SUNDAY WIRE EP 561 – ‘The Real Woke Right’ - Patrick Henningsen with Hesher, Ruckus & Basil - Sunday Wire with Patrick Henningsen

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this week's edition of
The Sunday Wire. I'm Patrick kenningson your host. We are
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streams which will be on after the program. And again

(00:42):
thank you for joining us. We'll be doing the first
segment and talking about the title of the program, and
you know it's self explanatory. Here come the woke right,
the real woke right, and we're seeing now the mask
is off. This week we'll talk about this, break it
all down for you in great detail as to what

(01:05):
this situation is. You got the Trump administration basically once
again attacking the First Amendment under the guise of fake hates,
hate speech, the very thing that so called conservatives were
screaming and frothing at the mouth during the Biden administration
and before that for you know, trying to cancel free

(01:27):
speech under the phony guys of hate speech. Well, the
so called right, the so called conservatives, are now doing this.
Why in the wake of the Charlie Kirk shooting and
also while there's an ongoing genocide being carried out by
Israel and the United States and their allies in Gaza

(01:51):
to completely annihilate, exterminate, and ethnically cleanse any surviving Native Palestinians.
That's happening now. So all this is great cover for that, okay,
And also it helps for any authoritarian regime or any
fascist regime, and I don't use that term lightly fascist,

(02:12):
and especially since the Trump Arrangement syndrome was a real thing,
let's be honest, from twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
right through his first term, it was a very real thing.
All the Democrats and the sort of Lincoln Project crowd

(02:35):
and the Rhinos, but mainly the Democrats' radical progressives and
so forth, accusing Donald Trump being a fascist before he
even got into office, before he was able to even
try to do anything fascistic. And now this administration, this
regime in Washington is openly fascist, doing things that fascist do,

(03:01):
like violate posse coomatatis and deploy the military onto the
city streets of America for no particular reason other than well,
there's a lot of crime, so we're going to deploy
the military. So a complete systemic failure in the US.
Trump comes in deploys the military, chasing foreign students out

(03:27):
of the country for having an opinion against Israel, opposing
a holocaust in Gaza. That will get you get your
visa revoked and get you kicked out of the country.
Marco Rubio is chasing after student body presidents and people
writing op eds on behalf of Israel, so an attack

(03:48):
on the First Amendment. And now this after the Charlie kirkshooting,
we'll break this down in the second overdrive segment, will
be joined by our teammates from ACR hesher Ruckus, hopefully
Basil Valentine as well, and we'll get into it, but
I'll lay out the basic case. In the meantime, we've

(04:09):
got a few other housekeeping items where maybe we'll cover
those in the second segment. So at some point we're
going to have to get down to business here. Now
we have to bring the story right back to its
first beginning on this and this term. There's a term

(04:30):
that has been circulating recently called the woke right okay,
and it's been misappropriated by the pro Israeli crowd. Okay,
And it's interesting because we coin that term after October seventh,

(04:50):
twenty twenty three, and I'll explain to you how this works,
how this dynamic works. But we coin this term because
what you saw after October seventh was again all of
these so called conservatives completely losing it because people were

(05:11):
pointing out the fact that Israel was mowing down Palestinians
at record numbers, and the fact that they were attacking
any critics of Israel or US policy against Israel's being
so called anti semitic. I mean, that's about as woke
as you can get. If wokeness, according to the Ben

(05:34):
Shapiro's of the world and the Jordan Peterson's of the world,
if wokeness or woke ideology is predicated on identity politics,
then is there any higher order of identity politics than
Zionist Israel. I mean, this is the pinnacle of identity politics.

(05:59):
It's it's religious level identity politics. To question it, to
criticize it is deemed to be blasphemous in American society
and also in Western Europe, and throw the UK in
there as well. They've weaponized this term anti Semitism. It's

(06:22):
been broadened to such an extent that it can be
used to cancel everyone, and I mean everyone. We're not
talking about low level bloggers people like that getting deplatformed.
We're talking about the heads of major political parties getting

(06:42):
their careers canceled, getting kicked out of the party that
they served for their entire life. Jeremy Corbyn is a
perfect example. This is the woke right, and the woke
right after October seventh was trying their absolute best to
cancel pretty much anybody that was criticizing Israel or pointing

(07:06):
out the fact, pointing out the facts what was actually
happening in Gaza at the time. So, you know, when
we talk about the woke right, the real woke right.
So some people pro the pro Israel neo con crowd
hijack this term that we were using in the aftermath

(07:30):
of after math of October seventh to point out the
double standard on the sort of Zionist maga crowd, the
double standard. They're wanting to cancel everybody. And now they're
doing it again after Charlie Kirk's shooting, after the Charlie

(07:50):
Kirk assassination, murder, whatever you want to call it, they're
doing it again. And now the mask is really really
off now they're doing it out in the open. Then
they're trying to employ the executive of the federal government
to do the dirty work. Okay, it's not just woke
right is fascist. It's absolutely fascist. And we'll bring on screen.

(08:16):
We'll see if we can bring on screen some of
the genealogy of this, because I think it's important that
people understand it. And we do have a situation whereby
a lot of people are so bamboozled and confused by
all of this. And I'm talking about mainly I'm going

(08:39):
to reach out to people that identify as Republicans and
Conservatives and people Democrats and those on the sort of
left wing as well. This is pretty much for everybody,
so we'll walk you through this process. But when we're
talking about the real woke right, okay, these are the
real snowflakes on the right. These are the same people

(09:04):
that would rock up on college campuses in the United
States and you know, grown men in their sort of
late thirties, forties and like Jordan Peterson types fifties in
some cases, but Ben Shapiro, for example, they rock up
on US college campuses and they'll want to wail on

(09:25):
sort of young undergrads whatever, purple haired, gender fluid whatever,
you know, college students, and clearly they're able to intellectually
outmatch them, especially in semantics and debate and beat up
on them over at LGBT and trans issues and so forth.

(09:48):
I mean, at this point, I don't really get into
the whole trans thing because to me, it's just patently ridiculous,
the whole concept of it, how it's been elevat to
the top of sort of left wing identity politics causes
of quote marginalized groups. It's you know, people who are

(10:09):
on the left need to understand that identity politics has
destroyed the left. The left used it in order to
beat down the opposition, to create new rule sets to
control bureaucracies and institutions. And then that thing they created,

(10:29):
that little dragon, turned out to be a big dragon
and completely engulfed the left as it were in Western
politics and still is destroying it. Okay, But so the
type of people that were recruited to do this, and

(10:50):
they were elevated by the conservative mainstream and also funny enough,
backed and elevated by the zion billionaire funded Zionist media apparatus. Okay,
they head hunted people like Jordan Peterson. And behind this

(11:11):
you'll find operators like Ben Shapiro, who is, for all
intents and purposes, a representative of the Israeli government, of
the State of Israel, who masquerades as in America first,
you know, masquerades as MAGA. He's been doing that for
a while. But they put up these beta males, these

(11:34):
sort of generally weak individuals like Jordan Peterson, who when
you apply a little pressure on a major issue, completely
throws temper tantrums on Twitter and completely becomes disheveled and
bursts out into tears on television in some cases. And

(11:55):
so these aren't the best role models, but they're targeting.
These are beta These are sort of fake conservative icons
that are really liberals that they brought in to colonize
the conservative media space, and they try to attract other

(12:15):
beta males who are going to resonate with that same
energy that Jordan Peterson exudes. And when pressed on the
issue of Israel and what they're doing to the Palestinians,
of course, Jordan Peterson folds like a cheap deck chair,
and what does he do. Immediately rushes to take the

(12:35):
Israeli side and starts quoting Bible verses and it's completely insane.
And meanwhile, people like Ben Shapiro are in the background
just kind of wringing their hands, loving it. They managed
to capture this very important demographic. And you also have

(12:57):
Christian conservatives. So when we talk about the woke right,
that's a good snapshot right there, that's a very good
snapshot of This is emblematic of what the real woke
right is. These are Christian Zionists, Jewish American Zionist, pro
Israeli Zionists of course like Shapiro, and they are the

(13:20):
woke right. So's these are beta males fighting against left
wing betas on trans issues and all this other stuff.
But when it comes to pushing back against Israel, they
do none of that, even if Israel slaughters and annihilates

(13:40):
millions of Palestinians by the end. And they are and
we'll show you the real numbers in a moment, so
they're not alpha when it comes to actually saving lives
and Christian lives in the Holy Land. People like Glenn
Beck a lot of virtue signaling as a Christian, but

(14:01):
it talks about Judeo Christian values but doesn't have any
time to try to address that type of situation, which
is just despicable. I mean, this is just the worst
abrogation of humanity that any of us has seen in

(14:25):
our lifetimes and we'll ever see, and worse than previous
generations have seen. And these people, they're cheering it on enthusiastically,
and that is the wok right, and they're very happy
to set people against each other so long as nobody

(14:46):
challenges the big ticket issues, and those are geopolitical issues.
So these guys are basically sheep dogging the US domestic
audience on this and it's just so disingenuous. So that
brings us to Charlie Kirk and let's talk about this

(15:11):
now turning point USA, very important conversation. So on the
back of his killing, his assassination, his murder, you have
the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, and she seems to be
confused over hate speech and free speech. Now the right

(15:33):
have decried the term hate speech as being completely arbitrary
and theoretical and has no grounding whatsoever in you know,
in the post enlightenment, liberal democratic era, the rational era, okay,
and now the right is crying hate speech of anybody

(15:54):
that speaks ill of the late Charlie kirk Or. This
could easily be extended to anybody who criticizes the foreign
state of Israel in the United States. Certainly this is
something the ADL would be drooling over. The Anti Defamation
League one of the many thought police speech police organizations

(16:18):
set up by the Israeli lobby to quell any dissent
or criticism of Israel within the United States. So Pam
Bondi is Trump's attorney general, and we have to ask
the question where did Pam Bondi come from? And we'll
get to that. So she's crying hate speech on this

(16:38):
issue here, and this is what she says. She says,
there's free speech and then there's hate speech. There's free
speech and there's hate speech. And there is no place,
especially now after what happened to Charlie using his first
name on first name terms, what happened to Charlie for

(16:59):
that in our society. So you can't say anything that
she can construe as offensive because she will then in
her arbitrary position of interpreting speech, or Trump's arbitrary position

(17:21):
interpreting what is offensive speech or Fox News or whoever,
she will then deploy the full force of the federal
government to shut it down and to maybe, as she threatened,
to jail people. She said that, And so the Free
Speech Center, you can see Middle Tennessee University, one of

(17:43):
the few universities dedicated to this very subject, and they
said this, to put it bluntly, is absolutely false. So
called quote hate speech is free speech. Now to have
to point that out to the Attorney General of the
United States of America is you could say it's embarrassing
on one level, but it shows you that these these people,

(18:08):
especially and I'm more critical of the right, the conservatives,
because they they wrap themselves in the Constitution constantly, and
you you'd think, or I'm left to I'm left to
conclude by their views, positions, and statements that they haven't

(18:29):
even read the Constitution. These people haven't even read it.
If they had, if they read it and understand it,
then they wouldn't have to be corrected by Middle Tennessee
University in such embarrassing fashion. And so maybe we should

(18:53):
listen to Pam Bondi herself and see what she says.
This is in a podcast interview, and literally she who
is gagging to make this statement in the wake of
Charlie's murder. What would Charlie want? Well, I don't think
Charlie would actually want this, but this is the Attorney General.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Listen, hate speech and there is no place, especially now,
especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups
who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people?
So we show them that some action is better than
no action.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
We will absolutely target you, go after you if you
are targeting anyone with hate speech anything, And that's across
the aisle.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean, seriously, who is this Katie Miller, by the way,
don't you think should have some action just to show
them more serious? I mean this is fascist, literally fascist talk,
totally disregarding the Bill of Rights. And you know what's
worse about this is these are people that work in

(20:07):
the media space, podcasters getting these primo powder puff interviews,
lobbying not softball questions, snowball questions, wet snowball, melting snowball questions,
twinkie questions, chucking twinkies at the age free speech. That

(20:34):
kind of affects you if you're doing journalism. But these
people aren't doing journalism. They're doing political lobbing under the
guise of podcasting. This is the fake mainstream alternative media,
is what it is. So honestly, where do we go
from here? So she's wrong, Pambondi is dead wrong. That's

(21:00):
a hell of a thing to get wrong. If you're
the attorney general, it's a hell of a thing to
get wrong. Pretty amazing, pretty amazing. So let's look at
that for a moment. Where does that take us, Well,
it takes this year. This is the Foundation for Individual
Rights and education, and they pen this piece. Why everything

(21:24):
Pam Bondi said about quote hate speech is wrong. The
nation's top law enforcement officer, scary thought, doesn't understand that
there is no hate speech exception to the First Amendment.
And that's scary to be corrected by pretty much everybody.
And you're the top lawyer, top law enforcement officer in

(21:47):
the whole country. But if it's a fascist government, then
this is par for the course. And that is actually
the most frightening part. What's worse is that there's not
more Republicans and so called conservatives, conservatives taking her to

(22:07):
task on this and demanding her resignation after making this
statement she just made. There We're going to go after
them with the full force of the law. People whose
opinions we don't like, resign your tenure in office. It's

(22:29):
untenable in the United States of America now in an
openly authoritarian regime. That's who you want. You want someone
like that. She's doing what she's been told, which was
to be brutal and smash the opposition. Looks like a fascist,

(22:56):
talks like a fascist, walks like a fascist. You are
a fascist by definition. This is not my opinion. There's
certain thresholds politically that you need to meet, and this
is one of them. So embarrassingly she had to walk

(23:19):
it back. So two days later, Pam Bonni says, hate
speech won't be prosecuted again. You can't define hate speech.
She's still clinging to it, even in her walk back.
Her rearguard action here the panic mode, because real conservatives,

(23:40):
people who are libertarians, people with brains, were pushing back
against this. But she's still clinging to the quote like
hate speech is a thing. It's not a thing. Hate
speech is not a thing. It is not an arbitrary

(24:00):
term that you can define. But if you give the
government power to label things as hate speech and then
prohibit that speech. Then you've got a big, big problem. Okay.
And it's very similar, and we'll get onto this is
the word terrorism, and the Trump administration are at it.

(24:23):
They're now declaring a morphous grassroots movements as terrorists in
the United States, people without head offices, without a hierarchy
of management or leadership, Antifa. They're declaring them a terrorist organization.

(24:47):
We'll get into that in a moment. But that's if
you give these people too much leeway. This is what
you're going to get. Power corrupts, absolute, power corrupts absolutely Unfortunately.

(25:08):
So where did Pam Bondi come from? And this is
where this story gets so interesting, Pam Bondy. This is
a tale of two Floridians, Pam Bondy and Matt Gates.
Such an interesting story, this one. Let's focus on that

(25:31):
for a moment. Do you remember Matt Gates. He used
to serve in Congress, very talented, true maga, a true
maverick in fact, and happened to be one of the
only people in the entire Congress that voted against this

(25:51):
previous legislation while Biden was president to weaponize the anti
Semitism smear in order to prohibit anti Semitic speech and
so forth in America. I mean, it was a total
disaster of a bill. Matt Gates stood up and rejected it.

(26:13):
Matt Gates got Kevin McCarthy chucked out as speaker single handedly.
As this is somebody had considerable power in the House
of Representatives, and he was not in Israeli stooge. Okay,
Matt Gates, Republican, could have done a lot of things
in the future, could have taken a Senate seat in Florida,

(26:35):
could have been Speaker of the House, could have run
for president at some point. Okay. And he happened to
be minimum neutral, if not not pro Israel, not in
the cult like sense that's required in Washington. So something

(26:58):
funny happened during the Trump transition. After Trump wins the
November presidential election against Kamala Harris, they start kicking around
cabinet picks and the name Matt Gates came up for
attorney general. When I saw that, I thought, that's the
stupidest pick for attorney general you could possibly have. Anybody

(27:23):
could do that job. Why would you put Matt Gates
in there? And people were saying, oh, because he's a
Trump loyalist. He's a Trump loyalist. Trump wants his guy
in there. There's a bunch of other people that were
Trump loyalists that could have easily filled that, including Matt Whittaker,
who was acting ag during Trump's first term. And there's

(27:44):
just too many other people, lawyers, qualified lawyers, who could
fill that role. Why would you take one of the
most powerful Republicans in the US Congress, young, talented, a
true maverick, very much populist, in touch with his base.
Why would you rip him from the House and stick

(28:06):
him into a cabinet position that is going to be
ultimately politicized and that quite frankly, a dozen other people
could do. That doesn't make much sense from a Republican
strategic point of view, It makes no sense. So that
was interesting. So let's dive further into this, this mystery.

