ANTIAGING TREATMENTS - HEALTHY HAIR & SKIN - 2025 AND BEYOND

There are thousands of anti-aging treatments out there - do any of them really work? Expert Melanie Elaine joins us to tell us what works and what doesn’t!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Our angels, ghosts and Bigfoot. Oh why, it's just another
night for Supernatural girls and real stories, real answers to
life's biggest supernatural mysteries. And now for another exciting interview
with paranormal experts from this world and others. Here's your host,
paranormal researcher Patricia Baker.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
On the One the Only Supernatural Girls.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome everyone, Happy New Year's twenty twenty five, and we
are glad to be back. Oh my goodness, yes, yes,
So I'm your host, Patricia Baker, and I'm here year
with my co host PK to start the year off
right in Supernatural Girls. So PK, let's start with you.
What's going on in Tucson and what's going on with

(01:10):
the numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Let's just take a look at the year twenty twenty
five happens to be a nine year ending a lot
of things. This is a year to let go of
what no longer works for you. Don't bother trying to
put a band aid on it. It's not going to work.
So it's a nine year and the way you can
find out what you and yourself are personally going through,
add your month and day together, reduce it to a

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single number, and that'll tell you what personal year you're
in this year, because with the nine it doesn't fit anymore.
Let it go, give yourself a good opportunity. So January
is a one month, so it's about fresh starts, new beginnings.
Doesn't matter what your birth personal stuff is, feelings of
independence and being in charge is going to be there.

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And this will of course vary by what your personal years.
But add your month and day together, reduce it to
a single digit and you'll know what your personal year
is for twenty twenty five. Great, So for a quick
peek at it. If it's at a one, it's new beginnings.
If it's a two, it's about partnership. If it's a three,

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it's about three activity. If it's a four, it's about
work and details. If a five, it's about change and
making changes. A six is about family issues, a seven
it's about learning. Even legal issues doesn't necessarily have to
be good or bad, but nonetheless, and if it's eight,
it's about being in charge and being in control, because

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eight's always want to be in charge. And if it's nine,
you're more concerned about the world at large, what you
can do for other people. So that's a real brief
get together of you and life one oh one excellent.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
So if you want everybody you have to have your
own personal reading with PK. You can contact her at
Patricia Kirkman dot com. You can also find her on
the Supernatural Girls' website as well as lots of wonderful
anti aging products and technologies and things like that. We've

(03:13):
got some wonderful liposomal vitamins. Take a look there. These
are not our products, but we are affiliates and have
negotiated discounts for our listeners, so you can get that
if you're interested, and just go there. The healthy line
product mats. I highly recommend those. I keep promising I
will put the link up and I will, so that

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will happen this week, so you can check those out
as well, and we will get you a discount on those. So,
my goodness, such an exciting year I feel we have coming.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
It's going to be fabulous because if you just stop
and think about it, every month of this year is
going to give us an opportunity for growth and to
eliminate but no longer works. It's our choice. Yeah, Oh,
think about taking that diddy bag, fill it up with
garbage you don't want anymore. As I say, drive down
the road, drop your window down and throw it out

(04:06):
the window and let it go. Who cares where? Just
don't take it home anymore.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's time to say goodbye. Yeah. I agree, we're all
in the world. But here's the thing. We wanted to
start off our shows this year with supernatural health. And
what better way to start than with our guests tonight,
Because we all like to look good, feel good, have

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healthy skin, healthy hair, et cetera. And we are being
bombarded with products we should try. Try this, try that.
It worked for me, it'll work for you. And none
of them are inexpensive and not many of them work
at all. So I thought, and you thought, it would

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be a great time to bring an expert onto the show.
And we have a fabulous expert tonight. She is the CEO.
Oh of youlu are ex and she's going to explain
everything we need to know about anti aging treatments for
hair and skin and more so Melanie Elaine, welcome to

(05:14):
the show.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
That Hello, Hello, hi everyone, Thank you so much for
having me. I'm so thrilled to be here and really
honored that you would invite me as your guest.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Thank you well have you?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yes, it is our pleasure. We have been complaining about
our hair, skin, nails, you name it, and so it's
so wonderful to have you here to talk about all
of these things. But first, how did you get into
this business?

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Well, you know what, it is really consistent with the
theme of this show. It was about what no longer works. Okay,
So it's a beautiful way to begin the new year,
and it's consistent with this year, which is I will
tell the story. If it's boring, I'm sorry, but this
is really what happened. So this is my hair crazy,

(06:02):
it's curly. I don't care. I'm sixty two and I
still got it. I've got my hair and teeth, and
for that I'm very grateful. It's always like that. When
I'm about five years ago, you know, you get the
perfect storm menopause aging, You're less efficient and absorbing nutrients.
And my hair wouldn't grow past here. It was falling out.

