Ask Me Anything: Live Oct 2024

It is about time for another Jive Talk AMA! STREAMED LIVE on YouTube and X on 11th October 2024


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh, you better believe it's beginning. You better believe it's beginning.
The Jive talk a m A, which isn't supposed to
be only once a year but ends up being just once. Yeah,
because I keep forgetting to do it, and yeah it's
it's live now. I should be live on X as well.
I'll just double check that we are all systems go

(00:41):
on that platform too, before we get going. We're reading
the super chats and whatnot. Yes, yes, yes, everything's going.
So the custom with the give talk AMA is that
I first us to read out all the ones that

(01:02):
the patrons send on the patroon platforms that I operate
on Patreon dot com and subscribe Star dot com, and
then I also read out all superchats, and if I
run out of superchats, then I move on to reading
whatever people are saying in the comments. But I'll start
off before I do patrons with one early superchat that
came in from Relaxing two four seven, who asks a

(01:23):
rather technical question with a five pound donation. Thank you
for that. What is the difference between outgroup F three
statistics and FSD and which is better for comparing ancient
and modern populations? I don't know which is better. They're
both for measuring the relations the genetic relationship between populations

(01:44):
and individuals. I have here some brief description of outgroup
F three statistics. Our F three statistics are used for
two purposes. As a test whether a target population is
admixed between two source populations. You want to find out

(02:05):
the two sources form you know, if A and B
form C. And secondly to measure shared drift between two
test populations amb from C if you know they have
a common ancestor, you want to see how much they've diverged.
So that's what that's for, Whereas FST is the fixation

(02:26):
index is a metrix used in population genetics to measure
the differentiation of populations due to genetics. It's a proportion
of the total genetic variance in a subpopulation relative to
the total genetic variants. So I guess that fs T
would be less useful if you're trying to identify the

(02:47):
specific relation of a population to another cousin population and
how much is diverged from it, and then algrobear three
might be better. But if you're just wanting to find
it overall genetic similarity, than FST seems to be the
go to choice, but I'm only reading those off of

(03:08):
results I found on Google. I'm not really sure which
is the better option, but generally I see when I'm
trying to figure out stuff like this myself, I look
at a combination of f ST and PCA results to
sort of figure out how related different populations are to
each other. Oh, another supertats come in this. I'm from

(03:28):
bar Fur fifty Danish krona. Thank you. Always enjoy listening
to these amas while smoking my pipe. Cheers. I can
imagine this Danish hobbit sitting somewhere in his flat country
smoking a pipe. Very good, thank you, barthor nice background

(03:49):
someone This is from Sky. I got it in Sky.
I went to Sky in my own recent video, the
last the final episode of Hyperborean Odyssey, and when I
traveled across the Orkneys and the Hebrides, and I explained
the ancient and medieval history of those islands, the Gales,
the Vikings, the Neolithic people and such. And this was
for sale there a company called sky Batiques. And you

(04:12):
think it's a very Gaelic thing, but actually the woman
who was selling it with Sri Lankan and she has
it done. It made in Sri Lanka. She was by
her relative there and the image comes from the Lindasfarg Gospels,
which is Anglo Saxon. And of course all those designs
that the Gaels started to use in Gaelic manuscripts like

(04:33):
I in the Hebrides or whatever, or mostly associated with
Iona and Ireland. All of this style of art comes
from the Anglo Saxons. It's a Germanic style of art.
It is not a Celtic not work, although it is
considered such. It became Celtic because the Irish monks who
converted the Northumbrians to Christianity adopted the art of the
Northumbrians and brought it back to Ireland and modified it

(04:55):
to become a new form of art, insular Celtic notwork.
And you could say that the this is from aluminated MANUGECPT.
You could say that this was itself somehow part of
the insular Celtic insular style. That would make more sense
because it's a kind of not work that's shared between
Anglo Saxons and Irish people. And it's different from the

(05:17):
Anglo Saxon pagan network because it's modified in a Christian
context for manuscripts rather than from the older not work
was on other context like wooden carvings, leather carvings and
metal work, which where you found it originally. Anyway, let's
get on with the Patreon questions. Jeff Simpson Scott asks

(05:39):
Hi toon two things who I may. Firstly, what are
your thoughts on the paper in nature proposing an Orcadian
based in origin for the Stonehenge, Alterstone, the Heelstone in
terms of what this tells us about Neolithic culture? Secondly,
what are your thoughts on the paper evidence of large
vessels and vessels in stone as Scandinavia. I think you've

(06:01):
covered these topics on YouTube pap before the papers came out. Cheers. Actually,
I don't know. I have not read the second vessel,
so I won't ask. I won't answer that one. The
first paper is very interesting and at first I was like,
oh wow, it comes from Orkney, because I was just
got back from Orkney when it came out, and I've
been researching already that this summer like the connections between

(06:23):
Wessex and Orkney, because in twenty seventeen a paper came
out showing that there was very likely that the sacrificial
animals found at Stonehenge had been brought from various parts
of the country, and some of the pigs and cows
possibly came from did come either from Scotland or somewhere,
maybe as far north as Orkney. And that was proposed
a long while ago. And of course I said in

(06:44):
the latest film, how the grooved ware pottery from Orkney was,
you know, still dominant eight hundred years after in around Stonehenge,
eight hundred years after it was invented in Orkney. And
of course the actual Henge monument itself may originate. The
true hen style of among the circular ditching may originate
in Orkney as well with the stones of Sternness, in

(07:07):
which case even Stonehengs itself has some debt to Orkney.
But some people are saying it's not from Orkney. I'm
not a geologist, and I don't understand the mineral analysis
arguments that are happening. It's not actually conclusive, but it's
certain that that stone, that Helstone, is not the same
sort that that the other stones have come from. This

