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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Archangels, ghosts, and Bigfoot. Oh why, it's just another night
for Supernatural Girls and real stories, real answers to life's
biggest supernatural mysteries. And now for another exciting interview with
paranormal experts from this world and others. Here's your host,
paranormal researcher Patricia Baker on the One the Only Supernatural Girls.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Welcome everyone to another exciting episode of Supernatural Girls. I'm
your host, Patricia Baker. I am here with my lovely
co host all the way from j Song. Well for you,
it's Patricia Kirkman v K. How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Doing fine, my dear, doing fine, enjoying a semi strange day.
It's a little cool, but not too bad, so I'm
just kind of enjoying it. It's before the worst to come,
as we know, because it's winter time.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Now, that's right, that's right, expecting.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Sunshine and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So tell us about the numbers and then I'm going
to go into a little bit of sharing about the
UFO experience we had here.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, definitely, I passed that on to a couple of
people to see it. I was there going what yeah,
did Thank god? Your husband got a new camera.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I know, the best of the best.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Really, he deserved the best he's got. You.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, hey, you're not kidding now, you said it.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Got a doubt in my mind. Kiddle said it all.
I had a couple of calls asking me again about retrograde.
It's the most mind boggling for many of us. So
retrograde actually just started on the twenty fifth. It will
last three weeks long this time. So those that are
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in the fire sides are going to find it difficult
to see themselves clearly or take actions of what they
need to. We're going to find those that are in
the earth sides are going to push themselves to revisit resentments,
familiar disagreements, and emotional boundaries. So hey, folks, get that
little pad of paper out, make your notes, fix it,
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let's take care of it so you don't have to
carry it around for the next couple of years. So
then we've got our air sides, communication clashes of watch amounts.
You're gonna have a lot of things to say. Most
social and interpersonal parts of their chart are going to
pop up. I'm but the least expect it, so you
kind of be a little more cognizant of what comes
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out is going to make a mark somewhere.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Then the water.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
They're going to have to work out matters where money's
affecting them, and it's going to have a lot to
do with more with that than anything else. So be
careful making financial investments and taking things. So I thought, well,
this is what we're all facing, the retrograde, and each
one of us are facing it a little bit different.
But the most important thing is to be cautious of
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what you've got, take care of what you say, and God,
if you're not sure what you're saying, zip your lip. Afterwards,
you'll be grateful that you did. It's too easy to
just jump right out there right now, especially if the
holidays coming, everybody's going to have possibly a little livation
and that's going to loose lips in ships type thing.
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So let's be a little cautious of what we do. Folks.
Enjoy the holiday and enjoy your time with family, but
be a little cognizant of what comes out of what
goes in.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, really, it's like you don't want to do the
open mouth insert fit foot routine. Definitely want to do that.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's so easy, right, now because everybody's worn out. The
election took its toll on everybody. What's going on right now?
People aren't sure which direction to go, and everybody thinks
that they're losing. I don't care what side you're on,
you'd still think you've lost out on something. No, you
have it. Take a deep breath, take a look at
where you are, what you're doing, be your new best friend.
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Wake up in the morning, look at the mirror and say, hey,
what could I do for you today? Instead of taking
a look and say, oh, look what they did to
be Huh.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
No victim mentality here, No, definitely not. Okay goo ahd Well,
thank you for sharing that. So as you know, those
of you who are following us on Facebook and Twitter,
please follow us if you're not, and give us a
like and to follow on our YouTube channel also. Right,
but we saw quite the UFO Friday evening about five
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point fifty pm. I normally don't look outside when it's dark.
I was going into the kitchen to make dinner. Happened
just so happened to turn my head and I saw
a light in the sky. I hadn't seen previously in
that spot. So I said to my husband Hey, get
your camera, let's go out and take some pictures. It
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was freezing out there, so we're standing on the back
because we were you know, did this so quickly. We
didn't grab coats. We just ran out there. And he
has a brand new iPhone sixteen camera so that the
camera was unbelievable on this thing. So he took two
videos and several pictures and we were very taken with
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what came out. Now, I sent it to our dear
friend Bob Lucas, the UFO expert, after everything he's been through.
He's actually the first call I made, and he said
to me, he said, this is a UFO. There's no question,
not one of the triangular ships. It's one of ours.
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It's definitely one of theirs. So it was quite exciting. Now,
the weird part of it is you will hear on
the video a train going by. Now, when we were
out there, we didn't hear anything. There is a train
that's about a mile train tracks a mile from us.
The train does travel that way, but when we were
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standing outside taking pictures, we heard nothing. Now and the
train video it sounds like it's right next door to us.
So I sent it to Jeff Flora, who's a great
audio guy, to have him listen to it and see
what he thinks is going on. Why is this thing
so loud? Because it's never this loud, even when we're
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outside closer to it, it never ever is that loud.
