August 9, 2025 • 54 mins
Join us as we review and discuss Eyes of Wakanda, the latest animated Marvel show available on Disney Plus. How does it compare to other Marvel animated shows? Does it add anything to the MCU? All this plus nerd news and so much more, enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hey, everybody, welcome to Superhero Speak. I am your host, Dave,
and I'm the guy on his phone Doc.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, technical difficulties. Even though Don is home now you
can see he is in his man cave, he's having
technical difficulties. Hopefully they would be corrected quickly.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
They will.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But yeah, it's been a week since we got together.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'll talk about that off the top of At the
top of the show. My girlfriend is getting some dental
work done and came home Friday, wasn't feeling well, wasn't
because of her mouth was hurting or what not. She
had a really bad headache. And then Saturday we didn't
get together. She says, I just wanted to rest. I'm like, okay,
So finally she's a Sunday she said, you want to
come over, and I'm like the podcast, Oh, I forgot
(01:02):
about that. And that's when I was like, hey, let's
switch to Monday and then you that's sure?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Why not sounds like a great idea. Sounds like a
great idea, And then what did you have? What happened
on Monday. Let me preface by saying the reason I
was like super into moving it in the first place
was because we came back a day early from vacation.
And the reason we did this is because while we're
on vacation, a nearby, twenty minute to the west, fifteenth
(01:30):
Best roller coaster park on eric Cedar Point is selling
season passes for the rest of this year and next
year water Park Parking you bring a guest and also
works at six Flag. So we're like, bet we're gonna
buy this because it's a good deal and we live
twenty minutes from it, and let's go back a day
early and go. So now, the original plan was to
(01:53):
take two vehicles, but then days he texted me he says, hey,
got a great idea, let's move and I'm like, hey,
that's an awesome idea. Uh here we go, so exciting
and but yes, I forgot that, Yester. No, I'm sorry.
Monday was also my wife's birthday, so Niah, it really
wasn't the best idea. So yeah, I screwed the pooch
(02:16):
on that. It's totally my fault. But all your hate
in the comments below, we love at least you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
At least you remembered before celebrating anything it thought like
it did the show and then went, oh crap, it
was my wife's birthday.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That would have been really bad. So yeah, I just
believe in my excitement for Tuesday for the situation that
I just neglected at that point.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But here we are paying Yeah, we're already off. We're
already off our normal schedule. So for the show, I
forgot to say at the top of the show, we're
going to talk obviously Wakanda for not Wakinda Forever, Eyes
of Wakanda, the mini series that came out last week,
which was what we were going to talk about on Sunday.
And there's a little bit of news Marvel news for
(02:59):
Spider Man and rumors about the upcoming movie and what
was the other article that I had here? Oh, and
then there is this was exciting Punisher. There's some Punisher news.
We'll talk about that as well. So yeah, but with
all of that, how was your week? It's been a week.
What was your wife's birthday? Did you do anything fun
for it? Anything exciting happened in this past week to you?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, that was about it. As far as going to
Cedar Point, which I mean was cool because my youngest
is over that fifty four inch mark, which okay, you
can ride anything that you want, And I did not
expect her to like be completely and utterly fearless, but
that's that's what happened. I don't know, it was fun time,
(03:45):
but yeah, no, really nothing exciting. What did just appear
for me?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Funny you're reminding me of, Oh you're left so you
could come back. You're reminded me when when my daughter
was young and we took her to Hershey. I'm going
to tell this story. Hopefully he comes back. All right, Okay,
so my daughter was young, we took her to Hershey Park,
which is the big park not far.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
From where I live in Hershey, PA, and of course
it is the Hershey yea.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And it was one of these she wanted to go
on this roller coaster. No like you just said, no fear.
She was really excited to do it. And they have
that little stick to them to make sure you're the
right height before you get on the ride. And she
was tall enough. The problem is she was wearing these
sandals that the souls were like this thick, so it's
giving her another inch and a half, so she technically
(04:36):
wasn't tall enough. And her mother freaked out afterwards, but
she loved it. She kept saying, oh, let's go on again,
Let's go on again.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I keep waiting for the days that they take my
granddaughters to an amusement park and they do that to
her half.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I will make sure I buy the twins thick
souled sandals before they go.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So she far.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But let's see what have I been up to. I
actually went and sold a musical on Thursday last week.
Beetlejuiced the musical and had run here in Philadelphia. We
had bought the tickets in like February and completely forgot
we bought them and her it was her son who
wanted to get my girlfriend son who wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Showtime exactly it was.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And it's funny because we knew it was coming up.
We knew it was in July, but we couldn't remember
what day, and we thought it was a weekend, and
here it was a Thursday. And we went to a
place called Budd and Bud and Maryland's in downtown.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh my god, it was so good, like unbelievably good.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I had this.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I got meat loaf, which is oh meatloft, but it
was called French onion meat loof, so it was like
French onion soup, meats, meat loaf, and it was so good.
Her son got a carne asada steak. It was mixed
with these vegetables and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And it was marinate. It was cooked perfectly.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And the girlfriend got fried chicken, which I was shocked
because there was a little more pedestrian than some of
the other things on the menu, but that was also
really good.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, it was an amazing meal. As for the play,
it wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But it's based on the first movie, but they changed
the story around and I get it. You can't do
the same exact thing a lot of times. I focus
is way more on beetlejuice in the musical.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But it was good. We had a good time. Just
I prefer the movie. Ok. Yeah, and funny you talk
about musicals though. I just had an interesting conversation with
my wife. Of course, we saw the new Wicked. If
you've been to either Superman or Fantastic Four, you've seen
the next Wicked movie. And I was talking with my
wife about it, and my daughter was telling her about it.
(06:42):
But either way, it led us into a conversation about
Cynthia or Revo being storm and it was just my
wife was like, but there's no singing in X Men
or Marvel, so she can't. And I'm like, but don't
you think she's a great actor? And she's yeah, she's awesome,
and I'm like, then why would they do it? I'm like,
I also have to explain to her the all the
(07:02):
way Storm talks. I'm like, they could incorporate her into
it a little bit, but I don't know. I was
an interesting conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, and she's been in other things as well, and
she doesn't always sing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
She just was in a musical I had to sing
before it, just.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Like saying, you Jackman can't be uh Wolverine anymore because
he was in The Music Man on Broadway and then
The Greatest Showman, the movie where You and Leme is
a raw he sings now, so no longer.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't. Yeah, my wife is just a major fan
of her singing. I mean, listens to the Wicked soundtrack
in the car, So I guess to her, I don't
know she sing sing. I don't know. She's just a
big fan of her singing. Yeah, she's telling it. Let's
see what else.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh, I got a good day because started off with
uh so not to bog down in details about how
my work goes, but like we do what are called iterations,
are two weeks worth of work, and then tried to
release something.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
At the end of the two weeks. Arriva was busy
being Jesus.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes, she was in I think it's a Jesus Christ
Superstar production somewhere. But so I was trying to get
this work done because I thought they were releasing it
next week. And we had a meeting today and it's Okay,
here's what we're releasing on Tuesday, which is the stuff
they already have done, And like I was like, I
like actually had a sigh of relief because I was like, Oh,
(08:26):
I thought this other stuff that I'm currently working on
special to be released on Tuesday. They're like, no, that's
not until the twenty sixth. I'm like, like it was
one of those things where it's been keeping me up
at night because I'm like, I don't think I'm going
to get this stuff done, and I'm so.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Nervous about it. Isn't that the case?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Man?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, look good for you. How much slews over dumb
shit that lands exactly no one cares?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And then today and I'm not going to say the
actual numbers, but today I was I don't know why.
I pulled out an old pair of jeans of mine
that I haven't worn in a long time. And those
who know how men's sizes run to run by your
waist size and your height for pants, and it's every
two inches. And the pair of pants I grabbed are
(09:10):
two sizes, so four inches smaller than the ones I've
been wearing. I was thinking, these are gonna fit, but
let me see how tight they are. I'm wearing them
right now.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like they fit. I'm like, wow, I lost more weight
than I thought I did, so nice, I can breathe,
so yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes I'm not turning blue. So yeah, that made me
just feel good all day long. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's good, that's good.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know I have an old vegeta vegeta silk button
suret used to be all over back in two thousands.
Hey yeah, I'm proud I can fit it. Boy of
those buttons, I mean they were made from titanium. Apparently
back then they're all holding on.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But hey, yeah, I've had quite a few shirts, like
I got of a Spider Man one that's a button down,
and I have an Hawaiian shirt that's actually a Star
Wars Hawaiian shirt because my family normally does every year
a luaus, a big family get together, and a lot
of times people wear Hawaiian shirts, and my cousin who
hosts this party is a huge Star Wars fan. So
(10:11):
I got that one year, and I've worn it a
couple of times. But I got it when I was thinner,
and a couple of times I've tried that button and
I'm like, no, make gonna happen. But I haven't tried
it since since I've watched the Wait, maybe I should
try it again. So yeah, so that's been my week.
Of course, we both watched some TV. We'll be talking
about that shortly and among other things and so on
(10:32):
that note. Before we get into all that, let's go
to the dark side and I have our good friend Darth.
Don tell you how you go find more superhero Speak
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Speaker 1 (12:12):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh, I also forgot to say at the top of
the show that I'm almost done setting up our new
Tea Spring store, not Tea Spring Tea Public Store, so
hopefully starting Sunday we will switch over to Tea Public. Officially,
I won't be using Spring anymore, and that'll be in
the description of next week's or Sunday's episode, so we'll see.
Thron says he's called a bre Larsen worm, the largest
(12:35):
pre Larsen worm anyone's ever seen. So the Internet was
a buzz the last few days there, don because there's
been a lot of stuff coming out about the Spider
Man movie. And it was funny because originally I thought
we were just gonna be talking about There was a
teaser release him so just showing like the costume really quick,
and I thought, oh, we'll just be talking about that,
(12:57):
but then no, Tom Holland put on his Instagram a
video of him walking out looks like he's in a
hangar or something and the doors open and he walks. Yeah,
and in the new costume, so it's official.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It doesn't. I'm sure you've seen it at this point.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It doesn't look any different than doesn't look much different
than what we saw at the end of No Way Home.
But someone pointed this out, and I'm like, oh, that's true.
The one at No Way Home is cgi. This is
a practical costume that he's actually wearing. Oh, that is
a big difference on Yeah, so yeah, they made the costume.
It's if you look at it, the spider looks more
like Toby Maguire's Spider from from his movies. The back
(13:35):
of the costume kind of looks like I think it
looks Andrew Garfield.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
More accurate in generalty. I think it's just a brighter
blue and the larger spider symbol in the front. I
just think it hearkens, I guess more back to the
actual Spider Man costume that comic fans think of.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So the funny thing about the actual costume that most
people don't realize, and this is also the same issue
with Spider Man and Batman. The costume was supposed to
be black and red. Really, but when you are coloring
a comic and you want to highlight black, you use blue.
