December 12, 2022 • 37 mins
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(00:31):
Oscar. What the hell are youdoing here? What do you mean you
invited me? This is very strange. Listen, my car crashed? Can
I just get a cup of sugar? Is that what neighbors do? That
is what neighbors do? And thenyou fuck their wife? God? Oh,
I didn't wait? Are we recording? Can I go to the other
neighbors? It's too personal. Iknow you guys too much. We've done
(00:53):
been recording. We're recording right now. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas listeners.
I don't even know how many listenerswe have left anymore. Sweeping drink,
it's three and it's you and Iand then the third person that's yeah,
yeah, so Merry Christmas listeners.Whoever's left it's I think it's literally almost
it's got to be a year tothe day last since we last recorded,
(01:15):
because I think when we were recordingepisode one fifty i Isy Sagawa the Cannibal,
I think we were signing off forChristmas saying Merry Christmas because it was
like a demented Christmas episode. Yeahthat sounds like you, right, Yeah,
that sounds like you. And thenwe were supposed to come back in
either January or February and we nevercame back. That's right. Yeah,
(01:36):
that's usually our season or like ourtime off, right, Yes, yeah,
yeah, it's like a summer break, right, except it because you
take fifty vacations work as heavy andbefore and around that area, so you
like, you know, I rememberthat, yes, yeah, yeah,
during that time. Yeah, sowe decided we're going to take a break.
(01:56):
It's just the break lasted for ayear, and for that, I
mean, I'm heartfelt apologizing to ourlisteners. I'm not he can do it
for me live in my best life. No, okay, I have not,
but we'll get to that in aminute. But no, I don't.
Yeah, obviously I do apologize.I don't have the heartfelt us.
(02:20):
But what I do have is likeI feel like I feel like when a
young couple, especially young people,you know, they take a break.
They don't break up, right,but they take a break, and this
is the guy. It's like,the audience is the guy in this normal
situation normally, I mean, andwe're the girl each other, We're gonna
take a break, we want tobreak, but it ended up being a
(02:42):
breakup because the last of the wholeyear and now we're back after like,
you know, trying out different podcasts, not really sleeping around with different podcasts,
right, and then and then wecome back to the audience like,
okay, the break is over.Now did you miss us? You know
I missed you, honey. Youknow that's how it feels. It does
(03:05):
it does? It feels it feelsweird. It was crazy. Put we're
face to face. We're face god, we are fuck covid now right,
So March twenty twenty. March oftwenty twenty is the last time we were
face to face doing this, right, face to face it in the studio
in my home with the good micsand that pick up every that means we
were in quarantine? Were before?That was before, right before quarantine.
(03:29):
Yeah, that's when quarantines happened.Yeah, that's right. So in a
few months, it'd be three yearssince we did this. Face. Your
hairline looks amazing. Everything else isfalling apart, oh yeah yeah everything yeah
gray and tatters. I don't knowwhat's going on with your skin over there,
but yeah, yeah I'm falling apart. Yeah it's ok. Yeah,
So I just wanted to get onthe mics. I really missed it.
(03:51):
Fuck twenty twenty two is all Ihave to say. Fuck twenty twenty two.
It was a terrible year for me. A lot, a lot happened.
We were supposed to come back inJanuary or February. I can't remember
what we said which month, Butin January of this year I wound up
if something happened to me health wise, and I wound up in the hospital
(04:15):
physical therapy. A shitty couple months, something something, something, a big
setback at work. I'm still employed, same company, but there was a
huge setback. Well also, COVIDhit it. I mean we talked about
this too. Oh wait, no, that's twenty I'm still we're talking about
(04:38):
this year. This year feels likefive years and twenty twenty felt like it
happened twenty years ago. I'm tryingof like or seven years ago. Really,
and just sorry, I'm back ontop. Time. Is funny when
you start thinking over these past coupleof years, the COVID years, it's
very dogs funny. It's dog years. Yeah. So yeah, I wound
up in the hospital physical therapy,had a big setback at work that I'm
(04:59):
still dealing with. I I realizedthere were unresolved issues that I had after
my father's passing, everything kind ofculminated into I just couldn't. I think
depression is what it was. Yeah, I'm still trying to call my way
out of it. And you know, one of the one of the symptoms
(05:19):
of that is you stop enjoying thehobbies you once loved. You completely stop
doing those things. And that's yeah. He stopped recording, he stopped taking
me out on dates. It wasvery compressing. It was it was really
bad. And I just said,I'm still trying to claw my way out
of it. But I realized thatI have to get a hobby back.
I have to get back on themics, researching and doing something that I
(05:42):
love. So fuck twenty twenty two. Now, I'm not committing to a
schedule on the podcast right now.You know, we used to do every
two weeks religiously, and then wedid like once a month, and and
the and the and the eve andthe home stretch of our of our break
because it was getting heavy and obviously, which is a precursor to why we
(06:02):
took the year off. Really it'sreally what it is like the eye of
the store. Maybe I don't knowwhat and and now we know, you
know, and yeah, no schedule. It could be like Dan Carlin,
what's up? Dan Carlin is afamous podcast, or he does history,
he recurked whenever. Yeah, hejust does it whenever he can. That's
(06:25):
that's a stick. I like it. I think that's what we could do
for now. Yeah, we'll,we'll, we'll put out some stuff.
I started researching something, right,and I was like, well, no,
do not get excited. I startedbecause you know you what was was
two weeks ago, three weeks agoyou told me that you want to come
back. Yeah, about three weeksago, and I was like, oh
great, And then I texted youat some point after that like, oh,
(06:46):
I started researching something. And Ishould have said, like, I
had no idea how to do thisagain because so many false starts. I
got like one pair of dumb it'sdumb. There's nowhere near done. Anyway.
I'm rusty. Yeah, me too, me too. Well, your
skin looks rusty too. I don'thave anything wrong skin, so listeners know
(07:08):
I'm not like a leper over hereyou have. Yeah. And then our
our website was brought down twice.It was hacked and completely destroyed twice.
That sucked. So we had tofinally and it's up now Chicago ghost podcast
(07:28):
dot com. That was from goDaddy. I got hacked and brought down
twice from go Daddy really had tobe rebuilt twice. Yes, So now
we finally migrated all the data offof go daddy servers and put them onto
a private server from our our hostingserver, our web design company. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like in the Philippinesor whatever. You were serious.
(07:49):
I was just and so they're they'remoneery constantly and uh there yeah, so
we should be good there. Ourmerch shop is back up, you know,
that's all up and running. I'mvery happy about that. But just
stuff like that. Man, fucktwenty twenty two, it sucked. Yeah.
Now how about for you, Iknow for a time you took on
(08:11):
a new job before the government.That's right. Our schedule was another reason
our schedules changed. That's right.It did change because I only had I
had two days off only, whichwas I don't remember Tuesday, Wednesday or
something like that. It was somethingreally weird, something weird. Couldn't meet,
right, that was gonna be hardto meet because that schedule was like
two am or something till eleven am. Yeah, crazy, some weird hour,
(08:37):
Yeah, some weird time. Iquit it very soon after that,
Yeah, because so real quickly.The job was for I don't mind saying
it. They don't care either.It was for goodwill, specifically the goodwill
at a Navy base. They basicallyserved the troops. Yes, I was
serving the troops, very weird job, serving them food, serving them food,
sorry, serving them food, feedingthem three times a day. That
(08:58):
was all that was our job andeverything that entailed, which is preparing all
that cleaning and shared managing. Iwas one of the managers. And they're
wrong. The job itself, itwas, it's technically manageable. Do they
manage it? Well, no,it's a crazy zoo down there, And
well I didn't know. I don't. This is what I'm fun with.
(09:20):
No government, that's my first.This is not a real government job because
I'm working for a nonprofit, butlike it is because I'm working on their
soil, so I do have tofollow their rules and shit. So that's
probably why you know, it wasso weird there for me. But I
was like, like, I cantough this off for like a year.