So there's something strange about that, something strange about the
fact that we didn't hear it when we were out there. So, Chanelle,
would you be so kind as to play that tay
now that's the one. So yet now that if I
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was standing out there in the train went by and it
sounded like that, I would hear it. But I didn't
hear it. My husband didn't hear it. So there was
something going on. And I know everybody talks about this
when there's a paranormal event. Oftentimes when you're outside, all
the sound goes dead or anything. You don't hear birds,
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you don't hear insects, you don't hear anything. That's what
it was like. So we were shocked when we heard this. Now,
I did call the train company, which is CSX, and
I asked if they had a train passing through at
that time. And I talked to somebody in the local
office and they said they don't have schedules, so he
has no idea, which I thought was kind of strange.
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Don't you know in your trains are where they are
when they're traveling? Oh no, we don't. So then I
called corporate and I'm going to see if they can
give me some better information. So we'll see. I'm not
done investigating this. It was a lot of fun to
see it. It didn't feeling.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Sure when you said to me the picture of it,
I was in shock and amaze.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But yeah, it's very, very what this was. And in
the video when you play it on a large screen
computer and even a smaller screen, you can see all
of the energy around and coming off this thing. You
can see the photographs. They are on the Facebook page
for Supernatural Girls, and the video is there as well,
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and you can make it larger if you like, on
your own software and let us know what you think.
But quite a few people were interested in it. So well,
let's get to our fabulous guest. Yes, George Lisas. He
is all the way from Cyprus. He is still in Cyprus.
He is calling us and videoing us from Cyprus. Now.
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He's really really an interesting man, and he has a
new book out and this is an important book about manifestation.
There it is okay Ancient Manifestation Secrets and everybody knows.
We're all into manifestation. We want to hear something new,
different and powerful, and we have it for you tonight.
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So George is a spiritual teacher. He is a psychic healer,
Greek pagan priest and the creator of Intuition Mastery School,
the author of Be the Guru, Light Workers, Gotta Work,
Protect Your Light, and Secrets of Greek Mysticism. He is
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the host of The lit Up, light Worker and Can't
Post podcasts. Name one of the top fifty health and
wellness influencers by Health Blog Awards. He regularly teaches workshops
and online courses and again he lives in Cyprus. How
exotic is that? George, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Hello, Patricia and Picky. Thank you so much for having me.
It's lovely to be here.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, it's a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
For sure, great to have you here. So do tell.
How did you get into the manifestation aspect of all
of this?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Oh gosh, I, like most people, I got into conscious
manifestation when the book and the movie The Secret came
out and I was fascinated with like the love attraction,
and I like I wanted to learn how to create
my own life. But like most people as well, once
they get into the love attraction, they realize it's not
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as easy as it looks like. It's not just about
faking until you're making. It's not just about just obsessing
about something and then manifesting it. So I experimented for
a while with so many different practices, and although I
was manifesting successfully with like vision boards and positive affirmations,
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manifestation boxes, scripting, and all the wonderful belts and whistles
of the manifestation community, I felt something was missing. I
felt that the soul was missing from the manifestation practice.
I was manifesting out of a state of ego, like, Okay,
let me see what kind of things can I get,
rather than let me see how it can follow my purpose.
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Let me see how can align my desire as to
what my soul came here to do this lifetime. And
then right about that time, in twenty seventeen, that's when
I transitioned to the religion and the spiritual traditions of
my ancestors, the ancient Greeks, and I became a priest
to Hellenic Polytheism, and I had been a new ager
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for a while before that. I'm like, Okay, let's wonder
what the ancient Greeks like taught about manifestation, because we
hear that it's been practiced since the ancient times. So
I surged into the ancient texts, into the philosophical schools,
and I find out that the ancient Greeks, of course
famously taught about manifestation in a philosophical school in later
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antiquity called her medicism that combine the spiritual tradition of
the ancient Greeks and the ancient Egyptians. So diving into
her medicism, I discovered that it's not just about the
law of attraction. There are more universal laws out there
that we can use to manifest Specifically, there are seven
main universal laws of manifestation. And that's when my manifestation
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practice took a completely different turn.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Wow, well, it sounds like it's more in alignment with
who you are, also your roots.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Exactly, it's aligned to my ancestry. And I've always believed
that when we align our spiritual practice to the practice
over ancestry or ancestries, then we can tap into so
much more wisdom because we have energetic connections connecting us
ancestors to the land we grew up into. And when
we activate those energetic courts, we receive all the wisdom.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Right, So you're seeing a big change. And how you're manifesting,
you're manifesting in alignment with your soul, with your soul's purpose.
Can you give us an example of, say, for example,
something you manifested before and what you manifest today.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, well, let me tell you how I manifested this book, quoth.