So in people's minds it becomes, oh, it's blue and
red and the blackest shadow. No, it's actually the opposite.
(14:15):
It was supposed to be black and red and the
blue with highlights. After a while it's now it's just
blue and red and leave it. Like that same thing
with Batman. He was supposed to be black and gray,
and then you know he's the highlights highlighting it with blue,
and then that's how we got Batman's blue cow.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, but he's done a lot better in transitioning back
to the original idea though. I think now the black
and gray is synonymous, more synonymous with his suit than
the blue and gray. Yeah. That was funny though, because
like in was it no Way Home? Or was it
Far from Home? Which is the one where you made
Spider Man movies? I'm sorry bleed together for me, I
(14:51):
guess as a not Spider Man enthusiast.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Oh, it was just No Way Home where Happy shows
up in the quinjet is helping him out, and he
used this is the synthesizing stuff on the thing to
make a costume, and he makes basically the black and
red costume. And I can't remember. Someone said to me
at that time, it's, oh, they're trying to be edgy
with the blacker rend. I'm like, no, they're actually trying
to be more accurate to the original idea of the
(15:15):
costume that I kind of think of his name that
the original artist on Spider Man. I'm sure there's people
yelling at their computers far from home. Oh okay, it
was far from home. Okay, thron But anyway, but yeah,
they were trying to be more true to the original colors.
And I think it was actually one of my girlfriend's
sons that said it. I'm like, no, it was to
be black and red originally, dick go, thank you, thron Si.
(15:38):
I knew that there was a nerd watching who was going.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
To be like yelling Steve DICKO. Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But anyway, and then the only thing I thought looked
weird on it. And I don't know what you think.
They have this thing where now they gotta have the
webshooters on the outside and there's these like silver squares
on his wrist where the web shooters are. I know,
what did you think? A lot of people are saying
that they look cheap.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, I tend to agree. I understand people want to
make sure that he has web shooters and it's not
some like freaking mutation that Toby maguire Spider Man got,
So I get that. But even with that, it was
never like a pronounced thing. It's just you know, he
has it. It's the old happened. So yeah, I don't
get people. I don't like it. I like having the
(16:22):
web shooters and I don't care if there was a
little something there. But yeah, them thinking that they need
these like chunky clunky certainly always visible web shooters, I'm
not about I don't hate it. It's not gonna bite
told you asked question. That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, No, it just but I will say that someone
did point out online and I can't disagree with this point.
Tony Start didn't pay for this. He made this himself
at this point. Yeah, and he's back to scrounging for
parts out of the trash. Remember we get introduced him.
He had stole a cable box out of the trash,
so yeah, for parts. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's actually sac Oh sure, yeah, yeah, so I think
in that sense.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, it's not gonna look what's the word high techy
like something, Yeah, it's gonna look. Jenky Thron says they
look like toy ones that shoot silly string as web,
which is probably a marketing ploy to make toy ones
that shoot silly string for the kiddies.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Which you know what, I'm totally about, because that's the
way you are gonna make money with these movies through
that stuff. Yeah, kids, toys or whatever that happens. Oh yeah,
that's how they make most of their money. So Superman
was wildly successful and great and wonderful and still only
did half a billion you know, yeah, oh it'd be
(17:40):
Fantastic four, which was a great MCU movie, But Fantastic
four can't hold a hand candle to what Superman did. Like,
their second weekend drop off was way worse. And that's
what Superman. Like, Superman's gonna be in streaming in three
or four weeks, I think, or something crazy like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
So as of this stream according to box office Mojo, worldwide,
Superman has made five hundred and fifty nine million, five
hundred and fifty nine point three million dollars. So that's
not bid because again I think the original estimates they
were saying it had to make between five and seven
hundred million to be profitable. So I don't think they're
gonna turn around and say, Okay, we're done with this
(18:15):
now Fantastic four. I did see something where they were
saying it needed to make three hundred and seventy million
dollars to be profitable, like anything above three hundred and
seventy million would be profit. As of this stream, it's
made three hundred and seventy eight point three million dollars worldwide,
so it's profitable. But yet I wanted to talk about
that because I keep seeing a lot of articles, not
(18:37):
from mainstream now mind you.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Nerd stits like ours saying, oh, the movie's a failure.
It's blah blah blah. Some of them are going, oh,
it's woke, so that's why it failed, which again I
don't feel like the movie was woke.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't know where that's coming from. The hack criticism
at this point in time. Yeah, and it's just have
anything to say if you say that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Agree, and most of the people who say that didn't
actually see the movie. But it brings up an interesting
point you sent this to me, and I had already
seen it because I'm friends with mister Leifeld on the
on the internets, on the facebooks, and he is on
a anti Marvel rant lately. And he's at the he
(19:19):
went to the theater and Imax showing of Fantastic and
the movie hasn't started or anything. He's just in a
theater sitting there and he takes a picture of the theater.
Now we don't here's the thing. You don't know if
he got there twenty minutes before the movie started, and
he's just sitting in the theater and decided to take
the picture, write the reference. He just takes the picture
and posts it and goes, yeah, no, no audience on
(19:41):
the second weekend because this is because it's a boring movie.
It's just like why, like why are you attacking this
the Marvel? And like people are saying, this is all
still stemming from he didn't get invited to some after
party for Deadpool Wolverine. That's what, yeah, is he There's
got to be more to it than that. It can't
(20:03):
just be he wasn't invited to a party, So now
he hates Marvel forever.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Listen, man, this guy went off on you for no
reason whatsoever. Yeah, he's the billion dollar comic book baby
from the nineties and day probby but you're hey. But
nonetheless is he's made a lot of money and and
you're Dave, which you're great, and our fifty nine thousand
(20:27):
subscribers strong, you know all that no reason to go
after you. There's just nothing for him to gain. And
he just lit you up on Facebook, on your personal face.
It wasn't like a superhero speak Facebook page. Yeah, yeah,
Dave Mark whatever, Yeah, your personal shit. And he did that.
So this is completely consistent with his way of thinking
(20:50):
who he is. Yeah, yeah, and it is. But yes,
it's first of he's in an imax. Okay. The majority
of people I ever talked to are come across who've
seen him movie. He didn't have him do it, Max,
Like you said, it's show me that picture during the
opening weekend. Okay, and maybe you've got a point, Wait
till the second week go at some fucking Maine imax. Right,
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you're just being petty. And again, as we've described, that's
what he does. Apparently, now that's how he spends his retirement.
Since no one outside of someone that makes Gi Joe
comics wants anything to do with them.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So and it's one of those things where if the
movie had been on the screen when he took the
picture and it was empty, I'd been like, oh okay,
But it was like I think it was like like
the commercials or something. We're still playing.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
We all know, like when I buy movies that start
at eight o'clock, I know it's not maybe the previews
start at eight. There's commercial in front of it, and
then people are not stupid, but they figure that out.
They don't want to stick to that. And now there's
a sign seating, so you don't even have to get
hurtly to make sure you get the exact seats you want.
You know you're gonna get the seats you even an
(21:55):
oldie fucking put stickers on there, Vandango, they will sign
that shit now.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah no, And that's the funny thing because yeah, they're
all assigned seating now, and that's the whole thing. And
it's funny because I've had people argue, I don't like that.
It's just buy your tickets early and get and pick
your seat and you can sit wherever you want. But yeah,
movie theaters have done that where it's like, because I've
said this to many people, like it used to be
the commercials when they started showing, the commercials ended at
(22:22):
let's say it's an eight thirty showing, they ended at
eight thirty, and the previews started at eight thirty, and
then there would be twenty minutes of previews. Now it's no,
the commercials are start are still going at eight thirty,
and then there's twenty minutes of previews and then the
movie doesn't start for almost an hour sometimes half hour
to an hour after it's supposed to start. So it's
so people have learned that at this point. And again,
(22:44):
if you have a signed seating you can come a
half hour later, you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Get your seats.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, it was weird. It was very petty. It's one
of those burning your bridges thing too. Write So if
they do a Deadpool and Wolverine too, they're not going
to ask them to be involved because because he's doing
this stuff and like Marvel will be like, nah, we
don't need you for this project.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yes, clearly, clearly he's bitter about his lack of influence
of the Deadpool character in the comics, and particularly in
the movies that have been while successful. In fact, his
character Ryan Reynolds is now more responsible for the success
of that character than Rob Leifeld. And so I could
(23:26):
see again us knowing personally the type of person he is.
He yeah, I could see that just eating up at him.
The only point to be made here, because this isn't
a oh look how good DC is and how shitty
Marvel is, which is what he's trying. That's the point
he's trying to make. No man, the whole thing right now,
is we what we've just seen, which is of no
(23:47):
news to anybody that's into comics, is that Superman is
more popular than Fantastic Four. And I'm mister Obvia hello.
Fantastic four is good, but it's not Superman, and it
was They're most officially the better quality, but still care
about this fucking character a lot a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Do you get the three most popular characters in comics
are Superman, Batman and Spider Man like hands down, and
Wolverine's a close forth.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Okay, then, but that's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Not only is it Superman a lot of people's favorite character,
it's also everyone wanted to see what's James gunn gonna
do with the character. What's the new DC you gonna
be like, it's a whole there's a whole lot more
mixed in with Superman than there was a Fantastic Four
because it's it's a continuation of the MCU. It's taking
place in a different multiverse. But it's which I think
(24:39):
made the movie better because you didn't need to watch
twenty other movies to watch Fantastic for you could just
go watch it. But yeah, it's the Fantastic Four. It's
been done a bunch of times and has never really
hit home. This probably is the best version of the characters.
But still that's a that's that all right. Speaking of Marvel,
and we were talking about, of course Spider Man. It
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is rumored and it's been some of the things that
have been spotted on set have fueled this rumor a
little bit more that Daniel Daykim.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Who was in Lost in Hawaii five, Oh a lot
of people know who he.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Is rumored to be playing Mister Negative in Brand New Day.
And he was asked us in an interview and he
didn't say if he was or wasn't doing it, but
he did say, oh, I'm so ready to play that character,
and so, yeah, like this is pretty interesting the people
who don't know he was I believe he was kidnapped
by silver Mad.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
This is from two thousand and four, two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It was when he was introduced in the comics, captured
by Silvermin was experimented on with this serah which gave
him his powers, and like when he can turn his
powers on and off, and when he turns them on,
his colors flip looking like a picture negative. That's why
he's Mister Negative. And he's a fairly he was a
He's a big villain in the Spider Man games and
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Spider Man two if you've played those, and so he's
fairly popular. He's not like one of the most known
because again he's a post two thousand villain and they're
not as I don't think they're as well known as
some of the other villains. But yeah, that's the rumors
that he's going to be the main villain in Brand
New Day. Do you know anything about Mister Negative? What
do you think?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Oh, I know nothing about Mr So thank you for
the synopsis there, But in saying that, it really gives
me two questions. First off, is do you really think
that this actor read the comics miter negative and I
hate when people say that, oh, I'm ready to play
that character like they were really abreast on their Lauren
history from the comics. No, you, I'm really ready to
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have that payday is But anyway, so that's my first question,
you really think he actually cares about the character? And
then second question, though, is in this fantastical multiverse extravaganza,
what kind of role is this ce tier villain gonna play.
