Episode 168: 764 - The Hidden Epidemic Infecting the Internet - Supernatural Occurrence Studies Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to my world. Bitch, wow, god good here.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Welcome to the one hundred and sixty eighth episode of
the Supernatural Occurrence Studies podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
So Economically Paranormal.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
My name is Jason Knight, host of the show, and
with me as always EA is Oscar Spector, producer extraordinary
and podcast co host. How is it economically paranormal?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Because that's how they're bite size, They say, if time,
we save you money.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
We're bite size and we save people time and money. Yeah,
donate to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Donate to the show. But oh yeah, that's age.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
We do have to donate. But on the on the
website in almost what ten years, no one's ever pressed it?
Eight years, nine years, whatever? In one hundred and sixty eight, Well,
it's got to be closer to I don't know one
hundred and eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
You ever heard the ninety ever pressed? You ever heard
of that backhanded compliment, compliment people say about certain celebrities.
You have a face for radio. Yes you ever heard that? Yes,
we don't have that.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
No, that's pretty sad. That's what age does to you.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
So what's up, man, what's been going on?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
What's up? Is the ceiling and in the sky. But
what's going on well lately. Uh, it's funny because I
was I wasn'na have you started up, but I guess
I will start up. I tossed to the ball, No
big deal. I had an interesting couple of scenes than
us times that I had recently. I went to you know,

(02:04):
I've been going I mentioned on the show before, I've
been going to the I've been going to raves in
the city in Chicago where I live, and I went
to one two weeks ago. Maybe no, whenever, whenever the
pri pary was in Chicago, whenever that was. But it
was like the day after I think, or had to

(02:27):
be the day after, because I know that's in the
morning and I went at night, so I know I
was like I missed it. But they were tearing down
still all the sets from the Yes in Boistown on
Halstead Street and where is it Avenue Street Street, thank you,
and that's where the that's where the ray was and
it was so it was so hot.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
There was a raven where Unholsted it was.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yes, in boys, it was called those, it was called
those Tequilas. That was the name of the of the location.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I actually think I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, it's like a half a block from Hydrate. I
think one of the big Yeah, yeah, you know that
one that used to be the manhole. Actually, yeah, I
do not.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's not a joke.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah no, I don't know. Yeah. I used to go
to Berlin in the old days, pre COVID. Then they shutdown.
Now remember I remember the shutdown. I don't know what
it is now. Anyway, I was there. It was so
hot ya.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I just I'm getting the creeps right now.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Just it was like levels of hot, like near the
door was the coolest, Like in the actual dance floor,
it was so hot. It was so hot.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
How sweaty were people that you were rubbing up against?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Extremely achine a sheene, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Like I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean we're all basically naked there, but still not enough, you.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Know, not enough. You wanted more nudy.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I guess so because it was so hot in there. Anyway,
And now I went with a friend who I've been
kind of like like she wants to go to all
these rays with me. Now, like this is her second
one with me. We went to a different location last time,
and she's going for the next two. I think we
got tickets for them all, and yeah, sure, I've been.

(04:10):
On one hand, it's been interesting convincing somebody who is
like in her late thirties to kind of go back
out like what she used to do in her twenties.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Are you guys a thing is this?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
No? No, no, no, no, she has a partner. Oh okay, okay,
it's just just like friends. Just like friends, and we
we just dance that. We just dance until our legs
hurt basically, or feet hurt. No no, not yet, no,
not yet. I imagine there's an opportunity that my that
may arise that I will say yes too. But until

(04:41):
that day, I'm not like, I'm not fishing for it,
you know, I'm not going for it necessarily. I'm not
seeking it out. If it happens, it happens. I definitely
met some interesting people. I met a few transplants, quite
a few transplants.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Really where you come from?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
I think one North Carolina? One is someone needs coast.
I don't remember where I know, No Carolina. It's also
these close but I don't know where. We're talking to
them for a while and they're like, oh, yeah, I
just got your last year in my own man, how's
it been? Like it's crazier, Like, yeah, thank you, Like
it's nuts here. Everything's so expensively yeah, I know. And
uh so anyway, my point is that I was there

(05:16):
for post Pride fun I guess, and the outside was
just as busy and packed with people as the inside was. Damn,
that's how crazy that evening was, so many people walking
around either lost or going somewhere. At some point we
had to look for a bathroom. We had to convince
this lady at at a vape store can we use

(05:36):
your bathroom in the back, and like it's like, well
buy something, like you're like yeah, fine, so she les, Yeah,
that was very surprising. Usually the don never led us
to that. So that was like the recent fund I've
been having that I wanted to just bring out say.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I think I think it's interesting. I've never been to
a rave in all my life. I've never been to
a rave. Concerts and march pits and stuff, but raves
never been.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I mean, you're like one degree away from it. It's
really it's not that dissimilar. Really, Yes, that that is
not live. I mean the DJ is there, I guess,
so that's the live aspect of it, right, But if
the beats are obviously different, you move to the beat
only basically you You don't have to, but that's what
I do.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Sticks. Are you fucking with close? Sticks?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
No? They do have themes. They had themes. So this
one we went to. Have you seen the movie Saltburn?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I haven't yet, So the theme.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
The theme was Saltburn, okay, and it was called slutburn
of course, so everyone stretched as the characters from that
movie for the most. There's a lot of antlers, a
lot of wings. Some people had like a cross.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
I've seen the movie once. I don't remember that well,
and it's a crazy movie. I remember that. I remember
him humping a grave. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I watched that movie.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I heard it pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's pretty wild. Nown So that was the theme. It
was a lot of fun. I met. I see a
lot of regulars there because it's like my fourth or
fifth now, so it's starting. I'm starting to see like
some of the regulars that are always there, and we
actually actually talked to one of them. One of them
approached me, this beautiful young girl approached me, like, oh
my god, you're going to the next one, the accessy
ry and like, yes I am. I'm like, oh my god,

(07:06):
I'll see you there and stuff. So like we're gonna
have fun probably huh yeah, Well.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I mean that's fun. We've got out there, people sweating
on each other catching ringworm. Fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I don't know what that is. We don't catch anything.
I haven't caught anything right yet. I'm not gonna. I
don't pract the future, Jay, That's not what we do here.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
We don't do that here.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
We did a show on Nostra Dominus, but we are
not and we're not him. No, no, we're not. So
I want to ask you. You know, this episode drops
on the first of July, which means that in independence days,
right around that corner. Did you have any plants for
the fourth?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
You know what, usually we go all out. We have
a real good time.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
You usually do. It's almost like in Stone.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Right et can you guys come here with that?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
And Halloween with you? So the top two you can
reliably anticipate a gathering with you.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yes, and uh, And we always have a good time,
big barbecue, lots of fireworks, lots of drinking, swimming, things
like this, this time. It's very, very low key because
the very next day, on the fifth, we're headed to
Florida for two weeks. Right, and people have been listening
to the show for a little while they know I
fucking hate to fly.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
So I'm driving.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
So I got to get up real early in the
morning and drive for thirteen hours to the other side
of Atlanta, and then we'll finish up the next day.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
And when he said he's driving, folks, he means all
the driving is done by him. He does not trust
anyone else to do.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Nope, Nope, I would. I think I would let my
daughter drive now, I would, really before before my wife, Yes.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Because you trained there like a Jedi, like a Jedi
trust as apprentice and no one else.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I had one.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, yeah, what I meant to say.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I would, I would let her drive, I think before
my life. But don't tell Katie I said that.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know, I'll tell her to listen to the show
this week, this or this month. I'll tell Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
But we're I mean, we're super excited. It's been a
really rough year and you know, we just need we
need a break. So we're doing three nights in New Samarna.
I have an ocean Front Hotel and balcony. Looks boom right,
there's the ocean. We love New Smart It's just this nice,
quiet beach town. And so we're gonna start there. Then
we're going to central Florida. We'll wind up doing Daytona,

(09:09):
try to get to Saint Augustine.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
So it's gonna be famous for other races, is that correct?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, right, well Daytona Speedway. I you
gonna watch that one just came out.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
No, I'm not interested. I am.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I'm not like massively interested, but I want to see it. Yes, yeah,
looks cool.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
So yeah, this year Fourth and Dry is low key.
We'll do a little bit of fireworks. We'll have just
a daytime barbecue. I want to be in bed and
out by ten o'clock.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah. You're a big you have a big Florida lover.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah. Yeah, that we were supposed to move there, and
I think that's ultimately still the goal eventually. Yeah, you know,
so we but we do try to get there as
often as possible, so we're gonna be doing that. I
do have a couple other things, so I got into.
So there's this show on Netflix and it's called The
King of Collectibles, The Golden Touch, Okay, and it's about

