the news,
you guys on this. One of them is named Aaron Cohen,
who I absolutely can't stand. He's Israeli, He's Fox's go
to guy, and I just have a couple of choice clips.

(01:52:44):
I have to share this with you. It's apologized for
the recordings, they're literally camcorder off, the off, the off,
the plasma screen, just because the stuff is running on
the stream, uh, you know on Fox and stuff like that.
There's no other option. So here he is basically saying
that the shooter got lucky, literally saying it's not a professional.

(01:53:06):
He got lucky with the kill shot. And the second
clip is even worse. But listen, listen to this, you guys.

Speaker 8 (01:53:13):
Part of your.

Speaker 16 (01:53:15):
Whole getting Aaron Cohen is to profiles to make sure
that you know what's going on here.

Speaker 8 (01:53:19):
Could this guy be profiled?

Speaker 16 (01:53:20):
What's the next step for investigators looking at this? Well, so,
there's very good technical tools that have fallen into local
law enforcement's lab. There's flock systems for cameras which allow
license plates to be read. I'm sure that the Provo
Police Department, who I recently spoke to about Gideon not

(01:53:42):
long ago, choice we kicked him out alert, I guaranteed them,
and I actually made contact with them quietly to let
them know that we were going to be ramping up
the system for any additional attacks or copycatsts.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
Really and shot that.

Speaker 16 (01:53:57):
Out to twenty more agencies who are on the pilot.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Oh really, system which.

Speaker 16 (01:54:00):
Allows those Those cameras are essentially placed around counties and
around cities. They can read license place. They don't monitor
people's name and personal information like all considers, I really
will get you a license plate. So if this individual
jumped into a car, which he likely did, that'll get
dropped into the investigation. Once they get a make on that,
if possible, they can then start picking cell phone towers

(01:54:21):
to try and track down cell phones. That'll get thrown
into the mix as they start closing in on the investigation.
But really, I think the biggest concern now is hunting
down this shooter. Could be a collapsed ar could have
other pistols and weapons.

Speaker 8 (01:54:35):
It's who knows.

Speaker 16 (01:54:37):
Getting this guy in handcuffs and arrested. Everything else will
fall into place afterwards. But there's an active threat out
there and he needs to be cuffed immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
Right, So roll out the police state using Israeli tech, Okay,
And it's not going to do the personal data. They
know Israel does the personal data. That's how they're they're
they're they're pinpointing the assass nation of all these journalists
in Gaza using this tech that he says doesn't do
facial reckon. This is complete bullshit.

Speaker 15 (01:55:11):
Again. The speculation is that they've been listening into him
over the last couple of weeks, private conversations with perhaps
people like Candie in Sin, Tucker Carlson and were aware
of the fact that he was about to turn on Israel,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:55:24):
And it was Zionus money that built Turning Point, and
who has declared themselves the new leader of Turning Point
the USA, Ben Shapiro, no kidding, yeah, true, yeah. And
the whole point he's going to take up the cudgel
and go on the speaking to us, And the whole
point of Turning Point was that it was a Christian organization.
You know, at the end of the day, that was

(01:55:45):
Kirk's big message. I'm I'm a Christian and I believe
in Christian values.

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
It's been upgraded then Basil two a Judeo Christian or
so here's listen to Aaron Cohen. Here, listen to this one.
Hold on, let me bring bring him back.

Speaker 16 (01:56:00):
And was this did for all intents and purposes this
person missed by hitting the neck trace. My contention is
that you don't have to be an assassin to be
able to hit Charlie Kirk with a two two three
or a three h eight rounds. There's proficiency there, but.

Speaker 8 (01:56:18):
It was a calm day.

Speaker 16 (01:56:19):
There wasn't a lot of way down there. You just
needed to spend some time at the range. We have
guns in this country. You're never taking them away from Americans.
It is our right to be able to defend ourselves.
I wish there were more armed people in that crowd.
It would have been the force multiplier we need. We
arm our citizens in Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Oh did you hear that? You guys? We arm our
citizens in Israel. So he pivoted from being an American
security commentator right there on a dime, pivots to being
an Israeli pundent saying, our citizens in Israel I noticed
these things. I tend to notice these things, but other

(01:57:00):
people are not noticing them. Clearly, it is a molt.

Speaker 16 (01:57:04):
It is part of the multi layered process. We just
had a terror attack at a bus in Israel and
a civilian who just got his concealed permit ended up
taking out that terrorist and saving lives. As far as
the shot goes, wouldn't be surprised if the shot was
in that the head went into the neck or the
top of the chest. Play looks like the round might
have bounced the gont remember sharpshooting or sniping or long

(01:57:25):
long gunning. According to my good friend Chief Jake Fisher
and ALMANI has always been very clear about this. Long
gunning is not a two dimensional sport. It is a
three dimensional sport. And this individual, I believe gunning lucky
and I think it could have gone south. But the
fact that he managed to take down this jewel of

(01:57:46):
an American, this individual needs to be hunted immediately and
put down. And I think it's just a question of
time until they.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
Get Oh he just got lucky hesher with long gunning.
What a What a masterful analysis by Fox's number one
security pundit.

Speaker 13 (01:58:05):
This this is why the IDEF aren't allowed to roll
with their weapons chamber. They apparently don't know much about firearms.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
I mean, you just got lucky there. And so it
wasn't a professional assassin. This wasn't a professional hit. It's
just a guy kind of made his way onto the
roof and you know he's Bennett. You just need to
go to the range a couple of times. That's what
Aaron Cohen just said. I just need to go to
the range a couple of mornings, you know, and get lucky.

Speaker 13 (01:58:34):
Okay, what this one is? Just like okay, I think
it's a red herring the whole Like, how professional was it?
Could a normal, you know, twenty two year old with
a trans roommate, you know, Trantifa style person like pull

(01:58:55):
that off? I personally, The one thing he did say
there that I would agree with is, Yeah, two hundred
yards is not that hard of a shot, and anyone
with you know, a week of like serious training at
the range could learn how to do that with a
Mouser thirty six. It is possible. I do not discount

(01:59:21):
that as a possibility. But I'm just not going to
waste much time thinking about it because it just doesn't
It feels like I'm being stuck in a cul de
sac and trying to examine, you know, something that's very
minor on a large, a much larger system of systems.
I do have my questions about that rifle. They're telling

(01:59:43):
us that they've confirmed that that is the rifle. They've
got a picture of it. It's it's a Mouser bolt
action long rifle. It's very capable of doing that shot.
I think it's pretty obvious that he was not wearing
any sort of soft armor. He was definitely not wearing