I don't know. I don't believe. I don't understand how
that could play any part in what's happening.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's funny one of the things I would like them
to see them do. And two thousand and seven, sorry,
I wanted to check. When he was introduced in the game,
they tie him to Miles Morales. He's the one in
the game that kills Miles's father. So maybe it'd be
a fun way to bring Miles into the MCU by
doing the same elements as in the comics. They probably
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won't in the game. They probably won't, but that could
be a fun little thing to do.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Here's the thing, Miles Morales has to be one of
the sorest spots in Marvel's history, not having access to
that character during their rise of the MCU, because that's
why I don't think this is going to be. Another
reason I don't think it's going to happen is I
don't think they're going to do Miles Morales in this
MCU since Sony's got them by the balls. I think
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they're forced to do it with the Peter Parker. But
I think it's a missed opportunity that they didn't also
have Miles Morales to deal with as we're going through
the multiverse, shit, that actually makes sense for you to
put him in. Maybe and hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm
wrong and they're like, Nope, here come Mile Morales Secret Wars. Okay, sweet,
we'll see. I think it's a big sore spot.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Ah okay, wait a minute. See this is when I
wasn't reading comics. But this is an interesting So when
he was introduced, he was at the Feast Center, which
is that's that is something in the newer spider Man comics.
May works there and whatnot, and it's like a center
for poor people in the neighborhood. Eddie Brock was there
and if you remember, I don't remember they gave him
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cancer in the comics, and the symbiat was what was
keeping him alive.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, mister negative.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
One of his powers is healing touch, so he healed
Eddie Brock, so he didn't need the cymbia anymore. And
because that's other that's another rumor is like they people
are trying to say, oh, they're setting up Venom, which
I don't know if they're going to do that because
they did the Venom movies and they tried to tie
them together.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
But yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I don't think they're going to bring Venom in, not
at this point anyway, but that could be interesting. Yeah, no,
and I agree too, Like if you probably ask any actor,
almost any actor, especially he's not an up and comings
he's like our age and he's been in a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Of different things.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
But I'm pretty sure if you ask any up and
coming actor, oh, would you want to play this character,
of course they're gonna say yes. It's like a big payday,
it's a big thing.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
He's probably not a big comic book fan. He could
be gen xers. We tend to be big collectors, but
but again, we all stopped in the early two.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Reading on a regular base, so he wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Really known who mister Negative was, even if he's a
big Spider Man fan. So yeah, I agree, we'll see
what happens, but I don't think I think you're right.
This isn't going to be a thing, like he's not
gonna definitely, I'm not gonna be venom. He might be,
and they might bring him in and he might be
mister Negative's author ego, which is, let's see, Oh, come on,
what's his name? It doesn't say here in this in
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this thing, that's weird. This is on Wikipedia. It doesn't
say who what his actual name is, so that doesn't matter.
But yeah, he might they might like they do that
a lot, Oh Martin Lee, thank you, thank you, thron
a lot in the in.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
The movies, if you have ever noticed, especially.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Sony, does it more like we need a character who's this,
Oh Martin Lee can fit that character where you're like teasing.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
He could be mister.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Negative down the road, but he might not necessarily be
mister Negative in this movie.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
The other the last piece of news before we get
to Eyes of Wakanda is they have it was announced
because I didn't know they were doing this. They're doing
a Punisher special for Disney Plus and they just finished
filming it. Principal photography has been done, so of course
they got to go and edit it and special effects
and whatnot, and it's gonna be I feel it sounds
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from what I've read, it sounds like it's gonna be
like the Swamp thing, where it's just gonna be like
an hour or two hour special on Disney Plus. It's
not gonna be a full movie. It's not gonna be
a full series. It's just gonna be a little extra
thing for him. But I don't know, Like I like
dar Double Born Again. I think they did a good
job even on Disney Plus, is staying true to that show.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
So what do you think? Do you want to see
more John Berthall Punisher? Are you excited for this? Yeah?
I am excited for this. I like John Burnhal's Punisher.
He adds just a good, I don't know, feel of
the Punisher character to anything that he's in. I think
it's a very grounded character. And yeah, I don't know.
I'm I'm not a huge Punisher fan. I'm not gonna
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say that. I'm okay, but I do like aspects of
the character, and those aspects of the character John Burenthal
brings out. Do I want to see a whole movie
or necessarily a whole long ass show. No, but yeah,
something like this. Yeah, I would love to, but I do.
I will say though, I do feel that this punish
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your character or this version works well by sprinkling him
in to other shows. I like it. I like the
roles that have been written for him to punish. That
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Punisher is very myopic. Everything is black and white. If
you're a bad guy, you're dead. If you're a guy
leaves you be. It's tough to beyond the origin story.
It's tough to keep that compelling. So I agree like
sprinkling him in and making him a foil for Daredevil
to have moral conversations with possibly have, especially this version
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of the Tom holland Peter Parker Spider Man where he
risked everything to say villains from other universes. So to
have that confrontation because he is in brand new day,
he's been set and everything, So to have that dichotomy
between the two characters, that works. But to have him
by himself being a killing machine, yeah, like I'll be
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honest with you, Like I dropped off of that show
on Netflix because it got a little repetitive. Yeah, you're
killing the bad guys, I get it. So yeah, I
don't get me wrong. You can make them interesting. I'm
not downplaying the Punisher. I know there's a lot of
Punisher fans out there.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Because what makes because what why can't he be John Wick?
Those movies are popular, right, Yeah, why can't he castle
more like John? So?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, I can't wait till it comes out. Obviously,
we will talk about it on this show and we'll
rate and review it, and yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
There's no release date set yet.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
The question is does this tie into Brand New Day
or is this its own thing. So if it ties
into Brand New Day, I'm sure it'll be out probably
before the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
If it's its own thing, who knows. We shall see.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But speaking of rating and reviewing things, we both watched
Eyes of Wakanda and it is it's a four issue
for issue four episode mini series that was released on
Disney Plus. All four episodes were dropped at once last week.
There aren't any more episodes coming out, and it's technically
a proquel. It's a what do they call that anthology
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where every episode concentrates on different characters and it moves
through time. It starts in what was it like, twelve
hundred PC or something as the first episode?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, up, not only different characters, but in a different
Wakandon artifact.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yes, and it ends up in I think the eighteen
hundreds and yeah, but again it jumps through time.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
There's time traveling.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, let's try to Just before we get into spoilers,
just curious. It feels like it's been a week since
I watched it. But what did you think of what
kind of forever? Non spoiler? Yeah, what do you think
of that?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I think visually it was awesome. I thought the fighting
and the animation of the fighting where the fights looked, thought,
all that was great. The story is the weak point
from a few ass different angles that we'll talk about,
but overall, I think along with the story, the other
weakness is that it isn't about any characters that anyone
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really cares about. But again, the visual, the fighting, Even
for that alone, I would rate this at a seven
out of ten. Okay, I yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
The storyline is the weak part they could have done,
and I get that it's an anthology, but they could
have done a couple of different things, I feel, to
make it a little better.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And the thing is, hate to be.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That guy, but you're dealing with characters that you don't know,
you're never gonna see again, you've never seen before, you're
never going to see.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Again, and it's tough to get you hooked into it
and feel invested because unless you really care about the characters,
it's tough to say, oh, this is good, and you're
only getting a half hour per episode with each character.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But yeah, there's some good action, there's some good points
in the show, but then there's a lot of bad points.
So I feel like i'm a little less than you,
maybe a six and a half out of ten.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Surprise that you gave it that high, because I don't
know if you remember you texted me and you're like,
what was I don't know, however many minutes into the
first episode and NAH like oh boy, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, so yeah, so there you go. That is what
we thought about it. If you haven't seen it yet,
go watch it. If you got to think blessed, you're
not paying anything for extra. If you like the animated shows,
go for it and then have some fun. But if
you have, do you have, if you have seen it,
or you don't care, we'll get in the spoilers now
and here we go. So the first episode, like I said,
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starts off in twelve hundred PC and there's a former
dorm lage.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I can't think of the character's name. Uh. He's big,
he's into lions. Yeah, no, the woman think of the girl? Yeah,
I thought it was the one girl, his girlfriend from
the movies. He's the characters. Yeah, so she's a former
former drama.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
There's a pirates we'll say, pirates raid the city of Wakanda,
and she helps fight them off, and then, uh, the
head of the Dormaalaga, says, there are other pads that
you can follow to to help Wakanda, and they she
sends her off to go after the pirate and get
something that was stolen from Wakanda. Something that's related to
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vibranium of course, And they sent her off and she this,
the guy's the lion right that like he wears a
lion head.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, because he's he's from Wakanda. He defected. He was
like their greatest warrior and he defected. All of these
Wakandan weapons and stuff, and he was using that and
basically like taking over the world, or at least trying to.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And he and basically had this like Davy Jones and
the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, where it's like you
can join and be part of their his army, his crew,
or you can suffer your fate in the be killed.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And he has this.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Whole argument of their prisoners in Wakanda, and when he left,
he felt free and like her nanny wanting to stay
is wrong.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
She's not free. She doesn't understand.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
She's now you're the one that's a prisoner, which it's funny.
Then it becomes the theme throughout the show, and that's
I think one of my problems with the show in general,
is that it's the whole argument of because they have
this this technology, this vibranium and that helped them have
all this advanced technology and stuff, which I'm sorry, they're
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way too advanced for as far back in the past
as they go. The second episode has to do with
the Trojan war and the character that we're following has
a long range communication device that he can contact with
Wakanda while he's in Greece and it's just like, nah,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I was wondering how Yeah, I was wondering how people
would take that, because I'm like, whatever, if they see
it's Wakanda and if ivibraniums in advance and they've had
I guess it makes sense that they're this futuristic when
the end game time or every want to say, phase six.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I my issue with because so it's that whole we
keep secret, we stay to ourselves, and we keep secret,
which then ends up becoming the right It's the theme
in the first movie, which I'll say that the last
episode ties into the first Black Panther movie, and we'll
get to that in a second. But so that was
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like the theme of the movie where kill Manger says
to Challo, you have all this advanced technology and you
just keep it to yourselves, and like where there are
people that look like you in the world who are suffering,
and you could go help them with this technology. But
kill Monger's idea was like, we could go take over
the world and make the people that are making our
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people suffer, which obviously that goes against the child's beliefs.
But then at the end it's no you know what
we can. We can reach out to people and help them,
and they start a help center at the end of
the first movie and whatever, and they introduce themselves to
the world. At that point, they're no longer secret. But
that's part of my issues. You're gonna go that far
back in time and say they were this advance for
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this long. There's gonna be some Wakandan king along the path.
I'm sorry, there's going to be someone at some point.