(10:00):
this very famous auction house. It's a it's a riveting,
you know, docu series, I guess you would say, on Netflix.
And I forgot to tell you this. I co signed
something to them, to this auction house. Okay. So, man,
I don't know, twenty something years ago, I'm really aging
myself here, dating myself here, but maybe even a little

(10:22):
bit longer. I was a huge White Zombie fan, Okay,
Rob Zombie before he went out to do his own
he was White Zombie, right, Yeah, loved White Zombie. I
still love White Zombie all that, all that classic like
early nineties shit, right. And so I was hanging out
with a guy his name was Art Scott. He was
in a band out in LA and he and Early
White Zombie. His band and Early White Zombie used to

(10:45):
tour the LA circuit together all the time. They were
really good friends. So you know, flash forward. However, many
years my friend Art, he had this cassette tape. But
it's not a VHS tape. It's something called an odd
thirty aud three zero and it's much larger than like
a VHS tape, and it was the music video for

(11:07):
Black Sunshine, which is one of White Zombie's most famous songs. Ever,
it's like thunder Kids sixty five and Black Sunshine, it's right.
So this odd thirty tape is what Geffen Records. That's
who they were with at the time. Maybe they stayed
with Geffen the whole time, I don't know, but at
that time when they cut this song, they were with
Geffen Records. So that tape is what Geffen Records would

(11:29):
send out to like MTV, VH one, I guess, radio
stations and things to get plays and get them interested
in the band and things like this. So it's like
early White Zombie memorabilia, right. And this thing has been
sitting in a container at one of my cousin's house
for ever, for good. I even had the damn thing.

(11:50):
She wound up moving. We had to go to her
house and clean, clean stuff up, take things out, finally
bring a lot of stuff that I had there from
years and years and years ago to my my home now.
So I'm looking through these these containers, I'm like, holy shit,
I forgot all about I had this tape and I'm thinking, like, man,
I wonder if this is worth anything. So I contacted
something just on a whim. I took pictures of it,

(12:12):
and I contacted this Golden auction house and they said, yeah,
we're interested. We'll take it on consignment. So I send
it in.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
And what does that mean? On consignment?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Meaning there they'll auction it for you.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay, they'll on your behalf like i'm your name.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
They do all the marketing, they post it, they sell
it the whole. And one of the things they're doing
is they're they're like grading it, authenticating it. That's what
it's going through right now, this authentication and grading process.
I don't know what's on that tape. It could be
fucking blank for all I know. It certainly doesn't look
I mean, it's a legit piece from Deaf and Records,
but I've never seen it because it's such an odd format.
I never had any equipment to play it, of course

(12:47):
not so you know, there's part of me that's worried, like,
oh my god, what if it is blank, or what
if it got magnetized and eraised. I have no idea
what's on this tape, So it could take The guy
said It could take a little bit, you know, maybe
a month or so to get it graded and authenticated.
But once it's done and if it's in good quality,
they're going to put it up for auction. That might
be worth a ton of money.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
They can put it on this show that you were
talking about on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh I doubt it. I doubt it. I mean, they
have auctions in every single foe.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
But that's the same people. It is where you're saying
that that has the show that authenticating your tape, They're.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Going to put it up for auction for me. And
these people do million dollar baseball cards, right, A million
dollar Pokemon card? I mean, any sports collectible you could imagine. Dude.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Can I tell you one of my biggest life regrets
is not understanding as a kid what a collectible was?
Many Pokemon cards I collectible? Oh so I say poke, Yeah,
I mean Pokemon, but also Yu gi oh. Also Magic
the Gathering. Not that I ever played Magicgether, but one
time I cousins that was really into it. They left
a few decks behind it. And I haven't talked to
me about ever since because we've moved on and I
have him still. Anyway, point is I've had a lot

(13:51):
of collectibles that I could have.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh, bro, we all have.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's insane how much I threw them away and between them,
like shit, I know I had. I had a Golden Charsard.
I had a sedition Dragonite on hollow. I had like
all this stuff I don't have anymore. I had a meal,
one of those, the most expensive meal I had it.
I also had the Eyeland mew from the movies. Like,
I had all these cards that I see now as
a praise, you know, on random sits and times that

(14:15):
I don't like seek them out. I just like find
them here and there. They'll be like, oh, the most
expensive one. The people the video would be what's your
most expensive card? And they'll bring up a car that
I used.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
To have, Like a fuck, that's that makes you sick?
Doesn't that makes me sick? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:27):
For sure, it makes me sick. I have a few
things that I still have that I'm hoping I haven't
checked them or anything like, like I have a ton
of hs. Not that that matters as much because I
know that those were made due physical media is by
physical media is you'd be surprised how much that Well,
maybe we'll see I have. I I have very little

(14:49):
hope of that, but we'll see. But I have a
lot of that still, I like over two hundred and
I have an old, actual old Bolex camera from the forties.
I want say, well that the cranks the camera, the
cranks and shoots about twelve seconds said time. It's no
film or anything, but yeah, I have that. Yeah, so
I have those little backups for whatever my actual things

(15:13):
that saved. But otherwise the lego I have and that's it,
you know, right, yeah, which I'm not selling stuff, So.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Everyone pray, you know for me that that thing was
worth a lot of money and I might have a
little fortune sitting right there. So I contacted them again
today with another piece that I have that I'm interested
in putting up for auction, and it's well, it's a
Bruce Willis signature. Okay, So in two thousand and two,
Bruce Willis he had a band.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, back in the day, you tell me this story?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Did I tell you this?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah? I don't know if you did on the show though,
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
So he used to have a band back in the day,
and when he did music stuff, he went by the
name Bruno Randolini. Okay, that's what he would call himself
for his music shit Bruno Randolini, but it was Bruce Willis.
So in two thousand and two, my wife was my
girlfriend at the time. My wife worked at a very
famous bar in Wrigley, the Cubby Bear, right right across

(16:05):
from a Cub's Park. So one night she was working
and Bruce Willis came in with this band and I
can't remember the name of the band itself, but she
wound up being his merch girl, his merchandise girl for
the night, and before he left, he signed this hat
that says club Bruno and Bruno again has to douce
with Bruno Randalini right like his name that he would

(16:27):
go buy his club Bruno, and then he signed it
Bruce Willis two thousand and two. That cool, and it's
been sitting in my closet ever since two thousand and two.
Dusty and she I'm like, oh my god, I have.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
This thing and you're wrapping something.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
From what I understand, he didn't do like tons of signatures,
especially now you know, unfortunately Hew things people are looking
for for.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
That, So I think sweet Spot is still upcoming for that.
But yeah, you're close to it the sweet spot to
sell it.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
I mean, yeah, I don't want to think that way,
but people are interested again in his autograph and his memorabilia.
So I contacted them. We'll see what they say. I
haven't heard back yet, so I might consign something else
to this golden auction house. Who knows.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
So that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
And then last thing, I don't know. This is really
exciting for me. I got Violent Femmes tickets to see
them in Milwaukee, where they where they started. They're going
to be playing their first two albums in entirety in October,
and I got tickets for me and my wife. Super excited.
Like the Violent fems I know them very little.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Really, Yeah, it's like here and there.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
It's one of my favorite bands.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
But I know, you know, that's all I got right on.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
We should really probably switch gears here. Yeah, tonight is.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
I think it's a fun show can be on not
fun at all. I think it's super fun.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
It's the this is it's bad. So we've we've done
some fucked up show in the show. Junko for Duto
was was pretty bad. Aderina Chrome and all its conspiracy craziness.
There was some some pretty sick themes in there. Yeah
they're true or not. Of course, Junko is true John Gacy,
of course that was pretty bad. I think this one

(18:11):
tops all of those. This is it's and I fucking
hate that I have to do this episode because it's
not really an episode. It's more of a PSA.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Oh now I'm intrigued. This is Yeah, you had my
entert now you have my inath. There's a way that's
saying is better than that. I forget what it was.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, this researching this doing this when I heard about
it from I heard it. There was an FBI release
on this, and it caught my attention immediately. I'm a parent, right,
and uh, this really makes me lose all fucking hope
in humanity. This thing right here, that's how bad this
shit is.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well, luckily for me, I already lost the hope, so
I have no.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Where to go. Yeah, so I'm just going to issue
a warning here. There's some really really sensitive topics this one.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Okay, with that, folks, we're gonna take a little break
and stay tuned to listen to what we have again. PSA, PSA.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Welcome back to the show. Listeners. Well, the lights are
turned down low, the ceremonial candle is lit, and the
drinks are flowing. Let's start this show. So, like I said, I.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Am issuing a warning on this one. Sensitive topics, Viewer
discression advised.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Viewer discretion certainly advised.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Or listener discussion. I guess you have viewing.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Anything listener discretion, viewer discretion advised. Yeah, there's a lot
of links for self help in the show notes. Please
check those out.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Hmmm, yeah, have you ever done that? Before?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
We have? There was a couple episodes where we put
I don't remember pre different prevention hotlines and things. Yeah,
I don't remember the exact show oftimes, but it's happened
if Ioki Gahara when we did the Ioki Gahara forest episode.
That makes sense, right, I don't even know if this
you know now that I said these like suicide for example, Uh,

