Episode 169: Vampiric Legends of New Orleans

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to my world, bitch, wow, good boy.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Here.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Welcome to the one hundred and sixty ninth episode of
the Supernatural Occurrent Studies podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
So Emphatically Paranormal.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
My name is Jason Knight, host of the show, and
with me, as always is Oscar Spector, producer Extraordinary and
podcast co hosts Embatical. Yes, great, I love that. That's
a good one.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
That one makes sense.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I almost said phallically and all I'll say that from
next time.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I mean weird. I mean, you know, Okay, we're boys.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
So what's been going on? Man? But yeah, it's been
been a while.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, it's been about a month.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yeah, closer a month. That's right, almost exactly a month.
A lot has been going on. I'm just back less
than a week ago. We got back from our our
two week odyssey in Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
That's right. One of this is the big one of
the year, or they're all roughly this month.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
The winter one is a little bit shorter. It's a
little bit shorter. Yeah, this we were we were gone
the fifth through the eighteenth, so a good long one.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Did you do any Independence Day's celebration because it was
that weekend, right, It was a weekend there, right, so
while you were there or.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
No, no, we so we head fourth of July here, right,
I remember that, And then we left early the morning
on the fifth, so we didn't we didn't party too hard.
We had some fireworks blew off some fireworks, had a
couple of drinks, nothing big, so it was pretty low key.
But something funny did happen. We were shooting off some
fireworks in the front of the house. I didn't want

(02:10):
him in the back of the house this year because
so much shit fell into the pool. I was clean.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I remember you were really mad last year. It was
funny and your sne was setting anything on fire. Immember
that it's right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
He melted my fucking table out there, little pyro. But yeah.
So we were shooting off some fireworks out front, and
one of them was this like kind of really cool fountain,
kind of a highly charged fountain. It would shoot things
way up in the sky and it would kind of
scream and shoot all these sparks. Well, Nico lit it,
and he lit it the wrong way, right, so he

(02:40):
lit it upside down, not knowing, and which would have
been fine. It's a mistake, but it tipped on its side, okay,
and started firing all this shit off down the street,
just right through my neighbor, you know, between the neighbor's
homes down the street. Yeah, and a cop car was
sitting there, oh shit, with a cop in it. These

(03:03):
fucking fireballs are shooting under the cops car, hitting the
cops windshield and I'm like, well, that's it. Vacation over.
I'm going to fucking jail, right. So it turns it
ends right? I U oh no. I went out in
the street and I kicked it a different way and
he finished. At least it wasn't, you know, firebombing the car,
the cop car, And I'm like, well, Katie, you know,

(03:27):
well it would have been a great trip. Cop gets out,
really attractive blonde cop and I'm like, uh. She goes
what's going on? And I just I am so sorry.
She's like, why did you do that? I said, no,
I didn't do that on purpose. The thing tipped over,

(03:49):
and she's like, oh it tipped over. I said, I
swear to god it was it was lit the wrong
way it fell. That was not intentional.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
When she went in her batman boys and said swear
to me and.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Then she beat her but time right, uh, and she
wound up being super cool. She's like, oh it tipped out.
She's like, okay, I get it, you know, don't do
it again. You know, if we get calls from a neighbor,
I'm gonna come back. I think she liked me, is
what it was. Yeah, no, not just kidding, but she
she actually wound up being very cool.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Hey, maybe she's into short kings.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Short old guys.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Uh So I didn't get put in jail, but man,
I was, I was richly I did it now. My
wife was sitting there.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Man, oh right, that for me the.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Next time, next fourth of July, because I think she's
gonna come back around next fourth of July show remember me.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, you should definitely accidentally through something else again.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I was. I haven't been that scared in a long time.
I thought for sure I was going to like she
was gonna pull me in, right because everything you know
so sensitive with police, you know, so you know that
was scary.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Is that the servants also technically yes, could have been
could have been? I get it.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
So that happened. So we did fourth of July, and
I thought I was gonna wind up in jail for life.
But no, you know, it was great. We were out there.
We did a lot of cool shit in Florida. Had
a really awful experience in Florida as well. If I
could tell you this one real quick. Okay. We started
the trip off in New Smaranna Beach, which is this great,
kind of quiet, quaint beachside town near Daytona. It's on

(05:18):
the Atlantic, it's on the ocean side. Actually, I found
out that Bob Ross Happy Little Trees mob Ross, he
had a home and studio in New Smarna Beach. I
just found this out. And New Smaranna Beach is also
the shark bike bike capital of the world, and people
were getting bit while we were out there. We were
seeing the news stories. It's crazy. But the first day,

(05:38):
my wife and I we had some drinks and my
mom bought us quite a few drinks when we pulled
into town and we're like, let's go in to the ocean. Awesome,
So we run in the ocean. We're playing in the ocean.
A couple hours later, I start itching and I'm like,
the fuck is like Mosquidoes. I'm like looking around, No,
no mosquitos. What happened? I wound up getting hit by

(05:59):
sea lice, which, from what I understand is jellyfish larvae. Yeah,
little microscopic things. And uh, I wound up not sleeping
for three days on that trip. That beginning of that trip,
all three days were in New Smyrna. They're like, they're
like mosquito bites times a thousand. Uh, I don't remember
I had chicken pox. I don't remember it. But it's

(06:20):
supposed to be way worse than chicken pox. Yeah it was, yeah,
and so h and there it's like heat triggered. So
if you lay in under blankets at night, your your
bites flare up and they leak and they're disgusting and
all you could do is itch until you bleed. Uh.
So that was that was terrible. Now, luckily my wife

(06:42):
didn't get hit, my kids didn't get hit. They were
in the ocean. I only got hit. So that was
the start to the vacation, but the ending. Everything else
was fantastic. Beginning.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
But yeah, I never heard of that sea life.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Fucking sea lice. And there's things called no sums that
hang out in the sand, but we didn't play in
the sand. We were just in the so it seems
that's what it was. Disgusting, just disgusting.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
No, no, thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
So now my legs look like I literally have like
the fucking bubonic plague.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Are they going to go away? Are they gonna scart?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
It's scarred, that's there for life. Yeah, oh no, it's terrible. Dude,
it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Get tattoos on them.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
See, you know I've thought about it. Yeah, I've thought
about it, and I even thought about skin graphs. Yeah,
because I've had these things before, but not to this extent,
never had it like this before. Okay, but I've thought
about skin graphs and I thought about tattoos. But I
would have to literally tattoo both my legs completely. Now
that's how bad it is. Really Yeah, I'll show you before.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, can we leave?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
It's gross. I'm embarrassed by it happens. So that happened.
That was that was interesting. Yeah, everything else is great, though,
everything else is great.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I've read this. I'll topic real quick, and I don't
have an actual solution. I remember the whole article, so
I apologize in advance. But I read this scientific article
about itchiness and like, like, what's this purpose medically? Like,
like what's why would the body require you to itch
because niche it's it's further damaging your body, like a

(08:04):
niche is like it's like a pain receptor. It's small,
it doesn't feel painful, but it's almost painful. And there
was just scientists were trying to figure it out, testing
it our mice, of course, making them itchy and like.
And they figured out obviously the obviously answer you've heard
this from your mom or something, or like, if you
leave it alone, it does go away impossible, like ninety

(08:25):
percent to one hundred percent of the time. And they
realized that with a lot of different tests they did
on these mice regarding levels of itchiness and what irritates
their skin, and and it would work. But like, but
they couldn't solve either. They couldn't solve or all remember
what they solved, but they couldn't solve the issue as
to why the body requires you to itch when all

(08:45):
it does is make it worse and further scar and
damage your body that thing that you're supposed to prevent
like a health right. So it's it's a contradictory like sensation,
like it doesn't make any biological sense for animals to itch,
not just us animals because that you know, Cat's footitch everything,