(28:28):
Why was Matt Gates selected by Trump? Well, it wasn't
long in November, about November twenty fourth, they started floating
an old sex scandal that had already been dealt with,
debunked and so forth, a sex scandal funny enough that
they tried to It appears to us and many other

(28:50):
journalists that they tried to entrap Matt Gates and there
were Israeli linked operatives involved in this. A few years previous,
they failed to sink Matt Gates' congressional career. Clearly this
was a put up they tried. They resurfaced this old
scandal and applied pressure on Gates, so he had already

(29:17):
stepped away from his congressional seat, had committed to the
Trump transition to becoming a g and then suddenly was
forced to withdraw his Attorney general position over this old
scandal that was completely It appears to be a setup

(29:39):
involving Israeli linked actors. Amazing. It's almost as if this
was pre planned. And who was going to replace him?
Pam Bondi immediately was was presented, probably by Mary Madelson

(29:59):
or someone like this as the replacement. She's from Florida
as well, not particularly well qualified to be the top
lawyer stroke law enforcement person in the country. Her previous
gig before this was she was a lobbyist for Israel
and other countries and interests and companies including Qatar and others.

(30:23):
But I believe it was Ballad and associates. They've got
offices in Tel Aviv, a big time Israeli lobby firm,
a corporate lobby firm. Okay, that's who she worked for.
That's her qualification, that's her resume, her standout resume. Yes,
she worked for the government in Florida, who, by the way,

(30:44):
have passed some very dodgy pro Israel state laws, including
antibds stuff. And there's a whole string of things that
Ron de Santas had been champion. But anyway, so she
comes in and there it is right there. Trump names

(31:05):
longtime ally Pam Bondy, longtime ally, as his new attorney
general after Matt Gates with draws that was all engineered.
Interesting and what does Pam Bondy do when she gets in. Well,
Trump ran on this whole like, oh, we're going to
release all the Epstein files, going to release all that,

(31:25):
it's going to be public. And then she comes in
and she's leading the cover up. Just did They just
did an about face in May, May and June and decided, oh,
there's nothing there, there's no scandal, nothing, all those witness statements,
all those court cases. Just disregard all that. Nothing to

(31:48):
see here, move along. It's over. No Israeli connections either,
and quite frankly, didn't traffic anything to all these high
level ex presidents, heads of banks, celebrities, US politicians and
so forth. None of that happened, according to Pambondi, and

(32:10):
that caused a major rift in Magaland. So, just to
reiterate understand how important this is, they got rid of
one of the only bulwarks against a complete Israeli takeover
of the US Congress, Matt Gates, and replaced him well

(32:33):
with Randy Fine in Florida, a fire breathing Zionist who
slid seamlessly into Matt Gates's seat. We'll see if Randy
Fine survives the next election. He probably will. There's plenty
of money behind him now. He himself is a Jewish
American Zionist and Israeli loyalist to the hilt. So he's

(32:59):
now occupied uying Matt Gates's seat. Matt Gates is out
of politics. Matt Gates is working as a presenter foran
one American news. I mean that's quite a demotion, quite
a demotion. He's out of politics. Israel got rid of him.

(33:21):
Israel got rid of him. Nobody on the MAGA Wright
has anything to say about this, and he was replaced
by an Israeli operative for all intents and purposes, who
is now covering up the Epstein scandal, one of the
biggest political blackmail scandals in history. She's leading the cover up.

(33:43):
Isn't that why she was put in there to begin with? Yes? Probably?
Do you need to be a rocket scientist to figure
that one out? Unbelievable And how few people understand this

(34:03):
and get this. It's so obvious, beyond obvious, what's going on?
And then Pam Bondi's attacking the First Amendment with all
this righteous indignation about the fallen martyr Charlie Kirk. Hence,

(34:23):
are you know our image for the show today, If
you look at the montage of the show graphic for
the Sunday Wire today, we have Donald Trump there it is.
You've got Marco Rubio there with Mike Huckabee touching the wall,

(34:47):
you know, kissing the wall, the former wall of the
Roman garrison, not the temple. It's they're touching, kissing a
Roman garrison wall, which is a bizarre story in itself.
The wailing wall, wailing wailing in Roman Latin. Maybe if
you had to actually go back in time and there's

(35:07):
Charlie Kirk, the martyr who is now being fashioned as
Saint Charlie. I mean, I don't think he really achieved
saint level in terms of the profoundness of his discourse.
And there's Pam Bondi using this crisis, using this strategy
to consolidate more power with central government. I mean, honestly, folks.

(35:34):
So there it is in a nutshell. That's how they
got Bondi in, That's how they covered up the Epstein files,
and that's how they're restricting Americans' rights in order to
protect Israel from criticism effectively. Now, Charlie Kirk, there's a big,
circumstantial case and discussion around the fact that he was

(35:56):
being leaned on by the Israeli lobby, by Netignahu himself.
Charlie Kirk, head of Turning Point USA. So again Bondi
having to walk back this hate speech thing. Her office
will not be prosecuting or investigating anyone for alleged hate speech,

(36:16):
only for speech she says unlawfully incites violence. Oh, thank
you very much for that correction, Because it has to
reach the level of direct incitement provable incitement. You could
apply the term hate speech, but as a secondary as

(36:38):
a secondary description to define what is incitement. That is
the legal standard constitutionally according to the Supreme Court. Of course,
I'm not a lawyer. I didn't go to law school.
I didn't study constitutional law at university. But I understand

(37:00):
and that basic legal principle. I can't cite the exact
precedent case. Now there's there's at least one famous one.
But then again, could Pam Bondi, if quizzed, maybe she
does now, but before she made that interview with Katie
Miller or whatever her name was, saying she's going to

(37:22):
go after Americans, could she cite that Supreme Court President case.
I don't think so. If she could, she would have
understood the contents of that case, and not that she
was completely out of bounds making the statement that she did.
So that brings us to this and this is this

(37:43):
is this is the real This is when this story dropped,
the whole Netta Nahu crowd and so forth went into
panic mode. Okay, so again they're trying to make a
martyr out of Charlie kirk oh and by the way,
just on the Pam Bondi question, not to be labor

(38:04):
the point, but what did Charlie Kirk himself, when he
was alive have to say about this whole idea hate speech?
So Pambondi is wanting to mobilize the government against anybody
who might be saying something offensive about Charlie Kirk and
stamp on the First Amendment to do it. What did

(38:25):
Charlie Kirk have to say in twenty twenty about this
very application and weaponization by government and institutions on this
arbitrary fake term called hate speech. Well, let's listen to
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Is that even hate speech should be completely and totally
allowed in our country. The most disgusting speech should absolutely
be protected. And it's not a viewpoint that is held
by the left. The ACLU used to hold this viewpoint
the American Civil Liberties Union. They sued so that legitimate
Nazis could march through downtown Scokey. You remember this back
in the nine eighties and nineties. Now, why would the

(39:07):
acl you do this Because they said, as soon as
you use the word hate, that is a very subjective term,
because then all of a sudden, it is in the
eyes or the it is in the implementation of whomever
has the power. So here's my belief the more speech
the better.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Well, you know who's going to argue with that. I
certainly won't. But that was Charlie Kirk. Don't you think
that's a problem that Charlie Kirk was against the thing
that Pam BONDI was trying to ruthlessly enforce with the
power of the executive. Don't you think that's a little
bit of an issue, a little bit of a problem.
I think it is. I think it's a bit of

(39:49):
a problem. Anyway, back to bb Nettignaho refused or Charlie
Kirk refused neatingna Who's offer to fund Turning Point USA
to pump in on what one hundred and fifty million
to this organization, Turning Point USA. And of course when

(40:11):
Charlie refused Neata Naho invited him to Israel, of course
for probably a struggle session, perhaps tempted with other party favors.
That's how they operate in Israel. That's why they bring
the Americans over. They'll get you one way or another,
as long as they can get you to come to Israel.

(40:31):
And Kirk turned him down, turned him down. Oh and
it gets worse more disclosures. Look at this billionaire Bill Lackman,
who if you follow him on social media, is probably
one of the most repulsive commentators anyway. Again, a fire

(40:54):
breathing Zionist, Israel first and billionaire Bill Lackman convened to
storming Israel intervention session in the Hamptons, the elite enclave
in Long Island, with Charlie Kirk bringing him in for

(41:14):
was effectively again a struggle session to try to find
out why Charlie is platforming Tucker Carlson at TPUSA events,
platforming Marjorie Taylor Green, all these people that are have
veered away from Israel, even Meghan Kelly asking questions. I mean,

(41:35):
that's saying something right there, even her, even she breaks ranks.
Dave Smith, comedian Dave Smith, big critic of Israel. He's
invited to Turning Point to speak at the events. This
caused absolute pandemonium in the Israeli lobby circles. They were
just freaking out because they're going to lose control of

(41:59):
the eighteen to thirty five voter demographic of future Republican
and conservative voters. They need to bank on this support
for the future of Israel. Israel can't survive unless it's
got this financial and military lifeline from the United States.

(42:20):
It can't negotiate anything. It doesn't negotiate, It just attacks,
bombs and assassinates. And it does so with the full
backing of the United States, and of course smaller backings
from Britain and Germany and the EU. But nonetheless all
of that's important. And so here we have a clear

(42:40):
case that the most powerful Israeli lobbyists, Nettignahu himself, were
flabbergasted with Kirk, who they had relied on previously to
promote anti Muslim fear to attack Islam, to brand of

(43:00):
Muslims in America as being sort of, you know, sub
citizens of sorts, saying that Islam is not compatible with
our Judaeo Christian values in the West and Western civilization,
that level of culture war. Israel loved it as long
as Charlie kept doing that and stayed on message with

(43:21):
all the October seventh Israeli version of events and so forth,
everything to justify the ongoing Holocaust, Israel's committing against the
native Palestinian population in Gazen anything to support that they
required undying support, because the billionaire class that funds Turning

(43:41):
Point USA that took in one hundred million dollars in
twenty twenty four. Charlie Kirk was there. He was their soapbox.
They're renting him. He's their mouthpiece, and that went well
for many years. But Kirk realized that especially when the

(44:09):
when the Epstein files cover up began, magas started to
fracture big time June, in in June and July. It
was really beginning before that because a lot of Christian Conservatives,
especially Catholic Christian conservatives and high profile Catholic Christian conservatives

(44:31):
were abhorred with what Israel is doing to the Palestinian population,
unlike Christian evangelists and brain dead cult followers like Mike
Huckabee and that type of person, or Ted Cruz who
quoting the Bible claiming that God promised the land to

(44:55):
Benjamin net Yahoo and that we must support Netan Yahoo
or we will be cursed in America. That's the that's
the type of thing. Ted Cruz, who's a senator from Texas,
he said that on you know, on a high profile
interview with Tucker Carlson. These people are like cult fanatic,

(45:16):
kind of deranged quasi religious fanatics, or maybe they're just
using this shaky religious justification, some kind of fabricated doctrinal
religious interpretation to justify outright criminal and psychotic satanic just

(45:43):
annihilating a whole population genocide. Effectively, they find solace. People
like Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee find solace in their
scriptures or their interpretation of the of the scriptures to
help them feel like they're not, you know, part of
something that's absolute disgusting and totally anti Christian and completely

(46:04):
against the teachings of Jesus Christ. That's the irony of
all this is all these people who identify as Christian,
be they in the United States, specially Conservatives and Republicans.
They lead with their cross Crusaders. They think they're modern
day Crusaders like Pete Hegseth with a cross of Jerusalem

(46:27):
tattooed all over his chest. Literally, they think they're onward
Christian soldiers and they're doing God's work because God commanded
Christians to defend and revere and protect and you know,
worship Israel. And if they don't, they'll be cursed. According
to Ted Cruz and John Hagy and all these other

(46:49):
Christian Zionists cult fanatics, these people are religious cultists. There
literally is a cigarette paper between them and ISIS certainly
with Jewish Zionists or Israeli Zionists. What they're doing with
American military power to densely populated neighborhoods. They're just killing

(47:13):
children every day. It's like a meat grinder. ISIS never
got near that they probably would have liked to, but
they just didn't have the you know, they didn't have
a fleet of F thirty five's, Well they did. It
was the Israeli is the IDF, who were isis's air

(47:35):
force in Syria. Another story there. We'll leave that for
another program one day. So anyway, all this is going on,
and so what's Netta Yahu's reaction to all this? You know,
you'd think if it was so ridiculous that he would

(47:55):
just brush it off and move on, But he Net
Yahu had to release multiple statements even before anybody accused
him of being involved in Charlie Kirk's murder. He then
comes out and does official denials before the fact, almost
implicating himself as a guilty party, which is bizarre. Here's

(48:21):
the man himself, listen to this and this is so
over the top. I don't even know where to begin.
But here he is, and this, this is such a
contrived statement. He's reading off his auto Q, his typical
sort of clever you know SoundBite. It's like sound bite

(48:44):
stitched together with a few pneumatic devices baked into his speech.
Those of you who know about speech debate, public relations,
and dialogue analysis, discourse analysis, you'll pick up all his
little tricks. Is he does it every time. It's just
it's so over the top. Hams it up to kind

(49:08):
of a ridiculous level. But here he is.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Joseph Gebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister, said that the bigger
the lie, the faster it will spread. Well, somebody is
fabricated a monstrous, big lie that Israel had something to
do with Charlie Kirk's horrific murder. This is insane, it
is false, It is outrageous. Charlie Kirk was a giant,

(49:38):
a once in a century talent who defended freedom, defended America,
defended our common Judaeo Christian civilization. Charlie loved Israel. He
loved the Jewish people. He told me so in a
letter that he sent me just a few months ago.
One of my greatest joys as a Christian, he said,
is advocating for Israel and forming alliances with Jews to

(50:00):
protect Judail Christian civilization. He encouraged me to make the
case directly to the American people about how vital Israel
is to US national security. He told me, the Holy
Land is so important to my life. It pains me
to see support for Israel's slip away. Now, if Charlie
disagreed with the policy of mine or a decision here

(50:21):
and there, not only did I not mind, I welcomed it.
This is the essence of Charlie. This is the essence
of a free country. It's exactly what Charlie stood for.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I mean, I just have to I just have to
interrupt here. I mean, this is just so fake. Oh no,
I welcomed his disagreements. If he didn't support Israel, I
encouraged him not to support Israel. I mean, so, Nettignahu
is one of the worst liars. This guy lies through

(50:52):
his teeth. He is the embody. He's a wanted war criminal, unrepentant.
There's no there's no end to his bloodlust when it
comes to Palestinians and Arabs in general. And this guy

(51:13):
has the gumption to come up here and extole democratic
virtues about free speech and open debate when he himself
and his agents in America, who have pumped hundreds of
millions of dollars into the Trump White House, are being

(51:38):
pressured to fire people and government to replace them with
Zionist loyalists. And Netignahuo is probably screwing Trump at every opportunity,
derailing any potential negotiations for anything with Moss or with Iran,

(52:02):
and then coming on and lying about it, and then
blaming Amas for everything breaking down, when all in fact,
this war criminal is just buying time so he can
kill more Palestinians. It really is that simple. And if
you haven't worked it out by now, it's been two
years for those of us watching the issue closely, for

(52:22):
twenty or twenty five years, some of you longer. You
worked this out a long time ago. But if you
just read Pilling on this issue, yeah, let's listen to
what else he has to say.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
And I knew that his suggestions always came from the heart,
from his love for Israel and from his love for
the Jewish people. A few weeks before his death, I
spoke to Charlie. I invited him to visit Israel again
and sadly that won't happen.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Wow, So Natagnahu, this shows you how devious this guy is.
He leaves out the important detail he invited Charlie to
visit Israel and Charlie rejected it. Net Ya left that
important detail out instead. He says he won't be able
to visit because he's not worth us anymore. He wasn't
coming anyway. Bibe, why don't you be if you're so

(53:17):
open about Western civilization, liberal values and democratic graudge, why
don't you tell the truth? Tell the truth? Charlie Kirk
rejected you that's the truth, and you're giving us this
complete pile of you know what. But this doesn't bother

(53:42):
that Yahoo at all. This is what he does. This
is who he is.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
Now.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Some are peddling these disgusting rumors, perhaps out of obsession,
perhaps with Katari funding. What I do know is this.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Atari funding. So this is another Israeli propaganda line that
they inject through their so called influencers on x many
of whom their accounts are completely botted up with fake bots. Yeah.
When you see these people rise into the millions of
followers really quickly, A lot of them have deployed bots,

(54:24):
including people in their so called alternative media, by the way,
including anti Israeli accounts. They're also botted up, many of them.
There's a little bit of an industry there anyway, uhar
Qatari funded.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
No.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
No, just face the fact BB, that more and more
people and soon will be the majority in America. It
probably already is, but it will be more obvious majority.
Totally reject everything that you stand for, everything that you claim,
everything that you've done, and they're going to reject it

(55:00):
for the next two generations or more. You're done toast.
It's over that flag behind you, BB. That brand is
so badly damaged it will never recover. And you become
You become the fable. You become the Faustian tale of

(55:23):
Hubris because you thought you could get away with it
to get that piece of real estate do you so
desperately wanted, and you had to get rid of all
the native Palestinians to do it, and you had to
lie about everything, including deny the fact that you have
murdered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, which will show you

(55:47):
the true numbers in a moment. Let's let him finish.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Charlie Kirk was a great man, and a great man
deserves honor, not lies. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, mayor
your memory be a blessing.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
I mean the fact that Nata who called Charlie Kirk
a once in a century talent. It's a little bit
over the top, but never underestimate these people's ability, this
criminal class. Let's call it their ability to overdo it.