(20:27):
I don't even know if it's gonna be able to
air on like our YouTube channel or anything like that
because the sensors, because there's there's a lot of I mean,
this is all nothing but banded topics.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
So I don't understand how a topic can be banned.
You'd be surprised, like I mean, to some extent, to
some extreme Western extents, like, for example, we start talking
about the positives of Hitler's rain. That's not good. I
get that being banned.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I don't even think that would be banned, a lot
of stuff like.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
But this, Okay, Well I don't know what we're talking about,
so I'm really curious. Yeah, yeah, why what makes you
think that we won't be able to play on some platforms?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Oh right, because we were kind of talking off off
during the break there. Yeah, so again, warning, let me
repeat that. A lot of help in the show notes,
clickable links. If you're struggling, if you're hurting, you are loved,
you do matter, talk to somebody, and we put clickable links.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, my phone numbers on the line on the show
notes too. If you need to talk, I'll put I'll
put it.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'll put my phone on there. I'll talk to any
of our listeners. So and then again PSA, this is
this is more of a PSA episode. People need to
be aware what the fuck is going on because it's
not being covered very much. Not a lot of people
are talking about it. You don't really see it in
mainstream media. But it's happening, and it's happening to our kids.
This one hit home especially hard because I'm a father, obviously,

(21:53):
so I felt this, this has to I had another
topic already planned out, but this took precedence because people
need to be aware. Parents, teachers, authorities need to be
fucking aware of this and watching for science. Okay, drinking,
what are you drinking?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I'm gonna I need to drink.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Before this one.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I get whatever you give me, all right.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
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it is, because I don't really want to talk about this.
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(22:37):
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Speaker 1 (22:44):
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(23:10):
for Kentucky owl, I think he was the coo of
of all the Kentucky owls, God blessed of all of
those owls, the owl from the Toucchio commercial right the
Tochi pop. How many does it take to get to
the center to pop that owl? He's the CEO of
that owl, like he represents that owl, right, that's what

(23:30):
you're trying saying, right, right? Is a headwig? Is that owl? Too?
Famous owls?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
It was four roses. He was the coo of four roses.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I just want to kill time for you to get.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Thank you very much. Now he's with Kentucky owl. So
again it's this collab between Irish whiskey UH and American whiskey.
And it was put out for Saint Patrick. And it's
not bad. It isn't bad after all.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
That that was rough.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
That was rough, Oscar, ma'am. They don't march in the
streets or hide in the shadows. They build their empire
in plain sight. Click by click, share by share across
chat rooms and social media feeds. They call themselves seven six',

(24:17):
four but they stand for, nothing or, rather they worship
the void itself like a. Nihilist, actually, yes THE us
authorities call it nihilistic violent, extremism but we're not there.
Yet so to seven six,', four, hope, weakness order, a

(24:40):
lie innocence the. Ultimate weapon in the darkest corners Of,
the internet the seven six y four, network thrives a
decentralized swarm of extremists united by a single goal to.
Burn society society to the ground and dance in. Its
ASHES as, I said us authorities call this movement nihilistic,

(25:06):
violent extremism but to, its members it's a. Sacred mission
they don't just, embrace chaos they, engineer it one atrocity at,
a time and their most grotesque task tactic is targeting
the very soul of, our civilization. Our children seven sixty

(25:29):
four believes that the only way out is through, through collapse,
through horror through the destruction of all. Moral boundaries because
when nothing, is left, they claim everything. Becomes, Possible okay
so this is the story of a movement, without mercy

(25:50):
a digital contagion more dangerous than any man. Or bomb
it's the story of seven to. Six four.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
They soundists.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
EXPLAIN that i haven't heard the term in.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Political terms may not be an. OFFICIAL term i heard.
It around and then THE reason i know it half
as Well as i'm about to say Is because i'm
a little, Like THAT like i can see the value
of that a, little bit Not saying i'm just people
the value of being, an accelerationist where accelerationists basically in
political terms means THAT they i thinks are so fucked

(26:25):
up that we should try to get there faster so
we can. REBORN faster, i see so we can get
they're kind of what you. Were saying get through it
politically means, that like tear down all these. Horrible institutions
i've gotten this here to all the problems we have
capitalism in nature, or not and get through, it fast

(26:47):
like the downhill. Of it because we're in, the downhill
we want to get down faster so we can get.
UP faster. I see you know that's basically that's, a
nutshell and there's more, to it but that's. A.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Nutshell okay then in, A sense i would probably a
lot of. Similarities there now the seven six Y four
network is a global online extremist group THAT the us
authorities classify again as nihilistic. Violent extremism prosecutors say its
members weaponize child sexual abuse MATERIAL, or cesam and extreme

(27:21):
violence to advance an Accelerationist agenda holy, shit, right okay
or the belief that society must be pushed to collapse
to enable. Radical change it's the belief that the way
out is the, way through meaning the only way to
achieve a desired future is to push the existing system
to its, breaking point thereby creating an opportunity for something new.

(27:45):
To emerge and how do you destroy the current system
by completely debasing and morally annihilating the very thing entrusted to?
Protect it our youths explicit goal is to destroy civilized
society by spreading fear and. Sowing degradation according TO The

(28:08):
doj Department, of justice seven six y four exploits, vulnerable individuals,
often children to produce horrific. ABUSE material fbi agents report
that members of seven sixty four compete with each other.
In brutality the, more gore the more violence that raises

(28:28):
their status, among members treating sadism as a badge of
honour inside, the network the abuse content itself becomes. A
currency prosecutors describe seven six four members compiling graphic images
and videos into encrypted what's called lore books that are

(28:49):
then traded and displayed to recruit newcomers or to boost
one's status in. The group in, multiple indictments leaders in
seven sixty four taught grooming tactics and set strict content
quotas for. New recruits they forced miners to commit horrific acts,
on video and then circulated that footage. Among followers we're

(29:14):
talking children being forced into, self, mutilation assaults, animal cruelty.
Even MURDER one dlj complaint warned that seven six four's
followers systematically shame and train victims so thoroughly that some
victims actually become subjects who then attack others, under orders

(29:37):
creating this vicious cycle of inhumanity Kind of stockholm syndrome
on a, global scale and streamed right into, your homes
into your. Kid's bedrooms the seven four network's predators deliberately
seek out, vulnerable children exploiting their emotional distress and stablish

(30:00):
false friendships through calculated love bombing and. Grooming tactics they
manipulate these susceptible miners into believing they've found genuine connection.
And kinship then the. Trap springs if you, trust me,
prove it a demand, for nudes if we're, really friends

(30:22):
you'll do this, FOR me a coerced act, on camera
something wildly out, of character and just, like that the victim.
Is ensnared once control, is established the demands, escalate rapidly sexually,
explicit material graphic self, harm videos even forced acts of,

(30:43):
animal cruelty all captured, on camera and any resistance is
met with ruthless, blackmail threats threats to leak the, content
publicly kidnap, the victim or harm their, family members and
the sole purpose to extract increasingly extreme material through relentless
psychological terror against children in true scumbag edge. Lord fashion

(31:09):
and that's exactly what these pieces, should are fucking four
chan edge lords at trying to. Level up the seven
sixty four network glorifies pass mass casualty Attacks like columbine
and blends in other, extremist ideologies oftentimes with hard white
supremacist leanings And even. Satanic leanings per, Federal, complaints victims

(31:32):
some as young as ten, years old have been forced
to carve swastikas satanic symbols and the group's aliases into their.
Own skin participants in the Seven six more network have
even left the digital world and slithered their way into the,
real world having been accused of everything from robberies, in
person sexual abuse, of, miners kidnapping, weapons, violations swatting. And

(31:57):
murder between twenty three and twenty, twenty four two individuals
who were part of the Seven Six ford network hired
hitmen to firebomb and shoot at their young victims' Homes.
In pennsylvania NOW the fbi sounded the alarm on the
sinister seven To six ford Network in september twenty, twenty

(32:19):
three exposing its mission the hunting and exploiting miners with,
Suicidal thoughts but that was only. The Beginning by december twenty,
twenty FOUR The us Department of justice unmasked one of its,
Key Players, baron martin a twenty year Old, From, tucson
arizona arrested for producing child sexual abuse material. In cyberstocking

(32:43):
martin admitted to running extortion schemes within seven, sixty four
even forcing two thirteen year old girls to carve symbols
into their, own skin AND the dj didn't. Mix words
they branded his crimes horrific and labeling seven sixty four
a dangerous network of violent extremists hell bent on tearing. Society,

