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October 15, 2024 54 mins
Patricia Baker & Patricia Kirkman have lived with paranormal experiences their entire lives.  To them, the paranormal is normal.
Tune in to hear all about their on-air supernatural events - the devil and the medium; the dog who barked; the haunted house in Rocky Hill, CT, and the American Scole experiment.
 
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Our angels, ghosts, and Bigfoot. Oh why, it's just another
night for Supernatural Girls and real stories, real answers to
life's biggest supernatural mysteries. And now for another exciting interview
with paranormal experts from this world and others. Here's your host,
paranormal researcher Patricia Baker on the One the Only Supernatural Girls.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Welcome everyone to another exciting episode of Supernatural Girls. This
is Spooky October, and I think we have probably one
of the spookiest episodes ever for everybody to p So
it's our own personal stories that we really haven't shared
on the air with our audience, so we decided tonight

(01:10):
was the night. So we're going to be sharing our
personal experiences because, as you know, for us, paranormal is normal.
Both PK and myself, we've grown up with the paranormal
as the best friend and we've had some very exciting adventures.
We're going to hear about them tonight. But first, BK,
what do you got Well?

Speaker 3 (01:32):
The good old story is this month is a preview
of next year, Folks, no way of getting away from it.
It's the way it is. Pay attention, keep a pad
of paper next to your bed. Little things are going
to zip up in the mind. Write them down. You're
going to be surprised how you can elaborate on them
and make a big difference of what's taking place. Because

(01:55):
we're looking at endings of old things to make way
for the new are going. We are now in our
nine year. This month is a preview of this coming
year in total. So hang on to the side of
the boat, folks, because we're going to have to ride
the waves. And trust me, there's going to be some
big ones.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Oh oh boy.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Not going to be an easy time anytime we deal
with endings and wrapping up the old. We keep trying
to put a flower on this hat. When this hat's
one of those clutches you just pulled out. You don't
stick anything on it because it's not going to work
and it's not going to stay. It's the time when
we have to let go of what no longer works

(02:41):
in our world to open the doors for what we've
got coming towards us. And if we let go of
what we've got from the past, we will be able
to really look at making the future better than ever.
But we have to let go of parts of it
and everybody for some reason. We're collector. If I hang
on to it long enough, maybe it'll change. No, it won't.

(03:04):
Let it go. It'll make it a lot easier emotionally,
after all, what the heck? Why not take a ride
on the wild side, let go of something. You might
be surprised at the other end of the swing.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Is it time to clean out the closet? Literally?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh my god, Yes, ole places and things that no
longer fit say goodbye, sion out a open the door,
do a push. I have a thing that I tell clients,
things that you want to get rid of. Thinking of yourself.
This big bag next to you, and as these things
pop up, shove them in the bag. And now this
bag is finding filled. And when you get in the

(03:43):
car next time, take the bag with you. And as
you go down the road, drop the window, throw the
bag out. You don't care where it goes. It's just
not coming home anymore.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I like it not easier to think about. Yeah, well,
we're creatures of habit. We want to hang on to
what we know isn't good. Yeah, we think it's going
to get better. Well you can maybe, But the ads
are if we let go of something. The door is
now open for something plus positive to come to us,

(04:13):
not just a possible thing sliding through. We're looking for
more than just a little bit. Don't we want the
best of everything? I'm just I want everything?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, and the best of everything?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yes, mind oh, yes, And what we're working on taking
a look at letting go. Every morning when you wake
up and you look in the mirror, that's your new
best friend. Let's tell her or him hello, and what
can I do for you today? And build from that

(04:47):
moment forward. Instead of looking in the mirror, oh Christ,
today it looks like look at me off. Yeah, it
goes downwards. So instead do this, do the reverse. What
could I do for you today? To make it up?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Specialty, It's a wonderful idea. So many people wake up
and they can't wait for the day to be over.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
What is terrible way to live. So yeah, we encourage
everybody to change that.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
So that's what You've got opportunities and that's the most
important part.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
We have opportunities, yes, and miracles are everywhere, you know,
the angels are looking out for you. The interdimensionals are
all around us that we're going to talk about, and
there's all kinds of miracles that you can draw into
your life. So we support our audience and bringing those
miracles in and having the best possible life.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Why shouldn't we? Right, after all, it's all available. It
just depends on what we want to do with it.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's why we bring these guests to you every single
week to help you with that, to open your minds,
to share with you their own experiences so that you
can have hope.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Definitely maybe some of those.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Techniques that they are bringing to us and create something better.
So yeah, we have all kinds of things planned for
you for the rest of this year and next, so
get ready for that. But for now, this is all
about spooky stories, spooky personal stories. Should I start out

(06:20):
with the devil in the medium?