(09:05):
which and they don't know why. Either they don't know
why or they figured out the answer, and that just forgatit.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
It was it's certainly a reaction.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's that.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, part of the it's the reaction is the poison
that it's in your body at that moment. But it's
it's it is. It is contradicted. It's funny because like
you try to fight it because I don't want these
gars right as I've had them before. But when you itch,
eventually it's like you fork. You feel so fucking good. Yeah,
so you continue to do it. Now you're bleeding everywhere. Yeah,
I'm sorry, listeners, I hope you're not eating.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
No, this is not tyros, but I get it. I
get it. Yeah, it's weird. Itching is weird.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Weird. Itching is weird. The takeaway is itching is better.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I mean that's what I was thinking, because I'll never
go in the ocean, so I'll never have that problem.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, the last episode we talked about it was this
the last episode I think we talked about your escapades
on the maybe the one before, but yeah Mexico, Yeah, yeah,
you had me rolling, man.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I magine if I got sea like that day as well,
like fuck all of you, what would have killed everyone.
So this is a small thing that on my end,
I don't have anything going on. But yesterday I was out,
you know, I'm a wood driver, and I was out
and around seven thirty to eight, where like there's still
sunlight even though it's going down. I had this grasshopper

(10:19):
on my car. Oh wow, like a little grasshopper.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I didn't take a great picture, but it was on
my windshields. It was hard to take a good picture.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Kind of sizeable too, yeah, a big one.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, and he was at first I noticed on many
cricket men. Yeah, right, first noticed it on top of
my car. And I didn't like. I didn't like schwad away.
It didn't leave like whatever I was driving picking up
dropping orders. A few like an hour later, he crawls
on my windshield. I'm like, okay, you're still here.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
So he was calling there and that was going sometimes
going on the highway seventy miles eady whatever, forty five
on a lot of streets in the suburbs, and I'm like, okay,
this I think this thing is enjoying the ride. Like
it's enjoying the and it was just it was steady
himself on the windshield and just like in bobbing with
the car, just enjoying itself. And it stayed with me

(11:09):
for four hours day.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
So that's that's pretty interesting because in certain belief systems
and cultures, grasshoppers symbolize good luck, abundance in transformation. Okay,
it's a sign, dude, it's a positive sign. It's a
good thing.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I want to know because I'm cocks son. But yeah, okay,
that'd be great. So it stayed with me for hours.
It wasn't until like them midnight or one am when
I finally stopped seeing it, like I'd messed, have fallen
off somewhere. Play the lottery, mate, I never played. I
don't even know how to play a lottery. I've never
played the.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Walk walk into the gas station. Tell me how to play.
They'll they'll instruct you how to do it, because I
don't play often either. But when the numbers get almost
to a billion, I'll go buy a few tickets. And
I had to do the same thing, like, dude, what
do I do? How much is it? And they'll tell you.
But that's a sign man, that's a sign.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Maybe I'll take it sily. But yes, that's what happened.
It was very weird and I never never had that
happen before that I've noticed, and it toltally just stayed
with me and didn't try to come into the car
because sometimes I have my window down and it's like
when it's like thirty miles an hour or last, I
can just enjoy the wind. Yeah, and no never just
totally chill, just very chill on my windshild the whole time. Wow,
very weird.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Play that lottery son, Yeah all right, well and if
you win, split it. Yeah, I don't even want to half.
Just give me, like, give me a nibble it to
me a nibblet.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
What was that thing from Gopa to I want to
wet my beak my beak a little, right, that's you, right,
ilmost got you a whiskey.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, yeah, that was a hot one.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
But that's basically that's basically.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
No, that's cool. That's pretty interesting. God, oh my god. Hello,
people are dying, dude, every day. Yeah, Ozzie, oh yes,
Azzi are you serious?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well he was standing up there with me.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
He's not obviously, and he had Parkinson's and things, but
like he just did that that concert, that big farewell concert.
I mean, you know, people are saying that was his
he knew it was coming, that was his living eulogy.
Uh you know seeing him. I mean like I'm literally
like getting funk about it, like what celebrities die, and
like Ozzie Man, I don't know a world where Ozzie

(13:12):
doesn't exist, Like that's true.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
He had, I mean up until recently held he was
a live for a long time.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Everywhere, everywhere, part of pop culture, part of just every
different parts of my life, like fucking Ozzie Man. I
seen him in concert a few times, but I'm really
kind of messed up about the Ozzy Osbourne thing.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Man John. People keep thinking I look like him, Really,
I got them multiple times. I mentioned that, I think
on whenever we did a show earlier this year, for
when I went out on my birthday, people kept confusing me.
Not one person anyway, what kept saying, like you look like.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Like that's a compliment, it's just a hair. It must
be interesting. Yeah, but yeah, that was a shocker.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yes, that is not the biggest chock. I guess I come,
you know, I figure it's coming, It's upcoming. There's others
that be like, man, I can't believe she's still or
he's still, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
But like right now Keith Richards is like he's hiding
in a closet wrapped in bubble wrap or something. Man,
because he's a still I don't know exactly he's got
to be in his eighties, but like just the massive
amounts of drugs and alcohol that pumped through his system
over the years and he's still kicking.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
He's the one with a thousand kids, right, is that him?

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's one of these rock stars that has like so
many kids with so many different women.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I couldn't tell you if it's Keith or not.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
But like never heard of a condom, never never heard
of one, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
And then well Ossie of course, and now there's like weird,
weird things coming out, Like there's there's this singer called
young Blood. I couldn't tell you who he is, okay,
but all of a sudden, he's like huge and like
Ozzie and Sharon took him under their wing and love
this kid. He's a singer. And uh suppose there was

(14:58):
like a ritual backstage or something. At the Farewell concert
where Ozzie transferred his essence to this young blood. Oh okay,
and uh, you know everyone used to hate this kid
and all of a sudden everyone loves him. He's huge,
and like people are saying, it was like this soul
transfer or essence transfer from passing the torch, you know,
to this new kid that they took under their wing.

(15:20):
So just little like freaky things coming out now about
that stuff, which it's probably a bullshit, but it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, I get it. I got it.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Hulk Hogan bro oh so yeahan brother, what what.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
That's pretty good?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Pretty good?

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Terry Balao Balo, I thinks what you say it.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
He didn't legally change his name to Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
And I don't think so, No, no, don't. I was kidding.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Might celebrity are crazy?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
So yeah, exactly. Uh that was shocking too, like fucking
halt Man. No. I know a lot of people are like,
fuck you, Hulk sucks because he supported Trump, but man,
through the eighties and nineties, fuck off, Hulk was the
best man. I watched it all loved it. That was shocking.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I remember, uh that Rocky movie he.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Was in, Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
There's another Remember Suburban Commando. Yes, I remember that movie.
It was that Christopher Lloyd.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Am I wrong because I remember?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Is the main like the straight man in that movie?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I couldn't tell you. I just remember, well, yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
And it was I had some I mean, I remember
this from the trailer back then. This is a nineties movie.
Is Nightties? I think it is? It's yeah, maybe.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I'm surely midnighteties.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
And I remember the trailer because they played a lot.
I must have seen it a thousand times. He would
be like because he's like he's like not a dummy,
but like he's like out of place, out of time.
I don't know what it is. Anyway, He's in an
office and he's yelling at this lady at the reception
and she's like take a seat, and he's like, and

(16:51):
she actually grabb He pulls out this anchored bench on
the floor. He just crabs it and just turns to
her and she's like, that's really funny.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
But that's what you remember.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Ye can't say anything happened in that movie.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
That is some early nineties shit, right there is.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, barely a memory anyway.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, yeah, but that's I mean, that's we go to
Clearwater Beach a lot like to go there when we
go to Florida, and that's where he's from. And uh,
there's a there's a big store. He has a store there,
and there's a statue of him there and stuff, so
we always check that out. But yeah, uh and feel
Huxtable Malcolm Jamal Warner, Yes, fucking drowns.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
What Yeah, he wasn't that old o? Not as old?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean, no, no, no't.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Wasn't he community? Am I wrong? I didn't play a
guest role in the community. Don't know, because I know
one of the Huxtables actors was in plays what's your name?
People are gonna kill me whatever? One of the main
study members her husband was Yeah, yeah, I think, I think,