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I had ball patches, and so I'm very geeky. So
I started to research and I went to not one,
not two, but three dermatologists. Oh my, okay, okay, yes,
I am OCD in case you had any doubt, you
confirmed it. That's it. And you know, I'm the sort

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of person that walks in with a list of questions.
And I'm very blessed. I have a doctorate and a master's.
I am so blessed with a great education. But the
thing that I'm really blessed with is curiosity. So I
went in and I said, well, what about blood? What
about all these They didn't take a single test, really,

(07:09):
not even the first one. It's gonna sound a little
bit like the three Little pigs, No disrespect, respect met,
but it's kind of interesting. So the first one was
one of the best germs surgeons, plastic surgeons, hair guys
here in Phoenix. And I walked in and looked at him.
He wasn't really in very good shape. Are they are

(07:31):
like that good? Okay, he's I was sitting down. He
walked in, didn't look at my hair, didn't take a test.
He said, you've got an autoimmune disease and you're gonna
lose your hair in two years. He'll be bold unless
you take my prp.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
I was like, hmmm, See, they don't know that women
are smart. They don't know, right, So I said, I'm
very polite because we're all a nice girls trained to
be very police. Okay, well tell me which autoimmune disease
is it, and tell me how did you diagnose that?
What was the testing? I don't recall taking a blood test,
and I wasn't being sarcastic, but well, he's like, you

(08:09):
need to take it or you need to you need
the PRP. It's a thousand dollars your treatment out you go.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
So he told me I had something called scarring alopecia.
Scarring alopecia is when your hair falls out and the
the follicle scars, so you can't revive it. It's a
very serious condition. So I leave there thinking, oh my gosh,
of course start reaching scar you know, start researching scarring alopecia,
and freaked myself out.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh my god, yeah girl, yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
And so I called him back and I said, you know,
I have scot some follow up questions. I'd like to
talk to him about this. They wouldn't give me another
appointment and they wouldn't trying to call. Okay, no problem,
you want to sell PRP. So I went to the
next one. Now she was not cosmetic at all, because
I said to myself, I'm going to go to somebody
who's just, you know, really treating serious conditions. Problem with that,

(09:05):
when I walked into her office, there are people with
super serious skin diseases that they're very sick or possibly
dying from skin cancers, et cetera. So when I walked
in and said, you know, my hair sitting, She's like,
here's some rogain, some vitamins. Go. So the pendulum swung

(09:25):
too far the other way. So I went from cosmetic
to serious. Only come here if your health.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Is in risk.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Okay, right. So then I realized, okay, I think I'm
on my own here. So I started to research, and
I put together a protocol of six tests that I
was going to ask them to do. The Other thing
I did was I put a protocol of nutrients. I
had followed doctor Nicholas Paricone the Paracne Prescription. Remember that book.

(09:54):
Oh yeah, well I was the one who executed on that.
I would have little Remember how he said, put your
own vitamin protocol together? Yes, and you I cut, and
I paste and I you know the whole thing. And
I had these little, precious little bundles of vitamins in
little baggies that I did for years. I had, I
gave my kids to put them together, and everyone's you know,

(10:16):
I was ahead of my time. This is like twenty
five years ago. Other one's like, you know, you're crazy, right,
I've said, yep, I him, but it worked for years.
Got away from it, it did. I got away from it.
And so as I was sitting there researching, I went, oh,
I kind of used to do this in doctor paracom.
Why did I stop? You know that happens you're doing

(10:37):
something and you just you run out or you just
stopped using it for no good reason.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
So I started to think, hmmm, don't put a whole
spreadsheet together. And when I started reaching reresearching supplements and
the hair, there's a critical factor that no one tells you,
which is the vitals are going to take first. You
could buy a thousand hair vitamins. None of it's going
to get to your hair, if your respiratory system, if

(11:06):
your brain needs those be vitamins. No one tells you that.
So I said, hmm, following in doctor Paricone's footsteps, what
would my own protocol look like? So I made a
spreadsheet feed the vitals anyoxidants, ashwaganda as an adaptogen, alphalapolic
acid reserve trol MSM turmeric, and I put together my

(11:28):
whole doctor paracone type vitamin for me. So I put
the spreadsheet together and I went to my third little Piggy,
my third terrmatologist, and she was wonderful. She performed all
the tests that I asked her to perform, and I
can go into those later, so people have a list.

(11:49):
And it came out that all I had was androgenic alopecia,
which basically means you're getting older and you're changing, but
there's a lot you can do with with it. You're
not stuck with the balding.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Right.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
This was m Oh, there's so much you can do
with androgenic alopecia. Did not tell you? She again says
the same thing. Here's some rogain, here's some vitamins, are
eleven twelve ingredients. But not enough, I said, but wait,
these hair vitamins. What about feeding the body? What about
those vitals? What about the antioxidant, what about the hormone balance?

(12:24):
What about the stress relief? Oh? Well, you know, okay,
no problem. So I was grateful that she did those
testing you know, blood tests, pull tasks, examine the followicle,
the whole bit. So then I started to put together
my own little baggies and vitamins again just like doctor
Perico tatist. And it started working. But I wasn't satisfied

(12:46):
with the over the counra monoxidal. It made my head itch,
my hair dry out, everything was greasy. So I went
on the internet. I went on YouTube, and I started
to create my own formulations because that's what geeks do.
And I had added a little this, a little that,
experimented with it, and lo and behold, this is the

(13:09):
hair I had when I was thirty. It's frizzy, it's crazy,
it's out of control, but I don't care.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
You got a lot of it.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Ye take.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Used to it, thank you, but I'm just like, I'm
happy to. Hair is forty percent of the identity, so
I feel good and it's wonderful. So then it was
working so crazy. Well, people would say, did you get extensions.
I'm like, no, it's my hair. No, those are extensions.