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Sure, go ahead. Let's let's scare them first.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Let's scare them right away.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Good idea.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
So years ago, we had a medium on the show
Psychic Medium Lovely Lady, and she was recovering from pneumonia.
We weren't sure she was actually going to make the show,
but she did, and we started interviewing the medium, and
all of a sudden both of us heard a squeaky

(06:52):
office chair, and it was getting louder and louder, and
it was so distracting. It was so annoying, and I
was like, oh my god. Now we were on blog
talk at the time, and they had a separate room
you could bring people in during the commercials and talk

(07:13):
to them and nobody else could hear it. So we
brought her in and said, hey, would you mind changing
your chair maybe like a straight back dining room or
something like that, because your chair is so loud, it's squeak, like,
that's not me. I'm in a straight back chair, not

(07:35):
an office chair, and that squeaky noise isn't coming from
my chair. Well, we knew it wasn't coming from our chairs,
so sure at that point we knew we had a visitor,
an unwelcome visitor who was making a lot of noise

(07:56):
and annoying us and the audience too, because who wants
to listen to that when you're trying to hear the guests.
So we came back from the commercial and we talked
about it. We said, well, apparently we have a visitor
and the visitor is unwelcome, and hey, visitor, we want
you to leave making too much noise so leave and

(08:17):
it stopped. It just stopped, which is great. So went
on with the interview and it was a great interview.
It was a lot of fun talking to her. After
the show was over, I had a camera here and
I got up and I took a picture in the

(08:38):
room and Chanelle, can you show everybody the picture of
the devil's head that leaves us.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
There? It is.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
So there's a devil's head that showed up. So that
was the entity that had been.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Following this medium around.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Probably followed her because she wasn't feeling well. Because whenever
you're doing this kind of any kind of mediumship, psychet work, whatever,
you really have to be one hundred percent. And she
had been trying to recover from pneumonia for a long time.
Our opinion was this thing latched on to her and
followed her right into our studio.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
As we were doing the interview.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
So anyways, I called the medium and got her assistant
and said, hey, look, I just need to tell you
and I'll send you the picture. But this is what's
been following her around, and she really should do a
big cleansing, you know, do whatever she does to keep
herself safe and her space safe. And it probably did

(09:48):
attach to her because she wasn't feeling well, but I
wanted her to know about this so she could attend
to it. I never heard back from the assistant or
the medium, but I did take the picture and I
sent it to doctor Gallagher. Some of you may remember

(10:08):
doctor Gallagher. We interviewed him a couple of times. He
is a board certified Harvard psychologist. I'm a psychiatrist, excuse me.
And he is also an exorcist and works with people
who are possessed and who have paranormal experiences around them,
and that's how he knows if it's and exorcism is

(10:30):
needed or if in fact medication is needed. He basically
sorts it out, figures it out, and goes from there.
So I send him the photo and I asked him,
I said what do you think? And he wrote back
he said, that is definitely the devil. Definitely the devil.
So that was our experience, the devil and the medium,

(10:53):
just one of many.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yes. Oh, it's never a nice note to know who's
coming to dinner.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
And you know, again with PK, with you and I,
I mean, we've been at this for such a long time.
It takes a lot to really frighten us, and we
weren't frightened by it, but we knew it was something
that this woman had to attend to or things could
in fact get worse.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, that's the thing you worry about, is what can
predict a future event for them that might be negative.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Exactly exactly because a lot of those entities like to
make mischief, like the squeaky chair.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
It wasn't anything horrible, it was just annoying. So it's
the pain where you sit right.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
So, but making mischief like that ken, like you said,
turn into something else, and you don't want to give
it that opportunity. It needs to go away and not
attached to somebody like this lady. So that was that story.
So do you have one you want to share?

Speaker 4 (11:53):
PK.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Well, many of the people locally and of course, were
Why know George Lugo, So, Georgia and I have been
good friend for many, many years, and one day he
decided he was going to stop by with his girlfriend.
He wanted me to meet her. That was fine, and
he pulled in the driveway and waited a little bit,
and all of a sudden he finally came to the door.
And I thought well, what happened to you, George? You

(12:15):
know type thing. I opened the door and he looked
at me and he said, how'd you change so fast?
That's what are you talking about? Because I had jeans
on and one of those old sweatshirts that I like
to wear. He said, were you just outside of the
house and you were wearing this greeny dress with pleats
on the bottom? My mother and I both have a dress.