(33:04):
apart now the case took an even darker Turn in
january twenty, twenty five when nineteen Year Old, cameron Finnegan
a Sussex, FROM, sussex uk pleaded guilty to. Terrorism charges
a member of seven six four since late two thousand
and three twenty twenty three, Excuse me finnegan weaponized its

(33:26):
ideology to manipulate a teenage girl into, attempting suicide an
act that was live streamed for the depraved gratification of.
His network his sentence six years for trying to get
an underage girl to kill herself. On, camera Then in
march twenty, twenty five The FBI's Internet Crime complaint center

(33:47):
issued another urgent warning seven sixty four's grip. Was tightening
the network was now systematically, target carding targeting children on Platforms, Like, Rollblocks,
discord instagram And, even SoundCloud proving its reach, was, growing
evolving and more dangerous. THAN ever, i mean my Kid.
Plays rollblocks you know my daughter Has.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
An instagram my nephew also Plays.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
See Then in april twenty, TWENTY five us and international
authorities announced a. MAJOR Indictment Fbi Director cash ptel confirmed
the arrests of two alleged seven to sixty four. Ring Leaders,
parsan nepal a twenty year old Male From north carolina
known within seven sixty Four, is Trippy and leonidas viagianis

(34:34):
a twenty one YEAR old us citizen Living in greece
Known as war within seven sixty Four War Go. Fuck
YOURSELF the doj charged them with leading an international child
exploitation enterprise in the seven sixty. Four network the indictment
alleged that they ran seven Six four's. Inferno subgroup they

(34:56):
forced victims to, self harm including cutting signs and so into,
the skin and they amassed child sexual abuse materials to
use as currency for status within seven. Sixty four these
two pieces of shit threatened and forced their victims to
engage in, self mutilation to engage in online and in person.

(35:17):
Sexual acts they were forced to, harm animals sexually abuse their,
own siblings, attempt suicide and even commit. Murder children, of
course everything was either photograph or taped and. Then Shared
now i've convicted these two assholes are looking. At life in,
my opinion death penalty for anyone involved in producing, this shit.

(35:41):
No question.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
They all seem, pretty young all. These members, yeah yeah
wait to hear who? CREATED this i mean it's that.
NAME war i mean it's very.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Young, YOUNG yourself i whop your fucking ass.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Nice sky shadow.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Or.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
SOMETHING sorry i also.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Just these are like fucking like four chan moderator, jag,
offs yeah who are trying to level up and, they're.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Like whoa that's the thing IS that i remember in
the in the heyday of four chan, eh chan and
we talked about those stories about, like tangentially not like
specifically about, four chune but we talked about people who,
you know part of their descriptors before, they murdered and
we talk about. Their murders, it's, like oh they used
to go on pour chanor something.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Like, that. RIGHT yea.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I remember, thinking like what's what's worse? Than this like
what is? Actually worse like because THINGS keep I never,
i keep, things keep people keep coming with the creative
ways to. GET worse i mean seemingly like what is
the next boss level?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Of?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
This right and this is this sounds like. It's it
THIS sounds, i AGREE and i, NEVER really i mean
makes sense that will be online the way, it is
it makes sense that they want to. Capture it the
blackmail makes sense like all that probably could, have predicted
but to this extent, not really, that's crazy not, me
obviously but there are people whose jobs is to think
about this to hopefully. Stop them so that's good that

(37:02):
are people thinking. About it. But damn it also reminds
me of that Movie compliance have you? Seen?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
That, oh yes? Remember where assume it, was, McDonald's right.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I think it was like at McDonald's, type type and
they this guy impersonates a police officer over the he never.
Meets them this is like almost like a pre internet era.
Type behavior this guy would be on their top ten
and seven six war Right. Of members that's how good this, Guy,
was like that's like the level. He is and This

(37:34):
guy cole calls this fast, food joint pretends to be a,
police officer says that a young was one of the
young people that. Works there, blonde girl. Young, girl yeah
who he's just guessing that one. Works there he has.
No idea he guesses all that he happens to. Be
right there is a young blonde girl working stole a purse,
from somebody, that's right and they have to detain her
there while he makes his way there because she, can't

(37:56):
leave she can't escape the scene of the crime and
the and, from there the amount of things this guy
over the phone entirely he's in a. Different state he's
not even there. At all he's not like across the street.
Or anything he's not like monitorting. Their camera he's not
getting off like he's getting off on what. He's saying
and he convinces them to do horrible things to this

(38:18):
girl and to each, other technically but also to. This
girl basically convinces them to do all. These crimes and
the saddest thing about this is that there's based on a,
true story where the true story is. Actually worse they
made her do worser things than they did in. The
movie and the film director who made the movie, famously
said not famously famously, to me said that we had
to tone it down because if we actually put exactly

(38:40):
what happened in, real life people would find. It unbelievable
that is how crazy that.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Story is that is seven six four, before, Seven.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Right that's what that, Is exactly that's what it reminds me
of the way it's, brought up the way he gets
he gets off, on it the bad guy in. The
movie he gets off on it because you see his.
Scenes too he looks like he's jerking it off, on
this having so much fun. With it he just can't,
he's excited. YOU know i feel like that's what these guys.
Are Feeling, Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
So compliance definitely check.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
IT out hm some, TWENTY twelve i want, TO say
i remember.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
And a true story based on a. True story now
people are gonna TELL you i have zero hope in
the humanity anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
After this.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's crazy, so yeah death penalty to dean of. These.
Fuckers now As of may, twenty five so just, last
MONTH the fbi has revealed staggering numbers in their fight
against seven to. Sixty four there are over two hundred
and fifty active investigations ACROSS the us, right now with
every single one of their bureaus fifty five field offices

(39:41):
currently handling at least one seven sixty four. Related case.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
So every field office has like a member or something in.
Their area is that what that means least at least some.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
One member something that in their area and they're within.
Their jurisdiction what that jurisdiction, LOOKS like i, don't know
but something that they, would oversee every single one. Of,
them now the network has now been officially classified a domestic,
terrorism threat reflecting the severity of. Its crimes in a,
JOINT Statement Us Attorney General pam BONDI And Fbi Director

(40:16):
cash pattel pledged to dismantle what they describe as quote
one of the most heinous online child exploitation operations, in
history and their success would mark a crucial victory in
protecting our, nation's youth not, our nations our. World's youth
because this doesn't just happen In The.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
United states seems to be based. Here though so it's
start by what, You're, saying, yeah so and we're gonna
do LIKE an x rated weather underground.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Whether underground oh what?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Was that the political group against our government in, the
seventies sixties and seventy it was. Sixties seventies they didn't,
harm people but they blew up empty buildings and try
to Take, down yeah they were like terrorism domestic there
wasn't but, like again they didn't. Kill people they were much.
More altruistic BUT again x. Rated version altruism is not
even in these. People's, vocals, no yeah not even. A

(41:08):
little they wouldn't be called nihilists.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Or.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Anything yeah probably not the weather on. THE ground i,
mean yeah, oh sorry sorry. These, people, YES no i
meant the. Weather, onderground, SORRY.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Well i mean so believe it. Or not the seven
six four network was founded by a fifteen year Old,
From stephenville Texas Named. Bradley cadenhead now listeners go to the,
show notes there's there's photos THERE that i could find of.
These Fuckers bradley cadenhead included the one who created seven. Sixty,

(41:38):
Four now bradley, was truthfully he was an adorable little
kid who came from a close, knit family a family
known in their small town for never Missing a sunday.
Church service is not? That always how it is like the
most fucked up people. Come from if.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
You're having me o personal thoughts about, organized religion how
the stifles of creativity out, of youth then he you
were talking about to the wrong. PERSON here i don't
think that is a, great way, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
That's me but so that's what the, family was non
never Miss, a sunday. Great family but at, age Ten the.
Cadenhead family Only when bradley, was Ten the cadenhead family
began to fall Apart after bradley's parents. Split up his
mother left and spiraled into heavy drinking and just this
kind of. Chaotic lifestyle and, At school bradley was being.