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I'm like, no, pull my hair, kiss me hers, but
pull my hair. And people started asking me, can you
help me? Can you make that for me. No, I
can't make pharmaceuticals for other people in my kitchen. I
can do what I're owned to myself, but I can't
cook it up. So we started with the supplements.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Okay, and what.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Basically, this is how I explain it. You take this
whole you know, this big basket, a junk you got
on your counter Yeah, uh huh. I put it all
in one bottle, ah synergestically because this is annoying. So
they went through a friend of the family who's the
supplement brilliant supplement manufacturer, and I said, why did they
do this? Why don't they do this? And he goes,

(14:22):
because they can't get you to buy ten bottles. So
we worked with him and his team for about six
months to make sure that this formula was synergistically designed.
What does that mean. It means things aren't going to
counteract each other, things aren't going to conflict. So we
started with the vitamins on Amazon and they're wonderful. But

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then they kept asking me for the concoction I was
using on my head.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, the topical.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
And because a lot of reasons.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
If I can just interject for a moment, yes, I
hear complaints all the time from the men I know
that are using minoxidol in the higher percentages, and they
complain about the same thing you mentioned. You know, the
scalp is itchy, the scalp gets scabs on it, it's
still uncomfortable. So they're very interested. I told them about

(15:15):
your formula because you changed all that we.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Did, so I can tell you the whole pharmacy formula.
That's the whole book of itself. But right now we
have three of the finest compounding pharmacists in the nation,
and I said to them, we have got to take
the alcohols out of the serum. Propylene glycol is a
synthetic alcohol, and then there's all kinds of other alcohols.

(15:40):
Why is there so much alcohol monoxidal? Monoxidal is very
difficult to keep in solution. It crystallizes very quickly.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Uh huh.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
This is why they use the propylean glycol. It's cheap
and it's a cheap, easy way to get it to
not go to crystals again. So I'm sure there's people
out there who've had a custom monoxidal from a compounding
pharmacy and seen it crystallize on the shelf. That happens
a lot, so we developed our own solution that is

(16:12):
off the charts, no alcohol, no propylene glycol, and tense
and it's so there's two really good things about It
doesn't irritate, but I don't wash my hair every day.
When applied correctly, and you tilt your head back and
rub it in and wash your hands. Because it's mostly
distilled water, there's about ten minutes where you'll feel it

(16:33):
wet and then it's absorbed.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
It's gone perfect, so it doesn't interfere with styling. You
can walk out the door and it it looks fine.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, you can't blow dry after it because we'll dry
the medication up. Okay, we don't want you to put
oils on your scalp at the same time, obviously, but
otherwise everything is just like you would normally style.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
That's great. Did you cd a question, pKa?

Speaker 5 (17:01):
No, I think that's great.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, I did. And I know that there's there's more
to your formula too you're going to get into. But
I know PK and I were talking about our specific problems,
and I think you have formulas to address the specific problems,
especially that women have. So PK, do you mind sharing
that what you're dealing with now, and see what Melanie

(17:23):
was happened.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
I used to have extremely thick hair for years and
then all of a sudden, I've kept seeing more and
more on the floor, less and less on my head,
and now it's starting to move back, and I'm going,
wait a minute, I don't want to wear up front,
So tell me, my dear wizard, what I should do.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Well, that's what happened to me. And I used to
joke that I had a five head, not a forehead,
because it was going back. So it's holistic and I
know that everybody. I'm not trying to be long winded,
but every aspect of your health is going to affect
your hair. The first and foremost thing that I tell

(18:04):
people is please do a gut health fecal swab, biome biome.
I don't make money from those tests. You can often
get them from your doctor. They take a little bit
poop swab it put it in an envelope marked biohazard
of course, and it shipped off to the lab. You'll
get a report back and it will blow your mind.
Because remember when we hit menopause, our enzymes change. Oh,

(18:30):
we cannot digest the same food. If you guys ever
noticed that, You're like, wait, I used to eat this.
It didn't bother me. Anybody know what I'm talking about.
And the thing that they really kind of drives me
crazy is they don't tell women that the gut changes
so much, and you can't talk about hair and skin
without talking about gut health. The other thing that happens

(18:54):
as we age is we are far less efficient at
absorbing nutrients, so our it is more important than it
ever was. So if I may do a vial, I'm
not an affiliate, I don't make any money, but I
would start there. I was eating things like cauliflower and
sour kraut and quinoa. I guess which are the worst

(19:17):
foods for me to eat? Cafowl, cauliflower, sour kraut, and quinoa.
Who the funk?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah? Really? Because everybody talking about al sour crot is
so good because it's fermented, so it's supposed to be
good for you, but it's not good for everybody. So
it's important to.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
It's full of probiotics, and we need our probiotics. But
here's the thing, if you're not eating the wrong stuff,
your neat for probiotics drops dramatically. I know around Christmas,
I'm gonna need probiotics because I'm eating cake and things
I shouldn't, but I'm prepared for it. As soon as
I get back, I don't need probiotics anymore.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Well, I'm a junk food junkie and I know that.
So what would you recommend to do to help utilize
what you tell us to do?

