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November 12, 2024 53 mins
Patricia Kirkman is an intuitive reader who uses her unique talents to help clients explore various metaphysical mediums. Over a thirty year career she has earned a reputation for being "the best of the best". A talented numerologist, Patricia is nationally recognized as a gifted and insightful reader who is respected for her honesty, integrity, and discretion. Patricia’s focus is always on the truth. She has a unique ability to take her clients’ personal numbers and translate them into past patterns and future directions. Her readings are always honest and her advice is unquestionably personal, private and discreet.  Patricia is interested her clients’ spirituality, health and well being. Through intuitive counseling she works to help clients understand the forces at work in their lives. Through Diagnostic Coaching and Rational Numerology© clients learn how they can neutralize negative influences and refocus positive energy. Patricia also utilizes astrology and celestial forecasting to encourage and coach her clients to expand their personal horizons, discover new directions, and achieve awareness and fulfillment in their lives.  Patricia is the founder and creative energy behind Tucson ’s own Mystic Messengers. She has brought together the areas most talented readers, healers, craftsmen and associates to host the city’s only regularly scheduled metaphysical event.Patricia can help move you closer to your goals and find new direction in your life.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Arch angels, ghost and Bigfoot. Oh my, it's just another
night for Supernatural Girls and real stories, real answers to
life's biggest supernatural mysteries. And now for another exciting interview
with paranormal experts from this world and others. Here's your host,
paranormal researcher Patricia Baker on the One the Only Supernatural Girls.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Welcome everyone to another exciting episode of Supernatural Girls. I'm
your host, Patricia Baker. I am here with p K
and she's our guest tonight. So this is going to
be exciting because it's our numbers, our destiny. It's all
about learning about these things so that we can get

(01:10):
help along the way, and we all need it. So
Patricia Kirkman has been a numerologist for many, many years.
She is world renowned and you know what, she'll tell
you the truth, even if you don't want to hear it.
She's going to tell you the truth. That's what you
need to hear. So you need to know. So we're
going to be talking about all things numbers tonight. If

(01:32):
you have a question, then you can feel free to
call in and ask whatever you'd like to ask about
your own path.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
So Miss p K welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Thank you darling. It's very interesting because this is a
one month new Beginning's fresh starts, leg everything out in
front of us. But it happens to be that we're
also in the month of Scorpio, so it's a time
to put things to rest that no longer service. It's
a time oh it's really transformation is taking place. So

(02:05):
you're going to find out that Scorpio, which is our
astrological month, teaches us about birth, death, rebirth, and that's
through transitions, making these transformations and changes. So that's what
we've got going for us for the month. But each
one of us have something different along with this. We'll

(02:27):
call this our umbrella, our personal month, and our universal month.
All this will have an effect on every one of
us depending on what letter of your name you happen
are you working under. So if you're unsure about something,
let me take a look at your first name. All
you need is your month and day of birth and
I can give you some information to start working on.

(02:49):
But I think that we'll take a look at things
that the last two months of the year. We're going
to find out are very pivotal because it deals with
our future successes. Also Scorpio, the side of death and
rebirth that comes before Sagittarius, which is the side of
the visionary. So in this last phase of the year,
it's important to release the old, make way for the new,

(03:13):
and make room for some amazing opportunities that can be
coming your way. Take time to look at things. Don't
walk around with the oh woe is me attitude because
at the end of the year we're worn out, tired out,
and then all of a sudden we've got all the
holidays in front of us, Thanksgiving coming, Christmas coming, need
to shop, need to stretch the budget, and God knows

(03:35):
that's what we've all been doing the last couple of years.
Sure you're going to make a difference because things are
going to get a lot better. Yeay, attention to things good. Yeah.
So I hate to say this, but Mercury goes retrograde
the twenty fifth. Oh no, okay, I'm sorry, But when

(03:56):
it goes retrograde, it's a good reminder for us to
slow down, check on where we are, what we're doing mentally, socially, spiritually,
because the retrograde periods can create issues that create misunderstandings,
tech mistakes, I just had my computer reworked again. I'm
going to keep my fingers crossed that it lasts throughout

(04:19):
this retrograde period of time. So anything to do with
communications of any form, written, verbal, etc. Pay attention because
it's going to make a difference. People don't always understand
what we're saying, so you're going to find out that
there may be some issues creating misunderstandings, whether they're not

(04:40):
only our technology, but travel, anything to do with meetings
and appointments. We're going to get ourselves a little bit
screwed up if we don't pay a close attention. Unfortunately,
we all have to do everything in a hurry because
we know we've got all this stuff to do. Instead,

(05:01):
we have to slow it down just a little bit.
So if anybody is curious about their numbers, they can
give us a call today. I'd be happy to take
a look at your first name or your birthday, and
we don't give your information out by your full name.
I would look at it here and then would chat
about it for a bit. But the most important thing