(12:36):
It's chartreuse, pleated bottom, high necktime. I loved it, my
mother loved it. My mother has been deceased for a
number of years. And George said, well, I couldn't figure
out how you managed to change so fast. I saw
you on the side of the house and I thought
your hair was different. I said, no, I said, I've
been in here the whole time. Anyway, it was your mother.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I showed my dress and he said, that's what you
had on. So we both had the same dress because
we loved the color sharkthroughs. So after that, I kept
watching George out of the one code of my eye
to make sure he wasn't she was exaggerating just a
little bit. But he would come across different things like that,

(13:23):
with us over the years and different times we would
do different events and he would ask a question about
did I just see or did I just tell this
person this that he would see them and they would
reiterate to him what he knew had been said, and
yet I hadn't even talked to them yet.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Incredible.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
It always surprised me when we would do things of
that nature.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
How long have you known George, Oh.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
My gosh, I've been in Tucson. I came in ninety two,
probably nineteen ninety four, ninety five.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Sometime.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, he is one of the most incredibly talented yes see,
that you've ever introduced to me. Yeah, he's amazing. I
remember on the show we talked about Jim Morrison not
being dead. That's right on the other side, he was
still there, So I believe that's true.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's amazing how everyone has something that they've met at
a different point in time and we kind of pass
it off as oh, not really possible. Maybe type attitudes
and many of the same things will happen here. I
had a couple of ladies that are very into the
spiritual side, and one's a teacher and one is also

(14:44):
works very deeply with the other side, and they were here.
We were having tea on the back patio, and then
one stopped and she looked at me and she said,
where have all these people come from?

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Oh my goodness, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Well, I live on a wash and the way the
wash comes down the street area. And the other lady
that was with us, she lives further up the street
on the wash as well, and it goes from behind
her house and comes down the road and swings behind mine.
It continues on forward. Well, it was the trail, the

(15:20):
Indians that had walked the trail.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Sitting there, she said, I see them and they're stopping
and they're turning ground looking at us, and now the
one has her staff and they're going forward again. Wow, Enna,
She said, do you ever talk to them? And I said,
I didn't know they were there. I never thought about it.
So since that point in time, I do a little
chatting once in a while when different things transpire. And

(15:46):
it's kind of interesting in a way when you stop
and think about nothing is really gone. It's just at
another level. Right, It's like, well, here the coyotes at night,
and sometimes it's you could go out and you could
almost feel something else there. It isn't just and it's

(16:09):
of course they're having their own little song fist, but
you wonder what they're really seeing. And from this trail
that you're talking about goes off and continues on down
out of the state of Arizona.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Gosh, scary but wonderful experience. And see this is again
for us, so it's nothing to be afraid of. It's
like you are very comfortable knowing that these Indians and
Native Americans were walking through the property, that your friend
was able to see them. It's just to you and I,
this isn't normal. And I think that's also you and
I being so relaxed with this is something that draws

(16:47):
more of this in, except that we have more experiences.
So one of the next ones I wanted to talk
about is the dog that barked. Yes, this is amazing.
We have had a guest on the show who had
written a book about her relationship with her dog. And
this was a television producer and as you recall, she

(17:10):
never had owned a dog in her life. She was
a cat person. But she was on a chute. She
was driving in a big suv and had a terrible
accident and the suv rolled over numerous times. She ended
up in the hospital. It was quite a bad accident.
While she was there, and she was from New York

(17:31):
City and she was there recuperating in the hospital, and
she thought, you know what, I just need to get
a dog. So here she is recuperating from this major accident.
She almost died, and now it's time to get a dog.
So she had never owned a dog. She didn't know
what to do, but she got this dog. And she said,

(17:53):
I didn't know what I was doing. You know, had
a house train. I didn't know what I was doing.
But she had such a heart connection with this dog.
They were like soulmates. And I think the name of
the book might have been Soul Dog so familiar.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah, I think that was the name of it. And
she was delightful and.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
It was it was wonderful to talk to her because
she had so many great stories to tell about her
relationship with her dog and how everything came to be.
Her dog eventually passed away, and when her dog passed away,
she held her dogs her dog in her arms, and

(18:39):
she said she felt just the soul and spirit of
the dog just moved right through her so we were
feeling very you and I very touched by this whole experience.
It was so emotional and so beautiful, and all of
a sudden.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
We heard barking mm hmm. Now you didn't have any dogs?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Nope, still don't.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I have two, but they were three levels up from
where I am, and our guest had gotten a new dog,
but her new dog was asleep at her feet, and
we all asked each other did you hear that? And
our guests said, I recognize the bark. That was my