I actually wrote this book in twenty twenty one, and
it's only coming out now four years later. So here's
a story. I go to Delphi in Greece and I
book a cottage for ten days. I sit there, facing
the temple of Delphi and channeling essentially this book like
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it's partly research based and partly channeling specific practices, the
energetic practices. I write this book. I'm so excited a
picture to my publisher at the time, and my publisher says,
it's too advanced. People are not ready for this right now.
Why don't you write a book about the Greek gods
and goddessys instead. I'm like, Okay, So I park this
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book and I started researching a new book about the
Greek gods and goddess as Secrets of Greek Mysticism. So
Secrets of Greek Mysticism came out this year as well
in April, and then a few months later I released
this one. What happened in between, right after my publisher
rejected essentially ancient manifestation secrets, I'm like, you know what,
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I'm not gonna let a publisher dictate like when I'll
publish this book. I'm just gonna I Like. There's a
quote by Chris Jenner. She says if someone says, no,
you're talking to the wrong person. I'm like, well, wrong publisher.
Then I'm going to research and find out like the
right publisher for this book. And it's so ended up
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being that this book came out after Secrets of Greek
Mysticism that I wrote later, actually, and it was all
divinely planned. It was all divine timing there, because my
audience had to read Secrets of Greek Mysticism first to
learn about the ancient Greeks as an introduction before they're
ready to embrace ancient manifestation secrets. That's essentially a more
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advanced book on a very specific niche within the ancient
Greek religion and spirituality. So how is this manifestation the
new way of manifesting? I work with all of the
laws of the universe. It wasn't just the law of
attraction of obsessing over something and if it doesn't manifest, oh,
I got it wrong. I realized that there is also
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another law called the love cause and effect. And the
love cause and effect teaches that there are many causes
in the manifestation of something. One of the causes is
our vibrational frequency, how we think and feel, but there
are other causes as well, such us carme contracts, CARMEI, curses, timing,
collective intentionality, our life purpose, our sole purpose, UFOs. There's
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so many different kind of energies that are just coming
in to affect manifestation. So if we only expect that
it's just a law attraction, and then if it doesn't manifest,
we got it wrong. Then we miss the point there
and we'll lose our opportunities. So that's like a fun story,
very meta kind of story of how this book came
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to be.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It is a wonderful story. And but here's the thing
I know. With The Secret, I found it very disappointing
because it didn't work for a lot of people, and
it seems like there's got to be a better way,
and I think you may have found it. But it
also for most people it can't be complicated.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's like, is there some simple one, two, three, four
or five step steps that you can tell us about?
Kind of I know we need to read the book
obviously to get the whole spirit of this, but what
can you tell people tonight as you're coming into holidays
and hopefully wish is coming true? Why would you tell
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our audience about this? How do you do it?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yes? Yes, let me rephrase something. It's not complicated. It's
complex and there is. It's different in the sense that
when you know the full story, it can be more complex,
but not complicated because then you know. So let me
share the five step process, the five step manifestation process
essentially that I teach in the book. So the traditional
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process taught in The Secret and by many other teachers
is ask, believe, receives. Ask for what you want, believe
it by faking it, and then the universe will deliver,
and then you'll receive it. My process is the other
way around. So instead of starting with ask, we start
with step number one, raise your vibration. That essentially has
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to do with aligning yourself with your soul's desire, aligning
yourself with the frequency of source, the frequency of your soul.
Why because only when you align yourself to the frequency
of who you truly are can you receive the desires
that you're meant to manifest that your soul chose to
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manifest before you were born. In your pre birth plan.
You had specific intentionality about the lessons and the karmic
contracts that you came here to manifest. So when you
first align yourself with who you really are in the
vibrational frequency of your source, then you find your life purpose.
And I guide people through a process of identifying what
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their live purpose is and then receiving those specific desires.
And then we move into step number two, clarify your desires,
finding your life purpose and finding desires that are aligned
with that live purpose. Now, what is our life purpose?
It is a very specific mission that our soul came
here to fulfill in this lifetime. And it's very specific,
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and it's something that only we can't fulfill nobody else
can do it. So when our desires are aligned to that,
it's so much easier to manifest them versus trying to
manifest something that it's in misalignment with our live purpose.
So we raise our vibration. We've clarified our desires. Step
number three, release your limiting beliefs. Popular manifestation tea teachings
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say that focus on the positive, ignore the negative, and
that's the most important thing because negative thoughts and emotions
block manifestation BS. Because yes, it's important to be positive,
but when a negative emotion or a thought or a
belief has manifested within you because you've been traumatized in
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your childhood, because you've lived life and you've had negative experience,
says you cannot hide or suppress or avoid the limiting belief.
It is within you. You have to do something about it.
You can deny it, you can avoid it, but it's
going to show up at some point and it's likely
going to sabotage something in your life, so you might
as well face it rather than avoiding it through toxic
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positivity and spiritual bypassing. So in the book, I teach
because I'm also I have a degree a master's in
psychology and I'm a trained trauma specialist. I work with
different cognitive practices to like dealing with limiting beliefs and emotions.