(05:24):
is if we take our month and day of birth
and add those together, reduce it to a single digit,
just like we're back in first and second grade, everything
down right across that will tell us what your number
is there. And we're going into a nine universal year,
so that would tell you that whatever that number totals,

(05:47):
that's the personal year you're going into in twenty twenty five.
It gives you a chance to take a look at
something different. So how does that make you feel, Patricia,
being able to take a look at that.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
It feels empowering. And I do have a question about
mercury retrograde. Is it a good time to pull out
old unfinished projects and take a look at them.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I don't think so personally, I wouldn't. What we're doing
is we're trying to make way for what's coming up
during the retrograde. It's to eliminate old the old issues
and bringing back into something new. I find that to me,
it's more important to take a look at what's happening
right now. Okay, people, places and things will revisit the

(06:37):
life sometimes for that quick review, but it's not to
keep it there forever. Okay, with the retrograde, we're going
to be tending to do things in a hurry. Unfortunately,
when we do that too quickly, we end up making mistakes,
so eything to do with communication, travel. I'll pay attention

(06:59):
to your bank accounts and things like that, because this
is when you realize, oh, I added this wrong, or
I thought I had this, and oh my gosh, where
did that go to? But sometimes it's to our it's
a plus side, but most generally we end up getting
a little nudge in the backside to pay more attention
towards taking place.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Absolutely, you know, I wanted to mention before we get
any further on this that people can find you in
a couple places. One is on our website, Supernaturalgirls dot com.
Your email is there so people can email you directly,
and they can also go right to your own website,
which is Patricia Kirkman dot com.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Either way to reach you.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Set up an appointment and take a look at what's
coming for the next year. So however you're finishing up
this year and starting next year, it's always a good
thing to take a look at those numbers so that
you're armed with great information. And I also wanted to
share something about one of our guests that was on
here recently, James Gilliland, which I don't think you were

(08:05):
not here for that one, but James is the owner
of East Seti Ranch. We had him on a long
time ago, and we had him on just recently and
I saw that he was doing sessions with people, which
I thought was interesting because James's focus is the ranch,
which is everything UFO, Bigfoot, all the paranormal stuff that

(08:26):
happens on his ranch, but he also does these clearings
for people. So I asked if he could do one
for me, and he did, and so apparently he works
with Kathy someone on his team and Myra, and I
have to tell you it was a very powerful physical
sensation when they started to do this work on me.

(08:50):
We set an appointment and it was amazing in terms
of what I physically felt there in Hawaii right now,
things and.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
My granddaughter.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, really, I'm saying you're freezing in the berkshires, But.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
It was amazing that I could feel what the energy
was doing. It was a very powerful experience. Then afterwards,
Myra gave me a call and we went over everything
that happened in the session. So if anybody's interested in that,
you can find that at e Seti Ranch dot org

(09:29):
or Eseti dot org one of those you'll find his
his information there and you can set that up if
you'd like. As we're coming to the end of the year,
you know, we try to bring everybody the best tools.
Oh yes, and certainly you have one of the absolute
best with the numbers, and James has one with the energy,

(09:49):
which we'll be talking more about what James has to
offer the next time he comes on. And it's next
week we're going to have down on for astrology, So
done is coming up. So pass the word everybody, and
also make sure you give us a like and a
follow on our YouTube channel and our website and Facebook
and everywhere else so you can keep track of some

(10:11):
of the things we're going to be doing. And we're
going to be doing some different things in the coming year,
which I think you'll be very happy with. So anyways,
go ahead, Now, what else do we need to know
what's coming up for us?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Well, I think one of the most important things is
with the mercury retrograde. It's very important that you pay
attention because misunderstandings can take place. You're going to say
I think this is black, They're going to say, oh,
what do you mean it's white? Because of the total
misunderstanding mishearing. But with the retrograde period. Mentally and socially,

(10:45):
we kind of get ourselves stuck in different places. Travel,
like I said, or inconvenience of any type. Would we
put our information out to somebody. We may say something,
they're going to assume something else. The misunderstandings or misquotes

(11:05):
or misunderstanding and number and looking at something that all
of a sudden, we've got all this chaotic issue going on.
We did it right, we just interpreted wrong. Does that
make sense? So it's really important that you pay attention
to things like that because everything sets in motion at

(11:27):
this point in time. It's we're eliminating things that don't
fit anymore. People, places, and things that no longer work
on our life at a retrograde kind of push it
to the curb and let it go. It makes it
a lot easier for everybody down the road. But we're
going into a nine year in twenty twenty five endings,

(11:49):
wrapping up of the old making way for the new.
So every month of the coming year is going to
have a very strong impact on us. And if we
take a look at our our own personal information, every
letter of our name revolves around a number. And if
we can take a look at where we are at
a given point in time. It'll give us our direct