(07:28):
some from Wales. The inner stones there's an older stone
circle comes from Wales. The outer stuff is a local
Marboroughstone and that was also modified by the Beaker folk.
But the original stone circles a relocated Welsh circle by
the megalith folk. But this is neither This is from
what it's called in theological terms Laurentia, which is pretty

(07:50):
much just Scotland. So it's definitely from somewhere up north
in Scotland. And the Neolithic center of Scotland is Orkney basically,
so it's certainly not it's still on the cards that
Orkney is the origin of that a stone and it's
absolutely certain. I think that Orkney has far reaching cultural contacts,

(08:11):
not only to stone Hens, but far beyond. It was
a really important center. And you want to learn more
about Neolithic Orkney, then please see the new video in
which I visit a five thousand year old Neolithic village,
perfectly preserved because it was buried in the sand and
it was made of stone, so it hasn't rotted away.
So it's absolutely incredible to see something other than just
a stone circle, put an actual collection of houses, a

(08:32):
whole village, and get an idea of the people who
made these stone circles, other than you know, the very
vague clues we get from the actual these megalithic monuments.
We get something completely different at scarab Bray, so please
go and check that out. Josh Brokinsky is next. He says,
he asks, do you know of any material that documents

(08:55):
or theorizes the voyage of Beaker people to the British arles.
I'm probably seeing critical information, but it is curious to
me how people strongly associated with central continental Europe ended
up pushing onwards towards the sea, then developing the technology
to at least float across the channel a presumably unknown
distance to a foreign land. Could Dogland have been present
during that migration, Josh, there was no written records anywhere

(09:17):
in Europe at that time, anywhere, not even in Greece.
There was no literate people at that time. It was
not a very long there was no dog Land. Dog
Land was long gone by by twenty five hundred BC
to four hundred BC when this occurred. But the distance
across the Calais was not as big as it is today.
And even today you can swim across, people can You

(09:37):
can swim across without a boat, So it's not some
great sea voyage actually, and the Biager folk perfectly capable
of we know they had you know, dugout canoes. I
mean people were making much longer journeys in that long,
long time before, thousands of years before in fact. But yes,
and also they weren't at the time they made that crossing,
they weren't associated with Central Europe. The Beaker folk originate

(09:58):
in northwestern Europe in whole, in Holland basically, and they
spread down the Rhine into Central Europe. And they also
spread across the Dover, you know, across the Dover Straits
and into Britain and Britain the British Arts. So at
that time they were really they originally where they originated
from was no more Central Europe than it was Britain.

(10:19):
And in fact, it's not a huge distance to cross
from from north you know, northwestern Europe to England, England's
south east England is quite a short distance, so not
quite a huge as as you seem to think it is.
That's all on Patreon, I believe, Oh no, there's lots more.
Jackson Callahan, I love your work and cannot overstate the

(10:41):
impact you've had on this community. What do you think
has had the greatest impact on your beliefs or view
of the world. I suppose what's had the greatest impact
is my natural temperament. I don't. I am the way
and always have been since a child. I'm not. I'm
always proud of to my people, proud of where I

(11:04):
come from, and I also have a sort of mystical inclination.
I always have perceived something like supernatural in the world,
and so those things drive me towards certain behaviors and
conclusions I suppose, But of course that's a simplification, and
probably don't rely too much on that characterization because it

(11:28):
would probably be a mischaracterization. Canaan also asks why do
you think or do you think of this theory that
some old Celtic lineages from the Bronze Age went up
into Denmark. Don't know about that. I mean, you're talking
about the Bronze Age Beaker folk, because those aren't Celts.
I'm sure it's possible that some people say that how
some of them got to Britain and the Anglo Saxon invasions.

(11:49):
I don't know about that, but I don't know what
you're talking about Bronze Age lineages. Based on your experiences
and knowledge, what do you think the future of the
this is Lucas Neil. What do you think of the
pagan community in the West potential looks like. Do you
think it may rise into a massive new cultural movement
or remain as more niche an underground community in the

(12:10):
immediate future. It is not going to be a political
force of any kind. That doesn't mean it doesn't have
any significance. Sometimes minority groups can have a greater influence
and influence disproportionate to their numbers within a population, but
that's depending on how much power and they hold, and

(12:32):
how much how willing they are to achieve power, and
how capable they are of achieving power. At the moment,
I don't see that is something likely. I think. I've
never said advocated paganism as a political strategy. It's not
why I'm pagan. It's not a political strategy. It is
my religion because I believe in it, and that's it.

(12:54):
But yes, I mean, whatever weird has been woven will
be and I'm sure and that everything that's happening has
been decided long ago, and therefore it doesn't really matter
so much what the potential is. I'll just you just
continue to do what's right. Do you have to just
behave in a way that is as a pagan, you

(13:17):
have to just behave in a way that is upright
and correct, regardless of the outcome. So yes, the the
future of paganism has absolutely no bearing on my opinion
of paganism, absolutely none at all, because that wouldn't be
a pagan way of behaving. It's all about what you're
accepting fate. Another another super chat has come in, this

(13:46):
time from Reverend Norse. Thank you for your hard work
and all the amazing content. Mister Ousel, will be buying
your starting Heathen recourse after next paycheck, looking forward to
leave theory behind and get into practice. What say you
when practicing alone versus joining a group from a lost Swede, Well,

(14:07):
mister Swede, I understand that for many reasons, a lot
of people have to get started alone, and I think
it's good to start alone. In fact, before you if
you start first, starting off, I think it's very good
to start, just get a start of it. You know,
get the basics, but you can only get you can
only do so much alone. I think communal I said

(14:28):
this in my Giant book review earlier this week, where
I reviewed Theaty and the Soul by Gregory Shaw. There
was a quote from Yambucus there which is saying that
the importance of communal ritual is that it is actually
paramount within paganism because it's this communal engagement with the
gods that unites, that really helps you to unite with

(14:52):
the divine. So and it also changes your abilities to
perceive the divine. So the more you do that sort
of thing, the better. But because many groups, include my own,
can't actually gather that frequently. For Bloot, we only do
about five times a year. That's not enough. That's not enough.