(02:00:04):
a plate carrier. Alex Jones's hot take right when he
saw it was that, oh, he got shot in the chest,
and maybe the bullet fragmented and went upward and and
again when you watch the close up footage, I'm sorry.
If you did watch the close up footage, it was
pretty nasty. It didn't look fake to me. I know

(02:00:24):
a lot of people are wondering if the whole thing
is is fake, and that of course really grinds some
people's gears, you know, But I'm I'm just like, I
can't discount anything at this point. I've seen so much
shenanigans and I already know what's gonna happen. I'm not
gonna get a full police report. I'm not going to
get an autopsy. I'm not going to get any sort
of forensics. All I'm gonna get is media narrative and

(02:00:47):
social media, you know, soundbites and conspiracy theories. So it's like,
you know, it did. I did notice that on the rifle.
Many people have noticed that the scope was not mounted
in a in a way a normal shooter would mount
of scope on there. It's the ocular lenses too far
back in the rings. There's two rings that hold a

(02:01:07):
scope on a rifle, and the scope can slide forward
and backward in there and twist right so you can
get it lined up level and you can set your
what they call your focal distance from your optic lens.
And it looked to me like it was slid all
the way back in the rails, which number one would
make it hard to get a good site picture. Number

(02:01:30):
two make it hard to keep a good site picture,
and number three probably smack you in the eye when
you break the shot. And I'm also seeing really stupid stuff.
Some of this came from the FBI presentation the next
day on what was I guess two days later on
the twelfth, there's all this talk about how the rifle

(02:01:51):
got to the roof, how it got off the roof,
and these insane theories about Oh, well, he pre state,
here's some of the just ludicrous stuff that I've heard
that we're supposed to just accept.

Speaker 1 (02:02:03):
From the media.

Speaker 13 (02:02:04):
He prestaged it on the roof, he climbed up on
the roof, he used it. He then broke it down,
took it apart, put the barrel inside his pant legs,
ran back into the woods, reassembled it, wrapped it in
a towel, and then scurried off. Are you kidding me?
Watch someone break down a mouser on rumble. You probably

(02:02:24):
can't watch it on YouTube, but watch someone break this
rifle was This rifle was made in the late eighteen
hundreds or early nineteen hundreds, and this round, it's still
a very popular hunting round. The thirty six was developed
after World War One. So I just have a hard
time seeing someone in modern times choosing that for you know,

(02:02:48):
that purpose. There are so many other things that someone
with a serious intent might pick. But hey, is it
all plausible?

Speaker 1 (02:02:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (02:03:00):
It sure seems implausible. Lots of it seems implausible to me.
But at the same time, it's nothing that we can
go on. It proves and disproves absolutely nothing nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
Yeah, I mean, if this is a court of law,
if this is a proper crime scene investigation, we can't
go on anything at the moment. And that's important. I mean, journalistically,
that's the correct position to take everything else's speculation. We're
free to do analysis on all of this stuff. If
that's what anyone wants to do. But you can't make
a definitive conclusion about really anything, much less say that

(02:03:36):
this the purp is the guy who did it. That's
the furthest thing from the truth at the present moment.
What do you guys? Did you guys catch Alex Jones's
reaction to this straight out of the gates and we're
going to play this And by the way, David Ike
totally went for Alex basically hardcore, and that was pretty

(02:03:56):
surprising because usually you don't see that level of a
rift in the independent media. Here's here's one of Alex's
reactions to the Charlie Kirk killing. This is dangerous.

Speaker 8 (02:04:08):
This is a war.

Speaker 15 (02:04:08):
This is a war. This is a war. This is
the war.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
This is dangerous.

Speaker 8 (02:04:12):
This is a war.

Speaker 15 (02:04:12):
This is a war. This is a war.

Speaker 1 (02:04:14):
He's basically saying, where at war with the left? I
don't have the exact clip, there's such so many of
putting online, but he immediately framed it as you know,
this is this is sort of the left, the radical
left here and where it war. Let me see if
I've got this one here.

Speaker 4 (02:04:36):
When I saw this happen and I got the report
for crowded from the ATF. It fit exactly in with
what we saw two weeks ago in Minnesota and the
rest of us. This is eight pro trans shooters, anti
fascist shooters as they call it, x Rol Hitler in
a row and that we've got all these serial killer groups,
you name it. This is their mentally ill army.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
That Okay, guys, he just quoted Crowder and the AT
that turned out to be fake, right, am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (02:05:04):
The one that was the one?

Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
Yeah? So Alex with his mega audience ran with that,
and look what happened. So how many millions of people
believe that this was that there was trans uh? Things
carved on the AMMO millions.

Speaker 13 (02:05:21):
Tens of millions, probably imagin.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
Tens of millions. This is so is exactly the worst
piss poor journalism. I mean, these people, uh, they don't
care actually because they all they do is just talk
twenty four hours a day and then they'll just come
and pivot and say, oh, maybe we got that wrong,
you know, like the next day. Meanwhile the impression has

(02:05:43):
been made on everybody politically. These people don't give a
flying you know what if there's if people people will
end up getting killed, injured, as a result of what
some of these pundits are pushing very divisive narratives that
were the Civil War type narratives, when in fact, the

(02:06:04):
circumstantial evidence, hello, Hello, the overwhelming circumstantial evidence is that
this is a professional hit. And who does professional hits?
What was the political who benefits who? Or who would
have had a problem with Kirk? Might have been Israeli interests.
I mean, it's a legitimate argument, but Alex won't make

(02:06:25):
that argument, will he, Basil? Will Alex even go there?
I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
No.

Speaker 15 (02:06:33):
I mean, it's reminiscent of the jfk assassination of public execution,
and that's usually a demonstration of power, you know, rather
than sort of a the old loan random gunman, you know,
which just inherently I'm very reluctant to buy. You know,

(02:06:54):
this was the very deliberate silencing of an important voice
in the United States. It and a sort of reminder
who's in charge, rather than I think, you know, the
actions of the the old loan nut. You know, it's
very very rarely that it's the loan nut, but the
loan nut is the easiest one to frame.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
Hesher. Your your thoughts on on that.

Speaker 13 (02:07:22):
Uh, this whole thing is exactly kind of what I
was alluding to when I was talking about Las Vegas.
It's like and and every event we've seen since then,
pretty much there's like a daily shooter suspect for every
confirmation bias, identity politic you could possibly imagine now And

(02:07:47):
and that became super obvious when the trans shooter became
a thing. It was like, oh, okay, you can almost
just smell the baton handoff between the different mints. When
you see the narratives behind the daily shooter programs now
it's like, oh, these are you know what I mean.
Back in the day, they were clearly designed to demonize Arabs, Muslims,

(02:08:13):
and right wing extremists. And now they're they're they're being
cast on every identity politic, every racial class, every uh,
everything you could possibly think of, right.