(18:00):
so think.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
And I also feel like he was a like a
good guy. I don't I don't remember ever hearing like
any negative press about him or anything.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
They just yeah me either.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't recall any yeah you know,
uh so that was that was shocking too, like b
bam And there were two other ones, forgive me. I
wasn't familiar with who they were. They just don't stick
in my mind. I can't think of their names off
the top of my head, but other people certainly knew
who they were. I think they were both musicians. And
they so like five famous people in the last two weeks.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, crazy, Yeah, they're gonna be dropping. Like fly Is said,
the all do we get right? All our heroes, all
our heroes.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Although I will say and I met that these three
that we talked about, they never really been on my
radar much. I know Hull Call again, sure from the
nighties in the movies I didn't watch. I didn't grow
up on his wrestling right, Oh see, I didn't grow
up on Auzzie very much. I also beyond my time. Really,
I didn't I know of Ouzzie, sure, I know.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
That's the thing. I feel like Ozzie's timeless, like even
my son knows.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh yeah, he's definitely a figure. Like I don't know that.
I don't have a history with him, you know. That's
on the thing. Yeah, and I seen the Huxtable what's
that show? Cosby show? Obviously you know Scandal and included,
But I did grew up watching we runs of that,
so that one I'm more familiar with. But that's really it.
I haven't really seen that actor and much lately. So

(19:19):
it's not like I kept up with them either, But
I get it. I get it though it sucks and
it keep happening, so.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
It will now it's of course roller Dice, Who's next?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Right?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
You know? Right?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
You think Vegas is Cal's not to have like a
betting pool going on?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I think they do, ye, I literally think.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah they do. As soon as I said it, I
was like it definitely.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Better. Fact, I think I distinctly remember reading something about
oh really wow, I couldn't tell you much about it.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Imagine you're celebrity and you read that or something and
you're on the list somewhere. Can you imagine would you
be more of enough to look up where you are
on the standings? Like where you know?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I wouldn't want to and now me as me me
being me, no, I wouldn't want to know no celebrities.
I could see him.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I would if I had like a criminal illness, and
I would plan my own death based on where they
are understanding like like tell me what you're going to
tell people either lose a lot of money or gain
a lot of money, right, and saying like I would
funk with Vegas pool. I would do that.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I like Pete Rose.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, it's great anyway.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
AnyWho, we got a good one tonight. We're going whimsy,
whimsy and fun and a spooky. Okay, we're going down
south to Louisiana.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, I love that.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Let's take a break. Listeners, welcome back to the show. Well,

(21:08):
the lights are turned down low, the ceremonial candle is lit,
and the drinks are flowing. Let's start this show. What
are we drinking tonight? By the way, it is a
ten year apple juice, right, single barrel. Henry McKenna battled

(21:30):
in bond, very good, really enjoying this. What do we say?
It comes in with boots, but then it takes off
its shoes and quietly walks through your pallet.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes, I like that.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Comes in hard and soft and lingers on the palate.
Very nice. Yes, it's got a good one. Okay, oscar.
Tonight we're headed down south. We're headed down to the
Crescent City place that's near and dear to my heart.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
That's what they call it. It is.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, if you look at you look like it.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Sure, I looked at a map of nether Orleans.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Crescent City.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Makes sense away because they're following the shoreline.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, yep, French Quarter. I think my wife and I
have been here. I mean it's over. It's got to
be over twenty times at this point.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
You know, it's one was the last time, do you remember?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I think it was two years ago? About two years ago.
We'd get a chance to go this year, fortunately, but
it's on our it's on our to do list. We'll
get there soon. So I like everything that has to
do with New Orleans. Very spooky city, great stories coming
out of New Orleans. So tonight we're going to be
talking about the vampiric legends of New Orleans, of which

(22:44):
New Orleans is so well known. So, you know, New
orleans rich history and it's well preserved architecture dating back
to the seventeen hundreds make it the perfect setting for
vampire stories, both on screen, in literature, and maybe in
real life too. Filmmakers and authors are drawn to its eerie,

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atmospheric charm, using it as a backdrop for iconic vampire
films like Interview with a Vampire Dracula two thousand and
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
That was set there. I don't want wasn't sure it.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Was as parts of it were yep. Disney's latest Haunted
Mansion movie also embraces the city's history, featuring legendary locations
like Preservation Hall and Lafitte's blacksmith Shop, which also happens
to be super haunted. Television has followed suit with series
like True Blood and AMC's Interview with the Vampire, bringing

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New Orleans Haunting a loure to life. And let's talk
about the new Interview with the Vampire series for a minute.
Have you seen it?

Speaker 2 (23:54):
No, it's I know, it's on my list.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
It's incredible, it's not my list. It's so good Leon
delion Cole. However, they say with that French creole lstat
de lion Cole as they say, the guy who plays.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Them, what's that you're nailing that?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
It just rolls off the tongue when they say it.
But the guy who plays lestat absolutely fantastic, way better
than Tom Cruise's portrayal, and uh Louis de pond de
la Louis uh in this show is fantastic as well.
From down the Street over and six and then yeah,
you know, only.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Dollars they have a car shop.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
But now, yeah, so good show. I think it's better
than better than the movie actually. But of course it
all started with Anne Rice and her interview Interview with
the Van and her book Interview with the Vampire, which
inspired both the film and TV series Immerses readers in
New Orleans dark seductive mystique, as do many of her
Vampire Chronicle books. The city's decaying and necropolis like atmosphere

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make it easy to believe that vampires could call it home.
And let me tell you, if you ever wander in
the French Quarter at night, you might just start believing
it in yourself. In fact, my wife and I may
have even spotted a real vampire on our very first
visit to New Orleans, oh so many years ago. After
a long day of indulging in New orleans legendary food

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and drinks, we were strolling down a nearby street, Canal Street,
deserted late at night, walking back to our car. All
of a sudden, this guy walks past us and he's
he's literally dressed up like Gary Oldman from The Banchover's Dragon.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, with the red.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
With Keanu Reeves kind of that. What's called maub is
that the mob suit with the top hat, the round glasses,
dark glasses, cane, the whole thing. I mean, he was
dressed up as this guy walks right past us, seemingly
he came out of nowhere. We were more wrapped up
in ourselves, talking about the day and stuff, looking, you know,

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looking around on the tours. We had drinks as well.
Then all of a sudden, this guy was there and
he walked past us. I'll tell you, man, when he
walked past us, he gave me the eeriest feeling like
this is not a good person. I just got a
vibe off of this guy. And we passed him. He

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didn't look at us, he didn't make any threatening motions
or anything, but you just got this feeling. We walked
I don't know how many steps, and I turned around.
The fucking guy wasn't there. He was gone. Could he
have ducked into a doorway or something that was linding
the street. Maybe, But it just added to the what

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did I really just see you? Was it really a vampire?
You know, when you're caught up in the moment, when
you're in that city, that late at night by yourself,
and something like that happens, you could believe, you know,
So you know, that was our little maybe crossing paths
with the being dead. I don't know, but it was creepy. Now.