(42:26):
Bullied constantly he became, severely isolated and he started. Suffering
breakdowns he began obsessively looking at images and videos. Of
gore he made threats against, his school talked about guns and,
making bombs and teachers they didn't want him in. Their
classroom they were legitimately afraid of. This kid so by
the age, Of fifteen bradley dropped out of high school

(42:50):
and withdrew completely into. Online life now from, his, darkened
cramped fart smell bedroom lit only by the globe of a,
Computer screen bradley harnessed the Power, of discord a popular
gaming and. CHAT platform i use, It, right yeah, everyone,
DOES right? I mean and that's where he carefully cultivating,

(43:13):
this cultivated, this domineering sadistic, predator persona which in turn
attracted both victims and like minded individuals from around. The
world cayden had named his group of sadists seven sixty
four after the first three digits Of, His stephenville texas.
Zip code that's where the name.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Comes FROM so i was gonna ask you at some
point if you didn't. Tell me i'm glad you.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Told me now it's Just, His stephenville texas, zip code.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
You.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Know, now suddenly this, once isolated bullied nobody became a
notorious predator of the social. Media age he posted tons
of image images of child pornography and gore on, his
discord hiding behind lazy moderators and the platforms of relying

(44:00):
largely on other users to report abuse that others that
occurs in private chat rooms known. As Servers, on Discord
caden head claims he had little interest in, child pornography
but he liked to use it to recruit predators to
his group and to control and. Intimidate people now under The,

(44:21):
alias felix caden had pressured young victims to send them
sexual images, of themselves and then he would blackmail them
by saying he would send those images to the victims
family and friends unless they performed self harm or degradating
sexual acts. On camera and remember these. Are kids he's doing.
This too he would then boast of his Extortions, on

(44:43):
discord where he was praised as a god among his
piece of shit cult of. Online followers in one, online
exchange caden had pressured a ten year old girl to
send nude pictures. Of herself, in another he encouraged a
user who had survived a suicide attempt to, try again,

(45:04):
SAYING quote i could give you a guide on how
to kill yourself ten different ways that are. Very descriptive
since you're so fucking stupid and can't kill, YOURSELF correctly
i want to watch somebody kill themselves in video chat.
End quote just, just vile demonic behavior perpetrated against the
most innocent and weak and disturbed. Among us in Instances

(45:28):
where cadenhead was flagged and Kicked, off discord he would
simply create A new discord account and resume his. Perverse
activities and that's exactly what these people do to. Evade
moderation seven sixty four continually splinters and. Renames itself Whenever
a discord account, is banned Members like cadenhead immediately reappear under.

(45:49):
New aliases an Investigation by wired magazine found thousands of
seven sixty four related chat groups are still active. Right
now discord reports that in twenty, twenty three it blocked
over one hundred and thirty seven sixty four related servers
and thirty four. Thousand accounts but new ones just spring.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Up constantly all you need is a different email If, that,
YEAH yeah, i know a million.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Headed snake how do you? Stop it you cut one,
head off ten more.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Pop up and that's just one person that can, do
that not not not multiple people on not accounting for.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Multiple people it's a literal. Fucking virus you just can't. Stop, it,
yeah Anyway caden head was very active, on discord and
it was also very active on The, app telegram which
is cos a, fucking cesspool incredibly popular with pedophiles and
peddlers of child sexual, abuse material.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Also as super famous for people wanting to. Have affairs
oh is? It, really yeah THAT'S why i. Have it not,
FOR affair, i mean not. For, that yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Adults you're looking. For adults that's, perfectly FINE.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
That's, i mean that's A basic if you know someone
out Of that, telera account they're either A little cd
or they're out trying to have hun and want.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
To, laugh so, you know a friend of mine turned
me on to telegram a couple of.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Years Ago if i've got fact for, some girls if
you Have.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Touched yes so he, was military he was text military and, he's,
like yeah this is how me and my buddies. We communicate,
oh yeah, oh. Yes right so so, he's, like oh
you should join. Find ME so, i DID and i.
THINK it i haven't had it in a. FEW years
I think i only had it for a MONTH and
i just never. Used IT but i DID find i
think there was like a suggestion or people you may

(47:34):
know sort of feature. On there the lady down, the
street this dude's wife that we used to hang, out
with she was.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
On, there Really and, i'm, like bitch.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
What are you? Up TO because i was good friends with. Her,
husband yeah and her husband wasn't. On there she was.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Fucked, UP well i mean it doesn't mean. THAT'S that
i mean the most harmless reason. That exists it's like
WhatsApps for so you can talk to people across the across. The,
countries yeah so that's the that's the most wholesome way
you can. USE telegram i don't use it, for that
but and most PEOPLE that i know, Don't Either so

(48:10):
i'm kind of pigeonholes. To That but i'm sure it
was created with that.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
In, mind yeah, oh yeah it wasn't created to be
a cesspool of Child born.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
It's Like only fans wasn't created. For porn but it's,
mainly no not. Even close they've got to. Ban it
and then there were least ones going on. Our platform so, they're, like,
okay well let's the pornographers or whatever. It is the
only fast is famous because of no way THEY well,
I know i remember when. It start it, doesn't matter we're.
Off Topic But only fans was created for. Different, reason continue?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Got it? Got? It yeah so so he was also
You know Discord, And, telegram, yeah right WHICH For CPAg and.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Now if you say kick, different story.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
It's it's a cess pool for. That ship, but parents
you got to monitor your kids, online activities, ask questions
look through, their phones, their tablets, their laptops listen to
conversations they have online while. They're gaming because seven sixty
four Also uses minecraft as their hunting grounds and ROADBLOCKS like,

(49:07):
i mentioned where they find young victims and course them
into escalating sexual and, violent behavior pushing these kids to create,
graphic pornography harm, family pets cut themselves with, sharp objects
or even die. By suicide, for Example a, connecticut case
police found that a seventeen year old was lured into
seven sixty four by an overseas member she met. On

(49:30):
roadblocks the predator later communicated with her on discord and
convinced her to shoot bomb threat videos for. The group,
and again these assholes have watch parties where members of
the seven sixty four network will watch as a group, children,
debase humiliate and violate themselves in the most vile ways in.

(49:51):
REAL time i hope every one of these fucking animals
dies a. Horrific death and, you know my. Son roblocks my.
Son constantly Minecraft, loves minecraft, YOU know, i mean he's on.
These Platforms so i've talked to him about all this
as SOON as i learned. About it, YOU know i made.
Him aware my, daughter too even though, she's older made.
Her aware you got to talk to your kids about,

(50:13):
this stuff no matter how uncomfortable these. Topics are they need.
To know you can't. Sugarcoat it you can't hide them. From.
It Now bradley cadenhead was ultimately exposed and taken into
custody following a convergence of social media platform, moderation reports law,
enforcement alerts and a detailed. Forensic investigation according, To investigators

(50:34):
cadenhead was first identified through moderation reports from Platforms like
Discord and telegram that detected and removed his accounts for
sharing sexually explicit and. Harmful content discord escalated the matter
by reporting the activity to law enforcement And The national
Center for Missing And. Exploited children as, a Result, The

(50:55):
Stephenville Texas police department AND the fbi. Combined Effort the
STEPHENSVILLE p d obtained a search Warrant for. Cadenhead's home
they seized his computer and sent it to a state.
Crime lab the lab uncovered extensive evidence thousands of images
and videos depicting child sexual abuse and self harm Orchestrated

(51:18):
by cadenhead and. His followers through their joint investigation and
her forensic review of his device, and devices authorities were
able to piece together the full Scope of cadenhead's, online
activity and it brought him. Into. Custody Now in august twenty,
Twenty one cadenhead was formally arrested at. Age sixteen he
wasn't even sixteen years old when he was doing.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
This shit so he was on for over.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
A year and.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
That's it. That's it it's.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
About that he was charged with multiple counts of, child
pornography possession, and distribution and despite being, a juvenile the
severity and organized nature of his crimes led prosecutors to
try him as. An adult court Documents from march twenty
twenty three Show caden head eventually pled guilty to nine
counts of possessing child porn stemming from his role in

(52:07):
founding and running the seven six y four sextortion. Sextortion
network he received an eighty year, prison sentence essentially life.
And good fuck. This monster prosecutors justified the hefty penalty
By emphasizing bradley's role as a self styled, cult leader
his pattern, of sextortion and his leadership over the disturbing

(52:30):
content shared in the seven sixty. Four network The Prosecutor,
jet smith it's a, Great Name jet smith told the judge.
During sentencing quote very rarely do we get a chance
to look evil in. The face this may be one of,
those times Talking. About cadenhead. End, Quote now cadenhead's, Current Attorney,

(52:50):
chris perry said he is considering an appeal based on
potential mental, health concerns but he declined to comment. Any
further so we'll see what happens, When THAT but i
hope he dies in prison. Damer style now what we're
about to, share, next well. It's shocking i'm not trying

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to be sensational or sensationalized, the stuff but it's shocking
because this is actually happening right now in the digital
spaces where our kids SPEND time a lot of. Their
time the seven sixty four network's crimes aren't abstract threats
or dark dark. Web rumors they're documented cases with real
victims across multiple states. And COUNTRIES so i want to

(53:34):
talk about some of the more infamous cases that have
come out since seven sixty four, was exposed just to
give you a level of the depravity and how serious
this is and how urgent. It Is, in ARIZONA a
doj complaint Details How baron martin Twenty, Of tucson arizona
talked about him a little bit earlier under the alias

(53:55):
convict you. Fucking pussy these kids pissed the pissed me off.
So much they just pissed me off, so much. Fuck
you proclaimed himself the king of extortion within the seven
to sixty, four network boasting of instigating thousands. Of extortions
in one, Horrific case martin chorused a thirteen year old

(54:17):
girl into carving his Name and nazi symbols into, her
body then solicited others to, harass her and even offered
three thousand dollars to have her kidnapped or killed in.
Real life the complaint alleges That in september twenty, Twenty
two martin produced child sex abuse Material on discord by
manipulating two miners into. Self harm he forced a thirteen

(54:39):
year old to mutilate herself with threats of leaking, her
photos and later demanded she carve his, moniker convict, some
swastikas And a satanic symbol into, her, chest stomach. And,
Thighs separately martin directed a sixteen year old to scratch
herself with, her nails ordering her to, draw BLOOD saying i.
Want dripping she was then instructed to pour rubbing alcohol on.