(56:23):
And as the old Shakespeare saying says, the lady doth
protest too much. Netta Naho his third public statement denying
a killing that nobody has really directly accused him of.
I think that's a little bit suspicious, but that's just me.

(56:47):
I mean, I'm not the only person to point this out.
But let's get back so Gebels. It's funny that Netting
na who quotes Gebels, and he misquoted Gebels, net who said,
as Joseph Gerbels said, the more you tell a lie,
the faster it spreads. You know this, Charlatan misquoted Gebels.

(57:11):
What did Goerbels actually say? Let's bring that up for
a moment. Oh, there we go. Thanks for our wonderful
research team at the Sunday wire what Gerbels actually said.
And by the way, Nata who made two errors here.
First he misquoted Gerbels, then he ripped it out of
context to apply it to accusations against the State of Israel.

(57:36):
And this is what Gerbels actually said. If you tell
a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. He's talking about the state
telling lies. Nettignan, who is then flipping Gerbels to try
to point that back at journalists and other individuals online

(58:00):
that are pointing out and noticing the obvious, which is
the circumstantial case that we've just shown you, which the
Gray Zone and others have reported, Candice Owens has reported
is overwhelming. The circumstantial case. Now, do we have any evidence,
direct evidence, or anything to tie Israel or Netanyahu to

(58:24):
Charlie Kirk's killing. No, it's pure speculation on the forensic
criminal case. But the circumstantial case is overwhelming. Is that
enough to convict? Probably not, but with new evidence that
might arise, it could then become a lot a lot more.
But anyway, what Gerbels is saying here, the lie can

(58:49):
be maintained only for such a time as the state
can shield the people from the political, economic, and or
military consequences of the lie. You see, that's the important part,
of course, that Netanyahu left out, and it's just so
ironic that that applies directly to him and Israel. Let

(59:10):
me repeat that the lie can be maintained only for
such a time as the state can shield the people
from the political, economic, and military consequences of the lie,
which Israel cannot, which the United States cannot, which Pambindi cannot.

(59:30):
It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use
all of its powers to repress dissent. Same quote, Which
is what the US is doing, which is what Pambondi
is doing, which is what Benjamin and Yahoo and all
his Israeli billionaire donors are pressuring the US to do.

(59:52):
And Britain and the EU and Germany and of other
European countries under the thumb of the Israeli lobby. Amazing,
this is from Gebels, and Gebels continues, for the truth
is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus, by extension,

(01:00:13):
the truth is the greatest enemy of the state. Wow.
Now if that's a translated quote which I pulled off,
This quote exists on many quotation web pages. Now, I
haven't done the academic rigor to say if this is
the correct translation and so forth, But isn't that amazing

(01:00:37):
that same quote that Netigna who tried to lift off Gebels,
it directly implicates him and the Trump administration and the
British government and the German government and Ursul, the vander
Lying and the EU whatever it is government pull up bureau,

(01:00:58):
I'm not sure what to call it. And the Israeli
kanness it they fall into this one as well. Isn't
that amazing? So we just kind of done just basic
research to not not only correct net Yahu, but turn
his feeble attempt to somehow use Gebels as a weapon

(01:01:23):
against his adversaries and turn it right back on him
and show that no, so and so. Here's the here's
the bottom line, folks. This is what you got to understand.
Gerbels Joseph Gerbels, Adolf Hitler's Minister of Information, Propaganda and

(01:01:46):
public relations. The term public relations didn't come till after
the war, or what wasn't widely accepted as a term
till after the war. Thanks to Edward Burnez, who rebranded
propaganda to public relations as a new term, more of
a politically correct term, more accurate in fact. So you know,

(01:02:09):
and all we're saying is it's a very rich of
BB to use Gerbels. But both of these men, listen,
we can all agree both of these men are very
passionate about their propaganda, very passionate. Indeed, so passionate that

(01:02:31):
they're willing to go to the wall in order to
defend the big lie. Is not ironic, just buries himself inadvertently.
But that's how it goes at this stage, at this
stage of the farce, that's how it goes. You'll start

(01:02:51):
seeing more and more of these desperate lunges, these epic
face plants by people like who Trump himself. And Trump
had to get in on the act as well. Here's
Trump on this. Trump went out for dinner and Code

(01:03:14):
Pink or some anti war protesters came in and ruined
his dinner. I think it was in New York. I
can't remember what restaurant it was. Trump was out there dining,
dining with the great and the good, the public or whatever,
and he was very upset. And so this was Trump's
reaction to that, which to me is quite shocking on

(01:03:39):
its face. Here's Donald Trump. This is what he says
he's going to do to the anti war, anti genocide
protesters that interrupted his recent dinner. This is a president
United States, Folks.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
Women, in many cases women. You can see the professional agitators.
I had one of the other I had four the
other night, all in one group total phonies. Started to
scream when I got into a restaurant, oh, you know
something with Palestine, And they said, well, I'm doing a
great job for peace in the Middle East, as you
get lots of awards for that right with the Abraham

(01:04:15):
Accords and everything else. But a woman just stood up
and starts screaming, and she got booed out of the place.
To the people, there were a lot of people in
the restaurant. I went there to show how safe, and
it was safe. I mean a woman, it's just a mouthpiece.

Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
Well, she was a paid she was a paid agitator.

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
And you have a lot of them.

Speaker 7 (01:04:33):
And I've asked Pam to look into that in terms
of RICO, bringing RICO cases against the criminal RICO because
they should be put in jail. What they're doing to
this country is really a subversive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Wow, Rico case Han, Donald really really racketeering. So exercising
your First Amendment right, whether you like it or not,
Donald Trump is gonna prosecute that is criminal racketeering. That's

(01:05:07):
a little bit fascistic, just you know, a little bit
a little bit fascistic. Hate to point that out to
you so called conservatives. There's nothing conservative about what the
president just said. And it should make you conclude, if

(01:05:31):
you have any working gray matter, that the President of
United States is not a conservative. He has abandoned all
pretense of being quote conservative. That's a full blown kind
of helpless flannling fascist going on right there. That's not

(01:05:58):
the worst clip, by the way. So this is the
person that wants to flatten Gaza and turn it into Dubai.
He sees it as a big property deal. And here's
small Trich. This is Trump's buddy, Bezelaus, Small Trich. Gaza
is a potential real estate bonanza. Israel talking with the

(01:06:24):
US about dividing it up. That's the times of Israel
right there. Times of Israel. So they're not hiding it.
They're not hiding it. And this is the ash heap
that Donald Trump is presiding over here. This is how
they're going to get their big real estate deal. Look

(01:06:44):
at this. This is an academic report done by academics
and scientists doing a full multi variant analysis data analysis
on the dead and the missing in Gaza. The true
number right now from direct Israeli airstrikes, starvation, malnutrition, dysentery, injuries,

(01:07:16):
dead and missing in the last two years. They estimate,
based on data collected, six hundred and eighty thousand dead
or missing, including get this, three hundred and eighty thousand
are infants under the age of five. These are Western,

(01:07:42):
a mixture of Western, and there might even be an
Israeli academic who worked on this as well, doctor Gideon Pollia,
possibly Israeli. I'm not sure we have to check that,
but let's just say conservatively, we could say easily over
two hundred and fifty thousand based on Harvard data. Verse

(01:08:04):
had at three hundred and seventy eight thousand. So let's
split the difference here half a million. Let's just call
it half a million right now, two years half a million.
At what point does the righteous indignation arrive for you
guys in America and for leaders like Keir Starmer and

(01:08:27):
Emmanuel Macron and Frederick Mertz and Ursula vanderlyon where does
the ethical or moral trigger? When does that switch get
flipped in your Do you have a heart, do you
have a conscience? Or you just terrify to the Israeli lobby.

(01:08:48):
You're gonna get Jeremy Corbyn. I'm telling you, you guys
are so on the wrong side of history that it's
not even even a list. Celebrities are breaking ranks now.
They don't care about the Zionist controlled film studios in

(01:09:12):
Hollywood denying them the next big blockbuster. They don't care.
They're coming out and speaking Ben Cumberbatch, other a list
actors and so finally breaking ranks coming out. So there
it is, folks, I mean, I mean, we don't have
to stop there. Just you know, take a look. There's

(01:09:35):
no shortage of footage. Let me look at this. That's
your legacy right there. Are you so called conservatives? Are

(01:09:56):
you so called whatever you call yourselves, Christians, Christian conservatives,
all this other stuff. Look what you guys have done.
This is what you've done. There's plenty of if all,
you don't care about the Muslims in Palestine, So there's
plenty of Christians and Christian Conservatives and Christian Orthodox Christian

(01:10:20):
and Catholic and Protestant and whatever. There's plenty of them
buried under the rubble as well, and some of their
churches are amongst all that flattened landscape. They've dropped more
munitions than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. And you guys are

(01:10:41):
sitting back saying, oh, no, no, it's not a genocide,
and no, there's no famine there. That's all Hamast propaganda.
You're content to sit back and go at that line,
which is, you know, pretty disgusting. That's your legacy. There's
blood in your hands. Everybody who's afraid to comment on

(01:11:05):
this or stayed silent because they're afraid of getting canceled
or whatever. That's your legacy. You help to manufacture consent
for this. It's not too late to sort of come
to the side of humanity on this issue. You're dealing
with a very, very incredible criminal enterprise that has carried

(01:11:29):
this out and they're not stopping in Gaza. By the way,
if this goes unpunished, there's more to come. Lebanon, etc.
Is more to come. There's no limit to what these
people will do. So that's all we're saying, we're just

(01:11:50):
trying to point this out to everybody, and you know
how bad could this get in terms of US US politics?
And if you follow our work, we have been questioning

(01:12:11):
the terrorist designation of the British direct action organization called
Palestine Action. There's a legal case, there's a legal argument,
there are legal arguments right now in process. We spoke
to at least one of the lawyers on this case

(01:12:33):
to remove the designation of terrorists from Palestine Action, a
British direct action group that doesn't hasn't carried out any
so called terrorist attacks, but they have targeted arms manufacturers
that are sending weapons to Israel, who, according to the
International Criminal Court Courts of Justice, is committing genocide. According

(01:12:54):
to the UN, is committing genocide. So that's direct action
activism that has been protected in the past by the
British courts. So that's happening now and people were questioning
that why because it sets a dangerous precedent because if

(01:13:15):
you can just label anybody a terrorist group, then and
anyone who's defending them as terrorists or supporting them as
terrorists or wearing a T shirt, where does it end?
Where exactly does that story end, And it's not. This
is not an this is not a problem that's going

(01:13:37):
to go away. It's going to get worse. And it
leads you to this can Trump label Antifa as a
domestic terror group? Legally there's no such thing, but this
is where they're going. So Antifa, this amorphous direct action group,
doesn't have any organizational hierarchy. It's just like a brand

(01:14:00):
under a concept of people that are against what they
believe are fascist entities, forces and government institutions and so forth. Now,
I have seen this group in the past doing some
crazy things, so I've been extremely critical of Antifa or

(01:14:22):
people who identify with Antifa over the years. My record's
pretty clear on that. But one of the reasons we
at twenty one wire have been critical of them is
because we believe that they were infiltrated by the federal
government and that it's an easy hangout for federal informants,

(01:14:43):
black block types who can go in there as agent
provocateurs and by doing so empower the federal government to
clamp down on the right of assembly and free speech
and taking direct action in this you know, even it
could involve fights against what they deemed to be fascist.

(01:15:06):
Of course, criminal activity you'll get arrested and charged for.
If you're engaged in assault or battery, you will get
arrested and charged. That falls under crime. Is it terrorism?
I don't think so. It's still very much in the

(01:15:26):
realm of political and criminal activity. Whereby they're not doing
suicide bombs, they're not blowing up cars. They're very public
and open about this stuff, but the federal government is
not public and open about how it infiltrates this and
every other activist group on the right, the left, the Greens,
and everything in between, including so called Islamic terror cells.

(01:15:51):
And we have covered that on this show and a
twenty first century Wire through the daily shooter genre that
we coined at twenty one Wire and Alternate Current Radio
in the board of the Room. So that's the problem here,

(01:16:13):
is the FBI under cash Bettel, will they start doing
all that dirty informant infiltration that's been going on like
crazy since Jed Goar Hoover was ahead of that organization.
It'd be very hard to not resist doing that. That's

(01:16:37):
what the institution's been doing for decades, since before the
Second World War. Hoover's rain as FBI director extended from
I believe the nineteen thirties right up to the late
nineteen sixties. It's a long tenure and they got into everybody, everybody, Hutari, militia,

(01:17:03):
patriot groups, Timothy McVeigh, Elougen City, civil rights activists, black nationalist,
white nationalist, green climate, all of it, anti war, anti Vietnam,

(01:17:26):
you name it. Al Qaeda, yeah, very involved, World Trade
Center bombing nineteen ninety three, FBI directly involved, directly. So
we're just saying that's the historic record. You might not

(01:17:51):
like it, but those are the facts. So we're concerned
about that. Of course, we're concerned about the direction in
which all of this is headed. But most of all,
we're concerned about that because that's happening right now as

(01:18:12):
we speak. It is probably the most disgusting thing. I mean,
it's shameful. And Donald Trump is just shown himself to
be such an ignoramus and such a corrupt stooch of

(01:18:33):
a foreign lobby. He's still talking about beheaded babies on
October seventh, a complete lie. And what Jamas did and
da da da da, I mean, it shows you how
weak and you know, misinformed and quite frankly just a

(01:18:54):
really stupid take on a lot of these important issues,
many of which these propaganda lines have been completely discredited
and debunked. But like Joe Biden, who was absent minded,
I think Trump at his age is also absent minded.
So we have another geriatric president, the second in a row,

(01:19:15):
who doesn't know whether he's coming or going on a
good day. And it won't be long till he'll be
wondering whether he's actually in charge or not. I think
he knows the answer to that already. We know who's
in charge. Let's take a break again. That's where we
stand on this issue. And again just to reiterate my

(01:19:39):
position in general on Charlie Kirk as an individual. Listen,
he was a political tool. He was a tool of
the billionaire donor class that pumped hundreds of millions of
dollars into Turning Point USA since twenty twelve. Charlie Kirk
was used as a figurehead. And whether they were Christian

(01:20:04):
donors or Jewish donors had both, they were all Zionists.
All those big donors were Zionists. So they expected Charlie
Kirk to be the shepherd for that flock, and he was.
He did a very good job for them for a
very long time. But things changed this year. The pressure

(01:20:25):
became too great, the fractures within MAGA, within the Trump
base that Charlie was tasked to manage eighteen to thirty
five Trump supporters, the fractures. It became irreconcirable. Differences over
the Epstein file cover up by Pambondi and the ongoing

(01:20:48):
actual holocaust in Gaza by Israel by Netanyahu backed by
Trump one and ten percent. This has become a problem.
Charlie Kirk was forced, for his own waning credibility to
address these issues. Otherwise you would as saw that base
there completely fall apart and quickly, and then, as if

(01:21:10):
by magic, this assassination, the shooting happens, of which we
don't have any really reliable forensic explanation or ballistics reports
or anything. A lot of confusion and quite frankly, some
confounding facts regarding the shooting itself, which we can get
into at another time, but plenty of people are delving

(01:21:31):
into that on social media. But before we go, well,
actually i'll leave this. I'll leave this last bit, which
is about Charlie Kirk's wife, Erica, and doing a deep
dive on his wife. Then things start to get really interesting.
We're going to leave that for Overdrive with our teammates

(01:21:51):
Hesher Ruckus, maybe Basil Valentine. We'll see. Let's take a
break right now. This is the Sunday Wire. I'm Patrick
Kennings and your host. This is twenty first century Wire
dot com. Thank you for joining us on the live streams.
We'll take a break here and we'll be back episode
five hundred and sixty one of this weekly omnibus news
and analysis radio program. And again, let's listen to the

(01:22:18):
music of Joseph Arthur. We'll be back in a minute.

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Speaker 10 (01:22:48):
Seaz, guys, how many.

Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
Children have to die?

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There are no sides when their mothers cried in no
real way to justify.

Speaker 9 (01:23:19):
Their dead.

Speaker 11 (01:23:20):
That comes from an evil sky.

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Sea sky sees file sees fire.

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God s.

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Vami Fi, a nuclear bomb dressed in a kill box.

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People can't in the scape ben to salin.

Speaker 9 (01:24:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
It's been leal fad.

Speaker 9 (01:24:15):
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Speaker 8 (01:24:41):
Because it's might be the last.

Speaker 6 (01:24:43):
Time raising him.

Speaker 11 (01:24:47):
About wu we are what's this say about the Louis,
It's not be the last.

Speaker 9 (01:25:01):
Time raise a hang.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
About we are?

Speaker 11 (01:25:09):
What's this say about? Do we a digital limit?

Speaker 5 (01:25:18):
You said?

Speaker 11 (01:25:20):
Digital life? Cut out the long along with the supply.
The prop began, the leads to the human a fellow humans,
and silence that cried.

Speaker 9 (01:25:42):
Sea cease for you sees, gods.

Speaker 11 (01:26:07):
Without equality there will always be worn. We have all
history to see how it's have been befall TRAVELAZ equals
equality from.

Speaker 12 (01:26:25):
Or else?

Speaker 9 (01:26:26):
Man can.