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New Orleans is steeped in the dark allure of traditional
vampire lore, but lurking beneath the surface of its moonlit
streets is something far more insidious. Energy vampires. These are
not the creatures of fang and blood you've heard of. No,
these energy vampires feed on something far more intimate, your energy,

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your aura, your very essence. And they're said to haunt
the shadowy edges of the French Quarter, particularly on the
Esplanade side close to the infamous Frenchman Street, also known
as the locals Bourbon Street. Picture this a tourist swept
up in the intoxicating rhythm of New Orleans nightlife, laughing, dancing,

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sharing drinks with the stranger who seems vaguely familiar, but
whose face they can't quite put though in this city
that's hardly unusual. The night is alive, electric, until nothing avoid.
They wake up in their hotel room the next morning,
the sun slicing through the blinds or the classic colonial shutters,

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Their body heavy, their mind fogged. Hours are missing, carved
out of their memory. How did they get here? Did
they stumble back alone. Was there an uber, a bicycle,
taxi or something else, something that moves silently through the night, watching, waiting.
Their belongings are untouched, their body unmarked. Yet they feel hollow,

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as if something vital had been siphoned away. All they
can recall is the stranger's face, fleeting and indistinct, and
then blackness. Locals whisper these victims, their eyes hollow, their
spirits dimmed. They speak of the energy, vampires, beings that

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drift through the crowds, unseen, unfelt until it's too late now.
For most of our recent trips to New Orleans, Katie
and I, my wife and I, we like to stay
at a boutique hotel on Esplanade called the La Moth House,
just steps from Frenchman Street. It's charming, it's historic, it's

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supposedly haunted, has a great pool in courtyard, which pools
are kind of rare in the French Quarter, okay, and
it also has this air of kind of faded grandeur.
We'd love this. We'd recommend the hotel to anybody, the
La Moth House. Check it out if you're going to
New Orleans. We love it. If not for the unease
that creeps in after dark. This side of the quarter

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is quieter, yes, and that's kind of why we like it.
But the silence almost feels deliberate, as if the streets
themselves are holding their breath. Esplanade is lined with towering mansions,
their windows dark and unblinking, and ancient trees whose gnarled
branches twist overhead, casting long, skeletal shadows. It's beautiful in

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a way that makes your skin prickle. We love it there,
but I can't shake the feeling of being watched. Every
time we walk these streets at night. My eyes dart
to strangers we pass. Their faces are ordinary, but what
if they're not. What if there's something else, something hungry,
waiting for the right moment to strike. The stories of

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energy vampires just might be tales. But in New Orleans,
where the line between myth and reality blurs like fog
on the Mississippi River, I've learned to tread carefully. After all,
not all predators leave marks. Some simply leave you empty.

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Now what I think really kicked off the legends of vampires,
actual blood and fang vampires in New Orleans, Not Anne Rice.
This came way before any book or movie, our stories
about vampires.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
I imagine.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
So yeah, I think the legend of vampires came from
something called the casket girls. They're what really gave rise
to this frightening idea that vampires stalked the French quarter.
You see, in early New Orleans, it said that men
outnumbered women five to one. Not a good place to
pick up women, get married and start a family back then,

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not like today where there's sex on every corner. Right.
So on, approximately seventeen twenty seven, New Orleans founder Jean
Baptiste Lemoyne Bienville sent two nuts, two nuns to France
to secure young women as brides for New Orleans early settlers.

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Now it's unclear whether these so called brides to be
were truly innocent maidens or something else. France had a
habit of sending its undesirables. It's prostitutes, criminals, prisoners, scoundrels, pirates,
and all manners of nearer duells.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yes, these wanted to use that near dwells. These want
to say that, first of all, can you be classified
as a scoundrel? Is that like a crime?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I guess so?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
According to early France, you were if you were a scoundrel,
you're out of here near dwell. But they sent all
these undesirables across the ocean to the sweltering, mosquito infested
swamps of New Orleans. And the idea was simple. If
these outcasts, these troublemakers, could survive the harsh, unforgiving environment

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in New Orleans and somehow reform themselves, they might earn
a chance to return to France, their past sins pardoned
as if they'd served time. But survival in New Orleans
was no small feat. At that time, the city was
a crucible of heat, disease, and danger, a place where
the line between life and death blurred, like the steam

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rising off a piping hot bowl of gumbo.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
So basically France treated it's unwanted and ship them off
to the US the same way England shipped off there
unwanted to Australia.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
We were there.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Australia basically exactly was a prison camp.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
R Yeah, like a prison camp.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
That's what this was.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Escape from Alcatrazers, escape from New York.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I mean, was that what they did in there?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Really?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
I know?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I mean I won't say it holds up it's an
old movies from the seventies, but I think it's very
good anyway. It's they they cut off a section or
all of New York and he became a prison island.
So they sent all the prisoners in there and just
let the front of escape from New York, escape from here.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Got it? I gotta watch that one day, Kurt Russell, Right, Yes, yeah,
I like Christmas Snake Pliskin. Snake Pliskin.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's a great name. Snake Pliskin.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
That is a good name. I'm gonna name my next kid.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Your tool for them.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
You're right now. Those who were sent to New Orleans
often desperate, broken, or both, and the shadows of their
pasts clung to them like the damp, heavy air of
the swamp. Were these women truly bribed seeking a new life,
or were they something else, entirely cast offs, sent to
a land where the living and the dead seemed to

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walk hand in hand In the dim, flickering light of history.
The Casket Girls, the women's stories remained shrouded in mystery.
But one thing is certain. New Orleans always has been
a city of secrets, and the truth about these women
may be far more haunting than anyone dares to imagine.

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As the legend goes, the French women brought back to
New Orleans were only allowed to take with them items
that would fit inside what was called a casquette, this
kind of small chest, which some people said looked an
awful lot like a coffin. Picture it, if you will,
the scene at the port of New Orleans in those

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early days of settlement. The air is thick with the
scent of the Mississippi, the gulls cry overhead, and the
hum of a fledgling colony struggling to take root. A
large ship docks, its sails tattered from the long voyage
across the sea. To the surprise of the onlookers, a

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stream of women begin to disembark. At first glance, one
might assume this to be a joyous occasion, a shipment
of brides to be arriving to bring comfort and companionship
to the lonely settlers. But alas, the reality was far
more grim. These women, far from the picture of health

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and vitality, were a sight that struck dread into the
hearts of even the hardiest souls. After months at sea,
they emerged not in fine ball gowns or wedding dresses,
but in a state of utter dis gaunt, pale, hollow eyed,
Their frail frames bore the marks of a harrowing journey.

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Food was scarce, disease rampant, and the conditions aboard the
ship nothing short of deplorable. Their pallor was ghostly, their
movements sluggish, as if they had stepped not from a
ship but from the very clutches of the grave. To
add to the macob spectacle, the women were followed by

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their peculiar coffin like trunks their casquettes. These ominous containers,
rumored to hold the meager possessions of the travelers, only
deepened the unease of those who witnessed their arrival. Whispers
began to spread like wildfire among the settlers. Could these
women be more than they appeared? Were they perhaps vampires themselves,

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or worse, willing accomplices to darker forces smuggling their undead
masters into the new world within those closed, caste like chests.
The sight of some women coughing blood, a telltale sign
of the dreaded tuberculosis, only fueled the growing suspicion that
these were no ordinary passengers.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
What's tubiculous? Is like that big issue back then, I
assume oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, huge. Now. Once ashore, the lives of these women
did not improve. Cast into a harsh and unforgiving land,
they faced a daily struggle for survival in a colony
rife with disease, sweltering heat, and the constant threat of death,
and until their respective marriages, the casket grows, as they
became known, were to remain under the care and the

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protection of the Ursuline nuns. Unfortunately, though the women didn't
come off the boats and get married into some rich
fantasy life. No. Sadly, a lot of the Casket Girls
were forced into nasty, abusive relationships. They were disrespected and
mistreated by the very men they were sent there to marry,

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and the casket girls that didn't get married were oftentimes
forced into prostitution, not what these women were expecting at all.
And as if this wasn't bad enough, shortly after the
Casket Girls arrived in New Orleans, people of New Orleans
started dying and the Casket Girls' fates were all but sealed. Now,

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of course, the climate of New Orleans at the time,
which practically encouraged epidemics like cholera, malaria, smallpox, and yellow
fever was not to blame for the deaths. No disease
couldn't have been it. Instead, what was blamed were the
casket girls, or whatever was inside the strange chests the

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casket girls dragged off that boat. Vampires, Vampires ron the
loose and killing people of New Orleans. Ultimately, the remaining
unwed casket girls were sent back to France. They shipped
them back, and really, from that point the legends of
vampires stopped locking the gas lit streets of the French Quarter,