(15:13):
Worshiping five times a year is not enough. So of
course you should also supplement that with home worship as
much as you can. But yeah, I definitely think I
think home I think communal worship is essential. But due
to the nature of modern paganism, you're never going to
get a sufficient amount of worship from communal worship because
it's just not enough proper worship going on communally. So

(15:33):
you need to be doing home worship as well. Did
you marry an Indian woman? So when I was did
you marry an Indian woman? Just I almost don't want
I just don't want to answer. That's like don't believe
things that you read, Like people will say anything about

(15:55):
me on the internet. They say so many things about
me on the Internet that a completely made up. And
also like you know, government funded organizations made up this
thing about that I was part of a Nazi terror organization,
completely made up, completely made up, the survived, the Jive
name was apparently invented to insult black people, completely made up.

(16:17):
Now this thing I'm married an Indian woman, No I didn't.
To make it absolutely clear for the lower IQ people,
no I didn't. There was also a conspiracy theory that
I live in India as a sex tourist. That the
idea that if an Englishman had, for some reason a
fetish for Indian women that he would have to move

(16:38):
to India to access them is just absurd. It shows,
you know, very third world people oblivious to the reality
of life in England. But yes, I don't have a
fetish for Indian women, and I don't live in India,
and I've never been a sex tourist. I'm actually married
and I live in rural England and my wife is Swedish.
But this has been said many times, but I you know,
can't go over the same things over and over. Ah

(17:07):
Bartho says, you and I had a conversation, a nice
conversation about metal music in the Pharaoh Islands. That was
easy forty in two thousand andine it Cardben in two
thousand and nine, because I went to a metal festival
in the Pharaoh Islands in twenty ten, and that video
is on my channel. I interviewed the metal band, the
Pharaohese metal band Tiur, and that's why you can see

(17:31):
You can see that on the channel if you want
to go back through the archives and see me in
twenty ten in the Pharao Islands and I saw a
lot of metal bands down. It was really good fun.
I don't know where I would have spoken to you
about it, but that's cool. Now we'll go to subscribe
stuff because we've exhausted the Patreon comments and they're all

(17:57):
from mostly all from Liquid Jena. I might not go
through all of them because he's got quite a lot
of questions here, I your dison first asked. It was
Leif Erikson Day here in the United States on October ninth,
said to be the first European to land in the
Americas five hundred years before Christopher Columbus. This seems to
be disputed. Where do you come down on this true

(18:18):
or too. It's not disputed at all that he came
before Christopher Columbus. It's certain Leif Erikson did. It was
disputed because in the nineteenth century, for example, like Americans
of Scandinavian origin were proud of Leif Erickson, and they
read the sagas claiming there was this vinland. They presumed

(18:40):
it to be North America and therefore claimed that they
were the first there, and they felt very proud of this.
But a lot of people didn't consider the sagas to
be very reliable evidence in this regard, and didn't you know,
it was never certain. But that was all before like
they found, you know, Lns of Meadow, the Viking site
in Canada, they found evidence other Zonus, like you know,

(19:04):
iron weapons and that region stuff there, and there's a
long you know, there's a long house, a Viking longhouse
in Canada. There's no question of it anymore, no one,
there's absolutely no, it's not it's not disputed by anyone
who is aware of the of the subject at all
that the Vikings were in North America long before Columbus.
What is disputed is whether to what expent there could

(19:28):
be the I mean, they're the first Europeans. Probably it
could have been earlier Europeans, but we wouldn't know about it.
But at the same time that the Vikings were arriving
in North America, two other races were arriving in North
America roughly the same time and were arriving in the
American continent, not in North America. One was arriving in

(19:50):
North America on the western side of Canada, and they're
the Eskimo. So the Eskimo first reached Western Canada sometime
around or Alaska around the same time the Vikings reached
Eastern Canada. So they all the Native Americans were there
thousands of years, like you know, twenty thousand years earlier
or whatever. It doesn't so but besides that them the

(20:11):
first people to get there, all seemed to got there
like those twenty thousand years of no one getting there,
and suddenly three races arrived at the same time, the
Vikings in East Canada, the Eskimo in Western Canada and Alaska,
and then in South America some Easter Islanders managed to
get all the way to South America. So that's pretty
impressive too. That's probably the most impressive journey, because the

(20:34):
Eskimo's very quite impressive dog sledding probably you know, or whatever.
They don't know what they did, but they going through
the snow, walking, trudging along the snow, or going in canoes,
probably chasing seals. The Vikings slightly more impressive. I had
to cross large oceans, ice oceans on their long ships,
but the Polynesians had a larger journey I think, less

(20:55):
cold at least, but they had to go or not.
These Easter Islanders had to cross in their rickety old
rafts all the way to South America's that's pretty amazing.
But what's funny is we can't get an exact date.
We'll never get an exact date for the Eskimo or
the Easter Islanders. So it's roughly the exact same time
as the Viking. So we'll have to just say that

(21:16):
they all arrived simultaneously because there's no way of knowing
which of them got their first. But it's roughly the
same time. But all of them got there long, long
before Columbus anyway, that's for sure. Oh, I'll just get
a couple more super chats in Dennis Fowler, do you
think that language can objectively capture the essence of reality
and the divine? We're going to get into some Hydigerian