Speaker 11 (01:26:28):
Shirley fall see sis?

Speaker 9 (01:26:48):
Guys?

Speaker 11 (01:26:49):
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Speaker 9 (01:27:16):
This like be the last raising about me?

Speaker 6 (01:27:25):
What's this say we are?

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the Sunday Wire.
This is the Overdrive segment. I'm your host, Patrick Kenningson.
Thanks for joining us for this weekly omnibus news and
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(01:28:58):
audio streams after the program, iTunes, Spotify. We're on all
those as well. Again, thank you for joining us. Important
conversation today I went really over time on that monologue.
I had that timed. I rehearsed it. I promise I
rehearsed it. There's going to be forty minutes, and it

(01:29:18):
went an hour and in fifteen roughly. So again, our
apologies to our guests. I'm going to bring them up
on stage right now without further ado. We've got a
lot to talk about. Of course. This is Hesher, host
of the Boiler Room. Brian McLain himself, as you can see,
has residency in Where's that the Texas Governor's Office or

(01:29:42):
is that the White House? Where are you? We're at
the White House, I believe Yeah, that's that's a good trick.
You managed to get through a time portal and claw
your way in there. I hope you can stay. Maybe
you should try to occupy it, she tried to Israel
the Oval office. Just occupy it.

Speaker 13 (01:30:00):
It's pretty nice. It's a pretty nice little breakout room
I've got here. I mean, you know, we had a
couple of listeners a couple of weeks ago that didn't
like my flag set up, so you know, we fixed
it this time. I don't know how long I'll be
able to keep this room with just these stars and bars,
in here, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Just do you like the Israelis just change the locks
and then get some guns and just threaten to shoot
them if they try to take their own property back.
I mean, that's how it works, isn't it. Here's Adam
Clark Ruckus, host of The Daily Ruckus and other fine
programs in the political sphere. Ruckus, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 14 (01:30:38):
Yeah, true story. When I made the well, it's probably
not a true story, you tell me. When I made
that graphic that you see behind hesher there, I asked
the AI to make American flags, and for some strange reason,
the American flags that it first gave me were white
with blue letters and a big like star on.

Speaker 8 (01:30:55):
It was weird.

Speaker 14 (01:30:55):
I was like, wait a minute, that's not the American flag,
and it was like, oh, I apologize, and it fixed
it for me. Just kidding, but could you imagine we
are this close to that being a reality. I was
more focused on today's focus as the gold microphone which
you can see behind hasher's shoulder on the desk there.
I got the nice close up because you know, I've
always wanted one of those suckers.

Speaker 8 (01:31:17):
Maybe one day we'll see, But yeah, what.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Is the significance of the gold microphone.

Speaker 14 (01:31:22):
I mean, well, I'm glad you asked, because Trump is
obsessed with this whole gold thing and the golden error,
and everybody that comes to visit him brings him a
gold gift. And I imagine it won't be long before
one of these podcasts grifter types shows up in his
office and actually.

Speaker 8 (01:31:38):
Gives him a gold microphone.

Speaker 14 (01:31:40):
But it also symbolizes this crossover thing between the podcasters
and politics and the politicians now doing podcasts, and now
the Vice President of the United States of America sitting
in for the recently slain Charlie Kirk on his podcast,
and I was guessing that it won't be long before
we see the presidents of the United States filling that

(01:32:01):
role as well. And I'm also guessing maybe the president
might bring back remember the spirit of the old fireside
chats that one of our previous presidents is known for doing.
I think he might do that, and if he did,
it would probably be hosted from the Oval office or
a setting similar to what you see behind hasher, and
it would be most definitely on a golden microphone. Proved
me wrong, but I imagine we'll be seeing that soon, Patrick.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Yeah, that reminds me of another golden gift that I
think Netanyahu brought to Trump, which was a golden pager.
I mean that kind of gave us the creeps, didn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:32:34):
And if we break that thing open and make sure
there were no listening devices in it, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Well, yeah, that's a good point. I mean, god, I'll
bring up a picture of that. But the Israelis planted
surveillance devices on secret service ems or response emergency vehicles. Yeah,

(01:33:00):
and they also were bugging other parts of the Trump administration.
They put in his first term, we're told stingray devices
were installed to listen to Trump's phone calls and suck
in all of his data. You know how the stingray
system works, you guys?

Speaker 9 (01:33:17):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
And then Boris Johnson in his book disclosed that Netagna
who went into his private toilet and Downing Street and
put a bug in it, and British Services founded afterwards.
But imagine the front of this guy to like, personally,
what a gangster to personally put spy spyware, spy devices,

(01:33:41):
physical devices to bug the heads of the British and
American governments. And this is our greatest friend and ally
right right they were.

Speaker 13 (01:33:51):
They weren't even allowed in the in the CIA office.
There was a brilliant speech done by JS one on
one just noted it in the chat. Brilliant speech by
John Kurrico at the nine to eleven event that our
friend Jason Burmeis was mceing, and he told the story
that he's told a few times. I'm sure some of

(01:34:12):
you have heard the stories about how delegates and intelligence
people were treated when they would go to Israel. I. Mean,
it was pretty horrible. It was that really pretty horrible
kind of thing where it's like, you know, you get
invited to some Israeli event and then you come home
and your dog's had his tail cut off, and you know,

(01:34:33):
five guys have taken dumps and all your toilets and
left them there, or like these kind of things just little,
you know, like gang stalking techniques basically to kind of
just let people know, hey, if you're working with us,
we got access to you, We got access to your house,
your pets, your toilets. You know, we're sending messages. It's creepy.

(01:34:54):
It was really creepy. Also, a big shout out to
Dennis Kasinich. Jason posted a segment. Well, he posted all
of John and Kassinich's comments there, and oddly enough, it
was a nine to eleven uh, you know, focused event,
but both of their i'd say a main focus of

(01:35:15):
both of their talks were to do with US Israeli,
particularly security service relationships.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
Yeah, that was an event. I think Tucker Carlson's got
a new nine to eleven series out. I haven't watched it.
I don't know how, you know, what, what angle it's
covering and so forth, But I mean, i'm the fact
that he's put that out, that he is, you know,
giving that subject airtime to me, is you know positive.
The debate continues, of course, of course, but this is

(01:35:45):
what we were talking about just before. I mean, look
at that. Look at that, and that's supposed to go
in the Oval office. I don't think so.

Speaker 13 (01:35:55):
How many batteries could you fit in that chunk of wood?

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
I wonder?

Speaker 14 (01:35:58):
Yeah, And I realized, of course a lot of us
at the time because it was just pretty much in
the aftermath of the exploding Pager story, so everybody had
to think about and comment on that, and then of
course the bizarre gold thing and the bizarre tree thing,
but everybody forgot about it, at least I don't remember
anybody mentioning this, and it kind of just hit me recently.

(01:36:20):
It's a pager, and what are pagers used for is
to get a hold of somebody and drop what you're doing.

Speaker 8 (01:36:27):
I need you now.

Speaker 14 (01:36:28):
And I'm like, what a very strange symbolism there, because
it's coming from Israel to the United States, and I'm like,
that's the level of the extent of this special relationship,
is that we're there for Israel whenever they need us,
you know what I mean. But I don't really necessarily
see the shoe on the other foot, not that we
would necessarily need them for anything, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
Well, the implication is that this is obviously an inside
joke but not very funny about the Israeli exploding pagers
that they sent into Lebanon that killed and nimed hundreds
of innocent people, healthcare workers, civilians, disgusting and and and

(01:37:10):
they tried to target Hesbola with the exploding pagers, and
it was seen as this great operation by the Israelis
that talk about a state terrorist attack. And then that's
a cross section of a leb Lebanese olive tree or
a Palestinian olive tree that was demolished. So again another
victory lap by the I mean, it's just sadistic.

Speaker 14 (01:37:34):
And so you can give him a piece of the
bomb that they dropped on the in Iran, that bunker
or whatever, allegedly.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
Who knows. I mean, that's probably the last gift. I mean,
I would have I would have. I would not have
accepted this just because it's such a crude and a
crass thing. But then that's me. I'm not Donald Trump.
But Trump probably may have been amused by it. I
don't know, but Karaoku would be like, let's scan it,
and you know, this is a bug for the Oval office. Basically,

(01:38:03):
who knows? It could blow up, could be a threat
to Trump in a way. That's how I'm looking at it.
It's kind of a threat, you know, to Trump. But
she's I mean, these people are unbelievable. So, you guys,
hate speech. The woke right has has revealed itself. Finally

(01:38:23):
the mask is off, the real the one we've been
talking about, the woke, the real woke right that will
do and trample on the US Constitution to protect Israel.
To uh, they're using this idea of like defending Charlie Kirk,
Saint Charlie. It's it's gotten ridiculous. I mean, have you

(01:38:47):
seen the funeral in Arizona. Have you guys seen the procession.

Speaker 13 (01:38:52):
It's crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:38:54):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of there's a lot
of people there. It's pretty wild. My roommate is actually there.
She flew out yesterday to attend. But a lot of
people travel from all around the country, some people from
outside the country just to attend this event that has
gotten way out of hand as far as the crowds
are concerned. And the level of the event is what's

(01:39:16):
called a seer level one sear this is something that
they would do this for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:39:21):
So they brought in like all of the.

Speaker 14 (01:39:22):
People, so DHS, FBI, the army and the drones and
all the usual suspects. And they already arrested a certain
weird person that showed up allegedly posing as a law
enforcement officer.

Speaker 8 (01:39:35):
I don't know, there's not much there there, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Did have a copy of it. Did he did he
leave a copy of the Koran on his rented He.

Speaker 8 (01:39:43):
Just looked like a guy.

Speaker 14 (01:39:45):
He seemed like he just wanted to fit in and
look cool, to be honest with you, but he had
like a fake badge and he had like a gun
and a knife on him. And I don't know, but
they tried to make a big deal about it because
before this event, of course, the I believe it was
the Department of Homeland Security came out and issued a
big old boo We're going to scare you threat and report,
like saying, hey, be on the lookout, be careful, don't

(01:40:05):
go out in large crowds if you can help it.
I'm like, right before this big thing, and they're saying
like this is going to be a target and that
people are going to get hurt, and that they're also
going to target. They very specific and said they were
then going to wait till the people from the mass
casualty event were going to get to the hospitals, and
then they were going to hit the hospitals too, at
it's the worst moment, very specific stuff, and I'm just like,

(01:40:27):
I don't know. I don't think they're going that far.
I think this is more of a symbolic ceremony thing.
This is more esoteric stuff. It's more about Martyring. They're
doing this whole Martyring the guy. I mean literally, people
are sharing on their social media pay We just passed
this then on the way to the Charlie Kirk event,
and it's got like Bible passages, but it doesn't quote
the Bible. It just says John three point sixteen or whatever.

(01:40:51):
I'm just using that as example. And then it says
like something about Charlie Kirk, and I'm just like, what,
hold on a second. If you're going to throw up
the Bible thing, you might as well put up the
Bible first, not the quote from Charlie Kirk, and then
attach a Bible. Just the number makes no they're really
doing this weird stuff with it. And then, of course,
if you haven't heard yet, Patrick, apparently it was a miracle.

(01:41:13):
Charlie saved the people's lives around him because that bullet
was supposed to go through him.

Speaker 8 (01:41:17):
But he's the man of Steel.

Speaker 14 (01:41:18):
Those are the words that they used, exactly like Superman,
and he just somehow miraculously had had the.

Speaker 8 (01:41:24):
Shoulder plate made of steel and stopped that bullet.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Are you sure it was made of steel and it
wasn't made of passports.

Speaker 14 (01:41:32):
Because maybe the same thing that was coding those passports
nine to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
That's the new plate, a new plate that's made of
passports that's indestructible. Yeah, and Egyptian passports. So that thousands
gather for Charlie Kirk vigil in London. In London, the
UK stands with American patriots, Rest in peace, Charlie. I mean,

(01:41:58):
who's paying for that one? Probably Elon, I would imagine,
or Israel. So that's all going on. And yeah, I
mean I'll bring up some you know, Arizona stuff. Yeah,
it's just it's gotten ridiculous. The proportions of this. They

(01:42:21):
it's it's you know, and the right because the left
they're trying to match George Floyd, Okay, and they'll say, well,
you did it with George Floyd, so we're gonna do
it here with Charlie. We're gonna lie and we're gonna
make them into a saint. We're gonna do the murals,
the public statues, the sculptures, all that stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:42:38):
Same birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
And he deserves it more, you know, because George Floyd
was a drug addicted, drug dealing criminal and a porn star.
And Charlie is up upstanding Christian conservative, so he deserves
this deification if you will, and to me, it's all
the same that political forces are using Charlie Kirk as

(01:43:04):
they did when he was alive. After he's dead, they're
using him to squeeze out more political capital and gain
leverage through his death or through the narratives that they're
trying to wrap around this story before we even have
the facts. By the way, the motives, it's all very murky.

(01:43:28):
The forensic case still very murky, but the narratives are
crystal clear. Right, So this is a this is this
is a huge sign if there ever was one. This
is so clear, and it's being orchestrated from the White
House so clearly, from that level and from Tel Aviv,

(01:43:51):
as we've demonstrated in the first segment with Netta, who's
personal involvement in trying to shape Neatina, who came out
of the gate I didn't show that video and he
said this is when radical Islam and the radical left
have come together, and he already tried to project that
on the Kirk shooting. He did not hesitate. It was

(01:44:15):
like it was like reflex reflexive, and then he comes
out with all these denials which are kind of embarrassing
for him. I mean I would be, but I think
this guy's way beyond embarrassment. It's it's incredible your thoughts,
gentlemen on this madness.

Speaker 13 (01:44:33):
I mean coming out and saying we didn't do it. Before,
like you know, most of the internet started even questioning it,
or at least a percentage of it. It was not
a good look. Definitely not a good look. I mean,
it's the it's you know, the who stole the cookie
from the cookie jar scenario. It's like a child Basically,
I didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:44:54):
To be fair, people were spreading that rumor online, but
it was not to the degree of like a hit
mainstream head, like the common person didn't know. So it
was an out of proportion, knee jerk reaction to a
bunch of like nobody's on social media. And I was like,
but either way, I was just like, who says that?
I mean, even I wouldn't even even address it. I mean,
because these people are not stupid. Maybe I don't know,

(01:45:16):
maybe this guy is not that bright Patrick. I mean,
would you don't you think that he or somebody around
him understands any of these people, any of these situations.
Don't they understand what this stuff looks like, I say, yes,
so I think that they're doing all this on purpose.
And that's what I can't I can't wrap my head
around is why why they do this stuff? Why are
they so brazen about it?

Speaker 8 (01:45:35):
Do they want us to know it is? That is
the Sinnetzchen?

Speaker 14 (01:45:39):
Is that the quote and I saying his name right
where it's like they know we know that you you know,
we know, and then they know that we know, and
we know that they know that we know, et cetera
or whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:45:50):
That's how I feel about it, right A.

Speaker 13 (01:45:54):
Sorry, Pat, It's almost as though it's such the obvious
conclusion and the government response from it. It is the
obvious conclusion considering especially the conversational environment on x okay,
like it is probably the you know what I mean,
it's the nano thermite of this story. It appears to

(01:46:14):
be the primary second option for a lot of people
who are trying to come to a conclusion without enough evidence. So,
I mean, if it is if it were, let's say,
if it were to be have been an op that
was organized by them, you would think that they would
understand and be able to predict the way that the

(01:46:39):
temperature the barometer on X would respond to it. So
I think Ruckus and I and a few number of
listeners I've spoken to and colleagues kind of have a
concern that this is such the obvious answer. Maybe it's
the one they want people to come to so that
we can see this kind of response from Bondie and others.

(01:47:00):
It's almost like they're trying to inflame and enrage upon
what we're told we're not supposed to say and talk about.
But everybody's saying and talking about, well, what would the
problem reaction solution? What would the solution part be? Would
it be authoritarian clamp down on your First Amendment rights,
your rights to travel, your rights to attend school. I mean,

(01:47:23):
if such a thing exists, you know what I mean,
it's it's like hmm, And it doesn't make the theory
untrue or true. It just sort of is in the
media sphere.

Speaker 10 (01:47:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
Yeah, Well, you got to get on board with all
the you know that sort of national collective mourning if
you will. I mean, it's like the Pope died or something.
I mean, it's just, you know, Charlie Kirk wasn't a
particularly deep intellectual. He was really just kind of in

(01:48:00):
a way a conservative Carnival Barker, a provocateur. You know,
maybe I got a little bit of a viewpoint of
what some of his principles are, but he was also
contradicting himself a lot over the years. And it's just
a young guy. He's thirty one years old and he

(01:48:20):
is meddling with forces of nature and the hundreds of
millions of dollars in the billionaire class that's way above
his pay grade, you know. Despite the lofty, you know
position and turning point. This political action group masquerading as
a not for profit, I mean, it's just a pack
with an events in a media arm basically, and it's

(01:48:43):
there to shepherd the young maga vote and keep them
in the camp of Israel was one of the priorities.
Here's the Arizona motorcade. We'll play this there. It is
charl This is whoever this person is Arizona motorcade chart
Charlie arrives at his home. Charlie was loved by millions.