(09:41):
Nope, six weeks is all Ilasted before I was like yeah, life
is too short for this. Itpaid more than I was for sure a
good amount more, but it wasn'tworth it, Like I was gonna my
soul was gonna die like the restof them. A lot of people were
very depressed on there, who werelike eyes glazed over with you know,
or like hired to the bone kindof thing, or like every day is
(10:03):
like a new upheaval that they bringon something, all this unnecessary baggage,
unnecessary baggage. I started immediately andlike, no, I don't want to
deal with this. I don't needmy life to be a sitcom that isn't
funny. So I quit and Iwent I went back to Starbucks. There
you go. Yeah, and ittook me back into Harpy. They had
not replaced me, and they werewere raised too, right. Yeah,
(10:24):
yeah, Yeah, it's it's coolthat you you realize that, Hey,
the money isn't worth losing a partof myself. Yes, I've always done
that. This is why I've alwayslived, you know, lived kind of
minimally because I don't I'd rather havea peace of mind than a lot of
money. Yeah, I've never beenthat kind of person. And that's really
kind of where I'm at now too, like, is this is this money
(10:45):
worth my health? Because mental healthis just as important as your physical health.
Mental health and physical health. Yeahfor Trusty, as it's killing me,
that's it is. So I understandwhat you're saying and brab with you
for pulling the trigger on that.You know. Yeah, well it's well
like pulling the trigger and take thetrigger at the bullet back because the first
big change was taking this job,and then the big change after that is
(11:07):
going back. You know. That'sfunny, but it's good. They took
you back and you got a raise. Yeah, and then I remember,
no one wants to close, noone wants to whoever what happens? Then?
I remember you were also really sicktoo. It wasn't COVID. Do
you remember. I do remember thatyou were down from I don't remember what.
I'm trying to remember what it was. It's been til long now.
(11:28):
Yeah, but it wasn't COVID becausethat's what we thought at first. Yeah,
I still haven't really gone COVID.You didn't, I did. I
wound up getting it. Yeah,I remember that. But you have kids
though, it's like basically gonna happen. It's like a matter of time,
not if, but when nothing wouldNico, my son hasn't gotten it.
We all of us, me,my wife and daughter have got it.
But yeah, I remember you weresuper sick. So it's just another thing
that added to you know, extendingthe recording and just one thing after another,
(11:54):
one thing after another. And didfeel that way. But this year,
you know, that's scene in Seinfeld. Sorry for younger people out there,
let's face it, you're not theyounger the is this the episode side
of the Summer of George. Summerof George? I don't remember that one.
Well, well, he decides thisyear I'm gonna make a change.
(12:15):
This is gonna be the summer ofme. I'm going to be a successful
something in something. I kind ofdid that not not a summer of Oscar,
but it was more like I calledI didn't call it anything. What
I what I did is that Iwent out online, mainly online but also
in physical form, going out andaccept trying to like make new friends.
(12:37):
That's what I try to do thisyear, make new friend. I accepted
all applications whatever, no matter howweird you were or what, like the
polar opposite of what I don't careif you're accept I'm accepting kind of thing.
And so how did that turn out? So weird ups and down ups
(12:58):
and downs, some of them inthe form of like through a dating app,
I met a few people that wereinterested only in making friends, and
I was fine with that, andso I did hang out with a few
people, some of which, likeI found I don't wanna say uninteresting.
They're not uninteresting, but I foundthem to be like, oh, you
know, maybe I'm not really feelingit out as even friends much less something
(13:20):
more amorous. And others they didthe same to me, They're like,
maybe they're not feeling it right.So a lot of that, a lot
of like almost potential friends, butno follow ups, no real hangouts after
you know, maybe one more timea bar here or a drink there,
or a game top whatever here.But overall, I think I've made like
(13:43):
three four new friends that I havebeen pretty steady since nice. So yeah,
that's way more. That's four hundredpercent so o kadness that I have
other friends with. But yeah,that's been. That was that was a
lot of fun. And I'm meetingsomeone new next week possibly tomorrow as well.
Yeah, somewhere loading been loading itup. Yeah, and I guess
(14:03):
a lot of people are pretty lonelyin the holidays a lot. Yeah,
it's been catching a lot of peoplebeing like unfortunately for them, obviously left
out from their families, you know, from either from this year as a
new thing or overall in their life. And I'm like, yeah, let's
do something, you know, kindof you're brightening other people's lives, trying
(14:24):
tofully Yeah, with a dark light. That's the problem. That's my That's
well, there is such a thing. I was listening to the news the
other day. There's I can't rememberthe name they gave it, but it's
a it's a depression. It's it'sa thing that settles on some people around
Christmas time when Christmas does not turnout to be picture perfect like the movies.
(14:46):
So it's like postpartum depression, butfor holidays. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like that actual thing. Notto say that that's the same expectation,
by the way, I'm just sayingwhen when the Christmas doesn't come out the
way they do in the movies,it's it's a thing, well that will
never happen. At a name forit, it's really crazy. Yeah,
we have a name for a lotof not dumb things, but a lot
of things we wouldn't expect. Yeah, and that could be, that makes
(15:07):
sense. I didn't know that.Yeah, it's crazy. Lexi Raven will
not be this is the Ketchup show, right, this is this, This
is the Ketchup Show. Lexi Ravenwon't be joining us on the show any
longer. We didn't mention that onthe show because we were doing we're still
doing podcasts. I don't believe wedid. I think I know. I
said I didn't want to at first, but I never did. I really
don't think so. I think wekept it hush hush, Okay, So
(15:30):
uh, six months before we tooka break from y'all around six months,
I like said, I broke up. We're not taking a break right,
No, no, broke yeah,yeah, yeah, and it's fine.
It was surprisingly mutual. Again notto reference semn felt all day, but
it wasn't like that breakup where theyboth wanted it they handshake it like all
(15:50):
right, bye bye. It wasn'tlike that, but it was like understandably
from both our ends here. Soso yeah, so it was amicable,
good good. Yeah, and sheis now with child. Well, no,
she has a child. Which childthat means that, Oh yeah,
I guess that would. She hasa kid, but she's still with it.
(16:14):
Thank you you opened that up forme. She has a kid now
as a kid Ariel, Ariel,it's beautiful. I'm only saying that because
it's a R I E L LE. But I think she just says
Ariel. But the way it's spellis like Ariel. Okay, alright,
like loreal. I don't know.Yeah, I've seen a picture beautiful,
beautiful. Oh you've seen yeah,Facebook, right, Katie showed me.
I'm not on Facebook anymore. Idon't. I don't do anything on Facebook,
(16:37):
but Katie showed me. Yeah.Also I don't do with Facebook because
a snapchat that I know also Twitternowadays. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna
pay for that blue check just todo it. I always wanted that.
Those funny things though, with theblue checks, it's so good. Yeah,
so so LEXI won't be here.She has a child, beautiful Ariel.
(16:57):
Yeah, we'll miss her on theshow. She was always a fun
addition, it should be said,though not my kid. Oh good.
We didn't say that, No,we did make it sound like airy.
I don't know how to spell itlike, no, no, no,
it's not my kids. Yeah,that's fucked up. No, that's fucked
up. But hopefully nobody quits quitin the moments between me saying me making
(17:18):
you assume that that's right, right, exactly hopefully. Yeah, you didn't
jump the gun on leaving the showforever again after our break? No,
no, no, not my kid. Yeah, it's a fun story,
though. If you get me offfor a few drinks, I'll tell you
the whole story. But that's theonly requirement you need though. Drinks.
Yeah, boom up, put it, Yeah, exactly, loom up.
Speaking of drinks, you're not drinkingyour eh, Taylor over there are well,
(17:41):
I don't have to make too muchsounds. I feel like this thing
is hearing my stomach growling. It'sgreat. I had to unplug the sun
pump over here. Mm hmm.Yeah, so that that happened again.
Fuck twenty twenty two. Yeah.Also, the dating world awful. It's
pretty dismal, bearing wasteland of nonsense. Really, did you know that I
did not? Yeah, it's prettybad. However it was in your day.
(18:03):
There's been like three different waves ofdating that you missed out on.
Thankfully, thank God. And Idon't know how I miss I just said
three waves at the top of myhead. But let's just say three or
four, right, because you're thatold. I feel it. Yeah,
you feel yeah, yeah, thegray everywhere, he's fine, he's why
did I come back to this?I don't know. I mean, you
(18:26):
know me, so the guy changed. I went bitter, bitterer, more
bitter, the bitters, I know. That's what I'm just thinking. I
was saying. Anyway, let's saythree waves of dating. Somehow in the
first two ways of dating from mylateeens, thirty twenties to the early thirties
or whatever, it's been somehow aball enough, like enough where I get
(18:48):
to play the field. I understandwhat's going on roughly human content seems something
attainable. And then this last waveit's insane. I don't understand anything that's
going on me. They don't either, and I think we're all pretending we
do, but no one we understands. It is a mindfield of nonsense.