Speaker 15 (02:08:26):
I mean, under the Biden administration, suddenly it was white
supremacist white nationalists that were the biggest threat. As you say,
the baton has now been passed to now that there's
a Republican administration to transactivists Nettigna, who's been conjuring up
a new fabricated synthetic demon in this form of is

(02:08:46):
Lamo Marxism. He's trying to you know, on American television.
He's been trying to say that this guy and somehow
the resistance in Gaza, for example, a linked. I mean,
it's really really bizarre stuff. But as usual, the attempt
is through a tremendously traumatic act. Worth bearing in mind
the sort of a trauma based mind control aspects of this.

(02:09:11):
He's trying to direct American minds in a particular way
with always one that serves his interests, and once again
manages to start demonizing Palestinians as a result of this.

Speaker 1 (02:09:25):
You know, yeah, here's well, I don't know, we'll have
bring this up on screen again. Here's Alex Jones. I mean,
we're not picking on Alex, but he is very high
profile and he's everything he puts out goes viral.

Speaker 4 (02:09:43):
Less than an hour ago, Charlie Kirk was out in
Utah at major university, thousands people at a tenants and
they say they have an older man in custody. You see,
Charlie Shott. You see a big concussion. Maybe it's a
bulletproof vest causing it. Perhaps the bullet and bounced off
that one front and armory. But there's blood just viewing everywhere.
From what I saw. There are rumors online that he's dead.

(02:10:06):
If he's not dead, it is a miracle. Pray for
him and pray for his family. But I keep explaining,
we're okay. Let me go back to that old done
put a sword in his hand of information or going
out to all these places having these great debates. You know,
people say, oh, he's not hardcore enough. He's there, get
people to wake up, get a register of about Republican.

Speaker 1 (02:10:25):
That was his role.

Speaker 4 (02:10:26):
And he was a champion and Trump wouldn't have goun
reelected without him. And now he's definitely five for his life.
And I when I saw on the footage, He's probably
made the jump into iver'space. But I'm not saying that
one hundred percent, but he is here dead. So you know,
I'm not scared to be killed. And I have do
public events and things, but I get do so much

(02:10:46):
more digitally or hitting runs just popping up in public. Wait,
I mean, I have no doubt I'd probably be dead
or been shot at least wounded if I announced things
that we Charlie did. That's why I strategically didn't do it.
And not a fear of a shot. I just was like,
I can do so much more writing and covering things

(02:11:08):
to videos.

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:11:10):
And and you know, because when you're in this clown
on the left and kill everybody, they're shooting up Catholic
churches and stabbing white girls and these are white and
all the rest of it.

Speaker 15 (02:11:19):
This is dangerous.

Speaker 8 (02:11:20):
This is a war.

Speaker 1 (02:11:21):
This is okay. So the stabbing again, this is right
on the back end of the stabbing. So the stabber
who clearly was mentally deranged, probably on drugs or meds.
Was he a self identified member of the quote left. Uh,
that's not confirmed, but Alex is pushing that that that

(02:11:42):
was a a race stroke left right thing. Uh, it's
just he's stacking one on top of the other.

Speaker 12 (02:11:50):
This is a war.

Speaker 15 (02:11:51):
This is a war. This is the war.

Speaker 4 (02:11:52):
The one that spits on Ed Martin says, I hope
you hope you die or whatever that's sees people are
and they wounded a bunch of crazy. So that's a
Podesta called for in August two thousand of Trump was
one they were gonna stage civil war. And then when
Trump won again, they said, okay, we're going with the
no Kings all of it. So this is it. Get ready,

(02:12:15):
they're terrorists, they mean business. So just department's got to
move hyper speed to arrest of leadership. That's the main focus,
not Trump getting sucked into this false flag on Russia
with the drone just like to the last you two
years ago got cot shooting missiles into Poland.

Speaker 1 (02:12:32):
Okay, So Alex, instead of calming it down, he's amping
it up. This is war. The Trump should go use
the federal government to go after the opposition's leadership. So
he's created a whole story here and you know, trying
to basically rally his troops to basically go to war.
So instead of calming it down, right, instead of instead

(02:12:55):
of calming it down, he is amping it up. And
so they've they've radicalized the left with wokeism over the years,
and then they've radicalized the right with anti wochism and
the result is this they only we need to it's war,
civil war. I mean, these people. What really pisses me

(02:13:18):
off about these people who are pushing this narrative is
that the big pushers of the narrative have monetized this
sort of hysteria. They're making money out of it. You know,
they've monetized the heightening of political division and which will

(02:13:40):
lead to political violence. And then what they feel safe
to do it because what they're they're guys in power,
because Trump's in power. They say, oh, the federal Government's
got our back on this, the FBI's got our back
on this, so we can we can incite. Is that
could that be considered incitement? I mean, it's a level

(02:14:02):
of incitement on the spectrum of incitement. Maybe it's not
directly yelling fire in a crowded theater, but he's certainly
not helping the situation in my estimation a by speculating
that this was a left right assassination, which there's no
evidence of that right, So then what what does that

(02:14:23):
leave it? Where does that leave us trying to evaluate
this objectively? Ruckus?

Speaker 6 (02:14:29):
Any thoughts did you catch he gave himself away there
in the middle of all that he said that there
were things that Charlie Kirk was saying and was willing
to say that he wasn't Alex Jones for strategic purposes.
I think what you just described was the strategic reasons
that he was discussing is because of the money, and
he didn't want to lose sponsors or get in trouble

(02:14:49):
or whatever. And also because I was curious when you
played the beginning of the clip earlier, was that a
loop where he said war three times in a row?
He really said it's three times in a row.

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
He said it that way, he says, I thought it
was a loop because it was a short clip the
first one I played. But then on that long clip
he did repeat it.

Speaker 6 (02:15:07):
Yep, and so and the thing is it and yeah,
And that's very important right there, that he had to
repeat it. He's definitely part of all of this stuff
in my personal opinion. Now this is just more smoking
gun evidence for this conspiracy theorist right here. But anyways,
all that aside, you can't deny the fact that all
of the big conservative voices, including the conservative alternative media voices, basically,

(02:15:32):
if you're one of those folks the MAGA crowd or
close to them, and you had the blue check mark
next to your name and ran with this type of stuff,
they all also immediately came out saying the exact same
three words, this is war. I can't find it, but
there's plenty of examples of it. In fact, it's probably
in the show notes for boiler Room hesher correct me

(02:15:53):
if I'm wrong, where there's a screenshot of all of
the people and all their immediate posts and all the
big blue check marks saying all the same thing, this
is war, This is war, This is war. And then
our friend and colleague, the odd man out shout out
to him, was discussing or pointing out on Facebook earlier
about how people were commenting that America has changed, nothing

(02:16:15):
is ever going to be the same again. You keep
hearing this talking point over and over again. And that's
the exact type of reaction and the talking point that
was coming from the mainstream media at the time right
out in the aftermath of the towers being hit on
nine to eleven in two thousand and one. So I'm
just like, the parallels between the way people are reacting,
i e. How they're being socially engineered to react is

(02:16:37):
quite telling. And it all just leads to the ultimate
thing which I keep flashing on my screen. Here this
the nineteen eighty four the discussion about how they changed
the Department of War and all that that's straight out
of Big Brother. And then that guy running around promoting Gideon.
I mean, come on again, straight out of nineteen eighty four.
It doesn't get any more or willian than all of this,

(02:17:00):
is it?