(12:13):
route to make things happen in a pleasant way as
opposed to ending up going I've made a U turn
and I'm going backwards and set it forwards, because we
need to really pay attention. Our first letter, first vol,
first consonant of our name says a lot about who
we are. And it's if well, well, just say Patricia

(12:36):
the PA. The P is a seven, the A is
a one, so she's an eight personality. So if we
take a look at everyone's first vol, first consonant, that
tells us a lot about who the person is before
we even get started taking a look at anything else.
When we add our monthday, and year together added across

(12:56):
total it to a single number, you'll find out what
you're destiny number is.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's our purse?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
What is the destiny number? I find that one very
very interesting.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Well, that's our purpose for being here. We're here to
learn to teach none of us, shall we say we
can't take shortcuts in certain ways, but not when it
comes to the bottom line. But our monthday, and year
birth tells us what our destiny number is. What we're
here to achieve and how we're here to work through
it and take care of the things that are important
for us. So if we just add our month and

(13:30):
day of birth together, reduce it to a single number,
add that to what the universe is going through, that
tells us what our personal year is.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
So mine would be what three plus nine? Is that?
What done?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
That's a three? Okay, we're going into a nine universal year,
so you're going to be going into a three year.
It's going to be all about communications, creativity, putting things
out there. And look what you've been putting together together already.
And the new year hasn't gotten yet. Every October is
a preview of the coming year. We always get a

(14:09):
chance to get that sneak peek. But if we add
our monthday and year together, add it down, reduce that
number to a single digit, that tells us what our
destiny number is. We all have our destiny number to
work with. What numbers that we have by the letters
in our name, and we don't always have every letter

(14:31):
that's in the alphabet, obviously, but each letter revolves around
a certain number. We take a look and see what
numbers do we have that are missing? Because those are
where our challenges are. That's where we have to work
to make things, she always say, happen to make us happy.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Now do you call those karmic numbers the ones where
they're missing? Yes, any energy? So does that mean that
something happened in past lives? And it kind of makes again.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
It could mean that, or it also could mean that
we are here to learn certain lessons this time around.
Let's face it, would we take a look at things
we've all can't believe that we're only one time around
the clock. We have more often taking a look at
some of the things that are taking place, we go, oh,

(15:21):
wait a minute, this really looks good. But if you
take a look at the numbers of the letters in
your name, first of all, first consonant, that added together
tells us a lot about who we are. So I've
use Patricia as a because she happens to be here.
Unfortunately we both have the same neme. So, but the

(15:44):
P represents the number seven and the A represents the
number one, So that makes you an eight personality. You
like taking control of things, putting things in order. But
the seven tells me you're a teacher. You always have
been a teacher. You'll always be a teacher, but you
like to be able to put it together your.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Way, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
So when we take a look at things like that,
it gives us a different look at things. So take
a look at the vowels in our name. They each
have an impact on us. So when if they look
at my web page and sign up for our what
I put out every month, it will give you ideas

(16:27):
of what the month is about, what the numbers are about,
and what letters revolve around what numbers. So your vowels A, E, I, O,
and you the one is the A. The E represents five,
the represents six, the U represents three, so we take

(16:49):
a look, and Y represents the number seven. So each
one of these things have an impact because those letters
last for that many years.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Now, let me ask you a question about names, because
I got this question a lot, and I always turn
to you to get an answer on it. What happens,
say when we get married and if we take the
husband's name drop our birth name. Does that matter? Does anything?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah? Well it does and it doesn't. Let's put it
this way. Our name at birth is our key that
gives us everything that we have when we get married,
that name goes along with us. But unless we physically
change our name and we're ready to not doing that,

(17:38):
we don't legally change our name. So our birth name.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Is what we use, right. But then let's go ahead.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Let's say somebody decides they don't like their name anymore.
Like I know, that's very big in the pagan community.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
They just changed their names. You know, we've had a
lot of people.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Like that legal day becomes their new birthday. Ah okay,
So that's where the difference is. Every letter of our
name lasts for so many years. And when we're taking
a look at a chart, the first line would be
our physical self, which is our first name. Our emotional
self is our middle name that would go under it,

(18:19):
and underneath that would go our spiritual name. So when
we read a chart, we're looking at the letters across
one way, and then we read them down, which also
gives us additional information. So when we're looking at things
like that, well, I'll use mind for instance, PA and K,
which is my first, middle and last name, So I