So I teach an eye movement process integral eye movement
therapy that's all about processing negative emotions and beliefs, not
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denying them. So that's step number three. Step number four
nurture the energy of your desires. This is where it
gets woo woo wooh. I believe that every desire is
like an orb has an energy, and we are the
hosts that the desires choose us. So when they come
into our energy field, we can invite them in. We
can open the door and say come in, let me
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take care of you. And we nurture the energy of
our desires by sending them to our own energy, by
creating energy cords that connect them with people with entities
including like star seats and aliens who can help in
their manifestation, connecting them with different companies and people that
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can become coperative components to their manifestation. And then step
number four, after we've nurtured the frequency and the energy
of those desires, is we take inspired action. Because the
world doesn't change sitting in meditation pillows all day long.
We gotta take action. Many spiritual people are like, oh,
I'm just like raising the vibration and raising the vibration
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of the world, and I'm like, no, you're not. You're
raising the vibration of your room. To truly create change
in the world, you gotta take action. You got to
get out of your room into the real world. Do
things like this podcast for example, so we can bring
like some change. So this is my simple five step
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well complex but not complicated, five step process to manifesting.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, it sounds wonderful and easy to do. And I
love the therapy. The I'm movment therapy, I think is
extremely powerful and I wish more therapists would use it
because talk therapy on its own really doesn't do it.
You need to engage the body, the brain. You just
can't talk your way out of it. So I think
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that that's a great therapy to use. Another like it,
I'm I'm a therapy better.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yeah, I like tapping as well. I used tapping, I
used journaling. There are so many fopulous practices we can use,
but I wanted to include something new, something fresh, because
there's so much information out there about tapping, which is great.
But the reason I came upon like eye movement therapy
is a few years ago I had a nervous breakdown
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where traumas from my childhood, childhood traumas and sexual traumas
got triggered and I couldn't deal with them with my
traditional tools, and I didn't know where to turn, and
somebody told me about EMDR, which is like the Ani
movement process that's like peer reviewed and currently the most
effective process to dealing with PTSD. This process was drawing
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from EMDR but also combining and LP in different either things.
It was called i EMT Integral Eye Movement Therapy. So
in four sessions, I dealt with and processed so much
trauma and I discovered a whole new version of myself.
So I'm like, I got to know how this works.
So I trained as a partitioner and then as an
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advanced practitioner, and I actually got permission from the creator,
the founder of the process, to include it in the book.
So it's a really powerful process to quickly change your identity.
Whatever we make statements like let's start with I that
have pronounced I me myself for example, I'm not good enough.
That's a common one that many people have. Whenever there's
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an eye there, that means we've learned to identify as
someone who feels that way. I've learned to identify someone
who's not good enough, for example. And then we when
we start asking questions, which is part of the process.
When you think of eye that's not good enough? Where
is eye in the body, because the body keeps a
score as we know, right I is in the heart
for example, how old is eye in the heart and
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what's happening around five year old eye in the heart.
Then the body starts revealing those traumatic memories and those
experiences that taught us to think and feel that way.
And with the eye movements, you reprogram the mind to
think in a different way. And that's how you transmute
your limiting beliefs rather than avoid them because you're afraid
they're going to manifest them.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Right, well, it makes perfect sense, you know. I'm sure
you know they have researched a lot of lottery and
they get the big win. But you go visit them
three years later, they have no money left. Yeah, you know,
the vibration didn't hold over time, so it was a
match for that one moment of getting the right ticket,
but there was nothing to sustain that vibration. So yeah,
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you're so right. You have to work on releasing whatever's
in your way. So that's a very powerful technique that
you're using with your clients. Now, how can people reach
you if they want to work with you on these things?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
True?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So my website George leads us dot com, I have
like one on one sessions that I work with people,
and well, to get the book, they can go to
Ancient Manifestation Secrets dot com and actually have a free
workshop that I'm giving away to everybody who gets the book.