(19:32):
dog and it was clear's day, it's on the tape
that was her dog.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Oh my god. We started crying. It was like an
incredible moment. Definitely connection.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I mean here her dog was just on the other side,
still communicating where her still letting or no, I'm here,
And so that was a very beautiful moment and not
spooky again, but just touching and reminding us all that, yeah,
they're all still right here, just.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Like what you were just saying. Kay, it's just on
another level.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Do you remember the young lady that had a store
not too far from where you went, and she had
the fairies in the garden and the little shoes that
were left I'm trying to remember that story, but yes.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yes, I remember me that's about that.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Because that was such an interesting story and I always
think about that and it can't help but make you smile.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Oh my gosh. Well, Katrina is a very powerful breu ha.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Which and she had a piece of property with a
beautiful house on it in northern California, and there was
a lot of fairy energy there, so she would leave
little things for them, you know, milk and honey and
wine and then things like that. So one night, I

(20:57):
guess the fairies had quite a shindig and she came out.
Katrina came out in the morning and there were glasses
spilled over and stuff was all in disarray. But she
was looking around and she saw these little, tiny shoes
and little pink shoes, and she saw, isn't this nice?

(21:21):
They left a gift for me. So she picked up
the little shoes and these were smaller than a dime.
I mean that's how small they were. Because she sent
me a picture and there was a dime next way,
and they were smaller than that. So she put them
in the house and her life turned to shit.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Everything. Oh my god, poor Katrina, and she couldn't figure out.
She was like, why, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
And then she thought, ah, the shoes h And then
she realized the shoes were not meant for her. It's
just that the fairies kind of left from there and
they're stupor in their party time whenever the shoes were left.
So she brought them back and left them there and

(22:14):
they disappeared, but her life went back to normal. So, yeah,
you have to be careful, she informed us, with fairies
because there sometimes they are giving you a gift, but
you got to know the difference. If you take something
that doesn't belong to you, then you will pay a price.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Well, you know, the thing that's surprising about it is
the fact that you don't think about something like that
taking place. Wasn't it her husband that told her to
get those shoes back outside.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think you may have contributed to the message that
you did the wrong thing.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Let them go, Let them go back, right.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
But the longings that go on around us that we
just take for granted and don't think about it. But
then if you start piecing it together, it's like doing
a big jigsaw puzzle. When hee fits here and the
next thing you know, you do get the rest of
the story, but sometimes it takes a lot longer than
you anticipate.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And you know, I think in our culture we've learned
to take our intuition and our connection to spirit and
we turn the volume way down so we can't hear it,
you know. So it's important in your meditations or whatever
prayers turn the volume way up, because then you can
hear the messages much more easily. So I think that's

(23:35):
an important exercise to do. So it's a good one.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
It's a good one. But yeah, those very shoes.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Oh yeah, I can remember you telling this story about
that I've got Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Gracious, yeah, that was something else, my goodness. And also
I can tell the story to everybody, and I don't
know if I've told you this yet, PK the story
of the haunted house in Rocky Hill, Connecticut that I
lived in. So it all started when I first I

(24:07):
lived with my ex husband in a condo in Rocky Hill.
There was a lovely condo, but we were building a
house and it was far from ready. So we were
in the condo and I went to leave one day
to go I think I was supposed to pick him
up somewhere in Hartford, and there was this long line
exiting the condo property, like, what in the world is

(24:28):
going on. Well, turned out there had been a bank robbery,
so they were stopping. The police were there and they
were stopping each and every car looking in the trunk
in the back seat, looking for the bank robbers because
they couldn't figure out how they got away, and so
they were searching everybody. So it was a long haul waiting.

(24:50):
But anyways, what happened was we eventually completed the house
and moved in. And it was right down the street
from our condo, and it was in a lovely culled
a sack surrounded by trees, and there was woods in
the back that backed up for quite a few acres.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
So I hear in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Footsteps, heavy footsteps, boom, boom, boom. My husband's next to me.
I wake up out of a sound sleep. Somebody's in
the house.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
And this is before cell phones and security cameras and
all that kind of stuff that you could do with
your house. So I hear the footsteps boom, boom, boom,
coming up the stairs. And then I hear somebody jiggling
the doorknob to the bedroom, and I'm crazed. I'm like,
oh my god, called police. Police come, They go to

(25:47):
the house.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
There's nobody there.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
So this goes on night after night after night, and
I am now.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Getting clearer pictures of this person.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
He's wearing work boots and a flannel shirt and it
looks like he's got reddish hair, and I'm like, what
is this? You know, why is this person here? This
is a brand new house and here's this person coming.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
And I wasn't the only one hearing it.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Then we had a dinner party one night and we
hear large pieces of furniture being dragged across the floor
right above us, which there's a guest bedroom up there,
and just dragging it back and forth. And so we
go running upstairs. Nobody's there, not a thing out of place,