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
Patrick? You acapoco Elvis B fifty two. Diplomacy is what
miss Lindsay Linz Graham wants. Yeah, well, taken the point there,
of course, Alex Jones. I mean, listen, when all your
sponsors are you know, survival firearms related, storable foods, and

(02:17:22):
then you go, you're using your platform to call for
a civil war or basically say this is war, this
is war, this is war. There has to be a
little bit of a problem with that, a big problem
with that in fact, and you know, pointing that out
should not be controversial. I don't think if you consider

(02:17:43):
yourself to be conservative or libertarian or Republican or whatever,
I personally think a lot of this stuff is you know, fabricated, exaggerated,
but at some point it can become real. It only

(02:18:05):
takes a couple of incidents to really I mean, that's
my That was my problem with putting troops on the
street to do law enforcement, because it only takes one
one member of the public to get injured or killed
or shot by a military person that all hell breaks loose,
all hell breaks loose domestically or vice versa. Somebody hurts

(02:18:29):
a soldier or kills a soldier in the line of
quote duty on the streets of Baltimore because Trump deployed
them to stop petty crime or whatever, and then all
hell breaks loose because the right will be basically calling for,
you know, a fascist revival. At that point, Let's send
drones in. Let's let's snuff them out with with predator drones.

(02:18:52):
All these gang members. Oh, there's Ms thirteen in that
building there doing Israel. Take the building out, doing Israel.
There's people on the right in the Trump camp that
would go that far if the opportunity arose. Trust me,
they'll say publicly. That's the atmosphere we have in America

(02:19:13):
where people are free to say these things. And these
are people that are in wey ty positions. They're not trivial.
These are not like random pundits talking like this, you know,
deport them, arrest them. We're talking about deporting American citizens.

Speaker 15 (02:19:30):
Now, well, I mean Rubio has jumped on it, hasn't he,
and said that you might have your passport taken away
if you criticize Israel. And of course a bill was
rushed through Congress in the immediate aftermath of Kirk's assassination,
which has similarly outlaws criticism of Israel for American citizens.

(02:19:56):
So just a coincidence that nothing to worry about.

Speaker 1 (02:19:59):
What do does the shooter gain? Basil hesher ruckis quick, quick,
quick fire around what does the shooter gain? We asked
this for all daily shooter events. Of course, it's kind
of a fundamental question. No manifesto, no four ch eight
chan action, Basil. What does the shooter gain by destroying

(02:20:20):
his entire life as family in his future?

Speaker 15 (02:20:22):
That all depends on who it is. You know, if
the shooter is in fact the Patsy, then I suppose
good question. You know, the idea is that this traditional
Christian conservative voice has been silenced, and you know that
particular faction have demonstrated in the most gruesome way possible

(02:20:46):
that they, you know, they're willing to use violence to
achieve their ends. But if it isn't the Patsy, and I'm,
as I said, extremely dubious about who did it, well,
then the answers as to who benefits become much more complex.
Like I said, Ben Shapiro's taken over wants to take

(02:21:06):
over turning Point USA. A new Marta has been made
as well, hasn't it. You know, the the legacy of
Charlie Kirk and who he was is now going to
be sort of embalmed, gilded and enshrined forever. And I
fear that it will be some form of and I

(02:21:30):
use the term with the reservation Christian Zionism, I think
actually a contradiction in terms you can't be a Christian
Zionist at the same time. But I think what we've
already seen, indeed from Nettiyahuu and his cohorts, that just
before Charlie, if indeed he did strayed too far off
the reservation, a seal can now be put on him

(02:21:55):
and who he was, and he can be held up
as this wonderful champion for Israel. And if he'd lived
another six months and the worm had genuinely turned, then
that would no longer be the case. You know, his poster,
his picture, was much in evidence at the Tommy Robinson
organized Unite the Kingdom rally in London yesterday. My god,

(02:22:21):
what an extraordinary spectacle that was. It featured. Get this, guys,
you can hardly believe it. Well, First of all, there
was not everyone at all, by no means, but there
was a small coterie of demonstrators chanting you can shove

(02:22:42):
your Palestine up your ass, forgive me for the language.
That was quoted by David Collier, one of Britain's most
ardent Zionists, and he tweeted that back out. And then extraordinarily,
group of Maoris who had been flown over by Robinson,

(02:23:05):
perhaps their airfares were paid paid for by Elon Musk,
who popped up on the big screen to give a
message of support to Robinson. The Maoris took to the
stage and ripped up a Palestine flag, which when you
consider that they themselves have been the victims of colonization,

(02:23:26):
then that really is just about the most retarded thing imaginable.

Speaker 1 (02:23:32):
Uh yeah, all you dropped Tommy Robinson there, Tony. By
the way, just on UK column on Friday, I did
a little history segment at the end the cross of
Saint George. Okay, Saint George. His father was a Turk,
his mother was a Palestinian. Saint George spent the most

(02:23:54):
of his life in Palestine. He's venerated as a Palestinian hero,
fought the Romano pressors, he's Palestinian, So Saint George, which
Tommy Robinson likes to wrap himself in, is a Palestinian war.

Speaker 3 (02:24:07):
That the shooter's last name, by the way, is Robinson.

Speaker 6 (02:24:11):
And apparently the suspect lives in Saint George, Utah, near
Zion National Park.

Speaker 3 (02:24:17):
I can't make this.

Speaker 1 (02:24:19):
Yeah, whoa holy smokes ruckus? I mean, it's not telling.

Speaker 3 (02:24:25):
You there's there's way too many things.

Speaker 6 (02:24:26):
And the guy's name Kyler, obviously, if you know anything
about freemasonry, that's the senior officiat during.

Speaker 3 (02:24:31):
A sword who stands guard at the door of the lodge.

Speaker 6 (02:24:35):
Which is supposed to keep out Cowen's and evesdrop evesdroppers.