(18:39):
would have to look at those numbers. And so the
P is a seven, the A is a one, and
the K is a two. So there are right right
off the bat. That tells me what I'm going through
that first year of my life.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Right right now, there are people with very short names,
which means they have a lot less numbers in their name.
And I know you and I were talking about someone
who's from Taiwan who has a.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Very short name.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I think there's what six letters in the whole name
of that, And I wanted to ask you that creates
a whole different issues. Like with a short name, very
few numbers, it would look like there's a lot of
karmic issues there is that what happens not necessarily.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
The numbers may not be karmic for them. The numbers
may be good for them.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Okay, So when they're missing numbers because their names.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Mystery numbers in the given name at birth. Now, I
know that some people utilize the alphabet for different countries,
et cetera. I don't. I use ours, and what I
was in Greece that confused me a lot because their
letters are different than ours in some respects. So I'm

(19:55):
stick I'm going to stay strictly an American girl.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah. Really, And you look at names like.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
William the King seemed to be King of England, I mean,
they have these names that just go on forever.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
It's like, because that those are his birth name, we
would look at every one of the names.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
So there's a lot more energy, right when you have
that much in your name, when it just goes on.
And I don't like that. I mean, they have like
seven trail of seven or eight names.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
But sometimes we take a look at the names they use.
You know, they may be given that on their birth certificate,
but they may also only use certain certain names or
take a look at it in that direction. But it
all depends on what we're looking for, what we're trying
to find out. The most important thing is I find
the first letter of our name and first fallfers consonant,

(20:51):
because that gives us a good handle of who we are.
And when we take a look at some of the
letters that are missing, that gives us what we're here
to work on and what we're here to do better.
We don't have every letter of the alphabet in our name,
so when we're missing certain letters, when we take a

(21:13):
look at how they relate to one another, that makes
a big difference of when we're looking at things. I
was looking at something here one number means that the
person is independent and very strong. So when we add
all the numbers of a name, say it ends up
being a ten, we would reduce that to a one.

(21:35):
So one personality would be a number there where the
person's very independent, very strong willed, and they can be
either very sensitive or very generous, very dominating, or very jealous.
So it depends on how we look at the rest
of the numbers that go with the name. If it
reduces to a two, they can be very gentle and sympathetic.
So we take a look at the names, the numbers

(21:58):
in the name, that will tell us what the personality is,
what the different personalities are involved. You find that people
that deal with the number seven, you find them very intelligent,
very quiet at times. Eight that's deals with money, so
that makes them very successful, many times very charming. So

(22:19):
I'm just going to scoot back to the number one.
They're an independent soul. They like to do things their
own way. They don't like anybody telling them what to do.
If we're a two personality, we end up being very
gentle and sympathetic to what goes on around us. Three
makes it very happy and charming and very outgoing. Afore,
they can be very straightforward and very practical about how

(22:41):
they want things to be. If a person is a
five personality, they're very temperamental, but also very lovely because
they like changes. Six personality reliable, artistic, very caring, more
than the family type. A seven personality very intelligent, more quiet,
more reserves, and eight very successful and charming. They work

(23:03):
very hard at success. The nine can be very tolerant
and very down to earth. They're more spiritual. They seem
to be part of the world at large. They're caring
what other people feel and think. There's a lot going
on that way. So what we talked about as the
possibility of these numbers, if a person's missing these same numbers,

(23:29):
that makes it difficult for them to be able to
do these things right. Yes, in fact, somebody told me
a long time, but I first started with numerologies. Some
would said, well, if you look at a person that
house numbers, they have an effect out all of us
as well. I live in a nine house. This is
what I do. I work with other people all the time.

(23:51):
A seven house, I'll find out they're very spiritual, usually
involved with the political or policy or police, and or
they could be the opposite side of the spectrum and
be the thief. You just don't know. So every the
ying and yang positive negative of every number yep.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, and then the personal choice that people make also, yeah,
there's I mean numerology, it just affects everything. It's it
has to do with your business name too. That makes
a difference the name you give your business. But I
know a lot of people have come to you to say,
is this the right business name for me to use?
So that they're free of blocks and they can be

(24:35):
prosperous and what they're doing. So it's always good to
check that. Always good to check your house number. And
as you mentioned in another show, you can actually change
the energy of your house number if you need to
without having to actually go and do a legal thing.
So that's very interesting how some people called up on

(24:56):
the show and they gave you their number and you
help them change it without actually having to go down
to you know, uh, well, because or whatever.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Live at a certain block, there's no way you're going
to get your number house number change.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Right, right set up.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
But the thing that's important is you're living in that house.
That house absorbs your energy, so we can make the
house feel comfortable towards and for your energy by changing
the number in a way that makes it beneficial to you. Right,
So the little trick you can take by adding something

(25:35):
to your address doesn't have to be publicly on the street.
It doesn't have to be on the house, but you
can put it in your doorframe. The additional number that
will give the house number a different effect. But you
don't want to give it a number that's a problem
for you because I client that's a but I want
to make a lot of money, so I bought everything