(26:35):
so let me go back to having dinner. Eventually the
noise stops, but we have no idea as to what's
really going on. At that time, I had a housekeeper
named Beverly, and Beverly would often come to me and say,
did you call my name? Somebody's call for Beverly. I
thought it was you. You're the only person here, and

(26:57):
I'm like, no, it wasn't men. We would walk through
this archway in the house and it would smell like
riting flesh. Oh, just in that one spot. It was disgusting.
So it was like, if you know, riting flesh. So
these things continued, and then Dahani Yuahu, the Cherokee medicine

(27:22):
woman we've also had on the show, she came to
stay with us for a weekend and she was doing
a workshop for my clients. I had a tepee out
in the backyard and I would do dream groups there and.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
She said, can I sleep in the teepee? Sure, no problem.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So she went to sleep in the teepee, and in
the morning we all sat down for breakfast together and
she said, do you know you have a man running
through your backyard and in your house with his gun
drawn looking for the money.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I was like, oh my god. And then I told
her all of the experiences and she said, well listen.
I tried to get him to look to the light
and leave, but he wouldn't. He wants that money. So
I called. After Dehani left that weekend, I called the
local police in Rocky Hill and I said, is there
a file or something I could read about this bank robbery. Well,

(28:29):
the next thing I know, the detective who was on
the case is at my door and he said, well,
tell me why you're interested, and I told him of
all the experiences we had, and then he said to me,
we caught two of the guys. We never caught the
third guy, but we knew there was a third guy.

(28:52):
And he opens up the file and he shows it
to me. He said, in their accomplice. He points to
this woman's picture. Her name was Beverly.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh, for Hiven's sakes.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, So it was like it just all came together,
you know, it's like, here's the pieces of the puzzle.
We never found the money we looked.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I didn't mind it.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
But what did happen is that was just the beginning
of a portal opening. Apparently his murder opened up a
whole big ring of power here. So we had other
experiences from that point on with other entities, and it
never stopped. From the time that this started to the
time I moved out, it was non stop. Entities coming in.

(29:45):
You hear the doors open, you'd hear footsteps up into
the office. You go there, nobody's there.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Same thing.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
But it wasn't all. It wasn't always this guy. It
was sometimes other entities. So we had quite a lot
of fun in that. But yeah, at first it was terrifying.
I have to say that was terrifying because you sound
asleep and you hear heavy boots coming up the stairs
and particuling the door knob. It's a really frightening thing.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
And that was for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I was a gun owner, so yeah, I just like
I didn't have a weapon. Probably it's good I didn't
have a weapon, but anyways, Yeah, so that's in Rocky Hill.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
When I lived in Annapolis, Maryland, we used to go
to the Eastern Shore periodically, and the one area in
the Eastern Shore a lot of the older homes had
been turned into little businesses. And it was around Christmas
time and we stopped at this one place. We've been
there for lunch and that a few times, and then
we decided to take a jet over to this house

(30:50):
that was decorated beautifully and they had Christmas things for sale,
and I thought, well, that'd be nice because it's more
of the Eastern Shore style as opposed to what we
would ordinarily have. So we went there and I was
walking around, and the woman said to me, there's an
upstairs and I said, oh, really, She said if you'd
like to go, and I said yeah, because what they

(31:12):
had there was interesting on the first level, but there
was something that I just felt like I was missing something.
So I went upstairs, and like walking into cold storage,
it was like it took your breath away and just
three and I can't even explain how it felt, almost

(31:34):
like you walked into like an ice box or something,
this strange feeling that came over you. And I looked
around nothing that I saw it would be anything i'd
even want to purchase or bring downstairs with me. And
I couldn't get out of there fast enough to get
back downstairs. So when I got and the woman said,
did you see anything of your liking? And I said,

(31:56):
it was the strangest feeling. And I said it was
so cold up there, and she looked, she said, our
heats on throughout the house, and I said, it was
the straightest feeling of coldness in that chill, that that
uneasy chill. She said the owner of the house had
committed suicide up there, so they did not have any

(32:18):
idea that his remains were still there. Obviously, and of
course lucky Bee had Yeah, meet Beelzebob, but scared. I
couldn't get out of that house fast enough. It's just
like somebody's sitting on your chest.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Wow, it was eerie.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's the stuff that's so uncomfortable sometimes and
then you don't know what to do with it. But
just get away from it is the best thing. So
that's what you did.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
People feel things at different times, but we kind of
push it off as oh, that's just whatever without really
looking at what it is or where it's coming from. Yes,
and there are so many times that in a day
in a lifetime that we walk into things. We try
to understand what it is. But it's easier to say, oh,

(33:13):
one of those things doesn't mean anything. But if we
really stop to take a look at those things that
pop up with that sh always say eerie or unbalanced feeling.
Take a look at what's really going on around? Did
something really happen there? Is there something that's happening there now?