So what is it? This isvery interesting. I get ghosted so much,
Jay, which is a common thing, very common, so common,
(19:11):
right that uh, it's like Iexpect it. I expected it for everyone
all the time, and it's likeI feel like I think of a good
I feel like Casper. I wasgonna make a Pokemon reference, but you
don't know Pokemon Caspar. Caspar isthe Hispanic Ghostspar. Yeah, okay,
I go with that. Is thereCaspital. I love it, I think
(19:33):
so, I actually don't know.Don't quote me on that. I think
it's called caspital. It is nowbetter and not just that, but weird
things that I feel, and it'svery politically heavy and charged out there,
very very very I dated both oppositeends of the spectrum. It's been fun.
(19:56):
I won't tell you that. I'mnot gonna I'll tell you, but
like I'm not gonna, h it'sbeen a very interesting ride seeing what also
turns them off is funny to meanto like, Yah, it's fun.
It's it's it's fun bad but fun. Like I'm I'm tolerantly making fun of
it. But yeah, but stilllike I'm you know, still meeting new
people and whatever. And one ofthose people has become like a friend.
(20:19):
So that's been interesting. Nice.Oh yeah, So, like I said,
accepting all friends invites no problem.Uh, listeners, dating sucks so
stay away from my Jesus contact atChicago ghost podcast dot com. Be Oscar's
friend. Yeah, exactly, he'llbe your friend. We'll watch movies.
Also another update, getting a roommatesoon. You're getting a roommate part of
(20:42):
the one on these new friends noship. Yeah, know them well enough
to it's a her and yes,know them well enough? Yes, okay,
very well enough. Oh like that? Oh no, I didn't mean
that. Oh okay, kind ofsounds like you're right, it did.
No, that's that's a that's somethingelse, right, that's not a roommate
(21:03):
either way. I'm getting a roommateto like lower the living of my cost
cost of living, That's what I'mmeant to say, stop drinking, yes,
and uh, just to make iteasier. And also she needs us
change desperately, so she wants toget out of a bad situation. And
I'm not saying I'm the best intown, but I'm better than and what
she needs as far as cost.And we're a mat and yeah, it's
(21:23):
working out and that's gonna happen inthe next few months less even Yeah,
nice, very soon changes. Yes, I got plants, plants, I
got plants in my house. That'stwo two plants. They're still alive,
speaking of I had three one ofthem die though. You go, how
are the sugar glighters? They're amazing, so they cute. Thanks, thanks
(21:47):
for that, my mom. Stillno, no, no, no,
no, no, it's fine.The only time I get asked by people
is when they they always say like, oh, how are the sugar laris?
Are they still alive? That's usuallyalways what I get when people ask
that you did Oh didn't you?I said, do you still have them?
Oh? Did you say maybe?Maybe? I like, what do
(22:07):
you? What do you call it? You were just anticipating me? No,
no, no, there's a badword for it. There's a I
projected on you. Stop projecting onme. I'm trying not to, but
it was so easy. Clearly Ipicture you as my mom because my mom
asked me that that's a whole Well, we've gotta talk about that one.
Well. The gray hair is matching. It's just in my beard. Yeah.
Could you heard me doing that?He's like, Cando, Yeah,
(22:30):
I can't fuck these mic Like,I'm afraid to move my feet on the
carpet. I'm afraid I've already beenmaking noise. I said, don't stop
yourself. Just don't make any extraordinarynoises, like don't farty or don't hold
any either, because we'll hear iton the inside. Yeah, yeah,
okay, okay. I almost boughta house in Florida. That's right.
(22:52):
I was gonna mention that and again, fuck twenty twenty two because that all
fell apart. Yeah, what wasthe name of the hurricane? I had
the house? I had that down. We were moving to Florida. We
were supposed to move October twenty eighth. That's right, we were supposed to
move. I was gonna hate yourguts when you move because it was kind
of sunning for me because I heardabout it like a month before. You
did it, right, because youwere looking at houses. I think,
yeah, I'm like that soon.I know, stay here, what are
you did? I had so manymixed emotions, but you know, that's
(23:15):
our ultimate goal is to get downthere, and you know, I want
my mom to ekamble to take mymom with us, and I want her
to be down there. But HurricaneIan came again. I heard, you
know, just the year is terrible. Hurricane Ian came and screwed everything.
As we were closing on the houseis when Ian as when we were supposed
to close on the house, iswhen Ian made landfall. So everything got
(23:38):
screwed up with the clothes, withtrying to secure insurance. And this was
it was an expensive home. Itwas, it was an expensive home.
Can't have it without insurance. SoIan screwed all that up. I just
barely got all my money back fromyou know, my down payment. Thank
god I got it back. Andthat's another thing that happened. Just that
(23:59):
screwed everything up, you know,or screwed with me. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just not a good year,listeners, just not a good year.
Now you don't have to get backinto you don't have to try to
come up with one. But isthere anything that went well this year?
Yeah? Traveling, traveling. Theonly time I'm truly happy is when I'm
traveling with my family. No,he's only happy, guys, when he's
(24:19):
in an airport waiting for that airplaythat listeners know that that that has been
with us since the beginning. Hehates playing. So I had to go
to Jersey because I think everyone knowsthat I work from home. Yeah,
I'm a remote worker now, andI had to go to New Jersey in
April for a sales meeting. That'sthe beginning of our fiscal year is April
(24:41):
April one. And it was cool. I won a trip. I got
some diamonds that added to my myring that I secured for being great at
sales. And it was a greatmeeting. But I fucking drove the Jersey.
I drove the New Jersey and everyonemade fun of me. But you
know what, people are getting delayedon the way home, can't get into
the air, you know, justall these problems. But even with those
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delays, the probably still got therehome on time. They did. But
I was less stressful and I'm justcruising man, having a good time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Soit just I just needed to get back
on the mics is basically. Yeah. I also had a trip too.
I went to Kentucky, that's right, because you brought me back like eight
bottles of whiskey. Yeah, youfucking fucking ordered things, but you were
(25:26):
like whisky fucking this is my Amazonoscars, my Amazon today, I think
I have I think I have oversixty something bottles of whiskey in this house.
But yeah, you went to Kentucky, you did the bourbon trail,
A lot of bourbons. Yeah,yeah, a lot of distilleries, primarily
Buffalo Trace. We went to likethree times because they changed their main shit
every day, which we didn't knowuntil it got there. And you can
(25:48):
only buy one bottle per customer orper person. So yeah, we went
back. Yeah, so we tookadvantage of there. We went to the
Looks Looks I want to say distillery. We went to the US I don't
sore. No, it's not luxwith us, not right, it's something
like that. I don't know.We went to a bunch of them,
including the big some of the bigones. I know, you brought me
quite a few bottles of will It, Yeah, brought me a bottle of
(26:08):
each Taylor. There was some Dickle. I think you got me sounds right,
George Dickle. So you had togo to those stilleries. We went
to the I think you got meBuffalo Trace too. Yeah, you got
my bottle Buffalo Trace probably Eagle Rare, Yes, a ten year bottle Eagle
(26:29):
Rare. Fucking sweet. I know. That's when we came back. We
went back for it. So whenwe went back, so they each Taylor.
So when we went to the thefirst day to the Buffalo Trace.
They had the h Taylor that day, and obviously I bought one, only
one, of course, And Iwas like because I had taste tests of
it before right in the in thetour, and I was like, this
is pretty good. Should I giveit to Should it be nice and give
(26:52):
this one to J? And thenlike yeah, okay. And then the
next day I was like okay.So and then we found out through online
probably someone on the chat or somethingsaid that they had the Eagle rare on
the next day, Like, oh, that's what I want, and that
fuckers for me. I ain't gamebecause I don't get one right right,
And I was like, and then, but we had other friends that didn't
drink bourbon, and they were like, they never came with us the first
(27:15):
time. They just they stayed atthe Airbnb, and but we convinced them
to go with us, so wecan use their person to buy another bottle
for us. So I got someoneto pair up with me, and that's
how I got you the second thesecond A we're got it. So yeah,
it's an age stated ten year Eaglerare very. So I haven't opened
mind yet, So I don't thinkI opened that one yet. Yeah,
(27:38):
yeah, that Kentucky trip. Ithink in this year. We've been to
Florida four times the last So whenwhen when I decided against the home.