It's a past live regression to access your past lives
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where you had mustard manifestation and retrieve those skills in
your current lifetime. I use past live regard in an
empowering way, not just like to see what you were
in a past life. I use it to heal past
life traumas, to find your life purpose and to retrieve skills, wisdom,
and knowledge.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's wonderful. What a nice gift for everybody. Gosh, that's tremendous. Well,
now tell us do you call upon the Greek gods
to help with manifestation. Do you integrate that energy you could?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I teach manifestation with the Greek gods and goddessays in
my book Secrets of Greek Mysticism, and specifically I talk
about having a human ritual and a full moon ritual,
and of course those are ancient rituals. It's not just
a new age thing. I always say new age is
very very very very very old age. It goes all
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the way back. Okay. So the ancient Greeks had a
moon calendar, essentially a moon mouth like lunar months. So
the first day of the month was a new moon
and they called that Numidia. That is the name the
Greek word for the new moon, Numinia, and it was
dedicated to god, Apollo and the household gods, and it
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was a sacred day, the most sacred day of all
days of the month. Pludorg said that the Nouminia is
the holiest of days. No governmental or state things would
take place. People would just stay home, clear their altars,
clean their homes, set their intentions, and just celebrate the
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household gods Hestia, Hermes, zeus Hekaiti and an Apollo. And
then every single almost every single day of the moon
cycle was dedicated to different God. So we're like, so
we think we're so spiritual when we do a new
moon ritual and a full moon ritual, but think about
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doing a ritual every single day of the moon cycle
because it's dedicated to God. So imagine the connection they
had to the moon. And it shows you that the
moon has power because it has a frequency that affects
the earth. We know that it draws like water and
it causes us, like our emotions to be more intense,
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for example, So there is a different frequence that the
moon brings. And then all the way to the full moon,
where the ancient Greeks practice, like again, rituals connecting with
nature and releasing and surrendering. So in the book, I
have a human ritual and a full moon ritual calling
upon Selini, the Greek goddess of the moon, as well
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as Dihi, goddess fortune. Essentially that's the Roman equivalent for
tuna fortune. She is the goddess of luck. And I
use sacred practices to bring the gods into the altar
to help us manifest specific desires. But what I do
in ancient manifestation secrets, I don't talk about the gods,
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goddess is. I wanted it to be completely like, non denominational.
I talk about the seven laws of the universe and
how to manifest through those universal principles. Essentially, what is that.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I don't mean to have you exposed every great thing
that's in your book, but in the seven laws that
you're talking about, what do you feel is a lot
that most people either don't know about or they break
all the time and it hurts their manifestation capability.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, now, let's briefly go through all the laws. Just
understand what they're all about, because I think that's really
important because we're only talking about the love attraction love attraction,
love attraction, low attraction. And I hear people say love
attraction is the most powerful law in the universe, and
I'm like, it's not. It's not more powerful, for example,
than gravity. You cannot fall upwards, however hard you try
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to visualize that, you're only going to fall downwards, because
there are universal laws, lots of biology and physics that
are not more power that sorry, that are more powerful
than the love attraction. So the first one is and
these are the hermetic laws of the universe The first
one is the law of mentalism. The love of mentalism
teaches that the all is mind, the universe is mental. Essentially,
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anything we manifest starts with an e thought, a mental idea,
essentially unintention, So we intend for something to happen, and
that's These laws, by the way, are at the basis
of all creation. When you think about anything that's created,
it's created from an intention, an idea to create something.
And then the second law is the love correspondence, saying
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that as above, so below, us below so above. Very cliche.
We all know that it comes from ancient hermeticism. The
love correspondence teach us that there is correspondence and therefore
communication in the different planes of existence. We have the
physical plane of existence, the mental plane of existence, and
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the spiritual plane of existence. Different beings existing in the
different planes, and there is correspondence between the meaning we
can receive guidance and help from our spirit, guides, from
star seats, from ascended masters, from God's and God. It
says we can receive help. It's not just us, We're
not alone. The third law is a law of vibration,
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which is known as a law of attraction, which says
that nothing rests, everything moves, everything vibrates. We all know
that in the sense that everything has a vibrational frequency.
And when you match your own vibrational frequency with the
vibrational frequency of already having what you want, you draw
it into your life. That is a law vibration slash attraction.
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And then the fourth law is a low of polarity.
The law of polarity teaches that everything is dual. Everything
has polls, everything has its pair of opposites. Essentially, whatever
it is your experience. And let's say, for example, you're depressed,
you have access to the opposite emotion or or the
opposite state because there is a stick. Think of this stick,
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this scale that has two poles, and you are somewhere
in this scale. Wherever you are on the scale, you
have access to every single point on that scale. So
if you are experiencing illness, you have access to health.
If you're experiencing poverty, you have access to abundance. Knowing
this is powerful because you know you can move up
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the scale or down the scale consciously. The fifth law
is a law of rhythm, teaching that everything flows out
and in, everything has its tides. All things rise and
fall Basically, the law of rhythm says that imagine the
spectrum that we talked about, Okay, the scale, and there
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is a pendulum, and the pendulum swings back and forth.
That's a love rhythm. It's a love rhythm in life.
Our economy goes through a boom and a recession. We
go through ice ages and then warmer periods of time.
We have days when we feel good and days when
we feel bad. It's just the redom of life. And
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it just flows like a pendulum going from one side
of the scale toward the other side of the scale,
but not necessarily in the same degree. It doesn't go
all the way to the pole and then all the
way to the other pole of that scale. That means
that we can, with practices that are teach in the book,
rise above the downward swing of the pendulum when we're
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feeling negative, for example, and rise ourselves above that so
we're feeling more positive and sustain our positive state of
feeling even if the swing is swinging towards the negative side.