(33:35):
Or is there something that I'm being informed of because
there's something maybe we could do about it. I think
sometimes we get feelings about things. If we were to
take the step forward to check it out. We might
stop some negativity from taking place or possibly add something
very positive to the people around it.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yes, why not explore it as long as you're comfortable
with it, you know, explore it and see what the message.
There might be a message just for you, who knows.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
And it's not run hick.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
As fass as you get. Well here this is a
bit of a spookier story. I went to Egypt for
a few weeks and I brought back some of the
little yushptis, which are like little figures, were in the tombs,
and moved him back about three or four days, and

(34:28):
I woke up the mill of the night and this
was scary. I saw this thing just like pounced on
my chest. It was looking like a demonic figure, but
it's from Egypt. It didn't look like something that we're
used to seeing in the work that we do. So

(34:51):
this thing jumps on my chest and I screamed. I
just opened my mouth and just the loudest scream. My
husband wakes up, going, what the heck's wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (35:00):
And then this thing just ran away.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Well, there's a book called A Search in Secret Egypt
by Paul Brunton who's an historian. Now, Paul was traveling
in the Valley of the Kings on his little donkey,
and he encountered this man who was an adept, and

(35:26):
this man stopped him and said, I need to tell
you something. Said, you know, your people they're opening all
these tombs, and that's a very bad thing to do
because the ancient Egyptians they bound entities in with these
tombs so to keep them protected. And every time you

(35:52):
guys open a tomb, you're letting this energy out, and
so bad things will have happen and you won't know why,
you won't know where this is coming from, but this
is where it's coming from. You need to tell them
to stop opening the tombs. And so of course here

(36:14):
I am, you know, with my little Lushapti's that I
carry home from the tombs. It's like, oh yeah, gosh,
you know. So anyways, I thought that was a very
scary experience. I'm glad the thing left. I don't know
where it went, but I was glad it left. And
after reading Paul's book, it informed me it's not a
good thing to do because the ancient Egyptians knew what

(36:37):
they were doing, and they would bind these these beings
in there, and that's where they stayed until somebody opened
the door unsealed. So but it was it was a
very very strange experience. I'm sure my husband by then
thought I was totally crazy. First there was the guy
in the work boots. Now it's the Egyptian the demons

(37:01):
following us home. So anyway, so that was a really
interesting experience.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
That's when you look at it.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
But the other thing that we a.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, right, Robin Foy, we've had We had Robin Foy
on the show from the Skull experiment a number of times.
It took us a while to get the whole story
out of him about what was going on with that.
And that whole skull experiment was so remarkable.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
I mean they were able to get.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Manifestations and people would have full body manifestations in their group.
So they had six mediums sitting in a circle. Newspapers
from two hundred years ago would drop out of the ceiling.
They'd have them analyzed and it was the ink and
the paper and everything from two hundred years ago. So
the psychical Research organization over there, which is very very

(38:03):
well known, I should say, they got involved and they
were just stymied by the kinds of things that this
group was producing. It was just above and beyond anything
anybody had ever done. And we were lucky enough to
get Robin on the show a bunch of times. But
before we had Robin on the show, three nights before

(38:24):
we had him on, I woke up in my room
was filled with people from like the eighteen hundreds, and
I didn't know what they were doing there. But they
were also very i want to say, viscerals, like I
could reach out and touch the lace stress that one
of the women was wearing, and I couldn't figure out
why they were there, because at that time, Helene was

(38:47):
involved with all of this, and Helene was a very
good psychic.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Meadium like, why aren't they going to her? You know so?
But they didn't go to her.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
So anyhow, Dan's work was so extraordinary and it inspired
us to start our own group and to see what
kinds of things we could produce. So one of the
things that we produced in Chanelle asked you to put

(39:16):
the picture of Angel, my dog, up on the screen
for everybody. We were told, there's Angel. Angel was my
dog who lived over thirty five years ago and when
we got together. We were told to use a bell
jar and then take pictures of whatever came up in