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The wounds martin filmed her agony then shared it with
others in the seven sixty. Four network martin also cyberstocked
a different thirteen, year old threatening her grandmother's life by
allegedly placing a three thousand dollars hit, On her he
docked their contact information and incited other forms, of harassment and,

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of COURSE the doj Officials condemned martin's case, as horrific,
you know underscoring seven six four. As Brutality, In, vernon
connecticut a teenage girl and trapped by seven, sixty four
was caught issuing bomb threats at her school and posting
images of her own. Self harm police found photos of
her with cuts on her body and playing with seven

(55:47):
four seven sixty. FOUR symbolism Fbi Counter Terrorism Chief david
scott said this case illuminated seven six four's aim to.
SOW chaos a fourteen year old Girl in oklahoma was
swayed to Send Felix Or bradley cadenhead a nude photo
and then was blackmailed into cuttering herself and mutilating her

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pet hamster. On camera fourteen Years Old, kyle spits a
notorious figure in the network known Online, as criminal was
arrested in twenty twenty four for producing self harm videos,
involving miners and distributing child sexual, abuse material including explicit

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material of a twelve. YEAR old a member of seven
sixty four offshoot an organization Called. Harm nation spites gained
infamy in twenty twenty three after sharing a disturbing video
on discord showing his mother's boyfriend's shooting them with, a
gun followed by footage of his mother's corpse after she

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died of a. Drug overdose just a, Jag off just a,
Jag off Good Old cameron finnegan twenty. Twenty four we
talked about Him, BRIEFLY. Sussex uk he was arrested and
his case drew attention All over europe when officers found
an eleven page document given detailed instructions on how to
carry out a mass casualty terrorist attack, using firearms knives

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and knives and what's called a luri or That's the
british term for a. Large, truck finnigan known within seven
sixty Four, as acid was found to have an altar
of satanic imagery and in satanic imagery and indecent images
of children in. His bedroom prosecutors noted he encouraged he
encouraged a vulnerable girl to kill herself live on camera

(57:35):
in the name of seven. Sixty four she was Apparently
from italy and no one knows what ultimately happened, to
her if she actually died. Or Not cameron finningan pled
guilty to, encouraging suicide possessing a, terrorism manual and possessing
indecent images of. A child he was sentenced to six
years in three. YEARS probation i mentioned, that earlier the six,

(57:57):
years anyway he also got three. Years, probation now these
are just a few notable examples since this, thing broke
how depraved these. ANIMALS are i could have talked, about
many many, more, cases unfortunately both domestically. And Internationally and
i'm really terrified that as time, goes on more and
more of these cases of extreme abuse against children and

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teens will be clawed from the darkness and brought kicking
and screaming in. The, light meaning can you really put
a stop? To, this, parents, guardians. FRIENDS educators i urge
you to watch for. Warning signs counter terrorism police advise
noting and reporting any child or teens, sudden secrecy unexplained

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injuries like cuts, and burns or obsessive interest in. Extreme
CONTENT the fbi stresses that suicidal ideation should trigger concern
as many seven six four victims are manipulated during mental.
Health crisis watch for sudden changes, in appearance especially neglect,
of appearance changes in eating or, sleeping habits dropping out,

(59:05):
of activities and becoming more isolated. And withdrawn watch for
any new online friends quote unquote friends your kids seem
to be infatuated with or. Scared of if your kid
receives anonymous gifts like stuff delivered to, your home money
gaming currency, like roebucks roeblock, bucks right or other, virtual

(59:27):
items big. Red flag look for scars on, the body
often in patterns, or carvings such as words or symbols on.
Their skin wearing long sleeves or pants in hot weather
could be another. Red flag family pets or other animals
being harmed or dying under suspicious circumstances you dread flag

(59:48):
as is, family pets uncharacter and characteristically avoiding. Your child
these are all signs that your child or teen might
be under the influence of online predators like the monsters
in seven. To six so how can you make sure
your child isn't? A victim isn't? A victim try to
be as observant as you can about, your kid what

(01:00:09):
your kids are, doing online who they're, talking to sites,
they visit watch for the warning signs and ask. Tough
questions make them aware of. What's happening you. Can't sugarcoat
they need to know that there are those out there
that want to literally, destroy them and that the internet
isn't a. Safe place they have to understand the dangers
of posting personal, information online photos, of themselves their, phone number,

(01:00:33):
home address, last name even the school. They attend don't
post that shit people could. Follow breadcrumbs let them know
you love them no. Matter what you love them and
you got. THEIR back i think being open, and honest
no matter how uncomfortable it is to talk to kids
about this kind of, nasty shit it's really the only
way to. COMBAT it i think make sure they're fully

(01:00:55):
aware of just how fucked up. People are now for
the most. Important part if you or someone you know
has been targeted by the seven sixty four network or
any form of, online, bullying harassment, or exploitation first it's
important to remember you're. Not alone help. IS available i

(01:01:16):
want to share critical resources to, support victims from reporting
cyber crimes to accessing mental health care and. Legal assistance
whether you need to document, a crime seek, crisis counseling
or remove exploitative content from. The web these organizations are here.
To help no one should have to navigate. This alone

(01:01:37):
so let's break down where, to turn how to, take
action and how to protect yourself. Or others, and again
please check the show notes because all of the Following
information i'm about to give will be there. As, well.
Okay clickable, all right here's what you need. TO know
ic three. Dot gov ic three dot gov that's your

(01:01:58):
direct line TO the fbi for. Cyber crime if you've
been targeted by, online, predators scammers. OR cybercriminals ic three
dot gov is where you. Fight back it's run BY
the Fbi Their Internet Crime. Complaint CENTER that's Ic Three
Internet Crime Crime complaint center that is the nation's central
hub for, reporting cybercrime from hacking and fraud to harassment.

(01:02:21):
And exploitation every. Report counts when you, submit INFORMATION the, fbi,
analyzes it tracks, criminal activity and works with law enforcement to.
Take action whether you're a victim or, a witness your
voice can help shut down predators and. PROTECT others ic
three at dot gov isn't just a, reporting tool it's

(01:02:41):
a weapon. Against cybercrime file complaint expose criminal networks and
Make the. Internet safer you can call or text nine
eight eight or go to nine eight eight lifeline. Dot
org for the suicide And Crisis lifeline helps available twenty
five or seven three. Sixty five whether you're facing mental,

(01:03:02):
health struggles, emotional distress alcohol or drug, use concerns, suicidal
thoughts or just need someone to. Talk, to remember you,
Are valuable you, Are love you have a lot. To offer.
You matter you deserve to feel heard and cared, about,
Anytime anywhere, so caller text nine eight eight or go
to nine eight eight lifeline, dot org report dot cybertip.