So my daughter and I had aOkay, Tally was having my daughter,
Tally was having a really hard timewith the move. Yes, I remember
(28:00):
that. So I told her,Okay, how about if you and me
go to Florida, check out thehouse, check out the neighborhood. If
we have time, we'll check outthe high school because she's entering freshmen.
Would that maybe make you feel better? And she's like, yeah, So
we had this trip planned just daddydaughter. I backed out of the home,
but I still kept the trip.So just me and Talia drove to
(28:22):
Florida. We stayed there three days, drove back, took her out of
school a couple of days, andit was just it was a wonderful trip,
just her and I. Yeah,no Nico, no Katie, you
know, just her and I andit was wonderful. Nice. I'll never
forget it because I don't get thatwith her anymore, right, you know.
And that's something else that's been fuckwith me this year. That kid's
(28:45):
getting older. She's fourteen now,yeah, and she's not my little girl
anymore. She's independent. She couldcare less about mom and dad, you
know what I mean. And thatused to be my little buddy. So
I've been having a really hard timewith that this year. Yeah. And
anyway, Yeah, so good thingsthat happened this year. Vacations, Yes,
And I would say over the timesince we've been face to face recording,
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I've probably been to Florida at leasttwelve times, and I think we
did New Orleans three times during thattime period, you know. So that's
the only time I'm really happy iswhen I'm traveling. Yeah. Yeah,
Funny enough that you mentioned traveling.A lot of people's bios and descriptions and
(29:30):
and and dating apps, a lotof them put travel a lot as the
things they love or they do.How am I? How are these people
affording all this travel? That's myquestion? Yeah? You just you know,
you just no, no. Iget why you do how you do
it, But I can't imagine everyonehas the same ability, you know.
I don't know. Maybe it's justsomething to put I think, so something
(29:52):
to start just so common. It'sjust a staple. I almost like it's
almost like a detriment like enough withthe traveling, Like, you know,
you ain't going nowhere. I ain'tgoing nowhere. Sit on the couch.
Yeah right, But if we're going, we're going back to Florida on the
twenty seventh, two days after Christmas, and we'll be there for years.
Yeah, be over there for NewYear's I'm taking bringing one of my daughter's
(30:15):
friends this time. Oh shit,take which one, Jackie? Remember?
Yeah, yeah, I think Ido. She's like our second daughter.
So and I'm taking them all theDiscovery Cove to swim with the dolphins.
What the hell is that? It'sit's a Sea World property in Orlando.
You swim with dolphins, you swimwith all sorts of fish and stingrays,
and the kids just go nuts.They love it, got it? So
we're gonna go there on the onthe thirtieth. So yeah, travel travels
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the one good thing about this year, all right, And that's all I'm
giving this year. Fuck this year. If I haven't said that already,
Yeah, no, I think Ithink we got that horrible even for the
cheap seats in the back. Ithink they heard it, all right,
Yeah, but uh, I meanI think we have some good topics planned
(30:59):
for some upcoming shows, but againno no promise on when they'll be released.
But we are going to come back. We're coming back. We're recording
a show tonight. And I don'tknow that. I mean, I just
wanted to jump on the mics andsay we're still here, We're still alive.
We hope you're still out there listening. There was one one guy,
So I told you our website gotbrought down twice. Our emails, all
(31:22):
our old emails are gone. Everythingis gone. Everything is But this this
really cool guy. I'm sorry Iforgot your name. You you live in
the You live in England, butyou also spent time in Jersey. We
were going back and forth on email. He sent this this wonderful, heartfelt
email, concern generally concerned for ourhealth and safety. And we're still alive.
(31:45):
And he said, you know,he's been listening to us so long
that we're like part of his life. You know, he felt he knew
us personally. Just a wonderful email. And that made me think how shitty
it was to just drop off withno X Nation. I mean, we
released every two weeks without fail,and then to just go dark. That
(32:06):
wasn't fair. Yeah, so that'swhy I wanted to record this. No,
and I get that, and that'swhy I was like immediately yes on
this, And I got myself aportable water This is a great setup.
That's a cute thing. Yeah,okay. Because I don't have laptops and
Jay doesn't believe in monitors, Ijust throw them away as a fact,
(32:27):
he buys them just to throw themaway. Well, we were moving,
so I got rid of so muchstuff monitor I held on and this is
funny. The week the week beforeyou asked me, I had just gotten
rid of it, just gotten ridof it. Weird. No, that's
fine. I've alsto have been doingsome cleaning. I have a lot of
weird shit, am I? BecauseI have to make space for this new
(32:49):
roomy. I had this giant room, well like a bedroom that I never
use. It's been holding the boxesthat I haven't unpacked, well because they're
not necessary. There are many eightbox's just movies like sitting there, for
example, a bunch of clothes.I don't use a lot of Lexi shit.
My mini fridge isn't like you know. I just gotta clean all that
shit out. And there's like alot more than that obviously, and I
(33:12):
had another person living there for aminute too, for a few months.
Was it a few months? Itwas a few months. Yeah, I
did tell you about it. Yeah, don't worry, we'll talk about it
lafter. But yeah, that happened. And it's like a ship show.
So I've been cleaning it out likea little bit little it's still like halfway
there, but like I'm getting there. Uh yeah, anything you want to
(33:34):
say as far as to what toexpect from us and in the in the
short future coming up, not Imean specifically on the next show, but
like I don't know, just somethingto end it regarding like we're not changing
our topics necessarily, right, we'renot topics same top three the triangle of
(33:54):
serial killer, conspiracy and supernatural.Yes, you forgot what it was.
He used to giving me the liesLike, let's do not know. I
got it from your show. Thisis your idea, this is the newsletter
you invited me to fucking twenty yearsago. This is a very yeah right,
this is a very weird thing.Yeah, Dave, Black, Joe,
(34:14):
Eerie still talk to them da Engineery. What did I say? I
just combined worry, Okay, becauseDave has a few names. He does
three. I can't keep up withthat guy. Yeah, so they're still
doing good. I know people Iget messages every once in a while asking
if they're going to come back ever, and I still have them listened on
(34:36):
the website as occasional co hosts iswhat I have. I'll try to get
him back this, you know,coming year. Yeah. When we when
we say occasional on the on theon the website, we mean occasionally in
the large fastness of time. Yeah, in the Sea of Tranquility, it
is occasionally. Yeah, you know, in the next year. I would
(34:58):
like to, uh, I'd liketo maybe do another pod cast trip somewhere.
Oh yeah, yeah, we lovethat. I know. I know
joe Erie is dying well squeeze thefunk out of as we do, as
we do with the ring It.He really wants to go to Gettysburg and
do Civil War ghost hunting and interviewsdown there, so I thought that might
be cool. Yeah, we haveour own Sherman's uh not Sherman's March was
(35:21):
the name of that documentary, Sherman'ssomething. I don't know, it doesn't
matter. Other people cinematics, nocinema watch stuff, but yeah, I
mean something like that would be great, same topics. Uh, I'm not
committing to anything. I just knowit's gonna roll out as it can as
we can, yeah, right,And I hope listeners are okay with that.
(35:44):
But that's the way it's got tobe for now, right exactly.
And I will also mhm figure outhow to do this again and go back
to researching. And I probably won'tdo what I did last time I did
like five books on one subject againbecause that burned me out. But I'll
do something like that. And Ialso want to get back on the ball
regarding like, you know, becauseI lost the touch. Like I feel
(36:07):
like I know less. You know, I don't know less, but I
feel like I do. I stillread all the time, but like not
for anything in depth, you know. I read for entertainment. I read
for I mean, even my owneducation so to speak, sure, but
nothing in depth. And I wantto dig into some stuff cool back like
we used to do. So yes, I am very much interested in coming
(36:29):
back to that, not just youawesome bitch. Yeah, I still torture
him with I don't know, Istill torment him. I don't know why
he's still tormentable. Look at thisall right? She thanks, You're welcome.
So I guess that's it. Yeah, that's it. Listeners. By
(36:50):
the way, I don't know.We're just gonna say Merry Christmas and Happy
New Year if we don't release byNew Year the next episode, but we
hope to keep you entertained through thenext year. Twenty twenty three. Yeah,
here's to twenty twenty three being abetter year. Let's give it a
little there, we go, checkthe you go.