(39:37):
the bell jar. So this is one of the pictures.
This is my dog, long deceased, and yet there she
was very clear as a bell.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
That's angel.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
So there was one of many unusual photographs that we got.
There's another one Chanel with that little being on my shoulder. Yes,
and this is you can see this thing is on
my I have no idea what that is except it's
an interdimensional of some kind. And there's another face right

(40:12):
underneath his face. But we had things like this show up.
We had things like this talk to us, and it
was it was a very humbling experience to know, first
of all, we're not the only ones here. There's a
lot of other interdimensionals. ET's all kinds of entities around

(40:35):
us all the time. We just don't know it. We
just don't see it. We're so focused on just everyday reality.
But there's that the other thing that happened, and this
was before we actually formally started the group. I live
on seventy five acres of land and there is a

(40:56):
very long driveway, it's about two thirds of.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
A mile long.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
There are no lights on this driveway. There's in fact,
there's no lights in the whole town. The town is
tiny and there's no lights, no street lights, there's no lights.
So we have cameras up and down the driveway and
driveway alarms, so if somebody's on the driveway, I know it.

(41:21):
And I went to get the cards out of the
cameras and Janel, if you can put the orbs up,
I'll explain these orbs. This is right before. Now, that
is an ORB that takes up the whole width of
the driveway.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
To the right is a deer.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Now that none of the driveway alarms went off, but the.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Cameras took this picture.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Then there was another picture right after that, and you
see that the deer moved a little bit. And then
there was another picture. And what's so fascinating is this
one looks like there's little feet.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
I was going to say, it looks like it's walking.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Right right underneath it. And that was the last.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Picture that was taken of this size orb. And I
showed these to Robin and he said, you know, we've
never gotten anything like this. We usually get it only
in our presence. That there was nobody there. There was
nobody on the driveway, and yet here this thing shows up.

(42:29):
We had another one which I didn't give to Chanel,
but it is same size orb, actually a little bit smaller,
and a coyote was standing right in front of it.
You could see the hair on the coyote's tail standing
up and it was scared to death. And then you
saw one more picture like that and then coyote is gone.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
I can see it.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah, but it was.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
It was a very good photo and it was very
meaningful because the coyote was there. Coyote was focused right
on that ORB. So we had lots of as you know,
I sent you a lot of the pictures that we
were getting lots of pictures, and they had to end
their skull experiment, which was very devastating for them. But

(43:17):
what happened was there was another group that was like them,
but in the future, and that group was trying to
contact their group. And when they sat down to do
the group that night, a time Lord showed up, just
like in Doctor Who, Time Lord showed up and said,

(43:39):
I'm sorry, but you can never do this again. You
are not allowed to contact your team. On the other side,
you're not allowed to do any of this with this
group anymore, and he told them why they were so upset.
They were devastated. They tried it anyways, and they were
hit with a terrible shrieking sound, so they couldn't concentrate,

(44:05):
they couldn't take it any further. But their team on
the other side, those are the some of the same
people that came to visit me three days before we
all met, and they had been working with Robin and
his group for over five years, so it was like
family to everybody, and they did so many amazing, amazing things.

(44:25):
So Robin went on and moved to Spain. He tried
to start a new group, and I was still doing
some work here with a new group, and I thought,
you know, I should reach out to Robin and just
say hello, see what is up to.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
So I called.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Him on Skype and I couldn't get him, but I
left him a message and because he was now in Spain.
And then we went to meet and our group and
I look up to see who's meeting with us tonight
from the other side, and there was Robin. And I

(45:04):
turned to my team members and I said, Robin, he's there.
And I was so surprised. And then I grabbed my
phone and I looked him up, and sure enough, he
had passed away a couple months ago, so he had
joined our team on the other side, and oh my god,

(45:25):
what a great man. All of what he accomplished with
that group just phenomenal. But how integrated it was with
some of the work we've done, and I so wish
I had been able to get him on the show
one more time.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Yeah, amazing, And I know the things that transpire.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I know, it's just incredible. And you know what else
blew my mind about his work and their work in
the UK is it wasn't much covered over here.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
No, I've really got no press.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
And I was horrified because I'm like, God, this is
like the best stuff ever, and nobody's talking about it,
nobody's sharing it, nobody's going, oh my god, we should
do more groups here and see if we can replicate
what they're doing.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
But we just nobody was interested.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
There is a movie everybody can watch on YouTube about
Robin's work. It's called The Afterlife Investigations, and it's an
actual full length movie about everything that they did and
how they did it. So I highly recommend that to everybody.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's amazing the things that transpire that basically in some
respects are totally normal, but we see them as totally abnormal.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yeah, and they're really not.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
I think calling them abnormal by what we now call
the mainstream media all of their hoaxing with what they
try to get you to believe, is using even that
term abnormal, like you were saying, it turns you off
to it.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
It's kind of a.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Warning, you know, warning warning you're getting in all the
things that you could be judged for. You know, you
could be seen as crazy, you could be seen as
you know, a little bit eccentric. Not a good thing.
So yeah, just labeling it like that, oh, definitely very
much to sway people. But we're now in a time