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Please do that that gut health test. It comes back
to the beautiful reading online and it shows you big pictures.
Eat this, don't eat that. A little bit of this
is okay, don't ever eat that. Simple, easy to use.
It's got to start with the start with your gut. Okay.
That's number one on the line of nutrition. The other thing, too,

(20:25):
is are you doing a fish oil? No? Okay, so
this is going to be pretty much everything you need nutritionally.
This is a good it's I hold this one up.
It's costco. But find officialil that's wild caught, cold pressed,
whatever ones you want. I'm not advocating a particular brand,

(20:48):
but these work. They're very affordable and they're they're they're good.
I've used them. I do two in the morning and
two in the afternoon. I'm going to come back to
that in a moment. The bottle says two, I double
it up and I'll explain why. This is the whole basket.
This is ninety percent of what you need every day.
This is a full multivitamin. Remember, we have to feed

(21:09):
that beast called the body first or our hair takes coming.
So this is your full multi vitamin. Adaptogens for cortisol
levels such as oshraganda. Then we have risveratrol as an
antioxidant ala alphalapoic acid, which is an amazing antioxidant. And
then we have turmeric MSM. We also have yam, billberry, cranberry,

(21:31):
all the extracts for hormone support. Then we do energy,
but that's just to feed the body and distress it.
Then we say, hey body, you're full, Hey stress, hormones,
You've got enough to eat. Everybody's got what they need. Okay.
We have not one, but two proprietary blends for hair.

(21:55):
So we give you a blend with keratin, salt, palmetto collinin,
buy a ten and we feed it. We say okay,
and just in case that wasn't enough, we have a
second blend. And that is why it works. We also
ask people to take it twice a day, so you're
asking me what you can do. The B vitamins, with

(22:19):
the exception of B twelve, are not stored by the body,
but they're so important to stress and health. If we
can get you to take three in the morning and
three afternoonish, our body's got this beautiful flow of these
B vitamins, right, and your body never goes without and
it will reduce the time it takes to get your

(22:39):
hair back because it's a nice even flow.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Well, that's three capsules in the morning, three in the afternoon.
That's a lot. That's good.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
But you don't have to do the whole basket of twenty.
That basket's going to be twenty pills, right, and then
I will talk to you about Omega three's if you
want to know what I'm telling you this is you know,
this is the year of what's not working and leaving
it behind. You're going to hear why the AMaGA threes
are so important to what's not working in the American diet.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's so critical. Yeah, those are very important. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
Nine year makes it perfect because it's ending the old
way we've been doing things to banke Waye for the.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
New Yeah, yeah, there's so much. As I mentioned at
the beginning to show there's so much out there, you know,
all kinds of serums and hairspray that you put on
your scalp and this and that, and I probably have
tried just about all of it and nothing.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I mean, it's good until you try it and it
doesn't do anything.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, it's frustrating, but I agree with you that nutrition
is paramount, and especially as we get older, you write,
I mean our ability to digest and assimilate is so
compromised that I often wonder if you know, the pills
are going to do it, if the pills are going
to be enough, because our our whole food system is

(24:03):
not anything like what it should be. Oh No, even
when we're eating fresh, organic food, which is mostly what
we eat here in this household, I feel like it's
not the same food that I ate when I was
a kid. A million it isn't.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
Yeah, that's the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
I mean, even the soils rebuild. God, there is no normal.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Have you read don Have you heard a doctor Kate Shanahan.
She wrote a book called Deep Nutrition. No, she goes
deep into this and she says, look, exactly what your
ladies are saying. Our soils are depleted, our oceans are different.
You have to do your best to get the best
food you can get, but you're still going to have
to supplement.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Absolutely, it's just the way, unfortunately, the way of the
world now. And you know, and truth be told, I
love my French fries, so PK, I am not going
to pick on you for the food and sweet. But
you know, it's proto optimality, right, the eighty twenty rule.
If you're eighty percent good and you're twenty percent, you
have your little whatever, you're gonna be fine. That's what

(25:06):
the study show. I do the flip side. Unfortunately, we're
gonna work on that. Don't make me, son go through
your cabinets. But the other thing that I think is
that we don't focus on enough. Is the Omega three
Omega six essential fatty acid balance. Are you guys familiar
with that?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yes? But is please what that's all about?

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Right, So there's twofas Omega three and o Maga six
and they must be in balance. They have to be
in balance. If they're out of balance, you have inflammation aging.
Oxidation Inflammation is a major reason for hair loss. Uh huh.
So then the PK you may have to double and

(25:52):
triple your amount of omega omega three and I'm going
to tell you why. Okay, Omega six is everywhere. It's
in all our seed oils, it's an all our junk food.
You've got tons of omega six in your diet. So
this would be PK. Oh, look at all the omega six.
I need some omega three. And this gap is aging
you prematurely. It's making your hair fall out, it's making

(26:13):
you have less energy. We have to bring it like this. Okay,
it's so important that Rachel Patrick, doctor Huberman, they're all
doing it at least four of these to day.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
And have you heard of the omega three index test?
You can do?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (26:36):
So you start taking omega three? Does it takes about
a month or so to really get your system to
level out. And you test your level of omega three.
Thirteen is really good. I think a dolphin is sixteen.
That's really high. But what it does is depending on
where your omega three level is, it's going to allow
you the information you need to adjust your diet so