(01:49:04):
Thank you Arizona for this tribute. That's my hood right there.
I definitely would probably not be attending this one. So yeah,
they shut down the major freeways here I'm not sure
this is like the one on one or something. Yeah,
just an endless motorcade for Charlie. This is quite a

(01:49:25):
long clip. We'll see what else they've got for us.
Lots of state vehicles, right, federal vehicles. How much did
this thing cost to put on? I mean, the governor dies,
he's not going to get anything like this.

Speaker 14 (01:49:40):
So it's just this is just so paid for it
from Erica Kirk's GoFundMe war chest.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
Oh yeah, that's interesting. You know I found out she
was she's a millionaire before she married Kirk. They're millionaires.
They live in a six million dollar home in Scottsdale.
Guy's ever been to Scottsdale?

Speaker 8 (01:49:58):
You know what, who's going to take care them? What
will they ever do?

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
And for the kids? Sean Hannity was pumping out their
GoFundMe thing or give send go, give sen go, saying, oh,
we got to look after the Kirks.

Speaker 14 (01:50:09):
You know, you mentioned the pope dying. It's funny, not funny,
but the pope really did die. But we really didn't
see a reaction quite like we're seeing here over Kirk dying.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
No, no, not for the pope, not for the boat
So on the subject of Charlie's wife, some interesting stuff
has emerged. I thought I would share it with you, gentlemen,
because it's ever so interesting and it's going to raise
a lot more questions. Basil Valentine is in the house

(01:50:39):
there in the new the Valentine vineyards in the Cote dessour,
your knew French property in the door, How is the
how's the winery going?

Speaker 6 (01:50:52):
I met my chateau in the door down as you
can say.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Are you are you going to be producing uh chateau
or is it going to be that's down the road.
So what are you specializing in here?

Speaker 9 (01:51:07):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:51:08):
Lescott boum divinis.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Very nice, very nice with a little bif tech with
that would be extremely nice. So we're talking about uh, well,
we'll talk about the hate speech play by the so
called conservatives here. But I wanted to share this with
you guys because I think this is uh, this is

(01:51:35):
just something not to be missed. And let's bring this
up here. Get the the details of this coming up
on screen. Hold on, hold on for a second. Yeah,
there it is. Yeah. So Charlie Kirk's wife, I don't
know if you guys know much about her. About you

(01:51:58):
know her background, but I'm telling you it's not looking good.
And why didn't we know this before? Why isn't this
being brought up now? So listen carefully, you guys, and
tell me what you think after this. This is up
at General Patten's ghost. I don't know who this TikToker
is here. This girl, she's American. She's just done a

(01:52:21):
deep dive on Charlie's wife.

Speaker 15 (01:52:22):
Well, when's Arizona?

Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
Here we go? So let me bring this up. Okay,
listen closely, gentlemen, take notes and please anybody if you
want to fact check this, go ahead. But she's she's
got article screenshots on the thing. We can go back
and look at this, but it seems to be it

(01:52:44):
seems to be all lined up.

Speaker 15 (01:52:45):
Listen twelve, When's miss Arizona competes in Miss USA? A
pageant owned by dot dot Dot Trump.

Speaker 8 (01:52:51):
Okay, I want to know something really weird.

Speaker 15 (01:52:53):
So she had said it in a podcast that she
had never competed in pageants and had never done any
modeling before until one day she receives an invitation in
the mail to become a model and start doing pageants.
And the pageants that she started doing were Miss USA
pageants owned by Trump, so she modeled for Trump. She
was one of Trump's pageant girls. But did you know

(01:53:13):
that she was also a casting director at the same
time that she was doing all this stuff for Trump.
How she doesn't specify on her website if she worked
as a casting director for Trump. But around the time
that she was claiming to be a casting director, she
also owned a ministry that was working with the US
military in Romania. The area in Romania where she was

(01:53:34):
operating this ministry had a bunch of locals accusing these
evangelical ministries of kidnapping children and trafficking them out of
the country. These children were being found in the UK
in Israel and were also being sent to undisclosed private islands.

Speaker 8 (01:53:50):
Locals demanded authorities look into it, but they never did.

Speaker 15 (01:53:54):
Now Harley Kirk really wanted the Epstein files released, but
did his wife. Prior to mayor during Charlie Kirk, she
was a multi millionaire on her own, and since his passing,
she's also a mass all of his wealth plus an
additional at least five million dollars in donations. He's currently
considered the most powerful woman in the United States. With

(01:54:17):
mega fans begging her to run as vice president in
twenty twenty eight Let's talked about her first date because
it was actually a job interview. Back in twenty eighteen,
two years after Donald Trump had started working with Charlie Kirk,
Charlie Kirk had hosted a Turning Point USA opening event
for one of the offices that they had opened, and
Erica and Charlie Kirk were introduced to each other. Charlie
Kirk instantly thought that she was beautiful, but thought that

(01:54:38):
she was really smart, and allegedly one of their mutuals
had suggested that Charlie Kirk hire Erica. I'm assuming as
was Donald Trump or someone on his team because Donald
Trump had signed on to work with Charlie Kirk and
Erica was already one of Donald Trump's employees, so it
would make the most sense for Donald Trump and his
team to encourage Charlie Kirk to hire Donald Trump's employees. Anyways,
Charlie Kirk DMed Erica invited her for a job interview.

(01:54:59):
The job interview ended up turning into a date, and
Erica allegedly had said, You're not going to be my boss,
You're gonna do you're.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
Gonna be my husband. Yes, guys, that's that's a little
bit creepy. If all that is true and lines up,
obviously we'd have to fact check all that. But let's
assume that what she said there, what she's presented, there
are all facts that Charlie Kirk's wife was under Donald

(01:55:27):
Trump's wing. Got a random letter in the post saying
you're going to be a model, You're going to compete
in these pageants. I mean, how does that work? And
under Donald Trump's kind of pageants? She does look like
Trump's type, which is that eighties looking blonde. I mean, so,
I mean, you know what I'm implying here, but let's

(01:55:51):
let's be let's be realistic. It just seems and then
the Romanian thing, the child trafficking Israel connection, it's not
looking good. It's not looking good. And then begging on
the gifts and go fundraising. These people are multimillionaires, and
people are giving people. Working class people are giving their

(01:56:13):
hard earned money to multimillionaires. They've been grifting off the
political system for over a decade, and people who don't
have money are throwing money at rich people. It's kind
of disgusting, but this is how it works these days.
People don't ask questions. They just move with the crowd,

(01:56:34):
and that you're taught what to feel, taught what emotions
to have. H go ahead and wait, Basili, go ahead
and weigh in and want to hear what.

Speaker 6 (01:56:44):
Well, we don't you know, we.

Speaker 12 (01:56:45):
Don't know about I don't know about the you know,
details of the romance between Charlie Kirk and Erica.

Speaker 6 (01:56:52):
But there's sort of a twinge of the MK ultra.

Speaker 12 (01:56:58):
Model type Sinnari wry her about it, the way she
was pre selected, and that she is one of these
sort of identic kit looking blondes. Really, I mean, you know,
as I say, I don't pretend to know the details
of how they got together or what sort of relationship
they had. But as we noticed last week, there was

(01:57:21):
some very very strange stuff in the immediate aftermath of
Charlie's death. She was smirking, very obviously smirking, almost to
the point of giggling, in a piece to camera that
she did from the studio I think within forty eight
hours of his public execution. And then there was another

(01:57:41):
bit of footage where she was supposedly stroking his hand
and telling him how much she loved him, or at
least telling his corpse how much she loved him. But
we didn't see Charlie's face. Now, very often if somebody's
shot in the face or something, that's because that, you know,
people don't want to see the face. But Charlie was

(01:58:02):
shot in the neck, and there's no reason why his
face couldn't have been shown. I'm sure they could have
covered up the bullet wound in his neck or whatever.
So those two examples of rather odd behavior by her
in the immediate aftermath of the event, you know, And
she has now been nominated as the potential a torch

(01:58:23):
bearer for a turning point. She is the person that
I've seen online recommended. As you know, there's nobody better
to carry on Charlie's legacy than Erica.

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
And she is.

Speaker 8 (01:58:34):
She's been confirmed as the new CEO. That's not a rumor.

Speaker 12 (01:58:37):
There you go, So do you know what I mean, guys,
it's a little bit. I don't want to sound on
the conspiratorial list, but there is something. As soon as
I heard that word model and that she'd been pre
selected by the Trump team and all the rest of it.

Speaker 6 (01:58:51):
For some reason, MK Ultra came to.

Speaker 12 (01:58:53):
Mind, you know, and also the sort of you know,
the straight jacketed thinking that goes with that role. Now
you know, as we all know, Charlie was beginning to
wake up about the horrors of the Middle East to
some degree, or at least was willing to platform dissenting opinions.

(01:59:15):
But generally, that whole Christian Zionist mindset is a fixed position.
You're not allowed to deviate from it. From the sort
of eternal sunshine version of the American dream with the
blonde wife and the perfect kids and all the rest

(01:59:35):
of it. That's your reality. There's no woo woo stuff,
There's no do you know what I mean, There's no deviation.
There's very limited opportunity for personal growth or evolution. It's
even if not overtly a mind control program then you know, subconsciously,

(01:59:58):
in terms of the sort of role you are expected
to inhabit, then it's very much a very narrow path where, yes,
your thoughts and opinions are heavily censored.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
Half a million a year as CEO of turning they
probably should probably clock in half a million maybe more
as a sort of just a little bit of passive
income show up flood of the eyelids, make a few
little speeches, some photo ops, and that's it. That's your
job done. Bring Ben Shapiro in to talk to the students.

(02:00:33):
I mean, it's just going to be great. You know,
what do you think about this, guys? I mean it's.

Speaker 6 (02:00:42):
I mean, I hope Shapiro is sidelined.

Speaker 12 (02:00:44):
I don't think the you know, turning Point base are
going to take to Shapiro in anything like the way
they did Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 6 (02:00:51):
I think that what they'll all be worrying about is that.

Speaker 12 (02:00:56):
Candice Owans and more pointedly Tuck Carlson take up the
Charlie Kirk mantle, because ideologically those two were originally closer to.

Speaker 6 (02:01:06):
Him than anyone else.

Speaker 12 (02:01:07):
Now both of them have woken up to varying degrees
about Israel, and if they're able to get to the
base and point out just how horrific the show in
the Middle East is, then that's I mean, I saw
that's potentially fatal. I saw some rabbi part of the

(02:01:29):
Republican Jewish Coalition talking about the danger of Israel losing
young people, majority of them under forties, etc. On the
subject of Israel, and he said We've already lost the Democrats.
If we lose the Republicans as well, we're doomed. That
footage came to light in the immediate aftermath of Kirk's assassination, so.

Speaker 6 (02:01:57):
You know, we'll see. I don't think Turning Point will
be anything like the force it was. I don't you know.
It was very much his show, and.

Speaker 12 (02:02:06):
You know, now he's gone, the numbers will be down,
the interest will be down. I think people will start
looking elsewhere, you know, and there's never going to be
any as I think it was. Harrison Smith, is it?
The Info Wars guy said, you know, like nine to eleven,
We're not going to suddenly find a gun with Benjamin

(02:02:28):
Nettinya who's fingerprints all over it. I mean, if Israel
did do it, would you expect to see it leading
as the lead story on the CBS Evening News, you know,
on the BBC of course not. So, you know, like
nine to eleven, JFK, all these other deep events. You know,
they've got a suitable patsy and a cover story and

(02:02:49):
they're going to ram it down your throats.

Speaker 6 (02:02:52):
Till you shut up.

Speaker 12 (02:02:53):
But as Hesha said that the conversation on X these days,
which doesn't reach what one might call low information people.
And there are still large numbers of baby boomers and
you know, just non interested parties as it were, who

(02:03:15):
do continue to use corporate media as if not their soul,
then their primary news source. So you know, it's probably
sixty percent of the population and they're sort of they've
been sold the patsy you're talking on the x VERA,
I would say, I mean to know what you think

(02:03:36):
about forty percent of the population would be influenced to
some degree or other by what they learn additionally on
x and social media. But in terms of the damage
done to Israel's reputation from the point of view, you know,
the Bill Ackman meeting, the bribe that was off with

(02:04:00):
one hundred and fifty million dollars, so on and so forth.
I think everybody's well aware whether whoever pulled the trigger
Charlie was being very, very seriously pressured in a gangsterish
way to stay on the reservation.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
And we hold that thought for a moment, Basil, and
we'll go to Hesher and Rucus in a second, but
we're just going to do a thought experiment here with
our listeners. In the comment sections, and so forth. I mean,
this is over the over at the funeral processions here
in Arizona, the beautiful dry landscape highways of Greater Phoenix.

(02:04:41):
What does this remind you of? I'm just going to
play this and what's the first This is the raw
shark test for our listeners. As for Hesher, Rucus and
Basil's probably and don't don't say it out loud immediately,
but just give it a few seconds. What does this
remind you of? Raw shark test? Straight up? This scene here,

(02:05:04):
hesshure O, J Simpson, Chase Hesha wins a T shirt ruckus.
I hope you're thinking the same thing.

Speaker 13 (02:05:14):
He wrote it down. I saw it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
Yeah, that's proof.

Speaker 12 (02:05:21):
I also had described the kirk assassination described as a
fifth rate JFK tribute act.

Speaker 5 (02:05:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
See, look at this. Our listeners, our viewers are on
the case. They thought they saw the white bronco. They
got the vibe. That's right, oj. I love the fact
that we're all on the same we are all vibing
on the same page. I love that. That's how That's
how great of a listener base we have on this Brooke,

(02:05:53):
look at him, all of them. I didn't need to
say anything is all there boom straight in with the
OJ straight in. Amazing.

Speaker 14 (02:06:02):
It really has everything. It's even got the OJ thing.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
Oh my goodness. Yeah it is a bit creepy. Yeah, jeez.
The juice is loose. You know what, right, Elvis, look
at this. The juice is loose.

Speaker 8 (02:06:21):
Used to be made. This is all AI.

Speaker 14 (02:06:22):
This is all fake because AI likes to reuse these
old images and they're like, well, people are fascinated by
watching this vehicle moving on the nemorind but maybe, but.

Speaker 1 (02:06:32):
It doesn't look here's the problem. It doesn't look like
a hearst. I mean, it looks more like, uh, it's
just kind of a pickup with a with a soft
top on the back. Is that just me? Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:06:45):
It kind of kind of like reminds me of the
old like Suzuki Samurai me and my friend used to
roll around in back in high school.

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
It could be a landscape guy. I mean, a hearst
is usually black with a visible, you know, big window
in the back. And this I guess this is the
Arizona version of a hearst.

Speaker 8 (02:07:03):
Well that's the point.

Speaker 14 (02:07:04):
Okay, So there's this huge inversion thing going on. This
is what I can't get out of my head like
you brought up George Floyd, right, and the inversion taking
place there between these two characters. Okay, And I'm sure
by now you've heard, and I tried to blurt it out,
but the people in the comments already know that we
discussed it on Boiler Room. But they had the same
birthday October fourteenth, different years. But isn't that a little

(02:07:27):
odd too? The thing is that with Erica, she was
wearing the white with the little black trim underneath it,
the inverted you know, the white on the black instead
of black morning And same thing here with this vehicle.
It's not a blackhurst, it's a white vehicle. Everything is opposite.
And I think this is all part of the ritual

(02:07:47):
that we're experiencing right now. How we're I don't know
how else to describe it. Also, I don't I'm not sold,
and it would be hard to sell me, prove me wrong.
As Charlie would say, right on the idea that this
is all like some sort of knee jerk reaction to
his oh he was switching tunes over the Israel issue.
This entire thing is is too it's too convenient, it's

(02:08:09):
too well planned out, the timing of it, where it
took place, how it took place. This was not a
knee jerk reaction. And I think that the that that
might some of that might actually be injected. We don't
know for sure. We hear stories from people that sometimes
from people that we know, but we're seeing these stories
in these reports and like, oh, did you know that
he was changing his mind about Israel?

Speaker 8 (02:08:30):
That was all news to us.

Speaker 1 (02:08:31):
So just recently, like, well, let me let me comment
on that rocks. There's a lot of grounding to that,
and the grey Zone reporting validates a lot of that.
So I think there's a lot of evidence to that effect,
multiple sources and so forth. So the over the top
over compensation, over correction of the narrative that you're seeing

(02:08:55):
this is gushing over the top reflexive reaction to cannonize
Charlie and turn it into a lying in state bigger
than Michael Jackson's funeral and so forth, that that would
be a natural reaction to try to cover up and
flood the zone, to push all of these other facts

(02:09:16):
out to the periphery. I mean, this is I have
we've seen this before. This is what they do again
of Kurt boss is taking the Mickey and the Arizona
landscapes as it could be on Mars. Many say the
parts of Phoenix do look like Mars. So that's true.
And and it is hot, very hot, not so hot

(02:09:37):
now good good, good weather. Now I'm learning so much
from you, Patrick, Thank you. That's what we're here for.
Swim against the Stream says, that's why we're here. Isn't
that right? Guys? I mean, what else can we say?
And a horse drawn carriage that would have been a
nice touch. I just there's no spectacle there with a
white pickup Hurst. I'm not admonishing Charlie and his memory there.