Speaker 3 (02:24:39):
I think that's the word.

Speaker 1 (02:24:40):
Yeah, is there any thirty three number dropped into this?

Speaker 6 (02:24:43):
Waited thirty three hours to reveal the name of the suspect,
and then Charlie had three of the trump hats that
say forty seven laid out in front of him. So
three eleven's thirty three and the suspect was twenty two.
Both of those are master numbers. One is the master
builder and the master teacher. It's all related to free stuff.
Is wild man crazy?

Speaker 1 (02:25:04):
The numerology Ruckus. This is what makes our head spin,
hesher your thoughts, what what? What did the shooter? What
would he benefit from? This? Is that this is the
problem with the motive, you know, think about it besides
what we think it is. Yeah, I mean, how how
you know? Well, I.

Speaker 13 (02:25:24):
Cynthia asks a good question, what would the quote unquote
shooter kid? Why would the quote unquote shooter kid destroy
his entire future? And you know, Okay, let's just pretend
for a second everything's above board with this narrative that
we're given, and we do have a legal process go
go down, and we are given evidence to prove everything
that the media is saying right now or you know,

(02:25:46):
expel the misinformation, disinformation and malinformation that they claim to
not like. Right, let's just say all that happens and that, yeah,
this was some sort of uh, you know, recently internet
radicalized Antifa style, you know, ally to the militant wing

(02:26:09):
of the LGBTQ. I A, did you like that? That
was quite a word, salad. I'm impressed with it myself.
Let's just say all that is is is the fact, right,
What does the person gain from it? Well, the person's
a schizophrenic lunatic, probably on SSRIs and other drugs. And
by the way, that would be something we would want

(02:26:29):
to see disclosed in these reports too, the human toxicology
on the person, the psychology ride up, the toxicology rite up,
what medications were they on? You know, go to able
Child if you want to read more about that stuff.
It's fascinating and something we've been talking about for over
a decade now. So that person gains in their sick

(02:26:50):
twisted mind, they gain notoriety, they gain infamy in their
community of people, if you will, and really nothing more
than that, or you know, they also get the the
hero complex of the mass media telling them for the
last eight years that the people that he hates is

(02:27:11):
supposed to hate are literally hitler literally Nazis, literally white supremacists,
you know what I mean. So it's like, in a
sick twisted mind like that who's had an NPC media
injected psychology, that's what they gain. If it's not that,
and it's the other thing that we're afraid it is,

(02:27:31):
what that person gains is a pat on the back
their paycheck and knowing that they've done their part to
do whatever it is that whoever employs them wants and
that effect, my friends, I think was illustrated by the
whole civil war comments. That's what this is pushing towards.
This is about radicalizing people on the right using culture war,

(02:27:57):
you know, perceived loss of the culture war or you know,
perceived loss of the country due to the effects of
culture war, so that we'll be at each other's throats,
at each other's throats, and who is it that's going
to fight this civil war? By the way, have you
gone to the grocery store in America lately? I don't
see a lot of people looking like they're going to
be fighting in a civil war. So, you know, do

(02:28:20):
we really want to push this rhetoric because I think
we all know and love a lot of people around
us who are not capable to fight in a civil
war or even you know, have any concept of what
that might entail.

Speaker 1 (02:28:33):
What it entails is if you have sporadic unrest, and
then that gives the federal government carte blanche to ramp
up the police state to new and spectacular levels of
a surveillance and with pulling back our rights basically, and
that's just been a pattern through various administrations for the

(02:28:55):
last thirty years ruckus. I see you nodding and any
other comments.

Speaker 6 (02:29:02):
I'm like, I would visualize in your head the Leonardo
DiCaprio getting up out of his chair and pointing when
Patrick said that right there.

Speaker 1 (02:29:12):
Yeah, so there it is. Shapiro becomes new head of
a conservative Christian organization. Wow. I mean you couldn't make
that up, right, if that happened.

Speaker 3 (02:29:23):
I heard about that and I did some digging.

Speaker 6 (02:29:25):
That's not like an official thing, but the general Yeah,
the idea is a rumor picking up the mantle by
doing the same type of thing that Charlie was doing.
But the way people latched onto that again, this is
what we see over and over again.

Speaker 3 (02:29:37):
They'll just take it in.

Speaker 6 (02:29:38):
They'll put their little siren on X and they'll say
breaking in capital letters and just report that as though
it's fact. Ben Shapiro has bought Daily Wires, bought out
Turning Point. You saw those headlines and then like millions
of views, no retractions. Did Alex Jones retract what he said?
Did Stephen krowd I'm actually Stephen Crowder had to come
out and retract something to the right side. You should

(02:29:59):
probably consider doing retractions, because that's what the left is
doing right now, and just in case they come back
into power during the next administration or the one after that,
you might be wishing that you had retracted some of
the stuff you've been saying. But Stephen King has even
been retracting some of the stuff he said in error.
So it's always take the high ground and just don't
even report on it till you know for a fact.
And if you say something wrong, come out and say,

(02:30:20):
oh my god, I'm so sorry. Everybody, it's very important
for you to know I was wrong, and here's the truth.
But who the f does that anymore?

Speaker 1 (02:30:27):
Right? Yeah? And yeah, good, all good points Ruckus. Of course,
that's what we all should be doing that and we do.
We do, and I can speak for everybody in this
room right here, this virtual room. I think we do,
and we have done for a very long time, and
we will continue to into the future. Mormon Freemasonry Coupled

(02:30:49):
with this comment, Utah was supposed to be the new Zion.
He's talking to Ruckus there, and Rugus pointed out a
lot of the symbolism as well as previous comment or
said that there's an LDS branch of the CIA. That's
true that's very true. So there's there's that side of things,
Utah being used for this incident, for this event, the

(02:31:15):
death right, what data centers, Yeah, Basil, go ahead.

Speaker 15 (02:31:20):
Well I've just discovered that Tyler Robinson himself has pleaded
not guilty and is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement.
Talking head on folks New said, but everyone around him
is cooperating. What I mean, if they've got him bang
to rights, they've got the gun, they've got his apparently

(02:31:43):
his minister and his father who turned him in. What
would be the point of him denying it at this point?

Speaker 1 (02:31:50):
Yeah, yeah, so not guilty, plead. This is interesting. This
is interesting. Reminds me the Boston bomber case as well.
That's just so what a ridiculous circus that became. Uh So, Yeah,
I mean the engagement you guys today has been like
way more than are we normally get. And we and

(02:32:11):
we've been getting a lot of comment engagement. It's literally
uncontrollable the amount of comments coming in on YouTube and
Rumble right now. I mean we're into the thousands of comments.

Speaker 6 (02:32:24):
I mean, I'm watching the scroll go up and down
and I'm like getting seasick.