It's going to go, Nah, let's go conquer those bitches,
like we've we're so much more advanced than everyone else.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
We should be ruling the world.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Eventually, some one of the kings is going to believe that.
You can't sit there and say they were good and
malevolent for thousands of years and never bothered. They just
kept to themselves. Bullshit. That's so unbelievable at that point.
That's why it's like, you want that far back in
time with that far advanced technology. It's not believable. Nah, sorry,
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I'm out. That's what bothered me about it. Like in
the third episode he had a flying thing, but you
were still in ancient times when he had a flying craft,
and it was just like oh come on, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Well I see where you're coming from with that point, though,
that is a problem of this story is to say,
to just re establish that isolationist idea that we've evolved
from since the first Black Panther movie and to just
reinforce that that was My complaint is that I feel
it was a step back to focusing on that part
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of Wakanda. Yeah, or at least displaying it in an extreme. Again,
to say that since the eleven twelve hundreds of Conda
has been that advanced is is a little bit much.
And I understand where you're coming from. We're like, there's
somebody along the World War two, World War One, I
mean something, some something would have heard.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Here was my other issue a show. Let me start
with like, I have been somebody. That's not that I
believe them, but I've been obsessed with conspiracy theories since
I was young, right, because the idea that there's this
giant secret that that are that people are hiding. But
if you're a logical person and you understand how humanity works,
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one of the greatest conspiracy theory that everyone knows the
moon landing was fake, right, some one with the moon
landing is fake. Theory is that in order to pull
that off, there had to have been dozens, if not
hundreds of people involved with that conspiracy to make that
believable and pull it off. From the ship launching in
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Cape Canaveral for the shuttle launching into space, because there
were witnesses there, that's.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
All a take off to landing on the Moon. Them
being there.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
It's not just the astronaut if it was fake. There's
a camera crew, there's a television station, there's all the
people that worked at NASA. You're talking, and somebody's gonna
spill the beans. It's not possible for something to be
that big and be secret, Like a good secret requires
two people to keep it. One person actually keep it,
and if you tell someone, like as soon as you
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tell someone's secret, there's a chance it's going to get out,
Like we've all told secrets to someone that got out
when we didn't want people to know, Like that's human nature.
So the idea that they could keep the an entire
city of Wakanda or country of Wakanda top secret for
thousands of years isn't believable. The other side of that
coin is all four of this episodes they're chasing down
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pieces of vibranium that have gotten out. How did they
get out?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, that was another complaint I had, is it.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
They never explained to you how they got other than
the first one where yeah, the fector from Wakanda.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
But after that, like.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
The Helena Troy had a trinket that she was wearing
that that was a piece of vibranium, and what was
the other one, the iron fist was the Kunglow was
the statue of the dragon, and it was a tongue
sticking out, which also the iron Fist ended up at
Wakanda and then left, and she didn't tell anyone about this, Like,
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it's just it's it's not believable that it was this
advanced and stuff kept getting out, but it was still
kept secret all this time. So it's just it's it
was so tough watching this. If they had gone back
one hundred years, see here, and here's the thing that
this is what I was saying, that could have made
it work if the only thing that ever got out
of Wakanda was that act and the whole show was
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them chasing that down. If the defector in the beginning
of the show, the Lion that was his weapon and
he left with it and then he was killed, but
then he got passed on by treasure hunters throughout the years. Right,
that would have been a cool story, like you're following
the same artifact. You explained how the artifact got out,
and you're following it for hundreds rough thousands of years
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through time. Okay, But the fact that all this different
stuff kept coming out of the country and they kept
having to send the war dogs, that's what the name.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Of the group was that.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
In the show they kept having to send these war
dogs out into the world to recover the stuff and
bring it back. Is then how did you keep it
secret all this time? If vibranium kept getting leaked out,
so it's like the ancient Chinese secret that everyone knows about, Yes,
Ron exactly, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, I know, I'm with you there because to me,
it's like the last episode that deals with that vibranium
ax really is the most important and the only one
that was consequential. Yeah, and evidence of that is and
unless I missed him in the other three, but I
don't think. But when we get to the fourth episode,
Uwattu is in the sky, the Watcher the what if
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Siri yes, which was like oh okay, and there's no
context explained behind it. He's just there and then gone
and then yeah them. So we've got this war dog
and the third Prince of Wakanda and they are trying
to retrieve that vibranium ax that was featured in the
Black Panther movie. And then this entity which I first
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thought was perhaps some sort of old ghost version, but
it turned out to be the final Black Panther Queen
time travel because that ax is actually to remain where
it was not taken back to a Conda so that
Willmonger could steal it from the museum, and that storyline
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happened instead of if the axe is given back to
Wakanda and it's not there for kill Monger to steal,
then on these big insects are going to come destroy
the earth. Because so they were doing an X Men
time travel, they're doing Days of the Future Peace time travel.
So we've got more time travel brokenness here.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Right, Because no, because in that timeline where kill Monger
doesn't find the app or doesn't get the axe, he
doesn't go to Wakanda to influence the Challa to then
get more involved with the world, which I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
You really think that would have stopped him. Oh I
can't Vibranian Axe. I no longer have claim to the
Wakandan throne that I've been thinking of. It still has
the tattoo in his lip. He still is. I got
my bumps. At least I got my bumps.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I get it, And I don't
have an issue with making the acts a more important
thing and doing that. But at the same time, it
was just like, and I think one of the other
issues I had with the show, and it is one
of the things that turned me off, was in the
second episode was it where where it's the Trojan War
and Achilles is leading the Greek army against the Trojans,
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and Bakai is the Wakanan character and he had become
part of the Greek army and helps them fight, and
they talk about he's been with them for years fighting
this war and helping them and whatnot. And of course
they finally get their opportunity. They get into the Trojan
Horse the whole story. They get into the city, they
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sneak in at night, killing the soldiers. They're having a fight,
but of course Bakai sees Helena with the trinket around
her neck, and he goes chases her down into the
throne room to get it, but of course Achilles sees
him run away and it's like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (47:56):
And then they get to the throne room and he
lets them escape.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
He takes the trinket and lets them escape, and that's
when Achilles is like, you're in league with them?
Speaker 1 (48:04):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
And they have a big fight and he ends up
killing Achilles, cuts his Achilles tendons and he bleeds out.
And yet the whole time they're fighting and talking about
how he's his brother and whatnot, and it was like, yeah,
that really turned me off.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Just tell him you don't have to give everything away.
You can just say this is from my home of Wakanda,
and I'm just getting it back to return it to home.
We'll win this war today and I'm just taking this
as a spoiler war.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Like, he doesn't have to explain the technology, he doesn't
have to explain that they're hidden city any of that.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
He just has to say, this is from my home
and this is one of the things I came to get.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
That's it, but no, he decides to kill him, but
he let the he lets the other ones get away,
and it was just like, nah.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
That really turned me off.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You don't fight with someone for years or protect them
to turn on them at the end just because of
your mission for Wakanda, not after years. If it had
been I'll even give him a year into this and
they got and he helped him get this far. But
like they say, it was seven years or something. No,
you don't fight alongside someone for seven years. You're not
the same person at that point. So the idea that
he just gave all that up because of his mission
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is sorry, it really turned me off.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
To me, that was bad writing.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Again, I did like the second episode, the third episode
with the with iron Fist and finding the tongue in
the statue in Kung Loud and him flying home, and
I liked the like the main guy the in that
episode because he was arrogant and it was fun and
the whole fight between the two of them like that
was really well done. And then the weird time travel
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stuff in the final episode where she's gotta he's gotta
put the ax back when so that the Black Panther
movie can happen. Yeah, I don't know. Again, that's my
biggest criticism. If they had just made it the acts
for the whole thing, had the defectors, like he that
was his weapon and he left with it, and that's
what she was sent to get and she failed in
the first episode getting it. So then they show it
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traveling through time to different places like that would have
worked better because then it would have tied all them together.
This is just, oh, look, how great an advance We
were backwards people for a.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Thousand years ago. So I don't know. That's all I
really have to say on it. Yeah, I don't really
have much to add. Like I said, the visuals were great.
There was some decent ideas, but ultimately they failed in
that last episode kind of being the most important. But yet, Yeah,
the whole time travel the axe is the key to
(50:43):
the whole Marvel universe surviving. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yes, yes, the entire survival of the six one six universe.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Was based on that ax.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
No, it makes good, Yeah, because becaus what did the
acts even get used?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Four in Black Panther the movie I can't even remember.
Other for him to just go and show the museum.
She doesn't know shit.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
That was that was supposed to be part of Killmonger's
payment or something not kill Manger. Uh have that Claw,
It was supposed to be part of Claw's payment.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
I think then he killed all those dudes, but then
he killed all the guys.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, like the acts was pointless in the movie when
you really think about it, then that actually have been
in the location.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah, it was that important.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
And also can we like also if there was the
non intervention stuff, then there would have been no Wakanda
in in Infinity War. There would have been no involvement
of Wakanda and the Wakandan Army in those two movies,
and they would have ended differently.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
So yeah, it wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Just been the It wouldn't have just been these aliens
in the future that destroyed the earth and the Wakanda
was all that's left. It would have been I think
maybe without Black Panther and the Army, there's a possibility
to Fantos one at the end and he remade the
whole universe.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah. Sorry, all right.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
So yeah, I'm going to stick with my score six
and a half out of ten. You know, for a
fun show. If you take if you disregard everything, we
just said, you want to watch a cartoon with some
cool fight scenes and animation and kill elf hour here and.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
There, go for it. But you can skip this one.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
It has no impact on anything else in the MCU either.
So do you have any final thoughts on it?
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Or? All right?
Speaker 2 (52:30):
All right, then you know what, let's ask that question.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
We do whatevery of it. What do we learn on
the show tonight? What do you got for me? Don?
And you got any recommendations? I learned that I can
watch a show and want to give it a seven
out of ten. And after I discussed if you've got
a half hour with Dave and be brought recommendations, I
(52:53):
recommend you do what I'm going to do because they
haven't done it yet amazingly enough, because life is whirlwind
since they got back vacation, is to watch Twisted Metal
on the Peacock cap. Oh yeah, I have to do.