(21:38):
philosophy here now. No, it can't. Language can't. But I
like this expression that religions are vocabularies for understanding the
divine or engaging with the divine. So we should understand
always that. That's one of the good things about the
Preenlia school because by understanding different cultures and their different religions,
you kind of get a more new wants to wider

(22:01):
a perspective on what religion is and what the divine is,
rather region not religion, but what the divine is. But
no language is sufficient entirely. It only provides one sort
of aspect of it. Chungus cahn't ten dollars, Thank you
very much, cousin. It wasn't long ago you had an

(22:21):
advert for Scottish titles in which you claim descend from
Clan Montgomery. As do I have you seen that our
patriarch Gomeric descends from the Umlynx. No, I haven't I did. Yeah, yeah,
I do descend from Clime Montgomery. My great grandmother is Montgomery,
so I'm entitled to wear the Montgomery tartan, which is purple.

(22:41):
A bit hard for a white guy to pull off
purple tartan, maybe, but I'll give it a try. Maybe
one day. It was where if you want to see
me looking like a spokesman for Cabrey's Chocolates or something
walking around in purple, Yeah, I know that, but I
wouldn't be surprised because the Montgomery clan are of Norman

(23:03):
origin that their actual crest is a Norman holding up
the head of a savage. Probably just means a pick
or a gale, but yeah, that's a pretty pretty brutal crest.
But yeah, that's what they're all about. But yeah, I
didn't know that. I did do it a debunking video
not song about Norman schmittic DNA where one of our

(23:23):
fellow Montgomery's has tried to claim that the Montgomery clan
is descended from ancient Semitic kings or something, and I
was just showing how that was complete nonsense, absolute nonsense.
But yeah, it would be interesting to know what their
connection to the Inland dynasty would be. I one like me,
but my paternal Happer group from is Roussel, not Montgomery.

(23:46):
I don't have a paternal Montgomery lineage. Do you really
work for the World Health Organization? Asked mousy Fate with
a ten dollar donation. How long have you worked for them?
Thank you? No, I do not, moosey Fate. I worked
for a subsidiary of the World Health Organization in Sweden

(24:08):
called the Uppsalent Monitoring Center, which deals with the safety
of medicines and medical devices, which is a practice known
as pharmac of vigilance. And I worked for them for
two and a half three years. I can't remember. I
stopped in twenty nineteen. Yeah, in twenty nineteen I was

(24:29):
stopped working for them, or was it twenty eighteen. Anyway,
it was years ago. I stopped working for them before
the pandemic started, if that's what you're asking before all that, So, yeah,
I have nothing to do with them at all. I've
seen also the conspiracy theory that I'm funded by the
World Health Organization. That is complete nonsense as well, lots
of conspiracy theories about me on the internet. Almost certain,
if you hear something on the internet about me and

(24:50):
it makes you raise your eyebrowser's probably not true. Probably
not true. Unless it's that I'm definously handsome and very knowledgeable,
but the rest of it is not true. Cherry Appleton
gives me a ten pound donation, thank you very much.
She says she got her maternal DNA back eight c four.
My thirty three percent Scottish change to thirty three percent.

(25:11):
Bask any idea why thanks. It's probably because the new
ancestry dot Com out like a prediction is complete rubbish.
I think the main thing that they're boasting about for
their new calculator is that it's got a lot more
African regions. So if you're black or have black ancestry,
it's probably a bit better now. But as for the

(25:32):
rest of it, it seems to have got worse. I
don't know anyone of partially black ancestry who has an
ancestry dot Com test to tell me how it might
have improved their results. But everyone I know, including I
have my son's tested on that company. My son tested
on that company and it his test as rubbish. Now,
it's just it's taken, it's made all it's made all

(25:53):
my English DNA into German and Dutch DNA because it's
confusing an other people I know said that English DNA
has turned into Irish DNA. There's basically like looking at England,
one of the most densely populated and largest regions of Europe,
one of the most well established ancient ethnic groups, and
it's dividing, you know, like it's classing the Germanic DNA

(26:15):
of England as German or Dutch, even though that Germanic
DNA has been in England long before the nation of
Germany or Holland or Netherlands existed. So it doesn't make
any sense to you know, see hot them as like
England is like a mixture of Germany and Ireland. That's
not what it is. It just isn't. That isn't what

(26:37):
if you miss Like Michael Fassbander, I give it as
an example. He is half Irish and half German. He
speaks with an English accent, probably plots on a PCA
a lot like an Englishman, but he is not the
same thing as an Englishman because in English, the English
are an ethnic group established for a long time. So
it's not just you mixed Celtic and German together you
get English. It's something that happened already anyway. Thank you

(27:06):
for your donation. Another donations come in from bree in
Canada with the seven dollar donation seven Canadian dollars. Do
you think or know if Proto Indo Europeans had cultural
exchange with Siberian or oral populations Proto Indo Europeans not
very much. However, the people the Proto and Europeans formed

(27:28):
from the Proto Indo Europeans formed from several populations of
hunting gatherers around the Volga and the Nipa, and they
included a population of Siberian origin. So the Proto Europeans
had some Siberian ancestry, but they weren't probably I mean

(27:48):
interacting a great deal at that early stage with Siberians. However,
those Proto and e Europeans who moved further north into
Russia then had sustained contacts with Siberians. Most of all
the people who would become the Aryans, the Proto Indouranics
had significant contacts with the Siberians, and for this reason

(28:11):
the Finogric language has early Arian loans, probably interacting with
Sintashtar culture, and of course even later on the later
Uranic peoples, the Scuthians had significant Siberian admixture and their
religious practices, as I said in the Scuthian God's video,