Oscar. What the hell are youdoing here? What do you mean you
invited me? This is very strange. Listen, my car crashed? Can
I just get a cup of sugar? Is that what neighbors do? That
is what neighbors do? And thenyou fuck their wife? God? Oh,
I didn't wait? Are we recording? Can I go to the other
neighbors? It's too personal. Iknow you guys too much. We've done
(00:53):
been recording. We're recording right now. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas listeners.
I don't even know how many listenerswe have left anymore. Sweeping drink,
it's three and it's you and Iand then the third person that's yeah,
yeah, so Merry Christmas listeners.Whoever's left it's I think it's literally almost
it's got to be a year tothe day last since we last recorded,
(01:15):
because I think when we were recordingepisode one fifty i Isy Sagawa the Cannibal,
I think we were signing off forChristmas saying Merry Christmas because it was
like a demented Christmas episode. Yeahthat sounds like you, right, Yeah,
that sounds like you. And thenwe were supposed to come back in
either January or February and we nevercame back. That's right. Yeah,
(01:36):
that's usually our season or like ourtime off, right, Yes, yeah,
yeah, it's like a summer break, right, except it because you
take fifty vacations work as heavy andbefore and around that area, so you
like, you know, I rememberthat, yes, yeah, yeah,
during that time. Yeah, sowe decided we're going to take a break.
(01:56):
It's just the break lasted for ayear, and for that, I
mean, I'm heartfelt apologizing to ourlisteners. I'm not he can do it
for me live in my best life. No, okay, I have not,
but we'll get to that in aminute. But no, I don't.
Yeah, obviously I do apologize.I don't have the heartfelt us.
(02:20):
But what I do have is likeI feel like I feel like when a
young couple, especially young people,you know, they take a break.
They don't break up, right,but they take a break, and this
is the guy. It's like,the audience is the guy in this normal
situation normally, I mean, andwe're the girl each other, We're gonna
take a break, we want tobreak, but it ended up being a
(02:42):
breakup because the last of the wholeyear and now we're back after like,
you know, trying out different podcasts, not really sleeping around with different podcasts,
right, and then and then wecome back to the audience like,
okay, the break is over.Now did you miss us? You know
I missed you, honey. Youknow that's how it feels. It does
(03:05):
it does? It feels it feelsweird. It was crazy. Put we're
face to face. We're face god, we are fuck covid now right,
So March twenty twenty. March oftwenty twenty is the last time we were
face to face doing this, right, face to face it in the studio
in my home with the good micsand that pick up every that means we
were in quarantine? Were before?That was before, right before quarantine.
(03:29):
Yeah, that's when quarantines happened.Yeah, that's right. So in a
few months, it'd be three yearssince we did this. Face. Your
hairline looks amazing. Everything else isfalling apart, oh yeah yeah everything yeah
gray and tatters. I don't knowwhat's going on with your skin over there,
but yeah, yeah I'm falling apart. Yeah it's ok. Yeah,
So I just wanted to get onthe mics. I really missed it.
(03:51):
Fuck twenty twenty two is all Ihave to say. Fuck twenty twenty two.
It was a terrible year for me. A lot, a lot happened.
We were supposed to come back inJanuary or February. I can't remember
what we said which month, Butin January of this year I wound up
if something happened to me health wise, and I wound up in the hospital
(04:15):
physical therapy. A shitty couple months, something something, something, a big
setback at work. I'm still employed, same company, but there was a
huge setback. Well also, COVIDhit it. I mean we talked about
this too. Oh wait, no, that's twenty I'm still we're talking about
(04:38):
this year. This year feels likefive years and twenty twenty felt like it
happened twenty years ago. I'm tryingof like or seven years ago. Really,
and just sorry, I'm back ontop. Time. Is funny when
you start thinking over these past coupleof years, the COVID years, it's
very dogs funny. It's dog years. Yeah. So yeah, I wound
up in the hospital physical therapy,had a big setback at work that I'm
(04:59):
still dealing with. I I realizedthere were unresolved issues that I had after
my father's passing, everything kind ofculminated into I just couldn't. I think
depression is what it was. Yeah, I'm still trying to call my way
out of it. And you know, one of the one of the symptoms
(05:19):
of that is you stop enjoying thehobbies you once loved. You completely stop
doing those things. And that's yeah. He stopped recording, he stopped taking
me out on dates. It wasvery compressing. It was it was really
bad. And I just said,I'm still trying to claw my way out
of it. But I realized thatI have to get a hobby back.
I have to get back on themics, researching and doing something that I
(05:42):
love. So fuck twenty twenty two. Now, I'm not committing to a
schedule on the podcast right now.You know, we used to do every
two weeks religiously, and then wedid like once a month, and and
the and the and the eve andthe home stretch of our of our break
because it was getting heavy and obviously, which is a precursor to why we
(06:02):
took the year off. Really it'sreally what it is like the eye of
the store. Maybe I don't knowwhat and and now we know, you
know, and yeah, no schedule. It could be like Dan Carlin,
what's up? Dan Carlin is afamous podcast, or he does history,
he recurked whenever. Yeah, hejust does it whenever he can. That's
(06:25):
that's a stick. I like it. I think that's what we could do
for now. Yeah, we'll,we'll, we'll put out some stuff.
I started researching something, right,and I was like, well, no,
do not get excited. I startedbecause you know you what was was
two weeks ago, three weeks agoyou told me that you want to come
back. Yeah, about three weeksago, and I was like, oh
great, And then I texted youat some point after that like, oh,
(06:46):
I started researching something. And Ishould have said, like, I
had no idea how to do thisagain because so many false starts. I
got like one pair of dumb it'sdumb. There's nowhere near done. Anyway.
I'm rusty. Yeah, me too, me too. Well, your
skin looks rusty too. I don'thave anything wrong skin, so listeners know
(07:08):
I'm not like a leper over hereyou have. Yeah. And then our
our website was brought down twice.It was hacked and completely destroyed twice.
That sucked. So we had tofinally and it's up now Chicago ghost podcast
(07:28):
dot com. That was from goDaddy. I got hacked and brought down
twice from go Daddy really had tobe rebuilt twice. Yes, So now
we finally migrated all the data offof go daddy servers and put them onto
a private server from our our hostingserver, our web design company. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like in the Philippinesor whatever. You were serious.
(07:49):
I was just and so they're they'remoneery constantly and uh there yeah, so
we should be good there. Ourmerch shop is back up, you know,
that's all up and running. I'mvery happy about that. But just
stuff like that. Man, fucktwenty twenty two, it sucked. Yeah.
Now how about for you, Iknow for a time you took on
(08:11):
a new job before the government.That's right. Our schedule was another reason
our schedules changed. That's right.It did change because I only had I
had two days off only, whichwas I don't remember Tuesday, Wednesday or
something like that. It was somethingreally weird, something weird. Couldn't meet,
right, that was gonna be hardto meet because that schedule was like
two am or something till eleven am. Yeah, crazy, some weird hour,
(08:37):
Yeah, some weird time. Iquit it very soon after that,
Yeah, because so real quickly.The job was for I don't mind saying
it. They don't care either.It was for goodwill, specifically the goodwill
at a Navy base. They basicallyserved the troops. Yes, I was
serving the troops, very weird job, serving them food, serving them food,
sorry, serving them food, feedingthem three times a day. That
(08:58):
was all that was our job andeverything that entailed, which is preparing all
that cleaning and shared managing. Iwas one of the managers. And they're
wrong. The job itself, itwas, it's technically manageable. Do they
manage it? Well, no,it's a crazy zoo down there, And
well I didn't know. I don't. This is what I'm fun with.
(09:20):
No government, that's my first.This is not a real government job because
I'm working for a nonprofit, butlike it is because I'm working on their
soil, so I do have tofollow their rules and shit. So that's
probably why you know, it wasso weird there for me. But I
was like, like, I cantough this off for like a year.