I have to watch myself, all right.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I learned that that I can drag Don down to
my level and I'm proud of that. Yeah, recommendation, you
know what, I do want to watch Twisted Metal? I'll
say that as well. I'm also going to recommend that
I believe it's out Wednesday. Season two has finally been
has finally hit.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
I think it's Netflix. Yeah, watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
My girlfriend and I watched season one and we both
really enjoyed it, so we will definitely be checking it
in too. I think they released the first three or
four episodes to.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Go check it out. I don't know if it's good
or not.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I haven't watched it yet, but if its as good
as season one, it should be good. So yeah, that's
it though. That is all I got. I don't know
what we can talk about on Sunday, but hopefully we're
back to our normal schedule for a while. And on
that note, boys and girls, as always, thanks for watching
Don't let You Keepe Caught in the Door, See you
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and I'm the guy on his phone Doc.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, technical difficulties. Even though Don is home now you
can see he is in his man cave, he's having
technical difficulties. Hopefully they would be corrected quickly.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
They will.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But yeah, it's been a week since we got together.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'll talk about that off the top of At the
top of the show. My girlfriend is getting some dental
work done and came home Friday, wasn't feeling well, wasn't
because of her mouth was hurting or what not. She
had a really bad headache. And then Saturday we didn't
get together. She says, I just wanted to rest. I'm like, okay,
So finally she's a Sunday she said, you want to
come over, and I'm like the podcast, Oh, I forgot
(01:02):
about that. And that's when I was like, hey, let's
switch to Monday and then you that's sure?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Why not sounds like a great idea. Sounds like a
great idea, And then what did you have? What happened
on Monday. Let me preface by saying the reason I
was like super into moving it in the first place
was because we came back a day early from vacation.
And the reason we did this is because while we're
on vacation, a nearby, twenty minute to the west, fifteenth
(01:30):
Best roller coaster park on eric Cedar Point is selling
season passes for the rest of this year and next
year water Park Parking you bring a guest and also
works at six Flag. So we're like, bet we're gonna
buy this because it's a good deal and we live
twenty minutes from it, and let's go back a day
early and go. So now, the original plan was to
(01:53):
take two vehicles, but then days he texted me he says, hey,
got a great idea, let's move and I'm like, hey,
that's an awesome idea. Uh here we go, so exciting
and but yes, I forgot that, Yester. No, I'm sorry.
Monday was also my wife's birthday, so Niah, it really
wasn't the best idea. So yeah, I screwed the pooch
(02:16):
on that. It's totally my fault. But all your hate
in the comments below, we love at least you.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
At least you remembered before celebrating anything it thought like
it did the show and then went, oh crap, it
was my wife's birthday.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
That would have been really bad. So yeah, I just
believe in my excitement for Tuesday for the situation that
I just neglected at that point.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But here we are paying Yeah, we're already off. We're
already off our normal schedule. So for the show, I
forgot to say at the top of the show, we're
going to talk obviously Wakanda for not Wakinda Forever, Eyes
of Wakanda, the mini series that came out last week,
which was what we were going to talk about on Sunday.
And there's a little bit of news Marvel news for
(02:59):
Spider Man and rumors about the upcoming movie and what
was the other article that I had here? Oh, and
then there is this was exciting Punisher. There's some Punisher news.
We'll talk about that as well. So yeah, but with
all of that, how was your week? It's been a week.
What was your wife's birthday? Did you do anything fun
for it? Anything exciting happened in this past week to you?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
No, that was about it. As far as going to
Cedar Point, which I mean was cool because my youngest
is over that fifty four inch mark, which okay, you
can ride anything that you want, And I did not
expect her to like be completely and utterly fearless, but
that's that's what happened. I don't know, it was fun time,
(03:45):
but yeah, no, really nothing exciting. What did just appear
for me?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Funny you're reminding me of, Oh you're left so you
could come back. You're reminded me when when my daughter
was young and we took her to Hershey. I'm going
to tell this story. Hopefully he comes back. All right, Okay,
so my daughter was young, we took her to Hershey Park,
which is the big park not far.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
From where I live in Hershey, PA, and of course
it is the Hershey yea.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
And it was one of these she wanted to go
on this roller coaster. No like you just said, no fear.
She was really excited to do it. And they have
that little stick to them to make sure you're the
right height before you get on the ride. And she
was tall enough. The problem is she was wearing these
sandals that the souls were like this thick, so it's
giving her another inch and a half, so she technically
(04:36):
wasn't tall enough. And her mother freaked out afterwards, but
she loved it. She kept saying, oh, let's go on again,
Let's go on again.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I keep waiting for the days that they take my
granddaughters to an amusement park and they do that to
her half.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, I will make sure I buy the twins thick
souled sandals before they go.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
So she far.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But let's see what have I been up to. I
actually went and sold a musical on Thursday last week.
Beetlejuiced the musical and had run here in Philadelphia. We
had bought the tickets in like February and completely forgot
we bought them and her it was her son who
wanted to get my girlfriend son who wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Showtime exactly it was.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And it's funny because we knew it was coming up.
We knew it was in July, but we couldn't remember
what day, and we thought it was a weekend, and
here it was a Thursday. And we went to a
place called Budd and Bud and Maryland's in downtown.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh my god, it was so good, like unbelievably good.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I had this.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I got meat loaf, which is oh meatloft, but it
was called French onion meat loof, so it was like
French onion soup, meats, meat loaf, and it was so good.
Her son got a carne asada steak. It was mixed
with these vegetables and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
And it was marinate. It was cooked perfectly.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And the girlfriend got fried chicken, which I was shocked
because there was a little more pedestrian than some of
the other things on the menu, but that was also
really good.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, it was an amazing meal. As for the play,
it wasn't bad.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
But it's based on the first movie, but they changed
the story around and I get it. You can't do
the same exact thing a lot of times. I focus
is way more on beetlejuice in the musical.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
But it was good. We had a good time. Just
I prefer the movie. Ok. Yeah, and funny you talk
about musicals though. I just had an interesting conversation with
my wife. Of course, we saw the new Wicked. If
you've been to either Superman or Fantastic Four, you've seen
the next Wicked movie. And I was talking with my
wife about it, and my daughter was telling her about it.
(06:42):
But either way, it led us into a conversation about
Cynthia or Revo being storm and it was just my
wife was like, but there's no singing in X Men
or Marvel, so she can't. And I'm like, but don't
you think she's a great actor? And she's yeah, she's awesome,
and I'm like, then why would they do it? I'm like,
I also have to explain to her the all the
(07:02):
way Storm talks. I'm like, they could incorporate her into
it a little bit, but I don't know. I was
an interesting conversation.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, and she's been in other things as well, and
she doesn't always sing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
She just was in a musical I had to sing
before it, just.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Like saying, you Jackman can't be uh Wolverine anymore because
he was in The Music Man on Broadway and then
The Greatest Showman, the movie where You and Leme is
a raw he sings now, so no longer.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I don't. Yeah, my wife is just a major fan
of her singing. I mean, listens to the Wicked soundtrack
in the car, So I guess to her, I don't
know she sing sing. I don't know. She's just a
big fan of her singing. Yeah, she's telling it. Let's
see what else.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Oh, I got a good day because started off with
uh so not to bog down in details about how
my work goes, but like we do what are called iterations,
are two weeks worth of work, and then tried to
release something.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
At the end of the two weeks. Arriva was busy
being Jesus.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes, she was in I think it's a Jesus Christ
Superstar production somewhere. But so I was trying to get
this work done because I thought they were releasing it
next week. And we had a meeting today and it's Okay,
here's what we're releasing on Tuesday, which is the stuff
they already have done, And like I was like, I
like actually had a sigh of relief because I was like, Oh,
(08:26):
I thought this other stuff that I'm currently working on
special to be released on Tuesday. They're like, no, that's
not until the twenty sixth. I'm like, like it was
one of those things where it's been keeping me up
at night because I'm like, I don't think I'm going
to get this stuff done, and I'm so.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Nervous about it. Isn't that the case?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Man?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, look good for you. How much slews over dumb
shit that lands exactly no one cares?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And then today and I'm not going to say the
actual numbers, but today I was I don't know why.
I pulled out an old pair of jeans of mine
that I haven't worn in a long time. And those
who know how men's sizes run to run by your
waist size and your height for pants, and it's every
two inches. And the pair of pants I grabbed are
(09:10):
two sizes, so four inches smaller than the ones I've
been wearing. I was thinking, these are gonna fit, but
let me see how tight they are. I'm wearing them
right now.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like they fit. I'm like, wow, I lost more weight
than I thought I did, so nice, I can breathe,
so yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes I'm not turning blue. So yeah, that made me
just feel good all day long. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
That's good, that's good.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
You know I have an old vegeta vegeta silk button
suret used to be all over back in two thousands.
Hey yeah, I'm proud I can fit it. Boy of
those buttons, I mean they were made from titanium. Apparently
back then they're all holding on.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But hey, yeah, I've had quite a few shirts, like
I got of a Spider Man one that's a button down,
and I have an Hawaiian shirt that's actually a Star
Wars Hawaiian shirt because my family normally does every year
a luaus, a big family get together, and a lot
of times people wear Hawaiian shirts, and my cousin who
hosts this party is a huge Star Wars fan. So
(10:11):
I got that one year, and I've worn it a
couple of times. But I got it when I was thinner,
and a couple of times I've tried that button and
I'm like, no, make gonna happen. But I haven't tried
it since since I've watched the Wait, maybe I should
try it again. So yeah, so that's been my week.
Of course, we both watched some TV. We'll be talking
about that shortly and among other things and so on
(10:32):
that note. Before we get into all that, let's go
to the dark side and I have our good friend Darth.
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back to the show.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh, I also forgot to say at the top of
the show that I'm almost done setting up our new
Tea Spring store, not Tea Spring Tea Public Store, so
hopefully starting Sunday we will switch over to Tea Public. Officially,
I won't be using Spring anymore, and that'll be in
the description of next week's or Sunday's episode, so we'll see.
Thron says he's called a bre Larsen worm, the largest
(12:35):
pre Larsen worm anyone's ever seen. So the Internet was
a buzz the last few days there, don because there's
been a lot of stuff coming out about the Spider
Man movie. And it was funny because originally I thought
we were just gonna be talking about There was a
teaser release him so just showing like the costume really quick,
and I thought, oh, we'll just be talking about that,
(12:57):
but then no, Tom Holland put on his Instagram a
video of him walking out looks like he's in a
hangar or something and the doors open and he walks. Yeah,
and in the new costume, so it's official.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It doesn't. I'm sure you've seen it at this point.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It doesn't look any different than doesn't look much different
than what we saw at the end of No Way Home.
But someone pointed this out, and I'm like, oh, that's true.
The one at No Way Home is cgi. This is
a practical costume that he's actually wearing. Oh, that is
a big difference on Yeah, so yeah, they made the costume.
It's if you look at it, the spider looks more
like Toby Maguire's Spider from from his movies. The back
(13:35):
of the costume kind of looks like I think it
looks Andrew Garfield.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
More accurate in generalty. I think it's just a brighter
blue and the larger spider symbol in the front. I
just think it hearkens, I guess more back to the
actual Spider Man costume that comic fans think of.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So the funny thing about the actual costume that most
people don't realize, and this is also the same issue
with Spider Man and Batman. The costume was supposed to
be black and red. Really, but when you are coloring
a comic and you want to highlight black, you use blue.
So in people's minds it becomes, oh, it's blue and
red and the blackest shadow. No, it's actually the opposite.