(28:34):
are very recognizably Siberian entire time. Some of they have
recognizable Siberian elements, you know, shamanism basically it's there. Also,
I suppose you could say the Norse have some Siberian
influences from you know, their neighboring Finnic and Sami people
who are Siberian People's really yes, but the proto Indo

(28:55):
Europeans themselves are a bit too fast out to have
any direct influence and interactions with Siberians, despite their Siberian ancestry.
More more coming, Okay, great bullet corn dog with five
U S dollars. Thoughts on Shinto, I feel it's similar
in many ways to mus Deism and Roman religion. I'm

(29:17):
a long time found by the way, keep up the
good work. Yes, I suppose it is. It's Shintoism is
like many indigenous ethnic religions. It has that same general character,
which is, you know, the rituals are done as a
matter of you know, decency. You just they're just part
of the culture and they're what they people do. In Japan,

(29:38):
I think like a lot of the if you look
at the actual statistics. To people w say that Shinto
is tiny, you'd think there was no shintos in Japan,
if you because if you ask them, if you that's
those are just the people who mark Shinto down as religion.
Because when a lot of the people who in Japan
probably consider themselves not religious, and so they would say that,

(29:59):
and others consider themselves Buddhists, and when they wanted to
be and they want to be like spiritual and have
like what we'd consider like you know, spiritual thoughts about
like the nature of things and the universe or what,
then they'll think love alarm Buddhist philosophy. But those Buddhists
and those atheists will participate in Shinto rituals regularly, and

(30:19):
they won't consider that necessarily a religious activity. It's just
part of being Japanese. That's the same as how religion
or pagan religions really work. Like they didn't know there
was such a thing as religion. They didn't even think
that this was any different from being a German or
being a Roman. Theo is just what you do. Those
are just like the parts of your ethnic culture that

(30:40):
that's how you you engage with the gods, came me
in Japan. But yeah, it's very interesting to see how
it survives in this highly technological and you advanced, you know,
developed society. I find it the fascinating. I really want
to go to Japan. I've wanted to go there since
I was well thirteen that since the nineties. Basically, if

(31:08):
ancestry is crap, do you recommend something else? Reverend nasasks
with twenty Swedish growners. If you're British ancestry, I can
definitely say that the best commercial test available is living DNA.
As for others, I don't know. For Swedes, I think
ancestry is pretty damn good actually, because my son's Swedish

(31:29):
ancestry is one hundred percent accurate on ancestry dot com.
And not only that, but it breaks down his ancestry
by regions extremely accurately. He's entirely from northern, the northern
nor bottom his Swedish ancestry from the very northern Sweden,
so he has that's come out perfectly correct. I'd say
with British people should avoid ancestry as a DNA test, probably,

(31:52):
but Swedes probably ancestry is all right. I think twenty
three and me is fine as well. My wife did
twenty three and meters. It got reasonable results. They're all right,
not mind blowing, like living DNA is really really good
for breaking down small regions in the British Isles, Britain

(32:12):
and Ireland. Really great. Makuta Tidax offers five pounds and asks,
I'm a monotheist who is skeptical of a lot of
the Abrahamic account. I feel more drawn to Indo European mythology.
Can you help me reconcile these two? I suppose I

(32:34):
could say monism might be of interest to you. Before
all the monotheist religions today are Abrahamic Semitic religions. I mean,
it's not even necessary to say Semitic, because there are
no Semitic religions left that aren't Abrahamic. So the only religions,
the only Semitic religions left are the Abrahamic religions, because
the Abrahamic religion destroyed all the other Semitic religions, and

(32:57):
the Abrahamic religions are not Their theology comes from earlier
polytheistic monism. Monism occurs in many cultures. It's basically like
underlies the Vedanta of India and the Platonism of Greece.

(33:20):
And it's kind of like i'd saying that all the
many gods are like representations of one, or like they're
like part of one. There's a oneness to the many
is we're putting it. So if you find that theological
perspective interesting, I recommend you pursue it. Okay, Now I

(33:47):
will go to liquid octritions ones for a while, right,

(34:13):
liquid oxygen. What are your opinions on religious freedom as
religious freedom or liberty as concepts? He asks, religious liberty.
They are useful for heavens now, but do you approach
them from a strictly utilitarian perspective insofar as they benefit us,
or do you think it is a proper approach for

(34:36):
society to take in general. That's a really good question,
because I'm very influenced by the traditional school, and therefore
I have influences my life and my attitude to religion
a lot. But here there's two different perspectives on that.
Because traditionalists orthodoxy says you should never you should like.

(35:01):
A true perennialist would never like, would never, would never like.
We'd understand that while some people have like their the
necessity of like insisting on the exclusivity of their doctrines,
and they should never be hated for that if they
haven't been initiated into higher knowledge. At the same time,
it is not acceptable for someone who has to think

(35:21):
of like the exclusivity of doctrine. But at the same time,
it actually does pose a major hazard to any tradition
if there are like, you know, constant synchronicities and corruptions
by mixing up different religions together to make a hybrid
Frankenstein sort of religion of your of your own whims.