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stuck and never really went away. Whatever they were truly,
whether they were truly victims of circumstance or something more sinister,
the casket Girl's presence left the lasting mark on the
folklore of New Orleans. To this day. The tale of
the casket Girls lingers in the shadows of the city's history,

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a chilling reminder of a time when the line between
the living and the dead seemed periously thin.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
You know, they said, I'm surprised they spent the money
send them back was expensive.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
I would have I would assume so.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
So the joke. I mean, if if I was a
standup comedian, I would say there must be the ugly
ones that they you know, that's a joke there, IM
not going but I'm but I wonder if it's to
say face in some way for what they what they
asked for and for France from France, even though they
sent their quote unquote worst right. I wonder how that felt, Like,

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I want to know, I want to know the transactional
business disputes that must have happened with that. I'm so,
I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
It's an interesting thing.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Is I find no record on that. But my biggest
my first surprise was that they were seen as vampires
from the get go. Sounds like get go when America
has already had a history of famously of burning witches
and blaming it on women being witches, not necessarily vampires.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Yeah, that is an interesting point because if you think
about it, the Salem witch trials were what sixteen ninety two,
I believe it was sixteen ninety two, and here we're talking,
you know, early seventeen hundred, So there's people alive at
this point who would know of the Salem witch trials.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
And people knew about this was a big thing, a
country wide if not I don't know nation worldwide, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Definitely country wide, I would say, for sure, for sure. Yeah,
so yeah, what what was the decide factor of vampire
and not witch?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Right? And obviously like maybe there's a couple of things,
like in the roots of the superstitious history of New
Orleans specifically that led them to vampires to begin with,
But also we feel like we're starting, we're talking about
the beginnings of a lot of it really not necessarily
an established route of already lore. But it makes me think,

(41:23):
like I wonder if there is a correlation of race
here where, Like I mean, even know, there's no difference
to me, one European contry to another, to them, like
a Pilgrim descendant could be a witch in Salem, but
in New Orleans, you know, off the boat from France,
not England, is enough of a difference for them to say, like,

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these are vampires and not witches.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I don't know if there's I mean, there's no way
to prove that.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
I don't think, no, no, But it's an interesting thought.
I've never heard that really brought up before.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, that's interesting, I wonder because you know, obviously you're
hands yeah, typically white, but not all of them are white. White,
and there are different levels of it, and there's different
skin tones, the olive skin, you know, Italians and stuff
like that. I wonder if French people look different enough,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I mean, I mean, talk about the worst welcome loan
and they just come in immediately feel like shit, right,
God knows what?

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Wow, do we have a history of that in this country.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
We love doing that, not just we hear it, but
we especially, Yes, we love to do that. I also
love how we just people wash their hands every once
in a while. People wouldn't have color or something like due,
wash your fucking food. That's all you gotta do so far,
take a wash your hands, right right?

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Be all right?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
You know, these girls did not have it easy, did
not expect what they encountered. And the ones I guess
who just couldn't get married off maybe weren't good enough
for prostitutions. I don't know. Apparently they shipped him back. Yeah,
a rough life these girls have. But that's where I
believe the vampire lore really started was with these casket girls.

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And it should really be no surprise that today now
one of the most famous or infamous vampire history rich
locations in the French Quarter is the old Ersuline Convent,
home to the very nuns tasked with watching over the
Casket Girls back in the seventeen hundreds. Located at eleven
twelve Charter Street in the French Quarter, which is actually

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the oldest building in the entire Mississippi Valley, the Erstline
Convent was constructed between seventeen forty eight and seventeen fifty
two for Ursuline nuns, whose mission it was to nurse
the poor and teach and care for young girls. Young
girls like the Casket grows. Throughout its history, the Ursuline
Convent had also been a school, an archbishop's residence, the

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archdiocese central office, and a meeting place for the Louis
Louisiana Legislature. Later it served as a residence for priests
serving mainly New Orleans Italian community, and then it housed
the archdioce in archives. Now today, together with Saint Louis
Cathedral and Saint Mary's Church, it forms the Catholic Cultural

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Heritage Center of the Archdiocese of New Orleans. So lots
of history in this building dating back centuries.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
It would make an interesting movie you know, following the
Casket Girls as they arrived, it being really like heart
wrenching as fuck, but like interesting movie.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
That's a I mean, that could be a drama, that
could be a horror movie show. And you know what,
I've never seen anything about it.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Also, it's a great name for like a punk all
girl group. Oh yeah, right, I wonder if there is
there might be that might look We're gonna.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Look while you look that up. I'm gonna continue to
talk about the Erthline Convent because I've been here a
bunch of times. Now, the Earthline Convent. It's a plain
but beautiful building, maybe a little spooky. And definitely check
the show notes because I have a few pictures there
so you could see what the Arthtline Convent looks like.
Oh there is, isn't there better?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
So there is a musical band called the Casket Girls.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I don't know. I'm not gonna listen to it right now.
But there is a movie.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Oh are you serious? Too good to not have one?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
It's called The Casket Girls. The castcare girls in it
is it says is a Wikipedia thing. I don't know when.
It's an upcoming American horror film. Directed by Justin Dick
and written by Thomas No No, so's it's it says upcoming.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Oh interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
It's about a French young women were sent in uralans
and the simithing on is to become brides. Upon their arrival,
the homicide right rose and they were accused of being
vampires are demons, leading to their imprisonment in a convinced attic.
Is that part true?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
I'm getting there.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Oh, you're getting there. Okay, my bad.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
It's a little twist on the actual history.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But yeah, I'm trying to see. It's in pre production.
It's its status is pre production. We don't know if
it's actually coming out, but it has my culture in it.
He's from Evil. He plays the priest, the main priest.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Oh oh that guy father David. Yeah no, yeah, I
love it.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
And Gabrielle Union Okay, she's from hear this her. She's
in the Lock and she Wasn't and one of the
bad Boys movies. She was also in Bring It, Bring
It On.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
I don't recognize her.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
She was big in two thousands, okay, And I love
gabriel Gabrielle Union, she's great. I love that.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
That could be a wonderful movie.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Dude, Yeah, it's in. Someone had this idea already.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Fuck if we thunk it, it's been done. Bro.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, I mean I mean not everything, but yes, this
this was, this was that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
So there you go, the Casket girls.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, we'll see when it comes out.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
We'll keep an eye, keep an eye. Yep. So yeah
again check the show notes. I have some pictures of
the Erstline convent there. But unfortunately, this historic holy place
over the centuries has gained a sinister reputation. You see,
when the remaining Casket Girls were whisked away back to France,

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apparently the Erstline nuns took whatever possessions the women left behind,
including their caskets and whatever was in the caskets, and
they brought it all up to the third floor of
the convent, just like the movie. Now, a short while later,
when the Erstline nuns went back up to the third
floor to store more stuff, to their surprise, the caskets

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were open and empty. Whatever was inside the caskets was
gone escaped. The nuns searched the third floor frantically to
no avail, and nothing was found of the caskets contents.
Vampire or otherwise. In a desperate bid to protect their
convent and perhaps the very soul of the fledgling colony,

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the Ersuline nuns took extraordinary measures. Fearing that the mysterious
caskets might harbor something unholy. The sisters acted swiftly. They
sealed the third floor of the convent, bolting the door
shut with heavy iron locks. But the cautions didn't end there.
Every window and shutter on the floor was nailed shut,

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but not with ordinary nails, but with holy iron. Blessed
by the Pope himself. These sacred nails, imbued with divine power,
were driven deep into the wood, creating an impenetrable bearer
against barrier against the malevolent forces. The nun's and tensions
were clear. If the caskets contained the undead, they would

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not allow such creatures to return to their resting places.
Hum Trapped without a way back to their caskets, the
unholy beings would be forced to wander the cobblestone streets
of the French Quarter, forever lost in the shadows. Some
might seek refuge among the cryps of Saint Louis Cemetery,

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while others, exposed to the unforgiving light of day would
meet their end in the cleansing flames of the sun.
The Ursuline Nun's actions remain a testament to their unwavering
faith and determination to protect their community from the unknown.
To this day, the sealed third floor of the convent
stands as a silent reminder of a time when the