(14:15):
It was supposed to be black and red and the
blue with highlights. After a while it's now it's just
blue and red and leave it. Like that same thing
with Batman. He was supposed to be black and gray,
and then you know he's the highlights highlighting it with blue,
and then that's how we got Batman's blue cow.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yeah, but he's done a lot better in transitioning back
to the original idea though. I think now the black
and gray is synonymous, more synonymous with his suit than
the blue and gray. Yeah. That was funny though, because
like in was it no Way Home? Or was it
Far from Home? Which is the one where you made
Spider Man movies? I'm sorry bleed together for me, I
(14:51):
guess as a not Spider Man enthusiast.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Oh, it was just No Way Home where Happy shows
up in the quinjet is helping him out, and he
used this is the synthesizing stuff on the thing to
make a costume, and he makes basically the black and
red costume. And I can't remember. Someone said to me
at that time, it's, oh, they're trying to be edgy
with the blacker rend. I'm like, no, they're actually trying
to be more accurate to the original idea of the
(15:15):
costume that I kind of think of his name that
the original artist on Spider Man. I'm sure there's people
yelling at their computers far from home. Oh okay, it
was far from home. Okay, thron But anyway, but yeah,
they were trying to be more true to the original colors.
And I think it was actually one of my girlfriend's
sons that said it. I'm like, no, it was to
be black and red originally, dick go, thank you, thron Si.
(15:38):
I knew that there was a nerd watching who was going.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
To be like yelling Steve DICKO. Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
But anyway, and then the only thing I thought looked
weird on it. And I don't know what you think.
They have this thing where now they gotta have the
webshooters on the outside and there's these like silver squares
on his wrist where the web shooters are. I know,
what did you think? A lot of people are saying
that they look cheap.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, I tend to agree. I understand people want to
make sure that he has web shooters and it's not
some like freaking mutation that Toby maguire Spider Man got,
So I get that. But even with that, it was
never like a pronounced thing. It's just you know, he
has it. It's the old happened. So yeah, I don't
get people. I don't like it. I like having the
(16:22):
web shooters and I don't care if there was a
little something there. But yeah, them thinking that they need
these like chunky clunky certainly always visible web shooters, I'm
not about I don't hate it. It's not gonna bite
told you asked question. That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, No, it just but I will say that someone
did point out online and I can't disagree with this point.
Tony Start didn't pay for this. He made this himself
at this point. Yeah, and he's back to scrounging for
parts out of the trash. Remember we get introduced him.
He had stole a cable box out of the trash,
so yeah, for parts. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That's actually sac Oh sure, yeah, yeah, so I think
in that sense.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, it's not gonna look what's the word high techy
like something, Yeah, it's gonna look. Jenky Thron says they
look like toy ones that shoot silly string as web,
which is probably a marketing ploy to make toy ones
that shoot silly string for the kiddies.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Which you know what, I'm totally about, because that's the
way you are gonna make money with these movies through
that stuff. Yeah, kids, toys or whatever that happens. Oh yeah,
that's how they make most of their money. So Superman
was wildly successful and great and wonderful and still only
did half a billion you know, yeah, oh it'd be
(17:40):
Fantastic four, which was a great MCU movie, But Fantastic
four can't hold a hand candle to what Superman did. Like,
their second weekend drop off was way worse. And that's
what Superman. Like, Superman's gonna be in streaming in three
or four weeks, I think, or something crazy like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
So as of this stream according to box office Mojo, worldwide,
Superman has made five hundred and fifty nine million, five
hundred and fifty nine point three million dollars. So that's
not bid because again I think the original estimates they
were saying it had to make between five and seven
hundred million to be profitable. So I don't think they're
gonna turn around and say, Okay, we're done with this
(18:15):
now Fantastic four. I did see something where they were
saying it needed to make three hundred and seventy million
dollars to be profitable, like anything above three hundred and
seventy million would be profit. As of this stream, it's
made three hundred and seventy eight point three million dollars worldwide,
so it's profitable. But yet I wanted to talk about
that because I keep seeing a lot of articles, not
(18:37):
from mainstream now mind you.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Nerd stits like ours saying, oh, the movie's a failure.
It's blah blah blah. Some of them are going, oh,
it's woke, so that's why it failed, which again I
don't feel like the movie was woke.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't know where that's coming from. The hack criticism
at this point in time. Yeah, and it's just have
anything to say if you say that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Agree, and most of the people who say that didn't
actually see the movie. But it brings up an interesting
point you sent this to me, and I had already
seen it because I'm friends with mister Leifeld on the
on the internets, on the facebooks, and he is on
a anti Marvel rant lately. And he's at the he
(19:19):
went to the theater and Imax showing of Fantastic and
the movie hasn't started or anything. He's just in a
theater sitting there and he takes a picture of the theater.
Now we don't here's the thing. You don't know if
he got there twenty minutes before the movie started, and
he's just sitting in the theater and decided to take
the picture, write the reference. He just takes the picture
and posts it and goes, yeah, no, no audience on
(19:41):
the second weekend because this is because it's a boring movie.
It's just like why, like why are you attacking this
the Marvel? And like people are saying, this is all
still stemming from he didn't get invited to some after
party for Deadpool Wolverine. That's what, yeah, is he There's
got to be more to it than that. It can't
(20:03):
just be he wasn't invited to a party, So now
he hates Marvel forever.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Listen, man, this guy went off on you for no
reason whatsoever. Yeah, he's the billion dollar comic book baby
from the nineties and day probby but you're hey. But
nonetheless is he's made a lot of money and and
you're Dave, which you're great, and our fifty nine thousand
(20:27):
subscribers strong, you know all that no reason to go
after you. There's just nothing for him to gain. And
he just lit you up on Facebook, on your personal face.
It wasn't like a superhero speak Facebook page. Yeah, yeah,
Dave Mark whatever, Yeah, your personal shit. And he did that.
So this is completely consistent with his way of thinking
(20:50):
who he is. Yeah, yeah, and it is. But yes,
it's first of he's in an imax. Okay. The majority
of people I ever talked to are come across who've
seen him movie. He didn't have him do it, Max,
Like you said, it's show me that picture during the
opening weekend. Okay, and maybe you've got a point, Wait
till the second week go at some fucking Maine imax. Right,
(21:10):
you're just being petty. And again, as we've described, that's
what he does. Apparently, now that's how he spends his retirement.
Since no one outside of someone that makes Gi Joe
comics wants anything to do with them.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
So and it's one of those things where if the
movie had been on the screen when he took the
picture and it was empty, I'd been like, oh okay,
But it was like I think it was like like
the commercials or something. We're still playing.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
We all know, like when I buy movies that start
at eight o'clock, I know it's not maybe the previews
start at eight. There's commercial in front of it, and
then people are not stupid, but they figure that out.
They don't want to stick to that. And now there's
a sign seating, so you don't even have to get
hurtly to make sure you get the exact seats you want.
You know you're gonna get the seats you even an
(21:55):
oldie fucking put stickers on there, Vandango, they will sign
that shit now.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah no, And that's the funny thing because yeah, they're
all assigned seating now, and that's the whole thing. And
it's funny because I've had people argue, I don't like that.
It's just buy your tickets early and get and pick
your seat and you can sit wherever you want. But yeah,
movie theaters have done that where it's like, because I've
said this to many people, like it used to be
the commercials when they started showing, the commercials ended at
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let's say it's an eight thirty showing, they ended at
eight thirty, and the previews started at eight thirty, and
then there would be twenty minutes of previews. Now it's no,
the commercials are start are still going at eight thirty,
and then there's twenty minutes of previews and then the
movie doesn't start for almost an hour sometimes half hour
to an hour after it's supposed to start. So it's
so people have learned that at this point. And again,
(22:44):
if you have a signed seating you can come a
half hour later, you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Get your seats.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, it was weird. It was very petty. It's one
of those burning your bridges thing too. Write So if
they do a Deadpool and Wolverine too, they're not going
to ask them to be involved because because he's doing
this stuff and like Marvel will be like, nah, we
don't need you for this project.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yes, clearly, clearly he's bitter about his lack of influence
of the Deadpool character in the comics, and particularly in
the movies that have been while successful. In fact, his
character Ryan Reynolds is now more responsible for the success
of that character than Rob Leifeld. And so I could
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see again us knowing personally the type of person he is.
He yeah, I could see that just eating up at him.
The only point to be made here, because this isn't
a oh look how good DC is and how shitty
Marvel is, which is what he's trying. That's the point
he's trying to make. No man, the whole thing right now,
is we what we've just seen, which is of no
(23:47):
news to anybody that's into comics, is that Superman is
more popular than Fantastic Four. And I'm mister Obvia hello.
Fantastic four is good, but it's not Superman, and it
was They're most officially the better quality, but still care
about this fucking character a lot a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Do you get the three most popular characters in comics
are Superman, Batman and Spider Man like hands down, and
Wolverine's a close forth.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Okay, then, but that's the other thing.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Not only is it Superman a lot of people's favorite character,
it's also everyone wanted to see what's James gunn gonna
do with the character. What's the new DC you gonna
be like, it's a whole there's a whole lot more
mixed in with Superman than there was a Fantastic Four
because it's it's a continuation of the MCU. It's taking
place in a different multiverse. But it's which I think
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made the movie better because you didn't need to watch
twenty other movies to watch Fantastic for you could just
go watch it. But yeah, it's the Fantastic Four. It's
been done a bunch of times and has never really
hit home. This probably is the best version of the characters.
But still that's a that's that all right. Speaking of Marvel,
and we were talking about, of course Spider Man. It
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is rumored and it's been some of the things that
have been spotted on set have fueled this rumor a
little bit more that Daniel Daykim.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Who was in Lost in Hawaii five, Oh a lot
of people know who he.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Is rumored to be playing Mister Negative in Brand New Day.
And he was asked us in an interview and he
didn't say if he was or wasn't doing it, but
he did say, oh, I'm so ready to play that character,
and so, yeah, like this is pretty interesting the people
who don't know he was I believe he was kidnapped
by silver Mad.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
This is from two thousand and four, two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It was when he was introduced in the comics, captured
by Silvermin was experimented on with this serah which gave
him his powers, and like when he can turn his
powers on and off, and when he turns them on,
his colors flip looking like a picture negative. That's why
he's Mister Negative. And he's a fairly he was a
He's a big villain in the Spider Man games and
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Spider Man two if you've played those, and so he's
fairly popular. He's not like one of the most known
because again he's a post two thousand villain and they're
not as I don't think they're as well known as
some of the other villains. But yeah, that's the rumors
that he's going to be the main villain in Brand
New Day. Do you know anything about Mister Negative? What
do you think?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Oh, I know nothing about Mr So thank you for
the synopsis there, But in saying that, it really gives
me two questions. First off, is do you really think
that this actor read the comics miter negative and I
hate when people say that, oh, I'm ready to play
that character like they were really abreast on their Lauren
history from the comics. No, you, I'm really ready to
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have that payday is But anyway, so that's my first question,
you really think he actually cares about the character? And
then second question, though, is in this fantastical multiverse extravaganza,
what kind of role is this ce tier villain gonna play.