The sixth law is a love cause and effect, my
favorite one and the most applicable in the sense that
it says that every cause has its effect every effect
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has its cause. Now, Love of Attraction teaches that it's
the goal that the law of attraction and a vibrational frequency,
it's the single cause to our effect, the manifestation, and
therefore our thoughts and our emotions manifest our reality. Period
I disagree with that. I believe that, yes, our thoughts
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and emotions do manifest our reality, but there are other
things in place as well. We have karmic contracts, meaning
decisions we made before we were born about what we
wanted to experience in this lifetime. To our soul, chose
to experience certain lessons that we cannot escape that are
faded to happen. The opportunities of them are faded to happen.
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Of course, we have free will, and we can choose
to avoid a lesson if we want to and not
learn it. But we're gonna come back and learn it
in a different lifetime, so why go through that struggle.
There are karmic contracts in place. There are karmic curses
in place, meaning there are psychic attacks that spun lifetimes.
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Someone cursed us in a previous lifetime and we were
dealing with the effect of it in this lifetime. We
have carbic relationships and therefore contracts we have with other
people we need to fulfill. We have our sole purpose,
a purpose fulfilled over a series of lifetimes. We cannot
just jump to a different purpose. We our soul has
the purpose, we need to follow it. And also we
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have collective manifestation. We all manifested COVID together. Nobody avoided that.
Nobody was such a strong manifestor to not manifest living
in a world with COVID. So there is collective intentionality
into playing into place as well. And then finally, we
have the love of gender that says that gender is
in everything. Everything has its musculine and feminine principles. Now,
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gender in this state is a process of creation, the
process of gendering, and essentially the musculine and feminine energies
are the energies of creation. Musculine energy being more forward
taking action, active rigid structure, and then feminine energy being
more about receiving, trusting, structured activities that are both needed
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in creating anything. We cannot just work work, work, work, work.
We need to work and rest, receive guidance, use that
guidance to take inspired action. So this is a quick
summary of the seven Laws of the Universe.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, thank you for sharing that. This is all in
your book. Again the title of your book, please tell
us and I'll have Chanell put it back up on
the screen.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
It is Ancient manifestation Secrets.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yes, yes, beautiful cover by the way, Yes, thank.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
You, thank you. I designed it.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Ah, of course you did. It feels like you. It
feels like you're a look at me.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I know.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Really it's perfect beautiful. So when you work with people
a lot, it sounds like and you come across people
who are sabotaging their own manifestation process, what do you
find again? Is the most common staboteur for people that I.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Don't deserve something. I am not good enough, I'm not
read enough. I need to read another book, I need
to take another course, I need to go to university.
I need to do this. Other people are better, so
we after we've exhausted the ice statements, we can go
to ooh, other people are better than me. Other people
have already done that. And I'm like, if if someone
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like me that English is my second language. Up until
I was fifteen years old, I didn't speak English Monish
to have an international career as an author and have
five books published. Then anybody can do anything. It's just
a matter of believing it. I mean, within within the boundaries.
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Because something I teach in the book as well is
that we cannot manifest everything we want because certain things
are not meant to manifest. We cannot fly, for example,
we cannot change the color of our eyes at will.
There are cer things that have to work within universal laws.
But to a great degree, we can manifest many things,
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especially when those things are aligned to our live purpose.
That's why I really encourage people. Don't just manifest out
of your ego to say, oh, I would just want
this car. I mean, you can have the car, but
don't obsess so much on the car, and then it's
not manifesting, but you're resisting it. If the universe is
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pointing you to a different direction and telling you, you
know what, focus on this because that's aligned to what
you came here to be and do.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Oh it makes sense, total sense. And it also makes
more room to incorporate your spiritual path, which there wasn't
much room for that with the secret and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
So yeah, but your was very one flighted.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yes, yeah it really was. But you're also psychicealer so
tell us about this gift that you have.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
So I don't see it as a gift. I did
as a skill because I believe that everybody can do it.
Everybody is born psychic. People are born in different degrees psychic,
so we all have talents and things we've been developing
over many lifetimes. But anybody can learn it. Because I
don't feel I was naturally gifted. As a kid. You
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hear these stories like with like people like oh, when
I was a kid, I my grundma used to visit me,
and I saw all these spirits and I couldn't fall
asleep because all these spirits were chasing me. I'm like
I slept peacefully as a kid. I had no spirits
trying to contact me. I did not see aliens. I
don't see anything. It was just I worked my ass off.