(35:44):
You don't want to do that. So anyway, liberty religious
liberty in England comes out of, of course, the horrors
of the English Civil War and kind of basically we're
just saying to each other, like, we don't want that
to happen again. But at the same time, you know,
in hundreds of one hundred or so years later after

(36:07):
the English Civil War, English people were happy to just
lynch Catholics in the streets. So it was never really
meant to be that liberal. It was just about different
types of Protestants mostly being accepting of each other, not
even all types of Christians accepting each other. But now
it's been extended into this idea of all religions. But

(36:28):
that kind of idea is not just an invention of
modern Western liberalism. And I will give you an example
here from India of a Shoka the Great, who was
a Buddhist but who governed the country that was Hindu.
Basically at the time, Hindu is Hindu's is eighty percent
Hindu now, but it was probably ninety five percent Hindu

(36:50):
then or something of five percent. This because Sikhs didn't
exist yet, and in Shock as time, Muslims didn't exist yet,
so it was pretty much just Hindus and Buddhists. But
I think that within Hinduism there was a lot of
diversity then, because the actual idea of Hinduism was sort
of invented under British rule, because we just sort of

(37:11):
used this term to describe all the native religions under
one sort of thing. But there was a great deal
of diversity, That's what I'm saying, a lot of religious
diversity within what we call Hinduism. At the time of
a Shock of the Great in the third century BC.
So he said the following this great king, King a Shaka,

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dear to the gods honors all sects, the ascetics or
those who dwell at home. He honors them with charity
and in other ways. But the King, dear to the Gods,
attributes less importance to this charity and these honors than
to the vows, seeing the reign of virtues, which constitutes
the essential part of them. For all these virtues, there
is a common source modesty of speech. That is to say,

(37:56):
one must not exalt one's creed discrediting all others, nor
must one degrade these others without legitimate reasons. One must,
on the contrary, render to other creeds the honor befitting them.
So this very practical doctrine from a Shoka kind of
echoes stuff that emerged in England after the Civil War,

(38:20):
and I think is probably motivated by similar things, which
is that you'd want to avoid religious conflict within your kingdom.
You want a stable, secure kingdom. And you can't accuse
a shock of the Great of being a modern liberal
or anything of the sort. He is a very traditional
ancient king. But yeah, I think that obviously in our

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world now we're so interconnected and we're so exposed to
different religions, there needs to be some sort of sort
of like attitude of this kind really, because it gets
bloody tiresome hearing people argue about religion on the internet
or seeing if we don't want to If you want
the whole well to look like Hyde Park on a Sunday,
then you wouldn't honor this this very wise words of

(39:06):
a shaker. But if you if you want to see
something a bit more civilized, then I think we should
take a shockers advice. Going back to super chats. Now,
what have we got here? Is animal veneration appropriate in
European paganism? Well, I'm not sure exactly what you mean
by animal veneration, but yes, animal veneration is part of it.

(39:28):
Like you know, you've got org fold or fold and
his cow. I mentioned that in part one of Hyperborean
Odyssey if you don't know about it, but yeah, the
king who venerated his sacred cow for a long time
and was nourished by the milk of it. So yeah, okay,

(39:52):
what have I got his animal veneration? I'm missing some
What is the origin? Okay Johann with twenty Norwegian krona
ask what is the origin of Norse mythology? Norse mythology
comes out of Germanic religion, from you know, religion. Norse

(40:12):
mythology comes out of Proto myth the myths of like
the Proto Norse, which comes from Proto Germanic religion, which
ultimately comes from accorded Where culture probably or maybe from
the Belbeica culture, which comes from the corded Well culture.
So it comes from the corded Ware culture, which is
a Proto and European culture of Eastern Europe, so it
comes ultimately from that. The Avon Jean asks, does French

(40:37):
DNA stand out from British Gaelic DNA British and Gaelic DNA,
Yes it does. I have lots of French ancestors, but
I took two dnatas and they don't say French. Just
northwest Europe. France has some shared snips with Britain, more
so than Ireland. Ireland is more distinct from France and

(40:59):
England because many parts of England share have more shared
allels with France. But you know, there are different regions
of France. The diversity within France actually and the share
the sharing, the parts of France that are likely to share,
you know, large segments with British people. Are in the

(41:24):
north of France, whereas the southern France, particularly southwest, has
significant sharing with the Beasque country of Iberia of Spain. Yeah,
some of these tests just don't distinguish things properly. Like

(41:45):
twenty three and me used to just say Ireland Britain
was one thing, and France and Germany was one thing.
It's pretty arbitrary that they like, they like to not
have each country as its own separate thing. And that's partly,
like I think, because they're worried about how accurate they
can do and they don't want get in trouble or whatever.
I don't know, but different some of them will say,
you know, I mean, you could easily put southwestern France

(42:07):
in the same group as Spain. It's it's it's as
legitimate as putting France in the same group as Germany.
There isn't you know, there are these are distinct regions,
but of course there is. There are like eastern eastern
border of France is not, you know, totally imporous. There's
always been mixing with Germans, of course, and there's always

(42:27):
been mixing with Spaniards in Britain. But the general generally
France is a separate, you know, genetic group. It can
be identified as such, but like commercial tests, maybe not
so easily. Jeff Simpson Scott asks what videos can we
look forward to seeing from you in the next few months,

(42:49):
please we can. Well, I'm going to go to Iceland
with an announcement with North Huger, the YouTube channel, the
American YouTuber is going to Iceland and I'm going to
go there with him and We're going to do some
look at some Saga places and see what else we

(43:09):
can look at. It's going to be a bit of
a thing. I also intend to go on a big
trip to Germany, and I've been planning this out, but
I'm not sure when I can do it because my
schedules a bit full. But I'd like to go to
northern Germany and cross the border into Denmark and just
look at that old country from whence the Anglo Saxon's

(43:30):
emerged the homeland of the English. But yeah, that will
happen at some point. I've planned out a lot of it.
I've planned out a lot of the maps and what
I'm going to do and who I'm going to meet
and things, but I haven't booked those tickets yet. But
I booked the tickets for Iceland, so that's happening. But yes,
I also have a video I filmed last September, so