(25:55):
to be an eid. Well, that's great, except she didn't
have eight in her chart. She didn't have aids in
the world. So what she did was she set herself
up for constant failure because there was no way she
was going to come out of that. But by changing
where she can learn and or be taught things that
were different or enhance other aspects. A one person or

(26:17):
a one number means very independent and able to take
care of and do things for themselves. A two number
likes a partner or a partnership. They do better working
with other people. A three number makes a person very creative,
very outgoing, very social. They're kind of everything fun, more uplifting,

(26:39):
more colorful. The four number deals with the details of things,
making things more positive, everything more black and white, because
you build a stronger foundation with the four. With the five,
there's a lot of changes that go on. And five
also has a luck backter threes and fives all have

(27:00):
a luck factor to them, so there's opportunity for changes
and good things to take place with that six deals
with family, family type responsibilities, and they like things to
be oh apple pie, that kind of thing you know
at home.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Everything's answering.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
And the seventh they're more spiritual or the teachers of
the students and always working on advancing something or making
something different. The eight that's basic bottom line is show
me the money. I want to make money. I want
to do it. I want to be in charge. I
want to be in control. And the nine person they're
the teacher, but the very strong spiritual aspect of things.

(27:42):
They want to make the world a better place to be,
a better place to be in. So we have been
getting ready because we're going into a nine universal year
in twenty twenty five. That's going to make a big
difference for everyone because we're going to be looking at
how to make life better, not just for ourselves but

(28:05):
our neighbors, the people that we deal with on a
day to day basis. We want to build things that
are going to go forward and enhance the world instead
of trying to strip it down.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Well that sounds great.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean that's what we need and it makes sense.
I've heard from some of our astrologer friends and by
the way, everybody, William stick Evers, who's been on the
show a bunch of times, so we absolutely love and trust.
He was one of the very few astrologers who predicted

(28:38):
the outcome of the election properly, so he got it right.
And I saw a long list that was posted of
all the astrologers who didn't get it right. But William
got it right. And I've heard from him and other
cable have taken a look at our future and they

(29:00):
said that our whole existence is going to change so
rapidly we won't even recognize it, which it sounds very exciting.
I mean, it was all set in a positive light,
we wouldn't recognize it. I think with the new technology
they're going to be introducing and other things like as

(29:20):
you bring up quite often, things are going to come
to light they're going to be actually declassifying a lot
of things that we've wondered.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
About, definitely, So that.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Will also change our consciousness and all the people who
continue to think that mainstream media is telling the truth
will be surprised to find out they're not.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
So we'll have more coming to light.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Well in the nine year It gives us opportunity to cleanse, clear,
get rid of make way for the new. And that's
really what the nine is all about. We're getting a
push right into it, right off the bat with the retrograde,
because anything that we say or do communication wise is
subject to falling apart, getting rearranged or redone or done over.

(30:13):
And so we're going to get a chance to eliminate people, places,
and things from our world that really don't fit anymore.
That's what the nine years all about. We can make
way for the new things to take place and embrace
what's new and different. Instead of being against everything that
we think might be against us, we have to remember

(30:34):
that we're all here to work together in one form
or another.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yes, I mean there was a lot said about what
was being forced on us over the last four years
that there's a lot of questions would we find our
way out of it, and clearly we did with quite
a lot of support and force in a good way.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Again. But I'm very.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Interested to see with this nine year coming into being,
cleaning out the old, what is going to be in
front of us. It sounds very very good, So it's going.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
To have some shake rattles and roles that go with it,
because each one of us are going to be in
a different personal year, anyone from one through nine, and
the destiny number that we'll be working with is going
to have a big effect on all of us. A
person that's going into a one year is going to
all of a sudden decide they've got all these great ideas,

(31:32):
they want to try something different, and they're going to
be more inclined to do that. Where before it's oh,
i'll do it later, I'll do it later. Well, this
is later for them, this is their new beginning. People
that are in a two year, you're going to find
many of them all of a sudden has a great
idea that want to go into a partnership, whether it's
marital relationship or business, all of that type of thing.