(02:10:03):
I'm just saying, just doesn't look right. It's just an
aesthetic comment. I think Ruckus is onto something with the white,
the symbolism of the white.

Speaker 14 (02:10:17):
It's say, okay, which I do want to point this out.
I guess there's a lot of reports and I think
we'll see more of this. Okay, I'll take the tinfoil
hat off again. So the church thing, there's this phenomenon happening,
and I think we'll see more of this. That's there's
an abnormal amount of young people in particular will probably
be what's reported most coming to church people for the

(02:10:38):
first time ever. And in fact, we're already seeing examples
of some people who are like streamers on like video
game streamers, who are like known to be living a
sinful life. They're like this, this has changed my life.
This event has changed I want to be a spiritual
person now. And as a Christian, I'm like, hey, that's great,
But we do live in a society and an environment
where the vast majority of people who are now going

(02:11:00):
to be rushing into these churches.

Speaker 8 (02:11:02):
What type of churches are they going to be going to? Oh,
I'm just going to take a wild guess.

Speaker 14 (02:11:06):
We are best friends with Israel type churches and that,
and that might not necessarily be helping. It could ultimately
be hurting. Just wanted to point that out.

Speaker 1 (02:11:16):
Well, on that note, Ruckus, let's bring this up on
stage here, guys. As Rugus talks. This is at the
funeral there there's a man carrying the cross up Calvary Hill.
I mean, look at these. I don't know if you

(02:11:46):
guys have been to see this cheesy Christian rock. I
just can't stand it. But this is Mario and Nefal's
Twitter account man caring cross spotted as tens of thousands
worship at Charlie Kirk's memorial, says Mario fall. So there's
some cutting edge journalism there from Mario.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
I just.

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
But yeah, what do you think?

Speaker 13 (02:12:08):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:12:09):
Ruckus there? It is right there, That's exactly what. So
this is the Disney This is the Disney World version
of Christianity for the twenty first century. I mean, this
is what we've been reduced to, is props stunted and
these sort.

Speaker 8 (02:12:24):
Of level of prophetic stuff. There's this one.

Speaker 14 (02:12:29):
I think he's a pastor. Correct me if I'm wrong here,
But Kim Clement. Have you heard of this guy or
seen this guy? Kim Clement? He made some predictions apparently
before Trump became president, the first time he predicted Trump
would be president. He's known for this allegedly. I didn't
really know this, but he has some prophetic words, or
had some in the recent past before, way before this event,

(02:12:52):
involving Erica allegedly and using her as like this prophetic
woman who's going to pour out some sort of oil
which is like some sort of spiritual anointing thing, and
like it's going to bring people together. And that was
The last thing I wanted to bring up about this
weird inversion between her and or Charlie and the Floyd
thing is the ultimate end result what happened with the

(02:13:12):
Floyd is that it, I mean, that really tore this
country apart. We were severely divided, and since this event
took place, we've all been kind of on the edge
of our seats waiting for something to happen, something to
pop up. There's all this talk about civil war, civil war.
I think that's not going to happen. In fact, I
think there's going to be a more like the accepted

(02:13:33):
thing might be a unity and we might actually call
me crazy, but it's all going to be a planned demolition,
but not a demolition emerging. We will actually see the
uniparty Pulitz mask off, the left and the right actually
start to come together and the country over this stuff.
And I think that that's the new narrative that we're
going to be going through and that people, in particular

(02:13:53):
anti religious people are going to have a big problem
with that. And the dirty administration is still going to
do dirty ad ministry stuff. They're still in bed with technocracy,
and that leaves hard hitting journalists like us still getting
umped into the other side just because we have some
questions and concerns about any policies coming forth moving forward,
because to the people who are going to be brainwashing

(02:14:15):
into this, we're all good guys. Now we're going to
look like evil satanic people. Can you imagine rucks being
called satanic?

Speaker 1 (02:14:21):
I mean, well, look, I hear this complaint, especially from
people who believe they're on the conservative side or on
the right. They're like, I can't support Palestine because Greta
Thunberg is supporting Palestine. Oh my god, I do want
to get lumped in with the left. That type of
thinking is really that's the road to total defeat if

(02:14:42):
you care about the issues and not the party politics.
And I don't care what people can lump me into
whatever fake paradigm they want. We do facts. We're after
the truth, and we have a good track record of
finding it and sharing that with our our audience. And uh,

(02:15:04):
and we're not going to change period. So all this
stuff can change around us. I don't care. We're like
a rock in the middle of the river and we're
gonna stay there. And uh, we we are our objectives
and our purpose is not changed. It's quite simple. You know.
If if people want to project politics onto you or
me or hasher or Basil or any of our colleagues

(02:15:26):
on this, you know, that's that's that's their business, and
that will just wash away eventually because the truth is
the truth and the facts of the facts, and eventually
they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna bear out over time.
Now I want to I want to highlight a comment
which I I actually don't like this comment and this
is from account called doctor nick Riviera and said the

(02:15:51):
massad front known as the Gray Zone. Well, doctor Nick Riviera,
you know, making a comment like that, I would say
that you're a massad because the grey Zone has broken
more stories that have embarrassed, upset and derailed Israel, Deep State,

(02:16:12):
NATO countless they're doing, I have to say, outstanding work
more than outstanding more than outstanding work more they're making
a huge impact. So for you saying that you are
exposing yourself mister doctor nick Riviera whatever, if that's your
real name or not. The cat cat icon PfP there.

(02:16:36):
So it's it's comments like this that and I feel
like I want to go back and look at this
person's thread of comments to see what else they're pushing out.
But that's that's a ridiculous and stupid thing to say.
I will just say straight up. And because we've shared
so much of the reporting on this show, and most it.

Speaker 12 (02:16:59):
Says and Marte, I assume got something very odd about
Syria though twice.

Speaker 1 (02:17:05):
You know, it doesn't matter, you know, whether they were
odd about Syria. You know where we were supposedly correct
on Syria. And many people with some of these other
outlets relate to the party and they get you get
all this stuff that doesn't really matter anymore. It's done.

Speaker 12 (02:17:24):
I mean, you know, Nathaniov actually actually come out in
the week and rebut the Grey Zones, you know Max
Bluemintal in particular his research, So no, I think they
are to all in this side of the Israelis. And
Max Bluemental was on Info Wars in the week. So
there's some interesting cross pollination going on between left and right.

(02:17:49):
You made the point a moment ago that a lot
of people on the so called right feel they cannot
support Palestine because of Gretathenburg's involvement.

Speaker 6 (02:17:57):
And it's generally con a left issue.

Speaker 12 (02:18:01):
I mean, how ridiculous is that personally, I think the
whole left right paradigm is long since redundant and automatically
creates division. As soon as you say you're on the left,
somebody's on the left, this is a left issue. Half
the population alienated immediately. Or you know, setting up a

(02:18:24):
new party, your party, or it is a left party,
well then it has to be opposed and ridiculed by
people who claim they're on the right. And one of
the reasons we're in that situation is that there are
very few, if any, to be honest, guiding principles behind
politics these days.

Speaker 6 (02:18:43):
You know, what is politics for? What is any party for?
Is it not for the amelioration of the social life.

Speaker 1 (02:18:50):
Of the whole of the country or human suffering, the.

Speaker 12 (02:18:53):
Alleviation of human suffering exactly. So you know, we need
some of these core principles to be laid down, which
to do with left and right, which of course was
all about politifical economy and the distribution of wealth and
ownership of capital. That's the original left right you know ballas,
but that to some extent now is redundant. When it's
a case of as the late great Ian Crane used

(02:19:17):
to say humanity versus insanity.

Speaker 1 (02:19:20):
Well, and the American eagle needs two wings to fly,
It needs a right and a left wing. If it
has too much of either, it goes into a tailspin,
which has happened on both sides multiple times. So and
this is the last time I'm going to I'm going
to comment on doctor Nick Reeve because he's put out
another ridiculous comment and this is the last one, and

(02:19:41):
I'll probably have to knock this on the head. But
he says, is Max Blumenthal being amplified because now Nettignan
who is a liability and they are looking to save
the state of Israel. Max Blumenthal, his work has been
amplified for like the last ten plus years, okay, fifteen years.

(02:20:04):
So I don't know where you washed up on the
shore of the information highway here just this week. But
come on, guys, it's kind of stupid. It's like, this
is as dumb of a comment as somebody's saying. And
I'm not picking on this particular person. Obviously he doesn't
know what he's a lot doesn't really understand the wider scope.
But these are people who say, why is all of

(02:20:26):
a sudden Palestine an issue? This must be some kind
of psyop. No, it's been an issue for decades. This
has been a major issue globally, right there with the
nuclear disarmament and everything else, since the sixties, since before
most of you were born. People in our comments, but

(02:20:47):
because people have just been red pilled to it recently,
they'll say, oh my god, look at all this pro
Palestinian pro Haamas. They're calling it pro Haamas whatever. It
must be a syop. They're trying to co opt us.
And you know, no, it's just that it's gotten so
bad that it's hard to sweep it under the rug. Now,
that's the reality of it. And yeah, there's no sigh

(02:21:10):
up folks on that. But anyway, I'll leave that there
because I just can't address all these ridiculous comments. But anyway,
back to the original line of questioning, I went to
Basle first hesher turning point, USA, what we see when
you see all of this injection of energy money, It's

(02:21:33):
almost like I'm writing the obituary of this organization right now,
because it looks like it's just going to turn into
something stupid and become a shell of its former self.
I've seen this time and time again, where they try
to artificially inflate things, only for them to basically it's

(02:21:54):
almost like then everyone's going to cash out, take what
they can, pump it up with steroids and money, and
then it's it'll just become like a brand at Sea
pack or it'll turn into some other monstrosity and then
no one will be really following it. I see the
base fracturing, and I don't think they're going to be

(02:22:15):
able to bring it back together because it was. It
fractured because of real reasons, not because in this deification
of Charlie Kirk, creating this myth is not going to
make Turning Point more relevant because the issues that it
broke on were real political issues.

Speaker 13 (02:22:31):
HES share your thoughts, well, I mean, the bigger question
other than like what's going to happen to TPUSA is
what about Mega. You know, TPUSA sort of represents MAGA,
and maga's been in a serious state of fracturization for
a long time and it was sort of pre like

(02:22:52):
pre set up to do that. The way that MAGA
two point zero for Trump two point zero was sort
of arranged a bombastic It was absolutely insane. You know,
we had three the media tell us there were three
attempts on Trump's life, one of which was equally as
bewildering as what happened in Utah, maybe more so equal

(02:23:17):
amount of nothing that we have to go on as citizens,
as far as forensic evidence, anything to back up the
narrative from that day. And then there's the whole you know,
October seven schism. There's the way the pr was arranged,
and like the narratives that surround everyone that ended up

(02:23:39):
in the Trump cabinet, was was set up ahead of time.
All the things they said they were gonna do versus
the things they are gonna do. There's just been this
whole like rug pole basically that was sort of like
brewing in the background over things like, you know, the
way that conservatives and sort of I don't know a
podcasts and independence and you know, people like us in

(02:24:03):
some cases talked about COVID, but they all showed up
two years late. They all showed up after all the cancelations,
and they still showed up, you know, not really taking
that open goal and driving it all the way home
and holding elements of government and business and state government
and corporate businesses responsible and you know, pharmaceutical companies responsible

(02:24:29):
for what has happened, politicians responsible for what has happened,
none of that, none of that.

Speaker 7 (02:24:34):
You know.

Speaker 13 (02:24:34):
Well, so the whole thing almost to me feels like
this was a giant, you know, creation of a lot
of anger during you know, between j six and the
Biden days and then throughout the Biden days was just
an an incessant, twenty four to seven ritual humiliation against

(02:24:56):
you know, conservatives and constitutionalists and independence and people that
weren't on the the woke left since we're talking about
the woke right today, Like it all just radicalized everybody
so much and activated people so much. And Charlie Kirk
was part of that, and Shapiro and you know, the
whole crowd, and you know, they they got people all
ramped up. And now it's like, okay, well Epstein, Nah,

(02:25:19):
not so much. That's not really a thing anymore. We
were wrong about that, And you know, we put a
ribbon on every conspiracy theory that you could possibly think
of from JFK. You know, we're kind of softly doing
it on nine to eleven right now, But boy did
that get overshadowed. So it's kind of like, like I've
been thinking for a while now we're we're off onto

(02:25:40):
some sort of new adventure here, and this you know,
globalist adventure has the Overton window wide open for criticism
of Israel. Almost feels like they're honey potting voices on
the internet to you know, speak up, so that there
will be a nice, tidy list of people that spoke up,
you know, that somebody can look at later and apply

(02:26:02):
new laws and policies to perhaps maybe even under a
Democrat president. Could you imagine if we had a Democrat
president next.

Speaker 1 (02:26:12):
Time, It's going to be a huge list. I think
the list is is beyond beyond list. I see your point.
I think that I think it's past the honey pot level.
This is a real reflection of in fact, the public
backlash is underplayed massively.

Speaker 13 (02:26:30):
Oh yeah, it's bad. I mean, and you know, to
to people's credit that are you know, being critical of
uh you know, Gray Zone and and just kind of
pointing fingers at everybody right now. You know, if you
watch kind of the like s tier you know, uh,
independent and alternative podcasts, like if you're watching the back

(02:26:53):
and forth that are going on between Megan Kelly Tucker, Carlson,
Candice Owens and in particular Nick Fuente who is in
there just you know, moshing big time, you know, calling
people out, pointing fingers. You know, he's he's really been
kind of whipping that audience up that he has and
it's growing every day.

Speaker 1 (02:27:15):
But him, him and Alex. Nick Fuentes and Alex have
basically backed the government line on the Charlie Kirk assassination.

Speaker 13 (02:27:23):
It's very interesting that there. I wouldn't say either of
them are backing anything. They're more doing a dance. It's
more of a tango, you know. David Ike actually criticized
Alex Jones on X. I saw it last night. I
don't know when he posted it, but I saw it
last night, and he was talking exactly about that tactic
that Alex uses, where he'll come in and he'll back

(02:27:45):
a government line, or he'll back you know, a particular
theory or slam another theory and then make some sort
of like you know, escape hatch comment on it, and
then he'll come back later and say, see, folks, I
knew we were gonna do that. I said that there
might be an escape patch on this idea. Now we're
learning this. So it's like they're both able to just
sort of very slyly and shrewdly sort of just oscillate between,

(02:28:11):
you know, different things on this. So I think that's
really affecting a lot of people. You know, the whole
euro Fed Eurofed you're a massad, your massad that that
whole thing is is really unfortunately, it's a real thing.
And we're all trying to figure out who the Fed
boys are, who the glowy people are, who the intelligence

(02:28:32):
people are. But you know, history tells us it's very
seldom that we're actually going to get that information. So
it's it's sort of a dangerous game right now. That's
that's being played at the you know what I mean.
It kind of reminds me pat of like like that
level of argumentation, commentary, racialists, sort of you know lean

(02:28:56):
that we're seeing kind of banter, you know, badminton around here.
It reminds me of the alt right days in the
alternative media, in the independent media. You know, people are
just getting to a fervor where it's like they get
so punchy fighty and then they start getting punchy fighty
amongst themselves and all of a sudden, everybody's pointing the finger.

(02:29:17):
Everybody's a fad boy. Everybody's married to a Jewish person.
Everybody met their their wife and Israel, which, by the way,
Bear shout out to Bear in our chat. Asked Groc,
where did Charlie Kirk meet Erica? And Groc says, do
your own confirmations on this. But Groc says, according to
public accounts, Charlie Kirk first met his wife, Erica during

(02:29:39):
a trip to Israel and twenty twelve organized by Christians
for United Israel.

Speaker 1 (02:29:43):
They missed, guys, guys, I mean, look at Jared Kushner
and the capture of the Trump family by marrying Ivanka
his daughter there and you know Hillary Clinton, same Chelsea Clinton,
Martin Levinsky. So both Kushner and Levinsky's dads are convicted felons,

(02:30:06):
Jewish gangsters, big Zionist donors, and they're both married. So
the twenty sixteen election Israel, both of the daughters are
married to big Netanyahu allies. You see how that and
both converted to Judaism. I think I think Chelsea did.
I'm not sure, but Ivanka definitely did. But Kushner, Jared,

(02:30:30):
the son in law is basically the president in law
for all intents and purposes. When it comes to foreign policy.
But listen, we have all these you know, questions ourselves, guys,
because you know, we're we don't know everything, but our
listeners and viewers know a lot. As this comment says,
here jokers for you. Jesus said repeatedly to build for

(02:30:52):
profit megachurches playing country music to support the American military empire.
Very authentic Christian And it's so true, isn't it. This
is what Jesus commanded. I think Ted Cruz confirmed this
as well. Jesus commanded us to build for profit megachurches

(02:31:13):
and yes, country country style rock stuff. Yeah, okay, I'm
gonna blow your minds guys, and a little history lesson
because we all need to be reminded about history, right,
it's important that we did. You see Charlie Kirk's show
is being hosted by the Daily Wire. Now it's very inspirational,

(02:31:35):
and I want to bring this up and share this
with you guys, because you probably didn't know this, basil.
As Michael Caine always said, not many people know that.
Here we go, feast your eyes on that war monitor.
His show was promised to them four thousand years ago.