(43:54):
thirteen months ago in Turkey in Istanbul. I wrote different
Roman sides there, which I'm getting I'm not editing it
myself for the first time ever. I've got a third
party to edit it, as a friend in Russia has
offered to do it for me. But that's not read yet,
but that will be up pretty soon. That's that's nearly done.
So if you like Turkish stuff or it's got some

(44:16):
Christian history in it too, so if you're a Christian,
you might like that. One Manford Russ asks with a
ten dollars us donation. Is there an old English cognate
for low Cheers Tom, longtime fan as far as I'm aware, Well,
there's no tested cognate, and I'm not sure if you

(44:38):
could reconstruct the cognate easily, because I think that the
etymology of Loki is contested. I'm pretty sure like the
old etymological argument that it was based on it was
related to law gill like meaning fire is wrong, and
then that it is more likely a word related to
the English word Locke, which first then that case to

(45:01):
the fact that Loki is bound up and chained very
an important part of him, his character and mythological role
that he shares with his son Fenrir the Wolf, who
is also bound up. So it's like a thing like
a beastly Jutner to be chained up and held this giant,

(45:22):
this monstrous giant. And also I wonder ootgard Loki. That
just means foreign Loki basically, so is that Loki. And
also there's a giant test woman who refuses to to
cry when when Boulder is allowed to be released from hell,

(45:44):
if everything in the world will cry, but one giant
test refuses and some people think that might have been
Loki in the form of Giantess. But like his essential
character is a you're not not an oss, so he is. Yeah,
that would make sense that his name is pertaining to
his punishment of being the chained one basically, but anyone

(46:07):
that might not be true. I'm not sure about that,
to be honest. Rog with a five pound donation says
my English friend has the North African wy Happler group
group HAPLO group seven eight, but has no non European
autosomal DNA. How did his Yapper group likely arrive in Britain?

(46:29):
Almost certainly in a Roman context, I would say, I
would say that was the most plausible thing. At some
point it would have been mediated by Romanized people or
Roman people. That doesn't mean Italians, but you know, something
like that. It's a rare happler group in North But
even I believe Hitler had a happier group. But I

(46:50):
don't know about that either. I think I might have
misremembered that, but it's quite possible I said the H word. Probably.
Now that's a bad idea, not supposed to say anyway.
Another one from Liquid Oxygen on subscribe style. I've heard
that archaeologists dorin and reject the Dorian invasion. I don't

(47:15):
know about the Dorian invasion. Really, it's no genetic evidence
for it as a separate invasion at all from the
initial Indo European related one. But yeah, I don't know. Really.
Do I think the Palaskians might have been Indo Europeans, No,

(47:35):
I don't. They're the pre Greeks. I think. I think
that the initial Indo European migration brought Greek language to Greece.
I think that's most likely anyway, if mankind, Yeah, did

(47:57):
the Spartans practice wife sharing? Well, I don't know. It's
like there's these accounts, and there's some similar accounts of
the Celts in Britain having some lack practice like that
where their brothers would share their wives. But what I
think it's probably happening is there's a kernel of truth here,

(48:18):
but it's being exaggerated to buy like an outgroup to
sort of other eyes the people they're describing, for example,
in the Celts, I imagine it's something like we know,
for example, in Germanic people like if you could inherit
a wife from a relative, like a piece of property,
and the Church tried to outlaw this, for example, like

(48:39):
you couldn't inherit wife like especially they tried to out
like the inheritance of stepmothers. So in some context, in
a Germanic context, you could if your dad died, you
could inherit if his if his wife wasn't your mum,
you could inherit his wife. And the Church was like, no,
that's that's incest. Now genetically speaking, it isn't incest, but

(49:00):
it's a bit weird. But yeah, I don't think the
Church banned it because they thought it was weird. They
had some other thing about it, But anyway, whatever, things
like that. Probably what I imagine is that something like
that occurred in among the Celts and probably among the
the the Spartans, where it says that he says, yeah,

(49:21):
they said they would let some younger men to produce,
have sex with their wives, have stronger, more capable children.
But I don't know that's true. I doubt that's true.
Maybe it's true, but I doubt it. It sounds more
applausible that they might allow they might have had some
inheritance system where like or like what was the Celts

(49:42):
were accused of sharing brothers sharing wives in common, so
that when a woman marries a man, that is also
like she's accessible to his brothers. Because the whole point
of sexual monogamy is to ensure paternity. That's the whole reason,
and that's why that's a lot of that biological justification

(50:07):
for patriarchy. It's a way to ensure paternity by controlling
women and their and their sexual activities. But if a woman,
if a woman is impregnated by your brother, it's kind
of like on a genetic scale, it's kind of like
it's still okay. Maybe that's what the Celts were thinking,

(50:27):
if that's even true, and the Romans just didn't make
it up to make them seem weird, like, for example,
when the Romans talk a lot about like that. You
know the Scithian women the Amazons. Now, yeah, some Skethions
probably did ride on some Skiffen women probably did fight
in some context, but the Amazon's are mythological exaggeration of that.

(50:47):
There were no like Amazonian armies or anything like that.
So something like that is probably happening with the Spartans
as well. Zenophon, Polybius, and Plutarch. I can't remember what
exactly any of those authors said on the subject of
Spartan wife sharing, but yeah, that would be my guess. Morse,

(51:14):
thank you very much for another super chad. Here, we've
got one from Hadas Hades ten euros. I bought your
course Starting heatheny And after I bought your course Starting Heathenry,
by the way, that's available at starting Heathenry dot thinkifik
dot com if you want to get it. And after

(51:36):
making my first blood to Odin, I heard a raven
called twice immediately after thank you for your brilliant course.
It was absolutely worth it. Well, thank you very much
for saying so, Hades, that's a great comment. And yes,
the raven a raven comes immediately after a blood. That's
a sign that Odin has accepted it. Especially it's two ravens,
but one raven croaking loudly. I think is a good

(51:57):
sign too. If you hear some screaming in the background,
it's not my cat, because I don't have a cat,
it's my children. Caine Bradford Office. Five pounds is the
phenomena of Mexican white supremacists explained by their paternal blood
memory acting up. I don't know about that. Sorry again,

(52:21):
I don't think I can I can answer that one.
That's funny. Another donation from JD is the new gold
standard with ten pounds. My hapler groups are R one
A and w How might this have come to England?