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line between the living and the dead was a matter
of life and death, and when holy iron was the
only defense against the darkness. And again, please check the
show notes to see what the Ursuline combat looks like.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Dude, the riot shields were so cool the right you know,
I imagine them having the vampire some crazy shit. You know,
the more I think about this story, it would have
been cool. Obviously he's not the same director, but if
you imagine if Robert Egger's direct of that story Evil Dead. No,
Robert Egres is the guy who.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Did not farat to Okay, oh.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Very gothic. He does period pieces, really white at the Witch. Like,
I can imagine that guy doing this story and I'm
soob means that's gonna happen as it's like a fantasy draft,
but like it's so cool.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Anyway, awesome, So now let's jump to the nineteen seventies,
the me decade, a time of self discovery, bold fashion,
and for some, a fascination with the paranormal. It was
during this era that two daring paranormal investigators set their
sights on the infamous Ursuline Convent, a place steeped in

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dark legends and whispered tales of vampires. Their goal to
capture definitive proof of the other worldly, specifically the eerie
phenomenon of the third floor window shutters. According to local lore,
these shutters are said to open and close on their own,
as if moved by ghostly hands. Even today, in twenty

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twenty five, people swear they've seen these shutters swinging wildly
in the dead of the night, though concrete evidence of
this movement remains elusive. Anyway, the intrepid investigators camped out
in front of the convent, just beyond its protective wall,
cameras at the ready. They were determined to document the unexplained,

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to capture something that would prove once and for all
that the convent was a gateway to the paranormal. But
what they found, or what found them, was far more
horrifying than they could have imagined. When dawn broke and
while Bourbon street revelers were sleeping off their drunken escapades

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and watch for shame. It walks a shame. Our intrepid
investigators were discovered torn apart, their bodies mutilated as if
by some clawed beasts, their corpses completely drained of blood.
The scene was gruesome, the work of something far beyond
human comprehension. Despite a thorough investigation, no one was ever

(51:42):
brought to justice for the murders of our dear paranormal investigators.
The case remains unsolved, a grim reminder of the dangers
that lurk in the shadows. Vampires, some say, vampires everywhere.
So if you ever find yourself wandering the streets of
the French Quarter late at night, keep your eyes on
the Erstline Convent's third floor windows. And if you hear

(52:03):
the faint creak of centuries old shutters swinging open, heed
this warning. Call the Frog Brothers. Stat it's the Lost Boys. Reference.
Ask your parents. Oh, call the frog Brothers.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Okay, yeah, I'm back.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Sorry if I took you out of the moment, you good.
I had to.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
You're fine. That's funny.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Now let's jump back in time a bit to the
nineteen hundreds nineteen thirty two to be exact. Here we
find a story about two brothers, two vampire brothers named
John and Wayne Carter. The Carter brothers were accused of
kidnapping women, tying them up, and then slitting their wrists

(52:45):
just enough to keep them alive, and then drinking the
sweet ambrosia that flowed from the wounds. Now, all of
this horror takes place at the Carter brother's home at
the corner of Royal and Saint Anne in the French Quarter.
As the story goes, after drinking from their victim's wrists,
the Carter brothers would whisk away each morning just before

(53:08):
daybreak and not return until just after dark. When the
two returned, they would reopen the women's wounds, collect the
flowing blood into cups, and they would drink.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
On and on.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
This would go night after night. The brothers got so
used to and comfortable with their macabre routine that eventually
they got sloppy, and a girl they had captive inside
their home escaped while the brothers were out. The girl
ran frantically through the French Quarter, screaming and yelling, eventually
flagging down a police officer. After hearing the girl's wild

(53:44):
tales of bondage and blood drinking, the police decided to
check out the Carter brother's home, and they discovered that
the girl was in fact telling the truth. The police
discovered four other women bound to chairs, all with bandages
over their wrists, small amounts of ruby colored blood seeping
through the cotton white dressings. Police also discovered a number

(54:07):
of bodies hidden away in the home, all wrapped up
and drained of blood. Eventually, the Carter brothers were caught,
and they begged to be executed because they told the
authorities they were vampires and if they were released back
out in the streets of New Orleans, they would have
no other choice but to continue their ghoulish practices because
their thirst for blood was just too overwhelming to ignore.

(54:32):
The police obliged the brother's request, and John and Wayne
Carter were ultimately executed for their crimes and put to
rest in a family tomb. Now years later, when another
Carter family member died and was to be laid in
that same tomb, laid to rest in that same tomb
where John and Wayne Carter were. The tomb, when it
was opened, was empty. The Carter Brothers' bodies were gone.

(54:56):
No one knows what happened to him, and to this day,
especially around Marty gras Teim, people claim to see John
and Wayne Carter in the French Quarter, undead and well,
looking for their next victim.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
John Wayne Johnny. I kind of and you know, just be.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Sure check the show notes. I got pictures of their
home on Royal and Saint Anne. So yeah, creepy around
Maudi Gras time, they're they're sighted out there in the
French Quarter and.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
These are above ground tombs. Folks like because they can't bury,
they're dead and correct the way to water levels right, correctly, right,
So you know, everyone has a visual.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
There great cemeteries. I mean, if you're into that stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
That I saw, I remember the plantation stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Did you walk through with usow?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I don't know about with you guys. I think I did,
because I definitely saw cemeteries there are at the edge
of the water. One of them was like I thought
it was maybe maybe I imagine the shore being closer.
I could be wrong, but either way, I remember seeing
that the above ground stop. It was really cool, creepy, old,
very creepy. I also saw one of the plantation stuff
too as well. But yeah, I remember. I also remember

(55:59):
the heat so hot.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Oh god. Well, we tend to go when my wife
and the kids are off of school this summer. It's
July August. I mean, it's it's fucking miserable, but we
still do it. We still love it. But I've been
there for Halloween. It was great, great time. Yeah, October

(56:22):
is a great time to go. I've been there for
just before or just after New Year's. I don't think
we're there on New Year's but that late December early
January time another great time to go. You might need
a light coat or something. At night, there's more fog
kind of at night, it's and fog. The gas lanterns
kind of shining through the fog. A dude, it's another world.

(56:45):
It's another world, okay, but now today got a god
bless capitalism. Countless tour companies offer vampire tours of the
French Quarter that promise to take you your locations frequented
by actual vampires, like the old Arseline Convent. You could
drink at vampire themed bars and shop at vampire themed stores.

(57:08):
There's even a vampire speakeasy on Bourbon street, and I
won't tell you where, you have to find it yourself.
My wife and I have done all these tours and
we'd love them. But on a recent trip we made
to the Big Easy, we took a haunted carriage ride
through the French Quarter, which we hadn't done before, and surprisingly,
after having done every French Quarter tour imaginable, we were

(57:30):
told a fascinating story about a particular vampire that we
never heard before. Most of the tour companies rehashed the
same old stories, but this was something different. It was
the story of the two Saint Germains comp De Saint
Germain and Jacques Saint Germain, which if these two are

(57:51):
the same person, like many people believe, they are even
points in history. The things that happened to history point
to these two people being the same. Thing. That would
be that this guy lived for hundreds of years and
could even still be alive or undead today. So in

(58:11):
the early nineteen hundreds, a man named Jacques Saint Germain
arrived in New Orleans. Jacques was said to be about
age forty, and he was very handsome. He was elegant, wealthy,
over the top, extravagant, and a bit curious Jacques would
hold these excessive dinner parties at his home at ten

(58:34):
thirty nine Royal Street in the French Quarter, and no
penny was ever spared on food and drink, and very quickly,
Old Jacques became a hit among New Orleans' upper society.
At these parties, Jacques Saint Germain was famous for lavishing
his guests with wildly vivid stories of times past, long past,

(58:56):
and places passed France, Italy, Afric and even Egypt, reciting
the stories as fluidly as if he'd actually been there,
taking part in his stories hundreds of years prior. And
even though they were entertained by Jacques's wild stories, guests
whispered that it was quite odd that their host never