(01:03:27):
Dot org report dot cybertip. Dot org this Is A
national Center for Missing And exploited Children's. Cyber tipline this
is the place you need to go to report child.
Sexual exploitation or if you prefer to, talk someone you
call one Eight Hundred the lost or one eight hundred
eight four three five six seven eight one Eight Hundred

(01:03:47):
the lost and again that is available twenty four, hours
day seven days a week three. Sixty five if someone
is threatening, to share or has, already shared intimate photos
or videos of you From what when you are under
the age, of eighteen you have the right to, fight
back take it DOWN dot ncmec. Dot org take. It

(01:04:09):
DOWN dot ncmec dot org is your free confidential resource
to remove these images From the internet and stop. Their spread,
no shame, no blame. Just action this isn't just about.
Deleting photos it's about taking back control of, your life,
your privacy and. Your future it's a, good one especially

(01:04:29):
considering what we're talking. About today if you're a survivor of,
childhood exploitator. Excuse me if you're a survivor of childhood
sexual exploitation and your images are being, shared online you have.
The power you. Have rights you have power, and rights
the laws on. Your side you have the right to pursue.
Retr Restitution and i'm really fucking this, one UP? Aren't

(01:04:51):
i from every single person, who created shared or possessed.
Your images you have the right to restitution from every
single person who created share to possess, your IMAGES which i.
DIDN'T know i think. That's fantastic this isn't just, About
justice it's about holding these people accountable for the harm.
They've caused this process could. Feel overwhelming that's Why The

(01:05:13):
national Center for Missing And exploited children provides free confidential
attorney referrals to help you navigate the legal system with support.
And dignity so for, those lawyers you call eight seven
seven four four six two six three two extension six
one one seven eight seven seven four four six two

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sixty three two extension six one, one seven or you
could email get HELP at ncmec. Dot org get HELP
at ncmec. Dot org and again all this information is
available in the. Show notes, all right seven? Sixty FOUR.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Can i on? This TOPIC? Can I can i go
back a little bit? On, something yeah and talk ABOUT
something i have a. Problem with, UH well, i mean first, of,
all yes So USUALLY i'm i have a problem with
everything you're. Talking, about obviously what what is the main
culprit in this story? To YOU maybe i shouldn't make it,

(01:06:18):
so PERSONAL but i am, asking you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Hmm that what turns a person Into a? Bradley cadenhead,
AND well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
I wouldn't even say he's a person at the time he's.
Doing this what age? Is he He is columbine? Age, material,
yeah right he's school. Shooter age my parents.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Were, divorced yeah, you, know well first.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Of all everyone definitely, to tragedies everyone. Afferent person, you
know it's not even his. Family was it's not just.
About that it's not about like you were able to
make it out and. Others don't others are. BUILT Differently,
j dude it's like it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
The.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Devil, DUDE No, I no i don't think it's a dub.
AT all. I think i DON'T think i.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Just pure evil in our world that people are susceptible.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
To see THAT'S what i have a. PROBLEM with i
really can't follow you on some of these. EMOTIONS today
i find it very difficult to. Do IT so i
feel more pity and SAD than i feel angry at all.
About this we're also not, a parent, FOR one i
don't have to be a parent to, A.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Degree i think to kind of get the VISCERAL reaction. I, had.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
YEAH why i do think it's a little REDUCTIVE because
i do think that everything you were talking about with
the signs that parents should look. Out for and you're not,
a monologue but in your story you were talking about
sign you should look out for in case your kids
being exploited in some way are all the same exact
signs you should look for in a kid that would
potentially do this to. Another, kid SOMEDAY and i find,

(01:07:40):
that SAD and i find that to be just as
applicable to the person barely, a person a kid that
could see himself or herself mainly himself to exploit other
children online. LIKE this i feel like if people looked
out for all these signs, too badly he wouldn't have,

(01:08:02):
done this and once seven six four that it wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Exist if someone caught.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
These signs, the signs the same signs that you you
were asking parents to look out for in their children
if they, are victimized are the SAME signs i would
see in a kid that would grow even a little
older to. FIND victims i don't KNOW if I follow i,
THINK that, I know i think. IT'S percent i think

(01:08:28):
a person that like him was ignored and trauma traumatized,
in school bullying and, all this all those all the
same exact signs you would see in. A kid that
is that that your k could go through if someone
was picking on him online or in physical like, both
ways they both they both share very. SIMILAR feelings a

(01:08:50):
bullied kid online feels, very similar if not, the same
as a. Bullied kid warn YOU and i, grew up,
you KNOW like i felt bad, FOR sure i. CAN
relate i know know the internet world, like THIS but
i can relate to those feelings you. Didn't turn i'm a, Different,
Person jay everyone's a, Different person That's what. I'm saying everyone.
Is different like people can come back from more and
be perfectly CAPABLE non, ptsc people and some people come BACK.

(01:09:13):
For ptst everyone, understands, That right, so yeah. Everyone's different
i'm saying is that it's a, systemic issue Is what
i'm trying to. GET at i feel mad for the
systemic problems that let people, like him kids, like him
and that end the victims that people don't pay attention.
To either, you know kids with, their phones are too young,
of age and all those problems right fall through. The

(01:09:34):
CRACKS and i think it's a systemic issue we're. Talking
about the systems, fail them not just.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
To parents you feel bad for people who fall for.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
The crast not just, the parents, of course but the,
parents too not just the family and the town they
live in and the neighborhood that. Live in you're they
all fail. Them too, i'm saying the systemic issues in
place that are supposed to protect these people are not
at all completely looking at them. At all not even as,
an issue only when it's, too late only when we
have to. ARREST him i.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Think that's where my. Sympathy stops is, this kid, you
know he look at, a picture break your heart what,
he was what he. Turned into so That's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
What, I'm saying it breaks. Your heart, that's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
It's not but that's where my that's where my, sympathy
ends because a lot of people fall through.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
The cracks i'm not saying you let it go a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Million times worse upbringing and don't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Do, Anything no i'm not even remotely saying we shouldn't
let him go or SHOULD keep i definitely keep, him.
Away obviously i'm not even saying he's too far. Gone
either i'm not saying. That either by, The way i'm
not saying he's way. Too young he can totally. Get
rehabilized there's. NO problem i don't, Believe, it yeah OF course.
I don't I'm just That's what, i'm saying is that
you immediately demonize the, other side as if there. Are

(01:10:39):
sides he comes from a similar background of a victim and.
An abuser he could have gone, either way and that's
what makes me sad. ABOUT it i just don't. See
it I'M saying i, do IT and i feel like
we should bring it up. On that, Oh no i'm
Not saying i'm bringing it up as.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
A side go completely. Opposite dreams my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Part about this is THAT whenever i talk, about THIS
and i try to talk about it in terms of not,
with CHILDREN because i have to preemptively defend MYSELF because
i don't. HAVE children i don't have to have children
to understand that hurting a child. Is wrong, right now
it goes, BEYOND that. I know i know it goes
beyond that as a genetic emotional COMPONENT that i, don't

(01:11:17):
have NOR do i want. To, Have honestly THAT'S why
i always try to steer this into problems systematically that
we can relate to that has nothing to do, with
children but also. Affect them at the, SAME time i
think the issues, are BIGGER and i don't think it's
the individuals that we're blaming their their that are only.
At fault, You know That's what. I'M saying. I don't

(01:11:40):
this kid does not exist in The, vacuum jay he
exists in. Our, world no, he doesn't and our world
created this kid. As well he's a kid j he
doesn't know anything that failed to see the frontal lobe
of a child? Like mature is that twenty two or?
Twenty like, it's insane like it's not. AN adult.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
I know I guess i. Fail this the systemic issues
that would create, A beat i.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Couldn't say i'm not on The next the ONLY thing i.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Might be able to blame is unfettered. Internet access but,
THERE too i looked at what, was it gore? Dot
com what was the big one in, the nineties, man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Like, OH yeah i know what, You mean Gore dot
com OR something i, don't remember might, BE right i remember.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
It was really possibly something in the nineties early.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Two, thousands YEAH and i mean they were shock it
takes five years to upload. A picture, and yeah the
only been Gore.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
DOT com i. Did that we used to watch that
and try to freak each other out and gross each.
OTHER out i do remember something, perfectly fine you Know what, I'm,
saying like, different times. Different things that's that's so we.
Are fine other people. Were nache other people grew up to, shoot,
something yeah or go, to war take their angle out in.
Some victim we will never know. About you that that
happened to people in. The nineties we just weren't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Them percent it's not like no matter, of uh whether
or not you believe me, ON that i think that's
a very much. A tooism we're a, big population it's,
a world billions. Of people it's too much. To comprehend
you can't see no. For, sure yeah it's just like.
They're ABERRATIONS and i can't tell you specifically what systems
in Place in texas AND the us in the WORLD
that i could, specifically target but there are.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
To create there are supposed.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
To be organizations and rules and laws and systems in
place to, help, adults, children, victims everything everything supposed to
be that they all. Failed them they're supposed to get
to them before he gets to. That point they all,
fail them to recognize it and stop IT before i
got to. This point That's what i'm. TALKING about i,
don't know And it's i'm saying it's IT'S said i

(01:13:37):
pity this, kid negatively, of course. NOT positively i pity,
the kid but is, an overreactionary little fucking adrenaline. JUNKIE
kid i hate him for what he, did obviously and
all these. OTHER people i hate him don't want to
meet him on, the street that kind, of, Thing RIGHT

(01:13:59):
but i don't exactly one hundred percent entirely, blame HIM
and i. PITY him i don't have anger. FOR him
i can because of. THE age i can see. Your, point,
yes well how do you think everyone that becomes an adult?
Starts off how.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
About this kid that, they ARREST the us citizen Living,
in Greece that vergiani's twenty one? Year old he was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Twenty, ONE yeah i know that's. An adult that's an adult.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
For us that's a few years adult by. That time,
you know how do you explain?