(31:55):
Anything doing with the joining of two will you'll find
will be very good with them in this coming year.
Three personalities. They're the creators. They're very artistic, they've got
great ideas. You know, maybe in the past they've been
a gray black, etc. And all of a sudden, they're

(32:16):
going to be coming by with the flamboyant pinks and
breads and whatever. You going, wow, what happened? Because they
that uplifting period of doing things. Those that are in
a four year all of a sudden, they're going to
get a good idea, maybe I should get involved with
land and property, Maybe I should start investing in something
like that. Excellent time when you're in a four year

(32:39):
because it deals with the details of things, and it's
a good time to make money because you're going to
be practical, very very practical about it. And those that
are in a five year, well, they're going to be
the little speed demons. They're going to do everything. Get
to hurry. They're the ones that are going to be
sitting along side of the road with a copyright and
the ticket out because everything's going to be for the

(33:00):
quick fix. But it does have a luck fact. Threes
and fives always have a luck factor to it. It's
going into a six year, they are going to be
so involved with their family, putting things together family wise,
things they can do with the home, or spending time
where they can just really enjoy. All of a sudden,

(33:21):
something didn't care to cook so much in the past.
All of a sudden, now they want to be Julia Childs.
You know, all these things fit. And those that are
dealing with the seven will find that they want to
be the teacher. They're the student, but their spirituality jumps
way up there. When the seven's around. We have an
opportunity to not only to learn, but also to teach

(33:45):
in a way that gives us strong feelings of positivity.
And that's a real good feeling.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
It is.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
And those that going into their eight year it's their
money making time. That's the time when they're going to
start investing, looking at things that are going to be different,
how to make it different, and they'll start looking at
the checkbook and the katching and kitchen is going to
be the big deal for them and being in control,
and those will be the ones that will teach others

(34:17):
how to do it better, make more. And then the
nine there, all of a sudden, it's about humanity at large.
What can I do for somebody else. They're the ones
that are going to be helping somebody across the street,
or helping somebody with getting that sandwich that they need
desperately or something, because people are going to start paying

(34:38):
attention to helping other people more. That's what this coming
year is going to be all about.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
How good I'm.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Going to start really feeling empathy as well as being
in control of how they think they should be done.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, let me ask you a question. So if somebody
is a nine, if that's their number, and they're going
into a nine year, are they tending to be more
comfortable in that year because it matches their energy?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
That would be the case, as well as the fact
that they're going to be more capable of doing more
when our numbers match up. It's like getting a shot
of adrenaline. Things get they excel, which is the best
that we could possibly do, which is always nice to
have happened.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yes, yes, absolutely, Well, this is going to be a
very interesting time, this whole experience. And I've talked to
a lot of people. I know you have two feel
really good that after the election, it has shifted and
people are some people, not all people, well, a lot
of people are feeling really good.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
People are scared, they're worried because of what we've been
going through these last years. And nothing's perfect. It doesn't
matter who you like or didn't like. Each one had
something about them that drew you to them. Take a
look at what it is that made you feel more comfortable.

(36:11):
What is it that we have to learn to do
different in our world to make it better for the
whole world.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, I think the voices were heard loud and clear,
which is good. I mean, what's so interesting to me?
I lived in Massachusetts, a blue state, and yet you know,
there were a lot of people who voted read and
it was when I looked at the breakdown, it was
really pretty shocking how many people voted all read. And

(36:47):
it was really great to see that there was enough
room for people to change their mind from being somebody
in the blue wave to somebody in the red wave.
So there was a lot that people gave thought to
to make that big of a change. So I think
people came out of these four years really thinking about

(37:08):
what was going on and making different choices.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Well that's pretty inspiring.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
I think that had a lot to do with it.
I think also one of the things is that we
have all been looking at our day to day life,
our bank account or lack of groceries, the way everything
changed so drastically these last few years. That was the
driving force that made people make changes this year. And

(37:37):
no one feels really totally comfortable with how things have
changed because of the bigotry that we're seeing right now
with different nations, different situations. If we could all just
learn to get along without the negative spin on everything.

(38:00):
It's like watching one show and they're anti everything that
you think is right. Then you go to another one
that's anti everything that you just left. And if we
all put something into this to make it better, how
much happy we could all be. You know, we have
so many people on the streets right now. It's got awful.

(38:21):
It doesn't matter where you go or where you look.
People need help. We can't give them help when we
are ourselves are they are in the debts just tried
to get well.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
It can't be done at the expense of the American citizen.
And I think that was very clear, loud and clear
message that was given. You're not going to do it
at our expense anymore. So there's that I think people
found their voice, people spoke up, went to the voting
booth and did it. You know, they changed it in

(38:54):
a really positive way, which is great. And so you
look at that, you look at the internal ass effect
of that, and then also how our world is going to,
I believe rapidly change as a result of everything around
us that has changed. But we're all part of it,
which is great. And yeah, it's easy to say, let's

(39:15):
all get along, but you have to look at Oh
why haven't we?