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you get into your optimal range.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Is that a blood test.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
There's tons of them everywhere, there's saliva everything, so you
can google it. Again. I don't want to promote anyone's
test because I'm not promoting it. But you can even
maybe ask your doctor to get it. It could be
covered by your health insurance. But you want to know
what your Omega three index is. It's going to make
a huge difference in every aspect of your life.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Well that's helpful, definitely. Yeah. Good.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
I like fish. I try to eat it, you know,
like fish.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Which is good.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
That's one thing I do eat some of.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
But anymore, let's face it, Narrizota, you don't exactly have
the best selection.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
No, we're not anywhere near an ocean. Nowhere near an ocean.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
No.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
So that's nutrition, and that's just a little sniffet of it.
But really, with the gut health and making sure that
you have really good foods, you cannot supplement your way
out of a bad diet. It just doesn't happen. When
I talk about supplements, I don't use the word vitamins.
I always like to use the word supplement because it
reminds you this is to supplement good food.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Right, So it makes it easier for people to understand
it too.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Yeah, yeah, it's so important because I know a while
back my husband decided that he was going to cut
back on food and he was taking all these supplements
and I'm like, you don't look good. Something's going wrong here.
And he went to see his functional medicine doctor. But
she said, you're in malnutrition because you're eating enough food. So, no,

(28:35):
you can't just use these supplements. You have to eat more.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
So he did.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
You listened to her, Thank god. But yeah, a lot
of people don't understand that you cannot live on just
those supplements. It's a very good point you've brought up.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
No, you can't supplement your way on a bad diet.
Use the term supplement because the next thought is one,
am I supplementing? Yeah, you're supplementing the deficiency from being
nutrient rich. That's really what you're supple many, right, So
that's kind of a nutrition in a nutshell. And then

(29:08):
the other thing that I want to talk about is
blood flow. If you're are you doing any kind of
scale massage? You know this that Okay, scalsage is proven
to help with hair that follicles alive. It's gonna stimulate
hair growth. So even if you don't have a scalp massage
or do this blood flow blood flow. You're watching TV.

(29:32):
Tip your head down so your head is the lowest part.
Get blood flow. It's proven study and people just don't
believe this because it feels so good when you're you know,
massage in your head. But study after study after study
has proven that if you are consistent about five minutes
a day with this scalp massage, just get that skin loose,
nothing point, you know, thing that can scratch the scalp follicle.

(29:55):
And you guys don't do it with me right now,
so you're sitting there, get this.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Because get your plans and do this scalp.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, just see how you're just kind of shifting the
skin a little bit. That's helping Melanie.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
What about those red laser helmets and things. Do those work?

Speaker 5 (30:11):
The studies show that they work better with a serum
oh whole blood flow, right, that's all about pulling up
the blood. Okay, show that they work best when you
use them for your ten twenty minutes and then apply
your topicals, because now the topicals got that highway moving
to really be absorbed.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Okay, So the red light or red laser first, then
the serum afterwards. It's so important, all this timing and
oh my god, this is so helpful, Melanie, thank you.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Nobody can do this like anybody can can can massage.
It's actually really, really really good for stress as well,
especially in the back of the head. It really works.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
So tell us about your serums because you have engineered
and design these specifically, and they can also from what
I understand what she said is be adjusted for each
person's personal needs. So tell us more about those.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
So let me start kind of from the beginning of
the process, because I think a lot of people are like, well,
how do I get it? So when we were putting
the pharmacy together, we realized people were going to come
to us with the scripts. They're not going to go
to a doctor for hair loss. They want to do it,
but they're uncomfortable they never get to it. So we
basically have doctor licensed in every state so that he

(31:33):
can write your script. So what you would do is
you'd go to our site, purchase the serum, and a
quiz comes up and we ask you all of these
medical questions. That goes to our medical team and they
write your prescription. Also on that questionnaires. A I want
to talk to somebody, Some people want to talk to us,
some people don't, But we communicate the way the patient

(31:54):
wants to so everything is customized instead that it's all online.
It's really easy. I always have every single morning. You
have times that aside to speak to people who have questions.
They almost pass out when I actually return their call
from you. So that's kind of the first step, and

(32:22):
feel free to call. We know it's confusing and hair
loss is kind of intimidating for most people because as
an aside, who's had that experience when you go to
the doctor and the doctor's like, your healthy, it's just
your hair get out right. So I think that the
emotional aspects of hair loss are really dismissed. And so

(32:44):
when somebody has somebody to talk to who's asking them questions,
we think that's more helpful. So that's our philosophy. So
you're losing your hair, you can either have a call first,
we can suggest products, or you say, you know, I
kind of know what I want. I'm going to go
and purchase. So you you our doctor looks at it.
We put together a serum prescription that goes to our

(33:07):
pharmacy here they make it and we ship it to
you in a kit. And this is the kit. We
always send a kit. We don't just srow a serum
ounta And in the kit is a scalp massager. We
always do a little satin pillow case because it's proven
that it's easier on the hair.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
So we kind of am a nurturer. So this is
the way I'm nurture. And what is going to be
in there, It's going to be your prescription. Okay, that's
your prescription label. And so people say, well, what's going
to be in mind, Well, it depends on you. You
may not like monoxidol. You just didn't work for you.
Monoxidal only works for forty to seventy percent of the

(33:44):
population depending on what study you read. So what we
do is this. This is what I always like to
do because I think that a visual is better. So
pretend this is your this is your bottle, and we
have a prescription. The team will say, okay, we want
some monoxidol. Somebody will say, oh, you know what, I've

(34:05):
got dry scalp. Okay, we may need some treaton knowing
somebody else may say I don't want this finasteride, Okay,
no problem, we won't put it in treat to know
monoxidal latana proas, which I would like to talk about
separately because it's amazing. We can put in spirinalacton ethilic acid.