Speaker 6 (02:31:56):
Yeah, I saw that. It did make me chuckle. I
must admit, so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:32:04):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (02:32:05):
Somebody superimposed that.

Speaker 12 (02:32:08):
Overweight Israeli famously film saying if I'm not going to
steal it, somebody else going to steal.

Speaker 1 (02:32:14):
It, you know, terrible, terrible, Yeah, you know. Yeah, there's
Matt Walsh and Knowles for guy's first name, Mike Knowles.
I guess I don't know Ben Shapiro, and then I
don't know who the other guy is. But anyway, the
Daily Wires kind of tanked, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (02:32:35):
Oh yeah, they're hemorrhaging right now. They are absolutely hamorrhaging.

Speaker 12 (02:32:43):
For that other so called free press organization who's been
given the one hundred and fifty million dollars sweetheart deal.

Speaker 1 (02:32:52):
Oh take free press. Yeah, so called free press. Very wise, yeah,
it's right, yes, yeah, very wise. What did she ever
do to deserve a quarter of a billion dollars? Now
she's the head of CBA. Larry Ellison's done a hostile
takeover to permanently install Barry Weiss at the top of
the mainstream media. She's a Israeli campaigner masquerading as an

(02:33:16):
independent journalist. That's right, four thousand years yep.

Speaker 8 (02:33:23):
What did Barry Weis do.

Speaker 14 (02:33:24):
We would love to tell you, Patrick, but we're still
waiting for the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (02:33:28):
Yeah, I don't know, not much. So there we are, Yes, folks.
I know it's shocking, and I know you probably don't
know these historical facts that we're sharing with you, but
that's why we're here.

Speaker 6 (02:33:42):
And of course David Larry Ellison has also bought TikTok,
isn't he?

Speaker 1 (02:33:48):
So Yeah, And a lot of people are noticing, Basil
that there's a new content moderation. A former IDEAF intelligence officer,
a female who's a rabid desion has probably worked for
the ADL or some of these organizations before, is in
charge of content moderation. Now, is that what it's all about? Very,

(02:34:09):
You're going to retroactively apply strikes to previous content, right,
We'll wait and see, you know. That's what they've announced.

Speaker 12 (02:34:20):
I mean, they've been aware for well over a year
eighteen months now that they're losing the information war, particularly
with young people. That and that this was particularly serious,
every bit as importance to Israel as the extermination of Palestinians.
So they've got to be able to exterminate as many

(02:34:43):
Palestinians as possible. But b make sure that young people
are fully propagandized to make this acceptable somehow and at
least eliminate. You know, Israel's always liked operating in the dark.
That's why they murdered all the journalists in Gaza. Won't

(02:35:03):
let any others in. And it continues to the extent
that the atrocities in Gaza get pushed off the front page,
even of supposedly liberal outlets like The Guardian, at every opportunity,
you know, any time there's anything at all Trump's visit,
the Boris files that came out a couple of weeks ago,

(02:35:25):
any excuse to downplay, to push it off the front
page they will take.

Speaker 6 (02:35:30):
Even though you know, we've heard for decades.

Speaker 12 (02:35:34):
About the events in the Second World War, and what
would you do if you'd been around, And you know,
how come nobody knew they're.

Speaker 6 (02:35:44):
Doing it again.

Speaker 1 (02:35:48):
Trump went to Windsor Castle, Basil. I want to get
your comments on the state visit and also on this
which I thought to be very sporting.

Speaker 6 (02:35:57):
I was very funny.

Speaker 1 (02:35:58):
They projected a picture of Jeff and Donald Trump on
Windsor Castle that's led by donkeys. Very good stunt, and
four were arrested we're calling that President Epstein there pictured
with Donald Trump projected on this side of Windsor Castle.
The British are calling the unauthorized activity. So there we are.

Speaker 12 (02:36:19):
I think both people were arrested under the Malicious Communications Act.
Extremely Their spokesman pointed out that they've done loads of
these projections over the last couple of years and usually
have a.

Speaker 6 (02:36:31):
Laugh and a joke about it with the police.

Speaker 12 (02:36:33):
This is the first time anybody has ever been arrested,
they put that up. There was also that famous footage
of Trump and Epstein joking around on their way into
a party. Some other pictures of Donald Trump with young girls.
Also famous picture of Jeff Epstein and Prince Andrew, Duke

(02:36:56):
of York taking a walk in Central Park that was
projected onto Windsor Castle as well, caused much hilarity in
these quarters anyway, So I mean it was the night
before Trump actually arrived in Windsor, but nevertheless hilarious and
humiliating at the same time. As for the visit itself, well,

(02:37:18):
it took place entirely within the within the walls of
Windsor Castle. Apart from Trump's trip to Checkers the following
day for his pointless photo op with Starmer. There was
a ride in It was a real sort of disneyfied
version of British peasantry, with the horse guards and various

(02:37:41):
other guards regiments parading in front of.

Speaker 6 (02:37:46):
Trump Millenia.

Speaker 12 (02:37:49):
And the King and Queen, who was standing in some
sort of gazebo erected within the grounds of Windsor Castle.
Looked ridiculously anachronistic as an event, I must admit. And
then later Trump got his gilded carriage ride, but again

(02:38:10):
only round did go anywhere, just round the Windsor Castle.

Speaker 6 (02:38:14):
L like one of those you know, little.

Speaker 12 (02:38:18):
Rides for five year olds that you see outside convenience stores, which.

Speaker 6 (02:38:24):
Don't go anywhere at all, just bounce up and down
on the spot.

Speaker 7 (02:38:28):
That was.

Speaker 6 (02:38:30):
About the size of it.

Speaker 9 (02:38:31):
It was.

Speaker 6 (02:38:33):
Abysmal. And then of course in the evening.

Speaker 12 (02:38:37):
This huge state banquet cost fifteen pounds apparently, and Trump
read what I saw described as the worst speech ever
delivered by an American president in history. Stood there with
a full scap page of a four and read off

(02:38:58):
these pre prepared statements, and then Charles replied with the
dullest of dull speeches. I mean, all the oligarchs were there,
your Sam Altman's, your Black Rock ceo.

Speaker 6 (02:39:11):
The you know, the.

Speaker 12 (02:39:15):
Intermarriage between senior government officials and these globalist corporate oligarchs
is near complete. It used to be the case that
winter Castle would have been filled with aristocrats, with assorted dukes,
earls and marquesses.

Speaker 6 (02:39:33):
But the oligarchs are the new aristocrats. And of course the.

Speaker 12 (02:39:39):
Choreography of the table, who sits next to who, and
the order of precedence and importance as you go out
from the sort of key players at the minister of table.

Speaker 6 (02:39:50):
The whole thing's highly choreographed, you know.

Speaker 12 (02:39:52):
But there's also something really repulsive about it, because it's
only just under a third of children in Britain live
in poverty. We saw a graph in the weeks showing
that the wealthiest one percent in the United States now
owned more wealth than the entire middle class combined, and
that wasn't the case ten or fifteen years ago. Likewise,

(02:40:15):
income inequality in the UK is more skewed than ever before.
But if you talk about a wealth tax, you're derided
as a socialist, somebody with no understanding of economics, and that,
you know, all the billionaires will simply go abroad if
you int yourself. In other words, it's the sort of
shut down the conversation. We just have to put up
with Georgian levels of wealth in equipalate quality. I mean,

(02:40:37):
that's where we are. We're in this sort of new
techno feudalism, aren't we for barons and serfs? So and
that was on show in Windsow. It really was, and
I think a lot of people found it repulsive. The
reason why the whole thing took place behind closed doors,
of course, was because if Trump adventured out in publicly

(02:40:58):
would have met with huge, noisy protests. There were protests
in Whitehall against him. You know, some of the things
said about him perhaps unjustified, but the majority true. And
it is extraordinary the way, you know, two years ago
he was dead and buried as a political figure. A

(02:41:20):
combination of charges and also just the sort of sheer
buffoonery of his personalities seemed to indicate that, you know,
there was no way he was going to stage a
political comeback. Not only has he made a comeback, but
the chattering classes in the media seemed to have, you know,

(02:41:42):
completely forgotten about all that and not bothered about him.
You know, his misdemeanors, or his personality defects or intellectual vapidity.
He's sort of being represented as a hind credible actor
on the world stage. Well, I was willing to give

(02:42:03):
him the benefit of the doubt back in November when
he talked about ending the war in Ukraine within twenty
four hours.

Speaker 6 (02:42:10):
Of being elected and bringing about peace in the at least.

Speaker 12 (02:42:15):
But here we are, nine months into his second term
and no sign to the end of the war in
the Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (02:42:22):
I'll talk, I'll talk, no action, A brief truth in.

Speaker 12 (02:42:26):
The Middle East, but now the slaughter continuing more than ever,
doubling down.

Speaker 1 (02:42:33):
There was never a truce, there was never a truth
in the Middle East. It was all It was all
fake theater cover just these people before. Oh no, we're running,
we're running short on time. So I just want to
move along here. Paco Raban says, I can say that
from New York to Vermont, where you can see a
quote church on every corner. Now they are all disappearing,

(02:42:55):
and the ones that still functioning struggle financially. So they're
talking about the rule America, the disappearance of churches. But
there's a lot of other megachurches opening up now, and
the Holy business, as Basil always said, is the best
business in town. Which we should have our own church.
I mean, really we should, but I digress. So the

(02:43:17):
reason our live stream numbers are down because we're competing
against Charlie Kirk's funeral. So Alex Jones is also covering this.
He's got twenty seven thousand on x live streaming. Reuters
is covering a thirty thousand on Reuters live stream watching
Charlie Kirk. Benny Johnson, who's a sort of maga sort
of bot. Not the most interesting podcaster, but anyway, Yeah,

(02:43:44):
that's low level stuff. Fifty seven thousand live streaming Charlie Kirk.
Mario Nefal not to be left out of the party.
He's got seventy five thousand of his bots live streaming
and watching Charlie Kirk's funeral. And of course Charlie Kirk
himself is account one hundred and nineteen thousand on the
live stream watching the funeral processions in Arizona. So that

(02:44:06):
is over, you know, one point five million accounts that
I follow in terms of viewers watching that funeral. But
we still manage to have three thousand on the live
stream for the Sunday wires. So that's not too bad. So,
but that's why the numbers are a little down. We're
competing against this major Pope religious event, Pope level a

(02:44:29):
religious event. Does it deserve it? That's another question. Last question,
and this is first for Hesher and then for Ruckus.
Branding Antifa a terrorist organization, this is what the White
House are attempting to do. I think this is basically
they've been emboldened by the British government labeling Palestine Action terrorists.

(02:44:50):
I don't like Antifa, I never have. I think it's
just full of Feds. But I it doesn't actually have
an organizational structure, so I can't see how you can
call it because it's going to make it so easy
to label anything Antifa, hence anything terrorist. I think this
is a slippery slope and a big problem. I say
address the FED problem first, clear that up, and then

(02:45:14):
we can have a debate about what these groups are
and aren't. Kasher your thoughts on this development.

Speaker 13 (02:45:19):
Yeah, Like, is there a good definition for any domestic
terror organization? I've never seen a good definition for that.
All the examples that they give us that they try
to give us as you said, have a high fed
presence inside of them, around them, monitoring them, sometimes shaping them,

(02:45:44):
that kind of thing. So no, it's it's ridiculous, you know.
And I hate Jimmy Kimmel. I have no problem with
him getting canceled for sucking at his job. But this
whole idea of like canceling people for saying something wrong
or repeating something that you know was written in WAPO
that wasn't right. Like, I don't support any of this.

(02:46:05):
This is all ridiculous. We have laws against those things.
You know, we wouldn't have a problem with Antifa mindsets
or organizations whatever that you know, gray area is, we
wouldn't have a problem with that if laws were enforced
while they were most active between twenty sixteen and twenty

(02:46:27):
twenty one. You know, if those people had been properly
treated by law enforcement and disallowed from occupying cities and
disallowed from burning federal buildings, and disallowed from assaulting people,
and you know, arrested and adjudicated on normal charges that

(02:46:48):
we have here in the United States, like I don't know, assault, arson,
those kind of things, murder, whatever, sabotage, then you know
that behavior would have died down, but that's not what
happened because it is a fed sort of organized and
run or stage crafted or manipulated group. So yeah, I

(02:47:13):
think it's ridiculous. I think it's a slippery slope. I
think it's something that conservatives should really take a step
back and look backward in the rearview mirror and ask yourselves,
what do you think about the Patriot Act? Are you
cool with the Patriot Act? Because what do you think
about all the things in the various NDAAs that have
passed over the years. By the way, we had a
new one pass while this was all going on, and

(02:47:35):
hardly anybody talked about it other than the fact that
there was six hundred and fifty million dollars going to
Israel in it. That seemed to be the one thing
that piqued some people's attention. So yeah, this whole designating
groups as a domestic terrorists, it's unnecessary, there's no need
for it. It's oblique legally, and it's it's ridiculous, and

(02:47:57):
it's unconstitutional and completely unnecessary. So Nope, don't support it.
Stupid idea. Anyone that's screaming for it, you do not
have a clear view of the rear view mirror, and
you do not have the ability to read the tea
leaves for what's going to come if we normalize this
kind of policy making, and.

Speaker 1 (02:48:16):
You better get familiar with your date and daily shooter
signs and symptoms of the daily shooter complex. I agree
on the Jimmy Kimmel thing. What he said is not sackable,
But the fact that you're allowing the government at least
to be perceived, I mean, it could be some kind
of an elaborate sy op to turn Jimmy Kimmel into

(02:48:38):
a free speech hero, imagine, and then you know, help
the Democrats and to change the pendulum for the midterms.
That's certainly in the works politically, I'm sure. But yeah,
we'll definitely get a podcast. He will definitely start podcasting.

Speaker 13 (02:48:54):
You just wait. It might happen tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:48:56):
He'll probably I mean him and Colbert could team up
with the other guy that lost his show. I forgot
who the other. There's like three of them and they
could do some megas show and it'll probably be a
big hit. And you know, it's like this is just
the way it goes. It's all about leveraging all these
things to create audience interest, and there's certainly a there

(02:49:17):
is certainly a WWF or World Wrestling style element to
because it is entertainment after all. I can't stand Jimmy Kimme.
I don't think he's funny, but you know, I to
be calling for the cancelation of people off TV shows
and stuff because of something they said that wasn't even
very offensive is kind of ridiculous. So the fact that

(02:49:40):
conserve so called conservatives are doing a victory lap like
this was some kind of great achievement is pretty sad,
and it's indicative of like where people are at, you know, politically,
intellectually right now, and the right doesn't look very good
at the moment. We're calling it the woke right. So
they've arrived. They're here. Look out for the woke right, folks.

(02:50:01):
They're now visible for everybody who was confused. Now, this
is what we've been talking about for the last two years. Ruckus,
your thoughts on the Antifa situation, the Kimmel sacking before
we wrap it up, go ahead, Ruckus.

Speaker 8 (02:50:15):
Woke rhymes with joke and yes, elkapoco elvis.

Speaker 1 (02:50:19):
I do talk.

Speaker 14 (02:50:19):
Some people say too much, but yeah, sometimes not all
the time. On a program like Sunday Wire, because there's
plenty of other fine folks who are intelligent and saying
all the things that I would be saying otherwise, Like Hesher,
he said all the things I was going to say.
So just all I can add to this is the
fact is that Trump has said stated that he wants

(02:50:41):
to label Antifa as a major terrorist organization those three
words in that order specifically. I don't know exactly what
that means, but I'm guessing it's probably ultimately not good,
especially if you happen to be aligned with Antifa and
you are vacationing out on a out outside of the
borders of America, because most of the time, when you're

(02:51:03):
considered a major terrorist organization from the administration of the
United States and you're again for now outside the borders
of the United States, that means they're going to send
a drone to you and kill you with it.

Speaker 8 (02:51:16):
Just ask Obama.

Speaker 14 (02:51:18):
Anyways, Yes, this is beyond a slippery slope, and I
don't like where this is headed. I think that people
just don't get it because they're in it right now.
They feel some sort of they're doing a victory lap,
like haha. It feels good to get back at the enemy.
But no, but by doing the same thing that the
supposed enemy was doing, you guys are stupid. I'm going

(02:51:39):
to show everybody what this looks like. I hope it
goes viral on Twitter. But I'm going to take all
of these headlines, all of these tweets from the current
president and the current administration about these things where they're
using these vague defined things like labeling. For instance, the
tweet from the president about labeling them as a major
terrorist organization. I'm going to take that post. I'm going

(02:52:00):
to change his name and his picture to the future president,
who happens to be from the other side, which is left,
take the exact same post and replace the word antifa
with MAGA. And I'm just gonna start doing that with everything.
And I don't know who should be president in my
fictional future. I was thinking of going with Gavin Newsom,
and I thought, hey, it might be better. Maybe they'll
get the message here with somebody like Michelle Obama, and

(02:52:23):
then maybe their vice president could be Gavin Newsom or
and Chuck Schumer. He could be like I don't know,
we got to have like this whole fictional scenario. So like,
whoever's the press secretary right now, whoever you guys think
should be the press secretary in my fictional setting, just
let me know and I'll do that.