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I worked my ass off to develop my psychic abilities
and do this work. So I tend to work with
people who feel like they're not intuitive when they're not psychic,
and they want to learn, so I have tools to
help them like get there. So I one of the
works of the types of work I do in my
intuition master at school is I trade intuitives and psychic
so on how to do this. So essentially the way
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that I work as a psychic killer is I scan
people's energy field, their chakras, their aura, and I'm able
to identify blocks. Sometimes there are blocks from this lifetime,
whether there are traumas for example, or limiting beliefs, or
they could be related to their past lifetimes like carmi
curses and contracts, connections. They have to like people and places,
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psychic attacks, spirit attaching to their energy field and siphoning
away their energy, demonic attacks. So there are so many
things that can essentially lower our vibrational frequency. And my
book Protect Your Light was all about that energetic protection
and how to protect your energy field from all the
spirits and all the people around you. And then after
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we identify all that's stuck in the energy field, then
we use different practices to clear them, leads them from
their energy field. And that's what I do in my
private sessions. I do like psychic clearing sessions, but what
I wanted to do because the next step to clearing
is aligning. So what I do in Ancient Manifestation Secrets,
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I still guide people to work with their energy field,
but Instead of clearing things, you're planting things. You're planting
your desires in your energy field. You're connecting your desires
and your body and your energy field with people with entities,
with things, frequencies essentially that can help those desires manifest
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because it's so easy to talk about, Oh, I have
so many things I need to clear, like the traumas
and everything. Great, do the clearing. I teach the clearing
as well. But then when you're a blank energetic canvas,
what do you do with that? When you have a
beautiful garden with a perfect soil, what do you do
with it? You plant seeds and you grow them. So
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that's what we do in this book, we grow those seats.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, yeah, you're giving people a whole new way of
approaching this, which is wonderful because you know, when we
have this blank slate or this beautiful garden waiting to
be landscaped, it's really tempting for people to go back
into old habits and do the same old thing all
over again. So negative self talk, which I hear that
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all the time. You know, people in my age group,
they're always talking about not being able to remember, not
being able to get up in the morning easily, and
it's like it becomes a hamster wheel reinforcement.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Very cheap.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
And that's why we need to have tools to be
able to handle it and to process things rather than
avoiding them. We're just so used to avoiding. I see
these all the time in reality TV because that's my
reflection of reality, like Real Housewives, for example. As soon
as someone starts crying, I'm like, oh no, don't cry.
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Don't cry. Don't cry, Like why not cry, Like get
it out of your system, like let yourself express your emotions.
I'm all about crying. When my clients cry, first of all,
I'm like, thank goodness, I did my job. Well, they're
releasing something, yes, that's true, and I'm like I pause them,
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not to stop them from crying. I'm like, please go
get a tissue. You don't want to ruin your makeup,
but cry.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah. You know when I worked with years ago, I
used to say, you get a gold star for this.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah. Yeah. We try to block out feelings or we
try to weaponize feelings in our culture, and neither way
it is helpful and it doesn't work. So it has
to be a power with situation, not a power over
and it's not something people are used to.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yes, And I feel that we're afraid of our negative
emotions because we think that they're going to manifest something.
That's the number one fear people have, like when they manifest, like, oh,
unthink this, unfeel this, because it's going to manifest. I'm like,
you cannot unthink it or unfeel it. It's all a
part of you, So you might as well release it.
Because when we express our emotions, we don't manifest them.
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We release them, We acknowledge them, and then when they're released.
This is like the golden statement here. All the negative
emotion wants is to be heard and acknowledged. After it's
heard and acknowledged, it loses its power, it transcends, and
then you're able to feel something.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Better, right right, And that's the key. So then when
you get your whole garden replanted the way you want it,
it's a lot easier to maintain that way. And you
can notice when you're letting weeds grow and you're letting
these weeds take over again, Oh there are those thoughts
again that I don't deserve it or whatever, and it's
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polluting my garden. So it's nice to have that imagery
to work with too, And it's important.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
No, it's important to know that our limiting beliefs and
our issues will be coming up over and over again,
and that's okay because there are different layers of them
that are released each time we approach them. People are
telling me, Oh, I've been dealing with this like my
entire life. Is it like still here? Like I've been
trying to release this limiting belief for so long? Why
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is it still like bothering me? Because if you're releasing
different layers of it, and that's okay. Like it takes
so long to like develop certain limiting beliefs, it may
take us long to release them or not. It doesn't
have to. But sometimes our limiting beliefs and our issues
are multi layered, and sometimes they go beyond this lifetime.
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I feel that a lot, a lot of the traumas
that we have in this lifetime are collateral damage from
past life traumas. That's what my experience has shown me.
And because I combine like psychology, like academic with spirituality
and energy work, I coined a term PPTSD Past live
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PTSD because when I take people in their past lives
and they have traumatic memories. I'm like, Okay, let's work
on those past life memories with like IMTI movements and
we heal PPTSD and that heals their PTSD in this lifetime.