(34:29):
So think of it as cold Stone creamery. You start
with a base, and we have a base for normal scalp,
oily scalp, and dry scalp. So it's pick your base.
This is all in the questionnaire, and then you tell
us what you've tried, what your problem is, is it
male pattern baldness? What is it? And based on that
we formulate your custom serum.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
That's wonderful.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
It's like cold Stone, right, walk in, pick a base.
You don't put everything in your cup, but you put
a few things and get it right for you.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Now, how long does one of those buns last? Is
that a thirty day treatment?

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Thirty day?

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:03):
We want you to use it twice a day.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Oh, twice a day, okay, different too.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Well, some people taper off to once a day after that.
If you want your hair rock and roll twice a day,
it really keeps it on its toes. It's up to you.
But for the first ninety we want twice a day
because that gives us information, yeah, about what's working. And
if it's working or not working, we can turn it up,
we can turn it down. So we're always tweaking formulas.

(35:31):
We have people call say, hey, can you and I
think I need this or that. Okay, we'll adjust your formula.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
So that's great.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
Truly customized, that's great.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, because everything else it's like one size fits all.
So if it doesn't work for you, you're kind of
stuck and they have to move on to another company.
But yeah, that, like you said, taking the alcohol out,
I think is paramount for that for that reason. I mean,
it's so drying, so who would want that anyways, Well,
that's working for yourself.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
It's just when your mass produced stuff. Yeah, there's no finesse, right,
it's just whatever's gonna work, whatever's going to keep it
in solution, right, whatever's the cheapest, and it's listen, I
started with that. If that's all you can afford, do it, Yeah,
do something. That's what you got. Our ours are excellent,

(36:21):
they're you know, they're more expensive because they're customized. But
I always tell people just use something.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, don't let it get so far along that you
can't do anything. You've waited too long. So yeah, so
tell us about Latana proast. What is that miracle thing?

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Oh my first love. So we all know latise for
the eyelashes, right, Okay, So I was put I've usual
tease for years and I was probably Tisa on one
night and I'm like, well, if this is going to
grow hair here, I want to grow hair here. So
I just ran and we started researching it, and sure enough,

(37:03):
this has been around for years. It is massively effective
at growing hair. It's not inexpensive like Latisa isn't, but
it's a prostaglandin analog and it stimulates the hair growth.
The side effects, well, let's just put this in perspective.
It's used as an eye drop.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
So it has to have a high level of safety.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Yes, the only time, and we have never had anyone
have a reaction to it. If you have an allergy
or a prostagland and you have an allergy. The only
side effect could be hyper pigmentation on the scalp. But
that's a good thing. That's a positive side effect. It
is very if if the follicles alive and healthy, if

(37:46):
the follicle's dead in your ball, there's nothing to stimulate,
So the race against time is to get started on
this before those follicles are dead. It's you know, it's
one of the accidental side effects, like most drugs, like
monoxidal was an accidental side effect. They discovered hair growth

(38:07):
when they were trying to lower blood pressure. These have
been around four years, so unless you have an allergy
or you just don't respond well, they're very, very very safe.
Pharmaceuticals does everything. You have side effects. An apple has
a side effect, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Well, you know what you surprised me with when you
were talking about monoxidal that if you put it on
your fingernails, it will harden them. So that is so fascinating.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
I don't know if you heard that from me. I
think I've heard that, but I don't. I've not studied it.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Well, I heard it from you. I think we've talked
about it briefly. But I tried it and it does work.
And what happens as a side effect to having harder
nails is that they can grow longer because they're not
breaking off. So yeah, yeah, you just told me about that.
See what a genius you are, not.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Me, I just read stuff and see if it works.
I'm the guinea pig, I mean, the Brian Joson Johnson
of hair on me first.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, exactly. Well, and also some people have said to me, well,
you know, but I'll use it, but if I stop
using it, then my hair is going to fall out
and I'll be back to square one. But you had
a very interesting answer to that. Do you remember what
you told me? You said, well, you use it until
the next best thing comes along. Yes, which is very

(39:36):
good advice.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
The whole goal of this the hair game, and it's
the hair growth game. Keep that follicle alive. If you're
follicles alive, then the treatments that come along, and they're
not there yet. Stem cells and eggs zones are not
anything I would recommend at this point that that is
not there. I don't think they were fined enough. If
you want to go for it and give it a try,