Speaker 8 (02:52:40):
I'm gonna do a whole series like this and just
do it. Hit it hard, so let me know.

Speaker 1 (02:52:44):
Yeah, Yes, I mean if someone mentioned the Proud Boys
in the comments, I haven't heard that name in a while. There.
I like this comment. That's a good one to I
don't like that the name is weird miskip been my
immune system killed my pancreas. I really feel bad for
you if that's the case, because that is serious. But
there are zero worthy enemies. That is quite a noble

(02:53:07):
and profound statement. There are zero worthy enemies. I kind
of know what they're talking about there. I don't know
if you guys get the vibe on that, but I
kind of know where you're coming from there, mister miss
k MP. So, yes, that's one to think about to
think about. In the gaslighting never stops, you bet, it

(02:53:29):
never stops. It never never ends. And we're here to
put out those gaslights with the exting the fire extinguisher
of truth. Final thoughts, We're gonna wrap it up, head
to the exit doors here, gentlemen, it's been a very
interesting conversation, very weird, very weird week to follow up

(02:53:49):
on a very wild and wacky week before that, and
a very twisted and distorted week before that. Basil Valentine,
your final thoughts before we go.

Speaker 12 (02:54:01):
It's going to be an interesting week coming up because
just today, of course, Kis Starmer announced that Britain formally
recognizes a Palestinian state. One of the truly worst people
in Britain, Melanie Phillips, a real sort of venom spitting
Israel supporter. She asks on X where is this Palestinian state?

(02:54:23):
Starma can't say, where are its borders? He can't say
does it include all the West Bank, etc. Well she's
right about that, because where exactly is it?

Speaker 6 (02:54:34):
She talks about borders. Where are Israel's borders?

Speaker 1 (02:54:36):
Of course, yes, but.

Speaker 12 (02:54:40):
While we're witnessing the evisceration of Gaza and more land
being stolen in the West Bank. It's a purely performative
symbolic act. I mean, that's the way the Guardian described it,
and they're absolutely right. Is any action going to follow it? Well,
it's getting a bit late in the day. For that,
you know what sort of action. You know, israelis keep

(02:55:04):
going on about how they will never be a Palestinian state. Well,
if Britain, Canada, France, these other major players, effectively the
whole world with the exception of the United States, want
to see this happen, then they've got to start taking
some serious diplomatic and economic sanctions on Israel to force them,
because they're not going to do it voluntarily. Others, of course,

(02:55:27):
like myself, increasing numbers of people in Britain say well,
hang on a moment. Israel has, according to the latest
academic estimates, slaughtered six hundred and eighty thousand Palestinians, including
three hundred and fifty thousand under fives.

Speaker 6 (02:55:43):
How can.

Speaker 12 (02:55:45):
A regime that perpetrates genocide on that sort of scale
be allowed to continue. People talk about demilitarized ha Mass
what about demilitarized Israel. As far as I'm concerned that,
you know, the fingers are being pointed at precise I
state the wrong people. There can be no two state solution.
Who talked about the Nazi regime being able to continue

(02:56:07):
after the end of the Second World War, So why
should the genocideas of Tel Aviv be any different.

Speaker 1 (02:56:14):
That's right. No state or regime can survive after they're
normally dismantled after such war crimes, and I think Israel
shouldn't be any different. Julia Hartley Brewer, who goes on
these paid junket trips to Israel, Shame on you, Kir Starmer.
She works for Rupert Murdoch. Shame on you, Cure Starmer.

(02:56:34):
You have brought shame to our country and rewarded Hamas
for the October seventh masacular. So again it's on the
Israeli has bar our talking points October seventh Hamas dad As,
if we haven't seen this total annihilation in front of
our eyes constantly a desios.

Speaker 12 (02:56:53):
Absolutely jumping up and down about it. They really are
so for all that it is purely sort of simba. Nevertheless,
the fact that it's irritated Israel and its supporter is
a small step in the right direction. But I mean,
my god, sixty seventy years late by the UK.

Speaker 1 (02:57:11):
Let's just hear what he says very quickly, because this
is historically well. I will tell you my caveat on
this in the moment. But here's Cure Starmer.

Speaker 16 (02:57:21):
In the face of the growing horror in the Middle East.
We are acting to keep alive the possibility of peace
and a two state solution that means a safe and
secure Israel alongside a viable Palestinian state. At the moment
we have neither Ordinary people Israeli and Palestinian deserve to

(02:57:48):
live in peace, to try to rebuild their lives free
from violence and suffering. That's what the British people desperately
want to see. Yet, almost two years after the barbaric
attacks of October, the Jets hostages are still held by

(02:58:10):
the terrorists of Harmas.

Speaker 1 (02:58:13):
No listen, and this is you, guys. This is part
of the big lie. It's going on about the hostages
held by Harmas, the terrorists. Blah blah blah. The Israelis
have ten thousand Palestinian hostages ten thousand, and this guy
and everybody like him will never mention that. They conveniently

(02:58:34):
leave that out. Then that's why the hostages were taken.
And many of those are soldiers and reservists. Okay, we're
taken because Israel and the Palestines have routinely exchanged hostages
over the years. It's seen as a method of getting
your people out and again, this is pure propaganda by

(02:58:58):
Keir Starmer, omitting the obvious part why negotiations broke down
before because Israel would not release that any of the
or anything near the ten thousand hostages that were being
requested by the other party. So this is total gaslighting.
I'll let him finish a little bit and I'm going
to cut him off.

Speaker 16 (02:59:17):
Recent images show the hostages suffering and emaciated. Must even
refuse to release all the bodies of the dead.

Speaker 1 (02:59:29):
It's not true.

Speaker 6 (02:59:30):
And again that's what these radises do.

Speaker 12 (02:59:32):
They don't release the bodies of dead Palestinians that they've
talked you to death in their gulags.

Speaker 1 (02:59:36):
So you know, emaciated. He's talking about emaciated.

Speaker 6 (02:59:39):
Why are they emaciated, Kia.

Speaker 1 (02:59:42):
How about thee hundred millions of Palestinians that are emaciated
because you're forced forcing a food and water and electricity
and aid blockade now for going on how long? How
many years? Now? I mean? And he's talking about hostages.
The reason they're emaciate is because Israel's blocking food. I did.
What planet are these people on? What kind of people

(03:00:06):
are what ignorance? The idiocy? What are we dealing with?

Speaker 5 (03:00:10):
Here.

Speaker 1 (03:00:10):
How can he How can a Prime minister make such
a statement and ignore the obvious.

Speaker 16 (03:00:18):
I have met British families of the hostages. I see
the that they endure each and every day, pain that
strikes deep in people's hearts. Across Israel and here in
the United Kingdom.

Speaker 1 (03:00:33):
There's a genocide, there's a holocaust happening. This guy is
completely owned and operated by the lobby. You see the
terror in his eyes, you guys, that is fear of
the lobby. What you're in his eyes. He's if he
puts a foot wrong, they will crush him like they
crush Jeremy Corbyn. That's the reality. He has a job

(03:00:55):
to do and he's going to deliver it and it
doesn't matter if it corresponds to reality. On anyway, Basle,
I didn't mean to go on that Dietroy, but you
brought up the stormer. Let me let me fit, let
me let me hold on, hold on, hold on, let
me finish that. He says, we formally recognized the Palestine state.
When we see it inked, we see it into law,

(03:01:17):
then I will we can discuss that this is all performative.
Right now, this is all performative we'll see, because if
you did, then there's no way that you could allow
by international law, British law, or any other law for
the Israelis to do what they're doing and for Britain
to be supplying them with arms to do it. Period,
end of story, full stop. What else can we say?

(03:01:41):
Why this isn't being brought up by him in this
speech is quite breathtaking, and so I just see this
as just the worst most craven political theater you can imagine. Wow, believable.
Ruckus In hasher your final thoughts before we wrap it up.

Speaker 14 (03:02:07):
I think I've said a lot this week on the matter,
and I'll be keeping a close track. I do want
to do a deep dive into the history of Turning
Point USA because there's some weird anomalies going on with
their founding and how they managed to miraculously survive during
the lockdown time as other businesses and nonprofits for suffering.
So that's interesting. Apparently ten anonymous donors saved their butts.

(03:02:31):
I'd like to do a little research into that, and
I'd also like to learn a little bit more about
one Bill Montgomery, who is the other guy who started
Turning Point USA. No one's talking about this guy and
there's very little information currently online about him, Whereas you
can learn everything you want to know about Charlie Kirk,
including what he probably had for breakfast before he was
unfortunately taken from us. So thanks for having me, Patrick.

(03:02:54):
I'm sure we'll be talking about all the new things
coming up. I'll be discussing some of this stuff on
Weaponized News alongside Sam Cheney.

Speaker 8 (03:03:02):
Of course.

Speaker 14 (03:03:02):
Go to Alternate Current Radio for the Daily Ruckus and
for boiler Room, which we usually do on Thursday nights.

Speaker 8 (03:03:08):
Hessure, we'll tell you all about that. But that's where
we'll be doing some more.

Speaker 14 (03:03:12):
Of this roundtable analysis as it happens, before we come
back together here for another Sunday wire, Lord Willing, So
thanks for having me, Patrick.

Speaker 1 (03:03:21):
Thank you and again Hesher, host of the boiler Room.
You've got programs timing this week if you give our listeners. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (03:03:32):
Absolutely, we just finished boiler Room last Thursday night. That's
up at the website Alternatecurrentradio dot com. It's also sitting
there on our rumble channel under boiler Room, our YouTube
channel under Alternate Current Radio, my ex account under at
Hesher Media. So you can find anything that you've missed

(03:03:54):
in the boiler room over there, and you can expect
us to be live on Thursday night this week, probably
around nine pm or ten pm Eastern time. And if
you follow us on, if you join our discord, you
get notifications about when things go live and when new
posts go up and all that good stuff, so we
recommend you do that as well. Yeah, that's it for me, man.

(03:04:20):
I have a lot more to say on this, but
you know, I think we've done a pretty good job today,
and at this point in the game, I don't really
think it's super helpful to get too far down in
the weeds with the video forensics and all that. It's
just an absolute quagmire right now. So I'm kind of

(03:04:42):
just hanging back and I'm noting and bookmarking all the
anomalies and strange things and you know, various takes, good takes,
bad takes, all that stuff. I'm doing my best to
categorize all that and you know, keep it at hand.
But you know, I guess the last thing I'll say is, Hmmm,
you shouldn't feel bad if you have an opinion or

(03:05:05):
a theory or whatever. You know, if people don't like it.
Tough crap, you know, uh, Because it's like Patrick said
in a video from one of his speeches that he
posted recently on his social media, the people making the
claim are the ones that have the responsibility to prove

(03:05:27):
the claim. And that is right now, all the claims
that we're hearing are essentially coming from the FBI, the
federal government, the Utah governor, and everything else. So you know,
if you think Maga did it, if you think Israel
did it, if you think Mosad did it, if you

(03:05:50):
think the FBI did it, you know what I mean,
Like whatever you think, you're totally allowed to think that.
Right now you have been put in a situation where
you have to fill in the blank where you is
a citizen of a supposed here in America at least
constitutional republic are legally being you know, legally with an
l being propagandized too. So the environment, the the the

(03:06:16):
nasty environment that we're speaking in right now, all of us.
If it's politically, if it's about Charlie Kirk, if it's
about right left politics that has been thrusted upon us,
that has been something that we didn't ask for, that's
something that we shouldn't have but it is what we have.
So you know, have at it. If you want to
have a theory about it, go for it, go for it.

(03:06:39):
Just know that, like most of us, you're only going
to be able to take it to the Aukham's razor
level and then sit right there with it. Right we're
looking at magic bullets here, We're looking at vaporizing towers here.
You know, we're looking at echoes of so many things
that we've seen before they start construction on that place.

(03:07:00):
Right away. People are pulling SD cards out of HD
cameras right away. Where's the What is the deal with
the blood? What is the deal with the projectile? You
know what I mean? It's just too much, and it's
meant to be too much, and there's meant to be
a thread that every single one of us can pull on,
an outrage thread that goes against what we think probably

(03:07:21):
happened as well as you know, a pump up thread
to you know, for your confirmation bias. So we as
a planet, as a nation, have been put in this
situation yet again, where we're being told this is the
narrative and you can't question it. No, no, no, no no.
The narrative has no proof to it, so you have

(03:07:44):
to question it, and you have to have some grace
for other people that are questioning it too, no matter
what angle they're coming from. And what would Charlie want.
He would want us to talk about it. He would
want us to allow other people to try to prove
us wrong. So I think that's where I'm going to
leave it.

Speaker 1 (03:08:02):
Yeah, that's a good, good point to leave on. I
want to thank all of you gentlemen for participating.

Speaker 6 (03:08:09):
I just put a shout out from my show tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (03:08:11):
Oh definitely go ahead, Basil.

Speaker 12 (03:08:13):
Yeah, I'm back on YouTube and X one pm UK time,
a AM in New York Monday through Thursday with a
daily news digest and more of them than not a guest.
So that's live tomorrow, Unprecedented TV on X and YouTube.
Ascending order with Basil Valentine. Is that is that on

(03:08:38):
Unprecedented TV? Yeah, but it's YouTube, So if you search
under Basil Valentine Unprecedented TV, you'll find it there.

Speaker 6 (03:08:46):
One o'clock London time.

Speaker 1 (03:08:48):
Okay, sending order with Basil Valentine.

Speaker 6 (03:08:51):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (03:08:52):
I hope you get your old X account back, Basil.

Speaker 6 (03:08:54):
That would be Yeah, that's going to happen. I'm sure.

Speaker 13 (03:08:56):
Well, they gave they gave Gavin McGinnis his ex account
the other day. I mean, uh, you know, compare some
of the things you've said with some of the things
that he said before he got removed, you know, and
he he thanked a list of like you know, s
Tier X accounts for, you know, pressuring Elon to get
him back on. So the whole thing is very weird.

Speaker 12 (03:09:16):
If I don't get an instant reaction this week, then
I will call upon support to help get me back.

Speaker 1 (03:09:23):
Well, we'll try to mobilize the big guns for you,
Alec Basil, thank you. Good luck with that, Basil, Valentine.
Brian McLain aka Hesher, Adam Clark aka Ruckus. I've tagged
Hesher Media and ac underscore word slinger on my post

(03:09:44):
on X, so that's how you can follow Hesher and Ruckus.
I don't know what your handle is on X or
your current handle is. I know your other account got
nuked for going after Netanyahu's chief propagandist, which you did valiantly,
but then you were you fell in battle there. The
Israeli cancel machine shut down Basil's main account over a

(03:10:07):
year ago, so he is a veteran of the information wars,
he should get a medal, should get you a little metal,
like like Charles and William have all these medals on
their jackets. You notice that you have the combat medals
they have. Yeah, Basil needs We're going to organize a
medal for you special, a special vun, a special vun

(03:10:30):
for you that you can on your jacket and people
point at and say, oh, Vey, where did you get that?
They will notice your metal, Basil as a free speech warrior. Yes, okay,
good luck with that, Basil. We were joking, of course,

(03:10:54):
because we're always joking, because it's absolutely crazy and insane
what's going on. There's a lot of censorship still going
on on folks. It's not a free speech platform on
AX or all these other ones. There's always cancelations going on,
a lot of pressure coming. TikTok as well, is going
under a major overhaul. Larry Ellison and the Desionist lobby

(03:11:14):
of taking seized control of TikTok. Basically crazy, absolutely crazy,
but anyway that's going on. More censorship to come, but
they're not going to be able to stem the tide
of truth and of realization and the fact that people
are waking up to what's going on. Maybe I hope
it's not too late to save a few million Palestinian lives.

(03:11:37):
Let's hope not. And maybe, who knows, maybe this move
by some of these European countries might trigger some kind
of impasse. I don't know. I'm not holding my breath guys.
To be honest, I'm very black pilled and cynical on
this issue. But anyway, we got to all everyone has
to keep the pressure on, never give up. If you

(03:11:58):
can change the public opinion just a little bit, just
a millimeter, that might be able to change the manufacturing
of consent or the ability to do that by government,
states and so forth, so all is not lost. Thank you,
gentlemen for joining us on the Sunday Wire this week.
Appreciate your hard work and your diligence in pursuing the truth.

(03:12:21):
We're trying hard. It's very difficult these days with all
the information and the confusion that's going on. So I
tip my hats. You guys are on the front line
of the propaganda wars and the gas lighting and everything else,
so I stay with it. Keep up the great work.
We'll see you soon. All the best gentlemen, and that's

(03:12:42):
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(03:13:27):
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Don't believe you lie eyes you know big Stay in bob,
no matter why. Playing with the dom stay club, turn.

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On God does and go with your toes.

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Wish it up to turn up the.

Speaker 9 (03:15:48):
Corruption man lies. Chose this some crown or turn the girl.

Speaker 17 (03:15:57):
Well designed misery to keep you own itch, make you
believe in anything an he wants.

Speaker 18 (03:16:05):
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(03:17:04):
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