(47:31):
when it's been more accepted. So that's a good thing. Yes,
and no, say more what.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
What would you take a look at what's accepted today.
We're more aware of things that have transpired, there's proof
that they exist. But yet there's still that segment of
society that would rather demonize it and make it nonexisting
than to be able to bring this information together so
it can grow and open up and be get bigger,

(48:00):
so that we could actually see all of it instead
of bits and pieces.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Well, we need to see all of it. And I
think that's one of the whole directives of our show
is to bring more things to people to begin to
understand this. There was just somebody I was looking at
their work about giants and talking about how all of
these museums that have had the bones of giants, how
they've hidden them or they've destroyed them, or they've buried

(48:28):
them somewhere else, so that we can't truly know the
history of who has been here on the planet. So
there are people who have still have those bones in
place and no, and people who've witnessed museums destroying evidence
like this. But yeah, we deserve the whole truth and

(48:50):
we're certainly not getting it. We're certainly not getting it
from the UFO, and are we not?

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Hardly?

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Not?

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Hardly? Remember being at the Institute in Washington, d C.
And they were showing things from Brazil in the from
the people that were small people. They're different things, and
they were showing different masks that they used or whenever.

(49:19):
And I'm standing there looking at them and going, they
didn't look like them, so that was different. But I
looked at them and I'm going, my god, they looked
just like us. So a different generation or generations by
whatever standard. Nothing is new under the sun. If I'm

(49:42):
looking at something from the Brazilian point in time that
they say didn't exist anyplace else, and yet they looked
just like John Q. Public walking down the street today.
How did that happen? There were no planes, had no trains,
right right, drop die for dinner.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I guess, Well, someday we've got to have some of
tee drop in for dinner. We've certainly had enough experiences
of seeing them. You and I both seen that. And hey,
you're out in Arizona. You guys are seeing UFOs almost
all the time.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
The big deal where.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
You are, there's a lot of things going on that
it's so much easier for those powers that be to
tell you that they don't exist. Yet look at how
many people are seeing these things or being a part
of these things. Well, Bigfoot, we had.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
A guest die.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
They had their group that went up into the mountains,
and that they would take certain foods for them, foods
to be gone. They would hear from them, and all
of this ongoing yet didn't really exist. It didn't happen Geez,
isn't that funny?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Yeah, and you're thinking of doctor J. Matthew Johnson psychologists. She's,
you know, a highly regarded family therapist who have this experience.
So there's a lot of people who have who are
highly educated and have had these experiences and they are
not about to be quiet about things like this, which, hey,
that takes a lot of goods.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
It takes a lot to share all of this with people.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
And yeah, so we've had some good experiences ourselves. We've
just got the tip of the iceberg out tonight for
all of our audience. But if you guys have any
stories to share out in our audience, please get a
hold of us.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
We'd love to hear the story on the air.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
And hey, I'm sure there's some great ones because we
have a great audience, So I know we've got some
good ones out there. They've got to get a hold
of us. And you'll find our contact information on the website,
which is Supernatural Girls with the z dot com. You
will also find PK's information if you would like to

(51:58):
have a numeral logical reading and find out what's coming
for you, Just you in particular and get a hold
of PK and she'll set up a time and go
over all of your numbers with you and let you
know what's happening. And you'll also probably I know you
were giving people the number to change the energy of
their address.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
I've been working on mine.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
We've got to get back in touch with Lawn and
Deborah and all the people that you gave changes to
to see what.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Difference they're going for them. Definitely, yes, absolutely, take advantage
of everything we can because it's always a door opening
to another learning venture.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Yes, it is, it is.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
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Speaker 4 (52:52):
That's what I have.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
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I'll put that link up, and anybody who wants any
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me and be happy to share that. I'm not selling them,
but I use them, and I wanted to make sure

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that everybody out there who wanted one in our audience
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Speaker 3 (53:34):
Definitely sounds great.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yes, yes, So we're almost at a time I feel
like we just sat down to do the show.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Well, look, everybody, we're.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Going to be back next week and we're going to
have another great show. But in the meantime, we wish
you all the best, to be safe and we will
see you on the Blue Highway. Good Night everyone, good night,
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