(39:58):
that's great, but I don't want recommend something where I
don't see the research behind at this time. That said,
with the advancements and AI and everything happening more quickly,
I think we will see them in the next two
to five years. Oh really, that's only two of the
possible treatments.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Okay, we have others.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Well, there's so much money. It's like eight billion dollar
industry as twenty twenty three, so not even catching up.
There's a lot of research now, so who knows what
they're doing secretly in labs. But the point is keep
the follicle alive, whether it's Latan approached or monoxidal or
whatever you find works for you. If you keep it alive,

(40:39):
you're going to be able to take advantage of every
better and better and better treatments. And trust me, this
is you know, this is great now, but it's probably
gonna be pretty archaic in the next five years. Yeah, okay,
there's going to be all different kinds of treatment and stimulation.
But hair transplants are really really expensive, and they're also

(41:06):
they're also.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
They're painful. I've known people who've gotten them and they've
been through a lot of pain and bruising and everything else,
and still they weren't happy with the result.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
So people alive.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yes, I've talked to people who've had the xison treatment
and the scalp injections right into the scalp, and you're right,
the technology is not there yet. And nothing happens, and
they've spent a few thousand dollars and a lot of
pain because it is painful getting those injections. So I'm
glad to hear you say this. And it's not that

(41:42):
they can't be used a couple of years from now
when they figure out how this works us.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
But right now, well, guys, stem cells are You're not
an apple. You're not an apple. Why would you think
that an apple stem cell is going to help a
human regrow their hair or help anything on their skin?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Right?

Speaker 5 (42:14):
An apple DNA cannot help a human with their DNA.
So I'm begging everyone please with stem cells, please ask
two questions. First, is it human? And if it is human, second,
is it ethically sourced? And I don't think we're there yet.

(42:38):
That's why I can't advocate stem cells because they'll say, yeah,
they're human stem cells. I need to know how you
were getting those because ethically, with things that go on
in this world, I can't support an industry that might
be harming someone.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Right. I mean years ago, when all the stem cell
stuff got started and I was diagnosed with annimmune disease,
I went to Beverly Hills and worked with a doctor there,
but it was my own stem cells. So yeah, but
that was harvested from me. But at the time, the
FDA forbid you to store your own stem cells, so

(43:17):
I couldn't store them, and so that that was a
stem cell treatment that worked extremely well would have had
to be repeated, but they wouldn't let me store the
stem cells. The FDA is such nazis, I swear that
is really it's just unbelievable that they wouldn't allow you
to store your own stem cells, because then you have

(43:37):
to worry about it was ethically sourced. It comes from
your own body exactly. You also have to worry about
if you're getting it from another source. Did that person
have the COVID vaccine which is now being found to
have all kinds of effects that nobody wants. So there's
a lot of questions that would need to be asked
and how these things can be used effectively. But I'm
very interested to watch this technology develop.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
It's fascinating, isn't it. It is when you go to
the shows and you people saying, hey, they're exo zones,
and I see where were they sourced and they go
conversation's over. It's really important. There's somebody selling apple stem
cells for skin. There's somebody else selling basic other animals
type stem cells for human skin. It's it's just.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Well, it's all very questionable. And again none of this
is tea I see. So you're spending a lot of
money a damn well better work, and unfortunately a lot
of it doesn't. That's why we wanted you to come
on the show. Now, you also were going to be
running out of time here shortly, but I wanted to
ask you about your skin products too, because wonderful formulations there.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
So again, it's really important for us to make sure
that we're using things that have the science behind them.
So when you when you know we talk about our products,
when we talk about our GHCCU copper peptide, we are
a pharmacy. We have to be able to prove our sourcing.
The inspector comes in and looks at our purchase receipts
to make sure this is a pure approved peptide. This

(45:13):
is GHKCU, it's naturally occurring in the body. It has
it just I don't have any creepy skin here at
sixty two because what it does, it's gene sequencing, and
this is science. You can research it. It actually penetrates
your skin and goes in and turns genes off and
on to rejuvenate. It's been around since the seventies. Why

(45:35):
don't you see it on every shelf because it has
to be formulated correctly, it has to be used correctly.
The copper molecule can be quite delicate. It's easy to use.
You just can't throw it on with a bunch of
other stuff. This has just been game changing. If you've
got a surgery or you've got a wound, GHKCU is
your body's healing peptide and rejuvenating peptides. That's wonderful. And

(45:58):
of course we have rehtinoc acid which we custom compound
and retinoic acid is tretonon m HM. That too, has
been around since the fifties. We know it, we know
its side effects, we know what it does. And we
have tretono one for the body right because the body
gets neglected. We call it create bar x. We get

(46:20):
rid of the crapey skin. We also have what I
think is probably one of the loves of my life, estriol.
Are you guys using your.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, tell us about that, because that's a big thing.
Right now. I hear it a lot, and in other
places that people are touting it, they're just saying it
works like it's unbelievable. But it has to be compounded correctly,
as I'm sure you mentioned.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Yes, So this will have your prescription on it when
it comes. It's estriol, not estra diele. Okay, there's estriol, estradile, astrone.
There's all different types of estrogen, so you have to
make sure you're getting the right one. This is a
little bit more expensive to purchase than just estra dial.
But remember when you were pregnant, you had that pregnancy glow.