It's all interconnected.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yes, there was a psychiatrist that wrote a book about that,
I believe, and I can't think of his name off
the top of my head, but his book was all
about that, that people were living out a lot of
the reactions that they still held to past life experiences.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Yes, it's Brian Wise true. Yes, yes, I think it's
doctor Brian Weiss, Yes, which I love. Yeah, he did
excellent work on popularizing and bringing past live regression to
the mainstream.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yes, yes, yeah, we need to have a wider perspective
on life. It's not just this life. They were connected
with so many other dimensions and reality, so we have
no idea really what we're connected to. So it's nice
to have provided this book and you also do workshops
and everything else to help people to expand this so
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they have more sense of power and control over what
is going on in their lives. You know, it's hard
to imagine for some people, but a trauma from a
past life can affect everything that's happening. Now, do you
have an example of that you could give us with
something that you exposed for the client.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
Oh gosh, yes, I mean so many stories and so
many examples. One that comes up currently, I had a
client who's had a very traumatic experience in this lifetime
where her dad was essentially like a murderer and she
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would bring her like to see the dead bodies. Oh
my god, and when she was a kid, and she
was traumatized by all these images of like chopped up bodies. Essentially,
it was like it was intense even for me to
like experience and like guide the whole session. But then
when we did a past live regression on that, we
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identified that there was past life where she had a
complicated relationship with her dad, and therefore she kept relieving
that in this lifetime. So there are so many ways
that our current lifetime can be interconnected with our past lifetime,
and it's not easy to explore that. And I don't
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think it's necessary to understand exactly why something we where's
something we experienced it's coming from. It's good to get
an idea of that, But when when it comes to
like the negative stuff, I'm like, it's just stuff, and
it's just leaving, and let's process and let's move through it.
Let's not obsess over the negative, release it. Learn enough
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to understand it and process it and transmute it. But
then let's focus on the positive. Let's move into something else.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yes, and there's a lot of new science that's come out.
I know, Joe Despens's work really features that that says,
if you keep going over the past, this is what happened,
and this is how horrible it was, that nothing will change.
It'll trap you. That's the box that you live in. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
Yes, because that's the other side of the of the
game where spiritual people get obsessed with the inner work
and they are just digging for things like heal And
I'm like, if something is ready to be healed, it's
going to show up. You don't have to search for it.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
That's true, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, this is so fascinating
talking with you, George. Yes, it is great stuff, really great.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
I mean, and you're so generous. You created all these
wonderful books, and the most recent one that we're talking
about tonight, but also that you're offering a free workshop
to people who buy your book and that they could
have this guided session with you. Now, obviously you're in Cyprus,
so you work with people by Skype or by zoom
or how do you do this?
Speaker 4 (50:40):
I work one hundred percent online, so I work via zoom.
I was actually recently in New York City and I
taught at the Omega Institute. I taught like a five
day certification course on like psychic killing, which I was
so excited about. And I hope to be able to
travel more and do more work in the States as well,
because I'm really feel the pool.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah, well for us, Yeah, it'd be great. There's a
place here Cropolo and maybe.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
Oh yes, oh it's definitely on my vision board.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yes, oh god, yeah, Cloud, you'd have a lot of
fun there. It's very beautiful.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Yah, yeah, I would love to.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yes, although I can't imagine anything compares to where you
live now in Cyprus.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
I mean it's beautiful. It's like a mermaid island and well,
according to the mythoph diety was born here, so with
like the island of beauty and sex and all of that.
So I think it's very idyllic and nights and warm
throughout the year, which I love. But yeah, yeah, I
love it.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
That's fantastic. So again, Chanel, if you would please put
the book back up because I know we have to
wrap up pretty soon Ancient Manifestation Secrets, and you can
go to Ancient Manifestation Secrets dot com to find out
where to buy the book and also how to sign
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up for this free workshop that George is offering to everybody.
This is so exciting, great stuff, and I love how
you incorporated everything your own lineage and more with this.
You really put love power into this whole piece that
you've created. This is great.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
I really feel passionate about like bringing the ancient wisdom
into the modern times. And because I'm a native Greek
and a native Greek priest to hell Anic Polytheesium, I
think it's also like part of my purpose to help
bring that information like to the English language because a
lot of the text have not been translated to English.
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Oh so I'm reading in Greek and then translating and
then bring this information forward. So I see that like
my life's purpose to do this.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
That is really unfortunate for elth It is incredible. Yes,
thank you for devoting so much I'm and energy to
this well, George, unfortunately we've run out of time. We
could talk to you all night about all this, but
we would love to have you back. So I know
you must have another book on the way, so please
keep us.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
Boy, always writing your books.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
Go well. Thank you again, and everybody, we will be
back next week with another wonderful show and happy Thanksgiving.
Enjoy your turkey or whatever it is that you're eating
for the holiday. Enjoy it all. Enjoy your family, your friends, dogs, cats, everybody.
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Let's make it a big connection this holiday.
Speaker 3 (53:39):
Oh definitely a safe one, yes.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
So until then, everybody, we will see you on the
Blue Highway. Good Night, good night, good bye.