Speaker 1 (02:32:28):
So insane. So I want to say thank you to
our you know, our viewers and our listeners on the
different platforms for your engagement. We're trying to pick some
of the best comments, obviously, and we there's so many,
so we we literally can't show every you know all,
even all the best ones, we can't show it. So

(02:32:48):
we missed a few. Sour apologies for that. And this
one's interesting. Ian taff If the shooter kid is MK
ultra a is ambition, is no doubt removed? Yeah, technical
that might be the case. We can't write off these things, obviously,
especially with what we know historically.

Speaker 6 (02:33:08):
So really, does anyone have any updated and have we
learned more about like any actual autopsy type information like
did the bullet interest or did it go across it
and slash it?

Speaker 1 (02:33:18):
The ricochet yeah, from the chest that he was wearing
a bulletproof vest and it might have RICOCHETA. I don't
know about any of that, hesher, Have you heard anything
or see anything on that?

Speaker 13 (02:33:28):
No, I'm just curious why it is I'm seeing pictures
of him in his casket, like, you know, thirty six
hours from the event, and why I'm seeing non law
enforcement people like like break in the crime area, in
the crime scene, like what was that?

Speaker 3 (02:33:45):
Like das right behind him, m hm.

Speaker 13 (02:33:50):
Yep, Like Basil mentioned the suv. I mean, none of
these things explain anything, but they all seem anomaloust to me,
Like how does that happen? Like you've what the hell's
going on here?

Speaker 15 (02:34:04):
There's stuff on social media saying Turning Point USA have
a video of the shooting, which shows numerous people in
the crowd being involved and though of course, was at
least one person who appeared to jump up in celebration
of the Yeah, I mean, we don't you know, again,
we don't know yet. I haven't seen that video.

Speaker 13 (02:34:21):
I saw that video and it's weird. It's and none
of it proves anything. It's all just weird. You know,
You've got a guy in the crowd acting as a distraction.
You've got people outing him for previous you know, high
profile things he's been involved with and associations and his background.
It's just like it's too much, this is too much data.

(02:34:44):
And the thing is like, if if anything like this
had happened in my entire lifetime, where I felt like
I had been you know, access to the real information
and something other than a media and intelligence agency narrative.
I would just be you know, chilling right now and
waiting for the outcome and things you know would be
tragic but normal, And I wouldn't have to sit here

(02:35:05):
and spend you know, two and a half hours, you know,
my entire week wargaming this, doing game theory, trying to
put data points in different buckets worth looking at again,
not worth looking at again, conspiracy, conspiracy candy, you know,
click bait. Like, there's so many different categories of data

(02:35:27):
that we're just having shoved down our throats right now,
and all the one thing we do have in common,
I hope, at least in this room and in this audience,
is all of us know something isn't right, and whoever
benefits is not going to be us.

Speaker 1 (02:35:45):
Patrick, you need to read what the LDS believe about Israel.
Look it up, says old fashioned by choice.

Speaker 3 (02:35:53):
Essent you a link for that path if you're interested.

Speaker 1 (02:35:55):
Ruckus is on the case. Rugus, give us a synopsis. Please, Well,
I mean.

Speaker 6 (02:36:00):
You're going to Yeah, I think you're going to have
to take a look into this yourself. You might this
might be very useful for you for future.

Speaker 1 (02:36:06):
Okay, Yeah, definitely drop drop it in our our other
back line chat, our ACR chat for that, I would
definitely take a look at that. I had read up
on this years ago. I had done sort of deep
dives and stuff, including reading the whole book as well
the book.

Speaker 6 (02:36:23):
And then of course I'm sure people in case you
didn't know, everybody, Yes, there's a there's a huge amount
of bizarre correlations going on with the Mormon stuff and
again freemasonry.

Speaker 3 (02:36:32):
So do with that information, which you will.

Speaker 1 (02:36:36):
Yeah, yeah, don't go crazy, too crazy on it. And
uh yeah, finally here forensics of a fake murder weapon,
fake suspects, the shooter. The sniper's long gone, folks, long gone,
long gone. Why everyone's chasing all the fake decoys? You
remember the seventy year old man? And so there we go.

(02:36:58):
There's there's a.

Speaker 3 (02:37:00):
Is he on the plane though? That turned off its
trans There's always that.

Speaker 1 (02:37:04):
Yeah, it was okay, what the private jet that turned
off its transponder? Yeah that's not sus Is it is that?
Sus No, it's not so. I mean listen, and I
want to just get your guys comment on this thing.
Sean Hannity basically pushing the gifts and go for the
Kirk family on this was this is post on the twelfth,

(02:37:27):
So Sean Hannity, who himself's worth probably I don't know,
fifty hundred million or whatever. Charlie Kirk lives in a
six million dollar the Kirk family six million dollar estate
in Scottsdale, Arizona. It's one of the most affluent neighborhoods
in the country. Charlie Kirk is a multimillionaire because of
turning point. Do you think they reached their million dollar

(02:37:50):
goal within twenty four hours or something? They have a
million dollars already there.

Speaker 6 (02:37:55):
It is there is before or after this alleged I
don't know his name, but there's a famous well, I
guess a football player. You don't have to be too
famous to make a good shit ton of money being
a football player. He has promised to provide like living
expenses for the wife and the kids expenses. Yeah, and
I'm just like, my gosh, just know what he just

(02:38:15):
got himself on the hook for.

Speaker 1 (02:38:17):
They seriously, that's that's some living expenses right there. People
think that that Charlie was like scraping by. This guy's
minted because he's as I as I laid out in
the opening segment. I mean a lot of people just
don't realize what you're dealing with here. This thing was
a cash cow they're breaking in one hundred million year.