(59:17):
ate at his parties, choosing instead to let everyone else
feast while he stood by and watched and regaled and
sipped casually from his ornate chalice. Not one of these parties,
Jacques claimed he was a direct descendant of a man
named Comte de Saint Germain from the seventeen hundreds, who

(59:39):
was a close friend and servant to King Louis the
fifteenth and actually zach Jacques Saint Germain and Comte de
Saint Germain look uncannily similar. Listeners, check the show notes
and see for yourself. I've left pictures of both Jacques
Saint Germain and Compte de Saint Germain. I'm there so

(59:59):
you can see how similar they looked. Party guests even
commented how portraits of St. Comte de Saint you gotta
follow here. Okay, Comte de Saint Germain never seemed to
depict him being older than about forty, the same age
Jacques Saint Germain was when he arrived in New Orleans. Okay,
peculiar right. People even joked that Compte and Jacques were

(01:00:22):
one and the same, that somehow Comte de Saint Germain
from the seventeen hundreds had achieved immortality, and that it
wasn't Jacques Saint Germain in their mists, throwing these wild
parties and entertaining his guests with fantastical stories from time
long past, But it was in fact the fable Comte
de Saint Germain, who had actually been there in those exotic,

(01:00:43):
faraway places, which was how he could recite his stories
so perfectly. He lived them now, Jacques, whichever Jacques it
was relished in the stories of immortality, of his immortality.
He loved it, and he allowed his guests to believe
what they wanted to, never confirm or denying the rumors
about his origins. But of course, all good things must

(01:01:05):
come to an end, and one night, during one of
Jacques's lavish dinner parties, the police were called because a woman,
presumably a prostitute, fell from Jacques's balcony a full story,
landing in a crumpled mess in the street below. Now,
the woman survived, but she was badly injured, yet she
was able to tell the people gathered around her a

(01:01:27):
truly remarkable story. Turns out, the woman hadn't fallen, she
jumped find it, finding it more preferable to plummet to
the street below than spend another night alone with Jacques,
who had viciously bit around the neck moments before. Police,
not sure what to believe, cornered Jacques and insisted he

(01:01:50):
come to the police station the following morning to answer
some questions. They didn't want to bother a man of
Jacques's status with coming to the station that night while
he had his guests going and his party going drink
up that white privilege. Jack Well the next morning. Guess what,
Jock doesn't show up at the police station. He in
fact had disappeared, leaving nearly all of his belongings behind.

(01:02:14):
When police went back to his house on Royal Street,
they were shocked to find a large quantity of opened
but corked wine bottles filled with a mixture of wine
and human blood. Wow. Police also discovered closets full of
clothes from different time periods, all incredibly well preserved. And

(01:02:36):
this is where the legend of Comte de Saint Germain
being an actual vampire was born. And I just love
this story. It's kind of some real sympathy for the
devil shit, you know what I mean? Yeah, So, who
was this Comte de Saint Germain. Unfortunately we can't really
answer that question because this guy's an enigma. No one
could agree where he came from or what his lineage was.

(01:03:00):
There are no official birth records to pull from. It's
thought he was born in Bohemia at the end of
the seventeenth century, and he was the youngest son of
Prince Franz Leopold Ragassy of Transylvania and the Princess Charlotte
Amia of Hesse Wafrid I'm sorry Germany, Germany. She's from Germany. Yeah. So,

(01:03:21):
in other words, it's believed that Comte Saint Germain was
of noble birth. He was of noble birth, but sounds it. Yeah.
For whatever reason, he went off the reservation, separating himself
from his royal family, and he took on many different names.
We really don't even know if Saint Germaine was this
guy's real name. Okay, some even question if he's ever
really existed at all, except for the fact that prominent

(01:03:42):
people of the time, namely Louis the fifteenth documented him
wrote about him, so he was most likely real, and
just like Jacques Saint Germaine in New Orleans, he spun
these fantastically realistic tales about times and places long past,
and he claimed to have been present at historical milestones.
And he even claimed to have had face to face

(01:04:02):
conversations with Cleopatra and the Queen of Sheheba, which if true,
would make Comte de Saint Germain over five hundred years
old at that time. In a letter written by Horace Warpole,
the fourth Earl of Oxford, Warpole described Comte de Saint
Germain like this quote. He's an odd man who goes

(01:04:24):
by the name of Comte Saint Germain, and he had
been here these two years, and will not tell us
who he is or whence, but professes that he does
not go by his right name. He sings, plays on
the violin wonderfully composes, is mad and not very sensible.
He's called an Italian, a Spaniard, a poll a, somebody

(01:04:45):
that married a great fortune in Mexico and ran away
with her jewels to Constantinople, a priest, a fiddler, a
vast nobleman. The Prince of Wales has had unsatiated curiosity
about him, but in vain end. Quote that's all quote
from this warpole guy. So he's documented. Now yet another
prominent historical figure mentioning the Compte. Yet another prominent historical

(01:05:10):
figure besides Louis the fifteenth mentioning the comp So to me,
this guy was definitely real. It was claimed that Comte
de Saint Germain was an aristocrat with no exact profession,
yet he could produce money whenever he needed it. It
was said he could produce diamonds out of thin air
and turn common stone into jewels, and could spin metal
into gold, which led Voltaire, the famous French historian and philosopher,

(01:05:34):
to call Compe to Saint Germain quote the wonder man,
a man who does not die and who knows everything
end quote. So another historical figure documenting this guy, the
Countess of Sergei France, recognized Comte de Saint Germain as
a man she met in Venice, fifty years old earlier.
Only he did in age. Another historical figure right worried

(01:05:55):
about de Saint Germain's immortality, spread fast across Paris. After that,
our man traveled all corners of Europe, impressing nobility with
his stories, his good looks, even though he was described
as dreadfully pale, interesting and he was a hit with
the ladies. He was the perfect liar, it was said,

(01:06:16):
but never offensive, and he never seemed to age. The
fact that he didn't seem to age, Comte de Saint
Germain said was due to an elixir of life he
obtained at a great expense, although he never said what
that great expense was. And so he traveled country to country,
court to court, kingdom to kingdom, impressing all as he

(01:06:37):
went up until his supposed death in seventeen eighty four.
In Hamburg, Germany. But even though the death was recorded
in the register of Saint Nikolai Church in the town
of Eckenford, Germany, Comte de Saint Germain was still seen
all over Europe and of course, quite possibly in the
Vocarie the French court of New Orleans and the early

(01:06:57):
nineteen hundreds. Now, even as recent as the nineteen seventies,
there was a man who claimed to Pcomte de Saint Germain.
What his name was Richard Chanfrey, a Parisian magician and
self proclaimed psychic, an alchemist who claimed he could achieve
the alchemical dream turning lead into gold, and apparently he could.

(01:07:19):
As magicians, scientists, and jewelers were invited to some of
Chanfrey's events and none of them could figure out how
he turned lead into gold. Chanfrey claimed that a mysterious
man passed on this awesome knowledge of how to turn
lead into gold, but he would never reveal who this
mystery man was, and just kind of pause here as

(01:07:41):
an aside, did you know that this is now possible
turning lead into gold.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
As like a scientific thing?