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Nothing is perfect, Nothing is perfect one person. Everybody will
go through one year somewhere along over a nine year period,
we'll all go through that one year. Everyone wants it
to be fresh, brand new, fresh starts. Let's do it
my way. But somebody else that's now in a five
year they want to make changes. They don't want to

(39:41):
put up with what you want just for you. Yeah,
every one of us have a different personality, and we're
going to have to work at making things work together
because if nothing else, we've seen that, if we don't
work as a unit, God help us all. Because the
world is a very agile place today.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
It is, it definitely is.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Epis and such as that incredible, It shouldn't be. We
should be helping one another go further to make life
better for everyone. Not this. Ugh, I don't know what
you want to call it, but it makes it very,
very difficult to explain to youngsters you shouldn't do this

(40:27):
because when they're watching it happened every day on the news.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Well yeah, and I mean not only that, but to
paraphrase that story about the ants, you know, the red
ants and the black ants. They get along just fine
until somebody starts shaking the jar. Then they start fighting
with each other, so it's like the question is who's
shaking the jar?

Speaker 4 (40:47):
Good?

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Good point.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Get back to some of your insights, because i've heard
you say very specific things about people's first names, like
the name Christopher. You said they like to tell half truths,
So tell us about that. I'm sure there's other names
you can add to that, but that was fascinating.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Well, they're very sensitive, and so consequently, many times we
try to protect other people. We don't say the whole story.
We just say enough to make it feel like it's
going to be okay. But if we say too much,
maybe we'll make them uncomfortable, and the next thing you know,
they're upset because you said the wrong thing and you're
going but I was just trying to make you feel good.

(41:33):
Does it always work that way? One personality type for
people like to be in charge, and they like to
put things in order, and they like to make a
list of what they consider the better way to go.
And when we take a look at a person, well
we'll just use the name and for instance that a

(41:54):
upfront is by way or the highway, but it has
a double in which is each what is resolves around
the number five. So when we take a look at
it's an eleven two personality. So they're very sensitive. Even
though they come across as I'm in charge of why am?
They're ultra sensitive. So if you shut them down for

(42:16):
what they're trying to say, they take it personally want
to go off and pout. And it's how we present
things if we take a look at how the different
names resolve as far as making life better or worse
for all of us. Nothing is perfect, but everything has
a good and a bad to it.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, so it's a choice of what hilarity you're going
to be expressing. But I just thought that was fascinating
that just from that one name you were able to
determine a very important personality trait that these people have
with that particular name.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Yeah, well, first of all, first consident and if you
if they go to the website, they'll be able to
see what the numbers represent, which each one is. But
each one of devolves AE I O. And you you've
got a number right there and put it with every
other number or every other letter. You have another number
that goes so first golf, first consonant says so much

(43:16):
about a person. If there are one personality or if
there are two, each one has their own way of
presenting things.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
But let me ask you about health, because you've been
able to also look at people's charts and have a
sense of health issues.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
It's but coming.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Down, you know, down the road towards them or at
them or whatever. But how do you determine that? What
do you look for?

Speaker 4 (43:40):
All Right? If a person's in a four year, we'll
say four deals with land property, but it also deals
with health and healing. Six deals with alternative health issues
or dealing with that. A seven also deals with the
teaching and the or the learning of different aspects of health.
So when we break down a person's name, the numbers

(44:02):
that are involved. Certain years are going to give us
certain things that we have to work with or look
forward to working on. Anytime. See a person's at a
four year health wise, I say, take a look at everything.
That's a great time to go get a good physical checkup.
That's a good time to pay attention to the details
of things. All of a sudden, I've got an aching back.

(44:23):
I don't know what's going on. Hey, you're in a
four year, go find out. That's what you do. In
a one year, you want to be in control and
teach putting things in order. If you're in a two year,
you want to deal with partnerships, relationships, and you're sensitive
to what everybody else needs, and you want to make
everything nice. In a three year, we're very creative, very outgoing,

(44:44):
very social. We want to show people how to get together,
how to make things pretty. That's the four is about
dealing with the details of things, building a strong foundation
really that deals with our health and healing as well.
The five makes us deal with changes, good to bad,

(45:06):
bad to good, a constant change. But there's a luck
factor going with fives and threes. So depending on what
year you're in, you can enhance what you're working with
and what you're doing. If you're in a sixth that
deals with alternative health, alternative healings, dealing with things that
are a little different from the conventional norm. I'm going
to the doctor. This is when you can take a

(45:28):
look at research going and take a look at things
that are different. The seven the same way the seven
as a teacher the student, but they're always looking to
make things more important than some of us want to
let things slide. But that not only being the teacher
and the student, but also it's our spiritual side that

(45:50):
we take a look at. We don't know many times
when the sevenths around, we keep secrets to things. We
pull everything back. We don't want to upset anybody else
hold on to things. And then with the eight, it's
I want to be chairman of the board. I want
to run it all that. I want to show me
where my money is because I want it all. I'm
going to take care of this and now that I've
got it all, I can share it and do what