(52:46):
The same test my heritage marked me as ninety seven
percent English and three percent Welsh and placed my heritage
entirely to a specific section on the South. There are
R one A hapler groups in Germanic Europe, and so
I think that the insular Celts didn't have any R

(53:06):
on A lineages. So I would say it's almost certainly
a lineage that was brought either by the Anglo Saxons
or perhaps more likely the Vikings, because my understanding of
the distribution of r one A in Germanic Europe is
not balanced, so that the RNA is more common in

(53:28):
Norway than it is in Denmark and Germany. So it
would be more likely to come from a Viking context
than a Anglo Saxon context. But with the subclade you
might have a better chance of narrowing that down and
finding out if it is Norwegian. But I would say
that's quite likely. However, the Vikings in England were predominantly

(53:51):
Danish and they wouldn't have very much RNA anyway. But
even most Vikings Scandinavias, I think, like even Danish people
have a significant amount of RNA, so it could come
from It's from a Germanic context, for sure. As for W,
I don't know. I don't track the movements of maternal
happler groups. I really don't know that much about them,

(54:12):
about the different maternal happler group of things like that,
so I can't help you with that. Okay, Well, we're

(54:34):
nearly at the end of the stream. I'm afraid, but yeah,
I've got another another donation from a super chat from
random FX with twenty pounds. Any thoughts on Orkney Shetland
Neolithic remains monuments being a remnant of Dogland people. Absolutely not,
absolutely not, because the dog Land went underwater at the

(55:00):
end of the Mesolithic and the people who built the
megaliths came after Dogland had sunk so, and they have
a Anatolian genetic signature which is very distinct from the
hunter gatherers. The people who came and built the megaliths
had DNA from the hunter gatherers of Western Europe, including

(55:24):
probably those that lived in Dogland as well, so they
may have had a cultural memory of Dogland, but the
bulk of their ancestry came from Anatolia and didn't enter
the British Isles until after Dogland had sunk, so no.

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King Bradford, with another five pound donation, asks how common
is I one in England? I think I one is
about fifteen percent of the population of white English people men, sorry,
fifteen percent of white English meant roughly so yeah, not
hugely common, but not too rare either, and it's entered

(56:10):
England mostly from Anglo Saxon and Norse contexts, but I
believe there is evidence of some I one being here before.
I can't remember someone mentioned maybe there was an eye
one sample from before the Anglo Saxon invasion in Britain,
but it certainly was vanishingly rare before Germanic people. I

(56:31):
one is a very good marker for spread of Germanic
people because almost, I mean, all the eye one that
exists today ultimately comes from Bronze Age Scandinavia because it
was it went for a massive bottleneck. So we know
whenever we see EY one in the world today that
if you go back far enough, you're going to get
to Scandinavia. So yeah, most of the I one in

(56:53):
England is Anglo Saxon and Norse mediated. Right then, that
has been a very successful stream with lots of questions
I love to see. I hope that you've found my
answers satisfactory. If you want some more survivor drive and
you haven't found this stream and quite satisfied you, then

(57:13):
you can check out the lots of stuff I'd put up.
This week, I put up and recently I put up
a give book review of Theagy and the Soul if
you want to hear some Platonist philosophy, and that's on
this channel on the drive Talk channel, or if you
want something a bit more flashy and editing, editing, edited documentary,
you should see the last part of Hyperborean Odyssey, three

(57:36):
part series when I was living on a cruise ship
traveling all around North Sea from Norway and all the
Scottish islands, Hembrides, Orkney. It's amazing. The final part of
it was uploaded recently and that includes the Neolithic and
Viking history of Orkney and some stuff in the Hebrides,
looking at vikings and the Hebrides and the Gales invading
the Hebrides, and I saw some dolphins jumping and some

(57:57):
seals and I got all that, So definitely go and
have a look at that please, and if you otherwise,
look at the whole Hyperborean Odyssey series if you haven't
seen all of it, because I think they're all pretty
damn good. And also I interviewed raw Egg nationalists recently
on this channel as well, so you should check out that.
If you want to hear some esoteric health tips and
learn about the changing dants of our ancestors and what's

(58:18):
healthy for you and what isn't I'll see you all
next time. Our one more super chats come in. I'll
do this one. If you send any other after this,
I won't read it, so please stop sending them now.
But jog swath Off with a ten dollars donations asks
if hypothetically someone was going to sacrifice a goat to Odin,
do you think it would be insulting if it was castrated?

(58:41):
Hmmm hmmmmm hmm. I'm not sure it would be insulting.
It might be acceptable. I one of the lesser known
epithets of Odin might indicate that it was a appropriate,

(59:01):
but anyway, I don't think it would be to I've
never heard anything say you can't sacrifice a gelded animal,
so it should be fine. Generally, the hanged animals at
Uppsala was supposed to be male, so that's one thing.
But yeah, I think it would be all right. I
think it would be all right anyway. Good night all

(59:23):
you lovely people. Thank you for listening to jive Talk.
This has been Tom Rawsell on the dive Talk channel.