(47:13):
This is your pregnancy glow.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Do you remember that PK.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
I was too bogged down with two other kids.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
So the estriol cream, what it does is it is
proven to build collagen and elastin, but the glow comes
from hydration. The is is what you have in the
eighth or ninth month of pregnancy when you're glowing and
your skin is hydrated, and it's fantastic. And everything that
we have in the way of face creams, the retinoic acid,

(47:48):
everything is scientifically proven to build collagen. Trentonoen builds collagen.
Who says the FDA, not us. That's what the FDA
says about that ingredient. And what we do is we
custom compounded for you. So say you've got dark spots, Hey,
I want a little Kochak acid or some easily acid
or some hydrochronone, and we custom compound and send it
to you.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
Yeah, they're The nice thing about custom compounding is this
is just these are just some of the creams that
we can do. But we do custom creams for roseesha,
for malasma. You know what if you used what works
for you, and that just makes it so much more
effective and it takes the guesswork out of the over
the counter. You know, these ingredients.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Work so exactly. I have a relative that has rose shaw.
What do you use for that?

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Ah, I'm going to go back to this again. There's
two things that she needs, very things that she can
do out of the box. Look at her gut. Roseesha
has also been shown doctor Whitney Bau and some of
the other germs Roseesha they believe can be a imbalance
in the skin microbiome, a bacteria, a Greek yogurt facial

(49:01):
bacteria to balance it.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Huh. How interesting.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
And look at her products, in particular what detergent she's
using for her pillows, rubbing on her face, and her
sheets and her towels. So three things that don't require
any prescription. Yeah, if you want to really, we have
a wonderful cream. It's a metro and ivermectin and it

(49:28):
is beautiful for roseesia. Wow, gorgeous. We can also do
an easily acid for rosesia. So it depends on the
person how bad it is, what they've tried. But we
really encourage everybody get the low hanging fruit. Let's get
to the bottom of why you have it. So we
want to treat it, but we want to know what's
going on.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
That is so important. I mean, for what I have scarrederma,
everybody kind of throws their hands in the air. I
don't know what causes it. I've talked to two, actually
three heads of scalerid Or clinics, supposedly the best in
the world, and they've said to me, we don't have
anything for you, which is incredible because this disease is

(50:09):
not that rare. It's been around for a while. But
then I heard somebody talking about the gut and I
heard somebody talking about H. Pylori and they linked it
to every single autoimmune disease and that when H. Pylori
loves to make friends with your other bacteria. When it
partners with clipsella, you get rheumatoid arthritis. When it partners

(50:34):
up with staff, you get lupus, And when it partners
up with staff and or strup, you get scleroderma. So
it's been a really interesting journey to realize how powerful
the gut is. And I mean, that's the place You're
so right. That is the place to start, because if

(50:55):
you have an infection, you can throw anything you want
at these things and it won't matter. It may help
for a little while, but that I always say, you
get to treat the infection first and then go from there.
And that's the only people are going to know. Now.
The test that I used was GI map. That's a
little different than the ones that you were talking about.

(51:17):
That anybody who does a GI test is going to
get some really good information. The one that I did
there was five pages of fight awesome, frightening stuff and
I was like, no, wonder, I don't feel well. No,
I know, Yeah, that is so important and so many
things can clear up just from there. But we still

(51:38):
need your help Melody with hair and skin, because we're
still going to age.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
We are, and you know, we're going to be around
a long time. You know, my mom died in her nineties,
which she used to be a smoker. Wow, kids, that
doesn't kill you. I don't know, well, yeah really, and
she lived till ninety. So I'm like, hm, I'm sixty two,

(52:08):
I got probably you know, an average thirty seen ter.
I'm knowing what happened, but about thirty two years if
I follow on that path. But with medicine advancing, you know,
another five, another ten, we may only be halfway through
our lifestyle, our lifetime exactly. We want to keep it.
We want to feel good.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Yeah, yes, yes, exactly, and we want to look good.
We don't want to look our age. And there's so
many people now that apparently have found the secret to that.
Look at you, you look fantastic, well your age.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
Yeah, that's really sweet. But I gotta tell you, nicotine
might mononucleotide and a man if you are not using it,
we sell it here with the prescription because it isn't
now a legend a legend drug with the FDA. I
am telling you they have to take it away from me.
The pharmacists will come in and don't give her an
a man, she's got much energy already. But it actually

(52:59):
is proven to repair the telomeres. Yeah, it's proven deally good.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Like and every day there's more and more and more
and more.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Well, this is what we need, and unfortunately we've got
to wrap up. But I want to make sure everybody's
got your website and the phone number again. So your website, well,
here's the phone number six O two three one five
one five three zero. That's six O two three one
five one five three zero. And your website is you
lou u l u r x dot com. So there

(53:34):
you go, everybody, if you want to look great in
twenty twenty five, this is your best friend. Melanie Elaine, Melanie,
thank you so much for joining us, Tottle. This is
so great.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
Thank you, thank you, Patricia, thank you PK. And you know,
whatever you do, do something, you know, don't think me
about just one little thing a day, even if it's
a five minute walk, even if it's ten squads. Do something.
Before you know it, you're just going to be on
this beautiful journey and feeling good and looking wonderful.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yay, that's what we want. Well, we'll be back next
week with another great show, lots of new guests, lots
of exciting topics. Be sure to join us in Until then,
we'll see you on the Blue High.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Good night, good day,