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
This is a thing now, no I know. So scientists
at Cerne, of course, have successfully transmuted turned lad into
gold by colliding led nuclei at near light speeds together
a particle accelerator. The process is known as electromatic dissociation,
and it ejects protons from lead nucleus, transforming it into gold.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Oh, because the gold weight of it is like less protons,
so I don't know the science behind. Like an a
periodic table, the number of it must be less. So
when they shoot it into the in these the accelerator,
the AI and they take out the protons, and I
guess that changes. It's now imagining. I'm I'm positive, I'm

(01:08:33):
way off. I'm being very reductive elementary about it. But
that's how it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Feels crazy, right, It's crazy. We're alchemists now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
I mean it took us as long we had alchemy before.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Us and Richard Chanfrey or alchemist, apparently concerned all right anyway.
Chanfrey also claimed to hold power over immortality. In one
story I read, a Spanish journalist was invited into Chanfrey's home.
Upon entering, the journalists found a dead dog laying on
the floor, but Chanfrey sprinkled some magical powder over the dog,

(01:09:04):
and miraculously, the dog got up and began to walk away.
Before falling down and remaining perfectly dead for good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
This time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
It was also well documented that Chanfrey could walk into
ancient castles and palaces and immediately understand their layouts, knowing
somehow where even the hidden rooms and passageways were, almost
like he'd been to the before. At some point long ago,
after falling on hard times and doing a few prison stints,

(01:09:34):
Richard Chanfrey, along with his lover, the Barreness Paula Delu,
killed themselves by ingesting barbituoits and sucking car exhaust. That's
the official story. But to look at pictures of Richard
Chanfrey and Comte de Saint Germain and comparing the two,
there really is a likeness there. Check the show notes

(01:09:55):
and see for yourself. Is this Comte de Saint Germain
in our modern times? So who knows? Maybe Chanfrey's suicide
was just a well crafted story by a notorious liar,
but never an offensive liar, and the real Compe de
Saint Germain is still out there throwing lavish parties as
some faraway land, watching his guest's feast on expensive meats,

(01:10:17):
cheeses and wines will comp to Saint Germain quietly watches
from Afar, grinning as he greedily SIPs out of his
ornate chalice. All right, vampires man, vampires everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
What do you think about this guy?

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I fucking love it. I love this story. I want
it to be real. There's so many weird coincidence. Look
at the pictures that they do look similar, not only
Chanfrey and Compte de Saint Germain, but Jacques Saint Germain
and Compe de Saint Germain. Similar. Compte is documented through
history by very noteworthy people, Voltaire lu the fifteenth, those

(01:10:59):
other people, whatever, war Pole Strange. I do. I do
love it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I do want them to be real. It seems it
seems like like it's close to being possible to be real.
That'd be kind of fun. The casket of girls obviously
not vampires, but you can see how that kind of
turmoil and death produces these superstitions, superstitions. Yeah, yeah, you

(01:11:29):
can totally see it, and just lasting lore. Yeah, that's
what New Orleans is, voodoo and vampires. Yeah, it's amazing.
How like what kind of stupidity people were, like, the
type of like people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
It's not so I don't think it's stupid, it's just superstition,
it's yeah, but it's more than that because like you know,
science doesn't exist then, so it's yeah, it's superstitious's ghost,
it's supernatural. It's vampires.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
But we know it's wrong, we know that's not it. Yeah,
of course, of course, but people also for our strategic radiation.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Right, I wouldn't call them stupid, They just didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
No, that's I mean. And you know what stories like
this you remind me stories that this always made me
think of, like how much death is required for us
to learn a lesson? Well, yeah, absolutely, this is Yeah,
this is like a version of that, right, how much

(01:12:24):
everything and everything? Like you think of every successful landing
to the moon or space exploration, like how many deaths
did they require to get up there? Like to learn
to put that put a heel heat shield on this?
He should we yeah, I think we should might be
a good We need windows on this right, right? It

(01:12:46):
is insane?

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's interesting. I want
it to be real. When you're there, it's real. You know,
when that guy passed us, I still think there was
something with that guy guy, you know, maybe he was
a kill and I got a vibe maybe just a
normal human, creep bad person. I just caught that vibe.
But it was strange. It was strange, and you know,

(01:13:08):
especially in the colder season the New Orleans, when the
fog rolls in off that Mississippi at night, you're walking
those streets and you're by yourself with your significant other,
you're walking under those gas lanterns. It's real. It's real.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
It's not fun, it's fantastic. I hope you liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
I didn't like it, and I remember it. I remember
the first time back then.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
So because we did this before on Patreon as.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
A Patreon thing, but you go, but I remember any
of it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
I added, I changed up, so I.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Kind of think of what I remembered. Nothing. It was
all new to me again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
So a long time. It's been quite a few years
since we did this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Yeah, I like it a lot. I hope people dug
it too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
I hope you did too. I felt like I tossed
my words a few times. I apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Now, you're fine.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
We already had a few edits there. I hope. I
just hope it was enjoyable for you guys. We worked
hard on it, so yeah, all right, Oscar is at it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
I think we're good man?

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Are you taking us home?

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Do that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
My worst nightmare? My worst fear?

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Yeah, I know, wor worst word in the American Aliens?
And then airplanes, so the top.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Three alien airplanes and cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Can you imagine being beamed up as you're being flown,
So that's the airplane by aliens and the beamings. The
beaming gives you cancer.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
And their spiders somewhere but somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
No, the aliens are spiderific. They have a legs.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
That's it. That's that's the quad fact. That's why the
end of Close Encounters freaks me out. I love the movie,
great movie, fantastic movie. But when those aliens come out,
they do they one of them has like these really
long arms and legs, and it does it makes me
think of a spider and it freaks me out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
You think the Aliens of Arrival were very creepy because
they they're basically like technically rival.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Weren't they smoky though, Like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
They're smoky. There's a screen behind them because they can't
like breathe our air. But like yeah, when you see them,
they're like very squiddy and multiple legs so multiple limbs.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
No, no, no, but they have alien at the end
of the Close Encounters is creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Would you watch a horror movie that has like spiders
in it? Don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
You know, so there's one out right now or two
out right now, isn't there? Like, yeah, I don't remember
the names of them. One of them. I think spiders
took over like an apartment building. Yeah right, yeah, no,
I don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
To I love that one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
I don't want to see it's so good. Okay, it's like,
let's watch.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Them like it even creeped me out. And I like spiders.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Obviously, oh yeah, right, no, no, no, And then I
thought there was two that kind of came back.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
There's another one, right, it was as like a name.
It's called the thing that's it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Was it? That was spiders too, right? That was one spider,
one spider, okay, one one big one that gets better.
I'm good. No, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Racking Aphobia or anything. I gonna watch that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Didn't they remake the Rackmophobia?

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
No, I thought they did. Maybe. Yeah, No, it's a
horrible movie. They're horrible. Yeah, I still want with John Goodman, right,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I thought it was I was, so, I know that's
not that I was thinking the guy from Scream MILLII
in Dewey Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
That was eight Legged Freaks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Oh my bad? That was That was my bad? Okay,
I computed to the movies. Yeah, but you wouldn't watch
that either, even though it was more of a fun ride.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
You think I might have seen eight Legged Freaks and
you okay with it? Was yeah, because it was can't
can't be in but like a rackingophobia dude, Like I
still all our shoes are in the garage, right, like
when I go to put my shoes on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
One in Australia. In Australia, right, that's like in the
Isn't that like a worry? They have like the door
handle for.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
All you had to say was fucking Australia. You know
are standing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
You've seen those videos that's in tech talks of like
Australians going to their car and then underneath the door handle.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
I was like, seriously, dude, I feel like some of them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I don't know, I'm sure it's real.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Well, Australia is the one. Also, they have the videos
where the things are on the wall and they're bigger
than your hand. Yeah, oh yeah, they're like, key mate, no,
fuck you, I'm off this continent crikey.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Mate, Yeah, I mean I I am with you. I
mean that's too much, that's too much for me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Or like the pictures. Have ever seen the pictures of
the coconut crab?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
No, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
So this is a fucking scary motherfucker. Yeah, these these
pieces of shit, these things.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Oh that was cool.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Just wait, just wait yeah yeah yeah, oh wow, terrifying
from hell.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
That's Australian native.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
I don't it could be probably be fucking yeah, yeah,
those are those are awful. A spider commonly found in
southern India. Okay, fuck off.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Oh so it is a spider, not a crab.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
I guess. So, I guess they're called the coconut crab spider,
got it, got it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
And there's a famous one. You'll see this. I'm like,
but now, this one I think is really a crab.
You'll see that on social media and stuff going around,
because that's bigger than garbage can. Yeah. Okay, I'm done.
I didn't mean the group done done done.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
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