(46:11):
I want to do with it, make it better. And
then when you start working with the nine, stuff that's everybody,
that's the world at large. That's the fellow on the
street corner with this handout, And that's the fellow in
front of the stories ringing the bell waiting for you
to put your hand in.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
But let me ask you about again missing numbers.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
So so somebody comes in and they're missing like six, seven, eight.
But let's say that they have a lot of nines.
They have a lot of spiritual connection, they truly want
to help other people, but they're missing those other numbers
that come before it. I would imagine that makes it
a little harder to access than the nines. There's no

(46:54):
circuitry for it.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Well, if you're seven is spirituality and the teacher. If
if we're missing the seven, it makes it awfully hard
to be very giving and spiritualistic to help everybody else
up if we don't have it within ourselves. If we're
missing the aids, you worry about having enough money to
feed your own and take care of the needs that

(47:16):
you have, so you're always striving whatever plus and minus
the number, look the positive and the negative of every number.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
And right, I was just thinking, you know, it's like
there's some people I've looked at their charts and what
I see is they're missing the connection for something that
might in fact really be helpful to them because they
haven't worked on themselves enough, you know, to become aware
of these issues. That's what's so important. I think about
having a chart done like this so that you can

(47:47):
tell them this is where you need to put your energy,
this is what you need to work on. Then you
can access these gifts of the nine or the eight
or whatever. But until you do that, going to have access.
So that's why I think these charts are really an
important more than a clue.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
It's a map, well it is, and I consider it
a roadmap because for the day we're born, we're given
they look at the clock. Okay, this is the time
you were born. Oh, this is the date you're born. Oh,
this is the address you're going to. This is your
social Security number. This is all these numbers, every one
of them revolves around who you are and makes you

(48:30):
who you are because then the given name each has
their own numbers. So what's missing or added to enhances
how we're going to progress in this lifetime or where
we're going to stubble and fall? And sometimes when we
stubble and fall gets another big boost coming from another
direction where we not only learn more, but we're more

(48:51):
of a teacher to make everybody else feel better. When
someone's had a client that was not feeling well, and
they were very concerned. The husband they didn't have a
lot of money, so they were very concerned. The mother
was going in the hospital. So the father felt this
was going to be the end the way things were going.
So they gathered all the people together, put them up
in a hotel Phoenix and so that they could be

(49:14):
with the mother. And I said, it's not necessary. Everything's
going to be fine because it has to take care
of itself. Okay, Loan the whole father called me two
weeks later and he said, well, I should have listened.
I could have saved myself a lot of money. She's
doing just fine. Yeah, but the numbers give us our roadmap.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Yeah, it is, and I think it's I mean, in
terms of astrology, I just there's some big differences. But
to me, the numerology that you do is much more personal.
Much you can grasp these concepts. You can walk out
of a session and feel like you now know exactly
what you need to do. If you wanted to get

(49:55):
to all of your gifts and deal with the things
that have been in your way. So yeah, I think
it's really really important to follow that. Find your destiny number,
know what you're here to do, makes it so much
easier rather than guessing and try to make pieces to
the puzzle fit that don't fit well.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
I think to me, the most important part is find
out what's missing, because that's where you have to do
the work. If you're missing a specific number, work on
that one. That's a better way to go.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, exactly, No, that's really really important. And we unfortunately
we're going to have to wrap up in just a
couple of minutes, but I hope everybody will go visit
your website, which is Patricia Kirkman dot com see if
they can set up an appointment to get their own
personal chart one to carry them into our new year

(50:51):
with all of this wisdom and all of these very
good choices that they will get to know and make
in the coming months. Again Patricia Kirkman dot com. And
we have your very good friend coming in next week,
so we should tell everybody about that. We have Don
the astrologers coming in. She is going to do free

(51:14):
readings for people, So if you would like to join
us for that show. Make sure that you make a note.
It'll be next week at the same time, six to
seven Eastern. That is, let's see what are we on?
Four to five? Arizona time three to four? All crazy
with this time change. I'm so adjusting. So anyways, yes,

(51:38):
read the word for us, please and let everybody know
that Don will be here.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
PK.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Want to thank you for hopping in again when we
had another guest from the UK that was all set
ready to come in and talk about his new book
on the anomalies of UFOs, but he was unable to
make it at the last minute. So very grateful PK
that you were able to come and enlighten us once
again with numerology. Always appreciate it so much.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
I've always enjoyed it because it taught me how to
live better. Yeah, it's really the bottom.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Line, Yes, and we all deserve better lives, and I
think we're all going to have more of an opportunity
for that.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
So it's time. It's time. Yay hip hop peree Yes
for sure?

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Ready or not here it comes.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yes, that's right, So Don the astrologer will be here
next week. Make a note on your calendar. Please give
us a follow on our YouTube channel and you can
watch us there as well as on Rumble, but on
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(52:48):
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a note. We'd like to hear what you want in
the coming year and continue to provide great conversations. So

(53:12):
until next week, everybody, we'll be back with another great
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