I don't know. I don't believe. I don't understand how
that could play any part in what's happening.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's funny one of the things I would like them
to see them do. And two thousand and seven, sorry,
I wanted to check. When he was introduced in the game,
they tie him to Miles Morales. He's the one in
the game that kills Miles's father. So maybe it'd be
a fun way to bring Miles into the MCU by
doing the same elements as in the comics. They probably
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won't in the game. They probably won't, but that could
be a fun little thing to do.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Here's the thing, Miles Morales has to be one of
the sorest spots in Marvel's history, not having access to
that character during their rise of the MCU, because that's
why I don't think this is going to be. Another
reason I don't think it's going to happen is I
don't think they're going to do Miles Morales in this
MCU since Sony's got them by the balls. I think
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they're forced to do it with the Peter Parker. But
I think it's a missed opportunity that they didn't also
have Miles Morales to deal with as we're going through
the multiverse, shit, that actually makes sense for you to
put him in. Maybe and hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm
wrong and they're like, Nope, here come Mile Morales Secret Wars. Okay, sweet,
we'll see. I think it's a big sore spot.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Ah okay, wait a minute. See this is when I
wasn't reading comics. But this is an interesting So when
he was introduced, he was at the Feast Center, which
is that's that is something in the newer spider Man comics.
May works there and whatnot, and it's like a center
for poor people in the neighborhood. Eddie Brock was there
and if you remember, I don't remember they gave him
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cancer in the comics, and the symbiat was what was
keeping him alive.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, mister negative.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
One of his powers is healing touch, so he healed
Eddie Brock, so he didn't need the cymbia anymore. And
because that's other that's another rumor is like they people
are trying to say, oh, they're setting up Venom, which
I don't know if they're going to do that because
they did the Venom movies and they tried to tie
them together.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
But yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I don't think they're going to bring Venom in, not
at this point anyway, but that could be interesting. Yeah, no,
and I agree too, Like if you probably ask any actor,
almost any actor, especially he's not an up and comings
he's like our age and he's been in a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Of different things.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
But I'm pretty sure if you ask any up and
coming actor, oh, would you want to play this character,
of course they're gonna say yes. It's like a big payday,
it's a big thing.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
He's probably not a big comic book fan. He could
be gen xers. We tend to be big collectors, but
but again, we all stopped in the early two.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Reading on a regular base, so he wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Really known who mister Negative was, even if he's a
big Spider Man fan. So yeah, I agree, we'll see
what happens, but I don't think I think you're right.
This isn't going to be a thing, like he's not
gonna definitely, I'm not gonna be venom. He might be,
and they might bring him in and he might be
mister Negative's author ego, which is, let's see, Oh, come on,
what's his name? It doesn't say here in this in
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this thing, that's weird. This is on Wikipedia. It doesn't
say who what his actual name is, so that doesn't matter.
But yeah, he might they might like they do that
a lot, Oh Martin Lee, thank you, thank you, thron
a lot in the in.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
The movies, if you have ever noticed, especially.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Sony, does it more like we need a character who's this,
Oh Martin Lee can fit that character where you're like teasing.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
He could be mister.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Negative down the road, but he might not necessarily be
mister Negative in this movie.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
So yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
The other the last piece of news before we get
to Eyes of Wakanda is they have it was announced
because I didn't know they were doing this. They're doing
a Punisher special for Disney Plus and they just finished
filming it. Principal photography has been done, so of course
they got to go and edit it and special effects
and whatnot, and it's gonna be I feel it sounds
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from what I've read, it sounds like it's gonna be
like the Swamp thing, where it's just gonna be like
an hour or two hour special on Disney Plus. It's
not gonna be a full movie. It's not gonna be
a full series. It's just gonna be a little extra
thing for him. But I don't know, Like I like
dar Double Born Again. I think they did a good
job even on Disney Plus, is staying true to that show.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
So what do you think? Do you want to see
more John Berthall Punisher? Are you excited for this? Yeah?
I am excited for this. I like John Burnhal's Punisher.
He adds just a good, I don't know, feel of
the Punisher character to anything that he's in. I think
it's a very grounded character. And yeah, I don't know.
I'm I'm not a huge Punisher fan. I'm not gonna
(31:30):
say that. I'm okay, but I do like aspects of
the character, and those aspects of the character John Burenthal
brings out. Do I want to see a whole movie
or necessarily a whole long ass show. No, but yeah,
something like this. Yeah, I would love to, but I do.
I will say though, I do feel that this punish
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your character or this version works well by sprinkling him
in to other shows. I like it. I like the
roles that have been written for him to punish. That
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Punisher is very myopic. Everything is black and white. If
you're a bad guy, you're dead. If you're a guy
leaves you be. It's tough to beyond the origin story.
It's tough to keep that compelling. So I agree like
sprinkling him in and making him a foil for Daredevil
to have moral conversations with possibly have, especially this version
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of the Tom holland Peter Parker Spider Man where he
risked everything to say villains from other universes. So to
have that confrontation because he is in brand new day,
he's been set and everything, So to have that dichotomy
between the two characters, that works. But to have him
by himself being a killing machine, yeah, like I'll be
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honest with you, Like I dropped off of that show
on Netflix because it got a little repetitive. Yeah, you're
killing the bad guys, I get it. So yeah, I
don't get me wrong. You can make them interesting. I'm
not downplaying the Punisher. I know there's a lot of
Punisher fans out there.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Because what makes because what why can't he be John Wick?
Those movies are popular, right, Yeah, why can't he castle
more like John? So?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, yeah, I can't wait till it comes out. Obviously,
we will talk about it on this show and we'll
rate and review it, and yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
There's no release date set yet.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
The question is does this tie into Brand New Day
or is this its own thing. So if it ties
into Brand New Day, I'm sure it'll be out probably
before the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
If it's its own thing, who knows. We shall see.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
But speaking of rating and reviewing things, we both watched
Eyes of Wakanda and it is it's a four issue
for issue four episode mini series that was released on
Disney Plus. All four episodes were dropped at once last week.
There aren't any more episodes coming out, and it's technically
a proquel. It's a what do they call that anthology
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where every episode concentrates on different characters and it moves
through time. It starts in what was it like, twelve
hundred PC or something as the first episode?
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, up, not only different characters, but in a different
Wakandon artifact.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yes, and it ends up in I think the eighteen
hundreds and yeah, but again it jumps through time.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
There's time traveling.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, let's try to Just before we get into spoilers,
just curious. It feels like it's been a week since
I watched it. But what did you think of what
kind of forever? Non spoiler? Yeah, what do you think
of that?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I think visually it was awesome. I thought the fighting
and the animation of the fighting where the fights looked, thought,
all that was great. The story is the weak point
from a few ass different angles that we'll talk about,
but overall, I think along with the story, the other
weakness is that it isn't about any characters that anyone
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really cares about. But again, the visual, the fighting, Even
for that alone, I would rate this at a seven
out of ten. Okay, I yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
The storyline is the weak part they could have done,
and I get that it's an anthology, but they could
have done a couple of different things, I feel, to
make it a little better.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
And the thing is, hate to be.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That guy, but you're dealing with characters that you don't know,
you're never gonna see again, you've never seen before, you're
never going to see.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Again, and it's tough to get you hooked into it
and feel invested because unless you really care about the characters,
it's tough to say, oh, this is good, and you're
only getting a half hour per episode with each character.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
But yeah, there's some good action, there's some good points
in the show, but then there's a lot of bad points.
So I feel like i'm a little less than you,
maybe a six and a half out of ten.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Surprise that you gave it that high, because I don't
know if you remember you texted me and you're like,
what was I don't know, however many minutes into the
first episode and NAH like oh boy, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, so yeah, so there you go. That is what
we thought about it. If you haven't seen it yet,
go watch it. If you got to think blessed, you're
not paying anything for extra. If you like the animated shows,
go for it and then have some fun. But if
you have, do you have, if you have seen it,
or you don't care, we'll get in the spoilers now
and here we go. So the first episode, like I said,
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starts off in twelve hundred PC and there's a former
dorm lage.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I can't think of the character's name. Uh. He's big,
he's into lions. Yeah, no, the woman think of the girl? Yeah,
I thought it was the one girl, his girlfriend from
the movies. He's the characters. Yeah, so she's a former
former drama.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
There's a pirates we'll say, pirates raid the city of Wakanda,
and she helps fight them off, and then, uh, the
head of the Dormaalaga, says, there are other pads that
you can follow to to help Wakanda, and they she
sends her off to go after the pirate and get
something that was stolen from Wakanda. Something that's related to
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vibranium of course, And they sent her off and she this,
the guy's the lion right that like he wears a
lion head.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, because he's he's from Wakanda. He defected. He was
like their greatest warrior and he defected. All of these
Wakandan weapons and stuff, and he was using that and
basically like taking over the world, or at least trying to.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
And he and basically had this like Davy Jones and
the Pirates of the Caribbean movies, where it's like you
can join and be part of their his army, his crew,
or you can suffer your fate in the be killed.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
And he has this.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Whole argument of their prisoners in Wakanda, and when he left,
he felt free and like her nanny wanting to stay
is wrong.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
She's not free. She doesn't understand.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
She's now you're the one that's a prisoner, which it's funny.
Then it becomes the theme throughout the show, and that's
I think one of my problems with the show in general,
is that it's the whole argument of because they have
this this technology, this vibranium and that helped them have
all this advanced technology and stuff, which I'm sorry, they're
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way too advanced for as far back in the past
as they go. The second episode has to do with
the Trojan war and the character that we're following has
a long range communication device that he can contact with
Wakanda while he's in Greece and it's just like, nah,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I was wondering how Yeah, I was wondering how people
would take that, because I'm like, whatever, if they see
it's Wakanda and if ivibraniums in advance and they've had
I guess it makes sense that they're this futuristic when
the end game time or every want to say, phase six.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I my issue with because so it's that whole we
keep secret, we stay to ourselves, and we keep secret,
which then ends up becoming the right It's the theme
in the first movie, which I'll say that the last
episode ties into the first Black Panther movie, and we'll
get to that in a second. But so that was
(39:16):
like the theme of the movie where kill Manger says
to Challo, you have all this advanced technology and you
just keep it to yourselves, and like where there are
people that look like you in the world who are suffering,
and you could go help them with this technology. But
kill Monger's idea was like, we could go take over
the world and make the people that are making our
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people suffer, which obviously that goes against the child's beliefs.
But then at the end it's no you know what
we can. We can reach out to people and help them,
and they start a help center at the end of
the first movie and whatever, and they introduce themselves to
the world. At that point, they're no longer secret. But
that's part of my issues. You're gonna go that far
back in time and say they were this advance for
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this long. There's gonna be some Wakandan king along the path.
I'm sorry, there's going to be someone at some point.
It's going to go, Nah, let's go conquer those bitches,
like we've we're so much more advanced than everyone else.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
We should be ruling the world.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Eventually, some one of the kings is going to believe that.