(09:41):
Nope, six weeks is all Ilasted before I was like yeah, life
is too short for this. Itpaid more than I was for sure a
good amount more, but it wasn'tworth it, Like I was gonna my
soul was gonna die like the restof them. A lot of people were
very depressed on there, who werelike eyes glazed over with you know,
or like hired to the bone kindof thing, or like every day is
(10:03):
like a new upheaval that they bringon something, all this unnecessary baggage,
unnecessary baggage. I started immediately andlike, no, I don't want to
deal with this. I don't needmy life to be a sitcom that isn't
funny. So I quit and Iwent I went back to Starbucks. There
you go. Yeah, and ittook me back into Harpy. They had
not replaced me, and they werewere raised too, right. Yeah,
(10:24):
yeah, Yeah, it's it's coolthat you you realize that, Hey,
the money isn't worth losing a partof myself. Yes, I've always done
that. This is why I've alwayslived, you know, lived kind of
minimally because I don't I'd rather havea peace of mind than a lot of
money. Yeah, I've never beenthat kind of person. And that's really
kind of where I'm at now too, like, is this is this money
(10:45):
worth my health? Because mental healthis just as important as your physical health.
Mental health and physical health. Yeahfor Trusty, as it's killing me,
that's it is. So I understandwhat you're saying and brab with you
for pulling the trigger on that.You know. Yeah, well it's well
like pulling the trigger and take thetrigger at the bullet back because the first
big change was taking this job,and then the big change after that is
(11:07):
going back. You know. That'sfunny, but it's good. They took
you back and you got a raise. Yeah, and then I remember,
no one wants to close, noone wants to whoever what happens? Then?
I remember you were also really sicktoo. It wasn't COVID. Do
you remember. I do remember thatyou were down from I don't remember what.
I'm trying to remember what it was. It's been til long now.
(11:28):
Yeah, but it wasn't COVID becausethat's what we thought at first. Yeah,
I still haven't really gone COVID.You didn't, I did. I
wound up getting it. Yeah,I remember that. But you have kids
though, it's like basically gonna happen. It's like a matter of time,
not if, but when nothing wouldNico, my son hasn't gotten it.
We all of us, me,my wife and daughter have got it.
But yeah, I remember you weresuper sick. So it's just another thing
that added to you know, extendingthe recording and just one thing after another,
(11:54):
one thing after another. And didfeel that way. But this year,
you know, that's scene in Seinfeld. Sorry for younger people out there,
let's face it, you're not theyounger the is this the episode side
of the Summer of George. Summerof George? I don't remember that one.
Well, well, he decides thisyear I'm gonna make a change.
(12:15):
This is gonna be the summer ofme. I'm going to be a successful
something in something. I kind ofdid that not not a summer of Oscar,
but it was more like I calledI didn't call it anything. What
I what I did is that Iwent out online, mainly online but also
in physical form, going out andaccept trying to like make new friends.
(12:37):
That's what I try to do thisyear, make new friend. I accepted
all applications whatever, no matter howweird you were or what, like the
polar opposite of what I don't careif you're accept I'm accepting kind of thing.
And so how did that turn out? So weird ups and down ups
(12:58):
and downs, some of them inthe form of like through a dating app,
I met a few people that wereinterested only in making friends, and
I was fine with that, andso I did hang out with a few
people, some of which, likeI found I don't wanna say uninteresting.
They're not uninteresting, but I foundthem to be like, oh, you
know, maybe I'm not really feelingit out as even friends much less something
(13:20):
more amorous. And others they didthe same to me, They're like,
maybe they're not feeling it right.So a lot of that, a lot
of like almost potential friends, butno follow ups, no real hangouts after
you know, maybe one more timea bar here or a drink there,
or a game top whatever here.But overall, I think I've made like
(13:43):
three four new friends that I havebeen pretty steady since nice. So yeah,
that's way more. That's four hundredpercent so o kadness that I have
other friends with. But yeah,that's been. That was that was a
lot of fun. And I'm meetingsomeone new next week possibly tomorrow as well.
Yeah, somewhere loading been loading itup. Yeah, and I guess
(14:03):
a lot of people are pretty lonelyin the holidays a lot. Yeah,
it's been catching a lot of peoplebeing like unfortunately for them, obviously left
out from their families, you know, from either from this year as a
new thing or overall in their life. And I'm like, yeah, let's
do something, you know, kindof you're brightening other people's lives, trying
(14:24):
tofully Yeah, with a dark light. That's the problem. That's my That's
well, there is such a thing. I was listening to the news the
other day. There's I can't rememberthe name they gave it, but it's
a it's a depression. It's it'sa thing that settles on some people around
Christmas time when Christmas does not turnout to be picture perfect like the movies.
(14:46):
So it's like postpartum depression, butfor holidays. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like that actual thing. Notto say that that's the same expectation,
by the way, I'm just sayingwhen when the Christmas doesn't come out the
way they do in the movies,it's it's a thing, well that will
never happen. At a name forit, it's really crazy. Yeah,
we have a name for a lotof not dumb things, but a lot
of things we wouldn't expect. Yeah, and that could be, that makes
(15:07):
sense. I didn't know that.Yeah, it's crazy. Lexi Raven will
not be this is the Ketchup show, right, this is this, This
is the Ketchup Show. Lexi Ravenwon't be joining us on the show any
longer. We didn't mention that onthe show because we were doing we're still
doing podcasts. I don't believe wedid. I think I know. I
said I didn't want to at first, but I never did. I really
don't think so. I think wekept it hush hush, Okay, So
(15:30):
uh, six months before we tooka break from y'all around six months,
I like said, I broke up. We're not taking a break right,
No, no, broke yeah,yeah, yeah, and it's fine.
It was surprisingly mutual. Again notto reference semn felt all day, but
it wasn't like that breakup where theyboth wanted it they handshake it like all
(15:50):
right, bye bye. It wasn'tlike that, but it was like understandably
from both our ends here. Soso yeah, so it was amicable,
good good. Yeah, and sheis now with child. Well, no,
she has a child. Which childthat means that, Oh yeah,
I guess that would. She hasa kid, but she's still with it.
(16:14):
Thank you you opened that up forme. She has a kid now
as a kid Ariel, Ariel,it's beautiful. I'm only saying that because
it's a R I E L LE. But I think she just says
Ariel. But the way it's spellis like Ariel. Okay, alright,
like loreal. I don't know.Yeah, I've seen a picture beautiful,
beautiful. Oh you've seen yeah,Facebook, right, Katie showed me.
I'm not on Facebook anymore. Idon't. I don't do anything on Facebook,
(16:37):
but Katie showed me. Yeah.Also I don't do with Facebook because
a snapchat that I know also Twitternowadays. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna
pay for that blue check just todo it. I always wanted that.
Those funny things though, with theblue checks, it's so good. Yeah,
so so LEXI won't be here.She has a child, beautiful Ariel.
(16:57):
Yeah, we'll miss her on theshow. She was always a fun
addition, it should be said,though not my kid. Oh good.
We didn't say that, No,we did make it sound like airy.
I don't know how to spell itlike, no, no, no,
it's not my kids. Yeah,that's fucked up. No, that's fucked
up. But hopefully nobody quits quitin the moments between me saying me making
(17:18):
you assume that that's right, right, exactly hopefully. Yeah, you didn't
jump the gun on leaving the showforever again after our break? No,
no, no, not my kid. Yeah, it's a fun story,
though. If you get me offfor a few drinks, I'll tell you
the whole story. But that's theonly requirement you need though. Drinks.
Yeah, boom up, put it, Yeah, exactly, loom up.
Speaking of drinks, you're not drinkingyour eh, Taylor over there are well,
(17:41):
I don't have to make too muchsounds. I feel like this thing
is hearing my stomach growling. It'sgreat. I had to unplug the sun
pump over here. Mm hmm.Yeah, so that that happened again.
Fuck twenty twenty two. Yeah.Also, the dating world awful. It's
pretty dismal, bearing wasteland of nonsense. Really, did you know that I
did not? Yeah, it's prettybad. However it was in your day.
(18:03):
There's been like three different waves ofdating that you missed out on.
Thankfully, thank God. And Idon't know how I miss I just said
three waves at the top of myhead. But let's just say three or
four, right, because you're thatold. I feel it. Yeah,
you feel yeah, yeah, thegray everywhere, he's fine, he's why
did I come back to this?I don't know. I mean, you
(18:26):
know me, so the guy changed. I went bitter, bitterer, more
bitter, the bitters, I know. That's what I'm just thinking. I
was saying. Anyway, let's saythree waves of dating. Somehow in the
first two ways of dating from mylateeens, thirty twenties to the early thirties
or whatever, it's been somehow aball enough, like enough where I get
(18:48):
to play the field. I understandwhat's going on roughly human content seems something
attainable. And then this last waveit's insane. I don't understand anything that's
going on me. They don't either, and I think we're all pretending we
do, but no one we understands. It is a mindfield of nonsense.