(02:38:39):
I mean, it's not just him rocking up with it
with a mug saying proved me wrong on college campuses.
I mean, that's what looks like. That shows you how
naive and stupid a lot of people are in politics.
I'm not picking on the right either, it's just as
clueless on the on the left. They think that these
are all sort of grassroots, you know, operations that you know,

(02:39:04):
running on the fumes of goodwill of the donors. You know,
the richest people in America have bankrolled Turning Point for
the last decade, the richest, the richest billionaires. So you
go against a billionaire class, if even a little bit,
it can have repercussions. I'm not saying I know that

(02:39:27):
that's the case. So that's why this happened to Charlie Kirk.
But you know, it's at some point, you know, you
have to understand that's what you're dealing with there. It's
it's he's not a journalist. Some people are calling him
a journalist. Oh, a journalist has been gunned down. He's not.
He's an he's a political activist. He's an advocate who

(02:39:47):
does journalistic things like has podcasts. He's not a journalist,
trust me on that, not even close. But it's just
that we're living in the times where the nothing nothing
means anything to anybody in terms of having any kind
of analytical conversation about some of this stuff. So I

(02:40:08):
don't know, guys, This one is uh, this is this
is this is This is a big one in terms
of the political impact and this symbolism and how the
state will react and how law enforcement, how the establishment
reacts or wants us to react. This is huge and
this is I predict I'm going to say that this

(02:40:31):
is not going to be the last one. I think
something big is coming on the back end of this.
And these things usually come in threes. They usually come
in threes. Everybody is expendable at this level. And Charlie
Kirk and I'll say it again, this will be my
final thoughts, and we'll go around the horn for your
final final thoughts on all of this, guys, and also

(02:40:52):
to give a shout out on your other work or
esteemed panel here. But this, this is my takeaway if
I could sum up everything I said during that first
exhaustive segment today, is that while Charlie Kirk was alive,
he was a tool of the establishment. He was used

(02:41:14):
as a political tool. He was young, he was energetic,
and he was used to advance certain ideas that reflect
the desires of his donors. And in death, he will
continue to be used as a political tool, and this
event will be used as a political set piece to

(02:41:35):
what end we have speculated today some of those ends,
and I think still there's more will be revealed, and
this might not be the last such event at at
a very very high level in the United States as well. Okay,
So that's that's that's where I'm at on this guys.

(02:41:56):
And and by the way, we we were just toggling
against the George Galloway Show on x for the number
one live podcast at least the ones that I follow
at around six thousand on the live stream. So that's
pretty good considering we've been offered two weeks. That's another

(02:42:18):
story round the horn and away we go, hesher go ahead.

Speaker 13 (02:42:24):
Well quickly with regard to the private plane, there's an
article up at People magazine, which is put in the
supplemental links on this week's boiler Room show page at
Alternate Current Radio dot com. They are saying that the
owner of the plane at this conspiracy theory has spoken out.
As of a couple days ago, they say Derek Maxfield,

(02:42:48):
the CEO of an online marketing company, says his family
was unfairly impacted by inaccurate and false theories regarding his
company's plane. He says, everything's above board here. He says,
how many you know, crew he had, how many passengers
he had, when and when he took off? When they
turned the responder off, and he claims that the FAA

(02:43:09):
was in communication with them, and this is something they
often do when they're flying. So but yeah, really, but
there are other people that are looking still digging on
this one and looking into Derek Maxfield and his company
and their connections and all that. So this isn't gone.
But just beware, you know, if that's one of your

(02:43:31):
first points of interest, that there is a counterpoint circulating
right now, and that's now, you know, ashes in the
drain of all of this stuff. As far as what
we got going, we again, we had our boiler room
on Thursday Nights about a four hour broadcast. This was

(02:43:52):
before the shooter was confirmed by the federal FBI, which
we saw the next day. And that's a very interesting
By the way, there's the show page right there, Charlie
Kirks Murder. They got us right where they want us,
at each other's throats. It's available on all the video
podcasting platforms right now and the audio podcast is forthcoming,

(02:44:15):
So please go check that show out. Join us on
Thursdays for Boiler Room. I'm certain this Thursday's will just
have another torrent of information in the wake of all this.
And yeah, I'm afraid they do have us right where
they want us at each other's throats here, and that's

(02:44:36):
what we really need to be wary of. You know,
it's sickening to me that people are calling for civil
war instead of calling for disclosure, truth de escalation, stopping genocides,
stopping wars, asking why their country is changing their Department
of Defense to the Department of War at a time

(02:44:57):
like this, with all these things going on, you know,
start trying to You don't want to be at odds
with your neighbors because these people aren't gonna stop. They're
going to manufacture whatever it is they're trying to manufacture,
and your neighbors need to be your community at that
point when that happens. And if we're all just suspicious
of each other and no, you know, cyber stocking your

(02:45:21):
neighbors facebooks to see what political party they might be
part of or what their analysis of Charlie Kirk's murder is,
then you know we're we're already lost. And I'm afraid
the polarization and the fracturization over the culture wars and
everything we've seen may have us too far gone at
this point to come back together.

Speaker 1 (02:45:42):
So I hope I'm wrong, but.

Speaker 13 (02:45:45):
Like Rucus said, this is bad.

Speaker 1 (02:45:48):
Yeah, I hope you're wrong too, but I'm extremely concerned.
And a lot of people are asking how does Rucus
know all their free Masonic hand signals? And then the
comments are blown up because when that when I posted that,
ruck has then walked away out of view of the camera,
which caused another wave of comments, Uh, oh, there we
are Richardson's monitor freemason. So you've got the you've got

(02:46:11):
the book, you.

Speaker 3 (02:46:12):
Got the book, But that doesn't mean I'm one of them.

Speaker 1 (02:46:15):
I just doesn't mean you have the box of tricks
in a.

Speaker 3 (02:46:18):
Copy of this.

Speaker 6 (02:46:18):
But this is very you know, it's very useful, and
in there is the that same symbolic pose that unfortunately
mister Kirk took as he was passing. Again, just very
strange stuff. I get to practice what I preach now
about corrections. I need to make a correction about the
football player making the donation to Charlie Kirk's family. This

(02:46:41):
is actually one of those classic fake news stories that
other people picked up and ran with, which is why
I had seen it, but I didn't do.

Speaker 3 (02:46:47):
A deep dive. I was curious about it.

Speaker 6 (02:46:50):
But they took the same story and named multiple different
football players Jaylon Hurts, Josh Allen, Travis Kelser, Aaron Rodgers.
If you heard any of those people are donating three hundred,
three hundred, three hundred, of course, three three hundred thousand
dollars to Charlie Kirk's family. They are not nobody's paying
for the living expenses. Maybe they were originally Patrick and

(02:47:10):
then they realized how much that would cost them and
they said no thanks. But apparently that was fake news.
So I had to correct myself. Lesson learned, And I
hope you're watching Alex, and I hope you do the same,
Alex Jones. That is, thanks for having me. I've been
doing a lot of guest appearances and other shows in
addition to the boiler Room. I'm of course on Weaponized
News with Sam Cheney. I think I'm doing that on

(02:47:33):
Wednesdays now instead of Mondays, but just on Friday night.

Speaker 3 (02:47:37):
So three in a row for me.

Speaker 6 (02:47:39):
These things always happen in threes, right, So Wednesday was
Sam Cheney, then Thursday the boiler Room, and then Friday
I was on the Third Rail podcast with the Nature Boy,
and I was alongside a bunch of great folks including
Steve Poikin on Algeez, mister Charles he calls himself that
his three eyes and three on X ray from down Under,

(02:48:03):
and of course some folks from the New Prisoners and
the Am Wake Up Crew.