You can't sit there and say they were good and
malevolent for thousands of years and never bothered. They just
kept to themselves. Bullshit. That's so unbelievable at that point.
That's why it's like, you want that far back in
time with that far advanced technology. It's not believable. Nah, sorry,
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I'm out. That's what bothered me about it. Like in
the third episode he had a flying thing, but you
were still in ancient times when he had a flying craft,
and it was just like oh come on, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Well I see where you're coming from with that point, though,
that is a problem of this story is to say,
to just re establish that isolationist idea that we've evolved
from since the first Black Panther movie and to just
reinforce that that was My complaint is that I feel
it was a step back to focusing on that part
(41:12):
of Wakanda. Yeah, or at least displaying it in an extreme. Again,
to say that since the eleven twelve hundreds of Conda
has been that advanced is is a little bit much.
And I understand where you're coming from. We're like, there's
somebody along the World War two, World War One, I
mean something, some something would have heard.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Here was my other issue a show. Let me start
with like, I have been somebody. That's not that I
believe them, but I've been obsessed with conspiracy theories since
I was young, right, because the idea that there's this
giant secret that that are that people are hiding. But
if you're a logical person and you understand how humanity works,
(41:54):
one of the greatest conspiracy theory that everyone knows the
moon landing was fake, right, some one with the moon
landing is fake. Theory is that in order to pull
that off, there had to have been dozens, if not
hundreds of people involved with that conspiracy to make that
believable and pull it off. From the ship launching in
(42:17):
Cape Canaveral for the shuttle launching into space, because there
were witnesses there, that's.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
All a take off to landing on the Moon. Them
being there.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
It's not just the astronaut if it was fake. There's
a camera crew, there's a television station, there's all the
people that worked at NASA. You're talking, and somebody's gonna
spill the beans. It's not possible for something to be
that big and be secret, Like a good secret requires
two people to keep it. One person actually keep it,
and if you tell someone, like as soon as you
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tell someone's secret, there's a chance it's going to get out,
Like we've all told secrets to someone that got out
when we didn't want people to know, Like that's human nature.
So the idea that they could keep the an entire
city of Wakanda or country of Wakanda top secret for
thousands of years isn't believable. The other side of that
coin is all four of this episodes they're chasing down
(43:12):
pieces of vibranium that have gotten out. How did they
get out?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, that was another complaint I had, is it.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
They never explained to you how they got other than
the first one where yeah, the fector from Wakanda.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
But after that, like.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
The Helena Troy had a trinket that she was wearing
that that was a piece of vibranium, and what was
the other one, the iron fist was the Kunglow was
the statue of the dragon, and it was a tongue
sticking out, which also the iron Fist ended up at
Wakanda and then left, and she didn't tell anyone about this, Like,
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it's just it's it's not believable that it was this
advanced and stuff kept getting out, but it was still
kept secret all this time. So it's just it's it
was so tough watching this. If they had gone back
one hundred years, see here, and here's the thing that
this is what I was saying, that could have made
it work if the only thing that ever got out
of Wakanda was that act and the whole show was
(44:10):
them chasing that down. If the defector in the beginning
of the show, the Lion that was his weapon and
he left with it and then he was killed, but
then he got passed on by treasure hunters throughout the years. Right,
that would have been a cool story, like you're following
the same artifact. You explained how the artifact got out,
and you're following it for hundreds rough thousands of years
(44:33):
through time. Okay, But the fact that all this different
stuff kept coming out of the country and they kept
having to send the war dogs, that's what the name.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Of the group was that.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
In the show they kept having to send these war
dogs out into the world to recover the stuff and
bring it back. Is then how did you keep it
secret all this time? If vibranium kept getting leaked out,
so it's like the ancient Chinese secret that everyone knows about, Yes,
Ron exactly, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, I know, I'm with you there because to me,
it's like the last episode that deals with that vibranium
ax really is the most important and the only one
that was consequential. Yeah, and evidence of that is and
unless I missed him in the other three, but I
don't think. But when we get to the fourth episode,
Uwattu is in the sky, the Watcher the what if
(45:22):
Siri yes, which was like oh okay, and there's no
context explained behind it. He's just there and then gone
and then yeah them. So we've got this war dog
and the third Prince of Wakanda and they are trying
to retrieve that vibranium ax that was featured in the
Black Panther movie. And then this entity which I first
(45:43):
thought was perhaps some sort of old ghost version, but
it turned out to be the final Black Panther Queen
time travel because that ax is actually to remain where
it was not taken back to a Conda so that
Willmonger could steal it from the museum, and that storyline
(46:04):
happened instead of if the axe is given back to
Wakanda and it's not there for kill Monger to steal,
then on these big insects are going to come destroy
the earth. Because so they were doing an X Men
time travel, they're doing Days of the Future Peace time travel.
So we've got more time travel brokenness here.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Right, Because no, because in that timeline where kill Monger
doesn't find the app or doesn't get the axe, he
doesn't go to Wakanda to influence the Challa to then
get more involved with the world, which I don't know if.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
You really think that would have stopped him. Oh I
can't Vibranian Axe. I no longer have claim to the
Wakandan throne that I've been thinking of. It still has
the tattoo in his lip. He still is. I got
my bumps. At least I got my bumps.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I get it, And I don't
have an issue with making the acts a more important
thing and doing that. But at the same time, it
was just like, and I think one of the other
issues I had with the show, and it is one
of the things that turned me off, was in the
second episode was it where where it's the Trojan War
and Achilles is leading the Greek army against the Trojans,
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and Bakai is the Wakanan character and he had become
part of the Greek army and helps them fight, and
they talk about he's been with them for years fighting
this war and helping them and whatnot. And of course
they finally get their opportunity. They get into the Trojan
Horse the whole story. They get into the city, they
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sneak in at night, killing the soldiers. They're having a fight,
but of course Bakai sees Helena with the trinket around
her neck, and he goes chases her down into the
throne room to get it, but of course Achilles sees
him run away and it's like what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (47:56):
And then they get to the throne room and he
lets them escape.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
He takes the trinket and lets them escape, and that's
when Achilles is like, you're in league with them?
Speaker 1 (48:04):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
And they have a big fight and he ends up
killing Achilles, cuts his Achilles tendons and he bleeds out.
And yet the whole time they're fighting and talking about
how he's his brother and whatnot, and it was like, yeah,
that really turned me off.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Just tell him you don't have to give everything away.
You can just say this is from my home of Wakanda,
and I'm just getting it back to return it to home.
We'll win this war today and I'm just taking this
as a spoiler war.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Like, he doesn't have to explain the technology, he doesn't
have to explain that they're hidden city any of that.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
He just has to say, this is from my home
and this is one of the things I came to get.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
That's it, but no, he decides to kill him, but
he let the he lets the other ones get away,
and it was just like, nah.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
That really turned me off.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
You don't fight with someone for years or protect them
to turn on them at the end just because of
your mission for Wakanda, not after years. If it had
been I'll even give him a year into this and
they got and he helped him get this far. But
like they say, it was seven years or something. No,
you don't fight alongside someone for seven years. You're not
the same person at that point. So the idea that
he just gave all that up because of his mission
(49:19):
is sorry, it really turned me off.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
To me, that was bad writing.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Again, I did like the second episode, the third episode
with the with iron Fist and finding the tongue in
the statue in Kung Loud and him flying home, and
I liked the like the main guy the in that
episode because he was arrogant and it was fun and
the whole fight between the two of them like that
was really well done. And then the weird time travel
(49:47):
stuff in the final episode where she's gotta he's gotta
put the ax back when so that the Black Panther
movie can happen. Yeah, I don't know. Again, that's my
biggest criticism. If they had just made it the acts
for the whole thing, had the defectors, like he that
was his weapon and he left with it, and that's
what she was sent to get and she failed in
the first episode getting it. So then they show it
(50:10):
traveling through time to different places like that would have
worked better because then it would have tied all them together.
This is just, oh, look, how great an advance We
were backwards people for a.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Thousand years ago. So I don't know. That's all I
really have to say on it. Yeah, I don't really
have much to add. Like I said, the visuals were great.
There was some decent ideas, but ultimately they failed in
that last episode kind of being the most important. But yet, Yeah,
the whole time travel the axe is the key to
(50:43):
the whole Marvel universe surviving. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yes, yes, the entire survival of the six one six universe.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Was based on that ax.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
No, it makes good, Yeah, because becaus what did the
acts even get used?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Four in Black Panther the movie I can't even remember.
Other for him to just go and show the museum.
She doesn't know shit.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
That was that was supposed to be part of Killmonger's
payment or something not kill Manger. Uh have that Claw,
It was supposed to be part of Claw's payment.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
I think then he killed all those dudes, but then
he killed all the guys.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, like the acts was pointless in the movie when
you really think about it, then that actually have been
in the location.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah, it was that important.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
And also can we like also if there was the
non intervention stuff, then there would have been no Wakanda
in in Infinity War. There would have been no involvement
of Wakanda and the Wakandan Army in those two movies,
and they would have ended differently.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
So yeah, it wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Just been the It wouldn't have just been these aliens
in the future that destroyed the earth and the Wakanda
was all that's left. It would have been I think
maybe without Black Panther and the Army, there's a possibility
to Fantos one at the end and he remade the
whole universe.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah. Sorry, all right.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
So yeah, I'm going to stick with my score six
and a half out of ten. You know, for a
fun show. If you take if you disregard everything, we
just said, you want to watch a cartoon with some
cool fight scenes and animation and kill elf hour here and.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
There, go for it. But you can skip this one.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
It has no impact on anything else in the MCU either.
So do you have any final thoughts on it?
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Or? All right?
Speaker 2 (52:30):
All right, then you know what, let's ask that question.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
We do whatevery of it. What do we learn on
the show tonight? What do you got for me? Don?
And you got any recommendations? I learned that I can
watch a show and want to give it a seven
out of ten. And after I discussed if you've got
a half hour with Dave and be brought recommendations, I
(52:53):
recommend you do what I'm going to do because they
haven't done it yet amazingly enough, because life is whirlwind
since they got back vacation, is to watch Twisted Metal
on the Peacock cap. Oh yeah, I have to do.
I have to watch myself, all right.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
I learned that that I can drag Don down to
my level and I'm proud of that. Yeah, recommendation, you
know what, I do want to watch Twisted Metal? I'll
say that as well. I'm also going to recommend that
I believe it's out Wednesday. Season two has finally been
has finally hit.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
I think it's Netflix. Yeah, watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
My girlfriend and I watched season one and we both
really enjoyed it, so we will definitely be checking it
in too. I think they released the first three or
four episodes to.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Go check it out. I don't know if it's good
or not.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
I haven't watched it yet, but if its as good
as season one, it should be good. So yeah, that's
it though. That is all I got. I don't know
what we can talk about on Sunday, but hopefully we're
back to our normal schedule for a while. And on
that note, boys and girls, as always, thanks for watching
Don't let You Keepe Caught in the Door, See you
next time.
Speaker 4 (54:01):
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