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
That, ONE no. I don't i'm just saying that that's
the guy who got away with it Faster. Than bradley and,
you know opiration. There's there you, start picking and you
start picking and choosing what we demonize and what we
don't either we fix the issue as an overall always just.
Kill everyone you understand how it, Becomes nihilistic like we
can't just blame individuals when so many keep happening and

(01:14:45):
it will. Never, Stop jay so like we either grow
as a society in some fashion change, things up or
we're going to keep it expecting this and we keep
thinking of or protecting ourselves and that we're okay and everyone.
Else isn't that's not a great way to live. At
all i'm, just saying it's a two. Sided thing it's
a double. Edged sword it's a fucked. UP world i.
Get it It's just i'm just trying to bring, up

(01:15:06):
there it's more than what we're, just saying or that
what you, were SAYING and i believe, it's MORE and
i FEEL like i just want to bring it out
in case people are feeling similarly and maybe are having
hard ways to bring it up and put. Into words
i'm having a hard time to put them into words.
Right now but that's ESSENTIALLY what i wanted to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
BRING up i want an explanation for something so. Out,
there well there are there are definitely something wrong. With,
that yeah there is there's something. Out there there's something to.
Explain this i'm nowhere near you A profession i'm not
smart enough to know what. THAT is i don't believe
to be experts better than. Me will hopefully we'll figure.
This out i'm sure there are great sources out there
for you all to read and listen TO that i

(01:15:42):
can't tell you, that Exists and i'm hoping to do a.
Better job but like my point is THAT it's i
just want to bring it up because it was. BOTHERING
me i don't. WANT to i just don't want, to,
say like fuck this. KID forever i don't want to
say A hopey barry dies under, the prison, like yeah
it's so easy to say that and. MOVE on i
don't want to, move on, you KNOW and I feel
i feel. THE opposite, i, SAY.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
No I know. I'm not i'm not trying to. Convince
you i'm trying to bring it up for. Our audience
this is just for. THE audience i know better than
to try to convince you that's. Not, True, listen, No no.
I'm kidding that was that was that was that. Was flipping.
I'M sorry i meant as. A joke i was, just,
SAYING like i didn't expect to try to convince you
to change. YOUR mind i just wanted to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
My, side yeah, Absolutely absolutely and there probably are people
out there listening that that feel. That way, you know
this kid deserves, another chance that sort. Of thing he was.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
UNDER age i wasn't even, saying that but isn't, fully formed,
You know i'm not even saying. That either i'm just
saying that though there's a lot of more.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
To, IT yeah I just i think when you cross a,
certain line there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Coming back THERE'S also i have, a, huge huge humongous
problem with our, prison system humongous problem. With it, oh
yeah he's not going to go to prison and. Get
reformed but that's what that's probably wind up. Getting, killed
yeah probably.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Happen, Probably yeah and that's that's almost like, street justice
almost like saying that's the street take care.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Of it THAT'S why I said i hope.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
He could hope he winds Up, LIKE dahmer I, get
oh is that what Happened on THAT'S what, I said
i hope he. Winds up is that what happened to
he got kid shank? Or, something yeah he got beat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
TO death i.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Don't, Remember yeah i'm sure you told ME about i.
Don't remember, BUT again i.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Have this visceral reaction to THIS because i see my
kids in every one of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
These, vings yes, YOU know i STAND j i don't.
Want to. I'M trying i will never try to travel
lize your feelings. On, this absolutely it does seem like
a lack of. IMPULSE count i feel like that's just
an impulse. YOU'RE feeling i think there's more to it.
AN impulse i feel like we should never react on
an impulse on anything in, our lives much less a
heavy subject matter, like this and having an impulse effect,

(01:17:35):
a reactionary knee jerk reaction to kill this. Fucking kid
it's not good to live. On that that's. It anyway
but that's. That's it that's all, you got THAT'S all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I got, i mean, you Know obviously i'm keeping my
finger on the pulse on this one to see it's
been it's been pretty quiet as of, you know late,
last month mid. Last month, but uh, you know we'll
See If kayden head gets, an appeal what.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Happens, there right this is an ongoing kind of a. New,
story yeah people are arrested as soon as this year,
last year.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
So, correct yeah, so well, you know if there's any,
major developments we'll let. People know, but AGAIN just i.
Don't know the ONLY message i could just talk to.
Your kids, you know kids are, so afraid like my
kids are so afraid to like tell me certain things
because They think i'm just gonna fly off the fucking
HANDLE and i. Never would, but kids they create these

(01:18:26):
monsters in, their head. You KNOW and i, would say
any normal parent out there if their kid got into
a situation like this and they wound up snapping a
picture of a nude picture of themselves and one of
these assholes really did, leak it a normal parent isn't
going to fucking beat the fuck out of their kids
and kill them and all these things like kids think they're.

(01:18:46):
Gonna do, some WOULD though i think it's a very
small percentage that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
WOULD hap, i know but they'll, be mad but those
are some would. Be repercussions those are some would could
also put create a person that goes, out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Right there'll there'll. Be repercussion you might be grounded or,
you know something. Like that but my point is the
kids create these monsters of their parents in. Their head
they cannot FIND out i will. Do anything so they don't.
FIND out i would say in ninety percent of the
cases if they did, find out they're, gonna, shield protect
help their kids instead of what the kid thinks they're.
Gonna do, You know That's what. I'm saying be open

(01:19:19):
and honest with, your kids, be there have, Their back
no matter what the fuck. It, is yeah have, their
back make sure they know you have their bath because
then because then blackmail. Don't Matter, so okay my kid
took a picture of, his dick. Stupid thing let's let's.
Correct it let's move on and grow. From this. You,
Know yeah i'm not gonna, kill, THEM right i would never.
DO it i would always have, his Back.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Right, and yeah and the ANY thing i tell you
just that that also that kind of behavior that WE
are i definitely support you what you're saying. About parents
do this for, your kids stop them also from being.
Kidnappers themselves like that's ALSO what, I want like that
doing that also helps them from. Doing crimes and that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Goes back to being there for your kids.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Exactly exactly doing that doesn't as age both the victim and. The,
victimizer yes, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Yes yep try to create good little says.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
From being prayers and pray at the same time is a.
Universal thing it's parenting is. A, job yeah it is.
A job i wish more people saw, it positively like
the way you're talking. Right now obviously it's, not TRUE
but i wish it was universal and it is overall,
universal understood but not really. Not everybody everybody gets and
everybody grew up the way. We did very.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Small percentage that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
The, opposite well that's the thing that's very just can
make it a smaller, every year smaller percentage as we
go along. As possible.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
That's RIGHT so i. Don't know THAT'S only i guess
that's the only PARTING words i. Could, say no. That's
good let them know you, love them, be there, protect
them have, their back help them work, through problems don't
don't run, them down don't make. Them SCARY fuck i.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Don't, know, yeah no we.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Got it that's why, parent anyway, all right and my,
wife right? We right could we please? Go, Home oscar
i'm done with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
This, one yeah le's got out. OF here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
I want to come over on. The fourth i'll bring all. My, kids, like,
no nope. Not happening too much. Going on.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Doesn't he need like what are the different stages of a.
Driver's license there's a. Basic one what's the one on top?
Of that you Know what i'm? Talking about? Commercial license
is that what's called?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Commercial, license oh like like COMMERCIAL or cdl, or, Something.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Right so doesn't he need that to transport them? Any,
children shit it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Of, kids man it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
OF kids i will, say though, DESPITE everything i do
think it's kind. OF cool i have. BIG families i
don't know when that ever. Does that it's kind of
cool if you could, afford it if, you, could yeah
if you could pull it. Off, them huh you don't see.
Them anymore in the, old days you hear all these
stories about eight ten, family children, like deep. Pretty common.
THAT'S common i couldn't. Even, imagine yeah isn't? THAT crazy

(01:22:14):
i want to kill somebody at? TWO kids i can't. Imagine, sick,
well well all the work you constantly need for everything
to keep a house or a farmland in that case
makes sense you can need that. Many, children, yeah yeah what?
Was that what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
IS that faba means it's drinking a little hot to
me for.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Some reason, you know whiskey keeps, you warm, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
But it's only like a, hundred proof but it drinks
like it's maybe higher than one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Hundred proof it's all maybe there's a smudge and there's a.
Thousand proof, all right should we?

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Do, This yes i'm really gonna try to. Be one Take,
ja okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
YOU know i wasn't even thinking, About it but now
that you, SAY it i.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Don't know there's nothing really super crazy. With words in.
This one

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
We'll say about that buddy pal bucko

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