So what is it? This isvery interesting. I get ghosted so much,
Jay, which is a common thing, very common, so common,
(19:11):
right that uh, it's like Iexpect it. I expected it for everyone
all the time, and it's likeI feel like I think of a good
I feel like Casper. I wasgonna make a Pokemon reference, but you
don't know Pokemon Caspar. Caspar isthe Hispanic Ghostspar. Yeah, okay,
I go with that. Is thereCaspital. I love it, I think
(19:33):
so, I actually don't know.Don't quote me on that. I think
it's called caspital. It is nowbetter and not just that, but weird
things that I feel, and it'svery politically heavy and charged out there,
very very very I dated both oppositeends of the spectrum. It's been fun.
(19:56):
I won't tell you that. I'mnot gonna I'll tell you, but
like I'm not gonna, h it'sbeen a very interesting ride seeing what also
turns them off is funny to meanto like, Yah, it's fun.
It's it's it's fun bad but fun. Like I'm I'm tolerantly making fun of
it. But yeah, but stilllike I'm you know, still meeting new
people and whatever. And one ofthose people has become like a friend.
(20:19):
So that's been interesting. Nice.Oh yeah, So, like I said,
accepting all friends invites no problem.Uh, listeners, dating sucks so
stay away from my Jesus contact atChicago ghost podcast dot com. Be Oscar's
friend. Yeah, exactly, he'llbe your friend. We'll watch movies.
Also another update, getting a roommatesoon. You're getting a roommate part of
(20:42):
the one on these new friends noship. Yeah, know them well enough
to it's a her and yes,know them well enough? Yes, okay,
very well enough. Oh like that? Oh no, I didn't mean
that. Oh okay, kind ofsounds like you're right, it did.
No, that's that's a that's somethingelse, right, that's not a roommate
(21:03):
either way. I'm getting a roommateto like lower the living of my cost
cost of living, That's what I'mmeant to say, stop drinking, yes,
and uh, just to make iteasier. And also she needs us
change desperately, so she wants toget out of a bad situation. And
I'm not saying I'm the best intown, but I'm better than and what
she needs as far as cost.And we're a mat and yeah, it's
(21:23):
working out and that's gonna happen inthe next few months less even Yeah,
nice, very soon changes. Yes, I got plants, plants, I
got plants in my house. That'stwo two plants. They're still alive,
speaking of I had three one ofthem die though. You go, how
are the sugar glighters? They're amazing, so they cute. Thanks, thanks
(21:47):
for that, my mom. Stillno, no, no, no,
no, no, it's fine.The only time I get asked by people
is when they they always say like, oh, how are the sugar laris?
Are they still alive? That's usuallyalways what I get when people ask
that you did Oh didn't you?I said, do you still have them?
Oh? Did you say maybe?Maybe? I like, what do
(22:07):
you? What do you call it? You were just anticipating me? No,
no, no, there's a badword for it. There's a I
projected on you. Stop projecting onme. I'm trying not to, but
it was so easy. Clearly Ipicture you as my mom because my mom
asked me that that's a whole Well, we've gotta talk about that one.
Well. The gray hair is matching. It's just in my beard. Yeah.
Could you heard me doing that?He's like, Cando, Yeah,
(22:30):
I can't fuck these mic Like,I'm afraid to move my feet on the
carpet. I'm afraid I've already beenmaking noise. I said, don't stop
yourself. Just don't make any extraordinarynoises, like don't farty or don't hold
any either, because we'll hear iton the inside. Yeah, yeah,
okay, okay. I almost boughta house in Florida. That's right.
(22:52):
I was gonna mention that and again, fuck twenty twenty two because that all
fell apart. Yeah, what wasthe name of the hurricane? I had
the house? I had that down. We were moving to Florida. We
were supposed to move October twenty eighth. That's right, we were supposed to
move. I was gonna hate yourguts when you move because it was kind
of sunning for me because I heardabout it like a month before. You
did it, right, because youwere looking at houses. I think,
yeah, I'm like that soon.I know, stay here, what are
you did? I had so manymixed emotions, but you know, that's
(23:15):
our ultimate goal is to get downthere, and you know, I want
my mom to ekamble to take mymom with us, and I want her
to be down there. But HurricaneIan came again. I heard, you
know, just the year is terrible. Hurricane Ian came and screwed everything.
As we were closing on the houseis when Ian as when we were supposed
to close on the house, iswhen Ian made landfall. So everything got
(23:38):
screwed up with the clothes, withtrying to secure insurance. And this was
it was an expensive home. Itwas, it was an expensive home.
Can't have it without insurance. SoIan screwed all that up. I just
barely got all my money back fromyou know, my down payment. Thank
god I got it back. Andthat's another thing that happened. Just that
(23:59):
screwed everything up, you know,or screwed with me. Yeah. Yeah,
it's just not a good year,listeners, just not a good year.
Now you don't have to get backinto you don't have to try to
come up with one. But isthere anything that went well this year?
Yeah? Traveling, traveling. Theonly time I'm truly happy is when I'm
traveling with my family. No,he's only happy, guys, when he's
(24:19):
in an airport waiting for that airplaythat listeners know that that that has been
with us since the beginning. Hehates playing. So I had to go
to Jersey because I think everyone knowsthat I work from home. Yeah,
I'm a remote worker now, andI had to go to New Jersey in
April for a sales meeting. That'sthe beginning of our fiscal year is April
(24:41):
April one. And it was cool. I won a trip. I got
some diamonds that added to my myring that I secured for being great at
sales. And it was a greatmeeting. But I fucking drove the Jersey.
I drove the New Jersey and everyonemade fun of me. But you
know what, people are getting delayedon the way home, can't get into
the air, you know, justall these problems. But even with those
(25:02):
delays, the probably still got therehome on time. They did. But
I was less stressful and I'm justcruising man, having a good time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Soit just I just needed to get back
on the mics is basically. Yeah. I also had a trip too.
I went to Kentucky, that's right, because you brought me back like eight
bottles of whiskey. Yeah, youfucking fucking ordered things, but you were
(25:26):
like whisky fucking this is my Amazonoscars, my Amazon today, I think
I have I think I have oversixty something bottles of whiskey in this house.
But yeah, you went to Kentucky, you did the bourbon trail,
A lot of bourbons. Yeah,yeah, a lot of distilleries, primarily
Buffalo Trace. We went to likethree times because they changed their main shit
every day, which we didn't knowuntil it got there. And you can
(25:48):
only buy one bottle per customer orper person. So yeah, we went
back. Yeah, so we tookadvantage of there. We went to the
Looks Looks I want to say distillery. We went to the US I don't
sore. No, it's not luxwith us, not right, it's something
like that. I don't know.We went to a bunch of them,
including the big some of the bigones. I know, you brought me
quite a few bottles of will It, Yeah, brought me a bottle of
(26:08):
each Taylor. There was some Dickle. I think you got me sounds right,
George Dickle. So you had togo to those stilleries. We went
to the I think you got meBuffalo Trace too. Yeah, you got
my bottle Buffalo Trace probably Eagle Rare, Yes, a ten year bottle Eagle
(26:29):
Rare. Fucking sweet. I know. That's when we came back. We
went back for it. So whenwe went back, so they each Taylor.
So when we went to the thefirst day to the Buffalo Trace.
They had the h Taylor that day, and obviously I bought one, only
one, of course, And Iwas like because I had taste tests of
it before right in the in thetour, and I was like, this
is pretty good. Should I giveit to Should it be nice and give
(26:52):
this one to J? And thenlike yeah, okay. And then the
next day I was like okay.So and then we found out through online
probably someone on the chat or somethingsaid that they had the Eagle rare on
the next day, Like, oh, that's what I want, and that
fuckers for me. I ain't gamebecause I don't get one right right,
And I was like, and then, but we had other friends that didn't
drink bourbon, and they were like, they never came with us the first
(27:15):
time. They just they stayed atthe Airbnb, and but we convinced them
to go with us, so wecan use their person to buy another bottle
for us. So I got someoneto pair up with me, and that's
how I got you the second thesecond A we're got it. So yeah,
it's an age stated ten year Eaglerare very. So I haven't opened
mind yet, So I don't thinkI opened that one yet. Yeah,
(27:38):
yeah, that Kentucky trip. Ithink in this year. We've been to
Florida four times the last So whenwhen when I decided against the home.