Speaker 3 (02:48:08):
So that was a good time.

Speaker 6 (02:48:09):
But you'll be able to find that on their Rumble
channel or up at Alternate Current Radio under the moniker
of Roundabout Ruckus And yeah, looking forward to doing this
again in the near future. Don't forget to check us
out on boiler Room for Thursdays and find my stuff
right there. Thanks Patrick, The Daily Ruckus and all that
at alternacurt Radio dot com. And I hope everyone just

(02:48:30):
remembers to just keep a cool head, don't run with
any information unless you can prove it for yourself, which
is what Bill Cooper taught us. And of course Bill
Cooper also reminded us used to close the show every
day by saying the thing that I like to say,
which is God bless each and every one of you,
and may God save this republic.

Speaker 3 (02:48:49):
And I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 1 (02:48:52):
Very good positive note. Thank you very much, Ruckus, and
thank you for your self fact checking on that. That's
a good journalistic bona fidas, much appreciated. And yeah, that's
that's what others should be doing. And you did it
on the fly, which is even better within the same segment,

(02:49:15):
so there's no question. So no disinformation is going to
seep out of there. Oh but Rucks said no, and
it wasn't Patrick Mahalmes either, So Basil, go ahead your
final thoughts and projects that you're working on. Where can
people find you?

Speaker 15 (02:49:31):
I think Charlie Kirk was perhaps starting to wonder what
part of the Holocaust in Gaza Jesus Christ supported, because
you know, as Time's gone on, and we're now seeing
the complete destruction of Gaza City. You know, Kirk has
taken up all the oxygen in the room together with
Tommy Robinson over the last couple of days. But what's

(02:49:54):
going on in Gaza now is worse than at any
stage since the genocide began, llowing all the remaining tower
blocks and habitable structures in Gaza City. People are being
bombed in tents on the beach. Just because it's not
in our headlines every day doesn't mean that the suffering there,

(02:50:15):
or the numbers being killed or any less. It's an
absolutely apocalyptic scene and it is to be hoped that
Christians like Charlie Kirk and his followers, whether or not
Israel killed him, wake up to the utter in humanity

(02:50:36):
of what's going on there. Numerous Israeli commentators have said
that Israel will kill anybody anywhere, including in London, including
in the UK, if you are deemed to be a
supporter of Hamas, and that Charlie was himself. Let's not
forget he was accused of being an anti seamte himself

(02:50:58):
for daring to ask questions, for starting to notice one
or two things. And you know, if you consider who
is it that's bond Tunisia, Yemen, Lebanon, Syria and Palestine
in recent days. Who is exporting violence all over the world.

(02:51:22):
Who takes pride in having an assassination squad as an
integral part of its security service. It's Israel, of course, ye,
So you know, let's bear that in mind. Over in
the UK, quickly police are searching for a man who
called for the Prime Minister to be assassinated during yesterday's

(02:51:46):
Unite the Kingdom Raley. He was on TV. Apparently he
said he thought Kirstarmer needs to be killed.

Speaker 1 (02:51:56):
Unite it was called Unite the Kingdom, that's what That's
what the around me And they're flying the England flag
because that doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 15 (02:52:06):
Well, Starma's come out today and said that the flag
of Saint George across of Saint George belongs to everybody
and should not be it should not be allowed to
be hijacked by the far right. And it's apparently going
to make speeches in the near future about once again
the benefits of diversity and immigrations. So the battle lines

(02:52:32):
there are being drawn. As I said, somebody called for
Starmer's assassination. I think police have got about fifty thousand
suspects because the anti Starmer feeling is at record levels
in Britain and it's at record levels among labor MPs
as well, so they might get rid of them.

Speaker 1 (02:52:50):
In Well, that's a separate conversation.

Speaker 15 (02:52:53):
It is a separate conversation. Yeah, completely separate conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:52:56):
But yeah they are. I think they're fast tracking Andy
or to be the labor leader.

Speaker 15 (02:53:03):
Well, either that or the man hilariously described by Alexi
Sayle as Keir Starmer's illegitimate love child made of Margarine
Where's streeting?

Speaker 1 (02:53:13):
Yes, yes, streating or David Lammy.

Speaker 15 (02:53:17):
Well, I think Lammie's brand is tarnished, not least because
he's going to end up in the Hague, but he
made a complete fool of himself as Foreign Secretary on
a regular basis. Of course, last week in Britain we
had the genocide monster Isaac Hertzog here quite a big
ruction around that. But all this I will be on

(02:53:40):
picking tomorrow on my new program as Sending Order, which
is at one pm UK time, so that's eight am
on the East coast of the United States. It's on YouTube.
Search for Unprecedented TV Basil Valentine, and we also stream
it out on x at Precedented TV, So do give

(02:54:02):
us a follow there and tomorrow I'm joined by the
one and only Long may we cherish him while we
still have him, because I'm very much looking forward to
his breakdown on the Charlie Kirk murder. I'm talking about
the world's foremost expert on the JFK assassination, Professor James Fetzer,

(02:54:23):
Emeritus Professor of the Philosophy of Science at the University
of Minnesota de Luz. He'll be joining me at half
past one UK time tomorrow and we're going to be
breaking down the parallels between the Kirk assassination and JFK.

Speaker 1 (02:54:38):
You might as well just see if you can milk
him for some Sandy Hook comparisons.

Speaker 15 (02:54:44):
A bit bit of hot water over that, you.

Speaker 1 (02:54:46):
Know, playing with the YouTube gods.

Speaker 15 (02:54:49):
Of I mean, even saying those two words is dangerous, Patrick.

Speaker 1 (02:54:53):
I mean, to save Jim Fetzer and Sandy Hook in
the same sentence. I know that could actually get the
show shut down here. I mean, we're playing with fire
just by.

Speaker 15 (02:55:01):
Mentioning all that is exactly as the authorities describe.

Speaker 1 (02:55:06):
Yeah, unprecedented, Unprecedented.

Speaker 15 (02:55:11):
That's why we that's why we are the name Unprecedented TV.
So do please give us a follower, a follow on
x and subscribe to the Unprecedented TV YouTube channel, which,
for some reason, and we're talking about this another time,
is abbreviated to USP. Unique selling point.

Speaker 1 (02:55:33):
It's a riddle within a riddle within an enigma, that's right. Yes,
it's just one of those unsolvable puzzles.

Speaker 15 (02:55:40):
On the Monday to Friday at one pm UK.

Speaker 1 (02:55:42):
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do bring in a little bit of light commentary in between,
you know, to break things up a little bit. So

(02:56:03):
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So we have special privileges and latitudes which we extend

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(02:57:31):
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