So my daughter and I had aOkay, Tally was having my daughter,
Tally was having a really hard timewith the move. Yes, I remember
(28:00):
that. So I told her,Okay, how about if you and me
go to Florida, check out thehouse, check out the neighborhood. If
we have time, we'll check outthe high school because she's entering freshmen.
Would that maybe make you feel better? And she's like, yeah, So
we had this trip planned just daddydaughter. I backed out of the home,
but I still kept the trip.So just me and Talia drove to
(28:22):
Florida. We stayed there three days, drove back, took her out of
school a couple of days, andit was just it was a wonderful trip,
just her and I. Yeah,no Nico, no Katie, you
know, just her and I andit was wonderful. Nice. I'll never
forget it because I don't get thatwith her anymore, right, you know.
And that's something else that's been fuckwith me this year. That kid's
(28:45):
getting older. She's fourteen now,yeah, and she's not my little girl
anymore. She's independent. She couldcare less about mom and dad, you
know what I mean. And thatused to be my little buddy. So
I've been having a really hard timewith that this year. Yeah. And
anyway, Yeah, so good thingsthat happened this year. Vacations, Yes,
And I would say over the timesince we've been face to face recording,
(29:07):
I've probably been to Florida at leasttwelve times, and I think we
did New Orleans three times during thattime period, you know. So that's
the only time I'm really happy iswhen I'm traveling. Yeah. Yeah,
Funny enough that you mentioned traveling.A lot of people's bios and descriptions and
(29:30):
and and dating apps, a lotof them put travel a lot as the
things they love or they do.How am I? How are these people
affording all this travel? That's myquestion? Yeah? You just you know,
you just no, no. Iget why you do how you do
it, But I can't imagine everyonehas the same ability, you know.
I don't know. Maybe it's justsomething to put I think, so something
(29:52):
to start just so common. It'sjust a staple. I almost like it's
almost like a detriment like enough withthe traveling, Like, you know,
you ain't going nowhere. I ain'tgoing nowhere. Sit on the couch.
Yeah right, But if we're going, we're going back to Florida on the
twenty seventh, two days after Christmas, and we'll be there for years.
Yeah, be over there for NewYear's I'm taking bringing one of my daughter's
(30:15):
friends this time. Oh shit,take which one, Jackie? Remember?
Yeah, yeah, I think Ido. She's like our second daughter.
So and I'm taking them all theDiscovery Cove to swim with the dolphins.
What the hell is that? It'sit's a Sea World property in Orlando.
You swim with dolphins, you swimwith all sorts of fish and stingrays,
and the kids just go nuts.They love it, got it? So
we're gonna go there on the onthe thirtieth. So yeah, travel travels
(30:38):
the one good thing about this year, all right, And that's all I'm
giving this year. Fuck this year. If I haven't said that already,
Yeah, no, I think Ithink we got that horrible even for the
cheap seats in the back. Ithink they heard it, all right,
Yeah, but uh, I meanI think we have some good topics planned
(30:59):
for some upcoming shows, but againno no promise on when they'll be released.
But we are going to come back. We're coming back. We're recording
a show tonight. And I don'tknow that. I mean, I just
wanted to jump on the mics andsay we're still here, We're still alive.
We hope you're still out there listening. There was one one guy,
So I told you our website gotbrought down twice. Our emails, all
(31:22):
our old emails are gone. Everythingis gone. Everything is But this this
really cool guy. I'm sorry Iforgot your name. You you live in
the You live in England, butyou also spent time in Jersey. We
were going back and forth on email. He sent this this wonderful, heartfelt
email, concern generally concerned for ourhealth and safety. And we're still alive.
(31:45):
And he said, you know,he's been listening to us so long
that we're like part of his life. You know, he felt he knew
us personally. Just a wonderful email. And that made me think how shitty
it was to just drop off withno X Nation. I mean, we
released every two weeks without fail,and then to just go dark. That
(32:06):
wasn't fair. Yeah, so that'swhy I wanted to record this. No,
and I get that, and that'swhy I was like immediately yes on
this, And I got myself aportable water This is a great setup.
That's a cute thing. Yeah,okay. Because I don't have laptops and
Jay doesn't believe in monitors, Ijust throw them away as a fact,
(32:27):
he buys them just to throw themaway. Well, we were moving,
so I got rid of so muchstuff monitor I held on and this is
funny. The week the week beforeyou asked me, I had just gotten
rid of it, just gotten ridof it. Weird. No, that's
fine. I've alsto have been doingsome cleaning. I have a lot of
weird shit, am I? BecauseI have to make space for this new
(32:49):
roomy. I had this giant room, well like a bedroom that I never
use. It's been holding the boxesthat I haven't unpacked, well because they're
not necessary. There are many eightbox's just movies like sitting there, for
example, a bunch of clothes.I don't use a lot of Lexi shit.
My mini fridge isn't like you know. I just gotta clean all that
shit out. And there's like alot more than that obviously, and I
(33:12):
had another person living there for aminute too, for a few months.
Was it a few months? Itwas a few months. Yeah, I
did tell you about it. Yeah, don't worry, we'll talk about it
lafter. But yeah, that happened. And it's like a ship show.
So I've been cleaning it out likea little bit little it's still like halfway
there, but like I'm getting there. Uh yeah, anything you want to
(33:34):
say as far as to what toexpect from us and in the in the
short future coming up, not Imean specifically on the next show, but
like I don't know, just somethingto end it regarding like we're not changing
our topics necessarily, right, we'renot topics same top three the triangle of
(33:54):
serial killer, conspiracy and supernatural.Yes, you forgot what it was.
He used to giving me the liesLike, let's do not know. I
got it from your show. Thisis your idea, this is the newsletter
you invited me to fucking twenty yearsago. This is a very yeah right,
this is a very weird thing.Yeah, Dave, Black, Joe,
(34:14):
Eerie still talk to them da Engineery. What did I say? I
just combined worry, Okay, becauseDave has a few names. He does
three. I can't keep up withthat guy. Yeah, so they're still
doing good. I know people Iget messages every once in a while asking
if they're going to come back ever, and I still have them listened on
(34:36):
the website as occasional co hosts iswhat I have. I'll try to get
him back this, you know,coming year. Yeah. When we when
we say occasional on the on theon the website, we mean occasionally in
the large fastness of time. Yeah, in the Sea of Tranquility, it
is occasionally. Yeah, you know, in the next year. I would
(34:58):
like to, uh, I'd liketo maybe do another pod cast trip somewhere.
Oh yeah, yeah, we lovethat. I know. I know
joe Erie is dying well squeeze thefunk out of as we do, as
we do with the ring It.He really wants to go to Gettysburg and
do Civil War ghost hunting and interviewsdown there, so I thought that might
be cool. Yeah, we haveour own Sherman's uh not Sherman's March was
(35:21):
the name of that documentary, Sherman'ssomething. I don't know, it doesn't
matter. Other people cinematics, nocinema watch stuff, but yeah, I
mean something like that would be great, same topics. Uh, I'm not
committing to anything. I just knowit's gonna roll out as it can as
we can, yeah, right,And I hope listeners are okay with that.
(35:44):
But that's the way it's got tobe for now, right exactly.
And I will also mhm figure outhow to do this again and go back
to researching. And I probably won'tdo what I did last time I did
like five books on one subject againbecause that burned me out. But I'll
do something like that. And Ialso want to get back on the ball
regarding like, you know, becauseI lost the touch. Like I feel
(36:07):
like I know less. You know, I don't know less, but I
feel like I do. I stillread all the time, but like not
for anything in depth, you know. I read for entertainment. I read
for I mean, even my owneducation so to speak, sure, but
nothing in depth. And I wantto dig into some stuff cool back like
we used to do. So yes, I am very much interested in coming
(36:29):
back to that, not just youawesome bitch. Yeah, I still torture
him with I don't know, Istill torment him. I don't know why
he's still tormentable. Look at thisall right? She thanks, You're welcome.
So I guess that's it. Yeah, that's it. Listeners. By
(36:50):
the way, I don't know.We're just gonna say Merry Christmas and Happy
New Year if we don't release byNew Year the next episode, but we
hope to keep you entertained through thenext year. Twenty twenty three. Yeah,
here's to twenty twenty three being abetter year. Let's give it a
little there, we go, checkthe you go.
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